protection

[iron arrow]

doesnt it share the exact same CD timer as well?

[uneven mason]

yeah

[iron arrow]

fuck me i might switch my bear lol

[uneven mason]

I was like "Why you Venthyr bro" and he was like...just wait for it

and shit exploded

and kept exploding because you have to maintain combat

[brittle owl]

[iron arrow]

I no longer get full moons and im really going to miss that animation so i might as well switch

[brittle owl]

venthyr has some of the best feeling cov abilities

straight up

[uneven mason]

It takes some getting used to a frenzy bear

[brittle owl]

simple, direct, effective

[iron arrow]

DK venth with frost 1min CDs is awesome as well

[brittle owl]

ashen hollow, cocaine bear, mindgames

swarming mist

just straight up gucci shit

[plush tendon]

I tried really hard to like Ashen Hollow.... couldnt do it

[chilly brook]

Condemn

[brittle owl]

condemn ye

[edgy venture]

so is it still Kyrian > Night Fae > rest?

[brittle owl]

bro

[uneven mason]

BDK venthyr feels "right"

[edgy venture]

for prot war

[brittle owl]

ashen hollow

pipes

[chilly brook]

I mean like tbh

Imho

[plush tendon]

Yea, but divine toll is super simple and effective

[chilly brook]

Night Fae>all for prot

[uneven mason]

that chain interrupt

can't replace

saves me so many times

[brittle owl]

divine toll is pea brain utility simp logic

ashen hollow is giga chad pumper brain

[plush tendon]

You arent wrong

but im a simp small brain

[brittle owl]

the best utility

[amber herald]

you still get them in pve just fyi

[brittle owl]

is what makes things die faster

[prime nymph]

does anyone know the actual valor points value you earn from m+_

[iron arrow]

@amber herald as gaurdian?!

[plush tendon]

Ill let you know in 3 hours

[chilly brook]

Some of these dudes is trippin

[uneven mason]

just make sure you use Ursoc's fury lego with Venthyr, its kinda required for gigapulls

[sterile moss]

probably a pathetically low amount

[chilly brook]

Looking at used ps4s this man is asking $400

[amber herald]

yeah as guardian, blizzard sperged out when writing the patch notes for some reason

that change is pvp only

[iron arrow]

@uneven mason got it 😛

holy fuck

awesome

[amber herald]

but venthyr is legit anyway

[iron arrow]

tru

[uneven mason]

75% of dmg you deal with thrash is absorbshield when you're crackbear incarnation

rolling ball of death

[prime nymph]

the only thing ive found

was a chinese interview

[uneven mason]

like that scene from Critters

[prime nymph]

where they said 605 for a +6

[uneven mason]

where they eat Easterbunny

[prime nymph]

but seems whack

[sterile moss]

seems way too high. Blizz isn't that generous

[prime nymph]

lets just hope i dont need to do more than 10

:p

[sterile moss]

especially this coming week...

tyr, bolstering

[plush tendon]

This looks like a 4 key week

[cinder nova]

Tyrannical Bolster?

What else? Necro? Fuck.

[plush tendon]

Id rather deal with necrotic

[cinder nova]

Yeah, but throw Necro on the back of it

Then you got a bullshit recipe

[subtle island]

Which classes will benefit from banner most?

[chilly brook]

Tbh I've been enjoying m+ a lot more since I swapped to DPS

[river spade]

Unh dk and fire i guess

[chilly brook]

[plush tendon]

Class doesnt matter, only give it to your friends

[river spade]

^

[plush tendon]

Its your bargaining tool

[subtle island]

Lol

[oak tree]

For M+ content, would I rather run Korayn for defensiveness or Niya for some extra offense? Nothing too crazy for keys, probably in the 10-14 range

[sterile moss]

Niya

[plush tendon]

I thought Korayn was great for damage to

honestly, those Night Fae soulbinds are all fire

[sterile moss]

Picking Niya also allows you to os fury with korayn

[chilly brook]

If you run Korayn you do it for dam

Tbh

Wild hunt tactics and first strikes memes

[amber herald]

niya because she's the hottest

[plush tendon]

You say memes, others call that gains

[outer solstice]

as well as PvP with pod-cancer

[chilly brook]

Niya is best default pick

[oak tree]

I probably won’t os, this is an alt so I’m not going to crazy with it, but thanks! I’ll prob go Niya

[plush tendon]

Niya does have burs...

[chilly brook]

Well running korayn as a tank kinda is a meme imo

[outer solstice]

I do Prot in raid with Niya, Fury in M+ with Korayn and Arms in PvP with dreamweaver

[plush tendon]

I wouldnt know, Im not a night fae 😦

[outer solstice]

it works out near perfectly

[chilly brook]

Gotta do some fucky stuff to get advantage of first strikes

[outer solstice]

CC a mob and pull it in a few seconds laterz

to extend it 😛

[chilly brook]

[wet compass]

huh blizz killed the exploiter pvp venth playstyle before we even got to abuse it

[chilly brook]

Killed it yesterday yea

[wet compass]

might just be all roads lead to night fae

[chilly brook]

They basically just reverted the exploiter change

[wet compass]

yup glad I didn't craft it

[chilly brook]

I did cuz I'm already Venthyr and was pvping with it anyways

[wet compass]

unhinged though

[cinder nova]

Unless UDK got a buff Boomkin/Fire are best.

[oak tree]

Actually I’m not done with my thoughts lol, I’m switching to NF from Kyrian so I haven’t had much testing, but wouldn’t the NF ability have some decent synergy with that hold the line thing? I gotta stand still to keep them in my lines anyway, so would the extra reduced damage help? Or is that more a sounds good in my head but doesn’t play out as well in practice

[chilly brook]

Your problem isn't survival mostly

Tank soulbinds are kinda memes

It's like running a stam flask

[cinder nova]

Tank soulbinds are a meme

[chilly brook]

Just buff damage

[oak tree]

Word

[ripe mirage]

Reworked Reprisal will be the best prot legendary?

[amber herald]

m+ yes

[ripe mirage]

and the wall for raiding?

[lone hearth]

is there a way to make a macro that, only charges on target, and intervane on mouse over? i already have a charge harm , help intervane

all in one button that is

[floral pewter]

/cast [@mouseover,help,exists]Intervene; Charge

I think that should work

[lone hearth]

make sence

ima try when servers are bac

thanks

[late wasp]

Be careful about how that works, you might intend to charge a mob but since your mouse is hovering over someone you accidentally intervene to them instead

Your intervene should have some kind of intentional modifier instead of just incidental mouseover

[outer solstice]

over someone or over someone's bar

I just do it by target, too dangerous to do it otherwise for me

[late wasp]

Yeah, the macro you asked for works with what Moon is saying, but in practice, I just see that creating some confusion and frustrating interactions

[outer solstice]

also if you add #showtooltip the icon will change all the time

so make sure to use #showtooltip Charge

[subtle island]

Has anyone run the numbers properly on how much of an absord condemn is actually giving in raids?

