im still salty.... ive killed imperator 5 times on warrior and belo 1 time
#protection
velvet knot
Now i can finally complete my myth transmog set
||This is a joke||
plush tendon
from either one
harsh trellis
Lol
wary gyro
Haven't seen it yet but I don't have much left I can get that would be an upgrade
lusty grotto
now thats a good bait
harsh trellis
Yep complete that transmog
undone beacon
sexcellent bait
velvet knot
sexcellent bait
harsh trellis
What is the gem icon for
lusty grotto
for favorite 
harsh trellis
Oh
undone beacon
purple being myth and orange being hero hurts me
lusty grotto
VAULT TIME
velvet knot
champ for example
toxic pewter
what in the world apparently nothing went live lol
tepid sparrow
tooltips might be weird
toxic pewter
yah not bad
harsh trellis
With what archi posted
lusty grotto
guess ill replace the hero track nimchipadin got last week LUL
harsh trellis
Does that mean our updates aren't live yet?
harsh trellis
Cool cool cool
undone beacon
toxic pewter
solid sun
My vault had nothing in it
pastel summit
Neither did the tuning pass gg
toxic pewter
solid sun
I am the dev
undone beacon
Warrior dead gg
solid sun
Was a good run
toxic pewter
lol
solid sun
Cya next season
undone beacon
Must’ve been the wind
fringe mural
it was just bait to keep us playing one more week
solid sun
It would be super funny if this happened on an expansion launch
Servers opened up but the forgot to press the last titan turn on button
pastel summit
Would be funny if they didn't mess up horribly somehow every single tuesday for like 3 months
fringe mural
Wtf is the last titan, worldsoul saga part 3?
solid sun
Yuh
pastel summit
half baked buggy expac numbo 3 ya
fringe mural
did they say it will be called that or is it just a working title?
harsh trellis
Metzen said that at blizzcon
lusty grotto
five
harsh trellis
Its our infinity saga
fringe mural
Metzen said that at blizzcon
Okay
drowsy comet
You guys expected buffs? SIKE
toxic pewter
I just spoke to my friend who is internning at blizz- apparently they pushed the buffs but it was to brewmaster. As a result, they obviously do not have Thunder Blast, etc... so keg smash was buffed.
harsh trellis
Did any class tuning go live?
lofty warren
There needed to have been an APL update for the col ST to now use execute?
solid sun
Pepega did you buy prima guides for all the games you played before wow
lusty grotto
lmao
lofty warren
I just spoke to my friend who is internning at blizz- apparently they pushed the...
Is that why wowhead is saying pwar st damage is buffed by 6%? They pushed a coefficient to pwar that was intended for brews ?
lilac hazel
which is better for bis list, icy or wowhead
ionic fern
Simming yourself.
toxic pewter
Is that why wowhead is saying pwar st damage is buffed by 6%? They pushed a coef...
according to my unpaid intern friend- yes- that is exactly what occurred. My very friend was the one responsible for this actually.
lusty grotto
according to my unpaid intern friend- yes- that is exactly what occurred. My ver...
is your friend called Claude?
toxic pewter
He is in charge or prot warr and prot warr accessories
fringe mural
I'm out, this is too much
harsh trellis
See, thats why you need crunch
mighty valley
this is a beautiful and perfect apb pepega interaction. i'm crying. put it in a museum
lusty grotto
or Grok? apb?
lofty warren
according to my unpaid intern friend- yes- that is exactly what occurred. My ver...
He needs to cover his tracks better so pwar gets 6% st dps buff instead of 3% like the pin says
toxic pewter
is your friend called Claude?
Never actually got his name, at blizz they re just known as intern #3424, etc
harsh trellis
Jfc grok is such a pos
lusty grotto
Never actually got his name, at blizz they re just known as intern #3424, etc
ok lets just call them Claude
drowsy comet
Grok murder this brew meta
toxic pewter
or Grok? apb?
lol I use gemini mostly now
mighty valley
wait apb. how did you meet this intern, how did they become your friend
in this very real story
harsh trellis
He met it through an app
solid sun
I saw a Facebook post from a friend of mine saying that china made it illegal for companies to replace human workers with AI for purely cost cutting purposes
lusty grotto
he spoke to them on the internet, he asked in a query-like fashion
mighty valley
they're a friend of yours but you don't have their name?
harsh trellis
Its a trained friend
solid sun
I wonder if it’s true
harsh trellis
He started asking it questions like is this hat too small
toxic pewter
wait apb. how did you meet this intern, how did they become your friend
See, most do not realize/know this lore but I myself internned at blizzard
fringe mural
and what was your number?
lusty grotto
i can confirm apb did intern, since my dad is John Blizzard
solid sun
A Past Blizzard (employee)
harsh trellis
If you interned at blizzard. Dont you hate talking about your time at blizzard? And did you dad also work at blizzard
lofty warren
Memes aside if I sim myself now does raidbots/simc/apl reflect the updates that should have gone today?
solid sun
APB created the wrath prepatch disease
toxic pewter
yes
solid sun
It created Pepega
harsh trellis
Varian death? Was that you
toxic pewter
yes
harsh trellis
You son of a bitch.
lofty warren
I'm talking about the buffs to pwar
toxic pewter
it was me all along
lusty grotto
HOT OFF THE PRESSES
drowsy comet
jk jk dont burn down our warrior department, here are ur buffs
lusty grotto
archi just dropping bombs
fringe mural
yeah man
solid sun
What bombs
fringe mural
Doing the lords work
drowsy comet
What bombs
Awoogas
toxic pewter
little did we know the hotfixes were inside us all along... we just had to believe 🙏 🤲
lofty warren
Where is the bomb
fringe mural
harsh trellis
They were the hot fixes we made along the way
lusty grotto
deez bombs, gottem
fringe mural
damn
toxic pewter
lofty warren
Where did he find the hotdixes?
fringe mural
i see we're in good spirits today
fringe mural
Where did he find the hotdixes?
