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daring marlin
tribal wharf
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canadian / hawian is fine, canada version is hawai with bacon (various types)

daring marlin
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based

tribal wharf
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i don' give a fuck what pizza toppings it is or crust or whatever i probably eat it

daring marlin
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yogi is a lumberjack and just likes food

tribal wharf
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there

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give me one of those

daring marlin
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He's so funny

tribal wharf
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the next time blizzard does one of those live cooking events that they stream

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they should invite big name youtuber cooks to do it

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i watched them do one and it was alright but it was really a rough watching lol

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it was like, if it was a keystone they depleted every time

ocean smelt
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It's one slot per week?

undone beacon
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We don't know

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Literally all we have to work off of is what blizzard has told us, and that has been sparse

ocean smelt
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Isn't the US maintenance over? Where are our Americans beta tester at?? 😮

undone beacon
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US maintenance just started

unreal shoal
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Another hour and a half on maintenance

undone beacon
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And is two hours today

ocean smelt
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Oh

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Well

naive ravine
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Haha now the eu guys have fun

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Thats what you deserve for gettin early vault

ocean smelt
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Imma just crush some bear keys on EU while it's still OP for an other day

naive ravine
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It will be op even tomorrow

ocean smelt
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Sure, but less

undone beacon
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Nope bear is DEAD and everyone who has a bear should DELETE IT

naive ravine
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Okay will do

jagged pier
undone beacon
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Gather as feral or face the wrath of Ashmane

jagged pier
naive ravine
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Who is ashmane

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Pokemon trainer?

undone beacon
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Sorry Ashamane, discord mobile in cring

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The patron wild god of ferals

harsh trellis
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Anybody here play Doom?

jagged pier
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yogi

lofty warren
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Which dungeons should you use the buffed fire flame magic dr talent now?

tribal wharf
harsh trellis
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I use fttf on

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I use the armor one on POS, Seat, SR and WS

jagged pier
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npx is a physical dungeon tho

tribal wharf
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boomer pc later

harsh trellis
jagged pier
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maybe

tribal wharf
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the old old 80s case will be for like, wow classic and retro game 90s will be for newer

harsh trellis
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Grats on your cases Yogi

lofty warren
harsh trellis
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I hope you find lots of IDE drives for them

tribal wharf
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needs a crt monitor to go with it

harsh trellis
tribal wharf
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no these support 2025 stuff

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fully ATX compliant for the big one, matx for the other

harsh trellis
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I remember taking a saw and cutting my first pc window out of an aluminum case

tribal wharf
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if u see a pc like that, that if u are 5/10 fall out intelligence

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and u see that it is a 1970s pc

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u gunna try to rob that

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hell no

harsh trellis
lofty warren
harsh trellis
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Youre probably running much higher keys

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Im still just trying to get all my 16s done

shy ocean
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Are there any resources available on recommend talent changes for certain keys like how in seat grabbing fearless helps for the first few pulls?

naive ravine
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He is at 15 to 16 also

ivory barn
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Guessing still maintenance

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I fixed my 🗑️ of a UI yesterday LETSGOOO

harsh trellis
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@lofty warren I was looking at your runs on raider.io... one thing I can recommend is to not run MT without a lock.

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I won't run that key w/o a lock

ionic yarrow
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timed +18 with no lock yesterday, it's really just whether the healer can heal dual glaives with lust, rest is free

harsh trellis
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Yeah, I just want the skip at the end

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I don't want to deal with those 2 things cause it messes up my route

ionic yarrow
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but then you have to deal with a lock... eww

undone beacon
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Just have a route for when you have a lock and a route for without

harsh trellis
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I guess I am lucky I just have a pocket lock readily available

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I wish I had a pocket healer

undone beacon
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Last two guys together are like, 4.1%?

harsh trellis
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but some people have strange luck

ionic yarrow
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I hate locks, they are squishy and have shit kicks...

harsh trellis
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yeah but they pump

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Mine melts stuff

undone beacon
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Sounds like you have been playing with some shit locks lol

ionic yarrow
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counter argument: I present you a DK.

harsh trellis
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Dk's are great also

undone beacon
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counter counter argument, you have to bring a DK

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I dont bring DKs to my keys anymore

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They always fucking suck

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Too many fotm unholy chuds

ionic yarrow
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mine usually do 200k dps and never die

undone beacon
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Thats my warlocks keks

ionic yarrow
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I don't believe you

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LIES

undone beacon
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The longer the season goes on the more shitter fotm dps you end up with

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I've seen DDHs and UDKs drag HARD in 18s

ionic yarrow
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just gotta stay ahead of the "shit wave", which currently sits at 17s

undone beacon
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Like I'm beating them as a shadow priest keks

harsh trellis
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If I have a shaman healer, Id rather go 3 ret paladins

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lol

ionic yarrow
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why would you run with anything but shaman?

undone beacon
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mark of the wild is nice peepo

harsh trellis
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Druids are ok, I like mistweavers also

ionic yarrow
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monks are good, I had shit luck with druids

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but shammy buff too good

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how are we feeling about today's buffs?

daring marlin
daring marlin
pastel sleet
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servers upyet?

undone beacon
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Seems not

toxic pewter
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they are up but giga disconnects occuring

plush tendon
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Id rather play with Arms Warriors and Ret Paladins tbh

undone beacon
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I mean shadow is too sadgers

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Voidform or bust

turbid matrix
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well....

plush tendon
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idk the ins and outs of Dev DH

undone beacon
plush tendon
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but I do know you gotta do some cringe stuff

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and being out of combat is like not good

daring marlin
plush tendon
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for Unholy... well if you dont leverage their CDs, they do less then tank damage

daring marlin
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I'm def gonna play arms here soon

turbid matrix
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guess....I'll take mythic heart of wind...to replace my heroic....

