ye
#protection
lusty marsh
If only heroic throw had no minimum range
lavish oracle
I just run war machine, because I'm a rebel
lusty marsh
true
deep steppe
No! Sleep! Till sixtyyyyyyyyyy!
lucid geyser
Yo, am I the only one or does Devastator currently not apply Deep Wounds?
coarse star
ur the only 1
lucid geyser
Well damn
astral crystal
what's the name of the tgv memory item?
still pagoda
Memory of Thunderlord @astral crystal
astral crystal
ty
still pagoda
timber nest
TFW you go to update elvui and it fails, but already deleted the old elvui
astral crystal
BAD feels
nova rover
Good luck guys! have a blast
marble meteor
how scuffed is tanking as venthyr?
going fury main, but considering going kyrian instead of venthyr to have a decent covenant for all specs.
thorny reef
I am seriously considering going venthir even if it's a dead covenant for prot just to be able to have a separate soulbind for prot spec
the thing with kyrian being decent all spec is that all spec want the same soulbind which is pelagos
and you can't respec your soulbind as you wish so F that
thorny reef
you dont want exactly the same path which sucks
strong forum
you can take 2 paths
thorny reef
and what the deal on conduit swapping now ?
thorny reef
You mean you can take 1 path on 1 spec and another path on the other ?
strong forum
yes
thorny reef
Totally didnt follow the news on spec & soulbinds
strong forum
you can swap paths freely
cloud glade
So is the go-to for prot now Kyrian?
strong forum
always has been
cloud glade
I thought nightfae was top for a while on beta
strong forum
nop
strong forum
venthyr wont be top unless condemn becomes aoe
and they nerf kyrian potion into the ground
strong forum
^
Kyrian is overall the best covenant to play if you wanna dps and tank in raid, and pvp
F
still pagoda
kazzak just died
Draenor still alive
vocal skiff
Imagine having hope for things turning out well in 2020
strong forum
still pagoda
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/461655419505475585/780578207522619412/unk...
fuck
flat fjord
be lucky halfof us can't get in
still pagoda
i bet RU servers are ded
topaz cove
i got in but my keyboard wasnt working
flat fjord
i am draenor to
woven kiln
Kazzak live 🙂
sudden kayak
according to the ping were suppose to go kyrian its recomended for prot warrior right?
pin i mean
woven kiln
best all-round, and for raiding. NF for M+ if that's your sole focus
sudden kayak
kk ty
still pagoda
chu-chu motherfucker
limpid pawn
is it worth multi-window leveling 2 accoutns together
or do alts get to skip a lot of quests and stuff after I have a level 60?
still pagoda
love getting dc'd and not having characters
i'm in maldraxxus already
70% to lvl54
all the RP slows it down so much
still pagoda
inland mesa
I've been disconnected 3 times and it takes like 3 mins to open quest dialogue each time
eager lodge
strong forum
same
just about to finish maldraxxus
couldnt start playing until 1AM my time
its 4:43
still pagoda
i'm on last 2 chapters now
still pagoda
couldnt start playing until 1AM my time
you didn't skip much shit
1 hour of meaningless RP in the maw and oribos is what killed my time
vague coyote
don't worry not missing much i was mining a node on illidan for 85 seconds before it booted me to the black screen
spare cobalt
Haha f dude
I was almost out of the maw
I’m pretty degen so I’ll hit 60 when people go to bed
lusty ember
Felt so set on night fae but questing with spear has been super satisfying
strong forum
banner is big suck
still pagoda
Twitter
@strong forum RIP
i'm stuck
send help
fuck all the morons aoeing on this spot
strong forum
killed mothbane a while ago
still pagoda
you're lucky
strong forum
im just good
still pagoda
retardation
warm sigil
did anyone else have really bad teamates on necrotic wake
especially with the meathook mechanic
strong forum
na i skipped that dungeon
vapid bramble
Stat prio values for protection?
strong forum
ilvl >>> haste >vers=Crit
strong forum
arms wants crit>mastery
strong forum
i dont know of any breakpointrs
vapid bramble
Aight
vapid bramble
Me neither ,so ^^
limpid pawn
wait what?
still pagoda
strong forum
1hr faster
limpid pawn
1hr faster than like normal questing i did on main you mean?
strong forum
what else would i suggest
vapid bramble
Alts get covenant ability at 50?
strong forum
if you choose threads of fate leveling yes
but you only get that once you finished leveling through story atleast once
vapid bramble
Oh nice
Hows arbiter lego for prot performing?
Trying to theorycraftsqueez armsmain +prot m+
strong forum
idk what that is
vapid bramble
Judgement of the arbiter legendary .nvm
brittle owl
just play chad signet 
deft sapphire
Most dps specs will have a better aoe leggo than that one
So I doubt it’ll ever get value
strong forum
Aaand done with story
ionic fern
Aaand done with story
I just logged in. 😂
ionic fern
Are you guys leveling as prot or arms?
