protection

[young wasp]

block uptime = more shield slam damage

[oak ivy]

Crown of the cosmos, what part of Grasp of Emptiness do you tank to reflect? Is it the line?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[oak ivy]

Gotcha ty

[lusty grotto]

usually we break last so

easy to do so

[drifting basin]

Well that's another useful tip, didn't know we could reflect that dmg.

[lusty grotto]

id be worried about the things i pointed out first

but for future reference there's a reflect page pinned

[drifting basin]

With Shield block, I generally just hit the charge then both blocks up. Should I be saving a chage of it?

[young wasp]

In M+ use your brain

in Raid

[lusty grotto]

you should maintain it

[young wasp]

just fucking macro that shit into shield block unless you're worried about intermissions with nothing hitting you

[lusty grotto]

not slam it whenever

[lusty grotto]

NO

[young wasp]

NO!!!!!!!!!!

[lusty grotto]

this is not good advice

[young wasp]

can you explain why it's not good advice

[lusty grotto]

because they are playing ITF

first of all

[drifting basin]

Is there something I can use to track shield block specifically that I can put more towards the center of my screen? Maybe dumb but there's a good amount of time where I try and find it in the buff bar and I lose track of where it is.

[lusty grotto]

and its just bad play all around

[pastel summit]

CD manager.

[lusty grotto]

the CDM

[pastel summit]

Nice to see shield block, shield wall, battle scarred, etc.

[drifting basin]

Shows the buff timer or the CD timer?

[lusty grotto]

if its a buff, it shows when its up

enable the cooldown manager

[stiff inlet]

I used ArcUI and made a custom bar for it

[lusty grotto]

and find the advanced settings here

this is the buff tab

you can drag SB to bars if you want it displayed as a bar

or keep it as an icon

[glad magnet]

im the best prot warrior in 14AA, time to retire, i wont be taking questions, thank you for your attention to this matter

[stiff inlet]

lol grats

[undone beacon]

celeb status

[drifting basin]

...I feel kinda dumb for not knowing this was there. I use it on my druid to track lifebloom but for some reason it never showed up on my war.

My god that makes tracking that so fuckin easy

[lusty grotto]

[drifting basin]

I need to be in this chat more often. I've learned so many things over the last like 12 hours...

[lusty grotto]

aside from that, remember to NOT use revenge unless SS and TB/TC are on cd

and to press SS a lot more

also use IP at 70+ rage

[drifting basin]

Do I need to try and keep it full or just on?

[lusty grotto]

just on

full duration does not matter

oh you mean IP

[drifting basin]

Yea, the actual absorption part of it.

[lusty grotto]

nah IP you only press at 70 rage, its status does not matter

read this: #protection message

[drifting basin]

SS>TC>70+R-IP>Revenge

[lusty grotto]

TB goes first

thunder blast

[drifting basin]

And in ST swap revenge's place with execute?

[lusty grotto]

only in execute range

since we dont play sudden death

and yes only in pure ST, if there's adds you just revenge

[shrewd moss]

hey nim, how do I see my shield effective uptime on logs?

you posted a screenshot a little while ago and I'm trying to do the same thing but can't

[lusty grotto]

damage taken > hover over melee hits

[shrewd moss]

ty

[lusty grotto]

make sure its over the hits

under the hits column

[shrewd moss]

got it 🙂

oh shit 92%!!!!

i'm gaming!

[lusty grotto]

good job but thats only the bare min

make sure its over 95

[ivory barn]

3kio is in my grasp!

[shrewd moss]

aye aye

wtg!

[ivory barn]

noice!

[undone beacon]

You got this

so close

[fervent parcel]

is there a limit on how much haste we want?

[lusty grotto]

not this season

[fervent parcel]

like 30% or slam as much as humanly possibly

[lusty grotto]

never on the first season

just equip any haste gear

[fervent parcel]

ah ok im sitting at 30% rn and I know we rock into the fray so I got curious

[lusty grotto]

you need 1188 for ITF swap

as indicated in the pins

[fervent parcel]

ahhh ok thanks for your help 🙂

Do prot warriors playing at high level content like to stack crit more or vers

[lusty grotto]

whatever sims best

but if they reach a point in infinite scaling that they cant beat with gear, which is unlikely, they will lean to vers

but thats r1 key, not really anything under

[pastel summit]

For what

[lusty grotto]

so you shouldn't copy paste their stat spreads

[pastel summit]

In general as Rat says it's just what sims highest

Vers at last check affects more sources of damage than parry but

a minor reallocation usually isn't gonna be what tips the scales

[lusty grotto]

also mastery is NOT to be avoided

as a rule of thumb equip anything with the highest ilvl / str and haste

do not sacrifice ilvl for haste

etc

[ivory barn]

Pash, its closer! first 14 I've tanked this season

[undone beacon]

Easy money, you got this

[lusty grotto]

this some bullshit

wanted to do one more craft on nimchipadin

fuck it time

also got legs and weapon off AA from bonus roll, no box luck

[unborn plover]

hi, perhaps this is a dumb question but
When a boss is about to apply a bleed onto us should we :
1-Use shield wall before its applied, and we will get a weaker bleed ?
2-Use it once its applied, which mitigate the bleed dot

I don't know how it works

[abstract arch]

Yes

[pastel summit]

The bleed will deal reduced damage as long as your defensive is active.

There's a bit of an exception to this which has to do with how spells are queued and how damage is calculated where if a boss casts whatever ability on you and you wall late it'll hit you as if you didn't cast it

[glacial ridge]

Can anyone confirm if Shockwave works on the Safeguard Matrix interrupts on Lura?

[jagged pier]

On hc an lower it shpuld i believe cause any cc works on the in those difficulties in mythic it still only inturpts i believe

[valid edge]

does it matter on witch slot we put craftet gear? i got myth cloak and wrist out of the vault - so i think about an craftet amulet + belt. Should be fine, no?

[jagged pier]

Yes and no, u want to try and put them on lowest budget items for the embleishments if u can cause then u loose the least amount of stats

But belts only a tier above cloak and bracers so its fine

And crafting jewlery is usually fine

[sharp gale]

It’s like chest/helm/leg/wep which are big no (long term for the wep)

[valid edge]

i like amulet, so u can craft BIS Stats

okay - ty guys

[fringe mural]

you can still do delve or nullaeus?

