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I will do a season with full mastery prot
nah
with rerolls
im opening as arms
cause ill get myth shield and wep with rerolls
i got mine last week on rerolls so thats a good point
yer but u would at least have more haste
I'm opening as prot
but i dont need a 2h
Cause I have myth 2h already
Yeah not this season tho bc my fury gear is too similar to my prot gear it’s not even mastery maxing
bc special jewelry
This is more like an exploit not a cool trick tbh
Either way I’m not dropping pools tho!

I like vault screenshots
should i roll as prot for the chance to get solar core igniter if i already have shield and 1h?
im not super excited about the ring, or shield options
I just need a trinket
You came to the right place
Im on multiple casual guild discords only to spy on their vaults
Today's the day i am envious of the us folks
because i need to wait until tomorrow for my vault
hey all, new to prot war, do we open on a different spec?
...again
worst vault i think i ever got
I got an indestruible shield
only if you don't need defensive trinket, weapon or shield
Nice
You already have the neck apb ?
tyty
Welcome to the club
but I already have a maxxed myth sheild
no thats what i am gonna take not awful
do u think i take the extra bonus rolls over neck?
And no vault is awful since you can pick the gamble token
Well are you rich?
would u take gamble token or that neck
because an indestructible shield is nice af
On what would use that token, if it’s to roll in pit… for the neck…
and upgrading it won't cost you anything anymore
lol yah I will jsut take this neck
Or if you roll in pit for the ring, you might take the token
I want a 1h weapon
Bc you will get the neck anyway
So question, i keep seeing people talk about solarcore, it obv is a tank trinket but doesnt sim "as high" as others, is it just the best defensive alternative?
which i get, ty i just wanted to verify the thought process
Dragons trinket is the only one better right? I’m using solar core when I tank bc I will never get the raid one
if its a myth shield then its a no brainer regardless
sorry worded poorly
Indestructible Shield or Belt
1
1
1
I have maxed Shield that is BIS will do it for funsies
lmao huge poll gaming
id drop to a hero shield for indestructible idc
Then go for myth belt
What are the choices
myth belt or indestructible shield
For once I ask, post the vault
Myth belt or the token
Does the indestructible shield protect us from backshots? ENHANCE 🤣🤣
@lusty grotto
But honestly I’d say indestructible shield is much rarer than a belt

Mythic shield or mythic solar core igniter?
Guys I’m going through an identity crisis
Do chimaerus before deciding
You are a rhino
Declare urself as therian
Do you guys craft belt or go for a dungeon belt?
I’m gonna be the odd one out probably but an indestructible shield will save you so much gold, versus a myth belt you can roll in M+
before nIm shows up pls gimme an answer hes gonna bully me again 
Last week I did a bad move on my vault+ crests
No u
We don’t need vaults now we got voidcores
not too shabby all myth slots are upgrades
neck versa could be nice OR myth one hander (currently have 285 crafted weapon)
wonder what my sims are gonna say 🤔
We do need Vaults, how else am I gonna get my Gaze
By going chimaerus
I bonus rolled in nexus point -> picked the boots over ring with avoidance, and I did the mistake to craft before reclear
The same way everyone else does.
Join a mythic pug, die 10 seconds in and parse a 0, then roll 100 on it when it drops
tho on my warrior I got champ gaze last week 
why not spend the useless veteran crests
oh no that stupid box again

Please don’t do this
Why you gonna make me choose between shield and solar core?
i ended up taking it and i hate it but its getting better with time LOL
My monk has better trinkets
monk stinks
but im also swapping from either hero gaze or hero heart haha
And I will get gaze in my vault tomorrow
hero gaze hero heart is all I want then Im happy lmao
I have hero heart and myth puzzle box
if you get gaze in your vault imma stop bullying you for being french, I stand with my word
On the W monk
LOL then the sims of myth box will eat away at your head hahahaha
1/12 chance it’s in my raid slot
well, myth heart I can see myself getting. But idk about myth gaze, maybe maybe idk
I believe
i did nothing on my pwarr this week cuz I was busy healing smh, will blow a couple of keys before EU reset then yea..going for HC raids tomorrow
I will do hc chima now just to have it in heroic
You can get any m trinket you want if you set your mind to it
Will people take you myth chim if you have aotc achievement?
does myth chim get any new moves btw?
You have raid separated in two bc touch = death
sheeeeeeesh
2 ppl job is to go on 2 marker when 2 ppl gets a circle
do i take hero neck or myth gloves
And intermission is where wipes happen
You take alleria neck
Touching people in the other phase kills both of you, rift madness needs people in the other realm to soak and save, half the raid is phased during intermission and has their own adds to kill, fears cast much faster
Dafuq

