is the wall the best way to go for my first legendary, pretty useful across the board
#protection
fierce tendon
Other people like thunderlords but the wall is really solid for raiding in particular
War leggos kinda dog
midnight oar
is the wall the best way to go for my first legendary, pretty useful across the ...
Im here looking for the same answer. I can afford one legendary and I'll be tanking M+ and Raids
I think ill go thunderlord since I main spec arms and ill probably dps this week in raids
make wall next week
west prairie
still
midnight oar
Should thunderlord go feet or hands
mossy gazelle
Hey guys, I main arms in pvp, so can I choose keila/kyrian for prot M+?
west prairie
I wanna try em
fierce tendon
Should thunderlord go feet or hands
roughly the same stat weights on the pieces so whatever is lower ilvl
also might be smart to build after u get one of those pieces
midnight oar
alright ill just look at whatever is best upgrade for now
Whats the chance I'd be fine with *the wall *in M+
those shoulders are hot hot hot
steady spruce
@ebon tide there are a lot on wago https://wago.io/rkr8FIuDX#pid=1
ebon tide
Ty sir
formal river
@midnight oar you can never go wrong with the wall. it's our best in raid as well
thunderlord probly better for M+
midnight oar
<@!169678656195526657> you can never go wrong with the wall. it's our best in ra...
appreesh. I think ill go wall and see how it goes this week
if its brutal I know what ill be crafting next week 😉
formal river
more demo uptime is super useful in M=
midnight oar
gah
steel mauve
Should thunderlord go feet or hands
also should look at what you are doing, if you raid then the gloves from the raid are better itemized than the boots and use thunderlords for boots since they are less itemized from the raid
midnight oar
thanks, boots coming in hot
dry lance
Is there a world boss this week?
rare quartz
Are the new lvls of torghast still easy doing it solo prot? Or do I need to change specs
fierce tendon
First floor I had to reset a few times because I got the caster mob as the boss first, but once you get enough powers its easy
mellow geyser
Are the new lvls of torghast still easy doing it solo prot? Or do I need to chan...
If you have the caster mob at first boss you'll have to reset. Avoid every caster duos, pull carefully.
lavish oracle
@dry lance ardenweald
mellow geyser
@rare quartz You can do it, but it's really longer.
lavish oracle
I got the stacking spear power and the perma execute power
And just hung around on the first floor stacking them up
It was beautiful
fierce tendon
On torghast I noticed that it gives you the same powers at the beginning every time, is this intended? I get the shield slam cdr and some other garbage one not worth picking
lavish oracle
I think it's seeded for the week
It's to keep you from fishing for a God tier power at the door
strong forum
fierce tendon
Yuck lol. I remember the first time I went in 7 there was 1 other anima orb and I just got bodied by the first floor boss lol
lavish oracle
I tried fishing for powers last night, got the same 2 5 times in a row
Would be very surprised if it's not locked in in some manner
fierce tendon
I tried fishing for powers last night, got the same 2 5 times in a row
same had to reset 2-3 times and got same exact ones
maybe if you complete?
lavish oracle
Yeah, I'm not sure what the rules are
naive panther
I’ve tried to game it as well. Always got same powers to start.
chilly brook
Is limit on a break?
lavish oracle
Yeah, they just went on lunch
lavish oracle
They managed to get Growl to run M+ for their benched players
Which is like, a huge get
chilly brook
That's pretty dope
modern brook
I’ve tried to game it as well. Always got same powers to start.
The starting power resets with a cleared torghast
ie: if your layer 8 has 2 shitter options
you can complete a layer 1
and have 2 different shitter options
modern brook
the general consensus is either a) get a friend or b) get better drops for layer 8
apparently its much harder
i ahvent done it on my warrior yet though
naive panther
Not surprised.
modern brook
I'd say by sunday after M+ and raid ppl should be able to better solo it
lavish oracle
I got lucky in layer 7 but it seemed pretty rough
quaint fjord
hello, sorry for dumb question but is overhead slash (spires of ascension first boss) avoidable ?
solemn aspen
quaint fjord
ok thanks guys
chilly brook
i ahvent done it on my warrior yet though
I'll be doing 7 and 8 solo this afternoon when I get home so I'll let you know
chilly brook
But I mean the amount that I've been able to smash level 6 I don't see either 7 or 8 being an issue tbh
As long as I dont have shit powers anyways
Execute power is nuts
It's basically free
chilly brook
If you get execute power with the increased damage to targets affected by your shots and the 100% increased damage after charge or leap
modern brook
My general priority has been: elemental damage on hit > ragemote from 6th floor shop> execute> throat bands
modern brook
rage mote is super free tbh
somber sky
i mean isn't it what it literally is? XD
modern brook
imo its not really worth it unless its onsale in 6th floor shop
chilly brook
The only crappy thing is at least a week or two ago ragemote means you don't get any heals from indom
chilly brook
Cuz it just makes it all free so you're not actually "spending" rage
wintry jetty
just finished 8, didn't have ragemote on 6th, still was free
modern brook
good to hear
wintry jetty
(with execute power, and 3 damage on shouts)
modern brook
lol...
chilly brook
But then again if you have ragemote it's also a dead mob with execute
modern brook
SW on IP cast is also bonkers tbh
chilly brook
It is
modern brook
Honestly like all of warriors options are really good
remote python
status war prot hast + mastery + versa?
cinder roost
What would you pick considering I already have both in 200?
wintry jetty
all of prot options*
chilly brook
Increased duration on berserker rage is kinda ass
modern brook
is polyvalence == vers?
cinder roost
Oh
modern brook
also lol @ score de crit
chilly brook
Yo dude I want the hate stat
modern brook
Je parle francias un pue ? i tihnk thats right
chilly brook
That sounds warrior af
cinder roost
I hate making choice
lavish oracle
Can't pass up a 136 haste ring, haha
Testing out ITF just makes me want more haste
Where's the weekly dungeon quest, btw
Oh, nvm, found it
I don't know how I didn't see that when I grabbed my great vault
proven glen
if i have a 213 ilvl boots do i craft my thunderlord for hands?
honest plinth
we have 14 slots of gear. and TL boots. an i got boots from cn heroic chest.....what a fucking joke
dense pivot
okay level 8 torghast is pretty hard
sand kestrel
lol 10 spires clears and no thunderlord drop...I am starting to loath this dungeon
chilly brook
we have 14 slots of gear. and TL boots. an i got boots from cn heroic chest........
