too much
#protection
languid mason
plush saffron
lol
languid mason
they should put charge and intervene in 1 move again
plush saffron
war binds are pretty simple
strong forum
Vdh has like 10
lavish oracle
Yeah, it's weird playing VDH
plush saffron
calm your farm champ, its not that much
compact palm
I hard sigils they make me cringe
lavish oracle
I don't know what to do with half my bars
languid mason
almost got carpel tunnel
compact palm
I whiff ravager enough as it is
turbid cargo
I whiff ravager enough as it is
at least it moves now haha
languid mason
jus place and jump in
lavish oracle
It's also weird being able to like, do more with fewer binds
languid mason
boom packs dead
so easy
DH tanks are a joke u can literally close ur eyes and grind +15s easy
uneven mason
"Vengeance, because BFA Brewmaster was too complex for some people!"
crimson orbit
Anyone else finding halls of atonement rough af on a warrior? The bleed from the bears is rough as hell. Same with more or less any dungeon with non physical damage
languid mason
nope
plush saffron
do you have KSM zy?
indigo pumice
hey does anyone know if the HoA stoneborns keep bolster after u MC them
languid mason
been had it
turbid cargo
hey does anyone know if the HoA stoneborns keep bolster after u MC them
they do not
indigo pumice
they do not
ah ok i was wondering if u could do it like raging weeks cool thanks
languid mason
stun loyal beasts easy
compact palm
Kek
languid mason
thats the only shit side to HoA those damn bears
turbid cargo
ah ok i was wondering if u could do it like raging weeks cool thanks
i think it did super early on (before the pass that nerfed the necrotic wake bolster axe throw crap).
Raging stays if you MC under 30% though
plush saffron
and the casts...
open monolith
curse of oblit and collect sins are like.. the only casts that are worrisome
uneven mason
Anyone else finding halls of atonement rough af on a warrior? The bleed from the...
stun the hunter
languid mason
wat he said as i said ๐
rugged fog
compact palm
If cast goes off run for the hills
languid mason
there ya go
jus spec storm bolt as well for extra stun on the hunters as well? defo
plush saffron
lol
anyone can get loyal beasts, they cast it once pretty much
better to get double time for bigger safer pulls
open monolith
they cast it once literally, not even pretty much lol
languid mason
tru tru
plush saffron
sounds like you run with +9 andys
languid mason
lol
uneven mason
SB is just handy because thos frigging hunts like to hang out 20 feet outside of the pack
languid mason
9s are dumb jus deplete to 8 ad +3 or 2 that easy
plush saffron
sounds like you have experience...
uneven mason
Is tru >< I generally tank keys for my guildies
open monolith
Imagine doing keys under 14
clear pond
struggle is real
plush saffron
you guys need to stop blurting out the crap you do at +9s as if its gospel
open monolith
that's... not a nice thing to say about someone
uneven mason
Although most of my tanking is on a Frenzied_Monkey that took up residence in my house 7 years ago
compact palm
Oof
deep steppe
Imagine doing keys under 14
^
plush saffron
his chin has grown over the years, I fear for his health
plush saffron
zy is a +8 specialist
open monolith
You either run 14 for vault, 15 if you somehow don't have KSM yet, or +2 for valor
open monolith
people had KSM week 1 of m+ with ilvl that was dogshit
languid mason
or if u have a decent team push a 14
open monolith
don't need to be high ilvl to get KSM
languid mason
jus for vault for real
plush saffron
so why are you telling people how to play zy?
plush saffron
whatever you say zy
languid mason
and also jus sugesting wat i do
๐
jus laid back vibes
u act like mans doing MDI
or sumn
uneven mason
Someone get Hargh a snickers
uneven mason
They don't have snickers in the UK do they?
plush saffron
save your money for a carry
open monolith
man this is like my worst nightmare in discord. Hargh being.... Hargh, which is generally unpleasant to suffer through, and Zym typing the way that he does.
uneven mason
I bet its actually made with real sugar and not hfructos migraine trigger
open monolith
I think I'm literally having an aneurysm
languid mason
lol
deep steppe
I think I'm literally having an aneurysm
devout leaf
Hey all, i've been kinda getting bored of my bear, so i've been playing around with other tank specs, warrior is the only one I haven't played before, I just wanted to make sure I understand something properly. Shield block is my warrior sotr, and my ignore pain is my defensive rage spender to not overcap?
languid mason
oh no
uneven mason
Hey all, i've been kinda getting bored of my bear, so i've been playing around w...
๐
You got it
languid mason
@open monolith answer @devout leaf
uneven mason
Thats better than 50% Of the new warriors
uneven mason
most think IP is our main mitigation
languid mason
lol
open monolith
now i won't.
languid mason
awwwww
plush saffron
and sock thinking that he knows whats going on
languid mason
@open monolith is a legend dont hate
open monolith
I don't believe I've ever given you a reason to believe that I don't.
