protection

[gaunt thunder]

im starting to do +15 and it worked just fine in +14 but not really in +15

[coral kite]

Does this include the big bird at the start?

Theres 3 big birds total I think at the first platform

[dusky sentinel]

Hey guys. How good is the Ampole of pure void trinket? LIke. It seems very good on high density dungeons but Ive never seen it drop. And wondering if I should try my bonus on that or go for the Hearth. I never raid. So m+ focused

[gaunt thunder]

Usually i dont pull the first bird but recently people started to pull it for me and die right after

[coral kite]

Well if you didnt ask them to pull it then thats on them I guess

[gaunt thunder]

its pug so "tank is bad gl go next"

i will try sky reach in two pull then ty !

[gaunt thunder]

If you are looking for a defensive trinket i recommend Rotting Globule in PoS, Ampole of pure void just seems to do a really bad job

[dusky sentinel]

Just thought Ampole was good for both dmg and def.

But guess ur right

[jagged pier]

No

[shy python]

?

[ionic fern]

Data aggregation pages are not something to follow blindly without thought.

[shy python]

Thats why I'm asking 🙂

[jagged pier]

Still dont get why they arent playing the bukdl with 4 apex and thosr tslents that does more dsmagr and is tsnkier

[mental scarab]

So they just take all the talents that incrs stamina

Is this babyverastackingffombfawithbrokencorruptopns

[coral kite]

Btw why don't we take Indomitable?

[shy python]

At least Tough as Nails does a ton of dmg for a single pointer

[coral kite]

I just came back to the game last week

I remember it was pretty strong back then

[sage valve]

Is Turalyon's False Echo actually BIS or is Blade of the Final Twilight better?

I keep seeing conflicting BIS lists

[jagged pier]

We take in the build im talking about

[fringe mural]

There's 2

[jagged pier]

Because its bad

[fringe mural]

i think i pulled all two at the second pull once because i forgot it at the first one

[shy python]

ahh right

[fringe mural]

it hurt, but was doable

is field dressing valuable?

like really

compared to for example second wind

[jagged pier]

We looked into yesterday

[fringe mural]

i use second wind a lot for outdoor and solo content when i don't have a healer and it's great

[jagged pier]

And i honestly cant see a usr for field dressing

Maybe high npx left side

The 3% may make a dofference

[fringe mural]

hm yeah

[coral kite]

Okey dokey

[jagged pier]

But not really

[fringe mural]

But then you just last stand for the heavy packs imo

way more value

[jagged pier]

Yer but it can help for when u dont have sw for it

[fringe mural]

mhm

[jagged pier]

Npx is also ls's niche

[fringe mural]

i still don't know where to put the point of second wind/field dressing

Speed maybe

the 5% are nice

[jagged pier]

Like the spell mod aura dont effect ip so it effects IV second wind probably some other small things it just does not much

Frothing beserkrr

Refund rage yes please

[fringe mural]

true

Does it work with revenge! ?

or do you get zero

[shy python]

16% looks not THAT bad

[jagged pier]

Right but thats not 5% dr

Which ppl drop to get it

[woeful frigate]

So they drop apex 4 to get indom? wild

[jagged pier]

To get ls bsv and indom

[fringe mural]

They could drop enduring alacrity or bloodborne

[jagged pier]

Which u can get 1 maybe 2 without dropping apex at all

[fringe mural]

but why tf would you drop 5% dr

[jagged pier]

U can get all 3 and not drop aoex

But u loose some rage gen

So indom become worse right off thw bat

[fringe mural]

that makes no sense if your focus is less dmg intake

[drowsy comet]

ZÄHNE ZUSAMMENBEIßEN, man this german translation is insane in WoW xD

[jagged pier]

But u dont loose 15k dps

[fringe mural]

yeah we bite our teeth when ignoring pain

[drowsy comet]

Schmerz ignorieren, would have worked too

[woeful frigate]

Klingt aber Arsch

[fringe mural]

clenching cheeks would've worked too

[drowsy comet]

alles klingt arsch im deutschen

[fringe mural]

i switched to the english client for all the great puns and haven't looked back since

[woeful frigate]

Press Buttcheeks would be the conclusion, right?

[fringe mural]

Cheeks are not buttons, you clench them

if you are the one forcing them together

if someone else does it, it might be pressing

But that is kinda weird

in a combat situation at least

[woeful frigate]

So if i clench yours i would press them? Thats the way. 😄

[fringe mural]

Mid fight? So hot

i can ignore the pain but only if carter presses my cheeks

now we got it

[shy python]

But isn't active heal different from dr?

[vital vale]

oh the 4/4 build but with tough as nails instead of cheat death? im too chicken to run this build. im using 1/4 and veteran

[shy python]

dr isn't usefull when I'm at 10% health

[fringe mural]

it is

[vital stirrup]

but it helps you not getting to 10%

[fringe mural]

It isnt based on your current health

you're not a dk, you shouldn't get to 10% in the first place

[drowsy comet]

Yes

[vital stirrup]

can you see in logs how much damage phalanx prevented?

[tribal wharf]

10%

5% maybe it is sorry

[fringe mural]

you're a comedy genius you know that?

[shy python]

But if I AM at 10% heal should be better

[vital stirrup]

then drink a pot

[fringe mural]

what heal?

the indom heal for 2%?

the talents that heal don't save you from a sudden dmg intake either

last stand does but that can be taken without dropping 4/4 apex

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

Going 1/4 is a basic failure to understand numbers

5% DR is way better than you realize

[jagged pier]

Why wouldnt u just use the build that has all of them tho include 4 apex

[daring marlin]

If you're going 1/4 why not just drop the apex entirely

[fringe mural]

Especially with IP being an absorb

[true idol]

deep wounds back on the menu boys

[vital vale]

cus shit hurts and I want last stand and more self heal and stamina and shit

[jagged pier]

It has that

And the 5% dr from apex

[daring marlin]

indom is garbage

[jagged pier]

Stamina has never kept u alive

[fringe mural]

the tanks that die

[jagged pier]

For years

If it did we would enchant and gem it

[cerulean tusk]

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated

[fringe mural]

died because they focused stamina over mitigation

[daring marlin]

This is facts. DR does.

