protection

[cinder nova]

But I'm only like... 1300 so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blazing condor]

thats where it started getting worse for me

but that was in 9.0

[autumn ingot]

what legendary do you guys usually run with in mythic dungeon?

[blazing condor]

reprisal

[cinder nova]

Reprisal

[autumn ingot]

3 leap legos anyone?

[blazing condor]

not in m+ : p

[cinder nova]

Use Reprisal, pick up BSC and Rav

Pump

[autumn ingot]

come on its the best this week lmao

[blazing condor]

well you dont really need 3x leaps to clear

:p

[autumn ingot]

so you guys are telling me that im the only one using the 3 leap legos? haha

[blazing condor]

outside of pvp probably yeah

[surreal sinew]

Man it’s the best

[cinder nova]

Yes. It's a meme leggo with no practical use outside of PVP.

[blazing condor]

you can leap once and it's gucci if you wanna clear stacks

[surreal sinew]

Carried me on arti mythic

[blazing condor]

you dont even need to leap

[surreal sinew]

Just bounce about and do seeds

[chilly brook]

Yes its not worth

Meme of the meme

[autumn ingot]

what about the wall?

[cinder nova]

Wall is the raid leggo

[autumn ingot]

with anger management

[cinder nova]

Reprisal is the M+ leggo

[chilly brook]

Outside of just clearing old content and pvp leaper is a meme

[autumn ingot]

for this week I think runnin with 3 leapos is not that bad

[chilly brook]

Wall with AM=raid

[cinder nova]

It's a waste.

You don't need 3 leaps.

[chilly brook]

It is that bad

[autumn ingot]

I just did not maintain my aggro and that is why my team was pissed at me at the end eventhough we almost timed it twice

[chilly brook]

Wall with Bolster=keys if you dont like reprisal

[cinder nova]

You're giving up an enormous amount of block uptime and damage by using that legendary.

[blazing condor]

just curious whats your rio rn? @autumn ingot 😄

[chilly brook]

I'd be pissed with your ass as a dps too

[blazing condor]

if you come out with 2k io i might switch

kapp

[autumn ingot]

my io is not that high around 1k+

[chilly brook]

You're killing your runs

Because you're not holding aggro

And because you're wasting time leaping around when you have no need

[cinder nova]

Reminds me of that one guy in #fury that was like "Nah guys Frenzy is better in M+ than Massacre" and everyone wanted him to show us the math for it while he chirped about being 2K.

[blazing condor]

not to mention youre losing a bit of DPS by not being able to have SB up and pumping revenges

meaning keys take longer time

[autumn ingot]

alright so I dont have reprisal yet

[cinder nova]

Wall and Bolster.

[blazing condor]

feel like bolster might be worth on DoS to run even with reprisal tbh

eases some bigger pulls and mili

[chilly brook]

Eh

[cinder nova]

Nothing in DOS hurts us except like...

The Death Speakers.

Shadowcore will dumpster you

[chilly brook]

Shield Wall is better in DoS

[autumn ingot]

I actually havent tried using bolster what does bolster do?

[chilly brook]

Because lots of non blockable damage

[blazing condor]

Bolster gives your Last Stand shield block for its duration

[autumn ingot]

I only know anger managerment is the best one for mythic and raid

[chilly brook]

Lmao my guy

AM was not the best for m+ until like 2 weeks ago

[blazing condor]

ive run a lot of DoS this week and i feel like im only having AM for the avatar

which is good enough ig

[autumn ingot]

ill give it a shot bolster and the wall

[chilly brook]

And only in conjunction with reprisal

[cinder nova]

I will say, Griff, that's probably true.

If I do DOS this week I might just go Bolster/Wall.

[blazing condor]

DoS is super easy this week

[cinder nova]

The bleed on manastorm is a cunt

[blazing condor]

yeah milificent a bitch

[chilly brook]

If you have dps that dont stun her it's bad

[blazing condor]

i usually end up going through all my CDs for her on tyrannical

[chilly brook]

If you have good dps the stacks dont normally get too high

[blazing condor]

at least you can SR a little

[chilly brook]

It still sucks

[blazing condor]

and phial if kyrian

other than that just gotta prayge

[autumn ingot]

guys I have one question, everytime the mobs stacked up to each other, it makes it difficult for me to use interrup when a mob is casting

[chilly brook]

Get better nameplates

[autumn ingot]

so what kinda addons that makes a caster more visible

[blazing condor]

there are a lot

ive been using threatplates for a while which works for me

[chilly brook]

Threatplates, plater etc.

[autumn ingot]

I dont know how to set it up so yeah thats also the reason lol

I think I have all the addons but I just dont know what to do with it

[strong forum]

Start slowly and get yourself familiar with them, take some inspiration from others

[chilly brook]

Plenty of content on YouTube to walk you through setups

[strong forum]

And work your way through

[autumn ingot]

so why is bolster good with the wall, is anger management better with the wall?

[chilly brook]

Because block uptime

[autumn ingot]

I think angermanagement is better with the wall

[chilly brook]

It's not

[autumn ingot]

so that I can use the wall ever big pulls

[strong forum]

You will lack block uptime when running AM

[autumn ingot]

how long does bolster shield last?

[chilly brook]

16 seconds

[autumn ingot]

16???

what the

[chilly brook]

On top of your block charges

[autumn ingot]

that long?

[chilly brook]

Might be 15

Idr

[autumn ingot]

sheeesh

[chilly brook]

All I know is you can get over 30 seconds of block

[autumn ingot]

I might actually try running with bolster

[chilly brook]

Straight

Shield Wall is good

[autumn ingot]

so the wall acts like anger management and bolster for extra uptime block

[strong forum]

Si

[chilly brook]

But you're gonna get clapped when you have nothing

[autumn ingot]

sheeesh

[chilly brook]

Which is why bolster is the play with the wall

[autumn ingot]

what if I have 3 leaps with bolster

[chilly brook]

No

[strong forum]

No

[vocal bison]

Lol

[chilly brook]

Delete that legendary smh

It's useless in pve

[autumn ingot]

its like a combination of kiting and heavy tanking

[modern brook]

griffs afraid of progress smh

[modern brook]

memes aside this is contradictory

[autumn ingot]

best in both worlds

[chilly brook]

You dont need leaper to kite.....

