keep that in mind
#protection
outer solstice
dawn geode
ofc
outer solstice
next week niya will pull ahead a bit with NF
chilly brook
sweet summit
why are you looking at casting pwerk
jagged pier
๐ฎ im in that screenshot
chilly brook
1st and 5th are Venthyr
outer solstice
well atm there is like 0 difference
chilly brook
So realistically it doesnt look like it'll matter much but that's also hungering
signal plover
Lol Sense top 10 before 4th conduit was unlocked
jagged pier
Lol Sense top 10 before 4th conduit was unlocked
yep makes me feel bad
strong forum
fuking Nome ahead of me
๐
undone jacinth
any idea what the lego drop rate is in m+?
chilly brook
Meanwhile my shitter self
undone jacinth
it scales?
sweet summit
at least youve killed hungering ๐
undone jacinth
hm
outer solstice
@sweet summit I feel ya
jagged pier
at least youve killed hungering ๐
F
chilly brook
Although 6 1/2 minute kill sooooo
sweet summit
what
chilly brook
I'm assuming the left is the concept art they made
vocal bison
treebeard lives!
chilly brook
Looks dope
vocal bison
maybe it's not vaporware
chilly brook
I mean middle monitor is clearly 3d modeling it
vocal bison
the dude riding it on the left though, lol
chilly brook
So far I'm feeling good that I voted for the wandering ancient lmao
Especially now that I ended up NF
undone jacinth
thats just a guy working on a dota 2 skin xd
uneven mason
legit
sick sentinel
https://www.wowhead.com/item=172915/50ul-tr4p don't underestimate this item
you can banish your own target invulernable for 1 whole minute,
safe moth
if im going into a pack with no rage and all cooldowns whats the general skill priority
chilly brook
Ravager>charge>avatar>shield block>shield slam>covenant ability
silver trout
wonder if you can use that on mc'd players
chilly brook
Probably actually throw covenant ability ahead of slam
outer solstice
I'd say SB > avatar if you have enough rage
safe moth
ok ty
chilly brook
They're both off the GCD
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
You should be able to activate them both at the same time
outer solstice
yeah but for those that focus on the order
void moat
I generally find i don't have the rage to cast Block before Avatar in my opener
and i miss my opportunity to block every first hit
uneven mason
good thing avatar is off the GCD ๐
outer solstice
https://www.wowhead.com/item=172915/50ul-tr4p don't underestimate this item
it's amazing
uneven mason
and you can do it and SB mid charge
chilly brook
^^
outer solstice
yeah that would be the perfect way
ionic fern
You should Avatar as you Charge, jeah.
void moat
it's pretty easy to get used to
chilly brook
Hence the ordering
void moat
just make sure your buttons for both are comfy
outer solstice
or macro them together in a pullcharge
void moat
Ehhh that's overkill imo
uneven mason
it should be Ravager > Charge+Avatar+SB > Shield Slam > BLARHGHARGHARGH
chilly brook
You shouldn't macro shield block to anything
void moat
i wouldn't wanna tie Avatar to my charge incase I need to hold Avatar for burst phases and things
outer solstice
@chilly brook only to a pull macro, use a different charge once you're engaged
uneven mason
put a shift mod on it
outer solstice
or that
chilly brook
No need tho
uneven mason
^^
outer solstice
makes small finger bois easier time
void moat
Just do what's comfy. but defintely don't make it your usual charge macro
uneven mason
gorilla paw boys eztime
outer solstice
yeah you have to control it
chilly brook
Charge, shield block and avatar are all super common presses
Should be in ez to hit binds
dawn geode
charge is mw up 8)
outer solstice
well thats, 5, shift 1 and shift 3 for me ...
void moat
Hell. I just avatar before I even charge sometimes just to make it easier on myself
uneven mason
5 1 and 3
uneven mason
no shift mods for me on SB and avatar
outer solstice
void moat
LMAO
dawn geode
Z is my universal dps cd for me, so avatar is Z
uneven mason
wait SB is 4
pretty sure..
3 is TC
yeah SB is 4
because thats where they ended up when I started plaing in 2004
dawn geode
E is SB for me, pretty easy to hit
outer solstice
SB is 1 *smug
outer solstice
control shift space
dawn geode
R is always my interrupt
chilly brook
Aka the first button on my mouse
outer solstice
shift 4
void moat
I have mine tied to the mouse button 4 (my first mouse button)
dawn geode
I taunt with V and use my thumb
void moat
for some reason having it tied to my right hand makes it way more reliable to me
outer solstice
hmm, I have interrupt on shift 4 for every class xD
outer solstice
shift is for everything that's off GCD
uneven mason
interrupt is mousewheel click
hardy radish
interrupt is mousewheel click
My man
void moat
in my mind I just find it easier to interrupt while moving if it's on my mouse
ooo that's an intersting way to do it @outer solstice
dawn geode
R is just easy for me, cuz shift R is focus kick
chilly brook
I feel like putting off GCD stuff on shift defeats the purpose of it being off the GCD
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
silver trout
mouse wheel click is interrupt, for everything
dawn geode
Mouse wheel click is my uhh opie
outer solstice
ooo that's an intersting way to do it <@!214865963756158986>
yeah I run SB on 1, IP on 2, avatar on 3 and interrupt on 4 (with shift)
void moat
I love hearing all these answers
chilly brook
Mouse wheel left is spell reflect
uneven mason
ctrl mouse 6 for SW
outer solstice
I feel like putting off GCD stuff on shift defeats the purpose of it being off t...