plush tendon
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Arms, Ret, Rogue

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what chads

daring marlin
harsh trellis
plush tendon
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it was the same last season; I think Monksea (or some other brew one trick) was doing some pretty high keys with a melee cleave comp

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and its sooo good

harsh trellis
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Melee cleave is awesome

undone beacon
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Big phys comps my beloved

plush tendon
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if I were to push keys again, that is what Id want to play

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non CD relient DPS

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where you can just go pack by pack, have interrupts for days, general tankiness

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and it doesnt matter cause you always have damage

undone beacon
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i will say as much as i enjoy shadow, i do miss 1 min / no cd class stuff

plush tendon
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Frost mage is like that now

undone beacon
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I had so much fun in keys as DF no-cd surv

fluid widget
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As a tank, melee cleave is super chill to just keep going

plush tendon
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Currently, the only range dps I like to play

undone beacon
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Fury of the eagle every 30-45 seconds, crank some people

fluid widget
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Like I don’t have to think about frozen orbs or earthquakes

plush tendon
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well ele is also CD relient

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they do jack outside of acdenance

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Frost mage legit has no CD

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except Ray

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and thats two charges on 45 second CD or some shit

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hows Windwalker?

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does anyone know?

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I never see them anymore except in PVP

shrewd moss
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i have 3 myths in vault that can replace 3 hero items: helm, trinket (heart of wind), and omission of light. is the helm the way to go?

undone beacon
shrewd moss
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true

plush tendon
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heart of wind is a decent trinket

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if you arent gonna raid

shrewd moss
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i'm gonna raid tho so yeah fair point

plush tendon
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its prob helm, but I would wait

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until after raid/bonus rolls

shrewd moss
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i can get ring on bonus roll from NPX and trinks from raids

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yeah ty good call

fluid widget
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You can get helm from bonus rolls too

shrewd moss
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yeah true

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i'd catalyze anyway

undone beacon
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Interesting options on the warlock peepo

fluid widget
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I’d argue ring because more places for helm including saladhar

frosty mango
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Very reliant on cooldowns and gaming your hero talents

plush tendon
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looks fun in PVP

shrewd moss
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oh shit i didn't realize that the trinket was bis for m+

plush tendon
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but im not a monk player

plush tendon
shrewd moss
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heart of wind

plush tendon
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its not BiS

undone beacon
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bis lists are fake

shrewd moss
undone beacon
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sim your char

shrewd moss
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ah

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i see

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y'know

plush tendon
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its BiS when you consider only dungeons

shrewd moss
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that reminds me of something somebody once told me

lofty warren
shrewd moss
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"sim yo self"

plush tendon
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but if you raid, Gaze, Plume, Heart of Mountain thing

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are all better

undone beacon
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You should go to sims first before gearing guides

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As sims are tailored to your character

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gearing guides are generalized assumptions

shrewd moss
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thank you for the guidance

tribal wharf
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time for vault

shrewd moss
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i will absolutely take this into consideration

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and not come back next week asking the same question

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trust

plush tendon
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gearing is now super easy for me

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spending crests on craft cape, equip my myth shield

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and hope I get the rings from Nexus

smoky pollen
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Are we OP yet?

plush tendon
undone beacon
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I'm fully mythed on the priest other than neck, so im torn between taking Salhadaar neck from vault or taking socket and crafting a neck

plush tendon
undone beacon
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Hmmmge

plush tendon
smoky pollen
plush tendon
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I just need the cantrip rings

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then Im the BiS list

undone beacon
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I managed the cantrip rings so im j chillin

smoky pollen
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My pocket spriest is getting myth of the dawn this week so I’m just getting carried anyway rn

undone beacon
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i should be able to hit myth of dawn on my priest now

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im trying to game it a bit to be able to squeeze out big uppies but

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math

smoky pollen
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P sure I’m still a few weeks off but I’m dumb so idk
It’ll happen when it happens

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I had absolutely silly luck lately so I’m chilling. I got Myth Gaze & Myth heart in the same week like two weeks ago

ionic fern
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God damn

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PNG

tribal wharf
ionic fern
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There we go.

ionic fern
ionic fern
tribal wharf
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all my other options was mid as fuck

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belt and chest, already myth chest probably

fluid widget
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Meh myth vorasius ring

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Feels not worth it

plush tendon
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bonus roll time

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or socket

undone beacon
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I need sockets

flint oriole
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how would be the new build

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same

undone beacon
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but this salhadaar neck looks juicy

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No new build

smoky pollen
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I can’t wait to get home and still be incapable of living more than 3 stacks of the bleed in Skyreach at +17

fluid widget
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Because rolling in nexus sounds miserable

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especially since the 12.0.7 patch will probably break the ring set

undone beacon
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How would it break the ring set?

naive panther
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why will it break ring set,? some new ring?

undone beacon
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Oh i guess maybe if the Rotmire ring is better

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I feel like getting a good Sporecaller's Blooming Loop is going to be a nightmare though, since the stats are random

ivory barn
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Pash, I unfucked my UI KEKW

stoic hound
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within the new raid and updated item levels from it, the m+ gear will also be updated, right?

undone beacon
ivory barn
undone beacon
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The updated item levels for trinkets/weapons is an external item you get and apply to the item

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The drops themselves arent changing

undone beacon
ivory barn
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Funny af, that there is 0 fps drop with this LOL

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Well near 0 it's 90-130 in combat

fallow lance
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is the shield upgradable?

stoic hound
undone beacon
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Oh, all the sporefall items are 298 on ptr. Subject to change though

stoic hound
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for example I do not raid, only m+, if there other 298 gear, it must be then somehow replicated in m+ I guess

ocean smelt
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As far as we know, no it's not

undone beacon
plush tendon
smoky pollen
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The sporefall raid will likely be super puggable at all difficulties

lunar flare
smoky pollen
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Oh undoubtedly

undone beacon
mystic cave
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Gaze came home, with leach 🙏

undone beacon
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giga

fringe mural
undone beacon
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they should add an item off the socket vendor to let you add other terts to your gear

ocean smelt
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Would be dope

lofty warren
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Any math/overall analysis available for the latest pwar tuning (fttf talent, ip buff, phalynx buff)?

ionic fern
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There is no math needed.

