protection

[undone beacon]

[dusky canopy]

Pash W

Ez

[frosty mango]

Remember when they told us this wasn’t possible so they just removed spellblock instead

I remember

[undone beacon]

guys holy shit decor duels tomorrow

[lofty warren]

Spell block takes too much niche knowledge but spell reflect doesnt dug

Duh

[dusky canopy]

I’m ready to use a bonus roll on Averzian and get my guidon

[frosty mango]

Teach me how to arms in raid

[undone beacon]

im gonna use mine in prop hunt

[tame jasper]

Chim, when we kill it (again not killed yesterday -_-)

[undone beacon]

F

[dusky canopy]

Bro I got you the spec owns

[tame jasper]

and 3rd kill of Averzian, 3rd kill without shield drop

[undone beacon]

Brew I'm so bad at arms and idk why

im too shadow brained now

[dusky canopy]

What confuses you

What is challenging

[frosty mango]

The change to rend really fucked me

[dusky canopy]

We can fix this

[undone beacon]

I forget to maintain rend and also I think i am prio'ing overpower over MS too much

Gotta slam MS harder

[frosty mango]

I press it now bc of muscle memory when I should prob slam instead and that kills my rage

[dusky canopy]

I suck and am washed physically but I can explain how to play and you can be better than me 😁

[undone beacon]

I need to go get some half decent raid logs so you can point things out to me

Also in dungeons i feel like hot ass on bosses

Like in packs I can crank but on bosses im like tank damage

[dusky canopy]

Well yeah Colo does 50k dps without 2 funnel adds

This is normal

[undone beacon]

oh okay

I thought i was doing something wrong

[dusky canopy]

Not at all you just need funnel

[undone beacon]

Because I was like damn im dragging ass rn

Hmmm

[dusky canopy]

When you have funnel you are turbo nuking whatever target you have selected

Keep that in mind during packs

Delete the hard target

[undone beacon]

Yeah its the same thing usually on shadow so im used to that

[wintry bear]

Stupid question: Knowing that all three talent specialisations are viable for lvl'ing, what is your guy's opinion of Protection leveling?

[pastel summit]

i love colo arms warrs in keys they always make them doing 30k single target or dying to the bosses 1 mechanic somehow my fault

[undone beacon]

Leveling is irrelevant, play whatever you vibe with

[pastel summit]

prot levelin owns

[lusty grotto]

we've leveled as prot since Legion

[dusky canopy]

Basic slam, and rend are filler so while technically it is a dps loss if you don’t need to refresh rend, it isn’t the end of the world..

[drowsy comet]

true

[lusty grotto]

thats just not gonna happen

if its a magic cast on you just send SR

its an 18s cd...

no reason to hold it

plus you have MDR even if you do not reflect

[toxic pewter]

How does prop hunt work is it a queued activity

[undone beacon]

yee

[toxic pewter]

Nice

Actually sounds fun

[heavy sparrow]

So true. Pull as much as you can with heroic throw and add reset range and mow everything down

[undone beacon]

I just used a level 70 boost I had from buying TWW to boost my sonic themed haranir for the achievement

Gamer

[harsh trellis]

NPX tech for the last boss. You throw a snowball at the boss right as he splits, and the snowball will change direction and hit the correct target to kick.

[dusky canopy]

Gamer

[lusty grotto]

when using eyes is hard

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-traitor-star-wars-gif-16767158544211392703

[hollow hill]

Anything changing with recommended talent builds tomorrow as far as mountain thane vs colossus, or is thane still superior?

[lusty grotto]

no changes

the icy veins builds got you covered

[hollow hill]

Sick, thanks homie

[jagged pier]

Imma be bonking, whose joining me?

[hollow hill]

Was kinda hoping Colossus might be better for a while, it's fun hitting those big numbers lol

[jagged pier]

U can run ither they are the same

[stiff inlet]

anyone got some 15ish logs i can look at so i can look at someone ik is doing it somewhat correctly lol

[hollow hill]

I might try running colossus for a few fights in raid just to see how it feels this season. I like the bonk

[jagged pier]

Ran in keys on the weekend and its only gunna get better on reset

[frosty mango]

I ran a bunch of 14-15 this week

It cranks now we’re gonna be ripping

[undone beacon]

I havent messed with col this week but i might tonight for the lulz in preparation of bonkmaxxing

[frosty mango]

Pulled 110k overall in pit, feels so good getting big bonks

[toxic pewter]

BONK

[stiff inlet]

ooph

[frosty mango]

Gather is still cheeks though

[toxic pewter]

yeah my main problem with colossus is like sometimes waiting for thunder clap to come off cd lmao

like shit man i need this clap here

[frosty mango]

I just use revenge to gather, takes more planning though

[toxic pewter]

yes

[jagged pier]

Just tell dps to hold for a few seconds

Once your up and running its fine

Still think thane is the play for seat tho, just because of the first pull

Hurty a lotty and u need to gather fast

[toxic pewter]

yes

[hoary dawn]

I thought Mountain Thane produce bigger bonks than Colossus, especially in M+. Bigger dmg buff to revenge, lightning bolt, thunder blast.

[undone beacon]

Col getting buffed tomorrow, bigger bonks

[jagged pier]

20 second cd on bonk on 3+ more targets

Im in

[harsh trellis]

Still think the bonk shouldn't be canceled on feign death

They should let us bonk regardless

I dont care of something is dead that im hitting with my colossus smash if anything it should do x2 dmg

[toxic pewter]

pretty sure it keeps channeling if a mob dies

[tribal wharf]

i think so too

[harsh trellis]

Cause you're pretending to sit there dead when a heavy object is coming at you

[tribal wharf]

but i cant confirm

[harsh trellis]

It doesnt

Hunters can fd it

And you lose it

[toxic pewter]

oh thats pvp but in pve if a mob dies it will still finish casting iirc

[harsh trellis]

You cast smash. Hunter fd it. It canceled the cast and you lose it

Which is just shit

[tribal wharf]

looks to me like it continues casting?

[frosty mango]

It does they changed this in s1 df

[lusty spear]

How wide is the frontal arc that an attack can be blocked or parried in?

