protection

[crisp ocean]

these tank tunes gonna make me play all the tanks lol

[fringe mural]

tank valeera clears

even shitty dps

everyone can hit her shade to heal her

[crisp ocean]

are any classes getting nerfed?

[fringe mural]

brew a little?

or was that this week

[crisp ocean]

brew is fine

[fringe mural]

this week was dps warrior buff

Coming Phalanx buff is pretty neat tbh

because it's additive to the 5% it already have

Additive dr is strong

high dr on one ability is better than low on many

if you already killed other bosses it's too late

[undone beacon]

Once you kill a boss, it’s loot table in unlocked for the season

[fringe mural]

If you want to get max gaze chance for example you only kill myth chimaerus and first boss of voidspire

Or bel'oren

but

if you kill the first 3 of voidspire

and chim

You have two shots

at gaze

[tribal wharf]

pwar getting rinsed in mdi

[fringe mural]

and i think the chance to get gaze is higher then

oh no wait it's not

3/4 to 1/4 on 2 vault slots vs 1/2 to 1/2 on 1 slot

seasonal

yes

that's what wowhead says and all the guys here

[opaque oriole]

Do we ever play or gonna play the 6% magic dr talent instead of extra armor?

[naive panther]

patch notes seemed underwhelming for war vs the other tanks

kinda expecting guard nerfs, but playing it right now just feels so easy compared to the rest

[undone beacon]

In dungeons with high magic damage you can swap Armor Spec for it

[pastel summit]

Mash thrash do infinite dmg its funny

[pastel summit]

Yeah, it's good

[lunar flare]

🙁

[harsh trellis]

BOO, so close

how many deaths?

[lunar flare]

something like 4-5? someone died on the final boss but tbh if it all hinges on that then we likely made lots of mistakes along the way

that was the one key i got invited to today, nothing but declines otherwise. tried pushing my +16 pit but the healer dced on the final boss 😄

[harsh trellis]

Its all about guardian druid atm

[lunar flare]

yeah it looks fun to play too, i might try it out as it's a tank i'm not familiar with

but i just cant be bothered to meta slave between multiple classes man

[harsh trellis]

I only have my brew alt

[lunar flare]

i'll gear a druid and by some act of god blood will become meta or something

[harsh trellis]

but I get declined all the time now just in 11s and 12s lol

[hearty sigil]

poor Brews feeling our pain lol

[lunar flare]

thats mad lol

literally this

[hearty sigil]

I have a 90 druid, 214 ilvl. time to sign up for some 10s!

[harsh trellis]

12s

skip the affix

[hearty sigil]

LOL very true

[lunar flare]

brother you're a druid, ilvl is irrelevent, straight to 19s

also in other news, does anyone know whether that guy who really loves doom still posts here

cant remember his name

i just remember he didnt even play WoW, but posted here sometimes and really enjoyed doom

it was like, his defining characteristic

[harsh trellis]

Yeah scroll up hes talkin about retro games - yogi

[lunar flare]

oh thats him!!

i love you yogi

[spice iron]

Any specific tech for mythic Alleria as the lonely tank? Started prog just now

[hidden sinew]

Got my bear to 265 ilvl this weekend and it’s tankier than two tanks I have 280+

[fringe venture]

Im doing my own war to that by pushing my own key and insta deny absolutely all druids and brews monks, im so annoyed of being declined even for 12s. Will start doing free pushing groups on 10-12 for all those nonmeta players and decline absolutely every druid and monk and dh🤣

[limpid orbit]

Anyone play on controller? Wondering about keybinds - what would be your 4 main pressed rotational abilities?

Shield Slam - Thunder clap - revenge - IP?

[lusty grotto]

you need to maintain SB

but outside of that, sure those four are right as far as CPM goes

just keep in mind this is how we use IP: #protection message

most of us dont play with controllers, but the gameplay should remain the same

[sweet egret]

why not just play with a whistle? or maybe a trumpet?

[harsh trellis]

how does it connect to the pc

[sweet egret]

how should I know, I use keyboard and mouse

[harsh trellis]

those are able to connect to a pc

whistles and trumpets though?

[sweet egret]

https://youtu.be/kPMTDFThwq8?si=-vUQafu4mD7Qg_4D

[lusty grotto]

no idea what this has to do with the question

[pastel summit]

[sweet egret]

it's just a very cool, very different way to play games

[sharp gale]

I wouldn’t say cool

A stick in your mouth

[lusty grotto]

it is cool that disabled gamers can play as they could, whats not cool is going from A to B with the intent of controller shaming

[sharp gale]

Oh yeah it’s cool they can play but I don’t really softened myself on how, hopefully one day mental things etc

Or hopefully one day we know how to cure them

[unkempt pebble]

[sweet egret]

I use the "TargetedSpells" addon from curseforge to let me know when a spell is targeting me

[opal ledge]

timed my first 17! nice, i'm a gamer now

[stiff inlet]

congrats!

[opal ledge]

is there a way to check the io for 1% rn?

[stiff inlet]

raider.io has it i think

[pastel summit]

ye raiderio has the cutoffs

think its around 3600

[opal ledge]

where is it located in raider io?

[pastel summit]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus/cutoffs/season-mn-1/us

[opal ledge]

ty

[abstract arch]

you guys grab the frist 3 packs in seat right?

[fringe venture]

Grats on It, I also did today, still missing 3x the resi 16 and 14io for 3400 mount, but Im Happy for the 17. Almost timed a 18 but dps decided to dont avoid breath on last pull NPX.
What I feel is that I wont be able to time a 16 AA, It IS being my nemessis DG

[fringe venture]

Didnt use to do but starting to do It, slow but doing, cant charge on them so I slow bodypull and mass taunt

On 16-17 need to do It to time the BLs properly

[opal ledge]

idk i feel maybe i should start playing colossus... i made a pit 14 to test it and my parse was 97, i made 20% more dmg than my 17 thane key --- maybe a skill issue too, but i'm feeling colossus is a bit stronger now, not sure

[harsh trellis]

I just did a 16 AA clockwise starting with Vex, what a chill run that was

[glacial ridge]

how did the lust timings work out on that?

[harsh trellis]

Vex, bird, and last boss

[bleak breach]

I feel colossus does better damage for me when I can guarantee I have 3+ targets and can sit and do rotation.

If I’m running round doing other things Thane takes over

[glacial ridge]

Hmm did you jump to Overgrown trash and double back to Crawth? Been thinking about switching it up for a run

[bleak breach]

I.e pre execute and Thunderblast buff I would play colossus up until Saladhaar and dragons

[harsh trellis]

I just go in an exact reverse order my pulls didnt change at all

[bleak breach]

M+ didn’t matter too much as I could negotiate how many adds I have. I honestly feel like I felt tankier as colossus though

Did a 15 Seat yesterday and felt like I was fighting for my life. Was a pug though so maybe healer and stops weren’t as good as my normal group.

[harsh trellis]

cool

I feel more comfortable as thane in M+ over colossus

[bleak breach]

What is it in that first room of Seat that hurts so much? I didn’t die but they were wrecking me

[harsh trellis]

Seat is open

you pull 2 sets of chains?

[bleak breach]

Hmm maybe, I did the triple pull at the start so guessing that was it

[glacial ridge]

triple pull up left? Should only be one chain the way I do it..

