heroic throw with mouseover macro..charge, as you're charging hit avatar....once you're at the pack, demo shout and shield block at the same time basically..then revenge/ clap...shield slam.
#protection
tired yacht
oh noes... so just charge in Revenge and then TC? or just spam Revenge even when there's no proc til the agro is stable?
fringe marten
The finger gymnastics of the pull just become second nature..half the time I don't even know the 'keys' I'm pushing...just the abilities tied to them.
like..I couldn't tell you what my 1, 2, 3..alt 1, alt 2..etc abilties 'are'
just that I use all of them..all the time.
jagged pier
oh noes... so just charge in Revenge and then TC? or just spam Revenge even when...
revenge is our main damage ability it need to be cast more than when its free
snow basin
Yeah, I don’t think I will get a 226 spike anytime soon as my prot is used mainly for M+ but I do have 210 anima field that I could get to 220. Currently using a 213 splintered heart as my other trinket. Been farming for scale for past 2 weeks with no luck :/
tired yacht
revenge is our main damage ability it need to be cast more than when its free
thank you for stating this out! very much appreciated
surreal sinew
and if you don't have the reprisal legendary yet, getting that will help with pulling as you get block for free and get big revenge you can use for free immediately
fringe marten
I do all my keybinds based around my hand location on mouse/keypad..and then the frequency of use of those abilities get assigned to things like Q, E, F..etc. And then you just get used to doing that pull 'blast'
The reason I like doing the heroic throw is because the ability has additional threat tied to it.
jagged pier
thank you for stating this out! very much appreciated
i suggest reading icy veins guide i think it gves he run down on when to use stuff if i remeber
tired yacht
i suggest reading icy veins guide i think it gves he run down on when to use stu...
ok will def do that, thanks again
fringe marten
I wouldn't say revenge is our 'main' damage ability; i would give that honor to shield slam.
But that's just semantics about the definition of 'main'.
surreal sinew
was it you @jagged pier who was trying sludge m with reprisal?
fringe marten
Yar, he liked it.
surreal sinew
starting on it tonight, i'm wondering if I should give it a shot, or just stick to wall
fringe marten
Also KoM remember that shield block and ignore pain are not on the global cooldown.
jagged pier
was it you <@!179993058186625025> who was trying sludge m with reprisal?
yer i did it and made a video explaining how i used it
fringe marten
Avatar is also not on gcd, and I don't think?
surreal sinew
amazing, think i've saved your channel so'ill go check it out now thanks
woeful trellis
Yeah, I don’t think I will get a 226 spike anytime soon as my prot is used mainl...
2 weeks tf how many Runs? Uf ur eu we can do a Farm grp
Oh i thought scale mb
blazing condor
anyone got any guesses on when 9.1 is coming out?
surreal sinew
they said summer i think i remember
jagged pier
august at the earliest now
blazing condor
bruh fr
jagged pier
as weve heard nothing about it so far
blazing condor
thats one long ass patch
jagged pier
not the longest
and i rather stuff comes out not broken
like the raid bosses
and stuff u know
jagged pier
so id rather they take their time just take this time to play other classes specs games etc
jagged pier
go for the tmog this season otherwise its locked away forever
next burrow
pvp tmog? or covenant?
jagged pier
pvp mog
blazing condor
the pvp one
sucks how terrible the dungeon gear is
its all vers/mastery at best
jagged pier
id ask Mwahi he seems to be doing fine and hes doesnt pvp
woven galleon
Is the bis shield for prot the one in mists?
sweet summit
its from mythic stone legion generals, cos 233 ilvl
blazing condor
Im doing fine right now too but im gonna be looking to push higher into m+ and might as well get the better gear
sweet summit
the shield from theatre is slightly better than the mists one at equal ilvl
blazing condor
speaking of stats is more stats > specific stats still better for pushing higher keys
e.g. ilvl upgrade but losing a buncha vers or haste
jagged pier
yes
surreal sinew
is there such a thing as too much haste?
jagged pier
not really
sweet summit
nah
jagged pier
but 39% u get taxed
surreal sinew
yeah i'm close to 45 with itf
sweet summit
without itf*
jagged pier
i mean 39% without ITF
surreal sinew
okay so there's room to go
verbal pelican
current ring: 207 145hast/40mast or 213 125hast/versa, in gv 129 crit/86hast. Shoulders would be replacing the same ones at 203 (61hast/33mast). I should go with the shoulders, rigt? even tho i sometimes run the wall in shoulder slot.
woven galleon
the shield from theatre is *slightly* better than the mists one at equal ilvl
Ahhh thanks! I just had the necrotic wake one just upgraded it to 213 was previously using the 197 pvp honor one hopefully it makes me a little more tanky!
sweet summit
that will help a lot 
surreal sinew
i mean dont focus on it too much i have like 30% with itf
yeah i'll probably cut down and look for some vers or crit
woven galleon
Cant wait to tank some 10s with it!
jagged pier
whatever your highest ilvl is tbh
midnight jetty
current ring: 207 145hast/40mast or 213 125hast/versa, in gv 129 crit/86hast. S...
probably shoulders due to main stat as well
next burrow
isit me or is ur voice really soft in ur vids @jagged pier
what are the must have prot conduits?
jagged pier
i dunno i always record in the morning for less noise
and that depends on cov and boss or dungeon
next burrow
any cookie cutter ones? im necrolord
jagged pier
well then u want your banner one
unvering and stalwart i would always say u want
then if your double potency take SoF for dungeons and Ashen for raids
sweet summit
which soulbind are you using?
next burrow
i have no idea i just switched to necro and doign campaign... 34 reknown but havent finished story quesat
sweet summit
oh ok 😂
next burrow
i should be using Emeni for gnashing chompers? (haste) ?
sweet summit
emeni
plague deviser
emeni is more damage focused, plague deviser is great if you drop below 50% frequently to proc ooz's coating. gives you a decent safety net
next burrow
bonesmith heirmir isnt good ? ravenous pendant seems cool for regen no?
ok thanks so much for the info
next burrow
blizzard wants me to play like this what can i say
tired cove
fight them
sweet summit
im not a big fan of heirmir, he kinda forces you to 0 potency conduits
serrated spaulders is solid tho
im not sure how ravenous pendant works, as i didnt try it. so idk if you need the killing blow of if it works like war machine does
next burrow
with no friends and no IO u dont get invited to keys
conquerers banner gives a better chance, for a pug tank
i am barely timing 14, just did 2-15s timed recently
surreal sinew
makes you want to murder your friends in t he end though
next burrow
oh no the 14% str potency
sweet summit
let me see if i can find a log actually
next burrow
alright i wiill test things out this week and see the differneces
sweet summit
serrated spaulders was 2.7% of my overall here
not great, not bad
wonder if the potency conduit would do more damage
next burrow
i see many vids of prots able to spam revenge though, i dont know how u guys are doing that, i have to constantly keep IP ip, on top of shield block
sweet summit
you can take a look at the log i linked
jagged pier
experience
sweet summit
and see how i did it
next burrow
i am looking at ur log
jagged pier
u only use IP when u need it
sweet summit
obv thats mists, where you take fuckall damage cos like everything is melee hits you block
but yeah
remote hawk
It would not be worth picking up a Viscera of Coalesced hatred 226ilvl over a 220 Stone legion and 203 spattered scale right ?
