protection

[naive ravine]

I ran most my runs with pres tho and we blasted every key

[sharp gale]

[naive ravine]

+3 Pit 12

[plush tendon]

listen, until todays reset a +12 was the PINNICLE of M+

anything more was useless unless you were going for title

[harsh trellis]

Going for 3400 this week and try to get my resi 16

[undone beacon]

Yeah but thats why 10-12s is full of vault key shitters and the real cool kids are gonna fill their vault with push keys

[sharp gale]

I’ve seen some 270 ppl I questioned how they know how to breath irl

[undone beacon]

Too bad the new mounts for 3400 are just recolors of the goblin tank and deathwalker

[plush tendon]

I just run with friends on their rat alts

[undone beacon]

Though i do like the goblin tank

Gonna throw my first saddle at the BFA KSM mount since i didnt play that season

[plush tendon]

we had this as our healer in a bunch of rat 10s

granted, hes gained like 40 I level since we did keys and hero raid

but still

[undone beacon]

rdruid supremacy

I did a 15 pit with a 255 rsham and it was shockingly smooth

[plush tendon]

just further proves that healers dont need loot

[undone beacon]

Its almost like class knowledge and game skill is an important factor to doing well

[sharp gale]

Give me loot not healer yes

[plush tendon]

also, big news

my wow classic playing roommate is playing retail now

and hes leveling a Prot War

[undone beacon]

Lured in with the promise of an easy season?

[naive ravine]

Average chad

[lofty warren]

To get 1x out of 5 of the voidstorm thing you have to do 3x dungeons? Did everylne else know to do this bs? I've been doing plenty of dungeons just not while having the quests to collect the bs

[plush tendon]

well, TBC guild collasped and theres nothing to do

[undone beacon]

Everyone has been doing it pepega

Theres nothing else to do

[plush tendon]

plus, Midnight is pretty fun

[undone beacon]

Midnight has been quite fun, despite the predictions of doomers

[plush tendon]

but im training him in the ways of the prot war

he was unaware that he needs to worry about SB uptime

[lofty warren]

Did you know that you needed to do the quests before 12.5 was aanounced?

[plush tendon]

but hes learning fast

[undone beacon]

Considering that they have a big purple quest marker that indicates "important for a system in the game", yes pepega

[lofty warren]

Ffs I always ignore unless I know i need to do it

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

gotta do the purple quests

[undone beacon]

If you see a purple quest, that is blizzard telling you that you absolutely need to do this quest to interact with a system

[lofty warren]

There's purple shit for things like pet battle

[plush tendon]

that is Ion telling you 'Hey! Do this quest! Its special!'

no, thats cap

theres no purple quest marker for pet battles

[noble glacier]

Is there a list of quests you need?

[undone beacon]

Yeah theres not purple quests for pet battles goober

[vital stirrup]

Its the same quest x6

[undone beacon]

Just the "Building the Voidforge" quests with Decimus in Voidstorm

[tribal wharf]

i should really get on this alts thing

[plush tendon]

fr fr on god no cap. Straight outta the wazoo unc

[undone beacon]

6x quests to get 3x elementary voidshards, which drop from raids/delves/dungeons

[tribal wharf]

i got a million it feels like of this warbound crap

[lofty warren]

So im only at 2/5 now I need tp do the quest 4 more times (12 dungeons) to get bonus rolls?

[undone beacon]

So essentially you need to do 18 delves/raid bosses/dungeons to unlock the void forge

[undone beacon]

If you've turned it in twice then yes

6 times total

[vital stirrup]

Or do delves

[undone beacon]

12 dungeons, delves, or raid bosses

[vital stirrup]

If tier 1 counts it would be faster

[lofty warren]

Do you need to get 6 to upgrade shield to 298?

[undone beacon]

Yes

[tribal wharf]

6 hours down?

[vital stirrup]

You need to finish the quest line to get the questline to make the hammer

[tribal wharf]

7 am till 3pm?

[vital stirrup]

For the upgrades

[undone beacon]

The upgrade system comes after you get the reroll forge

[tribal wharf]

i should finish rest of quests on warrior

i did enough of main story to get into raid basically

[lofty warren]

Getting up to 6/6 is warbound wide?

[plush tendon]

yea

[lofty warren]

After you get 6/6 how do you get 2x bonus rolls each week

[undone beacon]

you give decimus some gold/marl/vet crests and get hands you the reroll

[lofty warren]

Nice. And for the 298 upgrade do you only get 1 or can you get one per week? I assume that it should always be shield that is upgraded

[naive ravine]

There is a purple quest for housing that is not needed

[undone beacon]

I mean, its needed for housing which is technically tied to progression as its a crest source

[naive ravine]

I have not once set foot into a house

My house are M+ keys

[glass fox]

Hey, I’m pretty new to prot warrior, just started playing it 3 weeks ago. I can’t tell if I’m doing stuff wrong or if I’m being limited by my gear. Last night I got folded three times in the left wing of NXP. I don’t have logs for that, unfortunately, but I do have logs for other keys.

I find I’m really struggling gather mobs for the pull. I throw my weapon at them and they run in, and I lose aggro before I can t-clap them.

[naive ravine]

I found it, exactly 109 keys

[vital stirrup]

They haven't mentioned a cap only that its a random drop from delves, prey, m+ and raid

[glass fox]

Oh there is a log review channel. Mb.

[molten epoch]

What key lvl and what ilvl are you? This is partially on DPS sometimes, especially if you're like 255 and your DPS is a 275 devourer who's itching to use their ramp on the next pack you pull but all you did was make eye contact with the pack

[naive ravine]

Send your ign/logs and other can help, even here

[glass fox]

Thanks! I appreciate it. I just posted in log review. I can send here too if you’d like? I just don’t want to clutter up the chat. My warrior is Aaurum-Maiev. I timed my first few 15s at 252 ilvl, and now I’m 270 struggling to get my last one - Nexus Point

[frosty mango]

Left wing of nxp specifically - there’s a bleed/heal absorb that the shadow guards do that will scuff you if your healer isn’t tracking

[harsh trellis]

And the mana batteries

That dps won't swap to

[glass fox]

I got kicked from three groups back to back last night. One of them I nearly outhealed the shaman on first pull. All three groups kicked me (definitely tuned my ego lol). So I gotta figure out what I can do differently.

For mana batteries should I be tanking the mobs on them? I’ve heard one of the mobs empowers them if it’s close (I think it’s the seer but I honestly don’t know)

[naive ravine]

Yep already saw and looked a bit

[frosty mango]

If you’re being kicked from multiple distinct groups this is almost certainly a you problem, and probably a pretty major one in your gameplay.

We’d really need to see some logs to make better commentary

[undone beacon]

Seer will empower the bombs that are sitting around, dont ever bring seers near bombs. Active bombs also fall off of engineers when you kill them

[harsh trellis]

You said you dont have logs of the 15

But your 14 looked fine

[glass fox]

Sometimes my logs for incomplete keys don’t load. Let me double check I don’t have them.

[glass fox]

Ok! Thank you

[harsh trellis]

Yeah they should be there

[fringe mural]

And why is it different today?

[undone beacon]

because new reward at 3400

[fringe mural]

Just cosmetics?

