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dusky canopy
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My sim likes berserk

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But I have 1100 Crit xdd

glacial stratus
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xD

dusky canopy
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So that’s why

plush tendon
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I got the Crown neck

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so my haste skyrocketed

outer willow
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I’ve been waiting for this review

dusky canopy
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I got the crown bench

plush tendon
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lame

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I think Warrior might be lowkey sick on Crown

undone beacon
outer willow
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I did this pull. It was insane

plush tendon
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I know in P1 its super meh

dusky canopy
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Got to play arms on it for one night 30 pulls made it to p3 24% and then got benched for the kill roster the next day

plush tendon
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I feel like arms is sick in P3

outer willow
plush tendon
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like, shouldnt arms warrior be sick on the two stacked adds?

dusky canopy
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It’s the only time you can do damage yeah is execute p3

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Zero fucking uptime in p1 and p2 with obelisks

plush tendon
dusky canopy
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It’s dogass

outer willow
plush tendon
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wait, dont you just tank the boss on top of the guy with obelisk?

dusky canopy
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Yes but you have to snipe the purply guys

plush tendon
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ah

dusky canopy
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And if your bait isn’t aligned perfectly you are ranged

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5yd handicap

plush tendon
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gotta use brain power on that

dusky canopy
plush tendon
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we are one of 8 guilds that ran a feral druid on Crown

hollow hill
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Is the 27 armor on blood knights armor kit really better than the extra 115 stamina from forest hunter armor kit?

plush tendon
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that it dont matter

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but armor converts to strength

hollow hill
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ohh yea that is a good point

plush tendon
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but again... its like a super small diff

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what is 100 stam when you got 30k stam

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or 27 armor when you have 5k

hollow hill
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true true

upbeat plover
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Cat

ivory barn
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Is there an easier way to track judgement taunt swaps... sadge

plush tendon
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For Paladins?

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you just have to be aware of whos being targeted by judgement

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and play accordinly

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as a Prot War, we can negate the damage from either SoTR or Templars Verdict with Spell Reflect

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the former doing huge dps

ivory barn
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That's the one boss my brain fries

upbeat plover
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I tanked it on heroic once and that was enough for me. Such an annoying tank fight. As did it with 3 tanks too

ivory barn
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I prefer m+ tanking. What does that pink 4 mean by crown?

undone beacon
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Means you're the 4th highest ranked pwarr on heroic allera right now

ivory barn
jagged pier
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did u get the add on the left at the start?

ivory barn
jagged pier
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that will be way

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forever with loads of smallies and an add with massive damage increase that only u are hitting

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pad city

ivory barn
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I hope that sticks, that's sick

drowsy comet
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i legit crafted a belt, just to loot this ... smh

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god dammit man

ivory barn
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Makes me wish I would've crafted a mythic weapon for more damage now

drowsy comet
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you monster

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who doesnt craft weapon first

unkempt hazel
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myth gaze

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where is it

ivory barn
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X2 arcano

unkempt hazel
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why craft weapon

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just get myth one from first vault

drowsy comet
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nah

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crafted weapons legit BiS till you get myth raid weapons

ivory barn
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I'm gonna craft it next week

undone beacon
naive ravine
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Any myth weapon is better then crafted

unkempt hazel
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I almost suceeded too

ivory barn
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I'd have to drop wrists to add hunt

plush tendon
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whats more crazy... I crafted a shield week 1 fully thinking that the first boss myth shield would drop soon

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low and behold, like 7-8 kills later.... no fucking shield from Imp

toxic pewter
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have u killed it this week yet

ivory barn
plush tendon
toxic pewter
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oof

plush tendon
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we did first 4 of void and chim

toxic pewter
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that some awful luck

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rrrrreeeeeeeeeee

plush tendon
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at least my warrior is juiced

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but still, its crazy that it hasnt dropped

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at least im getting good value from the craft

ivory barn
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How long does it take logs to lock in?

frosty mango
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Depends when they process I think?

ivory barn
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I took a screenshot of it already, but having it legit would be cooler

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This discord got me to this point, only way is to climb higher now 💪

bright rain
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What are my bis trinkets that I can farm from m+? I saw heart of the wind but not a 2nd

jagged pier
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hc raid

upbeat plover
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Yeah most the M+ trinkets pretty bad

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I'm still using the voidstorm rep trinket on brew

plush tendon
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tbf, that voidstorm trinket is very strong

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especially for a free item

ivory barn
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That's not a bad trinket with it kitted out tho

upbeat plover
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Yeah... but I'd love to find a myth chim kill that isn't like have CE from 2 tiers from now required

plush tendon
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Myth Chim pugs are so hit or miss

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its such a piss easy boss....but these pugs man

upbeat plover
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Haven't even gotten into one yet

plush tendon
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some actual mouth breathers

jagged pier
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im just not even bothering

plush tendon
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yea... I tried a couple of times last reset for my DK

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but I may just wait until reclear to bring alts in

jagged pier
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by boost toward end of the season when prices are giga low

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ez

upbeat plover
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Any 1% cutoff chasing gamers?

plush tendon
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I will at some point

ivory barn
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I want 3k, at 2750 rn

plush tendon
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prob after we are done with CE prog

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just dont have the time to really commit

outer willow
plush tendon
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but I may piggyback off a guildies resil XD

upbeat plover
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I entered the 1% for a few days to say I did. And now will wait till closer to end of season and see where it's landing

toxic gyro
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Isn’t 3k like mostly just 12s

plush tendon
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its basically just two chested 12s or some 13s

upbeat plover
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May piggy back off a guy who currently like 3760

plush tendon
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still, the jump from 11 to 12 is pretty big

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losing the affix bonus is huge step

ivory barn
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I have a 12 WR in my bag that I'm kinda scared to list

plush tendon
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youll be fiiiiine

plush tendon
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resil has honestly killed pushing keys for me

toxic gyro
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Yea but 12s with current avg gear lets say 280 are a joke. You can pull pack by pack and still 2 chest.

