protection

[unkempt pebble]

Its 5s buff i think

[fringe venture]

Need to quit some poison from my brain so im going to shout It here and share🤣.
Just tried a 16 PIT with 3 premade dps, me and random healer. One of them, DK, didnt Kick a shit, didnt use even 1 AMZ, on duo Boss (3rd on my route) them 3 already died 7 time and 1 the healer, bc of no interrupting. They started to blame at me bc I was chain pulling instead of "pull more Big man" wich I was not going to do bc of their shitty interrupting or using defs. We finally wiped on the ramp double pull, again for not interrupts and the DK didnt grip the caster. And they 3 started to flame at me like hungry monkeys saying im a trash tank and my route IS a shit🤣🤣.
Bible finished😅

[naive ravine]

You dont insta die to one stack tho

[unkempt pebble]

I just pray someone interrupts on ramp

[lunar flare]

Well no, I didn't mean I dwarfed a single stack lol

[vale bolt]

As a dps in a 16+ I reckon you do

[lunar flare]

I meant "one cast", my bad for clarity

[unkempt pebble]

Most of my camps have just two casters one cadaver that i take care of cus i dont trust dps will

[naive ravine]

Also not pulling as many poison guys at once also helps

[fringe venture]

I always stop on first pack, interrupt myself, silence the caster, leap to second pack, and backpad to the first for group both pulls, but man Im a tank no a god, if they dont do the Next kicks what else can I do

[unkempt pebble]

Ye same i interrupt first or wrecking throw to delay the cast

[lunar flare]

All you can do in these situations is focus on your own performance, if others goof then that's on them. Nothing you can do about that

That is the pug lifestyle

[unkempt pebble]

++++

I just tell them to not kick lich

So i can reflect

[crisp ocean]

that’s pugs lol

[fringe venture]

They was in a clear RACE between them 3 for the 1st dps spot, and not doing mechs at all. And flamed me and healer, that things piss me off a bit, I dont rly care bc I go another key, but man, whats going on with ppl? They are absolutely dumb

[lunar flare]

Tanks get most the flack most the time because it's easy to blame them and you're the most visible role

[fringe venture]

Yeah I know and I use to deal with It, but this case got me pissed tbh

[lunar flare]

Yeah it's hard not to get annoyed man, I find myself snapping in anger too sometimes

It's tough

[fringe venture]

That DK trying to give lessons and he didnt use defensives or interrupts...... Absolutely weird

[cerulean tusk]

16-17 area is where all the casuals are, that are "trying" and getting stuck

So a lot of bruised egoes there, so always some drama and anger

[unkempt pebble]

[lunar flare]

It's usually a hardcore case of cognitive dissonance. Rather than admit they made mistakes it's a lot simpler to go "tank bad???" and then feel relief, because now you did nothing wrong and everything correct. It's someone elses fault yay

That's why they'll be hard stuck in 15s for 4 more months

[fringe venture]

Sometimes when this happens to me I just start going pasive and tell to the guy "ok now ur the tank, teach me" 🤣

[lunar flare]

Tbh I think once it devolves into an argument you gg and vote abandon

[naive ravine]

If they flame you mid run and its not your key just stop pressing buttons

[fringe venture]

Usually I do, but if im bored and in the mood, I make them waste their time. Evil appears on me sometimes🤣

[lunar flare]

++++

[naive ravine]

Either you abondon or wait till its not intime

[unkempt pebble]

I usually just ignore

Their bad vibes dont have to have an effect on you

[fringe venture]

Yeah, once a guy pissed me soooooo damn bad, and they didnt want to abandon bc they wanted to finish out of time. When time went over, I abandones before last Boss😈

[lunar flare]

I actually downloaded an addon that blocks all whispers from strangers, it's been such a QOL improvement

They can whisper me what they want, I'll never see it now lol

[fringe venture]

Thats a good one, but sometimes u find good ppl and make new Friends to push with. I just ignore by my own usually

[lunar flare]

Yeah in those cases I disable it temporarily to talk etc

Ignoring it yourself also fine

[unkempt pebble]

It mostly happens in party chat anyway

[lunar flare]

I think blizzard should change it so reports from tank players count as 5 reports

[naive ravine]

[drowsy ermine]

want to prot on my 2nd warrior alt to fill my mythic+ keys, is thane or colossus better for 247 baby warr? Or about the same?

[lunar flare]

At that level I reckon both are decent

Thane is the most popular

[drowsy ermine]

okie - i'm just looking to make sure I don't miss out on a ton of survivability for a lil bit of damage kind of thing

[lunar flare]

Trust me, in the key level you'll be in, you'll want all the damage you can get haha

[timid wigeon]

yo, how do you guys survive NPX first pull with 7 shadowguards and bazillions of heal absorb?

[naive ravine]

Than is better then colossus currently

Ilvl doesnt matter

And both of the hero tree provide plenty of defense

[drowsy ermine]

which one of these bars will show my ignore pain stacks if I have it on that bar?

or is the system shit and not show that, and just show that it's 'active'

[vital stirrup]

You dont need to track it. Just hit it at 70+ rage

[drowsy ermine]

okie

[compact silo]

only thing you need to track is Shield Block

[unkempt pebble]

Kite, defensive stance, if bl better just dps a bit and hit wall

[blazing shuttle]

Sweet! Leech too! Looks good-

Cannot equip it. Could lose tier set bonus.

[sweet egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o2r6J26bQCAD7PPEhnVCGG <- with EA https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2ccNLqV3eUh22rWBnxQUSa <- with TaN @lusty grotto

[naive ravine]

What about more then 5 Targets?

[compact silo]

they changed adept of the dawn dot icon?

[lunar flare]

Yes

They must have thought, well if tanks are staring at it, lets spruce it up a bit

[compact silo]

threw me off

[compact silo]

"spruce it up with a 25 year old icon from warcraft 3"

[lunar flare]

Hell yeah

This is what the people want

[compact silo]

probably cuz people think it's a bleed instead of fire dot

is that the only change?

[oak ivy]

what does it look like now?

[lunar flare]

More fire

less bleed looking

I think before it was a darker red that suggested it was a bleed

Now its a picture of fire and more orange

[oak ivy]

its not this anymore? D:

[compact silo]

found it

[drowsy ermine]

banana

[compact silo]

from warcraft 3

[oak ivy]

oooh

actual fire

[compact silo]

i think that's rain of fire for the dreadlords

/doomguard/pit lord

[lunar flare]

Waiting for them to make it a bleed

I pray for the day

[compact silo]

stop

[oak ivy]

is it not dwarfable

[lunar flare]

It is not

[compact silo]

nope

[oak ivy]

gg

[lunar flare]

But it COULD BE

[compact silo]

i dont want the whole game to be "you have to play dwarf"

just stop

[lunar flare]

I'm a dwarf, so that is exactly what I want

[compact silo]

well i dont

[oak ivy]

did u play m+ tank when necrotic was an affix?? actual you have to play dwarf

[lunar flare]

Also evokers can bleed dispel as well, not just dwarves

But gl finding an evoker who knows where that button is

[compact silo]

i was tauren main but had to switch to dwarf this exp because no bitter immunity and every dungeon has bleed now

[compact silo]

pres evoker sucks if you arent melee grp

[lunar flare]

Bleed dispel is on class tree, all 3 specs can do it

[hybrid fog]

Hate racials, just want to pick the one i wanna look at, there is like only 3 - 4 people actually care about, rest is sadge.

