No way you still don’t have myth weapon
#protection
jagged pier
i still have a hc one
for a shitty 10 man alt run without buff and ahc wep
ill take these
and these 
ignore the nexus one
maiden ravine
I'm using a heroic shield and weapon til I chain run skyreach enough but I have to imagine 22 ilvls on a shield is a decent bit of tankiness.
jagged pier
this bug in logs annoys me no end tho
have this on leaderboard
open log get an extra 6k dps
asked ppl from warcraft logs about it cause i noticed like 2 seasons ago, they had no answers for me
compact silo
why does it feel like shields broke slower last exp? by the time i finish a dungeon my shield could be sub 50% without even dying
crisp ocean
in a key just now, the other players kept getting aggro from the boss/mobs are they taunting or is it my problem
jagged pier
same pace as always
jagged pier
in a key just now, the other players kept getting aggro from the boss/mobs are t...
thats a u problem
warm plinth
Without a log, we have no way of knowing that. But it would be weird for an accidental taunt to happen multiple times.
opal ledge
man they just buffed the no apex drud build by 45% dmg lol
thats insane
crisp ocean
thats a u problem
im using thunderclap whenever its up
jagged pier
it changes nothing
crisp ocean
so idk why
jagged pier
its still dumb to run no apex
opal ledge
why we only got like 5% buff?
compact silo
i still have a hc one
im doing 17s with champion weapon 😄
opal ledge
for druid it have a good chance it becames the meta, the no apex build...
200% buff on thrash is too much
jagged pier
no it doesnt
analog lily
Whats the % dmg buff for us？
jagged pier
because y not
analog lily
6%？
opal ledge
something like 5% i think
analog lily
Not bad
compact silo
thunderblast 30% feels massive
crisp ocean
thunderblast 30% feels massive
isnt that only for dps
analog lily
if you have a lot of leech
opal ledge
we could use a small defensive buff... we don't really need it but it would be nice
analog lily
I hope bliz buffs us more damage
So I can leech more lmao
The healing absorbtion is so annoying.
crisp ocean
why do I lose aggro, I was losing aggro in 2nd boss in nexus
compact silo
The healing absorbtion is so annoying.
you can try indomitable instead of enduring alacrity
compact silo
why do I lose aggro, I was losing aggro in 2nd boss in nexus
idk what's your rotation
crisp ocean
idk what's your rotation
I use thunderclap and shield slam whenever its up
compact silo
that's the main part. idk either you have giga dps in your team or you're missing casts or something. ever have downtime where you're not pressing anything?
shouldnt be losing aggro 🤔
crisp ocean
that's the main part. idk either you have giga dps in your team or you're missin...
the guy getting aggro wasnt doing dmg
compact silo
do they attack before you pull the boss?
crisp ocean
seems like he was pressing taunt or smth
warm plinth
Do you have a log?
crisp ocean
do they attack before you pull the boss?
its nexus
analog lily
you can try indomitable instead of enduring alacrity
Yes i did change it to indomitable,but on 17 or 18 nexus is still too much absorption.
compact silo
that still doesnt give us much information about why you get aggro taken off you 🤔
compact silo
Yes i did change it to indomitable,but on 17 or 18 nexus is still too much absor...
well impending victory, pop potions/hs and then hope for healer to do their job 😛
crisp ocean
that still doesnt give us much information about why you get aggro taken off you...
idk what happened
compact silo
battle scarred should save you for a brief time and ig you could somehow take second wind but idk how much that would help lol
calm plaza
anybody have a good prot warrior youtuber/content creator like Sha is for Brewmasters?
need some more resources for dungeon tips
compact silo
though if you use a defensive when they put the heal absorb you shouldnt take too much dmg until it gets healed up. i was doing a 17 and the healer had me topped off in about 3-5 seconds
analog lily
well impending victory, pop potions/hs and then hope for healer to do their job ...
Haha,i was trying to give less pressure to my healer, he is new to healer pos.
jagged pier
almost like indom dont do that much
warm plinth
They're human. They make suboptimal choices too.
compact silo
lmao
warm plinth
In fact, they're why I have this nickname.
compact silo
it seems it's not that suboptimal if they're in first place despite taking it 😛
warm plinth
That statement is made under the assumption that taking a suboptimal talent will somehow make you fail a key, which is a false assumption.
compact silo
idk that's how it feels when everyone spits on it so much
analog lily
Next week,leech more lmao
warm plinth
We shit on it because it's a mediocre talent; why would we encourage or not discourage you from taking it just because some random warrior timed a high key while using it?
compact silo
That statement is made under the assumption that taking a suboptimal talent will...
you went back on your point
jagged pier
i dont know where ppl are getting this from, from a quick look at actual logged 20 keys more ppl are runnign 4 apex than not
warm plinth
...huh?
compact silo
not talking abt apex
warm plinth
Just because you can still time a high key with the talent doesn't mean I'm gonna tell you to use the talent...that would be fucking stupid.
If it's a bad talent, it's a bad talent
Will you fail a key because you took it? No. But it's still bad, and I'm still going to tell you it's bad. That does not conflict with the point I made.
jagged pier
no one running indom in seat
compact silo
it's not the worst by a long shot
jagged pier
it is the worst cause it used to heal for 2% so was worth taking
now i have to have an endless conversation about it be a toss up at best
in genuinely think that LS is our worst talent tho
warm plinth
I would agree with that. Spellbreaker is also really bad but at least it doesn't reward shitty gameplay
abstract arch
anybody have a good prot warrior youtuber/content creator like Sha is for Brewma...
No but sha alts a Colo prot warrior so we can just bully him to make content for it
calm plaza
based
compact silo
what is ls
daring marlin
what is ls
last stand
analog lily
Last stand i used it once lmao.
frosty mango
Last stand still exists?
opal ledge
Last stand still exists?
yeah, it's tied to shield wall now
vocal owl
Hey how Big is the buffs??
toxic pewter
pretty good, pretty pretty pretty pretty good
dusky canopy
vocal owl
How much more damage in keys?
raw perch
anyone can explain how last boss of triumvirate works? i want to spell reflect Lura but I cant get the timing right
frosty mango
anyone can explain how last boss of triumvirate works? i want to spell reflect L...
