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canadian / hawian is fine, canada version is hawai with bacon (various types)
based
i don' give a fuck what pizza toppings it is or crust or whatever i probably eat it
yogi is a lumberjack and just likes food
the next time blizzard does one of those live cooking events that they stream
they should invite big name youtuber cooks to do it
i watched them do one and it was alright but it was really a rough watching lol
it was like, if it was a keystone they depleted every time
It's one slot per week?
We don't know
Literally all we have to work off of is what blizzard has told us, and that has been sparse
Isn't the US maintenance over? Where are our Americans beta tester at?? 😮
US maintenance just started
Another hour and a half on maintenance
And is two hours today
Imma just crush some bear keys on EU while it's still OP for an other day
It will be op even tomorrow
Sure, but less
Nope bear is DEAD and everyone who has a bear should DELETE IT
Okay will do
but its my gathering toon, am i going to have to make another one?
Gather as feral or face the wrath of Ashmane

Anybody here play Doom?
yogi
Which dungeons should you use the buffed fire flame magic dr talent now?
npx is a physical dungeon tho
boomer pc later
I thought there was a big discussion on here a couple of nights ago where even sense was saying he uses fttf on that also
maybe
the old old 80s case will be for like, wow classic and retro game 90s will be for newer
Grats on your cases Yogi
Dang it like the armor one too. Is it possible to use both armor and fttf?
I hope you find lots of IDE drives for them
needs a crt monitor to go with it
You can, just get rid of tough as nails but if youre trolling thats cool also
no these support 2025 stuff
fully ATX compliant for the big one, matx for the other
I remember taking a saw and cutting my first pc window out of an aluminum case
if u see a pc like that, that if u are 5/10 fall out intelligence
and u see that it is a 1970s pc
u gunna try to rob that
hell no
Not at all, thats what we did before cases had side panels
Ill have to play with it. Current not using tan on favor of bsv thx
Youre probably running much higher keys
Im still just trying to get all my 16s done
Are there any resources available on recommend talent changes for certain keys like how in seat grabbing fearless helps for the first few pulls?
I do not think pepega is running higher keys then you are doing
He is at 15 to 16 also
@lofty warren I was looking at your runs on raider.io... one thing I can recommend is to not run MT without a lock.
I won't run that key w/o a lock
timed +18 with no lock yesterday, it's really just whether the healer can heal dual glaives with lust, rest is free
Yeah, I just want the skip at the end
I don't want to deal with those 2 things cause it messes up my route
but then you have to deal with a lock... eww
Just have a route for when you have a lock and a route for without
I guess I am lucky I just have a pocket lock readily available
I wish I had a pocket healer
Last two guys together are like, 4.1%?
but some people have strange luck
I hate locks, they are squishy and have shit kicks...
Sounds like you have been playing with some shit locks lol
counter argument: I present you a DK.
Dk's are great also
counter counter argument, you have to bring a DK
I dont bring DKs to my keys anymore
They always fucking suck
Too many fotm unholy chuds
mine usually do 200k dps and never die
Thats my warlocks 

The longer the season goes on the more shitter fotm dps you end up with
I've seen DDHs and UDKs drag HARD in 18s
just gotta stay ahead of the "shit wave", which currently sits at 17s
Like I'm beating them as a shadow priest 
why would you run with anything but shaman?
mark of the wild is nice 
Druids are ok, I like mistweavers also
monks are good, I had shit luck with druids
but shammy buff too good
how are we feeling about today's buffs?
TRUUUUE
Many such cases
servers upyet?
Seems not
they are up but giga disconnects occuring
they are super CD reliant
Id rather play with Arms Warriors and Ret Paladins tbh
well....
idk the ins and outs of Dev DH

but I do know you gotta do some cringe stuff
and being out of combat is like not good
yes, based
for Unholy... well if you dont leverage their CDs, they do less then tank damage
I'm def gonna play arms here soon
guess....I'll take mythic heart of wind...to replace my heroic....
I actually love Critcake's comp
Arms, Ret, Rogue
what chads