[fringe mural]

Since burning crusade

[shy python]

16%

[jagged pier]

Indom used to keep u up when it healed 2%

[vital vale]

im checking top prot warrior builds in raider io and they mostly do 1/4

[jagged pier]

Now is 1% that does nothing

[jagged pier]

Because they are dumb

[vital vale]

lol

[jagged pier]

Aggregation sites literally fuel copying

Thats it

They copy 1 person

And it filters down

[daring marlin]

plka and ace don't

So what the fuck are you saying

[jagged pier]

Doesnt plka use the one nim gave him which i what im talking about

[fringe mural]

16% of your entire healing, but not in that very moment

[true idol]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zXAY2LytWPDKjhkG?fight=44&type=summary&source=144 look at this IDIOT

[fringe mural]

and we were talking about the moment where you are at 10% health

[cerulean tusk]

Can someone give me the tldr, so I can join in?

[fringe mural]

this only means he plays well, not that his talents are optimal

[daring marlin]

People are bad at math

[fringe mural]

or his dps/healer is very good

[jagged pier]

#protection message

[fringe mural]

They can make up for a lot of tank failure

With stuns/kicks etc

awareness

[cerulean tusk]

Oh the ITF discussion of MinMax dps value vs safety of uptime at lower haste values

[cerulean tusk]

Nah, I skip

[jagged pier]

i say it alot

[fringe mural]

Haha nice

it's actually a good thing because it means talents don't define gameplay

[jagged pier]

They run this build because its tanky, 'okay why dont they take HR then so they dont get unmitigsted hit'

Well they need to do damage

[fringe mural]

Which gives people more options to play around with and try out stuff

but mathematically the 1/4 build is still worse

[true idol]

yeah its more just to say that going 1/4 doesnt prevent you from clearing 20s, if 1/4 or 4/4 is better or not objectively idk

[fringe mural]

and i'm a math teacher so

case closed

[cerulean tusk]

Then we know u shut at math

[jagged pier]

I mean u can clear high keys without apex look at druids

M+ is literally about group play

[drowsy comet]

no way

[jagged pier]

But saying they run it cause they dont want to die and then they miss like one of our strongest talents for more damage makes no senelse

Not saying u are saying that

Just what ppl do argue

[fringe mural]

sob

[daring marlin]

@fringe mural

[jagged pier]

[fringe mural]

perfect

[jagged pier]

Kitty is right meow

[cerulean tusk]

Come on

These are the same ppl who said pwarrior dam was bad and unplayable, just cause they didnt swap to Col at all during testing (that was broken good)

Just ignore em Especially if they are a content creator

[jagged pier]

But its the stans or ppl who blindly follow aggregate site we get in here kitty

[fringe mural]

i mean two things:

the warrior is a mitigation class, not a healing class

stamina is relocating the pressure to keep you alive to your healer, which is a dick move

[jagged pier]

Again i can can it all

There is a build that has both

[shy python]

sure but the prob of the 5% Phalanx dr are that these are not very reliable esp. when grouping up mobs

[jagged pier]

But every timr me and nim have li ked it ppl go well it dorsnt have this or that

Yes u need to give up somthing

[young oasis]

I'm playing Colossus since day 1 of its release. Will always play it. Even if its at bottom of bottom

[jagged pier]

But u are as tanky if not tanky and do more damage

[jagged pier]

[fringe mural]

but if you die during grouping you should try not to get hit before the mobs are grouped

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[young oasis]

I was pretty decent for a pugger in S3 of War Within. Was doing 20's in PuG only

[fringe mural]

Because it starts to hurt when you have them all

not before ideally

[jagged pier]

Well if u get in the back while gathering

[fringe mural]

ideally

[jagged pier]

Which shouldnt be haooening at high keys

[shy python]

Pls show me any run where this is possible

[jagged pier]

Nim literally linked sense doing it thw other day

[young oasis]

I don't like MT since its Mountain King from WC3 and I'm not gonna be some dwarf/Muradin wannabe

[true idol]

the lightning looks cool ok

[jagged pier]

#protection message

[fringe mural]

5% dr isn't some glorious ultra talent, it's just objectively better than the others

[young oasis]

I don't like magic. Only pure physical power

Thunders are magic

[shy python]

Nice, a few highlevel pros can do this ^^

[vital stirrup]

man you are shouting more health at people

[jagged pier]

Right but we talking about high keys here

[vital stirrup]

seems pretty magic

[jagged pier]

So u should be doing it in high keys

[fringe mural]

in low keys the talents don't matter at all basically

[shy python]

its only 5% when this fucking little tiny shockwave fart hits something

[fringe mural]

lol

[young oasis]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/59823743 nothing special, but my WoW moto is: "Be Colossus, or die trying"

[fringe mural]

is it that tiny?

[jagged pier]

So what do u think of fight throught the fire and flames

[shy python]

yes

[jagged pier]

Cause ppl have been telling me it massice for years

Its 4% dr

[calm spruce]

colosus is a good build for portection war, in M+?

[cerulean tusk]

Only 5% is huge when combined with lots of other only 5% effects

The more there are, the more valuable each becomes

[jagged pier]

Icy veins

[shy python]

whats this?

[young oasis]

For me it is

[fringe mural]

You can play either

mountain thane is easier and a little bit better in m+

but they're very close

[young oasis]

anything is viable at the moment. M+ never been easier

[jagged pier]

Ppl really dont under stand how close warrior sits to dr cap

Its quite funny

[true idol]

feet on the ground talent is kinda nuts

[fringe mural]

jake

Is the 5% dr additive?

[cerulean tusk]

Tell em to play BDK and come back after

[jagged pier]

Still waiting for everyone to run high mastery like dpsdmg said they all would be

[calm spruce]

ty

[young oasis]

I'm gonna start testing mastery flask, since I play HR

[cerulean tusk]

I do that tho

It works

It is fun

[fringe mural]

@jagged pier

[jagged pier]

We both told him it would work

[jagged pier]

No

[cerulean tusk]

That DR is target multiplicative

[young oasis]

BTW I really hope they buff champion's spear and somehow make it mandatory. Such a cool spell

[jagged pier]

Like norhing is additive

[fringe mural]

okay that's what i thought

[jagged pier]

Just a flask wont change much tbh

[jagged pier]

But like with everything up u sit really high already

[young oasis]

So full sockets and enchants?

[shy python]

the 5% also don't save you from shit doesn't cast from an enemy

[jagged pier]

I mean that also wont change much

But u can if u want

[cerulean tusk]

You say that, but going from 50% to 55% is huge critblock value

[jagged pier]

[fringe mural]

what's the mastery build for, does it make you hit immune with crit block?

if you get to 50%

[cerulean tusk]

Basically the idea, is to soften whites to nothing

Yep

[jagged pier]

Tan damage

[young oasis]

Can someone explain me why so many people are not picking Shield Specialization talent?

