protection

[tribal wharf]

we can answer many questions but we cant answer that easily

[brisk cloud]

Im in a myth guild but I know our goofy asses are falling apart on dragons

[placid bone]

Probably going to send it on m+ since I don't get into much M raid. Might be able to do m chim at least, but i can hold out a few weeks for that

[kind glen]

Is there any resources for tanking Paladins on Mythic?

I'm just looking for timings. I guess I could just watch a video and do it myself but was wondering if someone did it lol

[opaque wyvern]

Yo, are tank frames broken for anyone else

cotankframes doesnt work for me, my guildie said nrst tank frames arent working either

cant see edbuffs

[undone beacon]

its a patch day, most addons are broken

this is why tuesday raids are iffy

[daring marlin]

cdm is broken too

pretty sick

THAT WAS PAIN PASH

LMFAO

[opal ledge]

my first roll xD

[tribal wharf]

this is what i mean

when i say pugs expect tank players to "be a tank" and have tank enchants and trinkets

for some reason, they think you are masquerading dps, as tank to get freebies

[undone beacon]

Got myth seat hands in vault, then first reroll in spire got me a myth helm to replace champ. Once again my alts stay winning and my main gets thrashed

[warm plinth]

Probably because new nickname tbh

[tribal wharf]

alt? what the hell is that

some kinda

secondary character

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496237160918155295/picmix.com_13676842.gif

dont make me turn you into a picmix ghash

[opaque wyvern]

[warm plinth]

Do it bitch you won't

[undone beacon]

i already did yogi

[warm plinth]

Use my gym photo from today

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496239467911188711/picmix.com_13676870.gif

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/bxDk8.gif

[tribal wharf]

my beloved

[tribal wharf]

unhinged

i like it

[undone beacon]

Consider yourself picmixed

[warm plinth]

lmaooo

I love it

[tribal wharf]

that one is too good

[undone beacon]

Thanks, im a powerful picmixer

[tribal wharf]

i dont entirely hate games trinket, seems it does go at target after kicked rather than dead ahead

[ivory barn]

Inky Black Potion is BiS

[tribal wharf]

i think if target is behind you, it doesnt work though

something seems to stop it from dealing dmg

could have been the lag, lord only knows ill test it more in keys this week

[ebon geyser]

Can someone explain to me like if I was a paladin how this new roll thing works

Is it use on vault or after a dungeon

[wary gyro]

on finishing a dungeon or raid boss kill

[ebon geyser]

so for mythic stuff it has to be a 10 and /or mythic boss?

[opal ledge]

nice 2nd roll

[toxic pewter]

gratz

[errant wagon]

given that the damage profile for both hero trees are essentially equal now, what are the actual pros to running one versus the other?

like I'm having trouble identifying the pros with colossus, and the one big con is gathering is harder (just mimicing what the pin says basically)

[undone beacon]

I did it, i have the hot mogs

[ebon geyser]

weird as fok looking warrior

[undone beacon]

witches

[placid bone]

I figure that the simplicity of thane is the biggest benefit. No movement restriction from demolish. I do love the knock up effect on shockwave in colossus though, small as that is.

[undone beacon]

theres barely a movement restriction on demolish

[ebon geyser]

if col is the go to now im rerolling

[undone beacon]

Demolish is a very satisfying button to hit, thats the pro

its very much a gameplay preference

[placid bone]

Yep, that exactly.

[errant wagon]

you do make a good argument here, it does feel good

[placid bone]

Its a good spot to be in.

[undone beacon]

Its a fantastic spot for a spec to be in when both hero talents are equally viable

[frosty mango]

For the first time ever

[errant wagon]

disregarding damage, is there an argument that survivability could be better with colossus? Given strong IP and stronger bleeds for FbV?

[frosty mango]

We can say both are optimal

[undone beacon]

If you like the style of Col, you can run col. If you dont, you can run thane. Col is marginally better in ST, Thane in AoE. Both have equal survivability. The difference is negligible in every regard

Col has stronger IP and a nice flat dr in Mountain of Muscle and Scars, wheras Thane has more IPs overall and flat dr from TB

They shake out to be about equal

[errant wagon]

🫡

[undone beacon]

The biggest difference really is in ease of play. For newer players or people who just want to zug, thane is def less thought

[errant wagon]

would we consider colossus better prio damage?

I think that is true

[worn reef]

i keep hearing today about this crafted weapon upgrade that is timegated, does that refer to a crafted weapon from sparks or mythic track drop from a M+/raid or both, i remember in tww they added more crests in either and both got stronger the crafted and the drop/vault one

[undone beacon]

In 4 weeks we will get to start farming an item that lets you take hero 6/6, Myth Crafted, or Myth 6/6 items and add 9 ilvls to them

[worn reef]

oh ok both then ty

[fallow fern]

that doesnt start for 4 weeks?

[undone beacon]

Yep

[fallow fern]

I have myth tier gloves already... but should I just take these gloves.. then i dont need to worry about spending rerolls in seat?

[undone beacon]

Its timegated

[fallow fern]

well the sim is gonna show shoulders cause they replace heroic..

but im thinking longer term since shoulders easier to get..

[sharp gale]

I would take the gloves

There is 10 items in seat

[undone beacon]

you'd be shocked, the gloves are pretty neat

Yeah i'd take gloves

[sharp gale]

Im praying myself for the gloves in my vault, I might take the 10 item journey

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto first roll in WS

on dk

[fallow fern]

im trying to sim the gloves in top gear and its saying they cant be used in a valid combination... do they count as an embellishment or something?

nm i figured it out

[sharp gale]

Maybe wait

it may be bugged

[wild shell]

Hey, gamers

[sharp gale]

This fellow warrior asked in fury how to report his bug

[wild shell]

I do H raid but also push Mythics hard

[daring marlin]

oof

I did a one and done at least lol

[wild shell]

What trinket should I pair with my Gaze with the myth track rerolls?

[sharp gale]

What you looked for ? The trinket ?

[daring marlin]

anything but helm

had a 233 belt tho lol

[ebon geyser]

sad you cant roll mythic stuff on delves

[sharp gale]

I convinced myself to go for seat but I’m hesitating again with nexus point https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5DCKzt7T37tC3fd7bEFowU

4/10 seat I need and there is the gloves, 4/8 nexus point I need and there is set rings

[opal ledge]

3rd roll: gloves with speed
Now i can either get another roll to fish for the shield/weapon...
Or grab a chest.

[proud dock]

shld i take mythic track boots from vault or just token for a reroll?

[opal ledge]

depends, what dungeon are you planning to roll?

[proud dock]

got crafted weap and shield so maybe seat for bis weap

[undone beacon]

8 seconds over on a 17 pit i wanna kms

[opal ledge]

seat will drop u a boots

[proud dock]

im confused about the voidforged thing. if it only works on weap and trinks, is it worth using on a crafted weap or hold onto it until you get a non crafted myth track weap? (im guessing shield are not weapons?)