If its that then its usually copping back shots while gathering, and the Champions charge you

[bleak breach]

Ahh probably bleeds unless I grabbed pull 4 with pull 1

[tribal wharf]

lust the first pull there is my advice

[bleak breach]

Yeah we did

[tribal wharf]

and dont move (whole team)

[bleak breach]

I’m guessing I grabbed double chains for it to feel so nasty

Didn’t help the pug I was in was triple melee, made the later stages of the dungeon a bit rough

[glacial ridge]

Yeah pugging I never double chain

[tribal wharf]

shame the sleeper pc cases i wanted are now on sale and still expensive

type of pc case with some yellowing and dust, cobwebs, NO THIEF would ever think to take it

they'd think its junk, especially if i had crt monitor with it (which objectively looks better for games around 2000/before that)

[opal ledge]

u can grab fearless to help with a chain on urself

[tribal wharf]

unless its magisters terrace cuz obviously you do it on pull 2 there

i am firm believer, in every dungeon first pull is bigger than average pull always and lust it and nuke the hell out of it

blender mode, willl it blend, that is the question

get it all in a big pile

[harsh trellis]

check out the corsair fractal knockoff

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011340-ww/frame-4000d-wood-rs-modular-mid-tower-pc-case-black-walnut-cc-9011340-ww

I use the North XL. I love that case

[harsh trellis]

To answer your question, the charges from the guys next to the chains

so if you go and pull 1 set of chains and then charge to the next chain, that first pack is gonna double charge and kill you

[tribal wharf]

some truly retro boomer pcs

like 80s or 90s looking

[harsh trellis]

you want some old school cases

[tribal wharf]

i hear the one on left is pain to build inside of, i want them both TBH

[harsh trellis]

I miss my old gateway case

[tribal wharf]

these, are amazing for that type of thing cuz it allows for MATX and ATX L and R

you could build new am5/ whatever intel is at

um, alot of the OLD old stuff, the authentic stuff

just simply doesnt exist any more

or its not compatible

https://www.landsnail.com/apple/local/design/images/computers/cpet.jpg example of such a pc i would want

[harsh trellis]

I just cant deal with the clutter

[tribal wharf]

but it is exceedingly rare to my knowledge and thus expensive, and its heavy, so it would be ordeal to transport properly

[brave mauve]

You're clearly not a thief. If you saw a pc like that while breaking in, you could safely bet it's filled to bursting with their personal info without any kind of password protection.

[tribal wharf]

ehhh you gunna seal 1 pic up, or

like, geeee

i wonder

[harsh trellis]

More money in the video cards I think in those

And memory

[tribal wharf]

aint nobody gunna try steal the 1980s lookin pc weighs 50 pounds bunch of wires

when there is laptop

the 2000 iq move is have old shitty laptop that doesnt work

and then they take that and it doesnt work,

[bleak breach]

Ahh thanks, I reckon that’s what I did then.

[humble mason]

In my experience, colossus is great, you get more passive stats and a bit more burst, the problem is you will eventually run into a situation where you NEED shield wall, and you won’t have it, then die and brick the key, for no other reason than that you are playing colossus over MK.

That happened to me consistently when I was trying it out, even with 40% haste. You just don’t get as much CDR as with MK

[limpid orbit]

Is prot simple ?

[lusty grotto]

compared to what

[limpid orbit]

In general? Idk

[lusty grotto]

simple is subjective

[limpid orbit]

Let’s say amongst tanks

[lusty grotto]

most of us can tell you it seems relatively simple

[limpid orbit]

High apm tho right

[lusty grotto]

sure

[opal ledge]

it's high apm and has a lot of button to the bars... its easier than bdk and prot paladin imo... but harder than bear... maybe equal to monk

idk how to compare to cdh

[limpid orbit]

TY

[bleak breach]

Prot is simple but very unforgiving if you make mistakes

Can be a bit of a tough learning curve as you go from taking 0 damage in certain levels of content to dead from getting not much wrong at all certain point.

[opal ledge]

idk i feel bdk is very unforgiving, prot life doesnt spike that much, u can even make somes mistakes sometimes, or just have a slower reaction

[bleak breach]

BDK is supposed to spike, the yo-yo of your health bar is normal for BDK

[limpid orbit]

Warr fantasy fun

[opal ledge]

still harder to play... you miss a global and you die.... that's not happening often with war.

[opal ledge]

what MK means?

why do mountain thane get more shield wall?

[willow mortar]

-# mega knight

[orchid mural]

Oh, the other day i was saying that Storm Bolt can stun leech veil.

It can, if you are NOT specced into the aoe storm bolt.

I like the intervene // lower cd on stormbolt option. finally ran a NPX with the multiple bolt talent and it does not work on leech veil.

[lusty grotto]

it can as aoe bolt too

[undone beacon]

^

Tested it myself

[lyric moth]

On Windrunner last boss as a tank does it matter much if I clean my dot?

Outside of when dodging the stun wave I mean

[arctic hearth]

having gotten to that boss on 19's you dont notice the dot

i cant say anything for above that

[timber night]

is there a way to track ignore pain's actual value

[bleak breach]

Probably but don’t need too

Just keep it up as much as possible

[timber night]

kk ty

[lusty grotto]

no

you can only track its percent

[ivory barn]

Nim... Im sorry for giving you shit

[harsh trellis]

dx11 or dx12?

[ivory barn]

dx12

[lusty grotto]

why are you giving me shit

[ivory barn]

Standing in a Nexus Point, but no less they unfucked a lot of shi

I reinstalled it to see

[harsh trellis]

what are you using for nameplates?

[ivory barn]

Platynator

[harsh trellis]

the party names are platynator?

[ivory barn]

oh thats still Elv

[lusty grotto]

i have 180 fps in nexus point

idk why you would think you were giving me shit

that being said, i still need to reinstall the game

but my raid issues were addon related

they've been solved for a while

[autumn heron]

Is it just me or do those wyrms in academy hit unrealistically hard for no reason

After second boss

[undone beacon]

they hit hard and live forever

[pastel summit]

i feel like they hurt but the axes hurt considerably more

[chilly brook]

proggers champ

[true idol]

boy unless youre demolishing with a shield on i aint tryin to see that

[chilly brook]

I mean you can do that 😛

[true idol]

jk gj showing those dresses whats up

[sullen palm]

@lusty grotto check you dm bruzzi

[bleak breach]

Nice, we should kill it tonight. Our last pull lastnight was 4%

[sharp gale]

G G

[undone beacon]

Nim doesnt do dms typically

[opal ledge]

tracking IP is quite useless... but if you want to do it just for fun, you can make a bar that shows it's value, but its tied to it's max value (30% of your max hp)

the blue bar over there, is has the % and the reaming buff time.

one thing you could do is make the bar the size of 30% of your hp and place it up close to your hp bar, so visually it would have a size proportional to your health bar (if you anchor on the right it will probably look better)

[chilly brook]

good luck king I believe

[sullen palm]

Can i get some advice on this log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/k1Rx9dJWwmF7TKcr?type=damage-taken&fight=2&by=ability&source=2&options=2

My sb is low as fuck but I didn’t drop

[opal ledge]

it's not, it's 95% uptime

[opal ledge]

you had 95% uptime, and some of the downtime was a part of the dungeon that nothing was happening...
you had SB on 1704 hits, you took only 7 hits without it... it's 99.5% effective uptime

you took around 300 back hits tho... that's the unbloked hit

[sullen palm]

Thank you

What’s the 80 percent blocked on melles

[heavy sparrow]

Does not tracking IP still count if your health bar + shield is on your health bar with platynator or Arcui?

[opal ledge]

you blocked 80% of the hits.
hit you take from behind are not blocked even with shield block up.

you are taking hits on the back, that's the issue, not SB uptime.