[fringe mural]

we just have to believe very hard

[drowsy comet]

diabolical

[compact silo]

when dps says you dont have enough time to kill the last two bosses(only) on Seat and you have 9 minutes so they vote to abandon

my guy killing a boss for 5 minutes apparently

[sharp oracle]

Hey guys, i came back around 3 weeks ago. i'm currently tanking 11-12s, i focus a lot on my survivability for now and my dps is pretty low i think? of course i do not play perfectly but can low dps be mainly explained by focusing a lot on ignore pain as a rage spender? or is it something more obvious

[heavy sparrow]

can confirm. had hero up and just killed the 2nd last boss in 3min 12 seconds, 4mins on the clock w/ rp done group abandons

[naive ravine]

Share logs then we can tell you

(I have a feeling you are running 1/4 apex)

And IP is not what makes a prot war tanky

[tired girder]

Team, why is advised to start a pull with charge and avatar and not shield charge?

The shield from shield charge is not more important than charge and avatar?

[sharp oracle]

yes you are right

[naive ravine]

Dont do that, it makes you less tanky

Not more tanky

Check out the pins

And costs you a large number of dps

[sharp oracle]

oh ok

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/M69tTYCnZvhyPJxf?fight=last

here is maisara i just finished

[tired girder]

And both icyveins and wowhead tells to start a pull with charge.
Why?

[naive ravine]

Seems to be a privat log

[tired girder]

Normal charge dont give us shield block

[naive ravine]

Normal charge and clap gives you enough rage for SB

[sharp oracle]

sorry corrected

i will change my talents first and foremost

[naive ravine]

Yeah

Then blocked hits

Your effective uptime on SB is bad

[sharp oracle]

yes i saw that

[naive ravine]

Either you are not keeping it up or you are getting hit in the back

• you got your prio wrong

You should use TB, SS, TC, Revenge in that order

And only press IP at more then 70 rage

Its adviced to not track IP at all

[compact silo]

9 minutes more than enough time. especially when you got bl for last boss intermission

[compact silo]

shield block is your most important tool

[sharp oracle]

oh really, ok

[naive ravine]

Yeah IP is only used to dump rage

[sharp oracle]

thank you very much

[naive ravine]

👍

[compact silo]

ip worthless without SB

[tired girder]

Ok, but its better to press 2 buttons to have SB instead of 1 button and entering a pull with already SB from shield charge?

[naive ravine]

Why would it be better to use shield charge on only a few enemys when you could wait and use it on all enemys?

[exotic ledge]

Can we not sim for dung slice? How do I sim for m+

[jagged pier]

5 targets 1:30 mons

[crisp ocean]

how do defensive cds work, cuz I press them all at the same time, is that bad ?

[fringe mural]

which ones are you talking about?

demo shout will be used on cd if talented

then you only have 2 real cooldowns left for yourself

spell reflect against magic dmg

and shield wall against any heavy dmg

use them depending on what kind of dmg you take

and commanding shout is for your group mostly

not for yourself

[crisp ocean]

shield wall and demo shout

cuz I kinda just use shield wall both cds at the beginning of the pull

[naive ravine]

Still doesnt mean you have to overlap it with other stuff

[fringe mural]

i didn't say that

just that it's not really a choice to use it most of the time

since you will just press it when ready and fighting

which you won't with shield wall

[heavy sparrow]

All I know is I pop shield wall even it means the healer can delete some focus to the dps if I see a 2

[jagged pier]

I mean demo should be used on cd

And sw should be used on cd used around big pull and big busters

[plush tendon]

I would try to space Demo and SW out a bit

at least in a M+ pull, maybe while gathering a lot of mobs you pop a SW charge, then use demo when gathered

regardless, Demo should be used as often as possible for the rage gen+damage amp

[ivory barn]

SW + Demo does quite a lot already. Depending on pull size they may or may not be up together. The 14 pit I ran last night they were popped almost when the button came back

[plush tendon]

SW and Demo together might be overkill

if you can space them out a bit, you will have longer damage reduction coverage

[ivory barn]

Yeah, depending on the tank buster is when I combo them

[crisp ocean]

but sometimes idk why, I take a lot of dmg, even when my defensives are up. i’ll do logs

[ivory barn]

Like the first pull of pit we tried something slightly different and I popped wall to gather, then wall+ demo mid pull

[ivory barn]

Back clipped or magic?

[plush tendon]

first pull of pit you can for sure wall on the gather

once everything is together, you Demo+Avatar+lust

SW a second time there is pointless

[crisp ocean]

probably magic

[plush tendon]

maybe once Demo falls off

[ivory barn]

If it lives long it isn't

[solid sun]

Shield wall works on magic damage

[crisp ocean]

in pit what do you do when you get stacks that reduces armor

[ivory barn]

We pulled nearly the entire top platform around the first click guy

[crisp ocean]

iirc it was that pack before 3rd boss in algeth’ar

[ivory barn]

I wall and kite

[crisp ocean]

alr i’ll try that

[solid sun]

Did you pull everything before the third boss

Like that whole boss arena

[crisp ocean]

yeah

i shouldn’t have

pugs can’t interrupt and when we wiped I got blamed lol

[solid sun]

lol yeah I wouldn’t pull the whole enchilada

[plush tendon]

to my understanding, Pit timer is somewhat free

[crisp ocean]

do you pull each individually

[solid sun]

Half and half is what I usually see with my friends

[crisp ocean]

alright i’ll try next time ty

[solid sun]

Can’t say that’s the official strat but it works for us

[ivory barn]

The triple pack with the textbooks? If people use cc and lust

[solid sun]

I think we normally drag stuff up to the first pack

Then double pull

Then boss

[crisp ocean]

alright i’ll try tysm

is there a way to see routes with an addon or smth in game tho

[lusty grotto]

MDT

[primal cape]

whats the addons for marking important npcs ? that was automarker before midnight whats now pple using for that ? automarker still workin ?

[lusty grotto]

no

i personally just do it manually

[undone beacon]

you can also make a macro to mark things and put it on a bind

[primal cape]

heeelll naaaaaah

there is no addons for that right now fr ?

[lusty grotto]

that we know of, no

[primal cape]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

[lusty grotto]

pre-marking a set list of units is restricted

just mark them yourself and hopefully the rest marks their kicks etc

[ivory barn]

I need to set up pings so bad 😭

[lusty grotto]

its not a huge problem, people know the fire hawk and casters in WS, the little ele in seat, etc

[primal cape]

kk thanks

[ivory barn]

116 io between me an white bird mount today is the day!

[tribal wharf]

they removed the news channel i think

where it had all the updates from wowhead

[ivory barn]

It's still there?

You might've collapsed it with the arrow

[tribal wharf]

weird lmao

i did poking around prodding at random shit

and now its back, i think it was cuz the outage yesterday, i left, (thus my name doesnt have "game broken" or " healer monk over powered"

[ivory barn]

Anyone got a tip on how to make either of these better? The smaller name plate I can't click but the buffs don't overlap, and the big one the buffs are just to much

[elder thorn]

Why do people skip this ravager pack in AA, and instead pull the one with the battleaxes? What's the advantage?