[harsh trellis]

if you roll in raid I think it uses up both tokens but if you roll in M+ you get 2 separate rolls if im not mistaken

[daring marlin]

HOW DID YOU NOT TIME IT

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[opal ledge]

we dont got that information yet

[stiff inlet]

thanks skyreach...

[undone beacon]

inefficient routing and three deaths

[proud dock]

ahh ok

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-the-steak-charlie-steak-charlie-steak-hate-gif-16220908583929700504

[daring marlin]

sadge

[warm plinth]

Someone stop him

[undone beacon]

8 fucking seconds ugh

[warm plinth]

MAKE THE HORRIFIC GIFS STOP

[daring marlin]

shoulda had me there man

ez timed key

[daring marlin]

BIG

I have decided I will be rolling MC on my pally

[harsh trellis]

2 back to back colossus smashes feels awesome

[shy agate]

Im level 10 prot warrior, is it okay if I tank timewalking?

[daring marlin]

yeah do it

[shy agate]

but i should get a sword and shield first right and not use 2-handed?

[harsh trellis]

correct

[opal ledge]

yes

[harsh trellis]

got herilooms?

[shy agate]

nope i dont think I have heirlooms

but I'll check

[unreal hornet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fDe6sgJDBJzSxKtwohsSMm

i rlly dont want this puzzle box lmao

[daring marlin]

yeah you do

[unreal hornet]

frfr?

[undone beacon]

pbox is good

just dont use it in the middle of a pull

[opal ledge]

pbox hater here

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496237160918155295/picmix.com_13676842.gif

[opal ledge]

the dmg it deals probably dont make the timer 2s you precast in pulls
u probably need to cast mid pull to be worth it

[lusty grotto]

100% wrong

[opal ledge]

did you made the math?

[daring marlin]

sims do the math for you

and it dumpsters everything

that's an absurd amount of mastery

[opal ledge]

sim will not account 2sec loss every use.

that can eat like 24 sec in a dg

[daring marlin]

When you're casting for 2s you don't even have offensive CDs up

do you think before you yap or...?

[opal ledge]

imagine the tank saved 24 sec in this dg xD

[daring marlin]

I better drop it on all my dps dudes too

2s isn't calculated

[opal ledge]

dps can cast when you already started the pull

[daring marlin]

but it's wasted time buddy

[kindred saddle]

is algethar puzzle box really good for prot warrior? its A tier on wowhead.

[daring marlin]

not accounted for

[opal ledge]

you make the whole group wait 2s if you cast before pull

[lusty grotto]

first of all we dont use wowhead anymore, use icy-veins

[daring marlin]

you're not a real person

[lusty grotto]

and yes puzzlebox is good

[opal ledge]

i don't like it, i grabbed coins last week instead of it, and i'm happy about it

[toxic pewter]

did that 3400 achievement make it in today

[daring marlin]

not yet

[lusty grotto]

stop spreading your opinion as information

[toxic pewter]

ok thx

[opal ledge]

i said I DONT LIKE it's my opinion

[lusty grotto]

they did not ask for opinions

[opal ledge]

it's stated to be my opinion

they did

[lusty grotto]

usually people go "what are your opinions on"

[kindred saddle]

we use it before pull? 2sec casting time feels bad

[opal ledge]

when you make a question everyone is up to give their opinion in a public discord

[lusty grotto]

please point as to where

[lusty grotto]

sure

[opal ledge]

algethar puzzlebox, according to bloodmallet, will give you 0.6%dmg over a solarflare prism.... that's something 0.2% of the dmg your group make in a dungeon? making a dungeon that last 30 minutes, that's like 3 seconds.... but now you wasted 24 sec pre casting on pulls 🙂

[lusty grotto]

you dont like it, dont use it

but please refrain of having your likes and dislikes be taken as facts

there's social media for that

[opal ledge]

so you say it's good but that's your opinion, it's not a fact.

[lusty grotto]

its a fact, because sims speak for themselves

[opal ledge]

a sim saying it's a dps increase don't mean it's good.

[lusty grotto]

it is by our standards

[daring marlin]

bro arguing with the robot

OH MUH GAWD

[opal ledge]

does your sim take into account the 2sec you lose every pre cast?

[lusty grotto]

why does that matter

[opal ledge]

because its 24s you will lose in the dungeon

there is a timer in the m+ you know...

[lusty grotto]

also 0.6% over solarflare IS NOT bloodmallet's data

[lusty grotto]

so?

do you think we're recommending it for 18s?

we're not

[daring marlin]

It sure does

[opal ledge]

wasting 24 second to gain 3 seconds is not good in any key level (also make you less tank)

[lusty grotto]

thats an opinion

it certainly does not matter in vault keys

[opal ledge]

wasting 24sec to gain 3sec is not good, it's a fact not a opinion, it's basic math

[lusty grotto]

did you forget there's more content than just keys?

and did you forget you can actually cast it while tanking

with stuns

which i certainly do

shit, did you forget m+ bosses stop auto attacking to cast shit, where you can cast it without issues?

[daring marlin]

nah bro they're always meleeing

[warm plinth]

I agree, wasting 24 seconds to gain 3 seconds is bad, and that's a fact. What's not a fact is that that's what is happening by using the trinket. That's something you just made up based on the barest of napkin math using a template character sim that does not resemble your own personal character or the actual usage of the trinket.

[lusty grotto]

this guy would have hated beacon

[daring marlin]

goated trinket idgaf

[opal ledge]

your sim doesnt take all that into account, so... it's your opinion too, not facts
will that be good in real scenarios? maybe
not a fact

[lusty grotto]

yes it does

[daring marlin]

It's a fact it's one of the biggest DPS trinkets in the game

[opal ledge]

and for dps specs it's great

[warm plinth]

Why? They're wasting 24 seconds to gain 3 seconds?!

[harsh trellis]

So I dont think I am getting a double colossus smash. I think this may be a visual bug

[opal ledge]

they are not wasting the 24 sec of the group, they can cast when the tank is pulling

[warm plinth]

They could be DPSing with that time! 100% a waste

[balmy narwhal]

Is there a way to avoid getting 1 shot from battle axes in AA, I feel like I am doing well then all of a sudden my health drops when I am doing double pull at the trash right before vexamus

[lusty grotto]

use your cds, and kite a little bit

[warm plinth]

I don't have to take the actual use case of the trinket into account if you don't.

[lusty grotto]

SR is excellent since the hit is arcane

[stiff inlet]

so its saying a myth sword sims lower then my crafted, but am i wrong to assume that it is mostly because of the emb on it

[warm plinth]

That would be why, yes

[daring marlin]

It's cuz of the embellishment

[balmy narwhal]

I use SR but as soon as SW and SR are gone, boom cheat death then almost death

[stiff inlet]

okay i was tripping for a minute

ty

[balmy narwhal]

ok so I just have to kite a bit?