So I'll take that as you just being unpleasant, as usual.
languid mason
dont mind @plush saffron guess hes jus a weirdoreeno
plush saffron
realigning the chat before the +8s run off with it
open monolith
Weirdoreeno Cappuccino, if you will
languid mason
lolol
uneven mason
open monolith
I mean, I have KSM at the very least, so I have some inkling of knowledge on how to play o.o
not that KSM is particularly difficult to achieve
compact palm
๐ฉ ๐ฏ
languid mason
facts
compact palm
Why is bread on my frequent I've legit never used it
uneven mason
You like shit sandwhiches and want them cut diagonally.
open monolith
the other 2 check out though
devout leaf
perfect, thanks :^) no other questions, just started leveling from 50, will probably go for kyrian since no one else in my m+ crew plays kyrian
open monolith
Kyrian feels real good as prot
uneven mason
โ๏ธ ๐คฎ ๐
open monolith
you won't regret it
compact palm
LOL
stiff bear
Tanked a little bit today (fury main) holy hell manastorm bosses hurt me.. ๐ฆ
open monolith
Ikarikaze agrees with the person above him, but isn't happy about it
languid mason
kyrian feels nice nice
uneven mason
Tanked a little bit today (fury main) holy hell manastorm bosses hurt me.. ๐ฆ
Interrupt?
sweet summit
you can spell reflect and deflect one "stack" of the bleed
languid mason
hahahaha
languid mason
yow
uneven mason
Yeah true
stiff bear
Oh that wouldโve helped! didnโt know about SR
languid mason
can party cake be spell reflected?
uneven mason
Millie is good time to fall on "IP pumps"
stiff bear
No
sweet summit
patty cake?
languid mason
yea that
sweet summit
no
uneven mason
patty cake, narp, gotta interrupt that
languid mason
lol
open monolith
yo you ever fuck with the "great wall of chocolate" from P.F. Chang's?
uneven mason
crit party
open monolith
that is some decadent cake
open monolith
You know what else is like, a major guilty pleasure?
the lava crunch cakes from dominos
languid mason
wat
open monolith
holy fuck
open monolith
i mean redvelvet is fine
languid mason
lava cakes are bad bro jus make it urself
open monolith
fuck no.
primal mauve
fresh prot warrior, Kyrian or Necrolords?
languid mason
dominos are shit not real pizza
open monolith
HEY GET YOUR PROT QUESTIONS OUT OF MY CAKE CHANNEL
dusty geyser
venthyr man VENTHYR
open monolith
If you have a highly coordinated group with specs that highly take advantage of Mastery, Necrolord
uneven mason
fresh prot warrior, Kyrian or Necrolords?
Do you play in a super organized team?
jinx fuck
languid mason
lol @open monolith
open monolith
If you don't have that, and also plan to PvP on arms ever, go Kyrian
languid mason
@open monolith u need some italian pizza stones baked sour dough in ur life
stone*
ur world will explode with flavour
open monolith
I mean, just because I like to swallow lava cakes from dominos without chewing like a duck, doesn't mean I haven't had, or don't have access to, real good pizza.
languid mason
u do jus saying dont eat crappy dominos
uneven mason
Domino's when you want saran wrap for a topping
open monolith
Look, did I say I order pizza from dominos?
languid mason
@open monolith as i said ur a legend and legends dont eat crap
open monolith
or did I say LAVA FUCKING CRUNCH CAKES.
uneven mason
tasteless
languid mason
ok crunch away captain @open monolith
mellow gorge
@strong forum this how my dps rolls out usually, even though i try to cast clap as much as i can and even with show of force buff, bastion outdmgs it
deep steppe
show of force is not v-good
compact palm
Most covenrnts will outdmg clap
mellow gorge
well it's either that or ashen
compact palm
Necrolord technixly does too
uneven mason
yeah venthyr got poopy choices for potency
mellow gorge
and i think show is better than keeping ashen on constant uptime
verbal pelican
Why are all the pros running reprisal on feet?
uneven mason
if only they hadn't nerfed the crap out of our venthyr conduit
uneven mason
Why are all the pros running reprisal on feet?
Because they prob have 233 legs from SLG
deep steppe
Why are all the pros running reprisal on feet?
is you do mythic SLG it gives phat legs
languid mason
o my days @open monolith
mellow gorge
i'm still running the wall
languid mason
u are evil my friend
deep steppe
if only they didn't nerf the crap outta t-clap
languid mason
but thats jus too sweet
verbal pelican
yeah not gonna do mythic anytime soon. ๐
compact palm
Just buff clap another 50 percent
uneven mason
nah
compact palm
Ez
mellow gorge
or give clap an echo effect that does 40% of it's dmg
uneven mason
buff Revenge another 50%
deep steppe
buff Revenge another 50%
languid mason
its easy this week jus pull smart and small if need be and dance bottom left angle wise to dodge tornados pffffft
open monolith
Tyrannical. Easy.
uneven mason
Make Seismic baseline
open monolith
Those don't belong in the same sentence.
mellow gorge
make the wall baselined.
deep steppe
Make Seismic baseline
make AM Baseline
languid mason
cuz they go clock wise
uneven mason
make AM Baseline
they would have to come up with something to replace it with, and with their track record for messing with warrior talents, I would not be optimistic, we'd endup running HR and eating paintchips
languid mason
dunno y they redid warrior talents that was indeed the dumbest move blizzard made
verbal pelican
Tbh storming made Ventunax for me rather easier, the bullet hell it does is kinda simple if you time bumping into tornadoes
deep steppe
they would have to come up with something to replace it with, and with their tra...
