protection

[jagged pier]

takes forever

[plush tendon]

thats why you send one tank to pull trash onto the boss

[jagged pier]

quite hard in AA

[plush tendon]

I guess for bird boss yea

[lusty grotto]

Is it a true statement that given the sim results, the trinket is not worth getting since it is below currently equipped gear?

it's not worth getting OVER THE HELM. Meaning: if you have to choose helm over trinket, you can only choose one. IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU DONT WANT TO GET THE TRINKET IN ANY OTHER SITUATION.

[plush tendon]

but I can think of ways for the others

[lusty grotto]

this is basic vault simming 101

[lofty warren]

I removed helm option completely and reran with same results (0.1% increase in st and -0.3% in 5t). Tbh 266 vs 289 is not that big of an ilvl gap and think it indicates that solar prism is weak if it doesnt beat out a stat stick with the same secondary stat

Ty im good now ❤️

[solar cave]

Guys I really would like to use second wind as protection warrior, I'm using the recommended WOWhead MT talents. Which talent in your opinion is worth resigning for second wind ?

[lusty grotto]

none

because we always take damage

so it almost never activates

[solar cave]

but SW is so comfy 🙁

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter if it doesnt do anything

[fallow depot]

first time warrior, first time prot, first time tank
i'm terrible, but i finally have fun in wow

[undone beacon]

We all start somewhere!

[fringe mural]

and the 2nd part of the talent is useless?

i mean we are not dks, so we don't want to sit at those hp levels i guess

it has helped me when my healer died and the incoming dmg was low enough i could offheal it

[mighty valley]

something is going horrifically wrong if you're spending a ton of time at very low hp, something that a tiny regen tick is unlikely to save you from

[fringe mural]

yeah i think so too, i just pick the talent for solo content

when i do not have a healer

[tribal wharf]

its amazing how many groups wipe to golem and banshee fight

[lofty warren]

For my knowledge in future, should pwar simc duration be 1.5 min or 5 min? Most specs use 5 min but I swear I was told to use 1.5

[tribal wharf]

that fight i have repeadetly wiped to

more than anything

most other bosses just fall over

[fringe mural]

for the best sim result, use multipliers of your cds, the longer the more accurate in theory

[lusty grotto]

no, but if youre at that poin you have bigger issues to worry about and 2% hp per second is not gonna save you, so why would you commit a point to half a talent?

[mighty valley]

usually 1.5 for m+ aoe and 5 min for bosses

[tribal wharf]

no, wait, first boss of caverns is running for worst boss

[undone beacon]

first boss of caverns is so whatever

[tribal wharf]

looney toons cartoon fight

[fringe mural]

true, when i kite in solo content i trigger the first part so it's useful to me then

[undone beacon]

basically free as long as people open their eyes

[tribal wharf]

its so horrific in a bad group

just trust me on that

[undone beacon]

thats true of any fight

[tribal wharf]

200000%

[fringe mural]

you seem to collect bad groups

[lofty warren]

When the bird jumps and makes pee circles on the ground, the place where the bird is when he cast pee circles is always safe

[fringe mural]

you can also just step aside

very hard

[jolly bough]

Anyone actually running puzzle box in mythic+?? Its an option in my vault.

[fringe mural]

unless idk you're colorblind, but there's a mode for that

[fringe mural]

nim is a fan

[lusty grotto]

our recommendations arent for solo content

[fringe mural]

with proper timing it's a great trinket

[tribal wharf]

i like it but i am a bad player

but at the same time,

i think it it is slightly curse

[fringe mural]

i know, i didn't say he should take it, i was asking if the 2nd portion of the talent matters

enough to take it

or consider it

[lusty grotto]

no

thats the gist of it

[undone beacon]

it was goated for a week during prepatch with that one pvp talent in open world

[errant wagon]

anyone know for mythic paladins fight, does spell reflect on shield of the righteous do MORE damage if you take the double tank buster? (Judgement -> Shield without having co-tank taunt swap)

[fringe mural]

i got that

[errant wagon]

just trying to parse 😛

[lusty grotto]

in mythic, yes

in heroic, no

[errant wagon]

ok so intentionally taunt swap late for the big dam. tyty

[lusty grotto]

unless it got fixed somehow

[tribal wharf]

i a bit regret taking it

[fringe mural]

why is that? is the dmg of the spell increased in mythic while a judgment is active and in heroic the dmg taken of players with judgment?

so SR takes the bigger value in mythic

[undone beacon]

Bro go do ur quests

[lusty grotto]

i dont care enough to answer that, it just is

[tribal wharf]

what the hell are those

[lusty grotto]

youre not gonna realistically do late swaps unless you want to parse

so its not worth exploring

[fringe mural]

yeah makes sense

[fringe mural]

yeah, people

having a full questlog open all the time

at least shift click it if you don't wanna do them

hide those mf's

that tradechat, damn

full of crafters

we don't have that on my shard

just one every other hour or so

[fringe mural]

too bad only one can be reflected

[lofty warren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eJoGxNzURHogUqBorhEToB

I did 5t for 1.5 min and added 289 gaze trinket (6/6 myrh). This is showing that the 263 ilvl crit stat stick is better in 5t that the 289 heart from ws? Bro how is this stat stick outperforming all these 6/6 myrh trinkets that are on the "trinkets you shluld get pages"

[fringe mural]

if they all could, you could just do a warrior only fight

and never swap

[plush tendon]

brother, you gotta stop with the sims XD

[lofty warren]

Ok i won't post more. Im just blown away than this champ trinket is beating up on 6/6 myth "a or s tier" trinkets

[fringe mural]

a stat stick has perma stats

if you can't align the uses/procs with your dps cooldowns

it just comes down to mean value

[lofty warren]

If that stat stick trinket coild be heroic it would probably sim higher than myth gaze

[fringe mural]

this was one of the best trinkets in cataclysm

for the reason you had the proc up all the time

[lofty warren]

Murlok.io says these are the best trinkets. Little do they know the 6/6 champ track sims better than myth heart of ancient hunger

[fringe mural]

where is the stat stick from?

[undone beacon]

Its also a trinket that you only get one shot at a week off the world boss loot table, and can come with any of the 4 stats

[fringe mural]

oh

[undone beacon]

So its not like its a super common trinket

[lofty warren]

World boss

[fringe mural]

if you scale up the values of vessel of acceleration

it basically IS the vessel of acceleration

just better

because of perma uptime

not needing to proc

[cedar rune]

how badass would it be if they let you max myth any trinket with the voidcores haha, would actually make weird trinkets like this relevant

[lofty warren]

I get there are super overstatted trinkets from way back when but this is over on current tier

[fringe mural]

the vessel has 9 str and "perma" 10 crit

scale that up to yours

and you have 90 str and 100 crit

[undone beacon]

Its an overbudget statstick trinket yes

[fringe mural]

wait

i have the vessel

from cata tw

let me check real quick

[undone beacon]

Equipping a mastery Farstrider Insignia is only like 1k dps loss in ST for me over a heroic Vaelgor's Final Stare on spriest

[fringe mural]

oooh shit

you could get the vessel on heroic

from the raid quest

damn

[undone beacon]

yep

[fringe mural]

i got the widow ring on hero

[lofty warren]

Bro this world boss champ trinket sims higher than myth 6/6 umbral plum (the one from the 2nd to last boss)

[fringe mural]

with how much we crit

basically the same

yay

[fringe mural]

can you sim heroic vessel?