why though, it's so easy to hit
chilly brook
Shift nouse wheel click is last stand
void moat
it's just kinda fascinating to me how many different ways work so well for people
dawn geode
Mouse 5 is my PTT
outer solstice
it's basically gettign used to it
void moat
yeah!
outer solstice
and with the way of customization we hve
uneven mason
Mouse 5 is my PTT
gorillapaws does tilde still
silver trout
I use a lefty mouse and the num pad, so my stuff is weird
outer solstice
I doubt even 2 have the same setup
void moat
I dunno i'm weird. I just find it very fascinating
chilly brook
why though, it's so easy to hit
Just adds another button to press to something that you're usually wanting to hit asap
outer solstice
@chilly brook for me it's 1 button though in my mind
chilly brook
If it works it works though
dawn geode
gorillapaws does tilde still
I dont have tilde on my FN customized and autographed 60% keeb
silver trout
mouse wheel right is last stand, mouse wheel right is shield wall
outer solstice
yeah it's all about being comfy @chilly brook I have pretty small hands, so I try to keep all of my rotational stuff on 1-5 with modifiers and macros
as I said, my taunt is shift+control+space, call me a weirdo
had that since BC
dawn geode
i can not do control modifiers though, uncomfortable for me, but i control crouch in every fps game
void moat
LMAO
outer solstice
you don't want to hear my holy preist stuff where nearly everthing has a control, and alt or a control + alt modifier
void moat
weirdly enough I have my crouch on my side mouse buttons specificalyl for Apex because there's so much damn movement in that game
chilly brook
And then when crouch lean spamming was a thing in Siege I swapped to crouch on space
๐
outer solstice
but yeah I do 0 casts on my mouse, even though I could
dawn geode
I mousewheel to jump in fps games, its a fun keybind to use for other things
chilly brook
I mousewheel to jump in fps games, its a fun keybind to use for other things
Gotta hit them bhops
dawn geode
ofc
void moat
dah bunny hopping tho 
grand drum
i put ` as my interrupt
void moat
Ooo that's a good one
for some reason i've just never put a bind on `
for some rason I just refuse to do it
i don't know why
dawn geode
ooh what is your auto run?
void moat
i have no logic to it
chilly brook
Back slash
void moat
I think my auto run is still middle mouse for me
chilly brook
Usually if I'm auto running it's not something I need to worry about
outer solstice
ooh what is your auto run?
numpad -
dawn geode
mine is capslock but it gets annoying sometimes, as you can imagine
void moat
Ooo here's another question. Do you guys find yourselves in lead positions a lot, making calls, etc just by nature of being a prot warrior?
void moat
Since a big part of being prot is just KNOWING when damage comes in you pretty much just KNOW the fights pretty well in general
undone jacinth
das keyboard 4 ultimate
outer solstice
I call externals onto me, I sometimes call the raid CDs (I just read down the list of assigend CDs)
I use a Corsair Strafe MK2 RBG with MX Red switches
chilly brook
what keyboards y'all using
Corsair K65 LUX
outer solstice
nice one
chilly brook
TKL
outer solstice
what switches?
chilly brook
Silver
But I actually dont even use my keyboard for wow
I use my xbox controller
Jk
uneven mason
indeed
chilly brook
I love corsair
void moat
yup
void moat
Corsair, the preferred keyboard of prot warrior apparently lmao
chilly brook
So now all my mice are logitech
chilly brook
G600 for wow and I use the G Pro Wireless for FPS and anything else
uneven mason
Now don't laugh, because I've done the 200$ headsets before, but the best sounding/smoothest mic I've used so far, was a Corsair HS50 I picked up for 30$~
its lasted 2 years and has no static
outer solstice
@uneven mason well most 200$ headsets are shit
uneven mason
Corsair makes some good shit
void moat
I don't think headsets make good mics. But they sure as hell make good sound
uneven mason
Yeah I had a Razer headset last time for 130$ and it was garbage
outer solstice
I use a rode NT-1 mic with a focusrite scarlet audio interface
and AKG K701 headphones
void moat
I use a studio microphone tho. AKG 0420 mic
chilly brook
Real headphones and mic>>>>>headsets
void moat
AKG makes fantastic mics
void moat
I'm using a steel series arctis. Comfiest headset i've ever owned. Love the design. Same as the k701
uneven mason
because I blocked the razer software from installing, and thus have saved that mouse from bricking
chilly brook
Audio Technica m50x + at2020
outer solstice
but yeah for headsets and such there are about 5 categories:
- 5$ crap
- 20$ GAMING HAXXOR crap
- 100-200$ ULTRA GAMING HAXXORS
- 50-200$ professional headsets
- 200-300$ entry level professional recording setup
outer solstice
Audio Technica is life
I don't like their headphones though,... I prefer the open backed ones
uneven mason
What did we say about following the guides as if they were law Dr
outer solstice
same price class though
outer solstice
might ggive it a hearing test
chilly brook
uneven mason
True Story, back when VOIP first became a thing I used my older brothers KOSS Studio recording headphones and his Kenwood MC-90 microphone (was like 400$ or something)
outer solstice
well both are old af
uneven mason
he'd record himself playing guitar using them
quite the "discussion" we had when he couldn't find them in his apartment.