in your mom
lusty grotto
until now
fringe mural
there was a hot dix
harsh trellis
Woah... roughing the passer.
lofty warren
but she mains a bm hjnter
lusty grotto
i just opened warrior's vault
fringe mural
and?
harsh trellis
Mythic gloves
fringe mural
what's inside
lusty grotto
massive disappointment is whats inside
fringe mural
massive disappointment is whats inside
bonus roll it is
i will check mine tomorrow because i'm an EU pleb
And will play LoH until then
tribal wharf
what is this weeks affix in short but accurate
something about, debuff, healer has to remove we have to heal
lofty warren
The buffs must be server side if the game can be "up" while they are pushed?
tribal wharf
the way it describes it is like "you will have to pay the bill"
(the amount of the bill is not specified btw)
mighty valley
The buffs must be server side if the game can be "up" while they are pushed?
this is what a hotfix is, a change you can make without restart
ivory barn
"here is a cookie without the topping, toppings are in a different area" 
lofty warren
this is what a hotfix is, a change you can make without restart
imo the buffs are nice but dont think these baby buffs/nerfs are going to move things around in tier list
frosty mango
this is what a hotfix is, a change you can make without restart
Hotfix = backend only, deployment = client side needed
I’ve tried to explain this for years but not one seems to understand
lusty grotto
i mean pepega is a dev, he should know this
ivory barn
Hotfix = backend only, deployment = client side needed
I’ve tried to explain th...
Gotta love coding
lusty grotto
im being serious
sharp gale
Vibe coding
frosty mango
Vibe coding
I code while vibing is that vibe coding
sharp gale
I wish we would be in a timeline where pepega is a Blizz dev
That would be the biggest cinema
frosty mango
Pepega doesn’t live in india so that timeline is far away
Well, he might live in India
But I don’t think he does
opal ledge
interesting
i was about to roll terrace, only 3 drops left so a shield would be a guarantee... but leech... hmm
plush tendon
interesting
i was about to roll terrace, only 3 drops left so a shield would be...
you prob just take shield now yea?
Is there something else from MT you want?
undone beacon
i see that pbox hiding under the tooltips
opal ledge
i'm missing shield legs and the jelly replicator from there (i dont want the trinket)
yes another mythic puzzle pox., thried time this cursed item shows up
plush tendon
hmmmm
ivory barn
You can keep it, I don't want one
plush tendon
you have 2/3 chance right now in MT in getting a upgrade
if you take shield, that number drops to 1/3
lofty warren
i mean pepega is a dev, he should know this
Well sure but idk how wow architecture is lots of desktop apps forced update or at least app restart
opal ledge
would be nice to get the legs from terrace....
but i risk getting 2 shields.
BUT... this is a shield with LEECH i like that
plush tendon
its prob not a huge deal either way
undone beacon
just take the shield, its guaranteed to be equipped right this second
mighty valley
Hotfix = backend only, deployment = client side needed
I’ve tried to explain th...
i was at riot when they did their first ever balance hotfix, it was pretty fun to watch a bunch of stressed out producers staring at streams, praying that nothing would explode lol
lusty grotto
Well sure but idk how wow architecture is lots of desktop apps forced update or ...
wdym, its not unlike any other games where there's backend+server and clientside
plush tendon
if I were you, Im taking shield, and looking to target a new dungeon with bonus rolls
undone beacon
^
lofty warren
Im not gonna touch the do I live in india thing or I might make a joke that I would think is funny but others might not
undone beacon
npx time, big ring gamer
opal ledge
yeah im doing that...which dungeon now? idk
plush tendon
whats your loadout?
ivory barn
npx time, big ring gamer
I'm 3 rolls away from a light ring
undone beacon
I'm 3 rolls away from a light ring <:sadge:820202363359854633>
the odds get better the more you roll 
ivory barn
There is a 1/3 chance then 1/2 chance this week 
ivory barn
so you have a 66% chance this week
fringe mural
If i get shoulders tomorrow remind me not to take the bonus roll like last time
lofty warren
wdym, its not unlike any other games where there's backend+server and clientside
Sure. In apps I worked on even if there was a backend change there was functionality to force users to restart app (since that is simpler than showing users errors)
fringe mural
and keep my champ shoulders
ivory barn
Watch it come out of vault today instead lol
lusty grotto
Sure. In apps I worked on even if there was a backend change there was functiona...
maybe in legacy apps
lofty warren
Yes they were legacy/warehouse bs glad I dont need yo deal with printer bs anymore
harsh trellis
Doesn't matter nobody should be dealing with printer bs
Print nightmare broke everything yay
ivory barn
"my printer stopped working" ok then just reinstall the driver... "But that's too complicated"
lofty warren
Nim what's your take on wowhead saying pwar st went up by 5-6%
ivory barn
That website is the shit gets fixed
lofty warren
Well i still use wowhead to see whatever posts not the pwar guide. All of wowhead is corrupt and bad now?
ivory barn
Wowhead destroys anything it touches
velvet knot
I seethe whenever i see this.
jagged pier
velvet knot
no.
harsh trellis
Wowhead caused the toilet paper shortage
ivory barn
one day prot will be the best tank
Yeah, ignore pain gets nerfed then we suck again
silent shard
one day prot will be the best tank
Naaah, we will live for an entire season like in BFA S4, then we will be dumped again for years 😄
velvet knot
Naaah, we will live for an entire season like in BFA S4, then we will be dumped ...
