protection

[ivory barn]

I had a 67% chance this week and lost

[mighty valley]

world of warcraft players will do anything to avoid playing world of warcraft

[ivory barn]

the neck outta pit

[sharp gale]

Gambling addiction ticking, I need to take 6 tokens in great vault to roll 1 more time and it’s 10% chance

[plush tendon]

then its a matter of how risk averse you are

[lusty grotto]

this is the basest comment ive read this week

[plush tendon]

personally, im bonus rolling the dungeon where I have the highest chance of a upgrade

[undone beacon]

All i know is that once i get my lock to 90 i can immediately clear out the WRS loot pool and get two very strong trinkets and a bunch of nice myth pieces

[daring marlin]

true and real

[undone beacon]

we hate this game

[daring marlin]

I will tank all of the WS for you

[undone beacon]

[plush tendon]

idk, I think its kind of fun

[sharp gale]

Last week I did calculate my odds of rolling both nexus ring with my 2 rolls

[ivory barn]

Did you get?

[sharp gale]

I got 1 and 1 this week

Then I proceed to roll once in seat

VOIDCLAW

[ivory barn]

What stats are the seat gloves?

[harsh trellis]

Im going for gloves in seat this week, they should drop

[sharp gale]

I rolled on the ground of my room so happy I am

[undone beacon]

i just got seat gloves in vault :3

[harsh trellis]

Aww lucky

[lusty grotto]

i flipped a coin just now to calculate the odds of getting gaze today

[daring marlin]

my back is wide af

[lusty grotto]

i dont know what it landed on

[sharp gale]

Im full myth now, I finished the game

[daring marlin]

gat dayum

[ivory barn]

I wish the loot in vault for M+ was based on the dungeon runs that week

[lusty grotto]

no, you dont want that

it would impact negatively the group finder

[ivory barn]

I ran only Nexus one week just for rings

[plush tendon]

thats gonna be me next week

[sharp gale]

In SL I did only plaguefall for a full week bc I believed it

[plush tendon]

gonna have to run Nexus 2-3 times

[toxic pewter]

now you can finally play the game

[blazing shuttle]

I have never felt more stupid the moment I've understood how you could SR the last boss of Seat.
Fuck my life.

[ivory barn]

I've ran so many nexus I have the route in my sleep

[nova gorge]

For Mythic Crown has anyone gone Demiar -> Vorelus -> Morium in P1? Since Pwar can SR all of the Dark Hands, seems less scary for us (w/ the damage amp).

[sharp gale]

My monk caught up my war in ilvl bc myth crest achiev lel

[undone beacon]

Vault should just give you titan residiuum and veiled argunite and you combine them with some anima and bam you get a piece of gear

[lusty grotto]

just the last boss?

[blazing shuttle]

Do you dream about it?

[lusty grotto]

seat is the SR dungeon

this season

[blazing shuttle]

Oh no. Not just the last boss.

But.

[toxic pewter]

alt gearing is wild lol

[blazing shuttle]

I realised WHAT the timinig was on the last boss.

[lusty grotto]

whew

[blazing shuttle]

Oh no no no.

I fucking love SR on Seat.

Just the first boss.

[sharp gale]

And : using crests on monk reduce remaining slots of war

[blazing shuttle]

2M damages just by pressing SR.

Outskilled.

[lusty grotto]

dont forget 3rd boss and war-adepts

[blazing shuttle]

Yep, I got the timing right with the DPS.

[cursive hemlock]

Mind blast Sr is actually so based

[blazing shuttle]

Also wait, the war-adepts?

[lusty grotto]

void bash

the knock

[blazing shuttle]

Wait.

What.

Nervous laughter.

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/family-guy-brian-griffin-QeY--k01KQZ6WST8RP7AV36SEQCD90DK

[blazing shuttle]

Hold on.

[undone beacon]

[opaque oriole]

Can you increase the cap of ignore pain with stats?

[blazing shuttle]

Please don't judge me too harshly..

[undone beacon]

Void Bash from Umbral War Adepts

[lusty grotto]

yes, with stam

[undone beacon]

If you SR, no knock, big dam

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah IU just checked.

.. Fuck my life.

[sharp gale]

I think next week I’m 288 ilvl

[opaque oriole]

So vers and mastery only increases the amount per cast but you still cap at x% of health?

[undone beacon]

You have a flair for the dramatic Ash lolol

Now you know

[blazing shuttle]

I feel stupid because.

I feel like I should have known that.

[undone beacon]

Not everything is super apparent. Thats why we share knowledge here

[blazing shuttle]

True enough.

[lusty grotto]

and AP = strenght, weapon ilvl, etc, but yes and its 30% of total health

[blazing shuttle]

But yes, I'll keep it in mind. Might make runs even smoother.

... If it is possible.

[undone beacon]

[opaque oriole]

Haven’t pushed high keys yet, but do you ever cap it at 30% or is it just moving around not close to 30% all the time?

[lusty grotto]

you dont gear for it

it is just a rage dump after all

obligatory read me: #protection message

[undone beacon]

If you play pwarr correctly, IP self-manages

[opaque oriole]

Wasn’t it good in previous expansions?

[lusty grotto]

no

we've used it the same way since its inception, even as shield barrier

there's never been any case where IP was anywhere near as close to SB's importance

SB is our bread and butter, and the only thing we care about

[undone beacon]

What if they made IP work like bombsuit and everytime it was depleted it went boom and did a lil explosion

[mighty valley]

the total effect of IP does add up to a lot, but each individual press does not provide much at all, which is why panic-mashing it and eating all your rage just ends up killing you

[sharp gale]

I never played a pwar where revenge spend is enough to not rage cap

Now that I think about it

[lusty grotto]

its because revenge is gcd

you're hard limited

specifically by the gcd

so anything that generates rage outside of gcd presses, will eventually cap you out

[sharp gale]

Maybe TWW with that revenge cost increase talent as colossus

[lusty grotto]

nah

[sharp gale]

Which was never taken

[lusty grotto]

cause you had parries and free revenges

[opaque oriole]

So effectively only to avoid capping rage and to increase CDR and and SS buff

[jagged gust]

S1/early S2 Colo definitely had me straddling the rage line

[lusty grotto]

correct, until you get to a point that you actually need to micromanage it for damage intake, which is very high in the key ladder

[mighty valley]

back then our burst rage from CDs was also massive and you were never spending that with pure revenges

[ivory barn]

[jagged gust]

That sounds amazing ngl

that could be a tier set

[sharp gale]

Yeah but it is mostly bc revenge>clap until low rage

[mighty valley]

it sounds funny but i really don't want to have to micromanage IP that much lol

[lusty grotto]

there's not that many cases if at all

[mighty valley]

"let it drop... then recast a fraction of a second later"

[jagged gust]

prot would get better the higher keys you do

insta ip burn boom

rolls off the tongue

[lusty grotto]

most of the big damage comes from managing stacks

[ivory barn]

That's like attaching damage to shield wall

[lusty grotto]

and battle axes, which are the other notable one

if you kite

[mighty valley]

we had this

[lusty grotto]

you generate 0 rage

[jagged gust]

What if we had a talent that cast avatar when shield wall

[lusty grotto]

so IP is very sus to micromanage them

the only notable case that i remember

[sharp gale]

