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Or aomething like that
First time you bloodthirst a thing you enrage for sure?
Did i missread a talent?
^
Well that wouldve been nice info to have
indeed.
Fury is legit prob the easiest DPS spec in the game once you get used to the pace
except for havoc
but who the hell plays havoc
"I Have 2 buttons and a 1min CD hurrrr"
You gotta smash the fucking keyboard
Bro its sloooooowwwww
DONE! KSM DONE 😄 Finally 😄 party
its GCD locked but not a agi GCD capped spec?
I want my 25% haste enrage back
Gurtz Bukama
x10000
Why did they gut our enrage
"people decided it was too fast"
"Who are these people are why are they 190 years old"
legit slower than WW havoc and Feral
"too fast"
Ppl who enjoy hard casting chaos bolt i guess
or pyroblast
To the NF Prot warriors, do you find it difficult to line up your Ancient Aftershock with the majority of bosses and their movement in CN? Trying to work out whether to switch to Kyrian or NF with great difficulty.
No not even close
No
Bosses hitboxes are huge
most will stand still for quite some time
only sire moves around a big amount
and during that time period you're really focused on cleaving the adds anyway
rather, sire can stand still if you don't get massacre lines
Like, IDK what bosses move around a lot?
Still working on that one
So I imagine it's a massive dps advantage over spear then? The WowHead guide seems to suggest that Kyrian would be better for raiding due to boss mechanics/movement, but if you guys find it easy, then surely NF would be superior?
Suppose it's potion too
Also your job as a tank is to keep things in one spot
Yeah you ain't wrong there
Unless you're mad at your melee
in which case watch for the rampage casts and then leap out
Most bosses just chill, trying to think of the exceptions... sun king I guess
Don't saaaaaay that, it's making my decision even harder 😂
how long does AA even last? it's not forever
welcome to warriors, I know, its strange to have options
12s
but the
are in the cast
I've had crits near 30k off of it
Do ya simp for the blue furries or the blue angels? Smfh
Yeah, I learnt that the ultimate simps are now the banner boys
Like the soulbinds in NF aren't even defensive
you take the pumping setup
crit and +dmg or big self mastery and BURRRZZZZZZZZ
Burrz does look good
its tasty
nice passive damage
procs a lot
Uh oh I must've said something stupid enough to bring Mwahi down
Was a misclick. Mixed up work keyboard and non work keyboard. 😦
So that's how I really made my mind up for NF
Oh and the fact I dont have to do any dancing for the mastery
just pick the one with the coolest vibes and make it work
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I am actually currently locked out of Kyrian due to changing before. I might just switch to NF to try whilst I wait.
Do it.
Mwahi is just prowling waiting for someone to say they play NS in mithyc CN or something
Then you can run the 5 NF dreamteam.
To jump to their throats
Pelagos's balls are on par with the Macabre trinket IMO
lmao
They're actually so annoying
It's the NA times i have to look out for ngl. They are wild.
Why thats part of Mwahi's BiS talent build
I heard weird things happen in Ardenweald after mid-night tho
its always midnight in Ardenweald
This probably means you are the one doing the weird things.
👀
Got me there
If furries wanna behave like animals they should be treated as such
Wheres my 12 gauge?
👀
Me when ever i see a bear tank:
"AGH..another one escaped the zoo"
Good thing i'm alliance otherwise there would be vulpins everywhere
Tru
Yea you just get the furry uwu master race
Worgen
Dwarves by volume have more fur
How do you know that?
I don't think i've seen a single WOrgen.

Science
Ye but you dont get to have the buffed cow friends
I ran worgen for 1 month when I was alliance back at the start of BFA, because sprint...swapped to DiD instant they were available.
me always missing being tauren
And you have the nerve to call me a furry smh
Ban him
just for you griff 🙂
Ikari you did this
What I'm just posting Griff's favorite art
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
yo guys
Fuckin degens from upcountry I swear
yes
wait you are reeing at elmo burning the world now?
great
you just have to learn the new "covenant" conduit
no he's REEEEING at me calling him a furry
I mean if he plays a worgen ....
I dont
That was when I was younger
that's worse

I won't be insulted by someone who actually played worgen unironically
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Came for the cov advice, stayed for the character assassination
But you just were!
you are playing panda ironically?
Picked a hell of a time to pop in tbh
Yea because the animations are BiS
eh I'm sorry griff, panda is legit
Dude back there asking a serious question
10/10 would visit again
Among all the furry wars
yeah 2nd only to Femorc
griff's workplace camera
Excellent image for the server
ok ok drop it
Lol
But, yeah Panda has some amazing animations, except for running
like 2inch legs
IDK
yeah but belf
Looks horrible
you monster
........