100%
it was the same last season; I think Monksea (or some other brew one trick) was doing some pretty high keys with a melee cleave comp
and its sooo good
Melee cleave is awesome
Big phys comps my beloved
if I were to push keys again, that is what Id want to play
non CD relient DPS
where you can just go pack by pack, have interrupts for days, general tankiness
and it doesnt matter cause you always have damage
i will say as much as i enjoy shadow, i do miss 1 min / no cd class stuff
Frost mage is like that now
I had so much fun in keys as DF no-cd surv
As a tank, melee cleave is super chill to just keep going
Currently, the only range dps I like to play
Fury of the eagle every 30-45 seconds, crank some people
Like I don’t have to think about frozen orbs or earthquakes
well ele is also CD relient
they do jack outside of acdenance
Frost mage legit has no CD
except Ray
and thats two charges on 45 second CD or some shit
hows Windwalker?
does anyone know?
I never see them anymore except in PVP
i have 3 myths in vault that can replace 3 hero items: helm, trinket (heart of wind), and omission of light. is the helm the way to go?

true
prob sim yo self
heart of wind is a decent trinket
if you arent gonna raid
i'm gonna raid tho so yeah fair point
You can get helm from bonus rolls too
Interesting options on the warlock 
I’d argue ring because more places for helm including saladhar
I do ok in keys but imo it isn’t fun
Very reliant on cooldowns and gaming your hero talents
oh shit i didn't realize that the trinket was bis for m+
but im not a monk player
which trinket?
heart of wind
its not BiS
bis lists are fake
sim your char
its BiS when you consider only dungeons
that reminds me of something somebody once told me
Yes im only doing 15s 16s kn pwar. I basically only did 12s on pwar this week bc of the incoming buff. Why refuse to do mt without a lock?
"sim yo self"
You should go to sims first before gearing guides
As sims are tailored to your character
gearing guides are generalized assumptions
thank you for the guidance
time for vault
i will absolutely take this into consideration
and not come back next week asking the same question
trust
gearing is now super easy for me
spending crests on craft cape, equip my myth shield
and hope I get the rings from Nexus
Are we OP yet?

I'm fully mythed on the priest other than neck, so im torn between taking Salhadaar neck from vault or taking socket and crafting a neck
we always were
Hmmmge

Based
almost samesy!
I just need the cantrip rings
then Im the BiS list
I managed the cantrip rings so im j chillin
My pocket spriest is getting myth of the dawn this week so I’m just getting carried anyway rn
i should be able to hit myth of dawn on my priest now
im trying to game it a bit to be able to squeeze out big uppies but
math
P sure I’m still a few weeks off but I’m dumb so idk
It’ll happen when it happens
I had absolutely silly luck lately so I’m chilling. I got Myth Gaze & Myth heart in the same week like two weeks ago
There we go.
Hi.
I need sockets
I can’t wait to get home and still be incapable of living more than 3 stacks of the bleed in Skyreach at +17
Nice chest
I think I’m gonna do a socket
Because rolling in nexus sounds miserable
especially since the 12.0.7 patch will probably break the ring set
How would it break the ring set?
why will it break ring set,? some new ring?
Oh i guess maybe if the Rotmire ring is better
I feel like getting a good Sporecaller's Blooming Loop is going to be a nightmare though, since the stats are random
Pash, I unfucked my UI 
within the new raid and updated item levels from it, the m+ gear will also be updated, right?
niceeeee
wdym
The updated item levels for trinkets/weapons is an external item you get and apply to the item
The drops themselves arent changing
slick, good stuff
is the shield upgradable?
I mean when Sporefall will be released -- will it only have 298 item level for just trinkets and weapons as well?
Oh, all the sporefall items are 298 on ptr. Subject to change though
for example I do not raid, only m+, if there other 298 gear, it must be then somehow replicated in m+ I guess
As far as we know, no it's not
No. There are currently no other sources of 298 gear in the works
thats not coming out for another month at least no?
The sporefall raid will likely be super puggable at all difficulties
pugs will still find a way to make it difficult, dw
Oh undoubtedly
12.0.7 so yeah, probably
Gaze came home, with leach 🙏
giga
oof
they should add an item off the socket vendor to let you add other terts to your gear
Would be dope
Any math/overall analysis available for the latest pwar tuning (fttf talent, ip buff, phalynx buff)?
There is no math needed.
Nothing changes
You are slightly tankier.
You're welcome.
i got hero track haste vers one from seat got this crit vers mythic in vault, that 2 set avoidance any good? cause i also got that nexus ring in the vault too mythic track wondering if that 2 set beats the avoidance 2 set
Hmm I guess that is good. Use ftff on AA, MC, MT, and NPX dungeons now instead of the armor one?
thats the question i have
Not gonna lie I highly question whether fttf is worth on Mc especially since the hardest things (at least for me) is pull 1 with the berserkers, next pull with the elephant, and last boss when he slams and knocks you
i wish it was magic and damage over time effects
10 minutes of being declined for every +17 group i applied to (I have all 16s timed)... that's new
If ur not bear or monk.. are you really a tank?
Oh hurray, we got the new fun upgrade thing. Hope you're excited to farm catalyst charges again to get youe upgrade though!
well i picked the seat ring, hope this avoidance buff is decent
Brother I am not as hyped for that as I am for the BOOK that's coming
I loved the priory tome trinket too because I love books