Hey I got boots too!
chilly brook
lol 10 spires clears and no thunderlord drop...I am starting to loath this dunge...
Do it on mythic
ocean kayak
so been leveling PLD, it seems to do everything warrior can but more, tank wise. Is this accurate into harder content?
ocean kayak
yh
chilly brook
No it's not accurate
They have less armor and mitigation than we do
They're capable of doing the same content just like every tank
But it's not going to be like a warrior or better in the mitigation department
turbid cargo
objectively worse because they're less angry
neon vigil
guys a question please, does the enchant on the ascendent vigor weapon when it procca that gives you 12% more healing received, does it also work on the shield that ignore pain provides?
ocean kayak
ahh ok cos i see they have holy power but they may as well have infinite of it, while rage is certainly something you need to think about at times (i am new to warrior)
ocean kayak
so we are more stable, less flashy and less memey then
chilly brook
I mean simply just play what you want to play
But be aware one of the world first teams has been running a prot warrior
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
turbid cargo
ocean kayak
2bh warrior is fun and feels fun but was leveling a pally for random stuff and it seemed a little nutso, wasnt sure
thanks for the info ^^
chilly brook
Really paladin has a lot of damage, fun feedback loop and good utility
grizzled skiff
Have any of you managed to do layer 8 upper reaches without contemplating suicide? If so, how ?
chilly brook
Have any of you managed to do layer 8 upper reaches without contemplating suicid...
I'll let you know when I smash it after work
novel willow
TIL you can spell reflect the shadow claws in sanguine depths
really fucking wish I'd realized that last week
grizzled skiff
I'm 200 ilvl and shit was damn near impossible.
chilly brook
People said that about layer 4
grizzled skiff
Stomped all the other layers.
grizzled skiff
Dude I'm not some scrub. Wait till u get there.
I laughed at all of those Andy's.
dense pivot
LOL same
chilly brook
Gonna be a lot of waiting cuz I still have 2ish hours of work
grizzled skiff
But this is damn insane.
chilly brook
grizzled skiff
Ur gonna cry man, I tell you.
dense pivot
do it
chilly brook
I doubt I'll cry
dense pivot
it's gonna be fun
grizzled skiff
Layer 1 floor guardian slaps with 6k 1sec perma casts.
And pacifies u for 4 sec rndmly
chilly brook
I bet
grizzled skiff
While u have fuck all dmg cause floor 1.
chilly brook
That theres a wall you can cheese the casts on
chilly brook
Nice
grizzled skiff
There is one but it'll do you no good
grizzled skiff
The dudes are fast and the casts clip los
modern brook
Its 100% drop guarentee in raid
dont kill his enthusiasm :^(
chilly brook
Also we already had someone in here that said they solo'd layer 8
grizzled skiff
Like 50% of the time.
chilly brook
Without much of an issue
chilly brook
modern brook
thats me!
dense pivot
execute power is very poggers
chilly brook
Execute power is very very pog indeed
fallow mortar
upperreaches, floor two boss punched me hard and I didn't have the sustain to out last his damage
grizzled skiff
U need close to BiS rng very early in that place to beat it I guess.
I don't feel like fishing for powers hours on end.
Meanwhile as arms every mob 3 shots u lol
formal river
@granite cloud big grats man
granite cloud
now i just need to grind some ash
modern brook
@granite cloud 's here to grind ash and kick ass
west kayak
Upper Reaches 8 took me a couple "Rerolls" to get the anima I needed to make it to Floor 3. Once I got their I cleared it. You just need the anima to survive if you get the caster floor boss that spams Sin Bolt.
formal river
I lost to the sin bolt boss my first try
Said fuck it and did a 5 man
First time grouping in there
dense pivot
yeah that guys is crazy
formal river
Only so many interrupts
dense pivot
maybe somekind of corner hugging helps but it's rough
formal river
I 5 manned and immediately got 500% demo shout and 2x 30% amp damage on shouts.
My group shredded
granite cloud
@modern brook and I'm all out of ash
dense pivot
good to know full stack is doing okay there
formal river
I did get super lucky with powers but it seemed easy
chilly brook
Hard when the cast is si fast
You just have to dip behind to stop the cast and then come back out
Everything you do is instant so it wouldn't actually make it take that much longer
Positioning is important when corner cheesing
formal river
Capture yourself doing that. I want to see you not go insane
The mob health is stupid.
fringe marten
What is everyones favorite Unit frame addon? Loving plater..but I need something to change the actual target and focus target frames. (or can plater do that as well?)
fringe marten
and regarding plater; I can't seem to get some nameplate text colors to stay the way I want them; it keeps copying the 'personal' stat bar colors for text and such. I see the drop down menu for 'copy settings from' and every time I change it, it keeps going back, weather I hit yes or no ? lol odd.
Erga where is that option?
errant oriole
hey guys how are prot wars doing?
dense pivot
okay?
fringe marten
Umm..isn't Limit using a prot warrior for their world first race? or is it on specific fights?
leaden steeple
just stack haste and you're good to go
chilly brook
Umm..isn't Limit using a prot warrior for their world first race? or is it on sp...
They've used prot for every fight
Looks like they're doing another split run rn tho
fringe marten
Hm..where in Plater are the options to change actual unit frames appearance? (trying to get rid of the stupid gold dragon graphic and make my off tank (focus target) buffs show clearly.
I tanked mythic shriekwing last night..it was literally easier than heroic because the difficulty vs my gear wasn't as large of a gap as heroic was LOL.
trim imp
hows everyone dooing in mythic+?
ive been having difficulty lately and just dont understand why
just wondering if i suck or if its been a challenge for anyone else
dense pivot
I assume if you push high enough with low enough gear you will start having problems face tanking (as any other tank)
trim imp
im 189ilvl and struggle even in 5s and 6s
nimble drift
6s have become the new mythic 2s for me. I can confidently pug them and they're easy
lavish oracle
All tanks are getting hit harder this xpac, hard to say where the issue lies without seeing what you're doing. The biggest tip I'd offer is to learn how to kite this xpac 😄
trim imp
yea, i think i must need to do a whole lot more kiting, because thats what i keep hearing
finite coral
holy shit torghast is hard all of a sudden
ebon tide
@lavish oracle You think there is a chance that "kite" may change? I've tanked before but never M+, and honestly, while I don't mind it TOOO much, it is a little disappointing. 75% of the appeal of a tank class to me is being able to manage cooldowns, mitigation, and hold threat. Running from mobs is what dps does (assuming it's not being tanked properly). Just feels .... bad man?