<-- ๐ด
chilly brook
@outer solstice you ever watch Z Reviews?
outer solstice
not really
signal plover
Hah nerd
outer solstice
btw there is a review of a special model of the K701 on Z-reviews:
oh well, I'm a hard nerd in other areas shrug
chilly brook
The funny thing is audio is one of the things that is so different for everyone
outer solstice
yeah ^^ but there are things that are just bad
outer solstice
my colleague wanted a recommendation for headphones, sshe wanted to buy some 150โฌ gaming shit
chilly brook
Their directional audio for FPS was next level tbh
outer solstice
I recommended her the superlux HD681 xD
chilly brook
Soundstage was fantastic
chilly brook
Nah
outer solstice
it's so weird, how that plastic thing beats like every gaming headset, and only costs 20โฌ
chilly brook
My m50xs are still doing great but I really need to replace the pads
Like REALLY need to replace the pads
outer solstice
though 1 thing one should not forget for these headphones we're talking about
they need quite the hefty audio interface or they'll sound horrible
what are you using?
outer solstice
yeah I use a focusrite scarlet solo
outer solstice
haha lol
but yeah shall we cut it here and btt? think we littered enough in here *hihi
chilly brook
Lol
chilly brook
Probably a good idea, all I'll say is it was a very focused purchase for a specific use and looks
astral crystal
late to headphone convo but
i bought a pair of hd600 early into the pandamic
love these headphones
astral crystal
My m50xs are still doing great but I really need to replace the pads
i had 598s before, they are so crusty, so so crusty
yeah 598s are amazing too
that's what replaced my 600s
hardy radish
I really need some closed ones though. Very loud apartment now, being so close to the interstate
hardy radish
Plus being at home a lot with roommates etc
chilly brook
I just miss how music, especially EDM, sounded with those open back
astral crystal
what's the name of that japanese company that makes these insane headphones that are basically speakers you wear on your head
STAX headphones
those are the ones
always wanted to try them out
hardy radish
I just miss how music, especially EDM, sounded with those open back
One of the very first things I listened to with my sennheisers was the album Full Circle by Oliver and I just about cried because of how good it sounded compared to the Astro A40s I was used to lol
astral crystal
hardy radish
Oh wow those look hilarious
astral crystal
ya but apparently the sound is nuts
silver trout
those look awful to use for longer periods of time
I have some ATH50s that I love but I end up using my in-ear monitors more for gaming because my kid is loud af
chilly brook
Now all I wanna do is go home grab a good pair of open backed headphones and blast this https://open.spotify.com/track/4BsN2VLlvd3BBJCt7gpwkc?si=baBZhQRLQRG_PCG2p68_Ww
undone jacinth
you need some bone conduction headphones
chilly brook
I have some ATH50s that I love but I end up using my in-ear monitors more for ga...
M50s are great I really bought mine because I had roommates and I didnt think they wanted to hear my music or people talking plus they're pretty neutral headphones which is good for editing
silver trout
M50s are great I really bought mine because I had roommates and I didnt think th...
yah, they're great workhorses. I'm a bass player so something with decent bass response is required outside of general music listening
astral crystal
im just waiting for neuralink to have direct to brain sonorous stimuli
sturdy sable
put them cheekbones to work
I own a pair of those and swear by them
undone jacinth
isnโt being able to hear the outside world weird
sturdy sable
Them being "open ear" is why I bought them
The quality of sound is why I swear by them lol
But yeah it's great to be able to listen to something and hear the world around me
undone jacinth
you got the sonikz ones or whatever, like ยฃ100?
livid dawn
Ah... quality warrior discussion
nimble drift
so I forget to use my sire trinket
outer solstice
Ah... quality warrior discussion
yeah while talking about keybinds we somehow landed and Input devices and sounds gear
livid dawn
I approve of bass ^^
outer solstice
so no COrsair yet? xD xD
frail onyx
My main tank is basically telling me if I want to survive Sire better that I should stack as much vers as possible. Is he right?
livid dawn
daskeyboard has great build quality and I generally love it. But it comes with obnoxious hex screws and I just can't clean it
livid dawn
For my next board, I'm planning on building my own custom build
outer solstice
went from a 10 year old K95 to a Strafe Mk2 (both with Cherry MX-red)
Corsair obviously
livid dawn
My fiance and I bought several brands of keyswitch testers
frail onyx
why do you die?