I'm leveling as Prot but i know a lot of others prefer one of the DPS specs.
lone folio
Just wondering what's faster, I'm also lvling as prot
Had to raid today in Classic so I'm still 53
cosmic canyon
anyone looked into theoretical damage outputs compared to the straight forward build, if you went maldraxxus & crit stack for banner compared to bastion?
languid heath
Fury maybe?
Wondering the same, last I heard Fury is better (later on in raids) for what it’s worth, but that might be outdated. Arms channel had the sky falling last time I kinda followed.
And the best prot covenant isnt really compatible with either DPS spec (raids), that’s still true right?
When you guys say you level as prot do you refer to spamming dungeons?
ionic fern
Kyrian/NF for Protection in general, i'm not sure what Arms/Fury are taking.
I'm questing as protection.
👀
tardy kettle
mwhai, would you still go nf for raid?
im on the edge, just dinged 60 and cant decide if nf or kyrian
languid heath
Thanks @ionic fern
tardy kettle
everyone seems to go kyrian, they nerfed vial before, maybe they nerf it again when raid launches?
languid heath
I'm questing as protection.
You must really LOVE prot 😄 I mean my warr is my main and I like tanking most, but still 😬 Back when I first started WOW my very first char was a Dwarf Warr and I tried to level as Prot and nearly quit the game. Ofc things were different then.
languid heath
everyone seems to go kyrian, they nerfed vial before, maybe they nerf it again w...
Yeah I‘m a little worried about that too, plus I like Kyrian asthetics least
ionic fern
everyone seems to go kyrian, they nerfed vial before, maybe they nerf it again w...
That's not out of the question that they will nerf it again. 🙂 If you like NF then go NF. I'll probably go NF first just due to m+ playgrounds and swap to Kyrian a bit later. Then again, i'm only lvl 50 still so i got plenty of time to think around. 😂
ionic fern
You must really LOVE prot 😄 I mean my warr is my main and I like tanking most, ...
In all honestly, i do not find any difference in time when leveling as Prot..only if there's a single enemey it might take longer than it would as Fury/Arms but rest of the time i'm pulling half the map on me and killing them instantly. 😂
tardy kettle
im just unsure how big of an impact the vial might be. as warrios we suck when we take non blockable damage, so vial might be really handy...
ionic fern
It will definitely be very useful. 🙂
tardy kettle
but enjoy your way to 60, I'll go get some hours of sleep... maybe I decide in my dreams
ionic fern
But unless you're raiding at some serious level i wouldn't bother with it.
You can always swap for it a bit later. 🤷
languid heath
In all honestly, i do not find any difference in time when leveling as Prot..onl...
Huh, I wouldn’t have guessed 🤔 Maybe I’ll give it a try when I get to play later today 👍🏻
still pagoda
Got to 60s and set up my cov
Now i can sleep
No way I'm leveling my alts on this day
astral crystal
pain
cosmic canyon
what's the best tradeskills for us? or it won't matter? i'm thinking enchants, trinkets and whatnot
mental scarab
Alch/herb for the free flask time
cosmic canyon
later alch engi then for cr? or will they change combat res
mental scarab
Dunno
cosmic canyon
i'm not missing out on any unbalanced shoulder enchants or leg spikes or whatever? haha
mental scarab
Nha dont think so😂
sick sentinel
How is the DMF trinket? I usually go herb/inscription as early expansion you can make some big dollar
sweet summit
Darkmoon ones look kinda shit i think
sick sentinel
Might switch that to alc then, I usually just store the herbs until max then decide.
brittle owl
so it'll almost be guaranteed 10 second duration
might be useful at the start
due to the flat damage reduction it's usefulness is limited though
brittle owl
so it'd be an average gain of 27kish phys EHP every 1.5 mins
brittle owl
i think we can block and dodge while channeling the maldraxxus shield
👀 👀 👀
warm sigil
Is smithing worth in shadowlands
brittle owl
can you log what you're doing @novel temple ?
sick sentinel
due to the flat damage reduction it's usefulness is limited though
Thank you, wonder how the decks are for other roles. Try and get some money made
brittle owl
you'll get the bulk of your money from inscription by making missives
@novel temple https://www.warcraftlogs.com/help/start
@sick sentinel get on these ASAP, before people start crafting leggos
sick sentinel
<@456226577798135808> get on these ASAP, before people start crafting leggos
Will do! I'll do a little research now & start pumping these out. The no need to rush is perfect opportunity
brittle owl
should look at what warlocks hunters mages and the like preffer as secondaries
and focus on the most popular ones
sick sentinel
Absolutely, I'm sure there will be a more preferred secondary for majority
novel temple
should i integrate my warcraft logs account with my battle net?
