that was just the "i've had enough" moment
#protection
sick sentinel
solemn sage
Have that moment about 8 times a week haha
olive merlin
any NF prot was here wishing they went Kyrian?
marsh aurora
how do you guys deal with orbs soaking on spires 3rd boss ?
fading quiver
get a mage or hunter to immune it
marsh aurora
there's no way a war soaks it all right ?
fading quiver
dont think so
cant even spell reflect one of them
I mean, you can try to with shield wall and everything blown
but all my groups just use a mage/hunter
if you dont have one then people take what they can
fading quiver
on that boss its better to use SR on the stomp
floral pewter
there's no way a war soaks it all right ?
in pugs I often soak most or all of them, then pop shield wall and hope the healer is on the ball
ideally you have someone with an immunity do it, or split it up among the party
mighty valley
I can't think of a time I've done it without someone having an immunity
guess i'm lucky
spring umbra
oof.... just ate a top because the orbs bugged out
never seen it bug like that before... was literally on a loop between the 1st/2nd platforms
mighty valley
bouncing between portals? damn haven't seen that
spring umbra
yea i normally go right / left and it finally fixed it after we switched to the opposite
bleak chasm
Incredibly lame question, but should I gear up a prot warrior or bdk if I want to do some double dps arenas with an offspec on the side?
prisma bear
probably dk because warrior badly needs a healer
if you can get a healer then warrior is much better than dk
bleak chasm
Yeah kinda what I figured. Just figured I'd get some opinions. Ultimately I'll level and gear both, tbh.
Is prot slapping in keys now with the new leggo?
timber ledge
Ever a time to go Wall over Reprisal in M+?
sturdy sable
Maybe DoS
timber ledge
What about SoA?
unique shale
What about SoA?
just use whatever you feel comfortable
there is no must that you have to use wall or Reprisal in m+ or raid
hexed rune
Is there a vod of someone using reprisal in a key or raid? I feel like it's just not clicking with me. Wall with bolster feels easier still
unique shale
According to legends they are using Reprisal in mythic sludge
noble nacelle
Does attack power have any defensive benefits
sturdy sable
You can charge every slam for sludge so why not
Or stop or what ever his circle around him is called
unique shale
Does attack power have any defensive benefits
how come ?
noble nacelle
I'm debating switching my prot warrior to orc from maghar.
Trying to weigh out blood fury vs ancestral call
unique shale
I'm debating switching my prot warrior to orc from maghar.
maghar ?
noble nacelle
Yeah brown orc allied race
unique shale
i mean it worth going from maghar to vulpera if you ask me
noble nacelle
Idk stacking blood fury with conq banner plus lead by example is insane attack power buff
hazy sparrow
racials are worthless
unique shale
but pressing ip is not worth it
all time
too much rage and only good for magic or out of sb
unique shale
still not worth it
cinder nova
Would you consider it problematic that I'm topping damage during the opener in M SK?
noble nacelle
How so? I'm generating rage faster than I can spend it with revenge
unique shale
then revenge more
waxen cradle
I find myself pressing IP when I am going to cap rage, more specifically on AoE pulls where sometimes depening on what talents I am running, and if I am in raid, or M+. Now all this bares in mind if pressing revenge will mean I get shit on because I like damage ๐
noble nacelle
I'm gonna press shield slam over revenge
waxen cradle
Like I said it really depends on the size of the pull, and if I will get shit on and what not. "Normally" I only find myself hitting IP in big ass AoE pulls in raid where people derp pulled and 100 casts may get off and shit all over me
unique shale
more then 2 targets still worth doing revenge then SS
unique shale
in big pulls if you have SB up it does nothing to you
hazy sparrow
with repirsal we run double time yeh?
cinder nova
Yes.
waxen cradle
On a boss encounter obviously, I meant on trash pulls in M+
unique shale
still same
hazy sparrow
bueno
waxen cradle
Or when clearing to bosses in CN Mythic, when people are stupid because trash does not matter so fuck it lets waste people's time mentality's happen
noble nacelle
Is critical block chance multiplicative or additive
unique shale
crit and mastery are not good defensive stats cause it is base on RNG so haste/versa is always best
prisma bear
ilvl is more important that stat specifics
unique shale
noble nacelle
Yes but from a mechanics perspective
waxen cradle
Ultimately yes I try and forgo using IP unless there are scenarios where not using it will cause me to die. Unfortunately I have to pug keys a lot so counting on pugged key players to not miss interrupts is not always realistic, and god forbid I not do all of the interrupts because that is realistic
cinder nova
That's not a tank issue. If your DPS are pulling shit you'rebetter off resetting than trying to fix it mid pull
Min-maxing a fuck-up is a waste of time
waxen cradle
True enough
noble nacelle
If I get hit by an attack is it X% to be blocked or Y% to critical block.
Or is it a X% to block and then a Y% for that block to be a critical block
unique shale
Yes but from a mechanics perspective
from mechanics perspective ilvl is more important and haste give you more rage and uptime on SB and versa damage increase and reduction.
noble nacelle
That's not what I'm asking
waxen cradle
Block is on its on roll, I do not remember is Crit Block rolls first or second if I remember right its second ?
unique shale
but you are talking about critical block
waxen cradle
I really dont remember if Crit Block and normal block roll together or not
Thought it was seperate
unique shale
cirt gives Perry
noble nacelle
Yes we know
waxen cradle
@noble nacelle Ok what are you asking exactly
hazy sparrow
hey while running repirsal or the wall, what do you run usaully for your 45 talent?
waxen cradle
Sorry between my conversation and yours we went off the rails trying to get us on the same page
noble nacelle
Is critical block its own roll or is it dependent on block chance
unique shale
own roll
unique shale
hey while running repirsal or the wall, what do you run usaully for your 45 tale...
always ravager
for m+
waxen cradle
Yeah I knew it was its on roll, all I did not remember is if it rolls first or second when crit block is granted
If I remember right crit block rolls second after block
noble nacelle
So then it's dependant on block?
waxen cradle
As crit block is obviously a chance and SBlock itself is so easy to keep up especially with reprisal now.
cinder nova
Any deliberate effort to try and maximize crit block outside of Legion is like omega-kek levels of misplaced focus.
waxen cradle
Yeah agreed
noble nacelle
Okay that's what I was asking. I'd I have a 30% chance to block and 20% to crit block I have a 6% chance to critical block an attack in reality
cinder nova
Except you don't because you should be blocking every attack with Shield Block.
I can assure you that devoting any amount of mental throughput on the probability is a literal waste of your time.
And you will see zero gains from it.