[outer solstice]

a tad below IP i think

[sick sentinel]

don't venthyr as prot

[outer solstice]

ventyr is fine as prot

[sick sentinel]

not really

[outer solstice]

lol

[sweet summit]

yes really

not ideal, for sure

but youll do fine

[outer solstice]

yeah only weirdos like Erga play ventyr as prot shrug

[sweet summit]

[outer solstice]

ppl called me weirdo for playing NF fury and NF prot and NF PvP xD

[sick sentinel]

kyrian is the go as prot

[sweet summit]

all 4 are good

[outer solstice]

NF is nearly as good

[sick sentinel]

condemn doesn't change that much on the damage you take tbh

[sweet summit]

but yes, kyrian is the one we generally recommend

[outer solstice]

and as soon as the servers are back up all 4 are fine

[sick sentinel]

helps a bit, but not life changer

[subtle island]

It gets compared to IP but condemn refreshes shield slam sometimes doesn’t it?

[sweet summit]

[outer solstice]

but srsly,... @sick sentinel we discussed this to exhaustion and all 3 are fine and after reset all 4 are fine

[wet compass]

do we have sims for venth that are working yet?

[outer solstice]

what fight @sweet summit ?

let me put a direct comparison

[sweet summit]

weekly no leaver NW 14 with rat alts

[subtle island]

And you can then pump another straight after whereas with IP there’s no chance of a reset

[lunar jackal]

Can't wait to try prot this week

[sweet summit]

@wet compass as soon as the NA servers are live, the APL change is live on raidbots

[outer solstice]

twas a 15 mists

you can see it's nearly the same, but you can add IP on top of condemn absorb

[sturdy sable]

Also venth soulbinds are solid

[sweet summit]

theyre alright

[outer solstice]

NF soulbinds are broken

^^

[timber lagoon]

[sturdy sable]

^

[lunar jackal]

^

[subtle island]

There’s a 200k difference between IP and IP+condemn there though

[outer solstice]

I'm still discussing with myself if I will go necro .... it's such a hard choice thoo

@subtle island yeah but also playstyle a lot

[sweet summit]

im going after prog

[sturdy sable]

I was venthyr till last week and all I'm either going back or going nightfae after prog

[outer solstice]

well we're hardstuck on inverva

and could really use the dmg for the raid...

we probably won't finish progression anyway

[subtle island]

Only a 40k difference between indoms though

[elfin nova]

Necrolord banner is not the answer if you are stuck on inerva

No flame

[spiral perch]

Venth prot using draven?

[outer solstice]

yeah I know, but every little bit of DPS helps

[sweet summit]

@wet compass https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/shadowlands/profiles/Tier26/T26_Warrior_Protection.simc u can yoink the apl from here and sim

ideally you run nadjia as venthyr imo

[sturdy sable]

I run nadjia

[sweet summit]

but im using it for fury, so theotar is my man

[spiral perch]

Nadjia is the first right?

[subtle island]

I use draven

[sweet summit]

ya

[sturdy sable]

Yeah haste girl

[spiral perch]

Mmmm interestinh

I always though draven would be more for prot

But mmmm

[outer solstice]

yeah because I used like 4 times more revenge then IP and erga can use condemn on single target for big parts of the fights where IP is not needed

[spiral perch]

Interesting

[sweet summit]

draven is more of a pvp guy

[spiral perch]

No shit really?

Oh man

Haha

Prot pvp?

Or arm pvp?

[sweet summit]

lmao no

arms

[minor pelican]

How's the Reprisal working out?

[spiral perch]

Wtf I want to try itttt

[sweet summit]

dunno its not live yet

[spiral perch]

Ah Men yes

Youre right

[minor pelican]

Love today isn't it

Live...

[sweet summit]

as soon as servers go up yeah

[elfin nova]

On NA yes

[minor pelican]

I'm at work figured it was up already

[dusty gate]

4PM EST

[minor pelican]

Man, so late

Glad I wasn't off today then

[spiral perch]

Well, I really want to try war prot on necro

[minor pelican]

Be nice to just charge in and hire demo though

Hit...demo

[spiral perch]

Will be like screaming Aaaa alll the time

[minor pelican]

Big aggro helper to boot with revenge. I'm pretty sure kyrian still outperform necro

[sweet summit]

under the right conditions, no

[minor pelican]

But I'd like to have the necro stuff it looks cool.

[spiral perch]

I was taking with dk blood 2 days ago in random dungeons

And wow

PARKOUR all the time

[spiral perch]

Tanking* mistake

[fringe marten]

Anyone know, off hand..the amount of soul ash to make a rank 1 legendary?

[lunar jackal]

1250

[minor pelican]

Q250

[spiral perch]

1250

[fringe marten]

that's right..I remember that being the magic number we were trying to get week 1.

[lunar jackal]

now that we most likely going AM unnerving focus loses value right?

[minor pelican]

Whats today's torghasts

[fringe marten]

ok; so I'll have to friggin' do torghast so I can quick-slap a cheapie reverberating on for funsies.

I was trying to read all the torghast changes but it looks like basically the prot ones got..? better..basically easier to 'max' with 1 power, instead of 3 or 5

And that new blackout thing...can you toggle that on/off? like..jump in a pack..turn it on..blow it up, turn it off? or is it for the whole floor/run ?

and how long until someone makes a weak aura that has some ability to guide you LOL... I guess you can use that 'edgelurker' buff if you get it, but it still sucks.

[severe oak]

hey guys i'm new here what do you think about thunderlord for dungeons ?

[astral crystal]

if anything it'd be the opposite

[sweet summit]

worse than new reprisal

[astral crystal]

more rage during LS = more rage to dump for AM

[limpid pawn]

so today we find out if warriors are now the bis tank?

[fringe marten]

Yung, today's patch saw a retuned legendary that will be our preferred legendary for use in dungeon scenarios.

[crimson furnace]

any idea if we get the right wing this week in thorgast?? new prot player here without reprisal 😦

[fringe marten]

Star; why would it matter which side of torghast?

[astral crystal]

do you have any twisting corridors unlocked?

[crimson furnace]

yhea

my main is 9/10M

[astral crystal]

if you have up to TC3, you can go into that layer and just reset until you get the wing you want

[lone hearth]

u can unlock leggo in tc3

[fringe marten]

OH ..the...was reprisal one of the memories in one of the torghast wings?

[uneven mason]

I think now that reprisal is live, TL is pretty much dead.

[astral crystal]

complete 6 floors (up to boss) and you will get it

[crimson furnace]

OMGOMG

i didnt not know that

jesus!!