Press reflect when the spinning thing comes out
Works for me
its a 10 but should be able to see the timing from there
lusty grotto
anyone can explain how last boss of triumvirate works? i want to spell reflect L...
hit reflect at 3 stacks of lura's buff
thats the buff on lura, i forget what its called but its the only one she has that stacks
fringe mural
thats the buff on lura, i forget what its called but its the only one she has th...
thanks i was wondering this as well
raw perch
ty!
fringe mural
i was looking for cues around the boss
rotund lily
quick question , why do i see some people playing only one point in apex while others do full?
lusty grotto
see pins
but
its because it was abeta cook
and they just copied into live
and then everyone else copy pasted
but its no bueno
lusty grotto
that didnt have an impact on it
it was no bueno to go 1/4 before those changes
you just didnt lose 5% dr, now you do
i recommend the standard Icy-Veins builds up to 18+
dont bother with even the pins
you can just swap to BSV easily
lusty grotto
thats what im working on figuring out
rotund lily
or there aren't enough flex points
lusty grotto
so stay tuned
rotund lily
i loved execute dmg in S2 and S3
hollow patio
its a 10 but should be able to see the timing from there
It's slightly suboptimal. You reflected 2/4 per phase but you can reflect 3/4. Need to press the first reflect earlier then it will be ready for the second.
frosty mango
hopefully we dont go back to execute
shrewd moss
I nearly almost always wipe on the first pull of AA doing the full room. I heroic leap away at 4 stacks of poison. Am I too far away from healer or something else? IDK what to do.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dWFVCTyAhHGNg8XB?fight=1
frosty mango
bc that playstyle is ass
frosty mango
I nearly almost always wipe on the first pull of AA doing the full room. I heroi...
the vile cast is a little wierd, they designed it to be hard to kite off
the mobs will continue to cast it if they start the cast while youre in range, if youre in range when the cast starts you cannot out range it no matter how far you go
so you have to wait until no mobs are casting, then leap out, let it drop, charge back
lusty grotto
bc that playstyle is ass
no u
frosty mango
I nearly almost always wipe on the first pull of AA doing the full room. I heroi...
but in this particular case you only had 3 stacks
your healer just failed you
hollow patio
I nearly almost always wipe on the first pull of AA doing the full room. I heroi...
I don't think you should have kited here in the first place. Tell your Evoker to dispell you on 5 stacks and after the dispell you probably don't stack to 5 anymore because stuff starts dying.
frosty mango
if you look at the 10 second window before you die, your healer cast 3 regrowths while you have stacks
I guess technically speaking you did waste a lot of rage in that window (23% of it) but i dont think it would have kept you alive
ignore pain really doesn't do anything in that respect. the evoker should have dispelled you and the druid should have been pumping regrowths into you
playing the kite well may help but I doubt it saves you here, the dot is what killed you and you only had 3 stacks so imo this is not your fault
hollow patio
The Evoker did dispell him. On 3 stacks though
frosty mango
The first time around though, he sent it too early
Still not sure it would have mattered here, really just misplay by the healer
vivid shuttle
Hello, I've joined here to learn about Protection for Raids 🗞️ 🐛
frosty mango
i hate it and ill die on that hill lol
shrewd moss
thanks for the feedback, y'all!
frosty mango
any playstyle that causes your dps to go down as the groups dps goes up because it stuffs your damage into a window that gets smaller and smaller as people gear feels bad and im dyin on muh hill
solid sun
So do higher keys so the enemy health goes back up
frosty mango
yes my stance is counterintuitive to the entire point of execute as a skill, don't judge me
warm plinth
I'd never judge you
vivid shuttle
Copied Mountain Thane Raid build, so here comes the new Prot warr questions
How come are we not using massacre?
Or is it the fact that I am lvl 80 and we get like points from 80 to 90? 
Forgot to think about that, anyway, asking eitherway
jagged pier
How come are we not using massacre?
Because execute isnt worth pressing cause it does no damage atm. That may change on reset sims will tell us int he next couple of days
lusty grotto
Copied Mountain Thane Raid build, so here comes the new Prot warr questions
make sure you copy them from icy veins and not wowhead
vivid shuttle
Ohh wow, how did it even end up like that, well, that's crazy
If i am not wrong I copied from the Discord pins
abstract arch
All my homies hate wowhead
lusty grotto
if you copied from #protection-faq youre good then
vivid shuttle
Yes from there 
undone beacon
Hello, I've joined here to learn about Protection for Raids 🗞️ 🐛
why the newspaper and bug emojis out of curiosity
are you the bug being hit with a newspaper
are we??
vivid shuttle
I am a bug hitting you with newspaper
jagged pier
Oh theres 2 of them now
jagged pier
2 ppl with the same energy
undone beacon
undone beacon
ebon ingot
Yay psyop!!
undone beacon
wicked lantern
Starting to look like Dreamgrove in here, tf
crisp ocean
undone beacon
all the big boy warriors are at the gym its time for the psyopers to crawl out of the woodwork and post cat gifs and be cool and sexy
vivid shuttle
Starting to look like Dreamgrove in here, tf
That's where I came from, that's why 🔫🐛
drowsy atlas
I'm in the shower
drowsy atlas
Its shower hour
undone beacon
I spent plenty of time in bear discord when i was big bear time for prog
undone beacon
Its shower hour
i should shower i just got done with my weekly hike
Gotta stay in semblance of shape
fringe mural
I'm in the shower
Why do you have your phone in the
fringe mural
Oh wait nevermind
drowsy atlas
Exactly
undone beacon
https://klipy.com/gifs/ban-hammer-6--k01KQN9X8KPJ9EHZ94KS4SHSP5Y
@dankmemebank2
fringe mural
Carry on
lusty grotto
@dankmemebank2
only the best dank memes
fringe mural
That's like the lotion you see on people's rig photos
you don't judge
You just notice
drowsy atlas
Just scrolling skyhub for cat gifts as Iet the one button rotation wash me
fringe mural
uhuh
undone beacon
one button rotation only does basic shower rotation, doesnt hit your exfoliation cooldowns
abstract arch
fringe mural
one button rotation only does basic shower rotation, doesnt hit your exfoliation...
you know full well straight dudes don't exfoliate
fringe mural
there was this picture let me grab it
undone beacon
you know full well straight dudes don't exfoliate
which is a shame because women like dudes with nice skin
fringe mural
undone beacon
like just take care of yo damn self you dont gotta be like me to have proper skin smh
undone beacon
this makes me sad
undone beacon
Yeah but I'm not looking to parse im a casual shower goer
mythic shower prog is fun tho
drowsy atlas
Just my bum front and pits
tribal wharf
undone beacon
jakey hired the dreamgrovers to be gay and do crime in skyhold or something
solid sun
Where’s cat to spritz all you down
ebon ingot
No crime just love!