[opal ledge]

sorry i dont understand what you mean

[coarse bay]

I dont think ip should show as a health absorb on health bars

[opal ledge]

oh... i got it now
yeah i don't think it shows as an aborb, maybe cuz it's conditional absorb that don't take all the dmg, just a part of it

[coarse bay]

I use that setting on everything and it doesnt show

[ivory barn]

I'm gonna go learn arms to pvp

[humble mason]

Mountain King, which is what mountain thane should be named but eh

[opal ledge]

why does MT/MK got more shield wall?

[humble mason]

You get more rage and you go through rage much faster than colossus

Colossus is much slower with more passive DR and damage, but that passive DR does not make up for how slow it is

You WILL run out of cooldowns and when you do, you are dead in the water and have to slow the key down severely

[opal ledge]

idk i think they get the same rage

i also just compared 2 logs and the rage on both was pretty close

pit 15 - MT got 17172, colossus 16541

[humble mason]

Colossus is fine on 15s, but I couldn’t make it work on 17s or above

[opal ledge]

idk i'm making 16-17's and i feel the same

the rage regen is kinda the same tho

demolish give u haste that boost ur rage generation

[carmine frigate]

Went from 0/9 mythic last week to this trialing with a new guild. Am pumped

Prot warrior claps

[humble mason]

It’s a ton of fun for sure

[opal ledge]

what ring enchants are u guys using?

i'm considering moving to eye of the eagle

[tame jasper]

Gratz.

I had my first evening at dragons mythic and I still have no clue how I should shoot glooms pixel perfect while the only thing I see on my screen are these huge dragons right in my face 🙁

[coarse bay]

Haste

[carmine frigate]

It’s a pain lol. They should be setting markers I imagine. You just gotta zoom far out and find it. Pre place it like 5 seconds before cast so you have time. Don’t wait for gloom to start casting before trying to find it.

[opal ledge]

i'm playing heart of wind... to help with SB uptime, but i think with colossus haste bonus, i can drop it for solarflare + heart of hunger -- and get 2 eye of eagle enchants

[tame jasper]

I know where the markers are and can aim pre at them for the 3td. But the first one which goes legt through the other dragon. I only see dragon (and I always play with max camera distance and turning camera for this. But turning camera there results from having one dragon in my face to havecthe other dragon in my face not seeing whats behind him). But I guess I‘‘m just too bad for mythic

[arctic hearth]

indeed, its very fun imo, I wish my guild had a shaman for our vorasius kill, id probably have a 99 lmao

still progging dragons sadly enough tho

[carmine frigate]

Those are huge

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-dick-big-large-size-gif-16111579

[arctic hearth]

wtb shaman

[arctic hearth]

Did you go ham on the bugs at all? jw

[carmine frigate]

I also took ezzo on pull and had to aim first one. So I know what you’re saying lol. I had to turn my back to ezzo and find the marker. Just make sure to pop a defensive if you give him your back.

Can also use the mini map I’m sure

[carmine frigate]

For 2nd boss? Mostly single target. I did when it was my turn and I had a bug. Then I’d make sure to cleave them

For first boss I got screwed by never taking the adds. Brewmaster had all the adds. I cleaved what I could but mine was mostly single target there too

[fringe mural]

I think it's always hard to compare those numbers when not taking ilvl into account

For example everyone who has mythic gaze deals a shitload more dps than people who don't

idk they should maybe sim the characters and use that as a parse weight

[carmine frigate]

I can’t wait till I get a mythic gaze lol. Already hitting 99s without it

[tame jasper]

Mythic gaze is no guarantee for legendary logs, I promise you

[carmine frigate]

I’ve been stance dancing a lot more myself as well. Only using defensive stance when needed. Staying in battle as much as possible

[fringe mural]

i didn't say that, but i think you should still be compared to your potential

[lofty glen]

i give up logging dps in mythic.... my guild needs like enrage everytime to clear a boss and on vorasius as an example the most are 2-3 min faster :/

[fringe mural]

yeah well and then there's that

But as long as you kill him

[lofty glen]

our dps are not able to interupt adds in Fallen-King, so i jump out after our 2nd tank got the boss and i clear 3 fucking interupts.....

[fringe mural]

i don't even raid anymore, but it would be pretty easy to just use the same sim for every spec that uploads a log and then use that as a comparative weight for their dps

like divide your actual dps in that fight through your sim dps and that's how much worth your dps is

and then rank people by that metric

that would show you who plays better like it's supposed to show you (and people for example use it to apply for raids etc)

even the key parse from archon is skewed because it is just the parse for your respective key, not for your potential

for raid leads that would be really helpful to see which of their dps are just compensating lack of skill with gear

for tanks it's more complicated of course

[opal ledge]

we will have so many good trinkets next season

[lofty glen]

?

[opal ledge]

the trinkets from the dungeons that are not in the rotation, i like them

[lofty glen]

ah okay i understand. but which ones?

which trinkeds*

[vital stirrup]

There is the tank one from nalorakk

[low mango]

I know everyone runs Into the Fray, how much better is it that Heavy Repercussions?

[vital stirrup]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=250244/permafrost-essence

[fringe venture]

I am interested on this, bc AA IS being rly a pain for me and the most wiped I have are around vexamus and the drakes pulls.
So u get to vexamus by normal pulling and BL the Boss on pull, then BL is Up for fir phase of bird, right? Chill pulling on Tree Boss room 66/33 with no BL and BL last? By this route, you dont avoid any of the Drake pulls no? I use to Skip the first one when coming from bird.

[lilac olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=250243/manahearts-binding-flame murder row trinket is also interesting

[slender bison]

Worse than Solarcore Igniter tbh. Which is vendor tier this season

Best ones will be str/haste/crit stackers. Especially since prot warr is strong in S2+ due to stats scaling

[slender bison]

#protection message

[low mango]

Thank you!
Also genuine question. How tf are people getting above 1000 in ANY stat this season?
I haste stack like wild and am struggling to get near 800. (266 ilvl, but still)

[opaque oriole]

Any rule of thumb, which Dungeons are high magic and which are high phys?

[opaque oriole]

Ring and necks certainly help, sockets, ring enchant
Then playing 100 keys until you can swap loot around till you got your wanted stats

[low mango]

😔 mkaaaay

[autumn pawn]

Anyone tried where tracked buffs, IP, Shield wall etc is showing all the time in CDM? I use Bettercooldownmanager as an addon but still happens without it, this happened yesterday and thought it was a bug, but is still happening today

Okay for anyone seeing this in the future, i went into Edit mode and clicked "Hide when inactive", dunno why that setting was changed

[winged zenith]

How we feeling about buff still B tier?

Or is it A- now

[blazing river]

Imo we are worse than before since our dmg sucks compared to the other tanks they buffed

[glacial ridge]

FttF buff when most people dont bother taking it :/

[zinc garnet]

I solved this by lining up with the first marker before pull, you can walk very close to them without aggroing

[naive ravine]

Skill issue

[glacial ridge]

? Just saying with the latest Prot buff, one of the changes was a buff to Fight Through The Flame, but most ppl dont take it, and its not in the standard recommended build.

