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chilly brook
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No?

light thicket
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Or aomething like that

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First time you bloodthirst a thing you enrage for sure?

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Did i missread a talent?

uneven mason
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wat

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oh the WW cleaves don't count

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for that

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gotta be the cast BT

chilly brook
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^

light thicket
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Well that wouldve been nice info to have

uneven mason
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indeed.

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Fury is legit prob the easiest DPS spec in the game once you get used to the pace

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except for havoc

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but who the hell plays havoc

light thicket
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Ye the pace

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Thats what i meant with the cocaine thing

uneven mason
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"I Have 2 buttons and a 1min CD hurrrr"

light thicket
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You gotta smash the fucking keyboard

chilly brook
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Bro its sloooooowwwww

tame jasper
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DONE! KSM DONE 😄 Finally 😄 party

uneven mason
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its GCD locked but not a agi GCD capped spec?

chilly brook
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I want my 25% haste enrage back

uneven mason
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Gurtz Bukama

uneven mason
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Why did they gut our enrage

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"people decided it was too fast"

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"Who are these people are why are they 190 years old"

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legit slower than WW havoc and Feral

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"too fast"

light thicket
uneven mason
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or pyroblast

tame jasper
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And thx to the comm for improving tipps

tiny remnant
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To the NF Prot warriors, do you find it difficult to line up your Ancient Aftershock with the majority of bosses and their movement in CN? Trying to work out whether to switch to Kyrian or NF with great difficulty.

uneven mason
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No

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Bosses hitboxes are huge

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most will stand still for quite some time

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only sire moves around a big amount

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and during that time period you're really focused on cleaving the adds anyway

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rather, sire can stand still if you don't get massacre lines

light thicket
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Wp

uneven mason
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Like, IDK what bosses move around a lot?

light thicket
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Still working on that one

tiny remnant
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So I imagine it's a massive dps advantage over spear then? The WowHead guide seems to suggest that Kyrian would be better for raiding due to boss mechanics/movement, but if you guys find it easy, then surely NF would be superior?

uneven mason
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eh

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splitting hairs

tiny remnant
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Suppose it's potion too

chilly brook
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Also your job as a tank is to keep things in one spot

tiny remnant
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Yeah you ain't wrong there

uneven mason
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in which case watch for the rampage casts and then leap out

mighty valley
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Most bosses just chill, trying to think of the exceptions... sun king I guess

tiny remnant
mighty valley
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how long does AA even last? it's not forever

uneven mason
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welcome to warriors, I know, its strange to have options

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12s

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but the pipes are in the cast

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I've had crits near 30k off of it

tiny remnant
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Do ya simp for the blue furries or the blue angels? Smfh

uneven mason
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Kyrian and NF are the least simping

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its all about your kaboom

tiny remnant
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Yeah, I learnt that the ultimate simps are now the banner boys

uneven mason
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Like the soulbinds in NF aren't even defensive

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you take the pumping setup

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crit and +dmg or big self mastery and BURRRZZZZZZZZ

tiny remnant
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Burrz does look good

uneven mason
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its tasty

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nice passive damage

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procs a lot

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Uh oh I must've said something stupid enough to bring Mwahi down

chilly brook
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I mean

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NF I find more useful for keys than spear

ionic fern
chilly brook
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So that's how I really made my mind up for NF

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Oh and the fact I dont have to do any dancing for the mastery

mighty valley
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just pick the one with the coolest vibes and make it work

tiny remnant
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I am actually currently locked out of Kyrian due to changing before. I might just switch to NF to try whilst I wait.

ionic fern
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Do it.

light thicket
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Mwahi is just prowling waiting for someone to say they play NS in mithyc CN or something

ionic fern
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Then you can run the 5 NF dreamteam.

light thicket
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To jump to their throats

uneven mason
chilly brook
ionic fern
uneven mason
tiny remnant
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I heard weird things happen in Ardenweald after mid-night tho

uneven mason
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its always midnight in Ardenweald

chilly brook
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Idk had no weird things

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But idk

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Also

uneven mason
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Griff is also a furry

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so IDK

ionic fern
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👀

chilly brook
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Inky black potion or w/e coupled with Ardenweald is BiS

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Bro

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I'm no furry

tiny remnant
chilly brook
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If furries wanna behave like animals they should be treated as such

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Wheres my 12 gauge?

deep steppe
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👀

ionic fern
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Me when ever i see a bear tank:
"AGH..another one escaped the zoo"

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Good thing i'm alliance otherwise there would be vulpins everywhere

signal plover
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Tru

chilly brook
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Worgen

uneven mason
signal plover
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Nah

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Vulpera are furry on the inside too

tiny remnant
uneven mason
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And paw manages to make it far more strange

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stop

ionic fern
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I don't think i've seen a single WOrgen.

chilly brook
signal plover
light thicket
uneven mason
signal plover
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me always missing being tauren

wet compass
chilly brook
light thicket
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Ban him

wet compass
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just for you griff 🙂

light thicket
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Quick

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Before it spreads

signal plover
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Ikari you did this

wet compass
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What I'm just posting Griff's favorite art

uneven mason
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

chilly brook
wet compass
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burn baby burn

glacial ivy
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yo guys

signal plover
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Fuckin degens from upcountry I swear

glacial ivy
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if i change

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covenant

chilly brook
glacial ivy
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do i still have other conduits

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i earned

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?

uneven mason
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yes

wet compass
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wait you are reeing at elmo burning the world now?

glacial ivy
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great

uneven mason
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you just have to learn the new "covenant" conduit

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no he's REEEEING at me calling him a furry

glacial ivy
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kk

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thx

wet compass
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I mean if he plays a worgen ....

chilly brook
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I dont

uneven mason
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That was when I was younger

chilly brook
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I play Panda

wet compass
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that's worse

uneven mason
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it was the wifes idea, we were experimenting

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So he likes fat Furries

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got it

chilly brook
wet compass
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I found griff's insta

chilly brook
uneven mason
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tiny remnant
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Came for the cov advice, stayed for the character assassination

uneven mason
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But you just were!

wet compass
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you are playing panda ironically?