Then I'll just take bolster and sleep through my keys โค๏ธ
languid mason
yea defo
open monolith
Everyone should download / install the weak aura that plays a mario jump noise every time someone in your party gets hit by storming
it 100% makes the game more enjoyable
uneven mason
They'd have to adjust bolster to be more in line with HR and the new talent
compact palm
Thats a thing
primal mauve
link plz
compact palm
Omg
languid mason
i need to figure out how to use weak auras
compact palm
Yes link
languid mason
doing mythic prog
open monolith
languid mason
and need that
compact palm
Its happenkng
languid mason
thx sock
open monolith
don't forget to download the sound file
and put it in the right place
Did you know there's a weak aura that lets you have unlimited character in your custom details! name
uneven mason
Sounds abusive
severe oak
guys what do you think of fueled by violence conduit ?
compact palm
I might end up griefk people s keys now just so I can be Mario
deep steppe
guys what do you think of fueled by violence conduit ?
Itโs not great
lunar jackal
@patent osprey trying to go venthyr as we need one in my team. What soulbind do you recommend?
languid mason
@open monolith will do
open monolith
my details! name on my survival hunter is usually: 198 SV BTW - Benched if below me
lyric grail
Hmm, not a lot of warriors seem to be running reprisal yet in high keys ๐ค
open monolith
It motivates the team.
languid mason
@open monolith told u, ur a LEGEND!
strong forum
guys what do you think of fueled by violence conduit ?
terrible
its equal to 2% leech
crisp dragon
uneven mason
closing time man
uneven mason
gotta get all my programs shut down
compact palm
Can I just say its weird that battleshout procs theotars sheild from party members
languid mason
lol so im glued to my laptop
patent osprey
<@133743762999476224> trying to go venthyr as we need one in my team. What soulb...
Niya ^.^
lyric grail
Wait, WW got nerfed?
uneven mason
my WW literally saw that coming and rolled a boomkin
"Nerf" - they fixed a ton of bugs that allowed you to pull some crazy stuff and do insane DPS
open monolith
WW got nerfed in the same way Marksman got nerfed
lyric grail
Glad I went warrior and not monk then ๐
compact palm
Bugfixed the real dps nerf
open monolith
unintended interactions got fixed.
lyric grail
After growing bored with DK, I couldn't decide between warr and monk, but I said "screw it, plate looks better." And now monk got bugfixed
uneven mason
well, I dabble in all tanks.
crimson vortex
So rav + am for raiding with The Wall legendary right? Or would I run ITF?
compact palm
Well u sent gunna see any hunters next tier if something doesn't change
tired cove
So one of our tanks is gonna be gone next week, and i have to tank so i need all the tips for tanking sludgefist
open monolith
I don't even really play my warrior anymore, I just bum around the discord because the other class discords are boring by comparison
compact palm
Arnt
uneven mason
I don't even really play my warrior anymore, I just bum around the discord becau...
not enough shitposters
open monolith
ITF for raid, typically is better
compact palm
U arnt wrong
uneven mason
So one of our tanks is gonna be gone next week, and i have to tank so i need all...
keepblock up
uneven mason
hump your co tank
keep blokc up
use SW for the 4th pillar hit after enrage
because your healers are going to be scrambling to top everyone else up
compact palm
Drive to their house and hold their hand irl it makes tanking it easyer
tired cove
ahhh kk
inland mesa
craft wall or reprisal first on an alt that will gear in mythic raid farm and keys?
copper lava
why does venthyr have to suck for prot
uneven mason
they don't?
uneven mason
I Mean, tyrannical
I enjoyed Venthyr
back when I was a vampy boy
its got some ST pumpers
and their conduits are 2nd to none
copper lava
you mean soulbinds?
copper lava
I feel like the team who thought of their soulbinds was different than the team that thought of the cov abilities.
Their soulbinds are so amazing for both effects and flavor
open monolith
I'm pretty sure the team that designed warrior conduits and legendaries is the same team that designed hunter torghast powers
they put their heads together and thought, "How can we make this as meaningless and underwhelming as possible?"
100% increased tar trap radius intensifies
copper lava
LOL
strong forum
hey
dh had a leggo that increased your size
dont forget about that
thats all it did
made you BIGGER
copper lava
that sounds like a war proper thing
open monolith
you know what would be a sick legendary?
Thunderclap now deals 200% increased damage and interrupts.
:3
shut up it's not overpowered
open monolith
i love that torghast power.
strong forum
that shit is strong enough in itself
patent osprey
nope you have it all wrong. Everytime you TC, you lose 1 calorie IRL
tired cove
unbreakable will seems like a good leggo for fights like sludge and stuff with lots of aoe
strong forum
i'd be dead....
tired cove
if you're not main tanking
patent osprey
Meta legendary am i rite?
compact palm
Lol
open monolith
yo you calling warrior players fat?
tired cove
ole up
strong forum
thats a straight up suicide leggo for me if i used it only 1 night
tired cove
who talking that talk about warriors
patent osprey
hey man, non fat people can lose some calories ok ^>^
tired cove
i will lay the smack down
open monolith
Pika you're toxic
I think you need to look inward and figure out what is bothering you
compact palm
Clapong your cheeks burns a lot of calories its realistic
naive panther
how is best served cold with reprisal?
open monolith
First you come in here spouting things like, "Reprisal might not actually be the single greatest thing to happen to mankind"
and now you're calling us all fat
patent osprey
LOL
strong forum
how is best served cold with reprisal?
recommended
naive panther
does the reprisal effect count as 50%
strong forum
yes
naive panther
ok haha
patent osprey
Bruh.. I have a wedding in 2 years... I need to think about CALORIES OOK
ITS ON MY MIND
naive panther
im in torghast and i got the power, and i was like why am i not alreayd running this
compact palm
LOL
open monolith
best way to play warrior in torghast is to literally just run to the end of each floor stopping only for good rares or obvious powers.
sweet summit
ya bsc is alright with reprisal
patent osprey
best way to play warrior in torghast is to literally just run to the end of each...
