my guildies are flocking me for once 😳
#protection
sweet summit
its not terrible in practice, obv fights like sludge its kinda poopy
have another reclear on wednesday where im hoping to minmax banner
plush tendon
how bout M+?
sweet summit
ive planned who to buff and when to use it on every fight lmao 
plush tendon
I like AA, but for aesthetics, I prefer Necro sooo
sweet summit
idk ive done one key this week
sweet summit
there is not a single piece of gear i can get in m+ vault that is an upgrade
so why
sweet summit
thats fair
plush tendon
so how did it feel in the one key i guess XD
sweet summit
its kinda aids as you dont really stack cooldowns in m+ except for like bosses
so i just buffed whoever had cooldowns when it was up
plush tendon
what key did you do and how was your overall?
sweet summit
plaguefall
and i dont know
dont think it was a lot lower than i usually had
but i also came from venthyr
so
plush tendon
fair
Im sort of planning out for next tier our M+ comp with the bois
so we all thinking of class and Cov combos that make sense
sweet summit
fire ele outlaw
plush tendon
well..... we dont really have a mage XD
we sort of run with what we got and what people like
sweet summit
bully someone into rerolling
plush tendon
so for us, and me, we push as high as we can with what we enjoy
sweet summit
aye
plush tendon
Our current comp: Prot War, Ass Rogue, WW, Fill (we have a couple of friends who play on and off) and then Hpal/Resto druid
sweet summit
so u have everything except for necro huh
sweet summit
i personally would not swap to necro for m+
id stay night fae
as u already have a ww thats kyrian
sweet summit
and rogue is vethyr i guess?
plush tendon
yep 🙂
plush tendon
I do like Necro.... so im always curious to see how other people are doing with it
but AA is just so.... stonks
sweet summit
i found merileth or w/e to be super strong as a defensive soulbind tho
ooz shield is poggers
and ya know, fleshcraft
weak dune
balmy coral
I have really liked Kyrian, Spear is nice dps, good for kiting/burst and even good for Fury.
late ermine
Question so I'm going to be switching to warrior in 9.1 currently night fae. I will be prot m+ and fury in raids. I am running into the problem where they both use the same soulbind. Anyone have any specific ideas?
sweet summit
yeah both AA and Spear is epic for aoe dps regardless of spec
plush tendon
Question so I'm going to be switching to warrior in 9.1 currently night fae. I w...
Korayn for Prot in M+, Niya for Fury in raids
Fury and Prot both share the same setup for M+ in Korayn as well
late ermine
Ok thank you
sweet summit
for korayn as fury id just take the L and play unnerving focus xd
subtle perch
hmm just switched back to alliance but can't decide on a race :(
sweet summit
dorf
subtle perch
dorf got good mogs?
subtle perch
true, especially since i'm playing nf not kyrian
novel raptor
How is prot looking so far on the PTR ? Do you think it looks good for MM+ tanking ?
coral kayak
Why sometimes when i charge or intervene my camera change direction?
sweet summit
no chances for prot except for the new legendaries
novel raptor
What about the new soulbinds ?
sweet summit
i havent looked too much into them acutally
but mikanikos looks a lot more attractive now if youre kyrian
sweet summit
Why sometimes when i charge or intervene my camera change direction?
its because you face the way you intervene and it just does that for some reason
if you intervene someone behind/to your side
worthy dagger
coral kayak
its because you face the way you intervene and it just does that for some reason...
Is it also applied to charge? I face the way the target i charged to facing?
sweet summit
oh i meant last row
more dam+spear cdr
he still has the issue of auto phial or phial knockback tho
so idk if its worth
can you charge mobs behind you?
coral kayak
can you charge mobs behind you?
Nope, but when i charge, my character change the direction its facing to backwards sometimes
sweet summit
thats... weird
i dont think that has happened to me
at least not often enough for me to take notice
coral kayak
Happened a lot of times, so annoying feelsbadman
sweet summit
guess its not hard to deal with tho, just turn around fast
but i can see it being annoying
novel raptor
Do you have auto camera readjust ?
sacred timber
Im tanking a +12 for the first time with my guildies to get them a 223. Any tips before I fail over and over again?
sweet summit
what dungeon u doing
sweet summit
casts hurt
novel raptor
Dont over pull if dps is low, specially with bolstering + necro, keeping it safe is often better
grand drum
Gargons hurt
sweet summit
might have to kite the dogs as you get high bleed stacks
sacred timber
Our dps should be ok, but Im definitely not doing huge pulls
sweet summit
can be nice to lust a big pull at the start and lust there
then have 60% pride for 1st boss
and 80% pride+lust on 2nd
and lust again on last
sacred timber
will try
sweet summit
~78% before invising/shrouding to 2nd boss and pulling one of those stone guys to proc pride
dont have a lot of prot specific tips other than basic stuff like maintain SB as long as youre taking blockable damage and shit
spell reflect bolts too
honest plinth
This is a basic route. With your grp you can practice some amazing ones. Like 94% before 2nd boss. And kill Just big add before Last. Buuuuut you need some exp with these routes ofc.
sacred timber
It is gonna have little room for butt pulling if you only do 60 for first boss
sweet summit
yeah no need for some advanced shit in a 12 😅
honest plinth
Also im pretty sure you will not have hero for Last boss if you lust 2nd one
honest plinth
I mean ye you better lust 2nd boss still hes most dangerous there for sure
Just will kill Last without hero
sweet summit
yeah 2nd boss can get out of hand quickly with the adds
honest plinth
The main problem of prideful affix for not exp people are asspulls haha
sweet summit
ahaha yeah for sure
honest plinth
You Just ruin your ruote in few seconds and almost cant addapt like it was in s4 bfa for example
sacred timber
Where is the passive that says more rage = more damage mitigation?
sweet summit
huh?
sacred timber
it talks about that in the icy veins
sweet summit
more rage=more rage available for ignore pain
sweet summit
thats what it means
honest plinth
You mean more rage = more damage go brrrrrrrr
sweet summit
truuuue
grave tendon
if I have full haste versa pvp gear will I be unkillable in a 15 key? got like 31% versa lol
To tank it
sweet summit
you can probably still die
gloomy cradle
Better do the math
warped schooner
How is Necro lord as a covenant choice?
distant gorge
floral pewter
if I have full haste versa pvp gear will I be unkillable in a 15 key? got like 3...
if you're ilvl 210+ and running Reprisal, you'll be pretty hard to kill in a 15
but with Necrotic/Bolstering, plenty of packs can still do it
grave tendon
Don’t have that lego 😦 but I’m 227 ilvl
modern brook
How is Necro lord as a covenant choice?
light sorrel
Just to make sure I understand, you don't ever want to push Whirlwind? Just press Revenge instead?
floral pewter
correct
light sorrel
Thanks ❤️
I will continue to use all of my rage on execute and pray I don't die when I never press shield block lmao
sweet summit
Perfect
light sorrel
🙂
wet osprey
u guys use any WA's for the free revenge proc?
light sorrel
I use the AfenarUI WA and it lights up when the Revenge proc procs
wet osprey
is there any way to up the dmg prevented on the Ignore pain?
or anyone know what its based off?
light sorrel
ignoring 50% of damage taken, up to [(0 + Attack power * 3.5) * (1 + Versatility)] total damage prevented.
