#protection
nimble drift
I'm leaning towards the 2 with the highest haste, so tthe last 2, but if I drop the pvp one I lose 127 verse
thoughts?
muted pendant
do it
undone jacinth
when ur trying to do ur 14s for weekly and a warlock does 2k dps
thats not where u wanna be in life
last mason
what would u guys upgrade with conq
197 emitter to 220 badge
or 207 gloves to 220 gloves
strong forum
gloves
armor pieces have higher prio than rings/neck/trinkets until you have max ilvl on them
amber herald
because of the armour?
limpid burrow
What loot spec i should open vault
rough egret
because of the armour?
Yes
viral vector
hey, for offtanking as prot what legendary should I get?
mighty valley
what does offtanking mean in this case?
viral vector
off spec tanking when a tank needs to leave the raid early I usually tank
mighty valley
I think if you try and find a legendary that's OK at both DPS and tanking you'll just end up nerfing both
viral vector
I already have my dps one
mighty valley
Just have your main DPS legendary and then swap to The Wall when it's time to tank
viral vector
the wall, ok that's what I was asking for XD
mighty valley
yeah, sorry, didn't know if you meant offtank as in 2nd tank
which is really just Other Main Tank in most cases
fringe marten
2 stacks of what, on whirlwind?
torpid granite
Anyone wanna take a look at my logs.
open monolith
layer 4 floor 18 boss damage lol
fringe marten
...what powers did you get lol?
open monolith
and im not even venthyr
fringe marten
or was it 40? whatever it is...it's mad nasty
it doubles the damage to begin with, then you just make sure to get the 30 or 40? executes in, then that just because your only rage dump LOL
I miss the original jagged knife, or whatever it was. the 10,000% damage on heroic throw
open monolith
30
that's theone i had
with charge and leap giving 200% damage
avatar (recklessness with signet power), charge, execute spam
intervene out, charge back in, execute spam
leap, execute spam
dead
fossil summit
So one thing I noticed is sometimes I'll just tank huge pulls in M+, but sometimes I'll start lacking rage, and I'm wondering if maybe its because I use alot of dmg spells (Revenge and stuff), I also use Ignore Pain alot but yeah Idk in some pulls it feels sometimes like I'm having toruble generating enough rage to spam mitigation abilities and then it gets dangerous
I rarely die I'm usually able to execute an ennemy to get victory rush and survive but Idk
quiet dove
Yo, where can i see the best trinkets for M+?
light kite
first time playing PROT, how do i heal myself
steel mauve
that shouldnt be your focus at all
light kite
i just went prot so i dont get dismounted while i pick floewrs lol
but my hp is getting low w/ 100s of mobs hitting me after a hour
no way to heal?
steel mauve
kill some thing and victory rush off it, use indom talent and spend rage
light kite
oof
steel mauve
we arent built for healing at all, it helps smooth damage intake in group content but we are almost purely a mitigation tank, we reduce our damage intake as much as possible
light kite
ok
sick sentinel
anyone know of a reliable way to reset tenderize stacks on necrotic wake?
fervent axle
First 3 weeks of the vault were very lack luster for me, this week I got a 220 Blood-Spatter Scale. I'm no longer a vault hater
lavish oracle
@sick sentinel trees, growl, hammer stun, bop, or have a buddy taunt to help you kite
worthy ingot
Hmmm double potency Pelagos, or take the 1 of each route and turn phial into a hot
lavish oracle
I'm looking at double endurance like 👀
I don't think double potency is the way to go, though
Show of Force just doesn't perform
chilly brook
Double potency is pretty underwhelming
Imho
Double endurance is nice though
AM build in raids with shield wall reduction and increased rage gen
👀
pastel sleet
im noticing, that Wall is quickly catching TGV for leggo in m+. is this the new play?
chilly brook
Hard to tell
I use the wall but it's because it's what I crafted
Because raid
TGV has a lot of potential in dungeons especially this week
I'm no top dog but like 952io and I could certainly see areas where I'd want one or the other
sick sentinel
best enchant for weapon?
waxen cradle
depends on what your doing content wise I usually carry several of them and swing around chants, but for M+ I like Lightless Force
sick sentinel
i was using the one that they take 6% more damage from you for a bit
waxen cradle
Well even being a Warrior and the tank that everyone almost automatically expects to fail in M+ I always run Lightless Force in M+
fossil summit
Hey I have a question about Kin-Tara, first boss of SoA,
So we just did a M+3 SoA, and while its easy and we timed it easily with 17 minutes left,
Kin-Tara fucking destroys me, like I do the strat where you always kite her BEHIND the bird, but she does this AoE Cone burst attack I think its overhead slash, and it LEGIT does like 80% of my HP instantly even with dem. shout up, Ignore pain and shield block
Like am I supposed to be able to tank it or am I supposed to dodge it?
because it seems super hard to dodge
waxen cradle
The meme boy streamers and there meta cough (bullshit) did there job well to convince everyone were vasstly inferior to other tanks in M+
torpid granite
im so torn on what tank to main haha
waxen cradle
But I do not feel we do all that bad to be honest, we do however have such a strong perception of being a weak M+ tank that if you have to pug your keys... oh man talk about a shit show trying to convince people otherwise
@fossil summit You can dodge that attack, by stepping out of the way of it before it go off, or just make sure SBlock is up, use a CD, and pumping extra rage into IP as you would normally, but if it hits you without SBlock up, or you are unprepared to dodge it then yes it can shit on you
tired sun
Hey all, im just starting to look into prot warrior. I main an arms warrior but was looking to off spec prot to run lower ilvl guildies through m+. Is that a decent idea? Or should i run a different class that has an easier time with m+?
fossil summit
wait so even if its an AoE Cone it counts as a melee attack?
vocal bison
if you just insta strafe right or left as soon as the cast starts you'll miss it, if you keyboard turn you'll probably die
waxen cradle
Also we are one of the tanks that has a pretty good chance of surviving it unless your at a fairly high key level and just completely unprepared for it
On high key Tyrannical weeks I would just make sure you dodge it, but on Fort weeks if for some reason you do not dodge it but prepare for it you should be fine
low kindle
<@!153409313761656832> You can dodge that attack, by stepping out of the way of...
that's not true, they fixed it, you can "natural" dodge or parry it but you can't like leap away or intervene out to dodge the attack. And it's not a cone anymore so don't worry about hitting melee dps.
mighty valley
Twisting Corridors is like ice cream for dinner
pliant rock
How much haste is too much bois?