Id love the book even more if they gave me Siren Isle 2.0 and made all the pages random drops so you just never know what you'll get!!
What's the deal with the new hammer thing?
whats the order priority on the upgrades on the hamme thingy?
Did prot become the best tank by brew and bear both getting the nurf hammer?
Shield
Did brew get nerfed again?
someone at pally discord about changes rn :v
:(
Stop coping brew and bear still top
Pash u know as well as me the druid nerf was like 4% at worse
So its still massively ahead

im so confused how this works relating to alts i dont see this weeks questline on my alt
i think once you turn it on on your main its just unlocked
I see
unfair you can use the bearmotes in here

Agree that bear and brew are best now. Bear nerfed about 12% and they were doing like 30% more than next highest (brew). Bear moved from strongest m+ tank of all time to.. Just regular s tier tank
you're all delusional, according to this site, bear is D
(someone posted this on another place to argue bear was in a bad spot :v)
100%
ok pissed on myself now what
no other tank even has the same Shield Block uptime as us
Have you seen the ignore pain values of the other tank classes? Laughable in comparison
Un luck i guess 

first one to loot 5 void shards gets @lusty grotto’s mom
damn i didnt know nimchips mom was chill like that
now be brown

so whats the new prot build after the buffs ?
same build as before
Did the buff today help?
2h sword build
there is no new build in ba sing se
no change, just survival boost
sure
we are slightly tankier then we were last reset
just a smidge
about this much | |
The 298 upgrade is 1x per account?
i'm hearing its RNG
after the first, haven't gotten it myself yet but that's what i'm hearing
Apparently itll unlock on alts once you complete it on your main, but that’s just me repeating someone else so take that how you will
I will wait for others to be the gineau pigs
Pwar ehrps % change for keys after tuning?
if you need meaningless stats in order to life your life you're gonna have to become a mathematician yourself
Is the eternal egg worth using? It does 6% healing in keys and I think it helps with keeping me alive… I only have the heroic one
I don’t see it mentioned in any guide for better or worse
Its kinda dog. Random defensive procs tend to be meaningless overall to survival
And you'll likely never see the haste from it
bruh LMFAO
No its terrible
What race do you guys think has the best sound affects & screams when playing prot
male goblin is pretty good
I quite enjoy Mag’Har orc
vulpera for all warrior related questions
also fair
I'm playing a female drac and in dragon form it sounds basically the same as male drac lol
but im also always in visage so
i play with sound and ingame music on
I wish taurens had a travel form like worgens
and now anytime i hear the music from the Nexus King fight in mfo i have a trauma reaction
same, i dont get people who just blast music over everything and then complain they miss important cues
i didnt know drac had voice lines in dragon form, wtf do they even do
In game music is diabolical
Roar mostly.
they go raaawr
some of the in game music slaps
Although this is one of the few games I do have actual game sound on
Sometimes in eversong the new version of the eversong theme starts playing and i get SHIVERS
priory without in game music is unimaginable to me
yeah that music playing as you get to p2 of the final boss was sick
I don’t even know what it sounds like
In my headcanon, Priory sounds mostly like grunge (I was on a big kick at that time)
i just macro Meerah's Jukebox to my abilities so it drops it on cooldown
DOLLY AND DOT ARE MY BEST FRIENDS
this is a bad idea for Effective Dolly & Dot Uptime (EDDT) and we as a community do not recommend it
study your rotation to optimize
Yeah but what if I dont care about EDDT? I'm already spending so much time tracking NP (Nightfae Panflute)
i mean yeah if you wanna be a freaking casual, you do you