[strong forum]

You don't kite

[modern brook]

whats the point of aving heavy defensives if you're just going to kite

[strong forum]

How often do you need 3 leaps

Be real

[chilly brook]

Never lmao

[modern brook]

more over you dont need to kite anymore - at least not to the point where u need to cover 60yds

[strong forum]

Bounding stride gives you a leap every 30 seconds

[autumn ingot]

when the stacks are going up

[strong forum]

That's PLENTY

[signal plover]

We back on this leaper talk again hotdamn

[autumn ingot]

ez escape

[modern brook]

just use the shield and stop caring

[vocal bison]

intervene the healer to create distance of leap is on CD

or range

[autumn ingot]

I mean 9 seconds of stacks are kinda dangerous

[lusty marsh]

Just use kleia ez clap.

I assume it's necrotic week with all the talk on kiting.

[chilly brook]

This is old

But my guy

You need to watch this

https://youtu.be/-nPShmyequ4

@autumn ingot

[modern brook]

shameless 😏

[chilly brook]

So shameless I haven't even made a new video in over 2 months

[modern brook]

that ones gotta hit the like goal - i understand

I stay subbed

[chilly brook]

Lol

Necrotic really do be a meme affix especially on Tyranical

[strong forum]

A great weekly only key week

[chilly brook]

With the Tyranical nerfs Tyranical isn't that bad

[blazing condor]

i kinda prefer it tbh

even though it loses more time id imagine

[chilly brook]

In all honesty I'm not a fan of the inconsistency in general between weeks

I'd prefer trash to always be as tough as it should be week to week and same with bosses

[autumn ingot]

wait so how do you maintain your aggro if you run too far to reset the stacks?

[blazing condor]

Just deal damage in the pack

Ravager TC and revenge all hells

Helps*

[autumn ingot]

yeah but if I do it, the mobs starts attacking my dps

its really weird

[blazing condor]

Ancient aftershock or kyrian spear is ez aggro

Idk ive never had any aggro issues like that so i couldnt tell you :/

You could challenging shout to gain a lot of aggro during it

But thats not really viable

[cinder storm]

spam HT when you see an add losing aggro and do all the aforementioned

[autumn ingot]

that was my only problem, I just cant maintain my aggro everytime I want to reset my stacks

[strong forum]

By dealing sufficient amount of dmg before you need to kite

[autumn ingot]

maybe I should leave a ravager before I jump out

[modern brook]

High key

If you're losing aggro when kiting to drop stacks

you're kiting way too early and for way too long

[strong forum]

^

[autumn ingot]

oh maybe thats it

[plush tendon]

I dont think initial aggro should be too hard as prot war; press revenge, ravager, Avatar

[modern brook]

only ttime aggro should be even remotely close to an issue is at the start of a pull you're burning cds on

[plush tendon]

I mean, if my blood dk can hold aggro, you can to!

[modern brook]

Is blood boil target capped?

[autumn ingot]

haha I need to watch someone plays

maybe im doing it wrong

[modern brook]

Sense, Plka, Nomeratur

all 3 have twitches

and arent stinky

[blazing condor]

Me too #shamelessselfplug

[plush tendon]

it is uncapped, but doesnt change the fact that blood dks hit like wet noodles

having DRW on pull does help, but damage output on blood is currently a issue; I believe they are lowest damage tank ATM

[modern brook]

Yeah i was mostly just curious

maybe they should try getting a 10% aura buff

[autumn ingot]

or maybe Ishould just record myself and post it on youtube so that you guys can point out my mistakes

[short kiln]

Is PW second in Damage now?

[plush tendon]

They are up there; most tanks do pretty good damage (lets ignore Prot Paladin since they dont really tank)

[short kiln]

agreed. 🙂

[plush tendon]

VDH sigil great for initial aggro, Bears have low damage, but have some big damage CDs and uncapped thrash, Monks do dam, and War does dam

[short kiln]

yooooo... this is amazing as a newer PW.

[strong forum]

Bear needs ramp-up time, that's their biggest issue

But once they're rolling it's 👌

[plush tendon]

I think the only tank really struggling with aggro and damage is blood

[short kiln]

I've found that completely. night and day threat gen between it and my VDH

[strong forum]

Blood has no snap aggro or huge dmg ye

But their dmg isn't dogshit

[blazing condor]

dont need to hold aggro if you raise ally 🤔

that sounded wrong

[plush tendon]

their overall isnt bad

[blazing condor]

nvm what i said

[plush tendon]

but there is also very little gameplay you can do as blood to push your damage

the biggest thing is using blooddrinker on CD and thats only for ST

[jagged pier]

this is the best video content tbh

[plush tendon]

its aight; its old though

but the affix match this week, so good on you

[short kiln]

I really value videos like that one where the thought and reasoning behind skill usage and gameplay are explained. It's SUPER helpful.

[chilly brook]

Thanks I should really probably do another one I'm just not all in on reprisal yet

[short kiln]

as in you're not sold on it, or not in the swing of using it perfectly yet?

[jagged pier]

i did one on reprisal griff your safe

[short kiln]

I'm on a massive push right now to hit 60 just so I can get into L3 torghast to get the leggo so I don't have to wait or grind Corridors

[chilly brook]

Your goal is to stay in as long as you can and only leave when you need to and only as long as it takes to drop stacks or to get shield block back if you're getting pummeled

[chilly brook]

I'm not a fan of it, I could definitely be using it wrong but I feel way better with wall/bolster

[plush tendon]

I also have a weakaura that once I get to like 20 stacks, it tells my group that Im dipping the fuck out

might be helpful

so they know, hes ready to dip

[finite berry]

Sup dudes, bear main here and looking to play another tank for fun. Can’t decide between kyrian or NF for warrior. Kinda leaning towards kyrian because NF is so saturated atm. What cov do u guys like to play?

[chilly brook]

Maybe that's the content I need so I can magically like reprisal

[chilly brook]

If I wasn't fury for raid I'd 100% say NF

[sweet summit]

both are great, neither will limit your ability to do content

so if youre leaning towards kyrian, go kyrian

[finite berry]

Which does more dam? Lol

[sweet summit]

nf

[finite berry]

Ok nf it is

LOL

[plush tendon]

People like NF, but a lot go Kyrian to fill dungeon buff

[finite berry]

Thx for the info guys 🙂

[plush tendon]

You can also be Necrolord 😄

<- like this guy

[strong forum]

And lose 200+ dps!

📈

[wanton condor]

and cry necrotic weeks

[plush tendon]

Necrotic aint that bad

[wanton condor]

I'm currently doing a world tour of covenants

[plush tendon]

I honestly dont see the fuss about it

[cinder storm]

I find Necro fun, but I m planning on going back to kyr, my heals (disc) is kyrian and shes adamant about going venth

[wanton condor]

as I was on kyrian but wanted to branch out

so I went night fae snare shot

[cinder storm]

I m thinking about trying venthyr lol, at the start of the xpac I was like, I will never swap covs

[jagged pier]

i doubt it if u dont like it now u never will

[plush tendon]

You can have success in any cov as a Prot War; if you are running with a consistent group, I would recommend being the guy who fills a dungeon buff

[wanton condor]

thinking going going venthyr next, but I honestly really enjoy NF arms

battlelord feels amazing

[chilly brook]

Maybe, I just legit feel less tanky with reprisal

And obviously dislike the playstyle

[cinder storm]

@plush tendon I am now, just this week was able to break into the 18s with this consistent grp.

