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open monolith
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chilly brook
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craggy pilot
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will update my WA to that

lavish oracle
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is 12s of shield block

uneven mason
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which isn't really functionally possible now that they've nerfed reprisal

cinder nova
open monolith
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don't tell me when I can or cannot plonk

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also what is a plonker

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I like that word

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plonk

delicate thorn
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I like raiding. I am of the opinion that nothing in this game outside of raids should be challenging at all ever. Raids being difficult is great but I don't want to do anything else in this game that is challenging. So I stick with world quests and rep farming and things like that outside of raids

craggy pilot
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well if i do 2 SB + Intervene + Charge

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ah because of GCD i probably wont lose 2s

open monolith
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a brief google search tells me a plonker is the british slang for cuckold?

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huh. interesting

chilly brook
delicate thorn
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I've been playing since day 1 of WoW release, I should at the very least be okay at the game

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🙂

chilly brook
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Lol

open monolith
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There are so many people who play this game 8+ hours a day for 16 years and still suck massive butts

red swallow
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Playing long doesnt mean you're good, i know people who just play but dont bother learning shit

chilly brook
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I joke too much in this discord

open monolith
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my favorite are people who TRY to learn stuff, perform like shit, and always make an excuse why it's not their fault

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source: the mage in our guild who gray parses consistently

tired hawk
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Just like players thinking they're good because of purple parse 🙂

craggy pilot
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what are best M+ Shields and 1h?
Engorged Worm Smasher (NW) + Barricade of the Endless Empire (TOP) ??

delicate thorn
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I raid as Holy Priest, I am used to not performing great compared to other healers

open monolith
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I would argue that a purple parse does, to some degree, prove someone is good

delicate thorn
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other than on fights with very heavy consistent damage

open monolith
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so i'm not sure what point you're trying to make

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2 players. both do mechanics. equal ilvl. one parses purple, one parses green.

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Which is better?

mossy sluice
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assuming no mechanics and patchwerk*

open monolith
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You're fooling yourself if you think parses don't mean anything.

tired hawk
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If they do mechanics

delicate thorn
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@open monolith the one that shows up to raids more consistently

lavish oracle
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for healer? @open monolith

open monolith
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No

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healing parses aren't so cut and dry

lavish oracle
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you literally can't tell shit from healing parses

open monolith
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yeah not talking about healing

tired hawk
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ofc the purple one. But I see way too much ppl (especially in raid) having good parses, but still suck at the game because they failed half mechanics

open monolith
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just challenging the statement that "people who think they're good just because they purple parse are lole" - paraphrased

cinder nova
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So just swapped covenants - what's the most efficient method of farming renown?

uneven mason
open monolith
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if you fail half the mechanics in meaningful content that you don't out gear, you're not purple parsing.

mossy sluice
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apparently lfr is lit for renown

uneven mason
delicate thorn
runic hare
tired hawk
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@open monolith when ppl drop shit everywhere on first Nathria boss (I don't have the name in english)

open monolith
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Shriekwing.

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Shriekwing's mechanics are meaningless. It's perfectly fine for some of the DPS to ignore the mechanic and drop blood out of the way

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bad example.

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(at least on heroic)

cinder nova
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Aren't names the same regardless of language?

tired hawk
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nope

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in french it's Hurlaile

cinder nova
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What why

tired hawk
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bc we're french

open monolith
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Our guild lets 2 - 3 DPS ignore echoing screech and stay on the boss, out of the way of the usual stack spot, to kill it faster.

delicate thorn
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on french realms it's Le Shriekwing

cinder nova
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Does French also have a French word for Timothy?

tired hawk
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And french ppl want to translate everything

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@cinder nova for us it's not Stormwind, it's Hurlevent

cinder nova
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Oh man I hate that lol

tired hawk
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It depends, but for names it kind of suck

cinder nova
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Is Denathrius still called Denathrius?

delicate thorn
tired hawk
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Lmao

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Yep Denathrius is still the same

cinder nova
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Out here trying to figure out how French is translating fantasy names lol

tired hawk
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They're not changing everything, but sometimes it sounds weird

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Well

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Stormwind (storm + wind) = Hurlevent (hurle + vent)

delicate thorn
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mai oui

tired hawk
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wind = vent
They haven't decided to translate Storm bc it would be Oragevent

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or Tempêtevent

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It doesn't sound good

delicate thorn
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je suis désolée je ne parle pas francais

tired hawk
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haha

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You actually do

delicate thorn
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or something like that

cinder nova
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Meanwhile I'm about to play a swashbuckler in tabletop named Guillaume Petit and I'm going to do an almost offensive French accent 😆

delicate thorn
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I took french in school but that was many years ago

open monolith
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just go "HON HON HON, OMELETTE DU FROMAGE" occasionally and you'll nail the french thing

tired hawk
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French lesson is over my friends, see you later 😄

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Next lesson in ~1h30

delicate thorn
quiet gulch
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Has anyone here pushed into mythic raiding as a prot warrior

jagged pier
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loads of us

quiet gulch
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I have finally got into the heroic scene as I am done being a damn disc priest ahah

open monolith
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They're lying to you. Prot Warriors are not allowed to mythic raid. The instance won't let you in if you are a prot warrior.

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Limit had to beg Blizzard to make a special exception for them.

quiet gulch
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Bahah haha

open monolith
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That's why so many people are upset about Limit winning. Special treatment.

delicate thorn
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if you are done with disc why not go holy!

open monolith
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holy has one purpose... guardian spirit Kael'Thas so I can word of glory him harder

delicate thorn
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😦

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Holy is great for all fights

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don't listen to all the lies

open monolith
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you're right.. Holy paladin is pretty great 😄

quiet gulch
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I do both actually when needed but it’s not my style. My priest is 217ilvl and he pumps it out but I’m enjoy tanking much more

uneven mason
delicate thorn
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@open monolith I even PI our holy paladin on Kael so I gues you're right

open monolith
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:)

tiny remnant
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Does spell reflect prevent negative magic effects, particularly from aoe abilities, or only from single target abilities directed to the you?

void stump
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Double time > Stormbolt with reprisal?

uneven mason
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Its varies wildly, it can prevent AE debuffs, as well as ST debuffs, or not do anything beyond reduce the dmg

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or negate the damage but allow the debuff to apply

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Blizzard just uses the "random shit" dartboard to determine what is SRable and what is SDable and what just goes 🖕

tiny remnant
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Yeah, feels a bit like how they determine what is blocked by SB and what isn't haha

uneven mason
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"Physical frontal cleave, no, fuck that, not blockable"

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"Ice nukes, sure, block that shit"

tiny remnant
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Blizz Logic

open hornet
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At the risk of being told to check the pins

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Is there a list of what you can sr and sd

uneven mason
raven iron
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came across this which somewhat summarises how i've viewed the Reprisal changes. What do people think so far about the 9.0.5 changes (i haven't tried them yet)? Are they enough to make the issues pointed by OP here acceptable (i.e can we see them just as a class difference)?

