protection

[fringe mural]

stamina gets more important if you can get oneshot by stuff

[lofty warren]

Maybe for big giant pulls you want the extra tankiness or like pull 1 AA you want to do it all in 1 pull and not site and you dont have aug

[lone turret]

if you're dying you should have SW up

[lusty grotto]

you dont need LS for that

[fringe mural]

you use bsv for that

on purpose

you pull them all and live through it with bsv while the first lasher dies

[lofty warren]

Agree dont need it. But it can help

[lusty grotto]

i guarantee it wont

not for you

[plush tendon]

idk, to me since LS happens only during your major CD, its value is really low

Id rather take the extra rage gen and bump up Indom for a tankiness floor

[lusty grotto]

its fine if you want to talent it pepega

but it most def is overvalued

[fringe mural]

he wants your blessing

just give it to him

😄

[harsh trellis]

Whatever helps getting the key timed

[lusty grotto]

anything under a 20 that picks it is overvaluing it

[lofty warren]

Wonder how these guys are taking tan and last stand

[fringe mural]

that is not a player

[plush tendon]

I feel like youd be better served by looking at the builds the top warriors are playing

rather then what the aggregate is

[fringe mural]

the player with those talents doesn't exist

[harsh trellis]

Just look at raider io

[lofty warren]

Look if tan is 90% used and ls is 40% used that means that at least 30% of the time someone is using tan and ls same time.. right?

[harsh trellis]

Look at sense look at bobas

[lusty grotto]

yes look at their key level

[plush tendon]

this build is cursed

[harsh trellis]

See what those guys are running for the 20s you're trying to run

[plush tendon]

"need rage gen talents for Indom!" "well I aint gonna run indom, so no rage talents! "

[lusty grotto]

a lot of you seem to not understand that by the time you hit 18s, you'll have a 30 ilvl bump over the people that first did 18s

so the talents they pick

are basically pointless

[plush tendon]

this is very true

[harsh trellis]

I just look at recent runs

[lusty grotto]

no ty

i dont need to

but yeah go ahead pepega

[lofty warren]

Booba using tan and fv without ea

No frothing either

[plush tendon]

no last stand either

[harsh trellis]

Hes also doing 21s

[plush tendon]

[lofty warren]

Why would you ever use fv instead of ea?

[plush tendon]

if you didnt math it

3% prim stat sounds better then 2% secondary

[fringe mural]

i think i will prioritize crit more heavily now

1% parry is more dr than 1% dr

way more

[plush tendon]

I just follow the sim

currently mastery sims highest for me

then vers

[fringe mural]

i like to play as chill as possible and not aim for max dps, and max dr did that for me all the time

i know all stats have defensive value

[plush tendon]

Gross wants to be parrygodx

[fringe mural]

yiss

and i will go to pit to get my crit gear!

[harsh trellis]

Killed mythic dragons last night. Not that bad of a fight at all

[plush tendon]

Most of the voidspire fights are quite easy now

[fringe mural]

i played a def-rating turtle tank in bc and i was taking so little dmg it was great

that changed me

i know times have changed

i didnt

[dusty orchid]

Well, at least dps won't pull off you with that mentality anymore

[fringe mural]

true

that was a pita

[dusty orchid]

Our warrior tank did that and we went to enrage timers most fights 😞

[fringe mural]

lol

in what season?

[plush tendon]

TBC tanking is pretty miserable

[dusty orchid]

Uh hyjal tier

[fringe mural]

i loved it, but i was 20

[plush tendon]

the gearing is somewhat fun trying to balance threat and defense

[fringe mural]

i also loved zul aman

[plush tendon]

but there is very little skill expression

[lofty warren]

Found sense wcl. Last stand with no ea and no tan. Isnt he like the worlds best war?

[fringe mural]

the og one

[plush tendon]

Im just waiting for Wrath to pick up my Anniversary Paladin again

[fringe mural]

except in shattered halls

tanking shattered halls as prot was a special experience

[dusty orchid]

What key level is that run?

[lusty grotto]

He's doing key levels that you will never hit

[plush tendon]

I played Paladin in TBC

[lofty warren]

Its a 21

[plush tendon]

first go around I played War, but it was miserable

[dusty orchid]

Tbc prot pal is so much fun

[plush tendon]

Pal is much more fun

[fringe mural]

keeping aggro on multiple mobs was hard if your dps were good

with warrior

[plush tendon]

but SH is really not a tank dungeon; the only reason why you want Pal is cause mage is OP in TBC heroics

and only Paladin can maximize the potential

especially in SH

[fringe mural]

iirc a lot of warrior tanks lost aggro on the groups in sh

[plush tendon]

you grab a Prot Pal, a frost mage

then you are g2g

[plush tendon]

it doesnt matter

you jsut need to get initial threat, get em somewhat group

and let the mages blizzard

[lofty warren]

Why would sense doing a "push key" be any different than me doing a "push key"? In both cases we are taking more damage than we did on lower key level

[plush tendon]

while you run around in circles

and drop concs

[lusty grotto]

Alright let's keep classic discussion on the classic channels

[lofty warren]

Saying his route is different?

[naive ravine]

The mobs in his run will kill him when playing good

The mobs in your run peoega will not kill you

[lusty grotto]

Stop baiting, no you're not, you're several ilvls higher than they were when they did the same key

So is your entire group

[cerulean tusk]

Rat got Pepega'd

[dusty orchid]

Because your damage intake is much lower because of the key difference. He needs to build defensive because the same attacks that will half your hp will outright kill him - you do not, and having those crutches will make learning what hits that hard take longer

[lofty warren]

My pwar is only 284 and that sense log is all 289s

[lusty grotto]

when they did the same key level

[lofty warren]

Ohh yea when he was doing lower i can agree

[lusty grotto]

And of course they'll take more damage on a key that's 5 times higher than yours at this exact point in time

[lofty warren]

But he has, lets say 20% better brian power

[naive ravine]

Okay thats a non factor

[harsh trellis]

What's your toon pepega?

[naive ravine]

Fatmaneat

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/fatmaneat?zone=47

[lofty warren]

The way I look at it is below, what would I be missing

"sense did 21 with more defensive talents. Im going to try my 17 to get more io. I get that I'll be taking less damage bc its a lower level but using the defensive build helps cover for mistake I or my healer makes and it's not like we are missing dps, we are failing key if ppl die"

[fringe mural]

do you have a smart certificate? maybe you can ask sense for his and you guys can compare

pepega, nim literally said you can take that build

[fringe mural]

you just don't have to

sense HAD TO, because otherwise he would've died no matter his skill

now with higher gear the talents are not remotely as important to not dying

[lofty warren]

Makes sense. Ill import both builds so I can swap em

[fringe mural]

perfect, i'll get groceries now

and later i will get my crit pieces for the max crit build

erm parry

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

i did my first 17 FIVE WEEKS AGO at 274 ilvl with ONLY BSV

i am not even close to Sense god status

youre 281

[fringe mural]

lolwhut? how did he manage to only have 281

i dont even run keys...