steel mauve
no such thing
pastel sleet
@low kindle can you link the patch note where they made it not a cone. i cant find it. pretty sure facing it away from melee and side stepping is still the play
edgy edge
is venthyr actually that bad for prot warrior
idk ive been watching some 15+ keys a prot warrior
hes using venthyr and doing well
cinder pasture
There's a screenshot in case you don't wanna scroll down/search 😛
waxen cradle
Venthyr just gives more mobility in the form of there Covenant ability, and of course Condemn which is hella big ST damage, but outside of that its really a matter of what I considered rather trivial covenant conduits. That all being said I feel Kyrian and NFae vastly out perform Venthyr especially in M+
Also me being a DiD and Kyrian gave me, 2 ways to cleanse necrotic so that felt awesome as hell last week
Just literally let them stack up, cleanse if the pack was not dead by then I would either run or spend one cleanse, and then on next pack or 2 packs based off of the size of the pull use second cleanse there. Honestly being Kyrian, a Dwarf, and a Warrior gave so many ways to cheese necrotic it was silly last week.
pastel sleet
@cinder pasture @low kindle thank you very much. so i guess now we just used defensive and pray?
undone jacinth
it doesn’t do that much dmg
pastel sleet
aight
valid wind
trying to decide between getting thunderlord on my hands or my feet. According to raidbots the legendary has the same stat amounts, so does it really matter? I noticed the guide says to prioritize boots because theyre weighted more but maybe im misunderstanding
my hands are currently 187 and feet are 207 so hands would be much more of an upgrade
fossil summit
what are healers that synergize the best with prot warrior, in M+
my friend plays Druid healer and sometimes I feel like either they're getting overwhelmed or I am
ocean bloom
what food is better defensivly haste or feasts?
low kindle
trying to decide between getting thunderlord on my hands or my feet. According t...
I think there's a decent hand that drop from raid so I crafted the feet
undone jacinth
my hands are currently 187 and feet are 207 so hands would be much more of an up...
the hands drop off generals or something
decent feet drop off shriekwing
if ur doing mythic at any point then u will find it easier to get boots
but the better answer is it doesn’t matter, make it on whatever ur want... try not to think too much about your gear right now though if u will have the chance to upgrade
valid wind
that makes sense. I appreciate the input. Unfortunately pretty much just do M+ as a tank so ill do hands
undone jacinth
there’s a difference of like 12 armour or something I think
yeah fair, it’s gonna come down to whatever comes in ur vault and u can’t control that
open monolith
We are going to be able to sell Torghast TC runs for insane money
sage cairn
would you guys use 210 stoneheart or 184 viscera
undone jacinth
probably stoneheart for the strength
last mason
@undone jacinth would you upgrade 207 gloves to 220 or 197 trink to 220 badge
id buy conq gloves and upgrade them
last mason
yes
undone jacinth
personally that’s the trinket I want so I’d do that because gloves are low value anyway
last mason
was thinking that there are more good gloves in the lootpool anyway than good trinks
so theyd bbe more likely to be replaced sooner
so id go with trink
undone jacinth
there aren’t that many good gloves tbh but having good gloves is less value than trinket
open monolith
99.8 parse on normal huntsman lole
chilly brook
Pog no more 184
open monolith
i just... didn't press ignore pain at all
undone jacinth
parsing on nm xd
chilly brook
Anyone use Eternal Skirmish?
undone jacinth
Yea
chilly brook
Worth over stats?
fossil summit
how much haste is considered decent on Prot Warrior?
undone jacinth
idk 1-1.5% dmg, crappy imo but I use same item for dps
chilly brook
how much haste is considered decent on Prot Warrior?
As much as you can get at the highest ilvl
I have like 14% without ITF
undone jacinth
Mueh’zala
Resolved an issue where Crushed Soul damage was higher than intended on Mythic Keystone difficulty
I knew it!
fossil summit
Okay, I have 7% and it keeps going down, because the only items I get give me a bunch of stats that I dont need and I keep losing haste
it's getting annoying because We'Re starting to get into M+8s and stuff and I'm still only ilvl 178
because the game refuses to give me anything at all whatsoever lmao
fossil summit
yeah I know I did 12 M=s in a row and dropped a total of 0 gear
M+s*
and I dont think PvP will be too fun as a Prot Warrior
issue is I created this toon too late because I created him a couple days ago and now I'm only raider io like 230, and ilvl 178
well, I think at ilvl 178 in +8s I'm gonna start fucking myself over
we just timed a +6 SoA but it was a bit rough to say the least
humble grove
Looking for some advice on how to improve tanking. I find that my damage is lacking and often I have issues keeping threat on swaps from my Co-tank. He is a Brewmaster Monk (his name is Monkchongo) and seems to just perform better at just about everything, I can admit that he is probably a better tank, but our DPS numbers are just not even close when our parses are in comparable % brackets.
Things that I did today after half of a normal CN to try and improve my DPS numbers: I realized most tanks were running into the fray, which seemed to give a nice 200 DPS boost or so. I was also under the impression we never wanted to use revenge unless it was free, I looked at some parses from top dudes and saw their revenge use was much higher, so I started to use revenge more often; this also seemed to help.
I am looking for advice on how to up my play, as our guild is starting to ramp up into heroic and an end goal of mythic raiding, I dont want to be the limiting factor. I don’t need to be the best tank out there, but I can’t help feel as if I am doing something wrong. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Amory: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/spirestone/plebto
Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/spirestone/plebto#
Co-tank Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/spirestone/monkchongo
chilly brook
is never surrender never an option for mythic+
no
chilly brook
Looking for some advice on how to improve tanking. I find that my damage is lack...
Raid is almost over I'll take a look in a few
humble grove
Raid is almost over I'll take a look in a few
👍 Ty
spare oracle
@humble grove should try to get an enchant on that chest
chilly brook
is never surrender never an option for mythic+
Never Surrender doesn't do anything to make Ignore Pain better, whereas indom both increases your health and also smooths the damage intake by restoring HP per rage spent
eternal musk
ok thanks @chilly brook 😄
astral crystal
one of 42 reported parses for thot king mythic 
just like uldir all over again
acoustic stratus
this might just be me talking, but I feel like fortified is tougher than tyrannical
at least on my health bar
astral crystal
youre getting hit more often from more sources
acoustic stratus
also i cant rely on pugs rortating stuns or screwing up interrupts
fickle dust
Reviewing weapon enchants before raid tomorrow -- currently have Ascended Vigor. Thoughts on Lightless Force vs Sinful Revelation vs Celestial Guidance?
chilly brook
this might just be me talking, but I feel like fortified is tougher than tyranni...
