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stiff inlet
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or something else?

sharp gale
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I will do a season with full mastery prot

jagged pier
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nah

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with rerolls

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im opening as arms

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cause ill get myth shield and wep with rerolls

stiff inlet
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i got mine last week on rerolls so thats a good point

jagged pier
lusty grotto
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I'm opening as prot

stiff inlet
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but i dont need a 2h

lusty grotto
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Cause I have myth 2h already

sharp gale
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bc special jewelry

fringe mural
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This is more like an exploit not a cool trick tbh

tribal wharf
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i guess i get chest

jagged pier
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oh god vault

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time to go to the gym

outer willow
lusty grotto
sharp gale
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I like vault screenshots

fringe mural
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should i roll as prot for the chance to get solar core igniter if i already have shield and 1h?

tribal wharf
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im not super excited about the ring, or shield options

severe star
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I just need a trinket

outer willow
sharp gale
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Im on multiple casual guild discords only to spy on their vaults

fringe mural
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Today's the day i am envious of the us folks

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because i need to wait until tomorrow for my vault

daring urchin
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hey all, new to prot war, do we open on a different spec?

fringe mural
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...again

toxic pewter
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worst vault i think i ever got

severe star
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I got an indestruible shield

fringe mural
outer willow
sharp gale
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You already have the neck apb ?

fringe mural
severe star
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but I already have a maxxed myth sheild

toxic pewter
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do u think i take the extra bonus rolls over neck?

sharp gale
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And no vault is awful since you can pick the gamble token

fringe mural
toxic pewter
fringe mural
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because an indestructible shield is nice af

sharp gale
fringe mural
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and upgrading it won't cost you anything anymore

toxic pewter
sharp gale
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Or if you roll in pit for the ring, you might take the token

toxic pewter
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I want a 1h weapon

sharp gale
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Bc you will get the neck anyway

stiff inlet
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So question, i keep seeing people talk about solarcore, it obv is a tank trinket but doesnt sim "as high" as others, is it just the best defensive alternative?

fringe mural
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yeah

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It's the best defensive trinket

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And you can't sim for it

stiff inlet
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which i get, ty i just wanted to verify the thought process

sharp gale
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Dragons trinket is the only one better right? I’m using solar core when I tank bc I will never get the raid one

severe star
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I trust the opinions

sharp gale
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You can remove the belt from the table

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It’s a hero item

undone beacon
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if its a myth shield then its a no brainer regardless

fringe mural
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in des tructible

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Take it

severe star
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sorry worded poorly

severe star
# severe star
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Indestructible Shield or Belt

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I have maxed Shield that is BIS will do it for funsies

undone beacon
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lmao huge poll gaming

stiff inlet
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id drop to a hero shield for indestructible idc

severe star
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I have my BIS sheild equiped

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and I have a hero belt equiped

fringe venture
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Then go for myth belt

sharp gale
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What are the choices

severe star
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myth belt or indestructible shield

undone beacon
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For once I ask, post the vault

sharp gale
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Myth belt or the token

fringe venture
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Does the indestructible shield protect us from backshots? ENHANCE 🤣🤣
@lusty grotto

heavy yoke
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heroic alnseer or myth heart

undone beacon
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But honestly I’d say indestructible shield is much rarer than a belt

undone beacon
ornate palm
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Mythic shield or mythic solar core igniter?

solid sun
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Guys I’m going through an identity crisis

severe star
sharp gale
undone beacon
fringe venture
solid sun
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This is my second week in a row without a vault

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Idk who I am anymore

drowsy comet
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Do you guys craft belt or go for a dungeon belt?

undone beacon
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I’m gonna be the odd one out probably but an indestructible shield will save you so much gold, versus a myth belt you can roll in M+

drowsy comet
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before nIm shows up pls gimme an answer hes gonna bully me again sadge

sharp gale
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Last week I did a bad move on my vault+ crests

drowsy comet
frosty mango
unreal hornet
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not too shabby all myth slots are upgrades
neck versa could be nice OR myth one hander (currently have 285 crafted weapon)
wonder what my sims are gonna say 🤔

drowsy comet
outer willow
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So we get 2 more charges for rolls today right?

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5k gold?

fringe mural
sharp gale
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I bonus rolled in nexus point -> picked the boots over ring with avoidance, and I did the mistake to craft before reclear

frosty mango
drowsy comet
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tho on my warrior I got champ gaze last week peepoHappy

fringe mural
drowsy comet
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im so trash i know, i need to grind more lmao

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both champ

opal ledge
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oh no that stupid box again

drowsy comet
outer willow
ornate palm
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Why you gonna make me choose between shield and solar core?

unreal hornet
sharp gale
fringe mural
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I don't know where you guys pug chim mythic

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My guild didn't even kill him yet

drowsy comet
unreal hornet
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but im also swapping from either hero gaze or hero heart haha

sharp gale
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And I will get gaze in my vault tomorrow

drowsy comet
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hero gaze hero heart is all I want then Im happy lmao

sharp gale
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I have hero heart and myth puzzle box

drowsy comet
sharp gale
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On the W monk

unreal hornet
sharp gale
drowsy comet
sharp gale
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I believe

drowsy comet
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i did nothing on my pwarr this week cuz I was busy healing smh, will blow a couple of keys before EU reset then yea..going for HC raids tomorrow

sharp gale
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I will do hc chima now just to have it in heroic

solid sun
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You can get any m trinket you want if you set your mind to it

fringe mural
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Will people take you myth chim if you have aotc achievement?

drowsy comet
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does myth chim get any new moves btw?

sharp gale
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You have raid separated in two bc touch = death

cold pilot
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sheeeeeeesh

sharp gale
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2 ppl job is to go on 2 marker when 2 ppl gets a circle

cold pilot
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do i take hero neck or myth gloves

sharp gale
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And intermission is where wipes happen

fringe mural
undone beacon
# drowsy comet does myth chim get any new moves btw?