A leggo that cast bladestorm when avatar

[lusty grotto]

is MFO, saladbar solo soaks

recent notable case

[glad temple]

Yo thanks for this explanation

[ivory barn]

Brain rot ensued when getting to make warrior better

[undone beacon]

Thorns Muscles of Iron: Casting IP deals low physical damage to nearby enemies based on how much damage it can absorb

[toxic pewter]

XD

[sharp gale]

I member when brew had that with purifying brew

[carmine frigate]

Anyone know what these little orbs that pop up on my screen are? They appeare for a few seconds when I start combat

No UI addons

[sharp gale]

I had that a random day too

[lusty grotto]

like realistically speaking, IP does help on every tick of the two notable dots: fiery talon and vile bite - but whats more important for those two are managing stacks, straight up DR (wall, demo, punish, feet on the ground, apex 4/4)

[sharp gale]

I reloaded and it got away

[ivory barn]

Ummm if it's base blizzard good luck. Only use case would be /fstack and hover over one

Or /editmode and see if a box pops around them

[sharp gale]

It doesn’t appear in edit mode

I had it a random day on my ww monk

[carmine frigate]

F

[sharp gale]

I reloaded the game and it disappeared

[lusty grotto]

every time i see an ignore pain bar i die

[ivory barn]

[carmine frigate]

Did you die because ignore pain fell off?

Should monitor it better

[ivory barn]

This is why mine is a tiny ass icon

[sharp gale]

Me is every time I see rampage on the cdm

[lusty grotto]

no thanks

i dont die to IP falling off

i die because the sillyness is enough to overcome my DR and SB which are massively superior

and the thought that "ip will surely prevent me dying, lul"

[undone beacon]

u die cuz u pull tooooo big in an 11 npx

smh

[lusty grotto]

if you get shanked in the brain in RL and you ignore the pain, do you die?

[lament osprey]

I die cause plague hits

[lusty grotto]

because im pretty fucking sure you do

[ivory barn]

IP = crutches

[daring marlin]

NO SELF HEALS!!!!!! UR SQUISHY

[ornate palm]

I believe the general rule of thumb is: If you died because IP fell off, you died because of something else.

[undone beacon]

zero self healing

[lusty grotto]

💯

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[ivory barn]

Like taking 6 lasher stacks to the face 😭

[lusty grotto]

uhh

bro if you take 6 vile bites, i hate to say it, but that key was dead before starting

thats 2 casts each, that pull took way too goddamn long

[ivory barn]

Most I've taken in an AA was 5 and barely ranged the 6th

[lusty grotto]

dead before starting

0 prio targetting

[ivory barn]

I have a 14AA this week and I'm like.... Do we limit test it

[lusty grotto]

all yolo padding

no lashers dead asap

yeah....

writing is on the wall

[ornate palm]

If your DPS team isn’t aware of/capable of deleting a lasher in the first few seconds of that pull, y’all probably ain’t gonna make that key.

[lusty grotto]

yes, thats what i just said

[abstract arch]

In my experience dps just facemashes aoe there

[ivory barn]

We still some how chested it

[stoic hound]

I got heroic trinket from vorasius and mythic heart from windspire.
The sim says heroic outperforms mythic.
On bloodmallet even 298 mythic heart is 6.81% and standard heroic heart is 6.7% (and heroic can be upgraded even more within 3 weeks)

So everything says for heroic trinket, should I just do it? It is a bit akward to pick heroic over pre-bis mythic trinket:(

[abstract arch]

Ive stopped trying high aa keys

[lusty grotto]

too low of a key

can just beat timer with gear

[ivory barn]

+10

[lusty grotto]

case in point

[ivory barn]

I just want 120io for 3k

[ornate palm]

I no fast like good DPS, only tank, only zug.

[ionic fern]

Done.

[south goblet]

i mean at the end of the day that only calcs dps, but your a tank so will more crit or more haste make you live better

[stoic hound]

haste I guess

[lusty grotto]

uhh

the sim says scrit

you gain dps in the sim from crit?

you gain defensiveness at the same rate

in the form of parry

[south goblet]

true and you get a missive indicater when its active so you know your parrying better

[lusty grotto]

also

On bloodmallet
bloodmallet sims with templates, not your specific gear

[south goblet]

and your probs at your haste benifit limit for shild block

[ivory barn]

Good luck reaching that right now, SB limit

[lusty grotto]

that being said, if youre not gonna use bonus rolls on WRS

and do not myth raid

just pick up the HoW

or alternatively, pick up the heart and send bonus rolls on WRS for it

🙂

[stoic hound]

I do not raid at all yet with my fps in raids from laptop, after nexus I gonna use coins in seat, so windspire would be 3rd in queue for me

[lusty grotto]

then just get it from the vault

those are bonus rolls you will save

[south goblet]

i mean you can hit the like 30% haste sb break point and i think the next one is at what 40 ish. which isnt happening so at that point just go crit/vers

[south goblet]

do you have enough haste to hit your sb mins

[lusty grotto]

there's no such thing as an "SB break point"

[stoic hound]

1106 without flask, so I guess yep, I can get 1188

[south goblet]

there is, its the point that you have enough haste to extent your SB uptime without it falling off

[lusty grotto]

no

there is no such thing

1188 is NOT a break point

its a swap point for talents

[lofty warren]

.

[lusty grotto]

holy mother of fuck

[undone beacon]

bro

fuck off with that pepega

[lofty warren]

Too long

[undone beacon]

lmao

[lusty grotto]

i cant believe he doubled down on the bonus roll odd calculation

odds*

[sharp gale]

It doesn’t count for my bingo

[lofty warren]

I told the AI to do this (compare with the following inputs:
dung a with 0.4% expected value and 1% top upgrade
dung b with 0.3% expected and 1.4% top upgrade

Season lasts for another 8 weeks.
Non-bis upgrades last 5 weeks before needing to be replaced.
There is value in getting upgrade right now instead of later so a discount rate is included.

[undone beacon]

yes you can

[south goblet]

my phone chat did not like that interaction

[stoic hound]

The difference is not that much I guess so I can take mythic trinket and save rolls, thank you guys

[lofty warren]

Problem is that we dont necessarily know how long Season will last and how many weeks until smaller upgrade that is bonus rolled today will become the worst item currently equipped so its not perfect

[lusty grotto]

we know the MDI finals are in sept

so the season will end around that

[plush tendon]

oh nice

[echo egret]

What is an easy-to-set-up-and-use addon for the memory game on Lura ?

[plush tendon]

I like that

so basically no raid prog all summer

[lusty grotto]

unless they do some weird 2 season MDI shit

which is unheard of

[south goblet]

one of our dps set up a macro and manually put the order into chat

[echo egret]

a macro that takes into account all the possibilites ?

[south goblet]

no, he manually hit the order in chat as it appeared useing a chat macro. So he had a button for each icon and hit it as it appeared

[undone beacon]

theres not really an easy to set up and use lura solution. Have a raid leader watch and call it out. Or go through the m33kauras/NSRT hellscape for the visual aide. Or have someone spam chat with a macro

[stoic hound]

by the way, is that always the case that raid trinkets outperfrom m+ ones? or this is just coincidence for this season?

