the boomer pwarr
#protection
brittle owl
sick sentinel
ZOOM
brittle owl
that doesnt want to zoom
lavish oracle
I'm not a numbers man
strong forum
pwar got a decent chunk better, but uprising, idk
solemn magnet
Yes, and yes I'm sure but bet it's temporary
uneven mason
We're going to see a lot of FOtM chasers roll prot and then give up when they can't figure out why they're getting flattened in +8s
lavish oracle
This discord has gotten significantly more full over the last few weeks, if that's any indication
uneven mason
It has.
solemn magnet
Imo, most people will not enjoy the reprisal playstyle
lavish oracle
I like it
solemn magnet
Even tho everyone in here seems okay with it so far
lavish oracle
little wonky at times
solemn magnet
Fotm people will get annoyed by it easily
vague crest
Fotm? Following the meta?
vague crest
Aha 😂
lavish oracle
I'm sure my pally friend will be pleased
uneven mason
FOTM is just people who roll whatever is doing best, even without knowing WHY its "the best"
lavish oracle
a bad warrior is easier to heal than a bad DH
outer bronze
should you line up every aftershock with avatar as NF with AM?
uneven mason
who can't even use devastation properly
uneven mason
should you line up every aftershock with avatar as NF with AM?
You can, the breakpoint being around 12seconds
if you have to delay longer than that its not worth it
you'll miss casts per run
vague crest
Prot is hard, I’m really jealous of you guys who can play the spec good.
lavish oracle
God, I wanna swap Night Fae but also don't wanna end up in 5 night fae dungeons 😄
outer bronze
gotcha, thanks. i assume that you are running the nf conduit too? @uneven mason
uneven mason
apes I tell you.
yeah Nes
mostly because what other potency conduit am I going to use? Ashen?
outer bronze
lol true
uneven mason
I cringe because sometime I want to try other builds
jagged granite
hey any boys tried Necro yet?
uneven mason
but all the other good ones have 2 potency in them
and that isn't even close to feasible for prot
mild ruin
I’ve tried necro today tanka, between buffing group and fleshcraft im happy
chilly brook
@uneven mason I was helping a guilty level last night and bro
The amount of fotm prot woyers leveling rn
Most of them running dumb talent builds
mild ruin
Raises hand
jagged granite
I’ve tried necro today tanka, between buffing group and fleshcraft im happy
So did you come from kyrian? Missing spear?
mild ruin
I’m a FOTM reroller, went straight to necro so admittedly I don’t have the knowledge of what I’ve lost but I wouldn’t change from necro tbh now, fleshcraft is consistently 2nd highest healing in M+ and banner is so fun if you play premades
strong forum
youre not running indom?
cuz like
this is what my healing breakdown looks like
idk how fleshcraft could come even close to that
mild ruin
I guess I’m doing low enough keys to not be doing IP often enough :p
keen oasis
Vulpera OP
shut summit
🦊
jagged granite
ITs not so much about fleshcraft as about the buffing of the party I guess
jagged granite
Which one?
strong forum
that fleshcraft is 2nd on healing
mossy sluice
how big is the fleshcraft shield
strong forum
like 25k
jagged granite
40% hp?
solemn magnet
It can be like 60k
Edit: I'm bad at math. My highest is like 34k
strong forum
its comparable to bloodscale tbh
mild ruin
I’m getting a fleshcraft shield once a minute ish and tryna buff it when I can
lavish oracle
The fact they buffed scale to me is still nutty, lol
strong forum
its not a scale specific buff
strong forum
they addressed how the hidden values get rounded
lavish oracle
I know, they buffed a bunch of non stat trinkets
strong forum
not even that
final gorge
Is it possible to parse as a necrolord?
strong forum
they just changed how values get rounded, and that in turn buffed secondary scaling trinkets by 10%ish cuz they rounded up, and nerfed mainstat scaling trinkets by like 0.01% cuz they got rounded down
distant crystal
they just aura buffed every bit of dmg, healing, absorb on raid & dungeon trinkets
lavish oracle
interesting
distant crystal
no?
distant crystal
tf is an OPC
lavish oracle
wasn't it by like 1 crit or something
lavish oracle
it's dead
sweet summit
🦀
strong forum
Is it possible to parse as a necrolord?
yes
jagged granite
but Is there anyone here whom actually tried necro coming from kyrian on like, 17ish keys?
strong forum
Plka
lavish oracle
the fact that it stays on the first 2 targets that were hit by it, is actually pretty nice for QoL
verbal viper
what charge/intervene macro u guys using? i saw someone posted one that priortizes your mouse over target but it was like 5,000 messages ago lol
fair vector
Hey warriors, quick question: i've recently started tanking 15s-16s on my offspec (I'm arms venthyr) and I was wondering which soulbind was best to use between theotar and draven as I keep niya for arms
median tulip
what charge/intervene macro u guys using? i saw someone posted one that priorti...
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead, exists]Charge;[@mouseover, help, nodead, exists]Intervene;[harm, nodead, exists]Charge; [nodead, help, exists]Intervene```On that macro
It will randomly target whatever harm near you and charge
I've pulled bosses like that :p
keen oasis
I prefer those skills split
lavish oracle
/cast [@mouseover, help] Intervene; [@mouseover, harm] [harm] Charge; Intervene
Is what I have
jagged granite
Aza does yours automaticly target smtng If you dont have a target?
spiral perch
#showtooltip Intervene
/cast [@mouseover,help.nodead] Intervene
something like that
lavish oracle
No, not sure how you'd go about that, Tanka, never looked into it
I'd feel weird about intervening a target at random
mossy sluice
yeah thats cringe
jagged granite
Its not intervening targets on random
Its the charge you gotta worry about
hahah
kindred raptor
How good is the Pulsating stoneheart as a defensive trinket?
distant crystal
you could make it intervene like
party5 or something
if you wanted but still p bad
sweet summit
How good is the Pulsating stoneheart as a defensive trinket?
trash
verbal viper
I've been using this
#showtooltip Charge
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge
kindred raptor
:/ Ok
sweet summit
😔
distant crystal
exists and nodead are redundant fyi
sweet summit
it is what it is
distant crystal
err
jagged granite
#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast Hamstring
distant crystal
exists and harm
jagged granite
I use this
distant crystal
harm checks for exist
verbal viper
ok thx
lusty coyote
Can an argument be made for Best Served Cold how that revenge i used more frequently ?
sweet summit
ya defo
strong forum
yes
spice shadow
Definitely, revenge damage is back up top now
strong forum
if youre using reprisal or seismic you play BSC
small oxide
Any venthyr prot warriors? Can't decide what soulbind tree to use
With reprisal, I feel like I never get Hold your Ground up
wind moon
whats the best soulbind for nercolords?
sturdy sable
Any venthyr prot warriors? Can't decide what soulbind tree to use
Nadjia
modern snow
whats the best soulbind for nercolords?