Would be better to pick the neck that would give me 163 more haste and some mastery(3ilvl upgrade)
lofty widget
definitely
sweet summit
id stick to slh and scale
viscera is so underwhelming
so take neck
remote hawk
Yeah 163 more haste is pog
sweet summit
hazy lake
Do people mainly use the intervene legendary or the shield slam / wall legendary ?
torpid saffron
Plka is now Kyrian, bois! ❤️
hazy lake
are they close in m+ too ?
torpid saffron
I'm curious to see how it will go for him
sweet summit
reprisal is a lot better if used correctly in m+
torpid saffron
sweet summit
and by used correctly i mean just using charge and intervene a lot
next burrow
well i really just want to be nightfae for xmog though T-T
white treebark so so cool
jagged pier
can play what u want NF is good for us
sweet summit
yeah, night fae is very strong
limpid wadi
How good is the Sunking trinket on normal?
ionic fern
Show of Force / Unnerving should now be implemented in simc.
surreal sinew
How good is the Sunking trinket on normal?
ran the normal version for a long time in keys, still run the hm version when pushing keys, not so much in raid
wild sandal
can go either here
do u have an idea for venthyr soulbinds, like all 3 seems so good and im not sure what to go for
frail wyvern
I'm using Nadija
sweet summit
Nadjia ya
frail wyvern
Draven feels over the top defensive
wild sandal
and the duel one i suppose is what we go for?
frail wyvern
I go with middle
wild sandal
ah ok, thank you, i was playing with thotart becaue he gave the versa one
sweet summit
1 min icd tho 
sweet summit
Show of Force / Unnerving should now be implemented in simc.
Sir, did you add LS to the APL
sand condor
depends on how good you are tbh
sweet summit
RBGs are faceroll if you get into the right groups/play premade with guildies or something
fast wyvern
Who drops bis warrior wep?
jagged pier
mythic sire as its 233
subtle island
pulsating stoneheart any good?
jagged pier
no
sweet summit
No
subtle island
thought not
remote hawk
weapon drops are a myth....A MYTH
remote hawk
gonna guess it's pun intended xD
but yeah i have not seen a weapon drop in well over 1 month now. Still rocking a 200 ilvl 1h 😢
gaunt crane
anima field emitter looks trash but is it?
inland raft
Well been nf cuz warrior was alt so was going for fun over covenant diversity but making warrior my new tank since enjoying it so much more, how does kyrian stack up?
strong forum
Kyrian is the best across the board for general use
gaunt crane
real? I just got it in my vault
gaunt crane
that's not too bad, its a big upgrade for me so I guess thats a big yes 😄
tepid nest
hmmm, just did upper reaches on layer 8, no reprisal leggo
gaunt crane
maybe you already have it 😄
tepid nest
i dont, sadly
but people here said they thought it was a 100% drop chance 🤔
ahh fuck
i know what the problem is i think
i havent completed the runecarving pre quests
fml
strong forum
It's 100% drop chance if you get the correct wing
And yeah, you need to do the quest lul
inland raft
I made that mistake on my first alt
errant timber
i havent completed the runecarving pre quests
that also happened to a friend, he noticed after doing the world boss and 40 trys farming ToP first boss for rogue leggo
tepid nest
ouch, i have just done 4 torghast runs thankfully. not quite as bad
remote hawk
Any kyrian bois who noticed the 3% reduced magic dmg change ?
dense gate
remote hawk
nice
muted pendant
Would you guys still play wall in DoS, instead of Reprisal?
sweet summit
i still run reprisal in DoS
feel like i get "the wall value" from reprisal, due to running AM in terms of SW CDR
jagged pier
☝️
mellow gorge
lime urchin
Last night I tried viscera over mah field emitter. Made me a little bit sad
signal plover
Wall is still gud
lime urchin
I like the dynamic that reprisal gives prot warriors over the wall, but it is also a wee bit clunky for small brained tonks like myself
signal plover
I like reprisal in m+ and some raid fights
signal plover
Yeh but I only do 4 keys per week in the 15-17 range usually.
lime urchin
I think that is what most people do yes. But by all means experiment for yoself bruv. But I think all here will recommend AM.
signal plover
Moar avatar = moar damaj
tepid nest
ok, i have another question which is more about play style. at the start of a pack when i have most stuff up, it feels like i have so much rage, like with demo shout, avatar, spear, ravager
do you guys pop them all for damage, or spread them out for survivability?
sweet summit
play best served cold over booming voice with reprisal
and spam revenge
use IP to avoid overcapping
tepid nest
ye, that's what im doing
well, im running booming voice but i will switch
it'll be nice not to have to worry about demo shout being a dmg cd
strong forum
BV is overkill rage with reprisal
sweet summit
^
cloud tide
when is vdh magic damage bug going to be fixed?
sweet summit
soon ™️ ?
woven trellis
i have the worst decision ever
weapon 220 haste versatility or weapon 226 crit mastery
for key 20+ in m+
sweet summit
226
woven trellis
not even the slightest doubt?
sweet summit
nah
woven trellis
impressive
grizzled nova
Weapon secondaries are numerically low.