It's more punishing regularly but has a higher ceiling
trim bay
hey guys, just a random trinket question . i got a 220 slimy consumptive organ in my chest. a 216 armor kit and a 216 set of pants. is the organ any good? i currentylu have a 213 splintered heart and a 194 scale.
chilly brook
Eh
I mean if I'm being honest I would ho with armor kit over it but they're both lackluster trinkets
Do you have 216 or higher pants@trim bay ?
@humble grove just comparing your huntsman to mine looks like you're prioritizing thunderclap just a little too much
Same for shriekwing
Shield slam not only does more damage than pretty much everything else you can cast but its huge rage influx too so casting it everytime it's up is pretty important
waxen cradle
Griff is that Belf you ?
waxen cradle
The Belf photo of gear on a toon you posted earlier is that you ? I only ask because I am considering using PvP to try and gear up some of my alts which are also tanks and I wondering if for a tank it is worthwhile as usually tanks in PvP is a meme
chilly brook
It's me, I dont think it would be worth it if you were pvping as a tank other than prot paladin
But pvp is worth doing for gear if you can
But I mean as a warrior you have access to arms
So why not use it
Arms does stupid damage rn
In pvp that is
waxen cradle
Yeah I mean I would never even consider Arena because hard meme central, but maybe doing BG's or epic BG's "maybe" while I am on the fence. I just do not want to have to grind as hard to gear my alts to level of my main which is like 211 or so
chilly brook
@humble grove one last real quick comment, I dont revenge much when actively tanking but theres plenty of time when your cotank has the boss that you'd be better off just slapping revenge over IP
The only time I IP when not actively tanking is if theres a mechanic on me that's hitting hard or if I'm going to cap rage on my next cast
waxen cradle
Oh yeah I slap the shit out of bosses with revenge when off tanking. A nice small buff to use would be if they took the free revenge proc cap away. One can dream because they will not.
ionic pewter
Still new myself but I am definitely hitting IP way too much and its gimping my dps and shield block uptime. Working on it.
waxen cradle
Yeah the cap
chilly brook
Gotcha
waxen cradle
So it could proc indefinitely. It would not be game breaking as its not a insane distance or anything.
chilly brook
Still new myself but I am definitely hitting IP way too much and its gimping my ...
It's easy to get into a rythym and just hit things because you have the rage to do so but slow down and actively think about what's coming up and what you need the rage for
waxen cradle
Though we would swim in more rage sometimes than we need, and that might make that situation even worse
Already I still find myself just dumping rage into IP to not cap rage, and that feelsbadman
waxen cradle
True
sage cairn
pvp in prot is awesome btw
acoustic stratus
what? IP and shield block are horrible in pvp
chilly brook
90% increased rage gen
humble grove
<@220729647518842880> one last real quick comment, I dont revenge much when acti...
Thanks I’ll try to be more mindful of using IP correctly and unless TC. I use the Hekili add on and try to execute the rotation it suggests buy I will look into tweaking it. Thanks for the feedback!
waxen cradle
Yeah I have to say I do not know what I would do to really buff us rather than a damage done buff. We still feel considerably below VDH, and Pally's in that area and as we are a tank/dps class I feel we should always slap the hell out of things.
humble grove
Really? The other tank I run with advocates heavily for it and it seems to work for him, I’ll give it a shot without the add on and see what my DPS is like
chilly brook
Tbh the priority system is pretty simple
Covenant ability>ravager>dragon roar>shield slam>revenge with a free proc>thunderclap>revenge not to cap rage if safe
Also ravager and dragon Roar I only included in that in case you ever talent into it
And thunderclap moves up ahead of revenge if you need the rage but shield slam is on CD
Otherwise revenge does more damage
waxen cradle
Do you run DRoar over BVoice in M+ Griff ?
chilly brook
And has the same chance to proc shield slam reset
Nah
BV in m+ for sure
I just run DR in raid for pure single target damage
waxen cradle
My bad you were talking about 2 tanks playing together I should learn to scroll up and notice the subject of the conversation
waxen cradle
damn those are all heroic parses yeah ?
chilly brook
Ye
waxen cradle
damn nice
chilly brook
Council of blood onwards I play more defensive though
waxen cradle
Do you swap Leggos per fight to give better damage on fights that allow better AoE usage. I mean some have no adds practically, but where they do I considered swapping between TGV, and the Wall for the very few fights where there are adds anyway
chilly brook
I've just used The Wall exclusively
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sun king you'd probably get more mileage out of TGV
Idk why I have a 99 on that tbh
I dont actively pad
Oh shit
That was today
waxen cradle
I still have a hard time going AM, and dropping Bolster, but heroic it feels like it may just be better to run for more SW uses
chilly brook
I dont run bolster until Sludge
waxen cradle
It feels wrong to not run AM with the Wall leggo, but some fights it feels like not running bolster would be dumb. I mean for example having more SBlock uptime on fights where less of the fights damage is actual melee is a hard duh moment if you dont AM but yeah I gather you get what I mean about choosing when you want the more SWalls to help with more magic damage or when you want more SBlock uptime
chilly brook
And even then this week was my first time doing it in heroic
Sludgefist onwards are the only fights I'd say bolster is the move for prog
sweet summit
No?