I simp for my queen, Emina.
wind moon
whats what i was think for the bonus for the banner right?
modern snow
It is not the best nor the worst, its simply what I use. If i'm banner whoring for my premade, i might aswell dedicate to it.
Fleshcraft while moving is BIS QOL
open hornet
Now people have had chance to try the changes out, what legendary is better for overall content?
I'm not gonna be pushing 18s but I wanna raid and m+
modern snow
open hornet
Ty
sterile moss
reprisal has been great for m+ and even some raid fights, but Wall is still the go-to for many/most raid fights
modern snow
^
open hornet
I do intend to get both, but I levelled a new warr to try out tanking as a necro (I enjoy venthyr fury to much to swap entirely) so trying to decide what I take first
modern snow
i started reprisal, it is incredible for early gearing proccess
open hornet
Yeah I'm thinking that is prob my best bet initially
modern snow
Perma SB uptime as long as you intervene and charge on Cd
open hornet
Ye
open hornet
Shockwave leap charge if in longer fights the way to go for it?
modern snow
I intervene a ranged and re-charge.
open hornet
Trying to figure out how to use my abilities effectively
open hornet
Isnt that overlapping the buffs though
modern snow
Doesn't matter if i sack 1 revenge, i'm out for the SB time.
open hornet
Or do you get enough uptime regardless?
Ye I wasnt concerned about the revenge it was sb I was concerned about mostly
solemn magnet
Or intervene a melee and take storm bolt 😝
modern snow
As long as you dont cap your timer (x3 of initial duration) then ur good
mossy sluice
storm bolt is really fuckin good
modern snow
Storm bolt is reccomendable, yes.
open hornet
Yeah taking doubletime instead of storm bolt in m+ might feel bad
Do people generally still take stormbolt?
open hornet
Cool
I'm so glad legendary powers are account wide also
Having to get them all again would have been annoying
hardy pawn
We've been outed boys
sweet summit
i demand answers
mossy sluice
someone @ him
small oxide
I smell a rat
modern snow
lofty widget
Why is that Listed as a bug?? Its clearly a feature!
hardy pawn
Of course, the bug was saying 4s
long coral
Hey! I just leveled a warrior alt to push keys. currently like 1900 io (Rogue). Do you think for high keys that necro will be needed for the defensive?
strong forum
no
long coral
So kyrian damage is high enough that it should be fine if you dont have a doomkin convoke with every flag?
hardy pawn
long coral
i did D:
deep steppe
So kyrian damage is high enough that it should be fine if you dont have a doomki...
I mean Plka was doing all 21/22's before we even got the banner change so
its obviously not needed
jagged pier
the thing is banner isnt as big as ppl think it is some guy was in here early changing back just because it didnt buff as much as he thought it did
long coral
@deep steppe Thanks! Im thinking the snare prob helps for kiting more than the necro shield will prevent
deep steppe
the thing is banner isnt as big as ppl think it is some guy was in here early ch...
its like what, 3% max on some classes?
jagged pier
its like what, 3% max on some classes?
3.6 which is boomkin according to sims
on 5 min fight
hardy pawn
And thats including convoke
Idk it feels like Necro is super niche and comp dependant to get good use while phial for Kyrian is just giga broken all the time
solemn magnet
So they need to buff it to 750mastery
modern brook
its like what, 3% max on some classes?
its 3% Single target
deep steppe
Stop relying on me
hardy pawn
Exactly
deep steppe
^Me to my dps this last week
modern brook
Mixed with the fact that the opprotunity cost for Prot warrior is basically "Youre less excited to play fury or arms now"
hardy pawn
You sit back and spam your moonfire I'll do all the heavy lifting as usual pal
modern brook
PLUS it has the F O R B I D D E N S Y N E R G Ywith reprisal
elfin pebble
So yesterday someone posted a chart on who benefited from banner. Does anyone have that chart?
modern brook
PLUS no one else wants to play necrolord
hardy pawn
We can't talk about forbidden synergy otherwise they'll make a wowhead article on it and get it removed
deep steppe
ill find it
deep steppe
its pinned in the rogue discord
y
long coral
LOL
modern brook
Bro idk
@ionic fern is slacking
also cause Fuu over there probably posted it to get people to stop asking about it
deep steppe
Rogues really think they're gonna get checks
elfin pebble
Thanks man
deep steppe
1-2% dam increase from us?
modern brook
1-2% dam increase from us?
i imagine it was more to answer "How much does banner give us :Poggers:????"
long coral
ROGUES DONT EVEN LIKE MASTERY
deep steppe
i imagine it was more to answer "How much does banner give us :Poggers:????"
rogues dont even get into my keys, let alone my banner (if i had one) 
hardy pawn
Rogues thinking they get invited to anything
long coral
oh its the meme sin build lol
hardy pawn
Rogues smell bad
elfin pebble
If you haven't yet you should pin that chart if you can.
long coral
woooow D:
deep steppe
yall are attacking me personally rn
nah nah, when you're here, you're warrior
woven trellis
hi guys, if you have to choose between haste and versatility what do u pick
hardy pawn
Y'all hung out in a sewer while we hung out with literal gods in legion
deep steppe
hi guys, if you have to choose between haste and versatility what do u pick
haste, but ilvl > secondaries
modern brook
nah nah, when you're here, you're warrior
Skyhold Garden
woven trellis
im kinda low haste 16%, and i have my 207 neck low haste big versa, but i have this 210 neck with big haste and small mastery
would u wear the neck with high haste instead?
spiral perch
well yeah, i think like necro war prot is like ... nah, prefer nf
deep steppe
im kinda low haste 16%, and i have my 207 neck low haste big versa, but i have t...
its higher ilvl so yes
woven trellis
cuz losing 130 vers feels big
hardy pawn
Lowkey I think NF is giga slept on
deep steppe
cuz losing 130 vers feels big
what content are you doing? cause you dont need vers unless you're in like 20's
woven trellis
its higher ilvl so yes
ye but its neck, so no str attach and its only 3 ilvl diff, we talking about losing 130 vers here
modern brook
Yeah but like who cares
deep steppe
vers is literally a meme unless you're in the super high key group
modern brook
130 verse is like ~3%?
woven trellis
im undusting my protwar rn, so doing 17/18 this week in planning of trying 20+ nxt week
modern brook
so you're losing 1.5% dr and getting bigger blocks and more haste
If you want
I can just say "use big verse"
and you can use big verse
cause frankly at the gear level you're comparing
its not going to make a difference
woven trellis
ye tbh im just sad i have to choose
modern snow
I'd go haste too.