[harsh trellis]

I dont 3 pack pull that trash

I pull the first 2 at the front

then I will back into that 3rd group with most of the first 2 groups are dead

[lusty grotto]

what key level is this?

[balmy narwhal]

15-16

[lusty grotto]

weird

you shouldn't be getting 1 shot

[balmy narwhal]

I find it strange too

[harsh trellis]

You could... if you want...... skip a worm after the bird.... and funnel wyrm into vex

save some time there

just gotta make sure dps pay attention

[opal ledge]

you can parry the battleaxe magic dmg?

[lusty grotto]

do you have a log

[harsh trellis]

so demolish

I kept saying colossus smash like arms.. but demolish... is that supposed to hit back to back like you get 2 casts ?

or no

[lusty grotto]

3 casts

[harsh trellis]

3?

[lusty grotto]

3 hits, not casts

1 channel, 3 hits

[harsh trellis]

OK so its a visual bug

[undone beacon]

Broooo 44 seconds over on an AA

[harsh trellis]

because I would press avatar and then hit demolish... then I could press the button again ... character looked like it did it again on a proc. so IM guessing thats just all buggy atm

[undone beacon]

I swear to god

idek with these people

[daring marlin]

lol

sadge

[stiff inlet]

Did a quick 10 skyreach was so laggy lol

[winged zenith]

Demolish is disaster spell what makes colossus play so bad

[harsh trellis]

What???

[winged zenith]

Hate channeling as a war

[harsh trellis]

yeah but it hits hard 😄

its great to line it up with a ton of stacks and avatar

[onyx hearth]

What do you mean?

Demolish hits hard = FUN

[winged zenith]

Thunderclap easier for collecting agro on start

Charge clap avatar clap ez

[onyx hearth]

You are right

[harsh trellis]

you still get thunderclap

[onyx hearth]

Maybe he is talking about the blast

[harsh ermine]

I love how disconnected the wowhead class guides for the voidforge bonus roll items are.

Nearly no1 is raiding mythic and the list is based on mythic raid loot...
Lol...

[lusty grotto]

well... the bis lists are also based on mythic raid loot with some keys loot sprinkled in

its not any different

also, just a heads up but we dont support wowhead anymore for the prot guides

we're strictly icy-veins in here

anyway any pick in those guides is not as accurate as a good ole sim

[slender bison]

NA people, how many maintenance hours you got last night?

[lusty grotto]

its still night in NA

midnight, actually

[slender bison]

Roll credits

[brave tartan]

EU players right now
LET ME IN

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fBaKonZPn6P15kJNfZQ2iv

[lusty grotto]

you mean during the day for us

[dusky canopy]

:)

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1496363825312567316/melvin.gif?ex=69e99ce9&is=69e84b69&hm=406eca90db2493e51cf142a41fc5ec04b1079060cf0cc1597b24ec84d8b9477b&

[plush tendon]

hmmm

do I take a socket or a reroll

[undone beacon]

gold

[plush tendon]

[dusky canopy]

socket if you have myth item to put it on

imo

[lusty grotto]

i fucking knew it

the second im active on disc after afking

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/h2di-cat-dead

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-morning-pearto-teto-kasane-gif-15578854059991912799

[plush tendon]

we went sockie

good call Brew

[lusty grotto]

sockie dn

wait a minute...

https://klipy.com/gifs/peace-out-83

[plush tendon]

now ya boi needs to farm seat/windrunner XD

280 I level

still have two champ pieces

like a scrub

[lusty grotto]

im just now gonna check warrior's vault

chipadin got the ring that never drops

shearchip got uhh hero track tier gloves

[polar atlas]

Stupid question if I get the extra roll from vault and again next week so ill have 4 total can i double roll on the same raid boss?

[lusty grotto]

cause shearchip only delved

[plush tendon]

oh wait, the PVP qusetline has a hero neck

im a dummy

[toxic pewter]

just did my first key as colossus

bonked a ton of dudes was a lot of fun actually

[vocal owl]

How was the dam?

[toxic pewter]

pretty solid dam

[brave tartan]

pretty sure you get one roll and would have to kill again to roll?

[toxic pewter]

if i say so myself

it was a pit of saron i did 95.3k according to log

no idea if thats any good tho compared to others or whatever i dont really pay mcuh attention to m+ dam

at least rankings i should say

[plush tendon]

it felt fine in raid

was swapping between Col and MT on Alleria

and tried Col on Paladins

[vocal owl]

Is it playing same Way

[plush tendon]

but I dont think the variance between the two is all that different

100% a play what you prefer angle

[lusty grotto]

myth chest

so not bad at all

[vocal owl]

Is the playstyle the same?

[lusty grotto]

no

[harsh trellis]

this is dumb why is the bot telling me to take this belt

[polar atlas]

even if im saved to that raid boss?

[mighty valley]

item levels

you can set the sim to show you everything at max upgraded ilvl

[vocal owl]

How is it then?

[lusty grotto]

thane is TB > SS > TC > Rev/Exe
colossus is SS > Rev >= TC (depending on rage and SS cd)

that's the gist of it

[vocal owl]

But rev is spending rage so we Only use SS to build?

[lusty grotto]

and TC depending if you need rage and SS is on cd

[vocal owl]

So basic the same?

[lusty grotto]

but there's enough rage saves for revenge to just spam the shit out of it

[queen sigil]

is colossus better than thane at the moment?

[lusty grotto]

read pins

[queen sigil]

gorgeous thank you

[lusty grotto]

no u

[polar atlas]

For the single target raid build for Colossus Im thinking about getting rid of DA for DW for the bonus damage

[lusty grotto]

sure, go for it

[polar atlas]

is it worth it tho

is my question

[lusty grotto]

but thats just execute phase damage

[polar atlas]

I want MAX damage

[lusty grotto]

you can sim

you can sim talent swaps

[polar atlas]

trueeee

[slender bison]

Whats the play now? Defer vault pick until you do the weekly rolls for mythic item?

[lusty grotto]

no idea why you would do that

[polar atlas]

dam i have to pay raidbots hahah

[lusty grotto]

a guaranteed item vs a roll vs the dungeon loot table...

and you only have 2

[heady jetty]

Any estimate when servers will be online?

[slender bison]

Oh, so vault and rolls are exclusive to each other?