[lofty warren]

Well i didnt do any pwar for 2 weeks I bet I would have done all 17s by now if I stuck with

[fringe mural]

or almost none

[lusty grotto]

and youre looking to talent into a bunch of shit cause you think it has a bigger impact than a whole 7 ilvls worth of gear

not to mention your entire group will be high ilvl as well

[plush tendon]

quite frankly, you can prob run whatever talents in a 17

and be fine

thats a gameplay check key level

[lusty grotto]

look at this shit

[plush tendon]

I know that ret paladin and shadow priest

[fringe mural]

lol he picked 4/4 apex what a newb

[lusty grotto]

x2

also that's @sharp gale 's favorite mage

[lofty warren]

Is that the tanky trink from sky?

[lusty grotto]

yes

that guy

[fluid atlas]

guys the guides are poor, is there any reason to not stack your shield block uses right away and does the duration go beyond 24 seconds?

[lusty grotto]

you should be using icy veins guide

not wowhead

it caps at 3x duration

[fluid atlas]

ok thanks does icy veins have stuff about more advanced aspects of tanking like cd use etc

[lusty grotto]

thats a very broad question

[naive ravine]

Isnt that same for all tanks

Should probably watch a guide on youtube

[lusty grotto]

and that pretty much

[fluid atlas]

idk is there like a generalist tanking guide

i want to know if i always wanna blow a shield wall on an initial pull if im at 2 charges or wait

[naive ravine]

Kira, Naohw are big tank guys

[plush tendon]

using a Wall while gathering is a good idea

[lusty grotto]

you should not hold walls, they have CDR with rage use due to Anger Management

manage rage correctly and youll have a wall every ~50 seconds

[plush tendon]

on pull/during gathers tanks are generally fairly vulnerable

[lofty warren]

Today on AA i wasn't really kiting on pull 1 and my stacks went to 0 a number of times. I didnt have aug and was with hpal. Do hpals have ability to remove or was I kiting without realizing?

[lusty grotto]

and this is how you manage rage correctly: #protection message

[plush tendon]

lucky parrys

[fluid atlas]

and also stuff like going through all the talents and what is worth some times picking over which other talents and this kind of thing

[plush tendon]

or maybe some good micro movements

[lusty grotto]

you cant parry pull 1 lasher bleeds

they are casts

[lusty grotto]

use the talents recommended on icy veins

only if youre pushing high, we can help out with swaps

but we wouldn't recommend swapping anything for keys under 18s

[plush tendon]

yea, for just starting out

the IV build is perfect

the most important thing when first learning to tank is the gameplay

[naive ravine]

Idk even 19 felt pretty free, could have been cuz it was a MT

[lusty grotto]

[plush tendon]

when I talk to my friends who are pushing into 21/22

they feel like 20 and below are quite free

with all the gear thats been given

[naive ravine]

Its probably cuz of the additional ilvl gain over the past weeks

[plush tendon]

yea, I level plus good game knowledge/gameplay

[fluid atlas]

im learning so is tough as nails better than bs veteran or indom? i dont think it helps with me surviving when im still fumbling my buttons etc

[naive ravine]

For fun pugging 15 on my alt tanks was horrible

[plush tendon]

if you want to take BSV just to feel 'safe', id drop bloodsurge

Indom I wouldnt take; at your level, it prob wont help that much

[naive ravine]

BSV could enable bad habbits while learning tho

Taking BSV so you can play worse and still survive is no bueno

[lofty warren]

This is probably something I should already know but im gonna ask anyway. If you get tc reset right before your avatar becomes available should you spend your available tc and then cast avatar or just press avatar + dont get full value from tc refresh when going into avatar?

[fluid atlas]

im like decently geared at 287 i just dont now what im doing and have no muscle memory, so my focus is on trying to do the route right and keep sb up. sometimes i screw up and it gets a bit hairy even in low keys. so im really looking for something that explains exactly this stuff like what talent is important for rage gen and shouldnt be dropped and what is a flex point and so on

[plush tendon]

true, but also a big deterrent for people playing tank is the fear of screwing up. Having a 'saftey net' give some comfort

[naive ravine]

You are doing it in the wrong order

You copy the icy veins build and start training

When you have played some time and start to understand the class flow u can start changing talents up

[tawdry herald]

yeah ignore talents completely

[plush tendon]

[fringe mural]

Isn't that true for most aspects of life?

[lofty warren]

Should you use your available tb before pressing avatar or just press avatar as soon as available always?

[fringe mural]

fear of screwing up keeping you from stuff

[tawdry herald]

getting to 287 and not knowing your routes/cd timings/sb uptime is like getting a job after lying about your credentials in the interview

you need to finish school first before you can worry about talents

[naive ravine]

2 stacks of TB > SS so you could assume that losing a stack of TB is worse then losing a SS

[lusty grotto]

drop Focused Vigor for Battle-Scarred, and thats it, dont do indom

[fluid atlas]

i play fury but thank you for the condescending reply, much appreciated

[fringe mural]

lol

[tawdry herald]

i wasnt being condescending, its how you phrased it lmao

but grats on your spec swap

still need to put in time

[lusty grotto]

if you do that BSV swap, you should log and make sure you understand whats triggering BSV to improve

this is very important

[fluid atlas]

thank u

[fringe mural]

monitor the bsv debuff in your cdm

[lusty grotto]

yes

[fringe mural]

so you see when you fucked up

[undone beacon]

are we still talking about this

[fringe mural]

or when you actually triggered it on purpose which is the best way of using it

[lusty grotto]

no, we're helping a new guy pash

[lofty warren]

So if you have 2 tb and avatar available you should spend 2 gcds on tb before avatar. Thx

[undone beacon]

Oh okay cool

[lusty grotto]

lol pepega...

do you have enough haste for TB cd to reset in time for the gcd?

[lofty warren]

No

[lusty grotto]

then...

what will you do?

[naive ravine]

Thats not what you asked

[fast nexus]

BIG POST APOLOGIES, but I did some research on this whole durability damage taken issue that Prot War seems to have the worst right now, which amounts to stupid high repair bills for no reason and I've done it over the course of a few MT +10 runs. BEFORE READING FURTHER: assume that this data has a lot of variables that aren't 100% consistent so if someone can do a better job than me feel free, but I'll post what I found out.

• So far my sample size is 4 because I wanted to do 2 approaches to figure out just wtf is making such a big difference and it's literally: How many times you press Shield Block.

Best and my worst example so far, there's obviously variables to this issue but I tested it in MT +10, same exact pulls (picked it because it's got a lot of mobs in clumps) and with 2 very similar clear times (diff was like 20 seconds). Funnily enough, in my worse example, our dps was -better-, which means stuff died faster, which means conclusions are even more extreme than what I noticed.

• The 66.67% durability loss at the end of the run was my fastest, in which I purposely kept Shield Block on cooldown (you're likely to do this in high keys anyway)
• The 81.67% was when I pressed it only twice, on accident, at the beginning of the dungeon, when there's a 5 mob pack pull, so in a perfect world, the numbers on this would be less. (higher percentage)

Funnily enough, the Shield Block procs you get from popping Shield Charge do not seem to have this durability bug (or feature) at all, so they are 'free' casts that don't come with a button gold cost (you don't see your durability live dropping midpull). Which according to these numbers in 30%~. Also, it seems to affect other pieces of gear as well, not just shield.

TL;DR - if you a broke boy, don't play Prot Warrior.