Like if pwar would be the least impacted by changing cov then I dont mind doing it

[plush tendon]

I think its better to always have DPS take their BiS cov then the tank and healer try to fill in what is missing if running with a group

[cinder storm]

Yeah, my heals is disc and we dont raid, our only issue is HoA, we've tried that keys with and without venthyr and not having the buff there makes it a lot more challenging, having it makes it a walk in the park

[plush tendon]

Having a Venthyr in the group is almost essential; I wouldnt step into HoA without a Venthyr and if you do SD you want a Venthyr and abuse those cannisters

especially with the update to how they function and their location

[jagged pier]

depends i play badly i feel about the same if i play well i feel very tanky

[sick sentinel]

What are the best stats, I'm seeing a lot of people prioritize the until before the versa, do you have to reach a cap of some stat?

[hot sky]

I know it's weird but I'm leveling a prot warrior (mechagnome, for more cringe) and I'm thinking of equipping it versa / crit with leggo reprisal, how do you see it? (rbg focus)

thanks in advance

[plush tendon]

haste/vers is usually the play, but you can replace vers with crit if you want damage.

[hot sky]

nah vers is main stat in pvp, im thinkin in change haste per crit

maybe mix it up

but mainly crit thinkin

[plush tendon]

uhhhh that seems like a bad idea, but you do you

[hot sky]

just theorycrafting

why?

[plush tendon]

haste= lower CD SB, more GCDs for more rage, which means more dam and def

[hot sky]

u know the pvp gear its not all about crit/vers

the offparts i cant crit i go haste :/

[plush tendon]

I honestly cant tell you; if you are gearing for RBGs then just do you.

[hot sky]

kk

thanks 4 the info

a little disappointed with the copies of the mechagnome tbh lol

but the heal is nice

[sand condor]

im angry

i got put as tank

dps*

because our paladin finally showed up

and ever since our pulls have only been worse

[uneven mason]

context

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/turk-took-our-jobs-jerbs-gif-10165889

[fallow jasper]

roster boss

blegh

[uneven mason]

indeed

[frigid roost]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PrLvXtBHZ9fzJbgV#fight=last please roast my tank buddy ❤️

[wild sandal]

plz dont

[sweet summit]

too late

[wild sandal]

but id appricate some pointer

[sweet summit]

ive already looked

blocked hits a bit on the low side

[light thicket]

Have you pointed out paladins dont actually tank?

[strong forum]

you never use ignore pain

lul

[sand condor]

i have pointed out that he is a moron

and our other tank agrees

and our raid agrees

but somehow

even while he refuses to show up 50% of raids

[sweet summit]

only 9 SW casts and 5 LS casts over 30 minutes 👀

[sand condor]

he gets the tank spot

[sweet summit]

lots of rage wasted to overcapping

[light thicket]

After tuesdays flaming of ppl who use ignore pain too much

Ive been trying to cut down

[frigid roost]

@wild sandal im sorry buddy ❤️

[light thicket]

Dont make me doubt again

Lol

[wild sandal]

hehehe, its all good

[sweet summit]

looks like youre just not using cooldowns

like demo/avatar/sw/ls

[strong forum]

î was looking at cow's log

[wild sandal]

ye ill watch over that more and the rage thing

[strong forum]

he had a total of 24 IP casts in an entire dungeon

[light thicket]

Ye i know

[strong forum]

[light thicket]

Just kidding

[wild sandal]

so i should do more IP or less?

[sweet summit]

use it to avoid overcapping rage

tbh

[light thicket]

More cd usage i think

You probably keep saving them thinking youll need them later on

[frigid roost]

biggest question tho did he condemn enough?

[light thicket]

And end up rarely using them

[wild sandal]

ye that is true

[light thicket]

Revenge ftw

[sweet summit]

condemn looks alright

[wild sandal]

thanks for the pointers guys, cant wait to do another and get anther roast ❤️

[sweet summit]

youre using it a lot on trash packs, which is not ideal
pump revenge in aoe

[modern brook]

lightless > celestial is big balled

[sweet summit]

revenge>condemn on 3 targets

[solid cairn]

what do you use to pump your healing up ?

[sweet summit]

take more damage lol

[solid cairn]

From my logs i seems to be on the lower part

[sweet summit]

dont worry about self healing as prot

[light thicket]

Accidentaly pulling with lighless is awesome

[sweet summit]

its a trap

your hps will look good if you just pump IP and take a fuckton of damage

[wild sandal]

ye will do , thanks again

[modern brook]

its cause ur not revenging enough for indom 🙂

[solid cairn]

oh yeah there is that thing

Seems funny that all the "healing" of the war prot is on the same talent row

[edgy void]

Guys, I got 220 legs and 171 boots. Should i still craft Reprisal on legs and hope to get better boots soon or just get the boots now?

[sweet summit]

just do boots

[cunning harness]

@edgy void do you have access to mythic SLG legs?

[sweet summit]

no big difference

[cunning harness]

if not craft the legs you will get boots later

in the long run the legs are more stats

[edgy void]

Nah. we still need to get by councel, inerva and sludge

[cunning harness]

Then just make the legs for sure

[edgy void]

before i can get a chance at mythic slg

[solid cairn]

they should had something to destroy a leg and get back some souls ash if not everything

[uneven mason]

Oh you scrapped a 190 lego, here is 15 soul ash back

[modern brook]

POG

[uneven mason]

Remember titan residum or whatnot

[solid cairn]

Maybe a little bit much ^^

[modern brook]

the secret to leggos is understanding that 235 is a waste of resources unless you literally have nothing else to ash up

[uneven mason]

"Scrapped mythic Uldir peice - got 10 residium

[uneven mason]

You don't waste anything

but the cost of the 235

[modern brook]

opprotunity

[uneven mason]

true

[modern brook]

the upgrade from 225->235 is literally another legendary at like 210

[uneven mason]

since the jump doubles

[modern brook]

or just under

[uneven mason]

yup

just under 2k

why my reprisal is still 225

[solid cairn]

so i should just craft a 225 one and not a 235

[modern brook]

if you have nothing else you want to make theres no reason not to make a 235

but if you want multiple legendaries for different content

[solid cairn]

the gold

[uneven mason]

but if say, you want to get a Seismic to 225

which I do

to spam run +2s

[modern brook]

10 ilvls is not worth the loss of utility IMO

Obviously best case is just max all of them but again its time gated so u gotta make some decisions

[uneven mason]

Macro'd "I need Valor, try and keep up" as I pug +2s

[modern brook]

throw that on Shield slam and have a good time

[uneven mason]

revenge

maybie TC so I'll only press it once a dungeon

[plush moat]

hey guys is there like a addon/weakaura that shows your blocked attacks income ? like in the middle of your screen

[autumn ingot]

guys which dungeon do you guys hate the most?