[cerulean tusk]

ToN dam go hard

[jagged pier]

Because they are dumb

Strongest mitiagtion talent in the game

[young oasis]

yep

Warrior is king of physical mitigation

from day 1

of WoW release

[jagged pier]

Blockable

[young oasis]

yep

[jagged pier]

Physical damage

[cerulean tusk]

Cause they dont see the value of going from 50% DR to 55% DR logic, cause brain be DPS wired

If number not on sim, why do

Same ppl who say to not get a shield first btw

[vital stirrup]

is that mostly for m+? i have been dropping it in raid

[young oasis]

Can't wait for that "turbo boost" and 298 shield or whatever number is

[fringe mural]

Hell yeah

[jagged pier]

Yer in raid its kinda whatever but deoends what u drop it for

[fringe mural]

my indestructible shield is waiting for it 🙂

[cerulean tusk]

Yeye i am all m+ wited

[shy python]

the targeted mob doesn't get the debuff when I hit the one standing right next to it.
in big pulls you never hit all enemies with Phalanx

[vital stirrup]

i mostly copied the icyveins build i think

[cerulean tusk]

This pleases Funky

[cerulean tusk]

Dont tell anyone tho

[jagged pier]

Yer thats fine

[vital stirrup]

[tribal wharf]

end charge doing this blizzard

way over stated, but some times it really does feel like this

[cerulean tusk]

Yep

It is known

[calm flame]

I heard this chat is the same old slop

[tribal wharf]

i love to love wow

but there is a tiny confluence of a bunch of things that come together once or together to piss me off

sometimes its addons, sometimes lag, sometimes charge pathings, sometimes its we bricked a key

i dunno i just expect the game to react in predictable, ways

[calm flame]

Small indie company

[tribal wharf]

i cant do it if the game is going to constantly lag or glitch, will go crazy in the process

these events, even "bad charge" needs to be like, 1-2% rate

[young oasis]

Hmm, switched gems, stats on crafted gear to mastery and I sim lower

[tribal wharf]

crit or versa tends to be the other secondary you get the most of

tends to sim the best over multiple expansions

[young oasis]

did crit/mastery instead of haste/crit on crafted and gems. Also Zul'jin Mastery enchant on rings

fuck it, I wont touch anything

[tribal wharf]

i did that in one of my images and it was for an offset to play around with and if you saw that and did mastery because of that my apologies for not making it clear enough

not really a troll build but a have fun build

[young oasis]

When I do stat weight on sim, it says mastery gives most dps

[rancid tiger]

Dont

Just sim gear

Statweights are 100% irrelevant

[young oasis]

I see now. Literally just simmed current gear, Crit flask vs Mast flask and crit won by a small margin

Crit/haste is the way to go

[rancid tiger]

Its just everythin interacts so statweight gives u a view of what u want in this second

If it was a "free" point

Without reducin any other

This choice might change within gettin in theory 1 point as welø

[fringe mural]

Why not haste flask?

it's the best stat

and we're far from the point where it loses value

[young oasis]

I'm colossus and I use HR. In my theory, seems like crit have most synergy with colossus hero talents

[fringe mural]

you guys play the right path in skyreach?

and skill improved sr?

right talent path meaning less magic dmg taken instead of phys

[young oasis]

you mean on the way to last boss?

[fringe mural]

no for the adepts fire talon

i know you can stun and backpedal

but since it's fire dmg

[young oasis]

Adepts are nastiest mobs in SR imo

[fringe mural]

and it's the only thing in that dungeon that really hurts

i will try it out for my next run

i'll drop TaN or smth i will check

or enduring alacrity

Fuck stamina anyways

[young oasis]

I like bloodborne so much, but started dropping it in "higher keys" 15-16 is my highest atm

going EA and Indomitable, like a true pussy

[fringe mural]

i would like to try

but i don't want to brick someone's key because i have to go afk

dad life

so i stick to 10s and will go 12s next for resil

[young oasis]

same here, bro. 3 year old twin dad here

[fringe mural]

i got to ilvl 270 before i went into a mythic at all

delves ftw

[young oasis]

I played night shift since season released, but wife got enraged. Gonna go back to raid log 2/day a week

weekend night shift*

[fringe mural]

luckily my wife plays too so that's not an issue

[tribal wharf]

way i see it is under 5 key is ultra baby key, 6-9 id baby key, 10-13 is for vaults, 14+ is push, 18+ is high key

[fringe mural]

but stuff has to be done

[tribal wharf]

thats the way i view it

[fringe mural]

and i'm not a chad

i do housework

[young oasis]

Me too 🙂

and I cook also

[tribal wharf]

i just like doing normal content, even if i did raid on normal mode

[young oasis]

my cooking irl skill is higher than wifes

[tribal wharf]

i'd proably somehow find that to be alot for me

[fringe mural]

Same, but that's fine

She enjoys it

i don't like doing laundry so

[tribal wharf]

heroic raiding is hard as hell, like to kill the final bosses

[fringe mural]

sharing the burden

[fringe mural]

What?

[tribal wharf]

last 3 bosses anything is a bitch

[fringe mural]

since when

[tribal wharf]

since forever lol

[fringe mural]

no

[young oasis]

You are probably afraid of word "heroic". Relax and play it, shit will die eventually

as tank you can flip flop grps

[fringe mural]

in catclysm heroic raids were introduced, back then they were as difficult as nowadays mythic more or less

[tribal wharf]

the only heroic ra id i did all bosses was eternal palace

[fringe mural]

at some point they added mythic and tuned down heroic

[tribal wharf]

and then i never ever did raiding again, sometimes first 3 bosses heroic

[fringe mural]

so nowadays mythic is a little harder than cata heroic

But today's heroic is just sit in your chair and not slack

like normal was back in the day

[tribal wharf]

i would dps heroic if i had a 280 enchanted something or other i could do the rotation on

mage typically doesnt work out well, paladin doesnt work out well, dk wh atever

[daring marlin]

btw were you aware DR is calculated before blocking? I.E. in this log he took 686 million damage raw from melee. Do you really think 11 million healing from Indom is better than taking 34.3 million less damage PRE BLOCK? This isn't even counting all the other damage, BTW. JUST MELEE.

