this blizz patch niotes?
#protection
ivory barn
lusty grotto
no, Nintendo's
loud rune
hello guys
bleak breach
Oh well, colossus was fun for a week I guess
pastel summit
Oh well, colossus was fun for a week I guess
no it wasnt
bleak breach
What was the deep wounds bug? I don’t remember seeing it
jagged gust
Deep Wounds applied by Execute no longer deal double the intended damage (for all three specializations).
ornate bear
what'd they do to my boy brewmaster
bleak breach
They’ve had their fun, stuff em
lusty grotto
what'd they do to my boy brewmaster
who cares about brew this aint peak
also their nerf is very mild
it will make 0 difference, its just a thing to shut the reddit crew up
maiden ravine
Blizzard said they didn't intend to displace Brew as the best tank
I just want other tanks to not feel like I'm wearing cloth compared to brew
loud rune
maybe we get recognized again
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
You should know already smh
they're for tuesday
lofty warren
is this for REAL
lusty grotto
yes\
loud rune
this would be so huge
pallid quiver
They're just buffing execute so they can justify nerfing execute...
loud rune
IT WILL
loud rune
I MANIFEST ITLL BE THIS WAY
lusty grotto
this would be so huge
eh
pallid quiver
A true doomer knows
lofty warren
where patch notes I cant find wowhead
outer willow
YEEEE
pallid quiver
On a serious note, I will literally never say anything bad about buffing execute. It could literally break game balance and I would not give a fuck
calm plaza
trinket questions: I have given up on puzzle box (I don't use it well enough in M+), and have: Hero heart of wind, hero solarflare prism, and champ heart of ancient hunger. I am not quite sure how to use Prot sim properly, but it liked ancient hunger/prism over heart of wind. Does that feel accurate? that feels weird to me
bleak breach
On a serious note, I will literally never say anything bad about buffing execute...
Agree
bleak breach
trinket questions: I have given up on puzzle box (I don't use it well enough in ...
Sims are pure damage, heart of wind giving passive haste will help some survivability a bit more. But honestly it’s all just ilvl
Run your 2 hero track trinkets because you’re getting more stats
calm plaza
that was what I was thinking, thanks!
lofty warren
this is not a BIG enough ian brew main confirmed
outer willow
I feel like the other tanks weren’t buffed enough
lofty warren
bro these brew nerfs are complete 💩
ornate bear
they look drasticc to me
lofty warren
brews not even using zen state half the time
lusty grotto
in case youre new: these changes wont result in a humongous overall dps increase
but it will make execute aoe'ing an option again, depending on numbers
they were just announced 31 mins ago as of this msg
so of course we dont have numbers
toxic pewter
the spec talent so tight for years now. Last thing I want is to deal with execute talents
undone forum
but is my main brew gonna be okay
do u suck ass
lusty grotto
yes you can stay with the fotm rerollers over there
undone forum
IF you don't suck ass then it doesn't matter pal
ornate bear
i always play monk in every game lol. its my first class i picked in wow
waxen frigate
yes you can stay with the fotm rerollers over there
No no you can have them here
lusty grotto
no!
toxic pewter
Lmao
lusty grotto
its our present to you all
waxen frigate
monk is dog shit
Alright bucko watch your goddamn mouth
lofty warren
I am finally free to abandom my monk appropriately named "Monkfotm" 
lusty grotto
the spec talent so tight for years now. Last thing I want is to deal with execut...
yeah it'll be a problem
toxic pewter
The stuff they nerfed in these notes is like barely anything important
lofty warren
i ofc do my M+ on pwar first
lusty grotto
The stuff they nerfed in these notes is like barely anything important
as predicted
toxic pewter
I know I know lmao
lusty grotto
the "reddit shut the fuck up" nerfs
toxic pewter
They don’t want to mess with peoples progress
lusty grotto
paired with the "stop bitching other tanks, youve been meta before and often" nerfs
lofty warren
and they buff EXECUTE on pwar. nobody even presses execute useless buff
toxic pewter
I mean we prob will now lmao
lusty grotto
who knew
lofty warren
why in the fudge buff useless ability they shuold buff shield slam damage but 50% instead
toxic pewter
I mean did I see thunder blast 30%? That pretty solid buff
lofty warren
Ground Current damage increased by 50% - how much is this now?
lusty grotto
the fuck i know, im raiding
lofty warren
I do like buff to TB damage but its not enough i feel life
lusty grotto
ill work on numbers when im done with raid
lofty warren
like
raw parcel
Why does Blizz feel the need to push us into the execute talents no one wants? :x
raw parcel
I mean yes, it's ass, but now I am used to not pushing it and due to my warrioring have CTE and do not like change.
lofty warren
Stagger go down 500% too much? Ok I can change to stagger go down 495%
Not gonna lie I was kindof enjoying not thinking about execute 🙁
ornate bear
Stagger go down 500% too much? Ok I can change to stagger go down 495%
i see you in peak lol
abstract arch
That place is so (I can't say but you know what I mean)
Also no blizz I won't stop playing col
sick current
are we happy? or no
sick current
what does this mean
abstract arch
We're the tankiest
sick current
i just hit 3k io on my warrior, ive been playing in battlestance LOL
warm plinth
We have no reason to be tankier
daring marlin
i just hit 3k io on my warrior, ive been playing in battlestance LOL
is the 1% more damage worth it for you?
abstract arch
Be honest. Are you actually going to talent into execute now?
daring marlin
your healer would do more
sick current
is the 1% more damage worth it for you?
it was an honest mistake on my part
i had no idea lmao
daring marlin
whoops
sick current
i was getting hit really hard, i feel like i was training in a hyperbolic chamber
waxen frigate
are we tankier?
Yeah so there’s a simple formula to calculate the new EHPPSPK from the new patch notes
lofty warren
Can someone tell blizz to replace the word "execute" with "shield slam or thunder blastcap" in this sentence pls "Execute damage increased by 20%.
"
abstract arch
Demolish*
waxen frigate
Execute * 0.20 + 50% = EPS^2 and then with EPS^2 you can apply it to the Tank Theorem which nets you 400k, then divide by 30% so you end up with 1.1mil
lusty grotto
are we tankier?
sure, because more damage goes into leech
if you consider that being "more tanky"
abstract arch
I do
upbeat sable
i left out execute on my bar, is it time to put it back in or its still dogshit
abstract arch
But I dont play thane so
lofty warren
wonder where execute will go in priority list. i hope it stays dead I never liked executing.. especially in AOE like the thing said to in S1 tww
abstract arch
Heavy handed/deep wounds/massacre viable now?
lofty warren
in raid it was already used
abstract arch
I wanna torture pugs with 3 target routes
toxic pewter
I mean the main issues never been with execute itself it’s always been a spec tree talent point economic issue
Well other than execute had low dam
The question now is will we want to take the damn execute talents.. I still think we prob won’t
toxic pewter
wonder where execute will go in priority list. i hope it stays dead I never lik...