You can also up it with the Never Surrender talent, but I believe it's considered fairly bad.
floral pewter
is there any way to up the dmg prevented on the Ignore pain?
cast it twice, it stacks
or just get better gear, since it scales with AP and vers
carmine prawn
I read that devastator is the best rage generator but would devastate itself be better due to 10% more procs for shield slam, if i pick punish? Considering in both aoe and ST situation
urban portal
well kind of, because theres an opportunity cost to pressing devestate
carmine prawn
Want to understand how is taking devastator (dropping devastate to cast as filler) worth over taking Punish
jagged pier
its not better because you dont have the gcds really to press devastate that much so u get less proc with devastate than devastator, and the rage gen should give you more damage reduction than punish
in both situations aoe and ST
and you do more damage
urban portal
that too
you spend your gcds on shield block/tclap/revenge
theres really no room to fill a devestate
jagged pier
like even if you take punish your melees will still be far higher than your devastate casts, so from napkin maths as you get more melees yes its 10% less chance but it should give more SS procs
as more chance too sort of thing
chilly brook
is there any way to up the dmg prevented on the Ignore pain?
IP is supplementary, you shouldn't really be worried about that
jagged pier
is there any way to up the dmg prevented on the Ignore pain?
its based off attack power, but its not our main mitigation its used to smooth damage on top of SB and help with magic damage
urban portal
spell refelct is what we use for magic right
jagged pier
well that doesnt last that long and u dont always have it up
🤷
plus if its undeflectable or unreflectable
stack IP on top of the DR from SR is pretty good
lofty widget
your effective uptime should be 75-80 %, which you can only see in logs
jagged pier
it can even be higher than that
total uptime is a very bad metric to look at
as it looks at time where u might be kiting etc
so you should only really care about how many melees you blocked with it i.e effective uptime
as that tracks when you really need block up
carmine prawn
Thanks for the info, now i get the rationale behind taking devastator
jade tartan
You guys using AM or HR for M+?
jagged pier
AM
theres up and down to both talents you loose a lot taking HR and the block gain you dont really need till you start getting into really high keys
but play what you like
you do loose snap aggro as you should run ITF with HR so u loose rav which is sad
u can compromise and run rav and HR
but that makes a weird prio
as with HR u want to prio SS over everything
but with rav you want to prio revenge
jade tartan
Yea, think I'll run AM
Isn't this combo the best for snap aggro on opener: Charge (with reprisal) > Revenge! proc, boosted by First Strike and Wild Hunt Tactics > Thunderclap boosted by Show of Force?
jagged pier
im not NF 🤷 but can throw rav before charging and not need to care at all
jade tartan
Also, does Best Served Cold gets procced on the Revenge proc from Reprisal? As in, does that proc from Reprisal benefit from those 50% or still 20% ?
jagged pier
and SoF does very little
jagged pier
Also, does Best Served Cold gets procced on the Revenge proc from Reprisal? As i...
it gives the 50%
jade tartan
Nice!
jagged pier
as reprisal gives you the proc
jade tartan
Aye, it makes sense
jade tartan
and SoF does very little
Should it be skipped? Should we run 3 endurance?
strong forum
I run double potency
Cuz it's more dmg than 0
And the 3rd endurance is also shit
So it's a lose-lose situation
jagged pier
Should it be skipped? Should we run 3 endurance?
I run 2 potency so i do run SoF in m+ anyway as after the 2 main endurance you dont need anymore you can run a finesse to fit it in but i was just saying SoF doesnt make much of a difference tbh
brittle owl
that's like saying half an inch on your peen is negligible
jagged pier
well SoF is more like 2cms
its a little bit
but lets be honest not much of a difference
but 2cms is 2cms
ill take it
jade tartan
Fair enough haha 😄
brittle owl
atta boy
fringe marten
What's the comment/punctuation that makes a macro line not post to say?
sterile stump
What's the comment/punctuation that makes a macro line not post to say?
You may have a space after the first /?
fringe marten
no..I WANT it to not post to say.
I want to macro in a few things to demo shout, like Sapphire of Brilliance..then comment them out or in; as I'm going to use them.
starting to bloat up with a few different demo shout macros and charge/intercept macros that I have to swap out between SLG's or just random content..sick of it.
sterile stump
Yes so check if you have / cast as opposed to /cast that was what caused it to go to say for me,
fringe marten
right..but if you just add a space will it then not simply post / cast Fireblood to say?
or if I put a . in front of / it'll post ./cast Fireblood to say
sick sentinel
why was kiting kinda dead in bfa but very mcuh alive again in shadowlands
fringe marten
can't you add a semicolon or something so it comments the text OUT and doesn't paste it to chat?
sick sentinel
kiting as a tank in m+
sterile stump
Yes if you have / cast it will say cast.....
fringe marten
Because we had infiniblock and bonkers damage and could stand and bang with anything.
..and corruptions that made us to a billion dps.
now we tickle mobs and mobs hit like trucks in the teens in M+ so..sad times.
jagged pier
why was kiting kinda dead in bfa but very mcuh alive again in shadowlands
its not alive in shadowlands u dont need to kite unless you are doing the higherst keys/ like a few mobs and pcks in certain dungeons
sick sentinel
but did they remove mob abilities that hit closest target if the tank is too far away
like atal dazar oneshotting melees if kiting
jagged pier
no there are still those mechanics
fringe marten
You aren't full face tanking start to finish on half the pulls you need to make that allow you to time a 16/17+ fortified Halls of Atonement..etc.
jagged pier
the fact is in bfa mobs hit for less and the dungeon were more phyiscal damage so tank generally can stay in and not need to move
fringe marten
Some packs you can tank into the ground even on a solid key..but none of them that 'matter'
jagged pier
where as now there is a lot more magic damage which no tank can take well
fringe marten
That also..there's SO many more magic dots, casts, more to kick..worry about.
sick sentinel
even physical seems to hurt more
jagged pier
well yes as i said mobs hit for less in bfa
we also had corruption
which made even bad tanks okay
marble cipher
I want to macro in a few things to demo shout, like Sapphire of Brilliance..then...
--
That's the lua 'comment'
fringe marten
Speaking of which..? What exactly is the fkn combo at the end of the gauntlet in SD...the guys with the gargoyle. They summon a sword? What does it do..? do they debuff you?
marble cipher
Add that before the line you don't want, or want to toggle
jagged pier
it melees with magic damage @fringe marten
fringe marten
Shini..so just put double dash in front of a line to comment it out?
jagged pier
but if u stun the cast
fringe marten
AH that's why jakey.
jagged pier
they dont cast it again for like a minute
marble cipher
Shini..so just put double dash in front of a line to comment it out?