[lusty grotto]

ravagers take forever and are super inefficient

they have too much HP

[tribal wharf]

in orginal df that was one of the pug destroyer pulls

many died to that

[lusty grotto]

battleaxes pose no danger to the group and have HP similar to the other mobs, they also dont jump around like idiots

[tribal wharf]

lots of bricks in that area

[lusty grotto]

easier to combo in a pull

[tribal wharf]

reason i will say it is

cuz they want you to double pull the worms

wyrms

sorry

[lusty grotto]

pulling more than one ravager in the whole dungeon is a time loss

[tribal wharf]

for more targets

[lusty grotto]

so

thats why

ravagers = inefficient

[tribal wharf]

so, and then you got cross action, on rng targted breathes that does some like dot after

cuz every single time i've gotten hit by it, now or df, pain afterwords

[ivory barn]

The frontal just says "bye bye"

[tribal wharf]

i can understand why someone might want to skip it, but it seems like alot of effort for... ? what to pull bridge with second there instead

i dont fully understand the logic of try to skip it

every single time, on land

i pull just the one thats right there and kill it

[kind flame]

So going on side to skip it is a lot of effort?

[lusty grotto]

dont get yogi'd

hes just like that

[toxic pewter]

word on the street blizz dropping some tank tuning notes tody ffor next week

[tribal wharf]

nim, i have you blocked for exactly this reason

[ivory barn]

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[ivory barn]

Bm monk gonna get cucked? Or are tanks gonna get buffed you think

[toxic pewter]

the brewmaster situation has become too difficult to ignore

the mob has spoken

it is done.

[toxic pewter]

possibly bit of both

[plush tendon]

straight copium XD

[toxic pewter]

lol

[plush tendon]

there will be tuning, at some point

until then, play some PVP

[ivory barn]

I think blizzard is just like

https://tenor.com/view/sandy-dragging-patrick-spongebob-meme-stan-twitter-gif-13540379491638491213

[plush tendon]

Blizz is always slow on tuning

its not new

it aint like Riot where you get a balance patch every other week

[coarse bay]

There’s a strong chance there’s no meta shift until next season

[plush tendon]

but Blizz also doesnt have to be; if you are really committed to pushing M+ for title or something, just make a brew; gearing is so easy now

[ivory barn]

"your x ilvl, you have to figure it out"

They would rather push a 90$ cash item with a fucked up patch

[plush tendon]

[ivory barn]

"oh we are listening and won't do that again" to hell you wont

[toxic pewter]

orbital nuke may be coming

they wont be able to dodge this one laughs maniacally

[lusty grotto]

blizzard shouldn't blow up brews

if they are going to do something, it should be buffs

wishing brews badly is just petty

[toxic pewter]

depending on what happens later today will tell it all

today is the DAY

[lusty grotto]

and honestly im fine with the meta shift not coming this way

being 2nd best is the best

or 3rd

[toxic pewter]

i am personally ok with it all, but the mob is very unhappy

[lusty grotto]

the public perception is already misguided as it is, they think because bears are showing up on time trials of all things then they are good

when time trials are just what? 15s?

MDI is not TGP anymore

its back to being MDI

[plush tendon]

based on the interview they did recently, they know Brew is too strong compared to other tanks in a M+ setting, but they are unlikely to make sweeping changes that would disrupt the current M+ meta

its also important to recognize that Brew is not a overpowered tank in raid

in fact, its in the bottom half. So there is a tight line of tuning they have to figure out

[lusty grotto]

if i was blizzard i would leave the tank balance as it is

[plush tendon]

they prob cant do that Nim

[lusty grotto]

its just people having really misinformed opinions and sharing reddit talking points

[plush tendon]

for that exact reason XD

[lusty grotto]

who cares

you cant control how the masses think

[plush tendon]

I mean.... lots of people?

[lusty grotto]

unless if you have a million bots making posts

[ivory barn]

My warrior tanked a 14 just fine at 280 ilvl

[lusty grotto]

do they?

how do you think they arent just bots in reddit?

reddit is already astroturfed to hell and back

[plush tendon]

honestly, IDK cause neither one of us has done a study on the state of M+ and the perception amongst the general pop

[lusty grotto]

so is literally every social media

[plush tendon]

all either one of us can go off is vibes

we will prob see tank tuning in the .7 and certainly in the .1 patch

[lusty grotto]

i personally dont care for it

[plush tendon]

yea, it doesnt matter to me

[lusty grotto]

what bothers me is people being petty for another meta tank, this isnt a unique situation, there's always a goddamn meta tank

and being driven by other's opinions instead of their own

case in point: you guys

[plush tendon]

If I want to push M+, I would swap to meta anyway. Thats what anyone should do. But I'm having fun on War and more fun PVPing this season

and 0 desire to push keys XD

except maybe the 1% title, but you can play whatever to get that

[solid sun]

Some people just need a break

[plush tendon]

heck, I gotta stare down the barrel of doing 4 keys on my main tonight

[solid sun]

If you’re taking a break you don’t have to care about the state of the meta

[plush tendon]

cause apprently its 'required of raiders" (technically 8, but fuck that noise XD)

[tribal wharf]

you can wait 40 minutes in que for the bad tank, or you do it enough times you become the bad tank

[plush tendon]

[ivory barn]

My 10-14 keys I apply to at max 3 groups before I get taken

Granted that's the highest I've done this season

[lusty grotto]

thats wild because when i apply i get picked instantly

turns out

io gets you invited

not your class

just like literally every season

[solid sun]

Not all the time

[ivory barn]

2880

[solid sun]

Pash was just talking about how long it can take in higher keys if you aren’t brew

[lusty grotto]

yes all the time , in that range

[tribal wharf]

i mean i did 11 pit the other day, 2 chest

[lusty grotto]

he said 10 to 14 rhino

not 19s or 20s

[tribal wharf]

could likely do 12 if i have presence of mind to run them

[ivory barn]

Oh 19-20's ye good luck

[tribal wharf]

ya, i dont give a fuck about running pokemon blue, in 14 seocnds lol

for world record

whoever enjoys that

have fun

[plush tendon]

avg wait time for weekly keys for me is about 15 seconds

[ivory barn]

I'll take my fun and stay down here. 3k will be my highest io ever

[plush tendon]

regardless of what toon im playing

[tribal wharf]

rename my character to precisely, G5h4872,

and then i only take this extrmelyt precise movement

[solid sun]

I just tell APB to carry me

[toxic pewter]

if u go for 3k might as well go for 3.4k

[solid sun]

Easy invites

[plush tendon]

yea, I gotta do that

still havnt hit 3k yet

[tribal wharf]

and i hit 1 button and the whole games over, i never do anything different ever in my speed runs

[ivory barn]

Instead of 12's it's 16?

