#protection
coarse bay
cerulean tusk
Number of posts =/= time spent
coarse bay
Yappers
cerulean tusk
My point ^
round pendant
oh okay
tribal wharf
round pendant
That's insane
coarse bay
cerulean tusk
I yap a lot, in all the channels
coarse bay
Yogi will randomly send a lot of messages
tribal wharf
could be? i pop in and type a bunch of messages and then leave for like 3 hours 6 hours
coarse bay
tribal wharf
oh, i have more msg than that overall
warm plinth
like this
cerulean tusk
tribal wharf
round pendant
like this
I'm less bad about it in servers but in all my DMs I have like 50% more messages than my friends do because I press enter too much
ivory barn
warm plinth
tribal wharf
coarse bay
warm plinth
but tbf, I've been in here since Legion (though I left at one point for a while)
tribal wharf
almost like its not REALLY my favorite game ever lol
round pendant
less than 500 messages total about doom
There's more messages surrounding those messages that are also about doom but don't contain the word 'doom'
cerulean tusk
round pendant
no
coarse bay
round pendant
don't
tribal wharf
tree?
cerulean tusk
I was just agreeing, i do it too
I am just
tribal wharf
what
cerulean tusk
filling
ivory barn
281k for a token? I'd blow through that in a week
coarse bay
Woodcutting when
tribal wharf
oh ya lumber?
woeful stone
tribal wharf
i remember having a good old ranty crash out about lumber, and the state of wow
at midnight luanch
coarse bay
And being told we can cut trees
tribal wharf
let the demons loose that day
cerulean tusk
Good thing Yogi is a changed man
tribal wharf
i was mad about the entirity of wow, but ya lol
tribal wharf
like the repair bill thing
im not gunna get into the god damn lumber thing
but that truly does piss me off
crude notch
Do I win?
coarse bay
Yogi i heard u have a nice desk
cerulean tusk
STOP
tribal wharf
i need/want slutty desk TM
cerulean tusk
YOU MAKING IT WORSE
crude notch
Lmao
cerulean tusk
nice white squares
tribal wharf
my attempts to fix pwar
undone beacon
This is a classic
autumn roost
I think I should write a boomers guide to prot warrior since nim is saying I'm doing it so well
ivory barn
Quest experience is being buffed
tribal wharf
how about if you do hard mode solo quest exp up
cuz hard mode world is coming
wont be much of an issue for capital G gamer
ivory barn
Hard mode sounds worse than legion heroic tier
tribal wharf
if it helps players to learn im all for it
cant just aggro 40 monsters aoe fest between 3 ppl takes 20 seconds
ivory barn
cant just aggro 40 monsters aoe fest between 3 ppl takes 20 seconds
Pull the entire zone vanilla style
stone tundra
It was like 4 ritualsite runs on highest level
But i did do them will challenges enabled
tribal wharf
besides leashing you really could od that as lvl 60 in lvl 17 dungeon stockades
due to way scaling was in pre 1.12
there was still a slight chance they might kill you
jagged pier
it takes like 2 hours
unlock all the challenges then just run on top tier with them all on
undone beacon
I just got enough accolades while doing the void assault meta achieve
Since you have to do 50 of the stupid assault WQs anyways
ivory barn
at least silvermoon isnt a slideshow for me anymore
final jackal
Took me 2 hours of t5 ritual sites as a brew
To get all of them?
ivory barn
Pash, it changed again lol. this is 100% the keeper
final jackal
Sounds like a perfect activity for the handheld.. Im afraid to tank M+/raid on it and have been strictly using it for xmog farming and leveling alts
autumn roost
To get all of them?
Yes
charred ivy
do you guys usually go full ring in skyreach in start? feels like hard and also hard not get hit in back there.
harsh trellis
do you guys usually go full ring in skyreach in start? feels like hard and also ...
What does that mean?
shrewd cosmos
Do you do whole platform
harsh trellis
before the first boss?
so before the first boss, is the entire room
the last boss I would not suggest pulling the entire platform
shrewd cosmos
No first pull
shrewd cosmos
Do you gather all of the platform or you split it in 2
harsh trellis
then there are the last 3 I just chain those into the 2 at the top of the stairs
then I pull all the casters and the big dude together
shrewd cosmos
I do the same
compact silo
does prot war have the lowest dmg of all tanks rn?
pala, druid and monk doing almost as much as dps
shrewd cosmos
Yes we do less dmg then other tanks
compact silo
sad
shrewd cosmos
Not in Seat but yes
compact silo
cuz of nails?
shrewd cosmos
Spell Reflect it is crazy in Seat
Also Pit if the group let you SR Liches Icy blast
Also Skyreach last boss 7 mil SR dmg
So yeah spell reflect is not calculated in Archon so don't pay too much attention on this site and play your game
charred ivy
man skyreach feels like such a shit as prot warri. trying get it on 16
many keys feel ez
this is shit
shrewd cosmos
You have 2 hard packs this dungeon
1 - st boss is AFK, 2-nd Boss AFK, 3-th Boss - move from the egg then AFK, 4-th boss Spell Reflect
frosty mango
So yeah spell reflect is not calculated in Archon so don't pay too much attentio...
Wdym it’s not calculated on archon
shrewd cosmos
Sry my bad
frosty mango
Archon just just a log aggregator, it absolutely accounts for spell reflect
It’s bad for other reasons, don’t get me wrong
lol
shrewd cosmos
It is calculated there but not in sims
frosty mango
It is calculated there but not in sims
Why would SR be in a sim though, it’s not predictable
shrewd cosmos
I know my point was different I was trying to explain something else
frosty mango
We do not do significantly less damage than other tanks, looking at logs doesn’t tell the entire picture, because there are overwhelmingly less warrior parses than monk and Druid
Probably fair to say that most of the people playing warrior are playing it sub optimally which drives logs down given the low number of parses
We definitely could use a little love but the sky isn’t falling and people think pwar is somehow vastly below other classes doesn’t do us any favors
For example if I pick a random key (Windrunner 16) and pick the rank 50 pwar parse which is 99%, that dude wasted 15% of his rage and had 71% blocked hits, so objectively he played terribly
Yet got a 99 parse bc of low representation
dusky sentinel
The fact that u need to que up for 15 dungeons on +10 to get invited cause "warrior is bad" kinda proves everything u need to know
frosty mango
Yeah and that sentiment is precisely because people say shit like “oh Druids are crushing us” without looking at any data whatsoever
undone beacon
Something something community perception built on content creators and aggregate sites something something
charred ivy
Yeah and that sentiment is precisely because people say shit like “oh Druids are...
but isnt druid better tho? had a friend swap he said druid was way easier and better . and this was from a very good player doing 18+ keys
plush tendon
but isnt druid better tho? had a friend swap he said druid was way easier and be...
yes, druid is currently better in M+, but the argument is that Prot War is not way behind
also, the current iteration of guardian is literally just thrash-moonfire-ironfur
tbh, its a pretty degen build that people are playing and blizz has already confirmed that it wont be staying
frosty mango
but isnt druid better tho? had a friend swap he said druid was way easier and be...