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weak spindle
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With reprisal in dungeons are people using BSC now?

mighty cairn
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yeah a lot of people are using or have been testing BSC and AM now with reprisal

weak spindle
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Trying legend for first time so was curious what others use, guide is updated saying it has more value but not much on the AM section, might try it

sturdy sable
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with reprisal you dont need bolster to crutch up your block

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so you can safely run AM which is a dps gain

uneven mason
west adder
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would u guys take it over thunderlord in m+?

uneven mason
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Yes.

open monolith
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Reading the comments on wowhead LOLE

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That's almost as bad as reading r/wow or r/competitivewow and expecting to find any value from it

grim elm
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ok cool, im planning on making thunderlord cause i think its cool. Glad to hear its still viable

uneven mason
raven iron
open monolith
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whoa, your takeaway from this conversation shouldn't be "make thunderlods"

solemn magnet
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TL is the 3rd I'd make and I've never made it

open monolith
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I mean, you do you but... don't

grim elm
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wait

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waht

uneven mason
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TL hasn't been worth using since they nerfed it in beta

west adder
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@grim elm he said reprisal is better than thunderlord not the way around

grim elm
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oh i just jumped in and misread

open monolith
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Thunderlord is doodoowater in comparison to Reprisal

grim elm
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english isnt my first language

solemn magnet
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Reprisal > wall >>>>> TL

uneven mason
open monolith
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more like Reprisal >>>>>>> wall > TL

west adder
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well thx ma dudes for quick answers

open monolith
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for m+

grim elm
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this makes me sad, alright lol

uneven mason
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its not that big of a gap between TW and Reprisal

open monolith
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IT's not that big of a gap between TW and TL

mighty cairn
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the wall still feels better in keys like sanguine

mighty valley
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TL is still "viable" if you find it way more fun, you'll be fine if you really really want to craft it, but it is worse

uneven mason
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I mean, going without a lego is viable as well

west adder
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well i guess im heading back to torghast yep

vocal cave
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how much does upgrading shield with valor cost?

west adder
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250

wanton panther
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a bit yea because you have to stay still for 3 sec

sick sentinel
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Does anyone have any aura that can see the allies affected by the banner?

solemn magnet
uneven mason
stable kernel
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read a old post lmao myb

sturdy sable
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honestly i think id craft tormented kings over thunder lords at this point

uneven mason
void stump
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Double time > Stormbolt with reprisal?

uneven mason
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depends on your comp and comfort level

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if you trust your group to interrupt

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go DT

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if you pug, SB is still the thing

plush tendon
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also depends if you press Stormbolt

void stump
uneven mason
unkempt fox
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Double time squad

wild arch
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hi guys, I was looking a lot but I am still confused...should I use Reprisal in m+? and mainly what covenant is the best for me as prot? I am venthyr now.

strong forum
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Venthyr for great raid dmg
Kyrian for good m+ dmg, decent raid dmg potion and tether
NF for great m+ dmg, good raid dmg and a knockdown
Necro if you wanna buff your dps players

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Reprisal for m+
Wall/reprisal for raid

wild arch
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nice so its worth to craft Reprisal anyways

strong forum
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I'm gonna use reprisal on every boss but sludge now tbh, it's so nice

amber herald
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more than worth, bis

crisp trench
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Reprisal also just seems fun.

strong forum
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It also raises skill ceiling alot

crisp trench
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I have to wait two weeks to craft mine tho.

strong forum
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It's already good at 190 ilvl

outer bronze
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with the change to 4s is bolster looking a bit more attractive than when it was 6s? or is it still a pretty poor pick

strong forum
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I would use it even at r1

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AM is still the better pick

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Bolster is overkill or if you're undergeard

deep steppe
plush tendon
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Imagine if Bolster was baseline

stable kernel
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only bad thing about reprisal is tornados

strong forum
deep steppe
crisp trench
plush tendon
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Now that we use reprisal and not bolster.... whens a good time to use Last Stand XD

stable kernel
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oh i know im trying to learn prot warr and nados making it hard

plush tendon
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Ive only ever known bolster last stand

strong forum
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Just overlap it

plush tendon
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LAME

strong forum
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It's still 30% EHP gain

deep steppe
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if you have the conduit, you can use it as a dps cooldown for the phat rage gain

tired hawk
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@open monolith @cinder nova @delicate thorn ready for next lesson

strong forum
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Avoid having your health drop to 0!

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This one is for free

keen oasis
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So I am raiding with reprisal now and it's actually quite fun with AM!

strong forum
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Yeah it's big

tired hawk
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I'm having a blast playing Reprisal in mm+

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Haven't tried in raid tho

keen oasis
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I like it more than passive approach of the wall.

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Thouuuugh Sludge will probably will go with the wall

stable kernel
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reprisal is fun

uneven mason
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reprisal on sire is fun stuff

keen oasis
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oh yeah

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you can charge after that grab of his!

stable kernel
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fun leggo that gives defensive and offensive benefits

keen oasis
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more dps!

uneven mason
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who woulda thunkit

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IDK why they nerfed it tho

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still weaker than Brand

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I mean I KNOW why they nerfed it "Llarold hyped it too much"

stable kernel
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i was consistently getting max shield block every pack with pre nerf tbh

uneven mason
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yeah

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as it should be.

strong forum
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Just get more haste peepodrive

stable kernel
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my warr is just starting to get geared tho

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only 200 ilvl

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trying to get as much haste as possible

uneven mason
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Like Reprisal would be equal to VDH lego if it applied demo shout to our target when we charge, and revenge spread demo shout to 2 targets, and when demo shout faded it gave us a bubble for the damage we did to that target with Revenge.