[hearty rain]

this is my take as well

[winged zenith]

So we still rerolling to arms or fury

[naive ravine]

Yeah if u cant bother to change a talent that is defenetly a skill issue then

[naive ravine]

Shut yo bih as up man

Fuking doomer

[winged zenith]

Lol chill man I am just saying whatever option we have as a warrior

I am not saying we reroll to brew or guardian lol

[glacial ridge]

Prot Warrior is still fine if you want to tank

You're not gonna get damage numbers like bear

[winged zenith]

I am talking about title range tanking as pugs

I am already 18 resi as prot

But 19+ is just impossible as prot to get even 1 invite

[glacial ridge]

Pugs is always going to be meta hungry, if you're not playing the rated best, expect to get less invites. Now with G Druid, ppl will look more towards Arms Warrior to fill the phys comp side

[winged zenith]

Yes that why I said we rerolling to arms or fury

[fringe venture]

An you can feel Lucky that y get invited to 18s. Im being denied on 14s, having 3.4k io☺️
Even denied on some weeklys 12 lol

[winged zenith]

IDK what is problem with Seep

[fringe venture]

Maybe he didnt have a coffee yet, or had too many 🤣.

[glacial ridge]

And also probably every 5th question in here is asking about "how we looking with buffs" etc. lol

[winged zenith]

Key to 18s is queue when less people playing so they have no choice but to take you

[fringe venture]

Btw, its me or this last week we are taking kinda more unmittigated dmg? I feel im being hitted more times and stronger. I even got 1 shotted down on PIT by a 1million Bolt, never happened before

[winged zenith]

Its you

If you talking about lich maybe some random bolt hit your reflect before lich

[fringe venture]

Nah was not on lich, was on the ramp pull after duo Boss. Just happened once, and was the only time I did that pull a bit slower, couldnt understand it

[winged zenith]

Most likely was unlucky crit bolt

[fringe venture]

Happened too to a guildy, to me on a 16 and to him on a weeklys 10, he is 282 p. Paly. Happened exactly the same on the same pull and both were this week

[lofty glen]

hey guys. after all the nerves... which fight is harder? Alleria or Beloren?

[rancid tiger]

Guys

Prot changes are they LIVE

or on reset?

[ocean smelt]

On reset

[rancid tiger]

sadge

i gotta a veng in my keys atm 😄

[vale escarp]

You can also go for an engineering crafting item, they are solo stats, 100% haste not like the other items with 50/50 split.

[low mango]

Ingi as in Engineering?

[vale escarp]

Yes

[rancid tiger]

i mean

u just said it

we are 20 ilvls ahead of u

no buff im 1000 ish crit 1000 ish haste as arms

[vale escarp]

You still want 1188 haste If you wanna run ITF. It's just a way to get more haste If you wanna use a crafting item anyway

[rancid tiger]

True

[vale escarp]

It's just another option If you need more of one stat

[fringe mural]

i crafted engineering boots because i already had two embellishs

and boots are a great slot to do it with

helmet is crap because it has to be tier

and wrists should be crafted with arcanoweave

[lunar flare]

taunted lothraxion image in middle room of nexus point, he clips into the stairs and starts evading whilst one shotting everyone in the group

excellente

guess that was my fault for thinking he could walk up inclines

[plush tendon]

Neither should be practically hard anymore

id say Alleria

The difficulty curve of Belo was mostly 'how do you do enough damage to two phase'

[ivory barn]

On an interesting note in the same place, if you charge down the bridge onto the platform you fall off the map and dc

Happened 3 times in Nexus points yesterday

[lunar flare]

im just glad blizzard QA is top notch and this will all be fixed soon

instead of them adding in prop hunt and £60 treehouse facades for player housing

[lunar flare]

kek

[echo egret]

Log analysis : what should I do to boost my damage output ?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JYM4ckwxvqHnfgdX?fight=2&type=damage-done&source=78

[ivory barn]

Learning arms tonight (for PVP)

[plush tendon]

its great!

climed to 1900

the only time it sucks is when everyone else in the lobby is a caster

[frosty mango]

At first glance

You wasted 5% of your rage
You are not pressing thunderclap enough
You are missing a lot of haste which means you’re running hr and losing a lot of dps
I would probably play bloodsurge over bsv here but that’s a preference

[ivory barn]

Wanted to try it in m+, but I want the illusion more

[plush tendon]

your demo shout casts are really low

like, you are missing half of your potential demo shouts

[stiff inlet]

not arguing just trying to learn, if its at 1.1 cpm on a 45 sec cd

[ivory barn]

I wish demo shout wasn't on gcd

[stiff inlet]

wouldnt 1.25 be max cpm on demo

[lusty grotto]

demo has cdr

[plush tendon]

running thunderlords

[lusty grotto]

yup

[stiff inlet]

oh duh

[plush tendon]

so you get up to 4.5 seconds of cdr per thunderclap

[stiff inlet]

thats the part i was not thinking about, ty!

[lone turret]

hey all, ive seen some people macro SB into SS, is there any real downside to this?

[lusty grotto]

dont do it

the downside is you go on a negative in rage spending, and you lose all SB charges

when you eventually swap to ITF, it'll hurt you a shitton

those people are in the wrong

[lone turret]

okay yea that makes a lot of sense

[echo egret]

hmm, TC I was suspecting something like that - should it take priority over SS ?
haste, well, tell that to the gods of loot !
if I'm not using DS on cooldown it's because I tend to use it as a defensive on nasty packs

[north marsh]

Just found this macro in the FAQ Section. Can someone explain me where the advantage is?

/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Shield Slam

[lusty grotto]

its to consume SS resets when you IP

you still need a separate and main SS bind

the macro section mentions that

what part of that did you not understand?

devastator can reset SS, so if it happens in a gcd wait, you just snipe it

[frosty mango]

The icy veins guide has the prio - but you will cast thunder blast over shield slam yes

[north marsh]

ah ok, so i can save me a GCD

thanks for the explanation

[frosty mango]

It doesn’t really save a gcd as much as a finger move since ignore pain is not on the gcd

[lusty grotto]

[frosty mango]

You can press ignore pain independent of your gcds, at the same time as your other skills. Thats a big reason why your physical bind for it is important, it should be independent of other skills, like a mouse button or something….not something like shift+f2

[weak cove]

my ignore pain is in E but i know a guy than use it in a macro with shield slam... idont like it but work for him

[lunar flare]

E

for

Egnore pain

[harsh trellis]

Just my opinion, correct me if I am wrong. don't macro any of that shit. Get a rage bar so you can see in front of your face and don't spam everything.

when the rage bar hits 70% press ip

I had to slow down my spammy shit

[lunar flare]

i mean if your rage bar hits 70% why not press the macro instead

[jagged pier]

love spending more rage than im gaining because ive macro'd a spender to a generator

[lunar flare]

me too, i call it "the spengenerator"

[harsh trellis]

most people spam their buttons. Last season made Thunderclap spammy as hell. I got so used to that and it ruined my gameplay this season

I had to slow shit down

[lusty grotto]

as long as they are hitting it for IP only, its fine

[plush tendon]

you gotta spend rage you dont have to make rage

[lunar flare]

what came first, the spender or the generator

[plush tendon]

the spender

[lunar flare]

really makes u think doesnt it

[plush tendon]

unironcally the correct answer

Classic Prot War didnt have any generators other then Bloodrage

[lusty grotto]

and auto attacks

but yeah

[harsh trellis]

I loved classic arms war rage generation

[tribal wharf]

i liked rogue before outlaw

they changed combat to outlaw and how assassination works

[harsh trellis]

I liked rogue when Cloak of shadows had 0 cooldown

[tribal wharf]

and then i quit playing rogue

[harsh trellis]

they put cloak of shadows into the game with 0 cooldown, then the locks cried about it. (they were correct) and they added a cooldown on it.

double mace rogue , full stun lock build, just godmode fun for a short period of time

[warm plinth]

Nothing like waiting 4 seconds for your next swing to get more rage amirite

[ionic yarrow]

so am I going to start getting invited into 18s tomorrow or is the buff too weak?