Yep
I do that for my potions, since I don't wanna pop them in Torghast for instance
fringe marten
Thank you shini; now i can build my demo shout with some prepots and sapphire/racial etc..then just comment in/out based on content I'm dong.
marble cipher
--/use Potion of blabla
Will not use the potion 😉
fringe marten
I tried using OPie for my pots; it's just too slow..it's ok for world markers in raid or something like that. But bleh.
Even with the 'use on release' on OPie it's too slow
marble cipher
OPie is great, but not for stuff like that no
fringe marten
Right; and on any day when I get sapphire of brlliance..I'm just leaving it on in the macro..'cause dat shiz free.
and I'm not worried about it locking me out of an invis pot; since any dungeon I'd need that in I'm bringing a yellowboi.
The quality of the crown of opulence doesn't effect the gem quality right? (the buffs)
Didn't get the mythic during current content, and I'm gonna' start running dazaralor for the mythic shoulders for the 9.1 split mog.
blazing gale
by quality of crown you mean nm/hc/mythic?
sand condor
is there a way to create a macro that uses a healthstone if its avaliable instead of a healthpot on the same button
im running out of keybinds
strong forum
No, since they're both off gcd
sand condor
damnit
dense sundial
You could use a cast sequence macro?
fringe marten
Vic, my healthpot key is... healthpot, shift: kyrian phial, Control: Healthstone.
I would never want that process automated in any way. I always want the choice of what I'm using..so the shift/ctrl mods I feel are the best middle ground.
(and that key is ..tilting my mouse wheel left on razer naga; tilt right is heroic throw)
I run out of keybinds and ..finger dexterity as well.. Shift/Ctrl mods are your best friend for carving down button bloat.
sand condor
Vic, my healthpot key is... healthpot, shift: kyrian phial, Control: Healthsto...
.> im nf
but that's actually mega smart
fringe marten
ok..then eliminate the shift 😛
fringe marten
That's always the problem..usually creeps up with new expacs..
sand condor
yeah i;ve been looking to put heroic throw somewhere easily accessable
as im tanking SLG atm
fringe marten
you have to kind of rearrange some stuff and teach your fingers some 'slightly' new movements.
But once you compact all your core stuff down into buttons that won't change..then just add new stuff to shift or control mods
it gets a lot easier.
fringe marten
Yeah we're doing mSLG as well
fringe marten
I think we'll get it this week; reliably getting to final hero phase.
fringe marten
SLG and a couple other things are also why I was asking about macro commands earlier to comment OUT pieces of a macro.
I swap between 2 demo shout macros and 2 charge/intervene macros for SLG (the charge one being the big one)
sand condor
are you running reprisal?
fringe marten
because I really don't need? want? intervene on Target of target..anywhere else..ever...I just want to CHARGE to that target.
but on SLG, I want to intervene the ToT...but now I'll just write more lines into the macro; and comment out what I don't want with --
and yes I am.
fringe marten
eh..? you could..but atm since it's prog I've been running bolster..
but? I really don't need it
sharp carbon
guys, im 196 ilvl, whats the M+ keys i should push ?
sharp carbon
last night i broke my +10 plaguefall but i feel that wasnt my fault
fringe marten
was just doing it out of comfort..but there's one little overlap as we push grashaal over toward that final phase where I have grashaal, and a demolisher for one more stone fist application before cotank grabs grashaal to split off and hold the new commandos 'out'
and if I hold a shield block for that fist..it can get ugly
so having bolster there is just ez mode
and earlier in fight when we swap out and i'm holding ..? kaal off to the side while they're dealing with commandos and dunking..that it can get ugly 'cause I guess healers are running around/whatever? I dunno... but bolster there is just a clean patchup.
I just use ITTF and bolster.
jagged pier
and if I hold a shield block for that fist..it can get ugly
u cant block stone fist
fringe marten
block mitigates it's damage substantially
the 'attack' he performs with it.
like..it's not even a question. I've had block NOT up on a stonefist and it's obliterated me.. on just the second strike. Having block up it's never even remotely scary.
Now it could be? stonefist+an auto instant after?
jagged pier
i dont think it does tbh because then it would block the attack
and just looking at my logs of the kill
i got hit harder by it than the dh becuase there not much we can do against it expect SW
fringe marten
I've only ever died to grashaal twice..both times were not having block up when he struck me with stonefist for the second time.
Every time I've had block up for it..it's not a scary attack at all.
and the difference in damage was monumental
But again; it could have just been really closely timed stonefist+auto block wasn't up so it appeared to be a really strong single hit?
austere stirrup
are you sure you dont have any other procs on top of block?
signal plover
I think it's clipping of autos or something. I'm gonna double check logs from our kill again.
But pretty sure stone fist doesn't get blocked.
jagged pier
yer theres like 100 more factors that can contribute to u dying on the second fist tbh, but it makes no sense that block would reduce damage and not block thats not how it works
like if its not blockable blocking isnt gunna reduce any damage
fringe marten
Nope; the 2 deaths we had in the ..? couple hundred and a half attempts.. (against grashaal specifically) was..stonefist was being cast..I had no block up; biff~ I'm a flying corpse. But as I said..could have been Stonefist+instant auto..but in my in game death recap it was a huge stonefist hit that killed me each time.
So after that I was like "ok bruh...I'll NEVER not have block up for that"
signal plover
Theres a few boss abilities that fuck around with boss autos and make you take a huge spike around when it happens. Overwhelm on Hungering does the same thing
But overwhelm is blockable
austere stirrup
i can guarantee you that you cant block stonefist at least
jagged pier
like if u take an unmitigated hit before stone fist goes through
fringe marten
The 'ability' stonefist..no. But like a lot of spell attacks, where it's a combination of physical and another elemental type..you might block the physical portion of it, reducing the 'attacks' potency.
signal plover
For the record I will say that stone fist not being blockable is the most counterintuitive dumb shit I've seen in awhile.
signal plover
Yeh
fringe marten
We do but I'd have to get maky to post and then go pick through them. I just looked at death recap and saw a nasty stonefist hit and just figured I would make 100% sure to never not block it.
jagged pier
death recap tells you nothing
fringe marten
And ultimately; if both deaths were...'block wasn't up for stonefist..stonefist was cast..and the moment it connected I exploded from like 3/4 hp to 0" I don't care if it is or isn't blockable..Block has to be up when that's occuring. Because after that..I've never died to grashaal again..in another 100+ attempts.
a lot of those getting through those phases into the final hero phase.
ionic fern
fringe marten
so; might be anectodal..even incorrect that it's blockable..but I don't care; those were the only deaths to him and I had to fix it regardless.
ionic fern
Maybe something like that happened to you.
fringe marten
Which is ...stonefist and instant auto after right?
that's what I was suggesting; it could be that..and if it is that..then? I gotta' have block up regardless..that was my point.