woven trellis
btw
what are your thought about pika playing Sanguine Vintage 233
and no hakkar trink
modern brook
@patent osprey whats with this 233 sanguine vintage plays
Im guessing its straight ilvl
deep steppe
i mean its a phat absorb
mossy sluice
half the cd as well
woven trellis
ye but i thought hakkar trinket was just
deffo better
i even remember one day coming here asking about this trinket and everyone answered me its complete dog shit
deep steppe
without being able to compare i'd expect it to be a couple things
mossy sluice
press x
deep steppe
- he might not have a 226 scale
woven trellis
100% remember it, the argument was like, <its not enough absorb<
deep steppe
- idk what the absorb diff is between a 226 scale and a 233 vintage is
woven trellis
well a 220 vintage is 17k
and a 207 scale which i have is 22k or 40k on a pack
so its a big difference
deep steppe
- On bosses, I.E. one target, i bet a 233 vintage > a 1 target scale
modern brook
I'm callin it now that its just strength
woven trellis
ye thats my guess as well
woven trellis
yeah thats prolly the best thing about vintage
distant crystal
and you could maybe even game the healing aspect of it
in certain spots
like hitting it right after a big hit to heal you up 6sec later
modern snow
more dam
modern brook
well
mighty egret
so like what if you intervene ur co tank on sludge
modern brook
I think it really dependson what your group looks like
cause if you're the only melee
mighty egret
do u get punched in the teeth
solemn magnet
so like what if you intervene ur co tank on sludge
You tank both hits and die
modern brook
i think u just bite the bullet and lose a revenge proc
cause the 4s of SB is effective rage as well
ionic fern
<@!238357283996696576> is slacking
?
solemn magnet
It'd probably work out better to stagger the CDs. Maybe with DT it's not an issue, but I'd prolly never take DT or SB
modern brook
or repost tham and pin them so someone that isnt me has the post credit
jagged pier
You tank both hits and die
was doing yesterday wasnt killing me 🤷
modern brook
I'll understand 😦
ionic fern
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTjLqrIHHzQdK7fRCLBkY9wG1yhqMnMa...
Don't think anyone cares about post credit
solemn magnet
was doing yesterday wasnt killing me 🤷
Were you taking both hits?
modern brook
I do
sweet summit
who the fuck is bullfango
jagged pier
wasnt really caring cause my DH co tank was spiking like crazy
where i wasnt really at all
mighty egret
SB op
jagged pier
like legit 90/95% blocked hits doesnt really hurt, but i never got to enrage
so if i get to enrage and it hits too hard
ill just swap back
no probs
mighty cairn
speaking of sludge, is there a way to consistently make sure chain slam targets don't accidentally get bopped by giant fists
me and co tank are standing on top of each other but some ranged still occasionally get hit
chilly brook
me and co tank are standing on top of each other but some ranged still occasiona...
Tell them to not be dumb?
Never had that issue
modern brook
Tell them to not be dumb?
this but nicer
That sounds very heavily like a raid leader problem
mighty cairn
is it because they're not moving out right away
modern brook
that or they're moving the wrong way
chilly brook
The only way it happens is if they're moving through you guys
modern brook
you should have a range guy calling movements for things like that
mighty cairn
ah ye that makes sense - ty
chilly brook
Like have tanks on one side of boss
Everyone else on other
Shouldn't have an issue that way
jagged pier
speaking of sludge, is there a way to consistently make sure chain slam targets ...
yer make sure the range dont run through u
chilly brook
Always had a healthy distance between us and the dps
uneven mason
me and co tank are standing on top of each other but some ranged still occasiona...
literally how does this happen?
signal plover
Tbh if the ranged are getting hit by fists when running out after chain slam it IS partially a tank positioning problem. It takes no effort at all for tanks to position so that they're out of the way and the ranged can run straight back
Basically if the ranged get pulled in over your head, it's partially your fault. It's a different story if the ranged are being Mongos and getting knocked into you or running through you despite you being out of the way
grand spruce
with Reprisal what would be the better conduits to use then? im NF
deep steppe
Basically if the ranged get pulled in over your head, it's partially your fault....
"if" dps are always mongos wdym
signal plover
Mongos or not, the mechanic should literally just be a straight line for them in and out
sterile moss
with Reprisal what would be the better conduits to use then? im NF
you running Niya?
modern brook
with Reprisal what would be the better conduits to use then? im NF
reprisal dosnt affect anything
Take the Cov Potency
mighty egret
with Reprisal what would be the better conduits to use then? im NF
i think its the same ones now but i opt into the intervene finesse one now
grand spruce
Understood. Yes im running Niya @sterile moss
modern brook
Understood. Yes im running Niya <@!735323136710410324>
last row you can swap between Unnerving and safegaurd for the haste or for burrs
obviously you can put unnerving on the vertex instead if you prefer it
sterile moss
Always burrs
amber herald
I wouldn't give up burrs it's really good ST dmg which we're kinda lame at
grand spruce
will do. Thanks a bunch
modern brook
Theres a lot to be said for Niya giving even more passive stats on a spec thats a hardcore slut for more
the bigger loss imo is having to pick between unnerving and stalwart
sterile moss
does ip even count as a healing spell?
wooden spruce
hey guys, question, does anyone have a macro to cast intervene on focus?
sterile moss
Oh it procs off indom? That's nice
modern brook
Oh it procs off indom? That's nice
yes but i mean like it also procs off your out of combat HP/5
that shit'll proc on anything
sterile moss
thanks, didn't know that
modern brook
FWIW i would also not give up burrs
But its more that Burrs + Unnerving is better than haste + safeguard, IMO
uneven mason
BUrrs go BRRRRR
amber herald
where on raidbots do you compare soulbinds?
sweet summit
top gear
pearl jetty
Aside from the trinket from DoS, what other trinkets are tanks running for mitigation?
amber herald
ty
fringe marten
In M+ or raids? In raid on prog fights I'm using Sires tank trinket; but for actual 'mitigation' there's ? only the armor kit thing? (oh god no) not sure what else? Everything else is a ward proc (barrier/whatever in wow) Healing procs, or damage.
sterile moss
anima field emitter is great defensively and offensively for haste
fringe marten
So a LOT Of tanks are running the SLG trinket, pure versa, also usually a couple people in group have it.
I like anima field as well, but I always now run my 226 spike, and either SLG, or the bell for M+ (for damage, not for survivability)
The mythic version of the anima spike went from a meh trinket to something really good; as far as a combined value of damage and healing.
sick sentinel
leg (thewall) better on back or shoulder in terms of stats?
silk edge
Shoulder
fringe marten
Which slot has more stats? 🙂
and of course you can always sim trinkets, but that only gives you dps. If you're looking for trinkets that have a combined damage and healing or mitigation utility you'll need to test yourself and weigh them. Be careful though..I don't think SimC/Raidbots is displaying damage values correctly for trinkets flagged as dps trinkets, while we're prot.
uneven mason
leg (thewall) better on back or shoulder in terms of stats?
Back is the worst slot for stat budget
blazing condor
bruh is it just me or does the first plagueroc in PF pull a lot nowdays
didnt have that problem before
uneven mason
bruh is it just me or does the first plagueroc in PF pull a lot nowdays
I always pull it because I've literally never had a run where some flipperhanded monkey didn't manage to get it
blazing condor
i had a lot of it before this patch
obtuse prism
isnt the first plagueroc right next to the entrance?
pearl jetty
Thanks guys. Gonna mess with prot more in keys now. I have a 226 emitter already and working on the DoS trinket. Ready to see what this new leggo is all about
uneven mason
Thanks guys. Gonna mess with prot more in keys now. I have a 226 emitter already...