[compact silo]

fr

[oak ivy]

im a dragon, swapped to it for ansurek prog and have not reconsidered.

[lunar flare]

Yeah in a perfect world they just let every race select the racial they want, but perhaps we don't have the technology for that

[hybrid fog]

They for sure have the technology, they just don't consider it a big issue

[lunar flare]

Yeah I was joking

[vital stirrup]

Or they want money for race swaps

[lunar flare]

dwarf warriors look cute tho

though if i could, i'd play vulpera

the ultimate sigma tank

[vital stirrup]

If most of my friends weren't horde i would probably just pick human for mine

[waxen shore]

Just play gnome

[lunar flare]

based

[harsh trellis]

gnomes are gross

[naive ravine]

9 to 12

12 gives highest 9 gives lowest

10 to 16 I think?

[sweet egret]

I just got 16 crests for doing a 17

[compact silo]

what 1h weapon to craft

[sweet egret]

str

[compact silo]

farstrider chopper?

[compact silo]

😮

woahh

[sweet egret]

I am currently using the spellbreaker's blade

[compact silo]

what embelish for weapon?

or no embelish

[vital stirrup]

Is there a reason you are crafting a weapon instead of bonus rolling for one?

[harsh trellis]

I still think its dumb if we craft 2 285 weapons theres no discount for us crafting a 2 hander

[hexed moth]

if you have myth wopean, better have other crafted gear with arcane embelish

[vital stirrup]

Yea i know i was just curious why the other guy was talking about crafting one

[crisp ocean]

i wanna play gnome but I like the dwarf racial

[tribal wharf]

spongebong hemppants

[fringe venture]

I just tried a lvl 80 monk and IS weird all tools they got and the mobility and all. Just wanted to figure why pwars keep being declined on +18s and above and now I know. Still I wont change to monk even if that make harder my pushing, bc first I dont like the kung-fu role Style, I like weap + shield or 2h and also bc I wont join the meta to make pugs Happy, but oh man, It Is a weird toon full of tools omg. Obviously didnt play one before, I started on midnight since wotlk not playing. I find it good but in a weird way, what did Blizzard do with that class, IS like either u go monk or u go trash

[hexed moth]

be dwarf, and change appearance using toys or enchant items to gnome

[crisp ocean]

i’ll try ig

[crisp ocean]

try druid

[hexed moth]

yes monk have strong utility, dmg and survivability. In addition, the spec can do pulls behind walls that reduce time

hopefully they do more balance tuning all tanks should be equal

[vital stirrup]

Didnt they remove some of those pulls?

Heard you cant pull through the wall in terrace anymore

[hexed moth]

not sure, I remember they can pull on MT and sky reach

maybe not sure

[crisp ocean]

they buffed druid

warrior too, but druid is OP

[vital stirrup]

Yea but buffing damage wont help you not go splat

[crisp ocean]

i wanna make a druid now

[crisp ocean]

our defensives are fine I think

[hexed moth]

the thing is we should not enforced to switch to other class to push keys

[vital stirrup]

I feel brew is just tankier

[hexed moth]

top prot warr didn't push above 20

actully top 1 now playing arms to push 21

[heavy sparrow]

Bricked 28 keys and +1 (timed) 7 since Tuesday reset

[naive ravine]

The dmg profiles of the current dungeon pool dont favor prot warrs way of reducing dmg

[heavy sparrow]

Am feeling fine

[naive ravine]

What keys are you running that you feel that way?

[hexed moth]

which key level?

[hexed moth]

don't feel it now (doing 18) and i feel its fine, my goal is to get the 1% mount if poss, but when watching top port players switch to arms or stopping at 20 making me nervous that I will stop at sepcfic level

[naive ravine]

Prot is about 1 key lvl behind brew

You also have to consider that most of the amazing tank players rerolled monk so prot probably still has a bit more left

[unkempt hazel]

damn traitors

[heavy sparrow]

17s and 18s already making us dirty prnstars with a 600k slip of a back shot

[harsh trellis]

Do you guys have set builds for 16+ for specific keys?

[drowsy ermine]

+7 mgt failed 🙁

it should've been a +1 but i failed the 2nd toss bounce thing waiting for my healer to dispel me on last boss

[hearty sigil]

What’s your ilvl Clarence

[drowsy ermine]

it was 248

now its 253 cuz i got a ring

[hearty sigil]

Just stand in that shit at a +7 lol

[drowsy ermine]

was a pres evoker, IDK if that class is just bad but I felt like I had 0 healing coming in

healer had 36k hps, I had 17k for the dungeon

[harsh trellis]

You can drop that puddle out to narnia and then come back in so you dont have to worry about the area

[unkempt hazel]

I dont bother moving out anymore

[harsh trellis]

and keep your quadrant clean

[drowsy ermine]

I tried to but they just either instant dispelled me or never did

[hearty sigil]

Or you can just stand in it and be fine in a 7

[drowsy ermine]

also I pressed shield charge and it sent me directly into a pylon

[vital stirrup]

Tell them to do it on ping

Usually works in pugs

[drowsy ermine]

👍

is shield charge bugged? cuz getting unexepectly sent into the pylon at mach fuck was not fun

[unkempt hazel]

as long as the melees are on the other side, it barely matters

[harsh trellis]

no, charge pathing can get strange sometimes

like in skyreach some of the charge pathing will take you along the outter edge

[drowsy ermine]

I brought whoever signed up, ended up with a 280 balance druid and 2 250 warlocks

IDK why the 280 druid used their bonus roll

w.e. not my loot optimization to care about

[vital stirrup]

In a 7?

[drowsy ermine]

ye

🤷

[vital stirrup]

Thats a choice I guess

[drowsy ermine]

they want the MOG

the MOGGGGGGGG caaaaaaaaaarl

[round pendant]

Who are all these strange people?

[severe star]

Prot warriors

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/wh-gif-4365587

[drowsy comet]

fr

[daring marlin]

holy crap yam lives

hi yam

[round pendant]

hey guys

[chrome hull]

Happens with regular charge too. Like 1 in 15 times for me. Human stun break comes in clutch

[fringe venture]

The joke is going a bit far away I think..... 282 ilvl and 3350 io and being declined for 12s?

[ivory barn]

Human stun break last boss of Store spire

[daring marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055862971139629107/1466149969516826816/laugh_at_yoshiki.gif

[fringe venture]

🤣

[ivory barn]

I'm 3019 and 281 and being declined. Seconds later brew joins

[daring marlin]

It's BAER SZN NOW

https://tenor.com/view/hey-you-wave-hi-hello-bear-gif-16590104

[fringe venture]

//rerolling arms

[daring marlin]

Arms owns

[ivory barn]

I'm rerolling assa rogue

[fringe venture]

I'm my guild they told me im crazy if I go arms, that its useless. I told the Guy he obviously dont have one

[ivory barn]

That guild is sus, kinda like mine

How bad is this lfr?

[undone beacon]

HI YAM

[plush tendon]

imagine still thinking arms is bad XD

[ivory barn]

I had to switch to prot to do 10's last night

[round pendant]

hi wife

[undone beacon]

Arms is bad because I find it unfun to play. It’s the same reason why ddh and aug and healing in general = bad

[plush tendon]

well I'd rather do 10s as Prot then arms

unless the tank is playing for me

[ivory barn]

I also found my spell queue window got reset when I reinstalled at the beginning of xpac.