Best wayt o do torghast, is to go wtih your pally friend so you can afk while they solo it faster than you can
copper lava
cosplay warrior irl
isn't that basically Bhjeera?
strong forum
basically
open monolith
that's a weird way to spell VDH
VDH infinite scaling and resetting immolation aura = gg
open monolith
why
strong forum
get some friends that dont suck at the game ๐
naive panther
im using the black thing in torgh, so much fun
in the dark just running from mob to mob extending it
mellow gorge
get some friends that dont suck at the game ๐
you say it as if i have friends D:
mellow gorge
i am a one man team
open monolith
and I hate them all
mellow gorge
is that what you're sayin?
mellow gorge
i was too young back then
copper lava
legion was the best for war
open monolith
too.. young... for legion?
copper lava
that class hall was sex
open monolith
when did legion come out
mellow gorge
5 years ago
open monolith
and you were too young to play wow 5 years ago
strong forum
some people do be zoomers
open monolith
๐
devout leaf
How should I go about picking my covenant? All my m+ peeps are kinda light on kyrian, and I don't really see any one covenant above the others for top m+ers , just not venthyr apparently
mellow gorge
either NF or kyrian
NF is pure offensive
kyrian is a mix of both defensive and offensive
strong forum
Venthyr for great raid dmg
Kyrian for good m+ dmg, decent raid dmg potion and tether
NF for great m+ dmg, good raid dmg and a knockdown
Necro if you wanna buff your dps players
open monolith
Kyrian for angel mommies and a covenant hall that doesn't suck ass
copper lava
kyrian is boring asf tho
open monolith
you shut your whore mouth
copper lava
lol
open monolith
big thick blue thighs is never boring
copper lava
it is tho its all bland
open monolith
It's the only covenant hall that doesn't feel.. cramped.
Nice open air
can mount in most of it
10/10
copper lava
I do admit that being able to mount in there is nice
strong forum
others cant?
open monolith
correct
open monolith
the others are all indoors
NF can use their uwu-charge
and it's rested so it is "permanent" in there
strong forum
ic
compact palm
U misspelled blinding
mellow gorge
just don't look up lmao
strong forum
if you think Kyrian stuff is blinding youre either too young or too old
or an alcoholic
open monolith
good one. go post that on facebook
strong forum
ya i hate that argument 
open monolith
it's not an argument, it's just one of those things that "the internet" collectively decided to agree on as being funny
but then the joke was lost and people stopped being ironic about it
devout leaf
i'll probs go kyrian for the obnoxious tether and the dungeon bonuses, kinda liked the idea of being a necro pimp with my boomies fighting over me, and the night fae plate armor is pretty cool looking to be honest
compact palm
What is happening
strong forum
they only gain like 2-3% dmg out of banner
compact palm
Dafuq
strong forum
so its really not ... that overly amazing..
open monolith
Miracle Whip is disgusting. Mayonnaise is life.
Anyone that disagrees is incorrect. This is not subjective.
patent osprey
Venthyr not nf
nadjia
open monolith
he... he doesn't say it W-hip
he says H-wip
god not even the GIFS are correct today
open monolith
as I am wont to do.
copper lava
hey for the hyrda in the maze in mists, the triple bite, can I spell reflect the magic damage portion or only IP it w/ SB
wise rivet
so this legendary buff really is a thing?
wise rivet
๐ค
open monolith
wise rivet
yes sir
wanton harness
Guys im having a hard time understanding the rotation in the guides section to pump the deepz, outside of CDs what should i be prioritizing except blocking and revenge to up the dps?
strong forum
SS on CD
TC on CD
Avatar on CD
Demo on CD ( if Booming voice talented)
Ravager on CD ( if talented )
if you can afford to spend rage on revenge, do so
thats about it
wanton harness
alright alright
atomic grove
!guide
strong forum
solar spear
is there anything special to do with HoA this week? Had a right horrible time earlier getting huge bolstering stacks
strong forum
dont over pull, avoid pulling smallies into larger mobs
theres no real secret to it ๐คทโโ๏ธ
have dps cleave mobs evenly
focus big mobs first
Bolstering is a group effort
solar spear
yeah once we got wiped by a massive shard haha, i guess alot of thats a dps issue
groundkeepers were the other main one
HuGe
solar spear
feels wank but it is how it is i guess
btw I had a nice visit from the big bird in my DoS earlier
open monolith
You can get KSM by pulling every single dungeon 1 pull at a time beginning to end.
Rushing things is unnecessary.
merry ocean
On last boss in ToP can I heroic leap reaping scythe? ๐ Cuz I can spell reflect every other
solar spear
i suppose, its when it gets higher it starts to become an issue
strong forum
On last boss in ToP can I heroic leap reaping scythe? ๐ Cuz I can spell reflect...