waxen cradle
I only asked because in this expac they changed a lot of mechanics for CNathria to prevent Dwarf racials from cleansing all forms of quote/unquote bleeds
more or less if not listed as a direct bleed affect it would not cleanse it is what I mean
chilly brook
Dwarf still removes more than the pot
They just whitelisted some and blacklisted others
waxen cradle
They just seemed before SLands launched to want to make sure that certain types of bleed/physical damage over time effects could not be cleansed is what I mean
ocean yoke
what are some of the ones dwarf handles that phial doesnt? just curious
waxen cradle
Or maybe they did not change things so much as now maybe things are just simply well defined as bleeds or not
mellow patio
Most bleeds in the raid can be cleansed
waxen cradle
I mean I know they changed the one for Stone Legion Generals Mythic, but that is so the entire world did not ermagurd to dwarf to cheese that fight due to the wicked laceration and serrated swipes effect
So that one I get it, it is the penultimate fight
chilly brook
what are some of the ones dwarf handles that phial doesnt? just curious
Don't have a list off the top of my head but people have said that stoneform applies to some that phial doesn't
It could be entirely wrong
ocean yoke
i only know which ones phial definitely does, not a dwarf myself
ocean yoke
if you look good you take 1% less dmg
waxen cradle
I am a traitor I started out horde many many years ago
I played a lot of Orc, Troll, and Tauren, I loved my Warrior as I do now, and Belfs could not be Warriors
Also I loved me a troll rogue @_@ that mini hero though
ocean yoke
when i do make horde characters ive always like goblins for some reason
waxen cradle
Do you like to blow things up or play with fire, if so that makes so much sense
ocean yoke
i like fly forward and small guy
something fun about being a tiny dude and taking hits
waxen cradle
Kind of like why I like playing a dwarf Warrior, I never thought I would play a Dwarf, and then I race swapped to one and heroic leaped and it felt like a midget being fired out of a cannon and I loved it
ocean yoke
pretty much my thought when playing a goblin
open monolith
ayyy got a 96% on shriekwing heroic 😄
ocean yoke
i did some math and thats better than 95% of prot warriors
wicked lantern
Does Pawn work for prot warriors? Or does it purely look for the best stats for DPS? Talking about simmed stat weights.
sweet summit
is this worth it for Prot Warrior
Just equip the highest ilvl one
sweet summit
Does Pawn work for prot warriors? Or does it purely look for the best stats for ...
Just for dps
And pawn bad
wicked lantern
Just for dps
And pawn bad
Pawn bad?! Why?
sweet summit
Stat weights change very fast so even if you did get accurate stat weights from raidbots; changing one item will change the weights
So youre better off just siming top gear
Since youd have to sim new weights after every new item anyway
grizzled forge
Question any tech for rip soul as warrior tanking Barghast or just healers need to top off? With brew obviously I just celestial brew each one was curious if there’s anything good for warrior in that
On*
wicked lantern
I always resim after changing a piece and import the new weights into Pawn. Doesn’t that accomplish the same thing as siming gear? @sweet summit
I’ve only recently gotten into the siming/Pawn business so sorry for noob
inland silo
Thats the most "correct" way to use it but if you're gonna sim it anyway then why bother with pawn at all
Only thing pawn is good for is if you like to see green up arrows on your items
ocean bloom
pawn was great when simming was too hard to do for every piece of loot
but now that raid bots exists its functionally obsolete
thorny wing
Is Stone Legion Heraldry still worth, even if no one else have that trinket so you dont profit form stat bonus?
blazing sand
hey, is this pipedream macro behavior? intervene target of target if exists or focus if else? i'm having trouble sorting syntax
lusty marsh
Question any tech for rip soul as warrior tanking Barghast or just healers need ...
Spell reflect should be up for every rip
plus a IP for good measure. I like to use my shield wall on the first one blood scale on the second rip.
oak heart
I usually pool rage and full IB + spell reflect + cd (shield wall, last stand, pain suppression, monk bubble)
limpid burrow
not sure if i should take 23ilvl upgrade to legs or 42ilvl upgrade to ring
jagged pier
what does the new ring have on it compared to the old one?
outer solstice
Spell reflect should be up for every rip
@grizzled forge also with the wall + stalwart guardian and AM you can have SW back for the 3rd or at least the 4th
limpid burrow
226ilvl 65 crit/151 mastery or 184 rings with sockets
strong forum
226
jagged pier
well if the ring doesnt have haste on it its pointless go for the legs
strong forum
But take legs
outer solstice
yeah long run take the legs
strong forum
You wanna focus on getting armor pieces first because they offer mainstat
outer solstice
so how is twisting corridors as prot? I kinda wanna jsut go arms for it or do we have a cakewalk in there?
jagged pier
prot has always has always had an ez time in torghast
craggy harness
You might be fighting boredom for first 2 layers?
(i haven't tried 3 yet because of the time sink)
outer solstice
damn, the fixed the PvP quests... can't take them into the next week anymore
ewww just total crap in the chest
boots and cape from raid I already have, a useless normal belt, bracers with crit/versa and 2 PvP items,... gloves and ring, neither with haste,.... but I guess that'll be the gloves then
(220 PvP items)
craggy harness
I feel bad for two guildies who spent an unknown amount of time, and 3 hours of time to die on last level
outer solstice
imagine if you couldn't die at all
sweet surge
we'd have the Korean M+ guy but in Torghast
craggy harness
600k health, 600k IP, constant shield wall, last stand up so fast
not hard to imagine
outer solstice
oh well 2% haste lost for a 20 ilvl upgrade on gloves, I think that's fair 😛
jagged pier
got to love my 2 226 options where rings with no haste on them C:
outer solstice
classic 😛
but yeah getting the option to grab the same pieces you already got in the raid again isn't better either
golden pollen
Anyone tried vitality sacrifice yet?
sick sentinel
how do u get repair hamers
jagged pier
Anyone tried vitality sacrifice yet?
was good till the nerf in beta at least
jagged pier
how do u get repair hamers
you make them with engineering or buy them of AH
ionic fern
Think they are called "Auto-Hammer" somethingsomething
sick sentinel
do u need engi to use them
ionic fern
No.
jagged pier
another week no PV conduit from world boss
ionic fern
😦
Just reroll Venthyr so it's not a big thing if you don't get the Condemn conduit.
jagged pier
cinder nova
[Torghast General]: Prot is so bad right now.
It's fine. It WF'd and is a pretty competitive M+ tank because of SR and mitigation.
[Torghast General]: Nah, it sucks you're dumb.
- checks io, raid prog, PVP rating
- sub 300, none, none
Why do I do this to myself.
jagged pier
dont bother, getting involved with thoughs guys
cinder nova
It's just so hard to respect willfully stupid people.
cerulean quest
Shield is generally the most important item right
cinder nova
Shield big go zug.
jagged pier
not generally it is
jagged pier
then u go
cinder nova
Shield is one of the biggest survival ups.
jagged pier
the biggest
cerulean quest
ok nice
cinder nova
I dropped my 184 for a 220 a week back.
cerulean quest
thanks lads
cinder nova
Feels so good.
I'm just baffled that people can barely play the game at a difficult that requires any effort or brainpower and think they're knowledgeable arbiters of current spec states.
grand drum
My guild has stopped inviting to tank m+ on my warr because of that and has a prot pally instead
cinder nova
Show them +15 SR damage on Mordretha
jagged pier
My guild has stopped inviting to tank m+ on my warr because of that and has a pr...
may i suggest you find a new guild then?
cinder nova
Guilds that drop prot warriors are more or less smoothbrain Cro-Magnons because they only know how to ape streamer meta.
grand drum
I like the people, but they are misinformed a bit 😅
ionic fern
A lot of people are.