at first I thought something WAY differently, until I read the last part
Awwwww yiss
gz!
i am disgusted
It’s the same fight for the tank, you just stay on your side
oh no lmao
i mean its huge for arms/fury so
i'm so happy for you pash
Hey gang, does the reroll loot system work like --
If you have myth chest from vault, and you reroll on Chim, can you get the myth chest token?
I'm under the impression the reroll system doesn't give a shit what you have and will reward you whatever you get and each item is slashed off the loot table afterwards
And 4th add phase one of the tank sacrifices himself
we are in the same boat, i'm taking coins i guess
Vault doesnt count for rerolls, so yes
When you roll, that item is taken off the table. Thats the only way
Gotcha. ty
yarp
just more HP and damage ig, then maybe myth gaze is possible 🤔 4 myth bosses per week would be dope
It's just three items right?
yeah
If you could do only 2, chima and imperator, you have more chance to have gaze in your vault
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g5SdjT9FvLr4euXVARLLSu
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dA7VuasNgnp476thLGccYg
damn not the hero neck simming better than all my myth items...
Why does this game keep giving me fucking cloaks bro
Saladbar is more gamble with pugs but it’s still simple
The problem is the loot will then be taken off the entire voidspire loot table
Plus chim
No it’s only bosses you already killed once
chim is basically the boss after alleria in that system
No it's not
hows that?
i need a weapon, and there is a weapon in my vault...
but since i'm using rolls in terrace might be better to just get an extra roll
Do i just take myth neck anyway
Im on alleria, its been 6 weeks i have raid myth vaults
this new roll thing makes thing so confusing
do you only get loot in vault of the raid bosses you killed?
your raid vault only offers loot from bosses you;ve killed once
At the beginning of the season killing Chim was unlocking all of voidspire for loot, they might have fixed that though
Only 2 bosses you unlocked the lootable on your vault
once you kill it, it's always in the pool though
per week?
perma
hm i see
Yes it’s permanent if you kill it once
erm
hm I never did marsh on my pwarr, so that gives me better chances 
You already killed myth bosses ?
well i got told this is how it works for all difficulty levels and tested it for lower difficulty
also blizzard states this is how it works
So you whatever 2 myth bosses you kill, they are the only ones that can drop in your first raid vault slot
big arms choice, help me brewjj
That boss and prior bosses iirc
so you could get like soulhunter boots if you only killed fract
Yeah prior but Chima is separated raid
Chima counts as voidcore tier but boss after alleria
And imperator is the first
is it different for myth?
Ohh thats big then
where does it state that it's different for myth
and I still got 2 rolls lol
You don’t get vault loot from bosses you didn’t kill

@lusty grotto
If you got dragon heroic loot, it’s just bc you killed dragons in heroic and filled your second slot
screw puzzle box
okay yso
do i take cloak
Or
Do i take tokens
and gamble for mainhand
pretty shit cloak too
you do
source is wowhead
What’s that pretty purple gem.
Yes did you kill dragons in myth or bosses after ?
Which are : paladins and alleria myth
no, i killed imperator and chimaerus on a lower difficulty, and got loot in the vault from dragons
in my vault slot
i never killed dragons
ever
Bc you killed dragons heroic before
never

on any difficulty
Is it the same waste of time as last time where you got a raid item from a random box
Love it
ummmm, what should i use
careful now, i sent @solid sun the screens, he can confirm
puzzle box and...?

You can send the screen
i was just mixing up quests
heart of wind?
Did raidbots get upgraded? Or am I missing something with my sim? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xyVhu1eL6EKMACvBRXw7VY
the assumption was still right, you could acquire heroic loot from a quest
I know its an arms sim, but the time it took to run the sim was 10 seconds, and there was no queue
The assumption was you got the alleria from your vault without killing her
So your assumption was false
Not even mad
no i never said it was from the vault, i thought it was from a delve, because i opened the chest in a delve
Bonus Rolls fo all
i just forgot to open it after turning the quest in
and opened it with all the other stuff at the end of the delve
the main assumption was you can get loot from any boss without killing it through another means
and this is true up to heroic
just not for myth
because you don't get a weekly quest that rewards a myth chest
during the dungeon event the weekly rewarded heroic gear, even from l'ura
for people who haven't seen her at all
the cache of quel'thalas treasures
Time to waste 2 more rolls in Nexus
i got one of the two rings
I got ring and legs last week
Odds looking great today
Do I have to do 3 bosses again for the rolls?
I have void, need light
still waiting that screen of myth dragon loot in your vault
Same same
Muleyo UI?
I don’t think I even want a raid item
Unless it’s a helm or something for crest saver
Nope, I made my own
ur own UI? what is it called
Well made my own is a little much maybe, but it's a couple addons and a few hours of tweaks
ahh okay
massive difference
much better
I know it's fury, but same areas for prot
I used to use streamer UI's till things broke
@lusty grotto what are the odds that I get seat gloves in vault and bonus roll a ring
If I bonus roll the other ring or have it in vault this week I can farm Pit neck
Oh god thats alot going on in your screen
100% mine
is there an easy way in skyreach to time the golems beam thing in the room with the second boss