[lusty grotto]

no amount of defensive buffs both little and small will change people inviting a certain class

thats only changed by the meta, if the r1s think warrior is good, then the meta shifts (they wont)

even if bear gets thrash nerfed

VDH is a contender now

with brews

[ionic yarrow]

so we're bottom 3 now?

[lusty grotto]

we're not bottom anything

[ionic yarrow]

we're sure as shit at the buttom of invite list

[warm plinth]

I mean, some of us are I'm sure 😏

[lusty grotto]

doesnt really matter, its player perception

[harsh trellis]

Maybe im mis remembering but I thought we also built rage the more shit was htting on us

[plush tendon]

VDH? really?

[harsh trellis]

so we just pulled more shit to have like a rage battery

[lusty grotto]

sure vdh, they were doing fine before the buffs

so were we

[warm plinth]

I didn't play warrior back then so I'm not sure if that's the case. I didn't start playing warrior until Legion.

[ionic yarrow]

when you say "fine" what key level are you talking about?

[warm plinth]

I was just memeing on the slow swing timer

[lusty grotto]

you said Arms

were you getting hit as Arms?

also Arms rage gen is literally the same now as it is back then, the only rage gen you have is keeping rend up outside of auto attacks

[warm plinth]

We still get rage from being hit but it has like a 3 second cooldown or some shit

[undone beacon]

Outside of the outliers (Brew/Bear), the tanks are pretty decently balanced imo. Dungeon design is the issue this season moreso than tank power, which is why Brew has been so preferred (they deal with the dungeon mechs well). Pwarr was fine and is fine and will be fine, but like Nim said it comes down to whatever community perception (i.e. streamers and youtubers) is that week. If you enjoy pwarr and want to play it, keep playing it. Nobody said you're guaranteed an invite playing a meta tank anyways

[plush tendon]

VDH wasnt on my radar on potential 3rd tank for top meta spots; personally Prot Pal is the most interesting to me right now

[lusty grotto]

perceptionwise, prot pally didnt change much, youre still paper outside of cds

[plush tendon]

then maybe Blood/VDH but less so; VDH still super RNG dependent for Meta uptime

[lusty grotto]

uhh no

[undone beacon]

I see a lot of people getting super hyped over ppal, those silly billies

[plush tendon]

Prot Pal had their defensive uptime super buffed

[ionic yarrow]

Your "outliers" is a 1/3rd of the tank classes...

[plush tendon]

but the ST damage is still poopy

[harsh trellis]

I want people to be excited for their class fantasy

[undone beacon]

Thats what happens when they wont add more tanks. Theres always one thats an outlier, and bear has shown up recently as an upset

[cerulean tusk]

Only change to BDK, is the silly amount of dam it can do with good RNG now

[plush tendon]

more DRW is always good

its the best CD for tanking trash in M+

[cerulean tusk]

RNG DRW is worst DRW

[plush tendon]

for sure

not a fan of random proc DRW (honestly, not a fan of any random proc def)

[undone beacon]

Unrelated but I need two more vault keys on the rat lock and since I've only done 3 unique dungeons nobody wants me 👉 👈 🥺

[plush tendon]

still, if the overall uptime of DRW increases throughout a key, its still a very good buff

[undone beacon]

I did 6 keys on the lock this week and 4 of them were Spire

[cerulean tusk]

DPS wise, sure

[solid sun]

I’ll dance with your rune weapon

[plush tendon]

I still think Bear will remain as the choice though, even if Thrash gets tuned down

get druid buff, slot in MW

everyone happy

[solid sun]

Bdk probs best

[cerulean tusk]

They removed BDKs burst dam, and gave them 5% phy DR instead. Doubt

[plush tendon]

how did they remove BDK burst dam?

I didnt see any damage nerfs

[lusty grotto]

augusto, what possible gain do you have with mystic touch from a MW versus an Rdruid?

0

[plush tendon]

MW is apparently doing more HPS and more damage in keys

[lusty grotto]

uh huh

[plush tendon]

According to my M+ pusher friends

[ivory barn]

Was MDI this last weekend?

[plush tendon]

theyve been prepping bears and MW this week

[lusty grotto]

MW was doing more HPS 3 weeks ago

or more

[plush tendon]

for comp swap

[lusty grotto]

didnt put them over rdruid

[plush tendon]

yea, but now you can slot in bear

[lusty grotto]

you said

if thrash gets nerfed

[coarse bay]

One of the groups was

[lusty grotto]

if bears get put back down

[plush tendon]

tuned down, not nerfed back to its OG level

[lusty grotto]

the fuck you not gonna send the rdruid for?

"tuned down", do you really think a no apex build will fly with blizzard?

[plush tendon]

who knows

[lusty grotto]

.........

[plush tendon]

no notes yet

only speculation

[vital stirrup]

hasnt there been a no apex for mistweaver the entire expansion?

[lusty grotto]

idk i dont play MW

[plush tendon]

they may even buff Apex while nerfing thrash

I have no clue

[vital stirrup]

murlok shows 1 dude with rank 4 apex

[coarse bay]

Theyre still playing dotc right

[lusty grotto]

im allergic to mulrok

[vital stirrup]

not the best for sure

[lusty grotto]

fuck no

[coarse bay]

Oh ec

Nice

I like the moon

[warm plinth]

Hi Cam

[solid sun]

The moon likes you

[ivory barn]

Murlokio sounds like noxxic 2.0

[solid sun]

Well noxxic had a point to it even if the info was bad

I still don’t see a point for aggregate sites

[coarse bay]

Hi

I hope everyone’s having a good day so far

[coarse bay]

[ocean smelt]

US or EU?

[undone beacon]

US

[ivory barn]

I'd take you tonight if you still need em after dinner

[ocean smelt]

Awh sadly can't help I'm EU

[coarse bay]

I dont think i have a key done this week

Gonna have to slam some t1 delves for that reroll token

[ivory barn]

You need 6 slots. I just did lfr and m0's on my rogue

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1481375328038424617/image0.gif

[maiden forge]

3

[ivory barn]

What? I've been lied to

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365602732670844939/1425909258171711571/image0.gif

[maiden forge]

each slot gives 2 tokens

[solid sun]

@coarse bay play dune with me

[maiden forge]

need 6 tokens for a bonus roll, get a max of 6 per week

[coarse bay]

May e

Maybe

[fringe mural]

I think at one point we were even hitting enemies from the front because overpower dealt more dmg than a regular autoattack

and it would proc on an enemy parry

[cerulean tusk]

DD no longer go boom, instead of it dealing 150% of the dam instantly, it now deals 50% of the dam over 5 sec (yes, you lose 50% of the dam)

[flat delta]

whats our best tank trinkets again?

from M+**

[lusty grotto]

the ones the guide mentions

the icy-veins guide

[flat delta]

I thought the one in SR was supposed to be amazing but its not on the guide

[lusty grotto]

i dont know what youre reading but it is in the guide

[flat delta]

which guide?

[tribal wharf]

may want to look into this addon

[lusty grotto]

did you find it yet?

because im looknig at it

[flat delta]

yea in B tier, which is why I was asking what our best one was

[lusty grotto]

brother if its there

[flat delta]

because B <> S

[glacial ridge]

Does that addon pull just from WoWhead, or can you select? Depending on spec i look in different areas

[lusty grotto]

just subtract all the raid ones

B tier does not mean its dogshit

[tribal wharf]

wowhead and archon

but i think the youtuber i was watching was suggesting it does icy viens, it does not

but it does like, everything

gems you want, rotation, how much stat, quick link in game to builds

its for alts

[glacial ridge]

Nim must have the patience of a god, the questions that roll in every day...