lavish oracle
Yeah, potentially, it's possible kiting is only really big right now because we're short on gear and that we'll scale really well
nimble drift
Tbh you can tank a bit. Most mobs you can tank fine. rotating SB, last stand, shield wall
But if kicks aren't going off and you're out of defensives, kite a bit
It's not ALWAYS kiting
lavish oracle
Yeah, I don't have to kite every pack or anything but just be more conscious of having to kite
You could face tank just about anything last xpac, and that won't really fly anymore
nimble drift
Anyone have any preferred healers? The only class that has kept me up the entire dungeon, CONSISTANTLY, are paladins. Everything else is fine, but paladins are fucking awesome
lavish oracle
All my friends are hpal or druid so that's basically what I have the most experience with
lavish oracle
Both are great, if you run with a lot of hpal though, make sure you have a cancel aura macro on your bar 😄
blissful imp
early on Disc Priests were scary as shit, but I think all the FOTM rerollers and shadow mains abandoned it when they realized it's not an easy spec to play
sage cairn
Disc is stupid fun though
I am currently playing a prot war disc priest and prot pally
empty nexus
wut weapon ench for tanking m+
sage cairn
Warrior out gears pally by 20 ilvls and I feel like I wont die in mythics unless kicks arent going out. If magic is out there I get wrecked if people are not interrupting. Since we only have 3 really int shout pummel and shockwave
However on prot pally you have stupid amounts of interrupts since your shield toss interrupts your Syrian ability tosses out 5 shields so interrupts everyone and you have a stun as well as an interrupt on top of that
You can also full heal 1 player at any time as well as wog full heal your self plus buble someone as in addition. To bubbling yourself
Yes my pally takes more physical damage however they can also block magic damage with their base block value. I love my war and have mained since I started playing in work
But I just dont see how they can keep up right now.
modern brook
wut weapon ench for tanking m+
The stat one celestial whatever the lightless one also p good
When in doubt go stats
sage cairn
Yeah you might be able to mitigate a little more however wars cannot continuously heal themselves and their party. Is that being taken into effect
empty nexus
is it me or thunderlord seems kinda lame (havent tried it yet so idk how good it is)
empty nexus
does it reduce every thunderclap or only 4.5s out of the 45s cd or w/e the shout cd was i forgot
lavish oracle
@sage cairn Warrior just takes way less physical damage
And since the damage profile of keys is like 75%phys that's a big advantage
sage cairn
Just the shout cd. However it makes you build where shout gives 40 rage so you have more uptime on all defensive
lavish oracle
Also, my hps on warrior isn't really that far behind my pally
hexed helm
what dungeons are easiest for us prot warriors?
novel willow
is haste good enough that I should take a lot of haste and a little crit <over> a little haste and a lot of mastery?
lavish oracle
Thought my pally is like 10 ilvl lower atm
lavish oracle
Honestly I'd just take bigger haste
sage cairn
Yeah hps isn't much behind my pally however I can save a wipe by keeping my healer alive or dps alive on pally and cannot do it on war. I kill d of hate the spot I'm in right now since I like my war now. But have been turned away from keys that I get accepted to on my 20 ilvl lower pally
Mastery is way better than crit though isnt it
chilly brook
Yeah you might be able to mitigate a little more however wars cannot continuousl...
You don't continuously heal yourself or your party as a prot paladin either unless you wanna get slapped and die in actual content. And yes that's what EHRPS does it looks at the healing you require.
It removes your own healing.
pastel sleet
is unnerving focus a trap?
hexed helm
what M+ dungeons are easiest to tank on war?
pastel sleet
i like it too... but warcraft logs says no one is running it
lavish oracle
For raid or M+?
pastel sleet
m+
chilly brook
Lightee said something about never not using unnerving focus
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Feel like I'm referencing him a lot recently
lavish oracle
Yeah, just seems good to me
ionic fern
It is good for m+. O o
pastel sleet
okay thats what i thought too. just making sure
ionic fern
A lot of people run it
lavish oracle
Way better than brutal vitality in terms of like, amount of extra IP acquired
sage cairn
You don't continuously heal yourself or your party as a prot paladin either unle...
Sotr does. Not give a lot of armor. Granted you do use it quite a bit but at 3 holy power you have a heal that can 1 shot heal you bro full hp or anyone in your party if it crits. As well as if you use 5 sotr you get a free wog
Some fights on my 160 pally I heal for over 2k hps
chilly brook
SotR gives far more armor and mitigation than you heal with WoG....
lavish oracle
SotR makes my Pally's armor like equal to my warrior's makes me sad, haha
ionic fern
We are warriors. We don't heal. We mitigate it upfront.
lavish oracle
I'm being a little facetious
chilly brook
Don't use SotR on sludgefist and only WoG it and see how that goes for you
pastel sleet
just hit 202 woot]
chilly brook
I'm also aware of how prot pally works
I was maining it until everyone flipped out about having two
WoG is nice
But no you're not some godly healer
lavish oracle
Seems cool when you're off tanking though
chilly brook
SotR/Consecrate/CDs are far more important
lavish oracle
Nice to just pop off some heals in raid
sage cairn
Or in a mythic plus is all I'm saying. It is difficult for me because I like my war more. But get accepted to more on pally
chilly brook
When you're taking damage SotR>WoG
lavish oracle
I just run with peeps I know
sage cairn
Dong know that many peeps lol
ionic fern
@sage cairn close to no issues getting accepted as warrior.
ionic fern
Maybe it's the score? 🤷♂️
sage cairn
185 ilvl cant get into 3s
chilly brook
I mean if you've done a 0 you have a 3 key
sage cairn
163 pally gets Into 3s lol
chilly brook
steel mauve
never had a problem getting into 4/5s at 170
ionic fern
I got declined from a +0 on my Paladin..does that mean paladins are bad?
steel mauve
and my io sucks currently
ionic fern
sage cairn
Dang ok well I'll see how it goes more today then when I get home.
steel mauve
have every single one tell you that you were declined because of being a warrior solely?
ionic fern
Play which ever class you like more. Tanks are always in demand and looking for a group won't take too long.
ionic fern
You don't have either?
sage cairn
I'll say this though healing. Dk sucks
chilly brook
Nope
hexed helm
im a 196 prot and get into any group that i apply to
chilly brook
I finally got the go ahead to main warrior
ionic fern
😂
ionic fern
The Wall is more versatile and can flex between raid/m+ better.
chilly brook
So probably the wall for a more raid focus?