I actually like aoe execute lol it’s pretty fun
lusty grotto
but this is an unfortunate change because now i gotta re-prioritize execute depending on the coefficient
and then i have to run sims against possible aoe combos
just so you guys know execute is literally
dead last as colossus
and 2nd to last as thane
in aoe
it was 3rd in prio in TWW
abstract arch
Sad tbh. Its fun to press
tribal wharf
lusty grotto
so im not entirely sure if im gonna be able to do it tonight
abstract arch
We got till Tuesday
lusty grotto
i can get overall numbers for the other buffs though
im probably gonna guess it'll be like 3% overall increase
we'll see if im right
winged zenith
Useless changes we GG
frosty holly
Just happy warriors are getting buffed across all specs. Happy times after they nearly nuked thane before 0.5 went live
abstract arch
Tbh I was hoping for threat buffs
winged zenith
We never had threat issue lol
frosty holly
threat buffs? Out of all my tanks prot is defo the one I've never had issues on
lusty grotto
Tbh I was hoping for threat buffs
these ARE threat buffs
tribal wharf
that 350 mounts took way longer than it should have
abstract arch
these ARE threat buffs
For thane yeah
tribal wharf
as long as its not pwar is garbage tier
or effectively with brew in s and everything else in B
goes to d t ier but nothing in c tier or d lol
tribal wharf
and then its like, oh warrior tanks suck, if its that, i wont hang arou nd too long
cuz mdi is coming
tribal wharf
which turns everyone into route and meta lords
frosty mango
Tbh I was hoping for threat buffs
If you’re losing or struggling with threat as a warrior you’re doin something omega wrong
tribal wharf
lots of bugs and such as of late
like i had a second blizzard dmg meter window open
and it kept going to somwhere i dont want it to on log in, so okay its because i didnt log off in the right way and hit alt f4
do that, nope
opal ledge
i was hoping for a tankiness buff too... bre is just so much tankier than other tanks idk
tribal wharf
and like, random 30 fps, camera for the preview for transmog tweaking
abstract arch
Ive had random packs aggro across the map multiple times
tribal wharf
just tired of parade of game bugs lol
abstract arch
Smol indo compy
tribal wharf
but, then again, i am finding out what the new expansion is about
and how worth it is for me to continue
was always the goal going in
ya, that and i got the mount i wanted, i have wanted this one since DF
maybe i'd go for 400 one, dont think theres anything past that i've wanted in the past
opal ledge
idk i feel like we needed more
sharp gale
Ive had random packs aggro across the map multiple times
Ring sets can do weird things
lofty warren
Nim post updated sims or is he still raiting
lusty grotto
im working on it
lofty warren
abstract arch
Ring sets can do weird things
Oh that might be it. Just got the nexus set
winged zenith
Every tank has done a 20
Doing 1 or 2 doesnt matter at all title cut is so high now. There is litererally only 1 pwar in title score
pastel geyser
Wow what a nice buff we are getting
opal ledge
buffing thane is kinda weird (instead of buffing prot as a whole)
like... people are barely playing colossus, and this will make the gap even bigger? i don't follow the logic
winged zenith
We dont need to play colossus we just want thane to be more stronger
pastel geyser
I wonder if execute will be worth pressing now
If only they would buff our tankiness too.. but ig dmg buff is all we get
Monk still swimming through packs
Unless in this patch they murdered monk? Surely not right
pastel summit
buffing thane is kinda weird (instead of buffing prot as a whole)
like... people...
by high decree colo prot is cringe
thane supremacy
pastel geyser
thane supremacy
abstract arch
by high decree colo prot is cringe
Nay I say
opal ledge
i like thane too
but the decision is weird.. and we needed more buffs
everyonelse is so behind brew, i don't get it how they don't fix it for weeks now
abstract arch
This is blizz here
pastel geyser
I mean tbh in dmg we are ahead of brew but i really dont get why they buff dmg
We dont need dmg buff
We need beef buff
toxic pewter
Why would they wreck hardworking brews that are trying to push the highest of keys
abstract arch
They didn't
toxic pewter
Lol
pastel summit
Watching key balance as pvper is funny because people spam that a spec or comp is op and needs nerfing
so it gets nerfed
and replaced with another one
so in the end nothing changes
lusty grotto
@lofty warren
pastel summit
90% of title slots are 1 comp
lusty grotto
Changes so far result in the following overall increases:
- 3.65% increase in ST (will be more with execute talents)
- 8.33% increase in AOE (this number might change due to current prio in sims)
These are Thane specific of course.
however
i do have to rework the aoe apl
abstract arch
Oh no I have to play thane now
lusty grotto
and test aoe execute specs
abstract arch
My entire colo cope relies on it
lusty grotto
so now thane is aproximately 2.65% ahead
in ST
colossus was down around 4%
in AOE
now it'll be down what you said, around 12%
but...
execute needs to be tested
abstract arch
Oh yeah
lusty grotto
so yeah colossus is far behind
also
thats not taking into account any execute shift in prio
undone beacon
lusty grotto
which means the increase might actually be higher
pastel summit
colo back in the bin (its home, that it deserves)
lusty grotto
both in AOE and in ST (ST prio is fine as it is)
i'd imagine its gonna be quite big in ST its not massive but its an increase
due to SD
but we will see
lusty grotto
just for shits and giggles im checking SD
its around a 300 dps increase over BB
but we need to re-prio execute
outer willow
but we need to re-prio execute
I’m listening…
lusty grotto
so it'll be higher
outer willow
Execute gaming is my shit
lusty grotto
execute went up by like 4k damage with my character alone
in average hit
from 24k to 30k
obviously that changes with AP
i gotta be honest im not sure why the TB/GC buffs were done
but hey its a buff
the execute buff was needed
but the other two are strange to be implemented
timber vault
So, getting back into prot after a long while (pre-hero talents), are the hero specs actually close enough that it's preference for higher content? heroic raids/M+'s over 9 or 10 mostly.
lusty grotto
they wont be next tuesday
thane all the way
as of right now, they are however but the announced buffs are on next reset
pastel summit
me reading thane buffs (with nothing to help colo)
timber vault
Well shit lol. I've been vastly preferring collosus.
pastel summit
So, getting back into prot after a long while (pre-hero talents), are the hero s...
No, only Thane.
abstract arch
me reading thane buffs (with nothing to help colo)
pastel summit
abstract arch
i'd go back to brew if it were somehow not more boring than thane
lusty grotto
dw, im sure colossus will get some love
pastel summit
Hope not.
abstract arch
yeah i think so too
timber vault
Thats my problem with thane. Its so boring to play.
abstract arch
probably by 12.0.7
pastel summit
Brew is tolerable if you immense yourself in the fantasy of your character (alcohol).