austere stirrup
other way around
jagged pier
melee into stone fist
fringe marten
Oh..ok ? well either way
jagged pier
so if u dont have sb up before the fist u will die to the fist
signal plover
There's nothing wrong with having block up around the stone fist hit since you're still taking melee hits, but it's incorrect to say that stone fist is blockable.
jagged pier
^^
SB isnt saving you from stone fist its saving you from the melees around it
it has no reduction on stone fist itself
fringe marten
It wouldn't be; you are sure stonefist isn't mitigated by block..and I never said I had any evidence you were wrong. If you've checked logs and verified stonefist was never mitigated by your block ability..then it wasn't. Either way..I'm never not having block up for it; they were my only deaths to him.
ionic fern
Not everything physical is blockable.
fringe marten
right; not my point
signal plover
Like I said before, it's pretty stupid that it is not blockable
signal plover
But yeah iirc it's physical
fringe marten
it strikes for physical damage? so simply take the number it hits for..do whatever stacking % math it's supposed to apply..reduce it by your armor; and if you have no other cd's or shields up to absorb it...it should absolutely hit you for that number.
But his level is above yours
signal plover
Appears to be doing that
fringe marten
so the armor won't be exactly correct.
You can target him before the pull and your armor tooltip adjusts correctly right?
So if it's not blockable, and you have no personal or external cd's or IP/etc up..should be able to get a pretty exact calculation for what it will hit you for - versatility.
signal plover
I mean you're kind of over thinking this imo
fringe marten
And even with tiny variances in damage from versatility or a little bit of IP left taking a bit of damage..it won't be the 39%+ from block you'll have.
Is it overthinking as much as absolutely having to be right about it not being blockable? I don't care if it's blockable or not..not having block up for it has resulted in 2 deaths..that lead to wipes; unacceptable..period.
austere stirrup
yes, because you got hit by melee aswell
not the stonefist
thats what we are saying
signal plover
Because you probably took an unblocked melee within a second
austere stirrup
we are not questioning your death
fringe marten
I don't have to be right about why the numbers work; I just have to win...I have to not get called out in discord for being the fuckup that fails the raid...that is all that matters.
austere stirrup
keep shield block up, it is the core of prot anyway
but it wont save you from stonefist
jagged pier
Because you probably took an unblocked melee within a second
☝️
signal plover
I don't see any reason why I wouldn't have SB up for stone fist if I had it available
austere stirrup
^
fringe marten
Which is the exact thing I thought it would be..if it's not blockable; so I agreed if it's not..that would have to be the case..and block would have to be up anyway.
signal plover
But at the same time, if SB is on CD, you can still get valuable mitigation through IP and DS (this is what I did over the course of prog)
jagged pier
just link your log so we can see whats going on instead of giving up anecdotal evidence and arguing your point? 🤷
signal plover
Fair lol
fringe marten
Right..if SB is on cooldown..which it was; I died..and I went "nope..never again..time to have an on demand button to guarantee survival"
hence..bolster.
The death was from block not being up; might not have BEEN from stonefist directly..but it's why death occured..it's why "Yiiiikes" in discord.. must be fixed; IMMEDIATELY.
signal plover
Actually this brings up a point. My cotank and I started swapping Hungering during his overwhelm cast to prevent exactly this kind of melee+boss ability spike. We also do the same on a couple Grashaal swaps and it makes the damage intake way smoother.
signal plover
Exactly
fathom spindle
So from one thing to another.
Do you guys priorotize Haste or Vers on pieces that can’t have both?
I’m probably not PvP:ing in awhile, since i need to catch up as Prot, and later arms.
But take neck/shields for instance, would you farm the haste neck from Halls, or the Vers from Spires?
Same goes for shield
fringe marten
Makes sense too; weather it's a blockable ability or not..regardless of the boss; anything that has a castbar associated with it means you're getting hit with that thing plus a melee instantly after, possibly before too.
signal plover
Just Ilvl m8
jagged pier
rings and neck do what u like
signal plover
Ring and neck are jewelry for fancy pants
fathom spindle
Well i got the Halls neck, was unsure wheter to upgrade or naah
fringe marten
And yeah same paw..that was just from realizing I could taunt grashaal the moment he started the cast on my bear; was doing it really just to save him the need to skullbash back to grashaal to prevent movement.
signal plover
Yeah double dip positive
fringe marten
Been like that forever though..boss casts a grey castbar 'tankbuster' you block it..it always feels like it hits hard even though it's not that bad? 'cause it's the ability and a melee that you don't even see an animation for like .1 sec after.
It's pretty stunning that stonefist isn't mitigated at all by block though; as he said earlier..it's super counterintuitive.
jagged pier
very counterintuitive but if u could it would then be busted like being able to tank starvos on council
fringe marten
What would you have to do to block the dash..spin instantly as he casts?
jagged pier
thats the one been like 2 months since ive been there
fringe marten
yeah..progression = no reclears..no loot...get fucked.
jagged pier
but being able to just tank it in the final phase kinda busted
the last piece of loot i need is a 226 phial and 226 HoA neck
and then the 233 stuff obvs
fringe marten
He's not that scary...the final phase of that encounter is "the gargoyle show..starring..THE MOTHERFUCKING GARGOYLE"
..been running plaguefall for a new phial..random rogue got one last night. of course he needed it.
we can sustain a lot of stacks from nik's stab..same way we used to be able to sustain a lot of stacks from ? last raid boss in legion...the scythe stacks.
When our fucking "super..amazing..relic..ancient hyper powerful shield" ability, actually mattered.
and it was some dogshit the rest of the expac.
jagged pier
NELs breath was awesome
fringe marten
NO! that's the worst part
it did NOT look cool
it was like..a tiny shitty dragon head and a little crappy plume of fire.
fathom spindle
JERRY JERRY JERRY!
fringe marten
(lol)
and you had to channel that garbage...I would have been ok with the channel if the damage was boss; if it..at least looked really cool? /sigh
fathom spindle
Tbh, Monks ability was just another keg smash, and Tyr's eye was a blinding light
fringe marten
Come on..the first time you got it and cast it..did you really go "OH that was awesome!" or did you say "why did they use the same dragon roar head animation..why was the fire so small?"
sick sentinel
Considering we don't have many spell effects to begin with it was cool
fringe marten
It wasn't ..awful..but it wasn't "this super powerful lore macguffin..it's SO STRONK SHIELD..now you can block the GODS!" 'pffftttt...fire..channeling.."
However; literally everything was forgiven because...we ORBITAL DROPPED down to azeroth to do daily quests.. FUCK. YES.
sick sentinel
Revenge needs something imo. Something like the spell animation the gargoyles in SD do with their cleave/bleed attack would be neat
sick sentinel
However; literally everything was forgiven because...we ORBITAL DROPPED down to ...