KiraUI a lil bit modified 
See I got yelled at for having action bars and the CDM spells showing twice
from who lol
i never killed any myth boss as i told you, i tried to test what wowhead said in lfr on alts
i still have it shown but basically dont look at them at all, feels right seeingthem lmao
what happens when u bonus roll with the bag full?
My gm/RL 
pash saw an lbv ring drop in a vault of a guy who downed the first two myth bosses of voidspire and chimaerus iirc
I would assume postmaster
bro's missing the forest for the trees
Does he tell you to turn off meters too?
Having it twice is fine, as long as it is out of the way
too much screen clutter
Man I made a nice pic to ask for vault advice in spirest land and nobody has helped me, why are people so mean to me smh
See this, this is fine to me too
oh damage numbers too
mailed ig
not bad... it was nice rolling before vault, i would have gotten 2 weapons
Did you happen to send a picture and your raid leader saw it
I want my nameplate battletext back 
No, but there was a talk about it at one point
Or is he micromanaging everyone’s ui
What the hell is wrong with him xd
We used to raid mythic and they want an aotc week 2 minimum. I think that's what wrong LOL
think imma craft a belt, only thing i think worth, cloak already crafted
too bad i dont have crests ;/
How does micromanaging someones ui help tho
As long as it is not actively bad
Less for brain to stare at the better I 🤔
When weakauras existed I had an aura that covered meters in combat
Bruh. Not recount 😭
its better for pvp isnt it
No
That is elemental shaman
lava blast
Thunderstorm
Retail wrath ui
Looks like wrath resto shammy 
Its a meme
Cant be
guide says crit/mastry shieldl from MT is bis. any reason why other shield arent better like the crit/vers one?
Comes down to simming youself
i think blizzard with the current customizable ui
BIS lists are fake
ah ok
should help make it so these uis cant really happen
I knew it
is this any good?
No
1min30 Impeding victory
i think it is every target
you would need clown scenarios to get some max healing scenario out of it
That thing SUCKS

grabs the whole dungeon for a test drive

elaborate
Ghash is gonna run a marathon and we're all gonna join him ofc
very cool
Is a 289 weapon better then the crafted one with hunt?
Yes
Any reason it sims lower in damage?
Did you add an embel to another piece
not yet
Thats why
You're simming losing an embel for the weapon when in reality you'll be crafting an embel onto another slot and gaining the weapon
Is it worth spending the crests on another embelished piece then?
Yes
Cloak/Wrists tend to be where we want to slap an embel as they are low-impact stat slots
Throw an arcanoweave on wrists/cloak and you're gaming
My prot set is wrists/shield, cause fury was weapon/wrist 
damn
This week
ok, i have 1 spark now and should get another tomorrow then
You get spark every week, so yeah
Weapons or Shield if they arent myth, otherwise whatever sims best
so is monk that tankier than us?
Both my pwar and brew are 3.2k and I've just been doing 8 dung per toon. In my exp pwar is more tanks but brew does like 20k more dps
But it also varies how useful dodge is like on the skyreach birds that bleed you as a brew you dont really care bc ur gonna dodge and reset but as pwar you better watch it or die fast
Yer is played correctly
Always has been
true, silly drunkards
Self healing is fine but there are times as brew (especially on big pulls openers) where you go from half hp to 0 and ur stagger isnt even that high
Usually when lots of mobs hit you all at once
at least in a M+ setting this season, Brew is tankier then Prot War
but in raid Prot War is the tankiest tank
just going off % of deaths in Mythic
Ok well I must be using either the wrong talents or wrong play bc as brew I feel way squishier.. for talents im juat using the icyveins sp recommended
hmmmm, are they using 1/4 for all those deaths?

