protection

[plush tendon]

wait for a sale and get a couple if Im in the race/faction swap mood

[undone beacon]

Are PTR realms still up? I might go mess around with it there if they are

[plush tendon]

they should be

or make a trial toon

[lusty grotto]

just buy a gleeful glamour smh my head

[undone beacon]

ptr realms are goated for messing with race swap vibes

since theyre free there

[plush tendon]

yea, I like PTR or Trial toon

or I make a new character and start leveling

[lusty grotto]

gleeful glamour 1hr duration 2hr cd, you can do 2hrs with reflecting prism, and of course atomic recalibrator

[plush tendon]

like I have 2 dwarf warriors who havnt reached max level

I have my main warrior Bjorn (whos human)

I have my 2nd warrior Bjoing

and I have my 3rd warrior Bjornbeard

[sharp gale]

Gnome nelf gnome, for my warriors

[plush tendon]

oh and I have a level 50 warrior of every allied race

for the achievement

[sharp gale]

4th is velf but still has not gone out of lemix

[unkempt hazel]

I like having a hunter called zulgolas, he has a pet named jinli

[fringe mural]

You like viking names don't you?

the knockback from drac is also very nice

can you use it to reset the skyreach bleed or is the duration too short?

or not bleed but

Talons

[plush tendon]

when I made my warrior, I was super into vikings

and the viking/norse theme works super well for Warriors

[sharp gale]

Meanwhile i imagine my characters as the same gnome at different step of his life

[balmy narwhal]

did they remove berserker shout abiility to remove speed impairing effect?

[lusty grotto]

um no

what makes you think that

[jagged pier]

no it just works on 1 movement impair

[lusty grotto]

its called fearless

[sharp gale]

You have to take the talent

You took the tremor talent

[lusty grotto]

shout never had snare removal

[balmy narwhal]

oooh ty

[fluid widget]

Now if we could get avatar to remove roots again that’d be nice

[sharp gale]

Be gnome or have bladestorm/ be slayer

[fluid widget]

Protection should have bladestorm

With a car door

[lusty grotto]

no

we've had it before

[fluid widget]

Blunt trauma storm

[plush tendon]

now hold up

[lusty grotto]

and it was dumb and stupid

[fluid widget]

Wait really

What xpac?

[sharp gale]

SL

[fluid widget]

Damn didn’t play that one, wild

[plush tendon]

did we have Bladestorm in SL?

[outer willow]

Do any of you nerds go for triple threat?

[plush tendon]

Im pretty sure it was Ravager

[sharp gale]

Signet leggo

[plush tendon]

well thats different

[lusty grotto]

legion

[plush tendon]

it was a random proc off our major CD

[lusty grotto]

leggo

[sharp gale]

Casted avatar / reck / bladestorm

[plush tendon]

I wouldnt mind having one of our old DPS cds back

like Droar or Ancient Aftershock

❤️

[meager needle]

Gladiator stance that would be cool

To have it back

[sharp gale]

But if you used signet leggo and you rolled 50% on the bs = you insta died bc cant block

[plush tendon]

I dont think I played War in SL until Reprisal came out

which was a immediate always use if I remember correctly

Oh. I did use The Wall early on

[fluid widget]

See I was imagining the bladestorm from the adds on AA

[flat delta]

Hi!! im new to tanking so still very confused what items are good for tank stats or not, I dont raid but I think iv gotten some good stat allocations now, what do you guys think?

[plush tendon]

damn, memories of those S1 SL dungeons

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[fluid widget]

Stat allocation isn’t real and it can’t hurt you

[lusty grotto]

we dont target stat allocation like that, we equip haste and then sim the rest

[fluid widget]

Ilvl is king, you can swap talents at a certain level of haste

1180 I think?

[plush tendon]

naw, you go above 1180

1180 is for ITF

[flat delta]

confused now

[lusty grotto]

it happens

[flat delta]

what are we simming for???

[lusty grotto]

damage

[unkempt hazel]

healing

[flat delta]

I want the "not die" stats not damage

[fluid widget]

Killing things faster

[lusty grotto]

and indirectly defensiveness

[fluid widget]

The not die part is your abilities

[lusty grotto]

then that's simming

[fringe mural]

oh btw nim, after you went to sleep i looked at my log again, and i found out two things

1: i need to face the mobs more
2: i need to spend a lot more rage

[plush tendon]

there are no 'not die stats'

not dying comes from proper play

[flat delta]

how are we simming defensive?

[plush tendon]

but we prio haste since thats how we get better SB uptime

[lusty grotto]

any gain you get from secondaries to dps, means you also get that gain to defensiveness since all tanks have dual role secondaries

so sim goes up

[fringe mural]

my sb is up like all the time i'm hit, i just need to turn my shield towards the enemy

[plush tendon]

crit/mastery/vers all provide good defensive value and therefore, simming will give you a good amount of each

[lusty grotto]

defensiveness goes up

[solid sun]

All stats have value defensively so we sim to see what provides the most damage because it’s all going to help us not die

[plush tendon]

since Prot War stats are fluid and change as you add more or less

[fringe mural]

stamina lol

[plush tendon]

its not a focus haste and X stat and ignore others

[fringe mural]

if your healer is a god that is

[flat delta]

im looking to take less damage XD

[plush tendon]

there will be a natural balance of all 4 you will get which youll know by simming your toon

[lusty grotto]

then sim

[unkempt hazel]

u take less damage by pressing buttons good

[lusty grotto]

is there anything you dont understand of what i'm saying

[flat delta]

maybe im regarded but the stats for max damage are not the same as the stats for dying slowest

[lusty grotto]

sim goes up in damage due to secondaries means your defensiveness and tankiness ALSO goes up

[lusty grotto]

wrong

[unkempt hazel]

the only exeptions are pure dmg trinkets

[solid sun]

Is there a reason you think “stats do max damage are not the same as the stats for dying slowest”

[fringe mural]

haste -> more rage -> more ip -> less dmg taken
crit -> more parry -> less dmg taken
versa -> less dmg taken
mastery -> more crit block chance -> less dmg taken

[flat delta]

well from what iv found mastery is better for damage but worse for mitigating damage

[fringe mural]

so there is no secondary stat that doesnt increase survivability

[lusty grotto]

wrong

[flat delta]

maybe I am regarded

[lusty grotto]

yes youre very regarded

[jagged pier]

well it might be for him if he has like 0 mastery

[unkempt hazel]

lmao

[plush tendon]

naw, you're just new

[loud rune]

not very nice to regard him like that

[plush tendon]

[fringe mural]

also more haste means better sb uptime and having cds more often

[unkempt hazel]

ur just overthinking

is all

[plush tendon]

