What is this east coast heatwave
#protection
lofty warren
undone beacon
Even if it did work as intended its just not strong enough to justify the point sadly
lofty warren
Need climate change to go ahead and change back to 70 degrees
ivory barn
Dear God, how old is that 90's?
ivory barn
tribal wharf
so, ya,
ivory barn
cerulean tusk
93 degrees, is... asphalt melting, cars dashboards starting to warp and wood supports fail
93 is damned hot
cosmic fox
I did 12 Windrunner Spire and noticed stance mastery did fuck all the whole run so I guessed Spear could be at least little bit usefull
tribal wharf
undone beacon
Stance Mastery is incredibly strong
ivory barn
Is 3600 a good io to aim for rn?
undone beacon
It may not look like it on the surface, but the benefit to defensive stance is actually massive
tribal wharf
it is NOT a cheap case or an ancient case
undone beacon
Is 3600 a good io to aim for rn?
Sure 
cosmic fox
It's useless when you're not taking damage ;_;
undone beacon
3400 is when you get your last hard breakpoint reward
lusty grotto
It's useless when you're not taking damage ;_;
if youre not taking damage, why didnt you battle stance
ivory barn
3400 is when you get your last hard breakpoint reward
So after 3400 it's basically pointless?
lusty grotto
which again, gets a benefit from stance mastery
cosmic fox
Fair point
undone beacon
So after 3400 it's basically pointless?
Yep, unless you're going for 1% or .1%
ivory barn
I'm not that crazy skilled, but that sounds like fun
tribal wharf
if you have balls of steel
ivory barn
3048 rn
tribal wharf
plz do
undone beacon
I'm not that crazy skilled, but that sounds like fun
This is what the cutoffs are right now
Obv they keep going up the longer the season goes on
ivory barn
This is what the cutoffs are right now
cosmic fox
Ok if you outrange the max cadtable range of spear it doesn't leap... That got to be even more lackluster than Legion artifact ability ;_;
lusty grotto
Ok if you outrange the max cadtable range of spear it doesn't leap... That got t...
we've tested it out
dw
we didnt not recommend it without testing
ivory barn
This is what the cutoffs are right now
Pugging to top .01%. Sounds like a fucking yt adventure 
lusty grotto
the only useful use case was wall pulling in skyreach, but that got giga nerfed
hasnt been possible in more than 2 months
ivory barn
This is what the cutoffs are right now
Is that on Rio?
cosmic fox
If only the mass grip spear made it to live ;_;
autumn heron
This is what the cutoffs are right now
Must be nice being NA
lusty grotto
not that we need it, javelineer is a good replacement for it
that being said, grips are not going to not be exclusive to DKs any time soon
undone beacon
i heard from john blizzard they're going to remove DKs
cosmic fox
Meathook and Lust would be sufficient addition to Warrior lackluster utility
toxic pewter
which 1 of u prot warrs tanked seer near barrels just now
toxic pewter
lmao
ivory barn
It's a DPS cooldown
cosmic fox
Roleplaying brewmaster with barrels 
toxic pewter
since i been healing ngl
seen some goofy prot warriors
perhaps the goofiest tank spec
cosmic fox
People still think IP is prots active mitigation
cosmic fox
I had dummy prot on my lock pull first room in Nexus point without ever pressing Shield block
ivory barn
I had dummy prot on my lock pull first room in Nexus point without ever pressing...
Holy shit, ouch
severe star
when you click it, it migates damage actively
cosmic fox
He got deleted at an multiverse level
undone beacon
Last xpac when i was going for triple threat, i had a friend offer to pwarr for my hpal in a floodgate 10. Keeping him alive was a nightmare, checked after and he had like sub 30% SB uptime
ivory barn
He got deleted at an multiverse level
Thanos snapped
severe star
when I started prot warrior all way back last season someone told me that ip was the main dr for prots so I didnt even click sb unless I was dying which was all the time
cosmic fox
Most reddit posts ranking prot warriors are something like: "I feel like a wet paper without IP..." That's when I know for sure they don't even have SB on bars
toxic pewter
lol
undone beacon
Preaching to the choir lol
mighty valley
cosmic fox
Probably in Legion when IP was introduced
ivory barn
And then immediately nerfed
fringe mural
maybe people don't understand the concept of partial absorb
that it's weak if it breaks too fast and strong if it doesn't
and can only be good if something softens the dmg before, like, idk, SB
ivory barn
Just give a button that says absorbs x amount
fringe mural
the 50% is confusing people
oh that's strong, just as strong as shield wall
duh
they stop reading after 50%
dusky sentinel
Whats the "go to" trinket to farm if ur only doing m+? Do anyone use the Igniter for a defensive trinket or do we go for Hearth and prism?
lusty grotto
heart of wind and prism are solid, box is as well if you can manage the cast (you cant block during it), solar core and globule are good defensive options to pair with a passive trinket
cerulean tusk
Aln and Heart, probs, no?
lusty grotto
well they said m+ only
lusty grotto
sure, its a great pick up if they can get it
dusky sentinel
I guess I can bother dreamrift but the rest im out 😛
cerulean tusk
Bosses are easier than HC bosses from other tiers
lusty grotto
well not that its hard to do so with bonus rolls but still
cerulean tusk
so anyone can
dusky sentinel
Its not a matter of can tbf. I just find it so utterly boring
dusky sentinel
call me lazy
lusty grotto
Its not a matter of can tbf. I just find it so utterly boring
fair
kindred turret
Would I go for Gaze and Heart of Ancient Hunger? Got Heart with Avoidance already
cerulean tusk
Its not a matter of can tbf. I just find it so utterly boring
its like 45min total, for all 3 bosses, then less and less per week as you go on and got more of your goal items
lusty grotto
Would I go for Gaze and Heart of Ancient Hunger? Got Heart with Avoidance alread...
whatever sims best for you
kindred turret
Understood 😄
lusty grotto
yes, raidbots is your friend
dusky sentinel
Doh
Its like. Sometimes u ask questions and when u get the reply u just smack ur head
lusty grotto
if you want the tl;dr though, heart of ancient hunger is superior
but again, if you dont want to raid
prism is a solid choice
dusky sentinel
Ill do a sim when I get on but I guess having myth prism vs heroic hunger aint that far apart
cerulean tusk
Sim mythic hunger, as it is really easy to get
dusky sentinel
Im just a casual with alts. One thing is doing mythic. The other is getting invited with my massive 267 gear
lusty grotto
Ill do a sim when I get on but I guess having myth prism vs heroic hunger aint t...
its about the same
dusky sentinel
Thanks buddy
lusty grotto
myth voidforged ancient hunger is obviously superior
but myth voidforged prism vs hero voidforged hunger is about the same
dusky sentinel
Noted
lusty grotto
just remember prism's value increases with your target's missing hp
but it averages out around the same, i wouldnt necessarily min max it
shadow sequoia
how to take less damage on left side in nexus
shadow sequoia
how to mange these absorbs, with cc and whatnot ?