[frosty mango]

They explicitly changed it

[lusty grotto]

180 degrees

[lusty spear]

excellent ty

[frosty mango]

Dunno bout in PvP but in pve if someone dies it does continue

I believe it also continues if your target is moved out of range

[toxic pewter]

im fairly sure u can actually heroic leap while channeling also

so like you can get the final hit as u leap and land

[dusky canopy]

Leap during demolish? Yes

[toxic pewter]

just have to aim it good

cuz of that 180 degree arc

wish it was 360 tbh

lmao

[frosty mango]

With the 800% bonus on challenging now I just rip that on the first two with a clap and it seems to be enough even in Colo until I gather the back two

Though I don’t really see many real dps heavies in 14-15

[undone beacon]

Just do a 14 with me

I'll rip off ya

Then hit fade

[toxic pewter]

when does that upgrade weapon thing go live

like i remember reading can upgrade max crafted weapon or something

[undone beacon]

Potentially tomorrow after you unlock rerolls, but no specified time or date has been given

[toxic pewter]

ok thank you

[drowsy comet]

soon

[toxic pewter]

lol

u forgot the TM

[lusty grotto]

"hey guys you need to fill out these goals, which you copy paste from your manager, which they copy paste from their general manager, which they copy paste from their subdivision director, which they copy paste from the division director, which they copy paste from the CEO"

why does management do this

[drifting hull]

illusion of company unity

[undone beacon]

my manager def used chatgpt to generate my performance review but it boiled down to "you're doing good keep it up" so whatever

[severe star]

will using the bonus roll on a mythic plus dungeon upgrade it to mythic or will it stay heroic

[undone beacon]

My old company everything went to the CEO directly and that was a nightmare

[dusky canopy]

My goal is to own the company and make a morbillion dollars along the way

What more can a person want

[undone beacon]

M+ 10 rerolls will give you a myth item

[severe star]

alright thank you

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-reaver-legacy-of-kain-lok-raziel-kain-gif-4419253927887443193

[wary gyro]

Bonus roll will give you the same ilvl/track you would get from vault for m+

[lofty warren]

How do you get 2x bonus rolls next week

If you completed the 5/5 thing in voidstorm

[wary gyro]

Once you finish the quest chain to unlock the forge you can buy them for various resources

[desert brook]

How is everyone’s NPX runs? That left wing just drills me it seems

[lusty grotto]

healers need to know to heal the tank, you can help reset heal absorbs with stuns and SR

thats about it

use IV liberally to help out as well

[jagged pier]

That be how npx is

[lusty grotto]

and health pots, of course

[jagged pier]

Dare i say the 4apex + indom LS build for npx

[lusty grotto]

[pastel summit]

million things can go wrong in that hallway

[drowsy comet]

no way

oh wait u mean in MT?

ah nvm

[pastel summit]

presumably left side in nexus

[drowsy comet]

yea Nexus is ass

[pastel summit]

challengers or w/e ramp up a necrotic on you

[drowsy comet]

giga poopoo

[tribal wharf]

group got nuked by the pink laser dude in nexus lol

[jagged pier]

Tbf thats where LS has its niche

[tribal wharf]

we didnt have lust though which didnt help anything

[jagged pier]

Like literally there big tank damage and heal absorb

[lofty warren]

in nexus ive been taking the least amount of mobs on left side and doing all of right mobs.

[jagged pier]

At the same time

[drowsy comet]

i see more and more tanks going right side first and then left side, simply cuz left side is a fuckery on its own lol

[tribal wharf]

sucks im wasting all those buffs now

[jagged pier]

Better lust timing

Dont need it for dps increase boss really

[desert brook]

I play with a hpal usually. We lust our first pull going left which usually goes pretty good. But other than that not sure if stuff isn’t dying fast enough or what but I run out of everything quickly. Maybe just need to pull less for now. Cant get this 16 to save my life

[lusty grotto]

if you do left pull fine with lust, whats killing you is not the heal absorbs, do you have a log and/or are you eating ground aoes? are you pulling circuit seers for no reason?

again to reiterate, link us the log

we cant work with scenarios without data

[desert brook]

Sure, I’ll have to grab one of my recents. The list pull goes down quickly I think is why it’s fine, just after that it gets weird. I’m gonna have to check my recents

[lusty grotto]

[drowsy comet]

who tf pinged me

[toxic pewter]

me i ping u

[frosty mango]

We lust this instead of first pull, I’ve found it’s maybe slightly less time efficient but also much less risk of death lusting there

And it’s still up for right side boss

[drowsy comet]

[frosty mango]

The first left side pull is a bunch of heal absorb guys and the channeled guy, can burn down the channeled guy before he casts and then the heal absorb is generally a nonissue with lust and stops

Just don’t charge into the stun line. Not that I’ve done that but if I did, I’m just saying it would be bad

[lusty grotto]

not just the stun line

the ground aoes also stun

[drowsy comet]

crazy how many paladins are around... im getting palaphobia ong bruh

[ruby musk]

What talent would one drop for BSV? Ravager?

[lusty grotto]

enduring alacrity or bloodborne

ravager stays, its a lot of rage

[runic bolt]

what do we upgrade with void next week?

[ruby musk]

Wait... why doesn't my build have bloodsurge already...

[lusty grotto]

sorry bloodborne

[tribal wharf]

ooohhhhh yyaaaa

[torn gulch]

[lusty grotto]

a whole 49g

[torn gulch]

defensive trinkets this season are ultra ass

[lusty grotto]

except solar core which is actually good

[torn gulch]

maybe except one or 2

[lusty grotto]

but yeah youre right

[tribal wharf]

i still wanted it anyways lol

[torn gulch]

the one with vers on shield break?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[tribal wharf]

now i dont have to get it on hero

[torn gulch]

do you even see that vers?

[lusty grotto]

its not good because of the vers

its good because its a partial shield

[torn gulch]

it's 1.5 min

and partial

[lusty grotto]

and the cd yes

[tribal wharf]

but, part of reason i want is i dont have to think about trying to activate it

[torn gulch]

the fact that I have to go to chimaerus to try to get gaze

meh

i'm debating raiding for the first time in a while

[tribal wharf]

this is the garbage one

on use, and healing

based on dmg

[torn gulch]

Can I enter a M Chimaerus group if I do it on heroic I wonder

Might raid that then

[undone beacon]

Yeah

Its very hit or miss to pug M Chim but its doable

[tribal wharf]

im going for that one too

[undone beacon]

Just make sure to budget a few hours for it

[tribal wharf]

i would just like to clarify all of this

[torn gulch]

I don't mind doing some progress as long as I get the kill and then get better groups with it

Gaze is just too strong

[tribal wharf]

any trinket that i can get, i will potentially use it

[undone beacon]

There will probably be a lot of shitters in M Chim pugs going for the gaze but

[torn gulch]

If I don't raid what trinkets do I even play with

Solarflare

and something else

[quick dirge]

Hello, here to settle a debate. on Lightguard Vanguard can a prot warrior spell reflect the judgment

[solid sun]

Puzzle box

[lusty grotto]

heart of wind and solar flare

[torn gulch]

ultrapuke

[lusty grotto]

or heart of wind and puzzlebox yes

[lusty grotto]

no

[vital stirrup]

no but you can reflect the busters after

[lusty grotto]

only SotR/FV

[vital stirrup]

or reflect one and deflect the other

[lusty grotto]

and Senn's casts

the sheet is pinned, you can look it up there

[torn gulch]