i unironically macro'd the nightfae flute into kill command when i was playing my hunter
so every 10 seconds i got to hear some nice lil fluting :3
that's hype
the only correct combo is avatar+sparkle wings
i had a WA that played Gas Gas Gas whenever I got PI
i wish i could change outfits in combat so when i hit avatar i change into the Vault of the Incarnates mog and be a rock monster
remember what they took from us...

My priest sims are saying take socket for ST and Salhadaar neck for AoE

i think if i take neck that alone could get me over the 285 threshold
is anyone else simming a crafted 295 vs non crafted 298 weapon? im coming up with 600 dps more cause of embelly? over 4 ilvls not sure if thats right
If you're simming, you need to make sure to add an embel to another slot
yeah like shield for arcano caus eiu cant do sigil on shield right
If you're simming having an embel vs having no embel, ofc embel is going to win
but moving the embel to something like cloak/wrists and getting a myth weapon is going to be more dps than having an embel weapon
yea, you cant do hunt on shield
Because in practice you're not giving up embel for nothing, you're just moving it around
And yes hunt is only for weapons
We sending out first 298 hammer on shield or weapon?
i play with cocomelon in the background
me pwarr
how do you have all these images just on hand
I'm quick on the draw
Not hard to Google an image save it and send it here
google+canva
Is there a way to see what rotation a sim is using?
ok thank u professor
Lmao no problem 😂
You can typically find the apls on github, or you can run a sim under the quick sim tab and see what its doing there
Im guessing we do shield to 298 since its our most important slot?
Shield will most likely be the ideal first upgrade for most people yeah
and what if you are my most important slot? 
I should be hitting revenge more than IP?
Hot 😊 😚
I think you end up hitting IP more often then Revenge
since its a off the GCD rage dump
and its more important to spend globals on things like SS and Thunderclap which are rage generators
Word
if you arent going to cap on rage and have no generators up, you should be revenging
Why would I spend when I won’t cap
Because spending is the entire backbone of the spec
Procs resets on shield slam
fuels anger managment
And if you dont have SS or TC ready to hit, you need to hit something
More rage spent = more avatars and shield walls
I'm 1 item away from shield with dungeon voidcores but dang, tough choice
= more defensive and offensive value
are haranir racials good for pwarr? im thinking of rerolling haranir, kultiran or peak boring human (because of stun removal only kek)
but probably will go for looks and haranir kinda fire with plate mogs
^ basically this
The racial root burst thing is neat for ranged pulling ig
I'm a human playing another human, desguised as another human
Dwarf is the best Prot War race
Dwarf > Dark Iron > Everything Else more or less
though human is also quite strong; the stun break is quite strong and the 2% more stats is very good
I only chose human because when I came back I was under the impression the human racial was still a free pvp trinket but just kinda rolled with it
sometimes when im bored i run racial sims just to see
the robot says my priest should be a panda
Im currently human on my war cause I prefer the TMOG options on human models slightly more then dwarf
yeah - I thought about rolling dwarf, but so far 17s & 18s the tankbuster bleeds are barely noticable & I got the solar core igniter trinket rn
but if I ever decide to push high M+ again on my Prot War, its a insta swap to dwarf
from my understanding, the only dungeon that really requires us to be dwarf would be AA
otherwise, its fine
I'd imagine 19s the bleeds would be more unforgiving
I love being a mag'har priest but im seriously thinking of going goblin/drac just for the mobility
AA 17 & 18 just 2 pack pulling to 40% and letting the the 3rd kinda come to you on its own the trick (if you're a scrub like me)
Alliance stinky
If i wanted to dpsmax i would swap to panda or orc
How many more buffs until pwar dps is at least within 20% of bear post nerf?
5.2
i did aa 16 with my pally the other day, perfect pull
healer still hated me (close friend) and now refuses to go with my if im on my ppally because of how much my health danced :v, about 5 times more than my dk
joke to them saying get guud
am I reading this right? Another round of 3 dungeons or raid bosses, then we get a shard of which we need 5 in total?
The first part I expected but the second seems a bit whack surely
Maybe soul ash wasn’t so bad
once you do the last round of 3, shards start dropping in all forms of content basically
and dont seem to be capped, people in spriest discord already have gotten like 8 shards
@undone beacon
bear nerfs
Ur only 10% better than every other non brew tank
i came to check on u
How r u holding up…
Yeah because dot extension is tied to ghosts and not voidform so its super chill to keep things rolling
Wtf they tied it to ghosts now
Thats actually so based

