protection

[compact palm]

[coarse bay]

[forest dragon]

Something that does help that pull is sending spell reflect on CD because the casters that do arcane explosion - can’t remember the name, their hits are magical

[coarse bay]

Arcanists i think

[forest dragon]

That’s the one

CPS not posting his routes/streaming is diabolical - CPS if you see this, posts VODs please

[compact silo]

how much should an average m+ dps be for prot?

[compact silo]

honestly i wouldnt bother either

[forest dragon]

Depends on the dungeon - seat you’ll probably end around 100k, pit you should end around 100k, Skyreach if you hit 80-90k you’re a god of damage

Magisters terrace also a high DPS dungeon and a fair few spell reflects

MC also high damage output, basically any dungeon with decent amount of mobs and decent amount of spell reflects that target the tank

[compact silo]

just the dmg is so low compared to other tanks i cant help but feel i'm doing something wrong even though i have the rotation down to a dot

even always line up SC with demo and avatar

[jagged pier]

Thats wrong

U send it on cd

It doesnt line up with them always

[forest dragon]

If you’re playing colossus over MT, I’m not sure what your output should be, but I think you just send Demo on CD

I’ve been a filthy thunderclap enjoyer for too long

[heavy sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-mask-off-you-the-real-mvp-there-is-an-idea-of-a-patrick-bateman-gif-24785182

[ionic fern]

Spam more Revenge as Colossus.

[frosty mango]

❤️ revenge

Ripped a 120k pit as Colo and pretty sure my revenge key was broken by the end lul

[frosty mango]

If your damage is low you are playing incorrectly

[forest dragon]

Depends on the comparison point, if you’re playing colossus you should be competitive on damage but still about 10% lower than Bear or Monk, if you’re playing MT you’ll be like 20-25% lower

[heavy sparrow]

Tomorrow is gonna be a good 30% damage increase though

[frosty mango]

It’s not a 30% increase

Prob like 3%?

[forest dragon]

It’s a 2.5% increase on ST and a 3.5% increase on AoE apparently

So like 3% overall sounds about right

[heavy sparrow]

I appreciate being corrected

WB roidberg

@forest dragon appreciate the % percentage

[compact silo]

i play mt. colossus deals slightly more but feels terrible for gathering

[ionic fern]

If Colossus deals more damage for you than Thane then something is fishy.

[compact silo]

it's around the 80k average the other guy said. just feels low compared to other tanks

[compact silo]

on thane just TC>SS>TC>SS etc.

[forest dragon]

MT is the second lowest DPS tank listed on Archon

https://www.archon.gg/wow/tier-list/tank-rankings/mythic-plus/high-keys/all-dungeons/this-week

[compact silo]

how to gather with colossus btw?

with MT just pop ava and tc instantly

with colossus sometimes you dont have rage for revenge

[dry trellis]

Bodypulling and shield charge

[ionic fern]

Data aggregation without any meaningful output.

[forest dragon]

You can just say you’re bad at the game, it’s ok

I’m also bad at the game, but dismissing Archon is crazy work

[frosty mango]

80 seems low

and yes archon is incorrect

not gonna reexplain but if you search my tirade about dataset bias its all explained

[jagged pier]

whenu got to the build in archon

its 1 /4

maybe look at the aggragation

and whats its shouwing u

[frosty mango]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qakfrJzK3LN2AhtR?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=4

heres a 10 i did last week as colossus at 110k overall AND i played like shit

actually that was a month ago

that might have been before the colo buffs

[stable kernel]

did bro just call mwahi bad too?

[round pendant]

Fitting name

[forest dragon]

Am I missing something? Archon is a useful tool for indicative DPS? Is Mwahi top 10 prot wars in the world or something?

[frosty mango]

Yes you are missing literally the entire plot

archon is a terrible tool for indicative dps

[stable raft]

Archon only shows the talents for the highest key done it’s which majority of the time is the Chinese and they play some wacky shit just use murloc.io it’ll show you the top 20 people there talents there gear and so on

[frosty mango]

all it does is aggregate logs based on average which is really just telling you the avg dps breakdown across all keys (not valuable data) and the aggregate talent at top keys (also not valuable data)

if you want to look at dps per spec then go to warcraft logs and write the pins to do it

[forest dragon]

Hmm, well ok then I’ll have a look - I don’t think we can just disregard the Chinese but I see your point

[vital vale]

the wowhead recommended talent build for m+ guardian druid has 2 talents in it which do pretty much nothing for you, just basically dead talents. makes me really appreciate warrior writers actually being good

[frosty mango]

if the majority of good players are playing brew and guardian, then the remaining warriors will have a relatively smaller slice of parses and an even smaller subset of those who are playing optimally

so you can't just look at archon and be like "oh warriors suck"

[stable raft]

Wow head is always fine at the start of a patch or expansion soon as any tuning changes or talents changes in my experience wow head just doesn’t change

[frosty mango]

if you go look at WCL and run actual, real comparisons of the data, warrior is not vastly behind in dps and hasnt been this season (other than when they omega buffed druids for a week)

[stable raft]

https://murlok.io/warrior/protection/m+?top-ratings=1#top-ratings take a look at this

[frosty mango]

this is wrong too

"optimal" haste isnt 1000, bunch of people will read this and go roll with ITF and 1000 haste then wonder why shield block is falling off and they're getting clapped

[compact silo]

https://murlok.io/character/us/stormrage/spritepizza/pve what the hell is this build

no ravager, no punish

is this viable? xd

[frosty mango]

you can play with no talents and 1 finger and be viable

[compact silo]

doubt

[frosty mango]

most top end players are playing builds which are built to their own group

not relevant to other people

[compact silo]

try tanking any first pull without shield wall

[stable raft]

How is it wrong? It’s pulling the data from raider.io of his talents and gear

[stable raft]

He’s timing 20s so must be

[frosty mango]

because the aggregate says optimal haste is 1000 but also says you run ITF

that is objectively incorrect

the data is presented incorrectly and leads people to draw incorrect conclusions

[stable raft]

What is aggregate??
Also having some sort of reference point on what the top 20 people are playing is always nice

[frosty mango]

We have this problem every single season, people copy random builds or use archon etc, then they come here and say "warrior dps stinks i only do 80k avg" when in reality, the problem is they stink not the class

sorry not sorry

[frosty mango]

murloc, archon, etc - they pull data across multiple chars and key levels then combine it all together and come out with a general result meant to represent "what everyone is doing"

and thats all fine except thats not how the game works, your talents and stats are specific to your group and your gear, so when you mash everything together you get results that don't reflect what is actually optimal for the majority of the playerbase

[stable raft]

Brother it’s not that deep it’s just another website that gives you some information, if you want to improve you’d check Warcraft logs and read logs but it’s always nice to have multiple sources.