lusty grotto
And whichever you pull, do not run them around activating everything
Same way you handle talons in skyreach
Stun and back off, piercing howl and back off, reflect works to reset stacks, use health pots and impending victory to help the healer
shadow sequoia
thank u mate
lone wren
First roll in windspire hot trinket first skyreach got shield. This warrior is an lucky in the shaman I neded to roll 8 times for shield
lusty grotto
gz
lusty grotto
we dont support dungeon slice
desert fern
what do u set it up for >
lusty grotto
5t 1.5 min Patchwerk for AOE
desert fern
i see
lusty grotto
1t 3min or 5 min Patchwerk for ST
desert fern
okey gotcha
ember basin
And whichever you pull, do not run them around activating everything
Can you explain what “activating everything” means? Am I supposed to tank mobs away from environmental items? If so, I’m just now learning that.
undone beacon
Winning
lofty warren
did the worlds best 230 ilvl pwar teach nimchomp the correct ways?
lusty grotto
chrome linden
m+ whirling blade or ravager?
lusty grotto
always whirling blade
chrome linden
ty
anyone got tips for not falling over using puzzle box? i've been either stunning or getting full stack of ignore pain
undone beacon
Use it before a pull/between packs
kind urchin
I just don't use puzzle box in dungeons.
tribal wharf
i wouldnt reccomend games either
warm plinth
Winning
I got that in BfA after doing visions the entire expansion without ever trying for it. I opened 3 mailboxes and got it.
I love visions. Gif more visions pls Blizz
tribal wharf
one of my friends at the time said he got it
so i ran it within 5 minutes and got it
frosty mango
I ran a 15 in battle stance bc I am dumb
warm plinth
warm plinth
Totally worth the 3% extra damage amirite
kind urchin
But it's not 3% damage.
lusty grotto
I love visions. Gif more visions pls Blizz
well you see... there's something similar to visions, but it dogshit
warm plinth
I feel like I shouldn't need to explain that that was a joke that I didn't feel required me to sim to find out exactly how much DPS I gain by using Battle Stance
warm plinth
well you see... there's something similar to visions, but it dogshit
Oh? Is that the ritual things I've seen mentioned?
sharp gale
I didn’t really understand what they tried to do with those
lusty grotto
they tried to do visions
but easier
"oh add these affixes" okay will this be harder
oh there's no time limit
sharp gale
I missed the outside progression
lusty grotto
oh its not harder
warm plinth
Imagine if they had done what was suggested by many long ago and they had done more cities in visions 🙁
I would've loved to see them do more cities
Or even just areas of the game
sharp gale
They can redo visions but diff lore set up
Like exactly the same design, just a new city/layout
sharp gale
Delves are torghast
warm plinth
I actually really liked Torghast, idc what people say
sharp gale
I liked it too
sharp gale
The long corridor that came out later was fun
lusty grotto
as long as it wasnt mandatory
sharp gale
The launch version was kinda bad bc it was too short, stopping right when your anima powers started to do funny things
The mandatory leggo runs
warm plinth
Mine took forever to do early on because I was an outlaw rogue and I basically had to get like 3 specific powers to even survive the entire time
ivory barn
1 dungeon
lusty grotto
the silvermoon looking for group carriage is one of the best things this expansion
sharp rover
What does the carriage actually do?
drifting basin
What talents would we be okay giving up to pick up FttF for the few niche spots it fits in?
ivory barn
this dmg feels low
drifting basin
Dropped shout this last run through NPX and it feels pretty good. But if I'm taking on AA I'd like to have the big kick
drifting basin
this dmg feels low
Your dmg looks pretty good to me
Grain of salt, I'm not the best judge of what is or isn't good.
warm plinth
What talents would we be okay giving up to pick up FttF for the few niche spots ...
You just move Armored to the Teeth to Fight Through the Flames.
drifting basin
Losing armor feels scary though>.>
vale escarp
this dmg feels low
It's only a +12, Go colossus and pull bigger.
warm plinth
Losing armor feels scary though>.>
I meant Armor Spec but looks like you understood haha. Neither talent is particularly impactful, so it doesn't matter.
If you didn't have to take one to get Strategist, we probably wouldn't use either one.
drifting basin
Aight, it does some concerning to spec out of armor spec for things like AA. Like, after the first pull I don't see it being an issue but that first pull is already beating my ass, much less without the armor.
warm plinth
In most keys you should still be using Armor Spec
drifting basin
Yeah, the only three I've heard of switching for are AA, NPX, and ...fuckin.. there's a third but my brain refuses.
warm plinth
NPX is the one I hear regularly, and even Sense uses FttF there
warm plinth
I'm not subbed so I don't have that kind of nuanced knowledge of this season. But I don't think it will hurt you to run FttF in those three dungeons.
drifting basin
Gotcha
vital vale
I dont think you need fttf for AA, only for MT and NPX
battleaxes in AA will need to be nearly perma kited regardless if you have fttf or not so might aswell not take it
in 18/19 you dont want to ever be in melee range with battleaxes without shield wall or reflect up
fuck blizzard for removing spell block
you dont need fttf for seat also. most of the dangerous stuff there is reflected
and you can take fearless for the subjs
for MT its very important because some of the enforcers there are fought in tight spaces you cannot kite
ivory barn
3400 is 16's?
vital vale
yes
ionic fern
3400 is 16's?
Yes.
lone wren
Myth shield or
Myth heart of win what I upgrade first?
unkempt pebble
Shield
coarse bay
^
ionic fern
Politically correct answer is shield.
tropic quest
Hey - quick question for NPX runs - Im struggling a lot with routes that get first pull in the left, with 6x Defenders.. I think this is amplified by the fact my healer is mainly a disc priest, which I think naturally struggles more to keep the absorb debuff down?
lone wren
Oo upgrade sin alt are 10 crest instead of 20… nice
frosty mango
Hey - quick question for NPX runs - Im struggling a lot with routes that get fir...
What key level?
If not bleeding edge just split the pull, it won’t matter
lone wren
240 ilvl (180 ilvl pants head and few other pieces) bit 285 shield can I try tanking slowly 6+?
jagged pier
u can tank as high as your comfortable
vital vale
Hey - quick question for NPX runs - Im struggling a lot with routes that get fir...
kite, the answer this season as a prot warrior is to kite. Sadly that is your main way to give your healer time to get the debuff off you.
if you (justifiably) hate having to kite, then prot warrior isn't the tank for you in midnight season 1. we dont have the tools to deal with many of the hard hitting mob types other than kiting
lone wren
u can tank as high as your comfortable
Mm m0 it is
jagged pier
0
sharp rover
Hmmmmm, okay
ionic fern
Somehow 1 feels worse tho.
jagged pier
^^
the worst is when your the first person and it gives u a 0
it can ither give u 0 or 100
unkempt hazel
thats what imma tell ppl when im 0
sharp rover
Mmmmmmm this was a karma key I just ran
PoS 14 with an 85k DPS ret key holder
Poor guy, honestly
unkempt hazel
still enough for 14
unkempt hazel
thats what I did on dru
just competing with tank damage to get to 10's to bonus roll
sharp rover
unkempt hazel
<:deadge:900279927138578432>
lmao
sharp rover
Also I want to reiterate that any tank that does less than 80th percentile is a genuine mouth breather
Because I'm off spec but am permanently 95+
unkempt hazel
🔥
ok wtf
at 286?