[ivory barn]

19*5=95?

[fringe mural]

yeah it's a little less crit

like 6-7

7

not as good as your crazy trinket

i'll sim it once i finish work lol

[ivory barn]

leave that poor thing alone. Only reason I got it is because I main spec DPS in raid lol

[fringe mural]

Haha never

[lofty warren]

With heroic vessel

[fringe mural]

but it guess we won't get another cata tw before s2

[lofty warren]

Shows that heart from ws dungeon (6/6 myth) is 1% better than vessel

[undone beacon]

We def will

[fringe mural]

hmmmm

[undone beacon]

S2 probably wont be until late september

[fringe mural]

so there's a chance

The comparisons are a little whacky pepe

[lofty warren]

No need to waste time in myrh raid. Myth plume from 2nd to last boss only 0.2% better than myth from ws dungeon that you can bonus roll

[fringe mural]

i would make alnseer static

[toxic pewter]

wat trrinket u goin on about this champ one

[fringe mural]

it's a stat stick from the world boss

Passive str and random secondary

no proc

[lofty warren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oR7BfHnoAi8oKxKWU6DEkp

Look its from world boss thay is better than all max myth trinkets except myth gaze

[fringe mural]

it's better for your gear though

One would need to sim either naked or with bis gear to really know

[ivory barn]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q4kPDjdFPJqr3MkmXELHQ9

Heart is 180 DPS

[tribal wharf]

Do you know what my favorite thing to do is, in warcrap?

[toxic pewter]

hmm interesting

[lofty warren]

Cant believe im only figuring this out now I could have gotten bis trinket from wb on all my alts for free

[lusty grotto]

yes, because its super farmable

[toxic pewter]

can get a hero version of it

[lusty grotto]

you instantly get a Primary + Crit trinket every single time, on a weekly basis

super farmable

/s

[undone beacon]

you do realize you get one item from the world boss a week per account, right

[lofty warren]

Think you need to roll the trinket and it gives random stats and is capped at champ track

[lusty grotto]

cant wait for pepega to blow his trinket upgrade on that one

[lofty warren]

Ohh thought it was per toon

[undone beacon]

Per account

[toxic pewter]

oh wait is it a world boss trinket or a delve trinket

[lofty warren]

Still i didnt wb for 3-4 weeks now

[lusty grotto]

world boss

[toxic pewter]

ok my mistake then

[solar yarrow]

doe field dressing interact with ignore pain?

[valid violet]

Just wanna thank whomever suggested the Puzzlebox - that thing works well if you know when to use it - before pull or on the Graveblades in PoS if you don't have SW stacks

[ivory barn]

Nim, would you craft a 1h mythic w/o embellishment, or go farm a different dungeon for a 1h?

[cerulean tusk]

You still at it after hours, what is the TLDR?

[lusty grotto]

a whole nothingburger

as usual

[lofty warren]

What do you mean blow my trinket upgrade? Is it possible to beef it up to 298 ?

[lusty grotto]

lol no

[lofty warren]

Imagine if that trinket dropped with haste. It would probably be literally better than myth gaze

[lusty grotto]

nope

[rocky crest]

hit spell reflect for the frost slash. mitigates 25%. If you're not reflecting lich or some caster

[lofty warren]

Hmm. Maybe it gives so much haste that it pushes you way past diminishing returns so you effectively get super super haste dr

[lusty grotto]

MDR for SR doesnt fade after a reflect

there's two buffs for SR, one of them never drops after a reflect: the MDR

whether you reflect or not, it does not matter

[plush tendon]

id send a wep upgrade if you need it

and have crests to burn

otherwise, just hold pat. Theres no rush

[ivory barn]

I can craft a myth weap next week

[plush tendon]

What do you need the wep for?

[ivory barn]

Burned crests on tier this week

More damage

[plush tendon]

are you progging mythic raid? doing higher keys?

if you are able to clear the content comfortably with what you have, then I wouldnt send a mythic wep craft

[ivory barn]

I want to climb past 3k io only in heroic raid

[plush tendon]

cause crafts are, overall, a crest loss

though, as we get further into the season it matters a bit less

still each week you get 2 chances at myth loot from dungeons

and a mythic box

[ivory barn]

Next week vault as prot

[lofty warren]

Better to bonus roll to replace a heroic low stat like neck or to try to get a myth shield to replace crafted 285?

Its not just a sim question bc shield gives def value and can be bumped to 298

[plush tendon]

idk what content you do, but if you should be sending bonus rolls on dungeons that give you the highest expected upgrade

its not really a cookie cutter answer

instead of looking at the slot to upgrade, look at the dugeon loot pool that gives you highest/most potential upgrades across all slots

[undone beacon]

Use them all in Preys for the mogs fr fr ong no cap

[lusty grotto]

the bonus roll doesnt automatically give you the item you want anyway

so you target dungeons that have the most potential upgrades and 1 or 2 you are targetting

and not 1 dungeon for only ONE item

[dusky canopy]

That’s funny I swear it worked like that for me

[ivory barn]

Trying to decide my next investment after light ring

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/punt-kick-1--k01KQDEDG1CH9FZ5PPDJM197FVD

[plush tendon]

EX: Nexus Point a lot of people are bonus rolling for rings

but there is also a shield in there

which makes it a super good bonus roll target since you while you go for best rings, you could potentially get a shield upgrade

[ivory barn]

Been rolling fury to try and target ring

[fringe mural]

but a shitty dungeon once you have shield and sword

currently seat is the only one that is giving me upgrades

[plush tendon]

yea

its all relative

there is no size fits all for any of this

[fringe mural]

and i can blow 6 bonus rolls there and always get an upgrade

no matter what i get

[plush tendon]

my decision on bonus rolls is super simple

I sent my first 4 on mythic chim

[ivory barn]

Every bonus roll from there I used on the catalyst or ring

[plush tendon]

and saving my next two on mythic belo

[fringe mural]

i don't myth raid so

[plush tendon]

yea, its harder for the M+ only lads

[lofty warren]

That makes sense thx. Same for you too @plush tendon

[lofty warren]

Have you been doing your weekly world boss for chance at bis trink? I bet ppl will also just trade you since they just think its a trash champ track (if wb drops are trade able im not sure if they are now)

[fringe mural]

the only thing that was shit for me from seat was the trinket

i got that one already, so can't get shit anymore

[plush tendon]

I got mythic Gaze and will get Belo trinket

those are 100% BiS

[lofty warren]

Belo trink 0.2% upgrade from the champ track wb one so technically you're not wrong but are you farming myth belo now? If you are then I would think your guild ia doing sale runs too ans funneling loot to buyers

[fringe mural]

dude you can't possible target that one

did you sim the haste version?