enjoy shadow priesting
Just steer clear of WCP shadow off-topic unless you want to be mindblasted irl

While i have you captive do you know what 20 across is
Its not cheating unless you google
Back in the day you would do the crossword with an encyclopedia next to you
Asking a friend is fair game imo
Brief
I am going to eat dorito and watch simpsons in a minute cause i am bored
I've been on the Bob's Burgers grindset
I thought this was portal room momentarily when I saw them
Im big on the bobs burgers pill
im waiting for new episodes
i consider teddy my spirit animal perchance
whats 10 and 11 down

Oh shit khailby is back
I think 10 and 11 down are crosswordese
but im not certain
Im not even gonna attempt a Question-based hint this early
question hints are always trick answers or joke answers
happy time, did my first 18 ever 🙂
🎉
Glories
Sorry, how many letters?
7
So glories could work
But if its not nolan ryan then my baseball knowledge fails me
I think your down word is wrong.
Glories is the quote. Its from St. Augistine's City of God.
i believe that
what is the baseball hint then?
No problem. Gotta put my masters of philosophy to work somehow.
thats also cheating lol
Thats how people did it back then
the only place where it is considered cheating is at the competitions
god how lame
But thats because all of those ones are hand picked to mostly use crosswordese
And not pop trivia
crosswords are to be done with your own head only
Such as an obscure musician from the 1700s
Can I just walk over and do ritual site tier 1 or is it gated by some kind of unlock quest line?
i may be kinda old, but i've never seen that on any city i lived lol, using encyclopedias was considered cheating
should be able to just roll up
Bet
Finally a reason tondo ritual sites
Id like to see anyone solve “Danish Culture’s Cozy Conviviality” without a seed word or an encyclopedia
Inb4 it gets hotfixed
Who isnt danish, anyway
What, the myth crests from the new highest tier?
Farming stuff for the hammer
it's also a good field test to see if you suck with your alt
if you lose in a ritual site you shouldn't go into a key
go away
It always was
It was goofy to not take apex
To reiterate on crossword conversation
I believe in tournaments after an elapsed period of time
They do open up access to encyclopedias and / or restricted search engines
Nah
🤓
If you dont know you dont know
Rules bad
Probably
i keep a little guy in the shirt pocket and he gives me answers if i feed him snacks
thats the real tech
those who know
i keep one of this close by
inc nerf
im at work, then college and after that i have raid 
but yeh, probably gonna do delves to get the rest
Sound like zulaman ritual site with 3 people going opposite directions is the fastest
oh but
that voidcore stuff means we can achieve 285 much quicker
which helps alt gearing a lot
Can we do shields?
idk, i'm an eu pleb
When are we getting Halls of Valor in M+ rotation?
Since titan flavour and order returns back on track
can we do the nilhammer quest in rituals too or do we gotta like, lfr/delve
i mean it takes like 2 minutes at tier 1 anyway
u have to kill like 5 mobs total
Not sure about the hammer 2bh
Crafted gear goes to 295 right?
Can we do shields
What a horrible thing to say
i believe so
Thanks wowhead for nerfing Everything
The trick is to not post about it on Reddit since that’s where wowhead steals all their news from
Unfortunately every weapon sims lower than my crafted one
Are you accounting for moving the embel
r u adding an emblishments so another piece
Or just comparing a set with an embel to a set without
I was not whoops

Any pins about whether we should upgrade shield, wep or gaze/heart first ?
Ty
But what if I really really wanna upgrade gaze first
thats a you thing
There a weekly cap on the voidcores?

