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strong forum
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so youre better of playing Ashen Juggernaut instead

undone jacinth
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ah yeah true think I was getting them mixed up

shrewd geode
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Ok so use Unnerving and next week add SG and then for my finesse conduit whats a good choice?

chilly brook
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Nvm we ain't finding any logs of punish on this fight 100% use devastator

strong forum
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rallying cry for finesse

outer solstice
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@shrewd geode I guess the increased rally ?

undone jacinth
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ofc they do

shrewd geode
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ok šŸ˜„

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sweet

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ty guys!

strong forum
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Kungen tried Punish in raid!

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he surely knows best!

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hes the best tank in the world afterall!

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/s

undone jacinth
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did u see the kungen portals clip

strong forum
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ofc i did

undone jacinth
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amazing

strong forum
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i made the clip where he said that people were good in classic

undone jacinth
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haha

chilly brook
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I died to that on Tuesday

open monolith
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died to what

strong forum
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xymox

undone jacinth
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some guys in my raid kept saying it’s not possible to out run the pull

chilly brook
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The axe thing

open monolith
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imagine dying to xymox

shrewd geode
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Is ignore pain for magical and Shield block for physical?

chilly brook
open monolith
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Ignore pain is for everything

undone jacinth
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I didn’t say anything to them because it meant I could out dps them while they all thought you couldn’t run haha

open monolith
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shield block is for physical

shrewd geode
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ohhh ok

undone jacinth
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I mean almost everyone has a movement cd

strong forum
chilly brook
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About 3s in you're getting pulled really hard

open monolith
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i usually just take the portal on Xymox because I like to save leap for glyph

strong forum
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seems like you didnt read those yet, and theyre a good starting point

undone jacinth
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they out ran it on mythic with warlocks and shit

chilly brook
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Fight it until you cant then let it happen

undone jacinth
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it’s not a big issue

open monolith
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r/withoutcontext

undone jacinth
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u can do it with charge

open monolith
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I got 4/10 Heroic this week for my first time going into heroic. the group that I was "trying out for" was like... twitch chat IRL. it was the most annoying and obnoxious 3 hours of my life. I will not be going back

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but at least I got some kills 😮

chilly brook
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Not if you're actively tanking and boss follows you

undone jacinth
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u get sucked faster than him I think but yeah I wasn’t tanking

lusty marsh
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What portal clip

open monolith
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Dude nome, it was so bad.

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like, I get verbalizing twitch memes ironically

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these guys weren't being ironic about it

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constantly calling each other retarded, fat nerds, just.... so mean

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It was not enjoyable.

chilly brook
strong forum
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sounds exactly like my guild

undone jacinth
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what’s worse though, that or talking about covid and babies for 3 hours

outer solstice
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you know you're at home when /1 is better than /i

open monolith
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and like, most of the group was green and gray parsing while I was pulling out medium-sized-dick-purples

signal plover
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imagine toxic but goin 4/10 heroic

open monolith
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there's a happy medium dolphin.

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I prefer a group of people who are like... just chill, ya know?

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no yelling into the mic

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not desperately trying with every available fiber of their being to be so fucking hilarious

undone jacinth
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yeah I’m still waiting to find that group 20 guilds later lol

open monolith
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right?

lusty marsh
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My guild had a chill mid raid break competition where we stacked stackable toys.

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Got up to 12 acrobatic stewards.

open monolith
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I want a guild that like.... are in the same spot in life as I am.... or like...
idk this is going to be the mantra I want to play with:
"If you wouldn't talk this way to your mother or father, don't talk this way during the raid"

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clearly I'm just a boomer

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and I hate zoomers.

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that's what it is

strong forum
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boomer brain

open monolith
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pretty much.

undone jacinth
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we are mostly boomers but I don’t find it fun at all

open monolith
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at least 6 times during the raid some kid kept yelling "TYPE 1 IN CHAT IF YOU THINK THE GUY TALKING IS A FAT SWEATY NECK BEARD VIRGIN HAHAHAHAHAHA"

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and like... people thought it was funny

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I literally died inside.

outer solstice
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so I see a lot of ppl play with itf instead of ravager in raids, what's the reason there anyone care to discuss that? is the difference in SB downtime so noticeable?

chilly brook
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I actually hated my guild raid group this xpac not because of their personality (although some of them I'd prefer weren't the way they were) but because heroic felt like mythic prog. Then we paired down to 20 this week and it was so easy like smh

strong forum
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more damage

outer solstice
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@open monolith just put a 1

strong forum
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ITF is just more ST dmg

outer solstice
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oh ok xD ty

open monolith
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I got a few 90+ parses on my kills using ravager

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because... I forgot to change my build

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LOL

strong forum
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i got my 100 playing ravager

open monolith
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atta boy

strong forum
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cuz i always forget

open monolith
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I used bolster on Huntsman because I'm a moron

outer solstice
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what you guys do for padding? just ignore IP and fully revenge the sh*t out of everything?

open monolith
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hell yeah

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fuck IP, gotta PAD THEM NUMBERS BRO

strong forum
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idk i just do my rotation

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but ive noticed for mythic, this time around, i cant use SB much for damage

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😦

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i have to sit on a bit more rage

undone jacinth
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I did 3 bosses yesterday on my feral specced as dreamweaver with tank conduits then one pull I died and the wild seed popped and it dawned on me

strong forum
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than just pump into damage

open monolith
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honestly though, in raid, nothing hits tanks hard enough to need a lot of ignore pain other than Inerva Darkvein's DoT

strong forum
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not on HC no

open monolith
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right

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I'm not a mythic boi

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no time for that

outer solstice
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well only tanked shriekwing on M

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and felt way less dmg thank sludge

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hc

open monolith
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shriekwing is a meme

undone jacinth
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the Nicklaus add on council actually hits very hard

outer solstice
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yeah we did 3 heals on shriek xD

undone jacinth
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it meleees for up to like 150k

open monolith
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I've never kept Nikklaus alive long enough to see it

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I always do SNF for council

outer solstice
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@undone jacinth we're too retarded we kill niklaus first xD

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on hc

strong forum
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we did FNS, SFN but SNF seems easiest

open monolith
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I think Stavros first is best for retarded groups

outer solstice
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yeah frieda last seems not that bad of a deal

strong forum
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FNS week 1 was tough ngl

undone jacinth
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a guy came in here yesterday with a log where they kept Nicklaus add alive for 2min and it was meleeing the tanks for 70k after reductions lmao

outer solstice
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oh we can dance,... but switching to adds ? ewwwww

open monolith
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just make the ranged switch to adds

outer solstice
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well melees can't even pad...