As pwar using bsv talents i have the confidence to do bigger pulls and even did lots of 15 Mc today with dps stance on
XD I hope not
Probably majority based of the stats
Be a funny correlation....!!!!
but thats where the tank balance conversation gets weird; cause to me Brew is completely useless in raid except for mystic touch but great in M+
whereas tanks like War, DK, Bear, heck even Pal to a extent have a real place in a raid comp
Brew is there due to high damage and good self healjng. If pwar did the same damage as brew it would be a pwar season 100%
once again, some people really dont know shit in this game...
joined a +10 WS, ppl didnt know the Duo boss, failed the hook 2 times, wiped.
Tried again, with lust, all DPS and healer ded again, this Shaman legit trolled and acted like a child, well insta deplete lmao
lmao
See here in archon brew doing ~88k dps and pwar 78k. Put as a percent that means brew has 13% more dps than pwar.
fuck meta specs
because these players push the really high keys
99% of all the players dont
so metas are nonsense bait
Metas do exist
But monk is not the preffered tank cuz he is dealing tons of dmg
he just survives stuff
Why do you think meta is nonsense bait
ask @undone beacon 10s are the trenches now
Majority most likely
after 17s I think
its absolute cancer sometimes
There is atleast one log in that statistic that runs it
+10 "relaxed" 
Yall be playing with some wild characters
i have crafted shield max. i got bulwark of noble resolve mythic in vault. is that prio due to 4 ilvl increase?
I am very glad that i dont need to pug keys
thats the issue with "easy" season, all the casuals get to 10s and above and thats also why the depletion ratio is like 1:3 or so, saw something like that in a graph a week ago
12s should be fine? 
Yes
But u can always reroll a shield 
but block is block
I wish
Vault now gets messy cause of rerolls
12s are fine yeah
Like i have no reason to open as port as ill get 1hander and shield from rerolls can also ignore chest and legs
On reset day
DUDE IT DOES OH MY GOD
i wonder if I can even get the 3rd bonus roll while not having done anything in the week...
i did one today
I SORTA HATE IT
agreed
I'd like rerolling more if I raided actually
I think you need 3 slots to get enough for w bonus roll
time to do one MoP TW dungeon to stay on the safe side xd
Maybe y’all are just using too much brain juice
i mean compared to before you only get one myth piece if you stick to m+
hell no I just fuckin' full send
Send the vault on the best item available and reroll as you do dungos
Heck yeah Guil just full send
We ain’t wizards here

Shhh stop yelling
Who yelling
Guil is pumped he gotta yell
Guil still feeling the effects of the preworkout energy spike
What is the correct decision if your vault sucks? Take bonus rolls or socket?
rerolls are awesome
super easy way to gear alts now
stack up a bunch of rerolls and get lots of myth I level
Hello guys, at high keys 18-20, the stats prio continue to be crit>haste>mast>vers ?
I have 30% haste and 27% crit
correct
vers is the worst ?
though this set of hyperextensions had me on the floor after
haste is always first
and then its sim
Ok
on wowhead it said haste>vers
Haste is your best stat for survivability
we dont recommend the wowhead guide
as we dont know the guidewriter
All stats have defensive value
but Mwahi does the Icy Veins one
i’ll check it out then
Haste > vers = crit is all you need to know
haste is default bis because it's cool also
haste is good cause it means more globals, better SB uptime, more rage, more cds, more fun
crit gives us damage and parry, which is awesome for mitagating melee damage and for the chance of negating dot/bleed applications
vers is just flat damage and DR that works on everything, but it scales slowly (every 1% of vers is only .5% dr... you really cant get that much to make it meaningful, but it shouldnt be avoided)
and mastery is attack power and increased crit block chance; generally the least useful, but could be good if its super low
And we sim because we value doing more damage because things die faster and all stats have defensive value so whatever you get in addition to haste is going to help you live
^ exactly
While preaching that gameplay is where the vast majority of your survivability rests
ahh yes shit vault, grabbing gloves
Yall getting me all fired up
I'd categorize a shit vault as being a vault the same item slot multiple times
made me 280 fury tho
Well GGs is weird
Because they let their raid leader determine what they play and it changes like every hour it seems
So who knows what they need in their vault
I immediately took gloves, sim is better 🙂
Stupid question time
Send it
Yuh
technically a ravager is active
Yes
ok cool
Whirling Blade just procs Ravagers, it’s the same ability just random proc instead of on cast
right, its what ive been using I was just browsin around and was curious
Yessir
time to go be sad after work with 2 more cores into Nexus
Why are you sad
is this that 298 quest I'm guessing?
Yes
yes
Hah beat you to it
I could never
trying to get teh light ring on mythic
That’s what I took from my vault 
going to go see if my new rogue got it lol
My rolls are tied up for the next 1-3 weeks anyways with dragons reclears so
What is reccomended drop for bsv?
u gotta smoke something to call this shit
Bloodsurge or EA
Ea?
kinda interesting that Colossus is dealing this much more damage than MT
Enduring Alacrity
Ok ty 🙂
it was more due to the fact that light ring wasn't in there but either myth track slot was better 🙂
i see
my fucking rogue the first 10 I do week 1 is a myth dagger LOL
My shitass one dungeon slot a week hunter has rolled bis items every week
Pulled a bis weapon today
I’m sitting on like 5 myth 1/6 pieces from vault cuz I haven’t farmed crests on him 
got both skyreach trinkets today win for rolls
I’m just waiting to hit 285 on priest so I can get crest discount on alts before I spend myth on them
smart, per usual
same
why we so smart
I think ill be able to hit 285 this reset
^
but I keep pulling mythic tier from vault at least
I reeeeeally hope i can rip a Vaelgors off of dragons this week
or itll be close; just gotta hope for a good reclear and vault
then i can free up future bonus rolls for NPX
I hope you do too cutiepie