solid sun
undone beacon
No crime just love!
little of both 
solid sun
Pash is constantly in flux between crime lord and harem influencer
I think it’s a harem. I had to reach down deep in the bag for that word
undone beacon
You're right on the money. Good word
solid sun
I think both positions take enough brain juice you gotta focus on one or the other
undone beacon
You'd be surprised
lusty grotto
abstract arch
Wife rolled it on her vault from the one +10 I dragged her on
frosty mango
you know full well straight dudes don't exfoliate
That’s a lie, I exfoliate
I ain’t gonna be looking like tanning mom
undone beacon
That’s a lie, I exfoliate
and i bet your wife appreciates it
solid sun
As a certified head shaver, I do be exfoliating
frosty mango
and i bet your wife appreciates it <:peepo:938582175522107442>
I got one of them long sticks with a scrubby
urban bane
As a certified head shaver, I do be exfoliating
twinsies
frosty mango
Works good
urban bane
The only thing i miss about head hair is when you're sweating and dont wanna wear a hat
solid sun
I went to a barber shop one time and the dude taught me all about exfoliating and stuff when he did a sick shave job for me
urban bane
it just be going straight down
undone beacon
i wanted to dye my hair but it freaks me out but i think having some purple would be cute
i have the dye i just never got around to it
urban bane
Yeah I burned the shit out of my head at the Boston marathon one year
lusty grotto
AHHHHHHH
im short 1 ilvl
chipadin needs a hero chest for free 2/6 myth
well well well AA drops a chest
to the AA mines i return
undone beacon
waiter waiter more AA
lusty grotto
undone beacon
pain
i moused too hard and i can see where one of the load zone transitions is between rooms because the floor changes color when i walk over it
sharp rover
Why is MT getting buffed again...
solid sun
Is that the tank you’re about to heal
lusty grotto
yes
sharp rover
I don't want to play MT 😭
solid sun
Are you going to offer some unsolicited advice lol
abstract arch
I don't want to play MT 😭
Just stay col and pretend it's still fine
undone beacon
this is about to be the TANKIEST pwarr you've ever healed nim
lusty grotto
this is about to be the TANKIEST pwarr you've ever healed nim
motherfucker was running the entire time
abstract arch
1/4 confirmed optimal
narrow jay
I bet we go 1/4 to take all the execute talents 😜
proud dock
is it jus tme or does WB proc at the wrost places/times
abstract arch
Like on every heroic throw across the map?
narrow jay
I was joking lol ive seen how much damage you lose from going 1/4 its yucky
I feel we would need a bigger than 20% buff to make execute actually viable again though?
bleak breach
lusty grotto
I feel we would need a bigger than 20% buff to make execute actually viable agai...
you feel wrong
the tank is a dps main
did a massive (note this is sarcasm)
65k dps overall
also got box
with a huge 76% effective block uptime
(sarcasm with the huge)
pop quiz
what does indom do if youre kiting and have 0 uptime to generate rage?
any answers?
i will award rat brownie points
meager needle
how do you guys pull skyreach first pull, at or above +18? do you split first pull or go for whole platform ?
meager needle
got flamed by a pala to not pul it in one
lusty grotto
pala is an idiot
sharp rover
what does indom do if youre kiting and have 0 uptime to generate rage?
10% extra HP which makes your raid frames look cute
sharp rover
I feel we would need a bigger than 20% buff to make execute actually viable agai...
Execute is already viable on MT as a filler with high prio than Revenge. This change might not do anything for Colo though since its Revenge hits substantially harder than MT and it also cares more about rage efficiency
tribal wharf
10%hp = 10% more live longer
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
people just dont get MDI pulls are done on a 16 lol
outer willow
how do you guys pull skyreach first pull, at or above +18? do you split first pu...
I did it once
For a meme
I’ll never do it again
It’s not worth the butthole clenching
lusty grotto
MDI does the two platforms, not the full platform, either way you cant expect an 18 to do the entire thing without coordination
meager needle
i think you missunderstood me, whole platform like... to the stairs so
like this
fallow depot
wanted to ask, where do you actualy look for routes?
abstract arch
I usually pull the wind dudes and last pack with the guys at the top of the stairs
pallid quiver
wanted to ask, where do you actualy look for routes?
holding w until someone dies, then think about if they died because dum or died because rough pull
abstract arch
Or just the last two by themselves and take the whole next platform as one
lusty grotto
i think you missunderstood me, whole platform like... to the stairs so
like thi...
no 18 ive looked at has the full platform
22s yes
18s no
pallid quiver
If you're looking for real high end routes, you talk with the rest of your premade group you play with and discuss what you want to see the least of and what you can stick together as much as possible without too much risk
abstract arch
Brrrrrrrrrr
tribal wharf
glitches that reduce preformance or cause crashes arent fun
abstract arch
Yeah that's my pull
abstract arch
Ive started chaining the two packs after first boss too
lusty grotto
skipping the bladetalon altogether
lusty grotto
Ive started chaining the two packs after first boss too
yeah very doable
with smart dps
as soon as they forget to kill solar orbs and/or kick, youre fucked
at least while youre resetting fiery talons etc
abstract arch
Yeah
lusty grotto
oh shit i didnt notice last night i got a Ribbon on nimchipadin
good trinket stonks go up for hpal
a warbound one i mean
maiden ravine
I 2 chested my 11 but came close on a couple pulls cause the unholy dk decided to pull for me.
Like I'm sorry I'm scared of the damn bleed.