Easier? Yeah probably because they have some idiot level build that is unintended where they just spam the same three skills
Better? I guess that depends on how you define better but imo a well played prot warrior is not really behind a well played Druid in any meaningful sense.
If you put all of the top tier Druid and brew players on warrior then logs would flip to warriors doing more damage because skill/meta gaming is a much bigger driver of dps than tank dps balance which honestly hasn’t been bad for some time (barring the week of wierd Druid buffs we had this tier)
verbal lance
hey guys, kinda noob prot warr here and I feel like the spec is a lot of fun but tbh I am looking to see if I can macro some keys together to make it easier on my keybinds (and wrists) - I've seen some people macro SB to Shield Slam, is that really viable? also could I macro IP to slam or clap, for example, without gimping the spec entirely or losing too much control?
plush tendon
hey guys, kinda noob prot warr here and I feel like the spec is a lot of fun but...
none of us here would recommend doing any of that
frosty mango
hey guys, kinda noob prot warr here and I feel like the spec is a lot of fun but...
You should not macro skills together, someone will explain why in a sec if I don’t get to it
plush tendon
the only macro that is acceptable is adding SS to your IP button
so you can snipe SS resets
plush tendon
also, if you are having wrist pain, thats a hardware and position issue
which we cant address
but you should for sure look into fixing that with a new keyboard or something else
frosty mango
hey guys, kinda noob prot warr here and I feel like the spec is a lot of fun but...
Macroing sb to ss will be “easier” in lower level content you would likely not see a real difference but as content level climbs, the small gaps in shield block that it would lead to will become much more noticeable. Doing this in raid is a sizable issue as well on some fights.
Macroing ip to thunderclap is the other common one and this will just lead to you rage starving yourself and not being able to press shield block when needed
Doing this in a 7-10 is one thing and probably won’t lead to a major issue
Doing it in a 17 or 18 will be very noticeable because you’ll die
harsh trellis
man skyreach feels like such a shit as prot warri. trying get it on 16
do you have any logs of your run?
ivory barn
Gonna go attempt warrior in hardcore
jagged gust
Eewww
ivory barn
Guild doesn't think I'll make it to level 10
jagged gust
Do you know how long it takes to get a warrior to 10 in vanilla? 🤢
ivory barn
Yes, I played vanilla
frosty mango
Do you know how long it takes to get a warrior to 10 in vanilla? 🤢
Yes, about 4 minutes, the duration of the boost
Get an extra 48 levels too
jagged gust
I got to level 6 before I quit 😂 just running back and forth across the map for quests
frosty mango
Leveling in classic is for the birds lol
round pendant
I don't understand people wanting crutches
When I was learning to ride a bike as a child I wanted to get off of training wheels as fast as possible so I just didn't use them
round pendant
I got to level 6 before I quit 😂 just running back and forth across the map for...
Weak
verbal lance
Macroing sb to ss will be “easier” in lower level content you would likely not s...
shit well thanks for the thorough explanation, I guess I can at least try binding IP to mouse scroll up so it'd hopefully help with spamming that
autumn roost
hey guys, kinda noob prot warr here and I feel like the spec is a lot of fun but...
The official answer is no. The realistic answer is that I am also new the class and am tanking lura with stuff macrod and having no issues
96% uptime on sb
I'm old and cannot maintain the apm necessary to play prot warrior in its current iteration and use that macro and have no issues
frosty mango
96% uptime on sb
Uptime is not a relevant metric
Not for shield block
Uptime while in combat is
Small gaps have large implications
autumn roost
It's good enough to time vibe 16s where I have no idea what I'm doing and to tank mythic lura. I absolutely believe you that for extremely optimal play you lose something with those small gaps, but realistically it's having no effect on my ability to do these encounters
And if someone is saying that the mashing of ib is causing them physical pain, then I think telling them to get gud is not a helpful response
frosty mango
We didn’t say git gud and that’s not what he said
autumn roost
"make this easier on my wrists"
"if you are having wrist pain, that's a hardware and position issue which we can't address"
fringe mural
he's having wrist pain because of his hand and arm position not because of ip
i have ip bound to my mousewheel so no matter how many ips i have to use, i'll never get wrist pain
spells you use a lot should be bound to keys that are easy on your joints
jagged gust
Yeah arm height to desk is the culprit for me
verbal lance
ye tbf they did say it's probably a hardware issue, which is fair, I didn't really read that as "git gud" just more of a "nothing we can do" which is probably true
fringe mural
for example ss is really often used and is in my case bound to 3
but any key that will not have you move the fingers a lot around is fine
so anything near wasd
Where your left hand should rest
or the cursed bind one key to the right
verbal lance
but your response @autumn roost is kind of reassuring? maybe I'll try something macro'd out and if I can stilll do the content I wanna do then why not take the small optimization hit
frosty mango
ye tbf they did say it's probably a hardware issue, which is fair, I didn't real...
I also said if you’re running lower level keys then it probably wouldn’t have a high impact and gave specific examples
autumn roost
but your response <@190271915041095690> is kind of reassuring? maybe I'll try so...
I only leveled a week ago and was able to tank 16s and do mythic lura with no problem
I agree it's suboptimal but IDC if it is if it makes my life easier and does the content I need to do
warm plinth
Recommendations don't take accessibility into account anyway. If you HAVE to do something or you can't even play the spec, then who tf are we to say you shouldn't?
autumn roost
Recommendations don't take accessibility into account anyway. If you HAVE to do...
That's kind of my point ye
crisp ocean
whats the addon that gives a summary of the dungeon after its done?
verbal lance
I only leveled a week ago and was able to tank 16s and do mythic lura with no pr...
can you share some of the macros that you're using if you don't mind?
autumn roost
Just one lol and they're going to yell at me for it
Mash that and thunder clap and vibe
I want to stress again that they're absolutely right that it's suboptimal but I'm okay with that
autumn roost
My healers DPS in my keys lmao
In my pit, my third day as prot warrior, "you are the sturdiest prot warrior I've played with" lmao
frosty mango
whats the addon that gives a summary of the dungeon after its done?