Idk dont trust very small amount of col parses and the key level is lower
true
hungry
Anybody play with Ampoule? Does it actually heal you much?
It is very lackluster compared to other options
thx
Hallo
Sup
pash did you get your mc chicken yday
I skipped dinner 
I didnt realize how late it was and then i just went to bed
is the wow movie worth to watch
36g protein at least
better 36 than nun
anyone blasting colossus in 17/18's ? how does it feel
our menu is a lil different here
we also dont have the quarterpounder etc
Also that sandwich is like 700+ calories
A mcchicken is 350ish
mcchicken looks sad compared to the crisp
It is lolp
do you mean like this?
make sure youre also playing frothing on the class tree if youre dropping bloodsurge or your rage intake will suffer
also that build is kinda meh for anything under 18+
the only valid proteincalorie thing to get at mcd imo is 20 piece nuggets and then only with ketchup as dip, 1000kcal at 54g protein, but then again no one goes to mcdonalds to eat clean
How come meh under 18?
I go to mcd's when I wanna eat like an asshole
because your threat will suffer due to lower dps
and nothing there will make a difference
except for BSV
and ive ran BSV only swaps without the build he posted up to 17s without issues
if you want a crutch, BSV is more than enough
last stand and indom are unnecessary
oh fuck that explains when i tested some high key build why i sometimes started to lose threat
Just wondering cause i wanna swap build cause i seen my parse was low. But also im scared of die xD going into 16s atm
just do EA into BSV
that's more than enough
indom wont save you
LS is just 🤷♂️ and will reinforce bad habits such as using wall as a reaction instead of how it should be used
Anyone else notice a bug where you don't get the option for using voidcores after reset on anything?
pop a health pot instead, its free and not worth any talent points
I didn't get the pop-up to spend my voidcores (I have 3) after mythic Chimmy kill. I used 2 last week on same boss.
free as in completely off-gcd
so for 16+: icy veins build with bsv over enduring alacrity?
for anything under 18
that number will be higher this week
because our ilvl goes up
open your currency window
well that sucks
weird
maybe its an addon display issue occurring or something
sucks tho cant kill again this week
make sure its not an addon and pop a CS request, if you get an "unfortunately we can't help you", keep making them
Taking bsv only has you give up a relatively small % of ur dps
Imo i have bsv and when I am not taking lots of damage I turn on dpa stance. Dunno how correct that is
thats fine, as long as you remember to swap back
but its a minor optimization that people shouldn't really do
👍 ill try and hope my dps ups abit
❤️ :3 UwU
@daring marlin
for nimchipadin:
heart of ancient hunger hero track
or myth helm
sims say heart
but not by a lot
go into a heroic pug and kill vor 
If you dont wanna raid, you can always bonus roll a hat
Also im manning the fuck up and deciding to stop being a lazy bitch and making a real UI for my priest
but pally might as well get myth helm out of a bonus roll while going for box
And getting twintops bar
yeee thats what im sayin, you can roll a helm and if you arent likely to get heart from raid then heart seems solid to pick up
If you dont want to waist time pugging myth chim or myth vorax is it better to bonus roll heroic raid boss or get myth solar prism
prolly myth helm I think that trinket sucks
can farm better
you ain't replacing myth helm til next tier
Guil has spoken
nimchip vault
A gaze 
damn ok mythic gamer
chipadin vault
oh wait nvm
ah fuck i lost the screenie
hero gaze time
sealed chaos urn obviously
nah i mean the screenie for chipadin vault
Hit Windows V
Unless you disabled that
okay so now that im actually being not a noober and making a ui, is there a lightweight addon to let me have more than just "Essential CDs" and "Utility CDs" in an ugly ass line in cdm
nah i know about the paste history thing
im resistant to change grrrr
it wasnt that i lost it, its that i never did it
lmfao
is its ilev bugged thats not hero is it
@sharp gale so what would be your advice to get myth alnseer if i haven't killed any myth boss, just pug chim and imperator?
pug chim and bonus roll the boss
pugging chim is aids
I contemplated pugging Chim
I hate wasting time
i killed it on my monk it was fine
Its not too bad
yeah pugging chim is a gamble. It either goes down in like 5 pulls or it goes down in 25+