[fringe mural]

hm okay, well the most important thing is you enjoy the game man

whatever difficulty you choose

[tribal wharf]

warlock and priest goes bad for me, hunter goes okay, rogue goes okay

[fringe mural]

Difficulty is highly subjective of course

[young oasis]

MMO is like that. You need to invest some time in research and preparation

[tribal wharf]

i dont really touch shamans and druids and dragons,

[fringe mural]

that said, i suck at doom

[tribal wharf]

actually, shaman is O K, but i can never commit to playing it

[fringe mural]

i'm a casual minmaxer, i spend 1 hour learning my class and researching and play for 10 minutes

[tribal wharf]

i always flop out when it comes to shaman

[young oasis]

I'm playing from day 1 of EU release. Never had alt except arms warrior I made in Cataclysm. I don't belive in alts

[daring marlin]

I'm a menu boss progger

[fringe mural]

lol

[young oasis]

theorygamer

[tribal wharf]

but, what i like about shaman, is that ontop of having mail amor and shield, it also has 2 dps specs and 1 healer, cuz for instance paladin has 1 spec for each

[daring marlin]

I spend 75% of my time online getting declined

"Delisted"

[tribal wharf]

and it sort of limits alot what you can do each spec

its the cast bars

i cannot for the life of me do the cast bars

totally and utterly no for casting bars

if its that i am doomed

[young oasis]

Just simmed "eyes of eagle" instead SIlvermoon alactricity on rings. Sims 1k higher on single target

[tribal wharf]

i have zero idea w hat that nu magic demon hunter is, i think hybrid melee magic so like retribution?

but, i want something that is rangeed, and ability i thit the button and it happens

and there is going to be 40 million magic demon hunters running around anyways

[fringe mural]

What do they do

Crit damage?

1k per ring or in total?

[spiral mountain]

Thats why I kinda well - made an alt brewmaster

[young oasis]

total

its still good

[fringe mural]

yeah not bad

what do they do?

[tribal wharf]

i dunno how else to say it,

[fringe mural]

the eagle enchants

[young oasis]

2% increased critical damage

I think

[fringe mural]

okay that's neat but it's pure offensive right

haste is also a survivability stat

[daring marlin]

It's -1% per yea

[young oasis]

42 haste won't change much

[daring marlin]

Closer to the sweet spot

[young oasis]

especially after we fully upgrade our gear with crests and shit

[sharp gale]

42 haste is a lot of haste, but yeah

[fringe mural]

if the eagle stuff were %crit you would at least get parry

but for crit dmg i'll pass

[tribal wharf]

sometimes i will be not playing wow and then i will want to go run nexus in my head, and then i go to run it and it takes more than 15 seconds or so to log in to the game and i forget what im doing and get distracted log off, come back in 2 hours later rather,
I really like it when a game just can start like instantly, and i can be in a game, and at the action doing things and killing things or whatever the goals are within 30 seconds.

[fringe mural]

i'm still a tank

[daring marlin]

crit damage is pure offense and not by a lot either tbh

idk

[tribal wharf]

its like if you load up a 8bit or 16 bit game

[young oasis]

I will give it a go

[sharp gale]

I would follow the sim if it’s that big diff

[tribal wharf]

they load up in about 20 seconds from time you hit the power button to you swinging a sword

thats awesome

[young oasis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1L6KwHafauGv6GqxYQgup6

[fringe mural]

by all means go for it if it lets you clear a key faster

i wouldn't do it

[sharp gale]

Im a little stunlocked by the gearcompare i don’t find how i see your original gear

[tribal wharf]

someone, im not sure who, said, nexus trinket is bad, bad as in really low dmg or never goes off? says its split dmg, seems to match for keys

[daring marlin]

It's super bad damage wise

Tank tax?

[fringe mural]

do i embarass myself with lindormi's glow if i don't know the routes yet?

or are they decent

[young oasis]

Plume, gaze or ancient hunger.

Are BiS

[fringe mural]

i don't like to tab out during the key to check how i need to pull next

[tribal wharf]

for anyone who doesnt know me

any trinket i can equip and fully use

[young oasis]

From who? People you will never see or meet in your life

[tribal wharf]

i will use it at least 1 time probably more

this is, just the wy it is, i go for all the bad trinkets too

[daring marlin]

Just do it bro

[fringe mural]

no i mean are the routes fine

[daring marlin]

Who doesn't like a laser light show

[fringe mural]

or whacky

[sharp gale]

They can be wacky but just combine packs if it’s too much wack

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/millennials-raves-getting-old-jon-hamm-turn-the-lights-off-gif-16691929375204256219

[daring marlin]

this tbh

[fringe mural]

lol

is it that funky?

i never used it because i skipped the key levels at which it was active

[tribal wharf]

point in case about trinkets hoarding lol

[sharp gale]

Like I got a tank with lindormi in seat it was too much wack when it said him to do the portal dude solo

Like the one all the right

With a juicy pack next to it

[tribal wharf]

rest is hero except for puzzle, cuz i cant be assed to run academy this week

[daring marlin]

LOL

[tribal wharf]

less i think about fighting doragosa the beter my day is

[daring marlin]

that boss grew on me

[sharp gale]

Beside that part the route was standard

[daring marlin]

kinda fun

also wtf is demo dude

AA is the Demo dungeon

[tribal wharf]

i hate it, I HATE IT

[daring marlin]

disgusting class

[young oasis]

Doragosa is good for improving your skill

[daring marlin]

I'll have to learn Demo on my lock so I can be meta

[tribal wharf]

golemn and banshee fight gives my group ALOT of grief in many ways, not the weird ghost chase adds tho, i think

[daring marlin]

[tribal wharf]

always with the hook and the enrage

and the kick or dont kick

and dont stand in shit

its always a clown fight

i like spires alot though, now, final boss is gross

skyreach isnt that horrible,

[dusky canopy]

Demo is unironically very fun

Slingin imps kinda owns

[daring marlin]

It seems like they just do infinite damage 24/7

you know when played well anyway lol

[delicate bay]

Hey guys ! On wich dungeon did you spend your reroll ?

[daring marlin]

If I were you I'd run droptimizer on raidbots and choose based on the results

[tribal wharf]

this game on hard mode is the most difficult game i know of possible

[daring marlin]

pick whatever has the best options based on that

[tribal wharf]

harder than any mythic raid final boss

[daring marlin]

Are there 19 other people in your pocket that are required to also do what you're doing?

If not shut up dude lol

Not comparable

[sharp gale]

Kinda is

Bc hard = hard

[daring marlin]

Solo hard stuff and stuff where you depend on others is not comparable

If you think it is, ok bud lol

[sharp gale]

Yes they are comparable, why would they not

[daring marlin]

Because one is dependent on your individual skill and another is dependent on factors outside of your own individual skill

Is this an IQ problem? respectfully

[sharp gale]

Idk you explaining me by comparing them so it is weird

[daring marlin]

So it is an IQ problem

got it

[sharp gale]

Maybe it’s an English problem from me, wtf comparable means if it’s not : you can compare them

Is it the adjective comparable which is different meaning ?