Because good heavens this spec is gutted.
abstract arch
its sad
pastel summit
Keg smash fire breath keg smash fire breath
abstract arch
used to be fun
timber vault
How wide is the gap going to be between thane and colossus? Within 5% or wider?
lusty grotto
next tuesday?
abstract arch
12% aoe like 4 st
timber vault
abstract arch
ye
timber vault
Well, I'm not pushing content, so I'll probably stick to colossus when raiding. But guess im going thane for dungeons.
lusty grotto
right now its
1% ahead for colossus in pure ST
4% ahead for thane in AOE
next tuesday it'll be around what tom said
2.6% ahead for thane in pure ST
12% ahead for thane in aoe
and those are just early numbers
timber vault
Welp, heres to hoping colo gets some love next.
lusty grotto
anyway for any regulars here that are around when people ask about the buffs just link em this:
[#protection message](/guild/148872210742771712/channel/148897941883584512/)
which results in this #protection message
i think the APL is fine for ST
damage is as follows TB > SS > Execute > TC > Revenge (this is not a prio list, just going by sim output with the added buffs)
abstract arch
oh neat
lusty grotto
but i gotta check aoe 😬
upbeat sable
damage is as follows TB > SS > Execute > TC > Revenge (this is not a prio list, ...
so, replace revenge during execute phase ?
lusty grotto
we were already replacing it
nothing changes in the prio
except its not a small dps increase to use execute, it'll be quite significant after tuesday
upbeat sable
i think thats only apply for boss only yeh? Revenge still have the wave from phalanx which is good for aoe
lusty grotto
uhh
that remains to be seen
and revenge does not have buffs with phalanx
im talking specifically in aoe
upbeat sable
hence why i don't bother slotting execute or make revenge/execute macro
lusty grotto
well you cant
macroing 2 gcds abilities does not work
but again revenge has no "wave from phalanx"
what remains to be seen is whether Heavy Handed will make a comeback
upbeat sable
but again revenge has no "wave from phalanx"
oops my bad, it was for TC
upbeat sable
what remains to be seen is whether Heavy Handed will make a comeback
hmm 70% of execute dmg to 2 additional target. we already starved on prot points.. love to see the number running
deft socket
Whats the best way to handle the skyreach trash that stack the bleeds?
lusty grotto
stun and take a few steps back
or piercing howl and take a few steps back
it resets really fast
dont kite like a mad man
just track their duration
and try to reset at about 4-5 stacks
hope you geared crit, cause they are parryable
deft socket
yeah, never had any issue with nexus, but seem to always get shredded by that pack in skyreach
lusty grotto
npx heal absorbs have the added benefit that you can reflect them to help reset
lusty grotto
for what key level
drifting basin
I'm just starting to try pushing past 12. So like, 13-14 right now.
glad magnet
im going to play the rest of the season exclusivly with blizzard highlight routes
but non meme, i miss quazii i used to just import his routes and it was fine
lusty grotto
I'm just starting to try pushing past 12. So like, 13-14 right now.
have you tried looking in the weekly keys section of raider.io?
there's nothing overly wrong with yours
except most people dont lust that first pull
lusty grotto
well i suppose it depends but i certainly dont
drifting basin
That a site or an app in game?
drifting basin
You have no idea how much I've wanted exactly this thing and just didn't know it existed.
lusty grotto
while youre at it, raider.io has keystone.guru
which also has a route library
and also threechest.io is pretty good if you just want accurate MDT on a second screen (but there's no route databases so you have to improt your own)
kind flame
try adding 2 extra defenders in pull 6 and 2 packs of smallies on right side, you can chain them into boss
that way u can not pull seer in pull 3 and dont pull extras on lothraxion platform
lusty grotto
yeah thats a good suggestion
slender bison
What key lvl?
drifting basin
Aiming for around 13-14, I'm just starting to push past 12's.
lusty grotto
honestly just do the weekly key routes
for that range
also word of caution, the circuit breaker that Lobo deselected roams, and you can accidentally pull him
or your group mates
slender bison
You can also merge 16+17, just stagger pull one image after Searing Rend is cast. To avoid 4 stacks of the debuff
drifting basin
honestly just do the weekly key routes
That's my plan now. I'm not trynna reinvent the wheel, I'm not that good. I'ma just look for what the actual good players are doing and I'ma try to imitate.
lusty grotto
eh
be careful with looking at r1 key routes
a lot of those pulls arent doable with people at lower key ranges
kind flame
can do like this. on pull 4 you gotta watch for patrol and pull 8 (g13 and g12) might be hard to gather at first couple times as those big guys start casting shit
lusty grotto
and/or without comms or coordination
drifting basin
can do like this. on pull 4 you gotta watch for patrol and pull 8 (g13 and g12) ...
7 seems pretty heavy for pugs
abstract arch
what are we swapping for Deep wounds, heavy handed and massacre?
lusty grotto
TBD
kind flame
7 seems pretty heavy for pugs
you can chain G8 into pull6
lusty grotto
if execute is buffed you dont want to talent out of DW
regal yacht
Are we meta after these buffs,?
kind flame
like that
slender bison
can do like this. on pull 4 you gotta watch for patrol and pull 8 (g13 and g12) ...
Pull 15 is illegal in 14+ pugs. Too much stuff going on. Unless you paralyze one elemental or smth
drifting basin
Gotcha
drifting basin
Pull 15 is illegal in 14+ pugs. Too much stuff going on. Unless you paralyze one...
It's only 2 kicks. Is it that bad?
kind flame
Pull 15 is illegal in 14+ pugs. Too much stuff going on. Unless you paralyze one...
2 caster guys and 2 copies if pulled one after another will synch frontals, looks like no big deal
drifting basin
I mean, we have 2 aoe ints, two 3 target stuns, and two direct ints ourselves right?
slender bison
The elementals are bolt spammers, it's not 2 kicks only. And bolts one shot. Similar to AA dragon casters
drifting basin
They one shot in +14??
lusty grotto
at that key level, maybe not
drifting basin
@_@ bruh
lusty grotto
but it'll be hell for your healer
either way we aint brew
we cannot paralyze
just make sure you dont pull a lot of extra on top of them
kind flame
its never an option to hard CC one caster and expect people to be careful about their aoe
slender bison
Maybe if your DH imprisons, not sure
kind flame
basicall we want to group them up so they can be aoe cc'd
jagged pier
Thank you every one runniing 1/4 giving me even more damage now 
lusty grotto
LOL
jagged pier
In before they all switch
jagged pier
Rip col those a fun 2 weeks
bleak breach
What’s this 1/4 stuff about
jagged pier
Every1 goin back to 1/4 to afford execute talents
I doubt it will shift the needle for m+ raid maybe but were would drop somthing in raid as 15% ss damage kinda huge tbh if but sims will tell us
lusty grotto
Changes so far result in the following overall increases:
- 3.65% increase in ST...
these are the numbers i got
jagged pier
Did u sim execute stuff?
lusty grotto
i only checked ST with SD which is +300 dps (over the 3.65%)
but my brain melted, ill do a bunch of aoe shit with execute tomorrow
talents will probably change for ST
pretty sure massacre is going to be another slight increase
maybe smaller than 300 but still
ok me 
time
jagged pier
Maybe new raid build 🤞
lusty grotto
ya
jagged pier
What’s this 1/4 stuff about
Ppl are running 1/4 apex talents for no reason making our damage look worse
bleak breach
Ahh I see
mental scarab
Ppl are running 1/4 apex talents for no reason making our damage look worse
But why do they do it 
jagged pier
Cause it was the go to in beta and the top person ran it so they copied
blazing shuttle
Guys, I had a dream.