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Nothing changes

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You are slightly tankier.

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You're welcome.

worn reef
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i got hero track haste vers one from seat got this crit vers mythic in vault, that 2 set avoidance any good? cause i also got that nexus ring in the vault too mythic track wondering if that 2 set beats the avoidance 2 set

lofty warren
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Hmm I guess that is good. Use ftff on AA, MC, MT, and NPX dungeons now instead of the armor one?

naive panther
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thats the question i have

lofty warren
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Not gonna lie I highly question whether fttf is worth on Mc especially since the hardest things (at least for me) is pull 1 with the berserkers, next pull with the elephant, and last boss when he slams and knocks you

naive panther
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i wish it was magic and damage over time effects

echo egret
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10 minutes of being declined for every +17 group i applied to (I have all 16s timed)... that's new

lofty warren
oak ivy
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Oh hurray, we got the new fun upgrade thing. Hope you're excited to farm catalyst charges again to get youe upgrade though!

worn reef
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well i picked the seat ring, hope this avoidance buff is decent

lunar flare
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I loved the priory tome trinket too because I love books

lunar flare
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Id love the book even more if they gave me Siren Isle 2.0 and made all the pages random drops so you just never know what you'll get!!

ivory barn
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So the fucking dropper thing for the upgrades is a slot machine

abstract arch
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What's the deal with the new hammer thing?

oak ivy
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Do the quest then farm it like catalyst charges.

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:)

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Hope you like rng

fallow lance
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whats the order priority on the upgrades on the hamme thingy?

short mist
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Did prot become the best tank by brew and bear both getting the nurf hammer?

dusky canopy
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Shield

smoky pollen
wooden spruce
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someone at pally discord about changes rn :v

oak ivy
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:(

jagged pier
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Stop coping brew and bear still top

jagged pier
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Pash u know as well as me the druid nerf was like 4% at worse

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So its still massively ahead

undone beacon
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Shhhh

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Bear is deadge now okay fr fr ong no cap

jagged pier
undone beacon
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I gotta start farming voidshards or something now

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boy oh boy

toxic pewter
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im so confused how this works relating to alts i dont see this weeks questline on my alt

undone beacon
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i think once you turn it on on your main its just unlocked

toxic pewter
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I see

plush tendon
lofty warren
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Agree that bear and brew are best now. Bear nerfed about 12% and they were doing like 30% more than next highest (brew). Bear moved from strongest m+ tank of all time to.. Just regular s tier tank

smoky pollen
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I think we are best.

wooden spruce
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you're all delusional, according to this site, bear is D
(someone posted this on another place to argue bear was in a bad spot :v)

jagged pier
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Be yellow

plush tendon
lunar flare
plush tendon
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no other tank even has the same Shield Block uptime as us

smoky pollen
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Have you seen the ignore pain values of the other tank classes? Laughable in comparison

plush tendon
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Bears only have one charge

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Actually useless

jagged pier
lunar flare
dusky canopy
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first one to loot 5 void shards gets @lusty grotto’s mom

jagged pier
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But im stuck in eu

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Na always advantage

dusky canopy
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Watch rng boss

lunar flare
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damn i didnt know nimchips mom was chill like that

woven perch
plush tendon
lunar flare
hollow finch
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so whats the new prot build after the buffs ?

undone beacon
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same build as before

kind patrol
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Did the buff today help?

dusky canopy
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2h sword build

undone beacon
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there is no new build in ba sing se

woven perch
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no change, just survival boost

undone beacon
plush tendon
woven perch
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just a smidge

plush tendon
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about tree fiddy

woven perch
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about this much | |

lofty warren
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The 298 upgrade is 1x per account?

woven perch
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i'm hearing its RNG

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after the first, haven't gotten it myself yet but that's what i'm hearing

coarse bay
lofty warren
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I will wait for others to be the gineau pigs

undone beacon
coarse bay
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The bird is what really tells me that there is a secret build

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And its bear

lofty warren
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Pwar ehrps % change for keys after tuning?

mighty valley
vocal junco
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Is the eternal egg worth using? It does 6% healing in keys and I think it helps with keeping me alive… I only have the heroic one

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I don’t see it mentioned in any guide for better or worse

undone beacon
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Its kinda dog. Random defensive procs tend to be meaningless overall to survival

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And you'll likely never see the haste from it

daring marlin
limpid orbit
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What race do you guys think has the best sound affects & screams when playing prot

undone beacon
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male goblin is pretty good

spiral jetty
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goblin for sure

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waaaaaaaah

smoky pollen
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I quite enjoy Mag’Har orc

lunar flare
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vulpera for all warrior related questions

spiral jetty
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also fair

undone beacon
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I'm playing a female drac and in dragon form it sounds basically the same as male drac lol

plush tendon
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yall have sound on

undone beacon
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but im also always in visage so

undone beacon
arctic hearth
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I wish taurens had a travel form like worgens

undone beacon
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and now anytime i hear the music from the Nexus King fight in mfo i have a trauma reaction

lunar flare
spiral jetty
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i didnt know drac had voice lines in dragon form, wtf do they even do

smoky pollen
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In game music is diabolical

ruby musk
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Roar mostly.

undone beacon
smoky pollen
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Although this is one of the few games I do have actual game sound on

lunar flare
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yeah theres plenty of decent music wdym