It's not clinically useful information.
noble nacelle
No I know. I just like to know how the game actually calculates what is happening for my information
torn stump
its just a dependent probability event
given that a block DOES happen, theres a chance to critically block
waxen cradle
Especially since the only way to get a increased flat block % increase to block outside of SB is through shields. So its why we try and get the highest item level shield we can. Now all this being said was made less relevant with the Reprisal leggo
unique shale
why block it when you can Perry it
noble nacelle
given that a block DOES happen, theres a chance to critically block
Thanks this is exactly what I was asking
waxen cradle
Because we get free extra SB time so wasted a lot of time trying to worry about that whole idea is pointless
noble nacelle
But in theory mastery is then more valuable when shield block is up. Because more blocks will happen which by extension means more critical blocks will happen
unique shale
torn stump
the only number that matters where prot mastery concerned is the chance to critically block
waxen cradle
A nice buff for us as tanks would be for enemies up to a certain X number, take damage when they they hit our shield. One can dream I guess
cinder nova
It's not.
torn stump
because when you use shield block
cinder nova
Mastery is our lowest priority stat.
torn stump
you 100% block
cinder nova
You are 1000x overthinking this.
What you're doing is trying to game a slot machine.
waxen cradle
@noble nacelle Mastery for us is absolute the last stat you want. To be fair even crit beats it in terms of value as crit factors into more damage, and healing.
noble nacelle
Im not trying to break the meta or anything I'm just trying to get the deepest understanding of how mastery works
signal plover
Gotta love NA night chat
noble nacelle
And yes in know I'm like 600 haste 450 vers 350 crit 198 mast on my warrior
torn stump
your regular block chance from mastery is largely irrelevant because you gain 100% block chance from active mitigation (shield block)
cinder nova
^^^^^^^^^
torn stump
so even in a hypothetical world where mastery was our best stat
unique shale
i feel nothing with SB up in big pulls or small
torn stump
the only number that would matter on our mastery is the crit block chance
cinder nova
Like, have all the curiosity about the numbers as you want, but none of it is informative information that'll change how you play.
Which is the point we're trying to make.
Chasing this is fruitless.
unique shale
so why have stronger SB while you feel nothing when SB is up
waxen cradle
@noble nacelle Long story short if doing M+, Haste/Crit=Vers, If doing raid Haste/Vers/Crit
noble nacelle
I'm not asking about stat weights at all
torn stump
double edit big fail
unique shale
lol
waxen cradle
Sucks when you can't get a damn 226 chest with Haste/Crit because rng hates you
trust me feelsbadman
unique shale
feels bad when you cannot get your bis trinkets from start of exp
noble nacelle
I got a 226 weapon crit/mast this week and was happysad
waxen cradle
^^^ Yeah that feels worse
Still no Scale from rng loot box me for >.<!!!! rrrrreeeee!!!!
unique shale
i still have darkmoon tricket XD
noble nacelle
Im just gonna spam DoS next week and get a 210 and upgrade it
waxen cradle
true is a option, but even then your still rng's bitch
maybe less
but you still are
noble nacelle
Yeah but as long as I don't cap valor the. I dont feel so bad
Because then I can use that valor for other pieces that are not 220
waxen cradle
I still say Blizzard is a bit over obsessed with rng controlling loot. I get it of course as how else will they slow down how fast we gear
Truly a brilliant idea, whole loot slot machine
Creating a gambling obsession in WoW ๐ genius
noble nacelle
There should be a broker at the start of each M+ that you can talk to and pick a slot and then the loot rolls will be weighted to that slot
wanton condor
the trick is to get a group who wants the cube and has a tank loot spec
so hpal, uhdk
wanton condor
maybe two more uhdk
noble nacelle
So if I'm going for scale I can be like oh I'm interested in trinkets this run. And then you have a higher chance to get trinkets in your loot roll. Could be isq could be scale
waxen cradle
@unique shale nice post
cinder nova
so how much % is 400 mastery ?
An irrelevant amount.
torn stump
noble nacelle
so how much % is 400 mastery ?
I think it's like 30% or something.
hazy sparrow
oh damn every class has a diffrent value
waxen cradle
How intelligent is pissing up a wet rope ? Answer that question, and then apply your finding to your mastery question
They are equal in value, and intelligence concerning each other
noble nacelle
Yes everyone gets different % from mastery rating
unique shale
noble nacelle
oh damn every class has a diffrent value
There's a mastery spreadsheet for banner if you are neceolord that shows who gains the most value from the buff
unique shale
anyone wanna look at my log and give me feed back ?
torn gust
first time doing a timed NW 15, felt good and easy with the reprisal leggo.
waxen cradle
When I think about going Necro I ask these questions, will I ever be in a scenario outside of raid where its relevant ? How much of a defensive/control/and damage boost do I lose swapping from Kyrian/NFae ? And can I, and am I willing to give up my Phial, and steward homie. 2 out of 3 of those are for me ALWAYS hard nopes not happening and not giving up. I go with the whole 2/3rds majority when that happens and a hard fuck that
unique shale
which neck do you go big haste /mastery or big cir/versa
noble nacelle
Vers/haste pvp neck
unique shale
well not everybody can pvp
waxen cradle
I like the crit vers because I feel like a tard getting the mastery, but the haste is nice. I do not pvp because I never dps so I am stuck with Haste/Mastery or Crit/Vers
noble nacelle
I'd probably go whatever balances with my rings well
If I have a lot of haste on rings then crit/vers neck
waxen cradle
I run Azure Venom Choker right now, if I can get a high vers lower crit neck I will be happy but I cannot right now
Besides if I was going to go for a higher vers neck anyway I would just pvp. But again I dont dps so I am stuck
noble nacelle
I'm at 1687 right now so I'm close to 220 neck soon
waxen cradle
However if I can get rng luck through rings and get good a good Vers/Crit ring I "might" gun for the Haste/Mastery neck
noble nacelle
When I think about going Necro I ask these questions, will I ever be in a scenar...
I think flesh craft is severely under rated right now.
waxen cradle
@noble nacelle It is a small amount but a find in M+ its value is inferior to Kyrian/Fae
noble nacelle
This week especially I noticed how strong it is when I have lien 60+ necrotic stacks and the pack is almost dead and I just gotta live a little longer
unique shale
survive whole sire phase 1 with only condemn
waxen cradle
True but I am DiD, and Kyrian, so unless I am literally paying no attention at all or not running from mobs at all at high stacks I never get that many stacks
noble nacelle
Yeah but it makes you feel poggers for survival with that many stacks
Shockwave leap doesn't always works for inspire week
Especially in pug society
waxen cradle
True but then you run a hunter, a mage, druid, hell near anything, and you should have a ton of time
noble nacelle
That's a waste of dps
unique shale
i mean i never trust pug
noble nacelle
Just live
Tank the inspire with
Live long enough for your dps to nuke the pack down
unique shale
i had hunters who couldn't use traps or aggro buff
noble nacelle
Yeah having challenging shout was nice when I did my 14 halls this morning.