[lusty grotto]

i try

but its not easy

[tribal wharf]

die as hero or live long enough to become the villian

burn out comes for anyone do a job or type of thing long enough

[lunar flare]

i love that anything not at the top of a tier list is literally invisible to people

"where is it???"

[lusty grotto]

yeah

its unfortunate

[jagged pier]

thinking dungeon trinkets will be in s tier

i mean there will be at least 1 next season if it doesnt get changed

[lusty grotto]

its also unrealistic to rank trinkets in a vacuum

[fringe mural]

isn't B like 3rd place?

i mean

S A B C Dogshit

Extra Dogshit

i don't think the cool wow rankings even use something lower than D

[lunar flare]

never change yogi

[tribal wharf]

fun fact, duke was based before greasy randy

[fringe mural]

wait

That's duke nukem 3d right?

[lunar flare]

looks like it

[fringe mural]

'Come get some'

[tribal wharf]

its true, the more sleazy aspects of duke, were added in DNF

before this, he is always a gigachad and a proper gentleman

[fringe mural]

well he's visiting a strip club in that part isnt he?

[tribal wharf]

its the cursed randy pitchford version of duke 3d, but yes

theres advantages to play dos version and randy

[lunar flare]

randy "oops dropped my usb drive full of porn at a family restaurant" pitchford

[tribal wharf]

highly questionable content

[plush tendon]

thats for San only though

[tribal wharf]

in those usbs,

[plush tendon]

I think most people are playing DB in keys

[naive ravine]

It is straight up wrong, the stat prio for dk is vers > mastery > crit > haste

Rest seems to be okay

[plush tendon]

Such a simple statement, yet so divisive in the BDK community

[naive ravine]

Wowhead suggesting full dmg setup on bdk

Lose your live for 1,5% dmg gain

[tribal wharf]

i prefer sanlayn

[plush tendon]

lets not get into the the varying points of view regarding BDK

[tribal wharf]

but hes lvl 83

[plush tendon]

cause, as we both know, its quite a contested issue

not worth getting into

[plush tendon]

I miss old San

when Blood Beast was 100% gamble for the biggest damage ever

[fringe mural]

also it's an undead

they can all go die

[dark lark]

In Kyrasis we trust

[naive ravine]

True

Based

[jade crane]

My guild is trying to Kill mythic Chimaerus and we are talking about doing the tank sack for the 5th soak to prevent a second intermission. We definitely have the damage but I'm curious if anyone here has a reason for me to try and live it through externals. Between our new axe throw interrupt thing, regular kick, disruptive shout, and stuns, I could probably kick a good number of the fears. Do I just die and rezz up top for more damage? Is there a reason to live in the aln-realm?

[stone tundra]

No reason to live really

[plush tendon]

try to live for the memes

[lusty grotto]

you can turbo live cause you can reflect big guy

[plush tendon]

the big guy aint the scary part; as someone now tasked with this most important task, at some point you just get horrified or some shit

[lusty grotto]

living isnt really hard

[plush tendon]

its omega lame

[lusty grotto]

so?

[stone tundra]

You dont wipe the group if you die, if that is the important part for you

[lusty grotto]

we have the tools for fear

[elfin elk]

Die ASAP and get rezzd if you wanna do boss dam

[plush tendon]

I dont believe fear break works for horrified

its also inconsequential

[lusty grotto]

if you mean the soak, then no

[plush tendon]

enjoy the extra minute break while your team finishes the boss

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter anyway

[plush tendon]

get a cookie, or take a deserved bathroom break

[elfin elk]

Im not sure if add damage down there counts for parsing but if yes you can do some degen stuff down there

[stone tundra]

Let a dps swap with you with madness

[jade crane]

**Asking about the soak, solo soak and either die or live in aln-realm

Checked the spell reflect page and it only stops the physical part? Still massive nature damage?

[lusty grotto]

you want to parse there, you gotta solo go down and reflect

[elfin elk]

also are we going to send the first ascendant voidcore on shield or wep?

[lusty grotto]

pretty much

[cerulean tusk]

Spam the new buffed execute

[lusty grotto]

the hit's physical part is blockable with natty shield block, you just reflect the nature damage yes

im not sure which part you dont understand

if the confusion is with the block column, the sheet is similar to Sense's sheet, it includes blockable attacks

[undone beacon]

Big hunter pbox, hoorah

[lusty grotto]

that means, we can block it with Shield Block

gz pash

[plush tendon]

I like to think that puzzlebox is a rubix cube

and everytime I use it, everyone looks at me like 'wow, he must be so smart'

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/puzzle-baby-play-time-gif-7374600

my warrior hitting puzzlebox every 2 mins

[jade crane]

that part i "didn't understand" was exactly how much damage a solo soak of the nature damage would do. Typically meant to be split with 10 people. But sounds like its easy which answers my question

[lusty grotto]

youre thinking of a different mechanic

colossal strike is not a soak

but if you mean the upheaval, logs are available

[jade crane]

I am looking at what it takes to solo soak. Do i need an external or can I just live it natty with shield wall + spell reflect

[lusty grotto]

you cannot reflect the upheaval

you would use it for MDR i guess

just keep SB up, send wall and SR

its not a big deal

its not MFO saladbar soak

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-square-hole-square-hole-shapes-piklas-gif-24625312

[jade crane]

Right, we will see what happens but was simply curious if someone here knew how survivable it was solo in mythic

[undone beacon]

Pretty survivable

[lusty grotto]

with wall it hits for 166k nature

with wall and SR

and the physical part hits for 49k

it hits for nothing

[jade crane]

I know we are tanks but for a mechanic that is meant to split damage with half of the raid, crazy that we can live it so comfortably. Cool shit

[lusty grotto]

well maybe because

youre not supposed to

you solo soak before that last phase

you wipe

because you have nobody inside to manage adds

the idea is not to kill tanks

the idea is to split the raid

[undone beacon]

Its more of a "split the damage to show that its a mechanic that necessitates half the raid standing in it to do downstairs stuff" vs "split the damage because the mechanic is just stupid big damage"

[lusty grotto]

exactly

[undone beacon]

Like Execution Sentence on LBV? Split because its big ol damage. Chim? Split to do mechanics. Fight design yadda yadda

[jade crane]

The fear in aln-realm only fears those down right? It doesn't fear** those on top?

[arctic hearth]

think of the pad damage

[plush tendon]

correct

[lunar flare]

just saw a reddit post showing a chinese team doing +20 windrunner with 5 guardian druids

u know what that means

[plush tendon]

im actually baffled there have been no annouced nerfs for bear XD

[lunar flare]

just need wowhead to report on it

[plush tendon]

The balance team fumbled so hard on the bear changes

The incompetence is actually outstanding

[severe forum]

MW has always done big HPS that never made them good

[lusty grotto]

im not sure how youre baffled considering people were complaining about brew on friday

[undone beacon]

Don’t nerf bears. Buff revenge by 200% and make it hit in a circle to fix gather issues with Col instead

[lusty grotto]

duh

thats exactly my point

why would you want 2 classes that do mystic touch

[daring marlin]

nearly pizza tike

time too

[plush tendon]

is there some news on Brew I didnt know about?

[daring marlin]

You need WS still?

[plush tendon]

I thought it was still solid

[lunar flare]

i had a great bbq chicken pizza from dominos last week

[undone beacon]

Pizza tike sounds like a slur smh

[daring marlin]

I can just drop mine on my pally down

[naive ravine]

What was on it?