[lusty grotto]

oh god

not this shit again

[naive ravine]

Its fixed in .7

[lofty warren]

"Should you use your available tb before pressing avatar or just press avatar as soon as available always?"

Sounds like you're saying always press avatar if available. To hell with whether you have any tbs available

[undone beacon]

[lament osprey]

What’s the tldr

[tawdry herald]

fr didnt they just say theyre fixing weapon/shield durability so its not lost at all except on death?

[lament osprey]

Big post mean nothing

[undone beacon]

Big post irrelevant in .7

[naive ravine]

Man why do I even try to reason with pepega

[undone beacon]

[lusty grotto]

apparently SC sb does not contribute to durability

thats the tl;dr

but this is such a non issue

[lament osprey]

Thank you both

[lofty warren]

Bro its a real question idk why can't get real answer 🙁

[lusty grotto]

straight from reddit, that apparently dont know every. single. season. we get people bitching about dura amounts

[fast nexus]

It's the warrior discord, you just get jaded sad people here unfortunately.

[naive ravine]

You you dont delay avatar for to long you can spend a TB charge

[fast nexus]

Choose to read it or not, I posted it because I wanted to share what I found out. dgaf if you consider it valid or not, someone might.

[tawdry herald]

well... theyre fixing it

so you can rest easy

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[naive ravine]

Yeach funny, in patch .7 its over anyways

[undone beacon]

I mean its cool to do the science but they also just announced in the .7 weapons and shields no longer take durability from combat

[lofty warren]

"You sont delay avatar for to long you can spend a tb charge" - sounds like if you have 2 tbs and avatar then spend 1 on tb and then avatar. Got it ty

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/it-aint-that-deep-what-over-thinking-looks-like

[naive ravine]

👍

[lofty warren]

This says avatar gives you 2x tbs so why would you only want to press it once before resetting?

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ

[fringe mural]

Haha

Minor optimizations, minor optimizations everywhere

[tribal wharf]

spend TB to get more dmg on SS, and then to have chance to get TB again for more SS dmg again.

[fringe mural]

Are you really often in a situation where you wait like a hawk for avatar to be ready again so you press it RIGHT the moment it gets ready again?

just use tb and then throw avatar wtf

[tribal wharf]

avatar of storm simply gives you 2 more to spend activating avatar

[lusty grotto]

this is why i think pepega asks this because he has a combat botter

[fringe mural]

lmao

Oh while we're at it

does pressing avatar while avatar is up add your avatar to the existing avatar?

[lofty warren]

I have basically always pressed avatar as soon as available no matter what and today I noticed that I still had tb available when it got reset and thought "i wonder if that is correct"

[lofty warren]

Want me to link my 98 heroic parses again

[naive ravine]

Dont delay avatar for to long is the only thing u need to know

[lusty grotto]

you dont wanna min max avatar RNG proc

[fringe mural]

Pepega everytime avatar has 2 seconds cd left

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[naive ravine]

Anything below 99 parse in hc is mediocre at best

[lusty grotto]

your TC/TB extends it, and thats good enough

[fringe mural]

ready to press it

[fringe mural]

I don't wanna min max it, just curious if it makes sense to hold avatar until the proc is done

[lusty grotto]

no

[lofty warren]

If you wanted to do the best and most correct thing, would you use up your available tb procs before using avatar and getting 2 more?

Holding avatar bad i get but also munching tb casts is too so im really not sure. What 100% doesnt make sense yo me is only wanting to use 1 tb proc before avatar (if youre in a spot with 2 available and avatar at the same time)

[lusty grotto]

you hold cds for only one reason: to align with other damage amps/buffs within a reasonable amount of time, which is single digit seconds at best -- on a very scripted encounter, you should know the timeline, and when to hold and send, this is not really a tank thing, its DPS 101. Use lorggs

[naive ravine]

Then go and learn how to write your own api (apl?)

Then you can check what is the right play

[lofty warren]

Say there are no damage amps or alignment considerations. You got lucky and have 2 tbs available right as avatar cd goes to 0. What actions you take?

[lusty grotto]

im not gonna answer that

work calls

[lofty warren]

Ffs

[lofty warren]

Apl (action prioriry list) api is an interface that lets computers talk to eat other

[naive ravine]

Yeah do that

And then you will 100% know

[lofty warren]

Well icy veins says avatar is your favorite and top ability which would mean that if its available then it should be touched regardless of your tb availability

[harsh trellis]

Sounds good do that

[fringe mural]

if you want to math it out, it's not that hard

[lofty warren]

You have to compare the value lost from avatar uptime to the value gained by pressing available tbs

[fringe mural]

if you hold avatar for a global you lose all the benefits it gives you, add that up and compare it to the lost thunderblast surplus over another cast

[lofty warren]

And factor for rng procs if you press avatar right away and then get more procs

[harsh trellis]

I hate to feed the attention but I dont think about half that shit

[fringe mural]

you do that

I won't

i'm a math teacher and i don't spend my time with that, i use apl's from icy veins

i'm also not 20 anymore and i know i will delay avatar simply because my reaction time isnt perfect

so using it in the exact right moment is not something i will ever achieve

[naive ravine]

You can just calculate those thing easy, you need to see the grand sheme if things, the esiest is to go and write an apl

[lusty grotto]

ok im back

[fringe mural]

it's a global with a 30% haste buff

who cares

[lusty grotto]

if youre sitting on 2 TB charges, youre doing something very wrong

and the hypothetical is so absurd that its really not worth considering

[fringe mural]

a global with flask is less than a second

Just use it in the next

it's way more important to not waste the avatar use when the group is about to die

for example

[lusty grotto]

1 TB -> weave Avatar offgcd -> TB is totally fine

[naive ravine]

Hold avatar for raid wipe

Got it

[lofty warren]

Ok fine. You just started your gcd and get a tb proc right as avatar becomes available. Wait for the gcd to end so you can use tb or avatar right away

[lusty grotto]

2 TB is not a realistic scenario

[lofty warren]

You answered earlier tt

Ty

[fringe mural]

that would be my first approach

tb highlights, press it, oh avatar is ready, press it

[harsh trellis]

Yep

[lusty grotto]

thats basically it

[fringe mural]

then press tb again

[harsh trellis]

Well weave the ss in

[fringe mural]

ah you said that nvm

[harsh trellis]

But yeah

[fringe mural]

not weaving ss in with 2 tb stacks from avatar

[harsh trellis]

Im doing it every time

[lofty warren]

If you press your one tb and that itself procs a tb you dont wait for gcd and just send avatar

[fringe mural]

yeah because fuck it 😄

see what did you gain if the delay of avatar pushes the final avatar seconds into empty running

[naive ravine]

Why you repeating man

I thought with that it was done

[fringe mural]

it is never done

with the big brain green pepe

[lofty warren]

Just getting it clear in my head. Its all done im clear on what is correct ty

[naive ravine]

[harsh trellis]

Till tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/guy-pearce-i-dont-remember-memories-gif-11804859

[fringe mural]

There's a very important rule intelligent people have to learn in life

Do not overthink it

It is hard i know

From a lot of bad experiences

do not do it

your focus on delaying avatar is 100% better spent elsewhere

that is not muscle memory so it preys off your concentration

[lusty grotto]

perfection is the enemy of progress, and overthinking is a trait of perfectionism