I ran with a fire mage who was 226
unique shale
if you are pugging with expatiation that people kick and slow you might be surprise that they don't
noble nacelle
He would combust and there was no hope for my 195 ass to keep aggro
unique shale
i barely having problem to hold aggro for fire mage unless they use all of their cds at opener which it become shit show without challenging shout
hazy sparrow
uh and fire take a shit on agro
waxen cradle
I swear I love when dps pull bosses for you in keys. The evil side in me says let them die
and then taunt
taking aggro from bursting hard is one thing, pulling bosses before me... oh man all the evil in me comes out
hot oxide
lol
cinder nova
Am I insane for expecting more than 2.8K DPS from a Destro lock on M SK?
distant crystal
tbh looking at overall dmg on M SK is kinda insane in general
dmg to shields all that matters bb
otoh 2.8K sounds like he might be alt tabbed half the fight
cinder nova
What if I told you he only did 137K on Shade
And as a tank, I did 166K
And the other destro lock did 285K to Shade
tame jasper
if you are pugging with expatiation that people kick and slow you might be surpr...
Exactly my experience
cinder nova
And on our first kill of M HD he did 2.2K DPS for a total of less than 1M
distant crystal
ime in pugs the problem isn't people not kicking
it's everybody kicking the first cast
cinder nova
Lol... our hunter died just shy of 4 minutes into the fight.
And did more damage than him when he died a whole minute after
I can't even...
Pretty sure this is a him thing, not an unreasonable expectation.
chilly brook
@cinder nova just sounds like a not great player
cinder nova
I raised a concern about general lack of high output in our DPS' lower half and he was the first to jump to the defense.
In dead last.
I can only imagine he's trying to keep himself in a raid spot.
Tired of watching him pull shit numbers.
unique shale
i got [Macabre Sheet Music] is it good ?
unique shale
no 213 for tanking replacing my darkmoon trinket
cinder nova
I mean, yeah - get rid of your darkmoon trinket, but I'd also get red of sheet music asap because it's not always viable to go collecting images on every fight.
A PVP trinket would be better tbh
unique shale
i have no bis trinket tho so i am holding on what i have
cinder nova
I figured, but I'd definitely find a way to offload sheet music. It's not terrible, but the need to go scavenging the spirits can sometimes be a cunt and a half during some bosses.
Or just a non-option at times.
unique shale
bright side is 8 more str and same effect haste
cinder nova
You wont get any haste without collecting the dance partners iirc
unique shale
i know but is it kyrain you have to collect orbs for mastery ?
cinder nova
You don't collect orbs for mastery, no.
Orbs extend the duration.
And they have gigantic hitboxes.
Not quite the same.
unique shale
nobody collect orbs lol i think i am weirdo here
cinder nova
People collect orbs where possible, yes.
Moving for orbs is less invasive than moving for dance partners.
unique shale
i am venthyr so i have to dance any way 
lusty marsh
wooo 3M down
unique shale
i went kyrain for fun but those orbs were annoying
distant crystal
clapping your friends with belligerent boast cause you were picking up orbs for like 2sec more mastery buff
hot oxide
lol
hot oxide
what ever happened to our shield enchants?
cinder nova
Died in Cata.
I'd suck toes for a shield spike.
But at this point the only people that'd use it are Warriors and Paladins, and they're not gonna make an item only for 2 classes.
fiery narwhal
Maybe shamans in pvp? Sharpening stones came back so spikes would be neat for the tank version
cinder nova
I wouldn't hold your breath, you might hurt yourself.
night wadi
Does Safeguard conduit reduce damage taken on your ally target or yourself?
cinder nova
Target.
night wadi
ty
cinder nova
Literally says it in the tooltip.
Intervene reduces damage taken by the** target **by 8%.
night wadi
xd
urban portal
I'm fairly sure the threat is multiplied 5x for prot in general
Doesn't make sense for condemn to generate less than execute
That being said leave enough rage to cast ip and block
frail wyvern
In raid/ST you want to keep SB up and dump leftover rage into condemn. Not worth much in AoE situations though
chilly brook
is it ok to spam condemn as venthyr?
Yes that's fine, all extra rage should go into condemn in single target
All the condemn casts
night wadi
thank you
arctic bridge
Just about to start gearing up my prot warrior. Currently Venthyr but I won't be doing any progress raiding on it so I'm going to change, torn between Necrolord or Kyrian...
half sapphire
If u are thinking about pvp, I'd say kyrian. But it sounds like you are going to be doing a lot of un-corrdinated content if there is no progress raiding or M+. If I were you I'd consider kyrian vs. night fae
frail wyvern
Do you play other specs too? Pvp and keys?
arctic bridge
I will mostly be doing M+ with guildies on this Char up to level 15/16 but not high, probably reclearing HC on it as well
strong forum
Then don't play necro
Necro is only for pushing literal World first content and even then there are arguments against it
arctic bridge
ok, thanks. That spear on a 1 min CD does look fun.
half sapphire
NGL, fae-quake is one of the most satisfying moves to use in M+, but I have never tried kyrian so I am biased
frail wyvern
If I move my warrior from venthyr I would probably go NF
arctic bridge
I just don't think I can bring myself to be a big prot meat shield fairy warrior
frail wyvern
I didn't want to be a self-righteous angel boy ๐
arctic bridge
I didn't want to be a self-righteous angel boy ๐
๐ that's why i started off Venthyr
unique shale
venthyr is beest don't let me start on it
arctic bridge
not for what i wanna do i don't think it is
half sapphire
I mean looking past asthetic choice, I can tell you that theatre of pain will never be an issue again. The fae-quake can handle all those spell casters, their casts are so slow it interupts them for 15 seconds. Same goes for quite a few packs in SoA. I just can't imagine not having it due to picking kyrian and being a kitey boi
unique shale
not for what i wanna do i don't think it is
what are you ganna do ?
arctic bridge
what are you ganna do ?