signal plover
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Picked a hell of a time to pop in tbh

chilly brook
uneven mason
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eh I'm sorry griff, panda is legit

light thicket
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Dude back there asking a serious question

tiny remnant
light thicket
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Among all the furry wars

uneven mason
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yeah 2nd only to Femorc

wet compass
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griff's workplace camera

light thicket
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Excellent image for the server

uneven mason
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ok ok drop it

light thicket
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Lol

uneven mason
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But, yeah Panda has some amazing animations, except for running

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like 2inch legs

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IDK

wet compass
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yeah but belf

uneven mason
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Looks horrible

wet compass
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you monster

chilly brook
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The running kinda sucks

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But all the acrobatic shit is dope

uneven mason
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also, food buffs

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I like people who eat

wet compass
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........

uneven mason
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Why I can't play DH

tiny remnant
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Bruh

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the graphics and armour animations on the belly

wet compass
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that's a fetish ikari and kind of a gross one

light thicket
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Hey

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No kink shaming

chilly brook
uneven mason
rugged flare
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Hey guys, looking to prep a prot warr for m+. Is haste vers still best for prot warr? Im thinking getting pvp gear (2100 rbgs) as arms warr as kyrian then swapping to necro for prot. Any suggestions?

uneven mason
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don't swap to necro

wet compass
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haste is godly

chilly brook
uneven mason
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and yeah ilvl > haste > vers

chilly brook
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Overhyped

mighty valley
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yeah, just don't go too far out of your way for haste, almost all ilvl upgrades are good

chilly brook
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Underperform

uneven mason
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Thx Llarod

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HYPE HORN 📯

plush tendon
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Why you do this 😭 I like me banner

turbid cargo
wet compass
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also no reason to swap to necro unless you are running wf level keys

uneven mason
chilly brook
mighty valley
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banner's fine, people were just acting like it would be required to exist and it's not lol

chilly brook
rugged flare
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Ok, so necro is overrated, then kyrian for pvp (arms) & m+ (prot)?

uneven mason
light thicket
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Whats the number when diminishing returns kicks in for haste?

plush tendon
chilly brook
turbid cargo
light thicket
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Nice

plush tendon
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Kyrian is boring, if you won’t take the banner, at least take AA

limpid pawn
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aa?

mighty valley
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night fae, ancient aftershock

amber herald
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nf ability

plush tendon
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Ancient aftershock

wet compass
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AA is best friend

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You get burrs and first strike

uneven mason
wet compass
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do all the damages

mighty valley
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alcoholics anonymous

uneven mason
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FS and Burrs are 2 diff soulbines

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😄

wet compass
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yeah I know

rugged flare
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k, whats go to leggo for arms in pvp ? sry for asking as this is protection tab

plush tendon
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No clue

limpid pawn
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i was doing some keys last night, revenge wasn't my top dam 😮

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it was shield slam, then kyrian spear, then revenge

plush tendon
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Probably one that makes mortal strike hurt more or something

tiny remnant
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Alrighty, so apart from being a haven for the furries, it's fair to say that NF does better dps in both M+ AND raids over Kyrian then? Seems like Kyrian potion is the only other thing to consider for me

limpid pawn
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the spear is a huge amount of overall damage, not sure if any of the other covenant abilities can beat it

lofty widget
uneven mason
turbid cargo
lofty widget
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jinx

uneven mason
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I am the jinx

uneven mason
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but is hard capped

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spear has scaling damage above 5

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iirc

rugged flare
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thanks !

plush tendon
blazing gale
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AA will also knock enemies

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makig it strong for interrupting annoying casts

uneven mason
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AA will knock enemies down ever y3s

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for 12s

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yeah biggest reason, aside from slapping for 25k +

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is some of those big ouch casts.

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non DR interrpt

hollow pine
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Everytime i do the killer dos packs i wish i was nf

plush tendon
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The only way I leave necro, if there’s a mass exodus of NF dps players

blazing gale
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that's not going to happen probably

plush tendon
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Me want my haste from PF and 10% vers from ToP

uneven mason
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omnomnom

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but theres alwaysa NF

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like not having a NF in your party is near impossible

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NL and Kyrian rarest I think

plush tendon
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Yea, I ain’t channeling a urn

limpid pawn
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IMO spears from SoA and orbs from NW > pf hastse and 10% verse in top

blazing gale
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nl and venthyrs

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mostly venthyrs since rn

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only arms warrior is nf

limpid pawn
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also Necro shammies are easy to find

blazing gale
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and some shammies

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venthyrs are super rare

plush tendon
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Never see enough shamans yet

blazing gale
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alot priest rolled to nf already

tiny remnant
limpid pawn
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b

plush tendon
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I also prefer big dick h pals

outer spoke
uneven mason
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he meants venthyr

plush tendon
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Gotta get the mages, locks, hunters away from Night Fae

blazing gale
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can't

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nya giving so much mastery

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can't hold itall

uneven mason
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I think with how common it is to find NFs I may swap back to Kyrian

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after raid tonight

plush tendon
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I’m never going back to Elysian hold

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On my war at least

uneven mason
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

blazing gale
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kyrian's usually just any tank or retri/hpals

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Idk I really liked kyrian zone the most

uneven mason
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I abhor the Xmog

blazing gale
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swaped to venthyr for raid but since im proggin on boomy anyway think I can go back kyrain to tank some keys for fun

uneven mason
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but I'm also so sick of ardenweald

plush tendon
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To be fair, you don’t need to be kyrian if you run with a ww

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Might as well, 5% more damage 🙂

blazing gale
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I hate everything about ardenwald except covoke lol

uneven mason
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ust the soulbinds for Kyrian are very blech

restive wigeon
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just unfort for us that hunters and monks are now back to dog tier

plush tendon
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I also just found out today you can name your owl

uneven mason
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yes

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swolkin

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not an owl

plush tendon
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No, like they can have a name

uneven mason
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Yes

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Its race is Swolkin

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not Owl

plush tendon
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My swolkin isn’t swol anymore