[fringe mural]

you go for crit or mastery version?

i mean you scan swap but what do you use

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, next week it will

[ivory barn]

Depending on what you decided to go get

[cerulean tusk]

reminds me, I got to pug tictactoe

[plush tendon]

I think mastery sims higher for me

[fringe mural]

makes sense, for me heart of ancient hunger sims higher than crit plume

just 20 dps but

i didn't try mastery plume yet

[lofty warren]

Well you can do wb for your chance ( I havent been doing wb for like a month now)

[fringe mural]

i have the champ vessel i'm good thanks

difference is negligible

[lusty grotto]

dont be like me guys

run a dungeon

"im gonna slam the bonus roll"

dungeon ends

"alright here goe...

[fringe mural]

didn't buy the rolls for this week?

[lusty grotto]

realizes i dont have voidcores cause i havent done the quest

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-scared-4nUjFdHFdHQiY

Spooky rat story!

[fringe venture]

What IS that trinket ur talking about?

[cerulean tusk]

The world boss trinky

Forgotten Farstrider's [varriant name, based on stat]

then insignia

[lusty grotto]

it does not matter, you cannot farm it reliably

[cerulean tusk]

I got it in one go, on haste, rat

you jelly?

ye u jelly

[lusty grotto]

it probably doesnt sim as high as the crit one anyway

im not

i sent my monk the versa one

i could care less about it lmao

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cbc-schitts-creek-Ifrm2PB25hiiMFI6kN

[lusty grotto]

it is a trash trinket, pepega is just clueless

[lofty warren]

Imo that wb trinket should be in guides especially if it beats out 6/6 s tier trinks

[lusty grotto]

and i cant be bothered to keep explaining

[lofty warren]

Why is it a trash trinket? Are sims lying/bugged?

Its just flat stats so its doesnt "line up with other cds"

[fringe venture]

Im so pissed today with game, spent all my playing time on trying pug myth Chimaerus for the bonus roll and after about 40 wipes with different raids didnt get to kill It, Is so annoying ppl keep focusing on dmg and cant take care of 8 interrupts ffs. And on some of them even blamed at me because they said tank IS Who must Kick all. Supossed all of them to be ppl Who already killed It, now the trinket IS 50% chance since I got chest past week. I think I dont get into a raid for sooooo long as soon as I get that damned trinket

[cerulean tusk]

Im so pissed today with game, spent all my playing time on trying pug myth Chimaerus for the bonus roll and after about 40 wipes with different raids didnt get to kill It, Is so annoying ppl keep focusing on dmg and cant take care of 8 interrupts ffs. And on some of them even blamed at me because they said tank IS Who must Kick all. Supossed all of them to be ppl Who already killed It, now the trinket IS 50% chance since I got chest past week. I think I dont get into a raid for sooooo long as soon as I get that damned trinket

[pastel summit]

speccin tremor as warr cos the shams never have it bound

[fringe venture]

I do and even with that they still not kicking

[outer willow]

Fuck I hate that for you

[fringe mural]

idk pepega

that is crit farstrider on the bottom

all simmed together with alnseer

for equal comparison

[lofty warren]

5 tar 1.5 min sim?

[fringe mural]

even the delve heroic trinket sims higher

[fringe mural]

no, 1t 5 min

[lusty grotto]

its almost like sims are different between characters due to stat spread

who knew

[toxic pewter]

[lusty grotto]

do the aoe sim

[fringe mural]

ok

[lusty grotto]

because thats what he will suggest

[lofty warren]

Yes the champ bis one does worse in st 5 min can you try 5 tar 1.5 min?

[fringe mural]

you are a seer

he did suggest that

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-1zSz5MVw4zKg0

[fringe mural]

still not even close to umbral plume lol

[lusty grotto]

[lofty warren]

What are the 5 tar 1.5min results

[fringe mural]

this

bottom one is farstrider with haste

the higher one is with crit

[lofty warren]

Idk these numbers qhays the percents

[lusty grotto]

press this @fringe mural

and repost them

[fringe mural]

found it

the plume is the crit plume

[toxic pewter]

why every1 got alnseer but me

[lusty grotto]

thats not even the full list

of potentially good trinkets

but still

[fringe mural]

yeah

i just took some examples

from different content

[lusty grotto]

[fringe mural]

that's a heroic vessel

btw

and myth plume, myth heart and myth heart

i took the highest possible versions one can get from those trinkets

[lofty warren]

Hmm well for me that champ show diff I assume ur using mt dungeon talents?

[fringe mural]

yes

1/4

no jk

😄

4/4 apex with bsv

[lofty warren]

Dont rage bait nim with the 1/4

[fringe mural]

he won't take it

all good

so what i see here is your world boss trinket

is the same for me as the heroic delve trinket

so nowhere as op as you said

[lofty warren]

Ok well maybe its with your specific character stats

[fringe mural]

the heroic vessel is good though, but you need to get it first

[toxic pewter]

is that the trinket u gotta collect crap

[fringe mural]

?

[lofty warren]

Im 277 what ur ilvl grom

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uMXpEkWKe6xMdfvaP11j98

[toxic pewter]

dont u gotta collect souls or something

[fringe mural]

for the vessel?

[toxic pewter]

yea

[fringe mural]

no, it procs off crits

and gives a stackable crit buff

it's basically permanent

[toxic pewter]

wat it called

[fringe mural]

it's a cata timewalk trinket

[lofty warren]

Whats ur ilvl maybe youre closer (or not closer) to bis which is making it give diff results

[fringe mural]

it was top trinket back in cata

drops from ragnaros in champion track

or you get it as hero in the raid quest reward

[vital stirrup]

There is one from nalorakk which you could get during m0 week

On vet fully stacked its like 1.2k crit

[fringe mural]

like all the dps were using it, kinda like alnseer now

agi and str dps that is

[fringe mural]

how do you even compare stuff this way pepega?

you need to fix something

[fringe mural]

and only change one

[daring marlin]

🤔

[vital stirrup]

Yup

Saw a log with like 2 min at max stacks

[lusty grotto]

yeah but it has 0 primary stat

[lofty warren]

Wtb ilvl for @fringe mural

[lusty grotto]

so that might skew sims

it'll be a good contender next season though

[fringe mural]

wtb time to play

[vital stirrup]

Yea looking forward to it

[fringe mural]

i'm at 272, but i have 289 shield and sword

so i'm fine

[lofty warren]