Touching people in the other phase kills both of you, rift madness needs people in the other realm to soak and save, half the raid is phased during intermission and has their own adds to kill, fears cast much faster

fringe mural
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Dafuq

undone beacon
naive ravine
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Eu rn

drowsy comet
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at first I thought something WAY differently, until I read the last part

fringe mural
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Awwwww yiss

drowsy comet
undone beacon
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i am disgusted

sharp gale
toxic pewter
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oh no lmao

undone beacon
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i mean its huge for arms/fury so

fringe mural
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i'm so happy for you pash

young wasp
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Hey gang, does the reroll loot system work like --

If you have myth chest from vault, and you reroll on Chim, can you get the myth chest token?

I'm under the impression the reroll system doesn't give a shit what you have and will reward you whatever you get and each item is slashed off the loot table afterwards

sharp gale
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And 4th add phase one of the tank sacrifices himself

opal ledge
undone beacon
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When you roll, that item is taken off the table. Thats the only way

young wasp
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Gotcha. ty

fringe mural
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rolling for chimaerus is not a huge deal though

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3 weeks max

young wasp
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yarp

drowsy comet
fringe mural
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It's just three items right?

young wasp
sharp gale
undone beacon
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Why does this game keep giving me fucking cloaks bro

sharp gale
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Saladbar is more gamble with pugs but it’s still simple

fringe mural
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Plus chim

sharp gale
fringe mural
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chim is basically the boss after alleria in that system

fringe mural
opal ledge
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i need a weapon, and there is a weapon in my vault...
but since i'm using rolls in terrace might be better to just get an extra roll

unreal hornet
sharp gale
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Im on alleria, its been 6 weeks i have raid myth vaults

opal ledge
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this new roll thing makes thing so confusing

drowsy comet
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do you only get loot in vault of the raid bosses you killed?

young wasp
undone beacon
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At the beginning of the season killing Chim was unlocking all of voidspire for loot, they might have fixed that though

sharp gale
young wasp
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once you kill it, it's always in the pool though

drowsy comet
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per week?

young wasp
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perma

drowsy comet
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hm i see

sharp gale
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Yes it’s permanent if you kill it once

fringe mural
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erm

drowsy comet
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hm I never did marsh on my pwarr, so that gives me better chances monkahmm

sharp gale
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You already killed myth bosses ?

drowsy comet
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no

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or wait, is it per difficulty or overall killed bosses?

fringe mural
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well i got told this is how it works for all difficulty levels and tested it for lower difficulty

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also blizzard states this is how it works

sharp gale
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So you whatever 2 myth bosses you kill, they are the only ones that can drop in your first raid vault slot

frosty mango
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big arms choice, help me brewjj

pastel summit
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That boss and prior bosses iirc

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so you could get like soulhunter boots if you only killed fract

sharp gale
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Yeah prior but Chima is separated raid

fringe mural
sharp gale
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And imperator is the first

fringe mural
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I killed chima and imperator, nothing else ever

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And got loot from dragons in vault

sharp gale
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You got myth dragon gear ?

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MYTH

fringe mural
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is it different for myth?

fringe mural
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where does it state that it's different for myth

drowsy comet
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and I still got 2 rolls lol

sharp gale
velvet knot
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I GOT ANOTHER PUZZLEBOX

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GIVE IT UP FOR 4TH MYTHIC PUZZLEBOXX

dusky canopy
velvet knot
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@lusty grotto

sharp gale
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If you got dragon heroic loot, it’s just bc you killed dragons in heroic and filled your second slot

drowsy comet
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screw puzzle box

velvet knot
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okay yso

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do i take cloak

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Or

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Do i take tokens

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and gamble for mainhand

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pretty shit cloak too

fringe mural
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you do

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source is wowhead

outer willow
sharp gale
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Which are : paladins and alleria myth

velvet knot
fringe mural
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no, i killed imperator and chimaerus on a lower difficulty, and got loot in the vault from dragons

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in my vault slot

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i never killed dragons

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ever

sharp gale
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Bc you killed dragons heroic before

fringe mural
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never

pastel summit
fringe mural
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on any difficulty

sharp gale
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Is it the same waste of time as last time where you got a raid item from a random box

outer willow
dawn lintel
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ummmm, what should i use

fringe mural
dawn lintel
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puzzle box and...?

undone beacon
sharp gale
fringe mural
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i was just mixing up quests

dawn lintel
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heart of wind?

frosty mango
fringe mural
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the assumption was still right, you could acquire heroic loot from a quest

frosty mango
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I know its an arms sim, but the time it took to run the sim was 10 seconds, and there was no queue

fringe mural
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from alleria

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and it was not a tw quest

glacial ridge
sharp gale
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So your assumption was false

outer willow
fringe mural
glacial ridge
fringe mural
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i just forgot to open it after turning the quest in

fringe mural
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and opened it with all the other stuff at the end of the delve

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the main assumption was you can get loot from any boss without killing it through another means

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and this is true up to heroic

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just not for myth

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because you don't get a weekly quest that rewards a myth chest

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during the dungeon event the weekly rewarded heroic gear, even from l'ura

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for people who haven't seen her at all

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the cache of quel'thalas treasures

ivory barn
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Time to waste 2 more rolls in Nexus

sharp gale
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i got one of the two rings

dusky canopy
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I got ring and legs last week

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Odds looking great today

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Do I have to do 3 bosses again for the rolls?

ivory barn
sharp gale
dusky canopy
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Same same

drowsy comet
dusky canopy
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I don’t think I even want a raid item

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Unless it’s a helm or something for crest saver

ivory barn
drowsy comet
sharp gale
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it doesn't look like it but void is myth

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and heart of hunger

drowsy comet
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smh a fury warrior, not even arms

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smh

ivory barn
drowsy comet
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ahh okay

sharp gale
drowsy comet
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much better

ivory barn
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I know it's fury, but same areas for prot

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I used to use streamer UI's till things broke

dusky canopy
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@lusty grotto what are the odds that I get seat gloves in vault and bonus roll a ring

ivory barn
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If I bonus roll the other ring or have it in vault this week I can farm Pit neck

drowsy comet
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Oh god thats alot going on in your screen

ivory barn
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Kinda, yeah sadge

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It's always still being tweaked lol

sharp gale
crisp ocean
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is there an easy way in skyreach to time the golems beam thing in the room with the second boss

ivory barn
drowsy comet
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KiraUI a lil bit modified peepo

daring marlin
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anyone else just getting tier upgrades in their vault?