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that would be square with VDH legendaries

uneven mason
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don't worry about haste

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or mastery

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or vers

stable kernel
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oh i am just going for ilvl

uneven mason
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just get armor and str

stable kernel
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but picking up haste and whatnot when i can

sick sentinel
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what is the best covanant after the patch still kyrian?

stable kernel
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kyr/nf

chilly brook
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Night Fae

outer solstice
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yes yes

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NF fun

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NF damage

stable kernel
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im necro for funnies

keen oasis
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NF best

stable kernel
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u can do big dam with banner as a personal cc

outer solstice
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but srsly, all covenants are fine now

stable kernel
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cd*

sick sentinel
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what about if u wanna play 2 specs like arms and prot (pvp minded)

uneven mason
outer solstice
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you get massive mastery with Niya as NF as well every time you use Aftershock @stable kernel and the CD is a lot lower ^^

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you mainly loose out on the strength from the conduit

stable kernel
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but i play wit a boomie friend

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and watching him brrrr with convoke is fun

outer solstice
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yeah that's a different story

stable kernel
uneven mason
chilly brook
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Bajheera has been slapping as NF in pvp

dreamy bay
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Hey, I will have to tank SLG Mythic on monday/Wednesday, I'm currently nightfae, what soulbind would you take?

strong forum
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Niya

sick sentinel
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i think imma go nightfae then

stable kernel
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plus fleshcraft is fun aswell

dreamy bay
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Ok, ty

stable kernel
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fat shield and 20% dr if needed

sick sentinel
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Necro just seem so broken tho

uneven mason
sick sentinel
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500mastery

solemn magnet
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Isnt korayn good for the adds on slg?

stable kernel
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its ok not super broken

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like most have said it seems all warr covs are good

sick sentinel
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since i dont raid i just do keys and pvp

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necro seem more stron but nightfae i can be a wulpin

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vulpin

dreamy bay
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And for safety just go wall als leggo?

strong forum
west adder
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i saw lots of ppl building reprisal on feet altough legs give more stat, any reason why

solemn magnet
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Being here a few weeks, this whole chat is about padding

stable kernel
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if u mythic raid

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feet is better

sick sentinel
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why wouldnt u pad?

uneven mason
solemn magnet
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Idk. Not really what I'm sayin?

stable kernel
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slg drops 233 legs in mythic raid

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if u dont mythic raid craft legs leggo

uneven mason
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Reprisal on legs is just future proofing

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when we can "rank 5+"them the next tier might not have nice legs

stable kernel
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i dont really raid ever so i crafted legs

uneven mason
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they might be an anti-waxer

west adder
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so if im mythic raider go for feets, ok

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thx

strong forum
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Only if you wanna plan for 9.0

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And if you can kill SLG mythic.

outer solstice
stable kernel
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just recraft if you have too later

strong forum
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And if you wanna re-craft it in 9.1

west adder
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we are slg progress second week so it should be dead soon

outer solstice
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I bet we'll have some sort of shortcut mechanic in 9.1

dreamy bay
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We are 300 tries in and tank suddenly just said cba

strong forum
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Power move

outer solstice
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ooof

dreamy bay
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So I have to tank now, but don't know yet for how long

west adder
dreamy bay
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I hate it as fury

west adder
dreamy bay
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New experience now, yay

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I hate 300 tries

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It was fun for some of it

west adder
dreamy bay
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Pretty hard stuck rn

strong forum
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That's called raiding

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Stuff getting boring pretty easy

dreamy bay
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True, still motivated though, so I immediately said I'll tank it

open monolith
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I'm motivated as fuck.... to play monster hunter rise on the 26th

dreamy bay
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Don't wanna loose progress just cause tank is bitching

open monolith
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so happy to have an excuse to not log in to wow

lavish oracle
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Yeeeeh, gonna do flips and shit on my insect glaive

open monolith
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I'm gonna do what i always do

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poke poke poke

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hop

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poke poke poke

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hop

strong forum
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Anyone else hyped for 0 games?

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Or just me

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The only game I have hype for is d4

open monolith
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I'm hyped for: Monster Hunter Rise, FFXIV Endwalker, and FFXVI

strong forum
open monolith
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Oh and Horizon: Forbidden West

lavish oracle
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New Guilty Gear in April too

sick sentinel
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anyone has some great Prot weakauras

deep steppe
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Mass Effect Remastered should be fun

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trip down memory lane

strong forum
sick sentinel
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something that shows pretty much everything u need as a prot warr @strong forum like afenars just better

lavish oracle
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Oh, Nier remaster in April too

strong forum
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Maybe mine

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Idk if its to your taste

sick sentinel
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let me check it out 😄

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yeah something like that is sick

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@strong forum thanks 😄

dreamy bay
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so when tanking with niya, i go 3 endurance + burrs?

strong forum
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Ye burrs

dreamy bay
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ok ty

fluid wraith
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are there any resources i can read that delve into maximizing my defensive rage spending as prot? in essence its simple right, block and use ip. im only 200 ilvl and feel like i can do a lot better to live. ultimately i think im just hitting revenge too much but was wondering if theres any written guides that could help me out.

dreamy bay
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unnerving, stalwart and brutal vitality?

strong forum
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Ye... Brutal vit sucks but we don't have anything better

dreamy bay
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tyvm

strong forum
mossy sluice
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ip big bait. assert dominance and revenge

uneven mason
strong forum
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Maximise rage gain, use CDs often, basically everything closely on CD.
Know when to hold stuff or not

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Know what hurts you and what doesn't

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Playing offensively = playing defensively for us

fluid wraith
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on trash in m+ im usually just sending block on cd which seems generally fine with the exception of there being a tank buster in the pack. kind of struggling on tyrannical bosses when i need to save a charge of block for a mechanic. feels like am squish.

strong forum
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Just blasting rage into IP is not gonna help you be a wall of a tank. Using your toolkit perfectly is, knowning when you can pump

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Well you're also undergeard af