They buffed execute.
Damn, what a good dream it was.
mental scarab
I see
abstract arch
buddy do i got news for you
limber temple
Am I the only one that dislikes execute? I really don’t like the button.
mental scarab
Spam that mtf when boss is low
abstract arch
SD is also fun
slender bison
Execute is fine to rage dump when IP is not needed. When execute is bad, we spam IP to get AM rolling
limber temple
I just don’t think it should be in our tool kit, I’d rather revenge do something executy and we just don’t get it at all.
I love revenge spam 😂
slender bison
Revenge is bad in ST unless it's a proc
urban bane
limber temple
Getting Executed by a mod 😂
abstract arch
still wild how the more complex hero spec performs worse all around
ionic fern
Low keys may haps but probably not doubt high keys but maybe
I hope not. Execute in AoE is disgusting. 🙁
compact silo
does TaN give more healing(through leech) than taking bloodborne(through leech and FbV)?
compact silo
Am I the only one that dislikes execute? I really don’t like the button.
would you believe it if i told you Execute was a primary part of the MT damage last exp?
limber temple
Execute is a bit like going to work for me. I do it, but I dislike it and would prefer to do something else.
jagged pier
I hope not. Execute in AoE is disgusting. 🙁
compact silo
Execute is a bit like going to work for me. I do it, but I dislike it and would ...
i kinda get it, i'd prefer spamming SS instead of execute, but it's better to reset SS with exe in ST than with revenge
the "Shield Bash" pvp talent is so goofy and fun just SS go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
fringe mural
Audibly SS is much more satisfying than execute too. SS makes me tingle.
BÄM
ss really slams
opal ledge
sometthing weird happened... i made 2 Terrace dungeons in a row
and when i finished the second dg, the log of the previous dungeon was kinda replace and it's now... gone?
compact silo
ss really slams
get it? cuz it slams?
limber temple
ss really slams
Peeps talk about the sound of Toll but SS is the true sound.
compact silo
i streamed a dungeon to show wow to my girl and she said the sound effects are really nice lmao
cosmic fox
Clapping sounds intensifies
solar cave
hey guys what do you use to track active shield block ? What do you use for that ? Id like something which shows me ie vertical baf or active shield block
cooldown manager shows me ... cooldown of it
opal ledge
execute should be a 200k hit button
solar cave
im new to UI
opal ledge
i'm not using a bar anymore
opal ledge
cooldown manager shows me ... cooldown of it
i'm using an ArcUI icon
blizzard cd manager will show the duration, you need to track it as a buff
solar cave
exactly
analog lily
is brew dead？
opal ledge
exactly
i track like that... now i added a "red glow" if the buff is less than 4 sec, as a reminder to refresh it.
i got back into running ITF and with heart of the wind it's working fine, the uptime is not messed up
opal ledge
is brew dead？
not, it's a bit less immortal, but still never dies
oak ivy
thanks blizzard
valid edge
What is the name of the addon that shows missing buffs like food, gems, etc. at the start of a Mythic+ run?
valid edge
and beside a rdy check? saw it by some streamers
vital stirrup
im using buff reminders
valid edge
im using buff reminders
thats it! ty
rapid lance
analog lily
not, it's a bit less immortal, but still never dies
Sadge
drowsy comet
they dont just milk the tier sets in WoW, but now also in Diablo 4 LOL
this is one of the mounts..holy shit
tired girder
i track like that... now i added a "red glow" if the buff is less than 4 sec, as...
You use arc ui for change color of SB duration?
wicked plank
The gains related in #updates-midnight is also for prot ? I struggle to understand
blissful sable
no they are for arms and fury
cold tapir
right now its
1% ahead for colossus in pure ST
4% ahead for thane in AOE
next ...
@wicked plank this should be the gain for MT, more or less
lofty warren
Changes so far result in the following overall increases:
- 3.65% increase in ST...
Brews were are doing like 15% more dps then pwar need more I giess better than nothing
wicked plank
Thanks !
glacial skiff
Cause it was the go to in beta and the top person ran it so they copied
I disagree. I’ve tried a few different builds and the one that feels safer in keys atm is the 1/4 build I’ve been running since it frees up 3 points for survivability while doing ok single target. Obviously i’m speaking about any key in the 16+ range.
For weekly keys the wowhead build is best since you’ll do more damage. But if you don’t trust or want to help your healer a bit dropping damage for self healing, rage to spam IP etc is better imo. Can’t tell you how many times a lil extra bump from indom or using wall for last stand has been helpful this season. Just wish indom were stronger or not locked behind a less useful talent.
inland garnet
Low keys may haps but probably not doubt high keys but maybe
for noobs like me I would look like this maybe, BSV >= 2% haste/5% stamina in pugs?... unsure how big the impact is of skipping Shield Spec but survivability is already good
glacial skiff
I do wish the 5% DR from phalanx were available earlier in the tree tho.
jagged pier
I disagree. I’ve tried a few different builds and the one that feels safer in ke...
u need to read the pin it does not free up anything extra u can have 4 apex and the talents u are talking about
and deal literally more damage and be tankier then 1/4
jagged pier
for noobs like me I would look like this maybe, BSV >= 2% haste/5% stamina in pu...
u will not be taking all 3 exectue talents in m+
glacial skiff
u need to read the pin it does not free up anything extra u can have 4 apex and ...