@brittle owl sync bnet to wc logs or nah
ok @brittle owl what do i do for solo content and logging
astral crystal
we gunnin for haste/vers?
brittle owl
@novel temple you can go into a lower level dungeon (bfa) or even a normal dungeon, start logging, pull a trashpack, then channel the ability while something is hitting you
it'd be the fastest way imo
it's fine to sync bnet to wcl
novel temple
oh, ill just walk into plaguefall and do that
astral crystal
anyone manage to get the thunderlord dream yet?
pastel sleet
at what point should we replace a 115 vita and a 130 dragonscale
novel temple
so it didnt log my dungeon?
i just ran through plaguefall and notta damn thing is showing up in my files
sweet summit
Are u in the right folder?
novel temple
went to my wow file and into logs
sweet summit
Strange
stable flower
How is prot war compared to brew and Prot pally?
strong forum
Got to 60s and set up my cov
damn you slow bruh
i went to bed 5hrs ago, time for session 2 and an alt
ionic fern
- 👀
strong forum
ye my buddy didnt go to bed and is now capped on everything
can only wait for reset
pastel sleet
at what point should we replace a 115 vita and a 130 dragonscale
strong forum
🤷♂️
prolly for some heroic/mythic dungeon trinkets
vita prolly only for m+/raid trinkets
pastel sleet
okay thank you
narrow karma
Any ideas if this reset will the take the full hour
narrow karma
Sometimes it’s only like C 15 mins
sweet summit
all tanks are good, play whatever you want
brittle owl
did you manage to sort it out @novel temple
sick sentinel
i think might blow gasket valve if i have to continue with warrior lol
monk seems alot simpler, but im sure its not becuase of the movement abilities
and i really don't undestand stagger in the least of all
brittle owl
what's there to understand about it 👀
sick sentinel
doesn't register for me.
it's not a tangible thing that i know is going on, i don't get it
sweet summit
instead of taking all damage upfront, you instead get a dot
brittle owl
i mean
that's the skill curve of monk
basic level it's like not even playing, mash buttons randomly you aight
skill ceiling is managing stagger correctly and gaming it for damage
also gaming CB's
sick sentinel
i feel like DK and monk tank would be BIS in a raid then, monk main tank boss and DK taunts off to AMS/stacks while the stagger on you goes away
sick sentinel
thats what i mean, i know something about stage 1 2 3 of stagger heavy moderate and light, but always felt like i'd go into combat and take hellla damage at once and die
and that killed it for me
unkempt dirge
the legendary spell reflect to all party members could put warrior at the top for some raid encounters
iron parcel
is it specifically for prot or can you just make a dps warrior take that
sick sentinel
anything that can mass cast fireball/shadowbolt/ice bolt ETC that would be godtier on
iron parcel
anyways it's party only afaik
sick sentinel
reflect 20 fireballs to boss.... yeha
iron parcel
so with only 1 you're not gonna do much i feel
unkempt dirge
eh keeps the melee alive
sweet summit
it got changed and its only the nearest ally
unkempt dirge
for the legendary?
sweet summit
yes
brittle owl
rando guy at that
iron parcel
raiding as fury again I guess
brittle owl
so you can't big brain it
iron parcel
😦
sick sentinel
i dunno if i ever come back be serious but if i do i am going to have to find a way of ensuring all my audio cues go off BEFORE the ability starts to cast, so i can prepare CD, otherwise wont play tank
brittle owl
as long as monk exists there's no niche for pwarr and guardian druid
sick sentinel
what about DK
sick sentinel
i have a dk and pala 50
brittle owl
dk has amz
so monk+bdk is the best trihard optimized tank comp atm
unless theres some giga dps check and you take a paladin or a vdh
brittle owl
yes but you'd need a scenario where you would want to drop every other piece of utility brought by every other tank AND dps warriors are dogshit awful
which is a very narrow scenario
sick sentinel
warrior is 130 ilvl with max cloak and 94 or 95 neck
did just about everything which makes him first canidate to be leveld up, but guess we see
brittle owl
play w/e honestly 🤷♂️
you're 100% not in a scenario where class choice would affect your performance
timber nest
When should i be replacing azerite gear? as soon as i get a piece for that slot no matter the ilevel? or only when the ilevel is higher?
sweet summit
when you get something with more str
brittle owl
i'll give you a hint
look at str and stam
on azerite
the budget is ridiculous even at 60
still pagoda
@strong forum how much time did it take you to get to lvl60 on your first toon today?
noice
still pagoda
EU
still pagoda
still pagoda
i woke up after taking a sleep break after getting lvl60 on my warri
and i see this
still pagoda
kazzak-stan doe
Draenor
still pagoda
the only server that didn't die this time around
ionic fern
👀
still pagoda
seriously, i had zero dcs during first hours
still pagoda
it was still a clusterfuck
went by DesMephisto's guide
got slowed down by all the RP blizz shoved into leveling
felt i leveled only half of the time
the other i was watching non-cutscene RP
grand drum
I was fighting for spawns half the time in maldraxxus
outer wedge
It was a perfect launch! Sargeras was flawlessly working great.