Sick thanks for the approval
just be lucky
Yeah man farm ritual sites
Hope so
how long take 5 of these thingies
Depends on your luck and how high the drop chance is
wat ddrop rate
they like cata charges
i see
Do they drop from Delves lv 1
i mean thats for everything u ither get it or u dont
yes, true
:nodders:
does anyone know, if I haven't complete any single pit this week, will I get any anytimes from this dung in vault?
you can
Loot table from M+ is the whole pool of M+ items, all dungs.
yup
thank you
Ascendant upgrades are NOT time-gated
︀︀
︀︀- 5 shards to upgrade one item (2h included)
︀︀- No cap on shard acquisition
︀︀
︀︀Sources for shards:
︀︀- Raid Bosses: ~1/3 chance estimate
︀︀- Ritual Sites: ~1/5 chance estimate
︀︀- Bountiful Delves with key
︀︀- Weekly Nightmare Preys
︀︀- M+ any level
oh ok
is weapon > shield for voidcore?
if I have 80 rage, and have active free proc on ss and I do not need ip, should I still ss+ip or rather delay using ss for 1 gcd of revenge?
Send the IP
off gcd is quicker rage consumption than a gcd
thank you
think im gonna 298 sword and board and go double arcano. not sure if thats play though since i hjave to dismiss sigil
yep thats the play
Don't call me Shirley

okay this upgrade thing sucks
why
its uncapped, but the drop rate outside of raid is abysmal
so if i need 20 of these things, im stuck doing 100s of rituals or keys for crests i dont need
did lfr and normal, i have 7 total
still cringe that blizzard trys to force you to raid
they will prob buff m+ rate
thank you NA turbo boost live testers again, you're the real champs so EU can have fun 🙏 🙏 🙏
including the 10 rituals ive done

That gif will never get old

no problem; I know you guys rely on NA to figure stuff out. Like without Liquid, Echo wouldn't have figured out the last boss

0/10 ragebait
alright finally able to do some rituals lets see if anything comes of it
are voidcores timegated?
I dont care about those guys. I care that you guys beta test live each reset, so we can enjoy the rest of the week. Same as it was with first voidcore rolls duplicates 🙏
lmk; I get home from work soonish and gotta slam stuff for some voidcore thingys
apparently no; you can grind em out
a full lfr blitz netted me 3 shards so
its ez rn cuz all the big dicks are in there getting their shards
bosses die in under a minute
so what's the vibe on first upgrade, are people doing weapon or shield first
prob Shield->Wep->Trinket->Trinket
but whats prob gonna happen is before doing any serious content, gonna grind out all 4
any info on how many items we can put 298 this week? and if it work on shields?
so doesnt even matter what I do first
Works on shields, and its grindable
what level the hero item goes to?
276+9 = 285
wont most people be unsubbed by then?
No no, the new borrowed power book will be out and you’ll want to resub for that because it’ll be really fun
Book?
but not a piece of gear