[frosty mango]

you're in a discord specifically for protection warriors

so yeah

it is that deep

[stable kernel]

He is saying these websites wind up giving out slop information

and people follow said slop

then bitch here

cus they were led astray

[frosty mango]

ill rip a key tomorrow no shield wall no IP

id try no shield block but id die

[stable raft]

And do you think ranting in here telling everyone there wrong and best way is WCL and you shouldn’t look at this that and the other will change anything? No it won’t people go to a class discord look at the pinned comments look at the talents, copy it and go play

[frosty mango]

I think actively discouraging it here will ensure people who come here get the right idea

[jagged pier]

we dont have talents in our pins

so they cant just copy

for that whole reason

[compact silo]

anything over 16 🙂 👍

[frosty mango]

I got a 16 MGT in the bags

[compact silo]

mt is ez

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[frosty mango]

you're moving the goal posts on me!

[frosty mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/latenightseth-seth-meyers-lnsm-xT0xex57qDRDwyyqyc

[compact silo]

tbh mt is probably one i dont find myself pressing SW lol

try tanking MC, AA, WS first pull without shield wall

[frosty mango]

MC would be fine, AA you'll get shit on since you do even with shield wall, WS would be fine too

MC is all phys and its all stunnable

[compact silo]

cc falloff is a thing

[frosty mango]

seat would be really rough

[stable raft]

No but your discord is suggesting builds with no cheat

[jagged pier]

because 99% of players dont need it

and its nota cheat

it can save u from death

but a lot of the time it procs

u werent doing to die anyway

[stable raft]

So for 99% of players archon and wow head are also fine

[frosty mango]

and those players arent here

so if they come here, why would we give them misleading or bad info?

[stable kernel]

I mean 99% of players stop dead at 10-12 cheat is pretty worthless there

well our version of “cheat”

[stable raft]

Personally when I’ve come to the discord you guys have been spot on but.

Is it ever worth to run both of these?

[compact silo]

i did some high keys with them on

idk if i felt it much

well

[stable raft]

i was gonna say

it seems axinator loves it in his keys

[jagged pier]

noo, u wont feel having one or the other, they are just small optimisations dependent on dungeon

[stable raft]

i guess its nice in AA cause of the battle axes

[jagged pier]

yes

[ionic fern]

It's not "crazy work". All data aggregation sites need to be taken with a grain of salt about the information they are providing. You need to dig deeper into the information provided via logs to actually understand what is shown on the sites.

[compact silo]

also, no phalanx? 😛

[frosty mango]

I played phalanx

[compact silo]

doesnt show dmg

[ionic fern]

It's under Shield Slam,click on the small arrow.

[forest dragon]

I think you guys have missed the point - sites like archon, raider io, murloc.io, wow logs etc all have a place and are helpful in their own way - but ultimately every class/spec is viable to +20s and the majority of meta specs are irrelevant to 99.9% of players - saying ‘archon is terrible’ and ‘you’re just bad’ is like the peak of unhelpful

[ionic fern]

No,we are not missing the point. As I stated above,you need to actually dig deeper into the aggregation sites and take additional information from elsewhere to actually get the proper information out of them.

Misreading the information aggregation sites provide is just leading to incorrect outcomes.

[forest dragon]

So you're saying aggregation sites are a helpful tool but shouldn't be taken as a single source of truth.. almost like they are a helpful tool in their own way

[lone wren]

is hc riad chalenging this seaon? not sure if seeing a guide and trying it

got the war to 274 un around 12 10s

[naive ravine]

Calling someone bad cuz he says archon is not a good source to soley base your statements on is

Dumb

@forest dragon you also can just copy the routes of CPS

[forest dragon]

Yeah, hard to see how he plays it though, when he sends defensives etc

[naive ravine]

[forest dragon]

my whole point was you shouldn't just be disregarding a tool out of hand, aggregation bias aside, it's not, not helpful lol

[naive ravine]

If u need someone to show you when to press defensives then you probably are in a Key range where routes dont rly matter at all

[forest dragon]

19s?

[opaque oriole]

How do you guys handle spellbound battleaxe in AA?

[forest dragon]

spell reflect + stuns

[naive ravine]

Reading is hard, isnt it?

[opaque oriole]

ty 🙂

[naive ravine]

"Do not take what the site says litteral without doing any thinking yourself" is not saying its not helpfull

[forest dragon]

this was a secondary statement backtracking on the previous

[forest dragon]

you should also have 1 or both shield wall charges and demo shout ideally going into both hard battle axe pulls because it's straight after boss both times

[naive ravine]

It tracks back to that statement

[naive ravine]

And that was your response

[forest dragon]

which was prior to... you're almost there

[naive ravine]

Nah man you have to be doing it on purpose now

8/10 ragebait

Fell for it

[naive ravine]

Also you can just go onto Warcraftlogs and look at his logs

Most of his runs are logged

[lone wren]

Miasra cavern how I pull so I don’t get hit in the back by trolls

Like everyone is far away

[broken marsh]

Thunderclap leap

[slender bison]

The same way you pull in NPX left wing to avoid getting hit by the 4 heal absorb mobs. TC + storm bolts/shockwave

[dry trellis]

You're coming to pack and cast shockwave+clap

[dry trellis]

Kiting, kiting and kiting

[hearty terrace]

Is running the ring set worth it ever the Void + Light

[ionic fern]

If you do not have a better alternative,yes.

[clear kestrel]

Does AoE taunt/silence work on the kick adds on Mythic Lura? Also shockwave? I know it works on HC but it feels like if you just stack stuns etc the mechanic is free?

[wicked plank]

Shockwave doesnt work, dunno about taunt

[lofty glen]

is MT still better after buffs?

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[lofty glen]

thx sir

[verbal lance]

not really on-topic for builds and performance and stuff but what's your guys' favourite race for your prot warriors?

[limpid depot]

Supposedly it's dwarf for the racial

[naive ravine]

I love dwarf for their appearance

[frosty mango]

Clench and run

[naive ravine]

Me when I eat cheese

[stable kernel]

Dwarf fits the whole mountain thane setup plus racial is sick and it mogs well if you know what you are looking for

lil brick wall

[ionic fern]

Orc and dwarf.

[opaque oriole]

Thanks, now I’m constipated

[lone wren]

Dwarf mogs are tied with vulpera for worse mogs

[lone wren]

Orc mogs much better

[harsh trellis]

Tauren in the alliance elite BFA set is the best transmog.

with the spartan helm from Dragonflight

[ionic fern]

Only issue I have with dwarf mogs is the horrid shield and beard clipping.

[jagged pier]

weps and shield to smol on dwarf

[naive ravine]

I want shield in both hands

[harsh trellis]

Only transmog that looks good on a dwarf is their Heritage set

[harsh cypress]

Orc!!!