Pardon I mess up your CDs lol
Regarding second boss of Skyreach, are tanks expected to soak the beams now or is that still a Dps and healer job
pastel geyser
Aka meta? ;D
lusty grotto
@daring marlin im up to date, that entire supernatural scene was gold
true idol
as soon as they forget to kill solar orbs and/or kick, youre fucked
It's insane how often I have to ping them or just outright charge them at like 16s
pastel geyser
Ive been seeing shadow in some high ish keys lately
toxic pewter
<@145702969990578178> im up to date, that entire supernatural scene was gold
Up to date in what
lusty grotto
the boys
toxic pewter
Oh cool
loud rune
Good show
undone beacon
Ive been seeing shadow in some high ish keys lately
Shadow is pretty strong in higher keys, consistently high spread damage, strong ST burst, PI, Fort, actually weirdly tanky
It’s just hard because other DPS bring a lot more utility than they do
Or better numbers
But with a spriest and an Aug, you can def turbo juice your third dps like crazy
Breath + PI + synced CDs every 2 mins is monstrous
proud dock
is there any use in using rally cry reactively? or should it only b eused proactively before dmg goes out? m+ btw (use as in effectivness)
undone beacon
More health means hp % based healing is more effective, but if you can rally proactively that tends to be better
proud dock
ok, was wondering if seeing people dro low and then pressingit was of any use
undone beacon
I mean it’s better to use it in general so
daring marlin
this game sucks
undone beacon
Learn when the big group damage events are and send it there
undone beacon
this game sucks
Agreed
proud dock
ye tanks
undone beacon
But also what’s up
tall zealot
I have puzzle box and solar igniter, Is puzzle box worth it as a novice prot war?
undone beacon
You can learn to use it effectively to get big damage, just send it before you pull packs or when you’re not being swung on
If you don’t want the added complexity, just grab something else
pastel summit
puzzle loses points off the fact dps will sometimes just walk into packs when you're channeling it
warm plinth
You're right. DGE much better trinket
undone beacon
Gonna strap on the ol Bombsuit from gally
daring marlin
ducks
lusty grotto
ducks
daring marlin
It is I, a Warlock
it's a double subjugator pull
do I pop defensives before the chains come out?
nah I'll just fucking eat shit
daring marlin
me and the aug were vibing tho
lusty grotto
ducks
sharp gale
is there any use in using rally cry reactively? or should it only b eused proact...
Group absorb -> you can rally to contribute getting rid of it
jagged gust
I knew my portfolio of duck pictures would come in handy one day
daring marlin
I knew my portfolio of duck pictures would come in handy one day
based af
jagged gust
daring marlin
reminds me of some goofball on the wow forums over a decade ago
Duckman
"I'm purple" is all he'd say
goof
almost two decades actually cuz it was BC LMAO
jagged gust
aww man you're gonna make me whip out the memberberries
'member when you could shitpost in the wow forums
daring marlin
good times
tall zealot
Haha I was in a key while you guys answered that. Immediate facepull during my puzzle box
Lesson learned
jagged rover
How big is the buff for protection warriors?
jagged gust
pretty sure nim ran the numbers already
couple % in ST, like 8-9% in aoe, but idk if he fucked with the exe talents yet
warm plinth
Go to the gym. Down 30 pounds today and my legs are jelly from gym cardio and trail walk. Pls send help or a masseuse
BE WOYERS IRL
jagged gust
Go to the gym. Down 30 pounds today and my legs are jelly from gym cardio and t...
I gotchu fam
I'll use my strong hand
daring marlin
BE WOYERS IRL
no I'm pink class irl
my glutes and back are cooked after the gym zzz
lusty grotto
same way you manage fiery talons
but you can also reflect
so its even easier
reset the stacks by stunning and backing off, its that simple
lusty grotto
reset the stacks by stunning and backing off, its that simple
literally 3 lines above
you do not need to kite alot
you kite, your dps will hate you with lust
your rage intake will be essentially none
do it the same way as talons in Skyreach
you stun, you back off and let it reset, go back in
on a pinch hit reflect
proud dock
anyone else notice seers being randomly pulled in NPX? is that cuz mobs are walking in its vicinity?
warm plinth
I just pull the first room now
Peak name reference
daring marlin
https://tenor.com/bL9LL.gif
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
carmine burrow
is there some new tech where people are starting to lean towards mastery instead of crit?
frosty mango
notthing has changed as far as I know
carmine burrow
I'm checking out some of the chinese players, and they seem to being going mastery, unless raider io is bugged when logging their characters
warm plinth
Chinese players play their own game.
tropic pond
Chinese players play their own game.
agreed
warm plinth
But no, there is no new tech. There were meme builds during beta where people were stacking mastery but it's never been a serious thing.
tropic pond
i have done that pull, but wanna ask what key level are you in right now, cause that pull is really difficult but doable
loud rune
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wzrVFhTN24M3pWYH?fight=2&type=summary&source=1 also mastery but there is some that do some that stick to crit haste
opal ledge
how much mastery we need for 100% crit block?
tropic pond
for 17-18 you dont neet that first pull, i have time the 18s without it
its really difficult with 80% chance to wipe imo
opal ledge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wzrVFhTN24M3pWYH?fight=2&type=summary&sourc...
they probably just simmed and mastery was better... they are not heavy stacking mastery there
sharp gale
Yeah that’s not stacking mastery
upbeat sable
damn.. i first pull the middle room, 2 balanar packs and 2 little guy on the left ramp, burn lust
warm plinth
how much mastery we need for 100% crit block?
Not sure, but it's impossible to get there due to DR. We start at I believe 17.6% and each mastery point gives us 1.5% chance to crit block. Each mastery point is 46 rating, but you have DR on that at 30, 39, 47, 54, 66, and 126%. If DR didn't exist, you'd need 3791 rating, which is already impossible. But with DR it's a lot more.
abstract arch
Peak name reference
warm plinth
The one bad part of the movies is his absence 🙁
abstract arch
Yeah. Barrow downs scene would a been cool
tropic pond
i recommend this pull instead, yes its slower, but much safer
dont look at the 3rd pull, only the fist one
just a quick mdt lol
opal ledge
i just usually do something like that, maybe it's not that good
sharp gale
i just usually do something like that, maybe it's not that good
As dps I prefer yours tbf
opal ledge
i can add the 2 extra on the right on the first pull, but i usually leave it for later
abstract arch
My DPs is too impatient to go left first
opal ledge
if you go right... you kinda mess up the lust no?
sharp gale
It’s just I prefer to lust that thing than the left pull, imo
abstract arch
Yeah. Early pulls went right first to lust on the left boss
opal ledge
idk, losing lust during the golden bean thing, seems like a major dps loss for the run
sharp gale
Don’t you lose 1 lust if you lust on the first boss you pull ?
tropic pond
i just usually do something like that, maybe it's not that good
this could also works and it give a nice prio target, but i havent tried it yet, my only concern is that the seer is very far away when you goup up the pack the first time and its 15-30s or so to get near the other pack, unless you leap and try to tag it
opal ledge
i usually dont pull see at fisrt i just grab it later and when he is the only one alive i chain to the next pull
tropic pond
if thats the case than the bloodlust value is really decreasing, if chainpuling then the dps, and healer already blow cd for most value i think it have to be group up together first time
opal ledge
but thats the second pull
tropic pond
but the timer is no so tight to it doent matter tho
opal ledge
i lust on fist pull
with the 2 big wing guys
hey is getting 3 socket itens a good thing for mage tower?