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it get's calculated out

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onyl we can pad

strong forum
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priority add damage

outer solstice
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or just kill "add guys" first xD

shrewd geode
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Does raider io have anything comparable as to a dps having bronze silver gold damage?

outer solstice
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nah

shrewd geode
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for tanks

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ok awesome

undone jacinth
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u just get rating

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that’s all that matters

strong forum
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bronze silver gold... isnt that testing grounds from several expansions ago

outer solstice
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the proving grounds is BS anyway xD

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yeah it's from MOP

undone jacinth
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cool concept tbh

outer solstice
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yeah it was fun ^^

strong forum
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imagine

undone jacinth
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lead to mage tower I guess

strong forum
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having an ingame rating system

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for m+

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ykno

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:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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too hard i guess

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you can do it for that minigame

outer solstice
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well would be nice to at least see the highest key they did on that dungeon

strong forum
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but not for m+

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fucking

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why

undone jacinth
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they don’t wanna infringe on add ons space too much

strong forum
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its their game

undone jacinth
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and ratings create toxicity

strong forum
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so why can you do keys higher than 15

undone jacinth
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yeah but they’ve said they don’t want add on devs to feel redundant

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like how dbm still isn’t a core part of the game

outer solstice
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non-ratings create toxicity though

strong forum
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they change nothing

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except remove rewards and goals

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from the game

fierce tendon
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shiny io score

strong forum
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nothing more

undone jacinth
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I’m just saying that seems to be their logic from what I’ve read

strong forum
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its dumb

outer solstice
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well it can at least give you a floor

undone jacinth
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they try to avoid like ways of judging other players

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of controlling etc

outer solstice
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I think r.io is bad for ceiling

strong forum
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then they shouldnt implement competetive scenes/content

outer solstice
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but for a floor it's helpful

strong forum
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arena functions perfectly well

undone jacinth
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they don’t

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they tried to avoid all that stuff

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they do now ofc, should have said clearer

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but they try and draw a line like mdi and awc are different from live

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and they’ve said they don’t want race to worldl first to become a competition they endorse either

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it’s a ā€˜community event’

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it all changes when they think they can make money though I guess

strong forum
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The reason why there's no official rwf event is because its unhealthy

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And it has to be regulated and fair

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And thats not what rwf is about

fierce tendon
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I think its fine to have competitive stuff like that, its just the community perception behind io and rating and pushing thats toxic imo, but thata the same elitist attitude wow players have had forever

strong forum
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Rwf is using absolutely everything you can to clear the raid, and a regulated event can't host that

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As its against every health code

undone jacinth
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tbh having Rio avoids toxicity in some cases because you can avoid people who are wildly different rating to u

outer solstice
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^

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first 2 weeks of M+ were literal hell

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with pugs

shrewd geode
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Do a lot of you guys use weakauras?

outer solstice
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yes yes many many WA

undone jacinth
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everyone does or should

shrewd geode
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Oh

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lol

undone jacinth
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they are the best tool in WoW

shrewd geode
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So when you get one is there a way to put buttons for the abilities on it to show? like how bartender does it?

outer solstice
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e.g. ignore pain tracker to see the value

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hmm clickable WAs,.... I don't use any but they are out there

open monolith
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I don't believe weak auras shows your keybind

fierce tendon
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yeah you can create a basic weakaura, you basically choose an icon and set when it triggers, it makes it pretty simple

lusty marsh
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Weak auras changed my life

open monolith
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but like.. muscle memory and all that

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eventually you'll just have that all memorized

outer solstice
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even my HP and rage bar are WAs

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xD

open monolith
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like, if you were to ask me right now "what is Shift 4" I would say "I have no idea"

outer solstice
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pummel

open monolith
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but if I were playing, I would press it insitcitvely

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Z is pummel

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you heathen

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Z is always interrupt

outer solstice
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REEEEEEE

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shift + 4 is interrupt

fierce tendon
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Alt 3 pummel

open monolith
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how dare you not use my system that I've been using for years

outer solstice
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always

lusty marsh
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I believe Shift 4 is battleshout for me

open monolith
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actually I do know what Shift 4 is

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it's heroic throw

fierce tendon
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S1-4 are defensive for me

lusty marsh
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Heroic throw is m3 for me

sonic crown
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zxc defensives

undone jacinth
outer solstice
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ty

open monolith
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X is berserk

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C is... character panel

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:d

outer solstice
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I also play gnome @undone jacinth

undone jacinth
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gnomes are in my good books

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I play panda and people spit on me

open monolith
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I play a troll lady

open monolith
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people like my mog, I get complements.

strong forum
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dwarf

undone jacinth
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bent over troll?

outer solstice
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@fierce tendon NF gnome Aftershock

strong forum
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everything else is wrong

open monolith
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female troll

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females stand up straight

undone jacinth
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yeah

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and run like they have a disability

fierce tendon
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Ztrolls stand up str8 too yep

open monolith
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Female everything, except Kul'tiran

lusty marsh
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Z isavatar xcv are main mit, second mit, demo shout.

open monolith
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KT only race I won't play a female for

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maybe... maybe dwarf

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and orc..

outer solstice
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all my shifts are off GCD xD that's why pummel fits in šŸ˜›

open monolith
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everything else female

undone jacinth
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orc females are hench

lusty marsh
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Control v = darkflight xD

open monolith
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let's see...