Mostly m+, just gearing it up as an alt
unique shale
still no problem doing m+ with venthyr
frail wyvern
It's not the best covenant for m+ though as prot
unique shale
haste and door is best tools for kiting and dps
frail wyvern
I love venthyr, the condemn playstyle but I wouldn't recommend it for somebody wanting an easy time on an alt
unique shale
world first port was a venthyr 
steep horizon
Fuck it bro go night fae it's fun af
unique shale
i mean for fun i would go necro tho
arctic bridge
I mained prot all of BFA so I am comfortable on it but I want more of an aoe toolkit
is ravager preferred over UF now?
half sapphire
UF is ded last time i checked
arctic bridge
UF is ded last time i checked
RIP!
half sapphire
But it's okay we got devestator back, and ravager with booming voice deals tons of dmg
steep horizon
Mmmm devastator...
frail wyvern
If you even run booming voice with reprisal changes
half sapphire
I prob shud be running reprisal, but I like spammy shield walls
steep horizon
So prot warrior being treated like the god it is?
arctic bridge
i will be crafting reprisal, it seems really fun
steep horizon
People recognition!
frail wyvern
I crafted reprisal but I do very few keys on my warrior
ebon hound
With Reprisal you can run AM, which still results in spammy Shield Walls
frail wyvern
You gotta intervene and charge a lot otherwise its basically worth nothing. Dunno if I enjoy doing that as much as traditional face tanking ๐
half sapphire
in raids I will do stuff like that to min-max rage gain, but it kinda feels awkward to use charge and then get shield block while not tanking. It def looks like a M+ lego
unless I want to fuck with boss positioning for 8 sec of shield block
:monkaHmm:
frail wyvern
I mean some fights you can game 4s of SB from it, but at that point you lose a gcd or 2 of dps prior to taunt swap so probably not worth
half sapphire
besides most bossses don't require you to have 70+% shield block time, unless you want to try and solo tank sludgefist i guess
or SLG
arctic bridge
am I'm right in thinking that whirlwind is useless for prot? and that revenge will be better in any situation
arctic bridge
i'm not even gonna have it on my bar
strong forum
Yes
amber herald
what's better for pure dmg phial of putr or anime orb?
crisp dragon
Anime orb? Do you mean Spires trink? Obviously Phial
amber herald
I thought so but I didn't know how to sim it because phials a dps trinket
crisp dragon
If it wasn't better DPS, Field emitter would be so good
strong forum
Phial is big pump
remote dawn
phial or Slg?
jagged pier
why not both?
remote dawn
scale is so good ๐
lime urchin
I think I want to marry mah scale.
But
It also makes plebs like me get away with stuff I shouldnโt get away with.
lime urchin
Well thatโs because you ainโt a pleb like me
sick sentinel
Im currently venthyr. I tank, and also fury for m+. I tank and dps Heroic CN. Out of NF and kyrian what should i consider that could be better? Soulbinds and whatnot?
lime urchin
Unless you are pushing the limits all are fine. I prefer spear and phial from kyrian for m+ while others prefer NF and itโs AA and pumping numbers.
I suppose if you play dps often too, NF would be a bit stronger damage wise.
sick sentinel
Ok cool. And while im still venthyr is draven the pick? Or is it just up to me and not matter much.
surreal sinew
draven for dmg reduction, nadja for pumping, i'd say
sick sentinel
Ok. I think ill stay draven while trying to get KSM.
sick sentinel
Did you pick the 3% damage increase?
surreal sinew
consumable buff seemed more regular but i tried the 3% increase too (lot of logs with it)
sick sentinel
Ok cool
surreal sinew
for pure dmg and parsing that really wasn't the biggest difference
playing like an arse and spamming condemn did the job
wanton harness
Hey guys im a new prot warrior and standard pleb. On Gorechop in ToP do i need to actively keep threat on adds or do they just jump around either way?
strong forum
They jump around all the time, but you want aggro on them
surreal sinew
shockwave and stormbolt on them helps alot
wicked spindle
Im seeing a couple of warriors are starting to run Into the Fray for M+ now, any reason for that??
strong forum
Low ilvl, also prolly just logging out in raid spec
strong forum
Na, I'm also only rocking 220
fresh belfry
best thing is when a healer gets an offhand that's not needed but cant trade because he only has a 2h weapon
frail wyvern
I had that
fresh belfry
i had that multiple times now
frail wyvern
Luckily got the token in my vault the next week though
elfin ginkgo
I am currently using Afenar warrior WA, but for prot i dont like it very much. What weakaura set, or weakauras do you guys use to make your life easier?
surreal sinew
i use luxthos's pack
tepid nest
i use afenar for my main (spriest) and have been trying to use it for prot but, i dont like it
it's really hard to see your defensive info, shield block duration and ignore pain value
surreal sinew
but it's quite a bit of clutter in the center of the screen
elfin ginkgo
yeah i agree
im very new to tanking so im not super sure what information i need readily available
i need a clear Shield block wa and a good ignore pain wa i guess
surreal sinew
i'd suggest you browse the prot warrior's you stream (there are some in the pins) and see if you can get any inspiration out of their uis
elfin ginkgo
aight ill do that
strong forum
I like mine ๐
surreal sinew
well i'll follow and maybe i get lucky ๐
elfin ginkgo
@strong forum how do you track ignore pain and shield block?
Does any1 know what @light mason uses for his healers' cooldowns?
strong forum
IP is a small number above my HP
Shieldblock has a different WA pack, I have that uploaded aswell
unique shale
IP is a small number above my HP
can you look at my log and give me some feedback?
elfin ginkgo
Thanks bruv
strong forum
I'm at work rn so not extensively
unique shale
ok np
strong forum
Just throw it in here, im sure some people can give some tips
tawny pier
Is there any standout conquest gear for prot?
unique shale
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mNFX938cry6TgYa4/#fight=23&type=damage-done
anything to improve beside using SR during Crushing Stone ?
elfin ginkgo
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/938825996?t=0h5m43s
What's the % number in the middle of this guy's screen?
unique shale
it is all weekaura
elfin ginkgo
yeah but what does it do
elfin ginkgo
@shut summit what's the % number in the middle of your screen
tepid nest
ye im trying to figure it out, that's a puzzler
it's not trash percent, it doesnt seem to correlate with any of his stats
or DR
its tracking mob count in some way
surreal sinew
it miight be the weekaura that shows you when to move to the next section of dungeon
surreal sinew
because it's going down with %
strong forum
Trash count
Exact % count he needs so he can advance to 2nd boss
Would be my guess
elfin ginkgo
That shit's wild
unique shale
its good when you using different route every time
elfin ginkgo
YO THAT SHIT IS MAGIC TO ME
ionic fern
o.o
unique shale
if you are real m+ player you already know where to go or kill
strong forum
I just remember the thresholds
87ish % in soa before going to last boss
84.6ish% in plaguefall going to last boss
79ish% hoa before skipping
67% in NW before going up
What else is there
76% before jumping down to 3rd boss in SD
That's pretty much it I think
ionic fern
Did they change some trash % in NW btw?