^

[fringe mural]

that is why haste stronk

[plush tendon]

focus on game play, equip cool stuff, and youll be fine

[flat delta]

mastery is my lowest at 271, iv got 1013 haste

[plush tendon]

thats alright

[loud rune]

tbh, none of yall tried the int mainstat build yet, thats the best you can run

[plush tendon]

keep focusing on haste

[lusty grotto]

idk why someone would go out of their way to say "regarded"

like its obvious what youre trying to say

[plush tendon]

it wont be till like late season 2 or season 3 where we stop full sending on haste

[fringe mural]

to trick filters

[flat delta]

side note, I fuckin love this trinket

[plush tendon]

we just dont have enough stats in S1 to have to make those decisions

[plush tendon]

[fringe mural]

sometimes you get banned by saying the actual word

[loud rune]

imma do it

[undone beacon]

tiktok ahh censorship regarded dihh ahh mfers ong ong fr no cap

[lusty grotto]

no shit

but why would you do it

[jagged pier]

u shouldnt, but okay

[lusty grotto]

just choose another word

[flat delta]

it heals for 1m+ on bigger pulls 😄

[lusty grotto]

its cringe af

[unkempt hazel]

its a good trinket

for brew

[fringe mural]

that assumes he knows one

[undone beacon]

Its like the guy who preferred Champ Ultradon Curiass to myth Solar Core Igniter

[unkempt hazel]

poopyhead

[fringe mural]

intellectually impaired is nice

[lusty grotto]

thats a good one

[undone beacon]

cringe ass nae nae baby

[naive ravine]

67

[flat delta]

the ultradon can be nice while you learn, its like a "oh shit" button haha

[loud rune]

hello im back from my 1min timeout

[plush tendon]

im gonna get McDs today

I was a good boy and made lunch

but I really want a McChicken

[unkempt hazel]

lmao

same

[plush tendon]

[unkempt hazel]

not same

[naive ravine]

Hello back from my 1min timeout

[undone beacon]

im gonna skip lunch today methinks

[unkempt hazel]

I need me that BEEF

[plush tendon]

[fringe mural]

for real?

[plush tendon]

eat Protein

[loud rune]

mccrispy as menu and on the side a double cheeseburger

[plush tendon]

protein make you strong

[loud rune]

yes.

[unkempt hazel]

ill take double fries too

[undone beacon]

i need to stay weak and supple

[loud rune]

we had to give it a shot

[fringe mural]

what an evil word

man

[unkempt hazel]

technically speaking this is also avoiding the filter

ban him

[plush tendon]

naw, you need to get biggie bag

[unkempt hazel]

[loud rune]

[naive ravine]

It litteraly is an evil word and should not be used

[plush tendon]

McChicken, nuggies, drink, and small fry for like $5

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-low-tier-god-ltg-gif-4022085103641635431

[loud rune]

nono

we had a big debate about that recently

if you go to mcdonalds, you need to have beef and bird

[plush tendon]

bro, what else do you get

[loud rune]

not only bird

[unkempt hazel]

im getting bk's

[undone beacon]

small fry
That shit is like 4 fries at my mcds

[undone beacon]

wtf

[unkempt hazel]

their big fries are tiny

[undone beacon]

ban him

[plush tendon]

I dont like McDs burgers anymore

[flat delta]

Got into making pasta lately, this guy makes it look so easy and honestly it is, if you like to cook I highly recommend him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkmP2hcIPnM

[plush tendon]

if Im getting beef, its wendys

[pastel summit]

Small.

[plush tendon]

😮

I made pasta last night

with Sausage

[loud rune]

usually big tasty bacon menu + 9 piece nuggets or 20 piece nuggets with 1 mcdouble

[undone beacon]

you'll fit right in here

[fringe mural]

brother

use real meat ffs

sausage

[warm plinth]

I don't mind a whopper now and then but most of BK food is trash

[fringe mural]

wtf

[plush tendon]

naw, Sausage was on sale

[flat delta]

I like ultradon crassis though

[plush tendon]

$3 for 6

[unkempt hazel]

I cringed so hard at that ceo video I no longer can respect myself for going mcd's

[flat delta]

[pastel summit]

Imagine that was their best take too

[lusty grotto]

too bad, there's better trinkets like solar core and globule

[unkempt hazel]

lmao

[pastel summit]

Guy coughing then spitting out their "product"

[warm plinth]

And burger king nuggets are a crime against humanity

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/stopbeingpoor-poor-broke-gif-21552270

[pastel summit]

Magine how bad the other cuts were

[unkempt hazel]

I can't help but to think why do it at all

[plush tendon]

in this economy, we are all poors

[unkempt hazel]

atp

[loud rune]

i ate burgerking in 2020, got norovirus was 3 weeks shooting liquids in all directions, 2 months later the "german burgerking health exposure" video dropped, never again since

[fringe mural]

the seat trinket is ass right?

the def one

[flat delta]

is joke lol I dont raid though, the pugs make me feel sub human when they disband

[pastel summit]

Yuh, for real.

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-more-needless-spending-randy-marsh-south-park-s13e3-margaritaville-gif-22863355

[warm plinth]

Isn't norovirus just a cold lol

[pastel summit]

Too many yesmans saying it's a good idea ig

[lusty grotto]

none of those are raid trinkets

[pastel summit]

Instead of yo boss this is gonna get attention in a bad way

[warm plinth]

Oh I'm thinking rhinovirus

[flat delta]

thought solar core was... I gotta look now

[warm plinth]

Nvm

[naive ravine]

Bloodscale from shadowlands

[warm plinth]

Norovirus looks unfun

[loud rune]

noro is endboss for the stomach system

[undone beacon]

its ok to be wrong, just dont tell people ultradon is better than the best defensive trinket option and there wont be an issue

[naive ravine]

Bis

[loud rune]

def unfun

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonald's-ceo-big-arch-burger-chris-kempczinski-mcdonald-gif-4598109141364457333

[upbeat plover]

No longer an emissary

[flat delta]

just looked it up, sweet trinket, smaller shield than ultradon though

😉

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-meme-public-weird-gif-26930365

[upbeat plover]

Think you weren't when I here last but ah well

[jagged pier]

BIG BITE FOR A BIG ARCH

[lusty grotto]

skyreach for solar core, pit for globule

[plush tendon]

I dont know If I can trust a fast food CEO like that

[warm plinth]

Ngl the big arch is quite good though

[unkempt hazel]

STOP

[undone beacon]

I'm a picmixer now. I make art

[flat delta]

LOVE PIT its best dung

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496228825682415767/picmix.com_13676758.gif

[naive ravine]

Has half the cd and gived mainstat and best case vers

[flat delta]

XD

[upbeat plover]

Is that an AI prompter kind of a role?

[flat delta]

the bait works every time

[lusty grotto]

smaller shield but partial and shorter cooldown, so its superior

[warm plinth]

Not eating it though because 1k calories for a single burger is nutty

[undone beacon]

No every picmix is made by hand with love

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496932144298197103/picmix.com_13681479.gif

[flat delta]

one other thing, I saw on the wow head guide I think it shows wearing 5 set is BIS??