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I think F is shield block

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Q is ignore pain

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E is execute

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obviously

fierce tendon
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whats ur guys ' key bound to tho

open monolith
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heroic leap

lusty marsh
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Push to talk

open monolith
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pffft, push to talk? what year is this

fierce tendon
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ptt lol

open monolith
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get good voice activation, nerd

lusty marsh
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It's default

undone jacinth
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I get tilted by people with voice activated

lusty marsh
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I don't use it

outer solstice
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ptt is helpful, I only use voice activation in M+

undone jacinth
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if I hear someone burp I will ban them from discord immediately

open monolith
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I used good voice activation

lusty marsh
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Also, ptt is king

outer solstice
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for raid actually use TS whispers a lot so I have 4 different ptt keys

open monolith
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I used to be all ptt, but now can't go back

lusty marsh
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Because you can't count on everyone having good voice

outer solstice
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depending on who I want to talk to

fierce tendon
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With discords sound suppression thing it actually helps a ton, I tell everyone who clicky clacks to use it or gtfo

outer solstice
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(yes we raid on TS)

undone jacinth
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my mate tried to go push to talk because he has some horrendous habits and roommates but he literally never pressed it

lusty marsh
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I voice activate most of the time but raid discord channel is forced ptt

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Too many dogs

open monolith
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100% of people who use mechanical keyboards with voice activation are degens

outer solstice
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lol

strong forum
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degen here

fierce tendon
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Lmfao

strong forum
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šŸ‘

open monolith
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also, hot take, mechanical keyboards are stupid and a waste of money

outer solstice
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degen here

open monolith
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I've literally never had an issue with a normal keyboard

outer solstice
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@open monolith let me show you my MX-red silent switches

strong forum
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i like the sound of loud keyboard

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:dab:

outer solstice
fierce tendon
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its just about mic quality and knowing how to set up a decent system

outer solstice
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get loud keyboard to impress nomeratur

open monolith
outer solstice
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@open monolith yw

open monolith
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like, I'm pretty sure I am oily after reading that

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LOL

lusty marsh
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Lol

outer solstice
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dis the new /1 in CN now?

open monolith
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BRO IF EVERYONE IN THE HOUSE CAN'T HEAR YOU ON YOUR KEYBOARD ARE YOU EVEN GAMING?

lusty marsh
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Who cares about keyboards, the real debate is how big your mouse pad is.

outer solstice
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obviously 135cm x 30cm

open monolith
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I have no idea

fierce tendon
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RGB 9000 COLOR PERMITATIONS HANGING OFF THE DESK ASS MAT

outer solstice
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my keyboard fits on my mousepad xD

undone jacinth
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augment runes are selling for 1.2k on my server and I just got 2 missions that gave me 7 augment runes on my fae table 😮

lusty marsh
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And also if your mouse is wired with a threaded cable

open monolith
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I'm a degen claw gripper, make most of my movements on my mouse by manipulating my thumb, pinky, and ring finger.

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people who use their whole arm to move their mouse are barbarians

outer solstice
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@undone jacinth well tankign quick random hcs gives you tons of augments

fierce tendon
open monolith
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been gaming that way for 18 years, at least

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probably more

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no issues

lusty marsh
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Whole arm is only needed for high level fps play

open monolith
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I suppose I move my wrist left and right a bit if I need to move further.

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DrOwnz, let me ask you the question to TRULY determine how sweaty you are

cinder pasture
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Only thing giving me carpal is playing my bear alt

open monolith
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what angle is your keyboard sitting relative to you?

split wyvern
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Bear is cake dude lol 3 buttons

fierce tendon
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I claw gripped playing league for like 12 hours a day when I was a sweaty teenager so I ruined my wrist

open monolith
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you guys have delicate wrists.

split wyvern
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Prot seems chill without TC spam

lusty marsh
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15 degrees ofc.

open monolith
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I've seriously been claw gripping since.... idk when did WC3 come out?

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that's when I seriously started pc gaming

fierce tendon
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2004 lol

split wyvern
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I hold my mouse in a death grip

open monolith
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2002

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I was 14

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so yeah, 18 years

fierce tendon
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ah

lusty marsh
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Mouse claw is still child's play compared to psp claw.

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Any monster hunters in the chat

open monolith
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Lance main

split wyvern
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Crab grip on those PS controllers lol

open monolith
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hop hop poke poke poke

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MHW probably top 5 games of all time for me

outer solstice
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so in execute range, we pad with execute instead of revenge?

split wyvern
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Get a Naga

lusty marsh
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The psp destroyed my left hand in highschool

open monolith
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for single target DrOwnz, yes

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maybe even 2 target.. not sure

lusty marsh
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Sitting next to my ps3 with adhoc on

fierce tendon
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def for 2 target execute hits like truck

open monolith
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I can't use a razer naga because I actually use my thumb to move my mouse

split wyvern
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And some Glucosamine pills that will help listen those hand cramps

open monolith
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lifting my thumb up to press a button would feel too weird for me

undone jacinth
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execute does 4x dmg of revenge so xd

outer solstice
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@open monolith I use a roccat kone xD

open monolith
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4x damage of revenge at 20 rage?

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or 40

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well I guess it also gives some rage back

lusty marsh
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I thought execute was closer to double revenge.

sonic crown
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what do you spam now isntead of tc?

undone jacinth
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32 rage

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4x dmg

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bit over 4x

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so say 30

outer solstice
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why would you not spam tc? @sonic crown

undone jacinth
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so 50% more rage, 4x damage

open monolith
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Smucky is asking "now that warrior isn't braindead TC spam like BFA, what do I do?"