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Prot needs gear to function well

outer solstice
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yeah better to not waste SB

strong forum
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More than other tanks

outer solstice
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instead of trying to fix it with IP

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IP not doing that much

clear pond
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i have high vers instead of high haste is that bad

plush tendon
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nope

outer solstice
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if it's the best you can get nope

strong forum
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Not bad

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I prefer big dick haste

clear pond
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like 31% vers 16% haste

strong forum
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That's fine

outer solstice
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you'll get your gear

strong forum
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Im closing in on 30% haste Pepexecute

fluid wraith
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yeah i have 26% haste at 200 ilvl and ojnly like 7% vers

outer solstice
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onec you can choose stats because you get items of same ilvl it get's better

dreamy bay
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i have 900 haste, 200 vers, gonna be fun 😄

strong forum
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Vers doesn't matter unless you push the highest of high keys

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In raiding once you're geard it's entirely irrelevant what your stats are

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Raibsen

outer solstice
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vers scales damage of on use trinkets though 😛

dreamy bay
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ok, then i have no worries

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i'm 226 in furygear, 210 1h weap and shield

strong forum
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The haste > vers rule for raiding applies anyway

outer solstice
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that shield

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oof @dreamy bay

strong forum
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Haste is our single most important stat, and people full committing to vers is just to cushion the blows in mega keys a bit

outer solstice
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or because that#s the best gear they can get, especially from PvP

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I lost soooo much haste 😦

strong forum
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Even with 30% vers it's only 15% dmg reduction, but you lose a shitton of haste which means you lose out on rage and SBs

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That's my take on it

outer solstice
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yeah

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haste is the superior defensive stat

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for us

strong forum
outer solstice
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can we trade? I share some mastery with you, trading for haste

strong forum
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No >:)

outer solstice
strong forum
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I wanna get rid of my shield and weapon though, both have 0 haste...

outer solstice
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yeah same...

deep steppe
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just drop them on the ground 4head

outer solstice
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I have sooo many items without haste...

strong forum
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Na shield and weapon are my only slots without haste

outer solstice
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I have a few more, like helmet and gloves

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and because the helmet is shit I wait on putting a socket on it...

sick sentinel
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which Soulbind for Prot in keys as Necro?

plush tendon
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Bonesmith or emeni

sick sentinel
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thank you 😄

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Do tanks go for endurence or Potency

clear pond
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aight a bit more balanced, fuckin pvp gear having mastery on it sucks

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plush tendon
sick sentinel
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ah ok

strong forum
lofty widget
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any jelly boys?

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clear pond
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You should see it when I put on all that vers gear again, 23 rating, total

keen oasis
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I don't see how The wall can be more powerful in raid tho

viscid coyote
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i see guides recommending Ravager pretty universally for m+, how much of a hindrance would going Unstoppable Force instead be? Seems like it could be particularly good with Necro and coordinating CDs for big pulls in theory, but not sure if its considerably worse in practice

uneven mason
keen oasis
uneven mason
viscid coyote
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havent given ravager a lot of play, but the little bit I did it felt kinda meh

viscid coyote
sweet summit
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UF is kinda eh yeah

uneven mason
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Ravager is 1 GCD for a ton of rage and damage

sweet summit
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it creates an awkward rotation

uneven mason
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with a low CD

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leaving you free to pump Revenge and SS

sweet summit
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where you want to spam both revenge and tc

viscid coyote
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alright, ill get more play with Ravager in then adn see if i cant adjust to it

sweet summit
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its barely worse dps wise on like 5 targets

strong forum
obtuse prism
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stupid question incoming: if I take one of the new valor upgradable pieces and put a socket in it - do I loose the socket when I upgrade the piece? [not prot war specific question, sorry]

grand drum
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you shouldnt

strong forum
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But after some closing testing reprisal can be pulled off alot better in raid than initially thought

uneven mason
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and can't always zoom around the room to make full use of charge on CD

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TW also gives you more reliable use of our best mitigation CD, for when you really need it.

craggy pilot
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whats better? Can upgrade the left one to 213, or should i wait for the one from TOP?

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viscid coyote
rich willow
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is necro still the worst cove for prot?

sweet summit
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you can play UF in dungeons and ItF in raids yeah

#

necro is kinda both ways atm

#

its great if you know what youre doing

rich willow
#

ah

sweet summit
#

kinda bad if you dont

keen oasis
craggy pilot
sweet summit
#

can u get a 220 from valor

strong forum
craggy pilot
#

only did 3x15 so far

#

trying to push the rest

#

but not getting invited as 212 and 1100 rio 😦

strong forum
#

With 212 you can easily do 15s

craggy pilot
#

ye

strong forum
#

But there are tanks qing with 225 ilvl

#

So why should they invite you lol

craggy pilot
#

but not easy when no one invites me :<

strong forum
#

Just make your own group.

craggy pilot
#

ye only have a +13 tho

uneven mason
#

so push it

craggy pilot
#

need to boost the key

strong forum
#

Push it then.

uneven mason
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mighty valley
#

yeah just push it up, you get valor from it anyway

uneven mason
#

☝️

craggy pilot
#

just did Reprisal to 225, now im 215 ilvl 😄

mighty valley
#

then when you get it to 15 you'll start a 15 next week

craggy pilot
#

dont like add week

#

boss week so much easier 😦

mighty valley
#

eh, if your group fucks up a boss on tyrannical week, it's over

astral crystal
#

bolster week 🤮

craggy pilot
#

@strong forum is it worth to spend valor upgrading the Shield tho? if i will just replace it when i get the TOP Shield

west adder
#

as long as the current shield is still viable and u dont feel like paper i´d stick with it and go for the TOP one, since u wanna have it at some point anyway

mighty valley
#

personally i would pump that shield and be pretty happy, small difference between the two

strong forum
#

Any haste shield is good enough

mighty valley
#

might drive yourself mad hunting for one specific item

west adder
#

but if the shield will help u, do your keystone master or progress in raid upgrade your current one

strong forum
#

If you grind anyway just grind the shield, if you hit cap, just upgrade your current one

rancid ember
#

Valor system is hot what you mean

uneven mason
fallen raft
#

Is the new reprisal legendary going to make prot war insane in keys? I’m ab to reroll tank mains from prot pal

rancid ember
#

Never dropped whole time finally got 210 yesterday and almost 220 already feelsgoodman

clear pond
#

🤢

uneven mason
#

WTF is that screenshot sideways and taken with a cellphone

#

snipping tool man

shell hare
#

Had to turn my head for thag

#

But not disappointed

rancid ember
#

Lmao was sent to a group text mb

uneven mason
#

and turndown your backlight jeezus

rancid ember
#

Bastion 😦

shell hare
#

and he got a phial

uneven mason
#

going to have no eyeballs left

shell hare
#

This man can’t miss!!