[plush tendon]

its a mount

[glass fox]

Good news! I do have the logs to my NXP

[fringe mural]

so yes

[glass fox]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rnV9LCbY8gDAqTMk

They are incomplete but there

[fringe mural]

+12 was giving 14 myth crests right

and anything higher still gives 3/6 heroic gear and 14 crests per run

i know i know mounts sometimes mean something

but so do titles

but it's not actual ingame performance you're getting if you run +13 or higher

[harsh trellis]

Mana batteries were ignored

[frosty mango]

Your ilvl is pretty low in comparison for 14-15 level, this won’t be a major issue but specially on nxp the stam disparity imo will be cumbersome

You’re prob being kicked bc you have lower ilvl

[undone beacon]

At 3400 you get a Timelost Saddle, which can be traded for either an old KSM/KSL mount or a new recolor of old KSM/KSL mounts. Top 1% gets a special mount. Top .1% gets a title

[fringe mural]

ksm/ksl?

[undone beacon]

Keystone Master (2k io) and Keystone Legend (3k io)

They have given a mount for KSM since BFA Season 4, and KSL since TWW S2

So theres 14 total mounts from keystones you can go back and buy

[fringe mural]

are there cool mounts among them?

like cool to the majority of people not niche stuff

[harsh trellis]

Kicks of the group are bad the adepts are free casting

[undone beacon]

BFA S4 was an old god snake, SL had the deathwalker elementals, DF had armoredons, TWW had the mechsuit/goblin tank/void bug

[fringe mural]

Okay ugh

[ivory tusk]

yup

[fringe mural]

Apparently blizzard assumes every key pusher is a tasteless goth

idk man

No cool high fantasy mounts to be found

[glass fox]

A few times I used AoE taunt to get aggro on gather and I definitely felt like I needed it for interrupts. Do you have any tips on how to improve my gather?

[plush tendon]

just waiting for a expansion with a lot of bear mounts

or cool horses

[harsh trellis]

Charge and thunderclap and dont give them your back. Also that far left Caster in the first pack... I'll ignore it and ping till one of the other dps range kick it

[ivory tusk]

more revenge..ravager every pull if you can...more TC...WT to gather casters..during casting

[harsh trellis]

There's that one caster that doesn't move

[glass fox]

Forgive me, what does WT stand for?

[ivory tusk]

wrecking throw...its underrated

[glass fox]

Aaahh ok

[harsh trellis]

I would honestly not overthink this. You ran a 14 perfectly

[glass fox]

Good call

[harsh trellis]

Do that again

[molten epoch]

I see you only took 1 point in apex @glass fox just kinda curious for my own awareness as well is that a meta build right now?

[glass fox]

I have no idea lol. I looked at logs of better prot warriors and tried a few builds

[ivory tusk]

looking at the charts for prot warr there are quite a few 3400io prot warriors going 1/4 apex

[harsh trellis]

In the 15 he's got the 4/4

[toxic gyro]

Yes it’s meta if you want to take more dmg and do less dmg

[ivory tusk]

2/4 ok sure but 1/4?

huge dps loss

[fringe mural]

Not sure if trolling

2/4 lol

[patent osprey]

I used to be a 1/4er until skyhold yelled at me 🙁

Now only 4/4er

[toxic gyro]

You can just wrecking throw silence range casters if they’re not elites.

[naive ravine]

Holy moly the real one

[trail dome]

please stream more plka <3

[patent osprey]

Having fps issues recently with obs and the game :/ Trust I want to 🙂

[toxic gyro]

Teach me how to live 5 battleaxes pull in aa

[trail dome]

Hope that it works itself out! I need someone to copy.

[harsh trellis]

What size is the canvas in obs?

[naive ravine]

Quick question if u dont mind me asking, whats the thoight behind running ITF without the 1188 haste to reach a certain amout of SB uptime?

[trail dome]

esc > log out > click on Bandibrew > log in

[naive ravine]

Is it cuz of pure dps reasons?

[toxic gyro]

Lol. I already race changed from NE to Midgetbandi.

[trail dome]

To actually be helpful I kind of rotate between SW, Demo & SR, SW, Piercing Howl, externals.

Similar in left side nexus point you kind of just get rammed

[ivory tusk]

you want 30% haste to get close to 100% uptime on SB

[toxic gyro]

Not having lust for that pull is rough. Maybe just tell my group to focus my manafiend so I don’t have to go in for kick when I run out of cds.

[naive ravine]

You want 1188 haste and no you dont get 100% uptime with that

[glass fox]

Does anyone know if SR dr works on the haste pylon in Nexus Point? Like could I hypothetically increase survivability by squatting on it for 3s, SR, and then get off once SR ends?

[trail dome]

I unironically put skull markers on adepts of the dawn so sure, send it imo.

[harsh trellis]

I miss the auto markers

[undone beacon]

We spread joy here plka you know that

[shrewd moss]

goddamnit it's the first day of my work vacation that I can play the game and it's an all-day update. wah.

[toxic gyro]

Seer>arcanists> others, kill order. You can solo adepts for like 30sec by yourself.

[undone beacon]

That is... not true

[patent osprey]

ITF in general = more dam + more IP to mitigate the damage of the scariest things for us rn being bleed/magic/heal absorbs. Last I checked in my logs, ITF with my current gear sets put me at 80% sb uptime overall but close to 93% effective uptime which is enough as long as I play around it through a SW or microkiting.

[trail dome]

nah the adepts in skyreach

[patent osprey]

I was bullied 😛

[undone beacon]

You enjoyed it though dont lie

[toxic gyro]

Ahh. They’re still lowest prio. Theres always contructs or elementals or other big mobs that are prio kill targets.

[trail dome]

idk i hate those mobs with a fiery passion

i play 4? 5? in the entire key, it's insane how much damage their dot does. Especially in pugs where people yolo stun all the time and DR them up for you. :)

[toxic gyro]

Piercing howl is quite nice there bc it lets you kite them and you can still hit big mobs bc they don’t get slowed.

[tardy prawn]

had same issue

now I returned to my resto shaman

[toxic gyro]

Wish it wasn’t 1.5min cd these days but still nice.

[tardy prawn]

because of that nasty debuff

[glass fox]

Is heroic leap like VDH jump? Can I get hit in the back while using it?

[undone beacon]

You can. Dont leap into the middle of packs

You will get got

[naive ravine]

Perfect, thanks for the explanation

[toxic pewter]

osnap i forgot about the void themed tier 2 set transmogs

that badass

[hazy crest]

On heroic Valleria, does the simulacrum just hit hard? Felt squishy for the first time this tier tanking that thing last night

[toxic pewter]

well it specifically does the most damage in that phase because it puts a debuff on you that lowers all of your stats by 10%, stacking. so if you tank it for too long and do not swap correctly it's melees will just own you hard

[patent osprey]

Yes

[naive ravine]

What is the reason for your current fps problems? I just ordered bigger ram cuz my game tends to lag from time to time

And thats an absolute no go as tank

[lament zealot]

WoW is poorly optimized

[hazy crest]

I guess it could be the debuff, but even at 1 stack I feel the thing hits hard. Though to be honest some of our healers are saying they were having range issues so it could partially be that

[patent osprey]

Wish i knew 🙁

[naive ravine]

💯

[undone beacon]

I blame WAs

oh wait

[glass fox]

Yes it is like VDH (and I can’t get hit in the back) or Yes I can get hit in the back?

I phrased my question poorly

[toxic pewter]

yeah, i feel like the clone just hits harder than alleria herself, but I am not 100% sure on this would have to check logs which I have not done.. anyone can correct me if I am wrong.