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pretty pog tbh

ivory barn
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See I got yelled at for having action bars and the CDM spells showing twice

fringe mural
drowsy comet
opal ledge
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what happens when u bonus roll with the bag full?

ivory barn
fringe mural
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pash saw an lbv ring drop in a vault of a guy who downed the first two myth bosses of voidspire and chimaerus iirc

stone tundra
daring marlin
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Does he tell you to turn off meters too?

stone tundra
daring marlin
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too much screen clutter

undone beacon
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Man I made a nice pic to ask for vault advice in spirest land and nobody has helped me, why are people so mean to me smh

ivory barn
daring marlin
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oh damage numbers too

drowsy comet
opal ledge
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not bad... it was nice rolling before vault, i would have gotten 2 weapons

solid sun
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Did you happen to send a picture and your raid leader saw it

stone tundra
ivory barn
solid sun
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Or is he micromanaging everyone’s ui

stone tundra
ivory barn
drowsy comet
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think imma craft a belt, only thing i think worth, cloak already crafted

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too bad i dont have crests ;/

stone tundra
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As long as it is not actively bad

ivory barn
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Less for brain to stare at the better I 🤔

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When weakauras existed I had an aura that covered meters in combat

stone tundra
tribal wharf
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wow is easy game

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i dont understand all the confusi on

ivory barn
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Bruh. Not recount 😭

tribal wharf
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its better for pvp isnt it

drowsy comet
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healer UI or what

stone tundra
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No

tribal wharf
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cant be

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ele

stone tundra
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That is elemental shaman

tribal wharf
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lava blast

stone tundra
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Thunderstorm

tribal wharf
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thats a dumbass ui

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is what it is

stone tundra
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Retail wrath ui

ivory barn
stone tundra
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Its a meme

tribal wharf
proud dock
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guide says crit/mastry shieldl from MT is bis. any reason why other shield arent better like the crit/vers one?

stone tundra
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Cant see shit

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Ye hodir, stormcloud

undone beacon
tribal wharf
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i think blizzard with the current customizable ui

undone beacon
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BIS lists are fake

proud dock
tribal wharf
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should help make it so these uis cant really happen

drowsy comet
velvet knot
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is this any good?

jagged pier
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No

tribal wharf
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ya,

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you dont want it

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i do

sharp gale
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1min30 Impeding victory

daring marlin
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go to the gym

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@warm plinth BEAT YOU TO IT

tribal wharf
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if it was 19,600dmg to EVERY target

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every tick it hits

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maybe

sharp gale
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i think it is every target

tribal wharf
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you would need clown scenarios to get some max healing scenario out of it

daring marlin
ivory barn
daring marlin
tribal wharf
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i wouldnt know

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damned t hing never droped

undone beacon
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Guil you missed a big gym chat last night

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We're running a skyhold marathon now

daring marlin
undone beacon
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Ghash is gonna run a marathon and we're all gonna join him ofc

daring marlin
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very cool

unreal sequoia
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Is a 289 weapon better then the crafted one with hunt?

undone beacon
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Yes

unreal sequoia
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Any reason it sims lower in damage?

undone beacon
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Did you add an embel to another piece

unreal sequoia
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not yet

undone beacon
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Thats why

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You're simming losing an embel for the weapon when in reality you'll be crafting an embel onto another slot and gaining the weapon

unreal sequoia
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Is it worth spending the crests on another embelished piece then?

undone beacon
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Yes

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Cloak/Wrists tend to be where we want to slap an embel as they are low-impact stat slots

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Throw an arcanoweave on wrists/cloak and you're gaming

ivory barn
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My prot set is wrists/shield, cause fury was weapon/wrist sadge

velvet knot
fringe mural
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Next week is craft week right?

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or this week for you NA dudes

jagged pier
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This week

fringe mural
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ok, i have 1 spark now and should get another tomorrow then

stone tundra
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You get spark every week, so yeah

runic bolt
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Send help, what do we even bonus roll on if we have gaze

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Wep?

undone beacon
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Weapons or Shield if they arent myth, otherwise whatever sims best

opal ledge
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so is monk that tankier than us?

lofty warren
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Both my pwar and brew are 3.2k and I've just been doing 8 dung per toon. In my exp pwar is more tanks but brew does like 20k more dps

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But it also varies how useful dodge is like on the skyreach birds that bleed you as a brew you dont really care bc ur gonna dodge and reset but as pwar you better watch it or die fast

jagged pier
daring marlin
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brew mit and self healing are pretty huge

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goofy class

jagged pier
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Always has been

daring marlin
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true, silly drunkards

lofty warren
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Self healing is fine but there are times as brew (especially on big pulls openers) where you go from half hp to 0 and ur stagger isnt even that high

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Usually when lots of mobs hit you all at once

plush tendon
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at least in a M+ setting this season, Brew is tankier then Prot War

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but in raid Prot War is the tankiest tank

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just going off % of deaths in Mythic

lofty warren
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Ok well I must be using either the wrong talents or wrong play bc as brew I feel way squishier.. for talents im juat using the icyveins sp recommended

daring marlin
lofty warren
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As pwar using bsv talents i have the confidence to do bigger pulls and even did lots of 15 Mc today with dps stance on

plush tendon
jagged pier
daring marlin
plush tendon
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but thats where the tank balance conversation gets weird; cause to me Brew is completely useless in raid except for mystic touch but great in M+

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whereas tanks like War, DK, Bear, heck even Pal to a extent have a real place in a raid comp

lofty warren
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Brew is there due to high damage and good self healjng. If pwar did the same damage as brew it would be a pwar season 100%

drowsy comet
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once again, some people really dont know shit in this game...