You can outrun it a bit I heard yea
solar spear
@merry ocean i find i watch group health % and reflect the ones i need to avoid pressuring the healer too much, just use a small cd for the others and block
open monolith
Never reflect the 1st
Reflect the 2nd and every other
This usually lines up all the ones that overlap other mechanics
merry ocean
understandable
turbid cargo
yeah I just swap between intervening someone and spell reflect to avoid them
dark lark
Sorry, has this been talked about?: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/m3niif/warrior_spellreflection_got_stealth_nerfed/
midnight stone
I was spell reflecting multiple casts last night, so I don't know if this is true
mighty valley
Yeah a lot of the comments say โworks for meโ
outer bronze
hidden kindle
whats the best soulbind tree to play in m+ now as NF?
sweet summit
niya burrs i guess
open monolith
Literally anything posted to competitive wow in the history of ever should be taken with a massive spoonful of salt and skepticism
stiff bear
Played Korayn first strike all day and was pretty fun with blaster Dps, but probably harder to survive higher keys
lilac venture
Is the thunderlord lego still good for prot for m+
red wave
Havenโt been able to log on since Monday - howโs Necro feeling for those who went it? I noticed the spreadsheet and numbers seem lower than expected for a couple specs.
stark lance
if i wanna multispec a warrior is NF the best middle ground of Fury/Prot
fickle shadow
if i wanna multispec a warrior is NF the best middle ground of Fury/Prot
Yes
patent osprey
if i wanna multispec a warrior is NF the best middle ground of Fury/Prot
Middle ground???? you mean Bis everything ๐
clear pond
no stealth, it was posted
wet compass
Middle ground???? you mean Bis everything ๐
What about single target though?
For fury obv
lofty junco
Reprisal feels weird
gray spear
anyone been trying out Reprisal?
gray spear
a lot of ppl are saying it is now the best m+ leggo
void stump
it is
gray spear
does that mean doube time is a better talent now? lol
lyric grail
Dreamweaver or Korayn for prot?
amber herald
better talent probably still want stormbolt for pugs
outer spoke
Niya for def and korayn for dps
void stump
with the reprisal nerf Double time is needed for its optimal usage
lofty junco
I don't like using up utility/mobility for DR, and intervening for SB feels wrong. Plus, thematically it's broken because like the theme appears to be getting "reprisal", retaliating against an attack on an ally. But in practice you actually stop using intervene for its intended purpose at all, just intervening random party members for a shield block. It's strong, but it feels super janky.
void stump
yeh janky af
gray spear
i see
im trying to figure out how this leggo boost the dps, is it purely from the free revenge?
outer spoke
Rage and revenge and u skill bsc for more revengedmg
My warrior is trashgeared and i do at 12-14 keys like 3,6k dps
lyric grail
The way I had it explained to me is that it's because you no longer have to give up as much rage for mitigation as before you can be a bit more balanced, or even put more into dps
outer spoke
Bolster is not needed and u take AM so more Avatar, more dmg
lyric grail
The argument being a ST stun being better than saving 30 rage for a shield block, right?
sweet summit
ya u barely get use of the 2nd charge anyway
patent osprey
the argument is, Storm bolt can save wipes ๐
from a single cast not being able to be kicked for whatever reason
while DT is a bit overkill and causes u to play like a degenerate running in and out of the pack
cause things to move everywhere, or using ur utility stuns just so u can run out and charge back in xD
median tulip
the utility value of storm bolt depends on the availability of stuns from the rest of your party though, with stun DR being a thing
patent osprey
doesnt matter about the DR tbh
its rare that something will be triple Drd
ur using it more as an interrupt
than a long term stun
the long stun is just a +
median tulip
Fair. But even then, the point still stands that if someone else in the party is dealing with that, then Storm Bolt has less value
wild sandal
what souldbinds good for necro, i see most go emeni but the other 2 give some healing and more shields
outer spoke
Every cast that is interrupted is better than double time ๐
Its mitigation too, a stunned mob isnt dmging u
potent anvil
Just talent into Menace and keep Double Time
/s
patent osprey
Fair. But even then, the point still stands that if someone else in the party is...
u can never have enough stops
patent osprey
Just talent into Menace and keep Double Time <:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
/...
but u can have fear + ST stun ๐
outer spoke
u can never have enough stops
๐ช๐ผ
potent anvil
But you can zip around like a degen and knock things away 
patent osprey
True.
i gotta say I hate reprisal though
Its very hard to answer stream chat and effectively use reprisal
potent anvil
Just use seismic reverb 
compact palm
U take less DMG if they are ded
median tulip
What kind of uptime have you been getting @patent osprey ? I've had limited time to play with it so far.
edgy kindle
What soulbind would you recommned for necro ?
outer spoke
I am not a pro with the change from 6 to 4s i got an uptime like 70-75%
patent osprey
What kind of uptime have you been getting <@!133743762999476224> ? I've had limi...
80% if im paying attention. 65% if im not paying attention lol
patent osprey
What soulbind would you recommned for necro ?
This week esp, the emeri guy
edgy kindle
To buff allies ? Or does it have other purpuse?
dusky mica
I don't think I like reprisal honestly
outer spoke
PIka so we should take seismic and a big healer right? ๐
patent osprey
yeah to optimally buff ur damage ^.^
edgy kindle
Ok ty
patent osprey
PIka so we should take seismic and a big healer right? ๐
take seismic and abuse your healer XD
outer spoke
Hahahahha
I think i make a seismic and wait 1 week more for 235 reprisal ๐
My big problem is, that i play only with pugs so the healer will cry
cinder nova
quick pecan
The ONLY reason I didn't go NF is this... hear me out for the luls
Started expansion Prot Warrior... Kyrian, DUH!