plush tendon
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cause once you get high enough, its no longer worth to run your own key

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you just find someone with resil of the dungeon you need

ivory barn
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I got dragged into a 12 and was just told "push defensive on CD"

plush tendon
upbeat plover
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I never really pushed before. Was always a 3k and dip gamer

ivory barn
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I need to clean my UI mess up to push more maybe

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This shit be a mess

toxic gyro
upbeat plover
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I'm 2900 mmr in pvp, I'm doing fine

toxic gyro
upbeat plover
proud marlin
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Are prot warrior better as main raid tank or off tank? I may need to flex into tanking for guild runs this week and just curious. Maybe I’m thinking too hard about it

upbeat plover
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Mud just doesn't like pvp chat is actually M+ chat now

toxic gyro
upbeat plover
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He renames me all the time

plush tendon
plush tendon
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tank mechanics are centered around taunt swaps and boss positioning

bright rain
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Have yall noticed it is harder to get into keys this week? I feel like a switch flipped and any brew is getting picked over me

proud marlin
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Thanks hahaha

arctic hearth
plush tendon
ivory barn
plush tendon
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^ thats my experience

bright rain
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This was all 10s

plush tendon
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hmmm

ivory barn
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Then they don't need you okayge

plush tendon
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well depending on your gear and IO maybe a better tank qued

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also depends on what dungeon; some are SUPER popular for bonus roll reasons

bright rain
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  1. My io is low
ivory barn
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What ilvl are you? LETSGOOO

undone beacon
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scroll to the bottom of the list and apply to tankless groups. Those are the desperate ones peepo

bright rain
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I have 5 dungeons ++ timed and havent done the other 3

daring marlin
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I find it amusing seeing 280 people sub 2700 queueing for my 10s.

ivory barn
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Oh, that's plenty push the lower keys up and you'll be fine

arctic hearth
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If you want some real torture try queuing for just about anything over a 15-16 as tank

daring marlin
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on rat alts

upbeat plover
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Set to groups with 0 tanks

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Gg

daring marlin
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getting my 17 resil was cancer

daring marlin
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a wall of delists

plush tendon
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Guil, do you play Dwrf?

bright rain
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Yea maybe it was a bad time of day. It had never happened before

upbeat plover
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Got all 16s and 3 17s

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The 17s were hell

daring marlin
undone beacon
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I got my 17 resil and lowkey im dreading pushing the 18s

upbeat plover
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16s not so bad

undone beacon
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I have an 18 skyreach done and that was a struggle

plush tendon
bright rain
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I was only queuing for seat for my bonus rills

plush tendon
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guess I stay human

daring marlin
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I'm sure 18 resil is gonna be terrible

undone beacon
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The dungeon was fine, getting a group that could do it was not

arctic hearth
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I’m one off resi 18’s had to do that all by listing my key though, if you arnt brew, pugs dont want you

undone beacon
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I'm pushing as a spriest keks

daring marlin
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I will admit pushing as an spriest is prolly worse than ret pally

bright rain
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Are brews that much better than war at 15+?

plush tendon
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bro, Ret paladin is SICK in these dungeons

daring marlin
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I at least give 3% DR, freedom, 1m sac and pretty consistent dps windows

plush tendon
chrome falcon
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hello warriors what me spend bonus rolls on

plush tendon
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theres a meta tank, people think they are only viable option

undone beacon
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5% stam and a PI for grabs is pretty good though, we just lack any kind of useful utility outside of that sadgers

chrome falcon
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me mythic raid what me good trinket? chimaerus and ???

arctic hearth
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There will always be a meta but if def seems like a bigger gap between meta and not than usual

undone beacon
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But spriest damage is solid and consistent

arctic hearth
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For tanks that is

undone beacon
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other than AA first boss

undone beacon
ivory barn
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What's funny about the tank shortage, people are begging me to stay and tank keys

plush tendon
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but I dont think the tank imbalance is anything close to DF S3 VDH

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or end of BFA Prot War

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or SL S3/S4 BDK

ivory barn
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I might just tell guild I'm M+'ing from now on

daring marlin
drowsy comet
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How much vers do you guys go for?

daring marlin
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that was crazy

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you saved so much time doing that

plush tendon
toxic gyro
drowsy comet
plush tendon
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terrible affix

daring marlin
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S4 BFA goated

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awakened best affix ever

plush tendon
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but it was a closer meta in S3 between Brew and Prot War

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still, nothing beats VDH in Dragonflight

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I fucking adored that spec

ivory barn
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Play what you have fun with, fuck meta

plush tendon
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I agree... to a extent

drowsy comet
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meta cringe anyway

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boring

plush tendon
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if you are chasing for .1% title, unless you are a elite one trick, you should meta chase

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anything below that is a play what you want/get good at it angle imo

ivory barn
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I mean, I don't push much but 3k is obtainable on anything I'd think?

plush tendon
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easily

jagged pier
undone beacon
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Just wanna land comfortably in the 1% for the M+ glad mount and call it a day

plush tendon
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1% is easily achievable for every spec

toxic gyro
jagged pier
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i wish i like'd m+ enough to do that

plush tendon
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pushing M+ is such a time sink

undone beacon
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I like M+ more than raid, but I'd prob like raid more if I wasnt an officer keks

plush tendon
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I just dont have the drive anymore

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I find raid to be a lot more fun now

jagged pier
plush tendon
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and makes a lot more sense for my adult schedule

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like I get home at 5, make dinner and relax

jagged pier
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cant wait for them to disengage the systems COPIUM

plush tendon
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then raid from 8-11 and get to bed by 11:30

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if I were doing keys.... yea, we aint going to bed till like 1am