Oh I know. I’d rather not drop right tree talents, specifically punish bc it kills your single target and peoples single target I’ve ran keys with has been shit
jagged pier
it doenst drop punish ither
glacial skiff
And kinda sucks when dungeon bosses take too long
jagged pier
i dont know where u are getting your buiilds from
inland garnet
which Execute talent to be skipped for M+?
jagged pier
masscre
inland garnet
got it
jagged pier
and those builds are just theoretical
inland garnet
Enduring >= Shield Spec?
jagged pier
we will just see what sims say
jagged pier
Enduring >= Shield Spec?
pure defence no
glacial skiff
i dont know where u are getting your buiilds from
A mix of practical testing and checking what fellow warriors pushing are doing. Idk I’ll try the suggested build, but personally I like having EA so I can meet SB uptime to run ITF.
jagged pier
A mix of practical testing and checking what fellow warriors pushing are doing. ...
that has no bareing on ITF or not
only your rating does
inland garnet
yes, it's pretty significant
jagged pier
2% haste is not rating
and if like u said u want the tankiest build
u would just be running HR by default
as it is by default tankier
so if u dont want to die why arent u running it?
glacial skiff
That 2% haste reduces SB CD
jagged pier
u dont need to care at all if u play HR
glacial skiff
Idk how much specifically but it still reduces the number
jagged pier
because its by default the tankier talent
so if u dont want to die or risk dying
u just taking it
glacial skiff
Yeah, I just don’t like HR. The time between claps is sometimes just abysmal when pugs are doing idiotic pug things.
jagged pier
espeically always in S1 when stats are low
glacial skiff
And I know it’s not super noticeable but when they pull shit extra and i’m in between claps it’s Iike fuck man.
jagged pier
nah your trolling
glacial skiff
Bc revenge does fuck all
I’m not. My dumbass teammates are tho
These mf’s sometimes pull extra shit when I’ve clearly planted. Or you know warlock things where their pets pull the whole goddamn dungeon
vale escarp
You are trolling if you dont go 4/4, its shit for damage and shit the defense
glacial skiff
You are trolling if you dont go 4/4, its shit for damage and shit the defense
5% reduced damage talent doesn’t do shit for rot tho. Know what does help for rot? Increased rage.
And self healing/IP from that rage
Sorry I misspoke. When I say rot I mean things like bleeds or magic dots etc.
But rot is similar I suppose
My only question is why does this build not take tough as nails? Viewing damage breakdown after a key shows it does a ton of damage at only 1 point and high threat.
vale escarp
So you want to take 5% more damage to heal yourself for 2% more? Or how much more is it?
Where is that build from?
glacial skiff
Where is that build from?
That’s the one pinned.
glacial skiff
So you want to take 5% more damage to heal yourself for 2% more? Or how much mor...
If it’s a dot i’m pretty sure i’m healing more than 2% more. The math doesn’t matter much when it’s a decision between living and dying. First pull in AA is a good indicator of that since you die if you don’t plan cd’s properly for the bites.
glacial skiff
No. I mythic raid as fury/arms so velf. 😐
vale escarp
So you say your race is importent in mythic raid since its like 0.2% more damage?
glacial skiff
So you say your race is importent in mythic raid since its like 0.2% more damage...
It’s quite a bit more than that. I’d probably consider race changing if I had a group that I pushed title with.
But I don’t so not gonna bother swapping to get stuck in just the top 1% bc BRM is busted this season.
Plus I actually like my guild and don’t want to be a burden on them, anymore than warrior dps currently is lmao.
jagged pier
My only question is why does this build not take tough as nails? Viewing damage ...
because 4/4 spex is more damage than ToN as if u need those talents to survive ie LS indom BSV
the one point u can drop is ToN
as it has not context on surviving
that build is like 2% the icy veins build
sweet egret
anyone feel like doing some log reviews to possibly help me improve in m+? I'm currently pushing 16s and don't have any specific problems just want to play as clean as possible.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/tarren-mill/cetrehk?zone=47
sweet egret
can do that
glacial skiff
because 4/4 spex is more damage than ToN as if u need those talents to survive i...
That’s a good point. I’ll give that build a try in my next key and see how it feels.
cerulean tusk
because 4/4 spex is more damage than ToN as if u need those talents to survive i...
ToN 
lofty warren
I disagree. I’ve tried a few different builds and the one that feels safer in ke...
2-3 of the top 5 pwars in m+ are chinese and are using 1/4 apex. Figure its gotta be at least a little viable if the highest key +20 pos on pwar was using it
fringe mural
2-3 of the top 5 pwars in m+ are chinese and are using 1/4 apex. Figure its gott...
it depends on where people are dying
In high keys
i think in the highest keys you won't have everyone in front of you
or in general you don't
so phalanx won't hit everyone
but it's a spell that has to be aimed correctly in a group of dangerous mobs
but given that you spam shield slam a LOT, you should be able to put the debuff on multiple mobs at the same time even if they don't stand together
fringe mural
2-3 of the top 5 pwars in m+ are chinese and are using 1/4 apex. Figure its gott...
the point is it is mathematically a worse build
you can run a key with a lot of talent variation if your skill or the other players skill allows it
4/4 will become better even with the next patch
When thunderblast dmg increases even more
that scales heavily with 2/4 and 3/4 apex
jagged rover
Prot warr buffs %?
fringe mural
30% more dmg to thunderblast inc
read archims ping
also execute buff
across all specs
wednesday is happy warrior day
tribal wharf
yesterday was my happy day
since 350 mounts
at long last
something i have actively been going for since DF, vault of incarnate
dusky canopy
Gz ice golem mount is cool
frosty mango
Prot warr new meta tank?
Unlikely it’s meta, it was already capable of doing the same or more than brew
fringe mural
idgaf if we're meta or not, but getting buffed is always nice
especially when multiple specs get closer to each other in their viability like both fury spec
frosty mango
I don’t see a big meta shakeup until next season, given where rdruid is
jagged pier
our damge wasnt low
frosty mango
I don’t really understand their decision making behind this change but I’m not gonna complain either
jagged pier
it was ppl using 1/4 which makes our damage look low
fringe mural
it was ppl using 1/4 which makes our damage look low
well they will think twice now
frosty mango
Or maybe they will keep using 1/4 and we’ll get buffed again
fringe mural
that would be even better
frosty mango
it was ppl using 1/4 which makes our damage look low
Yea but why not buff phalanx if that were the case, instead of blast
fringe mural
but that takes thunderblast to the undisputed top prio
when we decide between tb and ss
frosty mango
That’s not true
fringe mural
okay if we prioritize defense
frosty mango
Would still depend on your rage situation
fringe mural
then not
frosty mango
No
fringe mural
okay how so
frosty mango
Everything is driven by your rage gain and spend
fringe mural
yeah of course
but if we have to decide in favor of ss over tb because we lack rage to cast revenge, haven't we spammed too much ip before in the first place?
frosty mango
So if you have 20 rage, and both shield slam and thunder blast up, it still may not be the right choice to press blast - though it might be
The math will shake out in the next week or so
fringe mural
so tb at 2 stacks to not waste stacks i understand that
but i remember it being a discussion that already now it is situational whether we press tb or ss during avatar
and with 30% dps increase for tb i would think it shifts more in favor of tb
also tb decreases dmg we take by 8% for 5 seconds
which is huge mitigation
and 5 seconds isnt exactly a long time
if after the tb we press ss and then revenge next, a ss proc, another ss proc and...