[plush tendon]

seems like useless information... I bet its out there, but really you should be more worried about SB uptime rather then if you blocked a attack or not

[autumn ingot]

mine is Necrotic Wake

[plush tendon]

De Other Side

[golden pollen]

SD, gaunlets part of the dungeon 😦

[autumn ingot]

NW is just messed up lol

[plush tendon]

IDK, NW is pretty free now and much more enjoyable with the nerfs

[autumn ingot]

HoA too those bears are just too op

thats where I got the idea of running with 3 leapos

[uneven mason]

Stun the loyal beasts?

[autumn ingot]

sometimes its not enough

[plush moat]

Ventyr > door of shadows kek & leap

[light thicket]

Plaguefall

For sure

[golden pollen]

intervene to range? or ask dps to help slow 😮

[uneven mason]

Soulshape > door of shadows

instant buffs your movement speed!

[autumn ingot]

nah dps are always out of range

[light thicket]

But dont waste the revenge proc if you do

[autumn ingot]

you guys should try running with the 3 leaps its actually not that bad

all jokes aside

[mighty valley]

3 leaps seems like kiting overkill lol

[modern brook]

all jokes aside yall should stop running its march kiting died in like early feb

[light thicket]

I've never had to use more than 1 leap

But ill take your word for it

[mighty valley]

just need to kite long enough to drop necrotic or dog bleeds these days

[autumn ingot]

yeah exactly kiting, with 3 leaps you can do big pulls and use spear and leave ravager around the mobs to maintain aggro while you can just hop in and out repeat

I just did 3 big pulls like it wasnt a big deal at all

[light thicket]

But you gpt so little damage that way

Why not stay and spam revenge

[autumn ingot]

you still can but since there is gonna be like a lot of monsters hitting you, the stacks go up three times faster than a normal pull so you can just leave a ravager before you hop out so that you can still maintain the aggro

stacks reset and repeat

[tardy parcel]

kyrian phial with kleia to stay in place for 8 seconds... big brain

[modern brook]

I've said it before: just use the shield. Necrotic stacks barely affect us

[jagged pier]

i mean u dont need to kite till like 40-50 stacks anyways

[autumn ingot]

yeah I have that too, I think it also depends on how good the dps but so far big pulls like what im doing rn takes awhile for us to clear it

so 3 leaps are actually good for this week idk you guys should definitely try it

[jagged pier]

i dunno 40-50 stacks pot 40-50 stacks leap

packs dead

[tardy parcel]

you are also definitely losing a significant amount of damage by not being there to damage the mobs yourself

which might be part of why they're staying up for so long

[jagged pier]

i do around if not more damage in aoe than some classes now in pugs

so if i leave packs take a long time

[autumn ingot]

I mean you can still do a lot of damage sicne you can leave your ravager while resetting the stacks

[jagged pier]

ravager doesnt do that much damage

[autumn ingot]

hop out leave ravager + spear

thats enough to make up for it

[light thicket]

Ravager isnt that much dmg honestly

[jagged pier]

so you rnot using spear with avatar

[plush tendon]

This seems like a lot of effort to be playing sub optimally

[jagged pier]

thats a yikes

[light thicket]

Exactly

[autumn ingot]

so basically this playstyle is hopping in and out

[jagged pier]

sounds shit to me

[tardy parcel]

this also unfortunately definitely will not help you hold aggro on big packs unless you have like an md or tricks

[light thicket]

Why do all this whrn you can just stay

[hot oxide]

sounds like VDH to me

[plush tendon]

I mean, you do you. But I wouldnt recommend anyone do this

[autumn ingot]

double time talent is a must on thsi build too

[light thicket]

Have 8 secs of SB for free and revenge procs

[jagged pier]

and it seems so is leapers so your leggo gives no offensive or defensive value against a boss

in tyran week

[autumn ingot]

wait how is it not going to maintain my aggro

[jagged pier]

🤔

[autumn ingot]

I have ravager down and spear

[light thicket]

Not really

[small marsh]

Why hop out when you can 🧱 with Reprisal

[ionic fern]

What build?

[autumn ingot]

because I dont have reprisal

[languid flower]

Brawny, I often use leaper myself

[small marsh]

You're not a DH you're a warrior

[autumn ingot]

yeah exactly leaper is the new wave

[small marsh]

Less 🪁 more 🧱

[autumn ingot]

im just saying you guys should try it

[jagged pier]

hes using leapers to hop in and out of pulls for some reasons 🤷

[ionic fern]

What

Why would anyone do that.

Except for "Lol, i like it"

[jagged pier]

i will never try this

[small marsh]

Leaper isn't giving you anything for aggro

[autumn ingot]

also I only have 8% versatility so that makes me vulnerable even more

[languid flower]

because when you're pushing mythic+ that you can't actually tank, you have to do somethign else.

[ionic fern]

What key levels?

[small marsh]

Ravager and Spear are not from leaper

[autumn ingot]

hopping in and out with double time and 3 leapos legos is actually pretty good

[ionic fern]

What m+ can't we actually tank?

🤔

[jagged pier]

vers means NOTHING unless your doing 24s +

[languid flower]

...

[small marsh]

Actually yeah Brawny what key levels are you talking about

[autumn ingot]

14s

[ionic fern]

...

[autumn ingot]

around there

[jagged pier]

....

[small marsh]

What the fuck

[jagged pier]

🤔

[wanton condor]

I mean, what ilvl are you

197?

gonna be rough

[jagged pier]

ppl did 15s at 170

[ionic fern]

Okay, so...before this thing gets out of hand.
If you like to play Leaper - do it.
But it's by no means/necessary/optimal.

[autumn ingot]

with my leaper im 212

but with my wall im 215

still working my way up

[wanton condor]

I did my first 15 in the low 200s?

[languid flower]

@autumn ingot do try to farm up for reprisal, though. used to leap a lot, but with reprisal I find I can stay in.

[ionic fern]

If you feel like you're getting wrecked in a +14 and need to kite a lot please post logs and i'll be happy to help you out and get tankier.