😆
fringe marten
EVERY warrior who played in legion..day 1..FIRST drop from skyhold "LET'S FUCKING GO!!"
fathom spindle
Space Marines ATTACK
fringe marten
No lie, legit..the most warrior thing, warriors have ever had added to the game..and it wasn't an attack, an item..nothin'. It was coming outta' the base.
fathom spindle
I think the old retalliation was the most Warrior thing tbh.
When you returned each attack, felt like a brawler etc
fringe marten
Eh..? but I don't remember that having any special animation/etc.
fathom spindle
Oh, yeah you're right on that part :/
fringe marten
That was my issue with neltharions fury cast; If you're gonna' make me stand there and channel it better be some angry badass shit. What sucks is that it was..allllmost there. We had the cool holding the shield up pose..it was 100% crit blocks..and then "pfffft..." like..Larping a fire spray.
fathom spindle
Superhero landings are rough on one knees though =/(
fringe marten
If any part of it would have been a bit better like..no channel with instant flame blast..and it just puts up a crit block effect. Or..the flameblast 'looked' bigger (could be same aoe) and did enough damage that it was a dps gain.
You're supposed to really WANNA hit that relic weapon effect any time it's up..and we only did on 1 raid encounter. =\
Spear of bastion? It's getting tossed ON CD... 1 mob? fuck you..spear. 10? spear..don't care..get speared~ (of course I'll hold it if a pack is basically finished and we're about to pull another..)
But the ability is very powerful..you can't wait to pop off with it. That's how our relic shield ability should have fealt.
As much as I agree with and dislike borrowed power; knowing it will go away. The design blizzard put behind them was really good; the design paradigm of the destiny "super" ...every time it's up you wanna bust it off IMMEDIATELY because it's your best thing.
signal plover
Legit if they just made it channel while being able to move I would have been ok with it.
More dmg woulda been dope tho
fringe marten
Yeah..well that's? a compromise for the 'instant' instead of channel.
That's what I was hoping they'd patch it to; where the flameblast was an instant hit with a DoT component..then you could 'move' while the block was being channeled.
I figured that would have been a solid compromise.
But..alas..they didn't; so we basically barely ever used it.
From a design perspective the covenant abilities are; at least for prot warrior..much better than the 'ability' neltharions fury.
But the covenant..? sanctums..and the soulbinds? ...ehhh.. Relic weapon is superior.
Give me skyhold and my orbital drop back...take your pelagos back.
fringe marten
You should be able to use all the soulbinds at once, once you have them all unlocked..the tree should be larger to encompass all their abilities; and yes..they'd have to be toned down a little in some cases if you could access all the trees at once. ..but then have a similar amount of counduits to use; with maybe the ability to have 1 or 2 more nodes you could link to (the passive soul bind ones) So you could have actual skill tree loadouts for various content; other than just "hey can you drop a book? wanna swap 1 tree real quick.."
Bastion LOOKS cool yes; I mean from us interacting with it as a layer of 'function' on top of our class..which means; the soulbind crypt.
And dude being able to see and talk to horde warriors was pretty cool..
I know you can see horde in bastion; but can you communicate with them?
fierce field
I can see and communicate with horde in bastion 😉
fringe marten
ok then..? there's so few on our god forsaken server I dunno..I never tried to speak to them. Mostly because they're not warriors..and I don't see non warriors as humans.
fierce field
oh, well i'm horde... not sure if I can talk to ally in bastion 🙂
fringe marten
Long as you warrior..it's all good brother.
fierce field
i might have some bad news for you on that part as well...
fringe marten
...
fierce field
though taking a break from the brew I've been playing since mid legion, and focusing on my warrior 😄
halcyon coyote
hey guys, i've leveled a warrior to 60 this week. I've played the class extensively through 8.3 and really enjoyed it. I hope Upper Reaches is available next week to get Reprisal. Last night I did a DoS +7 at 150 ilvl and it was a struggle, but mostly due to the lack of Shield Block uptime.
I have a question though: how do you play without Reprisal? I feel like I have so many windows without SB that I get mega owned... Im surely not playing correctly
still loom
Anyone here Tank as a Necrolord? Is there really any difference in convent abilities that affect the overall experience?
sweet summit
hey guys, i've leveled a warrior to 60 this week. I've played the class extensiv...
you take bolster without reprisal so SB uptime isnt giga low
sweet summit
Anyone here Tank as a Necrolord? Is there really any difference in convent abil...
not really, you just lose aoe threat/damage from spear/aa
still loom
not really, you just lose aoe threat/damage from spear/aa
Yeah that's kinda what I figured.
coral kayak
Does buff uptime in details show only in combat or all the time?
sweet summit
yes and its a terrible metric to track shield block uptime
coral kayak
Yes for what in combat or all time
sweet summit
yes for combat time only
coral kayak
Can i ask why its a terrible ?
sweet summit
because we want to block hits, not just have it up for the reason to have it up
therefore looking at blocked hits in logs is miles better for determining how well you did with shield block
modern brook
imagine being the guy with 100% uptime vs rixxa-esque fights
jagged pier
Can i ask why its a terrible ?
for a longer explaination/slightly more detail,
details will still count uptime when your kiting or a boss is casting or if you have your back turned to mobs etc in these cases the uptime of your shield block does nothing you really want to look at blocked hits on logs as erga said
coral kayak
Got it thanks
twin surge
Anyone here Tank as a Necrolord? Is there really any difference in convent abil...
There is a Big difference, the threat as necrolord it's much worse and to really shine as necro u need a lot of coordination with ur team on banner timing. And i think the shield hability it's not super.
floral pewter
hey guys, i've leveled a warrior to 60 this week. I've played the class extensiv...
hot damn, a +7 Tyrannical Necrotic at ilvl 150 is pretty boss tbh
modern brook
no
sweet summit
week 1 is fort burst volc
floral pewter
I feel ok about saying that nome is pretty boss as well
sweet summit
@modern brook 
halcyon coyote
hot damn, a +7 Tyrannical Necrotic at ilvl 150 is pretty boss tbh
Yes, Tyr. We arrived to last boss w 13 minutes to spare. Then I learned how hard soulcrusher hits me and died on first pull lol
modern brook
<@!204081428869283843> <:dandy:809705852658253844>
typo
sweet summit
halcyon coyote
Another issue I had on the 2nd pull was not polling rage during master of death and charing into muezhala without SB up 😂 (and without reprisal)
Quickly learned from it 🙃
jagged pier
its a weird mechanic
phyiscal damage
that the dot is based off
got to use phyiscal mitigation
to reduce the dot
or just reflect the dot
modern brook
@halcyon coyote you can just spam layer 3 TC to first boss until you get upper reaches
and get it that way
idk if someone told you that yet
halcyon coyote
Yeah but I haven't done TC 3 on any character yet. If it's not up today then I'll do it. Ty though
sweet summit
@ NA people 👀
signal plover
Werking
sweet summit
why doesnt wowhead show which wing is up :/
wispy scaffold
Anyone have a a list or resource for BIS gear for BFA? Trying to gear up a twink. Wowhead/Icyveins all redirect to Shadowlands.