Why I can't play DH
that's a fetish ikari and kind of a gross one
That's why you play female panda and then that's not even an issue


Hey guys, looking to prep a prot warr for m+. Is haste vers still best for prot warr? Im thinking getting pvp gear (2100 rbgs) as arms warr as kyrian then swapping to necro for prot. Any suggestions?
don't swap to necro
haste is godly
Haste vers is still good fuck necro
and yeah ilvl > haste > vers
Overhyped
yeah, just don't go too far out of your way for haste, almost all ilvl upgrades are good
Underperform
Why you do this 😭 I like me banner
necro transmog never underperforms 
also no reason to swap to necro unless you are running wf level keys
This man is legit
It's a shame that doesnt transfer to numbers
banner's fine, people were just acting like it would be required to exist and it's not lol

Ok, so necro is overrated, then kyrian for pvp (arms) & m+ (prot)?
Plka is and isn't angry, just disappointed with NL
Whats the number when diminishing returns kicks in for haste?
Every key i do is WF, cause I live in my own world
An amount you dont need to worry about at the moment

play what you enjoy playing. They're all fairly close. But Kyrian is strong for everything and has great utility
Nice
Kyrian is boring, if you won’t take the banner, at least take AA
aa?
night fae, ancient aftershock
nf ability
Ancient aftershock

do all the damages
alcoholics anonymous
or
FS and Burrs are 2 diff soulbines
😄
yeah I know
k, whats go to leggo for arms in pvp ? sry for asking as this is protection tab
No clue
i was doing some keys last night, revenge wasn't my top dam 😮
it was shield slam, then kyrian spear, then revenge
Probably one that makes mortal strike hurt more or something
Alrighty, so apart from being a haven for the furries, it's fair to say that NF does better dps in both M+ AND raids over Kyrian then? Seems like Kyrian potion is the only other thing to consider for me
the spear is a huge amount of overall damage, not sure if any of the other covenant abilities can beat it
Exploiter for venthyr, else Battlelord for general use. Unhinged is good against melee cleaves but Battlelord is strong period
jinx
I am the jinx
AA slaps just as hard
but is hard capped
spear has scaling damage above 5
iirc
thanks !
All memes aside, spear is good and also makes you kyrian (which there aren’t a lot of).
AA will knock enemies down ever y3s
for 12s
yeah biggest reason, aside from slapping for 25k +
is some of those big ouch casts.
non DR interrpt
Everytime i do the killer dos packs i wish i was nf
The only way I leave necro, if there’s a mass exodus of NF dps players
that's not going to happen probably
Me want my haste from PF and 10% vers from ToP
urns in DoS
omnomnom
but theres alwaysa NF
like not having a NF in your party is near impossible
NL and Kyrian rarest I think
Yea, I ain’t channeling a urn
IMO spears from SoA and orbs from NW > pf hastse and 10% verse in top
also Necro shammies are easy to find
Never see enough shamans yet
alot priest rolled to nf already
Yeah, if AA and spear's damage are comparable, this might be the reason I just pick kyrian
b
I also prefer big dick h pals
More furys are NF than arms i think
he meants venthyr
Gotta get the mages, locks, hunters away from Night Fae
I think with how common it is to find NFs I may swap back to Kyrian
after raid tonight
¯_(ツ)_/¯
kyrian's usually just any tank or retri/hpals
Idk I really liked kyrian zone the most
I abhor the Xmog
swaped to venthyr for raid but since im proggin on boomy anyway think I can go back kyrain to tank some keys for fun
but I'm also so sick of ardenweald
To be fair, you don’t need to be kyrian if you run with a ww
Might as well, 5% more damage 🙂
I hate everything about ardenwald except covoke lol
ust the soulbinds for Kyrian are very blech
just unfort for us that hunters and monks are now back to dog tier
I also just found out today you can name your owl
No, like they can have a name
even if they're the tiny one
the owltreatment
Though I do love the kyrian buff in NW, even if it’s overkill; kills first pride Uber quick, pull trash on first boss and watch it all melt
And then yell at your range to get in melee for big deeps
Wait
What was the PF necro buff?
on the boss
Sometimes I use it, sometimes I save it
@restive wigeon I also went the creative way and called my druid Uranus The Faceless One
Like, TYrannical you want spears on 2nd boss
altho he's less cancer
since the big nerfs
I remember we went up to the necropolis with like 3 spears, 2 hammers and 1 orb
"OH add won't spawn in bumblefuck anymore"
idk we always use spear + hammer on 2nd 3rd and 4th boss
Now that was a fun time
legit did that on my first +10 on NW
soon as Stichflesh came down
he dropped
Naw, we use it for big trash pulls
why to its capped
ah, I had flipperhands
depends how big you pull
Also, keeping axe throwers alive big plays
which have harder times with bosses
Gotta pull big in NW, not for time, but because you can XD
We do save a weapon or two for last boss on tyrannical; one dps even saved a spear and hammer after he got the crit buff XD
my last 3 runs
as dps anyway so I cant controll the pulls
but tyran spear boss is huge
with hammer on top
Huge boss dam, but can also be huge trash dam if you do em together
yeah last boss you wanna sit on them until he puts up the frost shield
that thing fucking hurts on tyrannical
mebbie spear will blast out his shield in 1 go tho
but I guess you dont have them on pull alot because 3rd boss takes like 20seconds
is there a consistency problem with the 3rd boss in SD and reflecting her explosion spell?