fallen raft
#

Is reprisal as good as everyone is making it out to be though?

shell hare
#

Yes

rancid ember
#

226 Phial also feelsgood 5% of my dam

shell hare
#

I use a decanter 😔

craggy pilot
#

Revenge 20% of my dmg, should i press it more? 😄

uneven mason
rancid ember
#

I have a 226 decanter too but usually does like 3-4%. Phial usually 4.5 - 5%

shell hare
#

You just gotta pull bigger groups so that decanter will out perform phial 🙂

#

Don’t think that’s possible tho it’s really mediocre

uneven mason
#

How good reprisal is, has been blown out of proportion, but warriors are generally a downtrodden lot, so when we get something that is "ok" we tend to act like a starving dog who just got into the deli counter.

rancid ember
#

I think Phial still beats Decanter on AoE

shell hare
#

I mean I was tanking higher keys with signet I think reprisal is nice as hell

astral crystal
uneven mason
#

Its true ¯_(ツ)_/¯

astral crystal
#

ya i agree honestly

uneven mason
#

Prot is fine regardless of lego, reprisal addresses our QoL issues and newb traps

#

reduces the skill floor, raises the ceiling

astral crystal
#

i havent pushed above 18 because my group's just not particularly interested, but i know we're capable

#

and i can't see reprisal beating out the wall in higher keys

#

where you use swall constantly

uneven mason
#

its a damage thing.

astral crystal
#

gotta stay alive to do dam tho Target

shell hare
#

Any excuse to take BSC

sweet summit
#

yes

#

big dam

#

📈

strong forum
#

You play BSC if you play reprisal or seismic

#

Yes

#

There is your excuse

shell hare
#

Exactly that’s why I don’t play wall

#

Also because I don’t have ash for it

strong forum
#

Wall is also just weaker

#

Now

#

Reprisal is big stonks

astral crystal
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

prisma bear
#

i wish there was some way to let blizzard know how much more fun and more balanced the meta would be if they made it 6s again

gaunt crane
#

will it remain 6 secs now btw?

#

oh

#

guess not xD

shell hare
#

Maybe it really is needed in 17+ tho and I have the luxury of spamming revenge in 16s

thin ore
#

if I craft reprisal as my only lego for general purpose trivial content on an alt, what do I go for? legs with haste+versa?

shell hare
#

The wall that is

uneven mason
thin ore
#

does prot warri have like a haste breakpoint which is nice to get or a value where things shift towards versa or sth?

uneven mason
#

nope

thin ore
#

a bare minimum which makes the rotation flow better

#

?

uneven mason
#

nope

surreal sinew
#

more haste more haste more haste

uneven mason
#

haste until the end of days

thin ore
#

I have 11% now and sometimes I have nothing to press apart from unprocced revenge which feels meh

astral crystal
surreal sinew
#

it will get better with haste yeah

uneven mason
#

Yeah, but you'll never sacrifice Ilvl to obtain that

astral crystal
#

i'm constantly at 33-34% haste so it plays super smooth

#

right

thin ore
#

not even on jewlery?

uneven mason
#

eh

#

sometimes on jewelery

gaunt crane
#

33 holy moly thats big numbers

thin ore
#

I am trying to get a feel for itemization right away although it's completely irrelevant for a fresh char :D

#

I also bought dd:indomitable because it cost like 1k gold for ilvl and holy cow: it is bad.

sweet summit
#

ye :/

strong forum
#

It's a trap

#

Buy voracity

#

That is actually a good trinket

#

Around 25% haste is when prot starts to be real smooth imo

#

More is obv better

#

Now with reprisal it's not as noticeable cuz you get a ton of rage and SB from stuff that's nto affected by haste

#

But having big haste and anime emitter is huge for SB uptime and rage gain

copper lava
#

so I am torn, I read, and have been told ignore pain is kinda useless and its better to spend rage on damage but idk when there is a lot of magic damage hits like some bosses I use it for the magic portion of the hit like hakkar?

strong forum
#

It's not so white and black...

#

You still use IP a ton

floral pewter
#

IP is not useless, and mitigating boss mechanics with it is smart

strong forum
#

But you have to know and feel that our yourself

#

When to use what

floral pewter
#

you just don't have to spam it all the time in every fight

strong forum
#

This is still my IP use in keys

unknown-41.png
#

Still a ton of casts

copper lava
#

damn

strong forum
#

You don't exclusively do 1 or the other

copper lava
#

vulpera is strong asf

strong forum
#

You do both

#

Ye it is

copper lava
#

I need to race change

delicate iron
#

Don't overcap it and try to use it if you know you will take some damage

#

If you use IP and i expires then you probably didn't need it

copper lava
#

I am a baby war so I feel squishy asf

strong forum
#

It's one of the hardest tanks and requires ilvl

#

So yeah. Practice practice practice

copper lava
#

for sure

strong forum
#

Prolly the hardest tank now

#

Tbh

#

With reprisal

copper lava
#

I got the reprisal lego last night

strong forum
#

Or well highest skill ceiling defo

copper lava
#

that is fun asf

mighty valley
#

yeah it's kind of weird, you'd think blizzard would try and make the basic, iconic tank class easier on new players

astral crystal
#

high skill cieling yep low reward dandy

strong forum
#

I don't mind it

mighty valley
#

though i guess new players all make blood elf paladins, so they're easier

strong forum
#

Makes me look better

uneven mason
#

Warrior certainly benefits the most from experience in the content you're doing. Knowledge of what packs will require which tool from our kit is imperative to doing well.