[lusty grotto]

never bet when you have something guaranteed

[heady jetty]

I mean, if u have a Gaze in the vault, just pick it rather than trying with the roll idd 😄

[lusty grotto]

yes, thats what i just said

[shy python]

This doesn't work anymore. Don't know if it's a bug or intenended

[lusty grotto]

nah just gotta page wolfdisco to remove it

@jagged pier, could you please ask wolfdisco to remove arcane blast cause the reflect hasnt worked for weeks

[harsh trellis]

also why cant we get someone from here to update wowhead

I mean archi does all the dps things

[drowsy comet]

bruh why are the servers offline for so long in EU tf did blizzard smoke

gimme sum of that shi too

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/martina-hill-knallerfrauen-ein-million-dollar-middle-finger-middle-fingers-gif-12876883812427404211

[toxic pewter]

wat that mean

[shy python]

learn german 😛

[harsh trellis]

Still this freakin belt

why

[opal ledge]

yeah it's not working, u can just reflect the bomb

maybe cuz of the avoidance?

wait no, that makes no sense

[drowsy comet]

EU servers offline for the next 4 hours

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto did you bonus roll yet??

[lusty grotto]

nope

[dusky canopy]

Damn are you planning to do pit?

Or thoughts?

[lusty grotto]

i just got on like 2 hours ago, been doing crafting weeklies

yeah im sending pit

[dusky canopy]

Ahh ic that’s a nice chill evening

Goodluck Goodluck

[daring marlin]

Pash and I are glazing you fyi

[lusty grotto]

tomorrow though im sleeping after i finish

[daring marlin]

😏

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

Nim is the goat

Glaze earned

[daring marlin]

pit def a good one to bonus roll

NECK, WEAPON!!!

some plate

[undone beacon]

Literally tho

[harsh trellis]

and it can drop myth track?

[lusty grotto]

i just want the 2h tbh

[dusky canopy]

Ye but must be a +10 or higher

[dusky canopy]

It’ll happen believe!

[daring marlin]

Hope that bug gets fixed???

[harsh trellis]

someone said in raid dont use it in raid

[dusky canopy]

🙏

[harsh trellis]

use in m+

[lusty grotto]

i mean if you do myth chimera, its probably the best pick if you dont have gaze

or even on myth belo'ren

[daring marlin]

shut up dude

I don't wanna pug mythic chim

Although completionist me does...

[undone beacon]

apb pugged mythic chim week 1

Like a boss

[daring marlin]

that man has the stomach for the unthinkable

[lusty grotto]

maybe apb will carry us into a myth kill

cause i aint getting in any time soon

i have no idea what the plans are for my guild, but so far i havent seen efforts to recruit, so im not exactly sure whats going on with reforming

[harsh trellis]

were doin myth chimera Thursday

so maybe then

[undone beacon]

That is concerning

[lusty grotto]

i do miss myth raiding

[undone beacon]

My guild isn’t the best but we need a consistent dps warr and are kinda cute n shit

We’re on dragons rn lol

[lusty grotto]

let me see what happens this week i guess

[harsh trellis]

the fights are very fun to work on

saladbar is tough but... were just progging on that atm

[undone beacon]

Plus we could use a cranker tank in the little m+ group we’re trying to work on lmao

Salhadaar is 100% a tank fight

[harsh trellis]

yeah

we are having fun with that

like legit fun

[undone beacon]

Once ours got the dance it went down p easy

I was out for first real dragon prog night and as a priest I ain’t looking forward to it

tiny legs waddling around

[bleak breach]

Yeah we’re on dragons now as well

Salad wasn’t too bad, aslong as you get positioning right early it’s easy and stopping the dps seeing like 15% health on the boss and tunneling.

[fringe mural]

Consistent as in is there?

or as in deals dps consistently

[undone beacon]

Both

[fringe mural]

good thing i'm EU because i could provide neither!

still waiting for the patch 😕

how long were servers down on your end?

[solid sun]

Pash literally has the best dps warrior in their guild

smh

[fringe mural]

is it you?

[solid sun]

Yep

[undone beacon]

Your warrior isn’t even in my guild >:(

Too cool for us

[solid sun]

It's there in spirit

[undone beacon]

hmph

[solid sun]

The survival hunter is there

That's basically a dps warrior

[coarse bay]

Pash has the coolest dps warrnter ive ever seen

[vital panther]

is Thane still just sending about 1200 haste and then crit? do we get any vers?

[lofty glen]

so my friends. still both hero specs playable or did we got any late changes?

[toxic pewter]

both def playable

u guys think veteren vitality any good

[elfin elk]

huge BSV synergy

[bleak breach]

Isn’t it just second wind again but costs a higher talent point?

[charred shard]

YAAAAS

that's it, I've won the world of warcraft

[upbeat sable]

any list of embelish i should get ? i got arcano and the 2nd stat proc on wep and shield. trying to craft wrist

[coarse bay]

@toxic pewter I’ve relinquished raiding duties for the season

More keys now surely

[fading pulsar]

Anyone know if they reverted the option to buy Nebulous Voidcores from the vault keeper with the vault pity currency?

Said in the patch notes you could, but not seeing the option

[coarse bay]

You can

Do you have the tokens unlocked

[fading pulsar]

Do you need to complete the weekly for the 6th time for it to unlock?

[coarse bay]

Yes

[fading pulsar]

Aight, tyty

[coarse bay]

[drowsy comet]

prot warri got gaze, me happy

but my rshaman arc starts today so idc

[upbeat sable]

heya guys, any list of embelish i should get ? i got arcano and the 2nd stat proc on wep and shield. trying to craft wrist

[buoyant mirage]

is 4 ilvl on shield from vault worth? Ive got other 2 myth track pieces that would be like 20+ ilvl upgrades if I sent myth crests

[heavy sparrow]

Sim and check your Stat weight value

[fading pulsar]

You'll get more out of upgrading the other mythtrack pieces

[buoyant mirage]

yeah, but id craft 285 embellishment wrists then

hmm

[heavy sparrow]

List which embellishments you like the sound of

[drowsy comet]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/spell=1271698/unbound-manawyrm#modelviewer mama mia what a mount

embed failed sadge

[fading pulsar]

That from doing the new Void world quests?

[ionic fern]

I love rshaman,but it's supposedly so bland right now.:(

[upbeat sable]

haha i am trying to get the list which one is best to use., fcken wowhead stuck when using GearUP booster

[drowsy comet]

idc im sick of resto druid, and the shaman discord is pretty cool too

discord druid is kinda..whatever

[drowsy comet]

Yea

[drowsy comet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/7-new-mounts-coming-in-midnight-patch-12-0-5-381309

full list here

kinda easy mounts to get tbh

[heavy sparrow]

Check the top fellas in your class spec on your server or in your region and try to break down why they chose that embellishment is always generally a good idea outside of simming

[quartz palm]

Vault question. Do I go Myth Puzzle box or Myth head I have a heroic version of both already

[toxic pewter]

fyi do not charge the final boss of magisteers terrace

shit pathing charged me right into the line and stunned me

[upbeat sable]

thank you

[quaint vessel]

soo are we able to reroll the vault now? Should i wait with grabbing my item if theres only trash inside?