[naive ravine]

Loud music helps

[fringe mural]

and as the great philosopher shia labeouf said

[sharp gale]

I like loud music

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[lusty grotto]

same

[harsh trellis]

Yeah but not that focus music shit

[lusty grotto]

samesies

[naive ravine]

Lil peep

Ftw

[lusty grotto]

i cant do shit with chill vibe music or w/e

[fringe mural]

i listen to skyrim background music when grading exams

with rain

[lusty grotto]

i just blast the loudest and/or fastest shit into my ears and i get shit done

[fringe mural]

but i'm more of an autism guy and not an adhd guy

[harsh trellis]

That's what I listen to

[sharp gale]

Yeah I’m blasting Russian hardstyle when I raid

[naive ravine]

Deutscher krach

[plush tendon]

I watched all of My Hero Academia during Lura prog

[naive ravine]

Chefs kiss

[plush tendon]

[fringe mural]

yeah music like that is adhd gold

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld-2

[harsh trellis]

Isochronic tones is annoying af

[fringe mural]

Dafuq is my hero academia

[lusty grotto]

japanese cartoon time

[plush tendon]

anime

duh

[lusty grotto]

seinfeld-leaves.gif

[plush tendon]

at least crunchyroll doesnt give me 2 minutes of ads randomly

[naive ravine]

Every heard of adblockers?

[fringe mural]

i'm coming with you

[undone beacon]

I've had Maybe I'm The Reason by Dev Lemons stuck in my head for a few days

[fringe mural]

Miss me with that

[undone beacon]

Great lil song

[plush tendon]

my GF has the streaming services

still, the ads are rediculous

[sharp gale]

I listen music with ads

[limpid ruin]

Is that why you missed those taunts?

[plush tendon]

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[undone beacon]

wow

outed

[sharp gale]

I would need to pay Spotify and SoundCloud to be ad free, not worth the amount

[fringe mural]

Just right in the drumline there goes 'how old is your dad? Tai chi will help him get into shape in two months'

[sharp gale]

90% of the ads is : « are you annoyed by having ads while you listen music ? Pay NOW »

[fringe mural]

ads have gotten so utterly utterly dumb

[plush tendon]

mostly wasnt keeping good track of it

[fringe mural]

They don't even make catchy jingles

[plush tendon]

once I got the meekaura working for it, it was easier

[harsh trellis]

Most of the ads are the new piece of shit gamer chair

[plush tendon]

[naive ravine]

Might aswell just download the songs then

[sharp gale]

It’s been some months since I got a real ad on SoundCloud or Spotify

[fringe mural]

When all that matters is posture anyways

[harsh trellis]

Nope

[fringe mural]

i use a markus from ikea since 2005?

[harsh trellis]

You need a hydraulic battery powered back press

A fan

A fart sucker

[fringe mural]

Very important

[harsh trellis]

Lol

[fringe mural]

you guys really

[plush tendon]

I pay for spotify with no adds

I spend enough time in the car listening to music

[fringe mural]

didn't have a good time like that on a discord in a long time

[plush tendon]

100% worth

[fringe mural]

keep it up

need to make dinner for the kids now

[fringe mural]

perfection

[naive ravine]

Lets start talking about the politics in germany

[fringe mural]

oh please no

[lofty warren]

I watched yt videos talking about afd.

[naive ravine]

From that info channel

What was its english name

[fringe mural]

well those are the people the tai chi ads are for

[naive ravine]

Kurzgesagt?

In a nutshell

[fringe mural]

all you gotta know is

We have elections in 2029

[sharp gale]

I don’t have access to student 5€ price anymore, 13€ is too much for my mental

[lofty warren]

Actually I think it was something mainstream like nbc https://youtu.be/s-uAGd2qcg0?si=ZA-y6aG08UgII7Jm

[fringe mural]

and we plan to build the EUs biggest military

If the afd wins 2029

get ready

[naive ravine]

Im not gonna be part of that, will just go where the next best internet is

[plush tendon]

no politics in Skyhold chat

[fringe mural]

Literally everywhere

[naive ravine]

Its #protection so its not in the "skyhold" chat

[fringe mural]

i think even bangladesh has better internet

[naive ravine]

[naive ravine]

[lofty warren]

Its one thing to see a video about it but what do you euros think of it

[naive ravine]

We should rly not start this debate here

There are strong opinions on this matter everywhere and it can get heated real quick

[fringe mural]

pepega, on every discord there's mods that strike down any reasonable political debate really quickly, just don't

if you want to do that, do it on your own discord with friends you know can discuss objectively for the most part

[sharp gale]

Idk what nbc is

[fringe mural]

i had that happen on a lot of servers, in fear of things going a little heated, they just club it down

[plush tendon]

[lofty warren]

Nbc is a news channel I thought they were all over the world but I guess not. I dont know or think they have bias but maybe who knows. Ok I get not wanting to share your thoughts on it for reasons. Tbh I think there's usually a healthy balance somewhere in the middle but I have basically zero detailed knowledge on euro stuff

[fringe mural]

an extreme example was eve

you had russians on the eve server in a russian alliance and you had western alliances and when they went to war ingame oh boy

after 2021 it was over being non-political

[lofty warren]

[fringe mural]

We also had a ukrainian group ingame that would hunt all the russian players with a fury unmatched

[sharp gale]

Okok we have own national news, American news companies doesn’t exist here, and I have no big thoughts, I don’t vote, I play wow idc

[fringe mural]

Games with players from all over the world are never not political except for the people that close their eyes and yell 'it's just a game leave me alone with your real world problems'

you can still discuss in a civil manner it's just not accepted by discord mods

so again, don't do it

[naive ravine]

I mena you porbably could talk about history and what it has told us europeans

[plush tendon]

NBC is more specialized to an American audience; CNN would prob be the American news network with some global reach

[fringe mural]

you can talk about lots of stuff with decent people

even controverse stuff

i think there's nbc europe

But that's more gb tv

[plush tendon]

Regardless, I think the Western news network with the most global reach is prob the BBC

[fringe mural]

yeah agreed

[naive ravine]

Big black

Clock

?

[fringe mural]

Yes

That's what it means

[naive ravine]

Never heard of it

[fringe mural]

there's also BBC Europe

iirc

[lofty warren]

Britain big ⏰️

[plush tendon]

I get my news from the BBC

[sharp gale]

I would agree

[plush tendon]

though I was also one of those kids who parents watched PBS as their primary news source

[sharp gale]

BBC is the widespread news

It’s British right ?

[plush tendon]

yea

[naive ravine]

I get my infos from select hand picked trustworthy idependanr reporters

From tiktok and other social media platforms

[sharp gale]

I know the name of CNN but it’s bc of the current president, never heard of it before

[plush tendon]

CNN is the big American network and it does have reach globally

[sharp gale]

French news mostly refers to New York Times or Washington post (I suppose they are news from those cities smh)

[plush tendon]

Newspaper

[lofty warren]

I've watched dw news i think thats the polish news network

[sharp gale]

DW is German

[plush tendon]

they dont run a news channel, but we have a lot of newspapers in the states

The New York Times is prob the most famous

next to the Wall Street Journal

[sharp gale]

DW is German public / international media

[harsh trellis]

I only trust Facebook for news.