[jagged pier]

☝️

[languid flower]

obviously not every pull, though

[autumn ingot]

how do I post logs

[ionic fern]

I can guarantee you that it's your playstyle that's forcing you to kite.

[languid flower]

haven't tried this week, but I'm prepared to swap in my hoppin' boots depending on how things go

[jagged pier]

u dont need to kite this week really

we arent based of healing ourselves

just mitigation

[ionic fern]

@autumn ingot #protection message

Erga did a nice writeup.

[light thicket]

Mwahi is awake, everybody hide your war machine and never surrender talent choices

[jagged pier]

can we pin that?

[ionic fern]

Not in this channel.

[jagged pier]

F

[light thicket]

Isnt it pinned somewhere?

Could swear i saw that posted somewhere

[autumn ingot]

so what key level are you guys rn?

[jagged pier]

17/18s

[languid flower]

I'm tryin' to get KSM

[autumn ingot]

damn

[light thicket]

^

[ionic fern]

If you feel like you want help you can also just stream a key for me and i can let you know what you are doing wrong on voice. 🤷

[light thicket]

But im just lazy

[ionic fern]

Most people don't like it tho since "But you're mean!! AND I KNOW BEST!!!"

[autumn pendant]

But i know best

[autumn ingot]

I got 16 key last two weeks ago but I blew it up because we were getting wipe a lot and samething with my 15 key Ireally thought I could get out of 14

[ionic fern]

Go back to Fury.

[autumn pendant]

Roger

[ionic fern]

[autumn ingot]

that was my only chance of reaching higher levels

[autumn pendant]

You want to discourage me from playing prot

I see

[jagged pier]

i mean Mwahi knows best

[cinder storm]

Maybe some people enjoy being verbally abused by Mwahi

[ionic fern]

We only take 100% Prot spec only players here, sorry.

[autumn ingot]

does anyone here doing 20+ keys?

[jagged pier]

mwahi

[autumn pendant]

That is racist

[signal plover]

Wait I can have Mwahi narrate my keys morgan freeman style?

[light thicket]

But can't guarantee hell jist give you a meme build and say its his secret key timing build

[ionic fern]

I'm a slacker.

I'm still like 29 NF renown.

[autumn ingot]

I cant even imagine running 20+ mythic level

[ionic fern]

And 218 ilvl.

[jagged pier]

if mwahi told me to run MW i would consider it

[ionic fern]

😂

[autumn ingot]

it seems impossible to time a 20+ key as a prot warrior

[jagged pier]

probably due to your playstyle

[autumn ingot]

yeah I probably should farm my reprisal before hitting higher dungeons levels

[cinder storm]

Whats your comp?

[autumn ingot]

I dont have a comp I just hop in LFG its basically whatever for me

[ebon hound]

I'd pay money for that. Maybe just enough for a burrito or two, but still, it's a good offer

[ionic fern]

I'll do it for free.

Nothing better than yelling at random people after a hard day at work.

[cinder storm]

Thats your issue imo @autumn ingot

[ebon hound]

😂

[light thicket]

I admire your bravery

Once i got guildies and fun people

[autumn ingot]

yeah nobody wants to run with me even my guildies just straight up ignoring me now

[jagged pier]

i pugged 17s/18s but i cba to put in the effort to go higher

[autumn ingot]

I think its just because of my playstyle

[hot oxide]

@ionic fern you stream? can you shoot me a link

[ionic fern]

No.

[light thicket]

When i think about pugging i get anxious just thinking about it

[ionic fern]

There are some streamers in #268491842637660160

[hot oxide]

i'll check them out

[light thicket]

I think Nom and sense stream

Right?

[autumn ingot]

pugging is not that bad tbh

[ionic fern]

Jeah, go check @strong forum wiping on Council.

[ebon hound]

Atleast he pushes buttons good

[light thicket]

Well that's rude

Accurate

But still rude

[ionic fern]

It'll get frustrating in higher keys where a missed kick = dead tank.

[plush tendon]

High keys arent fun though if you aint with the bois

[jagged pier]

high keys arent fun in general

[ionic fern]

They are. 😦

If you get a full premade.

[jagged pier]

but maybe that cause i dont have a group

[ionic fern]

Otherwise..no.

[plush tendon]

Ill pug all the 14-16s in the world

anything higher and the bat signal goes out

[autumn ingot]

for me its difficult to find a solid group because of my playstyle

thats why nobody wants to run with me so maybe if I can change up my legendary that would also change my playstyle so everyone can run with me no problem

[jagged pier]

no dps likes trying to dps when mobs are constantly moving

[ionic fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsdbNcmvLc&t=25s&ab_channel=Plkatv

Check this video out

[jagged pier]

because your leaping around

[ionic fern]

Shows how fast things can get messy.

😂

[solid cairn]

i have loot a 213 chest but i loose 80 versa for 80 mastery the second stat is critic

[autumn ingot]

Im feeling like I wanna skip this week I have already done my first 14 key for vault so I can just farm up my torg and get reprisal

[ionic fern]

Still your best video btw @patent osprey

[jagged pier]

if its high ilvl its and upgrade

[solid cairn]

Should i use the 213 over the 200 one if i have only 12.5% vers?$

[plush tendon]

At least hes with the lads!

[jagged pier]

you dont care about stats

until the items are the same ilvl

[autumn ingot]

the upgrade is gonna cost a lot too which is bad

[hot oxide]

HAHAHA i was watching this yesterday

the actuall stream

i was like wtf when I opened it. then the vulpera reminded me

[ionic fern]

Honestly if you're looking to learn then start logging keys or even better..recording them. 🙂
If people are willing to learn from their mistakes it won't take long to get better results. We just need to know what you're doing wrong and then we can work on fixing it.

[hot oxide]

gotta learn to take that constructive criticism

[ionic fern]

Never forgetti

[jagged pier]

☝️

[strong forum]

😄

[autumn ingot]

yeah I did some runs and recorded them haha

[hot oxide]

i was fury warr up until MoP

then i made the switch

[ionic fern]

Do you have them uploaded anywhere?

[light thicket]

Prot pally

Have you no shame?

[hot oxide]

how can Plka see with that ui? does he play on a huge 40inch?

still better than the damn DK's!

[ionic fern]

It was fun

https://streamable.com/q9bii

Quality times

[autumn ingot]

ill post my recent run here, it was close and had a bunch of wipes but still got the timer lol

I was actually running with the wall and bolster

[crisp dragon]

How do you all feel about the 60 days sub change?

[jagged pier]

?

[crisp dragon]

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/916749-changes-to-purchasable-game-time-options/

[jagged pier]

thats just a 2 months sub no?