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anything by leo kaliski is always a banger

undone beacon
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Sometimes in eversong the new version of the eversong theme starts playing and i get SHIVERS

spiral jetty
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priory without in game music is unimaginable to me

lunar flare
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yeah that music playing as you get to p2 of the final boss was sick

smoky pollen
spiral jetty
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man

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it synced up to the actual dungeon progression so well

smoky pollen
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In my headcanon, Priory sounds mostly like grunge (I was on a big kick at that time)

undone beacon
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i just macro Meerah's Jukebox to my abilities so it drops it on cooldown

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DOLLY AND DOT ARE MY BEST FRIENDS

mighty valley
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study your rotation to optimize

undone beacon
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Yeah but what if I dont care about EDDT? I'm already spending so much time tracking NP (Nightfae Panflute)

mighty valley
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i mean yeah if you wanna be a freaking casual, you do you

undone beacon
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i unironically macro'd the nightfae flute into kill command when i was playing my hunter

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so every 10 seconds i got to hear some nice lil fluting :3

mighty valley
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that's hype

lunar flare
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the only correct combo is avatar+sparkle wings

mighty valley
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i had a WA that played Gas Gas Gas whenever I got PI

undone beacon
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i wish i could change outfits in combat so when i hit avatar i change into the Vault of the Incarnates mog and be a rock monster

mighty valley
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remember what they took from us...

undone beacon
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My priest sims are saying take socket for ST and Salhadaar neck for AoE

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i think if i take neck that alone could get me over the 285 threshold

fresh zealot
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is anyone else simming a crafted 295 vs non crafted 298 weapon? im coming up with 600 dps more cause of embelly? over 4 ilvls not sure if thats right

undone beacon
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If you're simming, you need to make sure to add an embel to another slot

fresh zealot
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yeah like shield for arcano caus eiu cant do sigil on shield right

undone beacon
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If you're simming having an embel vs having no embel, ofc embel is going to win

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but moving the embel to something like cloak/wrists and getting a myth weapon is going to be more dps than having an embel weapon

plush tendon
undone beacon
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Because in practice you're not giving up embel for nothing, you're just moving it around

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And yes hunt is only for weapons

narrow jay
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We sending out first 298 hammer on shield or weapon?

wooden spruce
lunar flare
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how do you have all these images just on hand

undone beacon
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I'm quick on the draw

narrow jay
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Not hard to Google an image save it and send it here

undone beacon
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and sometimes i craft my own

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like this one

wooden spruce
gloomy solar
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Is there a way to see what rotation a sim is using?

lunar flare
narrow jay
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Lmao no problem 😂

undone beacon
narrow jay
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Im guessing we do shield to 298 since its our most important slot?

undone beacon
wooden spruce
limpid orbit
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I should be hitting revenge more than IP?

plush tendon
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I think you end up hitting IP more often then Revenge

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since its a off the GCD rage dump

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and its more important to spend globals on things like SS and Thunderclap which are rage generators

limpid orbit
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Word

plush tendon
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if you arent going to cap on rage and have no generators up, you should be revenging

limpid orbit
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Why would I spend when I won’t cap

undone beacon
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Because spending is the entire backbone of the spec

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Procs resets on shield slam

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fuels anger managment

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And if you dont have SS or TC ready to hit, you need to hit something

narrow jay
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More rage spent = more avatars and shield walls

heavy sparrow
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I'm 1 item away from shield with dungeon voidcores but dang, tough choice

narrow jay
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= more defensive and offensive value

wooden spruce
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are haranir racials good for pwarr? im thinking of rerolling haranir, kultiran or peak boring human (because of stun removal only kek)

but probably will go for looks and haranir kinda fire with plate mogs

undone beacon
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Racials dont matter outside of dwarf

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If you like the vibe or Haranir, play one

plush tendon
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^ basically this

undone beacon
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The racial root burst thing is neat for ranged pulling ig

heavy sparrow
plush tendon
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Dwarf is the best Prot War race

undone beacon
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Dwarf > Dark Iron > Everything Else more or less

plush tendon
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though human is also quite strong; the stun break is quite strong and the 2% more stats is very good

heavy sparrow
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I only chose human because when I came back I was under the impression the human racial was still a free pvp trinket but just kinda rolled with it

plush tendon
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its still helpful in PVP

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but it puts your trinket on a 1 min CD

undone beacon
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sometimes when im bored i run racial sims just to see

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the robot says my priest should be a panda

plush tendon
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Im currently human on my war cause I prefer the TMOG options on human models slightly more then dwarf

heavy sparrow
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yeah - I thought about rolling dwarf, but so far 17s & 18s the tankbuster bleeds are barely noticable & I got the solar core igniter trinket rn

plush tendon
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but if I ever decide to push high M+ again on my Prot War, its a insta swap to dwarf

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from my understanding, the only dungeon that really requires us to be dwarf would be AA

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otherwise, its fine

heavy sparrow
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I'd imagine 19s the bleeds would be more unforgiving

undone beacon
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I love being a mag'har priest but im seriously thinking of going goblin/drac just for the mobility

plush tendon
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Pash is limited to the uggo races

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refuses to play Alliance

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smh

heavy sparrow
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AA 17 & 18 just 2 pack pulling to 40% and letting the the 3rd kinda come to you on its own the trick (if you're a scrub like me)

undone beacon
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Alliance stinky

undone beacon
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If i wanted to dpsmax i would swap to panda or orc

lofty warren
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How many more buffs until pwar dps is at least within 20% of bear post nerf?

lunar flare
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5.2

wooden spruce
heavy sparrow
#

joke to them saying get guud

lunar flare
#

The first part I expected but the second seems a bit whack surely

#

Maybe soul ash wasn’t so bad

undone beacon
#

once you do the last round of 3, shards start dropping in all forms of content basically