That's where all the world's scientists and scholars hang out

[lofty warren]

Alex Jones is my only news source

[sharp gale]

lmao

[plush tendon]

I do get some good news stuff from youtube

[sharp gale]

I don’t fully grasp what he did but I appreciate the character

[lofty warren]

The lizard people are watching so dont get to testy

[plush tendon]

I like warfronts for some news on stuff happening overseas

[naive ravine]

Marcant

[sharp gale]

When I want news I open google news, that’s it

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-hmm-gif-3699486647852911816

[fluid atlas]

what's the basis for into the fray vs heavy repercussions? i see that high rated players are running both talents

[undone beacon]

i feed the front page of reddit and the feed from twitter and a couple burner facebook accounts and sometimes youtube homepage into an AI and let it summarize the most accurate nonpartisan news

[naive ravine]

How much haste you have

[sharp gale]

^

[naive ravine]

How good you are

[undone beacon]

Haste value. Less than 1188 haste runs HR to get maximized SB uptime. ITF is more damage and value but harder to manage shield block uptime, mitigated with more raw haste

[plush tendon]

HR will give you near 100% SB uptime with very little thought. ITF is more damage, but you have to manage SB more closely

[fluid atlas]

ok

cool thanks

[sharp gale]

AI is my boomer thing

I have others like ordering food deliveries

I never ordered uber eats or DoorDash

[undone beacon]

I dont use food delivery services either

the upcharge is too much

[plush tendon]

Food delivery services are a scam

[sharp gale]

Yeah it’s mostly the price, i genuinely do not understand how people order so often

[lofty warren]

$10 delivery fee $4 transaction fee $3 convenience fee $7 tip $15 fck u fee. Its unbelievable

[plush tendon]

I can understand how people eat take out food so much

[sharp gale]

I eat for half a week with what I would spend on 1 order

[plush tendon]

the costs are insane

[sharp gale]

Take out I understand

[plush tendon]

even if you have good income, that extra money could go towards retirement or investments

[undone beacon]

I eat take out more than i should but i also walk everywhere i order from so like, its not as taxing in that regard

[sharp gale]

But when price does x4 just bc you don’t want to go grab it

[plush tendon]

I cant imagine door dashing something like McDs either

thats like double bad

[mighty valley]

door dash started so cheap to hook people and then they just shrugged as the delivery charges skyrocketed

[undone beacon]

if there wasnt a mcdonalds within 6 minutes of walking i wouldnt eat there ever

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/lilydusk-midnight-poppy-land-in-hot-water-frog-sweat-gif-19356834

[plush tendon]

also, the only take out I like is either chinese take out or pizza

and everyone knows you gotta get to the pizza place early so its as fresh as possible when you get home

[sharp gale]

I live in a village so I’m kinda used to drive and wait my pizza in front of the restaurant, with all other ppl waiting too

[lofty warren]

https://youtu.be/_Zd4GrA7fpc?si=8n23tHyHHpwJfMW6

Here is a highly analysis and accurate description of food delivwry

[mighty valley]

good indian takeout is goated but kinda rare in most of america

[plush tendon]

I found a good spot

[undone beacon]

Theres a fantastic indian place also in walking distance, though i havent ordered anything to go from theme

[plush tendon]

I knew it was good when the first time I went there was a family of like 4 generations of indian people having a huge dinner

[undone beacon]

The local pizza place has indian pizzas too which is a fun combo i guess

[plush tendon]

and I was like 'yea, they know whats up'

[undone beacon]

Theres a korean/mexican fusion place near me

I gotta eat there more its sick af

[lofty warren]

Indian food (and all places) expensive af now. $22 for butter chicken with rice and no bread? Gtfo

[sharp gale]

If it’s a sit in restaurant, it’s fine price

[undone beacon]

I'm with pepega there i will say, so many places are absurdly expensive especially compared to pre-pandemic prices

[lusty grotto]

inflation + gas prices contribute to that cost

[undone beacon]

For sure

[plush tendon]

Boston may have crap Pizza, but it does Asian food well

[mighty valley]

yeah i've been on a cooking quest to recreate british indian restaurant style curries partially so i don't have to deal with expensive + mediocre takeout near me

[sharp gale]

Yeah I don’t know what type of restaurant you are referring to so I might minimise price/quality here

[ivory barn]

"your 4 piece set bonus is now $40 happy meal"

[plush tendon]

so many Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Indians in the Boston metro area

[undone beacon]

I want a good local bbq place, thats what my town is missing

Theres a Mission BBQ thats like a 10 minute drive and that shit aint worth it

[plush tendon]

theres a Texas style BBQ near where I work

it aint gonna knock your socks off, but the price point is very good

[lofty warren]

Thought it was illegal to have anything except for Irish bar in Boston

[harsh trellis]

Yo I dont even eat this shit anymore but wtf McDonald's prices

Like they can literally go fuck themselves

[plush tendon]

Its a very Irish city, but there are a bunch of cultures

though, quite segregated (the city doesnt intermingle all that much in my experience and there are defined neighborhoods for each)

[harsh trellis]

MissionBBq is shit

[sharp gale]

I mostly eat kebabs when I go for fast food

[harsh trellis]

Where are you located roughly? Eu?

[sharp gale]

Im French / next to german border

[harsh trellis]

Ok

When people say they go for kebabs I figure eu

We dont have many places here for that

I make my own

[sharp gale]

Yeah I know it didn’t reach the US yet

[harsh trellis]

But not like in Europe

[sharp gale]

Soon

[harsh trellis]

I hope its Greek

[sharp gale]

It’s the same dish

Paris inhabitants call kebabs « Greeks »

[lofty warren]

You dont want to pay $20 for your big Mac? Who wouldve thought

[plush tendon]

you gotta order off the Value menu

its the only option

its still way more expensive then it should be, but I can get a McChicken, some nuggies, fries and drink for $5

which, in 2026 prices, that aint bad

[sharp gale]

That’s what I used to order at McDonalds, multiple 5€ menus

Now I’m Burger King pilled

[lofty warren]

Tipping is bad and should go away. Change my mind

[sharp gale]

How much do you tip at McDonald’s ?