Details used to do this I dunno what does it now
sharp gale
In my pit, my third day as prot warrior, "you are the sturdiest prot warrior I'v...
Do you play with Into the fray in keys ?
I suspect most of the bad rep is bc of that talent + literally no hand players
sharp gale
Yeah in raid it’s not that big risk
frosty mango
I’m not sure it’s possible to die in raid as a tank without standing in bad or messing up a mechanic
sharp gale
without ?
I can already take almost every spell in my face as fury, I think ppl need to rly want it to die as tank due to dodge mechs
frosty mango
That’s what I mean
Like unless you eat a bad taunt mech or stand in omega bad I don’t think you can die
Even if you press no buttons
sharp gale
On Lura I can take a glaive in my face if I pot in the middle
chrome linden
Anyone have any links to tank centric guides to the raids?
lone turret
anyone got any cool solutions for making shield charge and charge the same keybind but also function properly?
lusty grotto
you can use modifiers
but these 2 spells arent the same thing
charge is your gap closer, SC is a nuke/SB provider
silk pagoda
hi all, preferred dungeon to use bonus rolls on for prot warrior?
silk pagoda
no no, just not a prot player usually
lusty grotto
so im guessing you dont have myth weapon and shield
silk pagoda
i do not no
lusty grotto
seems pretty simple to figure out then
there's 2 dungeons that award both
you hit one of those
silk pagoda
alright, then i guess just hit others for other gear if needed?
lusty grotto
once you get both shield and 1h, and whatever you got in between the rolls you can use droptimizer
in raidbots
and just do the one that has the most upgrades
silk pagoda
will do, appreciated thank you
crisp ocean
Details used to do this I dunno what does it now
not only damage done n stuff
lone wren
what 2 to choose for learnign keys 10-12
lusty grotto
thats a sim question
lusty grotto
no
fringe mural
are they decent for dps if i even find a hc two hander?
The heart of wind and solar flare prism are decent fury trinkets, though algethar puzzle box is much better than both
jagged gust
That's how the furry pipeline starts
deft relic
how are you feeling the survivability ?
not so bad except SR bleeds and Nexus point left side
stoic hound
sims say Acuity of the Ren'dorei is superior to Berserker's Rage but considering haste increases survivability, I'm not sure if I should follow sim, what weapon ench do you use? I checked top prot warriors and only 1 out of 7 uses berserker rage
undone beacon
STR >> Haste > crit ~ mast ~ vers
stoic hound
ok thank you guys
maiden ravine
I hate that I've gotten addicted to having glide as warrior
wooden spruce
are dracthyrs racials good for warrs? mainly pve
jagged gust
The knockups are nice to have but the long CDs make them a bit more niche in usage, movespeed is fantastic for tanks in general
It's no dwarven bleed removal but it's not a bad race either
wooden spruce
im dont wanna play dwarf tbh and im thinking of going human (again) but scalies got my attention only for the glade lol
jagged gust
Yeah I'm not enjoying my dwarf anymore, the mogs are just... Awful
jagged gust
wooden spruce
tribal wharf
dwarf has some of the better options for transmog
put a pair of bracers on gnome, its going to be 23 pixels total
jagged gust
It's the shoulders constantly clipping into my gloves that bothers me the most, but also weapons clipping into the ground and everything looking squished
tribal wharf
put it on the cow andits gunna have horns sticking out of your helmet
wooden spruce
nah i played dwarf till cata, its nice to change races
but i dunno if i should do the best fantasy game class, plain human fighter or go scalie route haha
jagged gust
I mean scalie has both, vibe check it
sullen palm
can anyone link a full damage talent set ?
wooden spruce
I mean scalie has both, vibe check it
yeah, downside is no true visage mog but you still play like a more humanoid elf but with horns
dunno haha
harsh trellis
can anyone link a full damage talent set ?
for colossus?
sullen palm
mt
jagged gust
Should have a racial to turn you into one of the big boys while flying
wooden spruce
what do the boyz and girlz say? human or gekko
wooden spruce
hmm true
i was only gonna go human for the stun removal tbh
maiden ravine
Plus you can do the Skyreach skip more easily
sullen palm
for colossus?
amt
maiden ravine
I'm a weirdo who likes Dracthyr forms
I think my warrior looks great in both her forms plus you can set outfits for each now
undone beacon
Being able to have a different outfit for visage and drac is super nice
Means I can use both forms without looking like a total doofus
jagged gust
Warrior talents aren't really built for variety anymore, hard to drop anything to gain more DPS.
Defenders Aegis is the easiest point to drop
wooden spruce
arent human racials worth it thou? 2% extra in all
stable kernel
Dwarf or Human is the way
wooden spruce
gonna try drachtyr, i used gold on the race change so i'll see if i like it, if not im going back to human
maiden ravine
I'd rather take Vulpera's details bait racial over undead having nothing, same with Nightborne for non casters
open wedge
maiden ravine
?
crude notch
Eating corpses of the dead is 100% best racial hush yo mouf
lusty grotto
crude notch
did they change something about block ggoing into midnight?
crude notch
oh disregard i forgot how block works 🙂
bright oyster
hold on you're cooking
late trellis
for lura, if you're kicking using the macro, is there a way to position yourself on lura to where you don't just get stuck button mashing interrupt for 3 sec trying to kick?
coz of the short kick range
wooden spruce
whelp, im enjoying pwarr after ignoring my meta lover ex-friends, and its been so much fun
lone wren
Do reflect shield helps with magic damage dots too?
echo egret
I'm not a dwarf and I get bullied for splitting the first pull of AA in a 17... pugger's life is starting to get on my nerves.
echo egret
it is not dead because of Prot's kit. It is dead because of puggers themselves.
winged zenith
I switched this week and already doing 19s
Yes that why I said switch
Our gears are same
Just get 2h from pit using voidcores
maiden quiver
Just get 2h from pit using voidcores
This is unironically what im in the process of doing. Already used a bunch of cores in pit and going to force the 2h next week. Gear is basically identical, already have myth gaze and heart
winged zenith
yes pray prot is good next season
echo egret
I'm just impressed at the number of people who can't focus a skull target - who don't even analyze that killing that target will diminish the pressure on the group.
untold tangle
I'm not a dwarf and I get bullied for splitting the first pull of AA in a 17... ...