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joined a +10 WS, ppl didnt know the Duo boss, failed the hook 2 times, wiped.
Tried again, with lust, all DPS and healer ded again, this Shaman legit trolled and acted like a child, well insta deplete lmao

lofty warren
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See here in archon brew doing ~88k dps and pwar 78k. Put as a percent that means brew has 13% more dps than pwar.

naive ravine
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I mean how many of those runs are with 1/4 apex

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and full mastery TaN build

drowsy comet
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fuck meta specs

naive ravine
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Cant rly compared that

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And also all the good players

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(most of them)

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Play brew

drowsy comet
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because these players push the really high keys

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99% of all the players dont

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so metas are nonsense bait

naive ravine
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Metas do exist

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But monk is not the preffered tank cuz he is dealing tons of dmg

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he just survives stuff

solid sun
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Why do you think meta is nonsense bait

jagged pier
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But a fiar few 1/4 s

daring marlin
jagged pier
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Majority most likely

daring marlin
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after 17s I think

drowsy comet
naive ravine
stone tundra
drowsy comet
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every time

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and when the team wipes once

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??????

dusty ruin
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Yall be playing with some wild characters

trim bay
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i have crafted shield max. i got bulwark of noble resolve mythic in vault. is that prio due to 4 ilvl increase?

stone tundra
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I am very glad that i dont need to pug keys

drowsy comet
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thats the issue with "easy" season, all the casuals get to 10s and above and thats also why the depletion ratio is like 1:3 or so, saw something like that in a graph a week ago

stone tundra
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12s should be fine? monkahmm

trim bay
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cheers dude.

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i wasnt sure i thought so.

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phat ass ring but as well

jagged pier
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But u can always reroll a shield shruge

trim bay
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but block is block

jagged pier
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Vault now gets messy cause of rerolls

crisp ocean
jagged pier
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Like i have no reason to open as port as ill get 1hander and shield from rerolls can also ignore chest and legs

jagged pier
daring marlin
drowsy comet
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i wonder if I can even get the 3rd bonus roll while not having done anything in the week...

crisp ocean
daring marlin
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I SORTA HATE IT

undone beacon
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agreed

daring marlin
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I'd like rerolling more if I raided actually

dusty ruin
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I think you need 3 slots to get enough for w bonus roll

drowsy comet
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time to do one MoP TW dungeon to stay on the safe side xd

solid sun
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Maybe y’all are just using too much brain juice

crisp ocean
daring marlin
solid sun
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Send the vault on the best item available and reroll as you do dungos

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Heck yeah Guil just full send

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We ain’t wizards here

undone beacon
solid sun
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You’re not a wizard either

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You’re a cult leader

warm plinth
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Shhh stop yelling

solid sun
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Who yelling

daring marlin
undone beacon
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Guil is pumped he gotta yell

solid sun
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Guil still feeling the effects of the preworkout energy spike

lofty warren
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What is the correct decision if your vault sucks? Take bonus rolls or socket?

plush tendon
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rerolls are awesome

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super easy way to gear alts now

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stack up a bunch of rerolls and get lots of myth I level

tall lance
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Hello guys, at high keys 18-20, the stats prio continue to be crit>haste>mast>vers ?

I have 30% haste and 27% crit

daring marlin
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though this set of hyperextensions had me on the floor after

plush tendon
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and then its sim

tall lance
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Ok

crisp ocean
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on wowhead it said haste>vers

tall lance
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But the goal is the survivability not the dps

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That’s why l’m asking

undone beacon
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Haste is your best stat for survivability

plush tendon
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as we dont know the guidewriter

solid sun
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All stats have defensive value

plush tendon
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but Mwahi does the Icy Veins one

crisp ocean
lofty warren
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Haste > vers = crit is all you need to know

spiral jetty
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haste is default bis because it's cool also

daring marlin
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WOWHEAD

plush tendon
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haste is good cause it means more globals, better SB uptime, more rage, more cds, more fun

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crit gives us damage and parry, which is awesome for mitagating melee damage and for the chance of negating dot/bleed applications

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vers is just flat damage and DR that works on everything, but it scales slowly (every 1% of vers is only .5% dr... you really cant get that much to make it meaningful, but it shouldnt be avoided)

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and mastery is attack power and increased crit block chance; generally the least useful, but could be good if its super low

solid sun
#

And we sim because we value doing more damage because things die faster and all stats have defensive value so whatever you get in addition to haste is going to help you live

plush tendon
#

^ exactly

solid sun
#

While preaching that gameplay is where the vast majority of your survivability rests

ivory barn
#

ahh yes shit vault, grabbing gloves

plush tendon
#

idk, seems like a decent vault

#

two pieces of myth tier

#

and a wep

dusty ruin
#

Yall getting me all fired up

plush tendon
#

I'd categorize a shit vault as being a vault the same item slot multiple times

ivory barn
#

made me 280 fury tho

solid sun
#

Well GGs is weird

#

Because they let their raid leader determine what they play and it changes like every hour it seems