I don't really die that frequently on our pulls, but it gets hairy especially in the last phase
outer solstice
oh yeah tanks die in last phase when heals have to walk to soak orbs regulary
the only thing you can do is, make sure you have SB up
and try to time your CDs with the hands of destruction
as they are move + big AoE
also don't forget spellreflect to reduce dmg from the dot and other effects
I also try to sit on my healthstone and heal pot for P3
frail onyx
Okay, thanks
livid dawn
I can't stand cherry mx anymore
outer solstice
oh well, I write all day for my job
so I went with the widely available option that puts not much stress on my hands
outer solstice
the blues are too heavy for me
livid dawn
That's where kailh jades come in :D
outer solstice
yeah but they are clicky
and they also seem quite heavy
the most important thing for me is availability so that I don't have to relearn
outer solstice
yep
the strafe MK2 even came with a tool to take the caps off
(don't know the english name)
livid dawn
That's pretty standard these days
outer solstice
sadly not,... often you have to buy it seperately (though it's a <1$ tool)
outer solstice
^^
I need a full size, but I can understand it
I type soooo many numbers for work
and then numpad is just king
livid dawn
outer solstice
I usually bump mine up a tad more xD
I really like the media control on the corsairs too
outer solstice
not even the sound wheel? xD
livid dawn
:O
outer solstice
but my audio interface for comms is in reach
also dem boards are quite durable
my K95 lasted 10 years
and I retired it because of a frame crack,... not of a functional failure xD
livid dawn
Right now, my pc is shitting the bed and I'm afraid I'm too poor to replace the components
outer solstice
(10 years of 10-12 hours use)
livid dawn
after 8 years of service, I think the memory is dying
outer solstice
oh noes
livid dawn
and I need it functional for mythic prog :<
outer solstice
livid dawn
don't wanna bench myself
outer solstice
that sounds like a costly upgrade coming up once you have the $$$
livid dawn
Well. Ram is usually not expensive
but it just feels bad buying DDR3
when it's so outdated
outer solstice
yeah especially old, used DDR3
well buy used, not new then
I still have a lot of DDR3,... but you don't want to buy those,... it's some specialty RAM
livid dawn
outer solstice
like G.Skill PI ๐
livid dawn
this was my pc yesterday during prog
outer solstice
oof
*hug
I sold 1 of my 2x2 GB kits of G.skill PI 2200 Mhz CL7 for over 300โฌ about 1 year ago
that's some freak ram xD don't buy freak ram
livid dawn
:<
outer solstice
even if it's more expensive in the long run, it's a no-worry point
outer solstice
*hug
livid dawn
At least a cpu/mobo/ram upgrade would only cost another $300 or so
But I don't make a whole lot of money
livid dawn
^^
cunning plank
question! Destructive Reverberations
im struggling to find out how to upgrade this conduit
outer solstice
worldboss
livid dawn
Venari
outer solstice
and stygia gamble
cunning plank
thats it?
outer solstice
yes
cunning plank
not nice
outer solstice
sadly
cunning plank
thanks guys
outer solstice
โค๏ธ
livid dawn
So how hard have ya'll been discriminated against in M+ for being prot warriors?
livid dawn
Noice
livid dawn
I agree. I think warriors are great
outer solstice
tanks are pretty awful for M+ atm
all but DHs
but we can manage
thing is, we have a versatile toolkit
we're not a one-trick pony
waxen cradle
mainly you may have to in terms of if you pug prove them wrong and after doing so I get responses of "wow that was way better than I expected"
outer solstice
thing is end of BFA we were a one-trick pony
that was enough for decent play
now we have to use a lot more of our toolkit
waxen cradle
Like DrOwnz said, prove them wrong if you pug so as to break the perception people have of us, or just dont pug and run with friends or guildies and have no issue anyway
outer solstice
it also helps us out a lot if you can be on voice and call AoE interrupts/slows and such
I really like binding shots from hunters ๐
waxen cradle
^^^^^
outer solstice
and owl beams
livid dawn
I have so many interuptssss
waxen cradle
yeah on kite weaks I like hunters for binding and tar trap
outer solstice
yeah NF warrior can interrupt for ages
livid dawn
That's me :D
outer solstice
I did a DoS +14 with a friend this week
he was a bit surprised of 5k DPS on hakkar (hero + pride)
waxen cradle
yeah we just fall off in the damage department in terms of ST damage but that is not just us
outer solstice
even in ST we can beat bad DPS, especially if they are occupied with mechanics and don#t pot or such
waxen cradle
yeah true
waxen cradle
hell all any serious M+ is right now is a kite game anyway and what makes DH's so sought after is they do it better than the rest
livid dawn
While doing 4x more damage
outer solstice
tbh, we can facetank a lot of stuff
waxen cradle
lol yeah true
outer solstice
there are crazier persons in here
outer solstice
yw
true to my origins
started as gnome warrior in vanilla
never gonna deviate
105 rage cap is also very helpful
outer solstice
well you killed 4 bosses, can I plz has that?
waxen cradle
a GNOME warrior... I feel my horde origins telling me to find and punt you across the room, but a Warrior is a warrior, even if its a abomination
outer solstice
but yeah gnome arms warrior in PvP is quite a nightmare from what I hear from horde friends
especially in full PvP gear
waxen cradle
jk bro all warriors are a part of a fraternity of uber kill
outer solstice
no B11 warriors are no warriors
livid dawn
My warrior was undead in vanilla
sturdy sable
Og
livid dawn
and then orc, Be, and now maghar
waxen cradle
mine was Orc
outer solstice
FOR GNOMEREGAN!
sturdy sable
Dwarf
outer solstice
forever
livid dawn
Sunking is supposed to still be easy on mythic I hear
I hear Lady is supposed to be the hardest fight pre sludge
waxen cradle
started Orc, alliance to Nelf, now DiD
outer solstice
lady is a DPS check
sturdy sable
Lady or xysmock depending on who you qsk
outer solstice
got a link?