[harsh trellis]

I can appreciate the zug in this ^

[verbal lance]

yea I really really want to love dwarf for a warrior but I somehow just end up not liking them a lot of the time when I'm actually in game, I find I often either wanna be bigger and bulkier to feel like a huge wall or I just don't like how stubby they look with certain armour or how their shields/weapons clip

kul tiran would be dope for alliance warriors if it wasn't for that horrible belly stretching all the plate armors

[harsh trellis]

for Kul Tiran you need to put them in bulky belts to cover the beer gut

then they look like a juggernaught

big shoulders and big belt for kul tiran

also the bulkier the plate legs the better

[verbal lance]

or just keep looking at your character from the back and don't turn the camera 😄

[ivory barn]

Big ol booty mog

[verbal lance]

I love the idea of tauren as well but I've been playing alliance for so many years the thought of being horde is a bit scary, even though tbf now choosing a faction matter less than it ever has probably

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/big-behind-gif-8571312464296490358

[ivory barn]

Only reason it really exists now is because your still can't fucking queue a normal/heroic in lfg

https://tenor.com/view/ouch-gif-12136515515962044163

They should make a mercenary for pve like they do for pvp

[tribal wharf]

when blinding is i key im going to hard avoid it

cuz of this

just that 1 mob

positional nighmare for me and team

[ivory barn]

It's just a we little frog

[tribal wharf]

doesnt matter if its follower or real players, he always gets pulled

and then throws you around the room

probably agroing t4he entire rest of the room

andthen its a +17

and then that happens

and NO

im out already

[ivory barn]

Yeah it's aggro radius is "required" pull

[tribal wharf]

long before it can becom future reality

i hate any dungeon with knock back

even a single instance of it

[ivory barn]

So you dislike magisters terrace?

[tribal wharf]

onlyt time i dont hate it is straight back and its on a boss and its once every 15 or so second

[ivory barn]

I can not decide a range i want to play

[harsh trellis]

what is a knock back? I only experience this on my monk

[tribal wharf]

its a giant headache monster to deal with, before a boss that you have to lock in on

so if it goes disastouresly fighting the frog

[harsh trellis]

charge x2, shield charge, heroic leap

= no knockback

[tribal wharf]

im going to be furious as hell trying to fight the boss

[ivory barn]

Just pull all the extra bullshit into it and funnel

[tribal wharf]

im just pre-season malding

[naive ravine]

20 yards

[tribal wharf]

for future events, but thats the way its going to happen whenever it is in the seasonals

i can garuntee there will be a yogi conversation just like this when i have to do it in +10 or more key

[ivory barn]

I'm leveling a hardcore pally to pass the time anyway

[naive ravine]

Oh you meant ranged spec?

Like in class?

[ivory barn]

Yeah haha

[naive ravine]

What do you like?

(Playstyle wise)

[ivory barn]

I have lock, mage, Hunter. But the mage seems the most simple

Warrior but ranged would be nice

[harsh trellis]

New Demon Hunter class then

[ivory barn]

Ew

[harsh trellis]

eyebeam goes brrrrrrrrr

[tribal wharf]

this is what im really playing atm

duke nukem

[naive ravine]

What yoz like about warrior?

Like gameplay wise

[tribal wharf]

guy with a rocketlauncher killing aliens and making silly one liners

[ivory barn]

It's fast pace and just dual wield. I enjoy sword classes a little too much

Shit flying all over the screen

[naive ravine]

There are dome faster ranges

[ivory barn]

I used to like destro lock but that shit trash this tier

[naive ravine]

Like fire mage

[tribal wharf]

duke is still morally a more or less good man up till this point

[naive ravine]

Could probably also include ele

[tribal wharf]

bit sleazy but nothing too bad

[naive ravine]

I do also like dev evoker

[tribal wharf]

they ruined his character in DNF

[naive ravine]

Simple but has quiet incredible burst

[ivory barn]

It's like D4. Pally, barb are the go to

If it isn't fast pace and something isn't being ran over it's wrong

[plush swallow]

Dude I wish collosus was better. Demolish is such a fun button to press

[ivory barn]

Thane gives that smack in the face, if collosus had better gathering

[naive ravine]

No, dont buff colossus gathering

Just make it compareable in dmg

[vocal lintel]

Focused vigor vs Enduring alacrity? I like to run with Indo and BSV so can only choose one of those.

[undone beacon]

If you’re going to drop one of those for Indom, drop EA

[real aspen]

Don't tell Spritepizza colo is bad

[naive ravine]

Who is spritepizza

[ivory barn]

Watch collosus be good next season because a lot of the dungeons packs are already pre geouped

[naive ravine]

Colossus grouping cant be worse then bear grouping

[harsh trellis]

What level keys are you running?

[naive ravine]

And bear is the top tank

[toxic pewter]

wat

[real aspen]

5th io warrior world. 1st Americas/Oceania

[toxic pewter]

never heard of em

[real aspen]

Plays colo prot

[harsh trellis]

Spritepizza is a solid dude 😄 Been loving his colossus builds

[naive ravine]

I was hoping someone says thats the rank 1 prot and then I can tell them they are not rank 1

[harsh trellis]

Sprite is 5th atm worldwide but 1 US

[undone beacon]

I mean the top players usually are top because of skill expression more than anything

[harsh trellis]

but colossus helps a ton

[undone beacon]

The top bear in TWW ran with ironfur macro'd into all of his buttons

[harsh trellis]

I love the feel of colossus over thane after swapping

[plush swallow]

Oh I haven't played collosus in forever. I stopped playing it pretty early in my key journey. Been mountain thane for awhile

[undone beacon]

Its not colossus that is making him R1, its his ability to perform in a given role and the aptitiude of the people he runs with

[harsh trellis]

You know how you have those "Omg im gonna fuckin die moments playing thane?" I dont have those with colossus

its chill af

[naive ravine]

Squishvegan still does that

With the new build after bear rework

[undone beacon]

You keep mentioning those but I dont have "omg im gonna fuckin die moments" playing thane really lol

[toxic pewter]

O_O

[naive ravine]

There is smth called, personal bias

And its okay to have that and to enjoy colossus

[plush swallow]

The people pushing high with off meta stuff usually have a good group playing around them

[toxic pewter]

sounds like not blocking well or something to me

[undone beacon]

I heard but tbh im not keeping up with bear that much rn because after the changes to thrash that side of the community became fucking insufferable lol

[naive ravine]

Its not recommended, its the exact same thing macroing shield block into your SS

On prot

[harsh trellis]

It will be interesting to see the end of the week numbers and specs with the buffs happening today

[real aspen]

Yeah I'm just highlighting the fact that colo can perform.

[undone beacon]

Oh yeah for sure, it wasnt reccomended in TWW either. I'm well aware

[naive ravine]

Sadly with colossus beeing behind in sims this tuning wont change a thing

[undone beacon]

I was a bear main last season after all

[naive ravine]

Thane will still be more dmg

[harsh trellis]

I'm gonna stick with colossus

[plush swallow]

Nah and thunder blast getting buffed is crazy and I'm hyper for it

[harsh trellis]

dont care about the dmg

[undone beacon]

It absolutely can perform, but for the vast majority of people Thane will just outperform

If you want to play Col and aren't trolling your groups doing so, go for it

Col is fun

[naive ravine]

Yeah u can do that, just be careful with making such statements that smth feels more tanky

[plush swallow]

Colossus is the more fun spec though. By a huge mile. It's literally the warrior fantasy dream

[naive ravine]

Its basically the same as Nopex, either get logs to prove it or dont make bold statements

[harsh trellis]

can someone define smth

[undone beacon]

But I also think Thane is fun because smashing people with big ass thunder blasts gives me dopamine

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-gif-20402854

[undone beacon]

"something" shorthand

[naive ravine]

I wish col worked a bit better with apex

It does good but its not even close to satisfying

[real aspen]

Main reason I don't like colo is its single target boss performance. I like it a lot on trash

[verbal lance]

amen

[naive ravine]

Why doesnt our apex proc also work on Revenge casts?