The number of "Wow...i thought Protection Warriors were bad" i get at the end of dungeons is stupid.
cinder nova
The entire foundation of their game balance understanding is informed largely by crappy subreddit memes and streamers too stupid to get how Prot warriors work.
And it shows.
ionic fern
I mean - they might not be stupid but they are playing a whole different game.
jagged pier
just link them nerfed
ionic fern
In general famous streamers are the ones pushing WF keys etc so obviously they will want to min-max it.
Their representation of the tank classes just comes from that PoV and their viewers interpretate it into their own content which is not WF keys.
cinder nova
I'd contest that notion as a general stake. I've seen Method sleep on warrior in Legion when it was basically the biggest swinging dick around. In their tank assessments they said they were unplayable.
And it might have something to do with their garbage-tier spec loadout and general lack of understanding.
ionic fern
Sure, those things also happen. 🤷
cinder nova
I think it's a lot more feelycraft than people think.
ionic fern
People also thought that leech was the way to go at some point so...
Think it was in MDI.
jagged pier
I miss legion levels of not needing a healer really that was fun
jagged pier
^^
jagged pier
my co tank kept getting knocked off on agg so i usually had to
cinder nova
TD aggro rips made tanking S P I C Y
strong forum
Especially now when you are reliant on the healer AND the DPS players.
We're actually regressing so much
strong forum
Kind of forgot about that part
edgy venture
new shield from vault lets goooo
strong forum
That in legion you could just play the game
jagged pier
why is everyone so fuking lucky with the vault but me this is so dumb
strong forum
Ah watch me
edgy venture
from 187 to 207
strong forum
(in 9hrs)
ionic fern
<- mastery/vers item inc.
strong forum
I'll surely get blade dancer trinket and a crit mastery ring from my 14s
edgy venture
Only my first vault was shit rest has been pretty decent
neat dirge
when i have Hakkar and anime field emiter
ionic fern
All of my vaults have been horrible.
😦
And my loot luck is baaad.
Still 204 cause gearing in m+. 💩
strong forum
I had 223 haste vers socket wrists week1, then 226 haste +X pants and 226 crit mastery helmet
So atleast I got armor pieces
cinder nova
I lucked out, then.
I went from a 184 to 220 shield first vault then a 220 helm for my 197 this week.
Fatty ups.
jagged pier
i go 220 crit mastery wep week1 and then thats it
jagged pier
guess its still better than waiting however many weeks the chances i have equate too though
cinder nova
Quit making it weird, Joro.
edgy venture
Moderate ups.
fossil summit
is it normal if sometimes I start a pull, and say my MM Hunter bursts the shit out of a mob and the mob switches aggro?
cinder nova
There ya go.
solar crown
<- this is what i got, and some other options which i already had
edgy venture
Slightly above average ups.
cinder nova
Leffa that's an omega neutronium oof.
ionic fern
is it normal if sometimes I start a pull, and say my MM Hunter bursts the shit o...
Can happen if you don't have your CD's.
cinder nova
F
edgy venture
Mediocre at best ups.
neat dirge
splintered heart is pretty shit overall right?
solar crown
Leffa that's an omega neutronium oof.
bliz is just having a piss with me
jagged pier
is it normal if sometimes I start a pull, and say my MM Hunter bursts the shit o...
can happen if you dont use cds or the hunter doesnt md you
ionic fern
You can use AoE taunt + double ST taunts.
edgy venture
I've been running Splintered Heart since the raid came out. never goten anything better x(
ionic fern
And jeah, MD.
jagged pier
<:literallytrash:752422340150820914> <- this is what i got, and some other opti...
thats an F if ive ever seen one
strong forum
is it normal if sometimes I start a pull, and say my MM Hunter bursts the shit o...
Tell him to MD you, how can a hunter ever take aggro????
strong forum
Yell at them then
ionic fern
Hunters also don't know they have lust/soothe.
strong forum
Like... That's inting
strong forum
Actually sad
fossil summit
no because sooner we had a mage that did so much fucking damage it starting getting aggro and a thunder clap+revenge wasnt enough to get it back, I had to use taunts and spear of bastion and everything to get aggro back
jagged pier
i had a bm hunter that didnt know he had a stun till the end of legion
ionic fern
You should be using Spear mostly on CD anyways.
jagged pier
well you should be using spear on pull anyway
fossil summit
like almost 20K DPS in a huge pull
strong forum
i had a bm hunter that didnt know he had a stun till the end of legion
20k ain't that much tbf
ionic fern
like almost 20K DPS in a huge pull
Spear/Ravager/Avatar/BV.
jagged pier
<:weird:718676218500874320>
yer that was my face, I was like use intimation. legit asked what that was 
ionic fern
They are all on a fairly short CD.
fossil summit
way higher than most people I get for sure,. I tend to outdmg my DPSs in M+s
neat dirge
@strong forum is Splintered heart any good? i have 206 ilvl hakkar trinket / anima field emiter
fossil summit
especially if I Spear of Bastion + Light's Judgement
jagged pier
<@!192743144276623360> is Splintered heart any good? i have 206 ilvl hakkar trin...
not better than them imo
obsidian wraith
hey are you guys preferring into the fray or unstopable force?
ionic fern
Unless you missed some stragglers.
neat dirge
fair enough
fossil summit
nah usually spear alone is enough to get aggro back on anything
ionic fern
hey are you guys preferring into the fray or unstopable force?
Ravager.
For m+ atleast.
ItF for raid in most encounters.
jagged pier
hey are you guys preferring into the fray or unstopable force?
UF is dead talent never run it
neat dirge
can u get loot from Sire in vault? if u kill him?
jagged pier
can u get loot from Sire in vault? if u kill him?
yep
obsidian wraith
hmmm ive never thought of ravager as a tank ill test it out
neat dirge
3 weeks no trinket from heroic sire
strong forum
<@!192743144276623360> is Splintered heart any good? i have 206 ilvl hakkar trin...