I've been doing the same route as always but now we end up at 99% before 3rd boss which is weird.
strong forum
Did they change some trash % in NW btw?
I've been doing the same route as always...
Not that I know off
surreal sinew
@unique shale i'm by far not the best at logs, but can say that both tanks can help out quite a bit with the miasma
like 20 ish stacks is fine
strong forum
I don't go above 12-15
unique shale
miasma ? you mean shades ?
surreal sinew
i was monk when i was doing 20 so maybe 20 isn't great on prot
the circles on destroyer
that stop healing
if you're doing the strat with 4 groups
unique shale
its huntsman kill
surreal sinew
you should be able to shimy to the nearest groups
ah i looked at the destroyer log firsst
i'll go back ^^
elfin ginkgo
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/938825996?t=0h5m43s
What's the % number in the mid...
In this video i linekd before, at 21:30 ish they are on echelon. What's the addon that auto-marks all the adds as soon as they spawn. And whats the addon that provides the shiny scroll wheel he uses to set up raid markers?
strong forum
In this video i linekd before, at 21:30 ish they are on echelon. What's the addo...
Opie is the addon with the raid markers
elfin ginkgo
ty
surreal sinew
The auto mark is a weakaura
inland raft
Opie is an amazing addon
surreal sinew
For the adds
inland raft
Customizable rings for anything you want to do in game, highly recommend
heavy locust
What do you use opie for these days? In legion I had all my gear sets for m+. Now I can only think of things like food, flask, drums
heavy locust
Lol
surreal sinew
most important item
red tree
Gumboots?
heavy locust
But opie for world marker sounds good
red tree
Gunboots*
surreal sinew
think they don't work at 60 no?
heavy locust
Donโt think you would go anywhere fast with gum on your boots!
red tree
Oh idk I think every engi item should work open word at 60 but that would actually be fun
And give people a reason to have a profession at all
surreal sinew
i mean you already have the skip for DoS and the only "increase" of all professions with the belt upgrade
nvm gunshoes work
red tree
Add em to the bar
surreal sinew
what i really need is an instant swapblaster, my guild knows me and is way to careful now ๐ฆ
unreal scarab
somebody crushed the numbers how much benefit you get with AM over Bolster on your DPS? I Still tend to Bolster right now because i find myself not optimising my reprisal in every pull and having a missing SB sometimes really really hurts.
surreal sinew
think the easiest way is to sim yourself with both talents
but if you're struggling without bolster probably stick to it for now
i run it often just out of laziness
placid oar
Hi guys, for NF tanks. Is it better to go Niya or Korayn for M+?
i was checking out a https://www.herodamage.com/warrior/soulbinds/ds-t26-protection-night-fae and it seems to be asking me to go Korayn for M+ dps but i thought i run though you guys first to get better insights
topaz crescent
I like Korayn, First Strike is great for initial aggro and overall dmg
placid oar
i see, i initially thought Brrrs was better for dps till i saw that site
surreal sinew
burs was nerfed
placid oar
ah i see
topaz crescent
idk if First Strike is more dmg than burrs, but its for sure better for snap threat on pull
placid oar
i guess i shall check out Icy Veins for the recommended soulbind combo
Thank you Iso and Numi
pulsar kiln
You can use adds to trigger First strike again, like yeeting an axe on the foxes on Mistcaller
surreal sinew
not nf so i haven't tried it out
would think with reprisal you wouldn't need the extra damage for aggro
topaz crescent
maybe not, extra dmg is always nice though
topaz crescent
I play with a Ret friend and I still struggle sometimes even with Reprisal and First Strike lol
ionic fern
i guess i shall check out Icy Veins for the recommended soulbind combo
It's suggesting Face your Foes currently due to "middle ground". Go for First Strike and double Endurance for m+
surreal sinew
he shouldn't have his burst on every pull
you can play around challenging shout and using damage cds every other pull
topaz crescent
yep true, need to improve on that
Haven't tried out Face your Foes and double endurance, will give that a try. Been using First Strike as fury so gotten so used it
ionic fern
Haven't tried out Face your Foes and double endurance, will give that a try. Bee...
It was supposed to be FIrst Strike and double endurance. ๐
topaz crescent
oh ok, so First Strike + 2nd Endurance will be better than Face your Foes + 2nd Potency?
ionic fern
The AoE impact that Show of Force brings is like ~2-3% max.
topaz crescent
niya burrs for raid?
surreal sinew
how does nf aftershock feel to play with btw?
topaz crescent
I like it a lot, but then again I'm not doing very high level keys or anything. Fun ability to press though
topaz crescent
i used to be Venthyr, but AA is way more fun imo
topaz crescent
i miss condemn in torghast and raid, but AA feels so good in keys
surreal sinew
well guess i'm good to abandon nl
lavish hare
Hey! Need opinion. I got scale, anima field and Quantum.
Should I go Quantum and scale?
surreal sinew
scale for sure
anima is better
i don't like quantum
barely on dps and not at all on tanks
lavish hare
Great, was in a huge doubt. Tried both and anima seems to proc a lot indeed. Thanks
surreal sinew
it's sick apprently
can't say for sure because no matter how many soa runs i do i can't drop it ๐ฆ
lavish hare
I got lucky, 226 already
surreal sinew
signal plover
Haven't seen anima or scale all xpac :/
surreal sinew
oh i have on the brm i switched off of
so he has a nice 226 scale but that doens't help out my wari ๐ฆ
lavish hare
https://tenor.com/view/angry-panda-rage-mad-gif-11780191
๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
unreal scarab
placid oar
It's suggesting Face your Foes currently due to "middle ground". Go for First St...