Weapon DPS is by far the most important stat for DPS.
woven trellis
true but i already had a bit of mastery i didnt want on my gear
its sad
but i understand how u guys r right
tepid nest
Any kyrian bois who noticed the 3% reduced magic dmg change ?
what change is this?
sweet summit
its bug
outer spoke
Al´ar and Scale are good for M+ or should i go for another one?
sweet summit
causing you to take 3% increased damage instead of 3% reduced damage from "let go of the past"
those are the two good tank trinkets currently
al'ar is great if you need it
if you never proc it its just a dead stat stick
and youd get better use of something else
outer spoke
got it now from the weekly quest ^^
blazing condor
Scale and splinter for pushing is always good
If ur doing easy content then get something else as well
tepid nest
so the bug fix is actually a 6% reduced damage taken buff, effectively?
sweet summit
whenever they fix it aye
jagged pier
in terms of what we are now yes
tepid nest
oh, it isnt fixed
grizzled nova
It was already fixed.
grizzled nova
tepid nest
thats HUGE!
signal plover
Passive QoL I can't honestly say I've "noticed" it
tiny remnant
Do you guys use a particular macro for your intervene or charge etc.? And I don't suppose there's a way to write the macro so that you can intervene your dps or healer specifically without having them as focus?
signal plover
Mouse over works pretty well
tepid nest
Do you guys use a particular macro for your intervene or charge etc.? And I don'...
yes you can use [target=healername]
tiny remnant
Mouse over works pretty well
I have seen some people run with the charge on target and mouseover for intervene, might give that a try.
random oasis
how do i properly use reprisal?
tiny remnant
yes you can use [target=healername]
AH nice one
signal plover
Yeah if u run with the same folks or wanna remember to adjust the macro before each run
Then that works well
I just have the combined charge/intercept macro and then a focus intercept keybind.
tiny remnant
Yeah if u run with the same folks or wanna remember to adjust the macro before e...
Yeah, I just sometimes like to focus a target to interupt, so it is kinda annoying to set someone as focus to intervene.
tiny remnant
I just have the combined charge/intercept macro and then a focus intercept keybi...
Could you send me your specific macro so that I have an idea if I want to change it easily?
tepid nest
guys, which would you recommend more, icy veins or wowhead guide? or are they written by the same person
turbid cargo
Also make sure you aren't charging through packs for reprisal only to have the rest of the pack smack you from behind as you pass through
signal plover
At work ATM but I think it's either pinned in the #268491842637660160 channel or in mwahi's guide
surreal sinew
#showtooltip Charge
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge
signal plover
Yeh that
tiny remnant
Ah sorry, thanks for sending it over
surreal sinew
dw
uneven mason
Also make sure you aren't charging through packs for reprisal only to have the r...
Legit most fun I've had with reprisal is mythic huntsman where the rogue I was using as my target figured it out and shadowsteps 1s before intervene is off of CD, so hunts turns and smacks me in the back. So I put a marker on his head.
cyan sedge
is it actually worth it to wear an int 1 hander with haste
polar radish
does anyone know where to find/could someone post the intervene macro with /targetfriend
cyan sedge
str increases your dmg mitigation and is your best stat
yeah I figured that
I was just wondering if this warrior was 400iq or 40 iq
he asked for my int one hander
I gave it to him in the end
surreal sinew
yeah no , i did that too in the beginning when i had no clue
strong forum
Transmog
surreal sinew
does anyone know where to find/could someone post the intervene macro with `/tar...
i'll see if i can find it
cyan sedge
tfw he was already wearing an agility weapon
cyan sedge
oh well
surreal sinew
spirit for better rage regen 
strong forum
Int weapon, or rather spell power what it was back then, was for prot Paladin in tbc a thing
cyan sedge
spirit for better rage regen <a:huggies:800812796647833632>
spirit
strong forum
Feels bad, but helmet has biggest stat budget so it's worth
craggy harness
Feels bad, but helmet has biggest stat budget so it's worth
Yep. eyes water
surreal sinew
lime urchin
Welcome to Scale club @jagged pier Big Grats
jagged pier
how long has it been 5 months
without seeing one ever XD
now phail and sintouched and im done for gear
uneven mason
no scale, but got the 220 sanguine, so I cried a bit less hard
replacing my IQD felt good.
signal plover
Gotten stygia 4 weeks in a row even with heroic carries (we're extending mythic so no loot there) and 4 keys. Bit sad innit'
jagged pier
i wouldnt have got scale if i hadnt done 10 keys last week
so thank god i started boosting keys XD
small marsh
How do I stop sucking with spell reflect please and thank
surreal sinew
does anyone know where to find/could someone post the intervene macro with `/tar...
what are looking to do with the macro realistically?
small marsh
Also I hate you jakey my vault has been shit for weeks :(
muted pendant
does anyone know where to find/could someone post the intervene macro with `/tar...
I'm using this: /cast [help] Intervene, [mod:shift,harm] Heroic Leap, [harm] Charge or #showtooltip Charge
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge
surreal sinew
think practice is all, i still miss a lot of stuff beyond shadowcore
strong forum
How do I stop sucking with spell reflect please and thank
Use it on CD and you're already using it 90% effectively!
The other 10% is holding it for stuff you know can or will target you
small marsh
Wait fuckin really
surreal sinew
does anyone know where to find/could someone post the intervene macro with `/tar...
yeah there are targetfriend macros but from what i've just tried out it really looks like something that'll get you slapped in the back, mouseover or party target seems like the way to go tbh
strong forum
I mean, it's better to use it on CD, than to not use it
small marsh
I'm always trying to hold it smartly and sucking
Lol fair
Bluh M+ just has so much shit to memorize
small marsh
I swear learning all of M+ is like 10x the work of learning CN
Raid tanking is so easy compared to M+
strong forum
Yes
small marsh
Otoh tank is easiest role in raid and probably hardest role in M+
Generally speaking
Raid tanking CN is almost mindless
strong forum
Once you got the hang of the class and how m+ plays, you start automatically figuring out stuff naturally even when going in for the first time
CN is the hardest tank tier in a while
So idk chief
muted pendant
its only "hard" if you have braindead dps/heal who don't even try to help the group like doing the maze in mists
strong forum
Council slg and dena is 100x more challenging than any raid boss before for tanking
Positioning matters a fuckton on those bosses and how tanks can influence success there
polar radish
atm i have
/targetfriendplayer
/cast interevene
/targetlasttarget
But i saw macros on here that had something like /[noharm]targetlasttarget for the last line, which would be better if the macro hadn't found a friendplayer
modern brook
just do a mouse over and use your raid frames
strong forum
^
modern brook
then you're optimizing the wrong thing tbh
uneven mason
Positioning matters a fuckton on those bosses and how tanks can influence succes...
Nothing like that last Hand of Destruction in P3 on heroic...
unique shale
hey guys what is best tanking race for ally ?
modern brook
hey guys what is best tanking race for ally ?