[lone hearth]

yeah its a game changing thing i discorverd recently

[fringe marten]

Oh good, glad you'll be able to get it with some relative ease. Yeah since I mained prot since start I forgot what it would be like to 'go after' a legendary memory if it was from like a world boss, or torghast wing...completely forgot about that.

[severe oak]

okay thanks guys for help

[chilly brook]

So many fotm bois showing up

[crimson furnace]

what piece should i craft it on?

[rugged finch]

What Covenant you going to play friends?!

[astral crystal]

legs has highest raw stats

[fringe marten]

Leggings; as a tank you want to go for the highest stat budget/armor item you can with legendary equipment.

[astral crystal]

but if you have lower ilvl boots just put it there

[crimson furnace]

leggs it is

guys

im so happy

[astral crystal]

lower than 226* that is

[crimson furnace]

ty!

[thorn gust]

I’m missing a necrolord tank so that’s why I’m going it plus my regular group doesn’t have a necrolord

[fringe marten]

I wish I could...try necrolord, at least with max renown, for like a day. Without committing to it.

[rugged finch]

I don't want to leave the Kyrians

[chilly brook]

NF is the play

[fringe marten]

I don't want to 'leave' anything I've invested this much time in.

[chilly brook]

Always has been

[brazen goblet]

Will it be better to play double time with reprisal ?

[chilly brook]

[chilly brook]

Not needed

Storm bolt super gud

[thorn gust]

From what I read on WoWhead you can dodge, parry etc while casting fleshcraft shield so it’s sort of like fel dev for dh now

[solemn magnet]

Anyone know if you're halfway through switching covenants if you can then switch to a 3rd? Im NF, did the 1st fill the bar to go back to kyrian, but now kinda wanna mess with necrolords. Do I need to finish the 2nd fill the bar quest to go kyrian before then switching to necrolords?

[chilly brook]

I mean fel Dev is good because it gives meta

[fringe marten]

I swapped to double time last night and ran a few keys with it; and made my weak auras for tracking charge/intervene... I wish I could have gotten away with swapping 'off' bolster..but without reprisal that's not even an option. Not sure if it's even a great idea even with it.

[thorn gust]

And the shield will be 40% hp

[fringe marten]

What is meta?

[thorn gust]

Or 30 now I think

[uneven mason]

Its no where close to Fel Devastation

[plush tendon]

DR is 20, shield is 40

[chilly brook]

Metamorphosis? The thing DH has

[fringe marten]

...I don't..? "Meta..MorPHOsis" ? I looked in my 'knowledge' book, but that ability isn't there.

[thorn gust]

Knowledge book lmao

[chilly brook]

The thing that makes DH big demon

👀

[thorn gust]

👹

[fringe marten]

? I don't..know what that means either ..never seen 'DH' used as an acronym for anything we do?

so..we can "metamorphosis a DH" ?

is that with the new legendary?

[chilly brook]

Smh

[sick sentinel]

No, Google a bit ;)

[chilly brook]

You dont read

My meta comment was in regards to someone who actually used the comparison of fel dev to fleshcraft

[fringe marten]

ACTUALLY I do...in fact it says "Skyhold" #protection thus insinuating that we will be among men here, not flavor of the spineless tanks who run.

[chilly brook]

No you don't lmao

[signal plover]

Yeah we discuss guardian druid here you fuckin slugs

[dense flame]

🤔

[uneven mason]

And what Transmog is best on guardian

[signal plover]

Bearrrrr meeeeemememeemss

[fringe marten]

(..sigh..I know; this hasn't been 'just' protection warriors and prot discussion for a VERY long time.. it was obvious trolling/joking)

[sick sentinel]

As learned men we also talk about the other classes, despite being unworthy... ;)

[uneven mason]

BRB Going to grab my bear soulshape and glitch it again so my shield is in my teeth.

[dense flame]

Well, I’m just hoping I get a phial out of box so I don’t have to farm PF

😂

[edgy venture]

I just realised changing covenant doesn't bring the sanctum upgrades with you

[fringe marten]

^

[uneven mason]

That's going to sting

[dense flame]

It’s so stupid you can’t upgrade prior items

[edgy venture]

Muh oribos portal

[uneven mason]

eh

[dense flame]

Like really stupid

[uneven badger]

hey people, new here. so everyones swapping necro eh? lol

[uneven mason]

No

[fringe marten]

One of the many reasons I'd like to really be able to 'play' necrolord at full potency without having to commit to an empty covenant/doing campaign/etc.

[sick sentinel]

No

[uneven mason]

Some are going necro

but welcome to the world of choices

[fringe marten]

You do 'retain' everything you had right? If you go back?

[uneven mason]

prot can do just fine with any of them

[fringe marten]

Or do you perma lose upgrades/mission table followers..etc?

[uneven mason]

Pointless sidecontent is pointless

[uneven badger]

i like they they are trying to at least make multiple viable

[cunning parcel]

If your going back you return to where you left

[fringe marten]

EH...I can't say you're wrong. The mission table has become less and less important every xpac. I keep treating it like it's something important..but yeah it's not in SL at all.

[uneven badger]

kinda sucks being pigeon holed into choosing one covenant

[fringe marten]

(yet)

[uneven mason]

WoD Mission table best mission table

[edgy venture]

All the stuff you've unlocked on lets say Kyrian, will be there if you decide to go back to it after switching to another covenant.

[fringe marten]

That is truth.

[barren socket]

do I lose all my anima investments? like the portal to oribos etc...?

[edgy venture]

JooJ yes.

[uneven mason]

literally leveled up 12 charactersj ust so I could get Blingtron's vault

[barren socket]

oof

[uneven mason]

so much gold.

paid for like 2 years of wow with WoD mission table

[barren socket]

that sucks

[wet compass]

So I think the next thing we should start doing is campaigning for blizzard to add angry shout aka bloodlust for warriors

[fringe marten]

Well?? ehh...? WoD mission table was most profitable..but the most important one was Legion. (I guess I'm thinking of the 'research' tech tree..to unlock 2nd legendary. I guess that would equate to the...? Soul Bind tree?? or the Covenant 'base' unlocks? those are useless though)

[uneven mason]

I'd rather have a CD that stacks with Bloodlust

[uneven badger]

bloodlust for warriors sorta makes sense

[floral pewter]

mage tower bear form

[edgy venture]

nah we got bloodthirst.

[chilly brook]

Bloodlust is boring

Tbh

I'd rather a new buff

[edgy venture]

lust = thirst, kind of.

[uneven mason]

TBH the mage tower bear ape looks like ass

[edgy venture]

I think the rock bear is the best look.

[lavish oracle]

Why would we even need bloodlust?