see, 5 pulls like i said
Looked at a Brew and pwar +20 wcl and seems like the Brew does more dps and also requires more healing. If that is true how is Brew "tankier"?
Pwar dps = 78k
Brew dps = 88k
Pwar ehrps = 23k
Brew ehrps = 34k
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zXAY2LytWPDKjhkG?fight=44&type=damage-taken&options=130
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ka4drJB69tYFn3WP?fight=12&type=damage-taken&options=130
Re-read what Pash said
saladbar was not free tho
Now check how much stagger they cleared.
Ehrps factors in what they removed with stagger
Happy's right I should have piloted the people in my group last week that wiped 20+ times
Doesn't it?
Ehrps is the healing required AFTER mitigation and stuff
i was the raid leader yes
for chimaerus
Ehrps = EXTERNAL healing required per SECOND
External means not from the monk
See here looked at these logs, ehrps is higher for brew
I pugged it Sunday and it took 5 pulls lul
so no
monk needs more healing
Hp is finite and that is not an accurate metric
How is ehrps not an accurate metric? Wcl is bugged?
The brew is likely doing larger pulls (bc stagger) which would mean more inbound healing. Also the class of healer will make a big difference in that number - a brew being healed by a Druid will have a much higher ehrps than a brew being healed by a paladin because of the race condition created by hots vs direct heals
And further more comparing them to warriors in this way has no control or normalization
If you wanted to run that comparison you would need to do it in two keys with the same players, same classes, same route.
whirling blade is totally passive right?
ya
You can’t just run blind comparisons and come to conclusions, that’s not how data works
Also - “tankiness” isn’t just inbound healing, it’s also the damage curve
i mean it's kinda obvious that stagger is better to heal
because of how smooth the dmg intake is
Taking 500k damage over 10 seconds evenly is much tankier than tanking 500k damage in 1 second and 0 for 9
If ur doing 1 pack at a time or 10 packs at a time, I both cases youre taking damage ==> mitigating some ==> rest is ehrps.
I can see ehrps being lower is healed by a paladin due to their spec dr passive but in this case its a sham healer and druid healer.
Why would you need to normalize for warriors. Ehrps already gives you the external healing that player required in the key?
You would need to normalize for any comparison. And the pack size is important because of the race condition I noted
What race condition?
you will have more time to use your own self healing if you pull 1 pack at a time
More mobs = more damage incidence in a smaller window = less external overheal
and need less healing
from external sources
even if the mobs hit you the same number of times in total
for example
Correct, because your personal heals only tick so fast, and your hp drops faster with more mobs so pulling 10 packs at once means the healer has less overheal on you. Vs pulling 1 pack 10 times means the healer likely has 100% overheal on you
This is precisely why I always say healing logs are useless for external comparison because there are so many factors that influence them
Well if both are timing 20s I suppose there is an assumption that both are doing big/similar size pulls
That’s a bad assumption to make when you’re drawing conclusions based on the data you’re making those assumptions about
I don't think that is a particularly bad assumption for a 20, but looking at more logs of 20s will lead to more accurate conclusions
Well i dont have wcl db access where the heck would I find the source to do comparison up to the accuracy standards
Brew has always had high ehrps due to design
Monks are cringe
what u need a stick for if u can have a sword and a big ass shield 
that is the only correct answer
although
they were even more cringe in d3
i said it idk how many times but brew is such a boring spec. Keg Smash, Firebreath couple of Brews spinning like a idiot
While as warrioe u got big ass stomp, spread out Thunders. Charge and Smash ur enemies, be tanky af and have probably the most HP out of all tanks
people like different things
personally, brew looks cool and its unique but its just not for me
I like Plate armor, I like swords and shields
when joining march on quel lobbies, what do they mean with NSRT in the title?
northern sky raid tools
monk ist just an acceptable dps for me
i totally disagree
its a cool DPS (honestly, wind walker to me is the most boring of the monk specs)
the way MW heals is really cool
and I think Brew, especially when it was first introduced in MoP, was a exciting and new way to tank
Yeah just had a rogue dps tell me in a Skyreach 14, why are you kiting bro, had 9 stacks of the fire debuff on me and the shear debuff so 20% less armor and taking 130k damage a second from the fire
And he is like bro wtf why you kiting
You can do 2 delves lvl 1 if you want 1 more slot
dont have to tell him anything
That is the moment I press shadowmeld
"WHY ARE YOU RUNNING, WHY, ARE, YOU, RUNNING?"
lol
I should have done that I should have hit shadowmeld
well shadowmeld pot anyway
ive used that sound on my soundboard so much, that it just sounds like white noise at this point
The funny thing is after the key the rogue was like tank was trolling
I was like lmao
Is it dumb to macro /cancelaura bop to your regular abilities so when you get bop'd there's less of a chance for time delay?
halp, hero neck or myth weapon/shoulder sim is so close
me thinks iLVL prio so probs a myth item just dont know whether it makes sense to go double arcanoweave or keep sigil on my crafted weapon and take shoulders
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/huhmRVdwfpo8mV28mUqiDh
Brewmaster is a little bit ahead right now, and the team is still working on tuning
From latest wowhead article, "a little bit" lmao
Delve treasure map
discord is having outages lil gup
Welcome to Discord's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.
We are considered a large guild now 
unfortunate wording, i think they meant community servers
They are all over the leaderboards but when I look at ehrps on wcl it shows them with a higher number. Even if you factor for fortune passive letting them chance for 70% bonus healing its still higher
We are a large guild indeed 
not to the guy who is living in 2005 and just flamed me for dpsing on mistweaver
phew I though I was banned in mage's discord despite messaging there two years ago
That's ok, one of the healers in my guild is mist and they don't even play the correct builds because "is a noob trap"
looks like it is fixed now
"Non-Disruptive Tuning
Brewmaster is a little bit ahead right now..."
Thank you Paul Kubit
got mythic gaze with a bonus roll and it has leech
god help they have a meta season