[toxic pewter]

thane works better with apex than colossus though... am i misunderstanding u

[naive ravine]

Like get the improved phalanx SS

[undone beacon]

The apex doesnt really synergize one way or another with either Hero Talent, its kind of just its own little part of the kit

[naive ravine]

My bad meant to say col

[toxic pewter]

ah right

[naive ravine]

Corrected it 🫡

[real aspen]

The crit chance on shield slam is pretty nice for colo tho. But every other thing about the apex is wildly better for thane

[ivory barn]

And we didn't really even play around proccing it

[undone beacon]

Its basically an entirely passive part of the rotation that adds good damage and defense without any thought so like, it could be worse

It doesnt speed up or slow down prot at all or change our decision making

So, its chill

[harsh trellis]

I feel like colossus is a slower rotation

but when you have rage for IP you just send it whenever

instead of waiting around for 70

[naive ravine]

Yeah ofc it could be worse LOOKING AT YOU MISTWEAVER

[harsh trellis]

just keep Sblock up and hit IP whenever

hit revenge when it procs

[undone beacon]

[naive ravine]

Wtf did i just read

[undone beacon]

The proper usage of IP doesnt change between Thane and Col

[naive ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-pineapple-apple-pen-gif-15346056401886826080

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-simpson-homer-gif-12946893

[undone beacon]

In fact rage manegment is MORE important as Col because you tend to have less rage gen and a greater emphasis on Revenge

[real aspen]

Only thing that intrigued me about colo enough to try was Sprite running all the bleed talents (bloodborne) over Punish.

[harsh trellis]

If you wait around for 70 rage with colossus without hitting Ip youre gonna go splat

[naive ravine]

The prio does not change but to me it feels like you have way less rage to spend on IP

Since you have so many free globals where you need to fish for SS procs

[undone beacon]

Col has less IPs overall but each IP is larger

[ivory barn]

I had SS proc 5 times in a row last night

[undone beacon]

Dropping punish is such a silly move and I still don't get why people are pushing for it

[naive ravine]

Not true

IP does nothing to save your ass from dying

[harsh trellis]

Awesome, are you runnin colossus in your keys then?

[pastel summit]

is shield warr good yet after our 15th consecutive buff

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/ronnie-coleman-prot-warrior-tbc-wow-chad-class-gif-24723206

[naive ravine]

Aw man I just lost all respect for you, even worse then fukin nopex

[real aspen]

He drops Punish and Best served cold for one of the rage talents + Bloodborne.

*typically

[pastel summit]

hrm

[undone beacon]

Which is wild because Best Served Cold has more value for Col than it does for Thane, and Punish is just a good talent

[real aspen]

Punish is a great talent but it's a shame that it's behind Best Served Cold

I'd way rather take Instigate or Bloodborne over bsv. But punish is so good especially as thane

[undone beacon]

I just cant see Bloodborne being more damage overall than Punish, especially when you're on bosses

[naive ravine]

A big point I missed was that the % buff to revenge is not bound to the stacks of colossal might (with the choice note)

[real aspen]

That isn't the 1 to 1. It's 2 talent points that are being swapped

[naive ravine]

And the bleed buff is only when stack of colossal might are there

Big downturner for me

Also deepwounds fucking suck ass

[undone beacon]

Sure, but my point still stands if i say I cant see Bloodborne and Bloodsurge being more damage overall than BSC and Punish, especially when you're on bosses

[real aspen]

I think he does the swap for more leech on trash or something idk. Cuz bleed damage leeches the most. Idk how relevant the healing is tho hard to tell when we have to be healed

[harsh trellis]

Who are you referring to ?

[real aspen]

More rage and healing on trash*

[naive ravine]

Huh why would leech be better on bleeds?

Cuz of no uptime needed?

[harsh trellis]

Yes

[real aspen]

Fueled by Violence

[undone beacon]

Like I could see dropping either Armor Spec or FTTF depending on the damage profile of the key to take Bloodsurge as Col, but 25% extra bleed damage on rend is... not super super impactful when you could be stacking DRs on prio targets and dishing out bigger revenges

[harsh trellis]

You can just ask him, hes super friendly and open to discuss his builds.

I swapped over to all of his builds

[naive ravine]

That still doesnt explain why leech is better on bleeds

[harsh trellis]

there are 1 or 2 variations

[pastel summit]

cos bloodborne buff bleed dmg so bleed heal more via fueled

[real aspen]

I just put Fueled by violence under the blanket term "leech"

[naive ravine]

Lol

Wtf

[pastel summit]

[real aspen]

Fueled by violence is leech but just only for bleeds 🙂

[naive ravine]

So its leech but diffrent

Got it

[pastel summit]

tell this guy to kick somethin and he'll be like erm its actually pummel

[real aspen]

So leech but for bleeds 🙂

[real aspen]

lmao TRUE

[harsh trellis]

lol

[real aspen]

"aoe kick" "um dont you mean 'Disrupting Shout'????"

[naive ravine]

No cuz pummel is a kick, litterally the same. And leech is healing off all dmg and healing. While Fueled by Violence is Healing from your Deepwounds and Rend

I get it some ppl dont rly care about such diffrences. But it leads to confusion.

[real aspen]

I thought I was in the prot warrior discord 😴

[pastel summit]

aight my b it aint bleed leech its enhanced fueled by violence regeneration

anybody confused need to be workin on their shield block uptime

[undone beacon]

Pedantic syntactical musing aside, I just can't see the extra 25% rend damage mattering even when thinking about FBV value. We also dont even get deep wounds ever these days which is what it is. It seems to be working for the one guy which is great, but at his level what matters more is the way he and his team execute the dungeon moreso than the specific points they're running. Maybe they're feelycrafting the vibe of more bleed healing, maybe they talked to their healer and wanted more sustain, whatever it is its interesting to rationalize but also we're not gonna recommend people do it

[naive ravine]

Oh no its the time the americans wake up, can sense the manners sinking into the ground

[undone beacon]

rip execute package my beloved

[pastel summit]

ya eu dorks out

[harsh trellis]

its tea time eu dorks

[pastel summit]

ya next tuning pass 20% more execute pls

[real aspen]

anyways, the build seems to maximize aoe rage and healing by adding Bloodsurge and Bloodborne. But it's an obvious sacrifice in single target

[undone beacon]

If we get 20% each pass then one day we might be able to take execute talents again