Gave up and went to tank on other characters, let the Warrior be FURY. CONDEMN TIME. Venthyr swap, duh.
Heard about the buffs coming to prot warrior, swapped to necro FAST to be edgy and ahead of everyone. Underwhelming to say the absolute least,
Didn't want to hit the 4 part finale with NF so back to Kyrian since it kept my old progress.
patent osprey
but but but we warned everyone about necro :O
compact palm
Polka arnt u necro
vapid slate
being a simp bot as necro is so good when on a full team
compact palm
Plka
quick pecan
I honestly just wanted to try it, hadn't seen it on any characters yet. Thought I could abuse fleshcraft and it'd be sick... but in M+ fleshcraft will always be worthless and it was so sad.
compact palm
Autocorrect
patent osprey
yeah ^.^ I suffer so the rest of prot wars don't have to
patent osprey
kyrian is next
clear pond
Playing prot as venthyr feels bad man
quick pecan
unless you are 100% about the team
compact palm
I just like the theme of banner
sturdy sable
Playing prot as venthyr feels bad man
I actually swapped off venth a couple of weeks ago and I'm going to switch back
clear pond
and i keep getting shit on by mobs because my fingers press condemn and I cant help it
clear pond
Like as if I can see that button glowing and not press it you know?
sturdy sable
Impulse control
clear pond
Is it really even my fault if i have no rage for shield block?
polar radish
are you telling me you enjoyed being a banner bitch in gw2?
night nebula
yo, sorry I am new here. Looking for m+ content legendary, maybe raids next tier. I am KSM on my main (guardian druid) what legendary do you recommend?
compact palm
Reprisal
compact palm
Wall will be good on raids for later aswell
I do and I think extra stop is really good
proud frigate
Is anyone else having any issue with the intervene/charge macro since latest update? Interven won't work over party frames and only sometimes work if it's physically over the player in game (I've used the same macro for a year)
spiral perch
if i want to tank being kyrian, i need to choose pelagos right?
open monolith
Yes
wind surge
pelagos is the only soulbind
open monolith
Idk. I don't play inferior-specs
wind surge
compact palm
spiral perch
oh well
patent osprey
if i want to tank being kyrian, i need to choose pelagos right?
fanc you are already playing an off meta tank. do you think your soul bind choice is mandatory ^.^
open monolith
@night nebula whether you take stormbolt or double charge in m+ is partially preference, partially dependent on the dungeon, and partially dependent on your group. If you have ALL the cc in your group and don't need the extra interrupt, you can pass on stormbolt.
edgy kindle
Is anyone else having any issue with the intervene/charge macro since latest upd...
Is it bound to a mouse button/extra button ?
patent osprey
did you just say stormbolt is preference
compact palm
copper lava
so I see a lot of wars using gluttonous spike instead of splintered heart
edgy kindle
Mouserver macros won't work on some mouse buttons if used on party frames
copper lava
is it that much better?
proud frigate
@edgy kindle it is, in fact it's mouse-wheel click
open monolith
I won't talk to you until you get the help that you need
spiral perch
i did a nw16 with my lock and tank was war prot kyrian and what a beautiful way to tank, so i was thinking switching to kyrian just for tanking
copper lava
you can also use Clique as a back up for mouseover macros lol
edgy kindle
^
proud frigate
I did change my mouse- seems odd that it would have an effect
open monolith
I've been using Clique since TBC. I can't play without it anymore
meager locust
Kyrian spear is okay i tank both ventyr and kyrian wars up to 17 and its doable
copper lava
I use it for intervene tbh
open monolith
Samesies
copper lava
if they are in range I hit them with it
open monolith
And literally every heal and blessing on my holy pally (except light of dawn)
meager locust
/cast @sinful boltover intervene works
meager locust
I use base wow frame but set party frame to always raid frame
Maybe thatll fix ur mouseover macros
open monolith
I use grid2
copper lava
I feel like its almost mandatory having that setup with reprisal now idk
turbid cargo
/cast <@176499516009086977>over intervene works
poor Mouse gets soo many pings
meager locust
Lolllll
copper lava
also Gluttonous Spike > Splintered heart?
open monolith
Only if you have 0% of dying :D
Splintered heart is at worst, a useless stat stick, and at best a run saver.
Splintered heart in m+ is bae
Don't use it on raid
meager locust
In rocking hakkar trinket and the pvp alacrity 220 lol
turbid cargo
pvp alacrity + stone legion 4life
meager locust
My other war is alacrity and that floor haste trink from spires of asc
open monolith
Hakkar trinket + Spires trinket = bae
meager locust
Yesssssa sock
patent osprey
I'm playing the game wrong playing vintage and slg trinket T_T
copper lava
most of the war's I was looking at were from warcraft logs so makes sense since they are raiding
vocal cave
any tips for chamberlain? this dot ticks sooo hard
vocal cave
just death strike kappa
meager locust
Spell reflect for woe soak
patent osprey
any tips for chamberlain? this dot ticks sooo hard
spell reflect the last 5 seconds of the dot as it does more the longer its on you
primal shale
This feels like a really stupid question, but I don't see it anywhere. Do I enchant both the weapon and the shield? Stupid druid is stupid
clear pond
bring back shield spikes
whole plume
Bring back shield drops
primal shale
Ah ok. I just (apparently foolishly) thought it was a weapon
patent osprey
yup that's right. I need more consumables I forget to put on
make it 30 min too so you have to refresh it mid dung
open monolith
That's enough out of you
patent osprey
lol
compact palm
He's not wrong tho
clear pond
i levelled a TBC prot pally by walking to mobs and letting holy shield and shield spikes and some shitty BoE epic reflect damage on everything, it was the most fun I ever had
open monolith
Yeah dude, same
Wasnt there a green shield that like.. did poison damage on block?