Lust+pride+spear+kyrian buff
you reflect the DoT, no the kaboom iirc
*deflect
aw ok ty
we just usually keep mages on 2nd in trap / cyclone / poly etc
so they are not annoing af
deflect, so no
L
Shattering throw ftw
Nah but i use it just cause im happy to have it back
yup I get ya
Fucking paladins
I was sad when I saw "does not work on bosses"
in the torghast anima powers.
like WTF fun detected
4000% dmg
kills normal mobs
Wasnt it like 10k
who gives a crap about normal mobs
used to 1 shot bosses
because you'd stack it with the 200% from charge and 120% from shouts +20% avatar and 20% BV
they've since nerfed the charge bonus
and iirc the shouts only stakc to 3 not 4
Im all about that leaper build now
that EQ DoT
yeah
was fun
add that to leaper
and I'll legit run keys using it
"Other tanks jump out of danger"
"Warriors crush them like its Mario Brothers!"
Jumping around more than vdhs
@strong forum F
has anyone that switched to necrolord experienced this bug?
not sure why its 8/9 though
indie game
got the last charge and missed executes to never rank 1 D:
Bruhs, i just signed up for this discord! what is the preffered covenant for prot warrior?
All of them are good at different things as of 9.0.5. Kyrian and Night Fae are ideal for general-use prot covenants. Venthyr is great if you plan to dps as Fury or Arms as well. Necro is good if you can coordinate with dps who benefit from the banner.
Also you should check the pinned messages for extra info on all things prot warrior
thanks my man
i hate council
i know
i hate it
im just saying
i hate council
i love it
when LITERALLY FIRST PULL OF TGHE DAY is the best pull
every week
if i had a quarter for every shitter fucking mage that depletes a key bc he tries to meter whore and not combust on prides, id be a fucking billionaire
it blows my mind
@shell hare i had the same thing when i went NF, it fixed itself for me when i waited a few days and an extra calling randomly appeared
its a fucking 1 min cd
4 billion is a lot of mages
Anybody got a macro for charge / intervene?
#showtooltip Charge
/cast Intervene [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene; Intervene
/cast Charge [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge; Charge
Are we crafting Reprisal on Boots due to SLG Pants?
Literally didnt check i asked for it after that meh, my warlocks and dps whores so 🤷
Doesnt matter to me that much tbh
Wasnt taking much damage
It’s like 1k less dps
ty
Be cool if we could dps enough for me to get full execute window on 4th pillar
13 Theatre of Pain runs this reset, but I finally got new shoulders! \o/
Gzgz
first strike for m+
Absolutely
Nice, literally the only dungeon item I'm still looking for lol
About to hit 60 with my prot warrior, night fae or Kyrian for m+. Mastery is no good for my group by the pinned spreadsheet
Either one, kyrian a little safer, night fae a little more damage
just whichever tickles your fancy
that's an argument for going kyrian, they're just rarer so your dungeon mechanic will be in more demand
I picked venthyr back when SL came out, it is lacking during leveling
Can't wait to change it
anyone changing to necrolord? or have been? how much better is the absorb shell every 2min over the phial? thank you
ive been playing necro for this week but im only 190 ilvl. Id say that phial is probably a bit better for times when the dispel is great. Necro seems like a great choice in more organized group play
i like necro regardless of pug vs organized, I feel like conq is just a real "prot warrior"ability
starting to bring my warrior into m+ ... and oh boy getting threat feels painful.
Craft Reprisal
having ravager on every pull feels essential
in my expierence, using heroic throw/taunt/thunder clap before shield slam helps a lot
Have you considered revenging more
I alternate ravager and spear usually
Also charge revenge with Reprisal and bsc
Gets you a lotta threat
Leap to reset taunt helps in a pinch
ye need reprisel. dont have it yet, since its my alt
Charge revenge Tclap intervene revenge is such a good burst of threat
Changed a week ago and now Im planning to swap back to Kyrian. Didn't like the way the channel feels and im not really down with the soulbinds either. Plus i really like the phial which helps out in A LOT of situations.