[pastel summit]

ya at a glance it seems aight for like

super high target count

[real aspen]

Maybe it helps in the left side of nexus point 8)

fkn defenders

[harsh trellis]

I used to hate npx

then I swapped to colossus and now I do not mind npx at all

[pastel summit]

i like right boss where group is like hey kennie why do u sound panicked

and i get auto'd for 1.5m through a defensive

eeeee

[undone beacon]

dps just vibin away meanwhile

[pastel summit]

"pull the dreadlord into the casters" ok promise u wont stand in the blind

-2 people get blinded-

[real aspen]

My favorite part of the dreadlord boss was early season when i didn't know about the dreadflail frontal 🙂

[pastel summit]

did u clobber the team in the light beam

hey dodge this

[real aspen]

Err not dreadlord boss

[undone beacon]

apb knows about that frontal

[real aspen]

the right boss with the dreadlord add

[serene agate]

What makes colossus feel better on that segment

[pastel summit]

is it the shockwave

[harsh trellis]

its the way it makes my hair glow really

[real aspen]

He just likes colo better and is probably more comfortable on it. It's not that deep.

[pastel summit]

ye

[toxic pewter]

i retired from tanking im a balance druid now

[harsh trellis]

It heals better

I like the self healing with it

I also like the dmg it has in big aoe packs

sure boss dmg suffers

its also just slower on my thumbs

[autumn roost]

Is @warm plinth around

[undone beacon]

oh shit actually?

[harsh trellis]

well 1 thumb cause im right handed

[undone beacon]

[autumn roost]

I want to post ragebait

[warm plinth]

[toxic pewter]

lol jk mostly, but yeah got into balance druid for some reason actually a lot of fun.. its all just alt stuff though

[autumn roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1507593965397082292/image.png?ex=6a13208b&is=6a11cf0b&hm=8299e5e872297ae837a9785fd5097374e976bd8f5e883314638304c62c194fc5&

[harsh trellis]

yawn

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-gif-11079826643093500565

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[warm plinth]

Low effort smh

[undone beacon]

You've posted this one before Lari

Step it up smh

[autumn roost]

Okay I'll figure out a new cursed macro

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[undone beacon]

I didn't enjoy balance last season but i havent tried it in Midnight yet

[harsh trellis]

its like hey guys.... look what i can do

[autumn roost]

I don't know anything about protection warrior though so

[harsh trellis]

https://klipy.com/gifs/broken-thumb-trick-doggface209-1

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/atg-stucapa-studiocapa-capa-gif-9129675076658254742

[fringe mural]

I was actually considering trying it out

my guardian has 280

[autumn roost]

When I kill lura with the macro, can I post that as ragebait

[fringe mural]

how is owl stat prio?

[toxic pewter]

my first time ever playing it so I cant even say how it compares but im having fun.. that being said I do find it to be decently punishing I am still learning the intracies of eclipse

[toxic pewter]

I say give it a shot if u want to try dpsing for a change

[undone beacon]

You need the picture of Lura's corpse with the macro window open AND the macro on your bar. Then its top tier ragebait

[autumn roost]

Kk

Wil do

That's if we ever get to raid again, My raiders keep having irl issues

[fringe mural]

Macro in shield charge too

[harsh trellis]

macro everything into it

[undone beacon]

Boooo, roster boss my behated

[harsh trellis]

avatar also

[ivory barn]

I'ma go raw dog a 10 without a few select talents

[undone beacon]

We're still scraping our 20 together but we're on Belo not Lura so

[real aspen]

Macro in avatar, pot, Charge

[harsh trellis]

the new flex mythic raid will be nice

hey we dont have 20.. cool lets go

[autumn roost]

It's not really roster boss? We just have a rule as a team that we focus irl over video games so if someones uncle is in the hospital and is dying we just try to reschedule

We have a 26 man roster

[autumn roost]

Wait

[fringe mural]

Healers will be like 'fuck this' because raid leads will squeeze the minimum healer amount with max loot out of raids

[autumn roost]

I could macro in avatar

Ty

[fringe mural]

yeah and shield charge

[autumn roost]

And potion

[undone beacon]

So if you set your 20 for the week, and one of them can't make it for IRL, y'all cancel instead of bringing in off bench?

[reef hazel]

demo shout too

[fringe mural]

shield charge goes onto main target gogo

[autumn roost]

No not shield charge I at least try to pay attention to my shield block

[real aspen]

Don't think you can get shield charge in there. Has to be Charge

[fringe mural]

demo wont work

[austere wadi]

and racial

[undone beacon]

Or are 7+ people dealing with IRL at the same time?

[fringe mural]

shield charge is gcd right, sry

[autumn roost]

On final boss prog yeah

[real aspen]

You can put Challenging/Disrupting SHout as well

And taunt

[austere wadi]

put it at the end ;d

[ivory barn]

What are you making a macro for?

[harsh trellis]

what if they all joined an improv class together

[autumn roost]

I don't know a single healer who doesn't want to run the minimum number of healers lol. They all complain when we don't two heal reclear

[harsh trellis]

and they are all out pretending they all have an invisible gun

[undone beacon]

Interesting. I feel like that would cause some of the people who can make it to want to jump ship, but maybe yours are more locked in than ours

[ivory barn]

Can we petition demo shout off of gcd

[undone beacon]

This is very real

[fringe mural]

is it that easy?

to heal i mean

[harsh trellis]

our healers are very aggressive

[fringe mural]

or are they all like "bring it"

[ivory barn]

We have a mw that wanted to solo heal bosses

[harsh trellis]

I think most of our healers can do the job of 2 or 3

[autumn roost]

We consider ourselves a family, we've had the same like 19 core person roster for three tiers now and half of them have had issues that we've been understanding about

[undone beacon]

Typically on reclears people are much cleaner and more geared so theres less healing that needs to be done. With four healers and not much healing to do, nobody gets to heal parse (kek) and they kinda just stand there trying to snipe eachother's heals

[undone beacon]

Ah, I see. Thats super nice though

We've been through basically a full roster rebuild and have been dealing with the ramifactions of that

Mostly people being super impatient and refusing to improve and then being upset when we trial new people to keep a roster alive

[harsh trellis]

I feel yalls pain

[plush swallow]

Do class changes go live today?