#

and dont seem to be capped, people in spriest discord already have gotten like 8 shards

red ferry
#

@undone beacon

undone beacon
#

5 shards per upgrade

#

Hello Khailby whats up

red ferry
#

Ur only 10% better than every other non brew tank

#

i came to check on u

#

How r u holding up…

undone beacon
#

I'm a shadow priest now peepohide

#

I gave up the tank hat for this season

red ferry
#

they put you on psychic link jail???

undone beacon
#

Someone has to be fort bitch sadgers

#

Shadow is fun tho so its ok

red ferry
#

is it fun now

#

In bfa i remember complaints

undone beacon
#

Yeah because dot extension is tied to ghosts and not voidform so its super chill to keep things rolling

red ferry
#

Wtf they tied it to ghosts now

#

Thats actually so based

#

enjoy shadow priesting

#

Just steer clear of WCP shadow off-topic unless you want to be mindblasted irl

undone beacon
red ferry
#

While i have you captive do you know what 20 across is

undone beacon
#

I do not sorry

warm plinth
#

Woah cheating on crossword amh

#

Smh*

jagged pier
#

Khailby return

red ferry
#

Back in the day you would do the crossword with an encyclopedia next to you

#

Asking a friend is fair game imo

red ferry
#

I am going to eat dorito and watch simpsons in a minute cause i am bored

undone beacon
#

I've been on the Bob's Burgers grindset

warm plinth
#

I thought this was portal room momentarily when I saw them

red ferry
#

im waiting for new episodes

#

i consider teddy my spirit animal perchance

plush tendon
red ferry
frosty mango
#

Oh shit khailby is back

red ferry
#

I think 10 and 11 down are crosswordese

#

but im not certain

#

Im not even gonna attempt a Question-based hint this early

#

question hints are always trick answers or joke answers

meager needle
#

happy time, did my first 18 ever 🙂

red ferry
#

🎉

red ferry
#

ty

#

Wait

#

That doesnt fit

#

Unless this isnt nolan ryan

ruby musk
#

Sorry, how many letters?

red ferry
#

7

#

So glories could work

#

But if its not nolan ryan then my baseball knowledge fails me

ruby musk
#

I think your down word is wrong.

red ferry
#

Maybe

#

But who else would fit

ruby musk
#

Glories is the quote. Its from St. Augistine's City of God.

red ferry
#

i believe that

plush tendon
#

what is the baseball hint then?

red ferry
#

Oh, i know who it is

#

Its bob gibson

#

What a copout

#

I feel cheated

#

Thank you

ruby musk
#

No problem. Gotta put my masters of philosophy to work somehow.

wooden spruce
red ferry
#

the only place where it is considered cheating is at the competitions

fringe mural
red ferry
#

But thats because all of those ones are hand picked to mostly use crosswordese

#

And not pop trivia

fringe mural
#

crosswords are to be done with your own head only

red ferry
#

Such as an obscure musician from the 1700s

dusky canopy
#

Can I just walk over and do ritual site tier 1 or is it gated by some kind of unlock quest line?

wooden spruce
#

i may be kinda old, but i've never seen that on any city i lived lol, using encyclopedias was considered cheating

undone beacon
dusky canopy
#

Bet

abstract arch
#

Finally a reason tondo ritual sites

red ferry
#

Id like to see anyone solve “Danish Culture’s Cozy Conviviality” without a seed word or an encyclopedia

abstract arch
#

Inb4 it gets hotfixed

red ferry
#

Who isnt danish, anyway

fringe mural
abstract arch
#

Farming stuff for the hammer

fringe mural
#

it's also a good field test to see if you suck with your alt

#

if you lose in a ritual site you shouldn't go into a key

quick flame
#

so

#

is it worth to take the apex talent now?

#

or is it still goofy

fringe mural
#

go away

undone beacon
#

It always was

undone beacon
#

It was goofy to not take apex

quick flame
#

nah lmao

#

1 point it is

fringe mural
#

poor nim

#

people always try to bait him

red ferry
#

To reiterate on crossword conversation

#

I believe in tournaments after an elapsed period of time

#

They do open up access to encyclopedias and / or restricted search engines

abstract arch
#

Nah

red ferry
#

🤓

abstract arch
#

If you dont know you dont know

red ferry
#

I just checked the official rules

#

S’what it says

abstract arch
#

Rules bad

red ferry
#

Ur bad

#

:ragey:

abstract arch
#

Probably

undone beacon
#

i keep a little guy in the shirt pocket and he gives me answers if i feed him snacks

abstract arch
#

Morse code hidden vibration device

#

😉

red ferry
wooden spruce
jagged pier
#

then just do delves

winged oar
wooden spruce
dusky canopy
#

Sound like zulaman ritual site with 3 people going opposite directions is the fastest

fringe mural
#

oh but

#

that voidcore stuff means we can achieve 285 much quicker

#

which helps alt gearing a lot

severe star
#

Can we do shields?

fringe mural
#

idk, i'm an eu pleb

slender bison
#

When are we getting Halls of Valor in M+ rotation?