Also, Kleia is bae.
the channel feels great if you get the soulbind to allow you to move and channel
I'll never switch off Kyrian because I love my owl buddy
I wish Bron didn't knockback or I'd love Mikanikos
Just make it a damn knockdown
Uncontrollable random knockback is such a deal breaker
im kyrian on my main and felt like changing it up and trying somethin new on my warrior and i think necro is a good experimental covenant
I tried searching on google but couldnt find any info, how do absorbs like the blood trinket and necro shield work with ignore pain?
Quick probably over asked question, do we use BSC with repirsal?
M+, Thunderlord still bis or is Reprisal now king with the change?
I switched to necro from kyrian. Not good when you pug. Switched to night fae. Love it more than kyrian
Reprisal is bis
Thunderlord is not even in consideration I think lol
thanks all!
What's the go to covernant for m+? Kyrian or nf?
Either, they basically perform the same
Guess kyrian potion helps a bit more tho? Example next weeks necrotic?
what slot do you craft reprisal in, and haste vers or crit haste?
how do you use reprisal in raids? specifically how do you fish for charges
i really can't decide haha, they both seem pretty neat for prot, but nf is also good for fury :b
If you play fury then go nf, good in both single target and aoe
Night fae is also nice bc of soulshape, more mobility, tho the pot is really nice for prot to clear bleeds
hey guys looking for Night fae prot warrior tree and conduit outline where is it pinned
any tips for tanking SLG? grabbing the all the skirmishers feels harder than it should be.
Niya, go left side all the way down. Destructive reverbiration, brutal vitality & stalwart guardian is what I’m playing with. Can take swift patrol if you’re playing m+ to get extra movement speed between packs
challenging shout
just heroic throw them as they come down too
sometimes they get pretty fixated on healers, pallies in particular
just taunt those
Is necrolord a thing you should go for, if you are looking to both raidtank, and do mythic+. Or is it still just kyrian?
the bad thing about discord is having to read the same question every 10 minutes
NL is viable especially if you buff certain specs (Fire Mage, Boomkin and some others), people still like Kyrian the best, NF is also good and more dpsy
9.1 is still a bit away, but im getting a tank spot on our mythic raiding team, and i just want to Know what you guys would go for
@astral crystal challenging shout isnt even that helpful they all trickle in
it is helpful, like i said, just heroic throw them when they land, it's huge aggro
it depends on their landing order rng
and location, but i always use challenging to grab em when it's blast time
just had a question about prot warr tanking for m+ and raid... necrolord buff confused me on the what u should be going factor for pve is it necro now? kyrian?
kyrian would be a good all around option. necro is for simps who want to be a buff bot
do you phantom fire or sprectal strength for M plus as prot warrior typically
think you just gotta sim it... i bought a big stack of weightstones and strength pots and will reevaluate when i run out
when do i switch from BV to BSC?
What is everyone using for their conduit slots this week?
@north copper when you use reprisal
Oh damn ok
will i regret swapping to kyrian or necro from nightfae? I feel like the nightfae ability just doesn't feel great to play with in M+
Play what you want.
Kyrian for pugs necro if you play with mage boomy in regular group, but nf is amazing in keys not sure what your not liking about it, so many stuns
There’s no correct answer.
I'm pretty new maybe I'm just not using it right
Are there mobs? Press the button
Necro has the potential to be best in certain somewhat organized groups, NF is the solo-pumper choice for tank damage, Kyrian gives you a free heal that removes poisons and bleeds, Venthyr gives you on demand ST damage.
There really isn’t a single one that’s a bad choice
Pick one for aesthetics
Shit doesn’t matter at all.
The one you enjoy the most will be the one you perform the best on
@loud otter you're probably just experiencing fomo. Honestly, all the Warrior covenants are essentially the same thing while feeling slightly different
Hmm I think you're right. I think I'll stick with NF. I have invested too much in my garden
THe content that really matters
The process to switch/switch back is extremely simple and straight forward. Experiment. I'm on my 3rd covenant in the past 8 days
So Kyrian is still optimal? Or Draven/Maldraxus catched up a bit?
i just got around to starting keys this past week and ive tanked everything over 10 as venthyr. It feels fine but im gonna be sadge next week for necrotic without kyrian vial when i go for KSM clears
if you arent doing like super high keys i dont think it really matters
like at all
Don’t think it really matters period. Not sure if Plka is still the rank 1 r.io prot, but he got that spot playing venthyr the whole way.
Still rank one but has since swapped to necro

unless banner shoots out aoe condemns, not worth
Just what I thought, been vent since start, RL is pushing me for necro/kyrian for raid progress, since I became main tank, but I just don't see a point
where's your guild at in the raid?