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He’s now a owlbro working on his dad bod

uneven mason
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even if they're the tiny one

blazing gale
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the owltreatment

restive wigeon
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speaking of names

plush tendon
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Though I do love the kyrian buff in NW, even if it’s overkill; kills first pride Uber quick, pull trash on first boss and watch it all melt

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And then yell at your range to get in melee for big deeps

light thicket
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Wait

uneven mason
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don't forget to use the first spear

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through the trash

light thicket
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What was the PF necro buff?

uneven mason
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on the boss

plush tendon
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Sometimes I use it, sometimes I save it

uneven mason
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PF necro buff iirc is basically bloodlust

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I suppose depends on tyrannical week

blazing gale
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@restive wigeon I also went the creative way and called my druid Uranus The Faceless One

uneven mason
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Like, TYrannical you want spears on 2nd boss

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altho he's less cancer

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since the big nerfs

plush tendon
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I remember we went up to the necropolis with like 3 spears, 2 hammers and 1 orb

uneven mason
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"OH add won't spawn in bumblefuck anymore"

blazing gale
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idk we always use spear + hammer on 2nd 3rd and 4th boss

plush tendon
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Now that was a fun time

uneven mason
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soon as Stichflesh came down

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he dropped

plush tendon
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Naw, we use it for big trash pulls

blazing gale
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why to its capped

uneven mason
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ah, I had flipperhands

blazing gale
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depends how big you pull

plush tendon
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Also, keeping axe throwers alive big plays

uneven mason
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which have harder times with bosses

plush tendon
plush tendon
blazing gale
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my last 3 runs

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as dps anyway so I cant controll the pulls

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but tyran spear boss is huge

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with hammer on top

plush tendon
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Huge boss dam, but can also be huge trash dam if you do em together

uneven mason
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yeah last boss you wanna sit on them until he puts up the frost shield

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that thing fucking hurts on tyrannical

blazing gale
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idk imo best to use on lust

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when everyone pops cd's

uneven mason
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mebbie spear will blast out his shield in 1 go tho

blazing gale
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but I guess you dont have them on pull alot because 3rd boss takes like 20seconds

uneven mason
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stops people from getting chunked

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we lust on 2nd

prisma bear
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is there a consistency problem with the 3rd boss in SD and reflecting her explosion spell?

plush tendon
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Lust+pride+spear+kyrian buff

uneven mason
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*deflect

prisma bear
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aw ok ty

blazing gale
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we just usually keep mages on 2nd in trap / cyclone / poly etc

restive wigeon
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btw if you deflect a pride snipe

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does it damage the pride?

blazing gale
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so they are not annoing af

lofty widget
restive wigeon
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L

light thicket
uneven mason
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doesn't quite do the truck

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trick

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but he'll have more than 1 shield

light thicket
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Nah but i use it just cause im happy to have it back

uneven mason
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yup I get ya

light thicket
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Fucking paladins

uneven mason
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I was sad when I saw "does not work on bosses"

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in the torghast anima powers.

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like WTF fun detected

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4000% dmg

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kills normal mobs

light thicket
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Wasnt it like 10k

uneven mason
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who gives a crap about normal mobs

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used to 1 shot bosses

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because you'd stack it with the 200% from charge and 120% from shouts +20% avatar and 20% BV

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they've since nerfed the charge bonus

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and iirc the shouts only stakc to 3 not 4

light thicket
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Im all about that leaper build now

uneven mason
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that EQ DoT

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yeah

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was fun

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add that to leaper

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and I'll legit run keys using it

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"Other tanks jump out of danger"

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"Warriors crush them like its Mario Brothers!"

light thicket
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Jumping around more than vdhs

jagged pier
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@strong forum F

shell hare
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has anyone that switched to necrolord experienced this bug?

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not sure why its 8/9 though

strong forum
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indie game

jagged pier
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got the last charge and missed executes to never rank 1 D:

placid blade
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Bruhs, i just signed up for this discord! what is the preffered covenant for prot warrior?

tardy parcel
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All of them are good at different things as of 9.0.5. Kyrian and Night Fae are ideal for general-use prot covenants. Venthyr is great if you plan to dps as Fury or Arms as well. Necro is good if you can coordinate with dps who benefit from the banner.

light thicket
placid blade
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where and how do i find pinned messages?

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And thanks btw!

light thicket
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Top right corner

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Look for the pin icon

placid blade
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thanks my man

strong forum
jagged pier
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that was sludge

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but yes

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council is trash

strong forum
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i know

jagged pier
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i hate it

strong forum
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im just saying

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i hate council

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i love it

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when LITERALLY FIRST PULL OF TGHE DAY is the best pull

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every week

jagged pier
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sounds like my guild and progression

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BUT 98

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and im rank 2

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like not even 99

last mason
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if i had a quarter for every shitter fucking mage that depletes a key bc he tries to meter whore and not combust on prides, id be a fucking billionaire

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it blows my mind

elfin nova
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@shell hare i had the same thing when i went NF, it fixed itself for me when i waited a few days and an extra calling randomly appeared

last mason
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its a fucking 1 min cd

elfin nova
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4 billion is a lot of mages

placid blade
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Anybody got a macro for charge / intervene?

rancid ember
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#showtooltip Charge
/cast Intervene [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene; Intervene
/cast Charge [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge; Charge

noble nacelle
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Are we crafting Reprisal on Boots due to SLG Pants?

haughty sleet
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@jagged pier where the curse of weakness at

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Yell at your warlocks

jagged pier
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Literally didnt check i asked for it after that meh, my warlocks and dps whores so 🤷

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Doesnt matter to me that much tbh

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Wasnt taking much damage

haughty sleet
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It’s like 1k less dps

haughty sleet
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Be cool if we could dps enough for me to get full execute window on 4th pillar

lime urchin
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13 Theatre of Pain runs this reset, but I finally got new shoulders! \o/

remote hawk
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Gzgz

midnight marsh
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very quick question do you guys play first strike for NF ? 🤔

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or face your foes

lime urchin
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face your foes, like a real tonk!