Its about slapping
fringe marten
First plagueroc? did they put it back? or do you mean the one that flies overhead?
blazing condor
the one that sleeps
obtuse prism
the one that flies overhead
fringe marten
^ that's what I thought. I've never had it pull..yet..
fringe marten
and I mean..it's literally going over my head as we go in...so?
blazing condor
idk
fringe marten
Is it pulling to YOU? or is someone else doing something that's aggroing it?
pearl jetty
Its about slapping
Yea I'm seeing that. free damage and mitigation is how I like playing warrior lol
uneven mason
Who remembers sidewinders in early legion?
pearl jetty
Is there a Vers threshold? I'm sitting 28% right now
uneven mason
Going through a Halls of Valor just fine and the hunter suddenly dies because they pulled all the flying shit in the wolf area
obtuse prism
Is there a Vers threshold? I'm sitting 28% right now
noice - more vers is good verse imo
uneven mason
big fun with that roc
pearl jetty
Perfect
uneven mason
Is there a Vers threshold? I'm sitting 28% right now
No, we don't generally stack a stat at the cost of ilvl tho..but damn boy
fringe marten
LOL I was like "flying shit in halls of atonement..WTF..oh valor..? LEGION? OHHH yeah..."
uneven mason
LOL I was like "flying shit in halls of atonement..WTF..oh valor..? LEGION? OH...
"SIDE" winder, more like "IGNORES Z AXIS WINDER"
obtuse prism
but just a general rule of thumb shadowar - 9.0.x we wont be hitting diminishing returns on any stat
fringe marten
DUDE speaking of legion..I had to bank, and retire my really nice hunger of the pack, with speed tertiary...after 3 expansions.
pearl jetty
I could drop maybe 4% for more ilvl then. Only 225 leggo boots for now
fringe marten
like..WHY the FUCK did that get on their radar all of a sudden?
uneven mason
like..WHY the FUCK did that get on their radar all of a sudden?
they fixed rounding
obtuse prism
primary stat is king which means more ilvl is better
fringe marten
..rounding..?
uneven mason
also, TFW during prepatch the Antorus titan trinkets were BiS
pearl jetty
but just a general rule of thumb shadowar - 9.0.x we wont be hitting diminishing...
That's what I was thinking. I'm sitting at 20% haste with 28% vers and it feels good to some degree. I just need to play around with it more and I'm sure the comfort in damage spikes will feel smoother.
strong forum
..rounding..?
hidden values of how trinkets scale, they rounded alot of trinkets up in their values, trinkets scaling with secondaries got rounded up
fringe marten
Yeah I know I had mine, and the shield proc from the trinket from..? aggramar? was like..still insane after the stat squish.
Yeah but that wasn't the issue with that, it just gave 30% run speed, which means it had permanent value.
uneven mason
yeah
fringe marten
if you want to say "well 30% in SL is..X run speed value.." then sure.
obtuse prism
@pearl jetty here is the dr graph https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/989870.png you can see that at 30% dr hits but its not yet penalizing. at 40% though the penalty gets noticable
fringe marten
But either way; the way 'we' perceived it was...30% is 30% run speed forever...so that trinket was cool for a lot of stuff.
obtuse prism
sry for embed, idk how to hide it
fringe marten
And now what's killin' me is..there's a play style difference in using wall and reprisal...and I'm swapping them in and out now..and it takes me a min to adjust each time LOL
dude I feel awful doing this world quest where you have to kill any of the stewards in bastion..
limpid burrow
i wish they gave Aggramar's Strides back
signal plover
You mean Leaper?
fringe marten
Triple leap shoulders/ Run boots...is still the most fun combo of items warrior has ever had. Regardless of how 'powerful' any other items have been.
fringe marten
Gotta' go fast is warriors SHIT son!
lol..naw; even with the mount..maw is still garbage content. the zone looks AMAZING. seriously the design in there is really cool...but what you 'do' in there is so dogshit.
buoyant dove
aggramar's stride on Corstilax in The Arcway was fucking amazing
pearl jetty
<@!121375273626107904> here is the dr graph https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...
Ah I see thanks for this
modern brook
lol..naw; even with the mount..maw is still garbage content. the zone looks AMA...
its just world content that i cant mount in
I also dont know if they fixed it
but initial sharding in there was actual horse shit
and single handedly makes warmode unplayable this expac
sweet summit
maw with the boys is top tier content
modern brook
maw with the boys is top tier content
more like Nah with the boys
Catch me never in there fam
modern brook
SMH 💪 i dont need a strong mind
fringe marten
It's still really bad, every now and then doing the weeklys I'll try and join a group for the..? Titan core thing...just because solo'ing him is like 5+ minutes long... and EVERY time I try and join people, it's fubared.
compact palm
Twisting is kinda fun with Guilford assuming u are playing a class that is actually fun in torg
Guilford
Nicr
fringe marten
I dunno what guild is doing either; it's gotta' be a strat (focus target) issue. We got 5 gargoyles deep on council last night..and it was a CLEAN fight until then, like..0 deaths...maybe 1 brez early?
How have you guys done it? cleave garg 1, focus until dance on 2...focus boss/kite garg on 3 for kill?
runic crown
Any Necro tanks? How is the exp?
deep steppe
🤫
sterile moss
none of us have any problems with that
fringe marten
It's just a bug; the problem is..I wonder how they're going to fix the bug. The lego gives..as it should; 'shield block' which of course just calls up the spell shield block..dunzo.
If they alter it to 4s, that means it has to be a new spell ID right?
Which means there's a likelyhood they screw up it giving the damage bonus to shield slam, just like last stand did...ALL of BFA.
blazing condor
You dont need to do the shards in any order right in HoA
sterile moss
welcome to the reprisal club!
lime urchin
You dont need to do the shards in any order right in HoA
no
pearl jetty
Reprisal would be better on boots ya? Since you can get 233 from SLG
pearl jetty
233 pants from them
strong forum
cuz its not guaranteed that there will be higher ilvl legs from the last bosses of next tier right
yeah but do you actually kill SLG mythic?
and can get them
pearl jetty
Progging on it now actually lol
strong forum
then its up to you if you wanna commit 5k ash on them for now, and run into the possibility to recraft it in 9.1 for a different slot
pearl jetty
Guess I'm thinking long term
strong forum
i crafted legs
signal plover
Long term legs is the way imo
I'm also suspicious that instead of letting us wear 2 leggos they'll have us add an additional effect to the same piece.
cedar stump
Sanguine Vintage is generally regarded as one of the weakest tank trinkets for other tanks, why do I see a bunch of prot warriors running it?