[undone beacon]

Raid trinkets tend to be better than M+ trinkets in general

[lusty grotto]

yes raid trinkets usually outperform

there has been a very limited number of seasons where that was not the case

that is the odd case, not the norm

[frosty mango]

I mean having someone click it and press send is pretty easy

[undone beacon]

wdym

the set-up we had to do for lura stuff with nsrt/m33k was a pain in the ass and we didnt even end up really using it lmao

[south goblet]

it is easy, you just wrint a macro that puts the raid icon into chat and auto hits enter, do this for each of the 6 symbols

our hunter has like 15 open key binds so he just did it for us

[fringe mural]

i am 5 myth crests away from hero of dawn

then it's alt gearing time yo

[frosty mango]

There’s an addon where someone just clicks the icons as they come up and hits send

Then everyone gets it

I did it last week

[ivory barn]

Go do nilluaes the delve boss

[undone beacon]

Do share

Because that’s news to me

[ivory barn]

That sounds like a dangerous addon

[south goblet]

it not, it litterally just does what you can write into a maco, but on a clickable bar

its easyer to just write the 2 line macro though tbh

[frosty mango]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/luratilyhelper

I click icons

They pop up

I hit button

[south goblet]

lol theres a comment attached to this for april 28th "this addon is no longer working while in combat with lura"

[ivory barn]

It broke down with the other add-ons like it

Cause that's the equivalent of "here solve it with a weakaura"

[south goblet]

yea in the addon desription "Blizzard restrictions: like other addon, in encounter fight, you can see only your proper addon and your proper pattern. -> Trying to fix it"

so yea i dont think this works any more

just write a macro to put it into chat your self

its as easy /raid {name of what ever icon}

[frosty mango]

I mean I used it last week and it worked fine, was that last the 28th?

I used it the first

[opaque oriole]

How much does a block mitigate of a melee hit?

[frosty mango]

Mouse over your block

[opaque oriole]

On mobile

[jagged pier]

30-40% depending on block value

[shrewd moss]

we used tilly lura helper briefly and it was eh. had some issues. resorted to comms and got AOTC that way

[opaque oriole]

👍

[lusty grotto]

it also depends on a constant that changes each season, what we call block K-value

not to be confused by Armor K-value

[opaque oriole]

Wait there’s 2

What are they for keys?

[high aspen]

Does SR stop belo orb damage

Or only reduce

[lusty grotto]

did you check the spell reflect guide on the pins?

for future reference please do

orb damage is magical so the Magic DR will reduce it

[high aspen]

Idk if it's bad on mobile but I checked and the beloren part had vorasius abilities

[undone beacon]

Hm, yeah look at that

[lusty grotto]

oh youre right

[undone beacon]

Belo does have the wrong abilities

[coarse bay]

An illusion

[lusty grotto]

time to check some logs

[high aspen]

It might just reduce it instead of stopping damage entirely

[lusty grotto]

yeah

likely

Void Echo and Light Echo

[high aspen]

Yeah

[lusty grotto]

its not reflectable

just MDR

[high aspen]

Ic ty

[lusty grotto]

just double checked some logs

[hardy snow]

SR is so good on Bellamy

[lusty grotto]

(this is heroic)

but it should be the same on mythic

[high aspen]

Yeah aight good looks

Ty

[lusty grotto]

@fiery sable whenever you can, Belo'ren is listing Vorasius abilities

in the spell reflect guide

im double checking mythic logs but there's no reflectables

outside of melee, Light Edict is blockable

the physical part

so

Void edict should be as well

thats about it

[ivory barn]

"An illusion what are you hiding"

[coarse bay]

[lofty warren]

@lusty grotto in case ur curious i went down this rabbit hole. Season length = 12 more weeks and non-bis upgrade is useful for avg of 7 weeks. Including loot pool for seat being 15 items and 10 on skyreach AND discount rate factoring that items obtained later are less valuable bc less time to use them.. in my specific case the higher avg expected value one > lower avg expected with chance of BIS.. feel better about using bonus roll on seat even though it just has a bunch of little upgrades.

[lusty grotto]

im not curious

[shrewd moss]

lol

[cold pilot]

Are we really only tanking rank 1 of apex?

[shrewd moss]

no

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-9360083726644374992

[plush tendon]

if you are looking for the various builds, they are in the pins

[lusty grotto]

well i caught that one Billiam

but you did bait Augusto

so win/win

[plush tendon]

I dont even know who Billiam is

[shrewd moss]

Bill probably

[plush tendon]

thought he was a wee lad looking for help

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/got-em-trolls--k01KQZCQH22TVSGBA5P2XTEDVA8

[cold pilot]

Yes yes. All part of the plan

https://tenor.com/qyOSJhen5fS.gif

The suggested builds on Archon are wild.

[lofty warren]

It is suggested bc chinese ppl timing the top pwar keys are using 1/4 apex

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wccf--k01KQZCTB6G3QN7XAQ4H7E6H1CY

obi-wan talking about archon.gg

wait

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/based-uh-hello-based-department-based-department-american-psycho-patrick-bateman-gif-22458382

[lusty grotto]

WAIT

the WCCF comments section

nooooo ive been gif'ed @warm plinth

[cold pilot]

I genuinely LOVE the differences in all of the class discords lol. SPriests swear by Icy-Veins, Death Knights love Wowhead and Warriors hate Archon

[frosty mango]

Yes but we have a reason

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bigbird-one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-others-1--k01KQZCWX5NDC6D03PQBR8C0QZH

[frosty mango]

It’s based on who writes the content

[lusty grotto]

lets see here

guide..., guide...., ....uhhh

[frosty mango]

Archon guides you

To bad decisions

[cold pilot]

Where do we get our best decisions?

[shrewd moss]

bicy beins

or God

one of em

[warm plinth]

Wait what

[frosty mango]

Here, amongst the collective brainpower of prot warriors future and past

[lusty grotto]

my pants have never been wrong

[frosty mango]

But have they ever been right?

[lusty grotto]

yes

all the time

except when its pants off time

[lofty warren]

Imo the 1/4 must have at least a little Merritt if there isnt a case where there is a higher piece of evidence using 4/4. But the Chinese ppl irl buy myth raid loot so they are probably more geared than others. Worse case scenario 1/4 is truly always worse but its not like soooo much worse that you instantly die upon taking a white swin like protection pal

[daring marlin]

rats don't wear pants

[lusty grotto]

exactly

[warm plinth]

Everyone should hate archon. It's no different than murlok, subcreation, and any other data aggregation site. It's not a guide; it's literally just what is being used the most, which is almost entirely fueled by RNG (gear), or people following what one random streamer decided was a good idea, even if it isn't (talents)

[nova gorge]

Any Mythic Crown pwars out there? I have some questions about P1 to bounce off of people.

[undone beacon]

I mean the people who maintain both the wowhead and icyveins guides for shadow are active in the disc. Publik is just very detailed in his writeups imo

[warm plinth]

Icy-veins vs wowhead is literally just who is writing the guide on each website

[jagged pier]

Sense literally got rank 1 on the weekend with 4/4

[plush tendon]

sure

[jagged pier]

I think hes now rank 2 again

[ivory barn]

Where did your get that info

[cold pilot]

Warcraft Logs and Archon. The chinese are corrupting my mind.