[plush tendon]

and warrior might be the new FoTM in PVP

[ivory barn]

[plush tendon]

Pikaboo was playing warrior last night

I gotta watch the vid, but he was ~~smoking ~~ vaping kids

[undone beacon]

dont smoke, kids

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535052209340153857/1293850759452033094/crackbert.gif

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22479693

[frosty mango]

Kids nowadays are super anti smoking

[plush tendon]

DARE OP

finally worked

[frosty mango]

My daughter is mid gen a and her and all her little friends are all about how gross smoking and vaping is

[undone beacon]

Too many watched their grandparents die of lung cancer or smoking related illnesses

[ivory barn]

I'm glad that shit causes 🤮

[plush tendon]

yea, then they go to college and become "I only smoke when I drink" smokers

[frosty mango]

Nah drinking is on the drop too

Industry found other more insidious ways to hook kids

[plush tendon]

Gen A is still in there tween phase though (I think?)

[undone beacon]

I drank a fair amount in college because I was the bartender friend and would use it as en excuse to hang out with people and host events, but now that I'm older most of the liqour just rots on my shelf

[plush tendon]

I dont drink cause its too damn expensive

[frosty mango]

Kids generate more money today from online engagement and data farming

[plush tendon]

College I could get a pitcher for $4

[frosty mango]

Industry is not stupid

Physical dependency is old hat, we’ve graduated to psychological dependency

[plush tendon]

now If I got out for a drink with friends, a cocktail is like $15-$20

and a beer is like $8-$10

fuck that noise

[undone beacon]

That was the secret, I never went out for drinks I just made them myself because yeah prices are outrageous

[ivory barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480150567268909077/1234524411626000545/image0.gif

[frosty mango]

I’m a bit of a beer snob and the cost of beer has gone up (and will continue to) because most brews have to buy in hops

A 4 pack of good craft beer is like 25 dollars now

Which is insane

Cost of fuel directly impacts anything farming related heavily

[undone beacon]

$16 cocktail that cost no more than $3 worth of ingredients

Plus at home I can craft whatever i feel like

[plush tendon]

My rules for drinking now are A) Drink must be accompanied by food B) Never drink alone C) max spending limit of $20

[frosty mango]

My rules for drinking are just make it a business meeting and put it on my corp Amex

Uno reverse

[undone beacon]

Mine are more or less the same, with the additional caveat of equivalent water to alcohol consumption

[daring marlin]

I don't drink cuz both of my parents are alcoholics. lmao

[frosty mango]

I also live in bumfuck where farm brews are big, three major vertically integrated farm ops nearish me so I can get direct much cheaper

[undone beacon]

Because I had one bad hangover and I will NEVER do that again

[undone beacon]

Fair enough

[daring marlin]

Friends joke and call me a teetotaler

[frosty mango]

Are you between the ages of 28-40, if so I think everyone’s parents are alcoholics in that range

Or at least have an unhealthy relationship with it

[daring marlin]

ye lmfao

[undone beacon]

I'll never put someone down for not wanting to drink or smoke or partake in whatever the group is doing because thats cring

[frosty mango]

Does this happen still?

[undone beacon]

In college it did a lot actually

[frosty mango]

My wife doesn’t drink and it has never been an issue

[plush tendon]

yea, its really not a big deal if someone doesnt wanna drink

[undone beacon]

I watched so many people stop inviting their friends to events because they didnt drink and they didnt want "the vibe to be weird if someone isnt drinking"

[plush tendon]

honestly, preferred

means you got someone capable around

[undone beacon]

Exactly

[harsh trellis]

Having a drink and being a shitty drunk are 2 different things

[undone beacon]

I was friends with a girl who didnt drink but she'd hang out and pour people water and it was fantastic

[ivory barn]

Good ol 10m yt video saying hey this is free, "just head to here and subscribe" like bitch THAT'S NOT FREE

[plush tendon]

I was in a Frat in college; we always designated people to be 'sober' for any event

[harsh trellis]

I dont drink but I have friends who have girlfriends who are just plain old shit ass drunks and makes everything about hanging out bad

[frosty mango]

This is so wild lol

Whenever I do work events it’s mandatory that if you are drinking you are ubering, or I’m not paying

So lots of people don’t drink

[plush tendon]

you dont want to be around a bunch of drinkers; you need the sobers to keep them in line

or if shit hits the fan for someone reason

[warm plinth]

Hi

[undone beacon]

I wasnt in a frat but I know they had their sobers for events, but usually it was a "i was picked to be sober im not sober because i want to be" and they would whine about it the whole time lmao

I think i was also just friends with some shitty people throughout college so

That doesnt help

[frosty mango]

Honestly I think a lot of people are just bad at knowing their limits or holding their booze. I can put down 6-8 beers and still be fine to work/not get out of hand because I also drink water and eat. A lot of my younger folks do not do that, they crush a bunch quickly and get stupid

[plush tendon]

honestly depends on the environment; at least when I went to college, alcohol was becoming super unpopular

[frosty mango]

I’ve had many 8am meetings with young employees explaining how to handle yourself while drinking at work

[undone beacon]

Thats why college is important, its a great place to limit test

[plush tendon]

100% aint no one wants to take care of your dumbass cause you had to prove you can 'drink a bunch'. Have some class and limit yourself

[ivory barn]

So, how are y'all timing defensives for massive pulls?

[undone beacon]

I learned what I can and cannot handle and it hasnt been a problem since

[warm plinth]

I dislike being around people who drink because I dislike them attempting to get into car accidents afterward.

[frosty mango]

Depends on the pull, any specific one in mind?

[frosty mango]

Yea this is why uber is mandatory if I’m paying

[plush tendon]

rememeber not to drink and pull!

[frosty mango]

I’ll pay the uber too

[undone beacon]

Are you trying to deflect from alcohol conversation or is this a legit question lol

[plush tendon]

unless your a brewmaster

[undone beacon]

I learned my limits when i showed up an hour late to a halloween party in a maid outfit, slammed 6 shots of vodka way too fast, and promptly blacked out. Not my proudest moment

[plush tendon]

[warm plinth]

I'm blown away that the legal limit in my country is 0.08% when it's scientifically proven that impairment starts as early as 0.02%. Even commercial drivers are legal til 0.04

[undone beacon]

But hey now i know what hell feels like

[frosty mango]

When you’re Roidburg sized fortunately you get some padding

[frosty mango]

Legal limit should be 0

[plush tendon]

at least you were dressed to clean yourself up

[warm plinth]

100% agree. I also think the penalties should be much more severe and consistent.