copper lava
#

I didn't see it in the pins btw but anyone know where I can find an @ cursors macro for heroic leap?

uneven mason
#

/cast [@cursor] Heroic Leap?

strong forum
#

/cast [@cursor] heroic leap

#

You did like 90% of the macro yourself already

#

Lol

copper lava
#

lol awesome

#

sorry never needed one before

#

coming from baer

strong forum
#

I guess

uneven mason
#

"IfI wanted to get somewhere I"d just cat"

copper lava
#

^

#

or now soul shape haha

snow harbor
#

Hmm. What do you guys think about:
#showtooltip Intervene
/cast [@focus,help,nodead][@mouseover,exists,help,nodead] [] Intervene

#

Will work? Not home yet. Can't test

strong forum
#

Too many parameters, some of that stuff is redundant but it should work but if you have a focus it'll always prio the focus target

clear pond
#

I went with:
#showtooltip Intervene
/targetfriend
/cast [mod:ctrl,@focus,help][@mouseover,help][help] Intervene
/targetlasttarget
I dont give a shit who it hits, but someones gettin intervened

strong forum
#

I just aim my mouse into melee camp when I wanna intervene

#

Works 👍

#

No focus shenanigans

languid mason
#

yooooooo

#

im back we back

jagged pier
#

we farming tonight bois

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languid mason
#

warriors on top

sweet summit
#

u dont use party frames? 👀

languid mason
#

jeeez

#

oh wait wat

snow harbor
#

Hmm if I put @cursor before focus will it always prio cursor?

clear pond
#

party frames wtf are those :D

strong forum
languid mason
#

wtf are thooooose

sweet summit
#

[@mouseover] not cursor

#

oh raid ye ok

strong forum
jagged pier
snow harbor
#

Yis. Thinking more for tanking m+. Focus a melee

strong forum
#

Imagine doing heroic day3 of a fresh patch

languid mason
#

yo guys quick question, jus dinged 60 got 181 ilvl wat leggo should i focus on first good for M+ and Raiding

jagged pier
#

that when are casual raid is

#

🤷

open monolith
#

I did heroic day 1 and got a couple 100 (for ilvl) parses on my survival hunter

#

Basically, I'm the best SV hunter in the game.

strong forum
#

Imagine playing the game outside of main raid

uneven mason
languid mason
#

jeeeeeeez

#

ty

#

legs or feet

#

?!

#

or dont matter

strong forum
#

Legs

languid mason
#

jeeeeeeeez ❤️ for that fam

open monolith
#

why do you keep saying jeez

vocal cave
#

what does block amount scale off? strength and shield ilvl?

snow harbor
#

Morty

sweet summit
#

block value

#

and the content ur doing

strong forum
languid mason
#

cuz im overwhelmed with the fact that i can play prot again

#

jeeeeez

strong forum
#

I mean.

languid mason
#

started sl with blood dka dn moved to DH for meta

open monolith
#

That's weird. You're weird.

strong forum
#

It was perfectly fine all of SL

languid mason
#

but mans on that demon shit

#

and then wen annouced that warriors will be good again i was like waaaaat

open monolith
#

...

languid mason
#

well before man couldnt really pug +20 keys innit

uneven mason
#

"will be good again"

languid mason
#

on a warrior

#

was jus basic

open monolith
#

innit...

languid mason
#

done kno

open monolith
#

doesn't innit mean, "isn't it"?

languid mason
#

yea fam

open monolith
#

that doesn't really fit in that sentence.

#

at all

languid mason
#

not really

strong forum
#

It's a British thing

languid mason
#

facts

strong forum
#

Innit m8

languid mason
#

this is warrior channel not harvard wow

#

k thx

#

lol

uneven mason
#

sorry bruvh

languid mason
#

bruva bless up

#

lol

#

mandem must be like wtf

open monolith
#

I hate absolutely everything about what has happened in this chat over the last few minutes.

languid mason
#

man jus came in the channel with all this UK vibez

sweet summit
#

bruv

languid mason
#

hey sock i might jus put u on my third foot u nah mean

copper lava
#

Reprisal is so much fun to play with

open monolith
#

the way you talk is upsetting

errant oriole
#

Hey guys i see the stat priority but i see a lot of prot wars going more vers atm? Is there a reason behind this?

languid mason
#

facts

uneven mason
open monolith
#

vers gives a little bit of damage and a little bit of defense.

compact palm
#

This channel is mostly UK na players don't care enough to learn

uneven mason
#

@chilly brook wtf

strong forum
languid mason
#

doesnt verse work out like 1% versatility grants a 1% increase to ur damage, healing, and absorbs, and reduces the damage u take by 0.5% or sumn like that

patent osprey
languid mason
#

PLKAttv?

patent osprey
#

ZYM :O?

copper lava
#

shhh

languid mason
#

yes!

#

jeeeez

uneven mason
#

Vers offers passive DR which helps with getting slapped in the butt since in high keys you can't generate enough rage to IP it while pumping DPS for aggro

copper lava
languid mason
#

thanks to PLKA and TATTMAN

#

mans back on warrior

#

bless up bro

#

man owe u a sub u get me

open monolith
copper lava
#

Plka got me excited about war before 9.0.5 not going to lie, and not simping. just real talk

languid mason
#

of course

#

mans a legend fam

#

clearly

mighty valley
#

this pure uk massive energy melting sock's brain is the funniest thing that's happened in this channel

languid mason
#

@patent osprey the ultimate

uneven mason
open monolith
#

UK energy doesn't bother me. Whatever the hell this is, though...

languid mason
#

hey @open monolith wat brand are u

#

u must be hanes or some shit

open monolith
#

It's like.... a caricature of a stereotype has come to life and started typing

languid mason
#

stretch out quick

azure oracle
#

how hard is reprisal to play with vs the wall?

open monolith
#

a bit

uneven mason
#

Man sock I hope you never have to work with a HK guild and decipher kk thx la~

languid mason
#

actually yea how hard

open monolith
#

I also hope that I don't have to do that.

azure oracle
#

it souns good but knowing myself i dont know how much i coul utilise it

strong forum
#

It's raises the skill ceiling and floor a bit

copper lava
#

I know I am a newb but I have just been using it on w/e melee is in party with me

languid mason
#

cuz u have to utilize charge and intervene innit?