[coarse bay]

Tipping is fine, tipping replacing income isnt

[naive ravine]

Tipping is a bad amercian habbit

[plush tendon]

Tipping is bad for customers

[sharp gale]

(I never gave a tip in a fast food)

[coarse bay]

If i like my waiter, i will tip them

[vale escarp]

nothing? there is no real human interaction at mc

[plush tendon]

but I know, at least in America, servers can make bank in tips

depending on where they work

[coarse bay]

[plush tendon]

I knew a girl who studied to be a nurse and was waitressing during school

[naive ravine]

In america the tip is basically the payment of the server

[sharp gale]

Ppl usually tip in French restaurants, but only sit in, regular restaurants

[plush tendon]

stopped being a nurse and went full time server

cause the pay was just better

[sharp gale]

And not a % of the bill

[coarse bay]

Ya thats how it should be

It shouldnt be an expected thing

[naive ravine]

I tip at rhe baker

[undone beacon]

To be fair nursing in america is kinda stupid

[coarse bay]

But tipping itself is fine

[naive ravine]

At the supermarket

[undone beacon]

So much education just for shit pay and shit hours and shit treatment

and no real career growth for most people

[sharp gale]

I tip usually to round the bill

[coarse bay]

Idk in california nurses make really good money, but ya shit hours etc

[naive ravine]

Dont want those pesky little pennys and shit

[plush tendon]

depends; my friends who became nurses have done quite well for themselves

but yea, they get treated like dogs their first years

[lusty grotto]

RNAs/CNA's make bank everywhere

[undone beacon]

Maybe none of my nurse friends have matured past the point of basically being abused but they dont seem to be doing too hot

[lusty grotto]

except the caribbean, for some reason

[maiden quiver]

12.0.7 rest in fucking peace shield tax

[sharp gale]

360g per Lura pull for me

[plush tendon]

maybe it depends on where they got assigned

[undone beacon]

rip gold sink now the wow economy will be ruined i think

[coarse bay]

Man blizz fishing for some ez wins after the last 2 patches releasing buggy

[undone beacon]

Perhaps. I don't dig too deep or listen too closely to the details

I just let em drink and vent

[plush tendon]

the nurses that do the best are the travel nurses

substantially more pay

[undone beacon]

[plush tendon]

and the only reason I know that is when I approve apartment applications, I see all their contracts/pay stubs

[sharp gale]

If travel nurses is home nurse, it’s the same here

[plush tendon]

[plush tendon]

we have home nurses

[sharp gale]

It’s not travel nurse ?

[undone beacon]

All I know is that instead of doing any of that i get to sit at home on discord while people yell at me about antivirus

[coarse bay]

Travel nurses as in going where nurses are needed

[plush tendon]

travel nurses are nurses who work shorter contracts (like 6 months) at a hospital and then either negotiate another contract or move

[coarse bay]

Because everywhere is short on nurses

[undone beacon]

Nurse Contractors

[plush tendon]

what Cam said; fill in the gaps

[sharp gale]

Oh okok ofc, temporary works pays so much, whatever the field

I used to do factory temporary work

[plush tendon]

Travel nurses also may work for a agency that finds them their next gig

but theres always a pretty high demand

[sharp gale]

Got paid full month pay amount just for 2 weeks

[sharp gale]

It depends, you either are : a client (as a worker) of that agency or you have a contract with them, if it works like here

And having a contract with temporary work agencies is a scam in France

[plush tendon]

yea, I dont know the specifics

but I do know is that their hourly pay is much higher

and less hours

[echo egret]

I'm trying this pull macro :
charge/avatar/shield block

in this order, avatar is not cast.
if avatar/charge/shield block, both are cast
i don't understand why, since pressing charge doens't trigger the GCD on avatar

[sharp gale]

Yes, and you kinda work when you want to

[plush tendon]

and their contracts may even include housing/food on top of base pay

[sharp gale]

It’s just pension / bank loans don’t like that

At least here, banks really likes when you have a permanent job

[plush tendon]

its prob the same as a travel nurse

many will do the travel nurse thing for a period of time when they are young

then find somewhere they like and settle down

and secure long term employment; by that point they prob have a specialty as well

[sharp gale]

Can you share the macro ?

bc I don’t understand what can be wrong without it

[echo egret]

#show Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Charge
/cast Shield Block

in that order it works

place charge first, and avatar is not cast

[undone beacon]

The short answer is dont use a macro like that

[echo egret]

manually press charge then quickly avatar, it works

[sharp gale]

#show is = to #showtooltip ?

[echo egret]

yes

[echo egret]

when I'm about to make a big pull, it could save me some focus and bring my defenses up immediately - i don't see what's bad with it

[sharp gale]

I think it’s fine

But I wouldn’t recommend to use it, you do whatever you want

[fringe mural]

Sry i'm a little late to the party

[undone beacon]

You're going to lose avatar uptime, as well as you might not have the rage for shield block which nullifies the whole purpose. Or you might charge and not want to hit avatar or SB

[fringe mural]

people buy takeout because they can't cook or don't have time to cook or don't have a wife to cook for them

[undone beacon]

We dont reccomend macro'ing things together as a prot warrior, aside from like throughput racials into avatar or whatever

[echo egret]

I didn't say I was replacing my charge button with that

[plush tendon]

I macro charge and intervene together

[sharp gale]

I removed my intervene bind

[undone beacon]

So you're just having a second bind to do what your binds already do?

[fringe mural]

i macro shield charge and charge together but i use it intelligently

[undone beacon]

I mean, you do you

[sharp gale]

I used it once with the sacrifice intervene dps talent, I died from it, never pressed intervene again

[echo egret]

Sorry that i don't play at your level - on a big pull where I have to grab aggro on plenty of things in a pug, switch tartgets, leap, charge, well saving me the hassle of two presses vastly helps

[fringe mural]

If i'm close, it will use shield charge, if i'm far away it uses charge, if i press it fast, it will sc and charge which is great rage to start a fight

but i usually just press it once

in either situation

saves me a bind and works well

[coarse bay]

I bind my health pot to shift 9

[fringe mural]

and i can use sc as aoe dmg like it should be used

[fringe mural]

Interesting

[echo egret]

charge one mob + heroic throw a mouseover at the same time, change target,, leap, charge, bring up defenses, TC, etc - tons of stuff to do, watch stupid trigger-happy DPS, interrupt casters, so many things to do in so few time

[fringe mural]

true, you'll get used to it though

[coarse bay]

Maybe you need to try slowing down

Its ok to spend a global or 2 per pack when gathering

[undone beacon]

I mean, its not so hard that you need to make extra binds to do what you can do anyways with the binds you have but, as for the sequence not working, some abilitites are just buggy with sequencing. Shadow priest Voidform is the same. Just dont sequence charge first if it doesnt work

^

[plush tendon]

underrated advice

[undone beacon]

You're not playing MDI, you can take a moment to breathe and focus while you gather

The extra 3 seconds it will take wont make or break that key

And if dps go apeshit, go again. They're a dime a dozen

[fringe mural]

and dps in pugs will just be happy the tank does what needs to be done

and doesnt drop dead

[echo egret]

I exclusively pug - I have learned the hard way to rely on me, myself and I, on top of watching what others do or don't do

or get insulted because "aggro, dude, gee prot warriors suckz"

[fringe mural]

i mean if you pug as a dps you said fuck it i am not healing or tanking, someone else can do it

You forfeit any right to nag

just ignore them

[coarse bay]

Thats why u can gain aggro as you go, by spending a global or 2 per pack

[undone beacon]

^

[coarse bay]

But ya, such is the life

Things happen

[fringe mural]

and people flame

[undone beacon]

You'll lose aggro more panicking and trying to grab everything versus just slamming some globals into a pack on your way

[fringe mural]

We're so philosophical today

[undone beacon]

A TB and a Phalanx SB and you've locked a pack on you

[echo egret]

That's actually wise

[fringe mural]

Especially with claps insane range

just clap

[plush tendon]

Do you have an example of a pull where you feel rushed?

[echo egret]

Let's see

[undone beacon]

First of Windrunner?