Dwarf/DSDwarf
unique shale
was it kul or mechgnome ?!
uneven mason
🤮
jagged pier
its dwarf
modern brook
no it was dwarf or darksteel dwarf
modern brook
Whatever
uneven mason
stupid rogue
modern brook
not a nerd wouldnt know the lore
strong forum
Mechagnome for dmg, dwarf for tanking
surreal sinew
atm i have
```
/targetfriendplayer
/cast interevene
/targetlasttarget
```
But i...
it should work fine and do fine but i'd be worried about some bad intervenes if i wasn't being too careful. At least mouseover you should always know where you're going
real fossil
what lv 30 talent are people running with the reprisal lego?
unique shale
what is dwarf benefits for tanking tho ?
strong forum
2% crit dmg and healing
And the stoneform
jagged pier
hmmm another kyrian pot
uneven mason
what lv 30 talent are people running with the reprisal lego?
BSC in M+
strong forum
Stoneform is fucking OP
uneven mason
I remember early BFA when Dark Iron's racial would give you 1 stack of the str buff per stack of debuff removed
real fossil
and then for the 50 row in m+ its AM over bolster since we have enough sb uptime
right?
strong forum
Yes
uneven mason
so I'd truck around the 2nd boss in UR and get 15 stacks then slap it and go HAM
that got fun detected fast tho
unique shale
idk i dislike being a dwarf cause it make me like a boomer
strong forum
uneven mason
Legit playing alliance
uneven mason
worried about apperances
unique shale
uneven mason
These kids and their glitter vamp fetishes
modern brook
idk i dislike being a dwarf cause it make me like a boomer
playing ally is a boomer move tbh
remote tusk
a rat.
jagged pier
get rid of factions we dont need them anymore we work together all the time pvp can just be us practicing for war
dont @ me
remote tusk
can you charge over enemies and assert dominance like a highmountain tauren? i think not.
uneven mason
get rid of factions we dont need them anymore we work together all the time pvp ...
fuckit remove all races turn everyone into goblins
merc as fuck
surreal sinew
best mount though
amber herald
nah horde are trash
sweet summit
blazing condor
youd think the alliance vs horde thing wouldve ended by now
we're stuck in the infinite loop of "grr i hate u other faction uh oh guess this one threat needs us to work together so lets be friends"
marsh aurora
Hi guys
surreal sinew
we need a 3rd faction
viral mountain
stupid question: with reprisal leggo. is 100% uptime shield block possible at a certain haste level?
surreal sinew
rat people vs the rest
marsh aurora
I had no problems running duingeons today aside from ToP where gorechop and last boss were kind of destroying me through IP + SB
any tips on how to h andle the tank busters there ?
viral mountain
I had no problems running duingeons today aside from ToP where gorechop and last...
reapting scythe you can spell reflect
uneven mason
You forgot
Horde makes bad choices, lets murdering psychopath lead them. Is shocked when a war starts. Half the horde who were sitting on their ass before hand doing nothing (looking at you tauren and trolls) rise up to take out the nutter, goes "Guess we'll let the Undead handle things, what can go wrong when we let murder zombies run the show"
viral mountain
so every other you can completely mitigate
blazing condor
You cant reflect every scythe though just fyi
muted pendant
prot is best tank on last boss ToP with that SR 😄
surreal sinew
if you let the 1st one through you an sr 2 or 3 in a row with the right timings i think
marsh aurora
i mean it's my 1st day tanking so i was quite clueless ngl
lofty widget
you can reflect all IF she only does 3 casts before transition
marsh aurora
so i only did 10s, so we didn't wipe or anything but higer keys will be an issue
viral mountain
@marsh aurora youll eventually learn to rotate the short CDs in with the big ones so youll always have something up
its really a practice and comfort thing
marsh aurora
also my shield block up time was poop but that's something i'm working on
viral mountain
i rerolled prot 2-3 weeks ago from rdruid its a blast but theres a learning curve
marsh aurora
63% uptime with 14% haste kekw
marsh aurora
yeup
viral mountain
intervene charge macro?
marsh aurora
i find ToP annoying to use it
yeah mouse over
but i was more into learning fights
than getting charges in
tbh
viral mountain
maybe a big WA reminder to intervene when its up too
marsh aurora
as a dps player i can ignore 90% of the things
jagged pier
63% uptime with 14% haste kekw
viral mountain
well with trash, when/if you kite away. likely there is one lagging behind. charge to the furthest mob. again it just becomes a habit after a while
sick sentinel
I want to be able to slow thigns :c
viral mountain
youll get there
jagged pier
I want to be able to slow thigns :c
TC slows things
surreal sinew
shockwave really slows things too
jagged pier
so does fear
inland raft
Most of the time i use fear as an interrupt and instantly break it so movs dont head to the next pack
lofty widget
thats what menace is for amirite??
odd verge
feelsbad'
jagged pier
i used it once with the fear conduit wasnt to bad u just has to actually aim where the mobs go
so its just to much work for the worth of it tbh
wanton condor
best of both worlds would be menace but cower in place, as you really generally just want it for the aoe interrupt
ebon hound
Menace just turns it into Incap Roar 👌
mental scarab
😂
wanton condor
yes
uneven sable
Hey guys, what are the best trinkets for Prot atm? I just got a 216 Overwhelming Power Crystal and idk if I should go for it or chose the 207 shield from the raid to replace my 171 ^^
uneven sable
atm I got shit trinkets since its a new alt (darkmoon and macabre sheet)
uneven mason
36ilvl increase on your shield is going to be >
wanton condor
shield >>>>>>>> anything
uneven mason
like over anything
uneven sable
Ok thanks for the heads up guys 🙂
uneven mason
a 6ilvl increase on your shield is going to whip upgrading your trinkets
our upgrades are basically Better shield -> yes
plush tendon
anytime I debate going NF... I just look at our raid logs and remember, oh yea, everyone is NF
sick sentinel
:c
sick sentinel
TC slows things
tc is the bootleg slow
wanton condor
get cracklin' and have just a normal knockoff slow at least
jagged pier
or go kleia and take the random 45% slow
wanton condor
that said, playing both CT and more jumpy this week I think I'm preferring the latter on NW at least
stitchwerks fucking suck
soulshape has been a huge help but good lord do I miss my kyrian pot
sick sentinel
the pot is that good?
somber silo
Hi guys. I just switched to NF. Anyone able to make me the best tanking build for mythics and raid? I just te reprisal legendary 😁. Got 1400raider io as dps but wanne try to tank some (because i suck at it)
plush tendon
the pot is that good?
its incredible strong since it removes curses, bleeds, dots, etc.
sick sentinel
dude
marsh aurora
the pot this week is opppp
plush tendon
Hi guys. I just switched to NF. Anyone able to make me the best tanking build fo...