[plush tendon]

I just really dont want to do Caverns again

[toxic pewter]

I think i retired i am playing a holy priest now lmao

[plush tendon]

[tribal wharf]

ya fuck right off with that shit forever is my opinion

[toxic pewter]

I couldnt handle the pressure of tanking anymore

[solid sun]

That’s okay I’m playing d4 now

[plush tendon]

naw friends, dont do that

[toxic pewter]

i got backseat tanked hard like 3 days ago so much so i just havent been on my warr since

[tribal wharf]

it takes 14,000 resets, to get 1 "run" that will maybe world record me

[plush tendon]

take up the sword and get into the arena!

hit some big Demolish Crits onto some stupid mage

[toxic pewter]

dude d4 is looking fun as hell enjoy

[plush tendon]

[lusty grotto]

nimchipadin has been healing to get uppies for ret

[solid sun]

It’s great dude

[lusty grotto]

having a fun time

[toxic pewter]

i could buy the new xpac with gold.... lol

i will think about it

[solid sun]

They give you a cinematic that tells you what happened up to this point

[toxic pewter]

do i need the previous xpac to play this newest one do u know

[solid sun]

Then you can vibe through the story

Very well done

[tribal wharf]

that shit would drive me crazy sorry,

[solid sun]

Idk. My friend bought me the current expansion so I’d play with him

So I assume you only need the previous expansion if you wanna play the classes that came out with it

[toxic pewter]

apparently they bundled vessel of hatred with lord of hatred thats good of them

[tribal wharf]

string of 20-30 minutes of only perfect inputs with literal zero distractions

[solid sun]

Sick

[tribal wharf]

to run a 19 or 20, NO THANKS

count me out chief

i dont have anything that big to prove to the world

[solid sun]

I was gonna play devo hunter

But pash said I had to play off meta

Or they wouldn’t carry me to 1%

So now I’m playing a different game

Wild ride

Our family has really changed this expansion

Ghash and Yam both quit wow, Pash stopped being a goblin, APB quit tanking, Cammy quit raiding, Guil returned, I sucked and then quit, harrow is building a house, Roid quit and came back, nome quit an started sunbathing, Late took a vacation

[toxic pewter]

lolol

[lusty grotto]

rat still ratting

[undone beacon]

pffft

[lusty grotto]

pash still pashing

[undone beacon]

I simply exist in a space

[lusty grotto]

apb still apbing

[toxic pewter]

lmao

cant stop.. i tried...

maybe one day...

[solid sun]

He quit tanking

That’s not the APB I know

My APB is stalwart. Strong and unfappable

[toxic pewter]

well I will be back...... muahahah

[undone beacon]

Damn apb whatcha playin now then

[solid sun]

Holy priest

[toxic pewter]

just still dont understand why holy priest so fun to me

most fun healer by far

[undone beacon]

I've considered learing Holy as an offspec

But i also hate healing keys

[toxic pewter]

healing so much less stressful than tanking for me at least lmao

then again im only doing like 10s so far lmao

shit gonna get wild higher i go i am sure

[undone beacon]

I panic too quickly to heal and I'd blow all my CDs on shit that doesnt matter lol

[toxic pewter]

yeah i will say if i mess up cd's things get stressful

ohsnp about to heal my first prot paladin

[ivory barn]

Idk what retro druid loves about warriors lol

[tribal wharf]

retro druid sounds like some classic wow streamer that also does old nintendo shit

[plush tendon]

ive always preffered tanking; there is something about being the one actually fighting mobs and bosses

[plush tendon]

predictable damage intake

[tribal wharf]

i have no preference of class for healer

its a player issue like tanks

there are some classes i have certain biases against, like priest has cloth

so it completely blows up if hit with melee

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah...

[lofty warren]

What target count is pwar capped at

[solid sun]

Ya mama

[frosty mango]

Depends on hero talents

I believe most things are soft capped at 5 besides ravager which I think is 8 or 10?

[undone beacon]

Sitting in a meeting listening to someone tell us how this new tool will help us "optimize our business continuity" and "stopgap measures within a box to improve efficiency"

kms

[solid sun]

What does that even mean

[frosty mango]

It means “buy my product”

[undone beacon]

^

Actually i think we already bought this product

But all these people know is sales babble

[solid sun]

I don’t want stopgap measures

Everytime my football team has a stopgap qb it sucks

Not a fun season

[frosty mango]

I built a tool recently we just sold and my pitch was “it just takes everything shitty about doing this thing and makes it so you dont need to do it anymore”

Was very good pitch

Very strong numbers

[undone beacon]

lmao

if it works it works

[solid sun]

That’s pretty cool. What’s it made out of

[ivory barn]

🤔

[lusty grotto]

its made out of layoffs

[frosty mango]

Indeed it is

[lusty grotto]

about 5k layoffs to be precise

[frosty mango]

Not quite 5k

[solid sun]

You made a tool created out of people losing their jobs

Are you Thanos

[frosty mango]

No I made a tool to help people losing their jobs because they screwed up this specific task something like 80% of the time

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

[lusty grotto]

nimchipadin has acquired 275 ilvl

[ivory barn]

[frosty mango]

The best use of ai isn’t eliminating jobs it’s making them more efficient, there’s no end to this work so making ai do half of it just makes it faster, and better, for the people who have to do it

[lusty grotto]

youre preaching to the choir

except

[frosty mango]

Ai is still far too dumb to take all of our jobs

[undone beacon]

If only shareholders felt that way

[lusty grotto]

when the choir is executives they see that as "oh, we dont need x2 workers anymore, so lets just sac em"

[frosty mango]

Just gotta spin it right!

[warm plinth]

Good morning my friends

How are we all doing

[undone beacon]

I'm just lucky that our CISO is a beast and is very protective of us security folk because i know the rest of the C-Suite is chomping at the bit

[warm plinth]

Those are certainly all words

[frosty mango]

It’s Friday!

[warm plinth]

[lusty grotto]

if lil timmy can do 4x his job, we wont need the other 3 homies in his team! Also lets keep pushing RTO even despite the fact that our workers will only speak to agents and chatbots, but instead go with the "we're RTO'ing, because it enables 'collaboration'"

[undone beacon]

I'm eepy but theres division wide meetings today

[warm plinth]

I am off today because I was supposed to have an appointment, but it got rescheduled

[frosty mango]

6 months ago I put a lot of effort into a bunch of zero trust upgrades and building supply chain measures out because I said ai proliferation was going to mean more zero days and our vp called me paranoid

[undone beacon]

So I'm playing funny mouse game while listening to "Roles of the Future: AI and Our Work in Connected Health"

[frosty mango]

Whose paranoid now, clown

Who’s?