covert saffron
Trying to make the best choice out of some crappy options in my vault. I actually got three trinket options but not sure how to rate them. Got Blade dancer (223), SLimey Organ (213) and splintered heart (213). Currently using the G Spike and Scale both 213. Any suggestions?
verbal rapids
best secondaries for raid and m+? Raid -> Haste then Vers? M+ Haste then Crit?
sweet summit
ilvl>haste>vers
as for trinkets in bfa you want vita charged titan shard from ra-den and the nzoth tank trinket/rezans gleaming eye/gore crusted butchers block
Azerite traits are Deafening Crash x1>Bastion of Might>stats like metic scheeming/clockwork heart (ilvl>rest still applies except for the first DC trait)
essences you take Vision of perfection major with Conflict and strife+memory of lucid dreams+sphere of suppression minors @wispy scaffold
sweet summit
best secondaries for raid and m+? Raid -> Haste then Vers? M+ Haste then Crit?
ilvl>>>haste>vers>crit>=mastery
sweet summit
Trying to make the best choice out of some crappy options in my vault. I actual...
al'ar. blade dancer and organ are omega stinky poop
verbal rapids
@sweet summit in both content types?
sweet summit
pmuch
for raid you tend to play more offensively so you can just sim yourself with raidbots -> top gear for more dps
dry kite
oof... 216 decanter or 220 mast/crit gloves? feels bad picking a dps trinket at only 204 ilvl
sweet summit
what trinkets do you have and what gloves do you have
covert saffron
al'ar. blade dancer and organ are omega stinky poop
I agree LOL was not sure if the 10 ilvl was enough for the dancer to be an upgrade. I am thinking I will grab the heart for M+ content but not sure.
dry kite
@sweet summit covenant gloves (197 vers haste) 194 SLH and 194 viscera (farming the fuck out of DoS like 15 runs dry for scale)
so either way its gonna be a nice stat upgrade
sweet summit
take gloves imo
dry kite
I do have haste/crit gloves on the bench for when iget more valor though
just so many pieces im dumping valor into atm
wispy scaffold
@sweet summit looks like I have some work to do... https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/undermine/kinron
solemn magnet
Trying to make the best choice out of some crappy options in my vault. I actual...
Alar fo sho
balmy coral
I have a 213 shield token, 213 chest, 213 wrists and 2 226 weapons, I have a 223 mh, 220 shield and 213 offhand for fury.
solemn magnet
Weapon
sweet summit
@wispy scaffold does Heart of Darkness still work
i dont remember if it does or not
wispy scaffold
nots ure
sweet summit
you have it available on your shoulders, and if it works id take it over iron fortress
dry kite
@sweet summit i could also grab 213 haste/crit shield when i have a 190 shield.. so torn still lol
dry kite
yeah? even though im passing up a 220 when im not gonna get ksm for a hot minute?
solemn magnet
Shield is biggest upgrade
dry kite
yes mommy
sweet summit
😳
wispy scaffold
Thanks @sweet summit
sweet summit
any time 
wispy scaffold
Trinket, Sword, Shield are my priorities atm
dark lark
How bad is Viscera of Coalescing Hatred?
sweet summit
solid setup
signal plover
Nom is cousin
sweet summit
yes
sweet summit
the good kind
jagged pier
🤔
tardy crane
recruitment is only allowed in the promotion channel right?
sweet summit
pretty much
tardy crane
no worries, just specifically looking for prot warrior, will make a post in there 🙂
tame jasper
its inspiring / stoprming this week? @lone plume-warriors
sweet summit
yes
sweet summit
balmy coral
I am sitting at 744 haste and 632 verse, 286 crit and 184 mastery
Am I doing it right?
sweet summit
if thats your highest ilvl gear yeah
floral pewter
pft, get speed instead
chilly brook
Am I doing it right?
Idk what's that sets ilvl? And is it the absolute highest ilvl you can equip?
balmy coral
Yes, I am around 219 atm
twilit jay
choice today was to upgrade from a 213 Scale up to a 226, or a 213 shield to a 220 shield.
sweet summit
take scale and get shield through valor 👀
shield is the biggest upgrade right now, but in the long run taking scale would be better
twilit jay
thats what i was thinking too, im pretty close to KSM so just gonna hold on
rancid ember
Scale likely going to hold up for a good portion of 9.1 too. Shield would likely be replaced by first ilvl upgrade you come across
balmy coral
Amazing, as fury I have 844 haste 296 crit 472 mastery and 250 vers. As prot I have744 haste 286 crit 184 mastery and 632 vers and the ilevel difference is 0.7
distant crystal
f that take shield
get scale through valor
ez
and in 9.1, get scale again through valor
226 shield + 220 scale > 220 shield + 226 scale
twilit jay
it was a 223 shield
distant crystal
eh still same principle
dry kite
anyone have any resources for utilizing engineering as a tank?
wanton condor
Press cardboard assassin when you need a breather
wet osprey
what item is the scale?
solemn magnet
Blood splattered scale
limpid star
in my M+ team we all got it on our alts before our actual tank did
literally like 4 of us just farting around in 2s lmao
biggest tragedy of the expac so far
digital escarp
Hey guys, just wondering what you would chose between 194 Sanguine Vintage and 213 Heart of Al'ar?
solemn magnet
Alar, personally
digital escarp
or both, but I lose Stone Legion Heraldry
sweet summit
slh @ what ilvl
digital escarp
220
sweet summit
ya keep that
solemn magnet
Heraldry and alar
limpid star
^
solemn magnet
that leach, tho xD
digital escarp
okok thx for feedback. But yeah the leech... and also 8mins cooldown in M+ is kinda poop
sweet summit
cooldown resets if you actually die tho
digital escarp
ohhh
sweet summit
and leech isnt a factor really
solemn magnet
The 8min CD resets when you really die and the leach is meaningless
limpid star
also if you're dying (or "dying") more than once every 8 min I don't think the leech trinket is going to save you those deaths
solemn magnet
Erga and I are the same person at this point
sweet summit
great minds think alike
digital escarp
also if you're dying (or "dying") more than once every 8 min I don't think the l...