[chilly brook]

Not bloodlust version 3

[uneven mason]

Skull Banner when

[fringe marten]

My cotank in guild is a bear...he always jealous of the mogs we get...because, he's ..always gorilla bear, or mountain dew bear...and that's AS GOOD as it gets. =\

[lavish oracle]

We already have really good raid utility and it's not like there's a lack of bloodlust classes

[uneven mason]

the red accented rock bear

best bear

[floral pewter]

idk, I kind of dig the Crinos aesthetic

[fringe marten]

Like..dude...prot warrior is 86% transmog. the other 14% is playskill ...I don't care what ilevel you got, or how you play..if you look like a busted scrub, or using some hobo pvp mog...you're a busted scrub.

[sick sentinel]

Increase damage on target buff

[uneven mason]

werewolves

🤮

[clever bronze]

You mean like Sunder Armor :kappa:

[edgy venture]

I wear a diving helmet. I am literally the top dog of transmog.

[fringe marten]

Diving helmet flies DANGEROUSLY CLOSE to pvp hobo mog.

[uneven mason]

I'm shirtless guy at the beach with a car door

[sick sentinel]

Y, but timed

[chilly brook]

You might not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

[edgy venture]

check my mog in the #transmog

[fringe marten]

That is mememog...but at LEAST it's mog for memes.

Basically you run that in the hopes you get into an asmongold xmog comp so you can irritate him I'm guessing?

[edgy venture]

asmonwho

[fringe marten]

Don't even try...

[uneven mason]

The dude that won the longest mount off of all time was in my guild on Turalyon

Asmongold was starting to get pissed around 120mounts

[fringe marten]

LEL..wasn't that uhh..? He's a taiwanese player right?

[uneven mason]

nah, the person they were up against mighta been

had all the PVE mounts

[fringe marten]

Asian/Oceanic I thought? was a very long standing player..with basically every glad mount since...the start of the game.

[uneven mason]

other dude was nothing but PVP mounts

[fringe marten]

^^ yup

ok so it was the 'other' player. ok.

[uneven mason]

big B crushed him

he actually HAD most of the PVP mounts

but was screwing with hte guy with all the rare PVE mounts

because they never farmed em

[fringe marten]

I'm guessing there's no one in game that has every mount ever? (minus the 1 that a gm gave away that was never meant to be in game)

[uneven mason]

IDK

[fringe marten]

Because it would require that you have all the 'old' epic mounts before they spiced them up, etc. So I'd have to assume no one has all of those.

[uneven mason]

I'm sure someone does

[astral crystal]

this tbh

[uneven mason]

I had a crazy dude back who spent a few grand on gold to buy mounts really early on

[fringe marten]

Which one is rock bear?

[uneven mason]

IDK what happened to him though, I didn't stay with Silvan Rangers long

[astral crystal]

damn you know what i just realized

blizz didn't even do archaeology for shadowlands

[fringe marten]

nope

I'm glad, because I never do anyway.

FK archeology

[astral crystal]

i sometimes dabble in it but you'd think for lore reasons that'd be pretty good to add in

[fringe marten]

actually other way around

for lore reasons is why it wouldn't exist in SL

[uneven mason]

didn't make sense

[fringe marten]

BUT...

[astral crystal]

i dont know man

they have ancient civilizations older than the dominant ones in the shadowlands

as evidenced by 9.1

[fringe marten]

If the maw is actual physical ? ground/space..(where the other planes we go to in SL are like..? crafted areas from..anima? I dunno) But if the maw is an ancient old physical place..it SHOULD have buried stuff.

[astral crystal]

well we often find objects there

[fringe marten]

Yeah..20 souls every week is what I find.

[astral crystal]

and the traders have tried to go in there to get shit out

so it's presumably material objects

[uneven mason]

there is a lot of "unknown" space "below" the maw

[fringe marten]

I'm way capped on souls; hence why they're adding that anima boost (a bunch of people likely are) but I'm guessing everyone in the same boat unless you MAD grind dailies...you can't get enough anima to upgrade your base, but have capped souls for a couple weeks.

[uneven mason]

Think about it, physical reality probably flows into the shadowlands, just like crap ends up in the twisting nether

[amber herald]

nah isn't the current plot that the jailer wants a physical world for his shenanigans

and he's actually chained one into the maw or someshit?

[uneven mason]

Oribos acts like a physical "anchor" that stabilizes that area in the shadowlands, allowing for the other branches to somewhat chain off of it, like the Pattern in amber

[fringe marten]

Uh..I dunno..? He's stealing the anima..is that what for?

[amber herald]

I remember there was a cutscene

and he's got a big thing chained up

[uneven mason]

He grabs one out of the "in between"

yeah a floating chunk of somehwere else

[fringe marten]

But is that the play? He is making a..place?

with anima?

[uneven mason]

No he's looking for something

from the first ones

the maw is probably a universal garbage disposal

or a landfill

[astral crystal]

so there are physical, material objects

[uneven mason]

yeah

chances are the shadowlands was a single place prior to being divided and ordered

[fringe marten]

And they're obviously trying to assault..something? hence making the 'weapon' which is..they hope anduin. and using EdgeMourneEmo to corrupt him...but ? they trying to assault oribos? or the other place?

[lusty marsh]

Did anyone get to test the legendary change?

[fringe marten]

servers aren't up.

[lusty marsh]

On ptr

[fringe marten]

any 'big' patch day servers take like 4 extra hours to come up

[uneven mason]

Mwahi did many tests

[twilit jay]

I am really considering the jump over to necro land

[uneven mason]

Its gud

[lusty marsh]

Nice, did he post a verdict. Is it in the pins

[uneven mason]

I D K did you

[fringe marten]

What would be the ? M+ dps'y soul bind tree you'd use for necrolord? I'd like to see how that looks...could influence my choice.

[lusty marsh]

No :(

[uneven mason]

Maybe you should

[dapper swift]

mastery just sounds meh but im sure ppl will be doing psychotic stuff with that in high keys soon

[fringe marten]

mastery is very powerful for a lot of classes; us included. It doesn't follow the same diminishing returns scale as every other secondary in SL, but it scales differently for each class. But for 'most' it's a powerful damage increase..but not all.

[uneven mason]

Bonesmith

[uneven mason]

its pretty meh for DPS for us (original sims had arms DW mastery in place IDK)

but its not horrible

[fringe marten]

Ikari; yeah But i'd like to see the actual tree fleshed out..how you'd spec it; and I'm not sure where that would be located.

[floral pewter]

wait, really? is it for the thorns effect?

[uneven mason]

TBH the DPS necrolord

[fringe marten]

Due to how it scales it's a lot easier to pack on mastery and have it easily exceed versatility in damage increase for us...Versatility may be a better 'stat' but due to it hitting the same DR curve as everything else, you can't stack it as easily for the same % benefit.

[uneven mason]

is prob the same as the defensive one

with the huge str boost

but we'd have to sim it

[fringe marten]

Is it the bonesmith that gives the % mainstat while using banner? I'd have to imagine it is.

[floral pewter]

no, Emeni gives strength on banner

[dapper swift]

Im going to stick with my pretty blue angel people spells lmao

[fringe marten]

or is that a conduit you can socket into anyone?