As far as I understand, this is the pumper build for NF
sick sentinel
I could use that for
the flying snakes in SoA
the ones everyone always forgets to interrupt
plush tendon
the flying snakes in SoA
Spell reflect them; line up all their casts at the same time
lofty widget
nah thats a magic effect, you should reflect those tho
plush tendon
big dam
somber silo
Allright! For m or raid, or doebst really matter? I'm just renown 19. Switched 2 days ago 🤒
plush tendon
why interrupt when you can spell reflect?
uneven mason
Because there is 5 of them
sick sentinel
good idea
plush tendon
Allright! For m or raid, or doebst really matter? I'm just renown 19. Switched 2...
that build was for M+, unsure whats best for raid
uneven mason
and those damn things don't sync up easy like NW casters
plush tendon
^
lofty widget
never had it bug for me
plush tendon
I usually get 3-4; 1-2 usually go through
sometimes the magic 5 happens, but realistically getting 3-4 reflected is gains
somber silo
that build was for M+, unsure whats best for raid
Allright! And for talents? Thats alot already
uneven mason
Niya is best for raid
plush tendon
Allright! And for talents? Thats alot already
Reprisal build; Devastor, Booming Voice/Best Served Cold (BV for def, BSC for off), Indomitable, Ravager, Anger Management
Then you can either join team Double Time or Stormbolt and also decide if you want to go team Crackling Thunder or Super Leap
uneven mason
You can either go Herbs (haste) or burs (passive damage) on niya
since herbs procs from indom healing
plush tendon
You can either go Herbs (haste) or burs (passive damage) on niya
Dem burrs go burrrrrrrrrrrr
uneven mason
less than before
used to proc and hit multiple targets
funtimes that first week
having it be just behind revenge in dmg
since you'd drop 3 burrz and it'd hit 6 targets
3x
plush tendon
I saw our havoc last night on Sludgefist do some big dam with burs
im like, why is that allowed?
but alas, ya boi is a necrochad
small marsh
the pot is that good?
It's hands down absolutely, by far, the best signature ability for tanking
uneven mason
over valuing pot
small marsh
Actually with reworked flesh craft that one is aight
plush tendon
I mean, pot is good
surreal sinew
i'd agree somewhat for m+ but flesh is pretty sweet now
plush tendon
but its not, end all be all
somber silo
Thx m8!
small marsh
Eh it's more that yiffshape and mirror warp are both very meh imo
sick sentinel
I'm actually a fury warrior in disguise
plush tendon
still probably better then door of shadows 😦
small marsh
I don't love the nf or vn signatures that much
plush tendon
I remember in early beta when people thought\ door of shadows would be bonkers
surreal sinew
yeah it's the main reason i haven't caved and gone nf
small marsh
And was thinking of old dogshit NL signature
plush tendon
The current one, especially when running emeni with the cast while moving, is quite good
small marsh
I think flesh craft and pot are both WAY WAY better than either of the mobility signatures, for tanking
plush tendon
I think for pure defensive purposes, yes
but for low mobility tanks, soulshape and door can be helpful
uneven mason
I think flesh craft and pot are both WAY WAY better than either of the mobility ...
Because we're not slug tanks (Pal/DK)
plush tendon
Because we're not slug tanks (Pal/DK)
what you talking about, my DK zooms!!!
plush tendon
Are you dissin on deaths advance
uneven mason
is like a Segway racing a ducati
strong forum
♿
uneven mason
DKs lose to wheelchair paladins, how about that.
plush tendon
actually, I think paladins are slower
strong forum
According to our elesham, paladin is fast on xymox
plush tendon
at least we can talent into Wraith Walk
plush tendon
According to our elesham, paladin is fast on xymox
Doing Xymox on my DK was amazing! Funny watching everyone suffer trying to run away from annihilation
uneven mason
yeah running the bDK for alt runs that is like, the only plus over warrior hah.
foggy plover
ey guys need a little help i am swiching from dps to tank for my raid group as warrior what covenant should i go for the raid and what leggo should i craft i have all gear 220 from pvp haste versa so i dont know if i am missing something so i can replace the tank we had in our mythic progress
wanton condor
I think pot is best on necrotic weeks, otherwise soulshape is nifty in that it lets you run CT and not worry about kitability, but yes, in general it's the best m+ tanking skill
plush tendon
yeah running the bDK for alt runs that is like, the only plus over warrior hah.
Ive been stuck on my BDK for this tier.... we somehow lost 3/4 Unholy DKs so Im there as a 2nd AMZ
uneven mason
The wall or reprisal for raiding, TW is very strong but passive and uninteresting, reprisal is a bit more complicated to make use of, but is better in M+ as well.
As for covenant - Kyrian is fine.
NF is fine
NL is fine
plush tendon
Necro is chad
uneven mason
Venthyr is fine
wanton condor
NL 10s of invul on death is pretty good
"whoops I fucked up, time to give everyone 10s to react and do free damage"
uneven mason
NL is simping bois who have a pipe dream of actually contributing to their raid but in reality keeps buffing the holy paladin and MW monk
plush tendon
Do holy paladins get damage from their mastery?
uneven mason
no sadly
plush tendon
damn
uneven mason
if they did venthyr Hpal + Prot war would be meta
foggy plover
@uneven mason thanks mate do i need some specific stats ? i have gone for versa haste and mastery i have like 9% crit and with what conduites should i go for raid and talents
uneven mason
<@!123448908838862849> thanks mate do i need some specific stats ? i have gone f...
item level
plush tendon
Who says it wont be though
uneven mason
it might be in 9.1
we've got some tanky boys almost on the front page of Raider.io
TIME OF THE KITER IS COMING TO AN END!