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no idea sorry

midnight marsh
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lol

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thanks anyway :p

strong forum
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first strike for m+

midnight marsh
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👍

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i assume the AA conduit is better potency

strong forum
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Absolutely

mighty valley
cinder skiff
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About to hit 60 with my prot warrior, night fae or Kyrian for m+. Mastery is no good for my group by the pinned spreadsheet

mighty valley
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Either one, kyrian a little safer, night fae a little more damage

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just whichever tickles your fancy

cinder skiff
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Lol thanks

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Blizz made those two to strong for to many classes

mighty valley
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that's an argument for going kyrian, they're just rarer so your dungeon mechanic will be in more demand

cinder skiff
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I picked venthyr back when SL came out, it is lacking during leveling

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Can't wait to change it

worn pike
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anyone changing to necrolord? or have been? how much better is the absorb shell every 2min over the phial? thank you

cold crystal
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ive been playing necro for this week but im only 190 ilvl. Id say that phial is probably a bit better for times when the dispel is great. Necro seems like a great choice in more organized group play

pallid kraken
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i like necro regardless of pug vs organized, I feel like conq is just a real "prot warrior"ability

urban tusk
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starting to bring my warrior into m+ ... and oh boy getting threat feels painful.

small marsh
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Craft Reprisal

cold crystal
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having ravager on every pull feels essential

pallid kraken
sturdy sable
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Have you considered revenging more

small marsh
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I alternate ravager and spear usually

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Also charge revenge with Reprisal and bsc

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Gets you a lotta threat

sturdy sable
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Leap to reset taunt helps in a pinch

urban tusk
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ye need reprisel. dont have it yet, since its my alt

small marsh
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Charge revenge Tclap intervene revenge is such a good burst of threat

odd verge
small marsh
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Stewards

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Nuff said

cold crystal
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the channel feels great if you get the soulbind to allow you to move and channel

small marsh
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I'll never switch off Kyrian because I love my owl buddy

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I wish Bron didn't knockback or I'd love Mikanikos

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Just make it a damn knockdown

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Uncontrollable random knockback is such a deal breaker

cold crystal
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im kyrian on my main and felt like changing it up and trying somethin new on my warrior and i think necro is a good experimental covenant

halcyon fable
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I tried searching on google but couldnt find any info, how do absorbs like the blood trinket and necro shield work with ignore pain?

bleak badge
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Quick probably over asked question, do we use BSC with repirsal?

worn pike
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M+, Thunderlord still bis or is Reprisal now king with the change?

hot oxide
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Reprisal is bis

bleak badge
worn pike
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thanks all!

sick sentinel
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What's the go to covernant for m+? Kyrian or nf?

hot oxide
sick sentinel
inland mesa
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what slot do you craft reprisal in, and haste vers or crit haste?

manic haven
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how do you use reprisal in raids? specifically how do you fish for charges

sick sentinel
short relic
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If you play fury then go nf, good in both single target and aoe

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Night fae is also nice bc of soulshape, more mobility, tho the pot is really nice for prot to clear bleeds

stoic ice
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hey guys looking for Night fae prot warrior tree and conduit outline where is it pinned

azure smelt
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any tips for tanking SLG? grabbing the all the skirmishers feels harder than it should be.

short relic
astral crystal
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just heroic throw them as they come down too

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sometimes they get pretty fixated on healers, pallies in particular

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just taunt those

stray glen
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Is necrolord a thing you should go for, if you are looking to both raidtank, and do mythic+. Or is it still just kyrian?

whole needle
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the bad thing about discord is having to read the same question every 10 minutes

whole needle
stray glen
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9.1 is still a bit away, but im getting a tank spot on our mythic raiding team, and i just want to Know what you guys would go for

azure smelt
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@astral crystal challenging shout isnt even that helpful they all trickle in

astral crystal
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it depends on their landing order rng

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and location, but i always use challenging to grab em when it's blast time

coarse magnet
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just had a question about prot warr tanking for m+ and raid... necrolord buff confused me on the what u should be going factor for pve is it necro now? kyrian?

grand drum
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kyrian would be a good all around option. necro is for simps who want to be a buff bot

coarse magnet
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also sry 4 repeat

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thx

stoic ice
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do you phantom fire or sprectal strength for M plus as prot warrior typically

mighty valley
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think you just gotta sim it... i bought a big stack of weightstones and strength pots and will reevaluate when i run out

north copper
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when do i switch from BV to BSC?

surreal plinth
#

What is everyone using for their conduit slots this week?

amber siren
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@north copper when you use reprisal

north copper
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Oh damn ok

loud otter
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will i regret swapping to kyrian or necro from nightfae? I feel like the nightfae ability just doesn't feel great to play with in M+

heavy sail
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Play what you want.

inland raft
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Kyrian for pugs necro if you play with mage boomy in regular group, but nf is amazing in keys not sure what your not liking about it, so many stuns

heavy sail
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There’s no correct answer.

loud otter
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I'm pretty new maybe I'm just not using it right

dapper coral
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Are there mobs? Press the button

heavy sail
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Necro has the potential to be best in certain somewhat organized groups, NF is the solo-pumper choice for tank damage, Kyrian gives you a free heal that removes poisons and bleeds, Venthyr gives you on demand ST damage.

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There really isn’t a single one that’s a bad choice

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Pick one for aesthetics

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Shit doesn’t matter at all.

inland raft
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The one you enjoy the most will be the one you perform the best on

dapper coral
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@loud otter you're probably just experiencing fomo. Honestly, all the Warrior covenants are essentially the same thing while feeling slightly different

loud otter
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Hmm I think you're right. I think I'll stick with NF. I have invested too much in my garden

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THe content that really matters

dapper coral
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The process to switch/switch back is extremely simple and straight forward. Experiment. I'm on my 3rd covenant in the past 8 days

surreal birch
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So Kyrian is still optimal? Or Draven/Maldraxus catched up a bit?

torn stump
#

i just got around to starting keys this past week and ive tanked everything over 10 as venthyr. It feels fine but im gonna be sadge next week for necrotic without kyrian vial when i go for KSM clears

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if you arent doing like super high keys i dont think it really matters

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like at all

heavy sail
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Don’t think it really matters period. Not sure if Plka is still the rank 1 r.io prot, but he got that spot playing venthyr the whole way.