[ivory barn]

"asks warlocks to turn and leave on burning rush"

We went through roster boss 3 times in 1 tier and said nope

[lone wren]

From a. Healer perspective I began mythic road pug this week and we did 2/4/14s and ALl healers parsed gray

[lone wren]

Tomorrow in the old world today in the colonies

[tribal wharf]

4 hours down time today

for ppl that didnt already know

[severe star]

servers are up

[tribal wharf]

i could be wrong

[toxic pewter]

oh wow they are up im logging in now

[tribal wharf]

HERE WE GO my best mario impression

time for vault

[toxic pewter]

hahah I read that in mario voice thats great

[coarse bay]

Vaults

[tribal wharf]

very shit vault lol

[toxic pewter]

yes got bracers on my warrior.. do i want to replace crafted bracers with myth bracers

[tribal wharf]

you know its sad when this is the best option i have

and t4his thing i guess too

[harsh trellis]

take that or the belt and cat it if you havent

[tribal wharf]

cuz i can take the boots to the thingy

and they will keep 3rd tier stat

and have haste

belt too,

[harsh trellis]

thats what I said

lol

[tribal wharf]

dont have to enchant belt lol

[lone wren]

Leech is leech no? Good extra stat

[tribal wharf]

i went with booties

[ivory barn]

Only thing I have left to "upgrade" is trinkets

[compact silo]

insane how no dps interrupts the banshee boss on WS when THEY'RE the ones dying

like doesnt a lightbulb come on in their head when that happens?

[stray sonnet]

Are Prot warriors the 2nd most tankiness tanks after bear?

After bear and monk*

[upbeat plover]

No

Okay uhhh. Maybe

[stray sonnet]

I don’t like bear, they’re wheelchairs. And have no interest in monk tanks

I see

[upbeat plover]

The other tanks are more or less in the same boat?

Paladin might be after bear and brew?

I heard hype about their buffs before it happened. Haven't heard much since

[stray sonnet]

I see. I’m trying to learn the hits and routes on 18-19’s. Tanking 16-17’s are a joke with a good group and I don’t get hit that hard

But yea I don’t wanna just fall over

[upbeat plover]

Such is the way of things

[tribal wharf]

trinket is 100% for me if i do 2 spires

[upbeat plover]

I pug so 17s and 18s have been hell

But I'm brew

[stray sonnet]

Like pallies and bad demon hunters. Those two classes always seem to flop over

[harsh trellis]

Ret pugs this weekend stood right on top of me

It was annoying

[stray sonnet]

I don’t raid on my warrior unfortunately so I’m stuck with m+ trinkets only

[harsh trellis]

Bird boss in aa. I had a buddy standing right on top of me I'm not used to

[ivory barn]

Until you divine toll last boss of npx

[harsh trellis]

Lol

[stray sonnet]

I think paladins are by far the weakest tanks defensively this season. They yoyo like crazy without the benefit of dk runes

[upbeat plover]

In a 17 Seat had a ret stack and follow me with the chain, rather than freedoming or getting off of me. He died before I could tiger lust it

Homie literally followed me

[flint oriole]

was a buff in the weakly reset

[ivory barn]

Believe so

[lusty grotto]

Is that a question

[ivory barn]

#updates-midnight message

[final jackal]

lmao

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

The reset is weak also

[fringe mural]

weakly

[lusty grotto]

[fringe mural]

Blizz and their weakly resets smh

always the same with them

[lusty grotto]

[fringe mural]

i'm still waiting for that

[ivory barn]

weak or week

[fringe mural]

no the weekly

tomorrow

[lusty grotto]

But is it a question

Today

Stupid EU

[fringe mural]

how is that our fault

[lusty grotto]

[ivory barn]

[lusty grotto]

Eat our shorts

[fringe mural]

stupid blizzard seperating resets

[lusty grotto]

[fringe mural]

I'll just stop visiting dc on a tuesday

fucking early resets

[lusty grotto]

It's OK, you'll get the bug free version thanks to us

[fringe mural]

hmmmmm

[ivory barn]

Arcane mage is unplayable

[fringe mural]

okay that made me a wee less mad

[fringe mural]

who gaf about arcane, i wanna see flames

and pyros

[harsh trellis]

those are the fire mages

[fringe mural]

yes, yes they are

[harsh trellis]

the only real mage

cause of the original wow trailer

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-tealc-stargate-gif-4496552

[frosty mango]

“Bug free reduced”

[lusty grotto]

[upbeat plover]

It's better this way

[upbeat plover]

Yeah I saw. I've got my connections

[plush tendon]

there are dozens of arcane mages who are fuming right now

[fringe mural]

so it's even worse

i thought arcane deals no dmg

now it deals no dmg AND drains mana

sacrilege

[upbeat plover]

A side effect of this will be it dealing no dmg

So you're kinda on top of it

[fringe mural]

i mean they deal less than no dmg now

so it's worse

[harsh trellis]

Lol

[fringe mural]

they heal the boss

no for real, is any spec besides frost viable in s1? I don't think so

[final jackal]

[upbeat plover]

I see your point and agree. Let's nerf frost immediately

[plush tendon]

isnt there a fire mage one trick whos timed some 19s/20s?

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/mascot-angry-gif-20556475

[fringe mural]

He's the chosen one

[final jackal]

more than one im sure

[ivory barn]

and the weekly is x4 dungeons

[fringe mural]

you can buy a boost for 19/20 so anything is possible

even arcane timing 19's

[final jackal]

okay i checked and theres only 8 fire mages that have timed some/all 20s

[fringe mural]

the hateful eight

so full of hate frost isn't an option

[ivory barn]

the fucking box has been found

[fringe mural]

probably warrior alts

[final jackal]

is it even good for prot?

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/seven-brad-pitt-box-whats-in-the-box-gif-3386206

[plush tendon]

its ok

[final jackal]

side note - which ui is that

[plush tendon]

not a amaze balls

[ivory barn]

I built it

[final jackal]

looks clean, i like that chat box

[ivory barn]

chatynator

plates are still a sore subject tho

unless you have SB up can you even block during box?

[final jackal]

if im not terrible at playing prot, at what ivl should i be able to do 16s? 260ish?

[undone beacon]

You can’t block at all during the cast

[plush tendon]

whatever I level you need; there was bound to be people going that high week 1

but also, this late into the season, the focus should be on maxxing your toon first

then starting the push

since we are at what, 12 bonus rolls? uncapped crests? 5+ crafts?

[final jackal]

makes sense

[plush tendon]

you can legit deck a new toon out in mostly 285/289 loot

[undone beacon]

This week there’s 12? Rerolls available or so. You can clear out the loot pool of an entire dungeon and get tons of myth gear

Then craft in what you’re missing and you’re set aside from crest grinding

[plush tendon]

yea, but if you are fully fresh with no geared toons

the crest grind is quite daunting

we talking what, 960-1000 crests?

[undone beacon]

More even

100 crests to get a slot from myth 1/6 to 6/6

And there’s 14? 15 slots?