[vital stirrup]

you cant reroll vault

you can get bonus rolls now to use in raids/m+ so if your entire vault is shit you can get a 3rd roll token

[quaint vessel]

so i just take whatever tf is in vault and get additional stuff later

[vital stirrup]

no if you want the extra bonus roll instead of vault you take the tokens from the vault and buy the extra roll with them

these tokens at the bottom

[drowsy comet]

Nope

[chilly brook]

Honestly, I almost wonder if it’s better to just take the tokens if you don’t get BiS items in vault

[drowsy comet]

try it out

if u dont get ur BiS, u wait another week

[chilly brook]

I’m leveling another warrior so I might tbh

But I have a feeling (no maths or anything) that being able to just pick a key that has a ton of stuff you could use+bis items is just a better use of vault choice than a meh vault piece

[naive ravine]

I mean its just another gamble

You also can bonus roll absolute trash

• currently bonus rolls are bugged (?)

Giving duplicates

[drowsy comet]

gamble all ur gold away

and money

50-50 if you loose all or win 25000% of it

you never know

[vital stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/607249004987678722/1496403865493569608/image.png?ex=69e9c233&is=69e870b3&hm=26ba15698692e9e3fe756b787f8ecf7c08d9619ec21a7ebb3acc317ea3ec50e6&

shield looks pretty good, i have the ring on hero

[chilly brook]

The bug will be fixed, but if there’s five items in a key for you and let’s say 3 are good to great, after one week you’ve gotten at least one good item and have removed the possibility of getting anything meh from said dungeon in the next week

[drowsy comet]

Holy, big money today

[fading pulsar]

Does anyone know if you can use the bonus loot, get an item, say, chest piece, and then upgrade it into a set chest with the big ilvl increase?

[frigid valley]

so if i need a 1hander should i spend coins in AA or seat? AA seems better since a shield too, but has some very shit items too, seat has alot of items to be gained but its a BIG list of items in there and no shield

[unique axle]

is it a chestpiece angle?

i could get gaze to get rid of this stupid puzzlebox too...

[vital stirrup]

the upgrades is only for weapon/trinkets iirc

[crisp mango]

Does any1 know why when I sim Prot it tends to not show haste upgrades as a dps increase? I am currently sitting at 948 haste base, using the crit mastery sword, but I have the Aleria hammer with haste crit in vault. It just sims lower dps... Item set both to 289 with same enchant. Is there a way to get a good idea of how haste actually plays out for us? B/c i swear it just feels better

[naive ravine]

Could you link the sim?

[marble girder]

What potions are people popping in m+?

is it just light's potential?

[jagged pier]

i dont

[jagged pier]

simming is only for dps, if u have low other stats it will contribute more to your dps to get more of your lower stats depending how low they are etc

[unkempt hazel]

lol potions

im poor

[crisp mango]

@naive ravine Can in a bit, thanks for any help

[naive ravine]

Potions are only like 40 gold

[pastel geyser]

wow i was right to buy like 10 tokens at 310k a few days ago lol

what even happened that token price shot up like this

[drowsy comet]

i bought 2 myself today

less broke now

[pastel geyser]

oh i bought them for gold xD

to have them

used like 2 for game time and kept the rest

anyone else stuck here?

[vast cliff]

is coloss now worth playing with the cdr change ?

[jagged pier]

it was fine before

this just brings it inline with thane

[vocal owl]

What dung is best to use bonus Roll on? If I dont have any Myth items?

[jagged pier]

thats soley dependent on your char

[vocal owl]

Is there not a clear bis items?

[jagged pier]

bis list, isnt a thing, and whats best for your is soley based on your char or stats what content u do

[naive ravine]

Theatre of Pain is a good dungeon to use it on

[jagged pier]

hate that place ad to run it for that caster trinket for a friend

and he never got it

[naive ravine]

The gem that gave on use crit

[jagged pier]

cant remeber im not a caster i just know what why we were running it

[naive ravine]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=178809/soulletting-ruby

What a good time

(The last season of SL)

[fringe venture]

Yo guys, I think I gonna do reroll thing before picking vault and then based on what I get, I'll go vault. On vault I got belt, gaunlets (tier) and a non bis shield, all myth btw. I'm thinking in doing reroll on PIT, for neck and 2h for arms spec or SEAT for myth gaunlets, but as in the way I might get something that is on vault, I Will see. Just wanted to share my opinión.

[wanton tide]

yo - dont know what to take only trash i guess

[jagged pier]

myth tier piece is not trash

[pastel geyser]

solar core aint bad no?

but ye myth helmet is good

donjons

[unkempt hazel]

on hero core felt quite underwhelming

idk if myth is any better

[cerulean tusk]

If all is trash, you can take the bonus roll/socket instead

Those trinkets aint half bad for d value either

[raw wharf]

Im a prot warrior, and I pulled a mythic track Algethar's Puzzle Box out of the vault yesterday. Amazing trinket, but upon further research it seems best suited for raiding and I mainly run mythic+, so im trying to figure out the best way to use it.

Right now im thinking it would work best as a pre-pull trinket for trash mobs as the mastery increase would smooth out the damage intake during large pulls. Obviously I can use it more offensively during certain boss mechanics.

Any thoughts on how to best use Algethar's Puzzle Box as a prot warrior during dungeons?

[pastel geyser]

wasnt the jelly pretty shit?

[drowsy comet]

Bruh our Mage trolled the whole party and instead of summoning the midnight silvermoon, he casts the TBC silvermoon...everyone was so pissed

[pastel geyser]

ah just like dalaran crater in legion

a classic

[drowsy comet]

damn mages...

[wanton tide]

ty

[naive ravine]

Yeah you should check out yodas video on Prot pala, he explains how he uses Puzzel box as a tank in +20 keys

[cerulean tusk]

It is the "cheath death" shield one, no? It got some neat passive shielding built in

Not especially strong, not aweful either

[naive ravine]

Its super awful

You dont want shielding at times where you dont need it

Rather take an on use def trinket that I can time with my def cds

[cerulean tusk]

Passive is passive

[naive ravine]

Might aswell take a passive haste or crit increase

[cerulean tusk]

You could argue that, sure

[naive ravine]

And considering he has one of the two def trinkets from M+ there is no way he should take the jelly thing

[cerulean tusk]

Maybe he already got solar

I dont know

Ppl already pointed to solar, no need to do so over again

[naive ravine]

You said the jelly thing is not awful and I said its hella awful

[unkempt hazel]

so going by the average its just awful

not hella awful

[naive ravine]

Considering you can, starting today, farm mythic tier trinkets I would consider any trinket that performs mediocre or worse hella awful

[cerulean tusk]

You dont see value in passive shielding and cheat death. I see value in it

We just got to agree to disagree on what aweful entails

[naive ravine]

The sad part is, that when you start accounting for actual facts and logs, that your "argument" is false. Talking from an objective stand point there is no reason to use that. Ofc you can use it, then you might aswell run 1/4 apex.