It's pretty good for higher stuff, the CD of it resets if you actually die.
neat dirge
wtf
jagged pier
have helm and ring from him thanks to vault
strong forum
In the current meta pretty much everybody abuses cheat death anything
Cuz you can die in the blink of an eye
Pretty stupid
neat dirge
^lowkey thinkin bout that
ionic fern
Wasn't he also using War Machine?
strong forum
!!1!
neat dirge
cant get ganked while using Leaper
ionic fern
Ngl, it feels like a Torghast build.
jagged pier
neat dirge
lowkey want leaper for movement in the maw
jagged pier
got max rank with vanari today never going back there
neat dirge
oh infinite torghast is up?
strong forum
I'm on the last 21k
But haven't been in maw in a week
Only did the weekly stuff and then peaced
ionic fern
I just want to log on and play m+, please blizzard. 😦
edgy venture
600 away from 7k / Tentative
jagged pier
I just want to get a shield blizz 😦
jagged pier
i mean i pvp'd so i have 213
jagged pier
I learnt to suck it up last tier for the essences and the transmog this time around is pretty pog, so im happy to do it till 1800
but cant get out of 1600-1700 now as i dont have a good wep
fallow mortar
I just want to log on and play m+, please blizzard. 😦
to be fair, you don't have to do the maw, it is torghast for the legendaries
jagged pier
yer but the maw makes torghast easier and sockets
fallow mortar
well, not many do
jagged pier
im hoping twisting corridors make its better its too ez and boring right now
fallow mortar
yer but the maw makes torghast easier and sockets
yes, but it is not needed. sure it makes content easier, but you could live without doing it
jagged pier
yes, but it is not *needed*. sure it makes content easier, but you could live wi...
I cant
ionic fern
I also diddn't get any sockets in BfA from the rep
.Cause i never made the rep.
So.. 🤷
fallow mortar
I shall pour one out for you Jakey
jagged pier
I dunno just feel like if im not doing stuff to get my char as good as possible im letting the team down
even though most of my team dont do stuff like that XD
fallow mortar
ahhhh so it is a personal thing, gotcha
jagged pier
yus
fallow mortar
I was scared your guild was forcing you to do it 😂
jagged pier
i dont get mad at anyone for not doing it, its just somthing i have to do
I mean my guilds letting me play prot they dont give a shit
fallow mortar
oof
jagged pier
I have a feeling there might be a push to get ppl some gear though soon
like we were .5% off pushing sun king
to phase 2
fallow mortar
mythic I take it?
jagged pier
yer
lavish oracle
I just can't find a damn 2 hander to save my life for pvp
strong forum
Like 70% of my guild is sub 210
jagged pier
but like me and the other tank our the highest ilvl in the team atm XD
yer same Nome
fallow mortar
I just can't find a damn 2 hander to save my life for pvp
2hander for prot? O.o
jagged pier
2hander for prot? O.o
need one for pvp of course
fallow mortar
I do, it is terrible, but I love it
sweet summit
Play arms, free rating
jagged pier
doesnt appear to be for me, but i am shit tbh
like 1800 is the max i could ever get too and im still 100 off that XD
lavish oracle
Would a 171 weapon get me to 1800?
fallow mortar
If you believe hard enough
jagged pier
just get the honour wep and upgrade to 184 that can get you to 1700 at least
it did for me
its good stats as well haste vers
fallow mortar
Didn't the PvP lvl go up this week?
jagged pier
maybe 🤷,
fallow mortar
Damnit now I have to check
jagged pier
will be for the honor gear though not conquest
fallow mortar
22 is two weeks. We are at 18 now right?
limpid burrow
21 this week
jagged pier
^^
strong forum
I got 1800 with 174 weapon as arms
fallow mortar
Ah
outer solstice
btw you can buy a 184 weapon for honor
outer solstice
no reason to be in the arena with anything below
chilly brook
10/10 don't regret being a winter queen simp
outer solstice
yeah but I'm capped again xD like all the time
strong forum
So, why invest like 8hrs in bgs
outer solstice
8 hours?
fallow mortar
Stop winning then
outer solstice
just do the bonus quests 😛
btw fun thing, first time in years ally don't have against overwhelming odds
xD
strong forum
Took me 4hrs with bonus quest and merc mode for 4.5k honor
fallow mortar
O.o
strong forum
Bgs are aids
fallow mortar
Took me 4-5hours to get 11k O.o
fallow mortar
My time could be warped, but ya winning the bgs helped
astral orbit
Hi, does anyone have an efficient route for this week Halls of Atonement they could share here?
fallow mortar
Rolled in with a group of 5 and we controlled the feild
fallow mortar
Wasn't even try Harding though
edgy venture
playing with friends =/= tryharding 🤔
chilly brook
Fr didn't think I'd like Ardenweald as much as I do but its so good
outer solstice
btw the arena skirmish event can be completed in normal arenas as well
chilly brook
Nom teach me how to not be ass at arena
outer solstice
2000 free honor
strong forum
There aren't options for conquest gear, if youre capping conquest, you get 4k+ honor for just doing that
outer solstice
@chilly brook def stance and survive
strong forum
Unhinged + spear + Sweeping strikes + avatar + sharpen blade + bladestorm
Ez triple kill
outer solstice
don't forget spellreflect and turn off def stance before bursting
also follow with stormbolt once spear runs out
strong forum
You never sit def stance unless you get tunneled
jagged pier
you can do it through defensive stance now
but arenas atm are basically who can kill in burst first
strong forum
Yes it's amazing
chilly brook
tf is unhinged?
jagged pier
arms leggo
strong forum
Legendary
jagged pier
MS twice in bladestorm
strong forum
And the MS gets cleaved by Sweeping strikes
jagged pier
^^
strong forum
So 4 MS :)
lavish oracle
Oh right, I was sitting here wondering what to do with all my extra soul ash
lavish oracle
Arms leggo
jagged pier
overpower twice with sharpen blade can also kill someone with a crit
outer solstice
what do you guys play? ret holy arms?
jagged pier
resto druid arms atm
strong forum
Arms firemage rsham
And arms rsham
outer solstice
2s takes soooo much longer 😛
strong forum
I prefer 2s over 3s
jagged pier
its pretty good the druid runs at 160 movement speed so i just sit healer while he kites
outer solstice
against druis death sentence is fun
once they are low theyx start running
but you charge charge charge
jagged pier
not a good druid though
strong forum
If a druid doesn't run 24/7
lavish oracle
I'll probably end up running with my M+ group so like hpal/arms/fire or hpal/arms/sub
strong forum
He's weird
outer solstice
well DPS druids
strong forum
Or rather, if the druid doesn't kill you back
outer solstice
not resto obviously
jagged pier
and you dont usually run death sentence probably the worst talent for arena tbh
outer solstice
yeah I only put it on for druids
outer solstice
it helps secure kills
strong forum
So mages can't peace the fuck out
chilly brook
deleted by a marksman hunter feelsbadman
jagged pier
just disarm
strong forum
Disarm
outer solstice
yeah unless you face spellcleave always disarm
chilly brook
too smart 5 me
jagged pier
duels good, bladestorm ones pretty much much mandartory tbh
cause of leggo
duels actually so strong against a monk that just sits your healer
twilit siren
Is there any Haste cap for prot warriors?
jagged pier
160%
as you can disarm stun fear and duel the monk they do no damage to you or healer
chilly brook
<literally haven't pvp'd since WoD
cinder nova
Yo lemme just get in here
Can I say whoever is responsible for the fantastic facial and lip work in these new cutscenes deserves a huge raise.