If yr guy is like 200 ilvl I bet all the haste trinkets will sim highest bc you don't get diminishing returns on haste

[fringe mural]

no one gets dr on haste yet

not substantial at least

or do you have 2k haste cold

or 1,5 even

[daring marlin]

This thing is gonna be sick I bet

next season

[lofty warren]

I think 1.3k hasteor so

[vital stirrup]

The crit trinket from murders row also looks OK

[daring marlin]

murder row gonna be huge

[lusty grotto]

murder row also has the best potential defensive trinket next season

[lofty warren]

This reminds me of the tank from skyreach

[lusty grotto]

aka manaheart

[daring marlin]

correct

[toxic pewter]

mastery trinket next season

[daring marlin]

at max ilvl for this season it'd be kinda sick actually

can only imagine next season lmao

[lusty grotto]

yup that one looks great

[lofty warren]

How do stat weight play into your sim results? Since haste always best secondary then wouldnt that mean haste increase would give characters same relative increase regardless of thw "before" levels

[lusty grotto]

haste is not a stat you sim

you just go haste, thats it

[pastel summit]

pepe u think too much

[upbeat plover]

I mean look at that pfp

[lofty warren]

Guy 1 starts with 100 haste and in sim you guve him 10 haste. Sim results increases his dps by 25.

Guy 2 starts with 10000 haste and in sim you guve him 10 haste. Sim results increases his dps by 25.

Assuming nobody has hit secondary caps is this not true?

[toxic pewter]

next patch kings rest coming back

[pastel summit]

ahhh that's another troll dungeon

i was trying to think of what we'd get the other day

like de other side

wonder if they do zulgurub

[lofty warren]

Pls no kings rest

[toxic pewter]

it is done pepega

[lofty warren]

I'd rather do de other size

[fringe mural]

i thought we already settled

on de other side

because bwonsamdi

[toxic pewter]

word on the street is there may even be a new troll dungeon on the new island

[fringe mural]

fucking snakes on a fucking ... island

[toxic pewter]

lmao

Could see thhem bringing back Gundrak

snakes

would fit

[fringe mural]

at the end of the dungeon there's a black dude

[lofty warren]

Kings rest worst subgeon i hope they fully rework it if they are forcing ut

[fringe mural]

called jack samuel

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[fringe mural]

i swear to god

metzen pulled harrison jones off

he can do this

[toxic pewter]

ngl I dont see them bringing back de other side

its too long of a dungeon the ppl dont enjoy the longer ones these days

remember that shit took like 40 minutes or some crap

[fringe mural]

like maisara long ass caverns?

[toxic pewter]

lol

maisara only has 3 bosses

[fringe mural]

i know

it's still very long for 3 bosses

[toxic pewter]

but yeah it does seem on the longer side

i swear de other side took like 45 min or some shit

then u wipe 3/4s of the way through it

maybe im on the long end but def felt long to me

[wicked lantern]

They could close off a different wing every week and it’ll be right in line

[toxic pewter]

not a bad idea but i personally dont see blizz doing that

[lofty warren]

Kings rest 45 min too

[cerulean tusk]

[toxic pewter]

yeah true.. perhaps it wont be chosen

[fringe mural]

yeah that hurt

calling me ilvl 200

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, at a good day, with enough beer inside and with the right light going on

you are like a solid

205

[ivory barn]

De other side... Like 5 people in my guild will quit if that comes back.

I for one liked the place

[fringe mural]

what do they hate about it?

i never played it so

[ivory barn]

Idk I liked it. Prolly just the running and the amount of unavoidable slop

[fringe mural]

that's it

i'm fed up with this bullying

[cerulean tusk]

Only Jakey can stop me

and Jakey aint here

[fringe mural]

okay well

i am going to my friend dundun

he's nice to me

[ivory barn]

Me want me souls bwonsamdi!!

[fringe mural]

i mean sylvanas hinted towards an investigation in the shadowlands

so bwonsamdi would be the link between sl and the trolls

[ivory barn]

Bring back dazaralore raid

[fringe mural]

don't be lazy now ape-mon

we liked that so much my wife and i keep telling that to each other if someone doesn't want to do a chore

in bwonsamdi voice of course

[daring marlin]

It's happening

please look forward to it

[crisp ocean]

is there a way to see what dungeon level drops what amount of crests?

[lusty grotto]

yes google it

[quasi thorn]

is Heavy Repercussions better than Into the Fray?

[lusty grotto]

read the 2nd pin

better is not the right question, you play it because you dont have the haste rating for ITF

[quasi thorn]

OH ok

makes sense

wasnt sure cause i saw the builds in the FAQ had HR

[lusty grotto]

yes well that pick depends on haste rating

[outer willow]

I did a m12 yesterday and got 12

[fringe mural]

weird

i thought 9 give 10, 10 give 12 and 12 gives the maximum amount

[toxic pewter]

I swear I’ve gotten more than 12

But I forget/don’t know how much are given

[outer willow]

Yea I was tipsy when I tanked. I could have gotten 16 but I didn’t want to be wrong about it and get yelled at by nim

[fringe mural]

16 makes the most sense

and +12s yield the highest amount

[autumn heron]

You get 16 on 10s in 99.99% certain, 20 on 12

[balmy narwhal]

Feels bad, I dont get invited to keys cuz there is always a brewmaster that wants to join

#puglife

[ivory barn]

i think tonight I figure these stupid things out

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-stare-the-office-angry-stare-unhappy-gif-7567463

[undone beacon]

New guil pfp

[daring marlin]

:^)

[solid sun]

Plumber stays plumbing

[lusty grotto]

keep on plumbin

[undone beacon]

plumb with the best of em

[hearty sigil]

how much haste is too much haste

[undone beacon]

No such thing

[lusty grotto]

no such number at season 1

[undone beacon]

Gobble that shit up

[hearty sigil]

perfecto ty

[solid sun]

Your water can drain too hastily, did you know that

Goes too fast, it’ll leave solids behind

[undone beacon]

Like clumps of dirt and rocks n shit?

[solid sun]

Like solid waste, buddy

[hearty sigil]

I think he meant poop

[solid sun]

And food

And paper products

[undone beacon]

oh you mean when it’s like installed

Yeah that makes sense

Idk why I defaulted to like, rainwater drainage when the context is plumbing

[solid sun]

That’s a type of plumbing!

[undone beacon]

booyah

[frank bobcat]

Is it worth sitting in queue simulator to get 1% mount or should I just use my precious time in this mortal plane to play other games?