Thank you Mwahi!!
plush tendon
is there anyway to determine the DPS gain from banner for your bois over the course of a dungeon (not sims, but in practice)? Was doing a ToP with my Demonology friend (and giving him banner) and he was a pumper on bosses, but still would be interesting to know how much he gained
sweet summit
if youre very good at math and looking at logs, probably
plush tendon
im good at napkin math ๐
but I havnt been logging my M+ (mostly cause I forget to turn them on)
its also hard to look at similar runs on Warcraft logs cause I dont think those wars posting them be pumpers ๐ฆ
sweet summit
seems like too much hassle for most likely inaccurate results
plush tendon
IDK, im not a scientist
shut summit
same
plush tendon
I will say banner would be more fun if there was in-game validation that the bois were pumping
Or else, I got to trust the bois....
signal plover
Dis y banner is dum
plush tendon
Its either NL or Kyrian for me right now
hot oxide
I never knew AA had a stun component to it.
ionic fern
Knockdown jep.
plush tendon
if you pull more then 5 mobs with AA, will the knockdown prioritize casts?
hot oxide
I thought i was just that awesome that the mobs dropped to their knees
surreal sinew
banner is not fun is my conclusion after two weeks
and the locks won't stop harassing me
wet compass
banner is not fun is my conclusion after two weeks
correct
surreal sinew
so wood people it is
sick sentinel
its funny tho
because i feel like the banner plus reprisal is made alot of people say lets try warrior
then everyone quit the banner
wet compass
being a simp isn't fun more people need to learn this
signal plover
Imagine having fun doing dmg as literally any of the other covs
sick sentinel
i had 5 straight prot warrios tank for me in mplus last nihgt
plush tendon
banner is not fun is my conclusion after two weeks
I think I would agree should you be playing alone. I think when you are pugging with a friend or two its kind of fun to coordinate a bit with him. You being like 'banner up, you ready?'
surreal sinew
i had fun in arena with a ret buddy
but that's it
i rarely pug
but it's gonna ruin some friendships
wet compass
I need to get somebody to play shit in arenas with me still ๐ฆ
hot oxide
Night fae shouldnโt be the best pick for many classes but yet here we are
surreal sinew
Night fae shouldnโt be the best pick for many classes but yet here we are
i hate that all my alts are nf
almost
sick sentinel
and since they buffed fae transfuison
a lot of people are abandoning venthyr
liek come the fuck on
wet compass
Night fae shouldnโt be the best pick for many classes but yet here we are
picking the best covenant shouldn't be a thing at all they should be cosmetic only
wet compass
I'm super tempted to go burrs go brrrrrrrr on my veng dh tbh
zealous timber
picking the best covenant shouldn't be a thing at all they should be cosmetic on...
This please, I'm sick of NF
sick sentinel
i miss artifact weapons
hot oxide
picking the best covenant shouldn't be a thing at all they should be cosmetic on...
I agree with this, and if you grind the 40 renown you should be able to keep transmog
wet compass
yes so much yes
has anybody watched the dota anime on netflix trying to figure out what I should watch next and that popped up under recommended
wet compass
we need wow anime already come on blizz
surreal sinew
it's so much better than the warcraft movie
sick sentinel
watching the accuser bully kael thas
surreal sinew
then again i could watch another warcraft movie so i supose i'm not really difficult
sick sentinel
is pretty funny
plush tendon
The Warcraft movie, but staring us brainlets
it could be a documentary. "The Warrior is moving pack to pack, but must be carful not to pull too much or else he may die. Meanwhile, the mage is pulling all of Un'goro getting phat gains'
modern brook
it would literally be 20 orcs sitting infront of a guy plotting to kill the world making shitty jokes and pretending their numbers meant anything from last time
surreal sinew
could make a decent movie of following a lowly scrub killing boars
tawdry dirge
how good is the wall in m+?
wet compass
the stormwind siege but charting out an mdt route to pull exactly 100% and get pride before the king
tawdry dirge
guess its still the go to raidone even after the change on rerisal
wet compass
Yeah 1 min shield wall or w/e stupidity you can do with am is pretty nice
tawdry dirge
wth u can come down to 1 min shield wall? ๐
modern brook
45s iirc
wet compass
With Am it can get very low
plush tendon
with AM and the Wall yea
surreal sinew
ah
modern brook
w/ wall + AM + conduit+ playing the game
surreal sinew
hs doens't reset
plush tendon
super good; would recommend
surreal sinew
the nl are not happy to see me
tawdry dirge
holy shit nice
plush tendon
hard to get full value from reprisal in raid, especially on some fights
tawdry dirge
thats massive for such a great cd
wet compass
lol you getting kicked out numi ๐
surreal sinew
they stink anyway
wet compass
Numi is homeless ๐
plush tendon
wet compass
with who the fae?
surreal sinew
yeah
wet compass
nice
surreal sinew
i missed having damage
tawdry dirge
what conduit is it that reduce SW?
wet compass
I think once I get kyrian mythic glaives on veng dh I might swap to fae those glaives are just gorgeous idk
wet compass
Should be slotted for your defensive for basically every spec
surreal sinew
and i'm not hard trolling
wet compass
kind of hard trolling to drop vial before done but w/e not like you are pushing for top 50
surreal sinew
i've never been kyrian
but maybe i'll have to go kyrian if it's too much
of a wall
ionic fern
Why would it be?
plush tendon
Why would you need Kyrian for SLG?
surreal sinew
the only top 50 i push is petbattles
elfin nova
He said sire
ionic fern
Question remains..why would it be?
astral crystal
sword bleeds
plush tendon
^ sounds like a DH mechanics to me
elfin nova
And the other one keeps the sword for a long while
astral crystal
tfw im in charge of jumping with the boss
elfin nova
He can't do both :p
surreal sinew
ooooh
elfin nova
Warrior jumping the boss away is fine
surreal sinew
well i've got time then
astral crystal
we just put our bear on the sword
surreal sinew
i want to try kyrian too anyway
astral crystal
i would literally kill myself if i had to hold sword for most of p2
plush tendon
Yea, bears dont care about pesky things like bleeds
surreal sinew
but got to get through slg first
tawdry dirge
where do i get the conduit for SW reduc?
astral crystal
slg is so easy now
plush tendon
Is it still unfun? (I wouldnt know, only now approaching it on Mythic)
astral crystal
it is hands down the worst fight in the raid still
but much easier than it was before
elfin nova
The pushback being smaller makes it more bearable
frail wyvern
Is it still considered more difficult than sire?
elfin nova
And you won't die to adds in intermission as much
tepid nest
does spear of bastion work on inspired mobs?
plush tendon
the damage does, but the tether will only work on the mob inspiring
astral crystal
does spear of bastion work on inspired mobs?
no
tepid nest
thanks!
plush tendon
IDK, I dont think inspiring is bad; feels like Ghunnis part 2
astral crystal
yeah it's shitty
plush tendon
I mean, its shit
but I think a lot of people are calling this week dead
without really trying to play the affix
astral crystal
it's not a great week, like bolstering, your mongo potential just plummets
uneven mason
you can CC the inspiring target and break other mobs away from it...eh
wanton condor
inspiring just just annoying because it's slow
wet compass
It's a great week for fury though ๐
uneven mason
but yeah not being able to stun etc
wanton condor
that's it
surreal sinew
or touch of deaht it
wet compass
since you don't want to go beyond 5 mobs anyway
wanton condor
you CC the inspiring, move everyone away, then go back and clear the inspiring
we murdered a Mists key because we thought we could just blast down the inspiring fast enough given prideful that we wouldn't have to worry about the tenders
we were wrong
plush tendon
If we have to CC the inspired mob (sometimes you dont have to), we try to combine it with a pack that does get affected by it
plush tendon
we murdered a Mists key because we thought we could just blast down the inspirin...