yay got my shield
toxic pewter
Damn and a cursed vision Pog
opal ledge
also got the bow i like tht bow
toxic pewter
Yah that a solid set of drops
glacial lynx
Anyone done the VS achieves?
opal ledge
any prot transmog thats cool with this shield?
toxic pewter
Thunderfury of course
warm plinth
Thunderfury and Bulwark is like the basic bitch of prot warrior transmog
toxic pewter
wanton void
Is mitigated a key category I should be looking at in logs for a warcraft logs for survivability? If so what is a good percentage range?
warm plinth
You want to look at Damage Taken > Melee > Hits; if you hover over that number, you'll see the % of blocked hits. You can check the Hits column for other blockable mechanics too (e.g. any tankbusters or hard hits that are blockable), but Melees are what you take the most so it's generally what you'd look at first.
wanton void
Thanks!
warm plinth
You want to be at least over 90% in that number, as close to 95% as you can get (it's technically possible but highly unlikely you will get 100%; I've literally never seen a 100% blocked hits log)
frosty mango
You want to be at least over 90% in that number, as close to 95% as you can get ...
It always makes me sad in 15+ when I have to brain on and not get hit in the back
Vs 10s where I can happily eat 20% backshots and not have my health drop below 90
glad magnet
did like 91k overall in a MC 16, cant wait for some clappa buffs
opal ledge
i wanted more buffs, everyone is getting armor buffs
ionic fern
Don't really need armor buffs.
opal ledge
but i want it anyway
ionic fern
No,I don't want to be fotm.
abstract arch
Its time for movement speed
autumn heron
Man in only tanking my own keys that i already timed as dps.
If this Continues my tankscore will be higher
blazing shuttle
My fellow Spell Reflecters.
I have been trying to reflect the "tri-beam" on L'ura in Seat of the Triumvirate.
However, it feels a bit random as when it connects or not.
Does anyone have an idea about the timing? I feel like I have to "take" the first tick? I'm not sure.
meager needle
I think you are reflecting the 3orbs floating above him and not the beams
analog lily
My fellow Spell Reflecters.
I have been trying to reflect the "tri-beam" on L'u...
use first reflect on first beam spin and then use it on cd
blazing shuttle
Fair, thank you.
urban vortex
cloud scarab
Good Morning everyone (morning iaccording to Italy), I have a quick question on shields and the Pyrium Shield Spikes: I've seen a handful of tanks with the spikes applied to ilevel 289 shields for example, how did they do it when the item states an 80 ilevel for application?
sweet egret
is there any use in using rally cry reactively? or should it only b eused proact...
I always press rallying cry if I see someone drop low during moments I know a lot is going on, but I also use it proactively on high aoe damage events
flat delta
Man in only tanking my own keys that i already timed as dps.
If this Continues ...
become tank main 😎
cloud scarab
So its not worth it anyway
thank you, it was just pure curiosity 🙂
fringe mural
You want to be at least over 90% in that number, as close to 95% as you can get ...
I had 94% in my last 3 seat runs, that's alright isn't it?
warm plinth
Yeah that's perfectly fine
jagged pier
U itf or hr?
fringe mural
hr
jagged pier
Yer about standard
fringe mural
I pressed sb too late at one pack
jagged pier
fringe mural
Yeah shame on me
fringe mural
U itf or hr?
I could swap though, i'm at 1270 now
but i will probably wait until next id to try
hardest part would probably be to keep sb up in a boss fight with ranged dps and no adds
when itf is at 2% all the time
jagged pier
Yer ppl dont u would be surpised
I just press sb with not hought
Of the boss is casting for 6 seconds
So now u wasted a charge
Or u got to move away
fringe mural
given that, it's probably better to use itf to learn your class in the first place
so you have to have unagi
to not die
because hr saves your ass when you use sb in a stupid way
what is our cpm for thunderblast roughly?
blast not clap
fringe mural
because the 8% dr only last 5 seconds
from tb
so if you have less than 12 cpm there's definitely downtime
and 8% dr is a lot
and tc doesn't apply the dr debuff on enemies does it?
jagged pier
Your over thinking its fine, its not somthing we think about its a nice to have when its up
fringe mural
i mean yeah of course you can't really do much
besides maybe prioritizing tb over ss even with 1 stack if the debuff is about to fall off
but that is really hard to decide in the heat of the moment
fringe mural
Your over thinking its fine, its not somthing we think about its a nice to have ...
i tend to do that yeah, just looked at the IV priority and got me thinking
vivid shuttle
Yeah that's perfectly fine
Can I be silly goose even if I play 4/4 Phalanx 
warm plinth
Sure
vivid shuttle
Awesome🌺
naive ravine
valid edge
If I only kill the first two bosses in the Voidspire on Mythic, will my weekly chest only contain loot from those two bosses?
tame jasper
If I only kill the first two bosses in the **Voidspire** on Mythic, will my week...
If you never killed any other mythic raid boss of this tier then yes
As soon as you have killed a raid boss its loot is in the pool you can get from vault. If you only kill a „later“ boss you also have the items from bosses before in your vaut pool (but dont ask me if saladar will be included if you killed vorasis or the other way round)
valid edge
ahh good to know - ty mate
drowsy comet
Valid, I agree
little flax
Any1 else's boss ability timeline missing? Can't seem to find it in my options when i search for it
fringe mural
ahh good to know - ty mate
also earlier loot from the raid, so if you kill crown only, all the other bosses from before will be added to the pool
even if you haven't killed them
that's interesting for people that always get benched for certain bosses
and never get to kill them even
tribal wharf
you can never be benched in doom 🙂
there is only "oh you died again? go when you are ready, king"
oh whats that, your steak is burning? pause the game for 17 seconnds, or 17 hours if you need to , i'll wait here while you take care of it
dawn lintel
sorry guys i need to vent
if me, the tank, have my own route and call for a lust that is not the whatever "usual" place for it
and the dps doesn't and we wipe
am i to fucking blame for having a different route
😐
sand smelt
i feel like if you tell em before you start you need lusts at certain points its lusters fault
undone beacon
Sometimes the luster just isn’t paying attention
Take matters into your own hands and buy drums
tribal wharf
i let whomever is lust person figure it out
stable kernel
link an mdt with a note of lust spots and try and communicate and yea drums
tribal wharf
except for before boss 1, doesnt make sense to all players
undone beacon
I am however very curious the context here
sand smelt
im curious the route
tribal wharf
well its like, you know you are playing nintendo game nes
undone beacon
The dungeon, the level, the route, etc
tribal wharf
and you are a space ship and you get a bomb
tribal wharf
right, its a great contention of when do you use the bomb
to have the best effect to help you win the level, on trash, or on boss?