What would be the difference between upgrading necrotic wake and mists weapon?
very small
slightly more haste on the NW which is nice
but the actual secondary stats are small on weapons
I have the mists weapon and not sure if to upgrade it now or try for necrotic then upgrade that
i'd probably just upgrade the one you have and eventually replace it with a 226 from vault
hunting one specific piece of gear can be frustrating
true, its 207 but still tempted so I dont have to farm
well atleast I'll do it after vault
If I run torghast as prot do i also get the memories for arms and fury or do i have to do it in those respective specs?
you get them for all specs as prot
ngl that verse looks juicy
We had some issues and just killed Shriek on M and started Huntsman
Lmaooooo
And hes trying to push you into a specific covenant
Hahahhaa
Venthyr is actually really good for raid tanking anyways
my only issue with venthyr as a raid tank is justifying that rage spend on a condemn from 100-80%, plus its only a flat dam reduction. op for execute phase tho
literally no point if you switch
venth is already good
Wdym justifying it lol
Just ignore IP when you can condemn
i guess, I do want to try it. maybe I am overly defensive in raid idk
Condemn is IP but slightly worse defensively and league's better offensively
Just ignore IP when you can condemn on a boss
hmm maybe that is the play then. i've been itching to swap out of kyrian since we're on the last 3 of the raid now
it just felt greed to be venthyr, but if it's that close to an IP in value
still deciding which cov to go for m+ 
nice
Kyrian spear is juicy, can be #2 overall damage ability in M+, nice get out of jail free with kyrian pot too on necrotic and bleeds
yeah spear gains big value on those larger pulls for sure
Finally got aotc this week so got my 40% buff to spear conduit, loving it
Spent too much time getting sucked into pvp for duelist, now just getting into M+ pushing +15s since aotc is checked off, not a lot of playtime with the job this xpac, had to prioritize, lol
lul ion's guild reached slg and wants to reclear sludge I see
why are a majority of top raiderio. score prots palying wiht reprisal boots sitnead of legs? (nearly none of them have the 233 legs from raid)
cause (see pins)
probably im stupid but i did before and still dont see it?
Maybe I shouldn't write when I wake up in the middle of the night from an asthma attack
lol
Sorry
probably 2 reasons, they have access to Mythic SLG just havent had the drop yet or they are replacing their TL boots
Maybe they got legs already, and got the boots in case of double legendary later on
And soul ash won't be a problem? Iunno
Jakey is probably closer I think to the mark, the only other leg legendary is kind of potato right now
yep RL is a retard, he used like 20k worth of feasts on pulls where no one knew what to do
also even if you dont have current access to m slg, maybe you plan on killing it later
making the boots still potentially the longer term better choice
or you just had shitty boots and good legs and it was better immediately and in the long term to do boots
people grossly overstate the importance of getting legendaries in the right slot
I am fairly sure i have all my legendaries in the "wrong" spots ngl.
While there is a difference it's not big enough for me to bother with it.
Well that depends what slots. The difference between stats on shoulders versus neck are huge, whereas the difference between head and shoulders is much smaller, right?
on the other hand, your class/spec may have shoulders off of a final boss and no neck, or have poorly statted necks available in general
secondary stats are also distributed differently between slots, not just primary
a neck has over 200 secondary stat at 226, shoulders have 100
there are a lot of factors involved that wind up balancing it all pretty well
i'm not saying one option isn't better than another
just that the gap between these choices is often significantly smaller than people seem to think
Watch us have next tier mythic feet from raid and no legs.
So eeveryone who did Reprisal on feet (due to having mythic legs) is going to now do them on feet? 😂
also like, in terms of "the difference between stats on shoulders vs neck"
since you're clearly talking str
it's not about the amount of str on a 235
it's about the amount of str on a 235 compared to a 226
and the secondaries on the neck at 226 compared to a 235
it's not like you're suddenly losing 60 str by crafting the neck
you're losing 5
my the wall has 66 str, my regular 226s have 61
I wish I had the skill level playing M+ that this kind of min-max would actually benefit me
But I’m just a dirty pleb
Standing here in front of you in the rain
Casting intervene on cd
Same.
hey guys, when you pug a m+ grp how do you deal with the route? yesterday i pugged as a tank and the grp just pulled mobs. ran from grp to grp. and then, when i lost the route i had in my head i did a misspull and overpulled. so we had wrong %. and then they said "wow nice route..." nevermind, i just finished the key but i want to know how you adept to misspulls? do you have an addon with the % every mob gives you?
also i dont tank normaly so i need to learn those routes. is there an external site i can put on my 2nd monitor and watch it white tanking?
if it makes you feel any better, warriors of all flavors aren't in the level of keys where that kind of optimization would be possibly relevant
your class will stop you before your stats do
It will come with dungeon knowledge. if we mis-pull something then i will avoid pulling something of similar percentage later down the road.