[undone beacon]

Yes you can get hit in the back. I answered you already :P

[glass fox]

Oh thank you Pash, sorry didn’t see it

[harsh trellis]

How are you and your offtank swapping?

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1475931202505674903/gifntext-gif.gif

[glass fox]

I will get got

[undone beacon]

Get got you shall

Anytime a mob is not within 180 degrees in front of your character as a prot warr, you're getting got

Prot is exceptionally strong against melees/phys ranged because shield block ensures you'll block every hit, but if you let SB fall off or mobs get behind you, you're taking unmitigated damage

And will simply die

[outer willow]

Well, the lab is leaking. I get to go home early

Happy vault day

[naive ravine]

Make shield indestructible

[molten epoch]

W take

[undone beacon]

Too bad 8 hour maintenance

[naive ravine]

I dont want to pay 500 gold every second run

[outer willow]

Is this a joke

[undone beacon]

oh its like water leaking

[undone beacon]

i wish

[severe star]

nope

[outer willow]

Wow hahahah fuck

[harsh trellis]

Air conditioner or toilet?

[undone beacon]

'tis a patch day

[outer willow]

Rain if you could believe it.

[glass fox]

Ive tanked relatively high on guardian and VDH, but prot survivability is so different. Not having self healing is foreign to me. I feel like i am clinging to my healers leg begging for them to love me

[harsh trellis]

I do believe it

[naive ravine]

If I paid 500 gold every 2 runs to repair then I have already spend nearly 30k on repairs this season

[outer willow]

Huge storm. Old building.

[toxic pewter]

prot warr is s tier for repair costs maximization

[harsh trellis]

That's shitty tar patching on an aluminum roof

And im going to bet your building has a flat roof

[molten epoch]

Does paladin have the same issue with their shield repairs?

[outer willow]

You sir are correct

[ivory barn]

We a Colossus raid gang now? Trying to decide what to play tonight for raid, got tank promoted tonight lol

[toxic pewter]

nah, we block way more than prot pala

[glass fox]

What if instead of buffing shield durability, we made SOTR cost durability for Prot Pals.

[toxic pewter]

eveyrtime we block it prob costs us like a couple silver or some shit lmao

omg thats a great addon idea

[molten epoch]

Thats a good idea because they'd freak out and get it bug fixed

[toxic pewter]

block repair cost counter

someone make that

[harsh trellis]

Its like sonic with his gold rings...

We get hit and change comes out

[toxic pewter]

read pins

[undone beacon]

I mean, thats part of the niche yeah. When played well pwarr feels unmovable in most situations. Your trade off is you dont have as much self-sustain. In a pinch you can throw healing pots and Impending Victory though

[ivory barn]

[fringe mural]

unlessss

you get an indestructible shield in the vault

dance

[harsh trellis]

What's the chance that the servers come up before 6

[ivory barn]

On a patch day? Prolly not

[undone beacon]

Decent, but i wouldnt bank on it

[ivory tusk]

A hour early maybe

[undone beacon]

Its a gamble whether they've fucked something up and have to extend, or everything works smoothly and they get it out an hour early at best

[toxic pewter]

I am changing from my usual negative bias mindset and predict the servers will be up at the appropriate time

[naive ravine]

Yep

[hazy crest]

at 3 stacks

of the stat debuff

[harsh trellis]

Noooooo

Lol let me make this so much easier for you

[severe star]

My group swaps on arrows and after the shield breaks which is usually 2 stacks maybe 3 but rarely

after arrows go out sorry

[harsh trellis]

2 stacks max but even better... taunt swap on the sim shield. Sim gets a shield you swap so the dps can blast it.

Once the shield goes down taunt back. If you're using dbm you'll hear an audible Inc adds

[hazy crest]

That's enough time for the stacks to fall off?

[harsh trellis]

Yeah

[hazy crest]

hmm, nice we'll have to give that a go

[harsh trellis]

Arrows are the main mechanic of that entire fight

Dps has to be able to make lines lol

[toxic pewter]

best to just swap when barrier comes up and barrier goes down

[hazy crest]

lol

[toxic pewter]

barrier comes up right as arrows go out

[harsh trellis]

That's what I said

Lol

[hazy crest]

Kind of odd that Tanks get an arrow in phase 2 isn't it?

[toxic pewter]

yep i am agreeing with u

[harsh trellis]

Nope its good

Because you can also aim

Also heroic leap to the next platform

Just do it cause its cool

[hazy crest]

I must misunderstand how they work then, I thought the add had to be between you and the simul

[harsh trellis]

Make sure your mog looks good also

That helps

[toxic pewter]

best way to do it is for the arrow people to just stand on/stand under the mob

[hazy crest]

lol aura farming is like 80% of tanking right

[severe star]

alright just because im stupid I just realized the arrows go out as soon as the sim gets a shield

[harsh trellis]

The arrows flow through alleria

You'll see the white

Similar to p1

[toxic pewter]

honestly if tank gets arrow dont really need to worry about it not worth perhaps repositioning alleria or the clone poorly

[hazy crest]

Right, and I have the simulacrum near the middle of the platform, the adds are not near me. Am I dragging the Simulacrum around to find an add?

Seems sketch

[loud rune]

voidspire hc, crown boss, how do you guys swap it and is there a prefered swap style and position for prot? someone kept yapping about cosmic barrier cast, do you want the cosmic barrier outside when its casted or inside

[harsh trellis]

No

You dont move

[severe star]

no arrows come from alleria

dont move with the sim

[toxic pewter]

just let the raid deal with arrows

[hazy crest]

ok, at least I have that part right

[harsh trellis]

You and your off tank are well within range you just taunt

[opal ledge]

i'm really curious to see if crafted shield will go up to 298

[toxic pewter]

didnt it say weapons

[opal ledge]

shield will count as off hand probably

[toxic pewter]

hmm

[harsh trellis]

Is 298 the max ilvl then?

[opal ledge]

but i'm curious on that too..

[vital stirrup]

the upgrade is only for weapon and trrinkets

[vast epoch]

Crest cap getting removed with 0.5 yet? Don't see any info

[vital stirrup]

but 298 should be the max for those slots

[opal ledge]

max ilvl for prot warrior will be 291.25

[severe star]

its says fully upgraded hero, mythic and max crafted items

[drowsy comet]

ye

[severe star]

not sure still if that includes shields

but if it does then yes

[drowsy comet]

should be since its an offhand and part of a weapon technically

[opal ledge]

the question is if all of those will get to 298, or hero will be like 289?

[undone beacon]

No

[undone beacon]

Hero will still be below myth

[drowsy comet]

this is not turbo event, its just a "light" version tho

[vast epoch]

, cheers pash

[severe star]

oh good point so a crafted might be like 295

[toxic pewter]

wont max crafted item be like 295 ilvl or not working like that

[undone beacon]

Max crafted should be 295, yes

[toxic pewter]

still solid upgrade

[hazy crest]

@harsh trellis @severe star Thanks for the tips on that fight

[drowsy comet]

how tf do people do this lmao

[toxic pewter]

what am i looking at

[harsh trellis]

Yeah dude once it makes sense you'll be chillin

[vital stirrup]

by having a +12 pos?