AGE OF THE 🧱 ARISE!
plush tendon
Yea, lots of people are playing prot war right now
I think VDH just burnt them out though
uneven mason
I think the gap of what is possible with Pwar/Guardian at 226ilvl and what is possible with VDH at 226ilvl is very small
and thats what we're starting to see
frail wyvern
They are worried that the VDH bug with magic dmg will get fixed and gearing other tanks 😅
uneven mason
the tanks who don't need to kite are reaching the upper ranks now because gear is filling up our tankbutts
plush tendon
I agree; my DH hasnt started to feel anymore, or less, tanky since I started playing it
toxic prairie
I think warrior splits the difference well between massive ball of wall (guardian) and jumpy boi (DH)
plush tendon
granted, at low I level early it was night and day between VDH and everything else
stable kernel
VDH bored me too much to even remotely wanna play it
lavish oracle
@frail wyvern Nah, it started before people discovered the bug
toxic prairie
I like vdh, it’s the havoc that bothered me
hot oxide
i have all 5 tanks, warr makes me giddy
toxic prairie
I just like fury and arms better
uneven mason
I think warrior splits the difference well between massive ball of wall (guardia...
we're quite a bit more on the tanky side than anyone but Guardian
uneven mason
Brain off, big numbers
how big numbers when can't even out DPS a VDH?
toxic prairie
Agree. My first tank was prot pally and it was too stress inducing in higher keys
wanton condor
is tank gear just getting us tankier faster than dps is getting dpsier?
jagged pier
i have all 5 tanks, warr makes me giddy
there are 6
wanton condor
basically such that dps is more of the limit in pushing keys
jagged pier
strong forum
It's usually the other way around Sigma
lavish oracle
That's not a thing, havoc does sick AoE right now
strong forum
Tbh
wanton condor
right, that's what I'd think
round current
Is there a reason why you wouldn't use signet in m+?
strong forum
Dps dealing more dmg than tanks can get tanky
strong forum
Is there a reason why you wouldn't use signet in m+?
Cuz it's trash?
jagged pier
Is there a reason why you wouldn't use signet in m+?
it has zero defenisve value
foggy plover
@uneven mason for the wall what item should i build it with what stats mate
wanton condor
pop avatar
Bladestorm procs
well shit
uneven mason
shoulders haste/vers
hot oxide
6, forgot druid
round current
If you want to do damage wouldn't it be better?
uneven mason
so it has defenive value (minorly)
hot oxide
there are 6
i dont tank on druid, just heal
uneven mason
If you want to do damage wouldn't it be better?
Reprisal buffed revenges way better
lavish oracle
Than reprisal? Definitely not
round current
I see, good to know thx
plush tendon
now if signit procced a free ravager... then we would be in business
hot oxide
wouldn't you use the wall in a raid?
strong forum
I see, good to know thx
Our ravager also doesn't proc signet, only avatar, so it loses 50% of its value
uneven mason
is tank gear just getting us tankier faster than dps is getting dpsier?
DPS is almost always going to be your upper limiter in completing keys, you can figure out a way around almost anything, but actually dealing enough damage in time.
this is a big reason why VDH was the meta, and really the reason we're seeing prot climb a bit higher now is we got 2 buffs
reprisal treated a lot of QoL issues on engage
wanton condor
right, my thought here is that DPS is basically maxed; you're not pushing past 25 or so regardless of your tank being fucking invincible
uneven mason
and 10% aura buff is nice
wanton condor
until tanks get big enough to pull extra packs that is
uneven mason
VDH just happened to have the highest potential burst dmg out of all tanks on a short timer, WHILE Maintaining all defensive value
turbid cargo
VDH just happened to have the highest potential burst dmg out of all tanks on a ...
so long as the packs die fast enough 😛
sick sentinel
all cov still balanced for mythic +?
plush tendon
all cov still balanced for mythic +?
yes
uneven mason
so long as the packs die fast enough 😛
Thats where the kiting came in if pull lasts longer than 8 seconds - run forest run
sick sentinel
im leaning nf but not sure haha
uneven mason
pretty sure if Ravenous/Incarnation was on a 1min CD Guardian would've been the meta tank
turbid cargo
Thats where the kiting came in if pull lasts longer than 8 seconds - run forest ...
yep. sure wish my heroic throw hit 3 targets and had no minimum range
sick sentinel
soo im ok with nf wont be an issue
plush tendon
I would put Kyrian ahead of NF since someone gots to bring the Kyrian buff with all these NF mages, hunters, and druids running amok
uneven mason
Sure wish my heroic leap left a circle that exploded for 30k
sick sentinel
and how does the reprisal leggo work
uneven mason
or ravager had a 15s CD
uneven mason
and how does the reprisal leggo work
charge and intervene give you block and rage
uneven mason
might put us above VDH!
outer solstice
gasp
hot oxide
living the dream I see
uneven mason
"Heroic Throw now produces an axe that spins around the target dealing 300% weapon damage over 15 seconds"
sick sentinel
hwo does the revenge part of it work?
sick sentinel
gotcha
uneven mason
like if you had dodge/parry
outer solstice
It's the buff you get from dodging usually
uneven mason
also gains the buffed dmg from BSC
outer solstice
So BSC is good with it
uneven mason
But yeah, you see VDH do their thing
and then you watch a guardian who is venthyr do the Ravenous/Incarnation dance
and understand where the real power is.
"Giant red Murderbur"
flint roost
If you macro tclap and demo after heroic leap, you kinda get a poor mans vdh
broken mulch
hi i'm filling in tnking in raid tonight, think 216 with 15% haste and 21% vers is enough to get by in mythic first 6 bosses? or will i giga struggle
sweet summit
bit low on haste but that shouldnt matter
youll be fine
survivability is like 95% self play anyway
broken mulch
ahh yikes =p can't let the gear carry me XD
hot oxide
If you macro tclap and demo after heroic leap, you kinda get a poor mans vdh
throw some avatar in there and boom cha ching!
sweet summit
dont do that 👀
turbid cargo
I have like 8ilvl on you and almost twice your haste (same vers). I still splat spectacularly when I jack something up.