i still think about bfa season 4
And the first few weeks of DF
I'll also never forget the first few weeks pre and post launch of shadowlands where this whole channel was on suicide watch
And we just spammed 
all day
harsh trellis
Lol
plush tendon
you say it like its been years
harsh trellis
I remember monday
velvet knot
that was literally last season
prot wasn't /that/ good last season
harsh trellis
Sure it was
velvet knot
all of the tank specs were pretty neck and neck
harsh trellis
Vdh was the go to. But prot was fine
velvet knot
yeah exactly
shrewd cosmos
that was literally last season
Not that big of a margin leke brew now
velvet knot
prot hasn't been out far and ahead since season 1 of df and then they nerfed it into the ground 3 times
plush tendon
yall are remembering wrong
S3 of War Within was a Prot War season, with Prot Pal, Brew, and bear being viable alternatives
lusty grotto
Nim what's your take on wowhead saying pwar st went up by 5-6%
i mean its wrong but its also sandbagging aoe so thats not really a bad thing
opal ledge
it's not indestructible but it's a dream ❤️
undone beacon
it's not indestructible but it's a dream ❤️
🔥
velvet knot
i'd do things for an indestructable shield
lusty grotto
Vdh was the go to. But prot was fine
???
what
prot war was absolutely meta last season
tf are you and xerantis talking about
jagged gust
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xLJdpWnMqzg7CTXb?fight=9&type=damage-done
We were pretty okay in S2 as well
opal ledge
🔥
i can repair mid battle with blacksmith, infinite free repair, so i think leech is better xD
velvet knot
vdh was like 3rd place behind prot pally and warrior
harsh trellis
Was that s1?
harsh trellis
No im asking
lusty grotto
s3
sand condor
funny 12 weekly key
harsh trellis
Vdh was the pick tank at some point in tww
undone beacon
In the top 100 TWW s3 keys, only 7 didnt have pwarr
lofty warren
Tww s1 = pwar/ppal
S2 = vdh
S3= pwar
lusty grotto
warrior was meta for the entirety of BFA, save for one season where there was a tie, and we were meta s3 of TWW, we've had plenty of meta seasons
jagged gust
I wish S3 wasn't so ass, meta spec and zero will to play
plush tendon
warrior was meta for the entirety of BFA, save for one season where there was a ...
not for season 1 of BFA
velvet knot
warrior was meta for the entirety of BFA, save for one season where there was a ...
BFA is when ignore pain came off the GCD
and it turned us into gods
plush tendon
they had to make a change part way through to let us block range attacks and IP off GCD
If I remember correctly
lusty grotto
BFA is when ignore pain came off the GCD
no, that aint it
plush tendon
plus the extra system were super good for Prot War
velvet knot
no, that aint it
8.1 irrc
plush tendon
good artifact traits and then those neck traits
velvet knot
no, that aint it
its the battle of dazar alor patch
thats when ignore pain was moved off the GCD and everything became wonderful
lusty grotto
it was BoMx3 DC, no cd TC bootyclaps and battle shout for outlaw that made us meta
fucking reaping
lofty warren
Pwar was not bis tank in m+ in all of sl if I recall. It was vdh and bear
velvet knot
oh i remember that trait
velvet knot
rememnber getting demo shout up every 5 seconds?
velvet knot
Pwar was not bis tank in m+ in all of sl if I recall. It was vdh and bear
SL was our dark times.
jagged gust
dude the full spam TC and demo with no GCD
plush tendon
Pwar was not bis tank in m+ in all of sl if I recall. It was vdh and bear
VDh was early, I think S2 of SL had a lot of variance but Prot Pal was the pick I think? then S3/S4 Blood DK with Prot War just behind it
jagged gust
bring me back
lusty grotto
IP being on gcd wasnt it, we were fucking slamming zul on Uldir
everyone regular here was absolutely destroying dps roles
except for sub
velvet knot
Pwar was not bis tank in m+ in all of sl if I recall. It was vdh and bear
SL is when they messed up our talent tree so bad that this channel was on suicide watch
plush tendon
Regardless, the point was that saying "one day" to prot being meta is a bit dramatic considering Prot War for years has either been meta or meta adjacent
velvet knot
everyone regular here was absolutely destroying dps roles
remember asssination rogue during season 4? BFA
with like 10 different dots
lusty grotto
Regardless, the point was that saying "one day" to prot being meta is a bit dram...
ye
lusty grotto
no target caps
velvet knot
Azerite was not that fun to grind but the dungeons in BFA are still some of the best to this day
siege of dazar alor was one of the best raids of all time
harsh trellis
I hated shadowlands
dusky canopy
Nyalotha is my all time favorite patch so far I think ngl
dusky canopy
I loved corruption gaming
harsh trellis
Same
plush tendon
Corruption+covid gaming was BiS
harsh trellis
I noped out when they went all in on the maw
velvet knot
and then they gave us the 'CITY OF SECRETS' which was just more maw
lofty warren
Korthia grind for power was terrible
velvet knot
they were told like 100000 times it was a shit idea in the beta
velvet knot
and they said they would 'pull the ripcord' and didn't
SL was the height of devs being smug
velvet knot
Korthia grind for power was terrible
omg i remember that
lusty grotto
for the maw (and torghast) to be good they should have leaned into roguelike difficulty, but they couldn't do it cause the average WoW player is just not looking into that in this game
torghast was good in beta
the maw was good in beta
velvet knot
I do genuinely enjoy midnight though. I just hope we don't flipflop around into randomly themed raids like we did in war within because that shit was dosorientating
velvet knot
for the maw (and torghast) to be good they should have leaned into roguelike dif...
forcing you to run it over and over again for player power killed it
harsh trellis
Torg was fun.
chilly brook
The whole pull the ripcord thing was twitch shit
It wasn't though? It was from an interview with Ion
harsh trellis
Now we have delves
velvet knot
It wasn't though? It was from an interview with Ion
^^
pulsar slate
Hows prot feeling after the buffs?
lusty grotto
either way, SL sucking was a combination of things, not just one
lusty grotto
it feels the same
pulsar slate
Parsing a little higher?
velvet knot
3-4% dmg boost so basiially the same
velvet knot
brb lemme go raid for you and get subpar logs
pulsar slate
I'm on days off sucks to suck lol
plush tendon
do you think we raid at 2:47 pm?