[harsh trellis]

All tanks

Ok

[severe star]

they can pull an extreme amount of trash probably

[toxic pewter]

oh lol

[opal ledge]

that's the thing, its probably 295, but we have no confirmation.
the wording on blizzard suggests everything goes to 298.

maybe it's way they did so we can get max ilvl raid trinkets without myth raiding idk

[drowsy comet]

i see

[severe star]

I doubt a max hero piece would go to the same ilvl as a max myth piece

[toxic pewter]

if they did that they would be infringing on myth track gear pretty hard

[drowsy comet]

BFA tank meta im reading often...

[severe star]

honestly 5 tanking sounds like a good amount of fun

[drowsy comet]

true

[undone beacon]

tanks with high self sustain and good damage, plus off healing from the ppal

I ran all tank keys in TWW, was a ton of fun

[drowsy comet]

i want to see 5 tanks in a +20 then Im suprised

[undone beacon]

13 priory all tanks

[undone beacon]

Wouldnt have nearly enough damage to time it

[drowsy comet]

yea

the guy said that they nearly 2 chested it lmao

[severe star]

who was the guy who did a +15 in bfa as a solo tank over time obviously

[drowsy comet]

dafuq?

solo?

has to be a blood dk

[ivory barn]

Pull it ALL into a boss

[opal ledge]

im bfa prot paladin could survive better than blood

rextroy soloed a bunch of stuff

[harsh trellis]

I did see some pull it into the boss route things im gonna try in aa. And Mc.

That skyreach warlock gate at the start is also pretty cool

[undone beacon]

There was a VDH in legion that solo'd like a +22 Vault of the Wardens or smthn

That was neat

[opal ledge]

hey on seat 3rd boss should we ask for no interrupts? so we can reflect? i think we can tank the blasts pretty easy

coordinating reflects with pugs is hell

[wind karma]

depending on the class, some get pretty meaningful damage from kicking. if you really care, just try reflecting after you know 2 kicks are already out from party.

[loud rune]

dont we get also increased shield slam damage for kicking

iirc

[wind karma]

it's just generic 5% damage for 10sec to target, not shield slam

[undone beacon]

Spell reflect value on 3rd boss of seat is very high, but its unlikely you can convince pugs to stop kicking

in a coordinated group i ask to hold kicks but otherwise i just send SR if it looks like its gonna go off anyways

[toxic pewter]

i think ive only gotten like 2 reflects on that boss pugging this season so far lmao

[undone beacon]

That boss and last in skreach have big SR value but people dont respect that smh

[toxic pewter]

yep

[winged zenith]

Seat is warrior dungeon

Every reflect is so valuable

Especially shield slam reflect

[toxic pewter]

wat u mean shield slam reflect

[undone beacon]

Theres a mob that does a shield slam

you can reflect it

[toxic pewter]

huh interesting

[winged zenith]

Mob that knockbacks you

[toxic pewter]

oh right i know that guy

near 2nd boss right

kinda

[winged zenith]

There is 4 of them

I include them in all my pull

[toxic pewter]

prob this guy right

[winged zenith]

Yes

[toxic pewter]

void bash

[undone beacon]

yeah

[toxic pewter]

nice

[winged zenith]

No more dying from random charges after knockbacked plus 2-3 reflect 15-20% hp of mob

[toxic pewter]

it also reflects the knockback

right

[winged zenith]

Yes

[toxic pewter]

yeah damn i gotta be sure to do that

[winged zenith]

Even first boss 3 stage attack can be reflected

Last one

[toxic pewter]

yah the void slash

[mild river]

How long till servers come up? I'm in Spain so I don't know how to math lol

[toxic pewter]

5 hours 50 min

[mild river]

Damn

[stiff inlet]

I was looking at my 15 parses vs another warrior and he did 7m in reflect to my 750k crazy how much I left on the table lol

[upper imp]

With the changes to colossus going live today do yall think we will be swapping off of thane for keys?

[toxic pewter]

[tribal wharf]

i very much doubt i will change to col

for more than a key or 2, unless its really good

[upper imp]

is the damage about the same in M+ between the two? or is thane doing more damage? i feel like defensively prot is just bullet proof and i just wanna do more damage haha

[tribal wharf]

thunder blast just better for keys

so thats my reasoning

[severe star]

check the pins

[sweet pasture]

not to mention you can instantly break chains on warriors with shout

[royal marten]

Just say no to mechanics. They legally cannot affect you then

[tribal wharf]

reflect is great ya

just , i cant rely on anybody to let me do it / help me with proper interupt and kicks rotation

kicks sure sort of, everyone slam kick at the guy doing frost bolt, yes all 5 of us

but like, +20 WCM witches

taught it is impossible, for pugs to do kick and or reflect rotation

ONE HUNDRED % FOR BOTH AT THE SAME TIME

a billion % never happen in a pug ever

realistically, it should be i reflect active witches bolt, > someone kicks next/me, >reflect, repeat

all while nobody kicks my reflect botl AND there is 2 kicks going on side lesser bolts

never once happened perfectly

[drowsy comet]

think imma try out my shaman again, much more chill to heal there than on rdruid, and not that complex lol

[tribal wharf]

shamans is stronk

we took 259 to 10 pit and we timed it, i think +2

[drowsy comet]

mine is just 70, tomorrow i will level him to 90 and get this boy up

another week of TW dungeons

[tribal wharf]

good TBH, i have 1600 of those atm, i can use more

i need 5000 total

[drowsy comet]

mists of pandaria, very excited as i never played anything there

[drowsy comet]

true

[tribal wharf]

all panda dungeons are good dungeon but i quit in panda .1 or .2

[drowsy comet]

also the thing with shaman is their bloodlust, and their healing is pretty good too, with druid I was really struggling sometimes spefically in raid...

ay pash

[undone beacon]

Yogi are you gonna play MOUSE: PI for Hire?

[undone beacon]

[tribal wharf]

nahh

if i get it for free?

yes

[undone beacon]

Seems gameplay wise right up your alley haha

[tribal wharf]

i fucking love cops games as you all well know

max payne,

la noire

[drowsy comet]

absolute giga chad

[undone beacon]

Gamer

[drowsy comet]

innitially i wanted to name him lustmaxxer, but that sounded weird lmao

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12E2vpHUlxc

[undone beacon]

My shaman is Pashawatt

[tribal wharf]

the aura for this game series

[undone beacon]

Cuz lightning

[tribal wharf]

is off the fucking charts

past the moon into the god damn another fucking planet system

[drowsy comet]

Restoration
All healing done increased by 8%. This does not apply to PvP combat.
All damage dealt increased by 30%.
holy damage

[tribal wharf]

its like teh most perfect and bad ass game of all time

[drowsy comet]

max payne is cool ye

[tribal wharf]

your a pissed off cop done wrong and your go around blowing people away with pistols and shot guns in attempt for revenge

its like, holy hell, can you make a better game?

[undone beacon]

World of Warcraft

[solid sun]

I love wow

Let’s all log in rn and play wow together

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqoNeIkuCdo

i iwant everyone to know

this is every male fantasy

every single man on the planet wants to do something like this

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/world-of-warcraft-work-gaming-OzUCnzwGrbG4PmMUUr

[tribal wharf]

cant log in yet, dw ive tried twice so far

[outer willow]

Is it good? It gives me Bioshock vibes

[tribal wharf]

as i said i dont really care for it that much

[outer willow]

Did you like Bioshock?