So much more nuanced emotion.
outer solstice
chilly brook
lip sync is bad imo
fringe marten
From ..Pelagos? My emo boy
Pelagos is the actual good soul bind..but Kleia is the warrior...? With the heal proc instead of mastery..? I don't get blueman group at all.
Anyone get a sexy from the vault?
cerulean quest
216 shield 🙂 replacing the 200 pvp one
chilly brook
nice
humble pebble
would need your help. which upgrade is the better mix between dmg and survivablity?
Would go for the weap, from my point of view. so i wont have to go for suboptimal secondary stats on shoulder. BUt shoulder has more Str and HP
median badge
urgh I really need to fins an arena bro to go 1400
jagged pier
theres a 220 shield in that picture
humble pebble
strong forum
Take shield
jagged pier
^^
humble pebble
the shield is less of an upgrade, i think
strong forum
It's the biggest upgrade
jagged pier
its not
strong forum
It's the most important slot
jagged pier
it is the biggest upgrade you can get only piece with block on it
undone jacinth
that was a close one
humble pebble
but it has suboptimal stats and no mainstats more?
strong forum
It has block value
jagged pier
it doesnt matter block is stronger
the more block you have the more damage you block
humble pebble
blocking is that big? wow. i knew that shield was the most important item, but not with "7ilvl vs 20ilvl" on the other big ones
strong forum
It's bigger than anything else
outer solstice
regarding that @strong forum should I stick with the 213 hc shield with haste or grab a 220 conquest one? (stuck with a 184 weapon that I want to conquest though)
outer solstice
even if that means delaying the weapon?
strong forum
Si
humble pebble
seems like my question helped out another guy too. thats nice 🙂
appreciate your help!
zealous saddle
I guess getting some more ilvl with the ring is the better option here?
jagged pier
honestly nither of thoughs are good options
jagged pier
^^
strong forum
And Ring is, well ring
zealous saddle
yeah, i keep getting rings and trinekts...
strong forum
F
sick sentinel
So been playing protwar in m0 and m+ 2-4 last week. Coming from a monk tank, I was underwhelmed, most notably by the fact that healers are so used to other tanks healing themselves, that the warrior not being able to is an added burden in this world of constant AoE DMG where the healer is already busy enough.
Is it me or does warrior feels at odds amongst other tanks ?
jagged pier
you might be playing wrong, I feel perfectly fine playing it
as we dont heal ourselves all you have to play 100% preemptive, alot of new prots for get that
if you play warrior correctly you take very little damage
can I ask what you were doing when playing. / talents and stuff etc?
frail wyvern
first good piece from the vault
jagged pier
not bad
undone jacinth
gz
sweet summit
Yooge
outer solstice
and the more your raid gets, the better
quick elk
what weapons enchant are you guys using? we dont do much self healing so presuming the lightless force?
jagged pier
I use lightless
quick elk
yeah and now i think about there wont be weeks where necrotic make the healing obsolete.
chilly brook
So been playing protwar in m0 and m+ 2-4 last week. Coming from a monk tank, I w...
Idk dude seems fine to me
lofty widget
how is this trinket in m+? sitting on 184 trinkets so would very much like the replace them
jagged pier
its aight
twilit siren
hello, can someone help me? thats my simc from the addon, copy paste it and tell me what I have to improve on my gear. https://pastebin.com/Wf9MWgr0
ionic fern
So been playing protwar in m0 and m+ 2-4 last week. Coming from a monk tank, I w...
The difference between a good and a bad Protection Warrior is day and night. It's a lot more "visible" than some other tanks specs. We have to be proactive with our mitigation/damage smoothing not reactive and if we mess it up it shows.
jagged pier
hello, can someone help me? thats my simc from the addon, copy paste it and tell...
just put it into raidbots it will do it for you
chilly brook
Ended that dungeon at 3.8k overall btw
twilit siren
raidbots doing it for DPS
chilly brook
straight nuts
chilly brook
raidbots doing it for DPS
you can't sim for survival
jagged pier
Ended that dungeon at 3.8k overall btw
what lvl? were you only spamming rev?
twilit siren
you can't sim for survival
yes but you can see my trinkets and rings, and help me out 😛
outer solstice
ravager helps a lot on DPS
jagged pier
yes but you can see my trinkets and rings, and help me out 😛
I mean unless you have blood scale or sire trinket just run dps trinkets, and get as much haste as possible for suvivability there isnt much else to say
95% of suvivability comes from play not stats or trinkets
probably more
candid igloo
Im having the same issues coming from Brewmaster. And the biggest issue is that prot is all proactive mitigation and BrM is almost all reactive. Its just two completely different play styles. @sick sentinel
twilit siren
I mean unless you have blood scale or sire trinket just run dps trinkets, and ge...