ionic fern
Jeah,do that first
chilly brook
Aight
chilly brook
I also wasn't trying to make 190s hence why I dont have any
ionic fern
My only issue with The Wall is that everyone is going "oh,so low SW cd!!!" And then they never use SW.
ionic fern
Same
chilly brook
My single target is ass
ionic fern
Good week to practice on dummies cause m+ is horrible. 😂
ionic fern
Just did a +10 halls and depleted by a lot. People getting smacked by tornadoes left and right. Diddn't help that one of the rogues was doing less overall dps than me
chilly brook
The tornadoes are ass
So bad in SD
As if asking people to dodge red balls on the second boss wasn't hard enough
open monolith
So I got splintered heart of a'lar 😦 however it literally saved a key from failing immediately after, so 😄
chilly brook
They gotta throw tornadoes in small ass hallways
grand drum
Delete storming pls
trim imp
Bro bolstering sucks
hollow ice
lul
sonic tangle
So would it be worth upgrading the Thunderlord boots to rank 3 or craft The Wall? Debating on what to do this week with my ash
lavish oracle
I mean, I'm basically using SW on cd
Like, might as well refund an SB charge when I can
@sonic tangle Leggo power is frontloaded, you're probably better off crafting the Wall unless you're like Thunderlord's ride or die
sonic tangle
Thats what I'm thinking too, I feel like the wall will be better overall aside from like aoe fights and shit
blissful imp
with some tweaks I think Storming could be a good affix
as it is right now, with how many spawn, how long they last and their unpredictability sometimes
just frustrates the hell out of me
my range friends were like "it's just like volcanic but for melee"
the fuck it is, you just side step 2 feet for volcanic
those damn tornados hunt your ass down for a minut
steel mauve
if i had the wall i would have made it but went with tlords
been able to pug 1 boss so far in raid, but havent tried too hard
sonic tangle
I made tlords cuz its what I had and it was better than the 171s I was wearing
Probbies just gonna make the wall
Im commiting
cloud cargo
Hello, quick q.. ascended vigor or lifhtles force on one hand? 🙂
chilly brook
Lightless force afaik but should be answered 100% in the guide on IV
night tusk
Is there a haste soft cap for us Prot warriors? if so what percent is it?
ember inlet
106
The more - the better
Around 30% prot doesn't feel so clunky anymore, you start getting beautiful combos and rage gen
And devastator will prock more and more
Which will lead to more rage and more self healing
But most importantly block cd is affected by haste as well
steel mauve
there isnt really a soft or hard cap
ember inlet
Maybe we need another termin for that
orchid heron
75%cd on sb (1.9s cd) is the gameplay I'm looking for (Thx thorgast for giving me unrealistics hopes)
sweet surge
Guys, I used to have opened a Google Spreadsheet for M+ blockable/SReflectable mob/boss mechanics
Any1 that actually bookmarked it that can link? 😄
undone jacinth
It’s in the pins
static turret
What covenant (kyrian/night fae) is better for mythic and raids rn?
sick sentinel
can I just stop questing after doing all zones
tall mural
sick sentinel
so that i can play the game
uncut finch
What covenant (kyrian/night fae) is better for mythic and raids rn?
Kyrian
fallow mortar
What covenant (kyrian/night fae) is better for mythic and raids rn?
Venthyr
empty nexus
Got a question about trinkets slime consumptive organ and blood spattered scale or scale + badge
losing 3% haste without badge and im siting at 17% but that slime is pretty nice
prisma crow
which slot am i supposed to get as my legendary? does it matter?
undone jacinth
usually whatever gives u the most stats
prisma crow
mmkay
undone jacinth
hands give more stats I think
empty nexus
damn idk 20% haste looks nice but almost 10k heal whenever i got 9 stacks is more worth i think
steel mauve
boots and hands are the same
undone jacinth
I checked same ilvl and hands had more stats
steel mauve
its recommended to make tlords as boots
undone jacinth
ok..
jagged mortar
low kindle
wonder when blizz will fix the interaction between signet and prot ravager O.o
steel mauve
boots are less itemized from raid im in a m+ lol
prisma crow
im doing mythic and i dont raid
steel mauve
if you dont raid then it wont matter what tlords you make
amber herald
Anyone got a good guide on what can/can't be spell reflected in mythic+?
oh
It's the first pin
ionic pewter
reflecting reaping scythe on Mordretha feels damn good
sick sentinel
is it even posisble to tank kin-tara on a "high" key this week
her slash does 41k damage on an +11
dark lark
you can side step the slash
sick sentinel
how
sick sentinel
is there a video
tardy parcel
the timing is just crummy if you have any lag but yeah it's doable
It's just a cone
sick sentinel
why does DBM tell you to soak it
tardy parcel
Dude I've wondered that since day 1
astral crystal
you guys try the wall in keys yet?
sick sentinel
dark lark
@sick sentinel not a warrior pov, but it's naowh https://www.twitch.tv/videos/836978293?t=6h17m14s
dbm is wrong
astral crystal
you can dodge the overhead slash @sick sentinel
tardy parcel
I think Nomeratur has been running Wall in keys @astral crystal
dark lark
at
sick sentinel
ok
astral crystal
yeah it's a cast iirc? so you have a little time to react
tardy parcel
yeah if you just do it at almost 100, she'll just follow you lol
dark lark
you anticipate at 100
and watch the cast
it's fast but if you anticipate it you can do it
sick sentinel
the dmg is jsut too fucking high
dark lark
you should never ever get hit by it, that shit trucks
uncut finch
On that naowh video, do you guys know what he uses to have the boss abilities coming in those type of bars? Right above the boss ui
dark lark
it's a highly customized elvui
sick sentinel
what also sucks is she immediately auto attacks after it
so if that didnt kill u the auto attack will lmao
ocean heath
anyone beat layer 8 yet?
west kayak
anyone beat layer 8 yet?
Aye.
uncut finch
Do you guys have your offense trinkets macrod with something else? Or do you manually press them?
ocean heath
I could only beat layer 7 with the 50% chance to SW on IP and then cheesing infinite spawns for always execute
west kayak
Thats some lucky RNG with those. I had to restart it until I got decent Anima's and once I made it to Floor 3 I was golden.
Getting past the first two can be trickey, especially if you get a caster that chain casts Sin Bolt.
ocean heath
tried layer 8 and level 2 boss beat me down
tardy parcel
Do you guys have your offense trinkets macrod with something else? Or do you man...