#

So who knows what they need in their vault

ivory barn
#

I immediately took gloves, sim is better 🙂

harsh trellis
#

Stupid question time

dusky canopy
#

Send it

harsh trellis
#

this portion

#

does that still apply to whirling blade

solid sun
#

Yuh

harsh trellis
#

technically a ravager is active

undone beacon
#

Yes

harsh trellis
#

ok cool

undone beacon
#

Whirling Blade just procs Ravagers, it’s the same ability just random proc instead of on cast

harsh trellis
#

right, its what ive been using I was just browsin around and was curious

undone beacon
#

Yessir

ivory barn
#

time to go be sad after work with 2 more cores into Nexus

solid sun
#

Why are you sad

ivory barn
#

is this that 298 quest I'm guessing?

undone beacon
#

Yes

daring marlin
#

yes

undone beacon
#

Hah beat you to it

daring marlin
#

Why do you hate me tho

undone beacon
#

I could never

ivory barn
undone beacon
#

That’s what I took from my vault peepo

ivory barn
#

going to go see if my new rogue got it lol

undone beacon
#

My rolls are tied up for the next 1-3 weeks anyways with dragons reclears so

charred ivy
#

What is reccomended drop for bsv?

drowsy comet
undone beacon
charred ivy
#

Ea?

drowsy comet
undone beacon
#

Enduring Alacrity

charred ivy
#

Ok ty 🙂

ivory barn
drowsy comet
#

i see

daring marlin
#

tbh every week my lock gets tier from vault

#

with single slots lol

ivory barn
#

my fucking rogue the first 10 I do week 1 is a myth dagger LOL

daring marlin
#

game wants me to roll demo

undone beacon
#

Pulled a bis weapon today

#

I’m sitting on like 5 myth 1/6 pieces from vault cuz I haven’t farmed crests on him keks

daring marlin
#

Should get double crests

#

farming crests on alts is actually the worst shit ever

stiff inlet
#

got both skyreach trinkets today win for rolls

undone beacon
#

I’m just waiting to hit 285 on priest so I can get crest discount on alts before I spend myth on them

daring marlin
#

couple more weeks for me

#

I'm garbage and 281

plush tendon
#

I think ill be able to hit 285 this reset

stiff inlet
#

^

daring marlin
#

but I keep pulling mythic tier from vault at least

plush tendon
#

im 280 but im rocking a 263 neck and trinket

undone beacon
#

I reeeeeally hope i can rip a Vaelgors off of dragons this week

plush tendon
#

or itll be close; just gotta hope for a good reclear and vault

undone beacon
#

then i can free up future bonus rolls for NPX

daring marlin
undone beacon
lofty warren
drowsy comet
#

true

daring marlin
#

hungry

lunar haven
#

Anybody play with Ampoule? Does it actually heal you much?

undone beacon
#

It is very lackluster compared to other options

lunar haven
#

thx

loud rune
#

Hallo

undone beacon
#

Sup

loud rune
#

pash did you get your mc chicken yday

undone beacon
#

I skipped dinner peepo

loud rune
#

🙁

#

protein!

undone beacon
#

I didnt realize how late it was and then i just went to bed

loud rune
#

is the wow movie worth to watch

daring marlin
loud rune
#

better 36 than nun

daring marlin
#

smh

loud rune
#

maybe in the US

rocky crest
#

anyone blasting colossus in 17/18's ? how does it feel

waxen frigate
daring marlin
# loud rune

Brother that looks more like a grilled chicken sandwich

loud rune
#

we also dont have the quarterpounder etc

daring marlin
#

A mcchicken is 350ish

daring marlin
loud rune
#

mcchicken looks sad compared to the crisp

daring marlin
stoic hound
#

do you mean like this?

lusty grotto
#

also that build is kinda meh for anything under 18+

loud rune
daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

and nothing there will make a difference

#

except for BSV

#

and ive ran BSV only swaps without the build he posted up to 17s without issues

#

if you want a crutch, BSV is more than enough

#

last stand and indom are unnecessary

loud rune
#

oh fuck that explains when i tested some high key build why i sometimes started to lose threat

charred ivy
#

Just wondering cause i wanna swap build cause i seen my parse was low. But also im scared of die xD going into 16s atm

lusty grotto
#

just do EA into BSV

#

that's more than enough

#

indom wont save you

#

LS is just 🤷‍♂️ and will reinforce bad habits such as using wall as a reaction instead of how it should be used

nova gorge
#

Anyone else notice a bug where you don't get the option for using voidcores after reset on anything?

lusty grotto
#

pop a health pot instead, its free and not worth any talent points

nova gorge
#

I didn't get the pop-up to spend my voidcores (I have 3) after mythic Chimmy kill. I used 2 last week on same boss.

lusty grotto
#

free as in completely off-gcd

stoic hound
lusty grotto
#

for anything under 18

#

that number will be higher this week

#

because our ilvl goes up

nova gorge
#

I have 3

toxic pewter
#

well that sucks

sharp gale
#

weird

toxic pewter
#

maybe its an addon display issue occurring or something

#

sucks tho cant kill again this week

lusty grotto
#

make sure its not an addon and pop a CS request, if you get an "unfortunately we can't help you", keep making them

lofty warren
#

Taking bsv only has you give up a relatively small % of ur dps

#

Imo i have bsv and when I am not taking lots of damage I turn on dpa stance. Dunno how correct that is

lusty grotto
#

thats fine, as long as you remember to swap back

#

but its a minor optimization that people shouldn't really do

charred ivy
flat delta
#

❤️ :3 UwU

lusty grotto
#

@daring marlin

#

for nimchipadin:
heart of ancient hunger hero track
or myth helm

#

sims say heart

#

but not by a lot

undone beacon
#

go into a heroic pug and kill vor peepo

lusty grotto
#

ehh

#

im helping my brother's guild so i cant lock myself

undone beacon
#

If you dont wanna raid, you can always bonus roll a hat

#

Also im manning the fuck up and deciding to stop being a lazy bitch and making a real UI for my priest