signal plover
Because it's a pretty good defensive trinket #shrug
eager phoenix
And you can get it at high ilvl 220/233
signal plover
Short CD and it's another tool that helps mitigate predictable spikes (which is basically the name of the game for us)
cedar stump
Is it better than a Blood spattered scale for that though?
signal plover
Not everyone has a high Ilvl scale
uneven mason
Not everyone has a high Ilvl scale
Or any scale
signal plover
Or any scale
uneven mason
😢
RNGesus keeps being like "Yo I heard you praying for that trinket from DOS, HERE YA GO! - IQD 226 #13"
cedar stump
cool, thanks that's what I was mostly trying to figure out, it seems very similar to the scale, but I was wondering if there was a reason to use sanguine vintage over the scale
signal plover
If I had a comparable ilvl scale I wouldn't use sang
uneven mason
TFW you get excited about your parse...until you realize theres literally less than 30 prot warriors in that bracket
signal plover
Just gotta get one to drop so I can lvl it up
I'm praying for a sludge kill tonight so that we can reclear meme next week before the long slog of SLG prog
long coral
you know what I like this class discord better than the rogue one. This one is full of shit posters and rogues are just weebs
uneven mason
really its just one shit poster, but I post a lot
tender carbon
you know what I like this class discord better than the rogue one. This one is f...
Yeah, foreverguy is pretty toxic
long coral
cedar stump
I think this is an awesome discord, I remember at the end of BFA we had a long discussion on how often warriors should take a shower and if you need to clean your armor or not.
compact palm
When u parse a 90 on prot war but u never used rage in sheildblock that is the way
signal plover
sand condor
Mythic sludge is fun
sand condor
I think this is an awesome discord, I remember at the end of BFA we had a long d...
This discord is the best
compact palm
Sludge as paladin is fun
long coral
If you use rage on defensives how do you do dmg?
sand condor
My monk co tank got benched for a prot paladin
uneven mason
When u parse a 90 on prot war but u never used rage in sheildblock that is the w...
SB Is a DPS increase
signal plover
^
compact palm
Reprisal
uneven mason
its stilla DPS increase
amber herald
korayn the stronger choice in m+ with reprisal now?
uneven mason
Ah I get what your saying
compact palm
U saying I coulda parsed 95
amber herald
simming 200+ dps higher for me on add cleave
compact palm
?
open monolith
just a reminder that the warrior discord symbol used to not be shit.
compact palm
What was it before
rancid ember
Hey boys, random question.
The Gargoyles in HoA that can be mind controlled. I know during Raging weeks the damage buff will carry over if you get it to 30% before you mind control it. Can anyone confirm if bolstering works the same way? Now that it has an extra 15 seconds duration it might be worth fitting into the route on a bolstering week.. just thinking
opal cedar
do you guys think they nerfing the reprisal back to 4sec?
uneven mason
Hey boys, random question.
The Gargoyles in HoA that can be mind controlled. I k...
Bolstering drops when you MC it.
rancid ember
Confirmed 100%?
deep steppe
do you guys think they nerfing the reprisal back to 4sec?
regardless of if they do or not, reprisal is the go to for M+
opal cedar
cool, thanks!
opal cedar
korayn the stronger choice in m+ with reprisal now?
also i have the same doubt
uneven mason
do you guys think they nerfing the reprisal back to 4sec?
The nerf will scare many of the FOTM monkies off my parses
opal cedar
korayn now?
uneven mason
doesn't sound right
opal cedar
🤔
uneven mason
burrs goes brrrrrrrrrrrr
opal cedar
cool
uneven mason
but sim it
amber herald
I simmed it in aoe which makes sense I was just wondering if it was a lot stronger now
reprisal, BSC and first strikes has a nice synergy but it's a question of how impactful it is
with a melee in the group it's very easy to get two empowered revenges off in the first strike window
as well as AA
sterile moss
I like korayn for fury
amber herald
yeah it's big dmg for fury which is what got me wondering about it
solemn magnet
Korayn is good for prot, too
amber herald
it's always been good I'm just wondering what the impact of reprisal/BSC has with korayn's first strike is
if any, because niya is also extremely good
uneven mason
I think the issue is that the conduits you have ot take for Korayn endup being rather blech
ocean bloom
For mythic sludge running wall and bolster how should we use avatar and demo shout?
wanton condor
I think the issue is that the conduits you have ot take for Korayn endup being r...
really? Seems like you can take potency + finesse + 2x end
which is basically optimal?
amber herald
it's same conduits as niya if you're going first strikes
uneven mason
nm yeah for some reason I was thinking of the dmg reduction conduits on Kora
olive cosmos
For mythic sludge running wall and bolster how should we use avatar and demo sho...
I found using everything off cooldown and reducing dmg taken/overall out dmg through the entire fight was better than waiting for pillars to use them. If I remember my avatar lined up for the 3rd pillar that way. If you are kyrian and spear off start you also have it forr every pillar
wanton condor
it's what, 60s between charges on mythic or less?
then you can get pull/2/4 or 1/3/wall for avatar
strong forum
every minute
sweet summit
roughly 1 min between ye
wanton condor
we're not up to him on mythic so I wasn't sure
olive cosmos
Basically yeah. Reprisal is really good for that fight if you are a gamer and can charge without killing your co tank
The wall is safer tho, you can fill in your shield block gaps with shield wall and basically have no downtime in mitigation
wanton condor
if you intecept your tank there I would be kind of scared
gentle trellis
any sludgefist reprisal players in here?
uneven mason
IDK, but if you say you can't charge on sludge Erga will call you names
sweet summit
👀
gentle trellis
doin it as we speak
olive cosmos
He doesn't hit terribly hard, you would take 2 good swings but you'll have ignore pain up and it will take pressure off your co-tank
compact palm
Just intervene co tank 
olive cosmos
when we did it i was intervening cotank with shield wall up only
uneven mason
if your cotank cancels intervene before the next swing
gentle trellis
so we charge like madlads
chilly brook
I found using everything off cooldown and reducing dmg taken/overall out dmg thr...
Saving things like ancient Aftershock for pillars definitely makes a difference
wanton condor
if your cotank cancels intervene before the next swing
force them to macro a cancelaura into every button
I accidentally ran seismic instead of reprisal for an hoa and while it got a bit dicey goddamn does that thing pump
vestal moat
Ok fam I just race changed from Vulpera to Highmountain Tauren for prog. My racial reduces damage by...19. Is it just me or does that seem underwhelming.
vestal moat
Nose for Trouble in keys was good.
chilly brook
They're not that impactful, just play what you like
wanton condor
HM honestly has one of the better racials but that's due to utility
along with gobbos
vestal moat
bull rush is super fun
vestal moat
oh good point
wanton condor
vulp's racial is honestly decent when you need to engage a group but don't necessarily have CDs
like a BDK vulp seems like a solid thing
vestal moat
exactly that's why i was using it for keys. but we are on last boss for raid at 4% so trying t oscrape everyting together to min max. prob gonna change right back when it's dead. i miss the bag slots and quick travel.
wanton condor
yeah, that ain't gonna matter for dps through a raid boss
stoic mural
Yo just got bullied by salty guys pretending they know everything in the game, they told me reprisal and AM was completely dumb and enough blabla
wanton condor
but you get to enjoy having awesome antlers
stoic mural
did you meet people like this since update ?
wanton condor
folk meta followers
stoic mural
when i said wasn't kyrian they went crazy too
wanton condor
idk, everyone I've talked to is happy, thinking of trying protwar or otherwise like the buff
stoic mural
i think.. they're stuck in time
chilly brook
Vulpera looks impressive over the course of a key but imho the impact of it is lessened quite a bit for a class like warrior
ripe seal
any sludgefist reprisal players in here?