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and the answer is

sonic crown
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idk

outer solstice
open monolith
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step 1 is read the guide, step 2 is bring any lingering questions after the fact here šŸ™‚

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step 3 is belittle dolphin for using mastery

outer solstice
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so just to troll ppl you think 100k HP is achiveable atm? (temporarily)=

fierce tendon
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oh yeah

silver trout
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it totally is in torghast

fierce tendon
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you get 30% ls and 25% rallying with like a 55k base

silver trout
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^

outer solstice
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  • 12% NF
undone jacinth
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just play DH

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click meta

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done

split wyvern
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HP sponge

open monolith
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I mean, yeah pretty much that

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VDH invalidates the existence of every other tank right now (in m+ at least)

outer solstice
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I only have 52.4k base, noooooooooooooo

open monolith
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wow DrOwnz coming right out and admitting he's a casual

sonic crown
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WAIT WAIT WAIT

open monolith
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very brave

sonic crown
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so what do you spam as a war now?

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shieldbash?

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slam*

open monolith
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Read the pins

outer solstice
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95.9k damn, without stam flask and stamisn buff

open monolith
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we don't spam anything

outer solstice
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@sonic crown all my keyboard at 38% haste

sonic crown
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whats the optimal haste %?

open monolith
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160%

outer solstice
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all of it

fierce tendon
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Infinite

lusty marsh
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9999

sonic crown
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kk

fierce tendon
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Be like the cookie monster with haste

outer solstice
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nom nom nom

open monolith
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yo my daughter thinks cookie monster is lit af

fierce tendon
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lol

outer solstice
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I am a literal cookie monster xD

fierce tendon
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He knows what he wants cant blame her

outer solstice
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so I can relate

lusty marsh
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Is anyone here at 60k hp with consumes in raid yet?

sonic crown
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do you think we have good mythic + potenital?

open monolith
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I have honestly never paid attention to my hp

undone jacinth
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what consumable are u taking that gives u hp

chilly brook
sonic crown
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i am

outer solstice
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stam flask? šŸ˜›

chilly brook
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Stam flask is bad

lusty marsh
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I like hitting new to breakpoints.

sonic crown
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im at 60 k

open monolith
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Smucky every tank has good m+ potential

sonic crown
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with stam buff

open monolith
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that is more a skill thing than anything else

lusty marsh
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Ew, no Stam flask

chilly brook
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I'm at 58kish with stam buff

fierce tendon
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you can get the 25s stam potion weird

outer solstice
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@chilly brook yeah add rally on top

chilly brook
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I'm also running a 184 chest

outer solstice
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@fierce tendon lol they sound even worse than stam flask xD

sonic crown
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meant fort

chilly brook
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So could totally be higher

outer solstice
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running a 184 weapon/shield xD

fierce tendon
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Also we get 2% stamina next week from renown reward

undone jacinth
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warriors finally viable

open monolith
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I'm gonna need that 2% stam to keep up with your mom

lusty marsh
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I need to fix my cloak enchant. I put 20, 30avoid

open monolith
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

fierce tendon
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Lol

lusty marsh
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I didn't know avoidance was just aoe reduction

open monolith
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20 stam 30 avoid is good for cloak

chilly brook
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Eh

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Just go 30 stam

sonic crown
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I PUT MINor speed

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bad?

fierce tendon
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I like the leech on cloak

outer solstice
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btw seriosu question skirmish or stats ? on chest?

undone jacinth
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wheres the guy that said speed is the best tertiary stat

open monolith
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stats

lusty marsh
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Yeah I might go leech

chilly brook
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The tertiary stats on the cloak are so incredibly minor theres not really a "best" option imo

outer solstice
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speed is fine, but leech and avoidance I'd say are better if you can get out of everything

fierce tendon
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leech is actually crazy valuable imo, the cloak gives like almost 3% leech

undone jacinth
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his argument was speed was the best stat for survivability

chilly brook
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I'd rather have speed than either of those

fierce tendon
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enchant*

chilly brook
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Leech is a meme

outer solstice
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@undone jacinth if we would not have leap/charge/intervene

lusty marsh
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I've never noticed speed actually doing work.

chilly brook
#

I have in Legion

fierce tendon
#

it heals for the same amount as the deep wounds conduit so idk

chilly brook
#

Both of those are a meme

outer solstice
#

you notice speed if you have a lot of it, started as smf fury due to bad drops and some luck on speed rolsl and had like 16% speed

chilly brook
#

Why would you run deep wounds conduit when you can take 30 seconds off shield wall or increase your rage gen in last stand

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Or both

undone jacinth
#

the speed is nice, not disputing, but if you're wanting survivability there's no real argument

open monolith
#

all of our conduits are trash

#

all of our legendaries are trash

fierce tendon
#

oh I do take those, I was just saying the enchant heals as much as a conduit we have

outer solstice
#

the wall is pretty strong

lusty marsh
#

Hey hey, take that back. I love the wall

chilly brook
#

But that conduit is bad

open monolith
#

the wall is strong compared to everything else we have, yeah

lusty marsh
#

Everything else can change

outer solstice
#

wall + stalwart + AM xD

open monolith
#

but look at it compared to other tank class legendaries

#

and holy shit it is bad

undone jacinth
#

have u seen dk bro

#

they literally dont have one

open monolith
#

DKs don't exist

split wyvern
#

I cannot wait to use the Wall and Thunderlord together

open monolith
#

I never include them in my comparisons

#

lol

outer solstice
#

what shit did they get?

undone jacinth
#

nothing

#

they have literally nothing

chilly brook
#

I dont even see my own DK

lusty marsh
#

There is no way we will get to wear double leggos right?