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plus you dont even know what days youll be gaming with lads to get IO

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with raid, you can plan out a week around it

undone beacon
upbeat plover
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Need more gamer dads to sandbag the cut off

undone beacon
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1% mount is gonna be some recolor of the carrion eagle anyways, calling it now

severe star
undone beacon
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They either arent showing it off to:
-Encourage more people to push in case its cool
-Not discourage people from bothering when its mediocre at best

upbeat plover
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Us pvpers memeing it'll be a better version of the glad mount

undone beacon
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what even is the glad mount this season

plush tendon
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PVP is sick

drowsy comet
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blue drake

upbeat plover
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Cool looking proto drake kind of thing

plush tendon
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they got cool red and black versions of the raid weps

upbeat plover
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It's dope

drowsy comet
plush tendon
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Im only 1650 in solo shuffle though

upbeat plover
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But I don't know people for 3s

ivory barn
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I'm guessing I need to push these to 12's for 3k?

plush tendon
upbeat plover
undone beacon
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Hm yeah thats not too shabby

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Too bad I hate pvp

plush tendon
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Its fun

upbeat plover
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Too bad it's limited to 3s and not the playable modes

undone beacon
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I did last season and was miserable

plush tendon
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and shadow seems like fun

upbeat plover
undone beacon
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I got the elite pvp sets for priest and warrior

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but didnt have fun doing it lmao

upbeat plover
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Pvp gets fun after the pain. Trust

undone beacon
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priest was a bit better but i was basically carried in 2s as holy

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At least when i brick a key my IO doesnt go down keks

upbeat plover
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My sanity does tho

upbeat plover
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I gave up my push for now after I spent a day running 17s and only got 2 timed

undone beacon
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the pug hell trenches brother

upbeat plover
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Yeah.. I know Gio

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I'll just have him help me

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Or he runs around here as warrior57

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Think he sticks to the dps chats tho

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Sometimes the pvp chat

undone beacon
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wait for your friends to get their resil 17/18 and then have them run you through those peepo

upbeat plover
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He had had resil 18 or 19 (and some 20s done) when I checked last week

lusty grotto
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you shouldn't have rage issues, spam SS/TB on cd

vocal lintel
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Quick question, if i got myth track wrist should i use them instead of myth crafted embelished wrist slot?

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ilvl > embelishment or embelishment > ilvl

lusty grotto
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i would move the embelishment somewhere else

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
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when you're all myth, you can slap it in cloak/bracer

plush tendon
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I think you just keep using your embellished wrists

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the myth bracers are kind of a dead slot

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and not worth upgrading imo

ivory barn
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I need a mythic bracer so I can craft hunt weap

undone beacon
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You can sim it but because embels are on low-impact slots, its prob not going to be huge. Swapping embel to say, cloak and using myth wrists might net you a .1% increase at best, which is marginal for the investment

plush tendon
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especially if you already have myth crafted bracers

undone beacon
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I rolled myth dragons cloak on my priest but am using embel cloak, ran a bunch of sims and it just wasnt worth moving the embel for +3 ilvl on such a low-value piece

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285->289 wrists is like, 3 secondaries? and 1 mainstat or something

vocal lintel
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Yea already got myth crafted emblish cloak/bracer and just got myth track wrist from voidcore roll was just wondering if it's even worth swapping

undone beacon
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Yeah probably not

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Again, can always sim it to see but its best to leave embels on low impact slots

vocal lintel
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Was leaning towards not changing aswell. Thanks for the input!

lusty grotto
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do you have any hero track slots that you could craft into?

vocal lintel
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Mostly set slots like head, hands and chest. Don't think you can catalyst crafted items, can you?

plush tendon
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whats your current loadout?

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also, are you already myth crest capped?

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Personally, with bonus rolls existing now, I dont think its worth to craft off pieces unless you are just flooded with excess myth crests you cant use

lusty grotto
vocal lintel
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Got the 100 unused myth crests for this week.

plush tendon
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i assume thats a hero wep right

jagged pier
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fucking yes 3rd reroll another piece of shit

plush tendon
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do you myth raid?

jagged pier
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4/6 i could use

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in before dragon games trinket next

vocal lintel
plush tendon
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since you myth raid, I honestly would just save crests

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you got your crafted slots, use crests to upgrade myth pieces natty

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you still got your bonus rolls?

vocal lintel
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Nah used them on seat. Was hoping for weapon, gloves, neck or some other good pieces but got wrists+belt so got screwed over 🙁

plush tendon
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I also dont know how much potential loot youll get in raid

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I assume most gear has already been funneled to dps?

vocal junco
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Anyone having any luck with colossus in keys? I find the lack of the quick AoE thunderblast on avatar a huge QoL loss

ivory barn
vocal lintel
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The guild is pretty chill tbh, don't use loot council. Everyone just rolls if they need, and maybe trade for someone if its really good as honor system.

lusty grotto
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gathering becomes harder

vocal junco
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Yeah I’ve only found success in guild 10-12 keys for fun. Hard to make it work out

ivory barn
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Is there a recommended place to go look up routes?

jagged pier
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w key

plush tendon
ivory barn
lusty grotto
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even more W key

delicate garden
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I tried colossus with full haste verse gear just to see if i can self heal more for nexus and found im just doing 20k more overall dmg as well. No clue how thats happening

plush tendon
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my intuition tells me you are about to get 2 upgrades from raid and youll have to spend all your crests on them

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big Gaze and Heart from Voracious incoming

vocal lintel
open hinge
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Wet Heroic Dream 😩 💦

ivory barn
# lusty grotto even more W key

Buddy said in that key when you feel like you pulled enough pull another pack, and it fucked with my head. I'm like just pull to the end of platform?

lusty grotto
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ive no idea what that means

ivory barn
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In WR they were saying to just pull a platform at a time. It's confusing

proud marlin
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Is 271 ilvl high enough to prog heroic raiding?