I macro Overwhelming Power Crystal with Avatar because the CDs line up perfectly if not running AM lol
slate shell
i had the probably the best combo in layer8, had the 30 executes anima at floor2, then at the vendor before the last boss i got the infinite rage for 1.5min
so i just executed the shit out of last boss
ocean heath
exactly what i had lol
I had 5 phantasma on victory rush so I cheesed infinite skeletons for 1000 phantasma lol
uncut finch
I macro Overwhelming Power Crystal with Avatar because the CDs line up perfectly...
I usually macro them with SB .. just thought the more I use it the better.. but good to know Im not the only one
=)
west kayak
The last boss was easier than the Floor bosses. I got lucky with 80% rage generation and a few other basic ones.
ocean heath
You guys ever do them in groups?
steel mauve
its inefficient to macro most trinkets to abilities just to be lazy
uncut finch
Well yea.. I guess I wouldn't want to use it when there is like one mob
But I feel like I forget about them if I don't do that
novel willow
I have an addon that will tell me what boss an item I'm looking at will drop from. which sucks because I dont care about what boss it'll drop off of, I care which dungeon I need to do. is there an addon that will show me the dungeon source in the tooltip for an item?
tardy parcel
its inefficient to macro most trinkets to abilities just to be lazy
Yeah, but with something like OPC, in what scenario is it beneficial to be taking advantage of the added crit outside of Avatar if the timing totally lines up with Avatar?
empty nexus
with thunder lord UF and bolster or still ravager
west prairie
is kleia any good for prot
astral orbit
Which soulbind is better, Pelegos or keila?
dusty bridge
Let me know @empty nexus was also gonna ask that. UF/AM or Bolster/ravenger
steel mauve
bolster/ravager still
rain saffron
anyone manage to clear thorgast lvl7 and8 with prot?
after the patch its a shitshow compared to last week...floor 1 or 2 and its over
shut summit
yes
rain saffron
ok then im just bad
shut summit
its definitely harder, just hafta be good with interrupts / get some decent powers
flat nymph
Yeah done 8 aswell just always take damage powers basically and make sure you're using stuns and interupts on casters or they eat you
undone jacinth
you can LoS a lot for breathers or to group stuff
split eagle
Hi all I have been tanking m+ and for some reason I am taking loads of damage despite keeping up sb and ip up whenever necessary. Am I doing something wrong? Or just inadequate interrupts. I'm 196 but struggling hard on +7s and 8s
undone jacinth
makes a big difference
civic rover
Hi all I have been tanking m+ and for some reason I am taking loads of damage de...
are mobs hitting your back?
civic rover
is the group interrupting/ccing properly? is the healer able to keep up?
split eagle
Seems like I need to kite more then I should
undone jacinth
what key
civic rover
these dungeons are pretty tank unfriendly overall and if the group isn't playing well that can be a big factor in feeling squishy, but kiting is also a bigger part of tanking now than ever.
split eagle
Dungeons like sanguine and theatre
undone jacinth
on a 6 tyrannical with that gear u shouldn’t be near needing to kite, the likeilhood is you just don’t know about some major important casts certain mobs have
split eagle
I wiped so hard on 2nd boss in sanguine because healer had to focus heal me and put hots only on team
6 I have no issues
7 the difficulty jumps
civic rover
there could be a lot of reasons and without video of you playing it's kinda hard to pin it down on one or two things
undone jacinth
6789 should all apply to really
split eagle
Had to down sanguine depths 7 to 6
split eagle
there could be a lot of reasons and without video of you playing it's kinda hard...
Aight will post a video when I can
undone jacinth
there’s specific casts like the hound masters enraging the bears or whatever that will punish you, you just need to learn what the really important stuff is
and use ur kit to stop it
at that level it’ll only be the really big things you need to focus on first
split eagle
Yea I know about the hounds and stuff I feel the problem seems to be taking too much magic damage
Ip can only block this much
undone jacinth
there’s not much magic dmg in there
civic rover
every tank is struggling with magic damage rn
undone jacinth
u have reflect, kick, storm bolt and shockwave
and fear
and demo shout and wall and ip
split eagle
I've been popping cooldowns so I'm really struggling to understand what I'm doing wrong
undone jacinth
like the guy said it’s super hard without a video
undone jacinth
there’s an awesome site called mythic trap that shows u dungeon guides and I’d suggest just focusing on the most dangerous mobs in that
once u learn the big stuff u can progress up
split eagle
Arh ok I take a look at that
civic rover
and for all we know, you might not even be doing anything super wrong, it could very well be groups not using their CC's and interrupts properly, which is why a lot of people recommend trying to find a consistent group to do keys with.
ornate agate
hi guys, what is the best legendary for protection at the moment in M+?
undone jacinth
warrior has a kit where you should be able to cover most yourself in those keys tho
civic rover
but that's a whole other topic. mythic trap is solid and i love the website.
generally yeah, but every key is different, every situation is different, some stuff might be on CD or something
sick sentinel
i got the wall from LFR just now
civic rover
hi guys, what is the best legendary for protection at the moment in M+?
currently kind of up for debate, between the wall and thunderlord.
ornate agate
so tahts the shield slam reduces cd of shield wall by 5 secs
sick sentinel
i have both, but i can't make either
ornate agate
and the thunderclap that reduces demo shout by 5 secs?
civic rover
yeah
ornate agate
cd of demo shout by 5 secs*
civic rover
up to 4.5 seconds depending on how many it hits
ornate agate
yeah so its so tough to decide lol
civic rover
both are good legendaries, i'm currently using thunderlord because im too lazy to craft a second legendary
undone jacinth
imo it feels like you go wall once you reach a point that ur just getting rammed
ornate agate
shield wall is 40% vs 20% from demo shout
civic rover
yeah, once you get into harder content the wall will properly take over
undone jacinth
wall is 50
sick sentinel
SW used to be 40%
ornate agate
i mean, what are you guys considering as harder content?