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Still rank one but has since swapped to necro

torn stump
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unless banner shoots out aoe condemns, not worth

surreal birch
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Just what I thought, been vent since start, RL is pushing me for necro/kyrian for raid progress, since I became main tank, but I just don't see a point

mighty valley
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where's your guild at in the raid?

sick sentinel
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What would be the difference between upgrading necrotic wake and mists weapon?

mighty valley
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very small

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slightly more haste on the NW which is nice

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but the actual secondary stats are small on weapons

sick sentinel
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I have the mists weapon and not sure if to upgrade it now or try for necrotic then upgrade that

mighty valley
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i'd probably just upgrade the one you have and eventually replace it with a 226 from vault

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hunting one specific piece of gear can be frustrating

sick sentinel
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true, its 207 but still tempted so I dont have to farm

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well atleast I'll do it after vault

winter pulsar
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If I run torghast as prot do i also get the memories for arms and fury or do i have to do it in those respective specs?

sick sentinel
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you get them for all specs as prot

undone verge
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ngl that verse looks juicy

surreal birch
chilly brook
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And hes trying to push you into a specific covenant

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Hahahhaa

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Venthyr is actually really good for raid tanking anyways

feral gale
#

my only issue with venthyr as a raid tank is justifying that rage spend on a condemn from 100-80%, plus its only a flat dam reduction. op for execute phase tho

alpine ravine
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venth is already good

chilly brook
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Just ignore IP when you can condemn

feral gale
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i guess, I do want to try it. maybe I am overly defensive in raid idk

chilly brook
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Condemn is IP but slightly worse defensively and league's better offensively

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Just ignore IP when you can condemn on a boss

feral gale
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hmm maybe that is the play then. i've been itching to swap out of kyrian since we're on the last 3 of the raid now

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it just felt greed to be venthyr, but if it's that close to an IP in value

alpine ravine
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still deciding which cov to go for m+ sadge

chilly brook
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Condemn go brrrr

feral gale
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nice

vocal bison
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Kyrian spear is juicy, can be #2 overall damage ability in M+, nice get out of jail free with kyrian pot too on necrotic and bleeds

feral gale
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yeah spear gains big value on those larger pulls for sure

vocal bison
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Finally got aotc this week so got my 40% buff to spear conduit, loving it

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Spent too much time getting sucked into pvp for duelist, now just getting into M+ pushing +15s since aotc is checked off, not a lot of playtime with the job this xpac, had to prioritize, lol

wet compass
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lul ion's guild reached slg and wants to reclear sludge I see

unreal marlin
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why are a majority of top raiderio. score prots palying wiht reprisal boots sitnead of legs? (nearly none of them have the 233 legs from raid)

unreal marlin
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probably im stupid but i did before and still dont see it?

craggy harness
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Maybe I shouldn't write when I wake up in the middle of the night from an asthma attack

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lol

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Sorry

jagged pier
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probably 2 reasons, they have access to Mythic SLG just havent had the drop yet or they are replacing their TL boots

craggy harness
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Maybe they got legs already, and got the boots in case of double legendary later on

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And soul ash won't be a problem? Iunno

vocal bison
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Jakey is probably closer I think to the mark, the only other leg legendary is kind of potato right now

surreal birch
mossy peak
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also even if you dont have current access to m slg, maybe you plan on killing it later

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making the boots still potentially the longer term better choice

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or you just had shitty boots and good legs and it was better immediately and in the long term to do boots

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people grossly overstate the importance of getting legendaries in the right slot

ionic fern
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I am fairly sure i have all my legendaries in the "wrong" spots ngl.

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While there is a difference it's not big enough for me to bother with it.

lime urchin
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\o/ it’s Tuesday so it’s push evening with the boys again!

lime urchin
mossy peak
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on the other hand, your class/spec may have shoulders off of a final boss and no neck, or have poorly statted necks available in general

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secondary stats are also distributed differently between slots, not just primary

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a neck has over 200 secondary stat at 226, shoulders have 100

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there are a lot of factors involved that wind up balancing it all pretty well

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i'm not saying one option isn't better than another

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just that the gap between these choices is often significantly smaller than people seem to think

ionic fern
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Watch us have next tier mythic feet from raid and no legs.
So eeveryone who did Reprisal on feet (due to having mythic legs) is going to now do them on feet? 😂

mossy peak
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also like, in terms of "the difference between stats on shoulders vs neck"

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since you're clearly talking str

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it's not about the amount of str on a 235

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it's about the amount of str on a 235 compared to a 226

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and the secondaries on the neck at 226 compared to a 235

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it's not like you're suddenly losing 60 str by crafting the neck

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you're losing 5

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my the wall has 66 str, my regular 226s have 61

lime urchin
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I wish I had the skill level playing M+ that this kind of min-max would actually benefit me

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But I’m just a dirty pleb

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Standing here in front of you in the rain

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Casting intervene on cd

ionic fern
dry spear
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hey guys, when you pug a m+ grp how do you deal with the route? yesterday i pugged as a tank and the grp just pulled mobs. ran from grp to grp. and then, when i lost the route i had in my head i did a misspull and overpulled. so we had wrong %. and then they said "wow nice route..." nevermind, i just finished the key but i want to know how you adept to misspulls? do you have an addon with the % every mob gives you?
also i dont tank normaly so i need to learn those routes. is there an external site i can put on my 2nd monitor and watch it white tanking?

mossy peak
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if it makes you feel any better, warriors of all flavors aren't in the level of keys where that kind of optimization would be possibly relevant

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your class will stop you before your stats do

ionic fern
lime urchin
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My skill will stop me before class and stats will tbh

mossy peak
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lemme look up the addon, i have one that shows mouseovers for %

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but after a while you get it in your head anyway how much stuff is roughly worth

ionic fern
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Also..the easiest way is to probably get the route from MDT - screen shot it and put the picture on second screen.