I hate this too. I do lower keys but I'd much rather split up the first pull and time the key than taking the risk
sharp rover
If you NEED to pull the entire room on a +17 to beat the timer then your team clearly has other issues
jagged pier
vital vale
there is a trick to pulling 3x lashers without dwarf and without aug pretty easily even in high keys
it worked for me like a charm
Just reroll guardian
celest mesa
I've seen some top prot warriors only tracking an ignore pain bar and not a shield block and shield wall bar also. Why is that?
stable kernel
Id rather die then not put the whole room
pull whole room and if you die leave and go another AA 
hollow patio
Tbf you can reset without being dwarf. Any evoker, paladin or spec with taunt works but it's not as easy as pressing dwarf ofc.
dry trellis
there is a trick to pulling 3x lashers without dwarf and without aug pretty easi...
Yes, play Colossus
main walrus
hello peeps, having a hard time getting to 285, can you tell me is it better to farm NXP and reroll or WS for trinket ? i have like 6 rerolls left, no luck in killing mythic first bosses with pugs, here's my char https://azerothcodex.up.railway.app/personnage/eu/ragnaros/Kardhouna
or should i just craft second ring and back ?
heavy sparrow
Look at that lil guy
lofty warren
How does he go through life without dwarf
main walrus
bearely
fringe mural
Look at that lil guy
Yeah he's so cute
mob groups be like Aaaaw we can't kill him
Come on guys let's just autohit and not cast to not be mean
main walrus
I mostly use toys because i'm too small to be seen
what about dungeons tho, should i go roll in NXP or Seat ?
undone beacon
main walrus
yeah ... thank you tho
past summit
on the first big pull in algethar, when should you kite?
blissful ravine
Yoo, Iam lf vods of a prot warrior that runs high keys where I could copy+pasta the pulls and gathering of pulls from. Iam especially interested in like the first 10 gcds and early movements of a pull 🙂
main walrus
on the first big pull in algethar, when should you kite?
I think what you should know is it takes 2.5 seconds to cast, and once it started you can't outrange it, so if you can take 4 5 stacks go away and get back in when it's at like 3 seconds left ? that's what i do
past summit
I think what you should know is it takes 2.5 seconds to cast, and once it starte...
yeah, but there's 3 of them so i cant watch all the casts
main walrus
they can't all start casting if you're away, and your aiming to get it to 0 stacks so it does not really matter who is casting
fringe mural
people here said a good course of action is jump away before the first 3 run out so you don't get 5
and then go back in
unkempt pebble
They dont cast at the same time
main walrus
if you're struggling at keeping them close at each other, try starting your pull from the center ( where the boss is ) and not running all the way from left to right
fringe mural
well they kinda do if you pull them right or not?
past summit
anyone know a good video of this?
past summit
I watched one by sha and he just said "make sure to pull them properly" ... but thats all he said
i will check topicx
unkempt pebble
Sha also showed how to kite
fringe mural
ah no it was awoo
minute 1
there he is showing how he does the pull
it was very thorough
the entire guide
unkempt pebble
Most important note is that your dps focuses on one lasher
So until one dies you can have evoker help you, or start kiting at 3 stacks
Kite until debuff has 3-4s remaining and it should reset before next one gets applied
past summit
kind of hard to get more than one kite since heroic leap cd is 30 sec
unkempt pebble
fringe mural
kind of hard to get more than one kite since heroic leap cd is 30 sec
if the first lasher doesn't die quickly enough, you have to kite once
if it's still not dead after that, your dps suck
it's not your fault then
if you have to kite twice you might as well reset
two lashers can only stack up to 3 iirc
not to 5
past summit
its pugs man, pugs dont know what they are doing
fringe mural
what difficulty are we talking about?
past summit
14-16
fringe mural
if it's that bad and the dps is fine you can always split the pull
time should still be enough
past summit
usually I run down a strategy with theam ahead of time, they fail to kill lashers and then they blame me for sucking
pugs.
so i am just looking for a way to deal with this shit so I can kite instead of this
coarse bay
You can also comm ahead of time to focus the marked lasher and put a skull on one
If thats what you expect from them
Pugs dont coordinate without coordination
past summit
yeah, i usually try to mark the 3 lashers
past summit
I go skull X triangle and tell them to focus skull
past summit
whats confusing about focus skull?
coarse bay
Theyre dumb
past summit
well clearly
coarse bay
I mean even when focus is called most specs dont have a way to prio without giving up pad i think
So people cant resist
past summit
i think what is happening is everyone always tries to burst their aoe to push their numbers instead of single target dps
coarse bay
Like he said if u do everything as best you can and it still fails
stoic hound
Sim says vers+mastery shield gives +50 dps compared to crit+vers one, I’m not sure which one should I upgrade to 298 regarding the better survivability
elfin plume
How does prot compare to a spec like brewmaster? I know brew is better but in what aspects is it better?
elfin plume
Kind of just wondering how prot feels right now. Use to play it a ton and want to again, but I am scared to invest the time gearing if it is really bad currently 😵💫 appreciate any responses in advance!
plush tendon
Sim says vers+mastery shield gives +50 dps compared to crit+vers one, I’m not su...
trust the sim
plush tendon
Kind of just wondering how prot feels right now. Use to play it a ton and want t...
Cant speak about brew from personally experience, but people I know who were playing it really enjoy it
likewise, I really enjoy Prot War, but Im not a fan of brew
elfin plume
Cant speak about brew from personally experience, but people I know who were pla...
From a few things ive seen, they are comparable in tankiness, just prot is a good bit worse on damage? Does that sound right?
ivory barn
If you enjoy it, play it. Unless you are pushing a R1 or 1% title doea it really matter
true idol
its more fun getting invites
elfin plume
If you enjoy it, play it. Unless you are pushing a R1 or 1% title doea it really...
I totally get that, but theres been times where prot is just leagues shittier than the rest of the tanks. Just wanting to avoid that lol
undone beacon
Prot isn’t leagues shittier, it’s fine. It’s not the meta pick this season but it’s viable enough to play well at a high level
tribal wharf
stoic hound
wow, just noticed, our damage gonna be buffed, cool
plush tendon
From a few things ive seen, they are comparable in tankiness, just prot is a goo...
somewhat
i havnt pushed high keys this season, but from a bit of osmosis learning I do know that the dungeon set this go around has some tough mechs for Prot War
also, Arms is very good so a lot of off meta groups are slotting a dps war making Prot even less popular
opaque oriole
Anyone know if the buff to colossus also includes revenge on ptr? 😃
Or only SS
Disregarding blue text
elfin plume
Anyone know if the buff to colossus also includes revenge on ptr? 😃
aint got a clue but your dog is cute
opaque oriole
aint got a clue but your dog is cute
Only when not digging holes
lone wren
also, Arms is very good so a lot of off meta groups are slotting a dps war makin...