undone beacon
Pull 17?
tribal wharf
and i think both answers is right
undone beacon
Yeah that’s a fair enough lust spot. Last boss is pretty free as long as people aren’t asleep at the keyboard
sand smelt
yea good lust pull for sure
upbeat plover
i've been at it for 2 hours to clear JUST a +13
sweet egret
My fellow Spell Reflecters.
I have been trying to reflect the "tri-beam" on L'u...
u can read in the dungeon journal, the spell is called "Abyssal Lance" and it gains a stack every 4 seconds and the damage happens a few seconds after the third stack is gained (I just pay attention to the stacks of the buff on the boss, when it reaches 3 stacks I press reflect)
blazing shuttle
Yep, that's what I've noticed today. It was the Lance I was reflecting.
sweet egret
did like 91k overall in a MC 16, cant wait for some clappa buffs
I just did 65k in MC 16 and thats 96% parse, are u rank 1?
jagged pier
how r u only doing 65k
knotty vapor
Hi there
Im playing War Prot Colossius
I'm searching everywhere what is the BIS gear to have for PVP and what is priority of stat we need to have
I used to see : MAIN / VERSATILITY / HASTE / MASTERY / CRIT but I saw and murlok that more and more people switch MAIN / VERSATILITY / MASTERY / HASTE / CRIT and i would like to have your advice cause gear is so long to farm, i don't wanna make a mistake , does MASTERY can be better than HASTE ?
Thanks you Warriors !
warm plinth
Hi there
Im playing War Prot Colossius
I'm searching everywhere what is the BI...
Have you tried asking in #pvp? We really don't get many pvp questions in here so I don't know how prepared anyone is gonna be to answer your question
daring marlin
PoS owns
upbeat plover
Have you tried asking in <#897055819475091456>? We really don't get many pvp qu...
We may not accept tanks
warm plinth
So is this guy like the dude in Terminal
No home country, stuck somewhere in between
knotty vapor
Have you tried asking in <#897055819475091456>? We really don't get many pvp qu...
thanbks you for the answer 🙂
glad magnet
I just did 65k in MC 16 and thats 96% parse, are u rank 1?
nah, not quite a bit lower but happy where im at
tribal wharf
almost
its giga free just trust me
lust pull 1
and then the entire game is how much trash and or bosses can i pull before lust is ready again
and if things go perfectly, you'll clear all of the trash towards boss 1 and 2, and maybe kill one of those have it ready for choice of second boss
depending which you hate more or can get more dmg out of
have to kicks, have to stop the gargoyles, some dude with a sword that hits for ton of dmg, some zombie man that pukes and deals a ton of dmg
very easy dungeon i say lol
harsh trellis
Hi there
Im playing War Prot Colossius
I'm searching everywhere what is the BI...
If you want pvp then you need this discord. https://discord.com/channels/390311218532843520/398364969202352149
Go there and ask questions for things. That community is cool.
Gerrisar is a cool dude also
stoic hound
is this acceptable waste of rage? nexus 16
warm plinth
is this acceptable waste of rage? nexus 16
It's high enough that I'd mention it in a log review, but only as an observation of something to work on.
I've seen much worse
warm plinth
They just show up as #unknown and give that error when clicked
Are you linking the discord or a channel in the discord?
Channel links will only work if you're already in the discord as far as I know
harsh trellis
50th times the charm? https://discord.gg/KuqvHh4d
warm plinth
Yeah that one looks to be working
stoic hound
It's high enough that I'd mention it in a log review, but only as an observation...
thanks, previously it was much higher, still improving
warm plinth
Progress not perfection as they say
At least you're working on it, and like I said, it's just an observation. It's not bad.
tribal wharf
i got my 350 mounts, so i figure im pretty much done now
only one i might want is 400
undone beacon
I’m just gonna wait for the next collectors bounty event
jagged pier
just wait fro dragonflight mix
undone beacon
Now that I’m not playing my Druid I care a lot less about fire owl
tribal wharf
i want bfa
LFR ghuun
that was truly a special time
i remember all i had for a gpu at the time was gtx 730 or 1050ti
i think i tried to run it on the 730 and i got like 10 fps on every fight
wait no i take that back
sweet egret
how r u only doing 65k
u saw my logs yesterday :d
fringe mural
It's high enough that I'd mention it in a log review, but only as an observation...
Sry what?
this is not even 2% overcap
i mean zero would be better of course
he wasted like 8 casts of ip in the entire key
which is half his hp, once
i'd call that pretty good tbh
pastel summit
Hi there
Im playing War Prot Colossius
I'm searching everywhere what is the BI...
For what
I'm gonna have more haste for instance in shuff than blitz
and blitz I'm not playing tier
crit bad
sweet egret
you said I waste a lot of rage and need to press ignore pain
jagged pier
oh yer now i understand
sweet egret
feel free to help me do more damage if you can
sweet egret
where did you find it? I did two MC 16 since then and also changed my rage bar to change color at 70
jagged pier
resource tab and chagne it to rage instead of health points
sweet egret
so it could be better
hm nope, still looks high
idk what to do then like, I am pressing ip at 70+ rage and I am really not noticing reaching 100
fringe mural
try to check what happens when ravager procs
or you pull big groups
that's when there'll be lots of rage spikes
sweet egret
I wonder if I can add a sound cue at like 90 rage somehow
fringe mural
I wonder if I can add a sound cue at like 90 rage somehow
i added a color change to the rage bar
once above 70
fringe mural
i only use sound cues for my dmg cds which helped a lot in keeping them on cd
and shield charge
i forgot it too often before
now i don't
sweet egret
I think it is just like you said that during big pulls when I am focusing on the mobs instead of my rage I let the rage cap sometimes
so in those situations I think I could use a sound cue to help with that while my visual focus is otherwise engaged 😛
fringe mural
I think it is just like you said that during big pulls when I am focusing on the...