lusty grotto
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its not confusing

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just press W to the bosses

lusty grotto
proud marlin
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Ty

drowsy comet
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dafuq

violet elm
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Hi all! One question. Is the Algeth'ar Puzzle Box really so good to priorize it over both Alnseer and Heart? I can get it myth on vault but I have that two trinkets on max hero track. And I don't know well where to put that casting time on my rotation. 😅
Otherwise my choice for myth track vault is the Band of the Triumvirate, not bad, a lot of haste. I'm using it on hero track.

violet elm
# lusty grotto sim

Yeah, sim says is better. But I have my doubts. Mainly because where on the rotation does it fit

lusty grotto
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it does fit

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its a 1:30 cd trinket

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we're a 45s class

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if youre using rage correctly, of course

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but also make sure you understand that you cannot block or parry during the 2s cast

violet elm
lusty grotto
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just to be clear, if you know how to use it, its big dam

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but if youre new

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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its fine to go for the 2nd best

torn narwhal
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Hello, I'm just learning to tank and I'm wondering if there is an add-on to have sound notifications when shield block is about to run out. Or did this die with WeakAuras?

lusty grotto
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coming from a box lover myself HyperRatJam

lusty grotto
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play HR if you do not have the required haste (see pins)

torn narwhal
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Haha I figured, I'll get used to the cooldown manager then

lusty grotto
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you shouldn't have issues maintaining SB with HR

torn narwhal
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Thanks I'll have a look

undone beacon
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You could be able to put sound queues back with CDM addons

cobalt cave
ivory barn
undone beacon
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Pretty sure ArcUI lets you, but I haven’t delved super deep

lusty grotto
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in-game cdm does support sounds, but not at a time interval

lusty grotto
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Do not do this

cobalt cave
lusty grotto
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this is extremely bad

undone beacon
violet elm
torn narwhal
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Hahaha yeah I figured that was a joke but I couldn't put an emote under it. Seems like a surefire way to be rage starved 24/7

drowsy comet
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Guys apparently all the "Lost" weapon transmogs are dirt cheap now on the AH because this abyss fishing is bugged, this was quite pricy and now not even 5k gold lol

cobalt cave
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@torn narwhal im sorry I couldn't help myself

ivory barn
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Arcui is a fun cdm when you spend hours looking at it, but it's confusing as fuck

torn narwhal
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No worries, made me laugh.

lusty grotto
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do you have a confirmation ?

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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screenshot

ivory barn
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Gladly will when I get home for lunch

lusty grotto
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and whats being asked is

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can you make a sound when time left < 5s

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because if you cannot

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that's not whats being asked

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and thats just there by default

wicked stirrup
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Nim just wanted to say again thank you for last night with pally help, and that I also tanked it first time normal/heroic no issues 1st so of course had to call my guild mates trash

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respectfully

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also got myth crests to craft a weapon, 1h or shield? I'm assuming shield

lusty grotto
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this is on the default CDM (but again it only plays sounds on cd fade, there's no time window management)

ivory barn
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Ummm, I'll double check the sounds part

lusty grotto
drowsy comet
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@lusty grotto whats ur opinion on the lindormis glow thing

jagged pier
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called it

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4/8 into 3/7 into a 2/6 chance into a 1/5 chance

drowsy comet
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kickballs

lofty warren
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Wtb good tank audio alerts that are already configured

lusty grotto
solid sun
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What is there to have an opinion on

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You can follow it to 3k pretty easy and it helps tanks route the dungeon by just following the glowy boys

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Seems like an ez win

ivory barn
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I was in a pug being flamed for using that

fringe mural
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you can have a sound when something falls off or procs

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with the standard cdm

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but it has to be one of the 'regular' buffs i think

violet elm
pastel summit
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idk why people can't just walk boss to boss then go back as needed

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sure one of the npcs might flame but who cares they aren't human

jagged pier
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BECAUSE % (sarcasm)

ivory barn
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Going back from last boss is often frowned upon. Like last boss of Nexus I pull 2 adds into

lusty grotto
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people give way too much importance to party chat (or any chat)

daring marlin
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@lusty grotto Jensen keeps carrying that show

lusty grotto
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i havent watched the new one

pastel summit
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worrying about what the lesser lifeforms think is truly crazy

lusty grotto
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but i agree lol

pastel summit
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they should be grateful their 40 minute wait in lfg is over

daring marlin
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Vought Rising is gonna own

ivory barn
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Meh, just pull the whole dungeon and make it a healer problem monkahmm

lusty grotto
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idk about that one guil, seems like theyre just milking the cow but hopefully im surprised, gen v was decent after all

daring marlin
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Aya and Jensen? I'm sure it'll be good!

lusty grotto
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as long as it maintains the tone of the boys and dont go for a more serious/drama approach

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with both their characters

frosty mango
dusty ruin
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Make them walk back 😎

frosty mango
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You wanna handle the route? Maybe you pick up a shield and roll a tank, otherwise quit your bitching

ivory barn
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We time a 10 literally pulling 1 fucking pack at a time

frosty mango
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The goal is not “do big dam”, it’s “time the key”

dusty ruin
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People in 8-12 bracket fail to understand their own class

ivory barn
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Is 1% vers bad for a 12?

frosty mango
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I have zero vers in 16s

cobalt cave
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I got absolutely fucking flamed yesterday for 2% over in AA
Why are people like this

frosty mango
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Not a problem

warm plinth
#

People who check other people's stats are a weird fuckin breed. I would ignore them out of principle.