[lusty grotto]

use the icy-veins guide

we dont do wowhead anymore

[naive ravine]

Who even is that pumps guy?

[lusty grotto]

we cannot support the wowhead guide anymore

or for now

[flat delta]

says 6 pieces is BIS lol

[unkempt hazel]

what happen

[lusty grotto]

yes well

[undone beacon]

6pc

[lofty warren]

I dont myth raid, have mythic heart from ws dung & crafted weapons.

I dont have myth trinket or weapons from skyreach.

Given that i shoild target weapons/trinkets for bonus rolls - is there any reason why using them on skyreach is wrong?

[lusty grotto]

bis lists are bis lists

you sim

read the fine print

[undone beacon]

we dont have a guide writer, someone who doesnt play pwarr is filling in

[unkempt hazel]

😔

[upbeat plover]

They're all Brews now

[lofty warren]

Is it confirmed that the 298 upgrade on crafted will only go to 295?

[brisk cloud]

is it really that bad? imo pwarr is prob 2nd best overall tank

[upbeat plover]

Think 295

[undone beacon]

pwarr isnt bad, brew is just unbelievably cracked

[lusty grotto]

4pc (no tier gloves), the boots/belt don't add up for the tier bonus despite being catalyst items

[plush tendon]

Brew is just the tank of choice this season

[undone beacon]

Skyreach is a good target dungeon

[upbeat plover]

Think it's brew, then bear, then the rest is just shrug who cares

[plush tendon]

there is always one

[flat delta]

theres a 298 option? isnt that above mythic??

[plush tendon]

why bear?

[pastel summit]

fat alcoholic spec 2tanky

[plush tendon]

is it for the damage? or just druid util

[lofty warren]

Petko tier list says best tanks for m+ = brew > bear > pwar = ppal > whoever else is left

[pastel summit]

cos incarn does 900k dps on big pull

[upbeat plover]

I just hear they doin alright

[pastel summit]

otherwise bear is eh

[plush tendon]

I can see that

[upbeat plover]

Think it was archon ordering?

[loud rune]

the build from this video, is that something in general worth to run like that in higher keys? i mean killing the dmg by removing apex points and redistribute them seems to make sense since survivalbility is higher like that, but i might be wrong, so i was wondering is there any other build for higher keys like the icy veins one just with other builds, or is it like in the video the "best" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRUTIX0BOZI

[lofty warren]

Bear does lots of dps and pwar is low dps

[lusty grotto]

holy fucking spam

[lusty grotto]

no, we do not

[lofty warren]

Reacted with

[lusty grotto]

any build that is not 4/4 apex is banned in here

[plush tendon]

looks like every tank is within the margin of error on Archon

except brew

[loud rune]

why's so?

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/facepalm-really-3--k01KQ7R6HYQPEY4TXKPBXC5KXBY

[lofty warren]

I bet the low dps pwar logs are bc ppl are using bsv talent and not the max dps talents

[fringe mural]

being 10%?

[lusty grotto]

just when i thought the questions would be over about 1/4 apex

[upbeat plover]

Yeah, realistically it's brew then who cares
I think when I saw it was Brew S, Bear A rest B

[pastel summit]

What do you mean by this

[loud rune]

they would start again

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496932144298197103/picmix.com_13681479.gif

[lusty grotto]

read #protection message

[fringe mural]

as long as the streamer bois do it, they will return

take the fight to them

[plush tendon]

yea, thats my take. If you are pushing IO, just play Brew

I still havnt gotten my brew to 90, but I have no intention of playing monk anyways

[rapid pelican]

I just switched from bear, it's boring af compared to warr

[plush tendon]

Instead I started leveling a bear XD

[pastel summit]

That's just keys, you get the 1 good tank then the 1-2 good healers then the 3-4 dps.

[lofty warren]

On icy veins iy says to use some talents and those are the ones that dps the most dps. If you look at archon recommended it says to use other talents. Archon pulls from high keys and ik those keys ppl are using talents that are more defensive like dps. More defensive picks = lower dps bc you cant have everything

[plush tendon]

idk, somtimes they get tank balance pretty good

[pastel summit]

A spec can be good enough assuming you have a group but most people pug

[plush tendon]

like last season it was a 'prot war' season

but prot pal was super viable

along with brew

[unkempt hazel]

ok so only brew is viable for anything abovve + 4

got it

[plush tendon]

yea

100%

[upbeat plover]

Ah this is it. If you change the drop down box from 7-21, to high keys it looks like this

[unkempt hazel]

tuff times!

[naive ravine]

Its also painful to watch that guy play

[loud rune]

why are all the good explainations not pinned

[lofty warren]

My pwar I've been trying more and only 3.2k on my brew alt got to 3.2k without even really trying just doing 8x dungeons per week

[naive ravine]

I think he dumps all his rage into ip perma

[plush tendon]

yea, I see it

but I think putting bear A is a diservice to them

everyone should be in B

minus Brew

[undone beacon]

Should I skip lunch today or should I get something from the lunch special menu at the local Mexican spot

[upbeat plover]

Long story short, #buffbrew

[plush tendon]

No skip meals

get food

[upbeat plover]

Skip, fatty

[plush tendon]

you need protein

[undone beacon]

[fringe mural]

he's gay, he's sexy

[oak ivy]

Get food, protein good

[fringe mural]

get food

[naive ravine]

Dont get food

[lofty warren]

Since brew has never been best tank in m+ blizz has announced they will be best tank for all of midnivht. If ppl complain enough then maybe only for season 1

[loud rune]

never skip the protein

[undone beacon]

That’s 4-2, food shall be acquired

[oak ivy]

Good

[plush tendon]

S3 of BFA was a brew season

just so happens that S3 of BFA was awful

[naive ravine]

Mine was sarcasm

[upbeat plover]

I am fine with this. I like stagger

[naive ravine]

But you couldnt hear

[upbeat plover]

It cool

[lofty warren]

The blizz default stagger colors are so annoying. In keys i am always red which totally makes having diff colors useless

[plush tendon]

id be a little worried as a brew moving forward

they prob dont stay as BiS M+ tank in future seasons

[oak ivy]

Gotta get one of those UI's that shows actual stagger%

[plush tendon]

and they are pretty meh in a raid setting

[naive ravine]

Brew has its places in raid for the buff

[plush tendon]

its a buff bitch

[naive ravine]

But thats not depending on his own tuning

Mostly

[undone beacon]

If they gave Pwarr a natty bleed removal do you think that’d jump em up in rankings

[plush tendon]

the real question is.... which tank is getting a .7 glow up

[undone beacon]

I don’t wanna be a stinky dwarf

[plush tendon]

they always choose one and always overshoot the tuning

[naive ravine]

I think p pal

[flat delta]

Did we get anything in .5? I didnt see that we did

[plush tendon]