10+
?
or 15+
(in the m plus world)
undone jacinth
this week? Like 11 right now lmao
civic rover
anything higher than a 10 rn probably ye
undone jacinth
these bosses are major brutal
undone jacinth
with AM and the conduit it’s around 1min on a good day by my calcs
and devastator
ornate agate
yeah thats pretty good
undone jacinth
but that means u don’t have bolster or the dmg buff from demo
ornate agate
i mean for warriors atm, survival is pretty key
i find myself being blown up all the time, struggling to generate rage to spam IP
seems like rage generation from autos, thunder and slam aint enough
civic rover
rage generation is fine you just have to be mindful of how you spend it
ornate agate
yeah maybe my discipline isnt great
undone jacinth
kyrian and ravager make rage a lot better
civic rover
it's a big adjustment from BFA season 4 where you literally had to mash IP to not cap out on rage
digital nova
i literally moved my revenge keybind over and placed IP more prominently
ornate agate
exactly, revenge destroys rage, kinda sad lol
undone jacinth
just get procs xd
digital nova
just because bad muscle memory from questing and torghast is killing me
undone jacinth
the worst is when u get the power that buffs ur next revenge for every crate u kill and u have to tell urself not to presss it the entire run
I have to take it off my bars
undone jacinth
tell them to bop!
ornate agate
major tradeoff lol, use revenge and aoe, or try to use thunderclap and hit all targets to get aggro
when dps literally no fucks given, will go all out immediately lol
would you say a buff is coming for prot warriors?
digital nova
doubtful
digital nova
if blizz thought they were underperforming, buffs would've happened already
civic rover
and the reality is, they aren't underperforming.
undone jacinth
the only thing they lack is single target dps imo
digital nova
i saw videos of warriors clearing +15 last week, so it's definitely the player/group at fault for prot dying
undone jacinth
and they still have execute
civic rover
people are still clearing pretty high level content with them. players just need more time to adjust to the playstyle. People are lost in BFA playstyle still.
digital nova
shit I'm struggling to time an 8 so I have a lot of improvement to do myself
undone jacinth
I mean the world first mythic clear is literally gonna be done by a Prot warrior
civic rover
VDH is probably seeing popularity because chaos brand
digital nova
Rank 3 TL or pick up the wall this week?
ornate agate
rallying cry is hugeeee
undone jacinth
ye they both literally for the buffs
although DH just happens to also be the best tank lol
ornate agate
finally they get to shine though lol
civic rover
i'm raiding on monk because i always raid on monk
i need a braindead class to raid on so i can focus on the actual fight mechanics 
civic rover
necrolord brewmaster feels really good man
with the double keg smash legendary
so much uptime on stuff.
civic rover
i switched my warr from necro to kyrian solely because of the potion
undone jacinth
I did the same but venthyr to kyrian for the potion lol
civic rover
my bear is venthyr
undone jacinth
but then I used spear and was like ok this ducking owns
my bear is fae, convoke is way too cool
civic rover
incarn+venthyr ability=literally pull half a dungeon and not die
undone jacinth
yeah it’s insane dmg
outer dirge
The biggest issue I'm finding with war prot is sometimes we just drop
dusty bridge
Anyone try out the faes? They seem decent for tanking too
undone jacinth
the trick is to know when that sometimes is 😄
civic rover
nightfae for prot is solid
yeah this expansion is really gonna be a test for tanks, another month in and it'll be really easy to spot an average tank from a great tank.
undone jacinth
the knockdown seems amazing in m+ tbh
civic rover
sometimes the best thing to do when tanking, is just run the fuck away
outer dirge
Not wrong
lunar perch
sometimes the best thing to do when tanking, is just *run the fuck away*
learnt that lesson last night
hahaha
civic rover
necrotic wake makes me want to chop my hand off with a dull axe
undone jacinth
I dunno if I hate it as much as plaguefall but it’s close
outer dirge
What are keys like this week? Slow?
civic rover
plaguefall might be rough but its cool
outer dirge
Haha
undone jacinth
well, u don’t really die as much as ur entire group dies to every boss
healers must be crying
dusty bridge
Yeah it’s rough. 5s feel like 8s, 8s feel like 11s. Well that’s my experience at least
digital nova
i don't know why i thought "fortified going away will make m+ more fun this week"
tyrannical
"fuck me"
barren widget
Mordtetha is a hoot with storming.
digital nova
splat
civic rover
foritifed/tyrannical need to just be taken off
uninteresting affixes that do nothing but add time to the dungeon
undone jacinth
I didn’t used to agree because it made dungeons feel different each week but SL has convinced me
there’s just so many killer mechanics with them
civic rover
siege of boralus tyrannical
better have five or more minutes left for the last boss 😎
undone jacinth
then u miss the last cannon shot and miss time by 1 second
civic rover
inspired by a true story?
civic rover
the group i run M+ with almost never played again after our first night
BFA season 4... tyrannical freehold, harlan takes literally three fucking minutes to die, we missed the timer by like 4 seconds
then corruption vendor came
civic rover
it was stupid but it was funny
undone jacinth
the on,y thing I remember enjoying was using the echo essence, taking a dps players blood of the enemy, using meta, then hoping that twilight dev procced and crit
would literally delete a pack if it procced
west prairie
so with thunderlord, bolster and ravager are better than uf and am ?
steel mauve
yes
solid granite
Ravager still feels very bad, dunno why
steel mauve
does a lot of damage and really strong rage gen on a short cd
viral portal
Hello guys, do you think its worth to level up blacksmith recipe to rank 2,3 and 4 or just buy pieces from ah?
steel mauve
depends on how much the higher tiers are going for honestly
you basically need to make 15 items just to level up to the next tier, so depends on how self sufficient you are/ah prices
solid granite
@steel mauve sure, the burst together with Ancient Aftershock is great, still feels bad though imho
stray finch
what are the best secondary to put on the wall?
viral portal
@steel mauve i think rn the higher rank is about 40k on ah
undone jacinth
what are the best secondary to put on the wall?
debatable but probably haste vers
haste and w/e
robust kite
I'm at 24% haste now boys 😄
undone jacinth
Only 76% to go
robust kite
^ The dream
solemn night
I have a 200 Gluttonous Spike, a 171 Blood-spttered scale, a 187 Decanter, and a 184 Field Emitter - any ideas on the best combination for a few medium-high end M+?
robust kite
however On my DH that I have since abandoned since making a warrior he had 112% when I popped trink + haste food + metamorph last expansion lol
undone jacinth
galecallers boon rip
prisma gorge
Hello guys, with the wall and AM you keep ravager or you get another talent on that row?
steel mauve
still go ravager
mighty monolith
Well this is interesting. Just getting back into the game and now re learning prot.
quartz mist
worth equipping bargasts leash ? 213
prisma gorge
this raid talents? with the wall lego
quartz mist
double time
solid granite
Is there a spreadsheet for spell reflect in m+/castle nathria yet?
undone sun
yes
muted rapids
sick sentinel
U can't intercept npcs any more just players
astral orbit
Anyone?
sick sentinel
No I don't use pawn
round vortex
Anyone got good Pawn values for Crit haste mastery and vers?