[tribal wharf]

but if i got it for free, of course i would play it

[outer willow]

Sending to your steam rn

[tribal wharf]

never really tried bioshock

the action rpg adventure thing i played was, 4 horse men game, illidan voice actor

cant think of name

darksider apparently

[toxic pewter]

lol wtf apparently brew getting buffed today st/mt

thats wild

[outer willow]

They need it

/s

[harsh trellis]

They love their brew

[tribal wharf]

imma try this lucky vault thing

[toxic pewter]

also resto druid getting 8% healing buff lol wat in the world

[tribal wharf]

oh, it hides them wtf lol

[outer willow]

Did you do the fucking questline

I didn’t know that we needed to have that shit done before today

You don’t NEED to but it helps.

[tribal wharf]

no

[outer willow]

It’s like a total of 12 mythics?

[tribal wharf]

i dont do quests that much really lol

[outer willow]

Or raid bosses or delves

[tribal wharf]

i could

[harsh trellis]

Gotta do prey also

[tribal wharf]

i mean, im getting 3 myth slots today regardless

and i have that in head, shoulder and cloak

and thats it

[toxic pewter]

where da fuk our dps buff

[tribal wharf]

so there is strong chance i will get a thing i need anyway

[frosty mango]

Dw they nerfing monks

[toxic pewter]

wowhead said they literrally got a 3% buff

[frosty mango]

Blizz is obviously balancing on 04/20

[toxic pewter]

unless u being sarcastic lol

[jagged pier]

Dont forget most of warriors are dropping massive amount of damage

[frosty mango]

Mistweaver

[toxic pewter]

yeah damn didnt think about that thats good point actually

we prob fine actually

[jagged pier]

We might have gotten nerfed otherwise

[frosty mango]

This is kinda misleading

[toxic pewter]

fair enough

lol

[frosty mango]

They should change guardian Druid to “squishvegan” bc im pretty sure its only him

One dude carrying the entire spec lol

[toxic pewter]

apparently brews are getting buffed today though

[harsh trellis]

Where is this info?

[toxic pewter]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/estimated-class-tuning-for-patch-12-0-5-devourer-dh-buffed-again-marks-aoe-381295

[tribal wharf]

nothing ever changes

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[harsh trellis]

Lol dev dh got buffed

[toxic pewter]

wtf devourer getting buffs lol

ya

just saw that too

[harsh trellis]

Rofl

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[sacred quartz]

I'm fine with that, seeing what they were going to do to prot war today

[toxic pewter]

also unholy dk

wat in the world

[harsh trellis]

Let's ducking go

[toxic pewter]

got specs drowning and they buffing meta specs

wat goin on here

[harsh trellis]

Grab them all and do big pulls

[toxic pewter]

bdk 6% aoe nerf

interesting

[harsh trellis]

What do the Aug numbers represent

[tribal wharf]

so im watching some jet lie movie shit

[sacred quartz]

I'm only 15 resil working on 16 which isn't anything fancy, but prot war feels fine so far. Maybe a wall inc. soon

[tribal wharf]

and hes doing an action scene fight out with cops

and i cant decide if its dog shit or amazing

[harsh trellis]

Its both

Its a martial arts film so its always both

[tribal wharf]

called "the one" from 2001

[harsh trellis]

Yeah he fights himself right?

[toxic pewter]

to be fair the brew buffs are for master of harmony i think most still play shado pan as far as I know

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slqIzuiqPwk brew monk fantasy?

[sacred quartz]

They all play shadopan

Like 99%

[toxic pewter]

yeah so i was freaking out over brew buffs that dont even matter

thats good

[sacred quartz]

And the uh dk buff i think is more complicated than just a buff since its a slight rework

[toxic pewter]

kinda annoying wowhead didnt include prot warr hero talent buff situation though

like the monk guy included master of harmony buffs in this article

meanwhile our colossus buffs nowhere to be seen or heard of

[sacred quartz]

They reverted the prot nerf

[toxic pewter]

meant to say buff

colossus buffs

[tribal wharf]

yes, and nobody really plays col

so nothing changed effectively

[toxic pewter]

yeah but this article makes it sound like nothing has changed for prot warr

and people that may enjoy colossus wont know its much more competitive now

[sacred quartz]

Is it though, in reality

[chilly brook]

idk I play colo depending on key

[chilly brook]

it already was competitive

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lusty grotto]

apb why do you always freak out on tuesdays?

[toxic pewter]

lol

I am just reacting to the news of the day

[chilly brook]

I'm leveling a second warrior

[toxic pewter]

like when I see this- it is a lie and I have to comment on it

[chilly brook]

female dorf

because if I'm going to have to look at this abysmal race the whole time I might as well make everyone else be in pain too

[lusty grotto]

not surprising considering we dont have a wowhead writer

[toxic pewter]

I mean yeah it is not surprising but I still gotta tell it like it is

[lusty grotto]

is it?

[toxic pewter]

is wat

[lusty grotto]

perception isnt reality

[toxic pewter]

I don't follow

[undone beacon]

I mean overall Pwarr wasn’t really buffed compared to what it was before, it’s just that colossus specifically is now viable too

[toxic pewter]

Right and I understand that, my point is the brewmaster situation is similar where they commented on buffs to master of harmony.. I was saying that I would of liked to see a similar buff mention regarding colossus

[undone beacon]

Too bad we don’t have a Nome on duty

apb when are you gonna take up the wowhead guide

[toxic pewter]

because as it stands there could be people that enjoy colossus gameplay but based on this article have no clue it is in a much better place

[lusty grotto]

im doing the work trust

[toxic pewter]

Nim really should be it

I know you work and stuff

but come on u can make the time

[lusty grotto]

i cant commit to it, i would if i could

[solid sun]

I am committed

I am also bad

[toxic pewter]

Rhino for wowhead prot warr president

[solid sun]

@undone beacon I need word help

[toxic pewter]

or even Pash do it

[undone beacon]

What’s up

[solid sun]

I’m looking for a word to describe maneuvering ships in battle

Like if navigation is long term sea travel trajectories etc

What’s the word for being sick with it at evasive maneuvers and lining up cannon shots

[severe star]

shark fighting like dog fighting but for ships

[undone beacon]

Oceanic lexicons are not my forte but uhhh

Naval tactics? Expert Helmsmanship?

[solid sun]

Oceanic Lexicon is the name of my sea shanty band

[toxic pewter]

"Take Evasive maneuvers and line up cannon shots"

that is what I would say

LOL

[solid sun]

lol

[undone beacon]

Drivin da boat

[solid sun]

Ez

[undone beacon]

Helmsmanship is a good one but maybe not what you’re looking for

[solid sun]

Also I love this because air battles are dog fights and dogs aren’t in the sky but sea battles are not dog fights because dogs aren’t in the water

[lusty grotto]

good point

[solid sun]

Anyways thanks for trying

In news relevant to the channel my warrior is going back to tanking

[toxic pewter]

hell yeah

[solid sun]

You need a dps alt now apb for when you don’t wanna tank

[toxic pewter]

i got resilient keys 17

[solid sun]

I’ll drive the boat for you

[toxic pewter]

we can start doing them

[toxic pewter]

yah i need dps u r right

[solid sun]

Woah pash did you see this

Our homie already has resi 17s

We don’t need resi 16s anymore

[toxic pewter]

dude after today

i am sure everyone gonna be doing 20s and stuff

power levels sky rocketing today

[solid sun]

Not me I’m baby

You gotta protect me

Swaddle me up

[toxic pewter]

we will crush all in our path

[solid sun]

Which dungeon is your hardest now

[toxic pewter]

ngl

something about mairsara caverns i just really dont enjoy something always goes wrong in there for me

but algethar also kinda annoying

[tribal wharf]

https://youtu.be/lS49neqWdRg?si=kScFXSCEqMhUe-XL speaking about caverns, i ran +10 last night

[fringe mural]

like are you uploading everything you do?