I was doing 80k overall at 260 I think? and I mean I was absolutely doing it wrong too
with god awful trinkets and no 4p
hm no logs sadly so cant confirm
do have earlier logs tho lmao
cerulean tusk
Its funny to see tanks struggling to do DPS in m+, as you as the tank decide the pulls.
Pull big, chain and always be pushing to do better patterns
cerulean tusk
Big chicken
cerulean tusk
Who?
lone wren
Can slow tank 9/8s so far nexus was a bit hard but the rest fine
lone wren
Its funny to see tanks struggling to do DPS in m+, as you as the tank decide the...
But if I pull big I die
jagged pier
that most likely a player issue, so send some logs and we can give some pointers
cerulean tusk
Understand why and what killed you, then adapt. Could you do something different? Is there a mob in there you want to avoid?
Solving that puzzle is half the fun of tanking
lone wren
One was arcane zap after healer died but still had some cds
Another was Windrunner plants killing me from the back
Windrunner last boss tank buster when it in out of cds
damage done
other dps did 50k each me 25k
cerulean tusk
None of those sounds like a pulling to big issue 
Just keep at gradual improvement, find your limits and then slowly try to stretch them out
It is a slow process, but the reward is immense. Once you know what you can do, you can start the focus on adapting to your team
lone wren
None of those sounds like a pulling to big issue <:feelycraft:146764463959834637...
Nah the opposite I pull too small one pack at a time I am scared of big pulls
Also I appreciate more some pulls I had with tanks like the images in nexus I took 2 and it shredded me so much. In my last 17 as we were right in time the tank took 3 of them plus all the elemntals
cerulean tusk
Just remember that the smaller you pull, the more vournable you are
Less mobs, is less recourses, for you and your team
lone wren
Just remember that the smaller you pull, the more vournable you are
Less mobs,...
Why is m more vulnerable in small pulls?
cerulean tusk
Less rage gen, less funnel effects, less to activate stuff
Making the pull longer, more time for things to go wrong
What you can consider is how many casters that is a pack, note if people interupt or not. Then pull only that many casters your group can handle, once they die, pull into next sets as they make sense
Worst case scenario that means only 1-2 casters, if only you interupt
cerulean tusk
Why is m more vulnerable in small pulls?
Lets take the double dread pull, you pull them both and they line up their busters. 1 set of CDs covers them both. If you pull them in two, the 2nd pull you wont have the same CDs ready, making the 1 scarier than the two
lone wren
Interesting I ll try that
lone wren
yeah that replaces my 180 helm
solemn kelp
What's the best way to track your group's CDs now OmniCD isnt a thing?
jagged pier
u cant
jagged pier
they keep making them, and then the capability is removed from bliz
because bliz dont want u to do that
echo egret
Well that's why I never bothered to try them
fleet quarry
Hello. Since WoWAnalyzer lacks someone for protection warrior log analysis, does someone know where i can get some of that elsewhere ?
jagged pier
from ppl in here
charred ivy
if i make 1h weap and shield 295 or so with the thingys. will it be free upgrade other weapons (for fury if dual spec)
jagged pier
too 289 yes
fleet quarry
Sorry for the re-ask. I should have search for myself. 🙏
orchid mural
I thought there were still some addons that do it ? (not tried them myself)
MiniCC is reliably tracking defensive CD's in dungeons, and for approx 1/2 the classes their large DPS CD.'
crisp ocean
2 more months of the season?
harsh trellis
Sorry for the re-ask. I should have search for myself. 🙏
Mog, did you post your logs for review?
fleet quarry
I didn't. My last run was full clean of voidspire in NM last tuesday. Tonight we are gonna try HM. Perhaps i'll post them tomorrow. Or i could do both. 🤔
unkempt hazel
sry it was me
maiden quiver
Anyone been using Colossus in M+? Some logs on archon show it being significantly ahead of thane in dps
crisp ocean
whats the addon that shows gear ilvl without having to hover over it?
jagged pier
Anyone been using Colossus in M+? Some logs on archon show it being significantl...
they should about the same
ah yer the thane logs are still taking into account all the runs with 1/4
of course they are low
fringe mural
ah yer the thane logs are still taking into account all the runs with 1/4
best spec
jagged pier
this is way data aggregation sties dont work unless u actually look into them
fringe mural
this is way data aggregation sties dont work unless u actually look into them
also you need to set time filters
always basically
jagged pier
theres no time filter in archon
from what i can see
but it is the first time ive opened it
fringe mural
oh no
fringe mural
i also dont think a time filter would work, im still sure ppl are running 1/4
maybe they kite all the time
And don't use phalanx
but why spec 1/4 in the first place then and not 0/4
if you don't use it
for the ss buff?
jagged pier
cause the wave
/
5% DR used to be on that one
so ppl got used to it in beta
and never changed or looked at talents again
fringe mural
ok
jagged pier
even sense in beta said the last 3 were pointless for high keys, until they changed it to the last point
then he was like yer u take apex
fringe mural
you know what the sad thing about this is
It's like in many sports
People on top aren't really smart, they're just good at that one specific thing
Top footballers do what the trainer tells them to and they excel at it
they can't do taxes even if they had to
jagged pier
almost like we say that all the time, or stuff along those line/ high m+ is about team play not talents etc etc
fringe mural
almost like we say that all the time, or stuff along those line/ high m+ is abou...
or being a good dps is about feeling the flow of battle and getting the rotation engraved in your brain, not theorycrafting the rotation
i knew so many dudes who were good dps players who didn't have the slightest clue about why they talented x or not
jagged pier
parsing good as dps actually doesnt mean much ither
like not all but majority of high parsing dps ive ever com across
ignore mechanics
dont inturpt etc etc
ivory barn
Is 80-90k as thane in overall in 10-12's bad?
wooden spruce
was just trying to do a last 10 for the chest before reset and a darn pally was chain pulling everything because, i dunno
well we didnt even reach the first boss
jagged pier
Is 80-90k as thane in overall in 10-12's bad?