Whose knows

[undone beacon]

whomst

[lusty grotto]

im super ok with ai

im just not ok with how mismanaged the hype is

[warm plinth]

I work for a pharmaceutical wholesaler and the fanboying over AI in our company is comical and sad

[lusty grotto]

and its weird saying hype like 8 years too late

[frosty mango]

We live in America, it will be monetized and enshittified by corporations to milk profit out of it and leave the every man pleb in the dust

Like everything else

[undone beacon]

All I know is all our vendors have slapped some kind of "AI assistant" into their tools and all it has done is slow those tools to a crawl

[lusty grotto]

suddenly management is shitting bricks at how expensive keeping licenses/contracts with the different model vendors is

[warm plinth]

Not one person knows how to use it properly; they all just think it's this magic tool they need to "take advantage of" or "leverage"

[lusty grotto]

and i still cannot get over the fact that they continue to push RTO when there is, in fact, no longer "team collaboration"

when we're knee deep in agents and chatbots

[frosty mango]

Spent two hours yesterday defending Claude code licenses to c suite people who think we can and I quote “just copy and paste it into copilot”

[undone beacon]

"Instead of building queries, you can just use NLP to ask the database what you want!"
i.e. it can process for minutes and give me something i didnt ask for

[warm plinth]

PTO like paid time off?

[lusty grotto]

LMAO

[frosty mango]

I think he meant rto

[lusty grotto]

RTO sorry

[sharp gale]

Raid time off ?

[warm plinth]

^

[lusty grotto]

return to office

[warm plinth]

Oh

[lusty grotto]

non-remote work

in general

[frosty mango]

See that’s just bad implementation lol

[undone beacon]

We're moving from Zooms to Teams and people are rioting in the town hall meeting

[solid sun]

There isn’t much AI in plumbing unless a homeowner googles something and then regurgitates what the ai readout says

[sharp gale]

I never worked remote so I’m kinda the grumpy uncle on that

[warm plinth]

I don't mind Teams, but I've also never used Zoom

[solid sun]

To question what’s going on in their build

[lusty grotto]

bro im still rioting my company decided to go from slack to teams, fucking team blows

[undone beacon]

Yeah for sure, but these vendors dont know what the fuck they're doing and their devs are pushed by the top level to "just put AI in there" to sell more

[frosty mango]

I had to actually give them a live demo of how claude code works, they thought all the devs were copy pasting into chatgpt

[lusty grotto]

well

codex, not chatgpt

im halfway joking

[warm plinth]

I couldn't care less what app I communicate on, but I have a soft spot for Teams because it enabled me to convince my manager to finally abandon our shared network drive and its host of awful annoyances for file storage

[undone beacon]

A place I interned in college used MatterMost

[frosty mango]

No they specifically thought all ai usage was chatgpt lol

[undone beacon]

That was neat

[frosty mango]

Teams is just worse slack with sharepoint

And I hate sharepoint

[undone beacon]

I'll share point you

Sharepoint is annoying though. Causes nothing but problems where I work

[warm plinth]

Eh, Sharepoint is irrelevant to me; we don't use it directly and I don't really give a shit where the stuff is being stored as long as it's not a network drive

[undone beacon]

Someone had mucked the permissions for our sharepoint in general and everyone could access everything

That was a mess

[solid sun]

I have an app on my phone that can measure how long stuff is

[sharp gale]

So cool

[warm plinth]

We have like a sharepoint page but it's really only used to access a couple matrices and gov agency websites lol

[sharp gale]

It’s with a picture?

[undone beacon]

i have an app on my phone that lets me play a little game where i use cats to attack enemies and they go raaaaa

[solid sun]

Yup

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-cats-breaking-bad-cat-jesse-pinkman-hank-schrader-gif-13219212059943967948

[sharp gale]

I have an app that tells me what kind of wine it is

[solid sun]

Does it drink it

[sharp gale]

A picture too

[solid sun]

“That is the color red”

[sharp gale]

Idk how it does it

[solid sun]

That’s cool though. I wonder how it knows

[warm plinth]

It could be wrong and you'd never know

drinks cyanide That's a wonderful pinot noir from the napa valley, year 2001

[sharp gale]

Yeah I mostly use it to take the front of the bottle in picture and you have comments etc

[warm plinth]

I don't know anything about wine btw; those are just wine words I threw together

[solid sun]

Vibe wined

[warm plinth]

100%

[solid sun]

I backed up the trailer and parked it the other evening

One try

Felt good as heck

[sharp gale]

I don’t really know english terms

[warm plinth]

I'm proud of you

[warm plinth]

gyatt rizz skibidi toilet?

[solid sun]

And my truck doesn’t have a trailer camera that tells you where it’s going based on your steering wheel turning

[sharp gale]

I bet there is a skibidi wine

[solid sun]

It does have a backup camera but that’s different

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-scary-skibidi-brainrot-cat-cute-spooky-gif-6516551560610607671

[warm plinth]

Maybe you should get a trailer camera that tells you where it's going based on your steering wheel turning

[solid sun]

That’s expensive

[warm plinth]

Oh

Get it on sale

tenor letting me down looking for the taladega knights gif

[lusty grotto]

presents kool-aide to app That is an earthy smelling merlot with a fruity aftertaste

[undone beacon]

Fuck me dude they just added ANOTHER tool to our stack called "Cortex"

[lusty grotto]

oh?

i know this one

[undone beacon]

Snowflake Cortex AI

[sharp gale]

Cortex is the front part of our brain

[solid sun]

Isn’t cortex the hologram lady that master chief loved

[undone beacon]

Just means people are gonna message me because they hear im the cortex guy but its not the same cortex

[warm plinth]

We have our own AI, then came out with an upgraded version, then licensed copilot, then upgraded our version again. We clearly have no idea what we're doing.

Why is everyone adding 57 to their name

[lusty grotto]

fury brain rot

[solid sun]

They like steak sauce

[undone beacon]

I'm going to start a business thats old fashioned, no technology. Luddite inc. Pen and paper everything.