[toxic pewter]

how do u record ur gameplay yogi u use archon app

[tribal wharf]

i have also for uhhh, spires, and something else

[toxic pewter]

or is that obs

[tribal wharf]

no, the goal and intent mission is as follows

when i run a key on +10, fail or not

[toxic pewter]

dang yogi u r +2ing these 10 keys

that is badass

[tribal wharf]

i record all of it anyways, but when i do that content

and it is a dungeon i have not yet timed on +10

until i complete it on +10 on time

i'll run it

so, the goal is to do all 8 keys

and then see about what we can do with some kind of proper coaching on it

[toxic pewter]

once u do all 10s u can do 12's cuz u +2 many of the 10s as it is

so that basically like doin a 12 on time sorta

i think 3,000 raider IO score is like mostly 12s and a couple 13 if i am not mistaken.. i cant remember actually

[tribal wharf]

ya, and the thing is, to do 15s

i will have to master 12s

[toxic pewter]

yes that is true

[tribal wharf]

which means being even more careful about not killing the team in some way

[severe star]

I believe it is 3 13s and rest 12s

[tribal wharf]

if i had balls of steel i'd go for 3400 + tbh

[toxic pewter]

yah that is def achievable getting to 3000

I am watching your video and ur fundamentals seem solid

[severe star]

Personally I dont like MC but I like going right at the start for the vilebranch stew

[tribal wharf]

after what i experienced attempting to go right never ever again

[toxic pewter]

XD

what happened

[tribal wharf]

this is, what the hell was that place

in df or soemthing

that i quit the game over

first pull i died

same gut reaction for go right in MC

[toxic pewter]

maybe uhh brackenhide hollow?

[tribal wharf]

never ever again for a million billion years i will no

i do not like it

the dwarf place

[toxic pewter]

ahh uldaman

those basilisks hurt bad

[tribal wharf]

i 100% do not like that dungeon

[toxic pewter]

those bleeds were no joke

[tribal wharf]

total dislike

[drowsy comet]

maisara sucks too

[frigid valley]

is there some bug rn? my shield breaks like once per dungeon atm

[lusty grotto]

no

despite reddit saying so

[undone beacon]

Gonna play it after work today, will report back

[lusty grotto]

thats just how prot warrior works

[drowsy comet]

breaking? maybe bring a repair bot or something

[undone beacon]

Prot is the rich man’s tank

[severe star]

boes have blessed me this season so at least I can afford being prot

[toxic pewter]

how many boe u get..

[chilly brook]

I still think that brew is not nearly as good as everyone tries to make it out to be

[frigid valley]

didnt even know others felt same way, and yeah i know it breaks down quicker but feels hella fast rn

[severe star]

4

[toxic pewter]

dont say more than 3 i will lose it

WTFF

[lusty grotto]

its not any different than previous seasons, people just have recency bias

[toxic pewter]

grats

[severe star]

2 normals for 100k total and 2 heroic for 250k total

[toxic pewter]

hell yeah

[severe star]

then my raid lead got 2 mythic in one day and got 13mil

[toxic pewter]

wow

[tribal wharf]

normal-ish but i wish blizzard would change that for sepcs that have alot of interation with weapon repetedly colliding

aka , rogue with slice and dice

ummm no other HUGE examples coming to mind but pwar and roguu for sure

[severe star]

now my raid lead provides caldrons feasts runes pots and so on every raiding day

[chilly brook]

just repair 4head

[opal ledge]

i think being a blacksmith is really good for prot right now... infinite free repair for your shield

i repaired my shield mid combat so maany times

[tribal wharf]

and ye, all we can do is bitch and moan and repair and possibly take up msithing for shield spec repair for free

[fringe mural]

you're so educated

[toxic pewter]

hmm i havent really found the need to repair mid combat personally

[fringe mural]

too much int for a warrior

[severe star]

my shield only drops about 33% on a dungeon

[chilly brook]

ain't no way you're so down bad for gold that you need free repairs

[severe star]

if that

[opal ledge]

i just wish they could make the master hammer repair all gear with a sinlge use

[fringe mural]

You tank with your belly?

[tribal wharf]

no, im not that down bad but if you run tons of keys it adds up

over time

and i've been doing it since DF

[severe star]

drops to like 80/85 durability after a key

[tribal wharf]

free greater than not free

[chilly brook]

yea but if you run a ton of keys you can just boost and make stupid amounts of gold anyways

[opal ledge]

well, the lower the shield block uptime, less with repair you will spend

[tribal wharf]

by the end of season 1

i will be able to repair all prot gear slots armor

all it will cost me is clicking a macro like a dozen times

[opal ledge]

is the repair from TWW still working? my dk had the tree almost full

[tribal wharf]

and like 30 seconds

[opal ledge]

right now i'm using a macro that alternates master hammer and for the pieces i dont have unlocked, it uses a refulgent hammer. it's cheaper than repair.

[tribal wharf]

im pretty sure they nerfed it around time the keys went live, no real idea

i have the new hammer anyway

[opal ledge]

right now i can repair swords, shield, and bracers (thats like 80 points)

the blacksmith tree requires too many points, and farmign the points is kinda expensive

[tribal wharf]

max out my chest piece knowledge for free repair

[lusty grotto]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/tmh

[tribal wharf]

indestructible hero that i catalize drops

[lusty grotto]

that addon has worked since TWW

[tribal wharf]

THX BLIZZ

[lusty grotto]

no need for macros

[opal ledge]

oh that's nice, i made my own macro, could saved some time

[tribal wharf]

i think the old one i have for df/tww will stil work

i just need change the actual master repair hammer ID

and it doesnt seem to entirely work if i dont have all the knowledge so i dont put it on bars till then

[toxic pewter]

i wonder how much indestructable shield would save throughout a season

[mental scarab]

Crucible of Erratic Energies is that trinket good?

[toxic pewter]

prob tens of thousands

[slim pivot]

One of our tanks put his sim in our wowutils. Wtf is going on here? Is dreadscale supposed to be 20% haha
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aNdHBG1eayLN7821vuXiKA

[raw whale]

I heard indestructible just spread the durability loss over all the rest of your gear

[toxic pewter]

huh is that right

[raw whale]

but don't quote me on that

[severe star]

I mean yeah but I dont have that issue

[toxic pewter]

according to google gemini that is a myth

[raw whale]

i would trust more Gemini than myself

[opal ledge]

he used a custom apl i think

[outer willow]

Will buy if the report is good. The art style is very alluring.

[opal ledge]

he basically just auto attacks?

[slim pivot]

Sounds about right 🤣

[toxic pewter]

something went very wrong with that sim

[opal ledge]

why blizzard don't make cool stuff... i wanna vrykul as a playable race

[raw whale]

Talking about guildmate, any advice on making my guild officier believe Colossus is fine ?