[tribal wharf]

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2049624859882225938

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)

POV: Pathing preventing pet pursuing partner #JustHunterThings

X · Apr 29, 2026, 11:00 PM

only pad part of inviting warlock and hunter

[solid sun]

Feels like that’s only something you can answer

[undone beacon]

Considering you’re literally paying a monthly fee to play the game, do what you enjoy. If you don’t want to be in the pug trenches, play another game and enjoy your time

[solid sun]

If you’re playing tank though

Not sure how much of a queue simulator it is

[tribal wharf]

I need to farm out 12 more mounts

then im pretty much done

[undone beacon]

If you’re not playing brew, a long one

Gets harder and harder to get people to take you, you can list your own key but one deplete and you gotta time it at the lower level to get back up

[frank bobcat]

Weirdly enough I feel kind of bad about them adding new rewards to m+ because it made me realize i dont think I enjoy how finicky & brutal keys get on higher levels, I think im just dealing with fomo lolol

[tribal wharf]

getting into groups gets easier with amount of runs completed, io and ilvl

[undone beacon]

FOMO is a bitch but think about all the mounts and toys and pets you never got, and how little you care unless someone like me brings it up directly

[frank bobcat]

Totally true! It feels pretty bad that ive had this nice streak of getting aotc/legend throughout the world soul saga thus far, but at the same time I think as soon as the season ends I wont care anymore hahaha

Wow does that though! Is what it is, i still love the game

[undone beacon]

It’s the entire draw of an MMORPG. It feels a little worse when you know it’s technically achievable, but it’s important to remember this is supposed to be a game and something we enjoy more than a second job or a dreadful grind

I’ve been playing other games now that the early season hysteria has died down, and knocking out a few push keys and raid a week

Once I get through MOUSE: PI for Hire, imma hit Windrose and be a pirate

[jagged gust]

Is that like Duck Detective?

[deep cove]

This man is spreading misinformation. There is no space for enjoyment in video games. Video games are for mental anguish and self-loathing.

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[ivory barn]

its so damn tiny

[jagged gust]

I've heard that before

[undone beacon]

It’s this really neat first person shooter/detective noire set in a world of rodents, and the whole game uses a very cuphead rubber hose animation style

It’s fun af

And you get to shoot mouse nazis

[ivory barn]

I made these, but trying to do better

[jagged gust]

oohhh okay, I've been seeing ads for that lately, had a duke nukem vibe

but yeah with a cuphead pallete

[undone beacon]

Yeah, it’s been fun. Def worth checking out if you’re into FPS games or noires

[jagged gust]

I dig noire more than shootemup but ill probably give it a try next time i see a steam sale

actually that reminds me i still havent given disco elysium a shot

[undone beacon]

Actually same

Which is wild cuz I’m pretty sure it’s entirely my vibe

Right now my list outside of wow is
-MOUSE: PI
-Lucid Blocks
-Gris

[solid sun]

Windrose

[undone beacon]

Not yet

Soon

[crisp ocean]

on seat the last boss is it normal for everyone to take a lot of dmg?

[lofty warren]

only if you dont pop the purple baloons

[waxen frigate]

Windrose is alright. The combat is incredibly frustrating and clunky

[waxen frigate]

Is a boomer shooter

@tribal wharf style

[ivory barn]

I wish I had more crit

[manic mural]

It can feel like it if your healer doesn't have HoTs.

[jagged gust]

at least your versatility is perfect

[zinc flint]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-kiss-blowing-a-kiss-suspense-christian-bale-gif-16931550113965916217

[ivory barn]

xD i have like 1 piece with vers on it (the gloves)

[lofty warren]

Guy 1 starts with 100 haste and in sim you guve him 10 haste. Sim results increases his dps by 25.

Guy 2 starts with 10000 haste and in sim you guve him 10 haste. Sim results increases his dps by 25.

Assuming nobody has hit secondary caps - should the sim results match what is written above?

[jagged gust]

The old me would waste half their gold changing gems every week to fix that

Something very addictive about min-maxing

[crisp ocean]

is that a dispell?

[hearty sigil]

I feel like people take more damage in the 2nd to last boss on seat. they like collecting the orbs

[still solar]

did parrygod quit playing, just saw that he's not writing the warrior wowhead guide anymore

[hearty sigil]

I think so. I believe everyone here said to use Icyveins

when I had asked I mean

[still solar]

damn, that's rough, he was one of my favorite guide writers, and super helpful in the discord too

[solid sun]

Get good

[sharp gale]

Yes he stopped, current writer is filling the role

[warm plinth]

What happened to the first 56 Happygroinks

[sharp gale]

https://tenor.com/view/oink-piggy-gif-11331137068844485809

#fury saw 67 before it was a thing

[solid sun]

Isn’t 57 like

Heinz ketchup or smth

[frosty mango]

Yes, we broke him

He is now retiredgod

[still solar]

i believe it, think the first time i joined this discord he was in the process of having to explain what backcrits were to a guy in a waycrest lol

kinda a bummer, i learned to tank off his guide, wonder if i should swap back to my warrior this season over it lol

[lofty warren]

hes busy living in german mountains

why raidbots goon for this crit mastery ring

[still solar]

i don't why but i always assumed germany was a prairie nation, didn't know they had mountains lol

[solid sun]

He actually is sunbathing

[lofty warren]

is that legal in gemrany?

[warm plinth]

Nah. Heinz 57 is a steak sauce, not ketchup

[cerulean tusk]

I can confirm, Germany kinda flat. Though, they do get saved by the Alps

[solid sun]

So ketchup for steaks

[warm plinth]

Steak sauce is an abomination

[solid sun]

I agree

[cerulean tusk]

What did you just suggest

Take that back

[solid sun]

It is a tomato based sauce though so kinda like ketchup

Hey I don’t do it!

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, at that point, you can argue everything got water, so is like soup

[solid sun]

I said tomato based

Not just has tomato

[cerulean tusk]

Tomato got water

Water is the main part of soup

So soup

[solid sun]

No it isn’t

What kinda bland soup you making

It has water but that isn’t the main part

[cerulean tusk]

What dry ass soup you eating

[warm plinth]

🤔

[solid sun]

Go back to soup school

[cerulean tusk]

Nah, you eating sawdust and calling it soup

[solid sun]

You must be calling things like chicken stock water

Do you call it chicken flavored water

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, isnt that what it is

[solid sun]

No it’s totally different

Coffee isn’t water

Soda isn’t water

[cerulean tusk]

It is tho

[manic mural]

Rhino is doubling down

[solid sun]

Cat I’m gonna wallop you

[cerulean tusk]

You trying to tell me there is more coffee than water?

If so you crunch it dowb

You do not drink it

[solid sun]

Coffee is bean juice

Which is not water

[cerulean tusk]

Juice is water

[solid sun]

No juice is juice

[manic mural]

The real question:
Is lemonade a juice?

[cerulean tusk]

Lemonade is water

[solid sun]

Lemonade is juice

Orange juice

Not orange water!

[cerulean tusk]

Oranges are water

[manic mural]

Than is lemonade the same thing as lemon juice?

[tribal wharf]

if civvie 11 has played it so have i

thats how that boils down

[solid sun]

Lemonade is juice you drink

Lemon juice is juice you cook with

It’s like wines

[manic mural]

So is lemon juice not a juice?