[echo egret]

1s pull of WS

[undone beacon]

CALLED IT

Thats a heck of a pull

[echo egret]

1st pull of Nexus-Point

1st pull of Skyreach

[sharp gale]

1st of nexus point you can chill out few sec before grabbing the rest

[echo egret]

or any pull with twin adepts in there

[undone beacon]

Those first pulls tend to be stressful because you do big and lust, but again slowing it down a touch and giving yourself room to gather really helps

[echo egret]

ah, yes, i forgot "place a skull on the priority target" as something to do

[fringe mural]

That's not that important early on

Proper dps need to know

That's their job

not yours

[echo egret]

back to the original issue with pugs 🙂

[naive ravine]

A top notch trink for aggro is healing pot

[coarse bay]

I dont think its a bad idea to do things like that

[echo egret]

and when there are two identical casters, it's better to show everyone the correct one to nuke

[sharp gale]

Yeah if it’s not kick markers, not rly important, but not terrible idea tbf

[fringe mural]

true

But not that important in skyreach first pull for example

[echo egret]

correct

[coarse bay]

Comms before key starts of expectations or strats goes a long way

[undone beacon]

WRS for example, mark as you run into room, charge the right side. SC/SB, Avatar, TB, Shield Slam, Charge the other side. TB, SS. Shield Wall, Shockwave, Wrecking Throw a loose caster. Breathe

[fringe mural]

you can also use your mass taunt on big pulls

[undone beacon]

Good dps will give you time to gather, or just do set-up while you do

[fringe mural]

it will be ready again for the next situation

[undone beacon]

Say beforehand "let me gather first"

[echo egret]

i sure do, when there's no mass interrupt to perform

[lofty warren]

Agree. Places should charge what they need and also pay their ppl instead of this bs where you need to figure out how much to pay

[plush tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBFf6gnkKHM

Topicx posts a lot of good war stuff

good to watch how he does the pulls 🙂

[naive ravine]

Pre healing pot is a gamw changer

[echo egret]

yeah i watch his videos a lot

[fringe mural]

skyreach your positioning matters a lot imo

[echo egret]

he even has one with how to set up each 1st pull

[fringe mural]

you can show the raven your back while you gather and then turn around while you grab it

[undone beacon]

Put on some glorpy basslines and feel the beat while you do M+

[fringe mural]

like circle around the mobs

and pull what is in front of you

do the dance

[plush tendon]

a good amount of getting these pulls down is just practice

[fringe mural]

Good dps should focus what you charged/attacked first

[plush tendon]

the more you do it, the more comfortable you get

[echo egret]

also, if mobs could stop trying to slowly crawl into my back !!

[undone beacon]

Practice is huge yeah

[plush tendon]

last season It took a while for me to get the first pull in that Spider dungeon

[fringe mural]

Backpedal in circles

[plush tendon]

I hated that pull sooooo much

[echo egret]

Well I do feel more and more comfortable with it

[undone beacon]

I still hate first pull of Ara

[fringe mural]

to keep them at arm's length

[undone beacon]

I always split that fuckass pull

[echo egret]

After all, i'm working on 17s, it's not +5s

[undone beacon]

5s, 17s, 22s, doesnt matter

You need practice at any level as you improve!

[echo egret]

I mean I am practising a lot 🙂

[undone beacon]

Good! And you're coming here for advice which puts you above most haha

[sharp gale]

Enemies trying to align in front of you is the worst thing they added in bfa or sl

[undone beacon]

But as you get into higher keys, things come down less to your specific button presses and macros, and more on your comfort level with the game, your class, and the dungeon itself

As well as the team you have with you

You'll get there :)

[lofty warren]

If you have tb and avatae available you should press tb first if your not on gcd. Thats something not in guide that ks the correct thing

Your'e welcome

[echo egret]

Tb = aggro = you never have enough early on

[naive ravine]

The key for the first big pull of any dungeon is pre healing pot

The one that heals over time

Then as you rzn throught the pack you get heal aggro from the healing of the pot

Tjat gets multiplied by your tank modifier

[ionic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

Sorry couldn’t find that bullet point with the new site layout

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-nerd-cat-blink-big-eyes-gif-15286305703160120854

[ionic fern]

Realistically in APL it doesn't matter. The difference between sending TB before Avatar or munching a proc was not existent.

[lofty warren]

Ohh Im wrong. If ylu keep getting tb procs shouls you keep using them until they run out before pressing avatar?

Swear nim said that you should you tb and even if you get it again still use avatar

[ionic fern]

I'd send one TB max and then Avatar.

[fringe mural]

Omg
Mwahi are you saying pepega had this discussion with us when it was RIGHT THERE in your guide?

[frosty mango]

This is why I miss that pulsing aoe potion

That thing was goated

[ionic fern]

But as I said,the difference is within margin of error.

[lofty warren]

But doesnt that thing sat "use all your tb procs"? Sounds like it doesnt really matter since it does the same damage either way

[naive ravine]

Its better then that

You can use the healing potion and a combar potion

[fringe mural]

no it says try to use them, it doesn't say it is paramount

[pallid quiver]

but mwahi, what if i super duper high roll on a tuesday while wearing a top hat?

[lofty warren]

"There is no try, there is only do" the green yoda from the movies

[ionic fern]

Tbh,most people don't READ the guide. They just copy paste talents and check lists..if it's s block of text it gets skipped more often than not.

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/derek-zoolander-read-school-signage-zoolander-gif-17902099

They need to be sent into this

[pallid quiver]

some people don't even copy the talents right, either

[fringe mural]

or use 1/4 accidentially

[sharp gale]

Something I have to post too many times bc ppl don’t read

[ionic fern]

People also take guides as a "DO THIS OR YOUR INCORRECT" while they are meant mostly for new/not so experienced players as the target audience first and foremost.

[pallid quiver]

As long as it works and you achieve whatever your goal is, that should be all people need/want

[frosty mango]

People are largely incapable of processing things on a spectrum, it either is or it is not. The box is checked or you are trash and should accept your fate as such

Missed a spell reflect? TRASH delete your character

[lofty warren]

I munched a tb with avatar and then was thinking about weather it was wrong the rest if the key

[pallid quiver]

It's why I've never personally fussed that much over minor talent picks as much as people doing things like actively trying to avoid shield wall or something; there's a lot of context, player ability, and just really not that meaningful of a difference on things that make a lot of stuff just be like "aight cool"

[frosty mango]

There’s also something called the serial-position effect which says they’ll only remember the first and last things they read

[sharp gale]

I like cereals

[frosty mango]

Wrong type of cereal

[undone beacon]

Frosted Flakes, they’re grrrrreat

[pallid quiver]

so you hate waffles

[frosty mango]

Everyone knows the best cereal is oops all berries

[sharp gale]

Does serial and cereal actually sound the exact same ?

[frosty mango]

In English they do yes

[lofty warren]

Wisdom of the masses the best talents from aggregation sites? I guess thats not a hard and fast rule

[pallid quiver]

in murkika, 100%

[fringe mural]

they are not in general, it got worse

way worse

it was better once, at least here

[undone beacon]

Wait how else would you pronounce cereal and or serial

[fringe mural]

that's what a shit education system will do

[frosty mango]

English has a lot of homonyms

It’s a shit language to learn

[pallid quiver]

wisdom of the masses isn't for things with a determinable end result that can be wrong

[undone beacon]

“Seer-ee-all”

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/cereal-cartoon-cheese-gif-5003094

[sharp gale]

Okok thx, I get some of the English wordplays but I’m always not sure

[lofty warren]

Sea-ree-awl

[undone beacon]

what in the southern drawl

[frosty mango]

Or “sir-ee-uhl” if you’re from the south

Like oil is “ool”

[undone beacon]

SIR ee uhl??

what in the seven hells

[sharp gale]

South as Louisiana ?