depend how big u pull
ivory barn
depend how big u pull
This was a pit last night. Fairly large pulls
jagged pier
need to look at log
ivory barn
DPS were all at 250k before first boss
fringe mural
Higher dps in the same pull size usually means someone is doing his rotation better which also means higher survivability which should be our goal as tanks
Not to have the bigges epeen
ivory barn
I need to start logging runs
fringe mural
download dbm
it will log keys automatically
if you check the box
so you can never forget again
ivory barn
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/X8By1CvYGQth26HJ?fight=13&type=damage-done aye a person from my guild logged it
crisp ocean
@unkempt hazel guardian druids are the least fun tank
ivory barn
I keep being told I'm missing a lot of casts, but can't understand as to why
crisp ocean
stop stalkin me
i've seen you here before
and I cant hate on guardian druids in their own server
unkempt hazel
real
idm bear honestly, altho that 2 button build is weird even for me
and I usually like simplicity 
ivory barn
Does SBA use SS/Tclap/revenge/execute?
jagged pier
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/X8By1CvYGQth26HJ?fight=13&type=damage-done ...
your missing about 4 CPM a mintue which isnt much
rage management is fine
your SS casts are for sure low
so your missing phalanx waves etc
ivory barn
Is clap weaving only in multi target?
jagged pier
like your SS casts and TC casts over a key should be near enough the same
u dont clap weave
u never clap weave
If u have SS u press it
u dont play tier
unkempt hazel
whats a clap weave
jagged pier
clap ss clap ss i guess
but u dont do that
u only ever press TC before SS if its TB
unkempt hazel
I mean u do that if no ss reset tho right
jagged pier
u also dont like facing mobs which could also be the issue
unkempt hazel
if anything its the mobs being cowards for hitting him in the back
ivory barn
Getting back clapped yikes ok I need to fix that. Thank you for looking
I do notice pressing SS sometimes it doesn't like to go off
jagged pier
this is me on the left in 3 minutes less of the same key and u on the right
i have more casts of everything in less time
make sure your not doing that
plush tendon
this is why the ladies love Jakey
ivory barn
Spamming buttons?
plush tendon
jagged pier
unkempt hazel
I love doing that
ivory barn
Also i see you not pressing execute?
jagged pier
i do just alot less that u
ivory barn
Ahh
jagged pier
because u only press it in ST and only when SS or TC are on cd
theres like 1 boss in Pit where that applies
ivory barn
Ohh it's not like fury where you spend it when not in CDs
ivory barn
That right there could be half my problem
I've been pressing that bitch at close to 40 rage if possible
But not targeting the correct mob or having them facing me it's a big one
jagged pier
fringe mural
the pit mobs do like to run around like crazy though
and hit you in the back
compared to other dungeons imo
especially fucking ghouls
they're everywhere
ivory barn
Yeah, but this is happening in all the dungeons I do
I'll target something, go to press SS and it won't go off
fringe mural
i had around 95% blocks in seat, but 85% in pit
the more mobs you fight the more they spread
and at one point they spread around that 180 degree angle
fringe mural
yeah maybe i don't move as much as i should in pit
probably comes with experience, i went into seat a lot more
ivory barn
I move probably way to much but less execute and stand closer/facing to mobs sounds like an easy work towards
jagged pier
i mean for a key where mobs do jump around etc and u do pull with them behind u etc thats not too bad
but i am washed
fringe mural
lol
unkempt hazel
time to retire
jagged pier
i dont denie it
ivory barn
u also dont like facing mobs which could also be the issue
Does this mean 15% of me getting hit is not in front?
unkempt hazel
is there like uhh
fringe mural
okay 15% back shots is a lot
unkempt hazel
top down pie view of what counts as a back hit
ivory barn
Oh God,
fringe mural
top down pie view of what counts as a back hit
everything behind 180
you have 180 in front of you
and the rest is back shot
it's not really complicated
half half
ivory barn
Yeah I need to work on that. Damn healers tell me "oh you don't take a lot of damage, but you don't do a lot"
unkempt hazel
so ig when u just stand it can just happen mobs start surrounding u a bit too much
unkempt hazel
so mean
fringe mural
and it looks shit if their models clip
ivory barn
What is the easiest way to fix that. Just run a key and focus it?
fringe mural
so they spread around you
fringe mural
What is the easiest way to fix that. Just run a key and focus it?
backpedal
backpedal and turn while doing it, slowly, so they will stay in front
glacial ridge
^
ivory barn
Time to rebind S
fringe mural
but the pack stays where it is for your dps to use ground effects
ivory barn
I've been running sideways to go backwards
glacial ridge
also remember if you leap across mobs, you can still be hit in the back
game counts it as if youre running along the floor, even though youre above
tribal wharf
important to keep in mind about leap, if you try to leap over a fire circle it will count you as being in it and you take dmg
you are still technically on the ground somehow
ivory barn
That sounds like the only way they could fix the leap/charge/death grip bug
If you leaped away and got gripped at the same time the game would literally just dc you
unkempt hazel
also remember if you leap across mobs, you can still be hit in the back
if only this one warrior on m chimmy knew this
instead of leaping over the other group with the circle
unkempt hazel
yk what would be funny
if it applied this way when ur leaping over from one edge to the other, and the moment ur above the void u instadie cuz it puts u at the bottom of it technically
crisp ocean
whats the addon to see the ilvl of each seperate gear without having to hover over
glacial ridge
whats the addon to see the ilvl of each seperate gear without having to hover ov...
alot of different ones
ivory barn
whats the addon to see the ilvl of each seperate gear without having to hover ov...
I use simple ilvl
crisp ocean
ty
glacial ridge
theres also Chonky character sheet (sticks out like a sore thumb but has all the info)
unkempt hazel
imagine not having it burned into your brain each individual piece u ever got
ivory barn
if you have Enhance QOL it has that as an option
Does EQoL do bags too?
glacial ridge
Does EQoL do bags too?
for ilvl? not sure
dusky canopy
Holy!
coarse bay
like the number on top of the piece of gear
Chonky character sheet is good too
ivory barn
here
I believe this one is what I use
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/simple-item-level
glacial ridge
4 hr maintenance, no hotfix notes just some raid tuning. What we think will be broken?
crisp ocean
4 hr maintenance, no hotfix notes just some raid tuning. What we think will be b...
arms warrior nerf
crisp ocean
I believe this one is what I use
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/simple-it...
got the wrong one tysm
ivory barn
crisp ocean
I did 10 m+ dungeons to replace those boots and got nothing
glacial ridge
i feel like i know Seat like the back of my hand, still waiting for Gauntlets...
crisp ocean
i feel like i know Seat like the back of my hand, still waiting for Gauntlets...
are u eu
glacial ridge
i know ill finally get them then they will show up in every one of my vaults till end of season
ivory barn
Back/belt/boots/trinkets is there a dungeon that has those that's all I have left for myth gear
ivory barn
Maybe I just craft those
undone beacon
Back/belt/boots/trinkets is there a dungeon that has those that's all I have lef...