brittle owl
eeeeeh
still pagoda
would you want MoP/WoD launch over again?
brittle owl
idk bout legion
still pagoda
no, thanks
brittle owl
bfa was rocky af
still pagoda
BfA was not as rocky as MoP
brittle owl
outer wedge
I mean everything worked well last night. I had no problems questing.
still pagoda
same for me
brittle owl
they busted out the nitrogen cooling tanks
still pagoda
i had 2 crashes, had leveled through ardenweald when it was bugged, battled for tags in maldraxxus and was already too tired when i was in Revendreth
brittle owl
overclocked the shit out of the datacenters
prob accounting for 2% warming index this year
still pagoda
tbh, next time i will need to prepare differently
get some sleep right before launch for example
ionic fern
Out of curiosity - what makes you do this? Like stay up and level as fast as possible?
etc
sweet summit
addiction
still pagoda
tbh, idk at that point. In Legion i was able to level up on launch really fast despite being total casual
on BfA i got bugs on bugs, on bugs, on bugs
strong forum
<@!192743144276623360> how much time did it take you to get to lvl60 on your fir...
7.5hrs
still pagoda
that turned 6 hours into 14
naive swallow
Out of curiosity - what makes you do this? Like stay up and level as fast as pos...
for me, I do it in a decent amt of games, is fun to rush p much
brittle owl
i leveled in bfa on launch cuz we hung out as a guild + i was during a sabbatical at that time 
still pagoda
_If not counting me dropping out by the time i've hit later parts of Ardenweald
still pagoda
i leveled in bfa on launch cuz we hung out as a guild + i was during a sabbatica...
we did the same this night
but... Half couldn't even log in first 2-3 hours
strong forum
yup
naive swallow
Out of curiosity - what makes you do this? Like stay up and level as fast as pos...
plus xpack launches are a unique time, I can always go back and savor everything when I please, but there is only one F R E S H R U S H
strong forum
all we did was comparing who got further on login screen past tyrande booba
ionic fern
👀
outer wedge
Lol more like making fun of people who logged out.
still pagoda
all we did was comparing who got further on login screen past tyrande booba
back in BfA, i leveled in a group
and we bugged bridge quest in Valley of the Storms
taking a lot of time to fix
rain dune
so it looks like the wowhead BiS covenant was changed to put Kyrian on-par with Nightfae?
ionic fern
It always more or less has been.
If you can meet the conditions of enemies standing in the AoE of AA it's better than Spear, otherwise it's not.
modern brook
Spear is also infinitely cooler
strong forum
llarold also just really likes Nightfae
novel temple
@brittle owl nope, but I’ll try again later
I even queued for a random dungeon and nothing
ionic fern
What are you even trying to do?
sweet summit
trying to see if you can block/parry/dodge while channeling necro thingy the shield
sweet summit
🤷♀️
novel temple
I can do that?
modern brook
This is why mwahi is orange and erga is yellow lol
sweet summit
tru
sweet summit
jolly thistle
I’m still at work
signal plover
hit 60 in like 7 hours last night was smooth after mald
jolly thistle
And already tired
signal plover
gunshoes and gliders carry hard
jolly thistle
coffee will carry
still pagoda
north dove
@signal plover how many stories did you finish by 60?
still pagoda
coffee will carry <:yep:703420923625078804>
i should have gone into caffeine overdose this night
But i didn't
signal plover
@north dove we finished right at 6/7 in revendreth
still pagoda
next launch for sure tho
signal plover
started skipping a bit in 2nd half of arden
north dove
Ah ok nice
still pagoda
i skipped 90% of maldraxxus side quests
signal plover
went story only after finishing the quest area where you get door of shadows for the first time
yeah up to that point it was literally just the AAP route
still pagoda
was at 60 right at the time of hitting last quest
signal plover
super chill tho
stayed on a couple hours after cap and got like 5 hours of sleep and feel solid
still pagoda
i did it really chill myself
got few hours of sleep rn myself
tbf, i should have gone with coffee this night
jolly thistle
At least I’m playing on a dead server. Queues shouldn’t be a problem when I get home
signal plover
we had a lot of raiders get stuck in mald cuz they didn't clear the mob far enough
north dove
My internet is ass and I have to share with the family, I only got to 53
still pagoda
was sleeping on the move by the end of ardenweald
modern brook
I got to 3/7 bastion before I realized I was going to kill myself if I kept doing quests like they were fun. Going back in tonight with an audio book for something to actually do
north dove
I can't decide on cove
I want to play Fury, I haven't in a long time and it feels so good
But I know my guild will want me as another M+ tank so Kyrian might be a safe choice
iron parcel
yeah im kinda in the same boat
and honestly fury without condemn and with spear feels better than prot with condemn and no spear
north dove
I'm worried about furys weak St
sweet summit
a wise man once said: just do what makes you happy - if you're good at it, you'll do fine, I promise
sweet summit
go venthyr then?