The life of a warrior - play super well, you're invincible, screw up and you're abstract art on the floor
tranquil charm
should i use Reprisal on Legs or Feet?
turbid cargo
I wish waist was an option for more of our leggos. super cool transmog options with that belt
they need to let us transmog the shadowghast set ffs
modern brook
i heard rumblings that next tiers set is just the shadow ghast set
modern brook
they've been omega lazy with transmogs lately imo
unreal scarab
so satisfying when you do some dungeons on your twinks and come always back to your prot because it just feels right and fun
strong forum
The legendary set will be available as transmog in the future
Just not now
And by that time it'll be boring cuz everybody will have the set basically instantly, Mark my words
It's prolly just gonna be a fucking campaign set
signal plover
80000 anima cost
strong forum
Eh idk, if everybody has omega easy access to it, it'll be cool for a week
signal plover
See ya in 3 years
Some nerds will do that in a few months to get a wowhead article
blazing condor
me 🙂
signal plover
Prolly not
blazing condor
😦
spring umbra
sry if this is a newb question but tried to search, is there a specific opener once i have reprisal?
any of that change?
uneven mason
charge - revenge+shieldblock
not really
just that you have a lot more rage on opening to pump damage/defense
spring umbra
I figured if we have a free revenge wed want to spend it asap for the show of force TC etc
uneven mason
whats show of force
spring umbra
"rev increases next tc" conduit
uneven mason
doesn't exist
ionic nimbus
The legendary set will be available as transmog in the future
9.1 Raidsets are skins of legendaries in 4 different colors 🙂
uneven mason
9.1 Raidsets are skins of legendaries in 4 different colors 🙂
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
spring umbra
uneven mason
"We fired the intern we had working on tier sets for starving to death at their cubicle"
uneven mason
I see nothing
you should delete that if its in your book
wait... are you venthyr?
strong forum
9.1 Raidsets are skins of legendaries in 4 different colors 🙂
Isleep
wanton condor
I really wonder what tools they have for art assets, as they put out so few I can't imagine they have more than a few people working on new sets or that they're having to program them in machine code
spring umbra
im kyrian
uneven mason
I really wonder what tools they have for art assets, as they put out so few I ca...
literally moved 80% of their artists into new IPs
plush tendon
shouldve made Show of Force work in the opposite; Thunderclap increases the damage of your next revenge!
uneven mason
after Legion
uneven mason
shouldve made Show of Force work in the opposite; Thunderclap increases the dama...
TC increases the damage of revenge for 6 seconds
make it a maintenance buff
plush tendon
YES
chilly brook
Maintenance buffs can die in a hole
plush tendon
someone get Ion on the line, we just fixed Shadowlands
spring umbra
why is it not good now? charge/SB, free rev, empowered tc ?
chilly brook
Just let us do damage lol
uneven mason
Maintenance buffs can die in a hole
Says legit the dude whos current raiding spec is a walking maintenance buff
chilly brook
Wdym
plush tendon
why is it not good now? charge/SB, free rev, empowered tc ?
Thunderclap hits like a wet noodle, this aint your BFA thunderclap
uneven mason
Arms/fury are both maintenance buffs
chilly brook
Nah fam
uneven mason
(or debuffs in arms case)
chilly brook
Is slap the button
uneven mason
is a maintenance buff
chilly brook
Nah fam
wanton condor
fury is PRETTY LIGHTS GET SLAPPED
chilly brook
Slap the button
uneven mason
yah fam
wanton condor
arms isn't really though?
like you never have to think about deep wounds
unless you mean rend
fuck rend
uneven mason
Condemn does
chilly brook
like you never have to think about deep wounds
Kinda not true
wanton condor
(not venthyr)
chilly brook
I only mortal strike to maintain the buff
Like 55% of your fight is maintenance buff
wanton condor
running either of the non-venthyr leggos it's still in rotation
strong forum
Sof is a small dps upgrade, if you're playing pelagos it's the go-to 2nd potency to play, but kleia simmed higher for me anyway
wanton condor
either fishing for CS or mostly free via overpower
wanton condor
frankly they're just more fun to play, I really like letting MS reset OP and then OP can reset MS
wanton condor
yeah, I only offspec arms for alt raids
uneven mason
sitll no 2h weapons this Xpac anyway
wanton condor
this is my tank alt for m+ afterall
uneven mason
quit arms with a 197 2h
I've gotten a single 207 2h since
here is hoping I get a 220 orb offa sire farm tonight
course dual 226 as fury probably blow that up
surreal birch
Ok I just heard that WFT is based on groups lol
wanton condor
yup, party based
strong forum
Well Party = group
You have up to 8 groups in 1 raid
But Party is usually used for the 5 people in your group
Including you
sacred quarry
What are people using for mythic + affix weak auras? (e.g. to track necrotic stacks, if enemies are in sanguine, etc) Any good weak aura collection that covers them all?
I tried 'Abby's Mythic+ Affixes' but nothing seemed to show up (maybe I didn't configure something?)
strong forum
I don't track any affixes specifically
It's just debuffs anyway
Sanguine you can see on the enemy buff frame
lofty widget
i have a really annoying one for necrotic that plays an airhorn every 3 sec if thats something you want lol
strong forum
And they turn red
sacred quarry
Interesting I didnt know enemies turned red
Air horn for necrotic sounds exactly like what I want
modern brook
i just use defferal of onus tbh
sacred quarry
Over X stacks, blow my ear drums out
modern brook
necrotic is a dps affix if u think about it
lofty widget
strong forum
Necrotic is variable, sometimes you wanna kite at 25 sometimes you don't kite until 50 stacks
🤷♂️
lofty widget
its set to 20 iirc, but you can turn it up or down as you wish
sacred quarry
awesome, thank you
Yea definitely is situational when to leave but some packs apply it way faster than Im expecting sometimes, so just having an alert like this will be awesome
uneven mason
Ok I just heard that WFT is based on groups lol
Sounds oldschool
tardy parcel
Yea definitely is situational when to leave but some packs apply it way faster t...
Any leapy fucks are particularly bad for stacking Necrotic quickly lol - thinking of the little guys in Gorechop's wing in ToP specifically
uneven mason
Any leapy fucks are particularly bad for stacking Necrotic quickly lol - thinkin...
first area of NW, the big lumbering dudes and the leaper
they both have haste buffs iirc
and the little dudes dualwield
ionic nimbus
NW with necrotic is still pretty fine for prot warriors, lots of blockable dmg
uneven mason
yeah its just that bit in front
they should die fast but flipperhanded DPS can't be bothered to GROUP UP SO THEY STOP JUMPING
chilly brook
Sounds oldschool
Speaking of I'm watching classic TBC content. Plz halp
uneven mason
Can't wait to get my elemental shaman rolling
gonna grab a lightning cap
and be a machine gun
tardy parcel
my rshaman buddy has been rolling with the earth ele legendary with me and it is comical how much damage that thing does
marsh aurora
I don't track any affixes specifically
make sure you use the ayaya one when playing dps on a spiteful week tho
marsh aurora
I got the helm from Mists at 184 with a socket while running weeklies, do i upgrade it to 220
dps is fine reee
or do i keep valor ?