I wish
lofty warren
I disliked having to pay a doubling fee every time I wanted to change my azerite talents in bfa
chilly brook
either way, SL sucking was a combination of things, not just one
The worst part of it was that the raiding content and M+ was actually pretty good, it was just some silly decisions design wise and a REALLY FUCKING STUPIDLY HANDLED story/lore aspect that ruined SL
velvet knot
I disliked having to pay a doubling fee every time I wanted to change my azerite...
was that a thing i dont remember that
i thought you could just swap them
plush tendon
yea
lofty warren
In the beginning you had to pay and it doubled every time
plush tendon
youd have to get multiple sets of Azerite armor
velvet knot
OMG i remember that
plush tendon
and reforge costs were ever increasing
chilly brook
And she's back
uhhhh did you watch the cinematic?
velvet knot
I think bfa might be the most player power we have ever had though right?
Neck
Neck traits from various patches.
Azerite power
Corruption
Probably some other shit im thinking of. Didn't we have a head enchant?
chilly brook
She pretty much implied that she's barely started her penance
harsh trellis
Ah
velvet knot
i just did the questline for 12.0.7 on the ptr, its pretty fun
some major shit happens so lore ppl got stuff to feast on
jagged gust
I stopped reading the lore or watching the cutscenes back in SL
Who cares why im punching this big fire/shadow/ice thing
velvet knot
on the contrary i read all quest text and i have all the wow books
velvet knot
I'm a filthy rper
undone beacon
i dont do questlines on the ptr cuz im just gonna have to do em again on retail
lusty grotto
youre also dangling dangerously close to spoilers
next time i watch something you like ill just drop the casual "SOME MAJOR SHIT HAPPENS"
undone beacon
"and then all the elves and the trolls and the alliance and the horde KISSED"
lusty grotto
totally unneeded comment on your part
velvet knot
*"and then all the elves and the trolls and the alliance and the horde KISSED"*
oh pash has done the quest
opal ledge
why i'm being decline in 12's with 3300 and 281 whats going on
undone beacon
12.1 new feature: realistic smooching minigame
jagged gust
garrosh woulda calmed down if arthas just smooched him now and then
undone beacon
thrall and garrosh sittin in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g
velvet knot
who would win in a fight. old-god roided garrosh or the lich king
lofty warren
why i'm being decline in 12's with 3300 and 281 whats going on
Pwar hotfixed to f tier on tier list
jagged gust
id put my money on lichy boi
undone beacon
I'll say roided garrosh
lusty grotto
who would win in a fight. old-god roided garrosh or the lich king
omniman
next question
undone beacon
he literally ate the heart of y'sharaaj thats kinda goated
sharp gale
That’s disgusting
dusky canopy
What did we almost spoil?
lusty grotto
you guys are gross
velvet knot
What did we almost spoil?
next patch where the elven tribes and trolls gather to become friends and kiss
opal ledge
idk if i roll on seat for the gloves and haste ring... or spire for the heart of wind
dusky canopy
next patch where the elven tribes and trolls gather to become friends and kiss
Ahh thanks
undone beacon
idk if i roll on seat for the gloves and haste ring... or spire for the heart of...
have you rolled in either one yet
opal ledge
have you rolled in either one yet
no
dusky canopy
Guys next patch the elves & trolls gather around and makeout did you hear about that!?
undone beacon
Guys next patch the elves & trolls gather around and makeout did you hear about ...
holy shit
chilly brook
Guys next patch the elves & trolls gather around and makeout did you hear about ...
I mean I'd smash zul'jara or w/e her name is
or get smashed more likely
velvet knot
I mean I'd smash zul'jara or w/e her name is
shes not there sadly 😔
dusky canopy
or get smashed more likely
undone beacon
zul'jara and liadrin are kissing in murder row away from the crowds
lusty grotto
go on...
lusty grotto
goddamn it
jagged gust
did those weird spider troll people from TWW ever show back up?
velvet knot
i think they were called a haraanoir or something and nah i dont think so
chilly brook
we throw them a gay centaur wedding like in DF
the dumbest most pandering questline
lofty warren
Wow doesnt have characters kiss? Its world of WARcraft
harsh trellis
That's was mists
sharp gale
warcRAFT
velvet knot
Irrc this is the only kiss ever shown in wow
undone beacon
waRCraft
velvet knot
i cant believe they would pander to the straights like this
sharp gale
wrong in wow I kiss a lot of ppl
undone beacon
Irrc this is the only kiss ever shown in wow
What about the three hour cutscene of me kissing the jailer
lusty grotto
warBUTTcraft
chilly brook
remember when relationship quests in WoW were about a dude asking you to find his dead wife and then committing genocide?
harsh trellis
In the Arantruim
lusty grotto
can we all just join in our love for butts
chilly brook
can we all just join in our love for butts
I'm more of a boob guy
lusty grotto
ok feet, idk what you people like anymore
chilly brook
sorry
sharp gale
Yeah that’s disgusting
harsh trellis
Feet is so last tier
undone beacon
I think the new meta is collarbones and armpits
sharp gale
Fur, nim, you should know that
velvet knot
im so over femboys, i liked them when they weren't fotm
lusty grotto
yes, fur, there you go
undone beacon
im so over femboys, i liked them when they weren't fotm
sharp gale
undone beacon
fotm or not I’ll never reroll
velvet knot
now everyone is rerolling femboy
undone beacon
For good reason
lusty grotto
I'm more of a boob guy
imo they are close, but butt wins by a little bit 
sharp gale
Nah they are wrong bc bottom
harsh trellis
What is considered femboy the dragons?
undone beacon
anyone can be femboy
Until they go through twink death
It’s a battle we fight every day
harsh trellis
Death by snu snu?
velvet knot
the path of a femboy is one that ends in two roads
You either become a butch man or you start taking estrogen
Twink death comes for us all
harsh trellis
Do we have a good fashion sense at least at deaths door?
velvet knot
Praise be moonguard tradechat
undone beacon
Estrogen scares me so eventually I’ll perish and it’ll be fine
undone beacon
Praise be moonguard tradechat
Moonguard seems hellish
velvet knot
I have gotten some horrible whispers
Downright disgusting
Like i cant show them here theyre that bad
pastel summit
Worst humans imaginable on that realm.
sharp gale
You never saw 1. Raid general chat on French realms
chilly brook
Do we have a good fashion sense at least at deaths door?
idk you like my dorf's fit?
velvet knot
Worst humans imaginable on that realm.