compact palm
Sounds like druid with less steps
torpid saffron
Man, reprisal feels so awkward to play with
uneven mason
I leveled a warrior as prot in TBC
torpid saffron
Like before the nerf maybe it was good cuz it was kinda OP but i guess i needed some time to get used to it
patent osprey
sounds like thorns crusader
torpid saffron
Now i think of going back to The Wall
uneven mason
I also like to play soccer with bricks and climb uphill both ways.
whole plume
Pay for swapping Undead -> Vulpera - Yay or Nay?
torpid saffron
They really have no idea how to fix prot warr srsly
patent osprey
yayayyayayayayayyyayayayaya @whole plume
gentle trellis
when did rep get nurfed?
signal plover
on ptr
gentle trellis
live
vocal cave
is ravager always superior to unstoppable force?
signal plover
looks like it's deployed now
gentle trellis
yea
signal plover
is ravager always superior to unstoppable force?
yeh
gentle trellis
gettin only 4s
whole plume
Can really feel those 2s
signal plover
yeah imo wasn't rly needed but w/e
open monolith
It's still far better than wall or TL for m+
torn garden
Itโs awkward to play but itโs not bad
soft lotus
Hi, quick question, do you guys have whirlwind on your actionbars? It's completely useless for prot, right?
whole plume
yes, useless
gentle trellis
whirlwat?
soft lotus
thanks!
last yew
So BSC is good now?
gentle trellis
ye
gentle trellis
bsc / rav / am
amber herald
with reprisal
last yew
Really
chilly brook
BSC was always good damage
whole plume
For raid, you can run the usual wall build
chilly brook
Just wasn't really able to be played because of the way it shook out
last yew
With bsc/ravaged/am
chilly brook
Now we have reprisal
last yew
True
chilly brook
So it doesnt really matter that we lose survival from talent picks
tender carbon
Wut
chilly brook
Wut
Wdym wut
We literally sacrifice survival in talents now because of reprisal
Because reprisal makes up for it
last yew
Ok
chilly brook
Hence AM/BSC
gentle trellis
Wall -> BV / ITF or RAV / AM or Bolster
Reprisal -> BSC / RAV / AM
sick sentinel
gentle trellis
do yourself a favor a macro intervene
whole plume
Do you guys go double time or stormbolt?
gentle trellis
co tank or melee
merry ocean
Double time when premade
gentle trellis
DT yea
patent osprey
last yew
Yea so are we barely hitting TC and more revenge? Sorry for all the questions... coming back to prot from bfa
gentle trellis
yesterday I said dont go DT in M+.... but its even better
gentle trellis
you hit TC on cd wdym barely
chilly brook
Yea so are we barely hitting TC and more revenge? Sorry for all the questions......
TC is like 5 rage the button
It's fine to hit
Less good than revenge in aoe
And far less good than shield slam
patent osprey
never hit tc when ravager is up ^.^
last yew
Yea but just less of a priority
chilly brook
It's just a heres 5 rage and a chance to reset shield slam button
chilly brook
you hit TC on cd wdym barely
Not really no
last yew
And itโs it still confirmed at 6s shield
whole plume
hitting TC is in the muscle memory.. can't stop it ๐
last yew
hitting TC is in the muscle memory.. can't stop it ๐
Truth
spring flax
Does anyone know if buying anima items and refunding to the vendor after switching covenants still works?
last yew
Itโs better than sunder sunder sunder ๐
whole plume
Thats the idea
patent osprey
Does anyone know if buying anima items and refunding to the vendor after switchi...
I just did it on wednesday
tender carbon
@patent osprey do you have that banner WA for who it buffs handy
tender carbon
Its on wago, just search banner
Ty
whole plume
Then cover with SB until reset
Really up to you , if you PUG, you might want to go Kyrian or NF.
plain garnet
If I intervene the other tank during sludgefist for the reprisal proc, will I get double clapped by him?
compact palm
Yes it will not be nice
merry ocean
patent osprey
yeah Wagio one is the one I use @tender carbon
spring flax
I just did it on wednesday
Aight. Wish me luck.
languid mason
mandem!
austere charm
What is the best soulbind for night fae?
torpid saffron
So what are you guys thinking of reprisal ? Is it worth using ? Or should we stick to Wall and/or Thunderlord ?
I find it kinda clunky..