[lilac hazel]

Prot war/h pal/boomkin/frost mage/hunter, ok comp for mythic+ group?

[warm plinth]

Not a lot of synergy there but sure

[nova gorge]

We are going D-M-V, I off on Morium, then I peel off for Vorelus once raid moves to Morium.

[undone beacon]

Any comp is fine as long as you have 5 people that arent braindead

[ivory barn]

Trust in Icy Veins 💪 💪

[frosty mango]

We just need sense to cook a build and go hard on the leaderboard to corrupt everyone

0/4 apex full execute build

[warm plinth]

My main concern with that comp would be that all the kicks are longer cd except yours

And boomie is very long

[frosty mango]

……any comp?

[undone beacon]

any comp

5 prot warr comp inc

sync your demolishes boys either the pack dies or we die

[nova gorge]

I know that Vorelus builds Echoing Darkness charges when there is no one in melee range. I'm considering aiming the Dark Hand knock back to throw me into Vorelus, to let me tag him, get them to cast Ravenous Abyss (8s cast), and then leap back to Morium. Then around 35s in the fight Leap back over to Vorelus, and then charge back to Morium (using the droplets as charge target).

[lusty grotto]

jUsT pReSs IgNoRe PaIn

[plush tendon]

that seems like way too much effort

Vor will only get to like 17-18 stacks

which aint a lot

[frosty mango]

You joke but https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wMCPnh2XbTqNkQjR?fight=3&type=damage-done

[narrow prawn]

5 mist Weaver comp

[nova gorge]

Right now my guild timings, he is around 20 stacks when I get to him.

[narrow prawn]

Nobody ever dies

[plush tendon]

thats fine; its like a 20% damage buff

its not a big deal

[narrow prawn]

Unless your mana dies first

[undone beacon]

thats 4 bdks and a ppal thats not 5 pwarrs

[plush tendon]

also, P1 as the solo tank is the only scary part of the fight for tanks

[nova gorge]

It was an 88% or something per the tooltip

[plush tendon]

was it?

I never cared XD

[nova gorge]

I've mostly been self-healing myself while on Vorelus as well.

[plush tendon]

yea, that sounds about right

[nova gorge]

So I'm trying to make it easier for myself without having to rely on a healer.

It doesn't seem like that much effort, lining up a knockback - leaping back over to Morium.

[pastel summit]

Bear doing so much dmg it might be aight to have two and just split the pulls between them

[plush tendon]

Your primary goal for clean prog is to A) not die

B) keep those mini boss positioning predictable

C) Make sure they soak those puddles

[nova gorge]

I'm the solo tank, so I control when the droplets die when I'm alone.

[plush tendon]

yea, I did the same thing

[ivory barn]

Fuck it bring back twilight dev

And pull all of tol dagor with 1 proc

[plush tendon]

I personally dont think its worth the bandwidth to worry about the # of stacks on Vor

as your guild progs, yall will get faster in P1 and youll naturally get to him faster with less stacks

its also the only point in the fight where you can die (other then falling off a ledge)

[nova gorge]

What part can kill us in P1 aside from Vorelus melees?

[plush tendon]

standing in a pool

thats about it

XD

[ivory barn]

Puddle popping

[plush tendon]

give it a go; if it works for you, all the power to ya

but its not a necessary thing to worry about

nor do I have any experience with that; I just face tanked it with whatever stacks he had

[lofty warren]

Oh nice. I hunted and pecked the top pwar keys witb a log on wcl (specifically ones with Asian characters) and looks like now its about 50/50 of those using 1/4 apex. Ofc that isnt scientific just a small sampling. For example the only 21 Mc was done by a chinese guy using 1/4 I bet that impacts "recommended" talents shown by aggregates like archon.

If I recall a number of weeks ago when I looked the top chonese logs were more frequently using 1/4 compared to now so perhaps everyone ia converging to the "correct"/consensus answer

[tepid sparrow]

In p3 crown when's the best time to swap? Shield on the rift?

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-im-out-shit-nope-gif-13022980607546877972

[plush tendon]

im confused by the question

[ivory barn]

P3 is the circle is the tank swap

[tepid sparrow]

Oh God I meant p2

Sorry

[plush tendon]

Is this heroic?

[tepid sparrow]

Yes

[plush tendon]

swap after arrows

[ivory barn]

How hard is heroic lura? I wanna go get aotc there before my guild

[plush tendon]

no clue

not allowed to do Heroic Lura

until we kill Mythic

[undone beacon]

pug it in the dead of night when nobody is on

[plush tendon]

yea, but when we get CE

and Im the only one who doesnt get CE and AoTC at the same time

im gonna look like a ass

[undone beacon]

"aw shucks, there goes blizzard's trademark bugginess again!"

:3

[ivory barn]

you can get aotc AND CE if you kill it on mythic?

You gave me the best idea lol

[fiery sable]

Good call thanks! That was the template before raid got released 🤝

[lusty grotto]

[rotund thicket]

on lura you can reflect the blaze on yourself, does this mean you wont spawn the puddles if you have the spark thingy?

(talking about intermission)

[fiery sable]

You got a log of that reflect?

Nvm found one :>

[tight mural]

Any tips for alleria mythic? Locked out and progging her tonight. Prot Warr / bdk

[nova gorge]

Another question for you, in P2 were you Spell Reflecting all of the Rift Slashes? We just started practicing P1 last night, so no exp there yet - and from the few logs I reviewed so far of top parsers, none of them have pressed SR on those Rift Slashes. I'm not sure if it's because they know something I don't - or just bad knowledge of SR.

[plush tendon]

Reviewing the SR spreadsheet (in the pins) Rift Slash is a physical hit

SR would have 0 value

[nova gorge]

that means it blocks the physical, no?

[plush tendon]

Block as in SB

[undone beacon]

It means your shield blocks it

Like it would block a melee

[nova gorge]

So SR has value, or no? Blocking is still reducing damage?

[undone beacon]

SR has no value against rift slash

[plush tendon]

If you have Shield Block up, you block the hit

Spell Reflect has 0 value as A) it cannot be reflected and B) Its not magic damage

and, tbh, as a warrior youll barely notice Rift Slash

[lofty warren]

On right boss in nexus can all the adds be stunned?

[plush tendon]

im actually curious how Mythic Crown feels now on reclear

[tribal wharf]

5 stacks from final boss terrach hurts

[rotund thicket]

yes

[plush tendon]

they turbo dunked the boss with those nerfs

[nova gorge]

Okay, I've misunderstood the Spell reflect guide this whole time. I assumed that Block meant SR blocked the physical hit somehow. I scrolled up in the SR guide and read more now I understand.

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-usando-óculos-olhando-julgando-sério-judging-gif-1265955993997475896

[lusty grotto]

if its a deflect, it says so

[lament osprey]

It’s okay we are all warrior with one brain cell

[lusty grotto]

but there's no blocking spells, spell block died last expansion

[nova gorge]

does anyone know wtf this flag means on wowhead?