I might scream if its Prot Pal... again

[oak ivy]

we were going to get nerfed but they changed their mind

[naive ravine]

P pal util is just that good

[lusty grotto]

colossus got buffed

[oak ivy]

oh tru

[plush tendon]

Im hoping for BDK and Rogue

[undone beacon]

“12.0.7 Changes
-Blood DK
-Death Strike now works how it used to. Have fun”

[naive ravine]

[upbeat plover]

I got kicked from a 17 AA cuz I wasn't a dwarf. They racist

[flat delta]

My old friend said they always nerf prot warrior

[plush tendon]

you have no idea how much of a buff that would be

[upbeat plover]

I can live that pull without bleed removal

[undone beacon]

[upbeat plover]

ragey

[plush tendon]

first mistake, doing a key above a 12

[lofty warren]

Yes that is what I do but its annoying having a big red box what communicates 0 information

[plush tendon]

[oak ivy]

Valid

[upbeat plover]

Buh buh, they made a 3.4k saddle and 1% mount

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bait-clickbait--k01KQ7S4G6M06ECRK3EE0W22A5N

[oak ivy]

^

[lusty grotto]

"communicates 0 information"

[ivory barn]

[plush tendon]

true... I gotta start working on that

[lusty grotto]

[plush tendon]

[upbeat plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1372356491327049908/1497617919167823952/image.png?ex=69f0cfe0&is=69ef7e60&hm=369a7bea0f2219b629a6a084f5402b6826523b2c0449f3c067139eec3d382990&

[undone beacon]

3.4k saddle is a fuckin JOKE

[undone beacon]

cring ass nae nae mount

[plush tendon]

its +1 mount

bro, I dont even have 3k yet

[pastel summit]

All the key mounts are +1 mounts

[undone beacon]

i know thats why i got it

[upbeat plover]

I didn't know this channel was all CASUALS

[undone beacon]

I will have 1k this xpac

[plush tendon]

not casuals, just enlightened

I treat M+ like the minigame it is

[pastel summit]

Gladless bandit. 🗞️

[fringe mural]

damn

that hurt too close to home

[upbeat plover]

Well I made a matching mog just to celebrate the 3.4k occasion

:)

[undone beacon]

my warr is 2800 io still

[upbeat plover]

3s

[undone beacon]

My priest is 3552 tho so thats aight

[fringe mural]

sry i will cry on my amani bear

[flat delta]

Put this man on the tank banlist, good luck doing any content without us

[upbeat plover]

I'm 2900 mmr in blitz, am I finally good @pastel summit?

[pastel summit]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-clones-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-21609842

[upbeat plover]

kekw

[pastel summit]

Sold if you got that cr in the bag, though.

Getting the high mmr games in is rough.

[plush tendon]

I wish solo shuffle ques were better

takes way too long to get into a match

[upbeat plover]

I'm 1950 CR

[plush tendon]

and I just want to slam some kids in the face

[upbeat plover]

+36 a game

[upbeat plover]

Mmr is so bad in SS. Time to pack up into blitz homie

[plush tendon]

omg, Archi wrote a article about us

https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-season-1-suffers-tank-shortages-in-mythic-and-more-381388?utm_source=discord-webhook

[pastel summit]

community sitting there for 30 minutes to get a brewmaster for their +13 "competitive"

(they are 45 years old)

[upbeat plover]

If I do an M+ as a tank, give me 10kg at the end

Thanks

[plush tendon]

Ill be real, the sooner blizz just makes all the tanks gods in dungeons

[upbeat plover]

Also... I don't buy that article, I get rejected for keys my io is appropriate for, as a brew, a lot

[plush tendon]

the better off everyone will be

[pastel summit]

All non brew buffed soon pls

[upbeat plover]

Like... they want me to be 3600 for 17s i stg

[lusty grotto]

Jordan with the god tiered tweet

[pastel summit]

3600 for 17s lmfaoooo

[dusky canopy]

Huh

[pastel summit]

dps who lfg keys are mongrels

[upbeat plover]

Idk man. I'm 3468 rn and I get rejected all the time

[lusty grotto]

@crude notchgood tweet reply to maddy, love u bye

[dusky canopy]

All 17s is like 3500

[upbeat plover]

I have 3 17s, and rest 16s. And they hate me

Kick me for being an orc

SMOrc

[dusky canopy]

People are stupid bro

[plush tendon]

yea, wow players take the minigame too serious

[pastel summit]

i think people who lfg keys for 10 hours a day deserve nothing but suffering

[dusky canopy]

They suck ass so they need the best possible damage comp to carry them

[plush tendon]

[dusky canopy]

That’s exactly why I stopped wasting my life pushing io

[lusty grotto]

speaking of which

[dusky canopy]

The system is dogshit people’s mental are dogshit

[upbeat plover]

Pvpers call it the main game

Pvp is the mini game

[plush tendon]

the only main game is Tmog and collection, everything else is temporary

[undone beacon]

facts

[dusky canopy]

Raid is life bro

[undone beacon]

everything else is a vehicle to the main game

[dusky canopy]

Idk

[lusty grotto]

i like how peak turned around the meta and fotm rerolling avalanche in their discord

[dusky canopy]

I’ll never be a dungeon hero again

[plush tendon]

raid? I raid for cool items, mog and achievements

[undone beacon]

Raid fucking sucks

I sit there with my thumb up my ass for 3 hours pulling bosses and hoping people dont fuck up for 5 minutes straight

[upbeat plover]

Raiding really annoys me this expac

Got 6/9 H and stopped

[wooden lily]

Thid factually true. Even worse when its longer then 5 mins

And I say this as a dps main

[undone beacon]

Tank points the gloom wrong 5 minutes into dragons? whoop de dooooo

Healer cant make it to me to dispel fear? whoop de doooo

[fringe mural]

i mean i'm a teacher what i can i say, i'm used to telling 25 idiots what to do for 4 hours straight

[wooden lily]

Adds can be gripped or kicked in dreamrift whoop de doo

[dusky canopy]

Why would I spend 6-8 hours on a Saturday applying to io keys and maybe getting to attempt half of them if not less while also failing half of the half I even get in when I could instead be smoothing over my wife with my time which leads to a great night

The math ain’t mathing

Forget that nonsense bro

[lusty grotto]

"hey look rat is posting something interesting, nah lets talk about the good ole raid is boring thing that's been talked about before!"

[undone beacon]

Just wait for some buds to get their resils and then run their keys

[pastel summit]

Everybody figures this out eventually.

[dusky canopy]

Yee exactly

[pastel summit]

Gear is a means.