chilly brook
#

That boi is hidden at the bottom of my list

fierce tendon
#

we will

#

Later

outer solstice
#

@lusty marsh I bet next raid

undone jacinth
#

they have one that applies all their plagues at the same time

outer solstice
#

+1 legendary per raid is my guess

undone jacinth
#

and one that gives their party vamp aura

#

and one that gives them a bit more dancing rune weapon I think

#

just tragic

chilly brook
undone jacinth
#

its not tho

#

its actually terrible

chilly brook
#

It is

outer solstice
#

so DKs are probabyl best ot just take the generic bastion one

undone jacinth
#

I know u need to find a way for the opposite of everything to be true

#

but on this one u just cant

outer solstice
#

for DPS warriors to meme and take it as well

chilly brook
#

Its damage and frost fever gives runic power

undone jacinth
#

wowsss

#

they do literally no dmg

split wyvern
#

Didn’t Blizz reduce the RP gen from super strain

undone jacinth
#

and a bit of runic power from a lego

#

amazing!

lusty marsh
#

I for one can't wait to put on leaper as my an2nd Lego for all those sweet taunt resets.

undone jacinth
#

they reduced everything about superstrain yeah

split wyvern
#

Lol trash

undone jacinth
#

alongside reducing the entire class in to the dirt

outer solstice
#

btw anyone tested how good judgment of the arbiter is for DPS for us? if there is a melee that has it as well?

chilly brook
undone jacinth
#

oh yeah I bet they think they have great lego options lmao

outer solstice
#

sadly I'm running a bit low on soul ash after my 4th legendary xD

chilly brook
#

Great as in effective or great as in fun

split wyvern
#

Boots for BDK might be ok

lusty marsh
#

Not making t4 wall smh

chilly brook
#

Because it's an effective legendary

split wyvern
#

BDK is still rough right now imo when I played mine

astral crystal
#

the wall is ballin

lusty marsh
#

I'm still holding out for a new leggo that gives ip on revenge.

undone jacinth
#

the lego gives 1 runic power every 2 seconds

astral crystal
#

honestly dont even miss tgv in m+

undone jacinth
#

and a bit of dmg to a class that does no dmg anyway

open monolith
#

man I was tanking heroic with a DK off tank

undone jacinth
#

and u think this is good

open monolith
#

i had to intervene him so many times

chilly brook
#

So SS literally adds 7% DPS on single target

#

per logs

undone jacinth
#

7% of 0 is still 0

chilly brook
#

you say that

#

but

undone jacinth
#

but what rofl

chilly brook
undone jacinth
#

wowwww!!!

split wyvern
#

Lol how does that dps help you survive as a tank I don’t get it

lusty marsh
#

I tanked with a pally yesterday 5 higher ilvl, 15 higher parse only 100 more dps.

chilly brook
lusty marsh
#

That said, I forgot to swap to fray

chilly brook
#

Can't meme their damage when they're doing more damage than us

undone jacinth
#

because prots ST damage is also in a great spot indeed

open monolith
#

what fights or dungeons are those logs from, Griff?

chilly brook
#

I just see a lot of goal post moving here

#

@open monolith huntsboi

#

mythic

open monolith
#

ah

#

hunts DPS is always giga padded 😮

#

what is the prot dps on those fights

astral crystal
#

is that mythic?

chilly brook
#

yes

undone jacinth
#

if ur lego gives u a bit of dmg and a bit of rp

#

its bad

chilly brook
#

They're still higher by like 400 DPS on mythic Hungering

#

7% isn't "a bit"

strong forum
#

DKs always had good ST

open monolith
#

is balance going to come after hall of fame... or now that we have 4 clears can we have balance

strong forum
#

but aoe doesnt exist

open monolith
#

I don't even care if prot doesn't get buffed, I just think general class balance right now is doodoo

chilly brook
outer solstice
#

@open monolith burst is super far off

chilly brook
astral crystal
#

tank balance is pretty good

outer solstice
#

lol xD you know aht legendary simms best for me atm? xD xD JUDGMENT OF THE F***** ARBITER

#

for padding that is

undone jacinth
#

I really wanna try that out but just cant afford the ash

outer solstice
#

also you need a melee to have it as well

#

for full effect

undone jacinth
#

might be worth it seeing as legendaries that just give u a bit of dmg are good now

chilly brook
#

If only signet worked

outer solstice
#

well it does... on avatar xD

#

on arms it feels a lot stronger though I agree

chilly brook
#

Half a legendary is

#

half a legendary lol

outer solstice
#

so how many legendaries y'all have?

#

I have 4 now xD deathmaker for fury, signet for arms, thunderlord (lvl 2 )and wall (lvl 2) xD

undone jacinth
#

crafted?

outer solstice
#

yeah

undone jacinth
#

just two on each ch ar

fierce tendon
#

Damn son wtf

#

I've just got the 1

undone jacinth
#

I would have more if the white pieces didnt cost a million gold each

chilly brook
#

Just the 1

outer solstice
#

well the lvl 1/2 are not that expensive

#

lv 1 signet was probabyl the most expensive

#

and not looking forward to uzpgrading it

fierce tendon
#

yeah but that's the soul ash u out into ur big 235 yep

lusty marsh
#

1 t4 wall

fierce tendon
#

I'm leveling up my companions so I can get that sweet 120 soul ash

#

Mission hard af

undone jacinth
#

just play night fae

#

cant lose

outer solstice
#

missions ez

#

NF op

chilly brook
#

I'm just chillin with The Wall

#

NF is BiS

fierce tendon
#

What do nf get?

chilly brook
#

AA is dope

lusty marsh
#

Should be doable now if you haven't neglected your table too much

undone jacinth
#

they get mobs that basically reduce all the enemy dmg to 0

chilly brook
#

Niya is op on mission table

outer solstice
#

healer trash that deals shittons of dmg

fierce tendon
#

Lol

#

Bastion companions are just deal dmg

undone jacinth
#

bastion companions are complete toilet

lusty marsh
#

Unlike our healer who heals one man for 20hp every 3 rounds.

fierce tendon
#

yeah I saw the 'heals'

chilly brook
#

Niya is just op

fierce tendon
#

more like a level 40 first aid user

lusty marsh
#

The damage steward is a cool concept but he also just doesn't give enough stat

outer solstice
#

but yeah the troops for NF are either: reduce dmg of all enemies and deal solid melee dmg or heal one ally for like 20% HP and deal shittons of range dmg

chilly brook
#

Niya if you put her middle front just buffs everyone a good amount

outer solstice
#

does itf sim at 1 stack or 5 stacks?