Where is this quote i dont see it on wowhead
it's on wowhead
This was going to be Bear's season nim
bears have had more meta seasons
I wouldnt be happy if pwarr was meta either 
well of course, i wouldnt be happy either
I wanted big bear season raaaaaa
7
Tank tuning needs to happen to all but brew
oh, so its kill it with fire immediately
I mean it typically gets cleaved down but if it isnt killed mobs get dr+bonus damage so
Also killing it gives 20% vers(?) iirc
Found it, I usually ignore tally-essin since he does casual content. Imo I hope they hit brew with a 5% dps nerf and 10% tankiness nerf and give 10% dps to pwar. Also let bears get aggro in aoe pls
how about... tank tuning does not need to happen and yall need to stop being little bitches
thats my toxic take today, you're welcome everybody
War is legitimately a meta contender rn lol
But I don't think its out of line to say it would be nice if the other tanks were a little more beefy
Since "tankiness" is super hard for us small Brian's to calculate, we can look at dps and see that brew is doing a lot of dps. Buff pwar dps to match of nerf brew down to be with everyone else
I really think people fail to understand that blizzard is not looking at the data we are looking at
And they are not balancing based on wcl +20 keys
Qhat data is blizz looking at?
i havent typed "seinfeld leave" in the gif search as fast as i did when i saw what pepega wrote
imagine not having it at the top of your favorites
just beating my own gif search records
Need a keyboard macro for it
i would have too many favorites though 
Ok fine. What would you do for tuning?
I stand corrected, a stream deck?
Gifdeck?
if i ever get one, all the shortcuts will be for soundboard bits
Hey man I get so many good deals on fb market I just gotta make sure I’m not driving into Baltimore to get it
I don’t use fb I just have market lol
i fled the boomerbook thing before it even started
i need to hit up fb marketplace theres some wild shit on there
My profile exists but I have like 5 friends which is basically my kid and her friends parents for messenger
Yea man espec down by you
i made a facebook when i was like 13 and made my picture a clipart skeleton and only log in to look at marketplace once every 6 months lmao
All the rich kids in Loudoun selling nice shit cheap
seriously though, it actually feels better keeping up with friends outside of knowing everything through social media
everytime i reconnect with someone im filled with massive amounts of news
My family and friends all think im some sort of spy because i work in IT and have zero social media presense
I'm really shit at keeping up with people, i gotta reach out to people again but then i fall asleep and forget 
My only social media is discord 
Social media is a plague on society and it should be erased from existence
Discord is a communication medium not really social media
I guess I lurk on reddit shitposting subs that counts
Upcoming tank tuning note just dropped!
- Mt: aoe stomp damage buffed by 20%
- Col: demolish damage buffed by 20%
Warrior: shield slam damage buffed by 5% and added affect "each shield slam reduced avatar cd by 1 second"
Brew:
- purifying brew removes half the stagger it previously did
- keg smash dps reduced by 50%
yeah pretty much disc is my only one as well, sometimes i do watch some instagram reels just to burn time but thats about it, no friends or family tied to it
I reinstall insta for every other partner because they want to do stuff on it but then we break up and i delete it again
lol
I have instagram, but I carfully monitor who Im friends with on there
I have... 4 right now