Arms is better than fury ?
plush tendon
Arms is better than fury ?
yes
fury is viable, but arms does REALLY good aoe damage now
and, if you give em funnel
then can be good on bosses
lone wren
So far still noob nd learn protection but I struggle with those damn bleeds and dots.
harsh cypress
Dwarf for bleeding:DD
plush tendon
Dwarf for bleeding:DD
lone wren
Why the worse looking races have the best racials ?
Bring back unnerfed troll racials
echo egret
How do you approach the pulls in AA with several magical weapons ? My recent tries on +17 were "charge in, die in 1 second".
stoic hound
spell reflect on cd
coarse bay
are you charging in past them, getting backshot
and with no defensives?
those battleaxes hurt
dusty orchid
How do you approach the pulls in AA with several magical weapons ? My recent tri...
Kite the Axes - they are slow af
echo egret
are you charging in past them, getting backshot
That's highly likely, given how Blizzard handles charge nowadays.
frosty mango
fury is viable, but arms does REALLY good aoe damage now
The downside of this as prot is that arms requires a lot of crit to do better than fury
plush tendon
The downside of this as prot is that arms requires a lot of crit to do better th...
its not a huge deal
frosty mango
If you roll up to a boss with 1300+ haste and almost no crit you’ll do absolute dogshit boss dps
plush tendon
its basically just swapping neck and a ring
frosty mango
its basically just swapping neck and a ring
Yea that’s what I do
plush tendon
Fury wants Mastery so its the same deal
frosty mango
Yea but fury doesn’t suffer as badly as arms
You can be down bad as arms on bosses with bad crit lol
frosty mango
Yea collat is so big
Espec with how much ss uptime we have this tier
Fury requires no brain just unga bunga press cooldown
maiden ravine
The arms trick is just play slayer in keys haha.
stable kernel
ye i mainly play slayer cus i dont like doing 50k boss dps on colo if no funnel
compact silo
does tan deal damage when you dodge or parry?
strong forum
fringe mural
just go for haste/mastery, enjoy
and switch to fury with perfect stats if needed
no gear switch necessary 😄
If you wear puzzle box and solar flare prism you dont even need to swap trinkets, just weapon
fury has the same stat prio as blockmaster prot
critmaster prot is for arms enjoyers
it's pretty neat you just need to decide what offspec you like more
fallen fern
Anyone here know if you can still Immune the Aspect of the end cast in Mythic crown of cosmos?
solid sigil
Shield Block up 100% of the time is the goal. Where's that leave IG? Legit just use it as a rage spender? When I need to choose defense over offense (Revenge)? Is it possible to have IG up near 100% of the time?
lusty grotto
Anyone here know if you can still Immune the Aspect of the end cast in Mythic cr...
do you mean other classes?
fallen fern
do you mean other classes?
yeah I meant can you still do bubble taunt, but we killed it without so it's fine 🙂
lusty grotto
yeah we wouldn tknow
we just reflect it
youre in warrior disc not hammer of wrath
solid sigil
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148897941883584512/1481371263975...
Sweet, thank you!
fallen fern
we just reflect it
we can reflect it?
lusty grotto
it used to be
but it was removed from our reflect sheet so maybe it it doesn't work anymore
fallen fern
Let's hope so, so I don't have to feel stupid 🙂
undone beacon
Anyone here know if you can still Immune the Aspect of the end cast in Mythic cr...
They changed that, nobody can cheese the mechanic with immunes
They made that change like right after HoF VS closed
tribal wharf
blizzard trying to 1 shot my bank account
not that i only have 85$
cuz its the type of thing i might buy
heavy sparrow
blizzard trying to 1 shot my bank account
oh man, appreciate the share that's wild
vocal junco
I’ll have to check the shop, are there other patterns for key caps?
tribal wharf
sylvannas
i think they should do all the major major story characters illidian and malfurion tryande such
1 for each class would be cool
heavy sparrow
$120 CAD
tribal wharf
if u got the $ for it or just like it, sure go for it
uther for paladin, even though long dead, maybe anduin
valeera for rogue
harsh trellis
blizzard trying to 1 shot my bank account
meh
chilly brook
<@&257983573498265600>
past summit
are there any working threat meters right now, like Omen?
chilly brook
are there any working threat meters right now, like Omen?
are you like looking for TBC?
past summit
retail
chilly brook
There's an in game threat % that you can have show
past summit
yeah, I am looking for a meter like omen or details, not a tooltip
chilly brook
but threat is for the most part not even worth looking at unless there's a massive disparity between your damage and the other tank in raid
past summit
either one exists or it doesnt ... if anyone knows about one please let me know
chilly brook
past summit
feel free to dm me if someone sees this later
chilly brook
cerulean tusk
Same reason ppl want an addon to track IP numericaly. So Information for informations sake
Dont question it 
broken marsh
What enchants should I run? I saw a lot of leech recommend but a lot of the top players have avoidance
head/shoulders/feet
Notably mdi
frosty mango
Avoidance will get better as you go up because it’s percent based reduction on aoe
If you’re running lower/mid tier content in pugs leech will prob be fine - unless you’re running coordinated top end keys I’m not sure it really matters one way or another
broken marsh
What about myth raid
fringe mural
What about myth raid
when was the last time you stood in the fire
and the rest of the aoe that is supposed to kill your dps and healers will barely tickle you as a tank
i'd like speed to run out of stuff more tbh
frosty mango
i'd like speed to run out of stuff more tbh
This is what I play for raid tbh
Leech is great for parsing but shit for mechanics
broken marsh
how is it good for parsing
Wouldn't more uptime on boss via speed be better
Also how do I sim what gem is better, when I do this it doesn't actually sim anything
polar wedge
any tips for nexus point to help with all the heal absorb on the left side in keys around 16? Apart from using IV and SR on cd? Specific talents maybe? Idk if I have bad healers but it's hard, they can't keep up
broken marsh
FTF is good for that dungeon
harsh trellis
either one exists or it doesnt ... if anyone knows about one please let me know
its built into the default ui if you need
but also in platynator
but if youre lookin at threat theres an issue with play
frosty mango
how is it good for parsing
Bc you can usually eat small shit w leech as warrior
Like vorasius circle
broken marsh
You can eat that anyways?