Tho it might mess with pride timings which can be big on some keys.
My skill will stop me before class and stats will tbh
lemme look up the addon, i have one that shows mouseovers for %
but after a while you get it in your head anyway how much stuff is roughly worth
Also..the easiest way is to probably get the route from MDT - screen shot it and put the picture on second screen.
🙂
so without being too needly you can like
figure this extra pack was worth 7%
so in your head you think, well i'll skip this later pack that's about that much then
unfortunately prideful is the big sticking point for % and routes rn
it is extremely hostile to over pulls
that is quite a good idea lol.
orange is the new smart
yeah. thank you. i will look it up.
Might as well just use another Tool like keystone.guru for your Browser on your second screen.
Never really got behind that one. Seemed wonky. but it's definitely a possibility as well jeah.
just hot key MDT and you can bring it up on the fly
allows you to make quick adjustments as well for quick maffs
Second screen 😢
You..... You can hotkey it?!
of course
yo
are there specific dungeons i should switch up my soulbinds and talents for?
or just same talent setup for all
I use same things for everything.
less about which dungeon, more about which level of key
and how buttblasted you expect to be
i imagine the wall is still the pick in a sufficiently high enough key, but i'm not there, so beats me
i know you said talents but theres talents tied to legendary use
bundle package
that is also good. thank you
Warriors!
I be havin' some problems with keepin' aggro. And I'm not talking about the normal problems like I need more ilvl, or I'm not pressing all the buttons.
I'm a necrolord warrior, so not only do I not have an extra button to press to generate aggro, but I actively make my party do more damage (I'm doing the same to me, but it's diminished, becase 400 mastery on dps vs 400 mastery on tank is a quite different matter).
Any ideas on how to improve on that? I'm 215 atm, the warrior is 13 days old, so there surely is a room to improve
logs?
are you using reprisal
from m+?
yes
assuming you are talking m+, reprisal alone should help significantly
it will help but being necro should make him loose damage as he gets a massive strength buff when he uses banner
so the extra damage on the dps shouldnt matter
reprisal gives snap threat immediately
yeah but it's still I'm doing like 9k dps and the mage is pulling 60k dps xD
Anyone know if Spear of Bastion can prevent stichflesh escaping?
this is why im asking for logs
I will log my runs today
as I said, the warrior is a little short of two weeks old, and so is my experience 😄
I will log my runs and return here
It won't.
thatd be dope lol
Depends on the pull size.
in general the only time you should lose aggro on AoE is if they don't give you a few globals.
OR if they are ST combusting in a AoE pack.
just make a macro calling the addon string so /mdt in this case
then keybind the macro
or just keybind MDT
^ Big True
Hey can someone help me through layer 3 of twisting corridors? The first 6 floors of upper reaches. I need the reprisal legendary. NA servers.
I'll pay u back with a bit of zul'jin gold on NA or I can help carry ur alts or something thru M+
i can help ya out if youre alliance
Fak. Forgot about factions. I'm horde
I'm having a lot of fun though playing prot warrior Just don't have my legendary yet
or any legendary period. :(
Anyone tried this weakaura https://wago.io/twT6CzqdD ? Is it effective?
I use it, and it’s nice but sometimes it doesn’t work correctly
Use it as an extra helping thing, not to trust on blindly
Thanks!
I swear that I asked for something just like that some time ago
im using this https://wago.io/M+Timer and it has that feature built in. pretty accurate
Because I'd always get confused what I needed to pull in bfa m÷, end up pulling mot enough or too much just trying to eyeball pull count
this is why i advocate to make your own routes so u know what your gunna pull
It's fine honestly the best I did so far is 8 spires and subs gone
Break til it's worth playing
In my humble experience, in the heat of the moment I sometimes forget something and these little helping hands are nice
Even when doing mah own routes
yer thats a fair enough point can argue i do get pissed when theres a body and i have to open MDT and change it on the fly
has anyone tried kitting the add on mythic council with the leaper?
I like to make mental checkpoints in dungeons at various spots and know what percent should be at, that way if brain fart and over or underpull can just make adjustments based on how off by
there are ppl on logs u can go look at
whats your co tank tho?
also think with changes u dont need to kite anymore
preety sure i was talking to someone the other day and they dont kite for the first half of the last boss at least
Soz we are no lunger running storm bolt bolster and booming?
depends on the content what leggo
etc etc
can you be more specific in the case u want to know about?