Mists is deadly with inspired, but mists also sucks since you cant do any interesting pulls
cant CC inspired, kill the lethal inspired mobs, then bring in the inspired mob cause you are sort of forced to pull whatever Ion gives you in the maze
wanton condor
the maze just sucks as design
I need to rework my pulls for inspiring chain pulls though elsewhere, yea
plush tendon
sometimes creativity is king. Maybe you can pull some inspired mobs on the boss XD
as long as they dont cast
But I feel like Blizz has been trying really hard to make that not possible
elfin ginkgo
How do i access settings?
peak swallow
signal plover
K
sweet summit
signal plover
uneven mason
had to figure out why healers were struggling on Huntsman
my paladin co tank was literally just eating rip soul to the face
nothing like having a 30% soul up for 10 seconds to make your healers work overtime ><
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
plush tendon
is it smart to have a Paladin tank do that part?
jagged pier
as its magical yus
distant crystal
i think they can spell ward every other and like bubble one right
distant crystal
tho prob using their bop for the other thing
jagged pier
and they can help heal the soul
plush tendon
Yea, i guess BoS and Divine Shield should be used there
you usually only get 2 Rip Souls anyways
hot oxide
you know, healers have no damn shame
just saw 1 let a dps die and the dps said something about it in chat. healer said say another word and I'll leave
he stfu for the rest of the run
kept me alive, but damn..
plush tendon
Yea, sounds like a chad
strong forum
All our healers just let people die if they get bitchy
Use a personal, healthstone, health pot.
If you didn't use them, your own fault
lusty ember
hot oxide
like, they just was like you die, you die fuck you
ionic eagle
I've been having a blast lately running incredibly weird routes when dps start mouthing off mid run. Just grab trash that no one gets, take the run in circles. It's good fun
(always make sure you still time it)
mellow patio
All runs are planned meme runs
hot oxide
hate doing emissary quest and see a FP I dont have then feel the need to get said FP
plush tendon
FP?
hot oxide
flight path
plush tendon
oh right... those exist
strong forum
Doing emissary quests
hot oxide
i did
coral oyster
boys i get shit on in halls any tipps for me not dieing in this trash?
sweet summit
dog=ouch
sweet summit
make sure people kick
surreal sinew
cats are better
tardy parcel
interrupt the loyal beasts cast from the huntsmen with a stun or other hard cc
plush tendon
There are a lot of deadly casters+ the dogs at the start. Kicks important and proper usage of CC and SR is important. Also, sometimes the best thing to do is just run away
plush tendon
interrupt the loyal beasts cast from the huntsmen with a stun or other hard cc
Loyal Beast usually doesnt matter if you are yeeting out of there anyways
unless you pull them separate or its the 3 doggie pull
tardy parcel
sure, but it will prevent you from getting chunked in a single swipe from a dog if you /do/ happen to get hit
yeah, I was thinking particularly the tres doggy pull after echelon if you lack long cc for the two huntsmen
plush tendon
That pull is a rotate CDs, CC loyal beasts, and once its all up yeeting
if you have trees, makes it better
Are there bad inspires in there this week?
opal wren
sweet summit
i think most inspires are the houndmasters themselves iirc
plush tendon
The worst inspired mobs would be the casters with the Shards
sweet summit
for sure
plush tendon
Those guys shred
red tree
You ever watch one of them collect all the sins in a 10+? It wasn't pretty
plush tendon
There are definitely a couple of dungeons I think I need to reroute for optimization. Havnt really changed routes based on what we did in Beta
plush tendon
You ever watch one of them collect all the sins in a 10+? It wasn't pretty
I make sure I get that cast
and then I pray the others interrupt the bolts
rare rover
Hello guys, I'm new here and I'm looking for a guide or something where I can find information about best covenant for prot. I'm venthyr actually but i want to change it because it feels awkward atm, if somebody could help me i really appreciate it
strong forum
NF great overall dmg and m+ stunlocks
Kyrain good overall dmg and tether + potion
Venthyr good ST dmg
Necro, can be good to buff group dps
hazy sparrow
Check out wowhead or icy veins
sour hill
But they're all pretty good. Venthyr does really well in raids, NF for damage and stun, Kyrian for tether, Necro only with coordinated groups.
hazy sparrow
Necro feels underwhelming though I'd suggest kyrian or NF they are great for all warrior specs
plush tendon
its hard to gauge value from Necro other then sims and what not since its damage doesnt show up very clearly on meters (easy to see AA or Spear pump)
But realistically, play what you like since in the long run, Cov choice has very little impact on us relative to one another
last grove
How high are y'all prots tryna get your haste to? I'm already at 31% but could be higher
strong forum
I think theoretical max is like 34/35% rn
uneven mason
however high my gear lets it go.
BTW anyone done HC Sire this week?
I was having some interesting issues with his hitbocx
plush tendon
yea, dont really think about it
chilly brook
I think theoretical max is like 34/35% rn
Like max you can get?
uneven mason
like, he would be in front of me, and the knockback would toss me the wrong way
strong forum
Like max you can get?
Yes, without buffs ofc
chilly brook
like, he would be in front of me, and the knockback would toss me the wrong way
Just charge 4head
uneven mason
or he'd melee me in the back ignoring shield
No I mean, he'd be facing the right way,
and I'd get chucked through him
off the platform
chilly brook
Just charge
uneven mason
so I'd be facing the wrong direction
chilly brook
uneven mason
for charge
chilly brook
Turn
strong forum
You get knocked towards your back
chilly brook
And charge
strong forum
Wherever you're facing
chilly brook
uneven mason
Me --> <-- him
Meknockback---------him-------->
it was down from dealing with HoD ><
chilly brook
You can leap back to the platform midair
uneven mason
big RIP
strong forum
Ye at that moment I think the mythic people run through him
uneven mason
but yeah it pulled me through him
strong forum
For the last hit or shatter
uneven mason
like it did the mirroed version
strong forum
They walk through him, to then get knocked the other way
The position of his sword is where he knocks you, or some bullshit, that's what it looks like on mythic atleast
uneven mason
Just trying to figure out if it was desync or a bug
yeah everyone else went the proper direction
limber charm
What stats should i put on my legendary?
uneven mason
I was the only one that went WEEEEEEEE
plush tendon
What stats should i put on my legendary?