there goes the dr buff because we didn't prioritize tb
frosty mango
All of that is great but if it leads to a situation where you have negative rage then the overall result will be less damage and less survivability
I’m not saying it is or isn’t better/worse just that it will be apparent once simcraft is updated and the apls get futzed with
Speaking of apls who is doing those now
fringe mural
oh btw
yeah you're right
that is i think the main argument against 4/4 of people who actually use their brain and not just say "duh they all take it"
everything outside of that cone won't deal reduced dmg to you at all
so for those it is 'just' a pure dps talent
the thunderblast dr however works in every direction
lofty warren
the point is it is mathematically a worse build
I can agree that math wise its worse and that 1/4 is viable is you need maximum survive
fringe mural
but it's basically you don't care enough to aim phalanx appropriately to make it hit the right targets
There's usually a certain number of targets in a pack that really hurt
and those can be aimed at
for bosses it's a no-brainer
4/4 is 100% better there
solid sun
I can agree that math wise its worse and that 1/4 is viable is you need maximum ...
We have a build that takes the survivability talents while maintaining 4/4
fringe mural
it takes what, ls, bsv and indom?
solid sun
Mhm
fringe mural
okay so depending on bosses fight trough the flames and spellbreaker and idk bloodsurge plus those three would mean more survivability in certain scenarios
fttf is 6% dr, spellbreaker is a mean 4% dr and bloodsurge i can't really say but extra rage = more ip
compared to 5% dr and increased tc dmg
but most of the dmg we take is physical so
tribal wharf
Dear 1/4 apex talent player you have got to be the stupidest idiot i have ever seen
tribal wharf
i dont think its a great idea, to use 1/4,, but its an old meme i converted
fringe mural
because i'm playing 4/4 apex and only use bsv
aha
and this is i think what is ment by 'it is not recommended to simply copy top talent builds
solid sun
What are you doing
fringe mural
i'm playing 4/4 that's what i'm doing
and will continue to do so because i aim my fucking face at the mobs
and 5% dr is stronk
solid sun
But why are you cooking up a 1/4 build
fringe mural
because i dislike people not having an open mind towards things that are not downright idiotic
a regular dude copying a 1/4 top key player build is stupid
because no thought went into it
for 99% of situations 4/4 is the better build imo
sweet egret
100% afaik
solid sun
Well spellbreaker is an awful talent
fringe mural
spellbreaker is a mean 4% magical dmg reduction
tribal wharf
fringe mural
which is bad talent because most dmg we take is physical
solid sun
It’s a bad talent because it’s an rng defensive proc
And it often gets wasted because you can’t rely on it so you use a defensive anyways
fringe mural
you can't rely on it that's true
fttf is much better
it's also 50% stronger
even if you take the mean value
can we somewhere grab values of how valuable some defensive talents are compared to each other?
like the heal of indomitable vs the absorb of bloodsurge extra rage etc
i guess there's too many variables
but why not make a defensive sim for this
Warrior gets hit by boss with x% physical and y% magical and then you sim a patchwerk that fights back
fringe mural
Because survival is not epeen related?
i mean come on
there's no need for any of this shit
Including dps sims
Just play down the bosses and rejoice
solid sun
For most situations you can 100% just equip ilvl and game, I think that’s true
fringe mural
yeah we're on the same page there
solid sun
Talents would be harder without guides which mostly rely on sims afaik
I’ve personally never been good at cooking up my own builds. Even in like Diablo style games
But we do have reasons to care about damage
Enrage timers, for example
fringe mural
yeah totally
solid sun
Or pulls in dungeons where if they go too long you’re going to die
fringe mural
also in a 5 man high key tank dps matters a lot
but it's not about dps this time like nim has proven with his sims
fringe mural
This is what people often reject to realize
and say it must be my build
not my gameplay
solid sun
We have had people running 1/4 builds with ITF before they have the requisite haste and still complete big ol’ dungeons
fringe mural
'Let's check what the pros are doing'
solid sun
Because they’re talented gamers surrounded by talented gamers
fringe mural
yup
frosty mango
I should stream
With the most cooked builds possible
“3k warrior 0/0 apex what the warrior discord wont tell you”
Id have so many views
frosty mango
Ttvroidburg comin in hot
I even have a great picture of me with a Mohawk giving a thumbs up I could use as a seal of approval
solid sun
“Skyhold kicked me out because their fragile TC’s couldn’t handle what I cooked up”
fringe mural
“Skyhold kicked me out because their fragile TC’s couldn’t handle what I cooked ...
Haha yeah
sharp gale
With the most cooked builds possible
I did keys without any source of shield block 
Or without enraged as fury
frosty mango
I did keys without any source of shield block <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
I did a 14 in battle stance the other day because I am dumb and forgot to change it back
frosty mango
I remember arms warriors tanking dungeons in def stance
I tried to cook an arms tank build last expansion, we did eco dome
Didn’t even make it to the first boss, no threat lol
oak ivy
I did keys without any source of shield block <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
tanking keys as a fury warrior pressing shield block
fringe mural
Didn’t even make it to the first boss, no threat lol
Yeah threat was an issue after they removed it from the stance
it was funny while it lasted though
a little like hunters forgetting taunt
on their pet
fury with active dstance pulling aggro
'Wtf tank what are you doing'
granite dock
Are sheilds losing durability quicker than usual? I lost 3 durability in two pulls.
I feel like if I don't repair after each dungeon I am at risk of a broken shield during the run.
fringe mural
Are sheilds losing durability quicker than usual? I lost 3 durability in two pul...
Shields on warriors will be under fire a lot, and yes you need to repair basically every key
unless your shield is indestructible
granite dock
Repair cost is getting a bit silly as a tank imo
sharp gale
Even as dps repair cost has gone up
quick iron
wait can blacksmiths repair their own gear?
sharp gale
Inflation 
granite dock
It's basically 1k per dungeon 😅
sharp gale
Thx, 1 k every 2 raid pulls just of repairs
fringe mural
also tough as nails procs contribute to breaking your shield iirx
Thank god i have that shield
oak ivy
actually indestructible shield might be turbo bis
fringe mural
yeah it rocks i can tell you
was also my first mythic vault item
I had one 272 slot
the shield was the one
sign of god if you ask me
'Go run more keys, take this shield'
Motivational rngesus is motivational
Might be a way to soften the tank shortage
‚Here, look at this shield, you do want to tank now don‘t you?‘
but it would have to drop in fury loot spec
or arms
Just imagine the face of some fury bonus rolling and then getting an indestructible shield
and his mates are like ‚man that‘s a sign, you‘re destined to tank, go do it‘
calm plaza
wait can blacksmiths repair their own gear?
yeah it’s pretty incredible
if you spec far enough into the tree you can use your Special Hammer to repair a slot (weapon, shield, wrist, etc), but even the ordinary repair hammers are ~25 gold per and fully repair any piece of gear. with all that, i functionally pay 10% normal repair fees, probably even less
and if you don’t care about professions at all you only need to be blacksmithing level 1 to use the repair hammers and you can just buy them on the AH
grave cradle
Hey everyone,
quick intro: I’ve been playing Devourer DH until recently, but mostly because of guild needs as DPS — I actually always preferred tanking.