north dove
Should I flip a coin
sweet summit
ye sure
nocturne pecan
im gonna go nf, i love the cov ability
north dove
Does the kyrian potion share a cool down with warlock stone
sweet summit
nah dont think so
surreal stump
modern brook
yah the kyrian potion is a seperate health stone
narrow karma
Anyone else hanging on bastion loading screen?
rocky moth
it's maintenance right now
narrow karma
I can load org
grand drum
maintenance is done
rocky moth
oh okay, dunno then
static grotto
Is it my idea or there isnt any info for prot warrior on this discord?
where should I look for info
static grotto
nope
sweet summit
what're you looking for
static grotto
We picked Kyrian for Spear of Bastion and Phial of Serenity, Pelagos was just a solid addition.
and M+ info on tanknotes
and a 2019 mesage
static grotto
want to know wich covenant for prot warrior
wowhead says angel dudes and night fae
sweet summit
thats uhh, in the pins
still pagoda
black character screen is back
sweet summit
kyrian>=NF>necro>venthyr
still pagoda
after hour and a half of queue
static grotto
thanks
placid delta
am I missing something about kyrian? the spear feels meh compared to the stun on the night fae ability
placid delta
hmm yeah, ok I can see that
sweet summit
but if you dont have to kite and can keep the enemies inside the NF one its better than spear
strong forum
spear is guaranteed dmg and isnt hardcapped to 5 targets, AA is capped to 5 targets and enemies can run out of the area
and you get nothing out of it
placid delta
ok, primarily for M+ so mostly I'll have control of positioning, but kiting would be nice
grove invigoration doesn't work as healing does it? because you get instant 12% max health increase from the aftershock
worthy ingot
after seeing how hard AA slapped in Ardenweald it became a real decision to lock in Kyrian or not
strong forum
potion > everything else
and i like kyrian aesthetically the most
so not a hard choice for me
also spear gets more dmg through the conduit
cosmic canyon
so does AA
cosmic canyon
well, thats what I meant with more damage. sec
I think it's both rage and damage
increased, let me double check
ye
both
15 sec reduced cd flat
damage increased 32%
no rage increase afaik
still pagoda
placid delta
I feel like the stun + rage is going to give more clutch in M+, a bit like shockwave
still pagoda
let me in
still pagoda
I feel like the stun + rage is going to give more clutch in M+, a bit like shock...
AA can dish out absolutely enormous amounts of AoE
still pagoda
but overall kit of kyrian is better
placid delta
ok, yeah that's kind of what I thought but just from feeling it in the levelling zones
still pagoda
like
my average cast of AA during ardenweald leveling was 20k damage
AoE quest or go home
placid delta
longer CD on AA I guess, but still
still pagoda
aight, fuck it
i'm in the game
gonna go grab some tea, get myself in shape
and return to leveling DK and doing dailies on warri
will probably spam dungs instead of questing
civic rover
so after you level your first guy through all the zones could you just dungeon spam to 60 on your alts?
placid delta
yeah you can
civic rover
god i remember in legion where you HAD to quest every alt to 110
strong forum
strong forum
no WQs for you cucky!
strong forum
this is the classic experience ive been waitting for
north dove
Classic que times were hours lol
strong forum
well
i was in loading screen battle royale last night
for 4hrs
and now we're getting the replay
because everybody that stopped trying last night, is coming back from work and trying again
add corona into the mix, and you have the biggest wow expac launch ever going on
📈
still pagoda
add corona into the mix, and you have the biggest wow expac launch ever going on
yeah
still pagoda
and also the hardest due to corona impacting server maintenance
strong forum
well legion was over 10mil
almost every xpac launch is over 10mil
bfa was like 8 i think
and like i said, add corona into the mix, and you have the most people ever playing vidya
civic rover
but bfa bad
still pagoda
@strong forum god dced
strong forum
ye so did i
red fern
Which specc should level with?
still pagoda
^
placid delta
I levelled fury and glad I did
not much scope for aoe pulls after bastion I found, and melting 3-4 at a time was faster
placid delta
are there any numbers on rough grove invigoration stacks/uptime?
chilly brook
Could be worse
You coulda been Area52 on NA and had your realm down for pretty much the whole launch @still pagoda
still pagoda
cloud nova
What you guys think if i wanna play prot in m+ but arms in raid/pvp could use spear for safe damage and tether or ancient aftershock for higher burst, knock down and if it ticks just once it outdamages spear but generates less rage (fairly new to warrior and dunno if the rage generate is such a massive impact)
Edit: ancient aftershocks knockup apperently shouldn't be on DR with shockwave
still pagoda
@chilly brook i had zero disconnects during first 12 hours
only 2 crashes
and LOTS OF BUGS
chilly brook
I've had 0 issues
Other than having to leave a party to see the last bone boss thing in bastion
sweet summit
shouldve played on a better server :v)
ionic fern
What you guys think if i wanna play prot in m+ but arms in raid/pvp could use sp...