[plush tendon]

LOL

yea, thats fucking daunting

[ivory barn]

umm

isnt it 50 for alts

[plush tendon]

the assumption we made was a for a fresh toon

with no discounts

[undone beacon]

If you have myth of the dawn

[plush tendon]

^

[undone beacon]

And that slot upgraded on the main

[ivory barn]

oh, fuuck dat

[plush tendon]

yea, I dont even know how you convince someone to do that grind

[ivory barn]

i have myth of the dawn and that upgrade is still

[plush tendon]

wtb Myth crest catch up mechanic

[undone beacon]

Plus there’s no discount for crafted gear still so

Each craft is still full price

You’re looking at about 94 +12s to get enough myth for full 6/6 myth gear set

With all 1/6 myth drops from rerolls

[final jackal]

In my case its for my Prot Warr alt but I only have Hero of the Dawn, got tired of my Brew before decking him out

I'll keep farming Seat 🙁

[plush tendon]

honestly, if you are that far behind

its a 100% take the season off

and not try and max gear

[ivory barn]

my mage hit 90 last night, 170

[final jackal]

For sure, Im gonna take it ez just want to get 3400, which i think is all 16s? Hence the question about what ilvl i can start running them

[fringe mural]

on your own keys earlier than on pug keys

If you even get invites

you probably need to have 285+ to get invites depending on time of day

[naive ravine]

Isnt it normal to have grinded 1,2 k mythic crest on all my alts?

[fringe mural]

no

[naive ravine]

Do I have a problem?

[upbeat plover]

Yes

[fringe mural]

Depends

Do you have a partner and/or kids that do not run those keys with you? Then yes

[naive ravine]

Its only 4 chars tho

So no big deal

[fringe mural]

Have you been laid off because you came tired to work? Then yes

[naive ravine]

I work for my dad

[frosty mango]

clearly we are still underperforming and need more buffs

someone tell blizz

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-rookie-numbers-gif-20904132

[frosty mango]

imagine how much better I would have done if I didnt roll low on the dps

[lusty grotto]

I don't cause thunder blast clearly needs an 8th buff

[frosty mango]

yes please

[lusty grotto]

[frosty mango]

monks and bears are destroying us, its a travesty

[lusty grotto]

[final jackal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pray-praying-prayer-26n7937SwZkal2Oju

[frosty mango]

73 cpm is spiteful tho

[fringe mural]

That's just big boy allowance then

i mean if you're not tired at work it doesn't really matter who you work for

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/sa-skull-and-bone-skull-and-bone-star-atlas-pirate-sa-pirate-gif-26033660

[spare estuary]

How is prot performing? I will finally join the midnight gang now that I’ve upgraded my pc and looking to have some fun with m+ after the story

[cold tapir]

It's good

[spare estuary]

Torn between my war and my dh like always

[lusty grotto]

Neither are meta so trash clearly

Memeing aside, we're fine

So is vdh

Idk what people are expecting when they ask things like this

[ivory barn]

Unless you plan to do +23's prot is fine

grabs mdi pull and complains

[heavy sparrow]

[spare estuary]

Not expecting much but just like to turn to the experts and I’ve seen 2x we’re fine so I have what I need

[drowsy comet]

Its so freaking hot

[ivory barn]

Damn it they already fixed arcane mage

[final jackal]

Welcome to the thunder buddies

Petition to rename the channel to that

[undone beacon]

This game really wants me to take Void Stalkers Contract, shown up two weeks in a row

Stinky lazy vault

[jagged pier]

Looks like extra rerol to mr

[undone beacon]

I've only used 6 of the 12 rerolls on this char so an extra might not even be needed to get what im missing lol

Sims say to take the crit vers ring

[stable raft]

out of curiosity would you take tough as nails for alot of mobs melee hitting you or primarly bosses?

[jagged pier]

lots of mobs

[lofty warren]

6% dps buff for pwar meanwhile their dps like 15-20% behind. Even with perfect reflects still not gonna compete with bear only pressing 3 buttons

[stable raft]

When is best to pick up bloodsurge?

[jagged pier]

u pick that as well

so all the time

[harsh trellis]

no time like the present

Also.... go treat yo self to + 3 stamina on gloves

[stable raft]

do you switch builds every dungeon or do you have a same build ?

[undone beacon]

There are swaps you can make per dungeon

Such as Armor Spec vs FTTF for heavy phys vs heavy magic dungeons

[harsh trellis]

Jamarr, I am going to assume youre specced as thane?

[stable raft]

Yes sir

[harsh trellis]

there are some things you can swap from key to key

[undone beacon]

The typical swaps are Armor Spec for FTTF, Bloodsurge for BSV, and EA for Indom (though that one is contentious)

[stable raft]

not running BSV in like a 19 though? i guess somedungeons you can get away with it

[undone beacon]

If you're confident in your ability to not die you can drop BSV but most people run it because its good

[harsh trellis]

it is good

[undone beacon]

Thane already generates oodles of rage so BSV has a lot of value over Bloodsurge

[harsh trellis]

also what keys are you running atm?

[stable raft]

pushing in to the 19s

[harsh trellis]

oh I would keep bsv

[undone beacon]

Pwarr doesnt do a lot of swaps from dungeon to dungeon on either tree. Theres the few i mentioned on the spec tree, and on class tree its things like dropping Crackling Thunder when running Seat, or speccing Piercing Howl over Intim Shout to help in Skyreach

Otherwise its pretty consistent

[harsh trellis]

get rid of crackling thunder for seat

[fringe mural]

i mean you don't have to really

[undone beacon]

Thats what I said

[fringe mural]

you just stay where the champs are and you're golden

[undone beacon]

I mean it actively makes the key more punishing for zero gain

And makes it harder to chain

But you dont have to

[fringe mural]

true

[plush tendon]

yea, but then I have to go into my talents

and swap things around

[fringe mural]

Especially the pull on the 2nd void guy

[plush tendon]

[fringe mural]

if you pull the champs to him

[undone beacon]

have the builds set up and then have a macro to swap them and your xmog at the same time

Have a talent build and xmog for each key

[lusty grotto]

if you have classes that already slow, you shouldn't drop it

[plush tendon]

you right, I should have a different mog for each dungeon

[lusty grotto]

either way you shouldn't run with champs or with scissors

[undone beacon]

Its all about the immersion

[fringe mural]

i full on imagine you having an xmog for each key

[plush tendon]

yea ok, who are you my kindergarten teacher

[fringe mural]

i'd be surprised if you didn't tbh

[fringe mural]

lol

[lusty grotto]

yes

[fringe mural]

he is mrs willis

[lusty grotto]

Mr. Willis to you

[fringe mural]

augusto she's here

[fringe mural]

all part of the camouflage

[undone beacon]

Mystery Willis, the Third

[fringe mural]

as if he had a male kindergarten teacher

lol

[lusty grotto]

you know what, you're right

that'd be fucking weird

[ivory barn]

We just start calling people it's now

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1481375328038424617/image0.gif

[plush tendon]

I didnt have my first boy teacher till late middle school

until then, I didnt know that boys could be teachers

[undone beacon]

now im trying to remember, i dont think i had a male teacher until like 5th grade

hmmm

[harsh trellis]

5th grade here also

1 male teacher in the school besides the PE coach

my elementary school pe coach is a vampire also.

[plush tendon]

girls were teachers, boys were firefighters

duh

[lusty grotto]

massive neck?