Now I want to fully switch back to tank. DH was more of a compromise (ranged playstyle + tank option), but it didn’t really click for me. I used to play Monk a lot back in Pandaria, but not really feeling it right now.
Currently deciding between Warrior and Paladin — both seem to have pros and cons.
How’s Warrior performing right now? Viable in all content, and are there specific comps where it shines or struggles?
Appreciate any input 🙂
deep cove
I can't speak to the prot paladin experience as I do not play inferior classes, but this is the most fun I've had with warrior tanking in a while. I don't main it, but it feels pretty damn solid in keys. I very rarely have to sweat my HP bouncing, I've got answers for everything, and when I'm running 10s to fill up my vault, I've got the tools to handle all the affixes very easily. It's good.
And the amount of mobility is pretty damn fun.
The other benefit is that prot gear overlaps a lot with arms gear. Get a weapon and some trinkets and it's very little swapping.
dire grail
What are you guys using to track ignore pain? The bar only shows time remaining, not the amount
deep cove
Built-in buff bar shows the stacks on the icon.
jagged pier
What are you guys using to track ignore pain? The bar only shows time remaining,...
well it does the stacks are the amount thats left it just shows in percentile not actual number
u can not longer see the actual number because of the addon changes
but u dont need to track ip really as its just a rage dump
dusky canopy
dire grail
Hm k I had a WA that showed the amount remaining as a bar which seemed way more clear to me, but guess that’s not possible anymore
fringe mural
Hm k I had a WA that showed the amount remaining as a bar which seemed way more ...
also you don't really need it
crisp ocean
is a crit vers wrist good? to fully upgrade or do I save my myth crests
fringe mural
is a crit vers wrist good? to fully upgrade or do I save my myth crests
you transform it into tier or use a crafted one
fringe mural
Transform the wrists
crisp ocean
you transform it into tier or use a crafted one
crafted isnt worth it anymore tho
cuz myth track goes to 289
fringe mural
Then transform
daring marlin
They added T2 sets to d4
Judgement looks dope af
fringe mural
embellish is better than 4 itemlvls on wrist and cloak afaik
crisp ocean
embellish is better than 4 itemlvls on wrist and cloak afaik
oh ye true nvm
it is bis tysm
i'll save crests to craft then
toxic pewter
They added T2 sets to d4
if i were to get back into d4 how difficult are these sets to get or are they like paid with currency
fringe mural
Until you do, you can still use the transformed wrists
solid sun
You buy them pretty sure
fringe mural
haste versa or what is it?
crisp ocean
Until you do, you can still use the transformed wrists
wanna save it
crisp ocean
you don't drown in manaflux?
I got 2 rn
crisp ocean
you don't drown in manaflux?
3 of my tier set are hero track
daring marlin
if i were to get back into d4 how difficult are these sets to get or are they li...
💳
toxic pewter
yeah thats lame af
dusky canopy
They added T2 sets to d4
I’ve been seeing the screenshots they look amazing!
white stag
How will the prot buffs look?
dusky canopy
It’ll look exactly the same as it does right now
cerulean tusk
Thane gets a neat bump and exe is more worthwhile on ST for Thane
For Col, nothing changes
undone beacon
Damn bro spirit airlines is dead
frosty mango
They added T2 sets to d4
Imagine adding art to another game instead of the actual game it came from 
frosty mango
Damn bro spirit airlines is dead
It’s been dead bro, you ever flown spirit?
toxic pewter
Damn bro spirit airlines is dead
I saw that
undone beacon
It’s been dead bro, you ever flown spirit?
I didn’t fly spirit but I mean it’s officially dead dead
cerulean tusk
Let its spirit fly free
toxic pewter
I remember flying spirit back from vegas once lmao we got delayed so long it was crazy
undone beacon
My company pays for United
toxic pewter
united is my fav personally
undone beacon
And I steal my fathers mileage rewards and get free 1st class upgrades
Cuz he used to travel a ton for work
dusky canopy
@lusty grotto me to your mom
“Swiggity swooty…”
toxic pewter
that badass
dusky canopy
novel temple
And I steal my fathers mileage rewards and get free 1st class upgrades
Boujee af
I wish I would’ve shorted spirit
But also airlines get bailed out all the time
novel temple
Thane gets a neat bump and exe is more worthwhile on ST for Thane
For Col, noth...
Is execute still not good for colossus?
They really need to add execute benefits to colossus again
solid sun
Spirit Garbo
We should be riding everywhere via horseback anyways
Or train or wooden frigate
Roid and I are already best friends. Imagine how much more bester friends we would be if we had to travel to like Oregon via horseback
inland pewter
was prot warrior behind in dps or something i was surprised to see the buffs
cerulean tusk
Is execute still not good for colossus?
Hard to compete with Rev being almost twice as much dam per rage, with demo mods on top
surely they will add exe synergy for Col back into things soon
frosty mango
was prot warrior behind in dps or something i was surprised to see the buffs
Yes we were terrible. Dead last. Some might say the worst. They will definitely need to buff us another 50% at least
don’t hit me
jagged pier
was prot warrior behind in dps or something i was surprised to see the buffs
depends on the context everyone was behind druid on burst
but in general no we werent
thank ppl running 1/4 builds making us look weakier
cerulean tusk
Told you it is da way
toxic pewter
yah the sandbaggers got us buffed lmao
fringe mural
thank ppl running 1/4 builds making us look weakier
Rejoice
stoic hound
cerulean tusk
1/4 is preen nova build
jagged pier
as long as we dont do a druid and do no apex
i came across one of them today
30k dps over the dungeon
i died to aggro about 5 times
every time i ascendanced
i was dead pretty much
jagged pier
ele
fringe mural
ok
cerulean tusk
I meld when i see shammy go super sayan
fringe mural
lol
jagged pier
I meld when i see shammy go super sayan
i gave him time to agrro
fringe mural
elemental is cool ngl
inland pewter
as long as we dont do a druid and do no apex
Ive ran into some bad tanks, usually VDH tho I assumed it was that weird build where you deal cone dmg for aggro and if you position badly you dont have aggro
fringe mural
the burst is off the charts
when a shaman ascends everyone just hides
never had a char that melted final quest mobs so heavily while levelling
is elemental during ascendance just 1 button? Enhancer seems to be
jagged pier
worst thing about ele is i cant drop my fuckin lfr trinket
fringe mural
lol why because it's that good?
jagged pier
its from dragons and pumping 1k mastery into ele during acendance is fucking massive
jagged pier
yer but u dont need to wait 2 seconds
jagged pier
look at this delve trinket and vet trinket better than hero feather and 276 heart of wind
inland pewter
i thought ele wanted to stop mast at 1200 but i assume like always its still bis way past that mark?
cold pilot
They must be running out of topics to write about over at Wowhead.. This is equivalent to CNN reporting that the sky is blue . https://www.wowhead.com/news/control-orb-spawns-during-arcanotron-custoss-refueling-protocol-in-magisters-381443
daring marlin
They must be running out of topics to write about over at Wowhead.. This is equi...