The exalted 4
they send the best memes
I avoid tiktok like the plague, but people keep sending them to me and i have to watch them on cellular data because i have it blocked on my home network
Tell her to get better memes
Winamp was my jam
im fine with spotify, probably the only service i dont really mind paying for
I had so many mp3s
yea, her meme game is weak af
I use tidal, it’s the only service with actual hifi streams
Tho their library isn’t as good as Amazon or Spotify
When i was a wee lad I'd use youtube -> mp3 converters to download music, then upload it into itunes, then manually import them into my shitty iphone 
Spotify Premium is worth it.... I spend so much time driving and listening to music
that it more then compensates for the cost
yeah thats my problem with it
Then i was a Pandora kid for a while
Spotify Premium more important than netflix
Netflix was dropped long ago
Then switched to spotify because Pandora didnt have the vocaloid artist i wanted to listen to
I have thousands of dollars of audio gear I can’t bring myself to use Spotify low res
Amazon Music honestly has the best catalog, they have literally everything
understandable roid, but i have some very obscure music taste and if tidal does not carry certain genres then its a deal breaker
spotify seems to have most of it, and if i cant find it, i have the mp3s
....what does that even mean 👀
nim is listening to vocaloids all day
Yeah I’m with you, I’m a big bluegrass guy and their selection of southern rock, bluegrass and folk rock blows
im just too lazy to load up the NAS etc
Nim listens to South East African Viking Rap
Yt premium for music app + no adds in yt
I have a pretty wide range of taste Nim might have me beat though
No ads in anything if you got your own dns server 
I just listen to folk punk and lesbian pop 
Idk what to say to that. GL mixing african rap with nordic sounds ?
Some of the shit my daughter listens to is genuinely decent, some of it is terrible
its actually more viking rap with a tinge of that South East African Country beat
you just dont get it
lmao
The Hu (stylized as The HU; pronounced as "the who") is a Mongolian folk metal band formed in 2016 in Ulaanbaatar. Incorporating traditional Mongolian instrumentation, including the morin khuur, the tovshuur, and throat singing, the band calls their style of music "hunnu rock", a term inspired by the Xiongnu, an ancient nomadic empire based in M...
I f with the hu
i love these guys
is that the Asian version of The Who?
Route traffic through your dns and you have a whitelist to only allow non-adds?
i mean mongolian war cries go hard
Yeaaah i... need an example
i havent actually listened to those guys though
I trap all traffic from my internal network as well as our phones to my own dns server and blacklist literally anything that isn’t expected traffic
but off the top of my head, the 3rd dune's trailer had a good mongolian throat singing and it sounded really good
I think my music Taste is just too simple
Lately smart devices have been getting smarter and breaking if you black hole ads so I’ve been redirecting to a local and returning a 200 so they think it succeeded
Samsung is sheisty as shit when it comes to on device ads
My Samsung fridge has a screen and it actually has Samsung ads loaded to the local storage it will play if it can’t get out to the net which is insane when you think about it
What if you take you phone far away from your house? Even inside the network i would yt specific app on tv/streamer stick would have a precondition for add to have initialized and completed before serving content
My dns server is accessible to me anywhere
What about 2nd q
Usually that is just looking that the ad was resolved and if you redirect the traffic and return the expected http codes it will go along on its merry way
Most people can’t set things like this up, it’s my job so I know how to do these things but I think the bigger take away is you shouldn’t need to be what is essentially a network engineer to stop getting blasted with ads in your home
How far behind is col to thane?
Thane is boring to play
question does heroic Gaze of alnseer beat myythic track heart of the wind ?
You have to sim this
thats a question easily answered by simming
i never sim ahha 😛
well today is a good day to start
haha
Conversely we will never answer that question
We seem to be at an impasse
thats alright ill sim it but to manyy choices in vault this week
We could give you an answer, but it would be a complete guess
Thank you for the actual numbers 
Since i just use my arms gear and play offtank i have way more crit than Haste. Probably better to go col then due to statweights
stat weights dont matter
Dunno about that. Thane usually loves haste. Ill never have enough haste to even specc into fray, sooo..
Guess ill just sim and find out
wrong
It doesn’t matter