[undone beacon]

hm yeah i guess my PE "teacher" was a dude in like 1st grade

[harsh trellis]

I miss elementary pe

parachute fun

dodgeball

[stable raft]

are you guys mainly ITF enjoyers or HR

[ivory barn]

They got rid of dodgeball after people for concussions lol

[lusty grotto]

ITF is superior rage gain and dps, so the goal all expansions are to find a healthy level where we can individually manage SB with it, while my pinned message posts minimum requirements for the swap, its not something you wanna hard swap to if youre not comfortable

every s1, we determine this swap amount, but its up to you to decide if you can handle it at that point or not

[stable raft]

i think i kinda need to just suck it up and get good

[heavy sparrow]

470g on the AH rn

wild

[lusty grotto]

or just wait for s2

honestly it does not matter in s1

[plush tendon]

my rule of thumb right now between ITF and HR is this; for raid fights and M+ keys you are comfy in play ITF

if you are pushing a high key, play HR

[dusky canopy]

Pog! Gz

[lusty grotto]

yes but

[ivory barn]

I play hr for rage dumping

[lusty grotto]

kaboom

[plush tendon]

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-macska-cica-vomit-oklendez-gif-14738230240638170539

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496237160918155295/picmix.com_13676842.gif

[ivory barn]

I threw that in the 🗑️

[lusty grotto]

arms simming time i guess

but that neck is sexy

[plush tendon]

idk... that neck looks solid

[undone beacon]

Thats a giga neck

[plush tendon]

heavy crit/haste?

[undone beacon]

Big crit lil haste

[plush tendon]

perfect for the Arms War journey

[plush tendon]

lil haste is my rapper name

[undone beacon]

Thats a good one

[lofty warren]

"To not die" or "if you're overgeared for key and completing it in 12 min then drop bsv"?

[lusty grotto]

i guess ill look for a chim pug

[dusky canopy]

I’d take neck homie puzzle box is total ball sack

[undone beacon]

If I ever start a band we're gonna be called "Meat Theives" and our first album is gonna be "Gut Shot"

Because Gut Shot most painful way to die!

[plush tendon]

my hit single is gonna be called 'Sim yo self'

[dusky canopy]

Xdd

[undone beacon]

gonna record a wow parody of that bo burnham kill your self song called sim your self

[plush tendon]

Also, can we be a Christian Classic Rock Band that exclusively covers 90s Amish Hymes?

[dusky canopy]

Bro forgot to type keep yourself safe

[undone beacon]

I aint no bitch we dont self censor in this house

ahh? dihh? shut the fuck up

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whisky-gif-12800231005612919420

[ivory barn]

https://youtu.be/Xa8xiDaWqpg?si=HzFyPLcntdwo7TQH

[undone beacon]

🎵 Sim yourself, it'll only take a minute
You'll be happy that you did it
Just go over to your raidbots and shove your simc in it 🎤

[dusky canopy]

What are we shoving where!?

[undone beacon]

i think the original lyric relates to heads in ovens but

I digress

[plush tendon]

whats the beat

can we have a church choir in the background

[undone beacon]

great idea

added to the list

[plush tendon]

I wanna it to sound like Gangsta Paradise

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

oh my god i finally have grasped that emote

i thought it was frog

[lusty grotto]

what time do the good myth chim pugs start? later?

[undone beacon]

Prob around like 7 EST

[lusty grotto]

i just need my last bonus roll

[coarse bay]

Idk chim pugs are so hit or miss

But before work today was my first time trying a true pug so

[undone beacon]

Sorry we're not doing chim this week nim :(

[coarse bay]

That was bad

[plush tendon]

Tues/Wed/Thurs

[lusty grotto]

thats a given

[plush tendon]

after 7-8pm Est

that prime time

[lusty grotto]

yeah well looking like i wont raid for weeks now

[plush tendon]

guild on Lura prog?

[undone beacon]

We're planning on getting you belo time dont worry

[lusty grotto]

beloren

[plush tendon]

they not putting you in a Lura?

[fringe mural]

You know

[undone beacon]

Not at lura yet

[lusty grotto]

we're not there yet

[fringe mural]

I thought honestly

Puzzle box was more than a simple channel

[plush tendon]

I know, but Belo comp requirements must be super lax now

right?

[fringe mural]

like how pash hated on it

[lilac hazel]

Any advice on the first pull of academy

[plush tendon]

so you might as well bring Lura squad to Belo

[lusty grotto]

yes but im giga benched

[fringe mural]

i thought you had to do an actual puzzle

[plush tendon]

Enjoy it

[undone beacon]

Its more lax than it was but we just killed crown on sunday so we're fresh into Belo

[plush tendon]

I need my guild to finish Lura tonight or Thursday

[fringe mural]

should we tell them about the glorious work you do here

[plush tendon]

or my ass is grass

GF getting peeved

[undone beacon]

Shadow priest is kinda ass on Belo though if anything i should be benched and Nim should be in instead

[lusty grotto]

no cause i dont raid as prot 🙂 but pash is an officer so

[fringe mural]

Providing grumpy help to newbs and veterans alike

[plush tendon]

OMG! You two raid together!

thats soooo cute

[lusty grotto]

no, u

[fringe mural]

yeah you should date

oh wait

[undone beacon]

[lusty grotto]

no dating until i get PI

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

[fringe mural]

see pash it's that easy

[tribal wharf]

gpt says i have 16.67 (repeating of course) chance of getting BOTH trinket i might want today from seat (1/3 bonus roll remain) and spire (1 of 2 bonus roll)

[fringe mural]

The way into his pants is through power infusion

[undone beacon]

The way into any wow player's heart is PI

[lusty grotto]

i will miss you my sweet

[undone beacon]

🫡

[tribal wharf]

pretty good one

[lusty grotto]

im jk honestly PI is windwalker only 😄

[plush tendon]

imagine not having Crown Neck

couldnt be me

[fringe mural]

i have crown neck

Champ track though

still counts

i only need champ lura ring

then i can be champ bis with my champ gaze

sob

[plush tendon]

Peak preformance

granted, I still need like 3 of those voidcores for my plume

but we are # Done

until the .7 patch

[fringe mural]

now you retire?

[plush tendon]

This toon is basically useless

forced onto the BDK

[harsh trellis]

whaaaaat

[plush tendon]

Bjorn now just does Void Assaults and Delves

[fringe mural]

sad

[undone beacon]

Only thing im missing is a socket on my wrist, next week tho

[fringe mural]

see this is why you raid as raid lead and not as some scum that has to eat raid lead decisions

smh

[undone beacon]

No raid leading is miserable

[fringe mural]

only if you are

it can be quite fun

[plucky pecan]

What website do you guys use for pathing, and what nameplates/profile?

[lusty grotto]

for routing you mean

[plucky pecan]

Yeah

[lusty grotto]

raider.io, keystone.guru, threechest.io

nameplates are whatever you prefer

some of us use plater, some of us use platynator

either is fine

[plucky pecan]

Alright, Thanks.

[undone beacon]

I decided to not raidlead this season after doing it in LoU and MFO, I wanted to bash my skull open with a rock after MFO

[coarse bay]

Platynator with jundies profile rise up

[undone beacon]

Platynator with Luxthos profile

[coarse bay]