[undone beacon]

I am pash sized and also was medicated so there was probably negative padding

[solid sun]

Beer is gross

[frosty mango]

Beer is a spectrum, there’s a beer for everyone

[warm plinth]

I've known multiple people with over 5 DUIs and they were still on the road

[undone beacon]

Driving requirements in general need to be more strict because holy hell

[harsh trellis]

Yep its insane

[solid sun]

Long Island iced teas and margaritas are amazing

[plush tendon]

[undone beacon]

I love driving but I hate other drivers

[frosty mango]

See we could hit you with a nice ice cold gose, you’d be in heaven

[plush tendon]

Have you driven in hell before? Its called Massachusetts

[solid sun]

Yeah we need fewer ancient folks on the road

[warm plinth]

On the incredibly rare occasion I drink, I like adios motherfuckers

[undone beacon]

ok bye damn

[warm plinth]

[plush tendon]

I like it cause its blue

[undone beacon]

[frosty mango]

It’s 2026, uber and Lyft exist, we shouldn’t be tolerant of people who drink and drive

[solid sun]

How do they handle marijuana and driving

[plush tendon]

blue is one of my favorite flavors

[solid sun]

Is there a limit or is it just a field sobriety test

[warm plinth]

I enjoy listening to people butcher the word curacao

[frosty mango]

Dui vs dwi. They’re handled the same in most places

[solid sun]

Cure-a-cow

Great charity

[plush tendon]

Quite frankly, you shouldn't be operating heavy machinery (yes, that includes cars) under the influence of anything or without proper sleep

[frosty mango]

Don’t wanna Rosanne Barr yourself

[undone beacon]

My signature cocktail in college was one I made called a Dewdrop. White rum, ginger liqueur, fresh lime juice, shaken with ice, poured into a martini glass and topped with sprite. lime wedge for garnish

[warm plinth]

Oh I get infuriated since pot became legal in so many places. There are so many people who think it's 100% safe to drive while high. It's actually crazy.

[plush tendon]

idk what that is

[undone beacon]

Super refreshing actually

[ivory barn]

Sorta both lol, but on a two note the first pull of AA and Nexus I seem to over use wall and demo.

What I'd been doing is wall gather, demo mid, wall end

[warm plinth]

They have crazy rationalization for it too

[solid sun]

Have y’all ever done drop shots before. I like those

[frosty mango]

Roseann was a comedian who went on a rager and got on twitter and said a bunch of racist shit and got cancelled. Then she blamed it on lack of sleep and ambien

[warm plinth]

Is that like when you drop a shot into a beer

Always thought that looked disgusting haha

[plush tendon]

brooo, lack of sleep is debilitating. People need to take sleep more serious

its a fucking shame that its glossed over

[frosty mango]

I only sleep 3-4 a night, couldn’t be me

[lusty grotto]

i see, something did change, so i need to look into it - i was thinking it had something to do with ITF (percentage gains do not DR) so I did additional testing on it, but i'll need to check further since it doesn't seem to make a difference, see below.

for future reference: do 1:30 5T for AOE and sim talent comparisons on the same run like so: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e9F991VQ9sRu2phiGwbah1

[plush tendon]

do you operate a full 20 hours straight on 4 hours sleep?

or do you also take a midday nap somewhere

[undone beacon]

The initial wall for gather is super helpful, but by the time you'd need a second wall you should usually have your kit rolling (SB, IP, Phalanx, Demo, etc etc). If you're falling behind you might be messing up the cadence of the pull. DPS may whine but if you need a second to establish yourself before doing more, its better than dying.

[solid sun]

Shot dropped into any mixer. Could be beer, soda, energy drink, whatever

[undone beacon]

alcohol and energy drinks 🤮

[frosty mango]

I sleep 3-4 hours a night and have done that since I was probably 12 or 13. I don’t nap. If I am very sick I will usually sleep more but it’s very rare

[warm plinth]

I was awake 10 hours, then drove 10 hours, helped a gf pack, drove another 10 hours, was up 5 more hours, slept 1 hour, got up to take my mom somewhere, and witnessed Dr. Gregory House step from the side of the road onto my lane, at which point his shoe became the size of the lane, so I had to swerve around it

[frosty mango]

On nexus, I wall once I get full gather. I also play fearless to break the shitty circle which helps a lot

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

[plush tendon]

for first pull in AA this is actually a really good PoV (I know its BDK, but it can work for War)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VMLEoYDnepA

[ivory barn]

The circle?

[severe star]

You might have the really rare condition where you only need 4 hours of sleep

[frosty mango]

Left side there’s the circle the mobs cast that does damage when you move

[warm plinth]

I love my sleep, but normally I'm 6-8 hours. My cat doesn't let me sleep past about 6:45am

[plush tendon]

yea, couldnt be me

at least 8 hours

[frosty mango]

Also don’t discount spell reflect in nxp, just hammer that shit. That dungeon is ass for us

[warm plinth]

And I go to bed 11-12

[plush tendon]

ya boi needs sleep

a midday nap would also be prefferable

[ivory barn]

This is actually huge, thanks

[frosty mango]

It’s very advantageous to only need 3-4 hours of sleep

[warm plinth]

He smacks me in the face repeatedly until I wake up

[plush tendon]

oh 100%

[frosty mango]

I basically have an extra life

[plush tendon]

you get a extra 4-6 hours a day on us other people

I just know that if I tried to copy you, my hours awake would be miserable

[ivory barn]

Is that why damage spikes pulling left first?

[plush tendon]

and not worth

[frosty mango]

Fam goes to bed and then I spend those extra 4-6 hours doing gig work or learning or certs

It has let me advance my career much faster than otherwise I think

[frosty mango]

Yes, and almost all of it is arcane/magic

[plush tendon]

you are adding a extra 28-36 hours a week (literally amost a full time job)

if the lack of sleep isnt affecting you and you can be productive, that is a huge advantage

[daring marlin]

bro has that weird genetic mutation

[undone beacon]

I'm the opposite I sleep too much

[daring marlin]

that said I slept like 11 hours last night, that was weird

I normally sleep 5.5/6

[plush tendon]

I need sleeps

[undone beacon]

I need like a concrete bed so its uncomfy and i wont want to stay in it forever

[plush tendon]

that doesnt work on me; spent so much time camping that hard surfaces feel nice to me now

[frosty mango]

I schedule my day 7-8 kiddo time before school 8-5 work 5-11 dinner fam games 11-3 school/learning/gig

[plush tendon]

[undone beacon]

fuck i used to camp all the time as a kid and i backpack as an adult so yeah that prob wouldnt even work

[frosty mango]

You’d be surprised how much you can cram into your brain with 4 hours a day

[lusty grotto]

i sleep 5-7 hours on weekdays and 10 hours on the weekend 🤷‍♂️

[undone beacon]

Also completely unrelated but im trying to pick a bouquet for mothers day and im torn between these two please advise

[frosty mango]

I’m sure she’d love either one

[plush tendon]

I somehow found a way to get 2 hours of sleep on a tiny ass motor boat when we were going scuba diving

[undone beacon]

She would but they're both so cute and im indecisive

[frosty mango]

Bonus of my wierd state is I can sleep anywhere lol

[ivory barn]

I'm guessing I need to learn arms to go get the PVP illusion?

[plush tendon]

can play arms or fury

[ivory barn]

Solo shuffle?