You're completely right aha I agree with everything you guys said. Thanks again!
digital escarp
Wait it says inflicting 10k damage to nearby allies and enemies
allies get damaged?
sweet summit
it has a 3 yard range or something tiny
so its very rarely lethal to allies unless they stand ontop of you
digital escarp
okok so rip my sludgefist cotank but i getcha
limpid star
I mean they can just scoot to the left slightly
sweet summit
or u can just not die
limpid star
like literally strafe for half a second and you're out of range
solemn magnet
What's the worst that could happen? 🤔
limpid star
just get barghast leash and kill them with that instead
sweet summit
its very hard to die/proc al'ar on sludge as a prot warrior
so that shouldnt be an issue 😛
digital escarp
Now back to what you guys were talking about, Hakkar's trinket > everything?
sweet summit
its the best defensive trinket in the game currently yeah
there are a lot of trinkets that are better offensively tho
limpid star
it's actually bonkers how good that trinket is
I got it on my druid when I thought I wanted to play bear and it's just such instant threat
plus the absorb being great
I thought hey this looks pretty good (without having seen the conversations about it) and then I got the chance to actually use it and my eyes were opened
digital escarp
has anyone checked if m0 proc is good enough to be better than a heroic trinket
or do i have to suffer in m+
limpid star
if you have big valor bucks though you could theoretically just spam 2s for it
and then upgrade
if you value your sanity though I don't recommend that route
rancid ember
12 is 207 right? 4 Upgrades not horrible.
light thicket
so its very rarely lethal to allies unless they stand ontop of you
Maybe you can have some fun with that
Altho must be hard to set uo
Up
lofty widget
focus on ilvl instead
sweet summit
no specific stat% to aim for
lofty widget
and on equal ilvl pieces go for haste>vers>crit>=mast
limpid star
and sim yourself to get an idea of where you might be lacking
wet osprey
thnx, this is my alt im about 219 right now
my main is a mage, but my friends needed a tank for keys lol
limpid star
how good does it feel to not be part of the dps masses
albeit playing an "off-meta" tank I suppose
floral pewter
playing a tank in pugs can be incredibly satisfying, imo
because you have way more control over the run
as dps, a bad pug is just kinda out of your hands
as tank, you can almost force the run to go smoothly by pulling and routing well
limpid star
yuppp
mighty valley
hmm, another stygia week from vault I guess... unless Meat Hook is good for anything ever...?
sweet summit
can sim it against your current trinkets
mighty valley
i guess it's pretty good for raw dps
(the baseline here is 226 Scale / 220 Stone Legion)
sweet summit
fading quiver
Is there a softcap on haste that we dont want to to go above?
sweet summit
defensively yes
fading quiver
I'm sitting at 1050 haste (30%) but i can get even more from my vault rewards, but i remember someone saying something about 30% being the limit.
floral pewter
30% is where diminishing returns starts
but it only diminishes by 10%, so if you got enough rating for 40% you'd actually be at 39%
ie, kind of irrelevant
light thicket
defensively yes
I have a SLH and a hymnal of the path. Im not sure if i should keep farming scale
Hymnal is reeealy good
sweet summit
well do you feel like you need the extra defensive button?
light thicket
Not really
sweet summit
there you go
light thicket
Ithought maybe it would be better than heraldry
thorn ether
any tips for Lord Chamberlain?
fading quiver
+100 haste vs (+90 vers and -25 haste) when at 30%
sweet summit
the dot fucks yell at the healer to heal
fading quiver
feel like my vers is being neglected
floral pewter
any tips for Lord Chamberlain?
you can soak 2 beams if you cram yourself into his hitbox diagonally
should pop a big defensive when you do that though
sweet summit
you can deflect a tick of the soak with spell reflect
light thicket
If you are soaking 2 beams i guess you deflect 1 tick of each right?
floral pewter
+100 haste vs (+90 vers and -25 haste) when at 30%
125 haste vs 90 vers seems like a clear win for haste, even with the 10% loss from diminishing returns
it's a better stat and you get more of it
thorn ether
will spell reflect work towards the last ticks?
sweet summit
as long as SR is active you take 20% less magic damage, correct
warm remnant
ugh, 194 raid shield bead or crit/haste/avoidance boots out of vault (both are upgrades)
sweet summit
shield is the most important slot for us, so id go with that
warm remnant
Currently using PvP shield just haven't maxed it yet
sweet summit
if you wanna spend honor on that then sure, take boots
warm remnant
Make sure brain is remembering, avoidance is AE damage reduction right?
thorn ether
yes
sweet summit
correct
thorn ether
@sweet summit btw love it when u say correct
sweet summit
mighty valley
avoidance is a weird name to me
don't you avoid things aimed at you?
how do you avoid... fire?
warm remnant
Move.
mighty valley
i will keep this advice in mind when my house burns down
light thicket
The fallout pic of hiding under a desk while an atom bomb explodes nearby comes to mind
manic schooner
Tips for Ignore Pain usage? I think I'm using it too much and not enough revenges
lofty widget
as a rage dump/when you take lots of unblockable dmg/when you take heavy blockable dmg where SB isnt enough
languid light
Hey guys, thinking about leveling up a tank for M+ for 9.1. And I'm a metaslave, how are prot wars in 9.1?
mighty valley
no idea! the safest bet is probably to stick with DH, don't think the changes are wild enough to shake up meta perception that much
floral pewter
Hey guys, thinking about leveling up a tank for M+ for 9.1. And I'm a metaslave,...
so far, exactly the s ame as in 9.0.5
lofty widget
it's way too early to tell
amber herald
zero changes from current wow
mighty valley
if we all just say "warrior scaling" enough the people will believe it
we can shape reality with our memes
lavish oracle
Eh, no idea what the new affix is, might be warrior friendly
Probably worth having a warrior at max anyways, even if you don't play it
manic schooner
Season 2 affix is every boss casts a Gpie that deals 500k dmg, can be spell reflected
Warrior S++ tier
lavish oracle
Honestly anything that isn't sustained magic damage would be more warrior friendly than pride, haha
chilly brook
Hey guys, thinking about leveling up a tank for M+ for 9.1. And I'm a metaslave,...
If you have to ask you're not really a meta slave
hot pasture
LOL
if you aren't running 20+ keys and higher i cant imagine meta matter that much anyway - play what you enjoy
limpid star
yeah like even getting ksm isn't really that hard if you play something that's considered a bad spec you just have to work a little harder maybe (and pugging gets more difficult ofc)
plus if you actually enjoy a spec you'll probably play better and get more out of your time anyway
chilly brook
Blizz clearly didn't learn from PI
jagged pier
thats a pvp talent
fathom jacinth
Just got enough soul ash to craft reprisal. all the high rated io warrior have it on feet but wouldnt it be better to craft on legs? is it because SLG drops 233 legs? even tho 90% of the one I checked still wear 226 legs
chilly brook
thats a pvp talent
It says baseline
The pvp talents are in a different portion
Ah nvm
chilly brook
Just bad source
mighty valley
Just got enough soul ash to craft reprisal. all the high rated io warrior have i...