I have both blood scale and sire trinket. I have the Stone Legion tringket 220 also
jagged pier
i mean brew inst you just dont need to think with your mitigation as its always up
jagged pier
I have both blood scale and sire trinket. I have the Stone Legion tringket 220 a...
so u run legion tinrket and one of the other 2
you dont want 2 on use
twilit siren
so u run legion tinrket and one of the other 2
lot of people run blood scale instaid of sire
steady fiber
Hi guys, was opening great vault and got a question what is better to chose :S
outer solstice
Hi guys, was opening great vault and got a question what is better to chose :S
show us your options
twilit siren
for raid i would say sire is better shorter cd, but it does no damage
thanks I'll try it
outer solstice
what's your PvP rating?
steady fiber
it's low 1400
jagged pier
thanks I'll try it
if your struggling with taking to much damage its honestly probably play sorry to say stats and trinkets wont help that much
steady fiber
was trying to push but idk i get whiped in there
outer solstice
oh well then the chest probably not worth it
proven herald
does anyone know what happens when you have both gladiator and apsirant versions of the pvp trinket equipped? I am talking about the one with the str proc on hit.
chilly brook
Defensively I'd say Denathrus' trinket is better
1m CD opens up a lot of coverage for gaps
outer solstice
@proven herald they are just independent
jagged pier
was trying to push but idk i get whiped in there
belt or trinket depending on what belt or tinrket you have
outer solstice
soy eah you can have a double procc @proven herald
steady fiber
i have 216 crit vers
proven herald
alright thank you Dr
steady fiber
this one is hast vers 220
jagged pier
this one is hast vers 220
and your trinkets?
steady fiber
scale 184 ilvl and 200 ilvl anima haste proc trinket
jagged pier
belt then
steady fiber
rings 203 haste vers / 200 vers mastery
chilly brook
It's like 45 DPS higher but still higher 😛
steady fiber
Btw is the Denathrius trinket better then scale? and same question goes for general vers trinket (if swap from haste proc trink)
jagged pier
rings 203 haste vers / 200 vers mastery
well ither vers mastery ring or belt, like the rings arnt good they dont have haste. the trinket is pretty good but you have good trinkets. and the belt is an ilvl upgrade with good stats its a tough choice
steady fiber
well yea im now sitting and idk what to chose Best 😄
chilly brook
Btw is the Denathrius trinket better then scale? and same question goes for gene...
Defensively yes imho
jagged pier
Btw is the Denathrius trinket better then scale? and same question goes for gene...
form a defensive stand point sire trinket is better and the vers trinket only gets good if more than one person in your group as it as well
steady fiber
Hmm, so vers trinket is then i guess more for raiding related
jagged pier
I would choose ring or belt tbh
chilly brook
Anyone
jagged pier
anyone
steady fiber
i gues dps have better things to pick in terms for trinkets
jagged pier
not if its stacked with other people
steady fiber
any cap ?
chilly brook
I think 5?
steady fiber
or no cap can get full raid with it 😄
chilly brook
It's 113 vers if you have everyone using it at a heroic level
Which is a lot of vers tbh
steady fiber
well yea
But scale / haste proc is not so bad to :/
i guess i should consider upgrading scale to denathrius and mby haste proc to generals (idk on that)
undone jacinth
<@!132546192105144320> Eternal Stats sims higher
ofc it does lol it does dmg?
jagged pier
It's 113 vers if you have everyone using it at a heroic level
yer but theres like that much vers on that ring XD
in his vault as well
and he has a 200 ilvl vers mastery ring
chilly brook
ofc it does lol it does dmg?
Eternal Stats is the +30 strength
It doesn't do any damage 😛
steady fiber
so guys voting for a belt right ? 😄
jagged pier
so guys voting for a belt right ? 😄
that or the ring
undone jacinth
sounds like a bug tbh but interesting
woven kiln
this power is a trap!
jagged pier
did you not see the reduced health bit XD
jagged pier
F
buoyant patrol
How is twisting corridor going for people who have done it?
chilly brook
RIP
jagged pier
How is twisting corridor going for people who have done it?
i reckon its gunna be ez but long
buoyant patrol
Yeah my thoughts too but I heard some people wipe on last floor boss
But from other spec
jagged pier
well if they are getting to last floor boss it cant be that hard
meager wigeon
Does Simc value mastery incredibly highly for tanks?
meager wigeon
Yeah it's suggesting I swap out my 5% haste ring for a high vers/low mastery ring.
Which just seemed odd.
Good to know, thank you.
strong forum
It's just long the first time you do it
But you only do it once, ever
Which is kinda weird
jagged pier
and you get all for doing 144?
jagged pier
i mean ill do it this weekend so i dont need to think of it again
but its m+ push week
strong forum
Clear all layers once, and you got all rewards, can ignore until next patch
torn echo
Hey all,
I've read the primary stat trumps secondary stats in shadowlands, but is it worth swapping 72 haste for +13 item level?
torn echo
got new pants on the vault
jagged pier
then yes
torn echo
wondering if I should pick them
chilly brook
nice but this also feels wrong
jagged pier
yer it feels wrong but so good that power
torn echo
Gotcha, gotta go with legs then. Thanks!
clear ruin
literally was immortal on my twisting fates this morning.
100% dmg mitigation at a 90% uptime
was crazy awesome
open monolith
chilly brook
Actually gonna be clapping this run
jagged pier
well if sock can do it it must be ez C:
chilly brook
Floor 5 already have execute power, that strength buff and the 200% increased damage on charge
Literal ez mode
worn bear
how long’d that take you?
chilly brook
uhhh
open monolith
I duoed it with a hunter
worn bear
jesus christ
wheat sleet
how big of a difference is there between ranks of legendaries?
jagged pier
not a big amount the extra stats are nice, but you want the leggos for the effect not the ilvl
wheat sleet
yeah im just trying to figure out how to budget my soul ash atm
is the stat scaling linear?
undone jacinth
well the pieces are 190 210 225 235 so...
wheat sleet
im relatively new to retail, started playing seriously with shadowlands so I have no idea how ilvl impacts stats other than that the number goes up
undone jacinth
20 ilvls is worth twice as much as 10 ilvls
jagged pier
wild violet
i might be blind but we watn to craft the wall leggo in the shoulder slot right?
and thunderlords in boots
jagged pier
yep
undone jacinth
yeah
jagged pier
vers or crit
wild violet
verse i'm guessing
undone jacinth
mastery baby
wild violet
yea i'm thinking verse
i've already got a decent amount of it
so may just be worth getting more
chilly brook
Fuck it I'll take the 30% increase to mastery with 25% less healing
undone jacinth
Well I mean it's 45 DPS out of a 3,300dps sim
ur single target sim is 3.3k?
chilly brook
yes
undone jacinth
link?
chilly brook
resimming will link soon
undone jacinth
darkees sim is 3.3k at 224 ilvl
he’s using better trinkets but isn’t using itf or spear conduit
that seems kinda crazy though
chilly brook
fuckin beautiful
jagged pier
well that quick sim inst that acurate like it has windfury in there i dont have a windfury in my raid team
jagged pier
true but its still less that it shows
strong forum
Let's see what my scuffed quick sim will end up at
With kleia and defensive trinkets
chilly brook
the difference seems bizarre
like the difference between Lightee and ours?