[lusty grotto]

no... people are late to catch up to the meta, so why would it surprise you that blizzard is also

[undone beacon]

I got the trinkets from Spire so I’m thinking Pit would be a good place to hit now

[plush tendon]

oh damn, I shouldve taken a picture of this bacon, egg and cheese I got with my GF on Sunday

was outstanding

and only $7

[daring marlin]

who needs more than pecorino romano and mozz on their pizza anyway

smh

[lunar flare]

Green and Red Peppers, Smoked Bacon Rashers, Onions, Chicken Breast Strips, BBQ Sauce, Mozzarella Cheese

[daring marlin]

That's an abomination

[plush tendon]

there are like 3 acceptable pizza toppings

plain, pepperoni, and sausage

[lunar flare]

u eat plain pizzas

[plush tendon]

yea

[lunar flare]

do u have a sunflower lanyard?

[plush tendon]

you have to try a places regular slice

to see if its any good

[daring marlin]

I make my own pizza, yes. I'm not a troglodyte.

[lunar flare]

good for u man

i eat dominos

and its great

[daring marlin]

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/gross-nasty-yuck-cat-damn-gif-19871256

[daring marlin]

LMFAOOOOO

[plush tendon]

dont make me go into my closet and stomp on that garbage with my tims

[lunar flare]

do it nerd

[lusty grotto]

dominos is the best fast food pizza

sorry

[lunar flare]

ty

[lusty grotto]

im with octobers here

[daring marlin]

hungry howie's is better

[lunar flare]

ahh ur american

[daring marlin]

but I don't care for fast food pizza

[lunar flare]

no wonder u have no taste

[plush tendon]

fighting words

[lusty grotto]

hey hold on now

im american too

[jagged pier]

NAs talking about dominos as if its fast food, when over seas its expensive for some reason :kekw

[undone beacon]

I just don’t eat pizza

[daring marlin]

??? We have the best pizza in the world?

[lunar flare]

even ur chocolate has corn syrup in it

get outta here

[daring marlin]

New Haven style>>>>>>>>>>

[plush tendon]

[jagged pier]

[lunar flare]

mmm plain pizza with no toppings just like nona used to make it in italia

[plush tendon]

driving through CT on Friday

gonna be hitting up the places

for some good pizza

[undone beacon]

I don’t like tomato based sauces

[daring marlin]

based

[undone beacon]

But give me a raw tomato

[lunar flare]

god do u all just eat

plain toast

every morning

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[undone beacon]

And I will eat it like an apple

[lunar flare]

i guess this is the prot warrior channel, we are the plainest tank

[lusty grotto]

toast is a part of breakfast, sure

[jagged pier]

But u can make pizza with pesto base

[daring marlin]

hi guys I need eight billion toppings or I have no flavor

[crisp ocean]

do that with an onion

[jagged pier]

Which is god tier

[daring marlin]

The sauce and cheese aren't enough

this dude doesn't know food lmfao

[crisp ocean]

same

[jagged pier]

I make a chicken base pesto sauce pizza

[undone beacon]

True but that’s effort and I already don’t want to put effort into food because I hate eating

[lunar flare]

pesto is bis

[daring marlin]

yo that slaps

[undone beacon]

But a homemade pesto base is great

[crisp ocean]

i eat bread

[daring marlin]

I like doing pesto base sometimes too

just super high fat so I don't do it often

[lunar flare]

i want to know yogi's favourite pizza

[daring marlin]

doom

[final jackal]

Ive seen complaints about aggro mostly. A highly-played talent was bugged and positively contributed to aggro. It got fixed in the recent patch and Brew players are feeling the change.

[undone beacon]

i have a bowl of fresh strawberries from the farmers market and that is my meal plan for the day

[lunar flare]

doompizz

[undone beacon]

When i feel peckish i shall devour a berry and be satiated

[plush tendon]

yea, my friends whos finishing up his resil 20 was saying that brew does feel much weaker this last week

I just dont know much about brew

[lusty grotto]

wont make a difference

bear gets gutted again, brew will go back up

[lunar flare]

how often has prot been meta in seasons? was tww an outlier?

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/protein-proteyyn-cat-sparkle-eyes-gif-17858258

[lusty grotto]

all of BFA?

[jagged pier]

Alot recently

[final jackal]

There is beauty in simplicity

[jagged pier]

Mainly because ppl forget shield block is a thing

[lunar flare]

3 replies, lucky me

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/go-grandpa-go-grandpa-go-rossman-fold-genetics-gif-26874831

[undone beacon]

fuck u

[lunar flare]

🍓

dinner time

[undone beacon]

fuck yeah

thems the good shit

[lunar flare]

actually got some strawbs in the fridge

the real gamer snack

[lusty grotto]

so do i

[lunar flare]

hell yeah you do

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/okarun-dandadan-strawberry-picmix-green-gif-1721823344145826237

[daring marlin]

One whole berry?

tiny human

I like devouring a pound of blueberries

[undone beacon]

Blueberries sound good af rn

I need to to be summer so the farmers market can have its full suite of fresh goodies

[upbeat plover]

It's fairly warm, my local one is starting back up. But a lot of it is random crafts/trinkets

[undone beacon]

I've got one literally right across the street, and luckily its not super craft dominated. Theres some unique stands in there, people making homemade sauces and pastas and pickles and hummus and stuff

[lusty grotto]

i have a feeling this year hurricane season is gonna be rough, and i have to fly to the caribbean soon

[undone beacon]

I hope its not rough

[lusty grotto]

yeah fingers crossed

but still

cant shake the feeling

[undone beacon]

The company i work for is based out of Louisiana and while i wouldn't be impacted by the weather, if they get rocked its a bad time regardless

[compact silo]

how fucking hard can it be for people to not die in NPX before they even reach the first boss?

kms

[undone beacon]

Left side NPX is the worst section of any dungeon this season imo

Worse than skyreach wind maze

[compact silo]

what-fucking-ever. it's so fking easy when you actually do what you have to

[undone beacon]

Yeah, but its so easy for one person to fuck it up and have it cascade into a brick

Lots of points of failiure in one little section

[compact silo]

not only that but having the gall to say "tank potato" when i havent died once

meanwhile dps and heal dying left and right

[lusty grotto]

i mean youre a potato if youre pulling seers

[upbeat plover]

Yeah this one like couple min walk from me. But I never go outside... so I'm not there often 😂

[undone beacon]

Aw booo

[compact silo]

1 seer

[lusty grotto]

good good

[compact silo]

unless some huntard or warlock's pets pull the first one

[upbeat plover]

You can afford farmer's markets? I gotta become a femboy apparently

[undone beacon]

Theres a high correlation between femboys and decently paying IT jobs

[lusty grotto]

where are you that farmers market are more expensive than retail supermarkets

[compact silo]

sub 16+ pugs are brain damaged or something i swear

[undone beacon]

I've seen farmers markets charge some stupid prices for stuff to be fair

[lusty grotto]

sure

[undone beacon]

Usually not on produce tho

Bread? Holy fuck they upcharge the breads

[plush tendon]

bro

bread is so expensive

like, wtf

[undone beacon]

Like yes the cheddar and chive sourdough loaf is very good, but its not $22 good sorry

[upbeat plover]

You got an in? I'm an okay paid baby sitter of truck drivers

[upbeat plover]

Glorpshrug

You assume I can afford supermarkets

I photosynthesize

[plush tendon]

I wish I could do that

[undone beacon]

Sometimes I pop into bear discord to see whats up and holy

That place has been on fire all week

[plush tendon]

ima stay in Skyhold where its safe

[upbeat plover]

Because they the new big tank in town?