lusty grotto
#

but pally might as well get myth helm out of a bonus roll while going for box

undone beacon
#

And getting twintops bar

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

yeah

#

ill just sit on it for now

lofty warren
#

If you dont want to waist time pugging myth chim or myth vorax is it better to bonus roll heroic raid boss or get myth solar prism

daring marlin
#

can farm better

#

you ain't replacing myth helm til next tier

undone beacon
#

Guil has spoken

lusty grotto
#

nimchip vault

ivory barn
#

A gaze LETSGOOO

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

chipadin vault

daring marlin
#

oh wait nvm

lusty grotto
#

ah fuck i lost the screenie

undone beacon
#

hero gaze time

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

nah i mean the screenie for chipadin vault

ivory barn
lusty grotto
ivory barn
#

Unless you disabled that

undone beacon
#

okay so now that im actually being not a noober and making a ui, is there a lightweight addon to let me have more than just "Essential CDs" and "Utility CDs" in an ugly ass line in cdm

lusty grotto
#

nah i know about the paste history thing

undone beacon
#

im resistant to change grrrr

lusty grotto
#

it wasnt that i lost it, its that i never did it

daring marlin
#

lmfao

lusty grotto
#

gaze it is

#

or hodl

pastel summit
lusty grotto
#

its hero

#

only the paladin did myth raid this week

fringe mural
#

@sharp gale so what would be your advice to get myth alnseer if i haven't killed any myth boss, just pug chim and imperator?

sharp gale
#

pug chim and bonus roll the boss

daring marlin
ivory barn
#

I contemplated pugging Chim

daring marlin
#

I hate wasting time

sharp gale
#

i killed it on my monk it was fine

tight tusk
#

Its not too bad

undone beacon
#

yeah pugging chim is a gamble. It either goes down in like 5 pulls or it goes down in 25+

daring marlin
sharp gale
undone beacon
#

see, 5 pulls like i said

lofty warren
#

Looked at a Brew and pwar +20 wcl and seems like the Brew does more dps and also requires more healing. If that is true how is Brew "tankier"?

Pwar dps = 78k
Brew dps = 88k

Pwar ehrps = 23k
Brew ehrps = 34k

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zXAY2LytWPDKjhkG?fight=44&type=damage-taken&options=130

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ka4drJB69tYFn3WP?fight=12&type=damage-taken&options=130

daring marlin
sharp gale
#

saladbar was not free tho

remote tusk
lofty warren
daring marlin
#

Happy's right I should have piloted the people in my group last week that wiped 20+ times

lofty warren
#

Doesn't it?

lofty warren
#

Ehrps is the healing required AFTER mitigation and stuff

remote tusk
sharp gale
#

for chimaerus

lofty warren
lofty warren
#

External means not from the monk

lofty warren
frosty mango
#

I pugged it Sunday and it took 5 pulls lul

fringe mural
#

monk needs more healing

frosty mango
lofty warren
#

How is ehrps not an accurate metric? Wcl is bugged?

frosty mango
#

The brew is likely doing larger pulls (bc stagger) which would mean more inbound healing. Also the class of healer will make a big difference in that number - a brew being healed by a Druid will have a much higher ehrps than a brew being healed by a paladin because of the race condition created by hots vs direct heals

#

And further more comparing them to warriors in this way has no control or normalization

#

If you wanted to run that comparison you would need to do it in two keys with the same players, same classes, same route.

charred ivy
#

whirling blade is totally passive right?

fringe mural
#

ya

frosty mango
#

You can’t just run blind comparisons and come to conclusions, that’s not how data works

#

Also - “tankiness” isn’t just inbound healing, it’s also the damage curve

fringe mural
#

i mean it's kinda obvious that stagger is better to heal

#

because of how smooth the dmg intake is

frosty mango
#

Taking 500k damage over 10 seconds evenly is much tankier than tanking 500k damage in 1 second and 0 for 9

lofty warren
frosty mango
lofty warren
#

What race condition?

fringe mural
#

you will have more time to use your own self healing if you pull 1 pack at a time

frosty mango
#

More mobs = more damage incidence in a smaller window = less external overheal

fringe mural
#

and need less healing

#

from external sources

#

even if the mobs hit you the same number of times in total

#

for example

frosty mango
#

Correct, because your personal heals only tick so fast, and your hp drops faster with more mobs so pulling 10 packs at once means the healer has less overheal on you. Vs pulling 1 pack 10 times means the healer likely has 100% overheal on you

#

This is precisely why I always say healing logs are useless for external comparison because there are so many factors that influence them

lofty warren
#

Well if both are timing 20s I suppose there is an assumption that both are doing big/similar size pulls

frosty mango
#

That’s a bad assumption to make when you’re drawing conclusions based on the data you’re making those assumptions about

calm tulip
#

I don't think that is a particularly bad assumption for a 20, but looking at more logs of 20s will lead to more accurate conclusions

lofty warren
#

Well i dont have wcl db access where the heck would I find the source to do comparison up to the accuracy standards

lofty warren
#

Brew has always had high ehrps due to design

drowsy comet
#

Monks are cringe

#

what u need a stick for if u can have a sword and a big ass shield feelycraft

fringe mural
#

although

#

they were even more cringe in d3

drowsy comet
#

i said it idk how many times but brew is such a boring spec. Keg Smash, Firebreath couple of Brews spinning like a idiot

#

While as warrioe u got big ass stomp, spread out Thunders. Charge and Smash ur enemies, be tanky af and have probably the most HP out of all tanks

plush tendon
#

people like different things

#

personally, brew looks cool and its unique but its just not for me

#

I like Plate armor, I like swords and shields

loud rune
#

when joining march on quel lobbies, what do they mean with NSRT in the title?