[lusty grotto]

you either:

1. Reflect damage back
2. Deflect and take no damage
3. Mitigate with the DR (this does not fade on a paired reflect)

we dont use wowhead my dude

[nova gorge]

Okay, but don't they pull the data from wow somehow for these flags?

[lusty grotto]

no idea we dont do wowhead

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt matter

we dont have a writer on wowhead

[lofty warren]

Oof hes got a point imo

[lusty grotto]

so you have to ask them personally

whereas the icy-veins writer is Mwahi

[nova gorge]

Why are we referencing a wowhead guide then if no one here is writing it

[ivory barn]

Take wowhead and just.. just kick it

https://tenor.com/view/superman-ball-ball-kick-gif-15177767

[lusty grotto]

there's a complicated answer to that one that i wont get into

if you dont trust me, then feel free to use it

[lament osprey]

Tldr listen the rat, he knows

Or don’t

And suffer

[lusty grotto]

but any questions related to the wowhead guide will be answered with "we dont know, ask Pumps"

[ivory barn]

I'm almost 3k io just staring at IV

[lament osprey]

Keep alleria stable when arrows are out in p2. That’s it, only common mistake there. Along with baiting adds to sides you want. GL

[nova gorge]

fair enough, that makes more sense now.

[lofty warren]

Is war disc legally obligated to put wowhead guide link in page wirh guides?

Or maybe get some $ per click from wh

[ivory barn]

Probably have to for "ease of access"

Come complaining in here and move in the correct direction IV

[lofty warren]

Imo doesn't make sense for discord to say "go to wowhead for pwae guide" but then everyone twll ppl not to use it

[tribal wharf]

angry warlock

over a bricked +8

[ivory barn]

Damn salty lock

[tribal wharf]

DONT TALK

lmao

[ivory barn]

Straight to the ignore list

[tribal wharf]

then go do 10s and nothing exciting ever happens

1-3 deaths a run

everyone relaxed

[ivory barn]

I wiped a 10 twice last night on purpose, and they were just like "it was just a bad pat timing"

Huge chill folks trying to keep tanks

[opal lodge]

Im having issues getting my 3 16s for ees

Res

If anyone knows a group or active group let me know

[ivory barn]

Res?

[daring marlin]

resil key

[fervent parcel]

Does anyone have any good way of tracking ignore pain? I had an old weakaura that tracked it pretty well with colors green being need more ignore pain and red meaning im in a good ignore pain range

[lusty grotto]

first of all, not really, there's no such functionality anymore
second of all, you do no tneed to track any of that

and you didnt need to track any of that

👉 #protection message

[ivory barn]

Ignore pain is the red headed kid asking for help

[fervent parcel]

oh i had no clue I just got back into it recently for my mythic raid team. I remembered that WA and loved it while playing

[cosmic harness]

It's a pain, I got resil 16 last week and seat and algethar were a pain in the ass (all pugs)

[mighty valley]

i wonder how that WA picked its colors lol

in big keys it was surely just flashing wildly

[fervent parcel]

It was like if ignore pain was at 70% capacity youre in the good and its numbers shown were red. at around 50% was yellow and 25% n under was green. thought it was a good n creative way to manage ignore pain

[lusty grotto]

seems unnecessary

you still hit IP even when full

the only thing you need for IP is your rage bar

[lofty warren]

You want something to see if your ip capped atm for possibly small optimizations?

[alpine tide]

Does anyone understand the change they made in Skyreach regarding the DoTs?

[lusty grotto]

afaik it was just an icon change

[alpine tide]

But it's not still blocking, right? I feel like I'm getting twice as many stacks compared to last week.

[lofty warren]

I noticed that too. Its a fire icon so stop baiting dwarfs from using racial imo

[lusty grotto]

yeah probably

[wanton void]

I had been tracking ignore pain and see that is not the strat, is there a way to have your rage bar color change or an alert or something when you get to 70 rage as a reminder?

[lusty grotto]

yes there are cdm addons that do it

[stoic hound]

I just added ip as absorb on the frame

via Ellesmere addon (its like elvui but with no fps loss)

[ivory barn]

How does ellesmere go about it?

[lusty grotto]

weren't you mashing IP way too much on the last log?

do you think that maybe that absorb indicator is steering you in the wrong direction?

[stoic hound]

yep probably

I will try to improve this week in 17 keys. If I see I fail, I just grind 16 until improve eff. uptime and ip overuse

[pastel summit]

Not really worth stressing about IP usage if you're neglecting to keep shield block up.

[stoic hound]

you mean fps? code quality I guess

if you meant ip, then I added like this (white bar on player frame)

[lusty grotto]

elvui rewrites frames

other UI addons simply decorate the blizzard default ones

[ivory barn]

I had meant ip, and that is a neat absorb. If it overlays the health bar it would be weird to me

[lusty grotto]

it does not have a massive impact, unless if youre playing with a dated pc

would be weird to me too

cause im used to see heal absorbs there

[fervent parcel]

That looks clean

[stoic hound]

on my laptop fps is noticable:( on a decent desktop I guess it does not matter much for m+ if you use elvui or another addons

[mighty valley]

all i have for IP is a buff icon in the mix with everything else with the percentage on it

[lusty grotto]

on laptops you usually have to change power settings

[mighty valley]

gives me all the relevant info i need in the rare "uh oh big hit coming" scenario

and it's not distracting

[ivory barn]

I run my health absorb overtop my bar

[stoic hound]

nah, it runs on full, it is just not that good

[lusty grotto]

unfortunate

[stoic hound]

is it possible for ip to overlay the whole hp?

[ivory barn]

No, not that I noticed

[wanton void]

can someone give me a good addon to use for the color switching when at 70+ rage, I uses senseiclassresourcebar right now but dont see an option

[lusty grotto]

look up CDM, a lot of them do it now

just type cdm in the curse (or wago addons) search bar

and check

[stoic hound]

same ellesmere:)) I put +70 rage as yellow

[harsh trellis]

Im checking out ellesmere right now

[ivory barn]

I use Arcui and just do tick lines

[sage tapir]

Lvling my warrior up as my first alt. Don’t have a ton of time to play, what’s everyone favorite/most efficient way to lvl as prot or arms?
Was thinking prot and just spam dungeons or do the story campaign

[harsh trellis]

I like leveling as prot

also download follow the arrow

[stoic hound]

like on thee screen above, rage is about 85-90

[sage tapir]

Ok cool I will, do you just spam tank dungeons? Or story quest?

[wanton void]

ty

[harsh trellis]

I just queue for dungeons while questing

it goes super fast especially during timewalking

[stoic hound]

I only spammed dungeons, I think this is the best way to get used to the spec

as tank there is no downtime almost

and df dungeons not that bad

[sage tapir]

Awesome appreciate the feedback!

[stoic hound]

ah, if you do not have plans to play as prot war then I'm not sure dungeons is the most correct path

[opal lodge]

yeah dude those two and windspire are my last 3

[harsh trellis]

I would level as the spec you wanna play mostly 🙂

[dusky canopy]

Yeah definitely

Prot gameplay doesn’t really translate to either dps spec

Leveling as tank is definitely quickest via dungeon spam though

[harsh trellis]

Our standard M+ build listed on Icey Veins is basically good up to what key level you think?