I'll ahve to do some sims with bis trinkets vs heart of wind and solarflare

to see how much i lose

[solid sun]

You can sim H gaze too

[lusty grotto]

heart of wind +

1. puzzlebox
2. solar flare
3. solar core (if a defensive option is needed)

[solid sun]

H gaze p good

[lusty grotto]

those are our M+ choices

[torn gulch]

that works
i'll continue debating with myself if i go to chimaerus this season

[solid sun]

I killed H Chim in one shot

[lusty grotto]

contract also performs well even with tank tax

but thats about it

i wouldn't go out of my way to get it however

[solid sun]

Are you leaving out H Gaze because it doesn’t actually compete with M trinkets or because he said he doesn’t raid

[quiet matrix]

Does recrafting items require sparks 🤔

[vital stirrup]

no

[solid sun]

Because I would argue H Chim is more like a world boss than raiding

[torn gulch]

because i don't raid

I haven't raided since amirdrassil

[solid sun]

You can join with some of us who have aotc and kill it super fast if you’d like

If it’s a time issue

[lusty grotto]

why does that matter if he wont get the trinket

[torn gulch]

nah it's fine

[solid sun]

I mean I did

[torn gulch]

i'll see what i get season is long

[solid sun]

You never know

[torn gulch]

i have time until august

[stiff inlet]

did they say what week they gonna be done with crest caps?

[torn gulch]

no

[lusty grotto]

they have not

[stiff inlet]

ty

[torn gulch]

I suspect crest will not be uncapped for a while with this new system

because it's not really needed

[vital stirrup]

my guess is .7

[lusty grotto]

well, if it does we're still too early into the season

[narrow yew]

are we still thane or any colossus swappers with changes

[torn gulch]

you get full gear upgraded in about 12-13 weeks if we were careful with crests

in a 24-25 weeks season that is reasonable

It sounds a little bit antiplayer but if I was Blizzard I wouldn't uncap crests until x.x.7 now

[warm plinth]

Personal preference really. They are close enough for it not to matter.

[narrow yew]

solid thanks

[cerulean tusk]

Col always been more fun

Demo opop

[fringe mural]

i'm only one 10 out now

Just need to do maisara for 2.5k

[cerulean tusk]

Big, you got this

[undone beacon]

Freakin gaming

[ivory barn]

Thane Prot will be fine tomorrow right? I got promoted to raid tank for a day

[undone beacon]

Thane prot will be fine

There are no changes to thane prot

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/bambi2-happy-jumping-with-joy-excited-yay-gif-10897229334538058475

[lusty grotto]

colossus is slightly more dps in raid

thane is slightly more dps in keys

thats it

play either one you like

[ivory barn]

Just heroic raid, I like thane

It takes 4 sparks to craft weap/shield right?

[abstract arch]

Thane is somehow more braindead than nubrew. So col all the way

[solid sun]

Is H March still miserable

Or are people blasting it out of the water now

[cobalt jewel]

Guys, i'm getting desperate, this shit is actually making me feel like quitting, I'm getting destroyed in m+ with 273 ilvl, 12 is my absolute max and one out of 2 keys end in a ff on the first pulls, especially xenas and skyreach, i don't know what to do, i'm panicking as soon as things are starting to go south, I press everything, it's humiliating, I feel like i'm so squishy it's pathetic, i'm seeing similar ilvl roll 14's almost no problem and i'm over here fighting for my life every second, it cannot be normal. I can't handle it, every time I get picked for in PU I feel like this was a mistake god help me

[abstract arch]

Have you tried blaming the healer?

[cobalt jewel]

I mustn't lie, tho

[lusty grotto]

do you have bigwigs or DBM with littlewigs and dbm dungeons?

[abstract arch]

Jut believe it then lol

[lusty grotto]

make sure you dont have private auras disabled

and make sure you move them to a visible place

you need to track dots

and the heal absorbs

and you need to know how to reset them

stunning and SR works on NPX heal absorbs

stunning and stepping away for a second resets Skyreach stacks

[abstract arch]

Same with AA lashers

Well not reset, but you stop taking them

[lusty grotto]

same goes for AA first pull, except you cant reset it as easily since its a 25 yard range cast, you need to leap at 5s or less for it

tracking dots this season is required

[cobalt jewel]

I'm so focused on my pack, I see something pulling aggro I try to charge it but ZAP ⚡ forgot there was a laser beam in NPX

[lusty grotto]

make sure you have DBM or Bigwigs with their dungeon companion addons

[dusky canopy]

You need to track dn

[lusty grotto]

no u

[cobalt jewel]

what's dn ?

[dusky canopy]

DeezNaughts

The arms talent

[cobalt jewel]

[lusty grotto]

dragon necropolis, an eq1 raid

where the sleeper lies

[dusky canopy]

Damnit the age is showing again

[lusty grotto]

i hope youre reading what i typed

cause i aint doing it again

[cobalt jewel]

I am reading

Is adding even more addon to the game really going to help ? Like don't I already have debuffs showing by default ?

[lusty grotto]

wdym

[cobalt jewel]

I'm not trying to argue, i'm genuinely asking

[lusty grotto]

you dont have DBM or Bigwigs?

[cobalt jewel]

Well you said bigwigs or something was a debuff tracking addon right ?

I have dmb yeah

Not bw

[lusty grotto]

i said "or"

not both

they serve the same purpose

[ivory barn]

Dbm can do it too

[solid sun]

Is there background info

[ivory barn]

Just preference

[lusty grotto]

but yes you need DBM dungeons for dungeons alerts

and in the case of bigwigs, littlewigs manages dungeons alerts

this is not a "more addons" thing, it has been pretty standard in M+ since expansions ago

[solid sun]

Are you maintaining SB and doing all the proper tank stuff

Etc etc

[cobalt jewel]

well it's my first time tanking in m+ ever

[lusty grotto]

here's the link https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/deadly-boss-mods-dbm-dungeons

[cobalt jewel]

thank you, I got it through curse

[lusty grotto]

even if you didnt tank, you should have had it on

[cursive hemlock]

Actually talking abt this is there a way to check sb uptime specifically when ur in combat?

[lusty grotto]

in logs sure

[cursive hemlock]

Ye in logs

[solid sun]

You can track it with cdm

You can see it in logs and we care about blocked hits

[cobalt jewel]

No I mean my first time doing m+ whatsoever actually, sorry

[lusty grotto]

go to damage taken and hover your mouse over Melee hits

[lusty grotto]

no worries, youre good

[dusky canopy]

Ahh, a new new player! Welcome!