coarse bay
but if youre lookin at threat theres an issue with play
He’s looking for an actual threat meter like in classic, which isnt something that can be done afaik
And is pointless
frosty mango
Yea but there particularly your healers will prob be out of range
broken marsh
Are you saying like w/o the leech you would die so you would do less dmg
frosty mango
Ya if someone is losing threat a meter ain’t gonna help lol
frosty mango
Are you saying like w/o the leech you would die so you would do less dmg
No you’d def still live but with a bunch of leech you’d pretty much bring yourself back up quickly
Again like I said I prefer speed I think it’s the superior tert almost always in raid
broken marsh
parsing = dmg tho so I don't see how that would help, in fact speed would be probably better for parsing there as you could dps ads then get back on boss faster
frosty mango
Don’t think the speed would matter for parsing there it would save you like 1 second
broken marsh
unless ur talking about the healing parse in which case idek xdd
undone beacon
You could make a million arguments for why each tert is "best" for parsing but the reality is none of them matter for parsing 
frosty mango
Helps a lot for doing mechs on prog tho
broken marsh
The difference b/w an 100 and 99 parse is a few .1%
undone beacon
The difference between a 100 and a 99 is rng
broken marsh
Kapppaaa
coarse bay
100%
undone beacon
More procs, more resets, more crits
polar wedge
FTF is good for that dungeon
Indeed I'll try that
coarse bay
Like 97+ is rng
undone beacon
Anything in the yellow/pink/orange range is pretty volatile
broken marsh
idk about hta
broken marsh
Ye but on prot warrior?
coarse bay
Rng in all specs
broken marsh
I find that a little hard to believe
broken marsh
Sure, I could maybe see the difference of like 99 to 100
coarse bay
Less crits
broken marsh
but you can 99 parse w/o rng and w/o perfect play
broken marsh
I have full 99 parses and I most certainly did not play perfect lol
undone beacon
full 99 on myth? crazy
coarse bay
Full 99 on heroic is literally just blasting with a guild
broken marsh
i dont think any of my 99 were with guild
Yea on average i did a little worse with guild
broken marsh
I mean there are consistent 100 parsers even in mythic so I don't think it is that rng, even for other classes
coarse bay
Ok for most people its rng
There are some people that parse extremely well consistently
broken marsh
That isnt how that works...
broken marsh
If they consistently parse well and are top players that means skill got them the parse. Not rng
broken marsh
I mean I know quite a few people who once they get the top parse dont try and push for it every time lol...
Like I got 99 parse on myth chimera and stopped caring about it, im sure plenty others feel the same
frosty mango
I tried for r1 parses in undermine on my Druid
I did eventually get them all but it was so rng
frosty mango
Well I didn’t get gally bc they were mean and made me do mechs
Oooh pretty
How’s it do for shadow
I have it on war and I use gloves to proc but it does like no damage. Tasty haste tho
undone beacon
Even on spriest the proc doesnt do much but the haste is so nice
and the bit of damage is nice
broken marsh
how do u sim gems this isnt working
undone beacon
are there gems in ur gear already
broken marsh
ye
undone beacon
Click on the + and hit "remove gem" in the sim
frosty mango
I wish raidbots had a public api
viscid lantern
hi , are icy veins and wowhead guides updated? Just started lvling my war. Thanks
viscid lantern
Use icyveins
tyvm
round pendant
Use icyveins
make me
crude notch
so when does blizz give up the bit and give us spell block back?
ivory acorn
winged zenith
Yes practice prot this season hope it will be better next season
lusty grotto
okie
opaque oriole
Is the healing from defensive stance in warcraftlogs the full value of stance mastery?
cold tapir
Is the healing from defensive stance in warcraftlogs the full value of stance ma...
it seems so, yes. I don't see any defensive stance healing on a fight where I did not have Stance Mastery talented.
lone wren
Ds wise what I did wrong and also how I see parried damage in a log?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HWmnd6gQkJb87v93?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=599
ionic fern
Ds wise what I did wrong and also how I see parried damage in a log?
https://ww...
You can see the parried attacks by hovering over the "Miss" %.
opaque oriole
it seems so, yes. I don't see any defensive stance healing on a fight where I di...
Is it just me or doesn’t it seem that strong on logs then?
ionic fern
Is it just me or doesn’t it seem that strong on logs then?
It reduces damage of attacks which deal 20% or more of your max health in damage. Aka the actually "dangerous" damage. We don't really get smacked by such attacks due to strong mitigation.
cold tapir
Is it just me or doesn’t it seem that strong on logs then?
Agree with Mwahi, also even if parts of the fight are not dangerous, then you can go battle stance and be a little more powerful there with the talent. It adds up over the course of the fight.
naive ravine
Stance mastery would suffer proabably from smth called survivor bias
naive ravine
The airplanes is one of the first itteration
naive ravine
(Corona is antoher great example)
naive ravine
Yeah
fringe mural
but in this particular case what do you mean, the people that didn't take it died from heavy tankbusters?
or the ones that didn't switch back to def stance in time
so they have no sucessful log to show
naive ravine
You would have to look at all the logs, even the ones that are not kills (progression) to see the true value of Stance mastery
Ofc the top logs without it have killed it
fringe mural
isn't that pretty much the case with bsv too?
naive ravine
Its not that fitting, its in a figurative
naive ravine
isn't that pretty much the case with bsv too?
Yeah
fringe mural
you'd have to compare the percentage of actual kills among people who took bsv vs those who don't
fringe mural
Okay i probably phrased that wrong
naive ravine
Its so ass to see in logs
fringe mural
i was saying you'd have to say the bsv takers have 90% kills of their tries and the non bsv takers have 70% or smth like that
opaque oriole
It reduces damage of attacks which deal 20% or more of your max health in damage...
So the talent only affects attacks after vers, SW and block and other mitigation etc. Like lethal blows?
fringe mural
then you know how much bsv is better than not taking it
naive ravine
Ah yeah know i get it
fringe mural
The only situation where you wouldn't need to factor that in is when half the people take it and the other half doesnt
then if you see more logs with def stance/bsv it's that much better because the completed kills show you
harsh trellis
I don't like the new icy veins look
fringe mural
I don't like the new icy veins look
okay
they're changing it back then
i find it confusing that it's not really icy anymore
just black
harsh trellis
they're changing it back then
for real?
fringe mural
for real?