[crisp dragon]

ye, but u cant buy 30 days anymore

[jagged pier]

oh meh

dont matter

[mighty valley]

stealth price increase since 60 and 90 used to be better deals overall

[jagged pier]

i get 6 months

cause free shit

and good price

🤷

[mental scarab]

^

[jagged pier]

and the best part when u get the free shit and use it you get salty whispers

[mighty valley]

oh hmm, this is unrelated to subs completely

so yeah, our six month subs are unaffected

hurray

[hot oxide]

hmmm

so i pay gold for my play time

me thinks its gonna cost more

[jagged pier]

youll just have to buy 2 tokens

or the toekn will be worth more money

hence more gold

wont change anything will still cost the same over 2 months

[hot oxide]

probably why they did it

tokens are like dirt freaking cheap

137k for 6 months

errrrr

1 month

[jagged pier]

so it will probs be 274k for 2 months

its literally the same price

well form what i would think anyway

[distant crystal]

i think you can still pop one token for 1 month

tokens already had a price hike built in

it's just for ppl that were buying game time a la carte, i think

[barren socket]

niya or korayn for raids?

[dark lark]

Niya

Korayn loses value in long fights

Ie any raid boss

[toxic prairie]

Anyone got a link for Plka s threat plates ? Also, just switched from prot pally to warrior, loving everything other then healing myself with bad healers

[lyric sonnet]

just made a prot warrior

is necrolord the wave?

[toxic prairie]

F that, venthyr baby!

[lyric sonnet]

venthyr def not the move

60% of the boss fight youre not doing shit with that

[toxic prairie]

You right, you right . But I pvp and fury Pve so@@@@

[lyric sonnet]

oh well im prot

[toxic prairie]

Well yea, I am also

[lyric sonnet]

venthyr bis for others definitely

condemn the wave for fury/arms

[uneven mason]

condemn's raw absorb isn't horrible ST and its cheaper than IP

also hits harder than Revenge

so its like a revenge + IP

at once.

for a discount

[lyric sonnet]

ya but like im going for raid surv right

[uneven mason]

The major drawback of condem nis its only available 40% of a fight

[lyric sonnet]

i see only kyrian and necrolord

being viable for that

[uneven mason]

wat

ok

I suppose a 12 - 20 % max HP buff is horrible

[lyric sonnet]

is that venth?

[short phoenix]

legs or boots for shield block lego?

[uneven mason]

thats Nightfae

Venthyr have a 10% DR under 40% health, or big mastery/big haste

Niya buffs your HP when you aftershock (and randomly from attacks)

but aftershock is basically an instant 12% heal

[toxic prairie]

Venthyr has that take 10 percent less damage under 40 percent though which helps

[uneven mason]

not everything, but not nothing either.

yeah Nadjia is the play for Venth still IMO

the 10% DR is nice

but, all that haste

on a reliable timer.

[lyric sonnet]

if your doing raid surv and not draven thats a troll for sure

[chilly brook]

Wat?

No

Lol

Draven is basically not that worth it

You shouldn't be under 40% to begin with

And what you're ignoring is that the huge haste buff from Nadjia is not only reliable and nice for damage BUT ITS ALSO GOOD FOR SURVIVABILITY

I guess condemn is shit for survivability too

Amirite

[green apex]

is it better to keep shield blocks up or spam ignore pain more trying to get my defensive cds down better cause been messing around with my warrior

[chilly brook]

Vs what damage

Can you block it?

[green apex]

just in general

reason im asking

[chilly brook]

In general if you can block it

You shield block over anything else

[green apex]

so like trash in m+

just keep shield block?

[mighty valley]

yes, while you're being punched, keep up shield block as much as possible,

[chilly brook]

Depends on the trash lol but if you can block it you block

[green apex]

yah like casters use ignore pain

[chilly brook]

Use IP as needed

Bit block is your main mitigation.

[gaunt crane]

I got bargast leash from a quest today, can that be good? probably not right 😄

[chilly brook]

Not very good no

[light thicket]

Also only while getting hit

[gaunt crane]

figured

[light thicket]

No use blocking when everything is stunned

[green apex]

alright i get it now i just getting bored of always on my dh

so i went warrior and trying to get it down again

[chilly brook]

Not much different than DH

[uneven mason]

"Pressing buttons matters"

[chilly brook]

You dont use spikes if it's not physical

[uneven mason]

"not really different than slapping your face into your keyboard and healing while being immune to damage"

[green apex]

XD

[chilly brook]

I mean in terms of actual use of mitigation

DH is literally prot slapped together with DK and some other stuff

[sour hill]

Be VDH: Forget to use mitigation, be super tanky anyway

[uneven mason]

Actually I kid, they do have to press buttons

its just that their button press is like 5 of ours at once

[chilly brook]

Be DH get nerfed because you were over performing due to a bug

[wanton condor]

Bonesmith is probably the straight up best for survival, as it gives you healers 10s to react and get a brez ready

[sour hill]

eh, they'll still be super strong

[vestal moat]

Not even sure if they are getting needed.

Nerfed

[chilly brook]

I mean losing 15% magic DR is huge

[vestal moat]

Yeah it would be if it actually happened. I’ll believe it when I see it

[wanton condor]

have they been nerfed?

[vestal moat]

No.

[wanton condor]

gonna say, if bliz is happy with their performance

I wouldn't expect the change

[green apex]

i mean they nerfed thunder clap hard in bfa

[chilly brook]

What does that say about everyone else's spec lol

[green apex]

when warriors were the go to tanks in m+

[patent osprey]

I was pinged!

what did i miss?1

[wanton condor]

like the WW and MM bugfixes were part of a larger tuning pass

[chilly brook]

We were still go to after the nerf to UF

[plush tendon]

We were watching some of your top tier content

[chilly brook]

Just simply because we could block basically everything

And we still did big dam

And it was just an actually genuinely fun and well designed spec....

[green apex]

yah right now i think pallys are the 2nd go too cause of their damage output right

[plush tendon]

Also, spell reflect was super powerful in BFA

[chilly brook]

Nah pally isn't

They're memes in keys

[plush tendon]

Guardian right now is the 2nd 'go-to'

the tankiest tanks out there

[surreal sinew]

been wondering, wouldn't banner allow two dps to potentially not remove stacks on sire? and is it worth it for mythic?

[plush tendon]

Phase 1 stacks? Doubt its worth to bring it just for that

[surreal sinew]

yeah

[patent osprey]

dude, that PF video i made, took me the longest! It wasn't the most viewed, but it is still my fav video to date.