you see this as ravager has 200 rage wasted
while ravager is up you get so much rage you can usually just spam ip
sweet egret
I cant see an option for a sound cue in arcui..
wanton void
is this acceptable waste of rage? nexus 16
How do you see this view in logs?
warm plinth
this is not even 2% overcap
If you waste multiple rage bars in a single key, I am going to mention it as an area for improvement. You don't have to agree 🤷♂️
fringe mural
If you waste multiple rage bars in a single key, I am going to mention it as an ...
sure i get your point
but is 0 waste really something people achieve?
like 100% sb
where we strive for 95%+
warm plinth
I mean, I had a floodgate last season where I generated like 24k and change rage and wasted less than 100
And I'm very mid at the game
jagged pier
but is 0 waste really something people achieve?
near enough yes
jagged pier
warm plinth
Yeah and it's just to reinforce the observation of your rage bar. He's not bad for having that amount of waste; just has room for improvement
fringe mural
that's 2 ips
so he wasted 5 more, which is not even one proc of Violent Outburst is it?
i was just wondering because you mentioned this as a reason for his low dps
ah no that was another dude
he had more rage waste
jagged pier
thats the first one of my keys i looked at for wasted rage
just u can have very low wasted rage
the lower the better u can get to 0 tbh
fringe mural
yeah i get that, i was just wondering if that really makes that much of a difference for your dps
unless you have 1000s of wasted rage
fringe mural
because every 250 is like two shield slams missed
jagged pier
with rage and dps and rage gen
the more u spend the more u gain
the more damage u do
more VOs
more avatars
more TBs because more avatars
wanton void
Is there a guide I could read for the best way to analyze my logs and how to improve using that data?
jagged pier
more rage from more TBs and VOs more its and endless cycle
fringe mural
so is interest but with 2% interest you're still not getting rich
even when you get interest on your interest
it's obviously something you work on, but maybe another source is responsible for the discrepancy in dps
like wrong priority or low cpm idk
or you guys pull more mobs because you feel more confident
which is the main source of dps afaik, big pulls
and thunderblasts in those pulls
sharp pasture
Aside from using it defensively, what spells can I reflect in M+? i know a cuple but if u can tell me the bests uses to reflect
jagged pier
fringe mural
okay was just about to post the link haha
true idol
but is 0 waste really something people achieve?
I just put ip on a thumb mouse button and squeeze my fist like a madman if I see rage over like 80. I'm a simple man
sweet egret
or you guys pull more mobs because you feel more confident
I'm doing 65k ish overall in 15 and 16 keys and I don't really feel like I can do bigger pulls
sweet egret
I just put ip on a thumb mouse button and squeeze my fist like a madman if I see...
I have shield slam on mouse button and I have tennis elbow to show for it
true idol
Hehe
sweet egret
actually, I have shield slam, thunder clap, victory rush, demo shout, disrupting shout, execute and shockwave on mouse buttons :d
prot warrior is thumb workout
abstract arch
All my buttons are on my mouse with shift, alt, and control variants
sweet egret
I regret putting shield slam there and I've tried to move it but it's too late to change after so many years
warm plinth
I don't ever put rotational buttons on mouse because I like not having a RSI
Mouse is for defensives, kick, pots, and utility
idle aurora
What are reasonable ways to trigger alleria neck for pwar?
Seat hands and nexus ring set?
fringe mural
probably
idle aurora
💀 bonus rolled mythic one with leech from her today and I dont have any trigger
sweet pasture
What are reasonable ways to trigger alleria neck for pwar?
Yeah I think that’s how most are doing it
idle aurora
ty champs
wraith olive
Do you guys bother tracking the ignore pain buff?
pastel summit
Do you guys bother tracking the ignore pain buff?
Yer, but mostly a pvp habit.
I suppose it also doesn't hurt for certain busters.
In general unless you've got the headspace probably not worth worrying about.
As there's a lot more important things to keep an eye on.
wraith olive
Thought as much, thanks
warm plinth
Do you guys bother tracking the ignore pain buff?
No, there's nothing meaningful to be gained from it. You don't make decisions based on it. It's just used when you're over 70 rage.
pallid quiver
Yer, but mostly a pvp habit.
honestly, probably the best reason for tracking ip i've seen
wraith olive
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148897941883584512/1481371263975...
Thanks, I think that should be pinned
sweet egret
Do you guys bother tracking the ignore pain buff?
no
idle aurora
What are reasonable ways to trigger alleria neck for pwar?
as a follow up to that
if you wanna try using devouring banding embelishment to trigger it
just fucking don't.
simple cosmos
Is it possible to still announce what spell you're reflecting with spell reflect since the addon changes?
jagged pier
No
abstract arch
thats the weapon or trinket upgrade we get after 4 weeks
dark barn
im just bad or suddenly turns very hard to survive some pulls at lvl 17 keys? for example the initial pulls of SoT
tribal wharf
players should move as little as possible during room 1 in general
note, i do not run 17's
if a player moves 8 yards, one of the monsters can do a charge ability
sweet egret
pretty sure they only charge the tank
sweet egret
because I don't think non-tanks survive that
we are talking about the shadowguard champion mob in seat of the triumvirate?
they do a charge called relentless pursuit from 10 yards and further
keen leaf
Is execute even worth pressing at this point, looking at my overall its not even on the list
cerulean tusk
Currently, not really
If you play thane, then on ST under the right conditions, you gain some DPS if you look really hard
For Col, then just foooooooooorgeth' a'booooooout it
keen leaf
Disappointing, I shall add it to purgatory with whirlwind.
sweet egret
well, they are apparently buffing it on wednesday
cerulean tusk
I dont even remember the math we did on it anymore, wasnt it like a 30-40% buff needed to make it rage efficent for Col?
For Thane tho, maybe it will be worthwhile to care?
It already is a DPS increase, so in theory it will be worth. Worthwhile the effort to keep it in mind while tanking keys? Probably not
cerulean tusk
Nim, you think exe for Thane is saved?
lusty grotto
not after tuesday
cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
im working the numbers atm
cerulean tusk
I will pray for the Thane bretheren
May execute again return to your lives and not feel shit
🙏
keen leaf
just make execute like touch of death, there I said it
drowsy comet
Whoopp whoop
lusty grotto
well
i have good news for some and bad news for others
when it comes to execute
specifically in AOE
the good news is:
- i dont have to make prio changes
- if you dont like executing in AOE youre gonna be fine @frosty mango and whoever else
the bad news is:
- heavy handed or any combination of execute talents with it in AOE is a dps loss over the current build
the only thing i need to check are target counts
so if youre an execute/hh enjoyer in aoe, you might still have a chance
frosty mango
the good news is:
- i dont have to make prio changes
- if you dont like executin...