marsh aurora
yeup
approximately
that's like the 1st week cap
well i'll run other mists then
but the socket was like hours saved from grinding venari
which felt cool
marsh aurora
i used to do them on my spriest
i gave up
also i got reprisal at 225, do i hold on to my ashes for 235 or do i craft the wall if i intend to raid a bit this week ?
i saw nawoh using reprisal in raid but i'm new to tanking so i'm affraid i'll move bosses around too much
patent osprey
Cba doing daily maw shit
Casual
sullen drift
i got a trinket from a WQ 197 ilvl candle that gives 501 versa for 12 sec is that any good?
gloomy seal
For raid tanking, if I'm running with two boomkins or two fire mages, do you think it's worth the meme of Banner?
surreal sinew
you won't see a massive difference
it's a nice buff
but it requires quit a bit of coordination and won't blow up the meters
gloomy seal
Kyarian it is, bless.
surreal sinew
(you can also play any other cov you won't go wrong, even vent)
gloomy seal
I'm swapping to tank prolly, am Fury so defo a Condemn machine rn
strong forum
ill take it!
surreal sinew
i switched to necro , it's been fun in 3s and m+ but i miss condemn
strong forum
4.3% leech gang
chilly brook
Will cost your entire valor cap to upgrade that helmet to 220
How much is it to upgrade a helmet?
strong forum
look at these beautiful stats
chilly brook
Like per upgrade
sweet summit
🥺
strong forum
Like per upgrade
idk 250 or 450
surreal sinew
varies per item, rings and trinkets are cheap
strong forum
trinkets are 400
surreal sinew
ish
chilly brook
Only reason I'm curious is my paladin got a 210 haste mast with socket
And I haven't had the time to look
craggy pilot
which one is best for Prot? together with a Heart of Alar
i also have 220 Anima field
cinder storm
Has anyone tried this with necrotic? I will do it tonight but was wondering before testing it out
sweet summit
can almost guarantee you that it gets reduced by necrotic and thus not great this week especially, as you more often than not have the most necrotic stacks as the mobs are dying
flint tiger
is there a reason several M+ tanks are going with reprisal on boots instead of legs? Is it just cause they have access to mythic ilvl pants?
chilly brook
It's also likely not going to be useful to you
plush tendon
Has anyone tried this with necrotic? I will do it tonight but was wondering befo...
I tried it on Grievous week, It wasnt amazing, but my healer appreciated it between pulls
also procced from shades
astral crystal
is there a reason several M+ tanks are going with reprisal on boots instead of l...
ya they can prob get 233 from SLG
strong forum
wtf, switching sockets and enchants from full haste to full crit is only a 0.9% dps gain on 3 targets for me
how
uneven mason
Thinking sockets and enchants are worth sizeable differences kek
strong forum
yeah but like
its like 100 crit vs 100 haste when i already have 990 haste and had ITF active aswell
uneven mason
our stats big together
strong forum
seems weird
uneven mason
feels legit
since you're slowing down your rotation
thus, providing less opportunity for them crittings
strong forum
ima stay full haste then if its that tiny of a difference lmao
strong forum
i miss having 30% parry ngl
strong forum
huh
uneven mason
its what I did
uneven mason
rite
strong forum
open eyes
uneven mason
unless you have a flipperhanded DH
strong forum
oh free loot
strong forum
oh god the horror
uneven mason
legit first kill was when I killed him on pull by intercepting
and letting the first thrash slap his ass
was like butter
he stopped momentuming
strong forum
tfw im a blood DK now
uneven mason
screeching for externals every time
uneven mason
but yeah I was rolling high crit early on
strong forum
he just needed to get 2 DS off before the next hit
uneven mason
just how the cookies crumbled for gear
and I was getting 3-5 strings of parry
was glorious
found it~
from the archives
strong forum
tfw im a blood DK now
wet compass
ewwwwww gross it's a rat
strong forum
always have been 🌎 🧑🚀 🔫 🧑🚀
wet compass
is there a reason several M+ tanks are going with reprisal on boots instead of l...
Because you run thunderlords on boots so it's an easy swap
flint tiger
ah, i haven't done any tanking this xpac yet so I don't have any of the legendaries made. Been arms only
uneven mason
Because you run thunderlords on boots so it's an easy swap
400IQ answer
flint tiger
with new reprisal, would I ever want to run thunderlords?
uneven mason
no
flint tiger
if I only do M+
wet compass
with new reprisal, would I ever want to run thunderlords?
because a lot of people might not have kept boots if they were always running tl
uneven mason
legit worse than wall in every way
I mean, I guess me calling any of our legos garbage is pretty hairsplitting since TW was legit not in the garbage can because whatever dev tossed it at the dumpster was a shittier shot than they were a developer
"functional, and boring!"
is what they think we like
torn stump
uneven mason
you can tank +15s with no lego
wet compass
but why
uneven mason
so signet would be fine
the benefit of not having overpowered legendaries
is it legitimately makes it ok if you don't have one
vocal vessel
Did Blood-Splatted Scale not tell you how much damage/absorb it increased per mob?
uneven mason
Going to Ironman this warrior I'm leveling, no covenant, no legendary
vocal vessel
I could have sworn it did
wet compass
jesus why
uneven mason
prob won't be able to do it until fter I move tho
uneven mason
the only thing that sucks is you can't use covenant armor/weapons iirc.
so the raid dropped weapons/shield are usless
valid zodiac
Socket >6 ilvl?
wet compass
uneven mason
Socket >6 ilvl?
context?
valid zodiac
Got 226 helm already with leech and got the same one again also with leech but with socket. However I can max upg to 220
wet compass
being lazy and not finishing venari
valid zodiac
since it dropped drop dungeon
uneven mason
Got 226 helm already with leech and got the same one again also with leech but w...
keep the 226 on helm
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finish venari and get your socket
valid zodiac
from venari
uneven mason
being lazy and not finishing venari
I detest the maw
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But what are the odds of getting leech on both
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We all do
uneven mason
hmm have enough soulash to craft leaper
might do that
since I don't have the mount yet.
makes maw bearable I heard.
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They need to make it so a rank 4 costs rank 1 level once you have a rank 4
uneven mason
wat
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in terms of soul ash
once you have one done getting more should be easier than it is
distant crystal
that would result in people doing torghast less
that's the opposite of what they want
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I think it would be more actually