[solid sun]

Have you gone to icy veins and looked over the prot warrior guide yet?

[ivory barn]

Everybody starts somewhere, welcome to Warcraft!

[cobalt jewel]

I have, I got some bis, some crafts i'm using flasks and platter for aggro, I got the right talents

[undone beacon]

Look at all this wholesome energy

[stiff inlet]

i guess you guys were right

[undone beacon]

Do you have the right talents though

[dusky canopy]

I like new people it means my game isnt dying yet

[ivory barn]

Can you show talents?

[stiff inlet]

i did alot more damage that 14 and didnt feel more dying

[undone beacon]

dead game everyone is playing Lucid Blocks now

[undone beacon]

[cobalt jewel]

I've been playing wow since cata, i've just been a casual for the longest time and only tanked through hero aberrus back in DF, and that's literally all my actual experience

[lusty grotto]

ok dont get overwhelmed here, now that you have DBM dungeons make sure you track the dots correctly, they are likely what is killing you in those two examples

[cobalt jewel]

Other than that I just did delves

[lusty grotto]

BIS is not really BIS

[stiff inlet]

the dps ripped too, we +2'd WR with a minute to spare lol

[lusty grotto]

we sim for whatever we need to equip

[solid sun]

If you’re just now getting dbm, I’m guessing you haven’t started logging yet.

[lusty grotto]

Rhino

please hold on

[dusky canopy]

Well, it is the technical best combination of all available gear but you are very unlikely to aquire all the pieces on myth track

[lusty grotto]

hes not asking for general advice

[undone beacon]

See, easy money. We know whats up

[lusty grotto]

dont overwhelm the guy

[stiff inlet]

it was still a green parse so i still suck

but better then single digits lmao

[undone beacon]

All in due time

[ivory barn]

That's a good song tho

[stiff inlet]

the dps didnt play tho

[undone beacon]

Key parses are also kinda jank af

[civic holly]

whats the best shield block/ignore pain trackers you guys have found?

[undone beacon]

Blizz's CDM

[solid sun]

Cdm

[civic holly]

i miss my WA so bad

[harsh trellis]

In game default bars

[stiff inlet]

for sure, but when i was pulling 8's a 40 feels alot better

[undone beacon]

Fair enough, fair enough

[harsh trellis]

The built in default cooldown is awesome

[civic holly]

eh its a big ugly bar

[harsh trellis]

And it works

[civic holly]

i was hoping for an icon that shows cd and buff duration for sb

[undone beacon]

BetterCDM and AyijeCDM are two popular options, ArcUI as well

[civic holly]

thanks pash

ill check em out

[harsh trellis]

I want a bookmark option in discord

[toxic gyro]

I got used to default bar for sb and IP I don’t even track anymore.

[abstract arch]

Fiddle around with arcui and msuf

[stiff inlet]

i made my own bar for SB on arc ui

its not super hard

[abstract arch]

Same for brew

[torn gulch]

I use the cdm bar for SB and it works well enough

[undone beacon]

Arc was nice but i also end up between computers sometime so leaving things as base as possible makes that super easy

[abstract arch]

I play on my smartfridge

[torn gulch]

And I don't track IP at all but I track absorbs on my own plate

[undone beacon]

Had to dogsit for my parents and raid on my moms PC, most of my shit was intact so i was able to still parse

honestly was kinda nice

I wish the default nameplates were better

[jagged pier]

u can make it an icon

literally in the default settings

[steady pond]

Almost 90% im getting better, daddy

[undone beacon]

Big daddy shit right there

[ivory barn]

Arcui, seems slightly heavier cpu

[stiff inlet]

where do you see that

[tribal wharf]

I'm not entirely sure what I'd be getting wrong but I thought it the past not sure words but a 100k bubble 40% absorb is better than a 150k no Dr or whatever it is trinket examples in think of is neltharians lair trinket was good and now jellyisbad

[lusty grotto]

@stiff inlet

in logs

[stiff inlet]

yeah found it! im at 75% the last dung

ty

[ivory barn]

Would a bar for SB like this for enrage be better than an icon?

[fringe mural]

i just noticed you can show an icon when a buff fades in standard ui

[lusty grotto]

that needs a lot of work

[tribal wharf]

Maybe it's case by case thing

[stiff inlet]

does that mean im taking hits to the back?

[lusty grotto]

likely youre not managing SB correctly

did you read the pins?

and are you HR?

[vital stirrup]

what would a good amount of blocked hits look like? just looked at my own and its 89

[lusty grotto]

90%+ at a bare min

[dusky canopy]

95+

[fringe mural]

i'm not even dropping sb anymore even between pulls

[lusty grotto]

95%+ ideally

[vital stirrup]

got work to do then

[undone beacon]

You want it as close to 100% as possible, but realistically 95% is the number to aim for

[fringe mural]

hr and haste are extreme

when combined you will usually have 20+ seconds left when a pack dies

[dusky canopy]

You will not hit 100% but should shoot for it

[fringe mural]

Unless you are really unlucky with procs

[stiff inlet]

I am HR

[lusty grotto]

then you need to keep SB up

[undone beacon]

Who wants to run a 2 with me where i aim for as low blocked hit % as possible

[lusty grotto]

can you link the log? we can check for back hits

[stiff inlet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Mg7dmXkNV3LjK42a?fight=last&type=damage-taken&source=2

[undone beacon]

qweqa is a very common report name i feel

[tribal wharf]

0 % blocked key as part when

[stiff inlet]

lol the left hand random letters

[lusty grotto]

my dude? where are you getting the 75% from?

[vital stirrup]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3Xf1YZRQm8nVqgcK?fight=6&type=summary&source=346

could you see if im getting backshotted as well?