Both of them are solid options for Prot in M+ so i would look into which ever performs better for Arms in raids.
cloud nova
Both of them are solid options for Prot in M+ so i would look into which ever pe...
Ty i will dig something and hopefully come to my answer before i finish ravendreth 😁
chilly brook
shouldve played on a better server :v)
I mean Thrall isn't a bad server
carmine hedge
Hi all, very new warrior who has leveled up in DPS specs to 50, but curious about trying to learn protection while leveling through shadowlands. Everything I read seems to be negative about protection 😦 Read through the FAQ, but it still seems to have BFA information (Traits etc). Are mains unhappy with the state of protection?
sweet summit
nah i like it
strong forum
Na prot is 👌
carmine hedge
alright yea i made the mistake of looking online to see "viability" and got discouraged. I found arms warrior after trying out nearly every other class cuz I read so much that its pretty bad in PvE. I'll try my hand at prot too
the top tier of content i'd ever do is probably max rewards for m+ and heroic raiding tbh.
sweet summit
youll be 200% good to go as prot there mate
carmine hedge
Second question - I notice some specific WA's mentioned in the FAQ. Is there a go-to weakaura package that anyone recommends for starting out? I've just started to look through wago
sweet summit
i really love afenars class WAs, highly recommended
but thats mostly subjective, what works for you works for you
carmine hedge
awesome that one popped up. I'll try to get started w that, and then customize. Thanks for your help!
sweet summit
👌
strong forum
Kyrian
narrow karma
Any tips for the first few dungeons for when I finally get to play tonight or are they all pretty straightforward?
iron grove
Hey guys, can you point me towards something to help me decide what fraction to take? (my plan is to be prot warr with main focus on m+ content)
median badge
necrotic wake was difficult with pubbies who couldn't grasp the hook boss
sweet summit
iron grove
that is just a link to this prot channel, or am I doing something wrong?
crisp dragon
Does anyone know if we're able to get 3 renowns this week or only 2?
median badge
pick the one you enjoy, differences aren't super huge
sweet summit
2 siinson
crisp dragon
Then I can sleep after 30 hours
sweet summit
sleep well
ionic fern
Icy-Veins and WoWHead guides are both up to date with Shadowland information:
Icy-Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-guide
sweet summit
:yejoice:
open monolith
Which guide is better
ionic fern
can i ask why?
The only real competitor for Kyrian is Night Fae. Venthyr and Necrolord are lacking behind.
In general Kyrian is considered the "safer" choice due to Spear of Bastion being straight forward to use and Phial of Serenity being great.
Night Faes Ancient Aftershock CAN deal more damage and generate a lot more Rage in AoE situations but to get the maximum out of this effect you would need the enemies to stand inside the ground effect left behind the initial cast.
On single target Kyrians Spear is the better performer.
There is also the "utility" part to both of these abilities - Ancient Aftershocks knockdown effect can be extremely strong as long as enemies are standing inside the effect. Meanwhile Spears tether holds enemies in place without much thought.
still pagoda
:yejoice:
open monolith
Guide on icy veins doesnt mention covenant ability in rotation
Or I'm blind
And no Kleia love :(
Big sad
sick sentinel
Is palegos that much stronger than the NF counterpart? I've noticed that NF & kyrian seem to both be excellent in terms of ability but does palegos & phial not then put kyrian a good chunk ahead?
sick sentinel
Thats my understanding in the choice, while the two abilities are close, kyrian pulls way ahead due to this
still pagoda
Guide on icy veins doesnt mention covenant ability in rotation
it's basically on CD
or when you need to kite
open monolith
I mean, I know.