lusty grotto
#

northern sky raid tools

fringe mural
plush tendon
#

its a cool DPS (honestly, wind walker to me is the most boring of the monk specs)

#

the way MW heals is really cool

#

and I think Brew, especially when it was first introduced in MoP, was a exciting and new way to tank

waxen cradle
#

Yeah just had a rogue dps tell me in a Skyreach 14, why are you kiting bro, had 9 stacks of the fire debuff on me and the shear debuff so 20% less armor and taking 130k damage a second from the fire

#

And he is like bro wtf why you kiting

sharp gale
#

You can do 2 delves lvl 1 if you want 1 more slot

plush tendon
#

dont have to tell him anything

cerulean tusk
#

That is the moment I press shadowmeld

#

"WHY ARE YOU RUNNING, WHY, ARE, YOU, RUNNING?"

waxen cradle
#

lol

#

I should have done that I should have hit shadowmeld

#

well shadowmeld pot anyway

lusty grotto
#

ive used that sound on my soundboard so much, that it just sounds like white noise at this point

waxen cradle
#

The funny thing is after the key the rogue was like tank was trolling

#

I was like lmao

lofty warren
#

Is it dumb to macro /cancelaura bop to your regular abilities so when you get bop'd there's less of a chance for time delay?

lusty grotto
#

no

#

ive had those macroed since tbc

unreal hornet
daring narwhal
#

Brewmaster is a little bit ahead right now, and the team is still working on tuning
From latest wowhead article, "a little bit" lmao

drowsy comet
#

Discord completely bugging out wth is going on lmao

visual flume
#

Delve treasure map

lusty grotto
#

discord is having outages lil gup

ivory barn
#

Discord finally started

lusty grotto
ivory barn
#

We are considered a large guild now monkahmm

lusty grotto
#

unfortunate wording, i think they meant community servers

lofty warren
undone beacon
#

We are a large guild indeed peepo

frosty mango
stoic hound
#

phew I though I was banned in mage's discord despite messaging there two years ago

ivory barn
stoic hound
#

looks like it is fixed now

undone beacon
#

"Non-Disruptive Tuning
Brewmaster is a little bit ahead right now..."

#

Thank you Paul Kubit

lusty grotto
#

every day my hope for wow players fades out more

#

poor brews

severe star
#

got mythic gaze with a bonus roll and it has leech

lusty grotto
#

god help they have a meta season

frosty mango
#

two rolls on my monk, the only two items I DIDNT need

#

big sad

lusty grotto
lofty warren
mighty valley
undone beacon
#

This was going to be Bear's season nim

lusty grotto
#

bears have had more meta seasons

undone beacon
#

I wouldnt be happy if pwarr was meta either peepohide

lusty grotto
#

well of course, i wouldnt be happy either

undone beacon
#

I wanted big bear season raaaaaa

lusty grotto
#

im sure peak mods/admins are also not happy

tribal wharf
#

how bad is the emmisarry when it appears 0 to 5

#

like as a threat to the group

undone beacon
#

7

ivory barn
#

Tank tuning needs to happen to all but brew

tribal wharf
#

oh, so its kill it with fire immediately

undone beacon
#

I mean it typically gets cleaved down but if it isnt killed mobs get dr+bonus damage so

#

Also killing it gives 20% vers(?) iirc

lofty warren
#

Found it, I usually ignore tally-essin since he does casual content. Imo I hope they hit brew with a 5% dps nerf and 10% tankiness nerf and give 10% dps to pwar. Also let bears get aggro in aoe pls

lusty grotto
#

how about... tank tuning does not need to happen and yall need to stop being little bitches

#

thats my toxic take today, you're welcome everybody

undone beacon
#

I'll forever play my pwarr cuz i love my pwarr, it is what it is

frosty mango
undone beacon
#

But I don't think its out of line to say it would be nice if the other tanks were a little more beefy

lofty warren
#

Since "tankiness" is super hard for us small Brian's to calculate, we can look at dps and see that brew is doing a lot of dps. Buff pwar dps to match of nerf brew down to be with everyone else

frosty mango
#

I really think people fail to understand that blizzard is not looking at the data we are looking at

frosty mango
#

And they are not balancing based on wcl +20 keys

lofty warren
#

Qhat data is blizz looking at?

lusty grotto
#

i havent typed "seinfeld leave" in the gif search as fast as i did when i saw what pepega wrote

undone beacon
#

imagine not having it at the top of your favorites

lusty grotto
#

just beating my own gif search records

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

i would have too many favorites though sadge

lofty warren
#

Ok fine. What would you do for tuning?

frosty mango
#

Gifdeck?

undone beacon
#

I gotta weed out my favorited gifs i have too many

lusty grotto
frosty mango
#

They’re cheap on fb market

#

All the failed streamers selling off their gear

lusty grotto
#

fb market deadge

#

i havent had fb for over a decade

frosty mango
#

Hey man I get so many good deals on fb market I just gotta make sure I’m not driving into Baltimore to get it

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

i fled the boomerbook thing before it even started

undone beacon
#

i need to hit up fb marketplace theres some wild shit on there

frosty mango
#

My profile exists but I have like 5 friends which is basically my kid and her friends parents for messenger

frosty mango
undone beacon
#

i made a facebook when i was like 13 and made my picture a clipart skeleton and only log in to look at marketplace once every 6 months lmao

frosty mango
#

All the rich kids in Loudoun selling nice shit cheap

undone beacon
#

Real and true

#

Loudoun my behated

lusty grotto
#

seriously though, it actually feels better keeping up with friends outside of knowing everything through social media

#

everytime i reconnect with someone im filled with massive amounts of news

frosty mango
undone beacon
#

I'm really shit at keeping up with people, i gotta reach out to people again but then i fall asleep and forget sadgers

#

My only social media is discord keks

frosty mango
#

Social media is a plague on society and it should be erased from existence

#

Discord is a communication medium not really social media

undone beacon
#

I guess I lurk on reddit shitposting subs that counts

lofty warren
#

Upcoming tank tuning note just dropped!