Yup, just killed It on mythic with Reprisal
chilly brook
A class like DK is the most vulnerable at the start
We're kinda the opposite
Least vulnerable at the start
uneven mason
A class like DK is the most vulnerable at the start
WHy the BDKs are all clapping about CRW
because you can have your 5stacks with avoidance on pull with a short CD
amber herald
Bdks pretty good now right?
uneven mason
all the tanks are doing fine
amber herald
they're still going to get gloablled inside their mitigation with runic power then 
uneven mason
you basicallly have VDH (kite) > Guardian (facetank) > yes
amber herald
shame, I like bdk
uneven mason
they're still going to get gloablled inside their mitigation with runic power th...
Big kiting
But yeah BDK can't mongo pull like warriors
but they don't get instagibbed to the caster pack in DoS
amber herald
kinda lame considering they have the best tools for it
uneven mason
there is a reason why they were nerfed to dirt
because they dominated the MDI for all of legion
then they started doing it again in BFA
chilly brook
Eh
chilly brook
Blood is only fun when it's broken imo
chilly brook
By broken I mean actually self sufficient
uneven mason
but way more entertaining to play the BDK over my Guardian or Paladin atm
tardy osprey
Blood is still a ton of fun, especially if you are running 15s or below
craggy pilot
did anything change in prot trinkets?
uneven mason
Blood is able to complete some mongo keys
craggy pilot
or is Phial + Heart of Alar a good option?
tardy osprey
ya it can, but sub 15, you still feel OP
uneven mason
it'll work
wanton condor
I miss legion BDK
uneven mason
ah yeah Zen, BDK is pretty stonk in low keys, although tyrannical makes my butt pucker cause of the 90 - 10 - 90 playstyle
chilly brook
I miss legion tanks in general except for monk
uneven mason
"I reduce damage to 1% until 1% is enough to 1 shot me"
chilly brook
Current BrM is better than Legion brm
deep steppe
current BrM requires more than 10 braincells
you guys have 10? Cries in 3
vocal cave
with reprisal being the thing, does mastery increase in value?
jagged pier
no
jaunty vector
where do you guys find its best to use items in necrotic wake these days?
for 15s~
ocean anvil
I typically lust + Kyrian bonus boss one. Spear+orb+lust boss 2, spear+orb boss 3, spear+lust boss 4
No particular timings for hammera
sterile moss
on tyrannical, bosses 2 3 & 4 all need to eat a spear at least
brisk ingot
Does the change to banner affect what covenant prot runs?
ocean anvil
I think its in pins, but depends on if you are in coordinated groups or not
brisk ingot
Kind of. I switched from dps to tank so I switched to necro for now
idle swan
My group has a boomy and a fire mage. We stack them together, I intervene to one, banner, charge back in if necessary. Bonus points for using Emeni to give them int on top of that.
My damage is lower than if I was kyrian/NF, but party damage spikes hard
solemn magnet
I know you don't have to stay in range for the banner, but do you have to stay in range for the emeni trait?
strange socket
Can someone tell me how to make a macro to use intervene on my closest ally?
idle swan
Not that I'm aware of.
strange socket
or point me in the right direction
idle swan
I bind charge and intervene to one mouseover macro. Pretty handy
tulip raft
idle swan
I'm at work right at the moment, but if you google charge/intervene macro you'll get some good results
strange socket
ty
limpid dagger
/targetfriendplayer
/cast intervene
/targetlasttarget
limpid tide
I think I already wanna swap to NF from necro lol
strange socket
/targetfriendplayer
/cast intervene
/targetlasttarget
Can I just copy and paste this in my macro board? Ive never made a macro before
idle swan
I'd add
#showtooltip Charge
strange socket
Whoa dude...very handy. Thanks so much
thin ore
I feel with double time I have too much charge and without I have too little -.-
idle swan
Not having stormbolt isn't an option for me
restive wigeon
better too much than too little
idle swan
I needs my stuns
restive wigeon
especially with reprisal
thin ore
is there a world were you run reprisal and not double time?
old monolith
I ran a couple of dungeons and didn't use double time
old monolith
I would charge dump rages then intervene dump rages do some rotation stuff spear and then charge back in
I did bolster haven't tried AM out yet
I felt very sturdy with reprisal so much better then thunderlord. Night and day
old monolith
Thunderlord feels like crap now
deep steppe
is there a world were you run reprisal and not double time?
yes, a lot of people dont use doubletime
thin ore
is Ravager an auto pick? from what I read here it is.
deep steppe
is Ravager an auto pick? from what I read here it is.
also yes
thin ore
man how things have changed. I last played my warrior during mythic jaina progression
deep steppe
UF is worse in terms of both dam (slightly) and rage gen
thin ore
ravager gives a lot of rage
old monolith
Well bfa warrior was a beast.............bastion of might plus vision of perfection. I would top dps chart in a freehold run
deep steppe
Well bfa warrior was a beast.............bastion of might plus vision of perfect...
that build has been gutted, it doesnt really exist anymore
thin ore
somebody got a shout wa which reminds me if one of my party is missing it?
thin ore
I dont even have it keybind :D
earlier somebody mentioned using BSC. is that really a thing?
crimson vortex
earlier somebody mentioned using BSC. is that really a thing?