I have 20 pieces of art of my character please send help.
This is my main fit 90% of the time
sharp gale
Raid general chat loves to link an item or ability and add anal to form a wordplay
undone beacon
thats a classic
velvet knot
I have a funny MG specific piece of lore.
The TRP3 addon sometimes bugs out, and will play instance-wide sound effects if someone plays one.
So people will spam cat noises over everyones raids, no matter whos raid:ID theyre in
final jackal
idk you like my dorf's fit?
“Woahyertwo” is funny
chilly brook
“Woahyertwo” is funny
I'm obviously an extremely creative individual
dusky canopy
I haven’t paid attention to crests from bosses in a while it’s like 10 each right? Lol
harsh trellis
idk you like my dorf's fit?
Dwarf looks good
Snape kills Dumbledore
Oh shit spoilers
toxic pewter
12 is basically as difficult as a 10
harsh trellis
He does 10s so he can just tell the affix people how much he loves doom
tribal wharf
it was 10/10 run
harsh trellis
Everybody in 10s is like jfc we've all heard this
tribal wharf
12s + is EVERYONE has to know what they are doing
harsh trellis
But they dont so its like a fortune cookie every time
tribal wharf
10 deaths, keystone is dead
harsh trellis
You dont know what you're gonna get
tribal wharf
doom isnt boring
harsh trellis
Lol
tribal wharf
but its boring when its the only thing on the menu
harsh trellis
I haven't played the latest
tribal wharf
you dont know of, kiss (yes the kiss band):pyscho circus, the nightmare child eh?
harsh trellis
I still want hl3
tribal wharf
a game where you go around as mock band members of kiss, killing clowns and eventually an alien?
im more than just doom
or what was the other one i played, powerslave exhumed
where you are a dude raiding a temple talking to king rhamses
or half life where you are gordon fucking free man
i'm a guy with a weapon
and im here to kill everything
velvet knot
plush tendon
12 is basically as difficult as a 10
honestly, thats a lie
I think this season more people are just running 10s
so you can get a juiced group really easy
and the extra stats from the affix does help quite a bit
toxic pewter
that fair
harsh trellis
and the extra stats from the affix does help quite a bit
Didn't think about that
tribal wharf
in terms of doom, i'll play in UV but i typically dont do slaughter maps or fast monsters enabled
or nightmare
nightmare mode is stupid
you shoot it and then 30 seconds later it just respawns
and you cant cheat or save, to hell with that
for reference, a nightmare map in doom is effectively a +20
wanton void
So I'm curious, what do people think buff wise would need to happen to prot warrior to bring it to the level of brew?
wanton void
Ohhh really? Could you explain how dungeons would need to change?
lusty grotto
the damage profile of current dungeons favors heavily into brew's kit
that includes both stagger and defensives
wanton void
Ahhh interesting, so like rework of the mobs abilities etc in the dungeons?
lusty grotto
either way, its not as massive of a divide as reddit or people make it out to be
we're what? 1-2 keys behind?
plush tendon
Ahhh interesting, so like rework of the mobs abilities etc in the dungeons?
just a new pool of dungeons
lusty grotto
reddit exaggerates everything
mighty valley
also brew became extremely forgiving to play lol
helps when the best is also the hardest to fuck up
plush tendon
Brew's were big winners with the Midnight class pruning
wanton void
I'm not like looking to push super high keys myself so mostly just curious, cause ya you see so much rhetoric on reddit etc
plush tendon
and its always been a decent tank in M+, just not popular enough as a non-meta pick
undone beacon
trying to decide if i want my warlock to be a goblin, forsaken, or nightborne
plush tendon
I'm not like looking to push super high keys myself so mostly just curious, caus...
On reddit, they treat everything like the skys falling
but most people here have played Prot War and other tanks for years
undone beacon
Orc
i guess orc would be the strongest because the racials are really good esp for demo
plush tendon
tank balance ebs and flows and, in reality, its really not that far apart
wanton void
I assume it's not that bad cause I'm at 3k io and I know there's tons of stuff I'm not doing optimally and am doing wrong still
lofty warren
Bear is best tank now m+ up with brew?
lusty grotto
bear isnt even that good
plush tendon
hard to find a place for Prot War; I think people prefer slotting a war as DPS in the melee comp
lusty grotto
people are just looking at MDI thinking that it applies to 20-22s in live
MDI runs 16s
undone beacon
Theres some unintended effects from the thrash changes that makes bear a lot stronger rn iirc
dusky canopy
lofty warren
With the rise of dps war pwar life is gonna be even harder
lusty grotto
brew what we playing this week?
dusky canopy
Arms slayer
lusty grotto
fury slayer seems like it'll slap
plush tendon
yea, super excited to try out some warrior dps
dusky canopy
Yeah but then you have to spec fury
wanton void
Oh speaking of getting better, is there a guide for what are the most important metrics are to monitor in logs? I didn't see anything in pins
dusky canopy
Fury plays execute button on cd so that’s neat
plush tendon
Oh speaking of getting better, is there a guide for what are the most important ...
gather logs, post em here, and we'll look at em. Some easy ones are % of hits blocked, rage economy, and CD usage
lusty grotto
Oh speaking of getting better, is there a guide for what are the most important ...
effective block uptime
rage use
CPM on prio abilities
wanton void
Ohh cool ty!