[plush tendon]

but I think arms is better right now? (it actually might be current FoTM)

yea, you can just que soloshuffle

the only thing you really need to get started are the pvp trinkets

[ivory barn]

I have those from the void zone wqs

[plush tendon]

and conquest gains are super fast, so you can quickly get some new gear

youll also get 9 craft thingys for PVP crafts (can quickly and cheaply make your PVP embellishments or some rings)

[daring marlin]

shoulder day go brrrrr

[plush tendon]

and when you earn 2500 conquest youll get two wep tokens for free

[ivory barn]

O.o we can create pvp gear

[daring marlin]

I wanna pvp for one thing

That sick red sword

[plush tendon]

its a good time for warrior

im terribly at PVP and Im climbing

i did a two shuffles last night, got like 84 rating before bed

[ivory barn]

Highest elo/mmr I've been is 1800 with a lock/rogue

[plush tendon]

but I basically just que and while waiting for que watch invincible

[frosty mango]

I am so bad at PvP. Retail PvP is so painful

[plush tendon]

its feels better then it has

[drowsy comet]

i mean, pvp is just giga ass designed tho

[plush tendon]

I was actually super exicted to PVP this expansion cause of the prune

[ivory barn]

Warrior pvp sounds fun, stun and just kaboom

[frosty mango]

Every class has 9000 cc abilities and the entire game is just “how good am I at avoiding cc so I don’t get burst”

[plush tendon]

and its been super fun

[ivory barn]

Or turn out like this

https://tenor.com/view/warcraft-wow-alliance-anduin-cinematic-gif-10217947

[frosty mango]

PvP is inherently bad in this game because they let tanks PvP

[drowsy comet]

or go rogue and be the biggest pussy ever

[frosty mango]

Can’t balance PvP when you have unkillable gods

[ivory barn]

I got 1800 assa rogue, shit be funny

[drowsy comet]

hide, stabby stabby hehe

[drowsy comet]

respectfully, and without being mean. Ur a bitch

[ivory barn]

Stun lock into full health envenom

[drowsy comet]

[drowsy comet]

so thats why my ass got fried when leveling with warmode...

[daring marlin]

based

[frosty mango]

I play war mode on my mistweaver and like 10 people will attack me and can’t kill me

Which is dumb

[plush tendon]

also, the new world pvp zone was low key fun for a bit

its just a free for all

[frosty mango]

Doesn’t matter how good you are, you should not be able to tank 10 max level chars lol

[plush tendon]

but its a nice change of pace from pushing keys or mythic raid

[ocean smelt]

Good thing you don't have that then because tanks are dogshit in PvP, bring one in an arena and you loose by default

[ivory barn]

Ummm

[plush tendon]

especially if you dont take it that seriously; you just looking to have some fun with friends or by yourself

[ocean smelt]

You're not able to tank 10 max level char unless half of them were actually afk and the other half doesn't have a keyboard

[frosty mango]

Pretty sure we had Druids at the start of this tier trolling people in arena by just running around it dying

[ocean smelt]

Might work for trolling I guess but you'll never see one reach a decent rating

[undone beacon]

I went into warmode when powerleveling my warlock yesterday. At level 87, a level 81 mechangome hunter tried to attack me. I took no pity on him

[frosty mango]

You can 100% survive all kinds of nonsense in world PvP as a healer because of how PvP talents and scaling work, you only need 1-2 free globals and you are back at max health.

In arenas at the start of this season monks had 45s cocoons which made it nigh impossible to burst someone

[undone beacon]

Thats the extent of my pvp for now

[frosty mango]

PvP balance has always been stupid especially when you can have people doing zdps holding games hostage

[undone beacon]

Last season i did rated 2s on my priest as holy with an MM hunter buddy and he helped me get my elite set in like 3 hours

was pretty neat

[ivory barn]

I'm gonna ditch D4 and go get some pvp gear tonight for fury, buy everything but weapons?

[daring marlin]

ur neat

[undone beacon]

[frosty mango]

I wish they’d do separate PvP scaling I think that would be huge

[plush tendon]

yea, dont buy weps until you get free wep tokens

[ocean smelt]

I don't really count world pvp as pvp 😂 but yeah you have some wild things going on there, altho part of it is that many people around you have like 230 ilvl with pve gear, so.. yeah

[plush tendon]

also, side note, tier set for PVP and PVE are the same in terms of stats

[ivory barn]

Vers?

[plush tendon]

so if you have mythic tier, you dont need to buy and convert PVP pieces

[frosty mango]

Yeah but my point is - doesn’t matter if they are 230, it shouldn’t be possible to live with multiple max levels on you

[plush tendon]

only the off piece has guaranteed vers

so if you have a mythic tier helm from PVE, that is the same as a PVP tier helm

I think for arms we only run 2 piece so you wear helm+glove tier and buy PVP chest, legs and shoulders

and for fury its 4 set and you buy PVP chest

[ocean smelt]

You'll be able to rekt them with any spec tho if the ilvl difference is big enough, it's not really a tank debate anymore

[carmine frigate]

Anyone know macro for stance dancing

[toxic pewter]

it's in the pins iirc

[undone beacon]

^

[carmine frigate]

The pins always the pins!

I see it. Ty

[drowsy comet]

!pins

oh

[undone beacon]

[drowsy comet]

bad server, !pins without pins

smh

[lusty grotto]

??

[ionic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[undone beacon]

bot commands are for the weak

every response here is pure human spirit

[lusty grotto]

yeah clankers go away

[drowsy comet]

!nimship

ah fuck

omg nvm

[undone beacon]

Also i learned today that Preferential Killing from Astalor doesnt give you a champ gear box :(

[drowsy comet]

now imagine a video popped up with a funny ship meme

[jagged pier]

imagine wanting clankers to do somthing

[frosty mango]

Hey I build Clankers, makes me lots of money

[daring marlin]

yeet all clankers into the sun

[warm plinth]

I read this as pure human shit and it's still correct

[ivory barn]

[undone beacon]

Gaming

[ivory barn]

Time to go get 1800 in a weekend

[undone beacon]

too bad the warr 1800 set is uggo

[ivory barn]

Whelp, was it the illusion requirement?

[undone beacon]

1950

iirc

1800 is the full elite set

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/wakko-warner-mr-director-wakko-animaniacs-smash-gif-21624348

Well, at least it's not the full 2100 I suppose

Raiding doesn't get my warrior anything unless it's mythic so I wanted something else to accomplish

2k pvp rating it is

[quick obsidian]

Would you guys say there is a key level, that the differences between colossus and Mtn. Thane start to widen?

[lusty grotto]

theres only 1 difference

dps

and its on every key level

gameplay-wise Colossus always has a harder time gathering and setting up pulls, so that could also be factored in

but its also present in any key level

[quick obsidian]

Thank you!

[harsh trellis]

I am using this build for skyreach, is there anything that could be changed on it just for this key on a 16?

[crisp ocean]

is there something I can do to auto attack something, sometimes it says theres nothing to attack

[lusty grotto]

piercing

not fear

[jagged pier]

nah fear in skyreach

[lusty grotto]

you howl, you take 2 steps back, you reset talons

[jagged pier]

u intim

take a step back

and reset

[lusty grotto]

well sure either work, but i prefer howl

i run howl on NPX too

makes resetting stacks easy

also for battleaxees in AA

but yeah we got more than enough tools to deal with those without piercing

its just a comfy pick

[plush tendon]

I feel like rhino right now, at a construction site, but instead of a lovely house it’s a dark and depressing apartment hallway

[vocal junco]

I’m starting to see left side first routes pop up in keystone guru for AA. Are these a meme or generally irrelevant for 15+?

[plush tendon]

It was something done in DF

[harsh trellis]

ok, ill change that up. We just missed the timer by a minute from stupid dps deaths but I wanted to make sure I wasn't running some scuffed build.