[solid sun]

Some are for drinking and some are for cooking

[cerulean tusk]

Lemons are 86% water, so water with lemon bits

You know I am right

All is water

[solid sun]

You’re about to be 86% walloped

[cerulean tusk]

So soup

All is watery soup with flavor

[manic mural]

Come on rhino, if lemonade is a juice... What is lemon juice?

[solid sun]

I already told you

Lemonade is a juice you drink. Lemon juice is a juice you cook with. Like wines

[cerulean tusk]

Rhino tries to deny water, ignore him

Too grumpy today

[solid sun]

Some wines are for cooking and some wines are for drinking

Lemonade is closer to wine than it is water

[cerulean tusk]

Wine is water too, btw

By definition of being drunk

[solid sun]

No being drunk makes it a drink

But some people drank things that aren’t meant to be drinks

They may be drunk

[manic mural]

I wish I could be half as confident about anything as Rhino is about everything

[cerulean tusk]

Wine is like 80% water, wine is healthy as soup

Basically grape soup

[solid sun]

Just be confident

It’s easy to do

[cerulean tusk]

Confidently wrong

[solid sun]

Believe you are right and do not be deterred by tricksy catses

[cerulean tusk]

You just mad cause i am right

[solid sun]

Nope I won

[manic mural]

Rhino isn't always right, but he's never wrong

[cerulean tusk]

We are soup, walking soup

Earth is just a giant soup bowl

[lofty warren]

ur just a bunch of atoms

[cerulean tusk]

Is water atoms?

[solid sun]

Cat is a flat souper

[tribal wharf]

civvie 11 the guy i mentioned is akin to the AVGN of pc gaming

[cerulean tusk]

If atoms is water, then atoms is soup

[waxen frigate]

The new Red Bull is pretty good

[cerulean tusk]

New taste that is good?

Go on

I like my energy soup in a can

[waxen frigate]

Lemon lime, heavy on the lime

[crisp ocean]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Q7Da3h1VrMGyndmk?fight=last&source=4&type=casts , still not pressing shield slam enough?

[warm plinth]

Definitely not

[crisp ocean]

am I doing anything wrong then?

[outer willow]

16 crests

Tr1p

there you go

13 = 16

[warm plinth]

Can't do a deep dive atm as I'm not home and wcl sucks on mobile. But this is not a good picture. This is the start of the dungeon

It took you 39 seconds to cast your first shield slam

[crisp ocean]

i was pulling

[warm plinth]

For over 30 seconds?

[crisp ocean]

this is nexus

[undone beacon]

Doesnt matter

[warm plinth]

You should still be doing your rotation properly during pulls unless you have nothing to hit

[dusky canopy]

You cast shield block, then shield charge and then another shield block shortly after and also a ton of ignore pain casts

[crisp ocean]

alright ty

[dusky canopy]

I can tell by that break down you may be a little stressed

[warm plinth]

But again, that's just a snapshot and I can't look deeper on my phone

[crisp ocean]

yeah i was taking a lot of dmg

[warm plinth]

Normally I would give a lot more feedback

[crisp ocean]

whenever I pull stuff, like charge towards a pack I always take a lot of dmg

[crisp ocean]

nws, ty

[crisp ocean]

did you time it?

[outer willow]

yes.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/d9zYtcbnNQvJjKF7?fight=last&type=summary&source=3

Council, pls tell me what I need to improve on

I felt like I was going to die for a good amount of the dungeon

[hollow hill]

colossus feels much less bonk than I remember

[outer willow]

I feel good about this

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/d9zYtcbnNQvJjKF7?fight=last

There's the fullone

[mighty valley]

Demolish has a lower effective cooldown and they put more power into the buff after casting

[winter kraken]

anyone know why algethar's puzzle box sims so high? is it just a me thing? its like 3% higher than any other trinket so im confused why its not listed as BIS

[lusty grotto]

it is listed as bis

in the proper guide

we dont support wowhead anymore

only icy veins

[winter kraken]

hmm.. well damn lol

[lofty warren]

lol my 263 champ track wb trinket sims higher than puzzle box. IMO having burst is useful on burn phases like fire bird in AA or nexus when he pees on everyone

[outer willow]

Who pees

[lofty warren]

in nexus on the right side you want to stand in his pee

but image stopping for 1s to cast puzzle box at the start of dungeon with big pull when you have lust and pot and need to get aggro and defensives up all at ones. impossible

[tribal wharf]

dont go in early

i found that out

[dire rivet]

Is there a spot in this server to try and find people to play with?

[lusty grotto]

this isn't really that kind of server, but feel free to look in #general

[lament osprey]

Nim bad news I failed you

[lusty grotto]

wym

[lament osprey]

I did not spell reflect enough on council fight

[lusty grotto]

oh lol

thats ok lol

[daring marlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738763127910432768/1075030918831550465/ezgif.com-gif-maker_4.gif

a wild nimchip

[lusty grotto]

might need to reinstall the game and im just dreading the idea

getting like negative fps in raids

[daring marlin]

oh god

[sullen palm]

I don’t understand what you mean by before the grave blades ?

[zinc flint]

As a starting out prot tanker what would the brethren of the prot round table give advice on.

[lusty grotto]

read the icy veins guide (and the pins)

[ivory barn]

^

[fickle linden]

any pins on what dungeons I should be rolling my voidcores in?

[outer willow]

Dungeons where you personally need gear from.

[winged zenith]

Imma chill and push my ele main after resi 18 idk why my alt is higher than main

[wicked lantern]

https://discord.gg/wowmadeeasy

[undone beacon]

Maybe I'm a bitch ass ho but I voted for myself and I kept it

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-kiss-blowing-a-kiss-suspense-christian-bale-gif-16931550113965916217

[fallow fern]

what is this "highlight enemy forces when i perform tank role" from Lindormi?

[daring marlin]

grats

[undone beacon]

[outer willow]

Route highlighted for you. Will get you count

[cloud fox]

is TC still a higher priority than Revenge in Colossus?

[lusty grotto]

depends on rage

[cloud fox]

okay, awesome, that clears it up. Thanks a bunch. I was reading info from last year so I was getting confused.

[ivory barn]

It's a nice touch if your new to tanking or need a refresher on a route and don't want to look up a guide

[bright rain]

What ilvl do I need to feel comfy in +12s or +13s?

[wicked lantern]

just send it now and see how it goes

get them reps in

But you should feel comfy around 260 I think? Idk I’m just a civilian

[undone beacon]

Unless you’re horrifically undergeared, gameplay makes a bigger difference. People were doing 10s at 240, 12s at like 250/255. if you wanna be “comfy” the closer to max the better but I’d say it’s super easy to hit 265+ right now

[bright rain]

Alright cool! I am 272 or so. I think I will just send it

[wicked lantern]

GET SOME

[undone beacon]

Oh yeah at 272 you’re more than good

I was doing 12s at 262 lmao

[bright rain]

Haha yea I suck though

Havent played since legion so learning the ropes again

[undone beacon]

Well bring us some logs and we can help you improve!