[floral pewter]

Bonesmith is +3% str/armor and the 10s fight-after-death

[fringe marten]

Wow..and she is still inferior to the bonsmith?

Kyrian/pelagos as is...is still very good; but if I could just swap the signature ability of pelagos and kleia...Kyrian would be untouchable.

has anyone ever tried doing serious keys with Mikanikos...and that Driftglobe core stun?

[uneven mason]

Yo - we heard you liked it when DPS facepull other packs, so we cut out the middle man and sent an swolkin to knock your mobs around like marbles.

[copper lava]

yo I am here to join the FOTM club.

[balmy coral]

If I go emeni for dps, which is the next best soulbind for prot?

[chilly brook]

Heirmir

Tbh pretty sure heirmir is gonna be the best dps soulbind

[copper lava]

How long is the emeni stat buff for us? I know its dependant on the cov ability its duration, like druid/monk its 5 secs

[chilly brook]

Crit go brrrrr

[balmy coral]

But the huge strength buff would put weight the crit buff?

20% strength every 2 minutes vs 10% crit every minute. Strength sims much higher

[twilit jay]

also necrolords got that smexy plate armor

[floral pewter]

if we had 2 potency conduits actually worth running, I feel like Marileth would be not bad for the Frictionless Coating shield

[copper lava]

venthyr > necrolord > armor looks :D(NF/kyrian sucks)

[floral pewter]

maybe? 3% strength all the time PLUS the crit bonus, vs 13% strength with 1/6 uptime

[twilit jay]

yeah but vnehtyr is meh for prot lol

[balmy coral]

I transmog pally plate on my warrior anyway so meh

[amber herald]

😠

paladins are lame QED

[balmy coral]

My warrior runs recolored judgement and lawbriber, lightforge and soulforge and my pally runs recolored might and wrath with valor and heroism.

[uneven mason]

So you enjoy looking like some clownshoes with resolution issues.

[amber herald]

fem dwarf with a slutmog or get out

[balmy coral]

I don't mix and match sets, those are the 4 sets I cycle through.

[uneven mason]

I mean, doesn't counter my statement in anyway

[balmy coral]

Well I wanna look pretty so there's that!

[uneven mason]

Failing hard with that armor

😄

[copper lava]

SERVERS UP

GO GO GO HEROIC LEAP TO GLORY(puns intended)

[twilit jay]

mmm lets get it

[sterile moss]

heroic leaping to vault atm

boys...

finally

[pine marsh]

POG

[median tulip]

Nice Scale, congratulations

[pine marsh]

Can a kind soul check the available wings for me ? So I know if i have to grind out corridors today 😄

[sick sentinel]

Any sims or information regarding Nerco changes for M+

[median tulip]

https://c.tenor.com/9Tt2qNCOWB8AAAAM/check-the-pins-kowalski.gif

[amber herald]

any streamers playing prot warr right now?

[sterile moss]

❤️

[sick sentinel]

Thanks

[twilit jay]

oh thank goodness its upper reaches this week, need that reprisal love

[plush tendon]

So what build is everyone trying now with reprisal?

[north rampart]

Everyone dropping thunderlord for reprisal?

[plush tendon]

more like dropping The Wall for Reprisal

at least for M+

[pine marsh]

is it?

[uneven mason]

TFW TL was never actually worth crafting

[twilit jay]

reprisal is charge and intervene grant you shield block, revenge and gen 20 rage

[sterile moss]

for a summary

[deep steppe]

TFW you did all your KSM with TL and not the Wall

[quartz briar]

I got so used to playing with wall on ~1.25 minute cd that I never bothered crafting TL

What is expected cdr from just AM on wall atm

[uneven mason]

You can do KSM without any lego and a PS4 remote. I Mean, I haven't but TW always served dual purpose.

[deep steppe]

thats fair tbh

now i can put my TL in my bank and never look again

[uneven mason]

TL just made me sad

reminded me of an age gone by

[sullen flame]

I want to love thunderlord. Maybe one day I'll be able to love the clap again.

[dire totem]

I regret leveling it all the way to 235 instead of TW 😦

[uneven mason]

I regret making Deathmaker for fury

[grand drum]

Which 2 rings should i wear?
For reference I currently have 8.3% crit, 24.7%haste, 18/9% vers, 23% mast. Im thinking the 2 higher ilvl ones?

[dire totem]

I did that too 😦 😦 I kept making meh choices lol

[quartz briar]

Stick to verse imo

[uneven mason]

why is this even a question?

yeah the 2 higher ilvl ones

[sterile moss]

you're thinking right. but upgrade those enchants lol

[potent anvil]

Apparently, reprisal is giving 6s of shield block in-game 🤷

[sweet kayak]

Is there a macro that makes you intervene nearest party player for reprisal?

[grand drum]

lose so much vers thats why i was asking

[uneven mason]

mostly I regret running NW like 60 times to get DM to drop

[sterile moss]

WHAT

[uneven mason]

SHHHHHHHHHH

[fading quiver]

🥳

[dire totem]

Oh shit, that sucks. I got it on like my 3rd or 4th run

[quartz briar]

I mean if you're talking m+ the crit will outperform verse with more stat=better
But if you're looking at raid or tyrannical high keys where bosses can kill you in 3 melee, verse is significantly better

[ionic fern]

It's still giving 6s on PTR as well.

😂

[potent anvil]

I'll allow it.

[sullen flame]

Abuse it before the hotfix later this week

[uneven mason]

The servers are so unstable

that they're probably hotfixing as we speka

[limpid pawn]

how good is the reprisal lego on 4 seconds once it fixes

[quartz briar]

And rings/necks don't give primary so they're the easiest to play with ilvl like that @grand drum

[limpid pawn]

like will wars really be viable

like S/A tier

[ripe mirage]

so guys you will go with reprisal for raiding too? or stick to TW for raiding

[uneven mason]

🤦

"viable"

[torpid wolf]

the

PINS

[signal plover]

S tier for Shut the fuck up about tank tiers kek

[uneven mason]

K tier is top tier

"Kite"

AKA - Sir Robin

[signal plover]

"Kek"

[dapper swift]

Legs or boots for reprisal legs right?

[uneven mason]

I wonder if we could write a script for Eyir to respond with the meaning of "Viable" every time the word is used.

[twilit jay]

yeah @dapper swift

[dapper swift]

ty

[floral pewter]

still easily the best M+ leggo, and a big buff over 9.0

[sturdy sable]

Good idea

[dapper swift]

so blizz literally making us vendor our thunderlord? lmao

[uneven mason]

once TL was nerfed it was pretty bad

IDK how people kept on crafting it

[sterile moss]

If it means we actually have a good legendary, I'm happy

[torpid hill]

so 220 Sanguine Vintage dropped in my chest. 4 ilvl increase over IQD (and of course way better as a trink). I'm suspecting this is the right choice from my chest.
I have the full 226 row for m+; 226 ring replacement for 213 rings, or 226 belt for 220 belt.