for the .7 patch
We’re cooked chat
Do people fr pull this dungeon like this?
The Omnium Folio
I’m so washed
No need to change a route that works tho
Just keep doing what youre doing
I worded that wrong
Yeah I don’t think I’m gonna try this one; just got shared to me and 
Ya i dont agree with trying a new route linked to you in an io key unless you feel confident
Something to try in resi or something lower
Sorry, I meant my friend said “dude check out this route we just did in a pug”
I definitely think he’s trying to help because I have had a miserable time in Nexus Point lately
Ah ya
Id give it a try, sometimes its nice perspective to fully shake it up like that
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My issue in general has been pulling more than 3 defenders at a time
Do you have Last Stand ?
Negative
wont make a difference
just clear your heal absorbs
stun, walk back
piercing howl, walk back
walk back with SR on
ask for a ring of peace
This is what I have been doing mostly or atleast trying to.
Last Stand works great in 17+
last stand is unneeded
if the healer is huffing paint, you cant do much, they need to be ready for that wing
you can tell which one is ready and which one just shouldn't be healing this key
it is EXTREMELY obvious
If you count on healers yes but if you wanna help yourself this is the way
with enough control of the absorb, a healer can take care of 2-4 stacks easily
if you wanna help yourself you kite
well not kite
but you control it like it was mentioned
Maybe I’m letting it stack too high before I start moving away
well sure
Do prot warriors have any ability to help for the chains in Seat?
you need to turn on private auras
Yeah you can talent Berseker Shout to do so
i'm wondering... maybe now it's time to start grabbing sockets instead of extra rolls?
otherwise how are you gonna handle the heal absorbs, the talons in Skyreach, and the AA pull?
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no, you talent Fearless
hes wrong
True
turn on private auras (with bigwigs/littlewigs or DBM/DBM-dungeons, so these debuffs are nice and visible
Shares the shame choice node was my confusion
I have them on, I think I just in general haven’t started moving early enough
just be careful with moving on that pull, you dont wanna pull the roaming seer
be smart about it
and 100% never perma kite
you back up, you reset, you go back in
otherwise youre gonna be at a huge rage problem
that applies to skyreach and AA
and when i say AA, i mean battle axes, you cant kite lashers - you can only leap out beyond 25yds to reset (and dwarf)
Yeah I’ve gotten the battle axes down well and come to terms with the bleed absolutely shredding me in Skyreach
skyreach is not a bleed
its a fire dot
the only bleed in skyreach is blade rush from blade talons
I don’t play Dwarf so ultimately DoT all look the same to me
the distinction is important
If the healer can’t dispel it I just have to eat it

Is Double Time worth keeping in a raid environment? There's gotta be something more useful I can put that point in, no?
depends on the fight i suppose
Also, is thane still better than colossus? Is it significant which one you go with? Thane is fun but I'd like to try out the other side.
thane is considerably ahead as of last week
Exclude mythic versions of the fights, I'm nowhere near that good.
Gotcha, lightning man it is!
you dont need talent swaps for anything under mythic
I’m sure one season this expansion Colossus will be correct
dont overthink it
Well, I was thinking that I could get rid of double time to bring shockwave to help with interrupts on dragons
After initial charge it's fairly rare I need to use charge again through most of these fights. Just feels like a wasted point sometimes.
how are you gonna help with shockwave
I use it on skyreach on first boss.
people arent supposed to be on top of you
Tell that to my mother