[plush tendon]

Prob don’t intend to pull the whole tree boss room at once

[vocal junco]

It seems logical as Veximus is trouble for pugs. Yea the tree boss room is split pulls. 1 lasher with both skiterfly packs to chain into the other two lashers.

[harsh trellis]

In AA, I do not pull 2 sets of bugs. I only pull 1 set. You also have to side strafe that first pull if you pull the lashers... if you try to heroic leap through them, you will get back shot all day.

[lusty grotto]

left side is just a remnant of previous AA seasons

overlap does not happen on Vex anymore

there's not a huge gain by burning lust there and then doing the entire dungeon and wiping on the lasher pull

but entirely up to you

just doesn't make a lot of sense to me other than trying it for the sake of trying

Vex is super scripted now

it was a problem in both DF seasons only because overlaps

🤷‍♂️

[vocal junco]

Thanks for info share! I’ll keep treading with the modern routes

[frosty mango]

Aws east is on fire. Gonna be a fun day

[daring marlin]

It's crazy to me how consistent Vex is now lol

That boss used to be giga ass

[lament forge]

What dungeon should we be coining for new prot toons, no mythic pieces yet

[daring marlin]

AA or Skyreach are good candidates

[lusty grotto]

probably AA

[daring marlin]

1h/shield in both

[lament forge]

Rgr ty

[lusty grotto]

but droptimizer is your friend

after you get weapons

[harsh trellis]

I wish we could craft 285 items if we already crafted and equipped 2 285 (1hs and shield)

without myth crests

[undone beacon]

I went to reclear mythic vault for some mogs and uh

Neat

[toxic pewter]

lol wow

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/xzibit-heart-locket-my-beloved-gif-26391496

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/pregnant-mario-heart-locket-pargent-merbia-pregante-pregnant-gif-21303110

[lusty grotto]

lol

[cerulean tusk]

"loot is random"

[lusty grotto]

pergent

[undone beacon]

am i... gregante?

also why the fuck am i assigned a training in workday that says it will take 16 hours

and its due in a week

excuse me

[ivory barn]

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/sa-skull-and-bone-skull-and-bone-star-atlas-pirate-sa-pirate-gif-26033660

[lusty grotto]

ah yes, workday

[harsh trellis]

Pieces of eight font

[ivory barn]

I'm gonna learn pvp now

[drowsy comet]

man why does the german wow community suck so hard bruh, imagine being over 35, unemployed, play the whole day without being productive, and act like the biggest winner lmao

wow in general is just..

[maiden ravine]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/tank-adjustments-incoming-may-12-2303865

[lusty grotto]

[fringe mural]

uuuh

[lusty grotto]

i mean the phalanx buff is good

[ivory barn]

Oh really

[lusty grotto]

IP is whatever

fttf is 67

i know gen z speak

[fringe mural]

phalanx

Is ment for the 1/4 bros

😄

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-mad-im-cool-calm-down-relax-gif-9407234

[maiden ravine]

its buffs to all tanks but bear and monk

[lusty grotto]

prot pally got real love

[ivory barn]

I saw that talent build and about puked

[lusty grotto]

ngl

[frosty mango]

Workday, found ur problem

[fringe mural]

all the 1/4 bois gonna cry

[ivory barn]

Did bear or monk get

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[fringe mural]

I guess it's finally time to get pala to 90

[frosty mango]

No

[lusty grotto]

that depends on the meta and top keys

[fringe mural]

next week is tw week too

[frosty mango]

But these are at least meaningful changes

[fringe mural]

so quicker to level

[solid sun]

Took too long

[ivory barn]

Maybe I'll push to 3400 now

[timid tapir]

feel like IP buff should be bigger

[solid sun]

Why

[toxic pewter]

would of liked to see the blue text: "Ignore Pain removed"

[ivory barn]

IP is a clown button

[wooden spruce]

on cds, outside that still a cracker getting folded

[lusty grotto]

no

buff what matters, not IP

[fringe mural]

ip buff is like a free field medic

[ivory barn]

You buff IP you get the EN warrior

[fringe mural]

So not great

[toxic pewter]

we basically got a 3% dr buff the rest is nothing

[feral gulch]

i think they should buff our damage by 100%

[blazing shuttle]

I like tve phalanx buff.

[lusty grotto]

yes

its decent

[solid sun]

APB spitting facts

[fringe mural]

Blizzard seems to know warriors are actually good

[solid sun]

But we were pretty stout already

[blazing shuttle]

Now buff colossus.

[fringe mural]

the monk fanboys just don't know

[toxic pewter]

they just buffed colossus lol

[ivory barn]

The 1/4 phalanx people will stop finally

[blazing shuttle]

Not enough.

[fringe mural]

No they won't

[toxic pewter]

colossus wont be touched for next 6-12 months

[blazing shuttle]

Lies

[fringe mural]

they will argue they won't hit stuff with phalanx anyways

[undone beacon]

16 hour workday training on OpenText

[fringe mural]

because they shield slam into open space always

[ivory barn]

Ouch

[solid sun]

Just close the text

Then you can’t see it

[lusty grotto]

the graphic doesnt mean phalanx doesnt hit

it does hit

if they slam, they will land phalanx

[dusky canopy]

Your mom hits

[fringe mural]

i know, i was joking

[lusty grotto]

[fringe mural]

of course they'll hit

[coarse bay]

[toxic pewter]

prot pala inc new meta tank calling it now

[solid sun]

Hit me

[dusky canopy]

[undone beacon]

inb4 pepega comes in with a steel chair labeled "BLIZZ WHERE ARE BEAR NERFS"

[toxic pewter]

:nodders:

[solid sun]

“What’s the new prio guide for how to press IP”

-Pepega in 6 minutes

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[lusty grotto]

[coarse bay]

!tierlist

[undone beacon]

!bearnerfs

[solid sun]

And then yogi is going to ask why we got more tuning but nothing for lumber

[slender bison]

!phalanx_frontals

[dusky canopy]

!wowheadprio

[undone beacon]

!1/4apex

[peak iron]

i just know yoda popped some wood when he saw those prot pally buffs

[solid sun]

!herotalents

[cold pilot]

I love bufffssss

[peak iron]

real talk tho was anyone even playing FttF before this? is it worth using now?

[jagged pier]

it was worth in some dungeons

[urban vortex]

Some people were using it on NPX

[jagged pier]

and makes more worth in those dungeons

[lusty grotto]

fttf is a good trade in some dungeons and fights

traded with armor spec

[ivory barn]

@ pepega

[fringe mural]

He will tell us how doom is the superior game

[jagged pier]

but its never a always lock in

[slender bison]

NPX left wing is warrior floor inspection, its decent there

[lusty grotto]

no

npx is armor spec land

[fringe mural]

Npx is last stand land

[solid sun]

Fttf is clearly for dungeons with fire damage

[lusty grotto]

physical damage has the most percentage in the whole dungeon

[solid sun]

Seems obvious

[ivory barn]

Is there ever a world we could take both?

[fringe mural]

yes

[lusty grotto]

no

[slender bison]

yes, !1/4_apex

[fringe mural]

Drop TaN 😄

[opaque oriole]

What does ignore pain effectiveness mean? Cap or per cast?

[lusty grotto]

per cast

as always

[opaque oriole]

So negible

[lusty grotto]

it does help, but nothing really changes

its not anywhere near massive

[cerulean tusk]

1/4 gang did it

[undone beacon]

Wait what da heck. The talent is called Fight Through The Flames but the bluepost says Fight Through Flames... new talent?!?!