[midnight stone]

It wasn't pretty bad, just wasn't as good

[floral pewter]

wait, what did Thunderlord do originally? I didn't realize it had been nerfed

[sharp sun]

^

[stuck oxide]

the trinket buff went live or not

[sterile moss]

it did

[sterile moss]

at one point on the beta, it reduced cd of demo by 3 seconds per target hit by tc, uncapped

kekw

that was pretty ridiculous

[floral pewter]

oh jeez yeah, that would be ridiculous

[midnight stone]

Right - it was ridiculous, and nerfed to good

[sterile moss]

relative to our other non-spectacular options

[uneven mason]

I mean, the 3s uncapped version was weaker than what VDH has

but you know 🤷‍♂️

[patent osprey]

where are my banner bois at 😉

lets take a picture sometimes this week

[ebon hound]

👋

[ionic fern]

Did you really @patent osprey ?

[floral pewter]

I'm flying over to Oribos to switch right now

[sterile moss]

don't leave the Winter Queen...

[patent osprey]

@ionic fern ill be a banner boi, after I rekill sire tonight. I don't wanna do mythic reclear with 5 renown

[sterile moss]

😦

[floral pewter]

WORLD FIRST: mythic Sire kill with no conduits

[patent osprey]

@sterile moss I CAN'T GIVE GOOD ADVICE ON MY STREAM without actually trying it 😉 I suffer so many won't have to

Ill get the full PUG experience trying to get renown and maximizing banner

like chasing after boomies and mages when I think theyll combust/CA

[sterile moss]

lol

[broken cedar]

😄

[inner goblet]

is this any good

for m+ simming

[ionic fern]

You move towards them...mobs move with you..they move away cause they see mobs running at them.

😂

[sterile moss]

who knew... the group kiting meta

[ionic fern]

Make a macro like "STAND STILL I WANNA BANNER YOU"

[broken cedar]

^

[sonic tangle]

Opinions on Decanter of Anima-Charged Winds?

[rich ember]

I just saw all over general that torghast isnt giving soul ash, so everyone knows.

[wild sandal]

is there a WA that tells u who will get the buff when u drop it?

[patent osprey]

I will make a Banner macro that screams at people 🙂 no worries

[uneven mason]

"due to increased demand from Legendary changes, torghast is experiencing a soul ash shortage, we expect a shipment from china in about 2 weeks"

Building legos meets building PCs

[wanton condor]

3s per enemy uncapped + UF would actually be nuts

5 man pull, 15s per, have stupid uptime

[sacred roost]

new buffs change anything for us in talents/legendaries/covenants?

[deep steppe]

[uneven mason]

Yes, like BFA

[mighty cairn]

this is a really dumb question but does the necro banner follow you around or do you drop it like war banner

[uneven mason]

No, its a buff applied when you cast it

[ionic fern]

It's just a buff on you now. VIsually it's on your back.

[mighty cairn]

ah I see - it's 2 closest allies when buff is applied or calculated at all times?

[wanton condor]

I don't think it was quite that crazy (but getting there), it's that BFA you also did stupid damage and got everything else reduced as well

[uneven mason]

when buff is applied

[uneven mason]

15s CD on DS in BFA was a long CD

rather gap

[clever quiver]

how is necro prot doing

[uneven mason]

servers literally just came up

[mighty cairn]

o that's interesting - so with reprisal in m+ charge, intervene boomkin, banner, charge might be common with big pulls and stuff

[uneven mason]

lets get our crystal ball to check Plka next week

[desert folio]

i see reprisal gives 6s of shield block, bug or revert?

[uneven mason]

its a SHHHH

[deep steppe]

^

[desert folio]

yeah my mistake it's actually working correctly smile

[deep steppe]

🙂

[safe fulcrum]

Any change to talents with the buffs for mythic + or are we still rocking ravager + bolster

[sharp zealot]

Do we run double time or still Rumbling Earth?

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19497343

Me as a necrolord now

[deep steppe]

[sterile moss]

storm bolt or double time

not rumbling

[desert folio]

if you have a melee boi to intervene to i dont think you need double time

[sharp zealot]

not even for Reprisal uptime?

[uneven mason]

when the hell

did we run rumbling earth

[sterile moss]

a case can be made for it, but storm bolt has great value in m+, especially with pugs

[deep steppe]

Stormbolt or bust

[uneven mason]

Stormbolt

[desert folio]

yeah stormbolt too valuable imo

[uneven mason]

4life

[desert folio]

4s of immunity, think of it like that

[uneven mason]

ranged interrupt

[sharp zealot]

I haven't tanked for a solid like 40 ilvls

[uneven mason]

think of it like that

[sharp zealot]

basically since day 2 of the xpac

so Stormbolt it is

[sacred roost]

Is Unstoppable force worth taking now? over ravanger or into the fray?

[timber lagoon]

Don't think so

[desert folio]

uf is better than it was but ravager is the choice still imo

[deep steppe]

no

[final gorge]

is the wall still better for raid over the reprisal?

[signal plover]

Yeh

[uneven mason]

yeah

[desert folio]

probably

[final gorge]

ok ty

[signal plover]

Yeh

[uneven mason]

yeah

[timber lagoon]

yEh

[uneven mason]

yup

[deep steppe]

[rich ember]

Wait, so you guys don't run the shockwave talent/conduit for those sweet ass 18 sec CD 3 sec stuns?

[signal plover]

Neh

[deep steppe]

nope

[rich ember]

?!??!

[timber lagoon]

neH

The extra ranged stop is too valuable

[uneven mason]

No, because Shockwave is a crappy AE stun compared to other AE stunning classes

[signal plover]

DReh

[uneven mason]

and

[sterile moss]

it's a small 2 sec stun that puts dr on everyone else's cc

[barren socket]

just did a layer 8 and the end boss didn't drop soul ash

[lofty widget]

also its only 2 seconds

[uneven mason]

Stormbolt has 30 rage

[barren socket]

just a headsup

something fucky

[uneven mason]

we kow

[desert folio]

ty for warning

[timber lagoon]

Thx for the heads up

[signal plover]

If only

[uneven mason]

20 range

its farther than I can spit

which makes it better than shockwave

know what we need Paw?

[timber lagoon]

There are so many casts dps can miss that you can control with storm bolt

[uneven mason]

8.0 Throw stone

warrior esque in flavor

[signal plover]

AM baseline? Fury sexecute?!?

[timber lagoon]

Id anything if helps the healer more than anything. Ie fungal storm

[desert folio]

id coom if we got fury execute

[uneven mason]

and it would 1 shot casters

[signal plover]

Dude I'm still waiting for the shout/bandage based warrior healing spec

[grand drum]

hold up, intervene is a 30s cd now?