#

Min max your own fuckin character

frosty mango
#

Can’t help those people

undone beacon
dusty ruin
compact silo
#

is there a list of damaging slows that can be removed in m+?

ivory barn
frosty mango
dusty ruin
#

I guess that is an NA problem 😝

pastel summit
cobalt cave
#

@undone beacon My new riven mod has multishot does that count?

compact silo
lusty grotto
pastel summit
#

ye

frosty mango
#

Hold on

lusty grotto
#

yeah i have a list

ivory barn
#

We did it fam Rank 4 heroic Alleria LETSGOOO

lusty grotto
#

when i get slowed, thats one

#

ez list

cobalt cave
#

Fucking nailed it

frosty mango
cobalt cave
#

BLOODY

compact silo
#

fearless doesnt clear roots right?

lusty grotto
#

more like just stand there, what can we do

cobalt cave
#

ROOOOTS

lusty grotto
ivory barn
#

I'm happy now

compact silo
#

back when Avatar cleared roots...

dusty ruin
#

You mean the before time?

frosty mango
#

A root is technically not a snare because it counts as immobilized and not a slow?

pastel summit
frosty mango
#

I wish blizz would really be clear in their verbiage

pastel summit
#

i still reflexively ava roots

#

annoying

lusty grotto
#

back in my day snares where slows

#

and roots were roots

#

and we played everquest 1

frosty mango
#

Yes but today roots are snares

#

But not always

cerulean tusk
warm plinth
#

Movement-impairing effects is a stupid term for Blizz to use because a root impairs it too smfh

#

But they use it to mean snares

cerulean tusk
#

Movement impairment is one of those terms they should not use sadge

compact silo
#

i mean techincally when you're stunned your movement is impaired too 😛

warm plinth
#

That just emphasizes that it's a dumb term

compact silo
#

and my brain function is impaired when i try to read blizzard descriptions

ivory barn
#

I am grateful to the amount of appreciation and help in this discord

cerulean tusk
#

Just wait till you learn they call roots snares at times

frosty mango
#

And surprisingly, cybersecurity

ivory barn
warm plinth
#

No one is fooled by removing the 57 from the end of his name

frosty mango
#

I’m so confused how parses relate to smoked meats but I’m here for it

lusty grotto
#

but happy has 57 now too

#

im confused as well

drowsy comet
#

or is that ur title

ivory barn
drowsy comet
#

Ohh

#

nice log tho

ivory barn
#

Thanks, super happy now

undone beacon
#

pash57

coarse bay
#

PicMixer57

#

Make it make sense

undone beacon
#

PixMixer57 sounds like a goated tumblr name or something

drowsy comet
undone beacon
#

despite being the way i am, i was not a tumblr kid

#

I spent most of my time in a niche tf2 tagging community

shrewd cosmos
#

Some ppl are swapping to Colossus is that a thing now ?

lusty grotto
#

read the pins

loud rune
#

hallo freunde

dusky canopy
ivory barn
# lusty grotto screenshot

ok, they dont have that section in yet, the only way to do sounds is on the actual initiation or the charge of the spell atm

lusty grotto
#

therefore you were wrong for the question presented

#

and the rat was right yet again

ivory barn
#

yeah, I realize that now, my mistake

#

idk I just use this big ass blue bar for block

daring marlin
loud rune
undone beacon
#

big protein guy i hear

loud rune
#

avg eating 180g of prot a day

daring marlin
loud rune
ivory barn
#

contemplating making that SB bar half and putting IP to the right

loud rune
#

wasnt there some yelling about you dont need to track ip

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

hold up

daring marlin
#

at LEAST

lusty grotto
#

i have a gif for "making an IP bar"

#

there it is

rocky fossil
#

worth upgrading? or maybe craft shield? I don't raid so m+ is my only source

daring marlin
lusty grotto
daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

always

#

every single expansion

#

every single season

#

ilvl > all on shields

rocky fossil
#

so, upgrade?

ivory barn
#

IP isn't THAT bad 😢 its just hilarious

lusty grotto
#

nobody says its bad

south wind
#

On Vanguard, are you just reflecting after the judgement or is there a better case for damage purposes?

jagged pier
#

well as judgement isnt reflectable

#

it doesnt matter

south wind
#

I will rephrase. What is being spell reflected for DPS purposes on that fight?

jagged pier
#

its not a dps purpose

#

its to stop the need to swap

#

it just happens to do loads of damage

#

and ither tank buster can be reflect it just happens SotR reflects cerdict deflects

plush tendon
#

I hate that kid

south wind
#

I was asking because logs don't properly represent what is being reflected. It just says that it happened and to Bellemy.

heavy sparrow
heavy sparrow
warm plinth
jagged pier
#

i literally just said the spell

south wind
#

I didn't say you didn't. I said why I asked...

#

I know now that you can find it in logs which I didn't know

crisp ocean
#

how do you get resilient keys

ivory barn
jagged pier
#

by doing all keys to the same lvl

jagged pier
#

from 12 or above

lusty grotto
#

but yeah SotR is the high damage reflect

rocky fossil
#

silly question, outside of charge / leap, is there any way of getting out of sneers?

jagged pier
#

nope

crisp ocean
lusty grotto
#

a sneer

#

?

jagged pier
#

snare

lusty grotto
#

uhh

jagged pier
#

The answer is nothing

rocky fossil
#

lol, sorry!

jagged pier
#

They removed from avatar and didnt give it back anywheee

lusty grotto
#

im gaslighting myself with slayer

#

"charge and leap remove snares?"

drowsy comet
jagged pier
#

We dont

lusty grotto
#

*let me double check im in the right channel"

jagged pier
ivory barn
drowsy comet
#

i heard some ppl macro IP into SS, yay or nay?

lusty grotto
#

i need to eat, im literally seeing regulars ask stuff that has been said before

valid edge
#

Hey Guys, got two question: Is it possible to bonus roll mult times on a raid boss - Sec Q: I wanna on the other specs. Is there a source? FOr building better m+ groups. Wich class has BR, lust , strong group utilliy , strong deff cd´s and so on - any idea where i can learn?