I think I'm still letting a lot of unspent rage go to waste
I'll get some logs this week and post on here, ty for advice!
lusty grotto
press IP then
naive ravine
And talents
wanton void
press IP then
It's more getting myself to press it at the right time lol
wanton void
For big pulls in 12+ keys I'm still tunnel visioning while gathering the full pack, and then I forget to monitor it sometimes
lusty grotto
IP being up does not matter, people need to keep hitting it regardless
neither does IP being maxed
wanton void
Oh ya that part I've read in guides it's just getting myself out of that tunnel vision, it's a skill issue lol
pastel summit
It's more getting myself to press it at the right time lol
As long as shield block is up then it's the right time
pastel summit
You can pretty safely mash it most of the time
wanton void
Thanks, ya maybe just getting more mashing muscle memory and reps like you said
I also still have a bad habit of turning my back to mobs sometimes when trying to gather everything too
pastel summit
Gonna take infinitely more damage doing that than any sort of micromanaging of ip
lofty warren
I probably should know this already but.. in pos when the guy tries to frost slash you, what happens if you are super far away/jumps to next pack?
pastel summit
Because no shield block suddenly every hit is a cinderblock in your face
pastel summit
I probably should know this already but.. in pos when the guy tries to frost sla...
The graveblade? iirc it still just hits you
wanton void
Ya, I feel like sometimes I think I'm at an angle where it should be strafing it but I mis judge it and it's actually hitting my back
stoic hound
effective block uptime
rage use
CPM on prio abilities
could you please elaborate?
You mean this?
pastel summit
Is that 4% shield block uptime
lusty grotto
youre spamming IP, and you shouldn't
pastel summit
Yeah, don't be slamming ip unless block is up
lusty grotto
your rage use is gonna be wild
pastel summit
Hm.
harsh trellis
Earlier up in the threads here someone else was talking about ip usage and I believe if im not mistaken it was suggested you mash it regardless.
lusty grotto
im confused.... you only press SB 2.9 times per minute?
its a good observation but its better to just look at effective uptime
plush tendon
I guess Id have to see full log
pastel summit
You are basically safe to spam it assuming shield block is up, yeah.
stoic hound
that was pos with constant chains, guess I should have used more revenge
plush tendon
Revenge is useless
as MT*
pastel summit
Colo is useless
lusty grotto
from this snippet the takeaway is:
- IP overuse, IP should NEVER be higher CPM than SS or TC/TB, this also means rage misuse and starvation
- SS and TC/TB should be 15 CPM more or less, this denotes less rage gen (and way less damage)
the rest don't matter, but some fair assumptions can be done
plush tendon
Colo is useless
pastel summit
Need another 30% execute buff
Because it's crazy we have to spend our defensive resource
lusty grotto
augusto, depending on length
90% (the bare minimum) effective uptime with HR
is 4.9 CPM
so yes
youre right
plush tendon
lusty grotto
this person probably has work to do on effective uptime
which is hurting them defensively in all aspects
stoic hound
yes, effective uptime was very low here, 72% only 🙁
pastel summit
never need rage for anythin else
frosty mango
and ip perma
Well no - tww bear ironfur spam was more about staying alive
undone beacon
TWW bear ironfur spam was because it was our highest damage spender for the rage spent
frosty mango
War isn’t really spammy like that, when you press your rage dumps is important
frosty mango
TWW bear ironfur spam was because it was our highest damage spender for the rage...
Ya and not having ironfur meant you died, lol
So many Druids rolling into like 6 packs with no ironfur just getting clapped
First pull of floodgate was always heinous when I was healing
undone beacon
Ya and not having ironfur meant you died, lol
Well that too, but Thorns of Iron meant there was no decision making, you just always sent IF
frosty mango
Well that too, but Thorns of Iron meant there was no decision making, you just a...
Yea I loved my bear
So many r1 parses bc no one played it right
Ripweaving dotc in raid was peak gameplay
undone beacon
It was fantastic for getting guildies their weekly keys without any thought involved, and then catweaving in raid for big dammies
frosty mango
Rip quesadillas, I didn’t level him this season
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
vulpera
lusty grotto
wow @toxic pewter did you see that?
abstract arch
Mechagnome
pastel summit
Well no - tww bear ironfur spam was more about staying alive
Yeah, neither shield block nor ignore pain are about survival.
frosty mango
Shield block is very much survival
frosty mango
Ignore pain isn’t
toxic pewter
wow <@185160009074737153> did you see that?
lusty grotto
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
dw i will make a vulpera to honor you
toxic pewter
Pash hate small fox cuz of goblin race things
toxic pewter
It is ok tbh I also would like to see kelfin to be fair
sharp gale
Gnome>vulpera>gobbo>mechagnome
abstract arch
Human>>>>>>everything else
lofty warren
The graveblade? iirc it still just hits you
Oh ok. Well at least kt still hits you and not like it targets closest teammate
toxic pewter
ngl the sethrak people really hate us
toxic pewter
I lean toward regular dwarf myself
sharp gale
Human>>>>>>everything else
Tom Bombathrill would play gnome
undone beacon
But idk if I can do alli
pastel summit
Shield block is very much survival
You don't say.
lofty warren
Yoda made a video where he said in s1 dark iron is better than regular dwarf for tanks.. but I image thw diff is not noticable/its situational
abstract arch
Tom Bombathrill would play gnome
Nah, old tom is probably a panda
undone beacon
Im thinkin of going panda
If I played alli I’d do panda female or dark iron but idk
toxic pewter
to this day i love the panda animations
they really need to like just bring back more racial animations
sharp gale
Murloks.
lofty warren
Is it bad to say thay esthetically I like gnome best
lusty grotto
i like gnome as well
plush tendon
But idk if I can do alli
your factions are merely a social construct
sharp gale
Gnome propaganda 
abstract arch
At this point does the horde even exist?
sharp gale
Im reminded every time I go to my house in horde neighborhood
toxic pewter
At this point does the horde even exist?