From what I’ve read, with reprisal yes
deep steppe
if you dont have reprisal you use BV
red tree
Just ova here trying to get some random 190+ gloves to replace my 225 thunderlord for reprisal pants D:
Life is rough
old monolith
If you got anima you can buy the gloves and upgrade to 197 I think
idle swan
Yep, that's the best solution
sick sentinel
what talents are you running with reprisal for low content
idle swan
I'm going 3 3 1 1 2 2 3
idle swan
BSC is super good with reprisal. BV is nice (for obvious reasons) but you get a lot of free revenge procs with reprisal
spiral perch
Is draven a good option for being tank?
spiral perch
Im fury with nadjia
orchid mason
Do yall recommend The Wall for someone newer to Prot? Having to switch to tank for my guild.
sick sentinel
no double time for reprisal?
compact palm
Stunnns
sick sentinel
i guess yeah
idle swan
Double Time is good, but stormbolt is good for my party's playstyle. That row is mostly down to personal preference
amber herald
Do yall recommend The Wall for someone newer to Prot? Having to switch to tank f...
wall is still the raid leggo
stark lion
Anyone have a good weakaura for Fleshcraft + Shield Barrier? I'd love to see absorb stacks for certain fights.
compact palm
Stormbolt in pugs is prob a req
sick sentinel
im gunna try 3 3 1 1 2 3 1 maybe
amber herald
guilds usually make people switch for raid, but if it's m+ then play reprisal
idle swan
If you have a boomie and a healer that isn't a shaman, I find it necessary to use stormbolt just to smooth out interrupts, especially in dungeons like NW
orchid mason
wall is still the raid leggo
Do you always run AM when running The Wall?
compact palm
No
sick sentinel
i got the 3 best rank 4 legendaries, so im okay with that
still slate
hm I struggle between Reprisal and Thunderlord for M+. new to prot
sick sentinel
TL is more defensive
deep steppe
hm I struggle between Reprisal and Thunderlord for M+. new to prot
reprisal
sick sentinel
reprisal is for if you can play loose
deep steppe
What?
no
resprisal gives us big shield block up time
and phat dam
and rage
the other option would be the wall
as shield wall is v-good against magic dam
still slate
thunderlord is good vs physical and magic right?
deep steppe
its ok vs magically but not as good as the wall
and reprisal is /much/ better against physical
as you literally dont take blockable damage while shield block is up
add in the free revenges and the 20 rage
is big
Mwahi wrote it up nicely in the pins
slow spire
Reprisal answers so many issues as Halberad said. SB uptime, upfront dam/threat, rage
still slate
the last 2 talent points, which are the best with Reprisal?
deep steppe
Ravager & AM
slow spire
^^
deep steppe
now dont get me wrong
TL is ok, I got my KSM with it
but its just flat, not as good as reprisal
snow harbor
There's really enough SB uptime to run AM over Bolster? I know it says so in the pins... but man. Id feel lost without bolster on fort weeks
deep steppe
There's really enough SB uptime to run AM over Bolster? I know it says so in the...
people have gotten over 80% uptime
still slate
@deep steppe I mean my target is just +15, I'm not interessted into +18, ... or stuff
snow harbor
Yeah thats pretty nice... sure beats 40-50% lol
deep steppe
<@!286339547334180875> I mean my target is just +15, I'm not interessted into +1...
I mean people like nom did 14's week one with no lego at like 180 ilvl lmao
We can do that content with whatever sort of cov/lego set up you want, but if you're asking "best" its reprisal
still slate
@deep steppe and when u drop "best" and go for "most fun"? Which talents would u take with Thunder?
patent osprey
what if reprisal isn't the play :O
deep steppe
Well you would know @patent osprey lmao
deep steppe
<@!286339547334180875> and when u drop "best" and go for "most fun"? Which talen...
I mean my version of most fun is different than yours prolly, but i like /P U M P I N G/
patent osprey
I'm just gonna push with the maw legendary next week
patent osprey
just gotta spice things up in here
idle swan
Charge into the fight to start, free 6 secs of SB. When it wears off, cast SB to get the charges recharging. Intervene to a nearby friendly (or a backline if you need to kite), more free SB. Cold cast SB when it wears off, you can leap away and charge back in, etc etc. There's lots of free SB from intervene, to say nothing of all the free revenge procs at +50% damage with BSC
slow spire
Signet for those sweet reck procs off avatar
compact palm
Weird flex but ok
crisp dragon
I got a stygia mission this week, will I also get a Soul ash one?
Becasue else I cant get rank 4 next week of reprisal
compact palm
I would legit run signet only if it worked with ravager on prot
hallow field
question about the wowhead guide, why does it suggest darkfrost helm over wrathbark which has more haste? (to preempt, i'll use whichever I get first, I'm just curious as to the reasoning)
snow tusk
guys, im thinking of chaning from necro due to me having a m+ group where i will be playing fury. i thought that kyrian might be the best compromise between raid tanking and m+ fury. Does nightfae hold any good tank values or should i go kyrian?
deep steppe
question about the wowhead guide, why does it suggest darkfrost helm over wrathb...
prolly cause its haste/vers
deep steppe
guys, im thinking of chaning from necro due to me having a m+ group where i will...
NF is big M+ pumper for prot
snow tusk
i am not doing m+ as prot
rough ibex
nightfae > kyrian except u play pvp. Also for Tanking with Reprisal you can use that Blink for a free Charge like the Heroic Leap + Charge Combo
hallow field
so the gap between vers and mastery is bigger than the gap between haste and vers?
deep steppe
i am not doing m+ as prot
for purely raid tanking i'd say prolly Kyrian, cause the phial
stark lion
Kyrian is a pretty good all-arounder, as is Night Fae.
snow tusk
that actually sounds good, the nf blink. what does NF offer otherwise for a raid tank?
rough ibex
i increased dps from 3,5k overall to 4,5k and dmg taken from 4,5k to 3,5k in 18s. also no more kiting needed
deep steppe
so the gap between vers and mastery is bigger than the gap between haste and ver...
I mean our "stat prio" after ilvl is Haste>Vers>=Crit>Mastery
hallow field
right, but it's twice as much haste
chilly brook
for purely raid tanking i'd say prolly Kyrian, cause the phial
I mean NF>Kyrian even in raid
tardy parcel
Any peeps run Reprisal on Denathrius yet? Curious if there's value in using it over Wall... but frankly I'll probably fall back to Wall lol
chilly brook
NF big pumpa
hallow field
72/39 vs 46/65
deep steppe
I mean NF>Kyrian even in raid
dam sure, but utility i feel like is preference base
and i like saying bye bye dots
deep steppe
slow spire
DI dwarf master race
deep steppe
my paladin healer is already all 90's he doesnt need me
stark lion
Phial is good for like, Margore bleed and that's trivial anyways
deep steppe
Phial is good for like, Margore bleed and that's trivial anyways
works on SLG too
crisp dragon
Not on mythic, does it?
signal plover
does not work on M SLG
deep steppe
also Carnage on Sire also i think?
deep steppe
does not work on M SLG
RIP
sand condor
does not work on M SLG
Does dwarf racial work
signal plover
don't believe so
sudden crescent
@patent osprey hi dad
signal plover
only the crystalize cast removes bleeds on M afaik
hallow field
has blighted margrave over twisted loyalties too 😦
so is it safe to say instead haste > vers >>> crit > mastery?
patent osprey
Hi @sudden crescent
sudden crescent
😄
@patent osprey fyi, you made nat cry when u hosted us ❤️
was you, hype, and naufer all within like a hour
astral crystal
phial doesn't work on SLG fyi
that was one of the changes they made early in the tier
crisp dragon
Now Im actually considering changing to NF, I knew it didnt work, but now im sitting here wondering why Im still Kyrian
but its still kyrian that logs highest
blazing condor
it feels weird to lust on 2nd boss in HoA cus its not back up for last boss
but at the same time 2nd boss is such a must-kill
so it feels like youre inting if you dont lust it
compact palm
Last boss doesn't do anything scary anyway
chilly brook
@patent osprey you still a tree boi?
hallow field
and the phases on it are pre-scripted %
deep steppe
<@133743762999476224> you still a tree boi?
hes a necro-boi now
chilly brook
Gross
hallow field
this is a better example, if haste > vers >= crit > mastery, shouldn't the distorted be a slam dunk choice?
unique shale
how should i deal with [Overhead Slash] ?
patent osprey
❤️ @sudden crescent <3<3<3
patent osprey
<@133743762999476224> you still a tree boi?