I honestly learned to play PF really really well after making that vid haha

[plush tendon]

My favorite part is the plagueborer that gets behind and one shots you

at 1:24

[toxic prairie]

PLKA, can I get a link to your threat plates? Love em

[uneven mason]

they have to be in melee range, and paladins are basically made from wet cardboard

[toxic otter]

the only thing pally has to be in melee range to use is hammer of the righteous

[patent osprey]

Hey man! Sorry the plater profile was made by a friend that specifically asked me to not publicly share it cause they put alot of hours of work into it >.< I had it shared before... and they yelled at me T_T

[toxic otter]

and you can get aroudn that with blessed hammer

other than that you have better range to do damage than any other tank

J/AS/HoW are all 30 yds, SotR is extended via bulwark legendary

[toxic prairie]

Hey no problem, tell them they did a great job!

[languid flower]

So mastery really only gets good at unattainable levels of master, doesn't it?

like it starts crap, and gradually gets better, but we can't make it to where it's good

40% mastery gives 40% critical block chance.

We'd have to be at 70+ before it's reliable enough for bossfights

big groups it's basically a strait reduction in melee damage because that's how probabilities work, but even then it's only 30% (DR) of the 40% (chance), since we were already blocking 30% of the damage.

dammit, I miss legion

[plush tendon]

uhhh sure?

[languid flower]

also, why'd you take my reforgers? I've got 25% mastery to reforge...

[chilly brook]

No?

Mastery is good regardless?

[plush tendon]

Bigger question, my friend was able to Tmog Stromgar as his weapon while in prot, so hes wielding a 2h even though hes prot

How does one accomplish this

[chilly brook]

Mastery is good in general, none of our stats are a "only worth it at a certain breakpoint" stats

It worked literally the same way in Legion

[languid flower]

You got more crit block% chance in legion

[chilly brook]

The only difference is you had one CD that could force crit blocks

[languid flower]

I think more per mastery

[chilly brook]

I'm gonna go with a nope

[languid flower]

My memory is faulty, but I thought I had a 70% crit block chance in legion

[chilly brook]

And even if it did Legion warrior isn't anything like BFA or SL

That sounds very faulty

[toxic otter]

critical block is not a 30% DR over regular block, it is a 50% DR

uh math wrong

[chilly brook]

Up to*

[toxic otter]

but idea right

[sweet summit]

crit block is blocks twice the normal block amount

[chilly brook]

^

[sweet summit]

up to 85% dr?

[toxic otter]

if you block 30%

[sweet summit]

i think?

[chilly brook]

Yea

[languid flower]

normal blocks are ~30%, ya?

[sweet summit]

depends

[languid flower]

so crit blocks are ~60%, ya?

[sweet summit]

with a 220 shield in a mythic dungeon its roughly 30% dr

[toxic otter]

if a normal block is ~30%, then you take 57% of the damage of a blocked hit when you crit block

e.g. comparing during shield block

[languid flower]

wait wait wait, it COMPOUNDS

[toxic otter]

all DR works like that

[chilly brook]

so for m+ assuming 226 is 1628 block, your default block DR % is 40%

[toxic otter]

it gets relatively stronger the more of it you have

[distant crystal]

seems like it'd be way better used for dps in p2?

[toxic otter]

this is most obvious if you compare going from 99 to 100% damage reduction vs 0% to 1%

adding DR is huge

multiplying DR is not

[languid flower]

but block and crit block are treated differently?

I would have guessed a crit block just doubled the block number

[toxic otter]

it does

which is an additive effect over regular block

[chilly brook]

If you would regularly block 40% it bumps to 80%

[languid flower]

so then where'd the 57% come from? why not 60?

[toxic otter]

because I was comparing being at 70% dmg taken to 40% dmg taken1

in something like shield block

[languid flower]

oh oh oh,

okay, so crit block does stack (not compound) with regular block

[sweet summit]

#protection message

[languid flower]

but if you look at damage remaining, you are reducing that by more than 30%

[chilly brook]

??

[toxic otter]

yes

[chilly brook]

This is super simple

You're making it way too complex

You block

You then roll for crit block

[languid flower]

I'm hit for 100 damage unblocked

[chilly brook]

If you crit block you block double the % youd normally

[languid flower]

if I block, that's now 70 damage

if I crit, it's 40 damage

[chilly brook]

Yes

Up to a maximum of 85% dr

[languid flower]

what ~~griff ~~ @toxic otter was saying is that 40/70 = 57%. I only take 57% of the damage that was left after I had already blocked

[chilly brook]

That's not what I said?

[sweet summit]

????????

[chilly brook]

At all

[toxic otter]

that was me

[languid flower]

oh sorry

fixed

that said, I don't usually take a "damage remaining" perspective on things

[sweet summit]

idk whats going on

but

[chilly brook]

Theres no damage remaining perspective?

Mastery is good

[sweet summit]

lets say block is 30% dr

[chilly brook]

Leave it at that

[toxic otter]

whether or not it makes sense to do so depends on whether or not you have high chance to block

[languid flower]

I'm trying to figure out why mastery isn't the most important stat now that we have reprisal

[chilly brook]

Wrong

[sweet summit]

a crit block is then twice that, which is 60%

[chilly brook]

We guarentee blocks

Our block chance is irrelevant

[sweet summit]

because mastery is rng, just like crit

vers is constant

[toxic otter]

that's my point - the baseline to compare to is not the unmitigated hit, it's the blocked hit

so a crit block is not a 30% DR gain

it's a 43% DR gain

[sweet summit]

and haste is more rage/cdr on everything

[chilly brook]

[chilly brook]

Bro you're making this way more complex than it needs to be lol

[languid flower]

but if you tank a group of 6, the probabilities even out (because you're taking so many hits). the more enemies you face, the closer to a true DR it becomes

[elfin nova]

that is absolutely how you should compare dr though

you can't say 'it's 30%!'

it's so inaccurate

[chilly brook]

Its double the dr of block

That's not inaccurate

[sweet summit]

never said 'it's 30%!'

[elfin nova]

well then what's the problem

[sweet summit]

not sure

[elfin nova]

magnus did seem to suggest he didn't want to look at it like that

[chilly brook]

Magnus also overanalyzes the answers

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin nova]

it's the same thing as vers getting better defensively the more you have of it and whatever else like that

[chilly brook]

Nothing against him

[elfin nova]

it matters how much dr you had from the same effect already

[chilly brook]

But it's really as simple as it sounds

And partially part of why we don't stack it very hard is because you already have access to big mastery procs btw

[languid flower]

It's a perspective thing. You can look at it like this:

1. 100 damage hit, 70 damage blocked hit, 40 damage crit blocked hit. saves 30 damage from being taken.
2. block reduces by 30%, crit block reduces an additional 42% (compounded)
3. block reduces by 30%, crit block reduces an additional 30%(stacked)

[elfin nova]

it's not a perspective thing

[sweet summit]

wait what

[languid flower]

what do you mean bigger mastery procs, @chilly brook ?