[undone beacon]

I'm sure they still get a million questions a day asking the same shit though

[lusty grotto]

aight

[undone beacon]

but its a good sentiment

[plush tendon]

yea, other tank discords arent as much fun

talking about silly things

[undone beacon]

idk i just dont have much to say about that lol

[plush tendon]

when im more interested if Pash is getting lunch

[undone beacon]

Gotta do this VOID INCURSION and then i will

[lusty grotto]

opening skyhold today feels like groundhog day

[sharp gale]

They have the same iterations of questions as us with ITF/hr or stuff like that, nothing surprising

[lusty grotto]

same topics

same discussions

nothing changes

[undone beacon]

When is it not

What do you wanna talk about Nim

[sharp gale]

Circles stay circly forever

[fringe mural]

anyone wanna run abundance for 7 toons for me?

[pastel summit]

Nim always seems ticked off

[lusty grotto]

race discussions, food discussions, tier lists linked

[oak ivy]

I swear skyhold has an inordinate amount of gymbros, (see: protein vote earlier)

[sharp gale]

1/4 apex

1188 haste

[lusty grotto]

at least 1/4 apex is protection warrior relevant

[plush tendon]

the most interesting thing is when someone posts a log

[pastel summit]

0 apex prob bis in blitz.

[plush tendon]

but no one is playing prot war in keys

so no logs

[dusky canopy]

Nim my goat

That’s my tank

👑

[sharp gale]

[oak ivy]

Idk how grief it is but when I want to be a coward i drop ravager & Tough as nails, have never considered 1/4

[pastel summit]

Also wonder why they remembered to apply the 50% pvp nerf to the apex 4pc bonus

actually wasn't it from abberus set

[sharp gale]

Im soon back from long weekend, I hope ill find 2 Voidcores in my bag tonight

[plush tendon]

tough as nails is ok to drop

IDK about Ravager

[terse hollow]

any world where id use double on use trinkets these days? currently running heroic lights company and champion heart of ancient hunger and just happened to roll the solar core igniter on myth and now cant figure out what my trinkets should look like

[pastel summit]

tough as nails seems to vary in usefulness between dungeons

[lusty grotto]

you will

[plush tendon]

yea, but its just damage

its a easy sac to make if you want a different talent

[pastel summit]

damage, threat and an extra broken shield

[toxic pewter]

tough as nail has become basically a staple talent in my mind

i dont see myself dropping it

[sharp gale]

The big Q is : did they reset my roll data

[naive ravine]

No need to drop rav, its a passive now

[pastel summit]

feel like its too good unless the dungeon has fewer mobs and/or fewer autoers

[oak ivy]

It's goated but sometimes I'm a pansy and want last stand

[sharp gale]

do I keep rolling in NPx

[lofty warren]

Archon recommended has tan being dropp3d

[lusty grotto]

no shame in running 2 on-use

just remember the on-use shared cd

[plush tendon]

id run heart and solerflare

[sharp gale]

When me tank, me roll with gaze + solar core

[plush tendon]

Im getting a Gaze in vault tomorrow

or im bonus rolling it

[lofty warren]

When i have pwar looy spec enabled in Skyreach it shows a different solar trinket in loot pool. Is that other one any good

[oak ivy]

I lucked into myth heart and gaze, so those are kinda locked in

[plush tendon]

I swear If I dont ima crash out mid raid

[terse hollow]

id like to have gaze for sure but warrior is alt, not really raiding

[fringe mural]

everytime i delve into my logs you turn me down 🙁

[frosty mango]

I drop tough as nails as thane but tbh I would never drop it as colossus

Just too valuable

[sharp gale]

I have enough will to mythic pug once a week

But 2 would melt by brain

[fringe mural]

so i looked at mwahis guide and i found something interesting

[oak ivy]

this is the "im scared give me more health" spec i play sometimes, (yes i know talents dont fix bad play but it's a bandaid)

[lusty grotto]

ok hold on

HOLD on

[lofty warren]

No whirl blade

[oak ivy]

oh god

[lusty grotto]

why would you drop

5% overall damage

instead of Enduring Alacrity

???

or Focused Vigor

[oak ivy]

enduring alacrity is thr stam haste one?

[fringe mural]

well the argument was from some guy the 4/4 apex talent only hits a few guys

because it has a really small area of effect

[sharp gale]

That’s not really a blasphemous build

[lusty grotto]

but it is

[fringe mural]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

its not as bad as 1/4 apex

but its still not well thought out

[oak ivy]

[lofty warren]

Whe 5% dr isnt target capped is it?

[sharp gale]

Tan for indom is not a hot take

[toxic pewter]

how much haste u got

[frosty mango]

Dropping apex makes no sense, there’s no quantitative basis for it

[oak ivy]

like 1450 with flask my rl hates me

[pastel summit]

the no apex ones seem weird cos they're in theory grabbing more dr stuff but isn't it not only a ton of aoe dmg and single target dmg but dr via the 5% from shield slam frontal

idk weirdge builds

[toxic pewter]

Ok was about to say if u lower haste and taking ITF would be weird in such a strange build

[lusty grotto]

it is a hot take, because there are talents right next to indom which provide much less impact, also running indom with just ONE rage intake talent (instigate) means you need to play frothing

[terse hollow]

find myself with 2 sparks and no myth 1h weapon, id be silly to craft this close to vault day right?

[pastel summit]

ya prob wait til tomorrow

and/or rolls

[sharp gale]

I DIDN’T SEE No RAVAGer

[lusty grotto]

agreed

and no ravager yea

[terse hollow]

more rolls on reset?

[pastel summit]

innit two weekly

three if u grab from vault

[terse hollow]

holy moly

[pastel summit]

plus you cant roll same pieces

so you can sort of target myth weps

[toxic pewter]

no whirling blade is basically objectively wrong in my mind

[oak ivy]

Is there a spec you could recommend that takes last stand + indom with minimal trolling

[frosty mango]

But more on the warrior topic, does anyone have any tips on gather for the first pull of pit as colossus? It’s a pretty wide pull and I find myself struggling to gather before dps go ham even when I tell them not to

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[lusty grotto]

aim your revenges

[oak ivy]

gotcha

[pastel summit]

dps holding off for 2 secs is gonna make everybody do more dmg

if you can make them understand this it can help

[frosty mango]

That’s not a problem, I am trying to get shit from down the hill too and dps is usually not able to hold off that long

[pastel summit]

oh

why include that

[frosty mango]

Just doing the top of the hill feels so troll with lust

[lofty warren]

I like to throw spear on the caster and then charge into main pack and then aoe stomp ==> avatar> aoe stomp. No threat issues

[lusty grotto]

kinda feels like the way to fix colossus is just to make revenge have 20yd range

[pastel summit]

does it feel troll

it's a decent amount of stuff up there

[lusty grotto]

the animation already fits it

[pastel summit]

that'd be nice

[frosty mango]

Yes when you have 2 dps near 1m dps and I’m doing 500-600k as the tank

It feels troll

[toxic pewter]

ngl I was enjoying colossus but certain gathering issues occurredd and just made me switch back to thane

[frosty mango]

Bc you waste half the lust walking to the next pack lol

As it stands I just play thane for that key

[lusty grotto]

yeah well

people that lust while the gathering is going are just

[frosty mango]

True and real, lol

[dusky canopy]

I love to press drums with a lust class in the group the moment the gold shield drops

[fluid widget]

I miss thunderous roar

[frosty mango]

I don’t

Felt like ass to use

[fluid widget]

It was such nice snap threat though

[frosty mango]

Didn’t bring much

[pastel summit]

mods break his legs

[frosty mango]

I’m not gonna lament much about warrior kit atm bc honestly

[pastel summit]

as if warr doesn't still suffer from "does damage in an area" abilities

[frosty mango]

We feel really good lol

[fluid widget]

Not in a giant area!