Banner boi atm
patent osprey
true
on a high key we lust first pull, 3rd shard, 3rd boss and the very last 40 seconds of the last boss
We pride shards 1, 2, 3 + 2nd boss
unique shale
how should i deal with [Overhead Slash] ?
patent osprey
how should i deal with [Overhead Slash] ?
Make sure u always have block up when it happens and pair with demo shout if you have it
gentle notch
Been watching your stream vods @patent osprey as a filthy EU pleb while gearing up my 205 newly dinger warrior. Thanks for the content!
patent osprey
its ok to have no SB up when hes auto attacking u, but u insta die if u dont have SB
if you have nothing use Shield wall
unique shale
Make sure u always have block up when it happens and pair with demo shout if you...
thx
timid zealot
cycle through demo shout/ignore pain, then shieldwall, then last stand
patent osprey
after he casts the 2nd Slash
timid zealot
bank a full bar of rage during bird only phase
patent osprey
right before hes gonna cast the 3rd, just start kiting him and he wont use the 3rd
^ this is super key
timid zealot
hakar trinket can eat one too
blazing condor
on a high key we lust first pull, 3rd shard, 3rd boss and the very last 40 secon...
assuming youre doing this on tyrannical yeah? otherwise 10 min between 3rd and last seems like a long time
patent osprey
assuming youre doing this on tyrannical yeah? otherwise 10 min between 3rd and l...
no assuming its fort
blazing condor
🤔
finite onyx
hey guys, new to game and want to play tank. like the fantasy of warriro but do you think its a good class to start with when tanking is new to me? xd
patent osprey
so means ur doing that 3rd boss at around 11 minutes left in the key
on lower keys
u probably want ot lust 2nd boss and last boss
wanton harness
Im a supernoob at prot but i just got reprisal tonight and holy fuck combined with double time im never worried im gonna get smashed or not hold initial aggro anymore
round silo
im debating the wall or repraisal.. i have 5,150 soul ash and was thinking
strong forum
I'm gonna play reprisal on every boss besides maybe sludge now
stray gazelle
Damn they reverted the nerf to reprisal to 6 secs instead of 4
round silo
i do mythics but still wana do raid 😦
strong forum
So good
stray gazelle
I’m gonna only use this lego
strong forum
Damn they reverted the nerf to reprisal to 6 secs instead of 4
"reverted"
Or just forgot to nerf it
Who knows
Nothing official yet
rich marten
So for the necrolord banner in a raid setting can only people in your group get the buff or can anyone get it
cerulean tree
So for the necrolord banner in a raid setting can only people in your group get ...
2 closest ppl to you when u cast it
rich marten
damn so theres no fixing the groups to ensure my co-tank isnt the one who gets it?
patent osprey
intervene who u want to have it
rich marten
wait a second
all i have to do is casually kill someone on sludgefist for that extra damage on convoke
i see this as an absolute win
wide charm
Hey i just tried prot war for the first time, how do you kite adds such as the bears in HoA ?
And how do you mitigate the bleed ?
chilly brook
Hey i just tried prot war for the first time, how do you kite adds such as the b...
You get out of melee range?
wide charm
lol
chilly brook
Leap? Intervene? Thunderclap and run out?
wide charm
yeah not dumb
chilly brook
Plenty of options
rotund terrace
necrolord tank is for buffing melee, dont want to waste banner on casters
chilly brook
It's more simple than you think
modern snow
Since haste-vers is good, would that make conquest gear incredible for prot?
wide charm
and how often do we use ignore pain ?
chilly brook
Since haste-vers is good, would that make conquest gear incredible for prot?
P good yea
modern snow
Trying to streamline my gearing on my new alt as cleanly as possible.
chilly brook
Ignore pain is very simple
modern snow
Ok neat, thanks Matt.
floral pewter
Hey i just tried prot war for the first time, how do you kite adds such as the b...
thunderclap to snare, then leap or intervene away if available, then use the w key
chilly brook
Does this hurt like a bitch? Use it, if not more revenge
floral pewter
And how do you mitigate the bleed ?
spam Ignore Pain if necessary
wide charm
Ahaha ok
quick pecan
I'm still struggling with AoE aggro on pulls
amber herald
shield slam still hit harder in ST than an empowered revenge with BSC?
quick pecan
Charge -> Revenge -> Thunderclap just isn't enough sometimes
Yes I have the conduit as well, pluss Best Served Cold
grand drum
ravager should be up for each pull almost
merry ocean
Ravager -> Charge
barren socket
do I get double fisted if I intervene my co-tank on sludgefist? 🤔
quick pecan
I definitely know thats a huge problem that I don't use ravager enough.. Is that gonna fix a 15k+ burst from DPS?
merry ocean
On AOE opener I usually do 15k DPS with all CDs and ancient aftershock
quick pecan
im necro beta cucklord though. dropped Kyrian just to try it out, could def switch back.
mild ruin
send halp, ive dinged 60 today on warrior, currently tanking most things but occasionally getting pulled through some stuff as fury, reprisal offers fury nothing, how much does signet offer prot? (is it worth crafting signet as a multiuse leggo before reprisal if i may have to fury as much as prot till geared)
wide charm
Signet will give you more damage on prot but won't help you tank
amber siren
signet will 50/50 cast BS which can be a problem
wide charm
not if you have ravager
amber siren
Oh right, true
wide charm
or is it different than arms ?
mild ruin
ive wondered how it would work with ravager
wide charm
I might be wrong about prot but in Arms if you have ravager it will proc it instead of BS
amber siren
Yeah for arms it will replace BS with ravager but I don't think it does the same for prot
tender phoenix
any banner bois tried to pug is it worth or just better to stick to kyrian for them pugging times?
static vortex
Anyone have a doc detailing all the blockable/relfectable sources of dmg in shadowlands?
tender phoenix
Anyone have a doc detailing all the blockable/relfectable sources of dmg in shad...
check the pins
amber siren
prot cucked from signet memes
static vortex
check the pins
O tht pin is tiny i missed it the first time thanks so much
tender phoenix
O tht pin is tiny i missed it the first time thanks so much
understandable 🙂
unkempt fox
let's goooo boys
limpid anchor
Pretty sure you can block during BS anyway. So it’s not that bad
compact palm
U can IP and wall too and any shout