livid dawn
and hungering went down in like 5 attempts
infinite raid tools?
addon tells everyone to go stand on whatever marker
to soak
sturdy sable
There's a few WAs that help as well
sturdy sable
I have 1 that's everyone's hp plus the mark in a nice set of stacked health bars
livid dawn
legit infinite raid tools is busted
outer solstice
yeah that as well
livid dawn
you don't need to take into account hp or whatever
or debuffs
it just tells you what you should do
outer solstice
lol, gonna suggest it
waxen cradle
I love my DiD warrior, along with being Kyrian lets cleanse like well next to everything that can be cleansed, plus this week I rarely needed to cleanse besides using Fireblood and then if I did I would kite
outer solstice
I hope ppl can reay
livid dawn
then all that's left is to not die to lines
outer solstice
well we play in a square around the boss
noone died to lines
we have so called "highways"
where the lines go
enough spot in each highway for all 3 if they are on the same side
space
nimble drift
ew horde
outer solstice
and EU
nimble drift
/spit
livid dawn
Sad
livid dawn
I need to build a squad for ksm :<
outer solstice
@livid dawn check #transmog
just put in a pic of my gnome with world shrinker
tell me if the shield is too big
livid dawn
=_=
sick sentinel
so, just minus the SA and the crafted item, i already have TW4 and i already have TL4, what should i make for lego 3 when i get there
outer solstice
unhinged for arms PvP?
sick sentinel
im primarily tank, but i should look into arms builds
outer solstice
signet maybe?
it's pretty decent for padding
or what about the kyrian legendary ? that you need 2 of to be really good
if you have a DPS warrior in your raid, you might try that
sick sentinel
alright, i'll look into those 2, should keep me busy for a few months...
outer solstice
just for the lulz
or how about TW on the secondary slot
in case you get a better item for shoulders?
outer solstice
maybe you just want to sit on 5150? and wait for any changes
cunning plank
just tried a +8 sanguine depths, tied to necrotic 9 times
where do you run to drop those stacks at last boss
outer solstice
you don't
cunning plank
dang
outer solstice
if your group can't kill the last boss in time
you lack dmg
that's why +10 is probably easier
pride ftw
how high were your stacks?
cunning plank
first pack of last boss, i managed to get 40 stacks
prob my bad
but idk where to go
cunning plank
there is like 4 packs you go through with the boss
outer solstice
you literally kill the little bears
and you get out of combat for a second
and your stacks drop instantly
cunning plank
was a real chicken in the bottom
outer solstice
but again
if you get up to 40 stacks on the first pack, the little ones probably lived too ling
that's a group task
you need a slow /AoE stuns
to get less tacks
stacks
M+ is a group effort, not a tank takes 3 DDs and a healer for a ride
inland dove
hello quick question. my warrior mains fury if i was to offspec prot as venthyr for M+ would it do okay?
inland dove
okay thank you ๐
our guild lacks tanks that can push 15+ so i was wondering if i would be safe
outer solstice
though revenge might be better for AoE
also, if you go for your first prot legendary
don't go for thunderlords
go for the wall
I think it's a lot more comfortable to play
inland dove
noted
outer solstice
enjoy
potent anvil
final minnow
Gonna ask something stupid: is there any stat cap (kinda) to go for all-in def potential?
Like about 20% haste and rest goes into mastery
lusty marsh
nope
but we want as many stats as we can so they tend to get spread by our gear availability anyway
final minnow
even crit?
deep steppe
shut summit
chilly brook
I mean it's not across the board
but a lot of the scary mobs are getting significant nerfs
cinder pasture
"[With regional restarts] Zolramus Bonecarverโs Boneflay bleed damage reduced by 70% and duration reduced to 10 seconds (was 20 seconds)." Finally, I hated having to save my kyrian pot specifically for that mob
lusty marsh
[With regional restarts] Fixed an issue where Zolramus Bonecarverโs Boneflay bleed damage was reduced by Armor.
I wonder how significant this is
lunar perch
"Developers' note: We've noticed tanks in Mythic Keystone Dungeons feeling pressured to spend more time running away and less time actually tanking than we'd like. In an effort to address this, we're dialing back the tank damage of a number of dungeon denizens who've proven to be particularly painful."
Incredible
shut summit
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astral crystal
tfw dos shadow dmg skeles still not nerfed
solemn magnet
^
sick sentinel
they nerfed the hell out of it
last gazelle
Does booming voice increase the dmg of spear?
hardy radish
Pretty sure? I think it even buffs your damage trinkets. Go smack a dummy and test it just in case tho
undone sun
Pretty sure? I think it even buffs your damage trinkets. Go smack a dummy and te...
does not affect trinkets
vague jetty
What are affixes next week
mellow patio
Inspiring storming I believe
mellow patio
Eh itโs not bad
mighty valley
It's easier to get DPS to focus than it is to get them to spread damage for bolstering at least
sick sentinel
Whats inspiring affix?