[fading quiver]

anyone have that charge macro handy?

[timber lagoon]

30s cd yEh

[strong forum]

Since all of SL

[grand drum]

i thought it was 25 lol

[uneven mason]

remember stacking inspiring presence

[signal plover]

Yeh

[uneven mason]

yeah

Warrior #1 on healing

[ionic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/reminisce-memory-fond-memory-thinking-back-old-days-gif-9974161

[signal plover]

2 woyers even

[lilac quail]

Do we like the sto... bounding stride?

[strong forum]

I love it

[signal plover]

Yeh

[timber lagoon]

yEh

[lofty widget]

nah

[uneven mason]

yup

[signal plover]

Some ppl are all about crackling

[lofty widget]

its personal preference

[desert folio]

crackling thunder is for nerds too scared to facetank 🙂

[strong forum]

Ever since cata gave me that movementspeed as a glyph I can't live without it

[timber lagoon]

It's really preference

[signal plover]

We argued in here for like 2 hours once and concluded that its a small enough difference to be personal preference

[strong forum]

Always break my back when I heroic leap and it don't get movement speed after

[safe fulcrum]

Menace gang rise up

[timber lagoon]

[signal plover]

Neh

[uneven mason]

☝️ If I want to go slow I have a BDK or Guardian Druid

[deep steppe]

[ionic fern]

You guys wanna have a interesting evening after i go off?

[deep steppe]

[strong forum]

Take me with you

[ionic fern]

9.0.5 Mythic+ talents.

Lets pin

[strong forum]

Ohoho

[fading quiver]

😮

[deep steppe]

[uneven mason]

pin it

[lilac quail]

what even is that

ew

[ionic fern]

😂

[desert folio]

im disgusted

[strong forum]

[grand drum]

double time too

[sacred roost]

where's this white tree mount I keep seeing from?

[uneven mason]

wait Mwahi

you have Stormbolt in there

fix it

[strong forum]

The white tree is in gondor

[lilac quail]

should be in your mount journal

[uneven mason]

to Rumbling

[strong forum]

Everyone knows that

[ionic fern]

Jeh, my bvad. 😦

[signal plover]

Mwahi's got da covid brain

[grand drum]

nah take double time

[ionic fern]

Hei, don't bully double time.

[sterile moss]

No impending victory... 🤮

[ionic fern]

I still rock it.

Gotten too used to having double Charges.

😦

[uneven mason]

@patent osprey should use these for a +20 and make everyone go whaddafunk

[deep steppe]

[signal plover]

Keeping this one for the archives

[sick sentinel]

Double time feels so nice haha

[ionic fern]

[plush tendon]

is this meme or real

[deep steppe]

yes

[uneven mason]

we don't know

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[desert folio]

No memes here

[ionic fern]

I'll just delete this account..and make another one..and get a TC on it without you guys knowing

[signal plover]

Oh god

[ionic fern]

So you got no evidence on me

[signal plover]

This image is too powerful

I cannot be trusted with this

[ionic fern]

It's a MEME.

[signal plover]

I donate to the louve

[smoky sparrow]

yo reprisal not nerfed on live lmao

[sick sentinel]

It’s not?!? Lol wtf

[deep steppe]

shhhhhhhhhh

[plush tendon]

IDK.... seems pretty good

[deep steppe]

dont say anything

[sick sentinel]

I’m about it, all warriors be quiet and they won’t know shhhh

[torpid hill]

need reprisal slot advice. I have 223 haste/mastery legs, and 213 crit/haste boots. I don't think the legs are good enough to say "I should keep these so I can upgrade the boots". my 235 The Wall would be getting replaced with 213 haste/vers pvp shoulders.

my gut tells me I should still build Reprisal legs even with the overall ilvl drop until I fill the other slots

[brisk vector]

so are we switching to necrolord?

[signal plover]

Are u ever gonna do M SLG?

If not, go legs

[strong forum]

even then, legs will continue to be the better slot in 9.1+

[signal plover]

O ya tru

[deep steppe]

[patent osprey]

We did it bois

reprisal ^.^

[sterile moss]

210...

[strong forum]

yeah but does it have crit+haste

[patent osprey]

haste verse 😛

[strong forum]

pah

weak

[timber lagoon]

[ionic fern]

No wonder you can't beat those VDHs in standing.

[signal plover]

Dis damn vulpera gang I swear

[strong forum]

vulpera gang is vulpera gang for a reason

[torpid hill]

@strong forum @signal plover thanks, makes sense. probably not doing mythic SLG any time soon. legs it is.

[broken cedar]

outta interest whats that addon listing the gear on the right @patent osprey

[patent osprey]

^.^

[signal plover]

I know I know

[ionic fern]

😄

[patent osprey]

Elvui Windtools @broken cedar

[strong forum]

gang gang

[dapper swift]

So is it safe to assume double time gained value with reprisal rework is there internal DR on shield block

[signal plover]

Did u loot the shoulders from HD or from vault that one week?

[strong forum]

vault

[ionic fern]

Go stream a dungeon with Reprisal now @patent osprey . 😒

[signal plover]

Aww yeh

[ionic fern]

Get that 7k overall

[wanton condor]

I would go vulp but fuck if I can see where I am on them when I'm zoomed out

going to turn all my characters into HM just so I can tell location by the antlers

[strong forum]

thats the whole point

actually seeing stuff around you

fucking tauren makes you not see anything

[signal plover]

Coward

[fallow beacon]

pog

[sterile moss]

👍 👍

[wanton condor]

seriously, I feel like Orc is a nice compromise, in that I can still see where I am for the purpose of cleaves but also see the enemies

vulp I just get lost

[sterile moss]

wait, were the shoulders the mog or stat option I forgot lol

[strong forum]

mog

[leaden tangle]

what covenant for prot in raids

[patent osprey]

7k dungeon inc with my seismic 😉

[broken cedar]

ty

[sterile moss]

ah good

[signal plover]

Automark yerself :)

[uneven mason]

and remember to change to the new 9.0.5 talents

[leaden tangle]

what covenant will prot warriors be going for raid

[sterile moss]

Well played and grats!

[leaden tangle]

nowe

[patent osprey]

If Mawhi Screenshots it to me

I will use those talents tonight in a m+

[uneven mason]

DO IT

[patent osprey]

only if he wants me to though 😉

[signal plover]

Godspeed sweet soldier

[ionic fern]

Man that came back to haunt me real fast huh.