They need to bring back a warchief that the first thing they do is execute the entire horde council
like that will be the start of the arc
sharp gale
This war chief needs to be a red orc
toxic pewter
Lol
abstract arch
True but never gonna happen sadly
toxic pewter
the horde needs a warchief race that has survived the most grim conditions, savvy when it comes to trade, perhaps an individual that has roamed or been part of a caravan
sharp gale
No vulpera, no
mighty valley
apb cooking...
toxic pewter
LOL
abstract arch
Vulpera it is lel
frosty mango
You don't say.
@lusty grotto says and that’s good enough for me
undone beacon
breaks trinket curse
immediately vies for warchief of the horde
smh
toxic pewter
I WILL STRING UP THE SO CALLED COUNCIL ALONG THE GATES OF ORGRIMMAR
sharp gale
Mekkatorque should be the war chief.
toxic pewter
>breaks trinket curse
>immediately vies for warchief of the horde
smh
In true Horde fashion of course
undone beacon
Neri Sharpfin should be the warchief
undone beacon
vulpera hate is so manufactured
My vulpera hate is justified
mighty valley
might start calling it a psyop, that sounds fun
toxic pewter
It runs deeep tbh
mighty valley
My vulpera hate is justified
how are YOU gonna be a vulpera hater
undone beacon
how are YOU gonna be a vulpera hater
Because they deprived us of my beloved water goblins as an allied race
toxic pewter
I dont get it myself like irl foxes arent really hated
undone beacon
Also im a femboy not a furry >:(
sharp gale
What have they done to you
toxic pewter
people like star fox
undone beacon
femboys, furries, and weebs are often interlinked but its not a constant
sharp gale
Petrol goblin would go hard
toxic pewter
I think its the tail unironically
mighty valley
vulpera don't even give me any stronger furry vibes than any of the other animal-ish races
undone beacon
See but I dont hate vulpera because they are furries
I hate them because they're not blue fish goblins
toxic pewter
lol
mighty valley
i just mean most loud vulpera haters are rah rah for the horde beefy orc man insecure masculinity types
toxic pewter
I can at least respect that vs the horde of sethrak people
sharp gale
vulpera don't even give me any stronger furry vibes than any of the other animal...
Worgen is more furry than vulpera
mighty valley
i was not claiming you to be a furry, i apologize if that was the takeaway
undone beacon
i just mean most loud vulpera haters are rah rah for the horde beefy orc man ins...
Those people are cringe, I agree
mighty valley
(also nothing against furries, they won the war, sry)
sharp gale
rawr
jagged gust
isnt their racial a dps loss or something
pastel summit
<@131897531251556352> says and that’s good enough for me
Ehhh.
jagged gust
silly little bear things
toxic pewter
isnt their racial a dps loss or something
lol ngl def dead last in the sims when it comes to dps
but the quality of life of the other racials not bad imo
pastel summit
Against all odds we persevere.
undone beacon
People who hate Vulpera because they are foxes or furries or whatever is cringe psyop, people who hate Vulpera because it makes no sense when Kelfin were right there and worked so much better, that’s cool and epic
sharp gale
6 more max rage and 1% haste is my QoL
undone beacon
Vulpera are goblins with fur smh
mighty valley
kelfin just weren't far enough from goblins and they mostly try to use allied races to cheaply add a new flavor to a faction. that or drastically expand the range of elfs
undone beacon
kelfin just weren't far enough from goblins and they mostly try to use allied ra...
Here is a new flavor of orc, they have a different skin color
pastel summit
Goblins also suck and nobody likes or cares about them so.
undone beacon
These Tauren have antlers
opal ledge
got some really bad rolls on seat lol
pastel summit
They updated goblin visaully and it got worse
and they didn't even bother with the hair
into the bin (with colo)
mighty valley
i'm not a goblin person but goblin likers are ok in my book. love those little weirdos
jagged gust
antler taurens are hella tall tho, so they got that going for them
undone beacon
I pity the soul that cannot enjoy a goblin
pastel summit
Can't since they ruined them.
undone beacon
Such funny little guys
Give me my goblin car in every zone
Let me breakneck down the dead scar
toxic pewter
omg i miss my car
pastel summit
crashes violently because I hit a lunchbox
jagged gust
drive system was so terribly implemented
pastel summit
The zone just had to not be so angled
toxic pewter
i thought it was great 🤷♂️
pastel summit
they needed to smooth out the zone or somethin so it didn't feel so annoying to drive and slam into stuff in 3 seconds
oh my bad i hit the one stick in the entire zone
lusty grotto
sounds to me like skill issue
pastel summit
Can't imagine why they didn't keep it around
Although a bit of variety in vehicles with disabled flying was a good idea
sharp gale
Should be able to drive a car in neighborhoods
jagged gust
NIMBY
toxic pewter
i want to park my car on my yard
sharp gale
It’s not our problem if they didn’t make that resident area walkable
toxic pewter
they should add 10 lane highways to the neighborhoods
undone beacon
I was really hoping that DRIVE was the start of dynamic ground mounts as an evergreen feature but
Alas
pastel summit
Ya.
lusty grotto
Should be able to drive a car in neighborhoods
frosty mango
I was really hoping that DRIVE was the start of dynamic ground mounts as an ever...
Yea I agree, drive was so cool
pastel summit
I dont think we move away from curent model forever
a bit of variety to flying might be nice tho
like the lightning rush thing
undone beacon
Would be neat enough in a .5 or .7 to bring them back with a racing minigame/event in old zones
pastel summit
u see those cup races
frosty mango
You know they 100% had an undermine boss that used the drive setup and ditched it bc people were terrible at it lol
pastel summit
on a 2 year rotation
lusty grotto
I WILL MAKE MY HOUSE HAPPY
pastel summit
i forgot northrend and am missing like 5 achis now for months
lusty grotto
IF THAT HAPPENS
pastel summit
do rats get houses
toxic pewter
would be fun to drive from winterspring to silithus or quel thalas to booty bay
undone beacon
You know they 100% had an undermine boss that used the drive setup and ditched i...