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🙂

mossy peak
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so without being too needly you can like

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figure this extra pack was worth 7%

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so in your head you think, well i'll skip this later pack that's about that much then

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unfortunately prideful is the big sticking point for % and routes rn

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it is extremely hostile to over pulls

dry spear
ionic fern
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Jep.
That's why i'm a orange name.

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Smort.

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😂

dry spear
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orange is the new smart

mossy peak
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hmm idk which is adding the %

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probably angry keystones

dry spear
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yeah. thank you. i will look it up.

granite anvil
ionic fern
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Never really got behind that one. Seemed wonky. but it's definitely a possibility as well jeah.

plush saffron
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just hot key MDT and you can bring it up on the fly

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allows you to make quick adjustments as well for quick maffs

smoky wave
plush saffron
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of course

fiery gust
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yo

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are there specific dungeons i should switch up my soulbinds and talents for?

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or just same talent setup for all

ionic fern
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I use same things for everything.

mossy peak
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less about which dungeon, more about which level of key

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and how buttblasted you expect to be

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i imagine the wall is still the pick in a sufficiently high enough key, but i'm not there, so beats me

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i know you said talents but theres talents tied to legendary use

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bundle package

gentle oak
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Warriors!
I be havin' some problems with keepin' aggro. And I'm not talking about the normal problems like I need more ilvl, or I'm not pressing all the buttons.
I'm a necrolord warrior, so not only do I not have an extra button to press to generate aggro, but I actively make my party do more damage (I'm doing the same to me, but it's diminished, becase 400 mastery on dps vs 400 mastery on tank is a quite different matter).

Any ideas on how to improve on that? I'm 215 atm, the warrior is 13 days old, so there surely is a room to improve

jagged pier
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logs?

mossy peak
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are you using reprisal

gentle oak
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from m+?

jagged pier
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yes

gentle oak
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oh, no I'm using wall

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reprisal from next week onward

mossy peak
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assuming you are talking m+, reprisal alone should help significantly

jagged pier
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it will help but being necro should make him loose damage as he gets a massive strength buff when he uses banner

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so the extra damage on the dps shouldnt matter

mossy peak
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reprisal gives snap threat immediately

gentle oak
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yeah but it's still I'm doing like 9k dps and the mage is pulling 60k dps xD

crimson orbit
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Anyone know if Spear of Bastion can prevent stichflesh escaping?

jagged pier
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this is why im asking for logs

gentle oak
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I will log my runs today

jagged pier
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9k seems low tbh

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ive seen like 15k on aoe

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before reprisal

gentle oak
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as I said, the warrior is a little short of two weeks old, and so is my experience 😄

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I will log my runs and return here

blazing condor
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thatd be dope lol

ionic fern
wet compass
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then keybind the macro

plush saffron
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or just keybind MDT

jagged pier
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just memorize every route and every variation if there are body pulls

novel lotus
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^ Big True

graceful pewter
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Hey can someone help me through layer 3 of twisting corridors? The first 6 floors of upper reaches. I need the reprisal legendary. NA servers.

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I'll pay u back with a bit of zul'jin gold on NA or I can help carry ur alts or something thru M+

halcyon fable
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i can help ya out if youre alliance

graceful pewter
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Fak. Forgot about factions. I'm horde

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I'm having a lot of fun though playing prot warrior Just don't have my legendary yet

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or any legendary period. :(

hardy stratus
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Anyone tried this weakaura https://wago.io/twT6CzqdD ? Is it effective?

  • Adds pull indicators to nameplates based on the current MDT pull - Will also automatically move on to the next pull wh
lime urchin
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Use it as an extra helping thing, not to trust on blindly

hardy stratus
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Thanks!

sick sentinel
sweet summit
sick sentinel
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Because I'd always get confused what I needed to pull in bfa m÷, end up pulling mot enough or too much just trying to eyeball pull count

jagged pier
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this is why i advocate to make your own routes so u know what your gunna pull

sick sentinel
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It's fine honestly the best I did so far is 8 spires and subs gone

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Break til it's worth playing

lime urchin
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Even when doing mah own routes

jagged pier
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yer thats a fair enough point can argue i do get pissed when theres a body and i have to open MDT and change it on the fly

surreal sinew
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has anyone tried kitting the add on mythic council with the leaper?

inland raft
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I like to make mental checkpoints in dungeons at various spots and know what percent should be at, that way if brain fart and over or underpull can just make adjustments based on how off by

jagged pier
jagged pier
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also think with changes u dont need to kite anymore

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preety sure i was talking to someone the other day and they dont kite for the first half of the last boss at least

glacial ivy
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Soz we are no lunger running storm bolt bolster and booming?

jagged pier
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depends on the content what leggo

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etc etc

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can you be more specific in the case u want to know about?

wanton condor
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Storm Bolt: dungeon dependent
Booming: entirely up to player choice
Bolster: do you need the extra CD?

glacial ivy
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I mean anger is good

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But sometimes

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That cd saves ur ass

jagged pier
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but with reprisal you should have SB up already

glacial ivy
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Yeah ik

lofty widget
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running AM should "save" you as well since you have wall up a lot more often

jagged pier
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u have SW up less than with the wall

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but its only slightly less

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like 30sec longer cd

glacial ivy
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But its broken

lofty widget
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yeah, but more often than bolster with reprisal

jagged pier
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no its about the same

glacial ivy
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Yeah i see

jagged pier
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as bolster LS is 2 mins

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SW is around 2 mins with AM andc conduit

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with repirsal

lofty widget
#

the way i see it reprisal lets you run budget wall and AM + big block uptime

jagged pier
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yer its way better

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like 20-30% more blocked hits + more avatars + nearly the same amount of SW's is far better

glacial ivy
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I see

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Also having 2 charges

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With double time

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Is kind broken

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You just cant lose sb

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In which dung would you go for sb

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Instead of double time

jagged pier
#

u dont need to run DT

wanton condor
#

SoA/ToP are stormbolt dungeons

jagged pier
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its harder to play if u run DT as u have to make sure your charge is on cd

lofty widget
#

i run bolt in all dungeons tbh, i find that i ca nreach 80-85 % blocked hits without DT and the extra stun really saves shit

surreal sinew
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we don't kite everything