[undone beacon]

Cereal

[frosty mango]

I am from the eastern shore of Maryland so I have all kinds of really wild affectations when I speak normally

Really throws my employees when I slip out of corporate voice

[undone beacon]

[lofty warren]

Nc has the some of the thicest southern word pronouncations

[sharp gale]

Sometime I have French Louisiana tiktoks

I don’t understand half of what they say

[lofty warren]

North canada (nc)

[frosty mango]

Creole is its own thing

I understand the words but can’t understand them half the time

Espec if they’re talking to each other

No idea

I had a whole team of creole folks

[sharp gale]

It’s like Caribbean French creole, it can be very hard

[frosty mango]

They were the bomb

[lofty warren]

If 2 ppl are talking mandrine to each other I can understand wtf they saying

[frosty mango]

Used to bring me this creole rice

I’m trying to learn Japanese it’s going poorly, I think 4-5 Langs may be the limit

[sharp gale]

The English accent I’m the most confused with : Australian

The song down under, I don’t understand most of the lyrics

[tawdry herald]

its just an english accent but youre also squinting while looking up at the sun

[sharp gale]

Like I couldn’t even know what words are used

[plush tendon]

what a bop

[blazing river]

i just cant survive the skyreach first pull in +20

[frosty mango]

Are you going all the way to the boss platform?

[blazing river]

yeah the two ravens, but not upstairs

soon as my cds are out i just vanish

[frosty mango]

If you link a log we can look, that shouldn’t be a difficult pull

Not if you’re not pulling up the stairs

[tribal wharf]

the more things change the more they stay the same

before i came to this discord i moved, and woman bugs boomer for ciggarette every single day, fights and yelling about it daily

boomer dies

new boomer neighbour

SAME shit

times change ppl dont lol

[lofty warren]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9yIDTQhp0LM?si=gT4J_mlLqoC1KpVw s tier tier list

[blazing river]

good watch

[frosty mango]

Can we get a tier list ranking all of the tier lists

How do I know which tier list is best if I don’t have a tier list to tell me

Ok deleting that one it’s way too seizure inducing

https://tenor.com/view/xzibit-gif-13281402

[tribal wharf]

he just kept talking and talking in one incredibly long unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so no-one had a chance to interupt him, quite hypnotic

the original series may have been objectively better show, but damn this was a good one

[harsh trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/really-bruh-gif-14129423195192878627

[tribal wharf]

i played more than enough call of duty

[maiden ravine]

the way there can still be people who don't know the last boss of PoS

and it was a 12....

we would've timed if they didn't mess up the mechanic, but alas

[pallid quiver]

it's me, i don't know last boss

i don't even know why you're dungeoning on sales software

[maiden ravine]

I just prefer PoS over calling it Pit

[pallid quiver]

oh pit of saron

i just haven't played this expac at all

so i literally did not even know ehat dungeon it was

it still stands that yeah i don'y know that mech, i ain't really seen this new version

[frosty mango]

Don’t worry

There are no mechs

So you’re safe

[maiden ravine]

It's not bad boss, but dps can't handle having responsibility

[frosty mango]

There is one mech

How do they mess that up lol

[maiden ravine]

"I didn't see the glowing pile"

[fringe mural]

first pit bonus roll

garfrost crit hammer

too bad can't use that for parrygod build

[maiden ravine]

I got the neck which yay

I'm scared to roll more cause I have so many of the slots already

[fringe mural]

next one

wild group

ring

ring is for parrygod build

[tribal wharf]

current goal

go till cant use mythstone at all

[fringe mural]

aand chest -.-

see you next week

i only have helmet neck shoulders and belt left

All good pieces

[lofty warren]

i agree need a tier list of all the tier list tier lists

[odd warren]

im having issues taking the slam star slam on dragons in voidspire. does spell reflect work on the damage? idf asusume that would probably save me

[lusty grotto]

the "star slam" on dragons?

what do you mean

slam star slam

what do you mean...

[odd warren]

not dragons

sorry salad

[lusty grotto]

just wall

you wanna reflect the orb kill dots

[clever edge]

that can be reflected??!

[lusty grotto]

yes

[clever edge]

holy shit

new tech unlocked

[lusty grotto]

make sure you check the pinned reflect site/sheet every season

not new

[clever edge]

that would be ideal

[clever edge]

new to me lol

[maiden quiver]

Im looking for an addon that might not even exist but I wonder if anyone can help. Is there an addon where you can like record notes about characters you played with in keys? Specifically something that integrates with the group finder and puts like an asterisk or some other type of notification by their name in the group finder when they apply to your keys?

[lusty grotto]

remindme or something like that

[warm plinth]

Friendly reminder to go gym

[lusty grotto]

or do you mean a black list?

[warm plinth]

Down 42.5 pounds as of last Saturday

[lusty grotto]

good shit ghash, my bulk is going well too

[maiden quiver]

No, I just want to be able to make notes about good players ive grouped with and be able to easily notice them when they apply in group finder, without having to add them on bnet

[undone beacon]

Damn Ghash, freakin killin it

Proud of you

[lusty grotto]

so you want an inverse blacklist

there was an addon

[maiden quiver]

Exactly

[lusty grotto]

i cant remember the name

[maiden quiver]

Like you know how the little thing shows up beside their name if theyre a guildie or a bnet friend, I want something that makes a thing show up like that if I have made a note in the addon that they are a good player

One called Character Notes seems to be the closest I can find but Im not seeing the group finder integration, its just a notes app as far as I can tell

[lusty grotto]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/i-remember-you

this i the remember one i was talking about

[maiden quiver]

Thats exactly what Im looking for, cheers!

[frosty mango]

when you're on your monk and someone says "do you know roidburg"

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-1201hONkUdpK36

[frosty mango]

HUUUUGE

or the opposite of huge

[lusty grotto]

i know roidburg

[warm plinth]

SMOL

[undone beacon]

smolmaxxing

quiet tonight

[coarse bay]

[ivory barn]

I found one out in the wild!

[coarse bay]

Hey driney was in the chim that wiped and disbanded

Cool guy

[lusty grotto]

ive done keys with KSP and pug raids with Scott

and with (if youre a XIV player) arthars

in WoW

in the past

so they def go around and pug and shit

[coarse bay]

I dont think ive run into many big people myself

[lusty grotto]

also done keys and hard modes with Cam, Rhino, Guilford, Pash, Griff, Late, bullfango too

very cool people, S-tier

[coarse bay]

Like ive seen people like dratnos and jundies outside of raids and dungeons but never played with anybody

[lusty grotto]

and lets not forget Ghash

[coarse bay]

All S tier

And ghash

[lusty grotto]

i saved Jakb from a gank once in vale while BFA nzoth invasion thing

was also caught on stream