Old fashioned consultants that sit in your office with a clipboard

[lusty grotto]

sit in your office? count me out

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/what-would-you-say-you-do-here-office-space-paul-lee-wilson-gif-3567862

[sharp gale]

@wicked pollen

[undone beacon]

Pay me a lot of money to sit in an empty office with failed RTO please and thanks

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto today is a good day! Got a raise 😁

[sharp gale]

Can you explain fiveseven

[lusty grotto]

yes ill take half a mil a year

sign me up if thats the case

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-14509012201879549605

[lusty grotto]

lets fucking go

[solid sun]

Grats dude

[lusty grotto]

wait a minute pash

[fringe mural]

Cortana

[lusty grotto]

youre describing management

[fringe mural]

You cretin

[undone beacon]

We can be RTO Engineering Consultants, focused on improving business efficiency through return-to-office optimization and white-glove analytics

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

i.e. we sit in your building with clipboards and drink your coffee and spit a bullshit report out once a month

[warm plinth]

Congrats!

[undone beacon]

and you pay us too much money

Its perfect

[dusky canopy]

Thank you all! 😎

Now we just need massive arms buffs

[sharp gale]

And steal toilet paper

[dusky canopy]

That’d be the dream

[lusty grotto]

consider me on board, lets make sure we have an office fridge too

and a lounge room

rat waits...

[ivory barn]

I need some quality advice. I want the smaller bar, but to be able to click shit. Would switching to plater just fix this mess?

[undone beacon]

Well if the client doesnt have that, then thats our first suggestion to improve workforce accumen and triple profitable outcomes

[plush tendon]

ive gotten used to playing with Platynator with the jundies profile

works really well

[lusty grotto]

rat nods confidently

[ivory barn]

I use platynator, but made my own

[lofty warren]

For both?

[plush tendon]

Plater just aint the same as it once was

[cosmic harness]

I'm a casual player and have been having a hard time getting into keys above 15-16 range, is BRM really that far ahead?

[lusty grotto]

no

get your io up

run your own key

i dont have problems in that range

[ivory barn]

^ running your key is the answer

[plush tendon]

its not 'far ahead'. But like any M+ season, you are fighting against meta bias

[cosmic harness]

I'm at 3300 io, I don't think it's bad for 15-16

[lusty grotto]

its not

but the higher, the better

[ivory barn]

I went up 500io doing that in a night

[lofty warren]

I was getting invites to +16s and im around 3.3k io during peak hours

[sharp gale]

I did 3 15s on my 3k rio ww monk just by doing my key

[lusty grotto]

what a massive chonker

[sharp gale]

Yesterday

[cosmic harness]

I'll give it a try with my own key, ty guys!

[sharp gale]

You have the most control over the success of your key

If you have the crown

[lofty warren]

During off peak hours I spent like 15 min spinning as pending though at 3.3k io so as the pool gets smaller the harder it might become depending on who is listing the keys

[lusty grotto]

what do pash

[sharp gale]

You missed the notice on ring enchants

[lusty grotto]

the what

[undone beacon]

imagine not having enchanted shoulders

[sharp gale]

Paladin runs eagle eye no ?

Since it got buffed to absolute broken

[lusty grotto]

sure but mastery is simming higher

for chipadin

[cosmic harness]

Maybe it has something to do, the last few days I couldn't play on peak hours cause of work, but will give it a try tonight

[frosty mango]

Yeah they are 99% the same

[sharp gale]

Rly ? On all my char eagle eye was 1-2% increase after the change

[lusty grotto]

the fucking recipe is like 25k

fine let me just buy it

[sharp gale]

Just sim real quick

Bc idk much about pal

[undone beacon]

How much is the enchant itself?

[sharp gale]

Maybe they are the only ones who don’t go eagle eye now

[ivory barn]

I still can't believe we wiped on first boss of a 14 pit and almost 2 chested it

[lusty grotto]

4k thats what im going to buy

[lofty warren]

Which 3rd stat is best seed/avoidance/leach?

[lusty grotto]

ive been simming between last night and today i still get zul'jins

dw

[sharp gale]

Im avoidance Andy as dps and leech for tanks

[lusty grotto]

ill swap when it gets outsimmed

[ivory barn]

I leaned into leech

[lofty warren]

Speed vs leach for tanks?

[sharp gale]

Speed depends

Just pick speed if you need… speed, like on dragons if you have enough speed you can go out of tether without move cd if you have enough speed (1 enchant as fury)

[lofty warren]

How about for m+ if ur guy completely ignores raid except 1x a week myth chim

[sharp gale]

Speed is very underestimated

Just take leech imo, as tank

[lofty warren]

My pwars all leach but the brews are hard for speed which made me wonder. Fastest class in game and still want more speed doesnt make sense to but

[ivory barn]

I watched my co tank who is brew do a 14 and they literally didn't drop below 50% hp

[lusty grotto]

how is that

a brew thing?

in a 14 we barely drop anyway

[ivory barn]

I felt like I was having issues, but probably was being back clipped

[undone beacon]

I make it my goal to stay below 30% hp so i can benefit from second wind

[ivory barn]

MoP version of second wind please

[lusty grotto]

skill issue

not a class issue

[fringe mural]

isn't that the one that drops from za chests?

[lusty grotto]

afaik delves

eyes of the eagle is the one that drops from chests

[fringe mural]

apparently has either a very low drop rate

or only drops for the profession then

because with the shitload of delves i've been doing...

[lofty warren]

Your hp % depends on your route and your dps and your healer. Its multi-factored

[fringe mural]

oh btw i tweeked the rage bar a little and have an in between solution now

it's a regular ragebar it just changes color when over 70

[warm plinth]

You change color when over 70

gottem

[fringe mural]

i do

i will go grey

but i for sure won't ignore pain

and audio cues for shield charge and demo/avatar help a lot

so i don't stare at them getting ready

i use them a lot more now

[glad magnet]

As the best prot warrior in 14AA I spam IP cause YOLO.

[fringe mural]

dat gravestone of shame in delves is so funny

"look that noob died in here"

[glad magnet]

Every time we find a guildie we screenshot and ping them in discord and share and call them bitch.

[lofty warren]

I saw Chinese logs timing 20s that use last stand and 1/4 apex so who knows what is true anymoew

[undone beacon]

Quick which quest should I do first?

[lusty grotto]

head to the depths

it sounds chill

[undone beacon]

Done

[lusty grotto]

wait

theres a secret show?!

turn your car around, the secret show calls you

[undone beacon]

Heard, secret show time

Apparently there are mimes there

[lusty grotto]

[tribal wharf]

LuDoNaRaTiVe DiSsOnAnCe

4/10 too much cheese

in my fuckin mouse game

about mice

and shrews and moles

[undone beacon]

Thanks ign

[ivory barn]

Yeah, healers are like ping pong balls, you either get a good one or a bad one

[tribal wharf]

jifif strikes again

welcome home ign reviewer

time to go back go mc donalds and put the fries in the bag

[toxic pewter]

now i want some mcd

[tribal wharf]

fake ass gamers

lol

[dusky canopy]

The pirate crafting game is pretty sick

Played a few hours last weekend

[lofty warren]

True. I usually check how much hp is doing compared to prior runs and what cds are available and adjust route. Like if it normally pull 3 packs with a good healer but the one I have is less good I'll split it into 2 packs.