Out of curiosity - did you check to see what the delta is between thorims might and gathering clouds is, in both loadouts?
With the change to ground current I was curious if the 30% proc rate from gathering would outpace thorims might in non execute builds
I was going to futz with my profile tonight but maybe you already did it
lusty grotto
Out of curiosity - did you check to see what the delta is between thorims might ...
not yet
there's a lot of combinations
i will say this though
deep wounds might shift the prio
frosty mango
not yet
I haven
done the sim change yet but napkin math to me looks like gathering + ground current is a pretty good bump
all things being equal
lusty grotto
i havent checked colossus either cause just in case there's a small bump in execute usage due to DW + Arterial
frosty mango
it is a pretty large rage drop though, 900-1100 rage over the course of a key for dropping it
lusty grotto
done the sim change yet but napkin math to me looks like gathering + ground cur...
wouldn't surprise me
frosty mango
i havent checked colossus either cause just in case there's a small bump in exec...
I don't think so, maybe theorhetically but I think any gains will be wiped out in reality bc they're going to be so small that its functionally meaningless
lusty grotto
agreed, but i still gotta check it out and confirm
frosty mango
heavy is the head
lusty grotto
the more i do APL shit, the more im convinced about the claim that talents affecting ability power should just get baked in
or at the very least heavily condensed
idea, not claim
frosty mango
the more i do APL shit, the more im convinced about the claim that talents affec...
Yes I do a lot of similar type things for work (not for games) but the way wow does ability scaling is extremely convoluted
FFXIV has a much more straightforward system, though it does cause other issues in it's simplicity
cerulean tusk
Nim did all that math, just to get to the conclusion I had with a napkin and a crayon
lusty grotto
yes, ty cat
frosty mango
wow could benefit from changing the way they handle scaling though by assigning base damage and scaling from there instead of using overlapping coefficients
frosty mango
<:wadner:364925017114411009> Nim did all that math, just to get to the conclusi...
feelycraft ™
cerulean tusk
yes, ty cat
lusty grotto
i dont think AP scaling is bad, its just spirals out of control when you add in different talents and effects such as making deep wounds into what it is now in Midnight or even ground currents/lightning strikes
but yeah i do agree potency is very straightforward
high gyro
Hello, any guide on how to handle the first room of Algethar when you are not a dwarf ?
frosty mango
Hello, any guide on how to handle the first room of Algethar when you are not a ...
But seriously, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmBHiNJkkYs
Sha has a pretty decent runthrough here for different classes
for warrior specifically, the TLDR is
- Don't get hit in the back
- Leap away when you're at about 3 stacks to let it drop and charge back
- You are somewhat dependent on your healer if dps takes too long to kill
tribal wharf
the more things change the more they stay the same
yogi 70% block rate in SL, 70% block rate in midnight
frosty mango
I regularly have sub 80% block rate in weekly 10 keys because I know my hp is not going below 90 regardless
but knowing that its low just means you can look for where to improve
ocean smelt
Is there any embelish that is decent on the neck slot for us if you have to put your craft there?
lusty grotto
Is there any embelish that is decent on the neck slot for us if you have to put ...
you can sim embelishments
crafting without an embelishment is also an option
balmy narwhal
Has anybody else's boss abilities CD disappeared? I can't seem to find it even in edit mode
ocean smelt
Yeah I'm gonna sim that I guess
loud rune
how do you guys pug around for mythic raids
are there like lfr servers on dc?
or is guild the way
remote tusk
Has anybody else's boss abilities CD disappeared? I can't seem to find it even i...
bigwigs/dbm disables it unless turned on on those addons
balmy narwhal
ty
wicked lantern
Hello, any guide on how to handle the first room of Algethar when you are not a ...
Yea pull two Lashers and mark one with skull. When it’s dead, pull the third.
Or do the kite tech at three stacks.
lusty grotto
at 5
pastel summit
I usually get caut at like 5-6, ye.
wicked lantern
You pull the whole room until you live it.
Not worth the insta-disban in a PUG if it goes south
Just doing 15s, timer ain’t that tight
pastel summit
Better than running out the clock.
autumn heron
I did whole room on 17 as voidelf.
Just communicate with your healer. Pop shieldwall after gather, reset with leap/Kite on 5 Stacks, use second shieldwall for second phase of 5 Stacks. If all Lashers still live at this point you lack dps
lusty grotto
its not that you lack dps
its that dps isn't prio targetting the big lashers as they should be doing
autumn heron
Not YOU
autumn heron
If you dont have atleast 1 singletarget burn/funnel class the group is build wrong from the getgo. First lasher should be dead by the time you dropped the first set of stacks
10m hp isnt that much to burn thru with bl
lusty grotto
while funneling helps, its will be rougher if your dps isnt prio targetting from the get go, that's the catch all
if they are yolo padding, that shit aint going anywhere
autumn heron
100%
wicked lantern
its that dps isn't prio targetting the big lashers as they should be doing
PUG never will even if you say “kill skull”
DPS see so many targets and turn into apes
lusty grotto
im not exactly new to pugging
if they fail to do so, it is what it is, go next
you aint doing high keys without people having their brain switched on
and prio targetting is fundamental to it
autumn heron
My point is, you CAN and WILL live the whole first room if played correctly. Waiting for the first lasher to die before pulling the third is quite a big timeloss and can cause a deplete, among other things
lusty grotto
any dps that does not prio target has no business being in a key after 17+
autumn heron
Now. Realtalk. How do you do first pull in skyreach
lusty grotto
anything up to 19 can be done with a split pull
after 19, you need to do the entire platform
the key level will move up as gear ilvl increases week by week though
pastel summit
Lot of birb.
autumn heron
Whole Plattform is kinda whacky without the trans pull from monk tbh
lusty grotto
are you doing 20s?
autumn heron
Do we have a way to skip over that fence somehow
lusty grotto
what fence
autumn heron
Not yet, no. Im asking out of curiosity
lusty grotto
just go around the place and pull with range whatever you miss
invis pots help out as well
autumn heron
The fence in the beginning that monks trans thru for ez pull