Craft a cloak, then roll in WRS for boots/belt/heart. Easy
undone beacon
MT also has cloak/belt/feet but also has a bigger item pool
including jelly replicator which is butts
ivory barn
Prolly grab bonus roll and gamble
undone beacon
I do think its funny raidbots droptimizer still lets you sim two delve trinkets that didnt make it into the game
ivory barn
Blizzard cut content? No
valid edge
ur opinions? Normally u wouldnt play the Umbral War-Adeps, but because of SR ive build a route with them.
unkempt pebble
ur opinions? Normally u wouldnt play the Umbral War-Adeps, but because of SR ive...
pull 5 is kinda too dangerous
for dps players
pull champions instead i'd say
valid edge
because of tripple bleed stalkers?
unkempt pebble
yup
valid edge
didnt know there such a threat - good to know
unkempt pebble
valid edge
dwarf able?
unkempt pebble
no clue
valid edge
the tank hit reflect in keys above +16 is hughe - feels like free %. because the mob is useless if u reflect the tank hit
fleet quarry
I did 10 m+ dungeons to replace those boots and got nothing
Just do the campaign for like half an hour and you will get 214 boots ^^
hazy crest
.3% wipe on L'ura
maiden forge
.3% wipe on L'ura <:sadge:820202363359854633>
undone beacon
If only i was there, i could do .3% of lura's health by myself 
undone beacon
Just do the campaign for like half an hour and you will get 214 boots ^^
At that rate, its better to just craft blue boots from blacksmithing at 220 ilvl, or check WQs/rares for adventurer boots
fleet quarry
At that rate, its better to just craft blue boots from blacksmithing at 220 ilvl...
Yeah, that too ^^
hazy crest
I keep thinking that if I had done more damage as the tank we could have gotten there. Our damage is low overall so everything helps
unkempt pebble
the tank hit reflect in keys above +16 is hughe - feels like free %. because the...
yea but im not sure if voidbash reflect damage matters that much
its mostly to negate knockback
valid edge
its like 10% in +16 - feels okay
dull fossil
do you see an actual castbar for that?
undone beacon
I keep thinking that if I had done more damage as the tank we could have gotten ...
I mean, another reset is another 1% buff, y'all got it easy this week. Aint no thang
hazy crest
true true
ivory barn
Stupid question would Single button assistant show me not standing close enough to SS?
undone beacon
Stupid question would Single button assistant show me not standing close enough ...
It'll prob just red/grey out the icon like normal for being out of range
Why you using sba tho
ivory barn
Why you using sba tho <:monkahmm:1382590600439664751>
I'm not, I wanted to test something
hazy crest
I'm going to turn that shit on for alts and let my 9 yr old start leveling them for me
ivory barn
Because half of the issue is me not close enough to hit SS
ivory barn
Which saying "not close enough" on a tank is fucking odd... But that's happening
undone beacon
t11 delves on any tank is free at basically any ilvl
crisp ocean
Just do the campaign for like half an hour and you will get 214 boots ^^
this is my alt
i did the campaign
undone beacon
Because half of the issue is me not close enough to hit SS
I don't know how you're consistently getting out of melee range of mobs though lol
crisp ocean
tmr gonna hit 285 so i’m gonna spam +10s les go
ivory barn
I don't know how you're consistently getting out of melee range of mobs though l...
Welcome to my wonder....
As ranged I didn't have this problem
Gonna make a.... Fuck we can't anymore 😭
I think it's mostly targeting a mob that is not in range in a pack of like 10-15 mobs
lone wren
Found out the mistery why I struggle in 8-9 changing my 180 head/ legs for 266 ones solved the issue.
severe star
I had a devourer demon hunter with 3 150 pieces in a 10 it was a guild run and then I joined it they were doing 16k damage overall so after the first boss I left and I was doing top damage
They were peeved
said it was my fault which I guess fair I did leave
undone beacon
meh in a 10 its fine imo
10s are free and most people in guild groups are dragging rats for quick gearing
Like 16k is abysmal but also its a 10 lol
severe star
it was a terrace and it took 15 mins to kill the first boss
undone beacon
Aint no way
severe star
There is a way
ivory barn
it was a terrace and it took 15 mins to kill the first boss
How....
ivory barn
glass mousepad kinda nice
Sounds painful if slam
round pendant
why would I slam my mousepad
ivory barn
Idk, I do when I get mad
drifting rampart
@undone beacon Thinking about playing prot, looking to get rank 1, 223 ilevel, thoughts?
fluid widget
I think you need at least 224 for that
drifting rampart
You misunderstand, I'm trying to become the best 223 ilevel warrior
I want rank 1 parses for specifically that item level so I can say Im better than everyone else and know more
undone beacon
I think you should take 3 ilvls off and become the #1 220 pwarr
On heroic vorasius
drifting rampart
I can do that too
undone beacon
Then you can teach us noobers about dodging and parrying
round pendant
Idk, I do when I get mad
it's happened to the best of us
but prob a good idea to work on that
I used to absolutely babyrage at street fighter and tekken
now I just tell myself
skill issue
ivory barn
strong forum
I want rank 1 parses for specifically that item level so I can say Im better tha...
Only parses that qualify you for that is view count parse or Rio parse
undone beacon
Nome you missed our rank 1 warrior yesterday
ivory barn
it's happened to the best of us
Yeah, literally the only way I got the HoF nilluaes delve boss was a very calm "you got this, just trust it" every about 30s
strong forum
Otherwise you won't have the publicly allowed amount of "credit"
strong forum
Nome you missed our rank 1 warrior yesterday
Fill me in
undone beacon
fringe mural
but prob a good idea to work on that
undone beacon
He got a 100 parse for ilvl at like 232
And was saying that Nim doesnt know what he's talking about
A true champion
strong forum
Absolute legend
ivory barn
Maybe this is why I play warrior
ivory barn
I've full blown busted a $250 headset, that's when I had to walk away for a few years
ionic fern
Nom coming back to WoW confirmed
round pendant
He got a 100 parse for ilvl at like 232 <:peepo:938582175522107442>
is 232 low or high
sweet egret
yes
ivory barn
Idk why screaming music calms the nerves
round pendant
I love screaming music
undone beacon
is 232 low or high
232 is like, I just got my char to 90 and did a couple of WQs
round pendant
lmao
undone beacon
Im at the point in the season where im basically raidlogging or achieve grinding 
Been 100%'ing some games in my steam library and vibing
Finally beat Gris, what a fantastic little game
ivory barn
Im at the point in the season where im basically raidlogging or achieve grinding...
I'm attempting to get better so I can push 3400+
undone beacon
I'm sitting at 3600 on the priest, will prob do a later season push to get into 1% and call it there
ivory barn
Jakey helped me figure 2 big issues
fringe mural
Idk why screaming music calms the nerves
It calmes the nerves of people that are different
or to say it with modern words: neurodivergent
so your brain can't hear itself humming or something like that lol
ivory barn
backshots and execute?
Back clipped and not pressing buttons due to not standing close enough/hitting execute to much
undone beacon
Theres an addon called ActionBarsEnchanced that will grey out icons when you're out of range/can't use them
fringe mural
can you recycle crafted items to idk get half the sparks back?
undone beacon
can you recycle crafted items to idk get half the sparks back?
no
fringe mural
fuck
i need to craft a 2h as my fury oh but i only have 2 sparks
And will get the 3rd tomorrow
ivory barn
backshots and execute?
ivory barn
Theres an addon called ActionBarsEnchanced that will grey out icons when you're ...