No one will have generic values. Sim yourself on raidbots and go to your stat weights and import them into pawn.
sick sentinel
From what I knew in bfa you just needed has and vers for raid and crit for dungeons
Not too much seems to have changed overall
undone sun
don't use pawn
quartz mist
@muted rapids yeah man , depressed af lmao
remote stump
just got this but can't seem to find info about it, yall think its good vs alternatives from m+ ?
steel mauve
pawn is a completely worthless addon to have installed, and stat weights are a nearly useless metric
grand drum
Dont use pawn. Generally you just go ilvl
fair blaze
what about pawn with simmed strings?
undone sun
you'll be simming after every piece anyways
so it's an unnecessary middleman
a wise man once said
If absolutely necessary to use pawn, which it's not, all pawn strings are personal so they wouldn't have the same value to others as they would for you so simming your own stat weight through raidbots would yield best results for you, that also means you need to resim for every new piece of gear obtained and add the new weights, meaning pawn is an incredibly unnecessary middleman. Delete pawn.
dusty bridge
So Ilvl rules all? What about in the a scenario where you have a mastery/crit piece vs haste ?
plain vapor
sweet summit
So Ilvl rules all? What about in the a scenario where you have a mastery/crit pi...
Ye, but not rings/neck/trinkets
sick sentinel
anyone getting auto attacked for 14k random on huntsman
chilly brook
he has an enrage function
sick sentinel
this was on phase 2
lavish oracle
He also just autos hard
sweet summit
Id guess you dropped block?
steel mauve
Ya the 14k damage would be ripped soul getting to him
Couldnt get it done in a pug, kept having it happen
sweet summit
Leech
quiet dove
where can i see like an item reference? % os stats
on*
im with 11,57% versa and 13,92% haste
fallow violet
Can someone tell me when or if we will get buffed as it’s literally so hard to keep threat and it’s annoying af
undone sun
no one can predict the future
fallow violet
Well someone should
twin comet
Just revenge a few times and TC on cool down.
undone sun
10%
forest fern
anyone know what the distance cap is on the bomb we take out of the raid on artificer?
undone sun
okaybuddy
fallow violet
Love you all goodnight
novel temple
ok peopel, so im running torghast and im in the fractured chambers and theres 3 other disconnected platforms
how do i get to them if im kyrian and there's no cages to jump on
i literally have an anime orb across from me and its frustrating
the other 3 platforms also have the ball and chains
obtuse charm
Is prot the best spec for torghast?
fringe marten
Mickeyjay you still around?
on our quick reclear of normal I was able to get shriekwings dps trinky....it's so fun !
Not that great (except in pvp, where it is godlike)
brazen grotto
Yo so what did u guys do for writhing soulmass?? It's kicking my ass at level 7
fringe marten
The..? OH the new torghast stuff... yeah that's the place you go when you don't, wake up..go to work, come home..and raid in an hour. I had to do my last few layers of torghast, then the jaina quest, the floor 6 of the 'other' wing.. at like 1 am on monday night.
Do NOT leave torghast until the end of the week..you will hate life.
Also just did an 11 spires using 2 on use trinks, the blood spattered scale and overwhelming power crystal... I'm honestly not hatin' 2 on use. Was kinda' cool.
fringe marten
Don't hate.. what's going on with torghast 7?
Is it challenging even as prot? I know they nerfed the hp/damage of mobs when solo queued as healer, did they adjust it for solo tanks?
fringe marten
Overtuned like...early BFA mythic island mechanics overtuned?
or just "I needed to take all single target damage and healing anima powers' overtuned?
versed bough
What stats should I go for as tank in m+? I feel squishy >.<
undone sun
stats wont change that
brazen grotto
probably need dps anima talents
fringe marten
Hetriyd, as always...it's ilevel is king; and if you feel squishy you've somehow found yourself in a key you couldn't build yourself; or aren't playing the class or the key/dungeon right.
Also understand that the meta for tanks right now pushing really difficult keys is the same as it was legion, early bfa...Kiting. No one can fully face tank packs that are nasty vs their experience/gear.
chilly brook
@ionic fern well I think I fixed my problem, was doing 1.9k on the raiding dummy after almost 6 minutes and that's without any raid buffs or lust or consumables
ionic fern
chilly brook
Also The Wall with AM is so pog
fringe marten
It isn't BFA where we could clap the world into submission while maintaining 100% block uptime. (or close to it)
chilly brook
So glad I crafted it after doing both layer 8s tonight
sturdy sable
Yeah I have no regrets about going all in on the wall
fringe marten
we were doing reclear and I was staying AM even through heroic again...I now prefer that for sure. But in keys I'm still running bolster.
chilly brook
Feels really great in m+ tbh
fringe marten
Were you doing keys with AM as well matt?
versed bough
What lego should I get? I kinda feel THE WALL
chilly brook
Were you doing keys with AM as well matt?
Yep
Probably not ideal
But it's also not anything past a 10 rn
Honestly shield wall being up so often has benefits though
Really nice on caster packs for example like de other side
fringe marten
You're gonna' do more dps, more avatar time..and more ability to solidify nasty pulls with shield wall, just not the ability to stand and face tank as long.
ionic fern
Meanwhile i'm just happy having DS up on every pack 2x times.
fringe marten
does honey potpie work any more, and stack with Tclaps slow?
ionic fern
chilly brook
Had some nutty pulls, one of which the party would have lived if I didn't DC
chilly brook
Meanwhile i'm just happy having DS up on every pack 2x times.
I only have so much soul ash
fringe marten
Did you craft both mwahi, or dive in on Tlord boots?
ionic fern
I've only crafted Tlord right now.
chilly brook
But I think I'll stick with the wall until its maxed and then work on TGV
I already have the gloves
fringe marten
That's what I have to do matt, because our main focus is raiding...so I am expected to be boosting my main raid legendary every week it's possible to do so.
chilly brook
My main focus is raid so the wall was the move
fringe marten
But I want my thunderlords asap.
fringe marten
I'm pretty darn sure we're going to be able to wear more than 1 lego deeper into the expac anyway
chilly brook
Big shield slams were pog
I could definitely see how some people had issues with layer 8
But I'm thankful I didnt have said issues
📈
fringe marten
Raiding early in the tier and of a new expansion has also made me re-realize how powerful Punish was. with the cookie cutter azerite/corrupted loadout I had forgotten entirely about it.