lusty grotto
#

i dont even know what casting revenge has to do with IP given the big ass wall of text i wrote

plush tendon
#

just not vice versa

ivory barn
#

Anyone have an inspirational enemy name plate I can look at mine are thick

rocky fossil
#

to my wife's detrement, I forget to hit SB, SW AND IP KEKW I don't have 100% uptime on either IP nor SB

manic mural
#

I dont come here often, but when I do. I see nimchip dying on some hill about IP use

lusty grotto
#

dont make me forward the IP wall of text

#

and spam the everliving daylights of this channel

rocky fossil
#

I do prioritise SB, but I miss them falling off...

plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

make sure you have the adequate haste

#

its REALLY hard to drop SB with HR

valid edge
rocky fossil
#

and I made them big too

drowsy comet
plush tendon
#

you can play around with this if you want to see what different classes bring

#

but the best way to learn what other classes do and synergys is to just play

rocky fossil
lusty grotto
rocky fossil
#

yes, because it says so in the pins!

lusty grotto
#

ok just making sure

rocky fossil
#

I'm good at hitting SS on proc / CD

plush tendon
#

naw, Im gonna need you to meet me at Dalaran bank so I can inspect

rocky fossil
#

first time playing warrior after years of playing prot pala + DH with occasional blood, SotR and spikes should be very similar to SB, but it hurts that much more when it drops

lusty grotto
#

fel spikes yes

#

sotr no

plush tendon
#

Shield Block is miles better then either of those

lusty grotto
#

more like staying in consecration

rocky fossil
#

fair, sotr is hard for it to drop

plush tendon
#

a lot of prot war power comes from SB

#

since its such a potent mitagation tool

lusty grotto
#

more like sotr is not as important at consecration

manic mural
#

consecration doesnt do much anymore

lusty grotto
#

i see

#

then i stand corrected

manic mural
#

sotr is the best comparison, just not great

rocky fossil
#

the principle is the same, dnt let the fucker go down

lusty grotto
#

that applies to any active mit

manic mural
#

yeah, the only time sotr can go down though is if you disconnect

rocky fossil
#

I only played these 3, didn't want to make general claim about all

lusty grotto
#

iron fur, bone shield, etc

rocky fossil
#

bone shield takes some skill for it to fall off

lusty grotto
#

my point is uptime

rocky fossil
#

I'm not horrible at it, but every time I miss it it hurts

lusty grotto
#

not whether its easy or not to manage

jagged pier
#

another week no myth wep

lusty grotto
#

and im not so sure about boneshield, its not like you spam marrowrend anyway

undone beacon
plush tendon
#

you kind of forget about boneshield as a BDK

rocky fossil
#

it's an anology, doesn't need to be perfect

plush tendon
#

its a really boring maint buff

dusky canopy
#

Man feels bad my LC gave me a myth 1h sword because no one needed it sadge

jagged pier
dusky canopy
#

I should at least use it once for jakey

jagged pier
#

4/8 -> 3/7 -> 2/6 -> 1/5 chance to get some thing i couldnt use

#

and it hit

#

everytime

undone beacon
#

hey i mean theres a big 4/5 chance you get something giga now next time peepo

jagged pier
#

i now can only get upgrades

#

but i now need to wait another week

undone beacon
#

Oh i see

#

But hey, you're gonna WIN BIG

solid sun
#

Can you see the cows or are they moo far

ivory barn
#

I wish running a specific m+ dungeon worked like raids with the vault pool

lusty grotto
#

jakey

#

does the AA one sim higher than the seat or MT ones for you?

jagged pier
#

Nimchip

jagged pier
#

i dont have myth shield

lofty warren
#

If you want to sim for m+ do you do 5 targets or still do 1 target?

jagged pier
#

i dont have myth wep

#

and 2 tier pieces

lusty grotto
#

ah

jagged pier
#

and thats 50% of the pool

#

yet i didnt hit them

#

at all

lusty grotto
#

just wondering if its better to send the rolls elsewhere for you, but at this point you've taken out so much of the loot pool

jagged pier
#

well i got legs todya because i couldnt not get something to use

jagged pier
#

and 1 good item

lusty grotto
#

yeah unfort

lofty warren
#

Do you sim for raid or m+?

tribal wharf
jagged pier
#

cloak (which i dont need) box (which i already had on myth), ring (kinda an upgrade for arms but i cant send crests on it so not yet), dragon equipment games

#

in that order

#

then legs

#

so i ither just take the extra roll and get the 3 pieces i need next week

#

or potentially i have to wait 2 weeks

tribal wharf
#

leme just check my addons here..

jagged pier
lusty grotto
#

yeah feels super bad in that situation

#

i still havent sent my rolls, but im probably just gonna slap em in seat

lofty warren
#

I did sim for m+ and it said 6/6 champ trinket is better than solarcore prism myrh 6/6 so idk what setting is correct of trying to sim for m+

lusty grotto
#

pepega, at the risk of getting baited into a conversation i dont want to have, the 5t sim is how i personally sim for M+, but if you want to sim for ST to take into consideration boss fights you can just average out results between them

#

im not going to elaborate further on that

lofty warren
#

Ok thx. Champ 6/6 did better than the solar prism in st as well so guess Ill be ignoring prism for this patch

lusty grotto
#

i already explained to you why prism is simming lower

#

its a crit proc

lofty warren
#

You said bc i have lots of crit but beyond that I have no idea

lusty grotto
#

you have too much crit equipped

lofty warren
#

That 6/6 champ trinket gives crit stats so it should suffer from crit dr just like solarflare

lusty grotto
#

ok link me the sim

lusty grotto
#

helm simming higher does not mean the champ trink sims lower than prism

#

it means helm is a better option because its
a. a helm, one of the 3 pieces with biggest stat pools on any character on any class
b. its myth track