[woeful trellis]

Can you Roll 2 times After Finishing a M+ or do you need to do it again?
And can you Roll 2 times in raid if u have 4 of the coins?

[autumn garnet]

Why are class tuning only for Meta class ? Brewmaster got 3% up . Monk already do twice dmg from prot Warrior … I don t understand the goal of blizzard

[naive ravine]

Its for the Hero tree no one uses

[plain lotus]

Sirs i once again come for ur wisdom. What is your pref used options as simming pwarr with raidbots?

[drowsy comet]

bro are people really this dumb?? Tank quit before last boss and everybody else left too, I aint taking a 30min penalty

[naive ravine]

Im pretty sure the moment the first guy leaves you can leave with no penalty

[drowsy comet]

sure?

i queued for a different dungeon just fine without any penalty :D

[naive ravine]

So it worked?

[drowsy comet]

apparently yea

[naive ravine]

Nice

[pastel geyser]

this game is trolling me every week i get atleast 1 loot i had in previous vault.. what

last week it was a belt i already had EQUIPPED

now its puzzlebox again.. like last week

guess im taking the haste/versa cloak

[naive ravine]

Take it

The puzzel box

[pastel geyser]

noooo

[naive ravine]

Its calling your name

[pastel geyser]

i feel like its gonna be a mistake xD

[naive ravine]

One AA first pull with puzzel box and you are addicted

[naive ravine]

You get tons of mythic itemd anyway this season

So why not

[pastel geyser]

ig

does having an item at mythlvl remove it frm bonus roll pool?

or do u have to bonus roll it

tell me its the 2nd cuz i can see blizz doing idiotic shit like that

[naive ravine]

I think bonus roll

Could be wrong tho

But u wont roll on AA anyways

You also could take the tokens

Eith 6 you can buy a bonus roll

[pastel geyser]

ooh

you can buy bonus roll with 6 tokens?

ah fk i didnt do 8 dungeons last week cuz i was lazy, only 4 tokens lol

guess ill grab the cloak

[crisp ocean]

is details broken?

[harsh trellis]

yeah

[pastel geyser]

oh is it gonna be like the first week of midnight where im getting 30 lua errors per second?

[harsh trellis]

it just locks up when combat starts

[drowsy comet]

so many addosn are broken

[jagged pier]

thats not unexpected

blizzard were quite open about what they were going to fix

[drowsy comet]

fix? they fucked up so many things

[harsh trellis]

honestly disabling details has fixed a lot of my lua bugs ive been experiencing

[unkempt hazel]

its fine to leave silly

[jagged pier]

no they fixed a lot of holes in there stuff that the RWF guilds found and used

so if theres anyone to blame its RWF guilds

[unkempt hazel]

alright im on it

[harsh trellis]

yeah once the timer goes over you wont get that penalty

[unkempt hazel]

shaking my fist in anger in the direction of rwf guilds

[ocean smelt]

No, it's still Blizz for this dogshit decision

[harsh trellis]

Not defending it one way or another but, what do you feel you are missing? (weak auras aside)

[naive ravine]

Wasnt blizzard the one that broke it first? Saying RWF guild caused this is just wrong.

[ocean smelt]

Well it's mostly weak aura to be fair 😄 but from my perspective the general idea of not letting people be free with addons is dumb regardless of how intensively I use them myself or not

[tribal wharf]

THE PEOPLE OF SKY HOLD OFTEN ASK YOGI:

why dont you play like, resident evil

[harsh trellis]

Yeah, I get that, however the weak auras were getting so silly. They were literally playing the game for us.

[tribal wharf]

and like other horror games similiar to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCddlUy8-q8

this is my answer

i was playing horror games since 1988 when i would have been 5 years old

well, this one came out 1990 or 1991, so i would have been 7 or 8

[harsh trellis]

do you have minor back pain?

[tribal wharf]

it sort of killed the urge to play "guy with shot gun at night on abandoned property, with a shotgun, blasting the hell out of demons/ the undead"

that along with doom

and wolfenstien 3d

[harsh trellis]

Evil dead on playstation 2 was fun

[tribal wharf]

where im killing demons from hell, and nazis from germany

it made me like them alot more, but it got alot of that crap out of my system very young

[warm plinth]

@tribal wharf I saw a video a couple days ago where someone made one of the Zelda games in the style of Doom. It was pretty sick

[tribal wharf]

but like, thats sort of what makes doom and all of its derivatives and whatever so magical

[harsh trellis]

So the in game dps meter

[tribal wharf]

its just, you, and you have to kill them to escape!

[harsh trellis]

its silly we have to use edit to move that, but any other windows we create are just click and move

[tribal wharf]

if you dont you die!, same dudes, same weapons different places

its always engaging somehow

[coral quartz]

Sory not really kept up with the new voidcore upgrade, WOWhead suggests to use it on a wep from a dungeon is that even if you crafted a wep

[vocal owl]

Can i buy s bonus Roll for tokens from last week?

[unkempt hazel]

probably

its still the same tokens innit

[limber drum]

I need some help with vault

can i get some input

[ivory barn]

Buying the tokens with veteran crests was kinda nice

[limber drum]

Which one of these is my best choice?

[deft marsh]

Hey all, maybe not the right place for it but I decided to swap from heals to tanking. 3300io disc priest, rolled and geared a prot.

But there is definitely a learning curve - any good resources you would recommend?

[harsh trellis]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-guide

[deft marsh]

Thank you! Sorry - should have specified. I’ve gone through the prot warrior guides here, but looking for good resources on routing, pulls, tanking in general

[harsh trellis]

https://threechest.io/

https://keystone.guru/

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1266837564925673596

[deft marsh]

Much appreciated

[harsh trellis]

I love the randomness of loot

same ring

one from void event

[severe star]

are the void tokens still bugged with m+

[harsh trellis]

then from the apex cache

[buoyant mirage]

honestly, I look at topicx's routes, he has a word doc with his current routing. There are other tanks who share their routes on their yt channels. I pick them, adjust to my group and we go. 🤷‍♂️

[fringe mural]

If you are confident you will get a weapon from another source soon i would go for the belt

did any of you guys already upgrade a shield or is it just weapons and trinkets?

[pallid pine]

Hey! I wanted to ask a question about stance use, can I do it here or should I use another channel?