We’re always happy to help point out issues and how to resolve them

With relatively minor snark, for dramatic effect only

[drowsy comet]

oh yea we love drama

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-bird-explosion-burst-pas-moi-gif-3871740515834623393

[warm plinth]

I winned at pool

I'm a gamer

[undone beacon]

GAMER ALERT

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-breakfast-club-brian-johnson-anthony-michael-hall-cool-sunglasses-gif-11217015902409970737

[fluid widget]

How do yall feel comfortable with the bleed in skyreach

Got absolutely dumpstered on the first pull after 3rd boss, they said I was moving too much

[lusty grotto]

you back off after 3-4 stacks

dont kite all the time

just watch your stacks

then either stun or piercing howl, take 3-5 steps back, the dot stacks reset really fast

[young harbor]

for mythic dragons in voidspire, when have your groups being doing the taunt swap?

[fringe mural]

You prefer piercing howl over intim shout or is it case by case depending on key?

[drowsy comet]

@undone beacon have u seen this transmog, coming in the trading post for May

[sharp rover]

Case by case. As a rule the hard cc of intim is better for stopping casts but everyone and their dog is immune to fear in the current season

In SR piercing howl is better to drop bleed stacks

[fallow depot]

Oh, my talents are wrong...

I should check more often what is being played atm

[jagged pier]

Key intim is great in alot of keys but useless in like pit and half of MC

[jagged pier]

Depends what u are looking at

[fallow depot]

I've been using 1/4 apex.
Checked the pin and murlokio

[drowsy comet]

lmao wth is that

[jagged pier]

Well i would warn against sites like.murlokio or archon and just following because its just data aggregation and most of them just hinestly copy from above and it filters down

But good u read the pins

Not many ppl dp that

[jagged pier]

Its called boost me for free

[drowsy comet]

"Boost me I absolutely suck ass"

[cerulean tusk]

What is funny, is that ppl forget that we cleared 10s in 220 gear

I wont blame ppl for taking 280 ppl, things just gets done faster

Yet many seems to believe you need them to finish in time

[jagged pier]

No we finished it in that ilvl, majority of ppl cant and wont clear them at that ilvl

[compact silo]

when the dps on a +14 takes their slam into the ooze so the boss instantly eats it and wipes you gotta ask them where they got boosted

🤡

[jagged pier]

I was beating dps in 13s yesterday, startong to make me want to push cause weeklies are getting horrible

[restive lagoon]

Any idea on what to fish for with voidcores ?
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/hyjal/Dioxyclap

Maybe rings from Nexus Point ?

[compact silo]

fr

[jagged pier]

U sim and take the dungeons with the most upgrades for you

[cerulean tusk]

My mate tanked 10s as warr with 210 ilvl, smoothest 10s I had in ages actually easier than with his 285 BDK

[drifting basin]

I've started watching a bunch of different "key under X timer" videos and these huge ass pulls are actually blowing my fuckin mind. I have no idea how people are surviving these things.

[jagged pier]

Group play

[drifting basin]

I just watched a 16 MC and first pull was solidly 6 packs. Bears, javelins, flame mask, like everything that I'd normally split into 3 they pulled in one. I'm starting to understand how much I suck xD

[unkempt hazel]

i noticed quite a few ppl in 14-15 range just having zero clue about dungeon mechanics

[drifting basin]

You can find goofballs anywhere man. It's an unfortunate part of the game.

[unkempt hazel]

love going into 15 aa

and watching 3 ppl die to the aoe on that wind guy

[cerulean tusk]

15s is a nice weekly key spot

[unkempt hazel]

brother how

[cerulean tusk]

15 is just high enough that things dont fall over for free, so you got to play the game partly

[unkempt hazel]

then after bird someone always standing in the wyrm lazer

[drifting basin]

I wanna try pushing these big kid keys for a change. I've never done higher than 12's.

[cerulean tusk]

That is on you tho

You aim the beam

[unkempt hazel]

nah

[cerulean tusk]

No, that is how it works

[unkempt hazel]

no

[cerulean tusk]

It targets you

[unkempt hazel]

it doesnt matter if i aim it or not

[drifting basin]

I thought the beam was kinda random after the teleport?

[unkempt hazel]

literally

walk out

[cerulean tusk]

It always targets threat target with beam

[drifting basin]

So after the lizard ports, I need to move so the breath doesn't hit everyone?

[unkempt hazel]

i know how it works

and i say its irrelevant

if I target it bad, dont just stand there like a cretin?

[cerulean tusk]

It aint tho, you can keep everything safe

[unkempt hazel]

its like dreamrift

[drifting basin]

I didn't know that. I'm learnin shit already.

[unkempt hazel]

tank blaming dps

[cerulean tusk]

Consistent is safe

[unkempt hazel]

and dps blaming tank

when both have to work

if adds didnt die, move boss, but also yes stun adds

[compact silo]

dps telling me route is wack

meanwhile dying to mechanics

[drifting basin]

Dream is kinda disappointingly boring as tank honestly.

[unkempt hazel]

true

i more so mean the attitude tho

[cerulean tusk]

I am just worried about the "blame dps", while at the same time you call tank mechanics irrelevant

[unkempt hazel]

like I watch tanks just stand there letting all the ads walk into boss

and be like "dps sucks kill them faster"

[cerulean tusk]

dont be the problem

[unkempt hazel]

or the other way around

[drifting basin]

What ilvl y'all think is good for Myth dream tankin?

[unkempt hazel]

the thing is, I will blame dps if they ignore mechanics

[cerulean tusk]

270+ probs, should feel super safe

[unkempt hazel]

270 super safe

[drifting basin]

Aight, I might try and do that tomorrow then.

Ain't like anything changes for tanks really.

[unkempt hazel]

nope

just stay on your side

is all

[drifting basin]

Ye

[cerulean tusk]

My point is that you dont blame yourself for yours. You call it irrelevant

[unkempt hazel]

I do blame it, but going just "oh lol tank didnt turn it, ig ill just die"

is dumb

especially when its such a nothing mistake on my part

[cerulean tusk]

Consistent play is on you, sure they could work around your mistake

But you need to own it

[unkempt hazel]

i cant be a babysitter all the time

[drifting basin]

Are there any other trash mechs y'all can think of offhand like the lizard aim?

[unkempt hazel]

the orc boss in spire jump maybe?

idk

[cerulean tusk]

Well, dread flais frontals, is the closest one

[unkempt hazel]

oh trash right

[drifting basin]

I know about the charge mech in Seat, I can't really think of anything else that's like, important to note.

[drifting basin]

Talkin about being the furthest out to bait the jump onto me right?