#

youre simming for a vault selection

#

if you want to sim Prism vs your champ trinket, then sim only those

#

not with everything else

#

once again: just because the sim selects the HELM does not mean prism loses to champ trinket, its picking other vault options as better gains or bigger upgrades

frosty mango
#

Guys should I go back for ice cream again

lusty grotto
#

yes

frosty mango
#

That settles it

cerulean tusk
heavy sparrow
#

The ice cream man always wins

lusty grotto
#

ok thats disturbing

#

i dont want a frog in my icecream

undone beacon
#

frog isn’t in the ice cream, frog is the ice cream peepo

lusty grotto
#

im going to have to hard pass

frosty mango
#

Ok different question, what do I make for dinner

Grilled Shrimp and kielbasa skewers with candied Brussels and roasted sweet potatoes

Or

Stuffed salmon with capers, turnip mash, and asparagus

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

wait i have a question

lusty grotto
#

does the frog taste like icecream

#

or does the frog tastes like frog with ice cream on top

frosty mango
#

It’s made of ice cream so obviously

undone beacon
#

Yes the frog is ice cream and tastes as such

lusty grotto
#

ok then fuck it, pass revoked

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

will eat peppy the ice cream frog

frosty mango
#

Gotta take beef outta my rotation

#

Cows getting too expensive

lusty grotto
#

too much sea food for my taste

sharp gale
#

Chicken for the W

lusty grotto
#

cow expensive? chicken or pig time

undone beacon
#

I eat rocks and dirt and grass and worms from my yard

#

Sustainable

sharp gale
#

Bear.

lusty grotto
#

tahts a good balanced diet

warm plinth
#

Friendly reminder to go to the gym, ty

lofty warren
lusty grotto
#

you got fiber, from grass
iron (hopefully), from rocks
and multiple nutrients from dirt

ivory barn
#

Is wago the going m+ route site?

warm plinth
#

You're the going m+ route site

#

Gottem

lusty grotto
frosty mango
lofty warren
#

False bc the baseline is qhat curewnt gear is without helm

ivory barn
upbeat plover
warm plinth
#

It's a compliment

frosty mango
#

Dont do it Nim

warm plinth
#

I only gottem positive things

frosty mango
#

You’re being baited

#

Pepega pulled the curtain back a bit too far for a while there he’s gotta course correct

lusty grotto
#

cause i see a prism RIGHT THERE

plush tendon
#

both are fire options

lusty grotto
#

that is all, im done with this

plush tendon
#

I was bad today and bought brisket for dinner tonight

lofty warren
plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

no

#

i am done

jagged pier
#

nim just learn to not talk to him

undone beacon
#

I dont eat shrimp but even just the kielbasa + brussel sprouts / sweet potatoes is a win

jagged pier
#

same with yogi

jagged pier
#

will make your life better

undone beacon
#

Its not kosher sadgers

lusty grotto
#

rat no like seafood

frosty mango
#

How can you live here and not like shrimp. Next thing you’ll say you don’t like crab

lofty warren
#

Well if im wrong about this then that means I was reading sim results wrong the whole time.

plush tendon
#

bonk on both of yall

undone beacon
frosty mango
#

Ah sad times, no fins or scales

undone beacon
#

mmmhm

lusty grotto
#

seafood stinky except clam (chowder) and squid

#

other seafood rat no like

frosty mango
#

That’s the rule right? Has to have fins AND scales?

undone beacon
#

One day Adonai will bless the world with a scaled and finned crab peepo

lusty grotto
#

and/or if it looks like an insect

frosty mango
#

So like dolphins and sharks are no bueno but you can eat a fish

plush tendon
#

Nim just hasnt had good fish

#

smh

lusty grotto
#

oh wait you guys are saying kosher stuff

undone beacon
#

Yeah dolphin and shark are not kosher either though they arent really common dietary items

plush tendon
#

Pash is kosher

frosty mango
#

I believe the we call that Jewish

undone beacon
#

same diff

frosty mango
undone beacon
#

I'm also not a sea creature peepo

#

As far as any of you know at least

plush tendon
frosty mango
#

So

#

If a really big fish ate a small shark

#

And you cooked it

#

Is that kosher?

#

Like a turducken of the sea

plush tendon
#

what If I cook a turkey inside a monk fish?

drowsy comet
#

slowly getting there... still so damn unlucky with rings bruh

undone beacon
#

I... don't know off the top of my head. I would presume its still kosher because the creature itself is kosher, and we're not eating the contents of its stomach but judaism is weird and theres probably some very specific text somewhere about it

frosty mango
lusty grotto
# plush tendon Nim just hasnt had good fish

bro trust, i get gag reflex on just about everything sea food related, i just can't. i get it with even tempura, and that has started some questionable discussions with women lol

upbeat plover
#

Why women...?

lusty grotto
#

"i wanna go to the sushi place!" sadge "try this non fish sushi, it has veggies or meat" sadge

drowsy comet
undone beacon
#

when i was a wee lad i would only eat the chicken tempura sushi rolls

upbeat plover
#

Had a coworker a few months go out for sushi with me cuz she heard I never really had it