[severe star]

if you play prot just use defensive stance all the time

[pallid pine]

Oh ok, cause I saw on icyveins that there could be situations I switch to battle

And I haven't ever changed since the beginning of the season so I was wondering if I was missing that

[coral quartz]

These voidcores to upgrade our gear to max rank, the wowhead guide recommends using it on a wep from a dungeon but I have a crafted wep with the same stats should I not just use it on the wep I have?

[stiff inlet]

are the stats the same tho?

crafted doesnt go as high.

[wicked lantern]

You can dabble with using battle stance during times where you aren’t taking melees. Think the soul phase in MC or when Ick and Krick in PoS when he is fixating ppl.

The gain isn’t really worth but it’s a min/max, I guess

[coral quartz]

I was under the impression it raised crafted to max level

[pallid pine]

Hmm ok that seems interesting, so could I do the same for example in raids like Vorasius for example where the other tank is tanking the hits?

[fringe mural]

crafted upgrade goes up to 295

myth upgrade to 298

[harsh trellis]

Doesnt that take a while also?

isnt it like 4 weeks? (maybe im wrong)

[fringe mural]

so it‘s really not that big of a deal unless you do the highest of content

[wicked lantern]

I don’t raid tank so I don’t wanna comment, have no clue if it would work. Seems okay in theory

[harsh trellis]

Youre better off staying in defensive stance

[coral quartz]

You can basically use it in raid when you’re not currently tanking the boss

[harsh trellis]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/bonus-rolls-reportedly-giving-duplicate-items-from-mythic-dungeons-381332?utm_source=discord-webhook

[solid sun]

I heard it’s based off key level

[harsh trellis]

Oh really?

[solid sun]

So if you roll on a 10 and then roll again on a 12 you can get a dupe

But this is just a claim made on social media

Actually they’ve since sent another post saying that doesn’t seem to be correct either

🤷‍♂️

[tribal wharf]

i cant see it immediately if there is a shield option in this

havent bothered to look at all of them yet

but if there is, and it works way i think it does will be buying 10 million of shield ones

doesnt look like it, perhaps weapon?

[solid sun]

My guess is weapon

Can you do the dropdown menu

And select a different class that can also loot shields

Like shaman

[solid sun]

Yay hooray

We were right

[ivory barn]

Where is that at?

[tribal wharf]

gives a good assortment of item

[plush tendon]

this version of bonus rolls is one of the best systems theyve implemented

in a couple of weeks, a brand new toon can get geared so fast from bonus rolls and basically just rolling for a whole set of myth loot

[tribal wharf]

shield badly needs to go with the paladin t2 purple recolour set

still dont have that set somehow

[plush tendon]

where you get that

[solid sun]

Well it could be

[tribal wharf]

that was out of them boxes 1 pic up

[solid sun]

People getting dupes rn

[plush tendon]

yea, its buggy

the whole game was bugged last night though XD

a constant state of 'Fatality' coming through the mic

[ivory barn]

Where is that vendor?

[solid sun]

Have they reenabled housing yet

[tribal wharf]

in the city to the center north

[plush tendon]

the biggest pain in the butt is they buffed Mythic Alleria

and nerfed MM.... our strat for P3 got thrown out the window

[plush tendon]

[solid sun]

That sounds pretty frustrating

[tribal wharf]

looks like this in game

[solid sun]

If you’d like me to kill her for you I could come

[plush tendon]

sorry, you are melee

we already have too many of those

[ivory barn]

Thank you

[solid sun]

Baby I can be whatever you want me to be

[plush tendon]

this tier is fun, but it feels so comp restricted in mythic

[fringe mural]

Just wait for flex myth, maybe it gets better

[plush tendon]

my War is juiced though

still no gaze and I got a champ neck

but we vibin

[fringe mural]

i find it really you don‘t really need to raid or m+ a lot and can still get good gear

[solid sun]

No

[plush tendon]

oh 100%

you dont need to raid for good loot

[solid sun]

You’re just too good

[plush tendon]

but raid loot is generally better since it saves like 40-60 crests

in M+ box

or from drops

[fringe mural]

I have ilvl 272 now and havent done a normal raid upwards or more m+ than 12

like 12 keys in total

[plush tendon]

same

oh, you mean only 12 keys

LMAO

[fringe mural]

yeah

[solid sun]

Goober

[plush tendon]

I gotta do the 4 per week

[fringe mural]

i started doing them two weeks ago only

[plush tendon]

nice

my roommate just hit 90 on his brand new Prot WAr

cant wait to game with him and teach him our ways

[fringe mural]

in my first myth vault last week i got the indestructible mythic shield

[plush tendon]

😮

huge shield

[fringe mural]

and today i haven‘t checked yet

[plush tendon]

we still havnt seen the shield drop off first boss

was really counting on that like.... 5 weeks ago

when I didnt take a myth shield from vault XD

[ivory barn]

Guess I need to start tanking instead of fury dps keys now since everyone thinks the fury nerfs went through. And applying to 10's is like end of season 20's

[plush tendon]

dude, im ngl

its not spec for 10-12

[fringe mural]

Yeah it was really lucky, it was my only vault slot at 272

[plush tendon]

key fill up so fucking fast

I posted a AA at 11pm last night

in less then 30 seconds felt like I had 100 sign ups

I could not keep track

[heavy sparrow]

I think DPS are thirsty for tanks this season

[plush tendon]

there just arent enough tanks

which is great

insta invites for me

[fringe mural]

If you want to quick farm 3k you can just open +13 groups with your own key

and downgrade any new one back to 13

[daring marlin]

the pug experien ce as dps vs tank is night and day

yet you have dudes in here going "people don't invite me cuz I'm not a brew" like bruh

[plush tendon]

ill be real, ive never seen a key fill up so fast

[fringe mural]

i will try for 3k next after i‘ve done all on +10

[plush tendon]

dps be rapid dogs trying to get into weekly keys

[fringe mural]

Yeah you can just choose 3,5k bois with 275ilvl

freely

[plush tendon]

usually I pick people for my keys based on name

like, funny name you in

[fringe mural]

that‘s nice

[plush tendon]

or if I see a spec I havnt had in my group in a while

Havocs get insta invites

[fringe mural]

My biggest issue is time

[heavy sparrow]

People are starting to throw out compliments last week saying things like "you're the best tank I've seen all season" and "you're a good tank" and I'm thinking these poor fellas are so dehydrated from content

[daring marlin]

I invite Warrior tanks when they queue up

but if I inspect and they're 1/4 apex I'm givin' them the boot

[plush tendon]

oh, shamans also get insta invite

if I dont have one

[heavy sparrow]

Good call

Balance druids instant invite for me

[daring marlin]

resto bis

ele too hit or miss to me now

they're either giga pumpers or noodlebolts

[ivory barn]

I think this is more a "we need to keep the tanks around" tactic

[plush tendon]

Ele super CD reliant

but in Ascendance they PUMP

so they good on certain keys

but I also pull like a psychopath

[heavy sparrow]

100%

[fringe mural]

Good man

[heavy sparrow]

Hence why the compliments doesn't stick :/

[fringe mural]

Getting complimented as a tank feels a little like a „you go girl“

so i tank again

[heavy sparrow]

I befriended a survival hunter who absolutely blew up the meters

[fringe mural]

i mean i‘m rusty af with not having raided or run keys in years

and +10‘s are still pretty easy

[heavy sparrow]

Bizarre spec

[ivory barn]

People still do this?