[signal plover]

Plznoban

[blazing condor]

oh god my eyes

[leaden tangle]

what covenant are prot warriors going this patch now

[silver trout]

😂

[leaden tangle]

anyone

[sick sentinel]

I just threw up

[strong forum]

whatever you like

[sick sentinel]

I am going to use it

[uneven mason]

None, Mwahi mathed out that its a DPS gain to never pick one

To go with our new Bis talents

[wanton condor]

Chaos Undivided is top covenant

[strong forum]

like no meme

[signal plover]

Check pins :)

[strong forum]

whatver you like

[leaden tangle]

i did it says necro for M+ and Raid with good comp

[lusty ember]

so is tlord just second best in every circumstance now or what

[strong forum]

Venthyr for boss dmg
NF for big m+ dmg and good raid dmg
Necro for buffing others dmg
Kyrian for good m+ dmg and a debuff cleanse

[leaden tangle]

but doesnt comment if kyrian or NF is still generally better

[strong forum]

cuz there isnt 1 best

[uneven mason]

because they didn't change

[strong forum]

there just isnt

[uneven mason]

Literally whatever one you like the Xmogo n

[ionic fern]

Gotta make another Cheatsheet.

[signal plover]

Yeah no real standout anymore

[strong forum]

yes

[uneven mason]

"What covenant"
Who fucking cares GO HAM

[sick sentinel]

Where is this damn Valor vendor

[uneven mason]

ALong with literally everything else they forgot to put it in

[signal plover]

In Halls of Valor

[sick sentinel]

Hell yea, back to the halls

[patent osprey]

is it sad that the biggest thing im gonna miss from a NF boi is... soulshape

[signal plover]

Favorite soulshape?

[lusty ember]

RAPTOR

or frog

[sterile moss]

Blizz with the release flops trying to make us feel like a new xpac came out

except without content kekw

[silk peak]

cougar >>

[uneven mason]

Yeah, if I swap I'll mis my doggo form

especially with the shield sticking out of my head

[spiral perch]

ok we're ready to switch to necro?

[strong forum]

no

[uneven mason]

if you want

[signal plover]

Everybody simpin draka

[uneven mason]

We have choices, try not to get excited like the boy who lived in a bubble

[spiral perch]

oh god

[ionic fern]

Done.

[vestal cypress]

What transmog is this @strong forum ?

[wanton condor]

DO YOU WANT
Kite control and cleanse?
More defensives and buffing your bros if you play around it?
To offspec Arms?
Solid all around power and mobility?

[uneven mason]

👍

[signal plover]

Tbf I don't think I've ever used spear as kite control

[uneven mason]

Spear is for pump

[ionic fern]

Really? I honestly enjoy the knockdown.
I got pissed yesterday in a HoA where no one kicked. 😒

[wanton condor]

If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you may be eligible to try Reprisalral. Please contact your doctor if Shield Block lasts for more then 20s

[lusty ember]

i looove the knockdown

[dapper coral]

Anyone have a WA for the Banner buff?

[patent osprey]

Yeah it def is BIS. AA i soo good for keys

but Soulshape is too good QOL

[patent osprey]

if you find one, lemme know. I am also looking for one

[wanton condor]

you going NL or Kyrian next on your covenant world tour?

[ionic fern]

Yes.
Now i can Soulshape out and Charge back in for Reprisal.

[uneven mason]

Especially with how anal Oribos is on mounts

[lusty ember]

my questiong got lost in the shuffle, but is there a use for thunderlord leggo still or is is third best now

[ionic fern]

No real place for it anymore unfortunately.

[signal plover]

TL is fuckin dead m8

[sterile moss]

for details

[lilac quail]

reprisal buff was just too thicc

[lusty ember]

i will mourn it's passing

[dapper coral]

Was the Reprisal nerf rolled back?

[strong forum]

Mythic raid set

[patent osprey]

I will be NL next @wanton condor Then Kyrian will be last 😉

[mild lintel]

What would be the very best weapon enchant for a Human Protection Warrior running (Heroic Castle Nathria & Mythic+ 14's)?

[silver trout]

who else is having a torghast party tonight -_-

[strong forum]

Well torghast doesn't give Ash right now

So. Don't

[uneven mason]

using Thunderlord is like keeping a dead relative in the closet because you didn't want to let them go

[mystic cave]

do you guys think it's worth taking double time over storm bolt in m+ if using reprisal?

[strong forum]

Not if you lack stuns

[silver trout]

it broken atm?

[strong forum]

Ye

[brave jetty]

absolutely

[uneven mason]

very

[dapper coral]

Worked for me

[silver trout]

awesome.

[dapper coral]

Already got my 1140 for the week

[uneven mason]

if you have a lot of stuns/ranged interrupts in your group

[mystic cave]

thanks for the feedback

[spiral perch]

stats for war prot? mastery and vers?

[lilac quail]

haste

[brave jetty]

haste > vers

[mild lintel]

I think it's Haste & Versatility. (That's what I run personally.)

[spiral perch]

oh nice

[patent osprey]

Verse > haste

😉

just piss off nom

[strong forum]

No that's only for bussies

[spiral perch]

[strong forum]

[patent osprey]

34% verse club 😄

[strong forum]

Crit haste gang ww@

Play like it's 8.2

[ionic fern]

I like living on the edge..
"Man..will i parry this bleed or not??? I hope i do.."

Feels so good when it happens tho. 😦

[strong forum]

God I fucking love my Internet just dying randomly during my torghast run

Lemme do my fucking chores

[mild lintel]

Does anyone have good feedback or ideas on the enchant question that I asked? Sorry, not trying to be pushy. Just curious as to what was considered best since I can't find it in any of the pins. ❤️

[uneven mason]

135 valor per keystone

[half epoch]

Is thorgast fixed?

[uneven mason]

no matter what level

[strong forum]

I'm EU cxis

[patent osprey]

isn't torghast bugged @strong forum

[wooden spruce]

BV or BSC raid?

[uneven mason]

LOL
TIME TO HUNT FOR +2s BOYS

[patent osprey]

oh

[distant crystal]

wait so +2 and +15 give the same valor?

[uneven mason]

yes

[distant crystal]

sigh

[strong forum]

Celestial for overall use
Lightless for m+ dmg
Sinful revelation for raid pad

[uneven mason]

TFW Plka single pulls an entire +2 NW for a scrub pug and they get to tell their grandkids about it

[strong forum]

BSC if you play reprisal
BV everything else

[wooden spruce]

oh yeah, watch out for torghast, just run mort'regar (or dont remember the name) and gave me gold instead of soul ash so...yay

[sick sentinel]

Damn....I need to do torghast for my rank 4 Reprisal too =X

[ionic fern]

Good idea. Start educating people on Prot Warrior from early on. If you appear strong in +2s for new players then they will look more favourably on Protection Warriors once they start doing higher keys.

[uneven mason]

I hadn't thought of it that way

[ionic fern]

😂

[uneven mason]

but it gives me a reason to use Seismic

stuff won't hurt until +14 or so..

[strong forum]

So lemme get this straight

You need to do 10 keys

To upgrade 1 trinket

From 210 to 220

This system is epic

[sick sentinel]

Yea.....LOL

[strong forum]

Nice for alts too

Very nice