feet is best IF you're clearing mythic SLG, AND only for this patch, since we have no idea where the biggest ilvl pieces will go next patch
reprisal legs is probably the play longer-term but impossible to know for sure
hot pasture
just craft both at max fuck it
limpid star
that's the 200 IQ play
the tooltip says you can only equip one legendary, but if you have 2 of the same that's still just one legendary
ez stats
sweet summit
limpid star
storming is annoying but really just a matter of paying attention. if your group has a lot of melee though it's worse because people are constantly having to reposition
other than that it feels like a pretty ez week to me
if you mean that you don't know what it does, storming spawns random tornadoes around mobs
sweet summit
inspiring can slow you down a few places like the maze in mists
limpid star
they knock you up in the air
hot oxide
checked the website, both mythic affixes are green
sweet summit
but overall any fort week is a push week :)
limpid star
yeah inspo is annoying too but if people play it right and do good enough prio damage it's also manageable
I feel like it's really annoying in dos just because the timer is pretty tight as it is and anything that makes you take the pulls slower can be killer
hot oxide
i really have no patience for plaguefall this week...
limpid star
I have no patience for plaguefall any week
manic schooner
Inspired bears hurt 😦
torpid fiber
have a couple drinks and verbally abuse them so they give up on their dreams and aspirations
hot pasture
yall just got done kiting all of last week - inspiring bears fuckin run. lol
hot oxide
last week was a alt week for me
hot pasture
last week was a fun week imo
light thicket
I have no patience for plaguefall any week
This right here
wild hemlock
i leveled a Brewmaster last week lol
hot pasture
nothing will clench your buttcheeks like that first pull in DoS with bolstering and necrotic lmao
hot oxide
i leveled a Brewmaster last week lol
my WW was amazingly fun
light thicket
Block till necrotic gets high
Then phial it off
Then see a mob grow to oblivion bc none focused it and now has likr 5 bolsters
hot oxide
i feel like the healer basiclly says fuck it, "If he dies, he dies" in the drago voice from rockey
Rocky*
hot pasture
then run
wild hemlock
my WW was amazingly fun
i think im too smooth of a monkey brain for WW
hot pasture
lol
grand drum
Has the Kyrian leggo been datamined yet
sweet summit
negative, sir
grand drum
:(
sweet summit
makes it pre-nerf spear 🥵
signal plover
:coom:
sweet summit
hnnnggg
grand drum
Makes spear and dragon roar pre nerf
stark lion
Tanking M+ 15's, what do:
sweet summit
spike+al'ar
grand drum
Poor choices but imo the spike and pvp haste trinket
sweet summit
can sim yourself if you dont need the survivability from al'ar to see which trinket would give you the most damage
stark lion
I really like the alar buffer. If keeping alar, spike makes the most sense as 2nd trink?
sweet summit
yes
just the ilvl makes it better than the other trinkets
do you not have any "dps trinkets"?
solemn magnet
I'm with Erga. Alar and spike
sweet summit
hmm probably stick to spike+al'ar then
solemn magnet
Only because of the avoidance xD
sweet summit
avoidance isn't super amazing
solemn magnet
Oh I know. It's a meme
sweet summit
fair
grand drum
Wasnt leech the meme?
sweet summit
leech is the OG meme
hot oxide
o.O
fleet river
as a tank with almost 12% avoidance, it isnt a meme
limpid star
no he's resto lol
grand drum
In legion if you used sleeper+tichondruis trinket it would be like 50% leech
sweet summit
that's wild
limpid star
ven is more of an anomaly yes but necro is not really good outside of pvp
like it's not awful but it's way behind nf still
limpid star
tru
limpid star
bonkers fuckin spell
limpid star
rdruid is my main and like defensive convoke for healing is considered fairly mediocre as an option but it still tops your group most of the time lol
and yet you use it in moonkin form on prides mostly like it's just too good of a spell
light thicket
That convoke leggo from 9.1 seemed really good
solemn magnet
Does it?
limpid star
ehhh
fleet river
resto moonkin convoke is bomb because it allows your dps to hold their cooldowns for boss
limpid star
^
solemn magnet
I think it depends on the next season affix
mighty valley
simply feral heal
solemn magnet
If you don't need a 1min cd that leggo is trash
limpid star
pulsar probably new meta on moonkin with boat getting bonked
sweet summit
pulsar is the every x AP you spend u get incarn?
fleet river
300 AP spent = 12s CA
sweet summit
same thing
fleet river
no, sotf for m+ or starlord for raid (sometimes)
hot oxide
hmmmm
sleek fox
Nice 😂
solemn magnet
Nice pvp ring
vocal bison
I have that for pvp, it’s chonky
jolly spindle
wtf did prot always have whirlwind
jolly spindle
this is the first dungeon i see a prot warrior use it
rancid ember
He just flexin his kyrian potion
jolly spindle
must have been on cd cause he died
rancid ember
Damn you still in necrotic week? it's storming week over here xd
limpid star
communications from a distant time and place
strong forum
i mean yuh
warri is the tank that needs to kite the least on heroic
if ever
its not uncommon to go over 40 stacks
(next to bear having their stupid legendary ignore necrotic)
patent osprey
warri is the tank that needs to kite the least on heroic
Pfft Pally Final stand REKT
nova rover
Ok guys is Lightless force better than celestial guidance?
plush tendon
Pfft Pally Final stand REKT
What a great ability; Paladins in Final Stand is how all tanks should feel XD
grand trellis
Is skipping trash on the ring of dps viable? Does that stuff disappear after you spawn the last boss?
hot oxide
(next to bear having their stupid legendary ignore necrotic)
what, what?!?! Do I need to bear tank for a bit?
hasty heath
As NF what's the best souldbind you'd suggest?
I left the boobie angels and went Hippie a few days ago Q_Q
sweet summit
niya with burrs or korayn with first strike
hot oxide
Korayn with first strike.......yum yum
hasty heath
Roger dodger ty
patent osprey
BIG DAM korayn
floral pewter
Is skipping trash on the ring of dps viable? Does that stuff disappear after you...
assuming you mean DOS, no, it doesn't despawn
distant crystal
but you can bring trash onto the boss to kill it with the buff if you wanna get sweaty
modest osprey
are you alliance or horde?
digital arch
horde
modest osprey
ew lol
digital arch
all the time that i do a 17, some dps pull or die for any mechanic
and go out after this
lime plume
Can you block the damage from giant fist on sludgefist as the off tank?
sturdy sable
Yes
cinder nova
almost rank 10 from my server
You want a dead server? I'm top 5 with 1493
Moon Guard is a desolate wasteland for warrior
There's maybe less than 1000 worthwhile players on the server
plush tendon
im only 1850 and number 1 Protty on my server
though, im also 63 region; theres still not a lot of us
hollow owl
hey random question for M+ this week. what's generally the best way to handle storming? do you move away from it or just stand still and have the melee have to dodge it
plush tendon
Storming is aids; I generally like to move should it get too congested
so case by case basis, and if you run full melee cleave, best to move often so they can be safe; you dont want DPS thinking about tornadoes instead of doing damage
warped mulch
Stormin on millhouse makes me hate everything, especially if you most trusted crystal guy is melee
fickle ingot
@strong forum
:peepowave:
why can't I emote
and alavisto's not in here either 😦
brittle owl
🥑 has left some time ago
brittle owl
this is 
chilly brook
why can't I use my emotes in here
No outside emotes in skyhold
It's a big feelsbad