Playing as Kyrian
languid mason
nothing wrong with kyrian
its the best overall night fae is dope if u rotate dps like fury etc
compact palm
Reprisal is great just forces you to sacrifice utility for SB uptime
Playstyle slightly altered aswell just a learning curve
deft sapphire
just did my first dungeon with reprisal it feels godlike
you always have sb up wtf
and you get to play am and have 40%+ uptime on avatar
compact palm
Yea it's nuts for anything that isn't chucking spells perma
compact palm
True
mild ruin
not sure if correct play but ive been playing with the middle talent in that row
been fun
mild ruin
im low geared so having the extra rage is nice
mighty cairn
it's nice to have a focus intervene macro on a melee and just use it as an extra shield block/rage gen in a pull
deft sapphire
yeah you just intervene a melee on cd
for the free proc
safeguard gives them passive dr as well, useful on aoe like pride
mighty cairn
yeah safeguard is actually really interesting
torn garden
Prot conduits for m+?
mighty cairn
i just wish the value was slightly higher at higher ranks
mild ruin
I feel like i dont use Ignore pain nearly enough in M+
190 ilvl, just tanked DoS 12 but felt like i was getting punched around at times, but IP did literally nothing on the overall healing
like fleshcraft was higher
verbal viper
rip down to 4 seconds
or 3 seconds by the time u reach target with charge full range
fervent smelt
^^^
mild ruin
im just wondering where IP comes in the typical rankings for overall healing on warriors
like where is it comparing to passive healing like indom?
deft sapphire
for me its normally very similar to indom at the end of the dungeon
mild ruin
see for me atm, its about 1/2 - 1/3 of indom at end
void slate
How's prot dmg feeling now?
mild ruin
Been running keys tonight, struggle get a few issues with snap threat but that might be a gear thing, overall damage In dungeons I am pumping about 3.5k dps in most runs as a 190 ilvl prot
void slate
Very nice considering ilvl
void slate
very
mild ruin
Yeah, the rest of the group overgeared it so outside of bursting a pack things were dead
Just using normal reprisal rotation, charge > BSC Revenge > SB > Intervene > BSC revenge > SB
red wave
Would def vary dungeon by dungeon but I also am very skeptical of 3.5k at 190
merry ocean
using details or recount?
copper lava
pics or it didn't happen
mild ruin
Details, it was in a DOS 9, the 12 had less overall
I mean, I canโt take a pic of a run Iโve already completed, Iโll do a run tommorow and attempt to replicate if itโs that unbelievable
quiet geode
Hi whats the best covenant to go as prot?
merry ocean
Not that unbelievable when you dont press IP
mild ruin
Iโm not pressing IP at all at the moment. Aside from not really needing it the revenge spam just helps speed it all up
compact palm
IP Is for non pumpers
verbal viper
IP use entirely dependent on how good your healer is, assuming proper use of shield block
quiet geode
is necro the way to go?
languid wyvern
I thikn Kyrian is a bit stronger for raiding becasue of the potion
compact palm
Pick for transmog 
verbal viper
if you have an organized group in voice chat then necro may be the way to go, if you run with a fire mage and boomy - the 400+ mastery is OP
i tend to do atleast some pugging and i like the potion
plus it removes necrotic
they buffed the dungeon buffs for necros apparently too
merry ocean
only in ToP afaik
verbal viper
ah
bright salmon
How is Mikanikos compared to Pelgaos in terms of Soulbinds?
modern brook
Worse
verbal viper
i am running kleia at the moment, fury with pelagos
modern brook
Genesis is nice but the rest of the tree is eh
bright salmon
Even in M+?
verbal viper
yeah experimenting, valiant strikes helps heal people up
modern brook
i think hes talking about Miko
to which: combat meditation is roughly on par w/hammer since its very hard for us to not just hit everything at on ce
Let go of the Past is free DR, and phial of patience is actually insanely busted
bright salmon
Alright, thx
modern brook
Auto phial on miko does nothing unless you're just really bad at pressing your buttons, regenerationg materials is actually op you'll never repair again
Its not that hammer of genesis is bad, its that it doesnt make up what you lose
That said if you want to mess around with it go wild it wont brick your key
verbal viper
god why does Conduit Energy even exist
verbal viper
Bron showing up is pretty awesome imo, not sure how good it is compared to pelagos
bright salmon
I'm honestly more worried about the knockback, when Im not expecting it
verbal viper
its not too bad
bright salmon
Alright ill give it a try then, thx
verbal viper
if memory serves its about 10 yards
void slate
Doesn't mikanokos' phial thing not have internal cd, and works as long as you have vials?
I was told this XD
verbal viper
Forgelite Filter?
void slate
It may have been fixed, but it used to be the case at least.
lyric grail
I swear I'm having nearly as hard a time getting into keys as prot as I do fury lol
open monolith
Push your own key and you never have to worry about getting invited.
lyric grail
That's fair lol
open monolith
You can then also be SUPER CHOOSEY and elitist about who you invite
verbal viper
they need to boost the drop chance of weapons and shields in m+, it is absolute shit low
verbal viper
i do lfr a little bit but i dont enjoy raiding so m+ is it for me lol
compact palm
Fair
verbal viper
dungeon rat
final gorge
is night fae still pretty good for m+?
final gorge
I was just curious, because I am currently kyrian and considering swapping
chilly brook
merry ocean
Fae- big dmg
compact palm
Only reason not to is in m+ there is already a ton of fae people and u might end up not having the dungeon bonus
inland mesa
Wowhead just posted a nerf to reprisal but I thought it was already knocked down to 4 seconds?
crimson canyon
Went to live with 6 seconds, by accident it seems
inland mesa
Ah, was debating on my first rank 4 craft to be wall or reprisal