#

Was pretty good

undone beacon
#

I love california rolls but i gotta always check if they are using actual crab or the imitation crab thats just whitefish

plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

im sure its delicious, but rat cant do it it feelsbadman

toxic pewter
#

sushi GROSS

upbeat plover
#

You try raw beef at a Korean BBQ place? Was pretty good too

lusty grotto
#

of course

#

those are bis

plush tendon
#

raw beef is fine; I like my beef prepared how the chef thinks it should be done

#

if its high quality beef, rarer the better

lusty grotto
#

anything a korean bbq serves me is bis

#

unless its seafood

plush tendon
#

actually baffled

#

but Ill refraim

#

my childhood meal was baked haddock

#

😋

drowsy comet
upbeat plover
#

I figured it wouldn't be good. I was wrong

plush tendon
drowsy comet
#

oh lmao

#

then say little kid

#

smh

plush tendon
#

wee lad is cuter

#

and adds spisaze

undone beacon
#

exactly

#

Gotta speak with some whimsey

plush tendon
lofty warren
lusty grotto
#

when i was a wee lad i enjoyed the fellers on sesame street, they were swell

#

and the ninja tortoises

lofty warren
#

And the time i set to 1.5 min, believe you said thay is correct time for pwar sim

undone beacon
#

im in a working session and all my coworkers are talking about ninja turtles

#

wtf

lusty grotto
#

wait what

plush tendon
undone beacon
#

Freaking out bro what even

#

That was a weird coincidence

dusky canopy
#

Balls are heavy knees deep in moms spaghetti
Or whatever slim said

undone beacon
#

Are you on this XSIAM automation working session Nim

lusty grotto
#

i was gonna say im in a meeting too

#

but we're not talking about ninja turtles

undone beacon
#

We're waiting on our professional services guy to load new playbooks so they're just shooting the shit

lofty warren
#

Playbook do you work for an NFL team?

fringe mural
lusty grotto
undone beacon
ivory barn
#

10m of work
50m of bs

tribal wharf
undone beacon
#

try 120m of watching an engineer move stuff around in a medicore gui and pray things work

lusty grotto
#

nothing makes me angrier that having a meeting to watch someone else work

#

it boils my blood

lusty grotto
#

my pressure goes nuclear

fringe mural
#

but he's importanter

undone beacon
#

Yeah theres not really much of a collaborative experience here. One guy is setting up the playbook and 9 others are nostalgia tripping

lofty warren
#

Why would you watch someone move thinga around? In a demo?

undone beacon
#

However, work from home means im at my pc playing MOUSE PI

#

blessed be

fringe mural
#

luckily i don't have a lot of meetings, i do need to have talks with a lot of parents

lusty grotto
#

managers are notorious for this

fringe mural
#

which is worse

undone beacon
#

lowkey im just sitting in because it sets my teams status to "in a meeting" so people dont bother me with stupider shit than this

winged zenith
#

How are we dealing with 4 defenders in nexus? Believe in our healer?

undone beacon
drowsy comet
#

Aggressively ping the enemy and yell for heal

lofty warren
#

To sim pwar should the duration be 5 minutes or 1.5 min?

valid violet
#

Guys quick question is the Puzzle box worth it as a trinket?

I saw that it's in A tier in the guides but still has a cast time which is kinda cringe.

lusty grotto
#

its pretty massive yes, but you need to know how to use it

#

the icy veins guide has an explanation

#

if you cannot use it correctly, go for the 2nd best in sims, jelly is dogshit

cerulean tusk
#

sadge u just jelly

lusty grotto
#

of the 49g? sure

lofty warren
#

5 tar 5 min ==> solarflare prism shows dps loss

Repeated for 1 tar 5 min and it did show that replacing the 6/6 champ with solarflare increased dps by 0.1% which is basically nothing imo

cerulean tusk
#

I will make jelly work

#

watch me

lusty grotto
#

do you still not get it?

lofty warren
#

Over and over

lusty grotto
#

pepega, can you pick BOTH Helm and Prism from the vault?

lusty grotto
#

it does not take a wall of text

#

answer the question

lofty warren
#

I can only pick helm and I already picked it. I was trying to figure out reason for something that is 289 ilvl to be about the same in st and worse in aoe compared to a 267. Both trinkets are crit (one flat and one proc) but still i would imagine 289

lusty grotto
#

can you pick BOTH myth helm and myth prism from the vault

#

yes or no aanswer

#

if its showing up, you either (1) have not picked it or, (2) have not equipped it

#

stop fucking posting sims when its comparing PRISM VS MYTH HELM

#

it has nothing to do with your champ trinket

#

do you get it now?

compact silo
#

seat ring set or xenas ring set?

plush tendon
#

the amount of brain power used on this question is insane

plush tendon
#

seat cantrip is meh

#

at best

undone beacon
#

seat rings is just avoidance, which is pretty worthless for tanks

lofty warren
#

Can I ask this? If you get helm and trinket options in your vault do you run 2 separate sims to only compare upgrade for helm and upgrade for trinket?

lusty grotto
#

i literally have answered you this question already like 5 times

#

the sim gives you the item that will yield bigger output, better dps

#

thats the item you pick from the vault

plush tendon
#

^ thats how you do it

lusty grotto
#

why would you fucking ever do two different sims

#

im not sure why this is so hard to understand

#

do i have to try in another language or something?

#

the. biggest. upgrade. is. the. myth. helm. that. is. what. your. sims. show.

fringe mural
#

maybe he just uses his loadout and the new item

#

and then his loadout and the other item

#

but apparently there's an option on the page to compare two item upgrades with another right away

#

which he doesn't know how to use?

jagged pier
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perfect comps dont exsist

lofty warren
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Ok you get helm and trinket in your vault. You go to simc and paste your profile. In simc you select BOTH your possible helm upgrade and your possible trinket upgrade and then you run sim.

Sim results show:
Row1: dps increase with helm
Row2: current gear without any upgrades
Row3: dps decrease with only the trinket option (this row shows current gear with trinket swapped only)

Ofc in the vault you can only pick one and in the sim i assume I can select all upgrade possibilities.

Based on these results, ofc i know to pick helm since its an increase.

Is it a true statement that given the sim results, the trinket is not worth getting since it is below currently equipped gear?

fringe mural
jagged pier
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5 tonkers

upbeat plover
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How to fix the no one wants to tank problem:

Make 5 tanks the meta comp
warriorbrain

plush tendon
jagged pier
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it was only a 12 but it was pretty fun

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only problem is bosses