  • Mt: aoe stomp damage buffed by 20%
  • Col: demolish damage buffed by 20%
    Warrior: shield slam damage buffed by 5% and added affect "each shield slam reduced avatar cd by 1 second"

Brew:

  • purifying brew removes half the stagger it previously did
  • keg smash dps reduced by 50%
lusty grotto
#

yeah pretty much disc is my only one as well, sometimes i do watch some instagram reels just to burn time but thats about it, no friends or family tied to it

undone beacon
#

I reinstall insta for every other partner because they want to do stuff on it but then we break up and i delete it again

lusty grotto
#

lol

plush tendon
#

I have instagram, but I carfully monitor who Im friends with on there

#

I have... 4 right now

undone beacon
#

The exalted 4

plush tendon
#

they send the best memes

frosty mango
#

I miss aim

#

We need to bring back aim and Winamp

#

Am I dating myself?

lusty grotto
#

ehh

#

i dont miss winamp tbh

undone beacon
#

I avoid tiktok like the plague, but people keep sending them to me and i have to watch them on cellular data because i have it blocked on my home network

plush tendon
#

heck, I dont even have my GF on my instagram

undone beacon
#

Tell her to get better memes

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

im fine with spotify, probably the only service i dont really mind paying for

frosty mango
#

I had so many mp3s

lusty grotto
#

same

#

i still do

plush tendon
frosty mango
#

Tho their library isn’t as good as Amazon or Spotify

undone beacon
#

When i was a wee lad I'd use youtube -> mp3 converters to download music, then upload it into itunes, then manually import them into my shitty iphone peepo

plush tendon
#

Spotify Premium is worth it.... I spend so much time driving and listening to music

#

that it more then compensates for the cost

lusty grotto
undone beacon
#

Then i was a Pandora kid for a while

autumn heron
#

Spotify Premium more important than netflix

plush tendon
#

Netflix was dropped long ago

undone beacon
#

Then switched to spotify because Pandora didnt have the vocaloid artist i wanted to listen to

frosty mango
plush tendon
#

I only get it when something good comes out

#

Amazon Prime is honestly goated

frosty mango
#

Amazon Music honestly has the best catalog, they have literally everything

undone beacon
#

netflix be damned

lusty grotto
#

understandable roid, but i have some very obscure music taste and if tidal does not carry certain genres then its a deal breaker

#

spotify seems to have most of it, and if i cant find it, i have the mp3s

autumn heron
#

....what does that even mean 👀

undone beacon
#

nim is listening to vocaloids all day

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

im just too lazy to load up the NAS etc

plush tendon
#

Nim listens to South East African Viking Rap

lofty warren
#

Yt premium for music app + no adds in yt

frosty mango
#

I have a pretty wide range of taste Nim might have me beat though

frosty mango
undone beacon
#

I just listen to folk punk and lesbian pop peepo

autumn heron
#

Idk what to say to that. GL mixing african rap with nordic sounds ?

frosty mango
#

Some of the shit my daughter listens to is genuinely decent, some of it is terrible

plush tendon
#

you just dont get it

lusty grotto
#

lmao

frosty mango
#

The Hu (stylized as The HU; pronounced as "the who") is a Mongolian folk metal band formed in 2016 in Ulaanbaatar. Incorporating traditional Mongolian instrumentation, including the morin khuur, the tovshuur, and throat singing, the band calls their style of music "hunnu rock", a term inspired by the Xiongnu, an ancient nomadic empire based in M...

#

I f with the hu

undone beacon
plush tendon
lofty warren
lusty grotto
#

i mean mongolian war cries go hard

autumn heron
#

Yeaaah i... need an example

lusty grotto
#

i havent actually listened to those guys though

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

but off the top of my head, the 3rd dune's trailer had a good mongolian throat singing and it sounded really good

frosty mango
autumn heron
#

I think my music Taste is just too simple

frosty mango
#

Lately smart devices have been getting smarter and breaking if you black hole ads so I’ve been redirecting to a local and returning a 200 so they think it succeeded

#

Samsung is sheisty as shit when it comes to on device ads

#

My Samsung fridge has a screen and it actually has Samsung ads loaded to the local storage it will play if it can’t get out to the net which is insane when you think about it

lofty warren
frosty mango
lofty warren
#

What about 2nd q

frosty mango
# lofty warren What about 2nd q

Usually that is just looking that the ad was resolved and if you redirect the traffic and return the expected http codes it will go along on its merry way

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Most people can’t set things like this up, it’s my job so I know how to do these things but I think the bigger take away is you shouldn’t need to be what is essentially a network engineer to stop getting blasted with ads in your home

autumn heron
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How far behind is col to thane?
Thane is boring to play

lusty grotto
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in ST it beats thane by 1%

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in AOE its under by 4%

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so play what you want

opal lodge
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question does heroic Gaze of alnseer beat myythic track heart of the wind ?

lusty grotto
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thats a question easily answered by simming

opal lodge
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i never sim ahha 😛

lusty grotto
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well today is a good day to start

opal lodge
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haha

frosty mango
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We seem to be at an impasse

opal lodge
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thats alright ill sim it but to manyy choices in vault this week

frosty mango
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We could give you an answer, but it would be a complete guess

autumn heron
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Since i just use my arms gear and play offtank i have way more crit than Haste. Probably better to go col then due to statweights

autumn heron
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Dunno about that. Thane usually loves haste. Ill never have enough haste to even specc into fray, sooo..
Guess ill just sim and find out