[tribal wharf]

No parry neither I'd say but that's rmg

[vital stirrup]

not sure how to check

[lusty grotto]

read what i said again

[lusty grotto]

right here

i specifically put italics on the word

hits

let me just make it bold

[vital stirrup]

i did

[stiff inlet]

well im slow

[vital stirrup]

just wasnt sure what part meant back hits

[stiff inlet]

lol my bad

[lusty grotto]

im not addressing you atm

[vital stirrup]

ahhhh mb

xd

[stiff inlet]

i didnt realize it broke both down like that

87 alot better then 75 then so thats good

[lusty grotto]

well 60

[undone beacon]

backshots

[stiff inlet]

lol

[undone beacon]

[lusty grotto]

you mastery blocked 23 of them

[fringe mural]

talk to the hand nimchip style

[lusty grotto]

which means you did not have SB up

[dusky canopy]

My new daily post

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-super-saiyan-dragon-ball-z-gif-14746208

[dusky canopy]

Thank nim

[lusty grotto]

can we stop with the memes

for a second

[ivory barn]

Yes sorry

[stiff inlet]

i am 100% sure that a few are when i charge in i need to be better on getting SB up instantly if im pulling multiple packs

[lusty grotto]

you were at 95%, this is good

[stiff inlet]

i will work on making sure uptime is better ty

[vital stirrup]

just felt like i was getting fucked at times

guess i need to get better at dropping the bleed

[undone beacon]

You did take a lot from fiery talon yeah, which is the dot

[vital stirrup]

yea i was trying to drop it at times but didnt always go super well

[undone beacon]

drop a stun and backpedal away

dont leap to narnia and fuck your team

[vital stirrup]

will keep that in mind for next time

thanks for the tips

[lusty grotto]

sorry let me reiterate

to check for back hits

make sure SB is green

anything not blocked there (while SB is active) is a back hit

so in @stiff inlet 's case 88 back hits

in @vital stirrup 's case they took 59 back hits

[stiff inlet]

and the 80 were the amount of hits i took without SB UP

got it

[lusty grotto]

no

[vital stirrup]

gonna keep an eye on that

[lusty grotto]

we're only checking for back hits here

[ivory barn]

SB could be up, you got clipped in the back

[lusty grotto]

^

SB IS up

thats why we clicked it to be green

[stiff inlet]

i ment when SB has the red outline in the log

that we just checked

[lusty grotto]

no

disregard that

[dusky canopy]

Green = who knows
Red = who knows

[lusty grotto]

i just check for back hits differently, but this way is quicker

trying ghash's method

[dusky canopy]

Green box is quickest I would agree

[lusty grotto]

disregard SB being red, that just means hits while SB was not up - this is not what we're looking for (and any blocking there is done via block chance/mastery)

[fringe mural]

can i turn on auto logging in keys with dbm dungeons?

[stiff inlet]

got it

thank you

[stiff inlet]

pretty sure thats how i do it

[ivory barn]

Can raider io upload logs?

[lusty grotto]

upload no

but it can record logs

uploading is only done with the WCL Uploader

[ivory barn]

Ah, ok I was gonna start logging my keys

[tribal wharf]

warcraftlogs or WCL uploader for uploading logs

loggerhead for auto segment and log keys

works like a charm once set up

and then on top of that i have outplayed app which records footage to 8tb HDD

[ivory barn]

It's through archon app now?

[tribal wharf]

i use curseforge for that

as curseforge runs from the same exe that outplayed does

overwolf

[lusty grotto]

no

you can install the barebones WCL Uploader

[tribal wharf]

WCLU is a standalone

[lusty grotto]

thats what i use

[ivory barn]

I need to go refind that

[lusty grotto]

archon does it too, but i can't be bothered, WCL Uploader works just fine

[coarse stump]

On wowhead it says bis crafts are weapon + shield. But isnt a mythic weapon/shield better?

[shy python]

That doen't work anymore

[lusty grotto]

we dont support wowhead anymore, use icy-veins and check our pins - but yes myth tracks are better, you skip those crafts if you have myth tracks

[tribal wharf]

you cant easily get a haste shield on mythic

thats part of it

[lusty grotto]

no

[tribal wharf]

and if you are a smith yourself, and you put points into relevant peices will be repair all slots for free

[lusty grotto]

disregard everything above this message

[tribal wharf]

after some amount of weeks

[coarse stump]

ok so bis gear is just cloak + bracers, if i hasve myth wpn/shield

[lusty grotto]

bis depends on sims

but

those are good embelish slots

[harsh trellis]

Use the raider io addon

[lusty grotto]

if thats what you were trying to say

[mighty valley]

recommended crafts are often written with the start of the season in mind, and getting crafted weap/shield are big early boosts

but yeah, replaced later

[coarse stump]

i just wanna do 2 bis crafts, dont care for a weapon, its just a alt

[mighty valley]

then yeah just do two embellishes

[lusty grotto]

if you dont care too much then yeah go for bracers and cloak

otherwise sim

[coarse stump]

okay, if i have bracers already, i assume i can go feet ?

[lusty grotto]

s

i

m

include the loa ring while youre at it

[onyx hearth]

1 day to be 5% larger

[outer willow]

Sounds like the ads I get on my computer

[ivory barn]

8hr maintenance starting at 7a PDT... LOL

[lusty grotto]

good

cause ill be at the office

[ivory barn]

I highly doubt it will be back before dinner

[lusty grotto]

why worry about it

[undone beacon]

because i need vault content to survive

[ivory barn]

Raid starts right after LOL

[undone beacon]

Tuesday raiding

[lusty grotto]

and thats why you dont join tuesday raiding guilds

[ivory barn]

We are Tues/Wed

[lusty grotto]

patch fucking you over? check
ddos fucking you over? check

[undone beacon]

While you're waiting for servers to come back up for your tuesday raid, I will be doing whatever this is

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

What the!?

[undone beacon]

Lucid Blocks is a trip but its fun to stumble blind through the world trying to figure shit out

[signal magnet]

I don’t have a guild or friends who play, can I get a Gratz for Let Me Solo Him. I’ve been trying for two weeks.

[undone beacon]

hell yeah gamer

[cedar kite]

gz

[signal magnet]

Thank you.

I tried to tell my wife but she gave me wife face

[dusky canopy]

Ggz!

[tribal wharf]

what game is that

looks vaguely doom

[undone beacon]

Lucid Blocks

its minecraft on drugs

[tribal wharf]

if its minecraft i dont want to lol

i saw a weapon and health

ri p

[ivory barn]

Nice!

That delve is a fun boss tbh

Finally tried it as fury and

[signal magnet]

Yeah it was good. I liked progressing via talent changes and elixirs

Like I had mechanics down but I just need to figure out the balance of talents and finally pulled it off

[urban bane]

colossus owns

[abstract arch]

I came pretty closed to fabled on release

I should prob go back and finish it

[lusty grotto]

should be np now with gear

[undone beacon]

Now that the dust is settled, it looks like i was rank 178 for the ?? Nullaeus kill

Pretty neat

[ivory barn]

I was ~1900

[undone beacon]

Noiceeee

[ivory barn]

Everyone complaining it was a jobless achievement lol

[proven kite]

With the colossus changes… we feel like it’s still gonna be Mountain thane?

Will it be close?

[mellow bridge]

it was

went online at 2pm

already closed

smile

[undone beacon]

Both will be viable. Thane has a slight edge in M+, Col in Raid, but they are about the same

Play what you prefer

[proven kite]

Big time colossus fan boy here. So I’ll be rolling that !