Haste/vers generally
uneven mason
...if I SR the knockback does it pull me instead?
limber charm
ok thank you
strong forum
What stats should i put on my legendary?
Haste/vers
Or haste/crit if you're a dmg boi
strong forum
...if I SR the knockback does it pull me instead?
no
plush tendon
I like vers; once I have enough haste, me want dat vers ๐
I remember my season 4 BFA prot war with 80% vers
now that was a hoot
strong forum
I'm just hypothetically talking out of my ass Ikari BTW, haven't done sire this year yet I think
chilly brook
I'm on sludge in mythic so cant offer any real input for that
plush tendon
I'm on sludge in mythic so cant offer any real input for that
You also on autopilot boss?
chilly brook
Sludge fucking sucks as melee
plush tendon
oh wait, do you not tank raid?
plush tendon
I have a hard time enjoying the game when im not tanking
frail wyvern
I got knocked in a weird direction on sire before. My back was towards the middle of the platform with him at the edge, maybe an uncommon bug
vestal moat
If you SR the knockback you do not get pulled or pushed at all in mythic. Thatโs very important for one of them.
chilly brook
If you SR the knockback you do not get pulled or pushed at all in mythic. Thatโs...
Nah bruh just charge
๐
Free rage
frail wyvern
That's good to know, I shall try it
vestal moat
The overlap with the lasers is the one. Otherwise I save sr for blood price.
vestal moat
Yeah itโs massive damage esp if you alrdy got scorn and he will melee or inevitable right after if youโre not careful.
chilly brook
Huh
chilly brook
Shows you how much I pay attention to the world first stuff
toxic otter
the ravage/massacre/knock overlap is much harder than anything in heroic p3
blazing condor
can you actually "cap" valor as in if you hover on the currency it says like maximum 5k/6,5k even if i only have 2k currently
polar radish
strong forum
Next season
And it'll start with 750 valor
And increase 750 valor per week
Or smth like that
Literally like conquest
strong forum
Why
Makes perfect sense in the grand scheme of things, but there is 1 currency missing, valor should be to buy the piece and justice should be the infinitely grindable currency to upgrade pieces instead of hard capped valor
then it would be a good system
crimson orbit
Is it worth taking Double Time with Reprisal to help the in and out playstyle and maintain Shield Block?
strong forum
If you don't need stormbolt, it's not bad yes
strong forum
that's just how it works
Honor cap is infinite, you just can't hold more than 15k at once, but past that you can still get more if you spend honor again
strong forum
Well yeah, valor system itself is dogshit
blazing condor
thats the point im tryna make
red tree
No man you have to plan out what you want to upgrade for the next 4 months
Can't just upgrade all willy nilly
blazing condor
"pve gearing is not fun so we're trying to fix it"
jagged pier
i dont need anything
blazing condor
"but you can only upgrade like 3 items lol
strong forum
Yeah it's just bad
red tree
Gg doods
strong forum
Doesn't work as catchup, which it was intended for
plush tendon
It just feels bad; youll get the item you were looking for after running a single dungeon 15 times, then not upgrade it till after weekly box just in case
plush tendon
Except conquest has a much higher ceiling
Conquest is objectively better since you can buy a specific piece
blazing condor
big think
red tree
You get to buy a specific piece then you use completely disposable currency to upgrade.
Pve gearing still sucks even if they tried to fix it
plush tendon
I think the way to do it is give valor in dungeons for upgrades, but get rid of that stygia drop from loot crate and just give us a currency and after X amount of weeks if you dont take a item you can buy a item you want
lavish oracle
Well I can't get a 233 weapon
remote tusk
Should've used the same system for PvE
lavish oracle
Because I'm bad
remote tusk
Buy a base weapon with Valor, upgrade it with Heroism or locked behind achievements like PvP.
Mythic Sire needed for 233 items.
remote tusk
Yeah
chilly brook
M+ shouldn't be forced into raid tf
plush tendon
M+ shouldn't be forced into raid tf
agreed
plush tendon
make it 20s in all dungeons!
remote tusk
All 20s in time then
chilly brook
Sure
signal plover
Should be 233 weapon plus cosmetic mog imo
chilly brook
Cosmetic mog pog
signal plover
Aka recolor lol
wanton harness
at how many necrotic stacks should i be worried and try to kite?
plush tendon
honestly depends
signal plover
Never kite...if u die, que up in discord and say "wtf, no heals", then leave group
Congrats ur now KSM
plush tendon
Ive gone to 50 with no issue if I have SB up and the damage intake is low
chilly brook
Aka recolor lol
Honestly I wish they'd put out at least one special xmog for m+ each xpac. Ideally each season but at least per xpac. The challenge mode stuff was dope af and it's a shame it only was two expansions
remote tusk
There is still time for that..
We've already received quite a few unique plate transmog options, same for weaponry.
Clothies got Archimonde mogs
chilly brook
We've already received quite a few unique plate transmog options, same for weapo...
They clearly aren't very interested in it, we've had 2 expansions to prove that
urban tusk
Quick question, how easy was it for you as Prot to Pug towards somewhat higher keys?
I am asking since I completed this seasons KSM on my Prot Paladin and it was rough. I do get it, Paladin is not meta, was never meta and supposedly will never be meta but man had I have a hard time getting into groups to complete my 15s ....
Now that my rio is beyond 1.4k I get accepted rather easy in 15-17 keys but at around 1.25k to 1.3k - very tough. How was it as Prot Warri?
blazing condor
i would duo with a mate who was WW mostly so not entirely soloq but i didnt have much issues
i think now with the valor and all its probably best to push your own keys to ksm
if you get a high demand dungeon like DoS or MoTS you can easily get very good people to help you
urban tusk
Mhh I see. Prot Warri might be more in pugging favor then ...
chilly brook
Quick question, how easy was it for you as Prot to Pug towards somewhat higher k...
It was fine, seems to be a lot easier now with 9.0.5 but there were definitely times where I had much higher io than the person holding the key and just got ignored or declined because I wasn't a DH
blazing condor
can only talk for myself i have no idea how it actually is. I did get a lot of declined applies though around 15s probably because of my class
urban tusk
It was fine, seems to be a lot easier now with 9.0.5 but there were definitely t...
Ye, had the same on my Paladin ... even with 220 ilvl and much more io than the keyholder. Some even whispered me after re-applying "only DH"
blazing condor
honestly pushing your own keys - albeit annoying at times - is probably the best way
cinder nova
I can't say I've had issue with being a warrior.