I also see Mwahi set another Higher Key Defensive build as well

[ivory barn]

I've been doing 12-14's with the original thane build

[sage tapir]

Yeah I played fury and Prot last 2 seasons TWW. So I’ll swap back and forth quite a bit. Only now I’ll primarily play Prot and arms on occasion

[cosmic harness]

As far as my knowledge goes, augmentation helps a lot, so definitely having one in your groups helps a lot

And yes, bosses in Windrunner are the true challenge

Specially the bird

[ivory barn]

Good God, just opening icy veins and the tab is 3gb... Who the fuck is coding that

[harsh trellis]

there is a ton going on

adds also

the prot war rotation page only uses about 80mb

[ivory barn]

And.... It just crashed the other PC I use

[frosty mango]

Less icy veins and more how chromium works

I fired up a bunch of firefox IV tabs on a debloated browser with network level ad blocking and script blocking and I didnt even make it to a gig

blame capitalism

[lusty grotto]

tab suspension is poggers

[frosty mango]

lol if I turn off my network blocker I cant even see the content because of the ads

[lofty warren]

These guardian damage numbers in m+ are insane

[frosty mango]

how do people even use the internet

[harsh trellis]

I miss netscape

[ivory barn]

I had an ad blocker until my browser went fucking haywire

[harsh trellis]

make a pihole

[lusty grotto]

you said this 2 months ago

it does not take 2 months to install ublock origin

[ivory barn]

yeah with Wowhead, IV was fine and now IV broke

[lusty grotto]

again

it does not take 2 months to install ublock origin

it takes 5 seconds

[tardy sequoia]

who's more durable this season between us and pala?

[lusty grotto]

do you have to ask

but even if it wasnt very obvious, the proper answer is: whichever you play best

[tardy sequoia]

i'm so unlucky, the only season since 2008 i tried something new from warrior is completely paper wet lol

[harsh trellis]

it depends, whos transmog looks more sick though

like out of the warrior or paladin

[solid sun]

Paladin is the tankiest during divine shield

Does that help

[tribal wharf]

am i just imagining or is many monk healers as of late

[cosmic harness]

I use t3 from Warrior for both, how do I do?

[harsh trellis]

Lots of mistweavers I love them

[tribal wharf]

id say priest but when is there NOT priests in wow

there is a billion of them

[harsh trellis]

theres not a billion

[cosmic harness]

I only play prot warrior but I felt pretty tanky until I got to 16-17 range, but I assume is the same with every tank

[harsh trellis]

Just changed over to ellesmere's ui

its pretty nice

like super nice

[tardy sequoia]

well I'm in the 15-16 range so...

[cosmic harness]

I think it's a common feeling for every tank, shit hits hard starting in that key level. But I can only talk with my experience playing prot warrior, I was about to start gearing my monk to see the difference

[solid sun]

If I played 14 in evercold would I have any Skyhold homies

[harsh trellis]

I dont know what that even means

[ivory barn]

gonna guess for chrome it was Ublock Origin Lite, and holy fuck from 3gb to 200mb

[solid sun]

Final fantasy 14. Next expansion is Evercold or smth like that

[harsh trellis]

Oh... I've never played ff

[sage tapir]

Where’s that at?

[lusty grotto]

it depends on the content but i usually only SP until the story is done

[harsh trellis]

Curse

[tardy sequoia]

well with pala you see your healthbar going completely yoyo

[solid sun]

SP?

[lusty grotto]

single player

[solid sun]

Oooh. Does that mean you only progress through the story or do you also do the raids pugging by yourself

[lusty grotto]

um

you need to do the story to level every exp

and raids arent out from the get go

same as WoW

[cosmic harness]

Lol, the last time I played prot paladin was back in BFA

[lusty grotto]

that one aint it

its literally called "ublock origin"

"lite" is someone else's fork

do you regularly get phished by any chance?

also no idea why you use chrome

[ivory barn]

I've had to wipe windows more times than I can fucking count

[lusty grotto]

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm

uninstall whatever you added

[long cedar]

any prot warrior advise for mythic raiding prefer collosus or mountain thaine for better parsing

[ivory barn]

already did

https://ublockorigin.com/ going here shows this

[lusty grotto]

next time check here https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#ublock-origin also it will stop working on 149, so you best change your browser cause chrome is dogshit

even Edge is better

[warm plinth]

I use Microsoft Edge as my primary browser, AMA

[lusty grotto]

good

solid browser if you strip the fuck out of all the Copilot garbage

[warm plinth]

Nim how do I find the answer to life, the universe, and everything without Copilot?

[cerulean tusk]

I use Firefox, cause the fox mascot is cute

[harsh trellis]

Nothing wrong with Edge, its my daily work driver

[cerulean tusk]

[lusty grotto]

yeah im a firefox/forks stan

[warm plinth]

Honestly work is the main reason I use it at home; makes password management easier XD and honestly it's so much better than IE was

[harsh trellis]

and well.. more secure lol

god what a pos ie was

[warm plinth]

Yeah

Firefox is my secondary on the rare occasion I come across something that doesn't play well with Edge

[harsh trellis]

I use firefox on my ubuntu box

copilot is shit, its just using chatgpt for everything

its like a front end for chatgpt

oh.. copilot integrates perfectly with your o365 suite only no it fuckin doesnt

[lusty grotto]

librewolf / firefox dev edition for gecko
brave / edge if i want chromium

nothing else is good

[velvet knot]

Average proc is 3700 the tooltip lies. Its about a 1/10 chance of proccing

Very minimal upgrade but still technically upgrade

[sand condor]

Gang i pugged a 15 today and that shit seemed so free

[harsh trellis]

whats that purple gem?

[sand condor]

Can i do a 20

[harsh trellis]

I'm trolling.......

[lusty grotto]

yes, i believe in you

[velvet knot]

go for 30's

[sand condor]

Thank you nim

I needed that

[ivory barn]

Nimchip, the Developer of the UBoL is the same Unless im blind?

[harsh trellis]

ok so.... Getting with the times having a rage bar directly in front with a % helps

[lusty grotto]

was it this one https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home

if so, then yes

and it should be good

[ivory barn]

that is where I went yeah

you were scaring me for a minute

[lusty grotto]

well tbf i hadnt heard of it

and there have been cases in the past where there are similarly named addons that are just there to do whatever nefarius thing you can imagine

[ivory barn]

I uninstalled ABP after that whole stupidity

[harsh trellis]

ublock lite better than adblock?

[lofty warren]

You know bear is busted when Yoda making emergency tier lists

[ivory barn]

this is why I dont go to chrome webstore, holy fuck the amount of forks

[lusty grotto]

theres literally a link in the github

scroll down

[ivory barn]

yeah I clicked that one and installed it

[frosty mango]

https://oisd.nl/

you can use these block lists with ublock origin

[ivory barn]

just wanted to go see what you meant, that is where I went first tho

[frosty mango]

Will really help with getting rid of all of the nonsense

[undone beacon]

what if i want more ads

what if i want to donate plasma to the data brokers

they need it for their analytics

[frosty mango]

Jfc I can’t say that?