Storm Bolt: dungeon dependent
Booming: entirely up to player choice
Bolster: do you need the extra CD?
but with reprisal you should have SB up already
Yeah ik
running AM should "save" you as well since you have wall up a lot more often
u have SW up less than with the wall
but its only slightly less
like 30sec longer cd
But its broken
yeah, but more often than bolster with reprisal
no its about the same
Yeah i see
the way i see it reprisal lets you run budget wall and AM + big block uptime
yer its way better
like 20-30% more blocked hits + more avatars + nearly the same amount of SW's is far better
I see
Also having 2 charges
With double time
Is kind broken
You just cant lose sb
In which dung would you go for sb
Instead of double time
u dont need to run DT
SoA/ToP are stormbolt dungeons
its harder to play if u run DT as u have to make sure your charge is on cd
i run bolt in all dungeons tbh, i find that i ca nreach 80-85 % blocked hits without DT and the extra stun really saves shit
a vdh but the lad is struggling like nothing i've ever seen
we don't kite everything
but in the end he always seems to be caught up
i mainly wanted proof that he just step up and that there's no way it should become my problem ^^
I'm pretty sure a warrior can do it without the leaper
With some intervene/charge shenanigans
do you kite it with the nerfs now even?
i dont think so
the last one yeah
i havent done council in a very very long time so idk
can someone give a warrior newbie a quick overview on what to skill now as kyrian prot?
talents you mean?
yea talents, sorry ^^
for m+?
yup
with the reprisal legendary you run this
thast the one that grants block and revenge when charging right?
yeah
awesome, thanks a lot !
Small question. Im a fury who tanks weekly m+ for the vault and such. Ive changed to Nightfae like yesterday or something, Ive noticed that when i change to prot sometimes, not always my hp pool doesnt change to the normal 60k+ hp and stays at 40k. Is this a known bug or could it be my UI?
Most likely could be UI I use xperl and it doesn’t update all the time it usually fix itself once I get in combat
I only found it strange cause my stamina itself didnt update one time. But it could be Elvui stuff indeed. Thanks for the help 🙂
îmo double time is still the best t2 talent
leap out of pack > charge back in to get another reprisal proc
feels irreplacable to me
after playing abit with reprisal, you definitely do not need it
storm bolt is much more valuable
but its fine to play DT
is it still possible to farm legendarys via twisting corridors?
if u have layer 3 unlocked
no
yer
lego recipies, not ash yep
oh i misunderstood mb
has anyone switched necro recently? I'm kyrian currently but I'm getting a little pressure from our raid team for some banners
i wouldn't
i'm starting to hate some people
because of banner
play what you want to honnestly
you raid won't see a massive dps gain from it
its literally a couple 100 dps on 2 classes
And only if played really correctly
yeah, it's sweet if you do 2s or 3s with a ret
only reason i haven't gone back to vent
I am only considering switching to necro because I love their home base.
I just got kicked from a Random Dungeon group (level 55) because I wasn't Venthyr Tanking in HoA.
I didn't realise at level 55 it made such a huge difference ....... 🤣
LOL
people are insane
yeah the necro aesthetic definitely vibes wih me more than kyrian. But kyrian potion, so useful
Necro currently and I like fleshcraft more than I care about the banner. I also have had bad luck and don't have scale or sire trinket so it's nice to have an extra defensive. Once I get a trinket I might switch
fleshcraft is really nice now for sure
pairs up even better if have sacle 😄
i'm running speed, i don't think either would have a huge impact regardless although you should see some dmg reduction improvement with avoidance
does avoidance reduces the dmg you take from skills like diabolical doom from millhouse, where there is like unavoidable dmg and no real area in the floor ?
it should i think, but the best way to check is look at pets or hunter turtle seeing as it's basically avoidance at 100%
is it really a bad idea to save some % till after last boss in NW?
(diabolical doom should'nt tick more than once or twice really too)
to skip pride
only ever skipped it on some high-ish keys (18/19) when there were no cds and we would have probably wiped on it
Quick question gents, the add on mythic council when doing niklaus last, with proper cooldown management should that feller be facetankable? or is it just agreed upon that we kite
Nah, just get pride imo
you can face it now, it just can't stay up forever
my guild is kitting the last add and we're pretty close, the others we kill
just looked at some guys who did with the leaper so there's that too, bonus points for the meme
i feel i can do it as long as i have at least one major cd or minor cd+external, otherwise im getting hit for 40k+ through SB which is no fun 😦
honestly leaper not half bad there
while rotating external cds? also the tank with nik should know you can reset the stacks with bop so he should need fewer cds
is bubble taunt long enough to reset stacks also? like if for the last add we wanna kite forever, can bop off stacks at like 4? is that enough time to kill it at that point XD
i've been calling bop removing it instantly and taunting back
around 5/6
the last add someone just has to run circles around the romm without getting meleed
think Sun King trinket even on normal is big there
hmm, that sounds good to me, it would make sense for my co dh tank to kite the add, but he can be a bit pepega at times XD, how easy is it for warr to kite? leap, portal, intervene, priest grips? might be enough?