[unkempt hazel]

ya

[drifting basin]

Yeah, learned that one like... Last week

[cerulean tusk]

Would have to sit in front of my pc and look up MDT. All packs become one blurb in my head outside of WoW

[unkempt hazel]

surprisingly not many ppl bother

[drifting basin]

I legit just thought it was random

[unkempt hazel]

another thing is the uhh

channeled fire spam from birds and the spinnies from orcs

both can be just cc'd

yet rarely anyone does

[drifting basin]

Dread flails?

[unkempt hazel]

in nexus

[cerulean tusk]

Purple boys in Nexus

[unkempt hazel]

the lean void dudes

one of the reasons u dont wanna pull the ones on boss into the beam

[drifting basin]

Haven't really noticed them doing anything major. Am I just blind?

[unkempt hazel]

if they still live

[cerulean tusk]

That frontal is on the boss as well, the dps phase one

[wicked lantern]

Fire Dot in Skyreach from the Adepts. Shockwave/piercing shout to kite it at 4ish stacks. You can just backpedal a few steps, it only last a few stacks

[cerulean tusk]

Inti shout is great on those btw

[drifting basin]

I've died to that buff stacking so damn much

[wicked lantern]

Also there’s some mob that knocks you back in the second area, ability is called Void Bash. It wombo combos you with the charge from the champions he pats with. You can spell reflect it to avoid the knock back

[cerulean tusk]

Oh, in Nexus, when you pull heralds. SR the beam, locks the mob out for ages

[drifting basin]

Int shout is actually useful? I figured with all the DMG going out the fears would just insta break

[unkempt hazel]

ngl having to kite is prolly main thing I hate bout tanking

I wanna be a wall damn it

[compact silo]

fr i use inti shout more than howl

[cerulean tusk]

Inti is a really solid follow up stop

[compact silo]

and you still have the howl slow

after

[drifting basin]

I am learning so many things.

[cerulean tusk]

Stack 50% versa and crit, then tank the DoT mobs

[unkempt hazel]

[drifting basin]

I had actually just seen a video about that on Monday. Already forgot. Appreciate the reminder.

[unkempt hazel]

they just gotta stop adding these infinitely stacking things smh

unless they're dispellable

[drifting basin]

I'm go crash before I stay up all night researching shit. Appreciate the quick tips folks.

[unkempt hazel]

sweet dreams

dream of fat spell reflects

[drifting basin]

Guild heading up to h Light blind tomorrow night. Gotta get some sleep before this taunt swap timer madness.

[jagged pier]

U just sr as warrior

U only need to swap 1 boss

[cerulean tusk]

Just bring an aug to dispell

[drifting basin]

You can spell reflect the judgements?

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-sick-ventilator-dying-gif-786943353167798403

[drifting basin]

Or the tank buster?

[jagged pier]

The buster

[unkempt hazel]

oh right

I need to let my co tank know

[jagged pier]

U want bellamy really as hers does damage back

Verdict doesnt

[drifting basin]

So I want to start on Commander so that at the taunt swap I can take General and sr the damage back?

[lament osprey]

Recommend looking up a kill log and copy paste taunt swaps

[jagged pier]

U can start with both, they dont do stuff at the exact same time

It diesnt matter its just u need to lay attention to the one u arent swapoing so u st st the right time

The other one u jist swap as normal

[drowsy comet]

played 1 key on my 250 brew alt that I only havent touched since pre patch basically, and yea absolute braindead how op brew is. Knowing Blizzard they will nerf Brew for 5% lol

what a boring tank anyway

[drifting basin]

Starting with both sounds hella risky. I know there's a 4 second delay on Commanders judgement but that feels like playing with fire in the group I run with

[jagged pier]

Judgement isnt what does the damage

So it doesnt matter if u take both

[drifting basin]

I'm aware, it's the buster immediately after

So basically if I'm understanding right

If I start with both, General always does judgement first right? So general hits judgement, SR the buster, the commander starts his judgement and my OT taunts commander there?

[jagged pier]

Your over thinking it

U will have to tsnk both bosses at some point

Doesnt matter if its the start

But as with swaping both u just have to trust your co tank will taunt the other boss before the tank buster

And u need to be able to jist watch the other boss for judgrment

[drifting basin]

Really wish I could.

Though I don't see any scenario where I'd have to tank both General and Commander that wasn't a panic accident tbh. I'm not so worried about Senn, she doesn't use judgement in h Lightblind. She's kinda just there tbh.

[oak ivy]

she doesnt use judgement on any diff

the only rhing you need to be mindful of about her id that exorcism casts can munch your spell reflect

[lament osprey]

Is this for heroic?

[drifting basin]

Oh shit really? I'd heard you need 3 tanks for Myth and I assumed that was why.

[oak ivy]

Nah thats made up

[drifting basin]

Ye

[drifting basin]

Well shit, aight then.

[oak ivy]

Wish I could help, I have an MRT reminder/note with all the SR timings but it only applies to mythic cus the cast sequences are different

[jagged pier]

I mean i had to tell u it was possible :p

[oak ivy]

truu

my goat

[jagged pier]

U convinced your guild its doable yet?

[drifting basin]

It's all good. I'm only just now learning that it was a thing that you could SR the buster.

[oak ivy]

Yeah had a 0.2% wipe last night i was at 118k 😭

[jagged pier]

[oak ivy]

we killed lightblood too soon and bellamy just got juiced and onetapped everyone

oh well we kill tomorrow

[oak ivy]

I had to go in and set reminders for every single one cuz my brain is small and i would never get that timing perfect without help lmao

[compact silo]

im gonna cry. 15+ ppl dont know they have to stun the territorial dragonhawks

[drowsy comet]

you mean in Windrunners? yea got killed alot there as a healer lol

[compact silo]

yes

[unkempt hazel]

its wicked

[compact silo]

who let these people in here

[wicked lantern]

I still crack up when melee are running around with the damage circle in Nexus

[compact silo]

or seat

[unkempt hazel]

or ignoring the barrels

[drowsy comet]

their "3.5k alt" friend

[compact silo]

all this fatigues me from wow 😩

[wicked lantern]

My ping is on CD guys PLEASE kill it

[unkempt hazel]

had a guy in 14

not know what to do when u get targeted with the hook on that spire boss

[compact silo]

crazy

gives me PTSD. biggest memory i have like that is back in DF in halls of valor. some tank on a +19 kept the valkyrie in the middle of room

[fringe mural]

If it does, go 12 and enjoy other content after myth crest cap and vault cap

Wow is not just keys

[unkempt hazel]

is it not

[fringe mural]

go take a swim

zul aman is nice this time of the year

[compact silo]

well i wanna push keys and get my score up, but my myth+ group dumped me for a brewmaster after i was away only 1 week

[compact silo]

real

[fringe mural]

what kinda ahole group is that

[unkempt hazel]

oof

imagine having a grp