Better to add 10-15 seconds due to slower pulls than add like 150 seconds due to wipe

[abstract arch]

I'm having more problems with my dps pugs

They look good on paper but they're just not delivering

[undone beacon]

ilvl and even IO can be dramatically inflated for sure for dps

It’s a lot easier for a dps to not pull their weight and get by still

[solid sun]

And sometimes doing good things as dps means you look a little worse on the meters

Can be hard to be properly evaluated if people don’t notice different things

[lusty grotto]

i wonder whats the most consistently fast way of getting cata charges

[solid sun]

Play cataclysm classic

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

Actually I think this is a great idea

If you play whatever classic you should get stuff for retail

Then we can all really spend tons of time playing wow!

Weekly keys, weekly raid, weekly PvP, weekly classic

[lusty grotto]

in that case, evercold is looking very appealing

especially since you wont have to farm gear for alt jobs anymore

[solid sun]

What’s evercold

I just searched and I see two messages from woahyer

[lusty grotto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3rfUC80DE&pp=ygUIZXZlcmNvbGQ%3D

[solid sun]

Oh is this the expansion that’s getting made fun of because of the story

[lusty grotto]

no

this is the expansion that comes out in january

also the story got good in the current one

they successfully u-turned

[solid sun]

Turns out the bad guys who wanted to merge all the realities or whatever was right all along and now we want to merge all the realities?

[lusty grotto]

well im not up to date

so i cant answer that

but thats not the impression it gave me

[solid sun]

I see

[lusty grotto]

more like "yeah go to the other shards"

[undone beacon]

Turns out the Jailer was right all along

[lusty grotto]

we already went to the light one in shadowbringers, and the void one in endwalker, and the lightning one has a big chunk in the current expansion

sounds more like "hey go over there and help out"

[solid sun]

I never did finish the msq when the current expansion came out

[hoary spear]

Hey lovely prot warriors, I have a question. I saw a video on social media which said an easy hack is to just make a macro with Shield Slam and Shield Block in it, which should gaurantee 100% uptime - is this true?

on Shield Block I mean

[lusty grotto]

no

[plush tendon]

do not do this

[undone beacon]

whoever posted that is spreading misinformation on the internet

[lusty grotto]

that's just absolutely banned

[hoary spear]

Pahaha ok!

[lusty grotto]

and will hinder you greatly

[hoary spear]

Thank you guys, I guess it was just for views and clicks

[plush tendon]

they may also be someone who relies on the one button

idk, improper play is not something we promote and thats very improper

[past summit]

whats improper about it?

[lusty grotto]

you will run out of charges

you will sap any rage you make with SS

[past summit]

thats not how I think of the word improper

[lusty grotto]

you will absolutely get astro fucked when you eventually talent ITF

[glad magnet]

As the best warrior in 14AA I do this

[hoary spear]

It was this vid!

[past summit]

just test it on a training dummy

[lusty grotto]

pleaase remove it

dont advertise it more than the mention

we dont wanna give hits to someone spreading misinformation

[plush tendon]

[undone beacon]

It is improper because it leads to rage starvation and low shield block uptime, which is the exact opposite of what Pwarr wants

[plush tendon]

get webster dictionaried

[hoary spear]

What about shield slam with ignore pain?

[lusty grotto]

you do not put anything with shield slam

[past summit]

you will run out of rage

[lusty grotto]

you have a solo shield slam bind

[glad magnet]

It’s not right but if you’re lazy and not doing title keys it’s completely fine IMO

[hoary spear]

ok noted 😄

[lusty grotto]

that shield slam bind, SHOULD NOT have anything else tied to it

[past summit]

does anyone else feel like ignore pain is very underpowered right now?

[plush tendon]

bruh, youll notice it well before title keys

[lusty grotto]

no

[glad magnet]

When will I notice

[lusty grotto]

IP is what it has always been

[past summit]

sure, but the rest of the game has changed around it

[plush tendon]

i wouldnt know, cause I play the game well

lets not be playing poorly

cool

[lusty grotto]

its not underpowered

[past summit]

ok, disagree

[lusty grotto]

explain

[past summit]

explain what? it is an opinion not a fact

[glad magnet]

Fine. Confirmed adequate in 14 or below. Best I can do.

[lusty grotto]

ok then

[past summit]

and yours is an opinion too

[warm plinth]

Opinions can be explained...

[lusty grotto]

no it snot

its a fact

[past summit]

so provide proof

[warm plinth]

You're the one that came in here making a bullshit claim XD

[plush tendon]

what about IP is underpowered?

[cerulean tusk]

Oh what goodness have I stumbled upon now?

[past summit]

i asked a question

[dusky canopy]

????

[cerulean tusk]

Oh IP, this gonna be good

[plush tendon]

its a off the GCD rage dump

[lusty grotto]

IP hasnt changed from the cap of 30% of HP, damage hasn't really changed other than what deals it

[warm plinth]

And then said you weren't gonna explain it because "it's an opinion, not a fact"

[plush tendon]

that prevents some damage dealt to us

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/go-away-move-away-go-gif-8096881

[plush tendon]

Pash is so wise

[lusty grotto]

and furthermore, IP is still our rage dump

[warm plinth]

It's the PicMixer I think

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1481375328038424617/image0.gif

[quick iron]

does shield block have max duration it can go up to?

[warm plinth]

3x its duration

[glad magnet]

Keep it up I’ll macro ignore pain to shield slam

[dusky canopy]

24

[lusty grotto]

now is not the time for meme-ry

[plush tendon]

honestly kid, do what you want

[cerulean tusk]

Not at all, it is still doing its intended job rotationally, mechanically and effect-wise. What are you thinking of in particular as a problem?

[past summit]

I didn't say I had a problem, I just want it to be more powerful

[plush tendon]

in what way?

[lusty grotto]

any particular reason as to why

[past summit]

doesnt everyone want more power?

[lusty grotto]

and have you read this? #protection message

[glad magnet]

To be fair, I think IP should get buffed till I’m as durable as a brew.

[cerulean tusk]

So power for powers sake?