[ivory barn]

With EU yeah, feel bad for y'all

[lusty grotto]

why

EU had its own separate leaderboard

[daring marlin]

^this

It's region based

[undone beacon]

I think moreso because EU opened and closed within like 4 hours

[ivory barn]

Oh /slaps self

[undone beacon]

That shit was snapped up asap

[vital stirrup]

Was closer to 6

Got it around lunch

[undone beacon]

NA was at least open through a daily reset iirc

[daring marlin]

mfs prolly saw how easy it was for NA and thought I GOTTA GO DO IT

meanwhile I was wiping in heroic raid

[undone beacon]

I feel bad for EU because they're EU

[ivory barn]

Easy? It took me 8 1/2 minutes to kill with 240 gear

[undone beacon]

Yeah the fight wasnt hard it was just a damage sponge in low gear

[daring marlin]

you got a loicense for that meme, mate?

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-dog-dad-gayz-gay-london-london-gay-england-gif-8036926775737075860

[daring marlin]

LMFAO

[undone beacon]

Part of me wants to get the new Tomadachi Life for the switch

My brother got it and ive been messing around on his island and its very amusing

I still have so much shit on steam to 100% tho

[prime plover]

Is there any guidance on what we should target first with the void cores starting tomorrow

Is it just trinkets first and whatever low pieces are?

[lusty grotto]

there's no guidance because it depends on what you have

[prime plover]

Yea thats what I though

Just checking if there was a catch all

[lusty grotto]

droptimizer is usually best unless you want defensive (there's only 1) options

[prime plover]

What the good defensive option haha

I just run gaze and vorasius trinket

[lusty grotto]

solar core

[prime plover]

Got ya, ok

Tyty

[hardy snow]

what affects vaelgor circle after beam that Im tanking so it's smaller or bigger?

[lusty grotto]

taking stacks

of the beam

[hardy snow]

why its different despite me and other tank have 8 stacks but sometimes its small, sometimes big

[lusty grotto]

small stacks bigger strong pull, more stacks smaller weaker pull

no idea

[undone beacon]

No raidbots premium so i gotta sim each dungeon individually sadgers

[lusty grotto]

keep in mind the size is different from the beam tank to the rest of the raid

i think stacks are just pull strength

so on size, thats the only thing i can think of

[undone beacon]

Yeah the size of the circle you run out of is based on your personal position

So you always have to run the same distance

[hardy snow]

yeah I know, but im getting different sizes on very first beam that Im tanking

[undone beacon]

Tank beam reduces strength of the pull

Different sizes or different pull strength?

[hardy snow]

sizes

sometimes i must leap out of vaelgor's red circle (target marker), sometimes its just smol leap enough

despite staying and having center in same place

[undone beacon]

The "size" of the circle you escape from doesnt matter

All that matters is the pull strength, which is what you lessen when you soak

You also dont want to leap out right away since you want to be the once to trigger the Nullzone Implosion

[trail forge]

Does Spell Reflect work on Mythic Paladins tankbusters the same as Heroic?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[trail forge]

Excellent, I thought so. Figured this was faster than checking logs

Combine with a Blood DK and I think we only need to swap 3 times all fight

[undone beacon]

Looks like Xenas is going to be the dungeon to reroll with on my priest, 4 upgrades to 3 DEs

Exciting

[lusty grotto]

even faster is checking the pins and going straight to the maxroll sheet

[undone beacon]

Prayge for gaze in vault

[daring marlin]

[undone beacon]

Channeling my inner Guil and manifesting a vault Gaze

[narrow prawn]

I'm already burned out of this season

Did everything +15 and I already wanna quit lol

[undone beacon]

It is a game at the end of the day, take a break for a bit

Content aint going anywhere for a while

[narrow prawn]

Yeah, and 12.0.5 doesn't really bring anything interesting for me

[undone beacon]

This guy HATES prop hunt

[toxic gyro]

I just want spellblock back with the amount of aids mobs that do magic dmg with their melee 💀

[harsh trellis]

So take a break

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1412887946507321344/spellblockboom.gif

[toxic gyro]

[lusty grotto]

prop hunt you say?

[undone beacon]

You dont even need a house to prop hunt

It takes place in silvermooooon

[lusty grotto]

thank christ

[hardy snow]

well, sometimes it does, cause I had circles big enough that I had to move boss to exit it :v

[stoic hound]

is it possible to to such pull?

[hardy snow]

and I assume Im doing something wrong

[undone beacon]

You aggro the mobs, and then bring them into the boss room and fight them with the boss

[lusty grotto]

i think he means

[undone beacon]

Is it viable? Dunno

[lusty grotto]

they will go down through g25

[undone beacon]

But it is possible

[lusty grotto]

just jump down and snap probs

[undone beacon]

Think they would snap? I feel like they'd try and path through the stair pack still

[lusty grotto]

yeah idk

hard to say, i havent tried that yet

[undone beacon]

could be something worth going into heroic to see i guess

love some weird routing

[lusty grotto]

hmmm

can just do follower dungeon

[undone beacon]

oh trueeeee

[lusty grotto]

or yeah heroic ig

[stoic hound]

thank you, will try follower

[daring marlin]

Manifesting it FOR YOU

[undone beacon]

i spent a lot of time in heroic motherlode in S2 TWW crafting some truly godly routes with horrendous lust timings

[undone beacon]

[lusty grotto]

maybe not follower cause those stupid bots will agro everything

[undone beacon]

Yeah i can imagine the bots will fuck things up

[lusty grotto]

especially the one worgen hunter that just jumps around like an idiot

[undone beacon]

Its player accurate

[lusty grotto]

i swear hes even stupider than most players

[stoic hound]

but without followers I

am I forced to run it normal and kill mobs on my own?

[lusty grotto]

sure

its easy

i did m0 skyreach the other day and i didnt have issues soloing it to check routing shit

until the 2nd boss

which just perma heals cause i dont have beam soaks

[undone beacon]

Or jump into a solo heroic or even a solo normal

If the goal is just checking route and mob behavior, it doesn’t matter much

[stoic hound]

also do you prefer skip the miniboss on the last pull on the way to last boss or take it?

[paper coral]

I think I figured it out. I like prot paladin cause wings+divine toll gives me shivers. I dont have anything on prot warrior that quite gives me the same feeling on command, but the general feel of prot warrior is way more steady. I wish warrior could give me that same dopamine hit or something.

[lusty grotto]

what key level is this for?

[stoic hound]

15

[lusty grotto]

you dont need such a weird route for a 15

just do the 12 route

optimize routes at 17 or higher

[undone beacon]

Avatar + Demolish go brrrrr

[pale sequoia]

anyone thinking colosus will be better on reset?