i've been having the same issue man ^^
was wondering at using leaper, but i really think it's easier for a dh, plus they have at least one cheat death, two with the trinket
usually his cheat deaths are used by last phase 🐒
towards 8.30 he starts kitting the last add
they shouldn't
if they are that's a problem
(the log i linked is playing leaper)
yerppp. well tyfor help xx
nw, been hitting me head against that wall for ten days now ^^
Most issues in P3 council (nik last) usually flow down from slow target switching and bad recital movement.
for sure, we were having too many deaths to recital in the last phase
there's potential bad combo where you get recital and kb at the same time which makes it really important to have the raid always stacked too
had a few instant wipes on that
is reprisal legendary power dropping from twisted corridors too?
if it drops from a torgast add you should be able to bump into in the corridors
Yeah 3rd wing and above, just retrigger the instance until you get the correct section of torghast then kill the 6th floor boss.
thank you guys
i love u too 
I just tried getting advice on the BDK channel, I got roasted
lmao get rekt

hope you hit DS afterwards to heal
hahaha
They were very cruel 
KEK
Cuz nobody advises anybody to play bdk
Even the bdks
Depending on what you say here you can get roasted as well
I thought it would be fun to try a different style of tanking
your first mistake was assuming that WoW is fun
And that wow communities are nice
i am sorry to hear that happened to you though, that's no good
The only ones left in the BDK discord are the old veteran BDKs who are still bitter after years of being "The Best" tank are now considered by many to be worse than prot warriors. They're not tempered in the fires of continual community rejection over a decade.
So they tend to be bitter and toxic.
I'm just gonna go back and enjoy some Prot warrior 
TBH BDK plays very similar to prot war
Hey.... i resent that
No, you resemble that.
: ^)
i remember i asked for help in bdk discord once, and they started roasting my co tank instead 

What I mean is that BDK requires preplanning now, proper use of runic power is very akin to our preemptive rage gain/spend and CD use based on incoming damage, its just that we act immediately before damage happens and they act immediately after.
Only tank m+.
Who needs a co-tank.
Well that's just not nice
Trees
friendship ended with trees. earth elemental best friend now
especially from a Rshm who has the EQ lego
📈
deeptremor stonks
finally got my alt shm his
You can always let the retri paladin popping all cds on pull give it a shot
I don't need reputation anymore for allied races right?
See how much he lasts
nope
Its like level and an achievement iirc
I ground out allied rep right before the prepatch like a fool even
THey tell you in the embassay what you need for each
only took uh..letsee at had to gain 12000 rep... 20~ runs?
one of my friends who literally just started playing 2 weeks ago already unlocked high mountain tauren and vulpera just by leveling
wait are you going vulpera mwahi :(
Idk. Probably not.
Mwahi furry persona incoming?
yeah, doing legion and bfa will unlock the campaign races
Then again..i am only tanking m+.
Because they took away the rep portion of it
the post patch ones are the annoyances
I will just see what the least played race is on horde
And go that.
My bet is ....pandas.
Or goblins
ZT, KT, VE, etc
LOL monks
Havent seen a nightborne in a while
YES JOIN the chungus squad
good ol' monk race
nightborne 
The only problem with going panda Mwahi is that you're giving up the ABSOLUTE SWAG of playing 2hander monk by being a prot warrior
HM or nightborne I'd guess?
for warrior its 100% nightborne
Nightborne cant even beat belf on specs its racials re good for lol
ewwwww
too many legacy gobbos
Hard agree
Lets be honest..i'm going to choose the one that has the best transmog potential.
nightborne is so dogshit its insane
Who cares about racials, smh
so GREEN ORC
Everyone knows the only racial is Dwarf Racial.
Truth, they can't let the past go
And NE racial.
ppl who play vulpera
The rest are w/e
ppl who say "I play vulpera for the racials" are the same people that say "i watch anime for the plot"
straight liars
Orcs then
WDYM:
Obviously Goblin
So i can SoulShape + Charge. Gobling jump + charge. Heroic leap + charge
spare meat hook anything useful?
honestly female troll mogs 📈
I don't like playing females. 😒
you dont have to look at the feet tho:/
Mwahi dreaming of the day the azeroth olympics begin
vulpera means i no longer have to care about mogs
????????????????????????? wtf am i going to look at then
it's huge gold savings
Trolls are a bad choice, cause they dont wear shoes, and you want shoes
HM tauren all da way
zug zug orc
my first was zandar troll
they ruined nightborne by making every single character option "old grandma/pa"
literally this.
Im taking this out of context
shaved panda
Nah u gotta do lightforged draeni so you can use the suicide toy in world pvp and kill people leveling
please explain this to me