The irony of you posting it as fast as you did
jagged pier
more clicks more money
true idol
i mean they got your ass linking it and generating page views
warm plinth
I don't think it's a useless article at all. Anything that helps people learn fights or tricks to make things easier is worth posting 🤷
If you already know then it's just not intended for you
inland pewter
at least its not like the clickbait articles i see all the time. I think the most common one is "80 year old restaurant chain closing doors" then its about 1 of the many closing down one day to renovate lmao
coarse bay
Must be dead game if this
And that’s good tech, idk how known it is but ghash is right
inland pewter
I absolutely cant stand those misleading articles just to get a click
warm plinth
Same Lethal
Like at least once or twice a year, you see the article that's like "Bloodborne players finally getting more Bloodborne after x years!" and it'll be like some audio recording release or something emulator-related or osme shit
tribal wharf
magisters terrace is a joke though
8/10 clear rate for that dungeon for me across all key levels
where as caverns as of a month ago was like, 4 or 5 out of 10 clears
its like EXCEPTIONALLY, hard, to go over the timer, on a 10 at least in magisters
whole dungeon doesnt allow for "demon pulling"
that will wipe you
quasi wipe you
you go to fast in that place it punishes you heavlily every single puill
primal rain
Hey coming back to prot war after a break at the beginning of midnight, any good streamer to follow? Self promotion is welcomed 
crisp ocean
Hey coming back to prot war after a break at the beginning of midnight, any good...
topicx is good
jagged pier
sense on yt
primal rain
Ty
novel temple
Hard to compete with Rev being almost twice as much dam per rage, with demo mods...
Rip, but honestly they should. Either that or buff execute more
Cause isn’t deep wounds also bugged or just shit?
Like I can’t roll deep wounds to keep stacking to big numbers
compact silo
dps dying while i'm pulling/grouping mobs then blaming me for threat 🤡
mf wait before you start unloading
crisp ocean
did they nerf dwarf ability? in skyreach I couldnt remove the fiery talons from adept
compact silo
did they nerf dwarf ability? in skyreach I couldnt remove the fiery talons from ...
you never could
it's not a bleed. it's fire dot
only removes bleeds, poison, disease and dispellable magic effects
crisp ocean
you never could
compact silo
How does gang feel abt the buffs
i just learned there will be buff 😄 Thunderblast seems massive, though it kinda leaves Colossus in the dust this way 🤔
compact silo
https://tenor.com/view/franklin-saint-snowfall-kolt-angry-mad-gif-16990162099621...
just stun/slow and backpedal
compact silo
is it slamproof?
tribal wharf
not my creation of the name, someone here came up with it
i cannot really, i think at least, in good faith upgrade from 4070 to 5070 normal, same gb vram, same 192 bus not 256
compact silo
isnt there ti version or something?
tribal wharf
ye, prices are ludicrus tho
compact silo
nvidia 🤷♂️
i'm using AMD though had to rewrite some Windows 11 registry settings just so games wouldnt crash with "driver error". But i hear Nvidia has such problems too 😛
tribal wharf
gpu is gpu honestly
compact silo
shitty windows is shitty windows
tribal wharf
ya well
you got something better lol
sure linux, if you really want to i guess
besides windows just works
abstract arch
Bazzite is good if you dont wanna learn (much)
wicked lantern
dps dying while i'm pulling/grouping mobs then blaming me for threat 🤡
These are the tears I enjoy the most
fringe mural
Everytime you post stuff like this i imagine you sitting in a shitty internet café in bangkok
playing old stuff
in flip flops
tribal wharf
theres all sorts of 1930s germany symbols and images all over the game
so thats the only place i can take screenshot
crisp ocean
I provided tier 5 stuff to craft a wrist and I got tier 4 :((
maiden ravine
These are the tears I enjoy the most
had that happen to a mage on last boss of skyreach, thankfully he didn't say anything
crisp ocean
quality thing bru
maiden ravine
I was using throw to get it to the back of the room
maiden ravine
I provided tier 5 stuff to craft a wrist and I got tier 4 :((
did you do a personal or a public WO?
crisp ocean
did you do a personal or a public WO?
public
maiden ravine
oof
yeah, that's always a gamble cause you'll get people just looking to skill up
guild or personal orders are the way to go
crisp ocean
crisp ocean
guild or personal orders are the way to go
can I do smth to increase the quality or do I have to craft it again
wicked lantern
can I do smth to increase the quality or do I have to craft it again
You’ll have to recraft but it shouldn’t cost anymore mats
crisp ocean
You’ll have to recraft but it shouldn’t cost anymore mats
how does that work?
wicked lantern
Use /2 trade chat, always bunch of crafting goblins in there to make stuff
crisp ocean
You’ll have to recraft but it shouldn’t cost anymore mats
wdym not cost mats tho
wicked lantern
how does that work?
Same interface, just in the top left you click recraft
maiden ravine
You’ll have to recraft but it shouldn’t cost anymore mats
it'll cost 25% of the original mats
but you won't need new sparks or crests
wicked lantern
^
crisp ocean
okay tysm!
crisp ocean
but you won't need new sparks or crests
thank god bru
maiden ravine
Well it'll need new crests and sparks when you recraft in season 2 but that's normal.
crisp ocean
ye ofc cuz the ilvl is higher
compact silo
These are the tears I enjoy the most
i'm the one crying cuz of the wasted time 😛
people on 14+s dont know boss mechanics or that they have to wait while tanks pull...
fringe venture
i'm the one crying cuz of the wasted time 😛
people on 14+s dont know boss mecha...
Yeah for all of us Who were slow on pushing its a pain bc u find a lot of brainless ppl on 14s-16s. Today I had a conversation with a guy about that and he told me that IS the price for going slow, now the good players are on higher Keys and the ppl doing that range IS weird, im wiping a lot of DGs bc of ppl not doing mechs, I feel same than when I started pushing from 2 lol
maiden ravine
That's what happens when there's new mounts to go after and easier keys
It feels nuts to me that in a few weeks we're all gonna have 298 ilvl shields
jagged pier
speak for yourself ill have a wep