#

Since titan flavour and order returns back on track

undone beacon
jagged pier
#

u have to kill like 5 mobs total

dusky canopy
#

Not sure about the hammer 2bh

undone beacon
#

quest says bountiful, raid, and M+ so

#

first wing lfr real fast ig

frosty mango
#

Crafted gear goes to 295 right?

jagged pier
#

yes

#

so u want myth items really

severe star
#

Can we do shields

jagged pier
#

u want to do wep first anyway

#

but yes

lunar flare
jagged pier
#

i believe so

ivory barn
#

Thanks wowhead for nerfing Everything

lunar flare
#

The trick is to not post about it on Reddit since that’s where wowhead steals all their news from

severe star
#

Unfortunately every weapon sims lower than my crafted one

undone beacon
#

Are you accounting for moving the embel

jagged pier
#

r u adding an emblishments so another piece

undone beacon
#

Or just comparing a set with an embel to a set without

severe star
#

I was not whoops

jagged pier
severe star
#

Whelp in a week I got to do some simming

#

After I use 6 bonus rolls

charred shard
#

Any pins about whether we should upgrade shield, wep or gaze/heart first ?

lusty grotto
#

trinkets are never first

#

its probably gonna be weapon, and then shield

smoky pollen
#

But what if I really really wanna upgrade gaze first

lusty grotto
#

thats a you thing

abstract arch
#

There a weekly cap on the voidcores?

jagged pier
smoky pollen
naive ravine
#

So far it seems like they arent timegated

#

According to wowhead

jagged pier
#

just be lucky

naive ravine
#

Yeah man farm ritual sites

jagged pier
#

will be fixed before eu

#

cheer for testing NA

naive ravine
#

Hope so

toxic pewter
#

how long take 5 of these thingies

naive ravine
toxic pewter
#

wat ddrop rate

jagged pier
#

they like cata charges

toxic pewter
#

i see

shrewd cosmos
#

Do they drop from Delves lv 1

toxic pewter
#

seems drop rate is 50% i either get 1 o r i dont

#

50% chance

jagged pier
#

i mean thats for everything u ither get it or u dont

cerulean tusk
#

The time has come

daring marlin
toxic pewter
#

:nodders:

stoic hound
#

does anyone know, if I haven't complete any single pit this week, will I get any anytimes from this dung in vault?

lusty grotto
#

you can

cerulean tusk
#

Loot table from M+ is the whole pool of M+ items, all dungs.

lusty grotto
#

yup

stoic hound
#

thank you

daring marlin
#

Ascendant upgrades are NOT time-gated
︀︀
︀︀- 5 shards to upgrade one item (2h included)
︀︀- No cap on shard acquisition
︀︀
︀︀Sources for shards:
︀︀- Raid Bosses: ~1/3 chance estimate
︀︀- Ritual Sites: ~1/5 chance estimate
︀︀- Bountiful Delves with key
︀︀- Weekly Nightmare Preys
︀︀- M+ any level

**💬 6 🔁 16 ❤️ 160 👁️ 14.5K **

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oh ok

ionic yarrow
#

is weapon > shield for voidcore?

stoic hound
#

if I have 80 rage, and have active free proc on ss and I do not need ip, should I still ss+ip or rather delay using ss for 1 gcd of revenge?

undone beacon
#

Send the IP

lusty grotto
#

off gcd is quicker rage consumption than a gcd

stoic hound
#

thank you

fresh zealot
#

think im gonna 298 sword and board and go double arcano. not sure if thats play though since i hjave to dismiss sigil

toxic pewter
#

yo i got 4 shards already

#

surely i will get 5th very soon

warm plinth
toxic pewter
mystic cave
#

okay this upgrade thing sucks

toxic pewter
#

why

mystic cave
#

its uncapped, but the drop rate outside of raid is abysmal

#

so if i need 20 of these things, im stuck doing 100s of rituals or keys for crests i dont need

toxic pewter
#

do all lfr lol

#

lfr wher it at

#

i already got 4 from lfr

mystic cave
#

did lfr and normal, i have 7 total

naive ravine
#

still cringe that blizzard trys to force you to raid

toxic pewter
#

they will prob buff m+ rate

slender bison
#

thank you NA turbo boost live testers again, you're the real champs so EU can have fun 🙏 🙏 🙏

mystic cave
#

including the 10 rituals ive done

toxic pewter
warm plinth
#

That gif will never get old

lusty grotto
plush tendon
naive ravine
#

0/10 ragebait

plush tendon
#

Im not rage baiting; just want to be helpful

#

:3

undone beacon
#

alright finally able to do some rituals lets see if anything comes of it

ionic yarrow
#

are voidcores timegated?

slender bison
plush tendon
plush tendon
undone beacon
#

a full lfr blitz netted me 3 shards so

plush tendon
#

LFR

#

not happening

undone beacon
#

its ez rn cuz all the big dicks are in there getting their shards

#

bosses die in under a minute

plush tendon
#

if by big dicks do you mean WFH, the unemployed, and dad gamers

undone beacon
#

ye

still solar
#

so what's the vibe on first upgrade, are people doing weapon or shield first

plush tendon
#

prob Shield->Wep->Trinket->Trinket

#

but whats prob gonna happen is before doing any serious content, gonna grind out all 4

opal ledge
#

any info on how many items we can put 298 this week? and if it work on shields?

naive ravine
#

I will hold all shards till I can do all of them at once

plush tendon
#

so doesnt even matter what I do first

plush tendon
opal ledge
#

what level the hero item goes to?

slender bison
#

276+9 = 285

slender bison
lunar flare
warm plinth
#

Book?

lusty grotto
#

yeah ghash its the new delve belt

#

or cyrce's or the DF lab one, etc

undone beacon
#

but not a piece of gear

lusty grotto
coarse bay
#

Wait for real

#

Is this a thing

lusty grotto
#

for the .7 patch

coarse bay
#

We’re cooked chat

smoky pollen
#

Do people fr pull this dungeon like this?

undone beacon
#

The Omnium Folio

coarse bay
#

It is an option

smoky pollen
#

I’m so washed

coarse bay
#

No need to change a route that works tho

#

Just keep doing what youre doing

#

I worded that wrong

smoky pollen
#

Yeah I don’t think I’m gonna try this one; just got shared to me and critcake

coarse bay
#

Ya i dont agree with trying a new route linked to you in an io key unless you feel confident

#

Something to try in resi or something lower

smoky pollen
#

Sorry, I meant my friend said “dude check out this route we just did in a pug”
I definitely think he’s trying to help because I have had a miserable time in Nexus Point lately

coarse bay
#

Ah ya

#

Id give it a try, sometimes its nice perspective to fully shake it up like that

smoky pollen
#

My issue in general has been pulling more than 3 defenders at a time

shrewd cosmos
#

Do you have Last Stand ?