solemn magnet
15yrds aura of immune to CC
sick sentinel
O right easy one the no cc
Typically easy from what I saw anyway sure its hell in a รท22
Storming tomorrow, aka the tornadoes pug destroyer
main jewel
Zul'Jin needs to step up if my dumbass is ranked even remotely high
No one plays prot warrior rofl
livid dawn
Hey @outer solstice I know you said you needed a numpad
But this just got posted
and it reminded me of our converstiation
and this seems like a dream keyboard to customize
aluminum frame
hotswappable keyswitches
dirt cheap
hotswap cable
sick sentinel
I am so not looking forwards to tornaders
dawn imp
i think itll be fine with the massive nerfs coming tomorrow
sick sentinel
They give me nightmares
chilly brook
Smh dude
Some people just don't get it
I say something about dungeons being overtuned and get people who don't tank arguing that they should be hard and that I just shouldn't face tank things
sick sentinel
they knock back right?
chilly brook
Apparently 2/3rd of your health in 1/3rd of a GCD at 218 in a 14 tyrannical is deemed ok
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dawn imp
yup >.>
212 and the +13 NW was ass clenching
failed due to the bug on the 3rd boss
woo
chilly brook
Like people argue to use defensives etc.
While not realizing you still get chunked through defensives in 15s
Some dungeons worse than others
PF is the worst offender imo
warm plinth
I'll chunk you through defensives ๐
mighty valley
the tiny little guys with their innocuous claw move that just......... kills you
well, not tomorrow
dawn imp
im sure the holy priest i run with will look forward to tomorrow lol
silver trout
the holy pally I run with is looking forward to these changes too
solemn magnet
Did you guys know the inquisitor can only give prideful 5 times? I just found out spending 82 minutes in a 14 ToP then didn't even get finished.
Someone take me out back..
dull zodiac
am i stupid for wantign to craft leaper as my second leggo? just to have fun on my prot warr alt
chilly brook
Still love this statement
It's almost like they were told by several high profile tanks in beta
jagged pier
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310306000412475393/806033381207834696/unk...
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ionic pewter
If I want to maximise my chances of a 1H weapon in vault should I go fury loot spec before opening?
torn gulch
do you guys have a high ilvl abomination core? how is your experience with it?
i have a 181 ilvl version which is doing like 15% of my healing
modern gale
If I want to maximise my chances of a 1H weapon in vault should I go fury loot s...
The fury loot table has 2 handers and the prot loot table has shields. The only other difference being dps vs tank trinkets. Pick your poison
In other words it'll neither hurt, nor enhance your chances
ionic pewter
Cheers @modern gale
modern brook
Unless you're talking about the raid
Ie if ur gunning for a spherule
Also I'm willing to bet there are more 2hs than shields on the loot table but am less confident in thay
Honestly stay tank spec cause theres a lot of good tank trinkets this expac
paper valve
With the new nerfs coming to m+ will we see a slight change to the tanking playstyle or will it still be heavily based on kiting? or is this something we'll only know once it goes live.
sturdy sable
This is a first
chilly brook
With the new nerfs coming to m+ will we see a slight change to the tanking plays...
hard to tell
tbh it's only addressing half of it but at least it's something
Melees hit pretty hard in M+
It's still very welcome changes
jagged pier
LUL imagine ppl thinking you need vers XD
lavish oracle
probably a PvP player
lavish oracle
PvP players are always weirdly fixated on vers
smoky sparrow
They're addressing most of the tank buster mobs, and warriors do really well on physical dmg
orchid frigate
did a weekly ToP with a boomie in group that i did out dpsd
think he did 1.6k on last boss
wonder if the dungeon changes regards tank damage will change meta some
limpid tide
1.6k is like literally just hitting buttons while looking away for boomie
orchid frigate
since they can stay in and dps more?
maiden ravine
no, they'll pull more and kite more
orchid frigate
ah fairs
waxen cradle
Just did a ToP +14 and that's nowhere near a high key, but the shaman healer said it was there first time with a Warrior tank and that I felt solid, and they never felt in trouble healing me. Low key to be fair but feels good to be able to show people we are not as bad as the community would have people believe.
limpid tide
I main Boomie, outside of convoke, if I'm under 2k it's because I'm talking to someone and not looking at screen, just the way the braindead spec is
orchid frigate
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waxen cradle
They are trying really hard to roll there face across the keyboard and actually missing the keyboard entirely
maiden ravine
crap like this is why I keep not wanting to play warrior
I have no tools to save things
limpid tide
I think overall community is min maxed over something hilariously off kilter, highest keys and highest parses in mythic raid. Classic brought out the full world buff/ mostly warrior dps meta and tried to stuff it into a balanced retail expansion... It's pointless because any spec can time a 15. Absolutely any, and warcraft logs shows it. In fact, look at the dps when you remove the top 5% parses from the +14 logs ... It's almost a straight line
sweet summit
How are u under 2k? Just press starfall 
waxen cradle
If they are literally trying to be that bad or well just are that bad, that is not on your to save them. Watch them die, and give them bad info so they die again and laugh at them
Nah but seriously you can't save everyone. If they have a desire to be good at something they will put the needed time into it to learn it correctly. Otherwise just finish the key and never look back
karmic scroll
or dont finish the key
leaving is an option
some runs are not worth finishing with certain players
imo
maiden ravine
I wasn't going to do another key
orchid frigate
yeah but if youve already invested time...