[tribal wharf]

hold your ground and dont fold to pressure is my best advise

[broken jacinth]

Just gearing up my warrior, 0/4 tier at the moment, I assume take the tier breastplate? solar core igniter seemed like a good option too

[tribal wharf]

just gotta do what you know is the right thing to do

[fringe mural]

so i don‘t really see how they are hard for people who actively played in tww

[daring marlin]

somehow yes

[coarse bay]

If you can get up to 10s this week, take a bonus token

[fringe mural]

Tier chest is your biggest upgrade imo

[coarse bay]

Tier should be pretty much free by now

[fringe mural]

or you could take legs

And transform

[broken jacinth]

I think I have 3 sparks, could do that too

[fringe mural]

he can take the token and use it next week

But has to run a 10 next week then to use it

oh man you gave me an idea

[broken jacinth]

definitely don't take the solar core though?

[fringe mural]

if you don‘t have a myth vault slot yet

you can just take the token on any 90 char

[coarse bay]

Id take bonus token if i was in that position personally

A myth item is more valuable than any of those

[plush tendon]

yea, you should take token

and roll for a myth piece

[fringe mural]

But some people don‘t go +10 very quickly

[plush tendon]

then save up the bonus rolls

you can stack a bunch

once you get to 10 keystones, you can have a bunch

[fringe mural]

But ya, take the tokens, gear with delves or lower m+

And then spend it all

In 10s

[ivory barn]

6's give hero gear

[plush tendon]

bonus roll best new catchup

just let time tick, give you easy myth loot

[ivory barn]

I'm perma in Nexus till I get the mythic set rings

[plush tendon]

i had to send my reroll on Myth Chim

I got the chest and was given boot

why couldnt I just get the god dang trinket (I know why, last on prio and dps get it first.... but still!)

[onyx vale]

Dragon Games Equipment trinket worth to take from vault ?

[jagged pier]

no

[undone beacon]

Big sim bait trinket

[onyx vale]

yeah, I see...

[plush tendon]

its a dumb trinket

me and my homies all hate the soccer trinket

[warm plinth]

Don't hate on my beloved DGE

[shut summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/118482857122332672/1496323039904665661/image.png?ex=69e976ed&is=69e8256d&hm=f2db6191167ea59c1d18e1ed8c1dfd896f82d2a9e7947267b607a816623c0aac&

our kill last nite xd

[warm plinth]

Any gazes in the chat

[fluid widget]

What are yall doing after you roll for mythic chim/vorasius?

[plush tendon]

One dropped with Speed

and it was given to a DK to upgrade his hero track one

I was so madge

but it was bigger raw dps increase though

[cursive hemlock]

Guys what are the good dungeons for sending the extra void core if your vault is bad? Both academy and seat looked ok but surely there's another one

[plush tendon]

im rolling for Chim (next week surely I get gaze)

then prob... idk

maybe rings?

or ill save and use em for Bird boss

[fringe mural]

are rings really that good compared to l'ura ring and another?

[plush tendon]

you getting lura ring?

[fringe mural]

they don't have str so

The difference between hero and myth isn't that big

But socket is socket

and 270 haste is crazy even on hero

[plush tendon]

its basically socket vs cantrip

I think cantrip wins out

[fluid widget]

Why bird oO

[plush tendon]

but I cant be sure

[frozen berry]

so is the bonus rolls bugged?

[plush tendon]

still need shield and the plume would be good

[fringe mural]

Can we upgrade shield or just weapon?

no one knows yet right

if it counts as weapon

[frosty mango]

Shields are considered weapons

So I assume shield can be upgraded

[undone beacon]

I legit may be one of the only dps in the raid that doesn’t have a Gaze at all

Pretty sure everyone else has hero or myth gaze

I think 4 people pulled one out of vault this week, a few last week, and we’ve gotten 1 natty drop in raid

[fringe mural]

You have wisdom of xalatath

that's better

[ivory barn]

I got gaze/crit raid one

[daring marlin]

@plush tendon damn, pugging and sending reroll on mythic chim is like the only thing that makes sense

spec prot, only drops tier chest, gaze and boots

[undone beacon]

Get into the mythic chim pug trenches

[daring marlin]

all of which I need at mythic track anyway

[ivory barn]

Is M Chim hard to pug?

[daring marlin]

I'll try after the gym

[undone beacon]

In theory no, in practice it’s a pain in the ass

[pallid pine]

I'm thinking of picking the omission of light, its a direct upgrade to my hero track omission

[undone beacon]

It essentially boils down to
-Can the pugs kick fears in intermission
-Can the pugs learn to not walk on top of eachother
-Can the pugs deal enough damage to kill boss before 2nd intermission

[undone beacon]

[pallid pine]

Yeah sim says I get more dps from the ring

[undone beacon]

Then take the ring

Easy

[pallid pine]

Yessir

[ivory barn]

That last one is the DPS race

[undone beacon]

mmhm

[daring marlin]

gonna go demo on my warlock cuz blizzard hate destro

[ivory barn]

Logs are drunk and need to go home, say I got a 0 parse on every boss we did last night

I was just wanting to go check uptime and DPS

[warm plinth]

Good morning cuties

How are we all doing

[severe star]

bug fix time it seems

[harsh trellis]

Looking at trucks

[ivory barn]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KHTj8MVy6xLhAga9

Am I just blind, all the kills show a 0 parse. Only reason we wiped on saladbar was limit testing a ball

[plush tendon]

doing well

[harsh trellis]

nope the rankings are all going to be like that

some of them show on mythic

[plush tendon]

deciding if I should get dunks or wait till lunch and get McDs

[harsh trellis]

but most of them are 0

[warm plinth]

Trucks? You shopping for one?

[harsh trellis]

D's

[harsh trellis]

a 2023 Tremor with lower mileage

[ivory barn]

The RL said "what truly happens if boss eats a ball" LOL

[plush tendon]

is that dunks or McDs

it could be either

[warm plinth]

Nice. I have always wanted a truck but I have no reason to own one and I like my 38mpg corolla 😭

[solid sun]

You can be my passenger princess

[warm plinth]

[harsh trellis]

I like that also

also reliable

But I wanted a truck for a long time

been savin up

[warm plinth]

When we meeting up? Pick an applebees

[harsh trellis]

LOL dunks