[tribal wharf]

actual recording i made

within 5 seconds on hard mode, from starting the map

i die

[sharp gale]

MY BAD English diff

[dusky canopy]

comparable would mean they have similar meanings

[sharp gale]

I meant the first meaning

[hybrid fog]

I mean they are comparable, solostuff is ususally more hard indiviually, because only one person need to succeed at the same time. When you scale it up to, say 20, the same difficullt thing does not get harder for any 1 person, but you would expect it to take more attemps.

Though, without defining "Hard" the disscussion i pointless. Especially since difficulty is subjective.

[drowsy comet]

dammit the wrong one ;(

[dusky canopy]

bro thats omega

thats the one i hope to get

[drowsy comet]

yea but not for my druid lmao

should have been purple smh

[fringe mural]

I love the dance

i really do

When i first did that boss in a +10 i didn't know where to tank him yet

So i just stayed in one corner and dodged like 10 balls at once

Then i realized i maybe should've used the rest of the room too so my dps don't go insane

But they didn't say anything i give them that

i thought that's how you had to do it

it's probably really great to do it this way if all you have is ranged dps

Let the tank dance and the dps enjoy the open space

[tribal wharf]

save it for if u get tert omission

oh myth, thats vault, i'd check others, but it might be a good option to pick

[fringe mural]

well how would we know you're talking about a druid vault

Class traitor!

jk i love bears

[compact drift]

does mass interrupt work on mythic lura adds?

[fringe mural]

Does single interrupt work?

then why wouldn't it, it's a real interrupt

[compact drift]

Idk, I checked logs and people dont play it there

[frosty mango]

Prob bc it would potentially taint the boss?

[warm plinth]

Yeah that would be bad XD

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933732132889706566/1447682831974137856/melvin.gif

[dense remnant]

Any mythic beloren players here? Started prog on it this week, and I'm thinking about just swapping to colossus for a bit more egg dmg. But out of the 26 current public kills on it, all of them have been thane. Wondering if I'm missing something about why it might not be the play

[drowsy comet]

[wicked plank]

Hello,
Any idea on how I can force the raidbot sim to use defensive stance ? Would like to check the dps loss of stayin in it.

[warm plinth]

I don't know how to do that. But it's very minimal. A few % at most.

[frigid valley]

2/2 coins

[dusky canopy]

wish me luck im going now

[daring marlin]

What a lad

[winged zenith]

Why we using voidcores for nexus 1st

Go seat hands

[sharp gale]

Seat has 10 items

Seat is 100% a dungeon you wait to have 10 rolls

[dusky canopy]

beat me too it ye

npx has much higher odds of getting what i want

[toxic pewter]

I went seat but i kinda regret it a little but it does have 1h weapon i want and the gloves.. perhaps i should of went nexus or pit

in the end its not huge deal but yeah

[frigid valley]

just dont fucking suck and loot em in vault

[toxic pewter]

its true the loot table is giganntic in there

[sharp gale]

NPX is 8 items, 2 which are the same value of gloves

[toxic pewter]

yah the rings are nice

[dusky canopy]

also not to mention both rings are .7% each

my highest options

[dense remnant]

i just rolled gaze

[sharp gale]

Yes that’s why I said 2/8, looting 1 of the two = more than looting the gloves

[toxic pewter]

yeah looking back going seat was a mistake

[sharp gale]

Since you can use set with heroic rings

[toxic pewter]

but alas not end of the world in the long run

the 1h weapon kindd of baited me

[sharp gale]

Seat was my go choice but when I opened my vault I changed my mind

I rolled twice NPX, ended up taking the boots then

[tribal wharf]

we timed dw

[daring marlin]

26

lol

[tribal wharf]

bunch of wipes boss 3 trash

no trinkets

[dusky canopy]

cant win em all but got the light ring atleast happy with that

[tribal wharf]

that give me the haste vers neck hero

so i guess thats a thing

dont need hero neck

[drowsy comet]

dafuq

what went wrong lol

[frigid valley]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-simon-cowell-britains-got-talent-all-of-it-every-single-one-gif-26034859

[jagged pier]

[rapid pelican]

Is heavy repercussions talent bugged? It stacks shield block duration

[jagged pier]

its supposed to

[rapid pelican]

It doesn't stack without this talent though

Says nothing in tooltip that it does

[jagged pier]

i dont get what u mean SB always stacks duration

up to x3 its max duration

[rapid pelican]

Does it 😂

[jagged pier]

ye

[sharp gale]

Press shield block twice

[rapid pelican]

Sorry I'm new to prot, I just switched over from guardian

[jagged pier]

HR just lets u add 1 second to the remaining timer each time u shield slam

[sharp gale]

Or shield block+ shield charge

[tribal wharf]

slam you guys mean i think right

slam puts more block up

[crisp ocean]

whats the best dungeon for the bonus roll?

[jagged pier]

thats depending on your char

run a sims for each dungeon

and choose the one with the most upgrades

[sharp gale]

And if there is a special shiny item, think for 2 min and choose

[sly dagger]

Wtf

Absolute massacre

[fringe mural]

Seat is great

Almost all the drops are good

Stat wise

[dire anvil]

Just started pwar again. I dont have much to contribute but I was impressed by how much fuckin rage you can make on some small pulls. Almost cant spend it fast enough

[fringe mural]

Plus it drops the bis weapon

weapon, gloves, tier pieces, at least 1 ring

almost every item in there has haste

so yeah i'll go seat

[pastel summit]

Which one has the most upgrades

Which one least likely to give you a bad piece

Iirc it's like seat, alga and windrunner that looked the most appealing

but depends on what you need

[toxic pewter]

well for me at least, i see myself bonu olling in seat, nexus, and pit but that is just me based on droptimizer

[jagged pier]

Aa

[undone beacon]

What’s up gamers

I’ve thrown all mine at spire

Since I have the seat gloves on myth

[mental scarab]

Got the on use trinket that do fuck all dmg on my roll

[fringe mural]

Almost 😄

[fringe mural]

I'm missing the sweet 1h too

Or is there a better itemized 1h in a dungeon?

[tribal wharf]

.

[daring marlin]

We can't let those demons win yogi

[tribal wharf]

its joey wheeler again

hes the demon

drew 5 spell cards i cant use so bricked lol

[heavy sparrow]

When you're facing Joey Wheeler you know you know you're not facing the real challenges yet

[tribal wharf]

nah, you think you know but you dont lol

[proven moth]

Im a mythic plus only player which items should i make tier set and which slot do i keep open as prot?

[frosty mango]

This is covered in the pinned guide

From icy veins

[proven moth]

thanks il have a look!