I have my action bars hidden
undone beacon
Should do the same for CDM icons
undone beacon
I have kind of a fucked up ui style but i use my action bars in tandem with the cdm
Those are my bars, and the CDM sits underneath to provide sounds/additional effects
ivory barn
I thankfully didn't need to rebuild to much after deleting Elvui again
ivory barn
That whole centerpiece is arcui for me
undone beacon
Yeah I'm not using ArcUI rn mostly because setting it up is beyond what I feel like doing right now, but this works. I'm only using it on my priest currently, might swap some other chars to it
ivory barn
It's such a pain to setup, but it's nice after
glacial ridge
I know my buttons for warrior, but I keep the same layout for all the tanks, so its consistent
and you can use something like this addon
and youll know whats in range or whats not etc
you can see my charge above is red as im too close
ivory barn
Ummm I think EQoL or an addon I have just uses a red X on the screen if I'm not in range.
Might just go enable that
glacial ridge
yeh thats another options
i try not to do too much in ArcUI just in case it gets broken for abit because of blizz things
god, i miss WAs
ivory barn
i try not to do too much in ArcUI just in case it gets broken for abit because o...
That's the only reason I've contemplated not using it much longer
undone beacon
Yeah my philosophy has been to try and keep things as vanilla as possible to avoid issues
I wish default nameplates werent ass
ivory barn
I wonder how much more fps I'd gain using action bars and not the CDM from arcui
stone tundra
Mostly vanilla, 2 arcui bars per spec and 5 auras and only duration
glacial ridge
arc doesnt use much for me, but ive seen your layout in the UI channel lol you have alot more in there
glacial ridge
yeh at most i have some buff icons, resource bars, and buffs made into bars (at most like 4 on BDK)
i dont notice a performance hit
ivory barn
Deleting that ENTIRE center piece would probably take some work, but it might be worth
Blizzard did try and do that anyway, maybe after raid tonight I attempt that
glacial ridge
enhance qol has a cdm built into it, but I havent looked into what it can do
ivory barn
enhance qol has a cdm built into it, but I havent looked into what it can do
I have that add-on too haha
glacial ridge
ivory barn
Maybe these are all fighting with each other for me and I didn't realize it
glacial ridge
That creator has used EQOL for alot
idk i have mine working now, try not to mess around with it
ArcUI does the job i need it to do
ivory barn
I think it's time to pull the ripcord on more add-ons, already deleted Bigwigs for better ability timeline
What is this weeks weekly?
glacial ridge
Not sure, servers arent up yet
and they have already said they are doing another live maintenance tomorrow...
idk what they are trying to fix lol
stone tundra
Maintenance is not only for actively fixing stuff
sweet egret
it is also when the engineer needs to go home to tell his family he is alive, no?
stone tundra
Correct
glacial ridge
glacial ridge
Maintenance is not only for actively fixing stuff
lol i know but im saying usual maintenance is usually 1-2 hrs
this is 4hrs plus another live maintenance next day
just seems abit much for the usual...
ivory barn
we have to fix the bugs that will knowingly crop up in the maintenance patch without telling the player base <- some dev somewhere
Pulsar? Is that the stupid tank add?
undone beacon
iirc Pulsar is the orbiting ball someone has to soak
ivory barn
Ahh, right so ez week
echo egret
pulling 1 ravager + 2 spellbound battle axe in a 17 = instant death, what am I doing wrong ?
lofty warren
https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/raid-tuning-incoming-may-19-2307508 I see tuning here but dont see pwar buffs wtf
plush tendon
I wouldnt expect anymore tuning until the .7 or even the next season
ivory barn
Does that mean servers up?
lofty warren
So they gonna let bears go wild? I guess they did bonk them down about 10%
plush tendon
Pretty much
shrewd cosmos
We are not great but it is better now since we don't have enough haste anyway and hopefully S2 or S3 we will cooking
vocal junco
Is the triple pull on Veximus a no no for prot warrior? I seem to get melted even with Shield Wall up
I think I just need to get gud, but curious about other’s experiences
tropic quest
What key level?
Im starting to have trouble on 15/16
on 14s it stills kinda manageable - but I guess kiting or rethinkging the route is the answer :/
tks for the inputs tho!
frosty mango
Im starting to have trouble on 15/16
on 14s it stills kinda manageable - but I g...
I would just split if it’s a problem at those levels
It won’t meaningfully change the end result of the key
lofty warren
Is the triple pull on Veximus a no no for prot warrior? I seem to get melted eve...
Spell reflecting the mobs before the boss will reduce your damage and I did it on a +14 but that was just a quick weekly key
shrewd cosmos
Is the triple pull on Veximus a no no for prot warrior? I seem to get melted eve...
You can't do that. Battle Axes do magic dmg. You can pull 2 packs next to the stairs and leave the last one with 3 Battle Axes alone
I did 18 + like this just make sure you use Spell Reflect on CD
vocal junco
Yeah the battle axes chonk. This was on a 16 and a 17, both times with lust. Good to know. I’ll stick with the typical pulls
shrewd cosmos
It is 30 sec slower but much safer
Also you need Fight trough Flames this dungeon I drop Tough as Nails helps a lot
crisp ocean
the crest cap is gone?
lusty grotto
thats what blizzard posted, so yes
crisp ocean
yoo
plush tendon
literally the most meaningless thing ever
ivory barn
plush tendon
I guess it helps if you want to craft off-spec pieces
ivory barn
'remove crest cap!'
but the sparks
lusty grotto
consider rat happy that the worst part of turbo boost is not happening
plush tendon
agreed
lusty grotto
unless...
plush tendon
farming up a bunch of crests to bump up I level 2 times per piece
heck, even this new thing was a pain
all the raiders had to get 15-20 of those things within a day or two
lusty grotto
yeah but it wasn't as bad as the ilvl extension
fringe mural
thats what blizzard posted, so yes
For all crest types?
torn gulch
all the raiders had to get 15-20 of those things within a day or two
according to who?
torn gulch
then your raid leader is a bellend
plush tendon
it was like 'ok, after Tuesday raid yall need to get into the mines'
plush tendon
then your raid leader is a bellend
I mean, it should be expected. For a Mythic raiding guild progging Lura
its part of the social contract to get every bit of power before raid
torn gulch
were you competing for HoF?
torn gulch
id the raid group was alright with it then it''s fine
otherwise you raid leader is a bellend
undone beacon
I mean to be fair, for a CE guild closing in on Lura I'd expect everyone to do everything in their power to increase their power going into raid
Esp when it isnt hard, just annoying
plush tendon
we obviously had guys who couldnt do all of that between Tues-Thurs raid (ya know, we all have jobs)
torn gulch
wait do you get one per raid boss?