[jagged pier]

Tuskarr or nothing

[raw whale]

I'm stuck playing Thane because everyone else does it except for me in the world

[jagged pier]

Point them to the pin in here

[frosty mango]

Why do they care

[raw whale]

Yeah they are the kind of guys where whatever they say is right but unless you corner them with a mass amount of argument, you can't win

[opal ledge]

imagine they post:
"we are getting shaman tank, gladiator warrior, vrykul, tuskarr next path"
"we are making shield transmog bigger"
"warriors (and maybe other tank without bres) will have BL in form of a shout"

tank shortage solved

[frosty mango]

Are you doing CE level raiding?

[raw whale]

Because we're progging

[lusty grotto]

i mean its around the same

[raw whale]

Yes this is a HoF guild

[toxic pewter]

in single target colossus about to do slightly more dam

[lusty grotto]

colossus is only ahead by a measly 1.2%

in ST

pure ST

which none of the fights are

so it really does not matter what he plays

[opal ledge]

is there any cool trick with colossus? like avoiding a knockback idk

[lusty grotto]

for prog, as part of guild leadership, if its within those margins, you'd want him to play whatever hes most comfortable with

[raw whale]

Well the main argument before 12.0.5 (because i really enjoy playing col) was that for 60 pwar i was the only one playing col and it wouldn't make sense that no one else would play col

[frosty mango]

So I have a similar experience and my approach is generally to ask for specifics. Tell me why it’s better. “Everyone else is playing thane” isn’t an answer. Especially when the class discord is explicitly saying both are fine

[toxic pewter]

yah ton of knockbacks in the various content

not sure anyone is even saying colossus is better

[raw whale]

If you want an insight on how logic works it's "Everyone else is playing Thane", but when i say "Everyone has 2 tanks on the same soak on Paladins" they say "meh we can't do that, go on your own with the rest of the ranged"

[opal ledge]

i don't think there is a different...
thane is just easier gameplay

[undone beacon]

Pins

[toxic pewter]

yeah in st colossus slightly better that is true

[lusty grotto]

by basically nothing

[raw whale]

Basically, since everyone is saying "thane is easier" the logic is "you can do around the same by doing less efforts" but i strongly believe in my skills in playing col

[lusty grotto]

col, thane, it doesnt matter in ST

[frosty mango]

I’m not sure you’re going to overcome their stance but I would say you should really seek to understand if the position is due to an issue with your performance or are they truly just picking

[undone beacon]

Hit em with the Colossus on farm/reclear and show them that, and then wham bam thank you maam

[frosty mango]

But usually if they are looking at your logs, your spec wasnt the driver

Something else is driving them to look

[lusty grotto]

is it you that wants to play colossus?

SpanRa?

[raw whale]

I strongly believe they see me as an idiot and a poor tank tbh

[raw whale]

Yes !

[lusty grotto]

if its you

then link them this

#protection message

you're welcome

[raw whale]

Thanks !!

[opal ledge]

also colossus is getting a buff

[lusty grotto]

however if youre making someone else play colossus due to 1.2% increase, i would recommend you didn't and let them play whichever they are most comfortable with

[lusty grotto]

uhh yes, that's basically what i posted

[frosty mango]

Ask for specific examples of what they want to see improved

Because which spec you play doesn’t really change your performance.

If they don’t have specific feedback point them to the pin Nim linked and tell them to pound sand

[severe star]

grats on your mythic alleria kill spanra

[frosty mango]

Alternatively link your logs and we can give you some improvement actions

[raw whale]

It's funny because i did. And they couldn't answer. I asked them what was the metric for them to state that i'm doing poorly or not, since parse isn't a factor. They couldn't tell except "just play what the pros play"

[severe star]

he has a 93 average mythic parce

[frosty mango]

Yeah I’ve been here and honestly you’re never going to overcome this

[raw whale]

Thanks

[undone beacon]

I mean yeah, if they wont give constructive feedback you just have to press on or find a new home, though doing that at the HoF level may be hard

If what you're doing works, just keep at it. Obviously you're not a poor tank nor an idiot if you're successful HoF

[lusty grotto]

thats just an insane amount of micromanaging

[frosty mango]

They are going to try to find something and in the absence of valid criticisms they will pick something invalid, this probably isn’t a you problem. If you’re getting CE hof and pushing 90+ then you are the pros

The pro is you

You are playing what the pro is playing

[undone beacon]

^

[opal ledge]

what HoF means?

[frosty mango]

Hall of fame

[lusty grotto]

hall of fame

[severe star]

hall of fame

[undone beacon]

There are ~400 tanks in the world who get to be HoF, you are one of them. You da pro

[raw whale]

Yeah i don't feel like the need of finding somewhere else because i'm told to play Thane over Colossus, i'm an otp Pwar so honestly that's better than nothing. What makes me upset is that i'm being told of doing what i want because i'm not doing what the mass does. Even though i'm doing fine and the slowness in prog isn't near as close as because of the tank roster in our guild

[opal ledge]

oh

[undone beacon]

slowness of prog
brother im still progging mythic dragons

[lusty grotto]

what happens if you tell them "ok ill go MT" and never spec MT?

[undone beacon]

[raw whale]

Hahaha i'm too loyal for that

[lusty grotto]

dont be loyal to people that aren't loyal to you

and are willing to micromanage useless shit

[opal ledge]

what if u play a try as thanes and show them there is no difference?

[lusty grotto]

its a two way street

[frosty mango]

Interestingly enough your exact scenario is why I stopped hard mythic prog

[undone beacon]

Fuck around with Col on reclear and show them that its perfectly viable for you, or just keep playing MT and grit your teeth til the season is done

[raw whale]

The more i climbed, the less guildmates gave credit for the roster they have. Currently, being top 140 isn't enough and we're not so great, from what we get from officers

[undone beacon]

Meanwhile we're ecstatic to be like, world 550th to get to 4/9 LOL

Such a mindset shift, I could never do that shit

I barely have the stomach to do what im doing now, trying to manage peoples bullshit

We sat a healer this week and they're throwing a tantrum

[frosty mango]

The world is full of bad leaders. Bad leaders are the downfall of every team and that’s true in wow even more so

[undone beacon]

mmhm

I'm too soft too lead i dont like hurting peoples feelings and i get too socially drained, I need like 10 more years of real world experience in not giving a fuck

Trying to find my escape off the officer corp of my guild right now

[frosty mango]

I’m great at firing people, just remember firing one toxic shitter makes the other 20 good peeps happier

[undone beacon]

At this point its getting close to telling them to find a guild that better fits them, even though they are one of our top healers

We have 5 healers and have rotated everyone but them and one other so people can get their kills

[raw whale]

I don't think they are bad leaders it's just that my perspective is that if everyone does 1 thing, that doesn't means that any other thing is worthless. The idea is that pros have coaches and strategist or whatever so basically someone else theorically did the math for you. Which i don't think is wrong.
I had some time in the OW Pro League and i have seen a lot of coaches and strategist just being bad at their work despite being at pro level. Or even players openly not listening to the coaches because they're stars and they don't care. So to me there is a middle ground

[lusty grotto]

copy pasting specs is not a sign for good leadership

[raw whale]

It's just very tough to show that you may have seen something different when no one else

[lusty grotto]

if they do not understand the reasoning behind it

[frosty mango]

If they can’t articulate improvement items but they are telling you to make changes that is hallmark bad leadership

They are trying to justify their position

[lusty grotto]

if they backed off, they would be good leaders

but they aren't backing off

a good leader lets their subordinates shine on their own

and helps when they cant

they do not micromanage things they do not understand

[frosty mango]