[elfin elk]

just heard about the adamantite sharpening stone tech from one of my hunters, is that useful for prot or is the phoenix oil still better?

[drowsy comet]

I legit played with an botting BDK...this was such a cursed ass run lmao

we missed one NPC in pit, and our DPS kept mentioning it, this BDK didnt give a fuck continued the usual route, ran perfect in line too... something was off with that guy lol

[toxic pewter]

not sure wat that even is

[night radish]

can you block while casting puzzle box?

[toxic pewter]

nope

cant block, dodge, parry

[night radish]

damn

so this thing kinda sucks

[ionic fern]

It slaps.

Just hard/annoying to use.

[night radish]

i guess using before pulls is fine

does haste increase the puzzle solving speed?

[elfin elk]

weapon damage squish got fucked so its actually kind of relevant

The shield slam tooltip goes from 13,948-14,106 damage, I would sim this but Im not sure if its implemented

(I have no idea how those sorts of sims work)

[outer willow]

If I dont use my bonus rolls this week, they roll over into next right?

or is it lose it or lose it

[coarse bay]

It seems like they should roll over

Since the cap says seasonal cap

[toxic pewter]

is 4 wepon damage any good feel like oil may just be better unless im missing something

[cosmic cargo]

only really good on daggers because that weapon damage nets more wdps for faster weapons

[elfin elk]

Ah that tracks thank you, makes sense why surv wants it then as well

[dark grail]

hi guys im searching for a way to track externals in raid . does someone has something for me ?? would be cool THANKS 🙂

[jagged pier]

thats gone with the expansion

the best way is to ither get it assigned pre pull or talk to the healers mids pull

[tribal wharf]

Wtf so this phone update ive been delaying for like 2 months now just made phone run faster

[craggy harness]

don't worry

as your phone gets older

updates wll make your phone slow again

[tribal wharf]

Figured would make I go slower lol

[severe star]

random question but how do I find the transmog for the hidden scale of the battlelord

I have it I just cant find the transmog appearance

[fringe mural]

where do i see my sb uptime?

in the log

i know i can see backshots by activating sb as the filter

and then check for hits

[severe star]

under buffs and defensive

[fringe mural]

this?

[severe star]

I believe so yes im not sure if that counts in combat as well though

[fringe mural]

but that's just the time

[warm plinth]

Damage taken > hover over hits number next to melee or other blockable mechanics

[severe star]

alright thanks

[fringe mural]

that's not great

but it's a start

[warm plinth]

Not ideal, no

Not terrible though

[fringe mural]

i'm still struggling with the pulls

what to pull and what not

not so much the fights themselves

[warm plinth]

It's honestly the biggest pressure as a tank in keys

What to pull, when to pull it, how big should I pull, etc

[fringe mural]

yeah

i need practice on that

[warm plinth]

Made even more difficult by blizz not letting us even see people's cds anymore

[fringe mural]

i don't die and i know when to cd and stuff

but i have no clue about percentages and what to skip etc

i'll get there

i have lots of seats before me until i have the 1h and gloves

[warm plinth]

Dungeons like seat are ones I have the most trouble with since it's open and there are a lot of options (from what I remember anyway)

[fringe mural]

where can i see the rage waste?

oh i found it

shit man 😄

[warm plinth]

👀

Idk how i managed to do the other one

[fringe mural]

but at least ss is my top dmg dealer

so i got that going for me

TaN is a lot of dps man

ngl

how do you guys do the 1st pull in seat without having them charge at you, pedal from pack to pack?

or just pull them with heroic throw

and they don't charge when aggroing

[tribal wharf]

charge the first one, throw remainder 2 packs

never ever move, (basically)

[fringe mural]

so they only charge at you if they were in melee range once and then you leave it

[tribal wharf]

if someone moves out, one of the monsters can charge

so you can move a tiny bit, but you and your team really shouldnt move during that

[fringe mural]

yogi, i understand how the spell works, my question just was when are they able to use it

at the beginning of combat or only when they are already at you

and you leave THEN

if they can't charge at the beginning of combat then the pull is pretty easy to do

[undone beacon]

dude 18 skyreach hurts

[jagged pier]

i would think 18 anything hurts

[charred shard]

Could anyone with Raidbot premium help me sim droptimizer for S1 Dungeon please? If yes, I'll DM you the link. Thanks ❤️

[undone beacon]

yeah but it hurts more when im a stinky priest

slamming flash heal every 10 seconds for the 10% DR

[jagged pier]

just have 8 tabs open

and it needs to +10 max upgraded

voidforged is only weps and trinkets

[fringe mural]

okay i tried in m0

if i charge/demo the first pack i can use sb before they start hitting

then i heroic the other two packs

[jagged pier]

just charge and SS

[fringe mural]

and stay where i am

[outer willow]

first bonus roll

[jagged pier]

and SB on the same global

[bitter sedge]

what are we bonus rolling? in m+

[undone beacon]

Whatever dungeon has the most upgrades

[tribal wharf]

there is a ton of dungeons with great loot i would say

[stiff inlet]

progress

[outer willow]

I made it boys. time to GO INTO THE FRAY

[slow estuary]

why is priority on revenge higher then execute?

or is it not?

[jagged pier]

because execute doesnt hit for anything

[slow estuary]

so then why is it in the rotation at all?

since u can just revenge instead all the time

[jagged pier]

because in ST as thane u still press it

[slow estuary]

when?

[jagged pier]

on single target

[slow estuary]

ok so you do press it above revenge then

[jagged pier]

in 1 scanrio for 1 hero spec

[vital vale]

top dmg on 3rd boss 17 seat lol

6.4 mil reflected

[blazing shuttle]

Your DPS let you reflect?

[toxic pewter]

yeah was gonna say must be nice lmao

[outer willow]

This is the biggest surprise here lol

[chilly brook]

Before pulling that boss I tell my dps to just not interrupt

[blazing shuttle]

...

[chilly brook]

Works about 50% of the time

[blazing shuttle]

That's high.

Stares in Pit Of Saron.

"Do not interrupt the Lich."e

Top interrupts? The Lich.

[severe star]

I wish deathbolt always targetted tanks

[blazing shuttle]

Imagine how easy the boss would be if it did.

[severe star]

acutally maybe Ill do a heroic duegon solo and see how much percentage it does

[blazing shuttle]

A lot I hope

[outer willow]

I wonder if it would be insane to tell DPS to not interrupt death bolt

[severe star]

I mean what if the group is dead

[blazing shuttle]

Problem is.

DPS will always interrupt what you tell them not to.

And not interrupt what you tell them to.