[undone beacon]

Constant arguments about the state of the spec in its nopex form

Essentially you have the "Nopex is fine and fun and i like doing big damage in keys" camp, and the "nopex is fundamentally flawed class design and shouldn't exist" camp

[upbeat plover]

I used to be a bear, then people told me it also meant I was gay

[undone beacon]

[upbeat plover]

crysadbeg

[plush tendon]

I think the apex talents were kind of a miss for this expansion

[upbeat plover]

Now I'm just a hairy man I guess

[plush tendon]

Hero talents worked well (even if balance early was mid at best) because at least you could freely swap and it gave some RP elements

[upbeat plover]

Apex are kinda lame. Cuz either they were bad, or blizz buffed it up to make you take it

[plush tendon]

which were neat

Apex was basically 'here are 4 high value talent points you have to use'

[harsh trellis]

Should not be rough - Should be a lower Atlantic Hurricane Season

[undone beacon]

Apex talents are weird because they gave us the illusion of choice (these are points in your spec tree that you dont have to use) but in reality you're supposed to take all 4. They couldnt add a third talent tree because thats just clutter, and they didnt want to just expand the spec trees with some new nodes, so they went with apex and now we get to contend with "is it worth taking apex lol"

Which, for most specs it 100% is required anyways

[lusty grotto]

yeah i agree apex is a really strange implementation

[undone beacon]

Like Spriest without apex would feel so much worse, even though apex isnt like a massive damage boost

Well, actually it is now moreso than originally cuz they juiced apparitions but i digress

[plush tendon]

Pretty much; theres just nothing very cool about them

no choices, no RP elements

[harsh trellis]

They are in Season and super sweet atm

[plush tendon]

its just shut up and use em

what wouldve been a super curveball is if they brought back covenants

XD

[undone beacon]

Demo lock got a pretty cool apex tho thematically, shitting out random big demons during your tyrant window for free is neat

[plush tendon]

post season 2 covs would of unironically been better

[lunar flare]

i recall ion saying in a talk of some kind that he knew that the talent tree system would become overcomplicated again eventually just like it did in classic

but that "it was fun right now" so its fine

[lofty warren]

What is the trick to stay awake while playing moon bear? Im constantly falling asleep no matter that I try

[undone beacon]

Don't play moon bear

[plush tendon]

Ive always thought the talent trees are meh at best

MoP talent trees are goated

[undone beacon]

I liked the talent tree changes in DF a lot, but they certainly become cumbersome xpac over xpac. Hero talents were a neat way to circumvent the bloat in the base trees, but thats a one time thing.

[lunar flare]

i dont personally like them because it usually boils down to everything being locked in and only a few genuine choices

but i know others enjoy them so w/e

[plush tendon]

I feel like the current ones give the illusion of choice

you may have a handful of 'free points'

[lunar flare]

thats why i kind of liked whatever version we had when i started in shadowlands

seemed a lot less nonsense

[plush tendon]

but its otherwise pretty set in stone

[plush tendon]

yea, those were MoP talent trees

[undone beacon]

I mean, that happens with any talent system. Even the MoP ones, most of your choices were locked, and you could swap one, maybe two rows around for different content (at least for the specs i played at the time)

[lunar flare]

ahh gotcha

[plush tendon]

a lot of qq about them when they first launched

since from Classic-Cata we had talent trees closer to what we have now

then MoP-SL we had the 3 option node talent trees

[undone beacon]

I think its neat that we have the ability to move a handful of points around at all, but it certianly isnt a scalable system

[plush tendon]

then DF brought back the more expansive tree

[lusty grotto]

the trees would be good if we didnt have gates

and if they removed excessive ability power from them

[undone beacon]

I love that some specs make you take everything in top gate and other don't. Like whats the point

[lusty grotto]

having 5 talents buffing a single ability is really sad

[upbeat plover]

Brew without Apex would be oof

So... Def illusion of choice

[plush tendon]

Apex talents were made to 100% not be a choice

the rest of the tree is a illusion of having choices

[undone beacon]

I’m still annoyed that shadow has a talent in first gate to allow for double mind blast, which would be huge and make the rotation feel better, but it’s in such an awkward spot you literally cannot take it

You literally have to give up tentacle slam or apparitions to get it

Which is… not possible

[hexed moth]

what are the best setting for sim rings for warr prot

[upbeat plover]

I have a choice in the class tree. I can sac something so I can have ox statue and have someone yell at me, or I can forgo the nice ox statue to appease the meta slaves

[undone beacon]

1 target 5 min for ST, 5 target 1:30 for AoE

[crisp ocean]

anyone know how to maximize getting myth items from bonus roles? is it better to use all in one dungeon? (for alts)

[lunar haven]

How important is whirling blade? Is the rage gain really better than something like indom?

[lusty grotto]

100%

and you need rage for indom

[undone beacon]

For an alt, pick a dungeon with a few chase items and clear out the table until you have what you want, then move to a diff dungeon

[hexed moth]

all patchwork not dungoune slice

[undone beacon]

Correct

[crisp ocean]

alr ty

[undone beacon]

Dropping whirling for Indom is 100% inting

[undone beacon]

On my rat lock, I sent every roll into Spire until I had both trinkets. Now I’m going to focus pit because it has some good stuff in slots I need. It’s all gamba tho

[ivory barn]

Do you still need runs? I can later

[plush tendon]

for a brand new toon

you should pick one dungeon

and just bonus roll that till you get all the stuff from there (that you want)

its honestly super nice

[undone beacon]

I need 2 10+s but we'll see if i care enough lolol

[plush tendon]

make sure you get at least 3 boxes!

I started doing the void assaults

when I cant be bothered to do more keys

start getting that void tmog

[ivory barn]

it'll be like 6hrs

After I'm done bricking my computer due to issues

https://tenor.com/view/peter-family-guy-throwing-his-car-off-a-cliff-nosolohit-stan-twitter-gif-12069191405568522303

[undone beacon]

i did 50 void assaults, 25 in each zone, so i could get the meta achieve for the mount. Had accolades left over after buying all the mogs

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/topi-taupe-gif-18267041901242486529

I wasnt aware of your moliness

[undone beacon]

I did a bunch of t11 delves on the rat so i'll be able to take a bonus roll if i dont finish more keys

[ivory barn]

Starting to think all add-ons are a crime, gonna have to disable a lot of shit

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/mole-day-mole-mole-dance-cute-mole-cute-mole-dance-gif-15454034037912978724

[ivory barn]

Fastest way to brick a UI and keep key binds is just delete wtf/interface right?

[stone tundra]

wtf will also delete all macros

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-ponder-wondering-hmmm-gif-3379473559512476121

https://tenor.com/view/banned-hammer-smash-explode-hit-gif-17254200

Well time to send the hammer to the folder then

[stoic hound]

5 bears completed 20 wrs lol

[harsh trellis]

What are you trying to do

[ivory barn]

This drops to 30-50fps in combat

When it's 150+ outside and in the wild

[harsh trellis]

If i can make a suggestion on ui

You have vertical sync off

[ivory barn]

Yes

[harsh trellis]

Are you using an nvidia card

[ivory barn]

165hz monitor and yeah

[harsh trellis]

Are you using the nvidia recommended settings?

[ivory barn]

No

[harsh trellis]

Try that

[lusty grotto]

no, dont

[harsh trellis]

Also

Hold on

[ivory barn]

That turns ray tracing on and everything on 4k lol

[harsh trellis]

Dont set it to ultra

[lusty grotto]

use this instead: https://github.com/tukui-org/ElvUI/wiki/performance-optimization-retail

nvidia recommended settings is not good advice