[ivory barn]

I was tired of my browser deleting windows32 ok

[frosty mango]

We block the weirdest stuff lol

[undone beacon]

anal lytics

ok not that

[frosty mango]

I said uh, you can just…take the internet unprotected if you’d like that

[lusty grotto]

raw

dog

ging

it

[undone beacon]

oh yeah

[harsh trellis]

just not in utah

[lusty grotto]

well you just change lanes over there

[undone beacon]

when they ask me how i like my weiners, i say i want that raw dog

[lusty grotto]

take the exit, take the other tunnel

[undone beacon]

[ivory barn]

the amount of sites that I go to lessened when I didn't have an ad blocker because of the stupidity they caused

[harsh trellis]

like imgur?

[ivory barn]

that was the shit at one point lol

[undone beacon]

my favorite is websites that go "can you pwease turn off ad blockers just for meeeee 👉 👈 🥺 "

[frosty mango]

“Hm. No”

[ivory barn]

kinda suprised YT didnt bitch at me

[undone beacon]

oh it will, just not directly

[harsh trellis]

I pay for youtube premium

[frosty mango]

I pushed for ublock to be enterprise mandatory tooling for us but they said no

lol

[undone beacon]

Sometimes it wont load your videos and you have to refresh because it locks up on an "Experiencing interruptions? Find out why" popup

[frosty mango]

Expensive mostly useless edr that costs a fortune ✅

Free tool that blocks basically every ad and scam bait on the internet ❌

[harsh trellis]

OOO what brand

NAME IT

[frosty mango]

Defender xdr, it’s expensive and trash

[undone beacon]

Isnt that microsoft's xdr?

[frosty mango]

Yes

[harsh trellis]

jesus dude

[frosty mango]

See above

[harsh trellis]

im sorry

[ivory barn]

lmao we use an EDR at work that is fucking stupid

[undone beacon]

ew

[harsh trellis]

lol

[daring marlin]

ublock origin owns

[undone beacon]

We use Cortex XDR which... has its own issues I suppose

I'm our Cortex SME lmao

[harsh trellis]

Wait is this because of the tenant and the licenses you have to use edited voice tt

[frosty mango]

No, it’s because they think collapsing their tech stack gets them savings on licensing

Which it does, but the tool is shit and it doesn’t account for the labor you spend constantly messing with it

[undone beacon]

I had no less than three different teams drag me on to vendor calls today to accuse Cortex of causing application issues and demanding exceptions be created, only for me to humor them and demonstrate it wasn't the EDR at all.

[ivory barn]

Sorry Nimchip, for the stupidity of my warrior brain. its been a long day at work

[frosty mango]

Web content filtering is idiotic and complex when you can just use a blocklist and manage dns internally for a much better result at a fraction of the price

[harsh trellis]

I like my pihole at home but I never heard of ublock origins before

[undone beacon]

Me explaining to the nth team that EDR is not AV and exempting your processes wont stop it from looking

[harsh trellis]

Im uninstalling adblock to give it a shot

[frosty mango]

Ublock with the oisd blocklists does what pihole does but locally

[ivory barn]

it made wowhead and icy veins go from 3-4GB+ used to 200-300mb

[frosty mango]

You can load the oisd blocklists to pihole and get a similar result,
Though ublock also has script blocking

[undone beacon]

At my old job i used to have an entire Fortinet stack protecting my home network, that was fuckin slick

[coarse bay]

Fortnite stack

[undone beacon]

But when i quit they made me give it all back, JERKS

i dont think they ever figured out how to set it all back up anyways

Not my problem though I left them a guide

[harsh trellis]

Oh you can install it right from the chrome store also thats cool

[frosty mango]

I use technitium and proxy dns from all my devices

[frosty mango]

FYI chrome doesn’t support real ad blocking anymore

[harsh trellis]

yeah holy sh&& wowhead

[frosty mango]

If you want actual ad blocking you gotta use Firefox

[lusty grotto]

or librewolf

[frosty mango]

Ya but Firefox has extension store and it’s easy for laymen lol

I use origin on mobile

[harsh trellis]

Well Im down with both

[lusty grotto]

im using firefox focus on mobile

[harsh trellis]

I am also putting my tinfoil hat on and trying to make wow work with ubuntu

[lusty grotto]

seems pretty decent

[mystic cave]

I found out today that we have a raider playing on a steamdeck

[lusty grotto]

but tl;dr its just private tabs 24/7

[frosty mango]

No tinfoil involved

Just get proton

Valve has solved that problem for you

[harsh trellis]

Proton is valve?

[frosty mango]

Alternatively you could just use Nobara or bazzite instead of Ubuntu

[lusty grotto]

pretty much

[harsh trellis]

I like all this shit

[ivory barn]

wonder how long it would take my raid team to realize I'd raid with a VR headset. if I had one

[harsh trellis]

Ill check those out

[harsh trellis]

lol

[frosty mango]

Honestly

I’d recommend nobara for Linux gaming

It’s a pretty smooth oob experience

Not perfect but much better than Ubuntu

[undone beacon]

Diehard TempleOS fan

[frosty mango]

Hell yea

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/templeos-terry-davis-gif-19184988

[frosty mango]

High score of Jesus’ Jumprope Jamboree

[undone beacon]

Rest in peace Terry Davis, the glowies were too strong

i found an old barcode scanner in a forgotten desk drawer what do i do with it

[lusty grotto]

scan all the things

[undone beacon]

i gotta figure out how to turn it on

or if its perma dead cuz i dont have a thing for it to sit on

[lofty warren]

Likihood bear is going to get fixed? If they just leave it as is im contractually obligated to play the 3 button rotation that is better than every other tank

[frosty mango]

They will tune it if it’s too high

I doubt we see that for a bit

Median guardian parses still in line

Top end is janky

Prob 2 weeks we see it tuned

[toxic pewter]

lol

gotta respect pepega stays in character quite well

[frosty mango]

He slipped up few weeks ago

He’s course correcting

Started making a lil too much sense and everyone was like hol up

[coarse bay]

[toxic pewter]

Lol interesting I must of missed that lol

[coral quartz]

Hi guys, question skyreach just tried it on a 16 there it was going smoothly up until after the third boss I pulled the two pack on the stupid birds on the left and i tried kiting and stunning etc but eventually died after using my cd’s. How do you approach this? I thought the pull after the first boss was the spiciest but maybe it’s this one.

[undone beacon]

Trash after the third boss is the scariest for tanks. You need to backpedal to let the fiery talons debuff fall over. Have dps focus down the adepts of the dawn

[coral quartz]

Dang

So basically they need to be focused down cc’d stunned etc

Also raided earlier and the other tank is a bear he is pulling some noticeable dps seems like there tuning was nice

[abstract arch]

https://tenor.com/view/temple-os-terry-davis-ai-gif-8918564695660364505

[glass fox]

has anyone looked into the Permafrost Essence m0 trinket? Uptime seems crazy

[undone beacon]

Cant get it right now so

Not really

[ivory barn]

time to tank a 12 npx >.<

[tribal wharf]

with THIS affix?

i'd rather not

laser man side will be hell

[marble forge]

hey all. Are Prot Apex talents ok not to take? and place points elsewhere?