smoky pollen
#

Negative

lusty grotto
#

wont make a difference

#

just clear your heal absorbs

#

stun, walk back

#

piercing howl, walk back

#

walk back with SR on

#

ask for a ring of peace

smoky pollen
#

This is what I have been doing mostly or atleast trying to.

shrewd cosmos
#

Last Stand works great in 17+

lusty grotto
#

last stand is unneeded

#

if the healer is huffing paint, you cant do much, they need to be ready for that wing

#

you can tell which one is ready and which one just shouldn't be healing this key

#

it is EXTREMELY obvious

shrewd cosmos
#

If you count on healers yes but if you wanna help yourself this is the way

lusty grotto
#

with enough control of the absorb, a healer can take care of 2-4 stacks easily

#

if you wanna help yourself you kite

#

well not kite

#

but you control it like it was mentioned

smoky pollen
#

Maybe I’m letting it stack too high before I start moving away

lusty grotto
#

well sure

vocal quiver
#

Do prot warriors have any ability to help for the chains in Seat?

lusty grotto
#

you need to turn on private auras

smoky pollen
opal ledge
#

i'm wondering... maybe now it's time to start grabbing sockets instead of extra rolls?

lusty grotto
#

otherwise how are you gonna handle the heal absorbs, the talons in Skyreach, and the AA pull?

lusty grotto
#

hes wrong

smoky pollen
#

True

lusty grotto
#

turn on private auras (with bigwigs/littlewigs or DBM/DBM-dungeons, so these debuffs are nice and visible

smoky pollen
#

Shares the shame choice node was my confusion

#

I have them on, I think I just in general haven’t started moving early enough

lusty grotto
#

just be careful with moving on that pull, you dont wanna pull the roaming seer

#

be smart about it

#

and 100% never perma kite

#

you back up, you reset, you go back in

#

otherwise youre gonna be at a huge rage problem

#

that applies to skyreach and AA

#

and when i say AA, i mean battle axes, you cant kite lashers - you can only leap out beyond 25yds to reset (and dwarf)

smoky pollen
#

Yeah I’ve gotten the battle axes down well and come to terms with the bleed absolutely shredding me in Skyreach

lusty grotto
#

skyreach is not a bleed

#

its a fire dot

#

the only bleed in skyreach is blade rush from blade talons

smoky pollen
#

I don’t play Dwarf so ultimately DoT all look the same to me

lusty grotto
#

the distinction is important

smoky pollen
#

If the healer can’t dispel it I just have to eat it

lusty grotto
#

fire is mitigated by Magic DR

#

bleeds are not

toxic pewter
#

vulpera bis in skyreach 1% fire magic dr

#

those dots dont do shit

lusty grotto
drifting basin
#

Is Double Time worth keeping in a raid environment? There's gotta be something more useful I can put that point in, no?

lusty grotto
#

depends on the fight i suppose

drifting basin
#

Also, is thane still better than colossus? Is it significant which one you go with? Thane is fun but I'd like to try out the other side.

lusty grotto
#

thane is considerably ahead as of last week

drifting basin
drifting basin
lusty grotto
#

you dont need talent swaps for anything under mythic

smoky pollen
#

I’m sure one season this expansion Colossus will be correct

lusty grotto
#

dont overthink it

drifting basin
#

After initial charge it's fairly rare I need to use charge again through most of these fights. Just feels like a wasted point sometimes.

lusty grotto
#

how are you gonna help with shockwave

harsh trellis
#

I use it on skyreach on first boss.

lusty grotto
#

people arent supposed to be on top of you

lunar flare
ivory barn
drifting basin
#

I mean, it's a decent range. If I'm tanking the boss facing the middle all I'd have to do is turn around and fire it off and spin back. Not like I could do a whole lot but it'd be something at least.

lusty grotto
#

seems like youre entirely overthinking something

#

but

#

sure go for it

#

you dont need our permission

drifting basin
#

I was more just seeing if it's important to keep double time. I couldn't think of any reason why it would be but wanted to ask and see if anyone had a reason for it that I wasn't aware of.

lusty grotto
#

if youre doing last phase swaps

#

gloom swaps, more specifically

#

youll probably have leap for those

#

so 🤷‍♂️

#

completely up to you

#

depends on what you need

drifting basin
#

Suppose I could give it a go. See if it does anything useful tonight

smoky pollen
#

I mean

#

Someone can smack my hand for this one

#

But why not just interrupting shout?

lusty grotto
#

or storm bolts

#

there's plenty of options

smoky pollen
#

If you’re talking about giving your back to the boss for a GCD of shockwave that feels like it could very easily become disastrous

arctic hearth
#

Pretty sure it’s like an AOE taunt too, so if your in phase 3 of normal/heroic you might taunt the other boss as well

arctic hearth
smoky pollen
#

It is

#

Which is why someone could argue that it’s a bad idea

arctic hearth
#

It could be, just communicate with your co-tank and let them know if possible

smoky pollen
#

Flat out I have tanked pretty much the entirety of heroic in my m+ spec so what decisions you make in regards to some talents are pretty inconsequential

drifting basin
#

I wouldn't want to risk the AoE taunt honestly. For most of the fight it wouldn't be an issue just due to distance the bosses stand apart. But the p3 would be rough. Though honestly I guess if people are just on top of what they're doing it wouldn't matter that much anyway. I suppose neither would my original question. Idk, just trynna find more ways to be helpful.