plush tendon
100% drop chance on heroic and mythic
+10 keys
and tier 11 delves
and nightmare preys (first two a week)
fringe mural
1 from the quest, 4 from delves on wednesday, 4 from delves on thursday, two from nm preys
torn gulch
yes i get them from tier 11 delves as I had keys backed up
fringe mural
so you have 11 for zero group play
plush tendon
Tedious, but not undoable
fringe mural
and everyone can run 8 delves a week even without backup keys
you get 6 you buy 2
and if you don't dw you only need 4 more
plush tendon
yea, jump into a heroic raid pug
fringe mural
it's perfectly doable even for working dads
lusty grotto
i disagree
youre not adding the effort to prog
myth raid prog is enough load that piling farming ad-nauseaum can lead to fatigue extremely fast
this isnt about boomer-dads
its about raiders
they could be whatever generation
fringe mural
of course, but nim, it is two hours
lusty grotto
2 hours is an insane amount of time
if you think 2 hours is a reasonable timeframe, youre not in the same position as these people
different perspectives
mossy ridge
People have different lives. A house to maintain, a yard, maybe a kid. It can be hard to find time.
lusty grotto
yup
frosty mango
As someone who was a CE raider and a top us raider for a very long time
The extra ilvl is meaningless
Unless you are pushing world first the time you spend farming delves would be better spent practicing
tribal wharf
plush tendon
curious to see how the changes this reset will help though
frosty mango
Like yea you can spend hours to get a smidge extra ilvl but at the end of the day it changes nothing because you aren’t wiping because of ilvl at this point in the tier
tribal wharf
kinda want the jelly
lament osprey
For tanks just a yawn fest
lament osprey
O
ivory barn
and bonus roll it is
plush tendon
im hopful the changes today make it less cancerous
since we are only playing two DKs, it can be a bit sketch
especially the 3rd set
undone beacon
Less crystal spread and less glaives seems good
undone beacon
Unless you are pushing world first the time you spend farming delves would be be...
I wish i could practice mythic crown positoning on my own but alas
ivory barn
cap is indeed gone
plush tendon
I read the mechanic before prog and I was like 'ok, this doesnt seem terrible'
it is
frosty mango
I wish i could practice mythic crown positoning on my own but alas
Yes that’s my point
lament osprey
The over lap is less, ish
plush tendon
you could get some diabolical glaive movements
frosty mango
Is the extra ilvl grind going to meaningfully change your experience when people are dying due to <stands in bad, doesn’t do mechanic, doesn’t press defensive>
I almost crashed out last tier hearing my rl bitch about turbo boost while we wiped to gravity or people not being able to fly on a mount for dimmy
plush tendon
Is the extra ilvl grind going to meaningfully change your experience when people...
no, but sometimes its not about that. You can certainly make that argument, but if a majority of the raid does get the power gains and a small subsection decides not to based on that logic
lusty grotto
im kind of with Roid on this one
plush tendon
its a breakdown of the social construct of a raiding guild where the expectation outside raid is you are going to make your toon as strong as possible
lusty grotto
but i do understand your point Augusto
that being said, what Roid is mentioning is vastly more important
frosty mango
no, but sometimes its not about that. You can certainly make that argument, but ...
It’s exactly about that. It’s about raid leadership requiring something for the sake of requiring it when there is no data pointing to that thing making your prog better
frosty mango
If most raid leads spent the amount of time they spend scrutinizing gear instead scrutinizing gameplay logs we’d have a lot more progression in the Midcore CE space
plush tendon
eh, its not that hard to see if someone did the work on not
its literally a quick inspec of gear during raid
or a pulling up a wowaudit
frosty mango
Most guilds maintain these big ass spreadsheets, tracking mythic plus completed and which pieces are upgraded, make raiders maintain wow audit and submit sim reports
They do all of this but 99% of the time you ask them to look at a log and break down the mechanics of what led to a wipe and they can’t
Useless raid lead imo
Not yours specifically - just pointing to the general case of what you find in most guilds
For what it’s worth you find it in real life too, the difference between leaders and managers
plush tendon
quite frankly, they way we find out if people were doing their upgrades or not
was seeing if they werent online
ivory barn
Most guilds maintain these big ass spreadsheets, tracking mythic plus completed ...
Lmao "push more button"
plush tendon
like 'has X bro been on at all?' "no he hasnt' 'well has he done his upgrades?'
undone beacon
I mean, I agree with that Roid. We do log reviews after every raid that goes into mechanical execution, defensive use, etc etc. But to Augusto's point, its part of the social aspect of "pulling your weight" outside of the raid as well. Why am I bothering to gear when jimmy isnt putting in any effort and is just raidlogging because he'll get a piece from raid vault and maybe a drop here and there. Theres social prog as well as gameplay prog that keeps people's heads in the game
frosty mango
like 'has X bro been on at all?' "no he hasnt' 'well has he done his upgrades?'
Ya and that’s simple, and effective
undone beacon
Like we didnt mandate everyone get all their voidshards before raid, but its bad looks for the people who rolled up to the second or third night with one or fewer items upgraded
ivory barn
Guild I'm in was raid logging like week 3 lol, came to raid and was like "why we wiping"
frosty mango
I mean, I agree with that Roid. We do log reviews after every raid that goes int...
Ok, I agree
But what if I consistently pull more dps, don’t mess up mechanics, but also didn’t do upgrades
Then you have someone who consistently pulls low parses and struggles mechanically but always puts max external raid time effort in
Does it still look bad on that person?
It’s really a culture question I guess
plush tendon
or we had one guy who was PVPing all weekend... didnt get his voidcores done
and its like 'you serious bud'
frosty mango
It’s all muddy and ambiguous and I hate it lol
Just make mythic ilvl locked and let the art team cook up fire transmog rewards
All problems solved
plush tendon
regardless, you are right the extra I level in the long run prob doesnt matter
heavy sparrow
was seeing if they werent online
Truuuue
plush tendon
and more practice/better mechanical play is the real solution
but sometimes, especially for a boss like pre nerf beloran, you just have to find that passion damage or up your raid overall damage
cause those sub 4% wipes on second egg are killers
undone beacon
Ok, I agree
But what if I consistently pull more dps, don’t mess up mechanics, ...
If you're pulling big numbers and not fucking up mechanics, but not bothering to increase your power otherwise, we're going to look at you weird because why would you not bother at that point? You're not getting the boot obviously but its going to reflect poorly on you still.
Someone putting in maximum effort outside of raid but can't nail their mechanics or rotation gets more leniency and we do what we can to help nurture them. If they can't get on the horse and ride though they're going to get bucked off eventually for someone that can perform, even if that performer failed to get their upgrades. But if we see two people doing well and one puts in effort for upgrades and the other doesn't, thats something thats factored in.