[paper coral]

I do like demolish, but when I was playing with it I wasnt sure of the rotation. i kept wanting to hit tclap like it owed me money.

and tbh warrior has enough keybinds. I ws trying to figure out when to use demolish properly.

[undone beacon]

They will be about the same in all content. Thane has a slight edge in M+ and Col in raid. You can play either

You send demolish essentially on CD, preferably with 10 stacks of Colossal Might

Esp after tomorrow, it’ll be up a lot

[paper coral]

I forget what that change does.

[undone beacon]

CDR from getting a might stack while at 10 is now 5 seconds, up from 2 seconds

And you get a might stack anytime you hit SS, or Revenge 3+ targets

[dusky canopy]

Demolish fkn owns

I’m pumped

[undone beacon]

Yeah we’re gonna have it up so much

[ivory barn]

That channeled ability can bite my ass

[undone beacon]

Arms is gonna go crazy too with it

[warm plinth]

You still hit tclap essentially on cooldown as colossus for the rage. It's not competing with anything except SS since revenge is a spender vs a generator

You'll still press it less anyway since you don't have storm surge

[frosty mango]

Think consensus was arms changes are a slight nerf?

[undone beacon]

Wait how

CD desync?

[frosty mango]

No they nerfed damage I believe

[undone beacon]

Didn’t see anything in the notes about that but, alas

[lusty grotto]

thats not what archi is saying in #updates-midnight

[undone beacon]

For once shadow didn’t get psychic link tuning with a patch

[lusty grotto]

well i guess its small nerfs yea

[frosty mango]

Didn’t practiced strikes go from 20 > 15 and you lose a free cleave?

I think the cdr change could end up being higher m+ overall if you pull around it

But yea I think it was like 5-8%? They were talking about it in the channel the other day

[lusty grotto]

its in the latest archi post

in there

[frosty mango]

All I know

Is more demolish = more fun

[tribal wharf]

more fun until less rage and splat cuz didnt manage rage and hit sb ip

so, bc thane dont change much i doubt i will change off thane unless col is like 30% better, which it cant be

[blazing shuttle]

Not YET.

[paper coral]

ok, cause it was my most accessible keybind for me. I use a nostromo, so it was my "8" key, which is right under my middle finger. thats why it was so easy for me to hit it often. I can keep it there if we still hit tclap as often as possible.

[frosty mango]

Meta is always what’s more dps

If colossus was 5% more dps and 50% less health, if it was enough for you to stay alive everyone would play colossus

[mighty valley]

when you've got a ton of rage coming in, you can skip some claps since revenge slaps on colossus. but yeah, especially early expansion, you mostly just follow ss > tc > rev

[lusty grotto]

we play frothing as colossus

with is 20% to refund half of the rage spent

plus you get a shitload of free revenges due to parries

and because of BSC

[stoic hound]

you were right, just timed it

[lusty grotto]

gz

[stoic hound]

with standard

is that good ratio for us?

[mighty valley]

better saul call

[lusty grotto]

as a rule of thumb never do weird routes until you see that you're not timing due to known dps (or are too close to not time)

[frosty mango]

It’s difficult to gauge overall in game bc it doesn’t account for downtime in the way a log does

You could take a 10 minute break between each pack while waiting for cds and do 200k overall on the in game meter

[stoic hound]

my laptop is not that good, I do not additional fps loss if I turn on logs and start to log every run to check 🙁

[frosty mango]

For that key personally I’d say 93k is prob on the low side of good with those dps

I would aim for 100-110

But like I said it’s hard to really know from the in game meter

[stoic hound]

thank you, got it

[lusty grotto]

for 15s? 100 is probably way too low

110+

oh wait

what are we talking about

is it dps dps or tank dps?

because 100 is fine as tank, but it depends on the dungeon

youre not gonna consistently do 100k

[stoic hound]

tank dps and ratio to 3 other dps

[lusty grotto]

no idea

logs are better like Roid said

people usually log, just look yourself up and see if someone uploaded it

[stoic hound]

yep I will log every run once i get my pc

[lusty grotto]

80k+ is more than fine for 15s

[sweet summit]

is 12.0.5 making colossal valid for m+=

[frosty mango]

Not with that attitude 🥇

[frosty mango]

It’s already valid for m+

[sweet summit]

Does it burst like it did in tww?

[frosty mango]

Tomorrow it will be more valid!

[frosty mango]

Define “like it did in tww”

[sweet summit]

hmm, i remember using demolish in keys in tww and dealing highest damage on that specific pull.

[frosty mango]

That’s more a statement on your dps than the capability of colossus but it’s overall dps capability is solid and will get better tomorrow

[lofty warren]

demolish was s2 tww

[sweet summit]

is it still like that?

[lusty grotto]

no

demolish does big damage but it was nerfed

its not bursty

revenge is your highest damage

[mighty valley]

it's usually the biggest damage source when you use it on a short pull but that doesn't mean much, it's less of a portion of overall than it was in tww

although the cd will be lower tomorrow

[lofty warren]

demolish is still higher on priority then revenge

[lusty grotto]

midnight colossus is way more sustained aoe compared to tww colossus

[sweet summit]

So why are all the top players running thane instead of colossus?

is it more tanky

[lofty warren]

bc thane is better

[frosty mango]

It’s not bursty like it was in early tww but the overall dps capability is great because it’s very sustained

[lusty grotto]

thane is more dps

[mighty valley]

demolish is higher priority than every other on-gcd button

[lusty grotto]

colossus even with the changes is still short a little bit in aoe

[lofty warren]

aoe stomp aoe stomp aoe stomp

[lusty grotto]

but honestly it doesnt really matter

[sweet summit]

its kinda sad that its like that

[lusty grotto]

not really

its close in dps

you can play whatever you want

[sweet summit]

i feel like colossus is all about big damage

[mighty valley]

most people would be better served playing thane even if colossus was slightly higher dps

[shut summit]

colossus is also just such a headache to gather mobs compared to pressing tclap every other gcd

[frosty mango]

Yes but if it did 10% more damage, you’d play it wouldn’t you

[lofty warren]

terrible aoe threat no thanks id rather aoe stomp

[lusty grotto]

colossus is (right now) at -9.3% under thane in aoe, while on the patch it'll be at -3.5%

[shut summit]

of course, wouldn't change my opinion that it's a headache for the gather

[frosty mango]

I think we can comfortably call that a fact at this point

[lusty grotto]

live colossus is -1.7% under thane in ST and patch colossus is ahead 1.2% after the patch

so its super close

play what you want

[frosty mango]

Blizz has been pretty solid on tank balance for some time now

[sweet summit]

What about for aoe?