But our kit is very solid

[lofty warren]

Pwar needs a 15% aura dps buff

We down bad atm

[loud rune]

Pwar needs 360° shield
Two number 9's

[lusty grotto]

no we arent

[dusky canopy]

Yall realize you probably won’t see class balance again until 12.0.7 right?

[lusty grotto]

stop spreading misinformation

sorry brew that wasnt directed at you

cause u right

[lofty warren]

To compete with brews, id say yes they and all the other tanks would need

[undone beacon]

Pwarr needs 500% aura buff and block from all directions and shield slam should kick and we should automatically remove all debuffs

[fluid widget]

We need a class tree pruning

[dusky canopy]

Just play the game and stop giving a shit about the “meta stats”

[lofty warren]

Or brew nerf whichever

[lusty grotto]

"to compete with brews" while doing 12s

[pastel summit]

Shield warr needs buffed

[lusty grotto]

nah we're good

[fluid widget]

we’re more than fine

[toxic pewter]

what needs pruning from class tree tho

[frosty mango]

War is 100% fine, imo we are underrated vs brew

[fluid widget]

All the 2p thoroughput talents at the bottom

[undone beacon]

They should remove shields and make us a 2h parry tank and give bdk shield and call them protector blood death knights and call us parry warrior so we can still be pwarr

[fluid widget]

Let me take fun shit damnit

[lofty warren]

As brew im doing ~20k more dpa than my pwar and my brew has worse gear

[undone beacon]

[lusty grotto]

stop spreading bullshit

[dusky canopy]

Yer mom needs a 500% reduction in size

HAH GOTTEM

[undone beacon]

microscopic mother

[toxic pewter]

[frosty mango]

Brew doesn’t have more dps potential than war

People might do more dps as brew but that isn’t because it’s better

[lofty warren]

-_- its true though. Maybe if I use dps stance it would be more competitive?

[fluid widget]

Like I’d love to play with spear

[dusky canopy]

[undone beacon]

get yoself a short queen dom, call her your microscopic mommy

[lusty grotto]

it is not true

halt

cease

[lofty warren]

Ur saying that pwar does the same or more dps than brew in keys?

[frosty mango]

“Yes huh you don’t pay my sub”

[lusty grotto]

no, im saying YOU are not doing 20% more dps as a brew with less gear

especially YOU

the guy that never remembers priority lists

for that to happen, brew would have to be doing 50% more damage than prot warrior

and its not

[frosty mango]

I’m saying that, yes. A similarly geared prot war and brewmaster are going to do similar damage and if brew sees an edge it’s only going to be at the extreme end where folks are making very large pulls

[pastel summit]

Self inflicted, miserable community deserves it and worse

[fluid widget]

Just saw that too

[toxic pewter]

hasn't there been a tank shortage since day 1 though

in a way

[frosty mango]

But if you look at wcl, for example you look at a 15 key damage breakdown for tanks for like AA - there is representation of every tank pretty evenly

[fluid widget]

People are toxic though

[frosty mango]

If brews were dominant that would not be the case

[undone beacon]

Theres been a tank shortage for multiple expansions

[fluid widget]

New tank yesterday fucked up LFR chimmy and was getting railed for it

Felt bad for the new guy

[mighty valley]

brew definitely has a performance edge but i think most of the reason this season is insanely lopsided in lower keys is because it's become very easy and forgiving to play lol

[lofty warren]

You say I dont remember prio lists but I was the one that questioned the priority list and the result was that were things missing from it. Ref when I was asking about where throw spear should go and it wasn't in iv st rotstion at all

[pastel summit]

everybody back seat tanks nobody actually tanks

bunch of spineless wimps

[mighty valley]

?????? no recommended builds take spear

[lofty warren]

Throw silence spear

Not the aoe thing

[fluid widget]

What

Wrecking throw?

[toxic pewter]

he talking about wrecking throw

[mighty valley]

wrecking throw? you mean the thing we almost always use for the utility?

[fluid widget]

That’s an axe

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/fellowship-of-the-ring-fellowship-got-your-back-elijah-wood-viggo-mortensen-gif-2645844577655468458

[fluid widget]

And one of my favorite additions to the warrior toolkit

[proven moth]

how much haste do we want approx?

[toxic pewter]

see pins for haste topic

[lusty grotto]

all of it, but not at the cost of ilvl or strength

[mighty valley]

more

[undone beacon]

as much as you can get

[frosty mango]

Could also be a sword or a mace

[lofty warren]

It was NOT in the ST dps rotation. I asked where it should go and then ppl realized it should go in x spot and then mwahi added it. There was something else in the aoe prio list too I dont remember

[frosty mango]

Ironically they named the talent javelin and one handed spears don’t even exist

wtg blizz

[toxic pewter]

says i am throwing my weapon....... but ngl the animation itself appears static

[fluid widget]

Because it’s a utility button that does damage?

It’s not a rotational button

[frosty mango]

Tbf in Pepegas defense

[mighty valley]

it was forgotten about because it's like a 0.001% optimization to use it on CD in the rare cases you don't need the silence or shield break, who care

[toxic pewter]

I throw my wrecking throw usually right after i shield charge, since both 45 sec cd so try to align them

[frosty mango]

There are times when you should use it for damage

[lofty warren]

It is a utility button but it still have a place in dps rotation. Imo guide should include it if it has a place in fps rotation

[proven moth]

is stacking haste rly that good in terms of defensive troughput? surely it has a cap

[pastel summit]

Yeah.

[fluid widget]

Is shockwave in your rotation?

[toxic pewter]

well it should be used for dps actually

[pastel summit]

Not one you're really gonna run into easily.

[toxic pewter]

it does solid dam

[lofty warren]

No you dense blob. Shock does not do dps

[toxic pewter]

unless u know u gotta silence a dude

just tosss it after shield charge

[dusky canopy]

1188 haste for ITF swap, then stack crit is what I would do if I was playing Prot

[fluid widget]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

[fluid widget]

It does damage

[lofty warren]

Ohh I didnt know

[frosty mango]

Microoptimizatoons

Someone call mwahi

[lofty warren]

Should Shockwave go into aoe rotation??