I’m still convinced they were going to make the Gallagio an actual place to go and then scrapped it with wordsoul saga
frosty mango
I’m still convinced they were going to make the Gallagio an actual place to go a...
Undermine as a whole had so much potential
And they threw it away so we could get what, lightbloom?
jagged gust
I was really hoping that DRIVE was the start of dynamic ground mounts as an ever...
lol, lmao even. But actually there's highways in that one zone near org with all the goblins
frosty mango
Fuck Azeroth give me casino mini games
toxic pewter
ya in azshara
undone beacon
lol, lmao even. But actually there's highways in that one zone near org with all...
The azshara rocketway yeah
sharp gale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDxIatgsrLM
Thx you reminded me I spent so many gold for my house in ff and realized it got likely sold back
undone beacon
Don’t forget thousand needles
Too bad it’s flooded
frosty mango
We just need a storyline where the goblins drain it
sharp gale
Should be a 10 lane highway bridge between kalimdor and teldrassil
jagged gust
I haven't been to thousand needles since TBC, it's probably drained by now
undone beacon
give us an instanced version of the old kalimdor/eastern kingdoms and then give us a breakneck race through the old zones
Imagine starting in winterspring and racing to silithus
vroom vroom
undone beacon
lusty grotto
i just wanna race around the neighborhood recreating that FFXIV tokyo drift tribute while playing non-meta classes in group queue
sharp gale
I miss tortollans WQs
undone beacon
theres literally a perfect line along the healed dead scar in new eversong
sharp gale
That labyrinth one
lusty grotto
drift forever
crisp ocean
if you miss the bonus rolls from previous weeks you can get them all?
undone beacon
if you miss the bonus rolls from previous weeks you can get them all?
Yep, its a seasonal cap
lusty grotto
yup
crisp ocean
damn thats cool asf
toxic pewter
yeah the bonus roll system is wild and we still got upgrade next week
undone beacon
So when you get an alt to cap, grab your rerolls and make a friend carry you through one dungeon at +10 over and over and get the entire loot table
That gonna be my plan for warlock
hit 90, get delve gear, spam spire 10 until i have every item
sharp gale
It is goated addition, maybe lil early but it’s so good
toxic pewter
that gearing idea is smart
lusty grotto
its a massively good cook for alts (too bad you still gotta grind fucking crests)
undone beacon
2 per week but its up to a seasonal cap
sharp gale
its a massively good cook for alts (too bad you still gotta grind fucking crests...
I finally caught up on my monk, now I’m starting hunter journey it’s rly rough
pastel summit
So when you get an alt to cap, grab your rerolls and make a friend carry you thr...
Remember to do a +11 first with your sangbag buddy so they get their own 10
undone beacon
so if you get a fresh char to 90 this week, you can grab 6 rerolls and spend em
pastel summit
ain't nobody wanting that stsinky lil 9
crisp ocean
alright ty
sharp gale
You can also do neighborhood quest and take champ crests if you quickly need some, it’s like 60
abstract arch
Lmao
undone beacon
we're doing WHAT to nullaeus
opal ledge
how many itens we will be able to put to 298 at first? just one?
undone beacon
The fact that it gives you 30 uncapped crests tho is fucking dumb because im now stuck at 10 myth crests after upgrades every week
pastel summit
and blizz spaces out crumbs of ilev
abstract arch
Its trinkets and weapons
pastel summit
cos 99% of people only log in for ilev crumbs
pastel summit
The fact that it gives you 30 uncapped crests tho is fucking dumb because im now...
somebody i know has 7 crests
undone beacon
toxic pewter
just got @lofty warren fav trinket
opal ledge
i made a mistake with my crests x.x
i upgraded my gloves, i should kept using the voidclaw gloves even on hero for the haste, now i need to be luck on rolls on seat
and i still need the heart of wind mythic, so 2 dungeons to clear
seat and spire
coral quartz
Guys's narrowly missed the timer on 15 AA i'm currently using tactyks route it has the serpents in the pull I know somepeople skip them is it more efficent to do the skip?
Just the route on three chest
pastel summit
Guys's narrowly missed the timer on 15 AA i'm currently using tactyks route it ...
Which route
I think some sneks then skip two casters at the end is nice
then doin the slammers in either one or two pulls
lusty grotto
i only pull 1 ravager
coral quartz
https://threechest.io?id=kpovnxqswc this one mate
lusty grotto
in the entire dungeon
pastel summit
although my 19 had like 1 sec left so take with grain of salt
coral quartz
Yeah it went smooth there was couple deaths but was wondering if it's wasting time
pastel summit
i dislike the ravvy pack as you land
lusty grotto
yeah that one is skipped for basically everyone
pastel summit
tepid sparrow
1 ravager sounds nice
lofty warren
just got <@167436462101364737> fav trinket
rank 1 parse inc
pastel summit
pastel summit
well ig it's kill the 5 outside and chain the 1-2 in as slams go off
rather than straight into last boss
coral quartz
are you stealthing past the casters?
pastel summit
gated past
pastel summit
if we dont have lock we're usually monk priest aug so wyrnstone grip roll etc
i think stealth works
cos our mage invised it
cos he was dumb
and couldnt figure out that he needed to be on the mammoth
before i got gripped up
lusty grotto
you just yak it up and evoker rescues
harsh trellis
Dk pets can pull right?
lusty grotto
but honestly none of this is needed in 15s
or 16s
or 17s
or 18s
probably needed in 19s or up
coral quartz
Yeah fair enough
lusty grotto
it is if they are pugging
pastel summit
not really
lusty grotto
brother hes doing 15s
pastel summit
if lock knows then its fine
lusty grotto
yes, really
pastel summit
otherwise ya
can skip it
its same as skip in magisters at the end
lock just throws gate
lofty warren
Today before patch a demo lock was pulling mobs in a 3 mile radius. Has that been fixed? It was the 2nd demo to so it
pastel summit
no immense learning curve and considerable brick potential
lusty grotto
youre entirely missing the point kennie