open monolith
#

It is definitely... different from normal play. Takes some thought, watching timers, pressing oGCDs you wouldn't normally press

uneven mason
#

watch timers?

strong forum
#

Takes a bit of practice and knowledge to pull off

copper lava
#

on pull I do healer > charge mob

uneven mason
#

make WAs that pop when they're available~

mighty valley
#

reprisal adds an extra button at the low end, and then there are more opportunities to get fancy to maximize it. TW is just "actually use SW bruh"

languid mason
#

but once u get it, should be good?

strong forum
#

But not overwhelmingly hard

compact palm
#

I started tracking intervene with weak auras so i can max uptime

mighty valley
#

even if you're just getting value from the charge and intervene on close to cooldown you get a lot out of it

compact palm
#

Pressing it on cd still feels bad tho

open monolith
#

can't say that I Agree with that statement

mighty valley
#

I thought it would be annoying but just doing it on mouseover on a random melee unitframe is fine

open monolith
#

if you need it on CD, press it on CD. feels good

strong forum
#

Intervene on CD is good

uneven mason
#

pressing intervene has a sound effect now

strong forum
#

Feels really good tbh

#

Wish I had more intervenes

uneven mason
#

CHUNK

#

that shield comin up

open monolith
#

intervening a target that was point blank used to feel... bad. No animation, no sound, no movement

uneven mason
#

the biggest thing is getting over slapping SB on engage

open monolith
#

nice that they added a sound.

languid mason
#

@open monolith so would it make sense to create spacing for that to utilize the charges etc to get the extra block off or nah

#

if that makes sense

open monolith
#

Why not press SB on engage?

languid mason
#

like while in fights etc

uneven mason
#

because triple revenge

#

pumping first

chilly brook
#

@uneven mason y u tag me

strong forum
#

You wanna get CDs rolling on SB charge and intervene

uneven mason
#

Another (Matt) showed up

strong forum
#

For maximum uptime

open monolith
#

hmm. i'd think you'd want to get SB on CD asap

uneven mason
#

had to make sure you didn't namechange

azure oracle
#

hmmm

open monolith
#

better than pumping out a triple revenge.

strong forum
#

^

open monolith
#

Especially since triple revenge wastes our potency conduit

uneven mason
chilly brook
strong forum
#

If you can delay charge and intervene by 1 global tho to revenge is still fine

sweet summit
#

???????????????????

strong forum
#

I AM ROSJEN

languid mason
#

@open monolith yo fam help me out

open monolith
sweet summit
#

@chilly brook explain

azure oracle
#

but, how is the wall in mythics?

sweet summit
#

u throwing shade or

azure oracle
#

if i wouldt go with reprisal

uneven mason
strong forum
#

It was good in 9.0

#

Reprisal is just infinitely better

chilly brook
#

RIP Rosjen

sweet summit
#

RIP

tawny kayak
#

How impactful is the dropoff from Kyrian to Venthyr for prot? I love tanking on occasion but condemn is so fun for fury/arms play. Feels a lot more fun than SoB but the venthyr dropoff for tank spec feels bigger than the Kyrian drop off for dps.

mighty valley
#

i'm venthyr, i'm living, follow your dreams

sweet summit
#

im also venthyr

#

u do u buddy

open monolith
#

what's a Rosjen

sweet summit
#

i believe in u

uneven mason
languid mason
#

so wats wrong with kyrian now?

#

not really meta for prot

#

?

open monolith
#

says who

sweet summit
#

sock doesnt know the ancient skyhold lore :/

uneven mason
#

Nothing

open monolith
#

Kyrian is still great.

uneven mason
#

all 4 are goo

languid mason
#

ok

compact palm
#

I mean it feels wrong to not be using to soak other things for your team

open monolith
#

Educate me, Erga

#

what is a Rosjen

compact palm
#

Late btw

languid mason
#

jeeeez

strong forum
#

Going form kyrian to venthyr causes you to lose m+ dps

#

And phial

#

That's about it

uneven mason
#

Biggest issue with NL is I have to answer the "Why arn't you doing NL to buff us" from my guild

tawny kayak
#

Phial feels big

chilly brook
#

@sweet summit who am I kidding anyways I main a warrior I cant have standards

open monolith
#

you also lose angel mommies

chilly brook
open monolith
#

and that's never worth

tawny kayak
#

But I'm also kinda bad so maybe that's why

sweet summit
#

you lose overall dps, but you bring more pride/boss damage

uneven mason
#

and I have to say "Why arn't you doing enough damage for it to be worthwhile"

sweet summit
compact palm
#

Why aren't u necro

#

Kek

tawny kayak
#

Do we use condemn for damage reduction?

sweet summit
#

on st ye

#

use it over ip

tawny kayak
#

Or is it just a rage dump?

#

Oh shit

#

Actually?

sweet summit
#

yae

uneven mason
#

yes

chilly brook
#

Yes

languid mason
#

i thought if u pug alot kyrian is dope unlike necro for more organized groups?

tawny kayak
#

Fuck

sweet summit
#

kyrian/nf is epic

#

ye

uneven mason
tawny kayak
#

Gotta go beg the vampire daddies to take me back.

patent osprey
#

TBH, I think Reprisal is a bad legendary for Prot warriors to use. It reduces our overall utility to find ways to have more SB uptime. Like stunning so you can walk out and charge instead of stunning a certain cast. Intervening on CD instead of using it to save a team member. Yes it can work sometimes where you are doing both, but most of the time, its just to get SB up. It ruins our utility alot ^.^

tawny kayak
#

...