maiden ravine
it was finish this or no key this week on warrior
limpid tide
I dislike running keys with pugs and having to ask if they've done this dungeon before ๐คฃ because I always get a yes and then someone always fails to do something like idk get inside radius first boss of HoA and soak statue beam on last boss ... Seriously need some people willing to learn stuff before grouping
waxen cradle
yeah true, but I try and not do that unless its REALLY horrible, I mean berrating someone for how bad they are at something might feel good at the moment, but I can assure you they learn nothing from it. I always took the approach of trying to correct bad play I saw from players like that however well they may or may not take it is up to them
maiden ravine
I just feel like I have 0 tools to save people as warrior compared to druid
maiden ravine
doesn't help that my prot warrior is the lowest dps of my 3 tanks, so it's really noticeable when I'm beating any dps on warrior
maiden ravine
I always end up missing typhoon, roots, incap roar, or sigils
limpid tide
Druid utilities huge, but too many buttons that's why I like warrior more... Let me hulk smash simple button layouts
waxen cradle
yeah was about to say the same thing, but the point is it does take a certain level of personal responsibility on the part of the player messing up to make sure they dont mess up, its not always the tanks job to save dps from there fuck ups
lavish oracle
I end up missing shockwave and storm bolt on bear
orchid frigate
storm bolt is awesome
maiden ravine
druid can take bash
lavish oracle
Mass root and ursol's/typhoon are great, though
orchid frigate
mhm
waxen cradle
As a tank I never set around and hold a rallying cry or a challenging shout until I see a dps fuck up, I use them when its the best benefit to me, and to protect the whole group.
lavish oracle
I use rally when I know big group damage is coming
orchid frigate
make sure you tell the group that you used it so they notice ๐
lavish oracle
Prideful, group wide boss hits, thrash/fungalstorm etc
waxen cradle
Just like with Shockwave and Stormbolt I dont set around and wait for someone to fuck up, and save them for that I use them when it will benefit me and the whole group and save everyone or sometimes yes just one person who may have died if I did not
lavish oracle
I guarantee the healers notice without my mentioning it
waxen cradle
@lavish oracle Yeah I use it pretty much the exact same time, when I know a group wide AoE effect or mechanic is coming that will drop the groups health considerably
nimble drift
For the sire defensive trinket, we pretty much using it off cd in m+?
jagged pier
yes
limpid tide
Mass root and ursol's/typhoon are great, though
Vortex and then mass entangle and enjoy the dps doing the work they're meant to do yup
chilly brook
ima put it into my shield block as a macro
I wouldn't
It's much better to leave it off macro and use it less if it means you get more effective uses out if it even if it's less use overall
nimble drift
I mean
I just want to use it when I'm in combat
and I'm only using SB in combat
I just did a 14 ToP with the macro and it was actually nice
Healed me 100k more than it did when I was worrying about using it
shielded me 188k and healed me 28k
orchid frigate
heh interesting that when i talk to VDH rerolls they also think its way OP
and think it needs to brought in line
blazing condor
i havent done inspiring or storming for that matter. How good will next week be? seems pretty alright
orchid frigate
very good
blazing condor
does inspiring work as beguiling did in bfa?
orchid frigate
yupp
orchid frigate
mhm
blazing condor
whats usually the best way to deal with it? just zerg or root the inspiring dood
jagged pier
ither
blazing condor
yeah i guess i'll have to check it out once it's live
lofty widget
speaking of inspiring, i heard something about mind control working to have the other mobs kill it, does that still work?
lofty widget
sweeet, playing with a spriest finally paying off!
nimble drift
If you MC the inspired mob do you get the buffs and the mobs not get buffed by it?
bitter crest
In my opinion MC is way too time consuming.
undone jacinth
Risen bonesoldiers survived the nerf ๐ฃ
bitter crest
Yep, i am surprised about this.
jagged pier
In my opinion MC is way too time consuming.
its fuking not bad in WoD me and friends did a gold timed skyreach by MCing the most powerful mobs in the dungeon and having the trash kill them its a killer strat
bitter crest
I think we are not in WoD anymore. ๐
jagged pier
the timers in CMs were far more difficult to get than m+ so saying its a waste of time it just wrong
blazing condor
๐ i did CM in MoP but i did like all but one and now i regretti
bitter crest
There is no wrong if i say "in my opinion".
jagged pier
u can have the wrong opinion ๐ค
undone jacinth
if youโre able to kill the packs with the inspired mob then you just objectively lose time by MCing it so heโs right
undone jacinth
no
nimble drift
hm idk fortified mobs that are inspired can hurt
i pref just polying or hunter trapping the mob
undone jacinth
they donโt do extra damage
nimble drift
ik but they hurt because you can't cc or kick them
undone jacinth
most inspired mobs are in pretty good packs that you should be able to blast... if youโre ccing/MCing youโre losing a lot of time so itโs only something you do if you need to
bitter crest
I can imagine in SoA CC can be pretty helpful on some of the packs, maybe at the beginning of Mists too.
undone jacinth
Wait is it bursting instead of inspiring?
valid zodiac
Any thoughts on the new nerfs for dungeons/Tyrannical?
undone jacinth
Guru says bursting
undone jacinth
Any thoughts on the new nerfs for dungeons/Tyrannical?