chilly brook
#

5

outer solstice
#

ty

chilly brook
#

sims are always at ideal conditions

outer solstice
#

even for judgment or the arbiter?

undone jacinth
#

no idea how its simming arbiter

outer solstice
#

it seems like it's only considering myself and not the arch

undone jacinth
#

yeah

#

would assume so

outer solstice
#

will take like 2 months or so until I'm williong to test it out xD

undone jacinth
#

might craft it on an alt just to see

chilly brook
#

I hate the NF uwu culture

#

But damn am I loving being one

undone jacinth
#

yeah reminds me of the druid discord

#

bad memories

#

but convoke best ability in the game

lusty marsh
outer solstice
lusty marsh
#

Nf ability seems amazing for caster packs though.

outer solstice
#

it is

#

also for phsical casts that needs interrupts

undone jacinth
#

just a shame about soulshape

outer solstice
#

also way less problems about moving mobs out of it with retard tanks when you are the retard tank youself

#

soulshape is amazing

undone jacinth
#

not needed tho

#

compared to phial

chilly brook
#

Soulshape is great this week

undone jacinth
#

phial is way better

chilly brook
#

It might be better, but I mean just drop your stacks 4head

undone jacinth
#

yeah it does drop ur stacks

chilly brook
#

I know

undone jacinth
#

and makes u immune to stacks

#

for 8seconds

#

its broken

chilly brook
#

I'm saying just kite and drop lmao

open monolith
#

only makes you immune if you're Kleia

#

which you should be on necrotic week, btw

undone jacinth
#

ofc

sonic crown
#

wait wait waiat

strong forum
#

pelagos reduces CD of potion

sonic crown
#

so everyone here thinks wars in a good spot for mythic +?

strong forum
#

so thats not to be ignored either

sonic crown
#

so many groups msg me LOL war

open monolith
#

All tanks are in a good spot Smucky

strong forum
#

pwar is fine

#

community perception is just fucked

open monolith
#

community perception is different

undone jacinth
#

the pelagos cd reduction is a bit of a bait

lusty marsh
#

I've yet to be messaged about being a war

open monolith
#

do you get pelagos CD reduction on anything that dies, or do you need last hit?

sonic crown
#

when you guys tank you dont use thudnerclap off cd?

undone jacinth
#

so its anything that dies

#

but right

open monolith
#

I've been removed from only ONE group for being a warrior, and it's because the Ragnaros healer threw a fit lol

undone jacinth
#

remember

#

the phial doesnt go on cd while ur in combat

open monolith
#

#ragnarosbeingragnaros

lusty marsh
#

Barely clap.

undone jacinth
#

so the pack u use it on

#

u dont get any reduction from

lusty marsh
#

Only when worried about rage

sonic crown
#

im awlys low on rage

lusty marsh
#

Not the case if you are tlord though

sonic crown
#

cuz i spam ignore pain

open monolith
#

Yes Smucky, you typically use Tclap on cooldown

#

unless something higher priority is up

#

or it would cause you to rage cap

#

or you want to pump

#

you shouldn't spam ignore pain

#

you should use ignore pain as needed

#

revenge makes things die faster

#

Press revenge more.

sonic crown
#

mhm mkk

#

i was only using revenge when free

outer solstice
#

so unnvering focus > stalwart > brutal vitality? or any exceptions ?

chilly brook
#

Tbh while I get phial has value I honestly think it's underwhelming

open monolith
#

DrOwnz all of our endurance conduits suck

#

use which one you lik ebest

#

lol

undone jacinth
#

not having phial on necrotic is very sad times

outer solstice
#

lol

open monolith
#

Unnerving focus only good with Bolster, imo

chilly brook
#

But that's my personal opinion on the matter

open monolith
#

Like, sure Griff, it's not an AMAZING ABILITY

#

but compare it to the other 3

#

soul shape? sure, but we don't need more mobility

outer solstice
#

unnerving seems super to pump revenges xD

open monolith
#

door of shadows? lol no

#

Necroshield? lolno

undone jacinth
#

the shield is decent

chilly brook
#

Plus Niya PUUUUMMMPPPPS

outer solstice
#

yeah niya pumps hard

open monolith
#

It also allows us to ignore tank swaps for longer on certain raid fights

outer solstice
#

12% master on demand

open monolith
#

I solo tank 1st bear of Huntsman with Phial

outer solstice
#

but yeah phila let's you trivialize some mechanics

tall mural
#

I thought it was basically an extra health and dispel pot every other week until this week with necrotic

undone jacinth
#

it is but the point is some dispels are very clutch

chilly brook
#

I solo 1st bear because it's dead before 3rd cast anyways

#

šŸ˜›

outer solstice
#

also tank swaps are not that big of a deal anyway

open monolith
#

phial is hands down the best tanking "utility" ability from the covenants

undone jacinth
#

if they unlocked all covenant abilities but only locked their signature spell then warriors might be the most fun class imo

open monolith
#

unless you're a filthy cripple DK who needs mobility

undone jacinth
#

thing is

#

what is a DKs main problem

open monolith
#

covenant abilities should be a talent row

#

fight me

outer solstice
#

no

#

you're right

open monolith
#

oh, thank you

outer solstice
#

they should be colored differently

#

per covenant

#

that's it

#

imagine a blue condemn

undone jacinth
#

buttttt

#

what if they unlock them in 2 patches time

#

think how much better it'll feel

#

to have been through the pain

outer solstice
#

I don'Ƥt think it'll feel much better

#

we're already used to it

modern brook
undone jacinth
#

lmao

outer solstice
#

the blink soulshape provides can be clutch though

chilly brook
#

Soulshape is instant though

outer solstice
#

yep

chilly brook
#

No cast required

#

šŸ™‚

outer solstice
#

and you stay in it, letting you e.g. move anima on stone legion generals

undone jacinth
#

whenever I want to leap away from a pack I always wish I could instead blink 10 yards

outer solstice
#

if you have the time

open monolith
#

Look

#

just because Blizzard was lazy with the Kyrian story

#

and completely wasted Devos

outer solstice
#

wait

open monolith
#

and made her story completely at odds with her afterlives

outer solstice
#

kyrian have a story?