#

On a related note, why do we ever spec intervene? It legitimately has never come in handy once but it's in the recommended talent build on IV for raid.

smoky pollen
#

Inconsequential

lusty grotto
#

its great for movement

smoky pollen
#

There is no “good” reason to take it other than making sure you have enough points in that portion of the talent tree to continue on & ensure you can gain access to spell reflect & honed reflexes

lusty grotto
#

mouseover intervene to a friendly can help you keep uptime and intervene at the last second

abstract arch
#

so its just spam T1 ritual sites with no modifiers right?

daring marlin
abstract arch
#

they in the end chest or on corpses?

undone beacon
#

Get a group, split up and kill the 6 minis, kill the end boss, maybe get a shard from the end chest

#

Repeat ad nauseum

abstract arch
#

👍

undone beacon
#

There’s also a bug where the dragonhawk boss will be unattackable if someone stands on its spawn point before it lands

#

So don’t do that

pastel sleet
#

may be a hotfix out that makes it not farmable on t1. just reporting. has anyone gotten a shard inthe last 15 minutes from this?

abstract arch
#

i havent

#

and i started 15 mins ago

#

nvm just got one. still working

lusty grotto
#

ive gotten jack shit

#

but im historically unlucky

abstract arch
#

man this is terrible

lusty grotto
#

i did a couple now im tired, fuck it, ill get it when i get it

proud dock
#

285 crafted weap and a 289 max out myth weap upgrade to the same 290 ilvl with void right?

pastel sleet
#

no

round olive
#

any one know the best defensive trinket we run outta m+?

#

or do we just normally run double dps?

lusty grotto
#

you use them if you need it

#

but the best two are solar core (skyreach) and globule (pit), in that order

round olive
#

im currently running gaze and heart but i have the vault option today for jelly and ampule myth

warm plinth
proud dock
lusty grotto
round olive
#

gotcha

daring marlin
#

I'm just gonna juice my crafted 2H first so I can be 285 for my alts

warm plinth
#

gottem

daring marlin
round olive
#

only gay if he smiles

daring marlin
slim egret
#

which items should we rank up tomorrow?

abstract arch
#

i feel like this was stealth nerfed with the hotfix today

dusky canopy
#

the ritual farm was prob nerfed yeah

#

they dont like people speed running

#

but just a guess

abstract arch
#

im getting passed up for 10s now

#

its getting worse every week

harsh trellis
#

THIS IS THE WAY

abstract arch
#

im guaranteed the 2 drops i want from seat this week too lmao

maiden nimbus
#

Question on shield charge usage in m+.

I sometimes save using it on CD to align w my avatar. A habit from TWW when we had bug damage with it.

Does that really matter any more? Or do we just send it on CD for the most part?

Sometimes I’m in situations where I have like 20s on avatar CD and shield charge is up. I need to use it to fill Shield Block uptime but am not sure if that’s hurting my dps when it gets out of sync like that. An its better to try and hold out those 20s if I can to sync them.

harsh trellis
#

otherwise I just send it whenever

lusty grotto
#

if avatar is not up, demo will be or if not very close to

opal ledge
#

tier 1 void drops?

#

the void shards i mean

#

tier 1 rituals*

mighty valley
#

holding it for 20s is losing almost half a cast to get 20% damage

#

that stacks up to a lot of missed casts

#

hold a few seconds, sure, but not too long

lusty grotto
#

def dont hold it for long

warm plinth
#

I ain't holding SHIT. Full send.

#

Shield Charge ain't the boss of me

opal ledge
#

u need it for SB uptime

maiden nimbus
#

lol cool thanks for the feedback all

heavy sparrow
#

Questions like that helps us lurkers too don't be shy to ask

static bloom
#

Hey 2 Part Question for all my warrior Brothers and sisters out there ....

  1. I feel like I am taking more damage is that in my head or is any one else experiencing that? like I did 16'
#

s last week and it felt fine and now I'm doing 14's and they are ruff and
2 My shield is getting ruined like 54% durability in a key

lusty grotto
#

you shouldn't be taking more damage

#

nothing changed

#

the only thing that changed is small defensive buffs

static bloom
#

I'm not dying ... but yet my Durability is going nuts

opal ledge
#

blocking consumes more durability

static bloom
#

but it's just my shield getting chipped away hard

sweet egret
#

what do you think you're taking more damage than?

lusty grotto
#

thats just how we operate

#

its not something new

static bloom
#

I understand that but I have done keys last week and I wouldnt die and I would me like 81% which is fine but now 54% in a MC 0 Dying just seems chuffed is all

#

but if it's me then it's me and you can all Ignore the question

lusty grotto
#

do you have logs

static bloom
#

no

lusty grotto
#

because im 99% sure youre just doing something wrong compared to last week

#

you shouldn't be taking more damage, and durability has not changed

static bloom
#

ok That wasn't my question but I appreciate the feedback

opal ledge
#

i made like 5 rituals, no shard drop --- maybe it's not dropping anymore? they hotfixed it?

lusty grotto
#

its in your head

#

if thats the answer your looking for

static bloom
#

There you go 🙂

#

now your getting it

#

Thanks

lusty grotto
#

🤷‍♂️

harsh trellis
proud dock
#

can u use the void thing on shield or just weaps?

daring marlin
proud dock
#

yuge

#

tyty

next umbra
#

should i be replacing crafted pieces at high ilvl?

#

and sending ilvl boost on weap

lusty grotto
#

you should be upping your myth tracks first

#

myth track weapon, myth track shield

next umbra
#

okay thanks

dusky canopy
#

GG

opal ledge
# dusky canopy

nice! still looking for mine, i got the haste ring this week

dusky canopy
#

best of luck!

ivory barn
undone beacon
#

Thanks voidcores peepo

lofty warren
#

should you get the 289 ilvl upgrade? is it worth to use on a crafted or bonus roll a shield before

coarse bay
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Probably get myth stuff first

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With tokens it shouldnt be too unreliable

fervent parcel