#

"bad" or not best?

languid mason
#

@patent osprey said it on stream i believe the man innit

patent osprey
#

Bad for us, doesn't mean its not good or bis ^.^

strong forum
#

I understand the sentiment

open monolith
#

Pika stop saying things that are wrong

strong forum
#

And where you're coming from

azure oracle
#

i see

uneven mason
#

"bad" in the fact that it forces us into bad habits

patent osprey
#

I just think its bad design

strong forum
#

But it's so much fun to play imo

tawny kayak
#

Ah ah

umbral cave
#

does avatar impact our spear dmg? should we be trying to line those 2 up at all?

uneven mason
#

its amazing for what it does, we just sacrifice a lot to do it.

languid mason
#

jeeeeez this is gonna be a debate now

sweet summit
#

i agree for the most part

chilly brook
#

From Sire @tawny kayak

Screenshot_20210312-130019_Samsung_Internet.jpg
tawny kayak
#

I agree. It reads a bit awkward.

strong forum
#

But yeah they are taking away utility

tawny kayak
#

LOL

languid mason
#

i havent crafted any leggo yet need to kno wats BIS now plz some one help

azure oracle
#

i just wanted a leggo that was easy to manage

patent osprey
#

Can you save this guy ? nope, had to shield block ^.^

strong forum
#

Reprisal is bis

uneven mason
languid mason
#

me too

azure oracle
#

only have signet atm for tanking lol

chilly brook
#

I agree I dislike sacrificing movement and utility for dr

uneven mason
#

big pipes

chilly brook
#

But hey

open monolith
#

oh no, muh non-existent warrior utility 😦

chilly brook
#

It's what we got

languid mason
#

@patent osprey wen u streaming fam

patent osprey
#

WTB competent warrior legendary design ^.^

proper pecan
#

If you swap covenant, what will happen with anime in vault?

uneven mason
chilly brook
#

It stays in that covenants vault

#

@proper pecan

patent osprey
#

@languid mason not sure ^.^

tawny kayak
#

Side note if you go back to a covenant with completed story do you have to replay the whole story again?

chilly brook
#

Aka you start at 0 with the new one

chilly brook
tawny kayak
#

Pog

chilly brook
#

Pick up where you left off

tawny kayak
#

Do you get free renown levels for what you've completed?

proper pecan
languid mason
#

if u gonna switch covs do it a day before reset so if u change ur mind the rejoin quests are back 2 back

craggy harness
#

No, he means if you were Kyrian 40, switch to Ventyhr to get to 20, and go back kyrian, you're 40

languid mason
#

a day apart as opposed to waiting a week or 2

tawny kayak
#

Oh shit actually?

#

Nice

languid mason
#

yea and dat

#

yes actually

rugged fog
#

I don’t think it works that way

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Think it has its own timer

languid mason
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it doesnt

craggy harness
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i was going by a guildie's info lol

languid mason
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u guildie needs a check up

chilly brook
languid mason
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maybe a thunderclap

proper pecan
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Thanks

strong forum
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The covenant you leave will stay the at the renown you left it at once you rejoin

languid mason
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dont worry bruv its easy

strong forum
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The new covenant you join starts at 0

mild ruin
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Hey all, tanking my first key above a 3 on prot warrior, any advice on ilvl before I push in to 10s?

strong forum
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And saves the progress once you leave again

languid mason
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get ur ilvl up and skill and kno routes

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to be honest if u kno ur routes its easy

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no matter wat gear u have

uneven mason
strong forum
languid mason
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as long as ur team has sense

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u ge tme

mild ruin
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I know routes ect, am 1700 rio on dudu tank, just not confident with warrio

rugged fog
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“While these are weekly quests, they are no longer tied specifically to the weekly reset, but rather have an internal timer of their own. Thus, raiding on the day before reset and switching your covenant in time for a Mythic+ the next day by gaming the weekly reset is no longer an option.
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From wowhead dam

uneven mason
rugged fog
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Fam

languid mason
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lol

lavish oracle
turbid cargo
languid mason
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yow MDI is on who watching

lavish oracle
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It's interesting but like not in a way that I think Blizzard really intended

patent osprey
rugged fog
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Rekt

uneven mason
patent osprey
languid mason
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lolol

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oh also guys

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big question

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very big

turbid cargo
patent osprey
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The wall is a good legendary ^.^

open monolith
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Imagine if Warrior had Memory of Ursoc's Fury

uneven mason
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Doesn't do a ton for our power

languid mason
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seeing this week is shit in affixes if u low on ilvl kinda would make sense not to talent ravage cuz we not gonna pull big groups

open monolith
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imagine if warrior had the ironbark legendary

uneven mason
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its a solid increase in our CD use

languid mason
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is unstoppable force ok for this week

uneven mason
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but even as a CD The Wall lego literally brings us into par with a baseline CD that others have?

lavish oracle
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Sure, but comparatively, reprisal gives a lot more uptime than the wall

plush saffron
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Brew has two leggos that add a ton of damage

uneven mason
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I mean TW does increase our Dmg

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5 rage on SS can't be ignored

plush saffron
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lol

turbid cargo
languid mason
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or ah

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nah

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?

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????

patent osprey
# turbid cargo i mean The Wall lol

The critique isn't that we don't have any that give us player power, it is that one of the most powerful or maybe THE most powerful one, forces bad habits/gameplay

plush saffron
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thats nothing compared to 30% increased keg smash or charred

uneven mason
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UF Is never ok

strong forum
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UF is fine ish, but ravager is slightly better @languid mason

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UF fucks your rotation

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And is less rage gain

uneven mason
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just forces you to use a lot of GCDs

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that could be used on pumping revenge

turbid cargo
uneven mason
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Nah, the other tank legos that have substantial power gains, promote good gameplay

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like the CRW revamp

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that is a solid example of making things that work

languid mason
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ok

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thx @strong forum

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so many moves to bind on my bars

plush saffron
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reprisal and CRW are bandaids

languid mason
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while DH is jus a few

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lol

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wat about into the fray

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?

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???

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or nah

uneven mason
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good for raiding

vocal cave
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do I need to land killing blows for emeni haste trait?

uneven mason
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ravager generally grabbed for aggro purposes

languid mason
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yea

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bruv warriors have too many moves yow

uneven mason
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I Know

languid mason
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so much shit to press

tawny kayak
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Do we use draven for Venthyr or are umbrella bois OP?

languid mason
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ffs

uneven mason
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in BFA it was like "This is it, stay here, all Xpac"

river basin
uneven mason
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Now we've got choices

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and people are losing their minds

languid mason
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world gone mad

plush saffron
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people are simple and just want to be told what the meta is

uneven mason
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because they're ACTUAL CHOICES

strong forum
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Pwar has like 35 binds

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Ye

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30-35