Very very very welcome
But missed a couple big offenders
sweet summit
Its storming inspiring
undone jacinth
Fack
got my hopes up
bursting storming would be noice
I assume spires will be the rough inspire key
maybe dos
valid zodiac
Well of course the nerfs are a welcome change but I have a feeling that people will now prefer DH even more considering they will be able to stand their ground much longer before kiting.
jagged pier
we can stand our ground much longer than a DH
strong forum
Dungeons have inherent issues
Ontop of every tank having inherent issues
Tank balance won't change if you don't touch tank balance
That much should be obvious
Those nerfs aren't nearly enough
They're good, but not good enough
Most of these nerfs are nerfs to abilities that were outright kited/avoided to begin with
Still good changes tho
undone jacinth
donโt think people are gonna prefer DH โeven moreโ
no reason for much to change
jagged pier
they need to change how rewarding m+ is to make me want to run them tbh
strong forum
Absolutely, my rsham is 227 in bags
Absolutely, my rsham is 227 in bags
Like, 210s aint gonna do shit or 35 anime
sand obsidian
Hey boys, guild needs me to tank H CN tomorrow since one of our tanks won't make it. Gonna upgrade my The Wall to 225 and should be around 201 ilvl. Is that gonna be enough to not be a burden on heals?
jagged pier
should be enough some bosses will hurt, but play correctly youll be fine
i was 202 when i killed sire for the first time
sand obsidian
oh shit nice, we're only 6/10 so no chance of seeing sire tomorrow lol
jagged pier
yer but it was more of me sayign youll be fine ๐
strong forum
You'll be just fine if you do mechanics properly
That's your first and foremost priority
sand obsidian
Thanks, I've done on normal and the other tank is gonna walk me through changes for heroic so hopefully goes well. Hopefully I get a good piece from vault tomorrow as well.
strong forum
I hope I get sks belt
valid zodiac
I went Sire HC first time yesterday and the biggest smacks were when I would go through mirror and he would teleport
jagged pier
use SR and turn around
the tp does shadow damage and you can turn to face him before he melees u
valid zodiac
I tried turning asap but I didn't know about SR. Thanks for the tip
It was a pug anyways we got to 4.6% but the pulls were taking so long I felt I was in old Method
Got to 2AM so had to bail
gaunt crane
any good prot warrior streamers or someone who put mythic+ videos on youtube?
jagged pier
Nome and Sense Plka as well
gaunt crane
the faq has only pvp channels linked, should have both ๐
ionic fern
Not a bad idea.
I can add them.
blazing condor
Plka is #1 rio right now and streams often, would recommend
orchid frigate
is omnicd the play now for showing party cds?
jagged pier
use whatever you like
orchid frigate
i'll try it out a bit today
will have a lot of time on my hands going into choreghast layer 8 with my fresh rdudu and my friends fresh tank
bitter crest
use SR and turn around
I noticed yesterday that spell reflect doesn't work with Remornia porting to me. But honestly i don't know if the port does "special" damage as Sires port does.
undone jacinth
omnicd is big time qol
old flame
OmniCD?
undone jacinth
party cool down tracker
old flame
Is that the same as the one that puts timers on my abilities on my action bar?
Or is this a different omni
soft flower
that's omnicc i think
old flame
Ah yes. Okay I'll check it out then!
gaunt crane
I was watching a nome stream and I saw that he removed necro stacks somehow?
jagged pier
kyrian pot, drops combat, bop and macro to remove, they just fell off as he wasnt getting hit
gaunt crane
oh ok thanks
strong forum
Don't forget about the tactical parry
Or shockwave when the debuff is about to fade through luck, so you get that guaranteed few seconds of leeway to reset it
gaunt crane
tactical parry? oO
strong forum
Rng
sweet surge
helped friends do a 15 last night. Used 2 Kyrian Pots. They healed for a total of 2.9K 
gaunt crane
oh ok xD
strong forum
Just being lucky
gaunt crane
if I rely on rng i'm going to die a lot
sweet surge
Why does Kyrian Pot have to heal first and then remove stacks and not Remove stacks first and heal then ๐ฆ
strong forum
if I rely on rng i'm going to die a lot
That's why don't you rely on it, never take a gamble with rng as tank
If you're not certain you're gonna life, make steps to make sure you're gonna life
Thats the most important thing as tank
sweet surge
#lyfe
ebon hound
if about to non-life, don't
gaunt crane
that's wisdom right there
sweet surge
such juicy dungeon nerfs to the exact mobs that give prot trouble โค๏ธ
sweet surge
Make AM a Tier1 talent, increase haste scaling on SB, lower rage cost on IP, increase damage on TC by 500% tyvm
and make Ravager do stuff too
strong forum
All we need is an increase in dmg
And a 1sec change in regards to block
Whatever that 1sec change may be
And we're gonna start rolling
jagged pier
I mean ravager does do stuff ๐ค
sweet surge
gaunt crane
I'd love a Heroic leap cd reduce.. 45 is sooo much
sweet surge
Lookat how sad TC and Ravager are
jagged pier
i mean just take the talent
strong forum
That's why I play bounding stride
sweet surge
granted, I was playing arms conduits but whatevs