[lusty grotto]

scroll up

[sweet summit]

wow how did i miss that

[torn gulch]

Very solid indeed that's why brew is in another galaxy

[mighty valley]

once you've planted and pressed demolish once, threat is no longer an issue... but some dps ain't waiting that long

[frosty mango]

Brew isn’t vastly better than other tanks

[sweet summit]

Playing brew is such a breeze compared to prot warrior

[lusty grotto]

let brew have their time to shine, they deserve a meta season

[sweet summit]

true

but they are so boring after the midnight changes

[frosty mango]

More people playing a spec =\= spec is grossly imbalanced

[torn gulch]

I tried pugging keys as guardian druid and i quit it for the season after 3 keys

Actually insane

[lusty grotto]

it is insane

considering

MDI time trials are using bears

[sweet summit]

druid was looking so good, until it wasnt

[lusty grotto]

[torn gulch]

I have no problem with current iteration of guardian but I can't even gather effectively in pugs

What am I supposed to do

[lusty grotto]

swipe moonfire? its not really hard

[frosty mango]

Is moonfire not a thing anymore

[lusty grotto]

dont play red moon

[torn gulch]

Not enough

[frosty mango]

Bc guardian is dumb easy to gather on, it’s like the easiest tank to gather on

[lusty grotto]

have your druid geared...

🤷‍♂️

big weapon makes a difference

[torn gulch]

I had dps just destroy my aggro instantly every key because they were attacking before I did my first raze

[harsh trellis]

I want a larger bear form

also the pangolin looks meh

[torn gulch]

And moonfire+thrash is not enough

[lusty grotto]

theres a lot more problems in what youre describing than just class problems

if at all class problems

[torn gulch]

In pugs dps don't wait what am I supposed to do

[frosty mango]

The problem is you

You’re starting at failure instead of asking yourself what within your control can support the solution - when you come at a problem that way you’re gonna end up in the same place no matter what class you play

[torn gulch]

Then why I don't have this problem on prot warrior and I have it on guardian druid

[frosty mango]

Couldn’t tell you

But what I can tell you is lots of people play Druid and don’t have that problem

[torn gulch]

For lots of people that play druid and don't have that problem there are multiple full threads on wow forums of people that have that problem

And it's guardian only

[solid sun]

Usually with bear I don’t see an aggro problem unless dying immediately and then the group wiping counts

[harsh trellis]

Dreamgrove could probably help you out

[frosty mango]

So while the specific cause may not be in your control, you can find a solution but not if you just reduce the situation to “well what can I do”

But if we want to get to the real issue it’s probably because @undone beacon decided Druids weren’t the play

[solid sun]

Pash isn’t a goblin either

It’s crazy how different they are now

[urban bane]

while working on time trials for mdi yesterday squish was saying he hastimes where he cant gen the aggro needed for bigger/more complicated pulls too so

seems like a more common problem with bear rn than others

[lusty grotto]

sure but thats a whole different level than the rest of us will see

[torn gulch]

it's ok i am just imagining things
there is literally ample evidence that only guardian has this problem this patch after the multiple targeted nerfs

[frosty mango]

Im not saying that it doesn’t need help

[torn gulch]

it needed either a damage redistribution or a threat multiplier modification on thrash

[frosty mango]

I’m saying your attitude towards it is reductive and isn’t going to help you solve the issue - and that there are a billion people playing guardian at what is probably your level that don’t have this issue or have found ways to combat it

[torn gulch]

oh i solved the issue imediately
by shelving it until next patch

[frosty mango]

Hey, that’s a solution

[solid sun]

Am I reductive

[torn gulch]

I am debating playing brew as an alt to my prot warrior

[loud rune]

i had 0 ignore pain casts in hc crown of cosmos

😎

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/why-huh-1

[loud rune]

somehow my heroic leap was binded to my mouse5 randomly

[lusty grotto]

oh

[loud rune]

and i wondered why i randomly jumped everytime

haahaaha

[urban bane]

but how much rage overcap xdd

[loud rune]

i dumped it on revenge wondering why i got so much rage

[frosty mango]

I don’t know that I’ve ever met a reductive rhinoceros

[solid sun]

We don’t diet much

That’s for sure

[tribal wharf]

there ya go

someone balls of steel go sign up to that

[severe star]

alright see you in 30

[tribal wharf]

yah yah, lmk how that goes lol

[toxic pewter]

what is the most chill healer

[mystic cave]

my mistweaver friend just spinning crane kicks in keys and blasts

[toxic pewter]

hmm thats the 1 healer i havent really tried seriously

perhaps it is time

[forest rune]

is there a list of items i should be trying to mythic roll for first as prot in keys?

[lusty grotto]

run droptimizer and check

if youre looking for defensive options (non-simmable), any myth shield will do and solar core from Skyreach

everything else you sim

[chilly brook]

I suppose it's time to start pushing

[forest rune]

wait is solar core good? it doesnt read good to me

[lusty grotto]

its the best defensive trinket

and you read wrong

[forest rune]

im a warrior what do you expect

[lusty grotto]

partial shield on a 1:30 cd

im also a warrior

🤷‍♂️

[forest rune]

thanks for the help i will have to try out my myth core then i guess

[frosty mango]

Are you running like sub 14s?

Mistweaver is omega braindead if so

[orchid mural]

gah, im drawing a blank. there's keystoneguru for routes, ... but there's another one. can't remember! anyone? (not a fan of that guru site)

[frosty mango]

Gets a lot more tricky though around 15-17 when bosses start hurting

[lusty grotto]

the other site doesnt have routes

its just an MDT on browser

you need your own routes for the most part

threechest.io

otherwise its keystone and raider.io

[orchid mural]

threechest! that's the one. thx nim.

[solid sun]

APB are you ready

[orchid mural]

it has routes if you do like this. but it's a fair bit of browsing to find something that is compatible with your skil level.

Maisara caverns has lots of options

[mystic quartz]

yoo dudes , do you know how can I recreate this WA to new expand now - https://wago.io/Y1PUe9h95

[mystic quartz]

its just shield block tracker

[lusty grotto]

turn on the in-game CDM

[stiff inlet]

happy with that after we bricked the 16 lol

[lusty grotto]

and then just tweak the settings of it

[undone beacon]

Do I do 5 vault keys or 1 vault key tonight

Hmmmge

[tribal wharf]

2500

[stiff inlet]

grats!

[mystic cave]

What did we land on last night about where to use the bonus rolls, I said I was gonna make a note and then drank and went to bed instead

[lusty grotto]

just run droptimizer and go from there

unless its defensive options, and then you target shields/solar core

[mystic cave]

Its all the same upgrade amounts across the dungeons, but i think i remember something about the NPX shield being better than MT and I had it wrong

[lusty grotto]

NPX shield is better technically

but any myth shield is good

[mystic cave]

for sure, ty ty