If the bosses are the issue...git you some Scratched Knife~~ poof bosses go away.
chilly brook
I'm just hoping I'm a little more solid tomorrow
And by a little more solid I mean not going 5 seconds of non direct heals
fringe marten
What are you working on atm?
chilly brook
Picking up on hungering
fringe marten
Hero/mythic?
chilly brook
We full cleared normal yesterday
Heroic
I wish we were going into mythic
But people need gear
Understandably
Plus tuning still seems kinda wack
fringe marten
ok hero; he punches really stout on heroic.. but the thing to remember is all you're really doing is making sure to have block up for his autos. and he literally gets 1 or two..between each cast of ...randomcrap..he's doing. His Overwhelm ? or whatever isn't even the issue.
It's the 'spread out' phase..while you're tanking, so you take a magic hit, and his slam
chilly brook
Yea we had like 2 pulls before we ran outta time
Tbh the problem isn't us its everyone else doing mechanics
fringe marten
with Wall/AM you can cover MANY of those phases with Shield wall. and only save reflect for that.
versed bough
Should I go Anger management over the others?
chilly brook
Sure if you wanna do dps
Or need the extra reduction of Shield Wall for something
Otherwise Bolster is better defensively
fringe marten
Depends on the environment Het. In raiding it's very solid once paired with 'the wall' legendary. Because you can have shield wall up for big mechanics overlaps frequently. And you don't need to maintain such a 'long' block window due to taunt swaps/etc. it's M+ where you're wanting 'bolster' more than raiding..but it's great for both.
chilly brook
But like in raid you can, assuming you don't have weak healers, get away with running DR and AM
And just pump
fringe marten
Does Dragon roar gives more dps than BV?
versed bough
Im going tank m+ I'll just get bolster
chilly brook
Does Dragon roar gives more dps than BV?
In single target
Or at least does in my sim
Ymmv
fringe marten
hm interesting. I was running BV, ittf, and AM all through norm/heroic tonight.
maybe I'll try some Droar tomorrow.
fringe marten
Correct me if I'm wrong here too.. I know shadowlands has a fairly steep diminishing returns cap at 30% of any secondary (except mastery..mastery has it's own wonk-ass calculation)
chilly brook
Lightee swears by it in keys
next yacht
How good is night fae for prot in m+?
fringe marten
BUT talents, and buffs...don't obey the DR
so as we gear up, and can get near 30% haste on gear, the haste from ITTF will have full value still?
chilly brook
BUT talents, and buffs...don't obey the DR
Depends but in the case of ITF iirc that is correct
Also it's not quite as steep as you think
Haste is still extremely valuable and it's a small DR
fringe marten
ehhh..it's pretty raunchy, I was looking at the CD of shield block as I would go well passed 30%, and saw it not move too far under 12 seconds (it did ..but not a ton)
and in BFA it was well under that
chilly brook
Nom iirc posted something about the DRs
sweet summit
How good is night fae for prot in m+?
Very good
chilly brook
And its not very drastic
fringe marten
Ok that's what I thought...I just was concerned ITTF would lose value as we got more haste.
chilly brook
Quite the opposite :)
sweet summit
Its not worth worrying about
cerulean quest
The affixes this week... are they considered to be harder or easier that last week?
chilly brook
The affixes this week... are they considered to be harder or easier that last we...
Much harder
sweet summit
Last week was the best week on the calendar
chilly brook
These affixes suck
cerulean quest
Really
fringe marten
Aye, affixes are mu...ok ya' know what. No. ONE affix is absolute full on cancer.
chilly brook
Big donkey balls
fringe marten
Tyrannical is ..whatever, you know how it works.
chilly brook
Storming is so stupid
sweet summit
Spmo fucking aids
chilly brook
So much more disruptive than volcanic
cerulean quest
I do dungeons with my irl mates and weirdly this week seems better
chilly brook
What key level
fringe marten
(yes short answer is, keys are substantially harder..because people will run in thinking they can pull packs like last week, with bolster some of that becomes fatal quickly.)
cerulean quest
Pretty low which is probably why
chilly brook
Cuz it gets dicey even in an 8 on some of these bosses
cerulean quest
The issue was last week, they didn’t have the dps to kill trash packs quickly and they started to hurt
I was 3rd or even 2nd in dps as prot
fringe marten
Also, some bosses will surprise you. Ventunax? or whatever.. Spires. Yo...casters were crying~
chilly brook
Fort sucks for tanks kinda, but tyranical sucks for everyone
cerulean quest
Yeah that’s true
I think because I’m doing low ass keys
It feels a bit better
But yeah I did a little mists 6 yesterday and was surprised at the bosses!
Just the time it took to kill them haha
chilly brook
I was hoping to get 14s done this week but I dont think itll happen with tyrannical
fringe marten
Storming ..? I guess was supposed to be the melee counter balance to ..? quaking/volcanic I guess. It's not even remotely similarly 'difficult' ...it's exponentially worse than those.
chilly brook
Basically this
Volcanic is literally hey just sidestep
Quaking was already a melee affix
In a way
But hey gotta discourage melee comps somehow since they've dominated m+ since introduction
The ghost affix is gonna be aids too
fringe marten
AND..much like volcanic, the more mobs you have, the more tornados. In some dungeons where we could get ballsy because a couple packs all had similar HP or we had an urn or spear to stun/etc... you pull big, and it turns into legend of zelda storm temple~~
chilly brook
Honestly I was kiting so much
And it wasn't even because I needed to not get hit
It was so my dps had room to stand...
novel temple
shit trash in de other side last week on a 10 was just fucking gibbing the shit out of me on pull
chilly brook
And it's so bad on the broker boss in De Other Side
Because the storming spawn is the same color as the mines
novel temple
is it exactly like the tornados from kings rest?
cause i couldnt see those little shits at all
chilly brook
shit trash in de other side last week on a 10 was just fucking gibbing the shit ...
Trash in De Other Side is horribly overtuned imo
fringe marten
Rolly the worst packs in there are workable using the urns that are usually nearby... which leads me to; the covenent interaction with the dungeons is cool/fun...it's also necessary in most dungeons, which makes it also stupid.
Also the way the covenant abilities are balanced leads to.. "anyone a necrolo....nope? ..didn't think so. ok putting key in"
chilly brook
Also why would they put a 4 man caster pack right next to a melee dude with Raptors as if it's not a shitty enough pull
neat dirge
Does intercept + Diebyetheblade on the tank
novel temple
it was the pack before you go to hakkar
those mini mobs
not the big one with teh shadowcore
just all casted their special ability
cerulean quest
So I guess that’s why it’s easier for me