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but in the end he always seems to be caught up

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i mainly wanted proof that he just step up and that there's no way it should become my problem ^^

elfin nova
#

I'm pretty sure a warrior can do it without the leaper

jagged pier
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my DH had no problems kiting tbh

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expect onces he took the lock portal back into it

elfin nova
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With some intervene/charge shenanigans

sweet summit
#

do you kite it with the nerfs now even?

jagged pier
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i dont think so

surreal sinew
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the last one yeah

elfin nova
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You still might as well kite the 50-0 one

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Either that or tank it and live

sweet summit
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i havent done council in a very very long time so idk

sweet thorn
#

can someone give a warrior newbie a quick overview on what to skill now as kyrian prot?

sweet summit
#

talents you mean?

sweet thorn
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yea talents, sorry ^^

sweet summit
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for m+?

sweet thorn
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yup

sweet summit
#

with the reprisal legendary you run this

sweet thorn
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thast the one that grants block and revenge when charging right?

sweet summit
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yeah

sweet thorn
#

awesome, thanks a lot !

craggy pagoda
#

Small question. Im a fury who tanks weekly m+ for the vault and such. Ive changed to Nightfae like yesterday or something, Ive noticed that when i change to prot sometimes, not always my hp pool doesnt change to the normal 60k+ hp and stays at 40k. Is this a known bug or could it be my UI?

stray gazelle
craggy pagoda
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I only found it strange cause my stamina itself didnt update one time. But it could be Elvui stuff indeed. Thanks for the help 🙂

restive wigeon
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îmo double time is still the best t2 talent

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leap out of pack > charge back in to get another reprisal proc

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feels irreplacable to me

sweet summit
#

after playing abit with reprisal, you definitely do not need it
storm bolt is much more valuable

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but its fine to play DT

sweet thorn
#

is it still possible to farm legendarys via twisting corridors?

jagged pier
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if u have layer 3 unlocked

surreal sinew
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no

jagged pier
#

yer

surreal sinew
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you get some ash from the initial quest

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and that's it

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the rest is cosmetic

sweet summit
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lego recipies, not ash yep

surreal sinew
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oh i misunderstood mb

dry geyser
#

has anyone switched necro recently? I'm kyrian currently but I'm getting a little pressure from our raid team for some banners

surreal sinew
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i wouldn't

sweet summit
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ye i swapped a week ago ish

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whats up

surreal sinew
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i'm starting to hate some people

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because of banner

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play what you want to honnestly

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you raid won't see a massive dps gain from it

jagged pier
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its literally a couple 100 dps on 2 classes

lime urchin
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And only if played really correctly

surreal sinew
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yeah, it's sweet if you do 2s or 3s with a ret

restive wigeon
#

it feels okay

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they shouldve left it at 500 tho

surreal sinew
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only reason i haven't gone back to vent

jagged pier
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it was never at 500 the patch note were always 400

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data mining was 500

lime urchin
#

I am only considering switching to necro because I love their home base.

tiny notch
#

I just got kicked from a Random Dungeon group (level 55) because I wasn't Venthyr Tanking in HoA.

I didn't realise at level 55 it made such a huge difference ....... 🤣

sweet summit
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LOL

surreal sinew
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people are insane

dry geyser
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yeah the necro aesthetic definitely vibes wih me more than kyrian. But kyrian potion, so useful

sick sentinel
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Necro currently and I like fleshcraft more than I care about the banner. I also have had bad luck and don't have scale or sire trinket so it's nice to have an extra defensive. Once I get a trinket I might switch

glacial ivy
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Which enchant cloak u use

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Speed or avoidance

#

?

surreal sinew
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fleshcraft is really nice now for sure

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pairs up even better if have sacle 😄

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i'm running speed, i don't think either would have a huge impact regardless although you should see some dmg reduction improvement with avoidance

arctic wasp
#

does avoidance reduces the dmg you take from skills like diabolical doom from millhouse, where there is like unavoidable dmg and no real area in the floor ?

surreal sinew
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it should i think, but the best way to check is look at pets or hunter turtle seeing as it's basically avoidance at 100%

orchid frigate
#

is it really a bad idea to save some % till after last boss in NW?

surreal sinew
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(diabolical doom should'nt tick more than once or twice really too)

orchid frigate
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to skip pride

surreal sinew
#

only ever skipped it on some high-ish keys (18/19) when there were no cds and we would have probably wiped on it

sleek echo
#

Quick question gents, the add on mythic council when doing niklaus last, with proper cooldown management should that feller be facetankable? or is it just agreed upon that we kite

sweet summit
surreal sinew
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you can face it now, it just can't stay up forever

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my guild is kitting the last add and we're pretty close, the others we kill

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just looked at some guys who did with the leaper so there's that too, bonus points for the meme

sleek echo
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i feel i can do it as long as i have at least one major cd or minor cd+external, otherwise im getting hit for 40k+ through SB which is no fun 😦

blazing condor
#

honestly leaper not half bad there

surreal sinew
#

while rotating external cds? also the tank with nik should know you can reset the stacks with bop so he should need fewer cds

sleek echo
#

is bubble taunt long enough to reset stacks also? like if for the last add we wanna kite forever, can bop off stacks at like 4? is that enough time to kill it at that point XD

surreal sinew
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i've been calling bop removing it instantly and taunting back

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around 5/6

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the last add someone just has to run circles around the romm without getting meleed

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think Sun King trinket even on normal is big there

sleek echo
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hmm, that sounds good to me, it would make sense for my co dh tank to kite the add, but he can be a bit pepega at times XD, how easy is it for warr to kite? leap, portal, intervene, priest grips? might be enough?

surreal sinew
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i've been having the same issue man ^^

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was wondering at using leaper, but i really think it's easier for a dh, plus they have at least one cheat death, two with the trinket

sleek echo
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usually his cheat deaths are used by last phase 🐒

surreal sinew
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towards 8.30 he starts kitting the last add

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they shouldn't

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if they are that's a problem