[sweet summit]

pelagos/niya conduits

[elfin nova]

math doesn't have perspectives

[languid flower]

math does have perspectives

[sly summit]

Hi there, why is demoralizing shout 30 second cd for me instead of 45?

[sweet summit]

pvp talent

[languid flower]

that's why we can solve problems by different approaches, all equally correct.

[lofty widget]

Those approaches should conclude the same tho, which it doesnt look like to me (i am also bad at math)

[languid flower]

it doesn't matter whether you take the derivative of your displacement or the integral of your acceleration, you get velocity all the same.

Yes, all of these approaches reach the same result

because I critically block, I took 30 less damage

what you compare that to is what determines the % DR, and I'm trying to clarify that @toxic otter is comparing it to something different than @chilly brook

[autumn ingot]

alright you guys here is my recent run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbZ8rQaeFHQ

[blazing condor]

i like the title

[autumn ingot]

let me know what needs to be fix lmao

[languid flower]

What did you mean by "big mastery procs"? I'm not aware of a way to pump our mastery up.

[sweet summit]

pelagos/niya conduits

[chilly brook]

Erga already said, pepegos and niya

[hot oxide]

well, off the top of my head...stop charging through green goo!

[blazing condor]

@autumn ingot i can see directly on the first boss that you shouldve charged in instead of running in and probably ravaged on pull

what happened is that you jumped in and TCd which isnt enough to hold aggro

[chilly brook]

I need lunch before I go workout what do I get? Chipotle?

[autumn ingot]

oh okay

[blazing condor]

youre also only 204 ilvl which is gonna be a factor as well

[amber herald]

don't use the third kyrian soulbind it's bad for tanks because of all the knockbacks

[autumn ingot]

I didnt know the mechanics so I was just doing whatever lol

[blazing condor]

as well as having low haste

[hot oxide]

THIS! I used to think that was like the auto OMG tons of threat, but it isn't...

[blazing condor]

Ravager > charge > revenge > tc usually does the trick

[autumn ingot]

so more haste okay

[hot oxide]

isn't it charge>ravage>revenge?

[blazing condor]

i usually toss ravager before charging

just to get one global of it in

[lofty widget]

Pre ravage saves a global

[hot oxide]

makes sense

[autumn ingot]

so ravager charge then revenge tc

[blazing condor]

also @autumn ingot from seeing how you entered the first pack after 1st boss you should revenge more often

as well as pre-ravaging

its fine to kyrian spear in the beginning for it

[autumn ingot]

yeah I keep pressing 7 which is my bind for whirlwind but I was actually trying to press 6 which is the revenge binding

[blazing condor]

ah

[autumn ingot]

I have the conduits for revenge and tc

[blazing condor]

also you never really need to use Hamstring like, at all

[autumn ingot]

Idk why I still keep my whirlwind it shouldnt be in there lol

[mighty valley]

yeah take that off, literally no use

[hot oxide]

i wondered why his hamstring was on there

[timber lagoon]

I use it in spiteful weeks

[autumn ingot]

haha I keep it for extra heal

[timber lagoon]

But that's it

[mighty valley]

if you're accidentally hitting other buttons a lot, might be worth finding some alternate keybinds it's easier to hit

[timber lagoon]

Extra, heal?

[hot oxide]

need to charge more also, walking into mobs leaves you down a bit

[autumn ingot]

yeah I probably should change my keybinds a bit

[hot oxide]

do you have your spear and ravage on keybind at cursor?

[mighty valley]

is that a stam flask? better off with power

[hot oxide]

if not, get that done

[ionic fern]

1. Charge into packs.
   2)Use Ravager/Spear on CD
   3)You are overlaping SW/SB a lot..you are on full health and you're popping both of them (check 4:50)
   4)You're rage capping - use IP to prevent this as it's not on GCD.
   5)Why are you randomly using SR?

ANd this is from the first 5 minutes of the video.

[autumn ingot]

yeah indomitable heals you for every 10 rage

[ionic fern]

👀

[amber herald]

why no dbm or bigwigs?

[blazing condor]

@autumn ingot last thing im gonna say cus i g2g but also trying to plan ahead is a good thing. When you kill the pride at 6:45 you use both ravager and spear of bastion - something that could be useful for the AOE burst in the next pack

[hot oxide]

he had no idea about packs

so that's understandable

[timber lagoon]

[autumn ingot]

oh okay, yeah will do thanks goodstuffe

man I should really be listing all of this down huh

[timber lagoon]

@autumn ingot gotta say good on you for posting a video and asking for feedback

[languid flower]

oh damn, niya's mastery does factor in to the +, which means it hits DR

[blazing condor]

yeah its more of an experience thing tbh

[mighty valley]

i'm noticing shield slam is available a lot, that should be higher priority for you, especially if you're still running The Wall

[hot oxide]

at 6:10 when the boss charged away, if you are fast enough you could of intervened and got a free revenge

o, he doesn't have reprisal

never mind what i said then

[autumn ingot]

yeah I mean I will do everything to get better lol I just wanna get my upgrade

[hot oxide]

heroic throw at 6:25? just to add dps?

[autumn ingot]

what is SR again?

[remote tusk]

That's very minor.

Spell Reflection

[ionic fern]

Don't laugh at the sick Heroic Throw damage

Gotta take what you can get when out of range.

😂

[autumn ingot]

oh haha

[hot oxide]

lol

[autumn ingot]

I dont actually know where to use my spell reflection so I kinda just press it

[ionic fern]

Vs magic damage.

[hot oxide]

when you see a enemy cast

[ionic fern]

Check the pins here.

https://tinyurl.com/ReflectGuide

[timber lagoon]

Reaping scythe on last boss

[ionic fern]

Here are boss abilities

[remote tusk]

There is a spreadsheet and a weakaura that can tell you which spells or abilities you can reflect.

[hot oxide]

OOOO, when doing DoS you can spell reflect Muezhuellas fist thingy

[timber lagoon]

Big damage

[autumn ingot]

so its kinda like the opposite of the pummel

[remote tusk]

Reaping Scythe on the last boss is huge.

[ionic fern]

And in general targeted abilities that are casted on you can also be reflected.

[remote tusk]

No, since not all are interruptable.

[autumn ingot]

oh right, so you only use sr if the cast was on red

[hot oxide]

can i get that weakaura for the SR