I mean, it's a decent range. If I'm tanking the boss facing the middle all I'd have to do is turn around and fire it off and spin back. Not like I could do a whole lot but it'd be something at least.
seems like youre entirely overthinking something
but
sure go for it
you dont need our permission
I was more just seeing if it's important to keep double time. I couldn't think of any reason why it would be but wanted to ask and see if anyone had a reason for it that I wasn't aware of.
if youre doing last phase swaps
gloom swaps, more specifically
youll probably have leap for those
so 🤷♂️
completely up to you
depends on what you need
Suppose I could give it a go. See if it does anything useful tonight
I mean
Someone can smack my hand for this one
But why not just interrupting shout?
If you’re talking about giving your back to the boss for a GCD of shockwave that feels like it could very easily become disastrous
Pretty sure it’s like an AOE taunt too, so if your in phase 3 of normal/heroic you might taunt the other boss as well
^
It could be, just communicate with your co-tank and let them know if possible
Flat out I have tanked pretty much the entirety of heroic in my m+ spec so what decisions you make in regards to some talents are pretty inconsequential
I wouldn't want to risk the AoE taunt honestly. For most of the fight it wouldn't be an issue just due to distance the bosses stand apart. But the p3 would be rough. Though honestly I guess if people are just on top of what they're doing it wouldn't matter that much anyway. I suppose neither would my original question. Idk, just trynna find more ways to be helpful.
On a related note, why do we ever spec intervene? It legitimately has never come in handy once but it's in the recommended talent build on IV for raid.
Inconsequential
its great for movement
There is no “good” reason to take it other than making sure you have enough points in that portion of the talent tree to continue on & ensure you can gain access to spell reflect & honed reflexes
mouseover intervene to a friendly can help you keep uptime and intervene at the last second
so its just spam T1 ritual sites with no modifiers right?
with friends ideally, apparently
they in the end chest or on corpses?
Get a group, split up and kill the 6 minis, kill the end boss, maybe get a shard from the end chest
Repeat ad nauseum
👍
There’s also a bug where the dragonhawk boss will be unattackable if someone stands on its spawn point before it lands
So don’t do that
may be a hotfix out that makes it not farmable on t1. just reporting. has anyone gotten a shard inthe last 15 minutes from this?
man this is terrible
i did a couple now im tired, fuck it, ill get it when i get it
285 crafted weap and a 289 max out myth weap upgrade to the same 290 ilvl with void right?
no
any one know the best defensive trinket we run outta m+?
or do we just normally run double dps?
you use them if you need it
but the best two are solar core (skyreach) and globule (pit), in that order
im currently running gaze and heart but i have the vault option today for jelly and ampule myth
Crafted goes to 295, max myth goes to 298
gothca thank you.
both of those suck and should be vendored
gotcha
I'm just gonna juice my crafted 2H first so I can be 285 for my alts
I'll juice your crafted 2H
gottem
only gay if he smiles
What's genuinely going to play in my head when The Deep gets slimed out by The Boys in the new episode
which items should we rank up tomorrow?
i feel like this was stealth nerfed with the hotfix today
the ritual farm was prob nerfed yeah
they dont like people speed running
but just a guess
lol
im guaranteed the 2 drops i want from seat this week too lmao
Question on shield charge usage in m+.
I sometimes save using it on CD to align w my avatar. A habit from TWW when we had bug damage with it.
Does that really matter any more? Or do we just send it on CD for the most part?
Sometimes I’m in situations where I have like 20s on avatar CD and shield charge is up. I need to use it to fill Shield Block uptime but am not sure if that’s hurting my dps when it gets out of sync like that. An its better to try and hold out those 20s if I can to sync them.
I always make sure I use it on big pulls.
otherwise I just send it whenever
ideally you do want to send it with cds
if avatar is not up, demo will be or if not very close to
holding it for 20s is losing almost half a cast to get 20% damage
that stacks up to a lot of missed casts
hold a few seconds, sure, but not too long
def dont hold it for long
if u are playing itf, dont hold it at all
u need it for SB uptime
lol cool thanks for the feedback all
Questions like that helps us lurkers too don't be shy to ask
Hey 2 Part Question for all my warrior Brothers and sisters out there ....
- I feel like I am taking more damage is that in my head or is any one else experiencing that? like I did 16'
s last week and it felt fine and now I'm doing 14's and they are ruff and
2 My shield is getting ruined like 54% durability in a key
you shouldn't be taking more damage
nothing changed
the only thing that changed is small defensive buffs
I'm not dying ... but yet my Durability is going nuts
blocking consumes more durability
but it's just my shield getting chipped away hard
what do you think you're taking more damage than?
I understand that but I have done keys last week and I wouldnt die and I would me like 81% which is fine but now 54% in a MC 0 Dying just seems chuffed is all
but if it's me then it's me and you can all Ignore the question
do you have logs
no
because im 99% sure youre just doing something wrong compared to last week
you shouldn't be taking more damage, and durability has not changed
ok That wasn't my question but I appreciate the feedback
i made like 5 rituals, no shard drop --- maybe it's not dropping anymore? they hotfixed it?
🤷♂️
weewoo fun detected
What is your toon name, do you have logs?
can u use the void thing on shield or just weaps?
Yes, you can.
okay thanks
nice! still looking for mine, i got the haste ring this week
best of luck!
Gratz
Thanks voidcores 
should you get the 289 ilvl upgrade? is it worth to use on a crafted or bonus roll a shield before
For lightblinded fight, can you spell reflect anything for damage? a guys showing me this log saying you can and that it doesnt show up on details https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hJ9X4fnN6dPyb1xT?fight=35&type=damage-done&source=23
check the pinned sheet