[dusky canopy]

EIGHT HUNDRED

[frosty mango]

It’s not in the rotation boys

[dusky canopy]

Hollyy

[toxic pewter]

yeah but wrecking does actually do respectful amount of dam vs shockwave

should be using it on cd basically

[mighty valley]

lol no it does 20% of attack power

[solid sun]

It’s not micro okay it’s average

[mighty valley]

wrecking does 600%

[fluid widget]

Oh 100% but primarily it’s used for the shield damage and silence

[undone beacon]

tbh the damage rider on shockwave kinda messes with some stuff so i wish it didnt

its def a holdover from when they wanted shockwave to be a capstone damage talent

[fluid widget]

Outside of shield damage and silence yeah I’m sure you can use it rotationally bur that isn’t its primary purpose

[pastel summit]

When it's your turn to stop multiple casts yuh

[frosty mango]

Never understood that, shockwave as a dps talent is just poor man’s thunderclap

[pastel summit]

Ideally on page with team that you're doing it to avoid overlap

[fluid widget]

I love the Colo shockwave

[undone beacon]

they should combine shockwave and thunder clap and make every tclap stun, ez game design

[pastel summit]

missing my 2 sec spammable clap root

[lofty warren]

When talking about the dps priority all secondary effects like cc and silence should not be considered. When determining dps rotstion the only question is "does this maximize my dps"

Whether you should use your dps/utility button for dps or utility depends on the player and situation. Depends on users brian

[toxic pewter]

ngl tho kinda like how they made wrecking throw light up now when a shield/barrier is on a dude, actually helps me notice it better

[fluid widget]

Yeah it’s dope

[fluid widget]

Ok fair but if you use it rotationally and then a shield goes up, you just unoptimized your damage

[lofty warren]

If the enemy has a shield where does wrecked throw go in dps rotation? Is it more damage than ss? Thunder blast?

[frosty mango]

That’s not true, you have to think about it from the other side. If this skill gets used for utility how does that impact the rotation.

Also cooldowns come into play because while it may have a theoretical place in the prio list in reality you may never actually be in a place where youd press it

[mighty valley]

if the enemy has a shield it's top

[lament zealot]

If you aren't using it on cd for bosses then you're doing something wrong, most dungeons this season have some good shield break to be gained from it even without the silence

[toxic pewter]

this is where game knowledge /experience comes into play.. basically should know where andd when which mobs get barriers... also know which mobs u gonna silence.. between all of these events just throw it after shield charge

[fluid widget]

Imagine if you had put put this much effort into playing warrior, you’d close the gap on your BrM

[solid sun]

Just keep pressing your buttons

It’ll work itself out

[toxic pewter]

truer words have never been spoken

[frosty mango]

Rhino is so wise

[fluid widget]

Pressing Ignore pain on cd, instructions unclear now I have no rage

[frosty mango]

Rhinostrodamuceros

[solid sun]

Ty ty

[lofty warren]

Why do you use it right after shield charge if you have tb and ss available and enemy doesnt have shield up?

[lament zealot]

Is anyone here managing to pull everything before the first boss in skyreach on 17+ and live?

[fluid widget]

I bet a monk can

[frosty mango]

I did it on 16 and “live” is questionable

[lament zealot]

You can throw it while charging

[fluid widget]

[toxic pewter]

cuz i want to line it up on the 45 sec cd, personally plus it does more damage than a ss and a tb

[frosty mango]

I didn’t die per se, I also ran for my life and heroic lept off the boss platform

[lament zealot]

Can you leap back to spawn?

[frosty mango]

I lept down the stairs and ran

Then lock gated back to boss plat once they made it to me

Because I am a bitch

[mighty valley]

it does more damage than any of those, so you optimally do want to press it on CD. it just doesn't do anything else or interact with your kit in any way so it really is a tiny optimization

[lament zealot]

I'm one alg away from resil 17s

[frosty mango]

I tried to tank them and after like 15s I realized that was a very bad plan so off leaping I went

[lament zealot]

We have no lock, but noted. Maybe I just gotta kite better

[solid sun]

Roid why did you panic

[frosty mango]

Two dps got blown off the platform and the mobs were dying slowly

And I ran out of shield wall charges

Seemed like the right time to panic

[lusty grotto]

that pull is aids if you dont have coordinated cc

[solid sun]

Can’t panic. Can’t let the mobs sense fear

[lusty grotto]

but also at non 20s level is just unnecessary

[frosty mango]

I don’t think it’s worth it

[lofty warren]

This is the iv prio for st Mt. It says tb, ss, tc are all higher prio than wrecked throw. Is it wrong?

[solid sun]

:(

[toxic pewter]

you are overthinking it

[pastel summit]

many such cases

[mighty valley]

the biggest thing you should take away is that it barely matters either way. idk, i'd probably put it below tb 2 stacks so you don't waste charges but above SS. but mostly i don't think to press it because it doesn't really matter lol

[solid sun]

Pepega

I need you to live, laugh, love, and let Jesus take the keyboard

[ionic fern]

Using it in that priority nets the highest DPS.

[lofty warren]

Putting wrecking throw right above ss nets the highest dps?

[mighty valley]

pepega using any portion of your brain to optimize wrecking throw placement in your dps priority when you're getting hit in the back a ton is not optimal

[lofty warren]

Ty I didnt know and was doing it all wrong this whole time

[dusky canopy]

Pressing your buttons in the most optimal order possible nets the highest dps

The more you know

[lusty grotto]

ty for the addition

pepega, if a mob is shielded

you read the tooltip

how much does wrecking throw do?

500% more damage right? its on the tooltip

so

[opal ledge]

hey nimchip you showed me this yesterday...
and i'm thinking something that idk if makes sense.... does it matter which lasher dies first?
if the second cast lasher dies first it's better? or any lasher dying will get the same results?

[lusty grotto]

using your brain

for a second

[pastel summit]

throwing it to silence a mob so it groups better therefore doing the most overall group dps

[lusty grotto]

what would wrecking throw be in the priority if it does 6 TIMES more damage

[ionic fern]

No. Using it like it is in IV.

[lofty warren]

I know it does MORE damage idnt if its more than others (especially since some effects have hidden dps bc they give cdr). Also my question was where does wt go if enemy IS NOT shielded

[ivory barn]

Wrecking throw is a goat 🐐

[lusty grotto]

lets read the tooltips

and make an accurate assumption

[undone beacon]

why are we trying to minmax wrecking throw today

[ivory barn]

I use it to silence and drag or to delete a shield

[mighty valley]

pepega

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496932144298197103/picmix.com_13681479.gif

[lofty warren]

Ok got it thats all I need to know ty. Praise be to the correct iv guide

[grand stratus]

Can we go back to field dressing

?

That was a good one

[lusty grotto]

what about it

i mean field dressing is easily talented so what's the problem

[grand stratus]

Not a problem, just a more fun convo we had over wrecking throw 🤣

[toxic pewter]

I like field dressing

[mighty valley]

i like salad dressing

[toxic pewter]

[ivory barn]

Saladar the boss?