They may not be bad leaders but in that scenario they are not leading appropriately

But colo got buffed and alleria is already dead so bang your drum fam

Send the demolish

[undone beacon]

I still think you run Col on your reclear and let them see the performance for themselves

If you suck with it for whatever reason, case closed. If you crank, you crank

Real data speaks volumes, and if they dont want to see real data thats on them

Side note SpanRa, how many people are on your bench for each role

[raw whale]

I agree with that, but i'd also advocate by saying that a captain wants the ship going. If they think someone is making holes in the ship while it's sails they would obviously try and stop him. Even though the holes aren't at the bottom of the ship (if you catch what i see). I just feel like it's over micromanaging for things that have no incidences. To me it's just that there is different perspective on the player. They don't see me as an innovator or someone who has a vision. They just see me as an average joe who wants to play 1 specific hero talent

[raw whale]

We are 25 and 5 DPS are on the bench

[lusty grotto]

well, i wouldnt see you as an innovator either

thats kind of a weird flex

which is not a flex at all

[raw whale]

That's not what i meant 😄

[lusty grotto]

ok gotcha

[raw whale]

In my eyes, there is nothing wrong in playing something different as long as it doesn't hurt the raid progress. But the fact that it is different it may hurt the progress so they are scared that a lowbie like me would screw up by overcomplicating things since - as they said - everyone else has done the math for me

[undone beacon]

Which is why you play it in reclear/farm and if it fucks you it fucks you, though it really shouldnt

the math works out to them being the same, Col marginally better in ST

[raw whale]

Datas are also manipulated as you want. I was doing very fine as col, and since i had my own role in the strat i couldn't pad on adds for ever. Imagine Salhadar with a good demolish at 5min when all the small stars are all stacked up. Yum. But couldn't do it since i needed to stand close to my co-tank in case of fucks ups. Things were doing very great and on Paladins, there was some fucks up where i would die because of some miss taunts done and lack of CDs to prevent a death. Checking logs i had less heal overall than the top Thane. SO they said "oh it's because he plays col".
The debate started when i showed them that the lowest heal done by a thane was the same than me and it was because of his activity in fight (running everywhere, splitting from the fight to get a soak filled). So this is why sometimes the maths don't always work without context.

But even with context they couldn't agree with me

But it should be fine with the col up

[undone beacon]

I mean, I guess it is what it is then

[narrow prawn]

pause

[raw whale]

Indeed, some things brought here will help me getting my way into colossus !!

[severe star]

I also have a queue time

[toxic gyro]

Servers are up already?

[severe star]

of 28 minutes

[narrow prawn]

probably not

[toxic pewter]

seems like fake news

[narrow prawn]

yeah i got dced lmao

[severe star]

oh now its 2 hours

[harsh trellis]

Oh false flag

Almost left work there

[toxic pewter]

servers still down

[undone beacon]

Chompin at the fuckin bit to get 3 myth cloaks in your vaults

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[harsh trellis]

Mythic boots this week

[narrow prawn]

i doubt my myth items will be decent

[toxic pewter]

vault all cloaks, into bonus rolls all cloaks

that will be my week

[severe star]

as long as I still get mythic bracers shield or trinket becuase all 3 of those are still champ

[raw whale]

i'm from EU and i also have waiting time :/

[harsh trellis]

No crafted bracers?

[severe star]

weapon and cloak I had them vet for 2 weeks

[undone beacon]

Ideally I pull a myth gaze on the priest

[spring shoal]

Servers will probably be up again in 15 min...

[undone beacon]

[severe star]

ill let you know

[undone beacon]

im in no rush, playin that new MOUSE PI game

[toxic pewter]

just googled it wow that game looks so cool like playing in a 1930s animation lol

[sweet pasture]

II mean tried and true

[trail dome]

Can I interest you in this banger

gonna be 126 hours by the time i log in 😂

[undone beacon]

Its on the docket but i havent bought it yet tbh

I bought mouse and pirate game today so ive spent moneyyyy

cant justify more in a day

[lusty grotto]

the me and pirate game?

[charred shard]

Hey guys I just killed Mythic Chimaerus (already had killed Averzian this week). This means I get a chance for Gaze in my vault tomorrow. Do I have only one chance (top left corner) to get it, or can it appears on the dungeons vault slot as well (coz I only did 4/8 this week) ?

[oak ivy]

only myth raid slot

[lusty grotto]

it cannot appear in the dungeon slot no

only in the raid slots

[charred shard]

crap

[undone beacon]

Raid loot in raid slots, dungeon loot in dungeon slots

[lusty grotto]

and if you didnt kill 2 myth bosses... youre not gonna get a slot

[oak ivy]

ooohh.. true

[undone beacon]

He said he killed 1st too

[lusty grotto]

ok, just clarifying

[undone beacon]

So, you have one vault slot that can roll a gaze

Good luck soldier

[charred shard]

damn

[tribal wharf]

its happening

[charred shard]

might open as arm to reduce loot pool

[undone beacon]

Is this you

[lusty grotto]

how did you

stupid palantir

[undone beacon]

John Palantir downloaded it through the 5g waves into my tesla neurochip, powered by vaccines

[lusty grotto]

dont forget the birds, and the gay frogs

they be happy frogs

[undone beacon]

This is one of my favorite images on the internet

It brings me such joy

Alongside this one

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nodders

[tribal wharf]

the pysop only happens on tuesday mornings

[winged oar]

oh shit are we colossus warriors now

[lusty grotto]

read pins

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

[winged oar]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-funny-gif-21548565

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-funny-cute-awesome-gif-20320653

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/needy-streamer-overloud-needy-girl-overdose-kangel-omgkawaiiangel-psyop-gif-11634454542097293728

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-anime-penguin

[dusky canopy]

Gifs you can hear

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-5158399706079840870

[undone beacon]

i used to use this penguin religiously

https://tenor.com/view/pills-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-gif-7925317447098449756

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-1216

wait

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-the-office-2

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons8ball-deez-nuts-8ball-make-a-wish-merps-gif-26138412

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waltergotme

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-morning-pearto-teto-kasane-gif-15578854059991912799

[fringe mural]

Michael scott is you when someone recommends 1/4 apex

again

[lusty grotto]

this reminds me of @waxen frigate

[undone beacon]

picmix gifs are my favorite

i love them

absurdism at its finest

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-the-steak-charlie-steak-charlie-steak-hate-gif-16220908583929700504

[dusky canopy]

By the way, high-five for this reply

LOTR is goat

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-sunday-morning-good-morning-quotes-good-morning-images-sunday-blessings-and-prayers-sunday-morning-blessings-gif-242754106342802129

[undone beacon]

happy sunday!

https://tenor.com/view/1513-15-13-0313-03-13-313-gif-7428019114204417936

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/lazy-cat-cat-lazy-stairs-slide-gif-12601928359257518609

[undone beacon]

I love long downtime days

[waxen frigate]

I made a custom picmix for a friend earlier this year

[undone beacon]

lmao

im gonna make one for 1/4 apex

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/connection-issue-undead-world-of-gif-1478467846618454733

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1481375328038424617/image0.gif

[fallow fern]

So is there any guides/priority for where to send bonus rolls? Where you guys planning to use them?

[dusky canopy]

I’m sending mine in pit

3 large items

Good odds

Actually 4 for arms because weapon