If they're fucking up mechanics, doing poor numbies, and not logging in, they're gonna get cut
It def is super ambiguous because it comes down to the social constructs of each group
frosty mango
I will be on my mythic transmog only soapbox until I die lol
Solves literally all the problems
undone beacon
Just turn raid gearing into pvp gearing?
You get your set of raid gear that scales to the same ilvl as everyone else and then killing each boss gives you another piece of the myth mog?
plush tendon
I think people still like raid and gear progression
frosty mango
No, imo, make the gear ilvl locked but let people choose their own itemization
Make mythic bosses drop real, new and interesting xmog
plush tendon
as its a core aspect of a game
frosty mango
And then maybe let it drop a weapon or trinket that gets empowered in mythic
Or something
plush tendon
it would make mythic raid more competitive... but I think you do lose a important aspect of what makes wow a game
kill boss, get loot, character gets stronger
frosty mango
All I know is right now their core ideology on loot is at odds with mythic balance
And it’s making the game stale
plush tendon
I mean, I wish mythic raid was easier
frosty mango
By normalizing ilvl they can balance much easier
plush tendon
I think Lura is a terrible boss with the direction of how I think the game should go
fun to watch Echo and Liquid do it
but its quite miserable
frosty mango
And if ilvl is normalized and balance is normalized, I think gear prog is less of a problem because no one cares about ilvl they only care “how big is my bar on details”
undone beacon
All I know is right now their core ideology on loot is at odds with mythic balan...
Is it though?
Gear is a natural nerfing of the raid. They aren't tuned around being 285 ilvl, they're tuned around probably 270 which is easily achievable, and then it comes down mechanical execution
I dont think changing the gearing paradigm will fix that
frosty mango
I dont think changing the gearing paradigm will fix that
I think it does because it lets them balance around a known standard
undone beacon
Who is to say they dont
frosty mango
It’s not a perfect idea by any means
plush tendon
I just think the unintended consequences of normalizing gear in a raid setting would be disastrous in terms of overall game design
undone beacon
Behind the scenes they may pick an ilvl and balance around that
Lets say these raids are balanced around 270 ilvl. Then gearing acts as a soft nerf for later in the season
frosty mango
Behind the scenes they may pick an ilvl and balance around that
Maybe but it’s hard to draw that conclusion given their track record lol
undone beacon
Like you said, no amount of gear will make the fights truly easier as its still mechanics
We can be 290 geared to the teeth with all the borrowed power and still not kill Lura because we cant execute, and having our ilvl be normalized beforehand doesnt change that
daring marlin
lol
undone beacon
4 hour maintenance to remove crest caps pog
ivory barn
4 hour maintenance to remove crest caps pog
"people weren't playing the game so we had to give a reason for people to play the game again"
lofty warren
Problem is that blizz needs to try to cater to ppl whose job it is to play wow and to Joe schmo that is missing half his Brian and has not ever heard of WCL before. To do this either they need to nerf boses over and over after release or (my preference) is to release the most unfair/punishing bosses known to man on tournament realm + easy myth versions for everyone else. The easy versions are flex size, lockout work like heroic ones, and puggable so even those that dont like raid can do it for the good gear without wasting too much time.
On the tournament realm blizz only fixes bugs and nothing else. If the try hards ask for boss nerfs, make the fights even harder. This way rwf won't have to spend so much time selling boosts and they can smash their face 3000 times against the same boss all they want without affecting everyone rlse
toxic pewter
i aint readding that essay
fringe mural
i aint readding that essay
you meanie
plush tendon
yea, lets return to more important topics
like, how much vers do I need to do a +10?
fringe mural
2.5
i find the removal of the heroic cap refreshing as a working dad
because i can chill farm heroic crests solo and just transform them into mythics
jagged pier
like, how much vers do I need to do a +10?
All of it
fringe mural
T5 ritual sites are very chill 20 hero crests
ivory barn
like, how much vers do I need to do a +10?
LMAO my warrior has a solid 37 vers
lofty warren
i aint readding that essay
Tldr - send try hard guilds to tournamebt realm with impossible bosses + release flex and puggable myth raids on regular servers
ivory barn
15m mythic would be wonderful
fringe mural
but they want to flex in silvermoon on regular servers
So people can be in awe when they see their fancy mount or title
on tournament servers they can't show the boomer dads who's boss
ivory barn
Hot take, don't buff/nerf for rwf and just release it like normal
lofty warren
If they release it like normal then rwf ppl complain its too easy
fringe mural
And drink beer every evening while complaining about their wives
it's millenial escapism from all the fucked up stuff like working double jobs, inability to afford housing or travel etc.
ivory barn
If they release it like normal then rwf ppl complain its too easy
Oh no I go from having to deal with this boss for 2 weeks to a few days
fringe mural
Oh no I go from having to deal with this boss for 2 weeks to a few days
when they don't raid they play other games to pass the time
fringe mural
let's see what the experts say, i'm none
wanton void
Looks like I'm hitting ignore pain and revenge too much, tb/TC/ss not enough?
ivory barn
Global release and make difficulty not matter
lusty grotto
Looks like I'm hitting ignore pain and revenge too much, tb/TC/ss not enough?
correct
desert fern
any1 has an addon to track debuffs on tank swaps for raid my raidframe is small etc
plush tendon
Global release and make difficulty not matter
I dont really agree with that; honestly, watching Echo and Liquid go at it on Lura was SUPER enjoyable
but there is 0 chance in hell I'd ever want to play that version of lura myself
coarse bay
any1 has an addon to track debuffs on tank swaps for raid my raidframe is small ...
Bw or northern sky both have private aura tracking for yourself and your cotank that you can move and resize
Probably dbm as well
lusty grotto
and bigwigs
lofty warren
I like cotank addon that does exactly that with special frame and sizing and debuf tracking etc
lusty grotto
youre wasting a lot of rage
wanton void
Is that tied to the revenge and ignore pain over usage? Or something else?
lusty grotto
it means youre capping rage too much
wanton void
Ahhhh
lusty grotto
which combined with overusing IP only means youre not hitting it when you should
plush tendon
is there something up with WCL where shield charge casts are super low?
Its only showing 3 casts of shield charge
lusty grotto
SC has been log bugged since DF
fringe mural
so you use all the rage when you don't have to but don't spam it enough when you get lots of rage
lusty grotto
i swear ive told you this before Augusto
fringe mural
yeah i noticed this too
plush tendon
fringe mural
0.1 cpm or something
i know i'm bad, but not that bad
when cd of sc is less than a minute
wanton void
Ahhh ok, I think that aligns with my experience of still getting overwhelmed with some of the bigger pulls which def affects me pressing the wrong buttons at the wrong times lol
ivory barn
Giant pull "oh shit pop everything" I understand that feeling
lofty warren
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1PYB2R8jH7VQZv3f?fight=3&type=damage-done&start=5785578&end=7430552 what i can do more better?
Actually dont remember how to find shield block uptime while in combat % and number of times backshot
lusty grotto
what a coincidence, i suddenly dont remember how to evaluate logs