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(the log i linked is playing leaper)

sleek echo
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yerppp. well tyfor help xx

surreal sinew
#

nw, been hitting me head against that wall for ten days now ^^

signal plover
#

Most issues in P3 council (nik last) usually flow down from slow target switching and bad recital movement.

sleek echo
#

for sure, we were having too many deaths to recital in the last phase

surreal sinew
#

there's potential bad combo where you get recital and kb at the same time which makes it really important to have the raid always stacked too

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had a few instant wipes on that

pallid helm
#

is reprisal legendary power dropping from twisted corridors too?

surreal sinew
#

if it drops from a torgast add you should be able to bump into in the corridors

uneven mason
pallid helm
#

thank you guys

crisp dragon
#

I just wanna say to the usuals in here

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I love you guys

sweet summit
#

i love u too peepoHappy

crisp dragon
#

I just tried getting advice on the BDK channel, I got roasted

sweet summit
#

lmao get rekt

crisp dragon
wanton condor
#

hope you hit DS afterwards to heal

tardy parcel
#

hahaha

crisp dragon
#

They were very cruel sadge

plush tendon
#

KEK

strong forum
#

Even the bdks

light thicket
#

Depending on what you say here you can get roasted as well

crisp dragon
#

I thought it would be fun to try a different style of tanking

tardy parcel
#

your first mistake was assuming that WoW is fun

light thicket
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And that wow communities are nice

tardy parcel
#

i am sorry to hear that happened to you though, that's no good

uneven mason
#

So they tend to be bitter and toxic.

crisp dragon
#

I'm just gonna go back and enjoy some Prot warrior Detective

uneven mason
#

TBH BDK plays very similar to prot war

uneven mason
#

No, you resemble that.

plush tendon
#

: ^)

sweet summit
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i remember i asked for help in bdk discord once, and they started roasting my co tank instead sadge

strong forum
#

Fuck your cotank!

sweet summit
uneven mason
#

What I mean is that BDK requires preplanning now, proper use of runic power is very akin to our preemptive rage gain/spend and CD use based on incoming damage, its just that we act immediately before damage happens and they act immediately after.

jagged pier
#

i bent mine to my will on sludgefist

ionic fern
#

Only tank m+.
Who needs a co-tank.

light thicket
uneven mason
ionic fern
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No.

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Trees are a DPS loss.

wanton condor
#

friendship ended with trees. earth elemental best friend now

uneven mason
#

📈

wanton condor
#

deeptremor stonks

uneven mason
#

finally got my alt shm his

light thicket
#

You can always let the retri paladin popping all cds on pull give it a shot

ionic fern
#

I don't need reputation anymore for allied races right?

light thicket
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See how much he lasts

wanton condor
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nope

modern brook
wanton condor
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I ground out allied rep right before the prepatch like a fool even

modern brook
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THey tell you in the embassay what you need for each

ionic fern
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Okay.

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I'm trying to get allied races on horde side

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So i can faction change.

sweet summit
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POG

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POG

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POG

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POG

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POG

uneven mason
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only took uh..letsee at had to gain 12000 rep... 20~ runs?

modern brook
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one of my friends who literally just started playing 2 weeks ago already unlocked high mountain tauren and vulpera just by leveling

sweet summit
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wait are you going vulpera mwahi :(

ionic fern
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Idk. Probably not.

modern brook
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hes going green orc

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obviously

light thicket
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Mwahi furry persona incoming?

wanton condor
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yeah, doing legion and bfa will unlock the campaign races

ionic fern
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Then again..i am only tanking m+.

vague jetty
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Because they took away the rep portion of it

wanton condor
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the post patch ones are the annoyances

ionic fern
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I will just see what the least played race is on horde

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And go that.

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My bet is ....pandas.

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Or goblins

wanton condor
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ZT, KT, VE, etc

modern brook
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LOL monks

light thicket
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Havent seen a nightborne in a while

jagged pier
modern brook
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good ol' monk race

ionic fern
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I got tired of being alliance and having 5 +19 keys and like 2 +20 keys.

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#Puglife

sweet summit
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nightborne peepodrive

modern brook
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The only problem with going panda Mwahi is that you're giving up the ABSOLUTE SWAG of playing 2hander monk by being a prot warrior

wanton condor
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HM or nightborne I'd guess?

modern brook
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for warrior its 100% nightborne

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Nightborne cant even beat belf on specs its racials re good for lol

jagged pier
wanton condor
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too many legacy gobbos

light thicket
ionic fern
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Lets be honest..i'm going to choose the one that has the best transmog potential.

sweet summit
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nightborne is so dogshit its insane

ionic fern
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Who cares about racials, smh

modern brook
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so GREEN ORC

ionic fern
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Everyone knows the only racial is Dwarf Racial.

hot oxide
ionic fern
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And NE racial.

jagged pier
ionic fern
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The rest are w/e

modern brook
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straight liars

ionic fern
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WDYM:
Obviously Goblin

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So i can SoulShape + Charge. Gobling jump + charge. Heroic leap + charge

orchid frigate
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spare meat hook anything useful?

sweet summit
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honestly female troll mogs 📈

modern brook
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ZZ

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no shoes kills em imo

ionic fern
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I don't like playing females. 😒

sweet summit
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you dont have to look at the feet tho:/

light thicket
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Mwahi dreaming of the day the azeroth olympics begin

surreal sinew
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vulpera means i no longer have to care about mogs

modern brook
surreal sinew
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it's huge gold savings

sweet summit
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????????????????

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questionmark

plush tendon
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Trolls are a bad choice, cause they dont wear shoes, and you want shoes

hot oxide
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i wanted a night bourne warr

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but ugh

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nightborne*

light thicket
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HM tauren all da way

sweet egret
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zug zug orc

hot oxide
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my first was zandar troll

modern brook
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they ruined nightborne by making every single character option "old grandma/pa"

uneven mason
hot oxide
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now, i think i would do a vulpera

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kul tiran on ally side, no questions

light thicket
uneven mason
light thicket
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And posting it everywhere

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Just FYI

modern brook
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Nah u gotta do lightforged draeni so you can use the suicide toy in world pvp and kill people leveling