Yeah for sure, i sent them a screenshot of your discord message and they said 'well, if nav doesn't like it, let's rewind it'
harsh trellis
Yeah for sure, i sent them a screenshot of your discord message and they said 'w...
Awesome, thank you. Let them know I appreciate their quick response to the matter.
fringe mural
Awesome, thank you. Let them know I appreciate their quick response to the matte...
Will do
untold tangle
Lol
ionic fern
Awesome, thank you. Let them know I appreciate their quick response to the matte...
They said "no,he did not say please". Sorry.
harsh trellis
They said "no,he did not say please". Sorry.
Apologies, Would you please, change the icy veins website back to how it looked prior? -Sincerely Capt Raymond Holt.
frosty mango
They had to redesign the site so all the wowhead refugees they hire have something to work on
harsh trellis
They had to redesign the site so all the wowhead refugees they hire have somethi...
wait wut?
frosty mango
Zam layoffs inc folks from wowhead, dont think its confirmed how many
But if they laid off the site director that’s probably indicative of something, can’t imagine they had a large staff
heavy sparrow
Wild times
sonic crag
They gonna make some money on that database sell though
fringe mural
hm
Is archim migrating over to iv then too?
so we can just forfeit wowhead as warriors completely
unreal shoal
Archim writes the guides for both
lone wren
T’amènes are better wowhead or icy veins?
undone beacon
We use Icyveins
wanton mason
Hi I am a traumatized former prot warrior who plays pretty much every other tank than prot war. Last I played it was during SL with the reprisal legendary where you had to charge/intervene spam for whatever reason. Is there any remnant of that left in the kit?
undone beacon
No
lone wren
We use Icyveins
Thanks
undone beacon
Charge generates rage but you're not bobbing and weaving like the Reprisal/Necro Banner days
wanton mason
Hmm but it doesnt generate it to the point where optimal play requires you to walk away/charge back in, right?
Cause that was dreadful
undone beacon
It does not. You have much more efficient rage generation from other sources
wanton mason
And otherwise back in the day I made a vulpera for nose of trouble cause it had pretty good value in m+. I'm guessing Dwarf is kinda a better choice now?
undone beacon
Dwarf is the M+ pick, but unless you're pushing keys in the 20 or up range it doesnt matter what race you pick
Vulpera is the wrong choice regardless imo but i am personally deeply biased against them
wanton mason
Been dabbling into 19s only so far on a few chars
Aye Idk maybe it's some sort of QoL feel
The output it shows in heal looks so high if anything
Must be nice on pulls which is where I often use CDs eitherway on other tanks
But yeah for AA alone I'll probs run Dwarf, cheers
undone beacon
Its inconsequential in the long run
But again most race picks are so
Pick what you vibe with most, or pick dwarf haha
wanton mason
Aye Idk I dont vibe with my tauren monk in AA 1st pull without an evoker unless I zoom through the map haha
Dwarf it is 🫡
harsh trellis
apparently they doubled the price of PSN
you dont buy PSN now
harsh trellis
Aye Idk I dont vibe with my tauren monk in AA 1st pull without an evoker unless ...
Just go colossus and sleep through the first pull
dont even need to race change
wanton mason
I'm not familiar with the hero talents since I last played in SL. Does it cleanse or sth?
harsh trellis
it just heals
wanton mason
And I'd make a new one so no need to buy any 😬
Ahh but surely cant sit through 5 stacks in higher keys tho
harsh trellis
for the first pull in AA you have to ask the group to stack tight on you
and then the puddles are all nice and tight
wanton mason
Yeah that's all fine
harsh trellis
have them all focus 1 laster
wanton mason
Of course
harsh trellis
and then just slowly back up with colossus
I dont even play thane anymore
its not worth the headache
and the omg im gonna effing die
undone beacon
To be fair, Thane is still the preferred talent set for pwarr in keys
wanton mason
What key levels you doing?
wanton mason
Yeahhhh okay
undone beacon
If you prefer Col and its working for you, thats good. But in higher keys Col doesnt cut it
wanton mason
Nah you get battered in higher keys by 5 stacks if the lasher dont die in time
harsh trellis
number 1 prot war is colossus
wanton mason
After ur cds
undone beacon
Theres one guy playing Col at highest level and thats great for him but
For the vast majority Thane is going to perform better with the kit it has and the design of the dungeons
harsh trellis
Right, its always best to play with the playstyle youre comfortable with
and im not sellin an mlm or anything for colossus, I just found it worked better for me
naive ravine
Archim writes the guides for both
No he does not write the icy veins guide
undone beacon
Colossus pyramid scheme
naive ravine
Its mwahi
undone beacon
Fuckin cutco colossus
pastel summit
frosty mango
If you prefer Col and its working for you, thats good. But in higher keys Col do...
I dunno if thats true, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with colossus that would make it so it wouldn't work at any key level since the primary driver there is defensive
thane will definitely get you more damage
undone beacon
No he does not write the icy veins guide
He writes the dps warrior guides
frosty mango
demolish big brrrr though
naive ravine
Oh
undone beacon
thane will definitely get you more damage
And damage is a factor in high keys as well, thus
Thane remains the reccomended option
harsh trellis
Demolish is your big dps and heal
undone beacon
I didnt say Col doesnt cut it defensively, it just doesnt tend to bring more to the table than Thane does
harsh trellis
Can you share where u found that info?
naive ravine
Cuz rank 1 prot war is playing MT
frosty mango
And damage is a factor in high keys as well, thus
imo the damage disparity is not enough to matter, well played colossus will do a lot of damage bc you can pull around your demolish but still I do agree with you generally thane gonna be better for like 99.9% of people
undone beacon
Roid dont argue semantics with me cmon
frosty mango
cant you arent a bear anymore
naive ravine
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-character-realm-rankings/season-mn-1/us/stormrage/...
Why would you only look at US and OCE?
frosty mango
get out of here whitebar
frosty mango
harsh trellis
Why would you only look at US and OCE?