[slender bison]

since execute is a meme, you still press IP as now for AMmaxxing

[lusty grotto]

vdh has a duped line too

claude getting overworked

[wooden spruce]

:v

[fringe mural]

Yeah blizz was so pissed people didn't take their apex talents

[lusty grotto]

yeah, just blizz

not mice

or rats

[cerulean tusk]

Cats win again

[lusty grotto]

/s

[cold pilot]

Dude druids are ridic right now with their fucking 3 button rotation doing the second most dps and not using apex

Lunar beam, thrash, moonfire x 3, thrash, moonfire x 3, thrash, moonfire x 3, repeat

[solid sun]

Who cares

They sucked before

Let em have fun

[lusty grotto]

they'll get nerfed

no need to sweat it

[pastel summit]

YOOO PROT GANGGGG

[fringe mural]

They didn't suck, they just weren't lolmonks

[pastel summit]

still need more dmg but maybe bear gets euthanized next week

[cold pilot]

Oh im not complaining, I just think it was a weird change to bring them more in line with brew

[pastel summit]

6Nah.

[slender bison]

I think they are doing AI slop balancing intentionally so people level to 90 more tanks the hard way

[sand condor]

eyy

buffs!

[pastel summit]

They did the most dmg it was just loaded into carn.

[lusty grotto]

thats not why they got changes

brew is not a factor in the equation

[fringe mural]

they lost aggro

In keys

because trash was trash

[pastel summit]

Yeah thus the change but thats something that can be adjusted around

bear going off like a neutron bomb every 2 mins and doing more dmg than most uncapped dps wasn't really their vision for the spec i feel

[solid sun]

Maybe it should be

Nobody likes dps players anyways

[pastel summit]

i feel like bear should be brew where its just massively tanky

[harsh trellis]

Oh you got the elevator eyes training session.

[slender bison]

Maybe bear is just 1st iteration of a world where tanks do 80% of the last DPS in keys ( AI told me this )

[pastel summit]

feels weird to be in bear form and randomly splat sometimes

eh i think current bear doing high dmg is fun

[fringe mural]

what was so strong about incarn?

[solid sun]

Why is that weird

[pastel summit]

you'd raze

[fringe mural]

i didn't really follow that

[pastel summit]

and hit a pack for 5 million

[solid sun]

Blood DK’s wear full plate and sometimes they go splat

[pastel summit]

echo of raze was just all your dmg

[fringe mural]

oh

[undone beacon]

Incarn with Apex causes your Maul/Raze/Ravage to echo

[pastel summit]

which is whatr i meant by imbalanced damage

[undone beacon]

For like 400% damage

[fringe mural]

fuck

[pastel summit]

they did a lot of dmg but it was allocated into 2 globals in carn

[cold pilot]

I think a class that has the ability to play all 4 specs shouldn't be close to the top of any of those specs, personal opinion hot take

[pastel summit]

so you'd pull the entire room press box carn potion do 1.5m dps

[undone beacon]

So esp in DotC you'd pop carn, slam a Ravage, and let your echoes do a billion dps

And you could do it twice per carn

[pastel summit]

dated mindset tbh

[alpine forum]

Holy prot pals buffs wtf. We eating bread while they eat lobster. Time to close the discord? /s

[pastel summit]

i do think most people should play their specs tho instead of just 1 but

[harsh trellis]

fer real

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[lusty grotto]

dont forget, pop incarn before pull, hold echoes, incarn resets, pop echos->incarn->echos

[pastel summit]

you dont really go from resto to bear to feral

as thats 3 roles

so realistically people arent doin that

esp if u raid etc

[undone beacon]

They fixed that iirc, incarn no longer stays when you start a key

[lusty grotto]

im aware

[pastel summit]

when

it worked yesterday

[lusty grotto]

but its the reason for the changes

[pastel summit]

[lusty grotto]

it most def didnt

[fringe mural]

Because of the extreme first pulls?

[spiral jetty]

they've handled bear tuning so poorly from the start of prepatch

[fringe mural]

where you lust and echo

[spiral jetty]

now they're at the point where they just spam thrash and moonfire, doesn't seem like good design

[pastel summit]

pardon

are u sayin u cant precarn in keys

[lusty grotto]

thats not what im saying no

[compact silo]

when farming crests is the max amount you get capped at a +10 or above?

[lusty grotto]

echoes reset after key starts

so you cant hold it

it didnt used to reset

[naive ravine]

you can pre incarn but not pre wild guardian

[fringe mural]

+12 afaik

[lusty grotto]

yep

echoes = wild guardian

[naive ravine]

(Apex from bear)

[pastel summit]

gotcha

[spiral jetty]

now they aren't even using apex lol

[pastel summit]

wonder if 4pc even worth having on bear now

[spiral jetty]

nope

[pastel summit]

seems useless

[fluid widget]

Didn’t warrior need more offensive tuning than defensive?

[toxic pewter]

lol

we just got our offensive tuning

[fringe mural]

we need a stronger ip and heroic strike again

[slender bison]

its still interesting that they refuse to drop the Keybreaker (Spellbreaker) talents we got 8 months ago which nobody uses

Hope for .1 patch

[toxic pewter]

they need to remove ip

[fringe mural]

so we can decide where to dump rage into

Offense or defense

now it's just ip

No matter what

[cerulean tusk]

What if, it was a passive 10% Magic DR, with a 50% chance to reduce the damage by 50%

[undone beacon]

I went to double check, and from the bears:
"Their change is that if you incarn, you lose the ability to press WiGu after key starts"
So you can Incarn + WiGu before the key and keep the empowered ability buff, and incarn's CD is reset. But if you just hit Incarn and then start the key, it resets back to incarn and you cant hit WiGU until you incarn again

Which, is irrelevant anyways right now because no apex

[fringe mural]

They don't take apex anymore?

and pump it all into trash/mf?

[naive ravine]

Thats not how it works

[slender bison]

Casino tanking still sucks. See VDH. It will remain there until they reshift stuff. I'm just grateful we have Wrecking Throw as a range silence this expansion

[naive ravine]

b4 you pressed incarn and wild guardian

[cerulean tusk]

sec

[naive ravine]

and kept the buffs of apex till u use them and got another incar + apex

Now you lose the Apex on key start

[undone beacon]

Thats not what i was just told

by the bear discord

[clear pawn]

Absolutely! I love wt to death.

[blazing shuttle]

They won’t get one shot anymore

They kinda needed it ngl

[undone beacon]

what does level 4 mean

[cerulean tusk]

Higher than level 3

[toxic pewter]

lol

whoa they got levels over there

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[toxic pewter]

i want level..

[hexed moth]

How good our changes

[clear pawn]

Happy to see a little magic dr and overall dr coming to prot. I like warrior tanking way more than monk. I feel like I can control mobs and casters way better.

[lusty grotto]

bro unless they make an ogcd offensive spender, thats not gonna change, buffing IP wont change it, and OG HS wasn't ogcd, it was on-next-melee-hit

[sharp gale]

I want to grind too

[lusty grotto]

wont make a change in low keys

none of these changes will save you from missplays

[fringe mural]

yeah i ment a real ocg offensive spender

[clear pawn]

The cdr on demolish is crazy right now. Gonna run some keys as collosus later.