undone jacinth
#

hey the little guy in redridge was a good story

open monolith
#

and I'll be fucking livid if uther is just a generic villain

#

...I don't know what my point was

plain glen
#

and we got to shut up that annoying fairy by turning her into a seed for the crest!

outer solstice
#

NF has liek tyrande and shadris and yera and all of them

chilly brook
split wyvern
#

Hearing about how cool Necrolords are makes me want to re roll

open monolith
#

I just made a shaman for necrolords

outer solstice
#

I luckily play a priest alt

undone jacinth
#

do it on another char

outer solstice
#

for necrolords

undone jacinth
#

I put my DH necrolord šŸ˜†

split wyvern
#

Nah I might just eat it will banner

open monolith
#

Necrolord Shaman, Kyrian Warrior, Night Fae Warlock, Venthyr Holy Pally

chilly brook
#

And it's lowkey great for getting around faster in general in M+

open monolith
#

ez game ez life

undone jacinth
#

great indeed

#

night fae warlock feels wrong

split wyvern
#

My Dk is Venthyr but I don’t play it. I was expecting a evil Vampire story not a viva la Revendreth tea party

outer solstice
#

switch over to NF with your DK

undone jacinth
#

wesley snipes gonna be in next patch

#

killing stuff in revendreth

split wyvern
#

Lol

#

It’s a cool zone

undone jacinth
#

I like the zone but navigating it is awful

split wyvern
#

Cruising around on a mount feels like garbage

open monolith
#

Maldraxxus is a cool zone

undone jacinth
#

that fucking guy that picks u up and throws u

open monolith
#

except... except that one area

#

where like...

#

the ground is flesh

split wyvern
open monolith
#

the mobs are flesh

#

there is hair coming out of the ground

#

that place is yucky and I don't like it

undone jacinth
#

I don't like how bland the colours are in maldraxxus

#

I thought it was gonna be my favourite zone

#

but feels a bit washed

open monolith
#

Bastion and Ardenweald objective best zones

split wyvern
#

Ardenwald has a heavy Avatar vibe

open monolith
#

good music, good scenery

undone jacinth
#

ardenweald is insane tbh

outer solstice
#

I feel retarded ...

#

can someone explain me

#

I have 28% haste base

open monolith
#

I like that they went the "mischievous small folk" irish folklore route with Night Fae

outer solstice
#

but with 5 stacks of itf

#

I have 41%

#

tf

strong forum
#

its multiplicative

outer solstice
#

ohhhh

strong forum
#

you have 100% haste base

outer solstice
#

dayum

strong forum
#

think of haste as 0% = 100%

undone jacinth
#

wow you're fast af

outer solstice
#

ty, got it

strong forum
#

and your 28% are 128%

outer solstice
#

though it's additive

open monolith
#

Agree or disagree with the following: Mists should have the same route every time in M+

outer solstice
#

fixed that wire in my brain

undone jacinth
#

disagree

open monolith
#

not because the maze is hard, but because it can fuck with %

strong forum
#

šŸ‘

undone jacinth
#

the puzzle is the most fun thing in thre

split wyvern
#

Bastion reminds me of the Greek Elysian Fields

strong forum
#

i like the puzzle in mists

outer solstice
#

every path in the maze should have the same %

#

but no, not the same route

undone jacinth
#

yeah that I can agree with

open monolith
#

do they have same %?

#

I read somewhere they don't

outer solstice
#

no

undone jacinth
#

no

strong forum
#

its a difference of like 2%

#

i think

open monolith
#

fix the %, keep the maze

sonic crown
#

i love you guys šŸ˜„

outer solstice
#

if you miss % you can get one more pack after the boss though

open monolith
#

I'm fine with that

strong forum
#

or well, variance

outer solstice
#

before pulling the boss

#

I think it's more tbh

cinder pasture
open monolith
#

Why do people skip packs in the river? I don't feel like any of those packs are more difficult for anything else, you have to pull extra if you skip the river pack anyway

outer solstice
#

if you skip the 3rd pack and use the nf shortcut you can often be 5% short

undone jacinth
#

u cant get out

#

after the quest

#

lol

open monolith
#

yes you can dolphin

cinder pasture
#

Uhm, yes you can ? šŸ˜›

open monolith
#

there are holes in the wall

#

on both sides of him

undone jacinth
#

well yeah I jump over the wall

#

ofc

#

but I mean through him

cinder pasture
#

I've never had a problem just running straight through him whenever I'm there

undone jacinth
#

wtf

#

he hates me?

outer solstice
#

yeah he grabbed me like once

open monolith
#

do the sidequest to make him think you're cool

#

and he'll ignore you forever

cinder pasture
#

Well you are a dolphin šŸ˜‚

undone jacinth
#

I did the quest that made him stop throwing me back and instead throws me forward

#

but now he always throws me inside instead of out

#

I thought that was just how it was

#

maybe I gave him a bad letter

open monolith
#

that's the main campaign

#

pretty sure there's another sidequest

outer solstice
#

is the gnome 1% haste multiplicative as well or additive?

undone jacinth
#

ah don't think there's any way I can be convinced to do a single quest that doesn't have the new fancy border around it

blissful pebble
undone jacinth
#

wow TIL

#

but I don't want his friendship now

#

it's gone too far

open monolith
#

Hey.