We gotta use reverse psychology.

[tribal wharf]

give, interactable with spell (spell steal, reflect i mean)

its own icon

or border

[outer willow]

Oooh

I’d like that

[past summit]

I used to watch Quazii on youtube for tanking videos, but he is done now. Can anyone recommend anyone with a similar style? Lots of detailed information organized well?

[vital vale]

same

[edgy flint]

When you’re a good prot warr, it does. Just intervene 4head

[terse hollow]

Quick question, I have a low geared alt, no myth pieces, good raid trinkets though in theory which would be the best dungeon to bonus roll on?

[serene belfry]

Tactyks maybe?

[frosty mango]

Are you planning on pushing keys or just doing weekly keys

And can you do +10s

[outer willow]

Tactyks 100%

[jagged pier]

sim then pick the dungeons with the most upgrades

[terse hollow]

im like 267 so definitely fine for 10s and i will be pushing yeah

been pushing as venge but its like moving a rock up hill and i want dwarf D:

[drowsy comet]

Nexus cuz rings

But sim before

[pastel sleet]

how do i live this fucking overgrowth pull

im so sick of bleeds

[tame jasper]

Finally chimerus down and bonus rolled Gaze 🥳

[drowsy comet]

Bloodlust and using defensives, with the Bleed use dwarf racial, if ur dwarf. Otherwise...pray

[frosty mango]

You can leap out to reset the stack

But you have to time it right so you can charge right back in or the pack gets all jacked up

[daring marlin]

man I sure can't wait to get that dog trinket from MC cuz I'm rolling there

[frosty mango]

You can also bop off the stack

[daring marlin]

fingers crossed it's the ONLY thing I don't get

[frosty mango]

Dwarf racial

[drowsy comet]

Vessel of something something? (forgor the name) Why u want this lol

[daring marlin]

I don't

I want everything but that

[drowsy comet]

Ohh

[daring marlin]

I chose MC as my rolling dungeon

had plenty of upgrades

2H good too

[drowsy comet]

My rdruid rolled myth final grade, legit a BiS, still really happy

[cunning moth]

Hey guys so i'm a m+ player only just casually raiding some heroic with my guild. WE are having issues with the tank swaps on ezzorak + vaelgor. Sometimes tank gets pulled back to the flying dragon,, or we do the swaps and the flyng dragon just kinda races off the the other end of the room? What are we doing wrong here?

We are swapping on every gloom

Right after it has been cast

[severe star]

dont swap on dragons until intermission then when they both land swap on glooms

[cunning moth]

If we swap outside of the intermission, sometimes the flying dragon just flies around randomly to the other side of the room?

[coarse bay]

The flying dragon is tied to the ground dragon

If it’s moving, the tank on ground dragon is moving

Except for final phase

[coral quartz]

Not done a key in a few days just tried to warm up with an AA and I still struggle with that first pull. This was a pug too. I know it’s somewhat a dps check but I ran out with the three stacks for what I thought was enough time and came back got five stacks.

I’ve watched kira’s and sha’s video on how they approach it.

[coarse bay]

Were you out with enough time or was it actually just thinking it was?

Kira and sha also play dwarf and with an aug

[outer willow]

What key level?

I know it sounds dumb, but spear really helps me with that pull

[coarse bay]

Does spear work on the guys that apply it because i dont think it does

[coral quartz]

Was a 13

[outer willow]

What

Egg on my face then

[coral quartz]

You can’t cc the lashers

[outer willow]

I’ve been using spear and praising its utility in that pull

Guess its placebo

[coral quartz]

How are you approaching it without an aug and dwarf, just splitting it then lusting the tree?

[hardy raven]

Okay, yall. I need some help. I'm new to Prot War and seem to be struggling when looking at my logs compared to others of my ilvl (269-271). My average shield slams are hitting for only 18.4 k compared to others hitting average 32k. Even sims are saying I should be averaging 28k with my current build/gear. Can anyone help narrow down what I'm doing wrong?

[outer willow]

What I’ve been doing is waiting till pat goes, then go left and pull first two packs, chain into 3rd and pat

[jagged pier]

logs

[outer willow]

Lust on first lock in

If I don’t lust there, I’m dying

[coral quartz]

Yeah that’s what I did tbh I think infucked up. It’s such a shit pull

[outer willow]

It is a shit pull.

1000%

[coral quartz]

Feel like I nail it sometimes but not consistently

[hardy raven]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nbKkwY9QyLX3Ah6g?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=5

[outer willow]

Same for a lot of us I think. I think 4/5 times I’ve got it

But that 1/5 man

It’s like I miss one small detail and it all goes to shit

[jagged pier]

well your talents for 1

and your not pressing SB for a second

[outer willow]

SB increases SS damage

[terse hollow]

okay done, whats next? xD

[jagged pier]

[outer willow]

Oh holy shit

[coarse bay]

[outer willow]

11.63

Oh no

[jagged pier]

no booming voice no violent outburst

[coarse bay]

[drowsy comet]

Jesus christ

[outer willow]

Yo this is the worst talent build I’ve seen. But that’s great news. You have room for easy improvement

[jagged pier]

CPM is also low

not pressing buttons

[jagged pier]

this

[terse hollow]

yeah that wasnt supposed to happen huh

[jagged pier]

i recommend looking over the icy veins guide

[outer willow]

Like super easy.

[drowsy comet]

then uhh this barbed neck from Pit

[jagged pier]

and taking the talents from there

[drowsy comet]

Not at all...

[terse hollow]

my other one is only champ tbf, dunno if i go roll there more or not, im scared of hitting the trinket

[coral quartz]

Aye it’s left a sour taste feel like a more mobile tank would have it better.

[hardy raven]

danke

[outer willow]

Always be pressing SB. The rest will fall into place

[hardy raven]

ya...wasn't pressing it while not having agro. that's a big oof.

[outer willow]

When do you not have aggro?

[hardy raven]

on bird, tank swaps

[outer willow]

Oh raid

I see

[hardy raven]

ya, M+ it's not a problem

[outer willow]

If you look at it as a DPS cooldown, you’ll have a lot of fun

[coral quartz]

Always have it up like dm said it’s a dos increase

[jagged pier]

it is

[hardy raven]

ya, 40% increase to shield slam explains the numbers I was seeing. That and the demo shout talent and using that on CD too

[outer willow]

You got it!