[lusty grotto]

field dressing over wrecking throw is very questionable

when there are other talents you can swap easily to it

so yeah i guess i'd have to read up on that one

[solid sun]

No

[ivory barn]

#news message

Well if people would stop gaslighting tanks this wouldn't be a problem

[solid sun]

It wasn’t wrecking throw vs field dressing

It was field dressing vs frothing berserker

[mighty valley]

wuh

[lusty grotto]

on the first AA pull, the priority targets are always vile lashers, if your dps isn't prioritzing them, your odds of failing that pull just skyrocket

it does not matter which order

as long as one or two die fast

[solid sun]

Someone was field dressing and not frothing and Jakey started a very minor rant about it

And then Petri vs Jakey on the topic of field dressing happened

[lusty grotto]

as long as one is dead, the bleed is super manageable and dps can easily swap to the flies

while of course juggling enrage soothes

[ivory barn]

I had DPS on a 10 actually focus lashers first. That pull went so smooth

[lusty grotto]

yeah it makes a huge difference when people prio target correctly

and moreso with an aug evoker

[undone beacon]

This can be said for just about any pull

[lusty grotto]

well sure, but cauterize

[harsh trellis]

I do like the new left side route for AA

just go in and kill vex first and go clockwise

[lusty grotto]

not new

we did it in AA 2nd iteration

[heavy sparrow]

Idk if there's actually tank shortage, just none that are expendible or you can throw around

[lusty grotto]

aka DF S4

[harsh trellis]

theres not a tank shortage, there is a brewmaster shortage

cause they are all currently busy in keys

[jagged pier]

Theres always a tank shortage its the least play role

Doesnt matter about meta

[stoic hound]

bl on boss?

[solid sun]

That’s true. There’s always a tank shortage

[harsh trellis]

Yep you can Bloodlust the boss and adds

[jagged pier]

Theres just not enough ppl playing it

[harsh trellis]

You can funnel adds right in

[heavy sparrow]

I figured that would be healers this season cause a lot of random splash damage

[jagged pier]

But plenty of dps woth tank off spec

[harsh trellis]

Give wars a shout for Bloodlust

[jagged pier]

They just dont play it

[harsh trellis]

it make sense

[undone beacon]

If I ask any of our DHs to spec into Veng they’d have an aneurysm

[heavy sparrow]

Bringing in paladin hammer swirls from Diablo 2 I don't see why not warriors would have more party buff shouts

[daring marlin]

At least one tank not bringing BL is the dumbest shit to this day.

[harsh trellis]

CANT GIVE UP PURPLE BEAMMMMMMMMMMMZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

https://klipy.com/gifs/a10warthog-plane--k01KQ7X6GJT0F1AHTBD9D5NW0SN

[dusky canopy]

The ones without Brez should get lust
But the problem is I’m selfish and I don’t want to press lust

[daring marlin]

Shamans get Skyfury+BL. Warrior should also give BL idgaf.

[jagged pier]

The tema in my guild has 2 dps warriors nithe rof them play tank, at least the dks do whent they sre forced to on bosses

But grips not a raid buff guys

[undone beacon]

[harsh trellis]

OOO

Warriors need a Grip also

[tribal wharf]

realish question

[harsh trellis]

GRIP BLOODLUST... AND BATTLE REZ

OMG

[solid sun]

Grips are a raid buff. Isn’t that what blizz said

[harsh trellis]

and 2 hander MH with a shield

[tribal wharf]

how would adds get pulled on +10 second boss seat?

1 sec

[mighty valley]

why do people want to pay two sparks for their mh craft

seems foolish to me

[harsh trellis]

cause we didnt have rolls when we used 2 sparks on our MH

and I wanted a max level MH since we werent running mythic week 1

I used sparks on my mh and shield

[mighty valley]

i'm saying if we were a 2h + shield class

[mighty valley]

then to craft weapon and shield you'd need three sparks

[tribal wharf]

about 5 seconds into the fight this happened both pulls and clearly we wiped both times, so someone called it

[mighty valley]

straight nerf

[undone beacon]

Uhm actually it’s 4 sparks, 6 if you make a shield too 🤓

[harsh trellis]

Yogi you got a log to upload

you can press replay and see

[mighty valley]

pash i'm old i can't keep up with all these new fangled changes

[tribal wharf]

i'll just sum it up as i suspect it was an alts run

[undone beacon]

This screenshot is nigh incomprehensible lmao

[tribal wharf]

my log thingy was one of the addons i've been turning off this week

[wooden lily]

Turning off logs. Blasphemy

[tribal wharf]

it automatically aggregates new logs

for keys

[toxic pewter]

give warriors the ability to summon people

XD

[pastel stone]

How do y'all do the beginning of pulls? When you're still collecting everything and moving into the "final" position.

Because It feels like that's the only time I ever come close to death as Prot. After that the healer can usually ignore me for the most part

[undone beacon]

Shield Wall

[pastel stone]

yeah i usually have that up and running

[lusty grotto]

you need to reduce the amount of back hits you take

on a gather its pretty easy to forget about taking them

[fringe mural]

you also can use heroic throw a lot

Let them come to you

Range is great

it tried the first pull in seat multiple times yesterday and just charging the first pack and throwing the other two works really nice

[lusty grotto]

in seat?

no

[tribal wharf]

this pack pulled somehow

[lusty grotto]

in seat you charge left, and waddle right

or you risk a charge

and get bled out

[fringe mural]

i thought they only charge after they are at you already

i tried it like 6 times
In m0 to test the mechanic

[lusty grotto]

they charge when they are at a distance from you

[fringe mural]

they came running all the time

[lusty grotto]

if you range pull

they will charge

[frosty mango]

I’ve met my quota of fucks today, I don’t want to work anymore, someone trade me

[oak ivy]

i love seeing screenshots of other ppls keybinds and how different they are from mine

[fringe mural]

well that's weird then because i was standing right in front of the middle pack and heroic throwing the other two from there

No charge

[lusty grotto]

thats a safe distance

but from one side to the other, its not

[fringe mural]

ah

so i'm not far enough

for them to charge

i see

[fringe mural]

I really want to optimize mine

[oak ivy]

mine are probably horrific

[fringe mural]

i feel like i am using revenge far too often because it is at my right thumb

and ss is at 3 which is why i don't use it that often while moving

because pressing 3 while moving is harder

[oak ivy]

1-6 is:
Ss Tclap IP revenge (empty) scharge

q leap, E shield block

[tribal wharf]

want to buy battle rage

give battle rage

[fringe mural]

it doesn't matter one bit to me where the keybinds are when i stand

but once i move

[oak ivy]

spellsteal it gg

[fringe mural]

some are just harder to press

i'm not a pianist