#

Stonehead is a good bud

blissful pebble
#

You get to cosplay as a rock the quest has everything

open monolith
#

just doin his job

outer solstice
#

yeah he jsut a bit stony in his head

#

but a good lad

undone jacinth
#

the rock and sock connection

#

is anyone allowed out of their house for new years

open monolith
#

well, I'm a responsible adult who works tomorrow morning

#

so I will be in bed at 830pm.

undone jacinth
#

work!?

#

isnt it a bank holiday

open monolith
#

911 supervisor

#

holidays are meaningless

undone jacinth
#

ah unfortch

open monolith
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

#

never much cared for new year's anyway

sonic crown
#

who wants a personal question?

open monolith
#

nobody

undone jacinth
#

true it is lame

#

but I wouldn't mind a firework or two

hallow phoenix
#

Sock I start at 911 dispatch this month peepostudy

open monolith
#

Does the PSAP you're going to work for combine call taking / dispatch into one, or is it 2 separate jobs?

hallow phoenix
#

Combined but training for fire/police dispatch starts like 6 months in

#

Till then I'll just be on phones

open monolith
#

Gotcha. Good luck šŸ™‚

limpid pawn
#

so for torghast, are there some known overpowered anima powers for prot?

blissful pebble
#

You are basically unkillable

hallow phoenix
#

Increased avatar duration, double armor value, almost any shout one

#

Either of the ancient aftershock ones

open monolith
#

either of the spear ones*

hallow phoenix
open monolith
#

Prot torghast is super smooth

steady aspen
#

Today was little rough at start layer 8 with heat torment

kindred warren
limpid pawn
#

ok ill try it out

hallow phoenix
#

The revenge one is fun for killing last boss

limpid pawn
#

also for raiding, anyone here go anger management + wall?

#

i see some top parses with it, but wondering about uptime of mitigation

#

with no bolster

blissful pebble
hallow phoenix
#

That combined with the zerker rage heal is hilarious

open monolith
#

The heat torment is basically non existent

hallow phoenix
#

Warrior healer

open monolith
#

you kill everything, so you always have victory rush

strong forum
#

i only killed the casters

#

cuz FUCK them

silver trout
#

the chance when hit to cast ignore pain is a favorite, combined with ignore pain has a chance to cast shield wall + the spiced mawrats

hallow phoenix
lusty marsh
#

Am wall has felt pretty good, I'd only change for sludge and denny.

primal saddle
#

what build are talent build are people doing for raid been spending the last while as an unholy but we need some more off tanks so im comeing back

open monolith
#

infinite rage for 90 seconds + ignore pain has a chance to cast shield wall = invulnerability

blissful pebble
#
primal saddle
#

lots of aoe dmg mostly

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also thanks

open monolith
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ITF + AM is better than bolster for raid, imo

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tank swaps happen frequently enough that you don't need the uptime from bolster on most fights

limpid pawn
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yeah ITF for sure

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well if you do 2x shield block, shield wall, shield block x 2 again

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thats pretty long

blissful pebble
limpid pawn
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then demo shout + last stand on the tail end

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but how quickly does shield wall return

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with conduit and everything

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like 2 min cooldown?

lusty marsh
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The world needs more resonating throatbands

primal saddle
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never thought into the frey was that good but i guess for raiding its pretty big dick

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do you need to be in the party for it to count or is it raidwide?

limpid pawn
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ravager for prog vs ITF is like throwing

lusty marsh
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Raid

primal saddle
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ravager was for m+

astral crystal
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god if they brought that IP to SW anima power to the regular game

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that'd be litty

undone jacinth
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can vary a fair bit tho

primal saddle
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wait how low of a CD does sheild wall get with the wall ?

strong forum
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2min

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with AM + Conduit

primal saddle
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hot shit

strong forum
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like 1min

primal saddle
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that includeing bolster?

limpid pawn
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1 min shield wall is a different story

nimble drift
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I need to get better at using shield wall in raid tbh

strong forum
limpid pawn
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no bolster

open monolith
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can't have both bolster and AM

strong forum
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1min with AM

open monolith
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šŸ™‚

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IF ONLY.

limpid pawn
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so if its 1 minute

open monolith
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IF ONLY WE COULD

primal saddle
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lol

nimble drift
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I feel like I rarely need it

open monolith
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Shield Wall in raid has less to do with you needing it versus taking pressure off the healers to heal someone else or do damage

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use it often.

nimble drift
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I mean if I have SB up, which I often do, I save it

open monolith
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think about it this way, if you spent 8 minutes fighting a boss and only used it once, you wasted a use

nimble drift
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On heroic sludge I was using it for the roars since I couldn't reduce that dmg much

limpid pawn
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2x shield block, shield wall, 2x shield block, demo shout + last stand, shield block x2 (maybe need to shield block during last stand), hakkar trinket, shield wall again

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will this work

open monolith
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you don't gain 2 shield block charges at once

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so, probably not

nimble drift
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Lol bro no boss is hitting you 24/7

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You dont need that much uptime

limpid pawn
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yo lemme theorycraft

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lol

open monolith
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naw man, everyone knows that theorycraft is lame

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feelycraft reigns supreme

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how do you feel

nimble drift
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Even sludge you get downtime with the stomps, charge, and roar

limpid pawn
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shadowlands makes it kinda imbalanced though, b/c there are tanks with full uptime

nimble drift
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I'm 8/10 heroic now, strictly pugging

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Feels pretty good man

undone jacinth
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what tank has full up time

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pala?

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with its terrible sotr

limpid pawn
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not to argue about what "uptime" means

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but monk has 100% uptime

undone jacinth
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lawl

limpid pawn
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blood dk has 100%

open monolith
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wow analyzer triggers me.
"YoU ArEn'T uSiNg TcLaP EnoUgH"

Shut up, I know what I'm doing, I'm ignoring tclap to PUMP WITH REVENGE.

limpid pawn
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pally has like 90% but not 100

undone jacinth
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ok dude haha

undone jacinth
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dk and monk are paper rn so maybe it's not the best metric

nimble drift
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Also wtf is woe analyzer