[lusty grotto]

now?

[hexed moth]

Was hoping to increase magic damage reduce in spell reflect

[pastel summit]

ya rune wep nerfed then made into a proc is rancid

[slender bison]

Guys, where is Ignore Pain in our talents? Should I spec Colossus for 3.5k?

[lusty grotto]

why the focus on colossus

even the meme

colossus is hard down

[clear pawn]

xD

[lusty grotto]

after this week

[cerulean tusk]

Preach

[sharp gale]

Tbf I like blood apex

[pastel summit]

[sharp gale]

Even if it is aids to tune blood around it

[lusty grotto]

why are you level 1

[fringe mural]

he's really tiny

[raven light]

is it possible to check in logs how much rage Bloodsurge generated during a dungeon?

[ivory barn]

[cerulean tusk]

nice bait, editer

[sharp gale]

Not really a bait

[lusty grotto]

yes?

[opal ledge]

yes it is, its usually around 8% if i remember

[lusty grotto]

its under resources like everything else

[raven light]

ty

[opal ledge]

warrior buffs are the worst one

[fringe mural]

i mean

[sharp gale]

^

[fringe mural]

At least there are buffs

[raven light]

would be better if damage reduction was still on our first apex talent point xD

[fringe mural]

NO

[lusty grotto]

fuck no

[sharp gale]

No

[undone beacon]

not at all

[opal ledge]

if they buffed the other 5 tanks, we are even more behind

[fringe mural]

that was good bait

[pastel summit]

Spec would own if we could take more stuff.

Too few pointos.

[undone beacon]

Spec would own if they removed execute and execute package and gave us a banner package

[hearty sigil]

They're not touching Bear so that's good for them

[sharp gale]

Spec owns rn

[fringe mural]

we can take 2% more fire talons

[pastel summit]

Execute should hit considerably harder considering it requires points and eats our defensive resource.

[hearty sigil]

the IP buff is all i care about. make it feel good

[fringe mural]

with fttf buff

[pastel summit]

Ehhh. Their dmg is egregious enough to get thrash nerfs I feel.

Maybe not though.

[fringe mural]

the ip buff is weaker than field medic wtf

[undone beacon]

Slamming big cleave sexecutes last season was fun in keys

[harsh trellis]

I'll take anything at this point

[pastel summit]

Just wish more stuff was baseline.

Like alacrity and vigor if nothing else.

[harsh trellis]

give us shuffle also

shuffle and IP

[ivory barn]

I wish we had a few talents baseline

[lusty grotto]

you make it seem as if we're fucking dead

[undone beacon]

something something mop talents

[lusty grotto]

and desperate for changes

[opal ledge]

guys, go on the post on the forum, and complain.
it helps, seriously

[lusty grotto]

we're absolutely not

[harsh trellis]

Its not dead but it certainly hurts going from 15s to 16s

so anything is better than nothin

[hearty sigil]

I have no reason to complain lol. we're in a good spot imo

[lusty grotto]

uhhh... no

[harsh trellis]

Like NPX is just ass

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

i aint a bitch

[lusty grotto]

skill issue

[harsh trellis]

15nps is fine 16 npx dong the same pulls is just dogshit

[sharp gale]

[jagged pier]

i played warrior when ip was on the gcd

[hearty sigil]

you take Fight through the Flames in NPX so the buff will help

[lusty grotto]

no, you dont

NPX is physical damage land

[narrow ether]

im just amazed at the damage intake in AA compared to the other keys as warrior

[opal ledge]

the hardest part is getting no group invite because you are a warrior to be honest

[jagged pier]

welcome to magic melees

[narrow ether]

got destroyed by 2 axes on +18 lol

[lusty grotto]

AA has a battle axe problem

[hearty sigil]

NPX is a shit ton of magic

[harsh trellis]

Magic on the left side

[lusty grotto]

go through the log again

and tlel me

how does magic damage beat physical

[sharp gale]

I find it fine even as dps, maybe it’s a NA server thing

[lusty grotto]

ill wait

[harsh trellis]

everything else from the right side to the end boss is not that bad in NPX

[hearty sigil]

people pull less on the left side

[lusty grotto]

ill wait

[harsh trellis]

theres 1 big pull on the left side and its just from the start

[lusty grotto]

[pastel summit]

axes beat ass

[hearty sigil]

they pull everything (or most of it) on the right side.

[fringe mural]

will fttf and apex buff help with axes?

[pastel summit]

so do lasher and bird bleeds to lesser degree

[lusty grotto]

kind of

[pastel summit]

i mean its all magic dr

as well as phys so

[sharp gale]

Which one ? I’ve seen so many route linked where the first big pull is just auto deplete pull

[pastel summit]

axes still gonna beat u within an inch of your life

while somebody tells you to pull more cos axes dont have mechanics

[narrow ether]

honestly NPX left side the scary thing is the heal absorbs, nothing else

[lusty grotto]

you dont even need magic DR for the heal absorbs

just manage them

[narrow ether]

right side is accidentally getting double nullwark blast from pulling too much shit at once lol

[lusty grotto]

just like you do fiery talons

literally the same wway

[harsh trellis]

I dunno, I just always pull this.

[pastel summit]

dr doesnt affect the necrotic tho does it

defenders can be scary but more dr wont fix that

[lusty grotto]

and i do this

[sharp gale]

Yeah it is fine, I’ve seen tanks pulling the packs on top with all that

[lusty grotto]

whats your point Nav?

[winged zenith]

So we back in meta?

[lusty grotto]

either way again: NPX is not an ITTF dungeon

[harsh trellis]

lol what are you spazzing out about?

[narrow ether]

umbral lash + void lash pretty rough during right side boss fight though lol

[undone beacon]

The state of bear discord rn

[sharp gale]

Separate discussion, I just asked what he do as first pull nim

[harsh trellis]

Nim spazzes out a lot

[hearty sigil]

Nim is pissed lol

[lusty grotto]

i do, because youre desperate for buffs without reason

"ill take anything at this point", what the fuck

[sharp gale]

Manner of speech

No big deal

[harsh trellis]

I think you have a reading comprehension issue or try to keep up with too much in chat

[winged zenith]

We back in meta or what

This changes seems so small

[lusty grotto]

go back to your hole

[ivory barn]

Close it like the pally discord did to rets

[winged zenith]

Dafuq

[lament osprey]

What’s the tldr of buffs

[velvet knot]

how we doin today fellas

[lusty grotto]

the tldr is that its a slight defensive increase

[lament osprey]

Lame

[lusty grotto]

and that 1/4 is even more banned than before

[velvet knot]

buffs?

[lusty grotto]

i will rain fury and fire on anyone that asks about that dogshit build now

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496228825682415767/picmix.com_13676758.gif

[lusty grotto]

ty pash

[ivory barn]

I just picture this to anyone playing that

[sharp gale]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-smack-butt-bad-boy-naughty-boy-discipline-gif-15693549

[lusty grotto]

rest in piss dpsdmg

[velvet knot]

what are buffs

nim gimme the t

[lusty grotto]

they're on wowhead

[velvet knot]

yeah but you're right here

[sharp gale]

#updates-midnight

[velvet knot]

ty useful person

[undone beacon]

2% more dr from FttF, 3% more dr from Phalanx, IP is 8% more effective