[daring marlin]

Doesn't happen in 12s bro

[tribal wharf]

right, i keep forgetting that, i dont want to attempt those

not yet rather,

[daring marlin]

The affix is ass on alts

healers keep not healing it off

lmfao

[warm plinth]

I'd like to heal you off, if you know what I mean

[ivory barn]

how do I have a PB? never done a 12

[tribal wharf]

5000 iq play

[daring marlin]

hah, gottem

[warm plinth]

[undone beacon]

@lusty grotto grats on chim boots

[ivory barn]

pug dh's are sus

[tribal wharf]

one more

i guess healer doesnt understand the dispell

so i got to 5 stacks and it overwhelmed anything i could really do about it

unless resto druid cant disple it for some reason? i think all healers can and mostyl only healers that can remove magic

[toxic pewter]

they definitely can dispel magic

dude just let u die

[heavy sparrow]

I had one healer do that to me yesterday, I was just under the impression they wanted to heal or parse

[tribal wharf]

plz note, the cartoony slap stick boomer music is an intentional and purposeful addition

to highlight a clips clown nature

[heavy sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/its-perfect-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20798470

[tribal wharf]

it really did happen just like that in game

massive lag spike

[autumn heron]

He just thought of the group and decided not to let any puddles spawn

[tribal wharf]

tank torture

[crisp ocean]

prot pally is so fun

the dmg go crazy

[lofty warren]

wtf is this

[ivory barn]

well I've been shown the hell that is 1/4....

[harsh trellis]

what makes your groups look like that

[toxic pewter]

whats what

just a pic of ur ui it seems

[ivory barn]

yay!

[toxic pewter]

grats!

[ivory barn]

thanks, that was a headache

[tribal wharf]

if i encounter more funny moments

[abstract arch]

Haven't seen a good one yet

[tribal wharf]

ill post em

[lofty warren]

what does more damage my lvl 89 bear or 278 pwar?

[ivory barn]

so curious how to check effective block uptime in a key

[hollow hill]

Any tips on mythic saladhar? I feel like I'm just getting destroyed

talented into fight through the flames just for a bit of extra damage reduction

[tribal wharf]

log but i dont understand why it is demonic to want to know in real time blocked/parried hits

i prefer to stay away from logging anything if i can, like uploading of it rather

i'll upload it, look at it once, never look at it aga in

[harsh trellis]

Whats the issue, youre not really taking any dmg other than the ig tank buster

also do you have any logs?

[tribal wharf]

sims too, i try to stay away from sims

spreadsheets

im good without having to think about any of that

[hollow hill]

Honestly just rotting a bit from the debuff after we swap

[harsh trellis]

how many stacks

[hollow hill]

trying to swap around 10

[narrow ether]

10stacks, seems like healer issue

[opal ledge]

mage tower done!

[ivory barn]

where do you see that progress?

[harsh trellis]

Do you have any logs?

[ivory barn]

oh that made that 10x harder...

[hollow hill]

honestly think I figured it out, probably was my ignore pain falling off while I'm not on boss and running around chasing orbs and interrupts

[harsh trellis]

what?

You dont take much dmg doing any of that

[sharp rover]

I'm out of the loop on a lot of WoW's systems, how is Mage Tower loot still obtainable?

[warm plinth]

The newer version that just gives armor sets was intended to be evergreen

You can't get the weapons anymore though, from the original Legion one

[hollow hill]

lol I mean if I'm running around with 14 stacks and outrange the healer with ignore pain off, it can get kind sketchy especially if the orb pops and I get that debuff too

[sharp rover]

Is it difficult/time consuming to clear?

[warm plinth]

Difficulty is relative. Time depends on how many attempts it takes you I suppose

Er, subjective is what I meant, not relative

It's hard for some, easy for others

[sharp rover]

How does it compare to the most recent Nullaeus ?? fight

[warm plinth]

That is a question for someone else. I hadn't even gotten to max level when I unsubbed lol.

[daring marlin]

The keys call your name bro

[warm plinth]

And Rohan will not answer

[opal ledge]

i think it`s a similar difficult if you made nulleaus in first week

now with gear nulleaus is quite easy

[sharp rover]

I did Nullaeus ?? with ~255 ilvl and genuinely the hardest part of the fight was not falling asleep and forgetting to kick

I'll give Mage Tower a go then 👍

[ivory barn]

I'm upset now..... fucking spell queue window got reset on my ass

[native acorn]

hello is there any weird stuff going on the tether in mythic cosmos? i got the aggro on the boss and didn't get tether. the tether went to 2 range and 1 melee

[neon jay]

wow gz @shut summit

[stiff osprey]

should i be using shield charge, charge or both?

[undone beacon]

idk what sense did now but I agree

[undone beacon]

Charge is a gap closer, shield charge is a nuke + stun + shield block provider

You basically hit Shield Charge on CD

[stiff osprey]

got it

[shut summit]

🙂

[ivory barn]

Pash! #protection message it happened!

[stiff osprey]

dont quite understand why i should use this macro:

#showtooltip
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Shield Slam

[undone beacon]

Ayyyy congrats! Knew you could :)

[undone beacon]

It’s to snipe shield slam resets from spending rage on Ignore Pain off the GCD. You use it as your ignore pain button, and still keep SS on your bars

It’s a neat bit of optimization, since SS is your highest priority gcd ability

And spending rage (even off gcd in IP) has a chance to reset it

[stiff osprey]

thx

[rotund lily]

quick question on stats, i have equal amounts of crit and haste (almost 900) and like 350 vers i don't really know what to increase/decrease, i saw some top warriors stacking mastery and i don't know why , i thought that mastery is not that good?

[lusty grotto]

you do what raidbots tells you

there are no x number of stats

[rotund lily]

like for survivability

[lusty grotto]

mastery IS good

its lower prio, but you should NOT avoid it

[rotund lily]

haste is king i know that

[lusty grotto]

you sim

after haste

[rotund lily]

alright

[lusty grotto]

both for dps and survivability

if you gain dps from a secondary stat

you will gain defensiveness sometimes at an equal measure, sometimes at a less measude, and sometimes more, but gain nonetheless

all tank stats have double functions

and the only real way to see if you gain more, is by simming and attributing that increase to its defensive part

[rotund lily]

never knew that damn

[tall lance]

How do you manage pull and debuff on 1st pull academy +17/18 ?
Same question for triumvirat

That’s my pain currently

[floral zenith]

For MH how do I choose between berserker enchant or acuity?

I only do mythic plus

Why do some opt for the strength while others go for haste

[jagged pier]

Pick your favourite

[fringe venture]

For AA, not being dwarf btw, I actually either go with a guildy evoker or just Split It if PUGs, if I Split It then I pray for no mistakes done lately, if we have some deaths It wont be timed. And on Seat I actually chainpull them instead of Big, BL the first Boss and make a Big pull lately on the DG. I didnt get to manage first pull Big on Seat yet, with those champions charging and all the aoe explosive dmg. but Im one of the worst p. Warriors in here prolly 🤣

[tacit spire]

someone here, who can check my loggs and tell me what i do wrong? My logs looks crazy shit, but i dont get why. I feel like, i do everything like the guides tell 🙁

[opal ledge]

yay timed maisara 16 ^^

[autumn heron]

Attabe brother. Now for the 17