[past summit]

^

[lusty grotto]

well turns out

you can buff IP

by equipping AP

and raising your HP

[warm plinth]

There's no real scenario where you can go over Shield Block's max duration. Even if you used Shield Block x2, Shield Charge, and immediately Shield Slammed with Heavy Repercussions talented, you'd only go over by maybe a second. And you'd basically have to do that on purpose for no reason.

[lusty grotto]

will it make you "more powerful"

no

because in the end its still a rage dump

and Shield Block is superior in every single way

[cerulean tusk]

I think his point is more of the line of "making better baseline", than buffing it ingame through effects that are there

[past summit]

he knows what I meant

[cerulean tusk]

Rat can be a bit deep end on things, when he gets hyperfocused

[glad magnet]

I want to be as tanky as a brew. I have plate armor. I have a shield. And I’m being laughed at by a drunken panda.

[lusty grotto]

youre not helping cat

[cerulean tusk]

I am balancing the scales

[lusty grotto]

brother youre doing 14s

you ARE as tanky as brews

[past summit]

lol

[lusty grotto]

if not more in specific circumstances

[glad magnet]

True. I’m the goat.

[cerulean tusk]

I found the statement that warrior is less tanky than brew, a bit weird and off.

[lusty grotto]

because its false and misguided

[plush tendon]

lads.... I think this is just rage bait

[lusty grotto]

that was my takeaway too

but im just playing along

[past summit]

soem people just like to argue for the sake of argument, take care folks

[lusty grotto]

lol

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/bF9PNLTGjFG.gif

[cerulean tusk]

We do love doing that, yet, that statement of yours seems to be one you took a second look at and went "oh, my bad"

[glad magnet]

If we’re as tanky as brew nomeratur wouldn’t have retired. Checkmate.

[lusty grotto]

ezkath learn to read the room

youre not funny

maybe in a specific scenario, you might be

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, it wasnt the worst joke in the world. Don't be so harsh on him

[warm plinth]

Come on, no reason to make it personal

[solid sun]

Well

What if they made IP like the start of Legion version again

That was kinda sick

[cerulean tusk]

Rhino, that is not helping, get poached

[glad magnet]

It’s okay nim is filled with self loathing because of his on inadequacy and can only resort to insults and paying for fancy names. I’m no upset.

[plush tendon]

idk what the deal is with the fixation on IP is

[cerulean tusk]

Huh?

Why u attak rat

[solid sun]

:(

[glad magnet]

Rat attack me I attack rat

[plush tendon]

its like, a fine ability

[cerulean tusk]

You boyos need to learn how to respond in kind, not escalate

holy

[lusty grotto]

if you think im being insulting, you have no idea

[warm plinth]

wasn't the only difference that it was 90% instead of 50%? It was like that all of Legion

[cerulean tusk]

See, now Rat activated

[solid sun]

Nah at the beginning of Legion it was insanely broken

[lusty grotto]

my point is that you went on about memeing while there were some legitimate questions

learn to read the room

and stop with the memeing

when people do have actual questions

[solid sun]

Idr the details but I know pwar got nerfed because of it during emerald nightmare

I think some rage generation got hit too though

[plush tendon]

I wouldnt know

I didnt pick up war till BFA

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/N0CIxcyPLputW

[plush tendon]

Was a BDK truther

[hoary spear]

How are people attaching the shield spikes? It says they cannot be applied to items above level 80 for me?

[warm plinth]

Think that was fixed, no? And it was like negative damage anyway

[solid sun]

Yeah it’s fixed

[jagged pier]

BUT GHASH THE TOP IOs ARE RUNNING IT IT MUST BE BIS

[hoary spear]

ok!

so nothing goes on my shield?

[warm plinth]

Nopers

[solid sun]

Nah nah pony is good people

He’s not memeing

[warm plinth]

Shield should remain clean-shaven

idk why I said it like that

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, even if it litteral 0.00001 value, it is still added value. So BiS

[solid sun]

I assume there’s gonna be another, better evercold trailer

[cerulean tusk]

Would I recommend buying an account to get access to the spike? No.
Is it still added value and part of BiS setup, yep

[solid sun]

This one was not hype at all

[solid sun]

No because they fixed it so you can’t put it on

[cerulean tusk]

Read what I wrote

[solid sun]

Is it still added value? No

It can’t still be added value because you can’t equip it

[lusty grotto]

yes that was the teaser

[cerulean tusk]

It already is on ppls shields, no?

[lusty grotto]

we're still more than a half a year away anyway

[cerulean tusk]

Or did blizz take time of day to deactivate it

I doubt they did

[solid sun]

Idk if it still does damage for them or not

[lusty grotto]

they didnt remove the existing applications no

[solid sun]

But something you can’t put on your shield is not part of your bis list

[cerulean tusk]

If it does, it is part of the BiS setup

Go buy an account

[lusty grotto]

yeah for a whole 50 damage

[solid sun]

No that’s against tos

[cerulean tusk]

I aint the blizz police, I wont tell on ya

Go get the BiS, as it is still the BiS, even if ppl can no longer get it themselves

The last part being my point

[solid sun]

Nope

Breaking tos isn’t part of bis lists

[cerulean tusk]

You and your lists

[warm plinth]

I gotta say

[cerulean tusk]

I am saying BiS, as in best in slot, the litteral term

[warm plinth]

We argue about some dumb shit in here

But this might be the dumbest

[cerulean tusk]

Shush, this spike is important

I heard it is 50+ dam

[sharp gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/high-cortisol-1

[solid sun]

It isn’t best in slot though because buying an account gets you banned and getting banned means you do zero damage

[cerulean tusk]

Does not make the item less BiS, just cause you cant get it

It is the BiS by merit of being the best option

[solid sun]

It isn’t an option at all

[sharp gale]

Best option is reroll

[cerulean tusk]

I gave you the option tho

[solid sun]

Nope breaking tos isn’t an option because I’ll tattle to get you banned so you can’t out damage me

[cerulean tusk]

You may deny reality, all you want. But shieldspike still BiS, you can get it and I have won all points. You just naysaying and denying on moral principles

[sharp gale]

I think hacking Blizz servers to one shot bosses is bis

[solid sun]

Yeah that’s true

[crisp ocean]

can you tell where the first boss of pit is going to be pointing ?

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768006676640825385/1358681570864664606/essaying.gif

[lusty grotto]

do you mean which forge he will activate?

[jagged pier]

yer which ever one hes close too

[lusty grotto]

yeah

its distance based

[solid sun]

Two combat modes for the new ffxiv expansion

Is this just their version of the one button

[lusty grotto]

no

it just condences combos

[jagged pier]

no its like in wow where your filler now just aoe and ST

[lusty grotto]

it reduces button bloat without reducing abilities