Just pointing out that the guide doesn't actually appear to be updated
open monolith
How dare people think they get to play the game instead of updating resources
still pagoda
totally normal
open monolith
Disgusting
still pagoda
playing the game
On EU realms
open monolith
Lol
open monolith
I got to Ardenweald before passing out last night
still pagoda
i passed out after getting my covenant
for 3 hours
then woke up and been waiting in the queue and disconnects
for the past 4 hours
dark basin
hey guys, you levelling through dungeons or quests? how's the gear?
still pagoda
you level your first toon through campaign and then just spam dungs on alts
no other way around
you need to complete full campaign once to unlock covenants and end-game progression
here are some resources that can help
dark basin
I'm enjoying the campaign so far, might make a point of hitting a dungeon once a night
still pagoda
i'm playing queue simulator rn
open monolith
Why would anyone level through dungeons in a brand new expac
dark basin
lol
still pagoda
Why would anyone level through dungeons in a brand new expac
on alts
main must go through campaign
due to unlock requirements
open monolith
What's it like, being unmarried / unemployed / still in highschool
median badge
I have to lvl up an alt to play with my girlfriend but I don't want more than 2 characters
open monolith
Must be nice :p
civic rover
i had all six tank specs mythic geared for two xpacs
still pagoda
What's it like, being unmarried / unemployed / still in highschool
more like not doing what is not necessary, and this expac you can do 15 minutes of stygia dailies
civic rover
plan on doing the same thing for SL
still pagoda
and everything else is in weekly quests
median badge
what is a stygia daily
uneven mason
SOmeone else agreed to cover the "buffing" melee spots (WW and DH) I get to warrior 👏
still pagoda
and later on for sockets
civic rover
alchemy is bis profession
open monolith
It felt wrong
civic rover
most profit, most convenience
still pagoda
alch/BS on warrior
Herb/Mining on DK
Inscription/Enchanting on pala
yet to level up alts because i'm playing queue simulator instead
open monolith
There's a..... Really exploity feeling spot for herbs
still pagoda
just as always
civic rover
i just go alch on whatever tank i plan on playing most
still pagoda
having early gathering profs is always great
civic rover
so bear is alch
open monolith
I got like 2 stacks of herbs and half a stack of the rare herb in 15 minutes
steel mauve
malganis has been good, no problems logging in so far since launch
solar crown
EU-kazzak is fun, it takes 20s to pick something up (y)
still pagoda
still pagoda
EU-kazzak is fun, it takes 20s to pick something up (y)
^
still pagoda
login says eu draenor has issues
i've been sitting in queue for last 4 hours there
open monolith
Imagine not playing on US-Thrall
solar crown
there we go, got logged out of the server x]
still pagoda
median badge
don't forget to vote
solar crown
Feels like 'blizzard realm status' is just taunting me
median badge
yeah I should've stayed on my shitcan dead realm for shadowlands tbh
median badge
was on defias brotherhood
ionic fern
Argent Dawn.
still pagoda
back when i was on alli
median badge
did a dungeon with a guy from argent dawn who roleplayed not healing me because I was polymorphed into an orc
ionic fern
did a dungeon with a guy from argent dawn who roleplayed not healing me because ...
This is why we like AD.
still pagoda
just with really shitty datacenter
ionic fern
I'm roleplaying being a theorycrafter.
still pagoda
median badge
you seem very immersed
sweet summit
👀
still pagoda
Maximum immersion Mwahi
ionic fern
Jeah, i got so into the role and now i'm afraid to say anything.
median badge
its the worst feeling to just endlessly try to log on while the server is down I should really go do something productive
exotic spoke
Mwahi is a qtpie
ionic fern
Hei Riki, long time.:D
exotic spoke
Yeah, been busy. But things are calming down just in time for shadowlands and Im excited.
ionic fern
Which class did you end up going?
sweet summit
riki what covenant do i take
ionic fern
exotic spoke
Going to messs aroudn with night fae in M+ but probably still go kyrian
lucid dew
how are the defenisve trinkets from last two raid bosses looking
uneven mason
I mean
still pagoda
exotic spoke
I mean haste was defensive lol
sweet summit
im doing my best on the APL :(
uneven mason
Isn't it "Does have 100% SB uptime?" is no > Haste; is yes > 🤘 🤯
ionic fern
im doing my best on the APL :(
are you playing right now?
sweet summit
yeah 👀
ionic fern
uneven mason
😟
still pagoda
I mean haste was defensive lol
and offensive
and everything
and QoL
and still is
more haste more goodies
ionic fern
Still is indeed.
exotic spoke
I mean yeah, I'm jsut saying people with that mindset are very out of date. All of the stats have defensive benefits now
still pagoda
@strong forum https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/619677814299557910/780862024753610852/Enm3BSoXYAQL0LG.png
i'm in suka blyat
silk edge
Havn’t had the chance to play much yet, do i need to read guides/informations on what to do max level to be the more efficient ? Or is it roughly natural understood while playing ?
I am talking legendary craft and such
steady fiber
Hi all, got question in terms of profession? If i get it right Engi now is shit for prot, nothing decent, so it's better to reroll to BS?
astral crystal
I turned it up in revendreth because you hit 60 on the first few quests
astral crystal
Hi all, got question in terms of profession? If i get it right Engi now is shit ...