I do not care about the rest of the world outside
undone beacon
My crown parse was gigashit and we're not going back to crown for a while so, that'll be a stain on my record until we reclear lol
tribal wharf
you dont buy PSN now
is it like xbox live now
where you always have silver for basic and plus , or gold for advanced, and i guess like streaming maybe, i see ps5 has game streaming
harsh trellis
in a key atm
harsh trellis
is it like xbox live now
if you want psn
just wait for their sales
and you can stack
tribal wharf
he said he just had to log in and the price went to normal
but he shared a screenshot where logged out the price was literal double
harsh trellis
I've been with xbl since alpha and its also pretty good
tribal wharf
i think xbox is the lesser of 3 evils
harsh trellis
2002 "I've got great hands"
tribal wharf
in general
harsh trellis
Its certainly more robust and less robusted than m365
frosty mango
Xbox has pc game pass which if you enjoy games generally is insane value
tawdry herald
did Avatar previously have a root/snare removal component on it?
or some talent that was removed?
jagged pier
it got removed from avatar this expansion
vocal junco
Ah the highs and lows: I love how some days I’m a key bricking machine and I’m told to quit tanking and other days I’m timing keys left and right
ivory barn
Ah the highs and lows: I love how some days I’m a key bricking machine and I’m t...
The joys of tanking
ivory barn
4 hours tomorrow lol god damnit
Class fix/tuning pass
Warrior will have a - tblast instead of +
harsh trellis
Ah the highs and lows: I love how some days I’m a key bricking machine and I’m t...
Right on.. thane or colossus?
And what level keys?
fringe mural
Archim writes the guides for both
Then i'll just use icy veins for everything thanks
also pumps has updated the 12.0.5 guardian guide so the guide writers seem to be active on iv outside of warrior too
unreal shoal
Oops, I thought this was one of the dps channels T_T
I'm not sure which superhero writes the prot guides
fringe mural
no, we don't do that here
vocal junco
Right on.. thane or colossus?
Thane, mix of 16/17s
tawdry herald
it got removed from avatar this expansion
does prot have any snare/root breaks now?
tawdry herald
yeah that sucks, i dont think ive even seen tank get targeted by the DoT in Pit. so its only useful for the Chains, which arent a huge issue for the tank anyways?
i guess the circles on left side NPX if tank can get that, never paid attention if it targets them or not
the verbiage says "movement-speed impairing effects" and not "movement impairing effects" which sounds like a distinction between slows and roots respectively
so if it only removes slows blizz really hates warriors
lusty grotto
yeah that sucks, i dont think ive even seen tank get targeted by the DoT in Pit....
youre correct
npx slows dont target tanks unless the group is dead
its just chains
and chains themselves deal jack shit damage to tanks until much higher keys
stray sonnet
does prot war have more surviviability than blood dk?
stray sonnet
for m+
stray sonnet
let's say 20s
lusty grotto
do you do 20s?
stray sonnet
no i'm j/w
lusty grotto
BDKs can do fine in 20s, but after that they can fall off due to how their kit works
we're in skyhold though so if you want a more concrete answer you would have to go to their 2 discords
lone turret
is it really leech > avoidance??
frosty mango
Avoidance doesnt do much for tanks
Does the same for tanks as everyone else no?
coarse bay
Ya
frosty mango
lusty grotto
a new one (from reddit)
toxic pewter
lmao
fringe mural
a new one (from reddit)
i thought tracking def cds of the group isnt working rn?
that is more important to me than the dead druid tbh 😄
lusty grotto
theyre allowed as long as they're predictions
exwindtools does it and/or mini cc
its legal for now
stoic hound
theyre allowed as long as they're predictions
to rephase, it is only working if def cd does not have cooldown reduction from other sources?
fringe mural
oh ok
harsh cypress
What number for shield block uptime should I be trying fo?
fringe mural
your number of blocked hits should be 95%+
which is an effective shield block uptime of nearly 100% and around 0-5% back hits
the better you get, the less backshots you take and the higher your effective shield block uptime goes to 100%
effective means it only has to be up when you actually get hit
not during running to another pack or while the enemy is doing a transition/long cast
stable kernel
Ive been running Heavy Rep but I dont have 1188 haste or whatever it is for itf and its pretty easy to keep up very close if not 100% shield block
but yea main skill thing is not getting buttshot
lusty grotto
What number for shield block uptime should I be trying fo?
no uptime, effective uptime (seen on logs)
but 90% at a bare minimum, ideally 95+ like grossmummrich said
harsh cypress
I must be getting backshot to pieces, my blocked hits are only about 65...which seems very low
lusty grotto
link log
lusty grotto
you have 85% effective block
and you got back hit around 115 times
while youre under what we consider the bare minimum, youre not that low
no idea where youre getting the 65 from
you should be hovering over Melee hits
out of the 164 unblocked hits you took, 115 were back hits, the rest were just hits taken while SB was not up (which could also be back hits but at that point it does not matter)
so to answer what you were wondering, yes back hits are pulling your effective block downwards
chrome linden
can anyone offer some tips on the 1st pull left side of npx
lusty grotto
Second Wind + BSV
arctic hearth
if you're pulling the 6 defenders, you're gonna have to kite
lusty grotto
dont kite
while its a strategy, it kills the lust pull
your dps wont be able to dps shit down
your healer needs to pump heals
use stops liberally
if you need to kite, make sure you kite around a circle
do not leap to africa
and use SR on cd as well
if you've got a MW, make sure they ring you
to catch up
arctic hearth
MW does make those pulls pretty free
lusty grotto
so does any healer that use the haste buff
the pylon one, ive seen some god tiered healers using it and the absorb is nothing to worry about
but this is not something someone on a 10-12 will do
nor should be expected of them
healers just need to know they need to pump tank heals, thats it
harsh cypress
so to answer what you were wondering, yes back hits are pulling your effective b...
Wow yeah I dunno I was looking earlier and it said 65% blocked/staggered. Well that's good news. Thanks for looking the log over
undone beacon
Look at this fuckass bird
vital vale
a new one (from reddit)
lmao
ivory barn
WW as prot
vital vale
I think one button rotation for prot uses whirlwind
ivory barn
vital vale
blame blizzard
compact palm
undone beacon
I think one button rotation for prot uses whirlwind
Ain’t no way
ivory barn
it does, sadly
forest dragon
can anyone offer some tips on the 1st pull left side of npx
I find the start of that pull defines the end, I stormbolt the first 2 defenders before I charge so I don’t get any null stacks, I shield charge the second set of defenders and charge past before I get any stacks of null sunder, then I silence the caster off to the right to drag them in
I haven’t timed it on anything higher than an 18, but it seems to work at that level fine
compact palm
You doing here
what are u doing here