[mystic cave]

that alone will help the CPM too, but yeah always press something

[coral quartz]

I’m not playing a fucking dwarf so I need to figure out this aa pull it’s made me come off thinking I’m trash lel

[hardy raven]

ya, it's all cyclical. rage starved while not having agro, the demo shout 20 rage'll help. better optimized gear with more haste'll help

[mystic cave]

i just kite once i see my health start rubber banding, leap and the aoe slow/movement speed to kite is nice

as well as shockwave

4ish stacks

never not done the pack

[hardy raven]

to be fair, I just hit 90 on this toon on Tues and this was my first week raiding with it 😛

[mystic cave]

check icy veins for raid talents too

[hardy raven]

ya, already swapped those

ty all

[coral quartz]

I’m doing this but obviously mistimed coming back in. All the vids I’ve seen say to run out with three stacks at five seconds for three seconds

[mystic cave]

i just watch my debuffs until the bleed falls off, im kiting anyway

[coarse bay]

Ya not sure why youd charge in with 2 seconds left

If it’s killing you

Always be safe

[outer willow]

What’s your guy’s first move on a boss? Like you’re standing there during the RP, what is your opener? I spam shield charge… but I’ve never questioned it

It’s instant, gives me SB. So I like it

Is there a better way to go?

[mystic cave]

ss+taunt is what i do for no particular reason

[outer willow]

Yea I’ve done that before. Sometimes if I just taunt, the DH (and it’s always DH) gets clapped for a single hit

Never dies but it’s like damn

[mystic cave]

Ive got friends that like to stand right on the boss to and i quote "feel something" so i taunt+ss into normal opener and call it

[outer willow]

Yea they’ll feel something alright

[sharp gale]

It depends on the RP, if the boss appear in the middle of the group like vexamus or the bird, I thunderclap as first gcd bc ppl are dumb

[warm plinth]

You should always be opening with Charge>Taunt>Avatar>opener. There's an opener in the rotation guide.

[coral quartz]

Does anyone have a vid of them approaching the first aa pull. I’m not playing dwarf and no evoker.

[outer willow]

How is your gathering of the first two packs?

Like are you getting clapped?

[harsh trellis]

Here.... Yes, its a brewmaster guide but this guy explains it really well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmBHiNJkkYs

[coral quartz]

Watched this, I’m not getting clapped no I’m dying from
The bleed I’m just not consistent in my pulls like I’ve timed it on a 14 doing it recently but I kited it a lot to the point dps complained so was wanting another frame of reference

[coarse bay]

If you have nothing to reset and need to kite, then you need to kite

[coral quartz]

You all moving out at three stacks

[valid violet]

Guys do I have too much haste? Where do deminishing returns start for Prot?

[harsh trellis]

You move out and kite and then at 3 seconds left you can go back in

[void saffron]

Just be dwarf and invite aug evo and no kiting needed

[warm plinth]

Diminishing returns start at the same place for everyone, but the displayed % means nothing to diminishing returns, and it's virtually impossible to hit the 2nd diminishing returns tier (the first one we care about) this season.

Specifically, they start at 30%, then 39%, then 47%, then 54%, then 66%. But that % all has to come from rating to count, and we get a lot of % from talents.

[coral quartz]

Nah Tauren for life bruv

[fringe mural]

i did seat again now

and it got better

93% block

instead of 88 like last time

[tribal wharf]

this could be you

[coral quartz]

yeah i can't do this pull just tried it again fucking getting dusted popping cd's I am doing this with a pug and im moving out but then the healer is not in los

[tribal wharf]

if i can make it to 12 and 13 keys

thats likely were i'll get hard stuck

[fringe mural]

yiss

got the myth 1h from seat bonus roll

[hazy crest]

Disrupting shout is our only form of ranged interrupt correct?

[solid sun]

No

Javelineer

It’s a silence

[coral quartz]

Big up the javelins.

I done a few practise go’s of kiting that first pull in AA just trying it in the base mythic. I just need to get out my funk and execute it properly in a key nown

[mystic cave]

You could record it and send that here, might be more helpful

with sometihng like warcraft recorder

[jagged gust]

I remember running NW first pull until I could solo it, it's good practice

[solid sun]

Did you change your name

[jagged gust]

Willie K is eternal

[solid sun]

Wasn’t the last name Kaufman or something

[coral quartz]

I will look to do this

[mystic cave]

i use warcraft recorder, very light setup and then you just have the program up and it auto records raid/keys.

[coral quartz]

I won’t lie it’s knocked my confidence that pull it’s my first season playing a tank I’m only at 14’s and this has been playing on my mind.

[mystic cave]

I think you are just in your head. I face pull the first pat, leap max range into the left, charge to the right pack, throw to gather the back pat, group until three stacks

then i kite out of melee range until the full bleed drops off, then go back in

shield wall once while gathering like half way. im sure there are better ways, but i live 10/10 times

[coral quartz]

When you initially kite are you just back peddling out or leaping

[mystic cave]

full leap out

[jagged gust]

https://tenor.com/view/ndn-william-knifeman-reservation-dogs-native-american-gif-25263913

[mystic cave]

you can also piercing howl to slow them all

to keep them stacked

[coral quartz]

The lashers can’t be cc’d can they

[mystic cave]

no, but the rest of them

[coral quartz]

Okay I’ll take howl here

[mystic cave]

im sure you can min max the bleed time and go back in while yous till have it, but why risk it

i gather, leap out at 3-4 stacks and wait until it fully falls off

you arent doing mdi keys

[dusk fog]

If you leap out at 4 seconds you’ll drop every single time

[mystic cave]

I dont even put that much thought into it, wait till i get to the stack amount im scared of and skedaddle

[autumn heron]

Sorry weird question since im not in game right now
Is solarflare prism in the prot loottable ?

[formal basin]

ya

[autumn heron]

Thank u kind sir

[tribal wharf]

hmm i guess they changed that

its the ONLY trinket that drops as dps spec though, so you might minimize runs

[glacial stratus]

what is best defensive trinket for m+?

[marble girder]

what dungeons are people using their rerolls on?

[lusty grotto]

solar core

[lusty grotto]

we run droptimizer for that

[marble girder]

what's that sorry?

[lusty grotto]

raidbots

sims

[marble girder]

ah okay will check it out thanks

[undone beacon]

alright three hours of dragons, fingers crossed it goes down

[marble girder]

do you need premium to use droptimizer?

[smoky plinth]

no, but you do need premium to run all the dungeons at once

[marble girder]

just selecting 1 dungeon only shows like 2 items. Maybe I'm just dumb lol

yeah i'm dumb don't worry

[tribal wharf]

seat 10 was a mistake

victory was NOT achieveed

[outer willow]

What happened

That’s the best 10

[loud rune]

hello

[hoary gate]

Going left on maisara cavers is viable right? Or toxic?