Go gathering, craftables are kinda bad right now
And cheap
Aside from the legendary base of course, which will probably get cheaper in the coming weeks
silk edge
I would recommend installing AAP
Thx, i’ll check it out
astral crystal
Thx, i’ll check it out
Oops, I meant turned it OFF early in revendreth
timber nest
dudes, whats the bare minimimum i should be doing if im leveling alts? like hit 60, then do x and y and then move to the next toon
astral crystal
Renown, torghast, rep and anima are relatively useless
sick sentinel
Got a bonus loot bag for being a tank in a random dungeon. Can't open it. Anyone else had the same problem?
which cov did everyone go with
kyrian?
ionic fern
Still leveling. 👀
solar crown
would go kyrian if blizzard made the game playable for me
still pagoda
gone kyrian on warri and venthyr on DK
lucid dew
anyone else getting booting right when loggin in
signal plover
Mmm baby one of the shields dropped for me #blessedKyrian
humble sentinel
How trash is venthyr I'm an arms Warr with prot offspec
strong forum
not the worst
is aight for raid
and you can still do any content you want to do, its just not optimal for prot in m+
strong forum
it is
charred fable
kyrian still our best choice for prot?
strong forum
young glen
Darkmoon any sort of good for us?
strong forum
the darkmoon tank trinket is hot fucking garbage
spice garnet
better than cold garbage i suppose
strong forum
i wouldnt bother
Nzoth trinket is better
by 200%
and thats an entire expac old 🙂
tropic cobalt
Freaking hate we have to go Kyrian.. Puts me off tanking.
strong forum
you dont have to though
its just a slight optimisation
nightfae is great
venthyr is okay
only necro i would stay away from
tropic cobalt
Necro i want. But its shit for allmpst all classes. Who dosnt want to be the best they can be?
Thinking goin Venthyr. Will be okay for all 3 specs i guess.
strong forum
venthyr is best for 2 specs
for tanking its not crucial to have the best covenant
outside of WF content
honest plinth
fucking leggo memories are not 100% drop?
honest plinth
jeez gonna spam it for tgv 😦
pliant rock
Whats our stat priority bois?
strong forum
ilvl >> haste >crit=vers
strong forum
or that ye
pliant rock
HASTEEEE heard thank you!
atomic monolith
hello ppl
what is the best covenant and stas for us in shadowlands?
thanks in advance!
hollow ice
Hey guys, hope this isnt off topic here 😄 should i focus on makying my selfheal better or its good? Peace
strong forum
typically ignore pain should be above Indomitable
but youre doing baby content so you dont need to use IP as often
its also irrelevant to focus on healing meter
since we're not a selfhealing tank, we're a mitigation tank
ionic fern
@atomic monolith Kyrian/Night Fae. Ilvl>>haste. For more in depth answers take a look at the guides in pins.
hollow ice
since we're not a selfhealing tank, we're a mitigation tank
true, was just a thought. thinking about helping the healer a bit ;D
steel mauve
if you want to help the healer you're not exactly playing the tank to do it using self healing, better off focusing on lowering damage intake than healing it back up as a prot war
atomic monolith
thank you!
pliant narwhal
which pact should i take for mplus? nightfea?
strong forum
kyrian
pliant narwhal
is this also good in the raids?
atomic monolith
what about main tank in raiding?
strong forum
kyrian
atomic monolith
just for the spear?
strong forum
for the potion and the soulbinds
strong forum
yes kyrian is also best for pvp
atomic monolith
but dman maldraxius stuff looks so much better
guess it fits the warrior theme
while i have your attention
what are all these rumours about warrior tank being so bad atm?
are they true?
strong forum
those rumours are from several months ago
they hold absolutely no truth anymore
and even back then they (rumours) were iffy
everybody that actually mains tank and isnt biased and is actually good at the game, will tell you that prot warri is just fine
sharp steeple
Anyone else that didn't get the spear when joining kyrians?
timber nest
ilevel still better than the socket for weapons? im assuming yes
strong forum
yes
you want the weapon dmg off of weapons
sockets and secondary stats play no matter
torpid granite
hows prot feeling?
strong forum
"weapon dmg off of weapons"
torpid granite
seemed super slow levelin
strong forum
prot is very 👌
atomic monolith
its my first time tanking in 14 years lol
10 of warrior
what do you mean with ilvl > haste?
what if the item has no haste ?
strong forum
item level is more important than stats
yes
even if it doesnt have haste, you want to equip the highest itemlevel piece you can
atomic monolith
but is that a fresh exp thing or will it be like that well into the expansion?
strong forum
all expansion long
atomic monolith
cause of the main stats boost
well ill be damned
the game is even more simple now
who cares about stats prio? just equip it!
strong forum
thats the goal of blizzard
the thing is, defensively all stats are good for us, especially strength and stamina
thats why ilvl is so important
offensively, things change
atomic monolith
what specc did u lvl up?
strong forum
tank
atomic monolith
no way jose
strong forum
i can pull 10 mobs at a time