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ionic fern
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The damage gain from Execute is also VERY minimal if properly done.

tribal wharf
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blizzard issue not me

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they can change it, not us

solar laurel
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okay, so with no deep wounds, i dont press execute at all and just straight up favor revenge, or is this just in ae scenarios?

dawn lintel
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Gloves and rings

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i mean, at least i'm not a dps right

daring marlin
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Tank privilege

dawn lintel
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271 rn

drowsy comet
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Im shocked you didnt start with "Sir" KEKW

daring marlin
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I can't believe I took the bait

tribal wharf
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its a riff on this video

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sort of like "i love bricking keys with brown dot" which is clearly a riff on minecraft with gadet "brown bricks with my crap"

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the joke or whatever, the whole meta of it

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is im just some idiot, trying to play prot warrior in wow

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and im bad at it

inland garnet
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Hey, what's catch with not wanting the Blood dominion + embellishment over Hunt?

inland garnet
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but the stat difference is huge and all of the stats / even lowest are quite close in value?

drowsy comet
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i just checked my pwar, I run Bersekers Rage on weapon

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not that im saying complete nonsense now

inland garnet
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I am talking about the Hunt (or Blood) embellishment + trinket not weapon enchants

pastel geyser
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Blood dominion is kinda shit no?

drowsy comet
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oh i misunderstood everything, god..

inland garnet
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Blood trinket gives 444 of lowest secondary (+ bonus if someone dies), Hunt gives 168 of highest

jagged pier
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right but your sacrficing a trinket slot

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so something u dont really want much more of

inland garnet
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if you pair with the embelishment (the difference seems to be 30% not 200%) wouldn't be worth it?

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especially if no access to mythic raid trinkets, so poor man's choice

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better than hunt

jagged pier
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but the hc verisions of the raid trinkets which are puggable are better

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than like everything in myth anyway

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if u really want to know the answer just sim

inland garnet
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I see

daring marlin
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Sucks that all the dungeon trinkets are pretty trash

dawn lintel
daring marlin
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It's like puzzlebox>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything

dawn lintel
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maybe i'm just complaining for the sake of complaining

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me irl when it takes 10 seconds more to join a group

tribal wharf
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so we get hit unblocked 🙁

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which like i get it, but that logic travels backwards for me

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then again, i cant get anything different, got mints trinket and ooze

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and i think for most part, i would want defensive trinkets anyways, or at the least, ones that go off automatically

daring marlin
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sounds like a huge skill issue

tribal wharf
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i just kinda view it as trolling advice take the thing that can leave you vulnerable

stiff inlet
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I accept real advice lol. I have been playing warrior for 2 weeks lol ty!

tribal wharf
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when you cant really afford to do that without being great at game

toxic pewter
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i should get a puzzlebox

tribal wharf
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i'd probably use it if i had it, but like, ya

stiff inlet
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Seems the issue, ty!

tribal wharf
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once again

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poor design i think

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or well in this nice, of ta nks

stiff inlet
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How dangerous is puzzlebox mid pull? I saw a druid doing it when I was healing

jagged pier
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druid dont care

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we do

stiff inlet
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Thats what I assumed

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Which is why its in my bag currently lol

toxic pewter
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druids litterally do 360s and shit midpack

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not a care in the world

stiff inlet
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🤣 its so true

toxic pewter
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meanwhile we turn around for a split second and hurt bad

tribal wharf
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see i know yogi is a bear

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which means a druid

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but then i'd be a furry

toxic pewter
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lol

tribal wharf
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and thats just unacceptable

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theres certain lines you dont cross

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thats one for me

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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so its never happening for a million trillion years lol

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i never had interested in playing druid in 2004

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still dont

drowsy comet
stiff inlet
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changed a few stats and some buttons do we just yolo into a 14 or a practice run lol

toxic pewter
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yea stats dont really matter all that much

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i mean to say stat distribution.. all are pretty good for us.. I guess if you really are intent on playing itf you want ur big haste

fallow fern
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Is there a way to set an audio alert when you are at 70 rage? I am sometimes bad at watching my rage bar.. especially when im playing on my small laptop screen..

outer willow
tribal wharf
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source im not making it the fuck up

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i tried this in shadowlands and it just, it didnt wokr

mystic crag
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i think u can set ur resource bar to change colour

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depends if an addon thats good enough exists

tribal wharf
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BAM!

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real ones will know

ornate palm
mystic crag
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ye arcui def can change colour based on rage threshold

fallow fern
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Does arcui change everything.. similar to elvui? Not sure i want to stray that far off the path again lol

stone tundra
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Only cdm stuff

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Nothing else

fallow fern
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You mean it only changes the cdm ? 🤔

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Also, does the time you hit IP change when using overwhelming rage.. like it is 70% instead of 70 rage? Or still just 70 rage?

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Im working on trying to not hit IP too often..

drowsy comet
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Would you guys craft an neck or wait till a good one drops?

dusky canopy
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Well I got news for ya

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You’ll be hitting it very often

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Any point in time you are over 70 rage hit ignore pain

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70 is just a ball park to help you not overcap rage and also not rage starve

drowsy comet
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hm nah imma craft a cape

dusky canopy
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I’d only craft cloak/wrists at this point in the season

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Unless someone’s playing an alt or something

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I guess it also depends on whether or not a person is a mythic raider

toxic pewter
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how these new bonus roll things work next week

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can i get myth alnseer next week

ionic fern
toxic pewter
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Ok sweet I believe i will kill him

ionic fern
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Every boss/dungeon has its loottable.
The bonus roll will grant you a item from that bosses loot table.

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RNG one.

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And then it removes it from that bosses loottable for you.

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SO next time you roll on the same boss, you have a higher chance of getting the item you want if you diddnt get it the first time around.

toxic pewter
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gotcha

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do you know does it include tier item thing that turns into tier piece

gentle acorn
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hopefully it doesn't

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that would make it much more troll

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since we effectively have unlimited catalyst charges at the moment

toxic pewter
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yeah i hope not cuz i have myth chest already chim drops that token

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but i technically got my myth chest from using dawnlight manaflux

daring marlin
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unless you spec prot I guess lmfao

drowsy comet
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is it possible to craft a mythic item only with the mythic crests or do you also need hero crafts?

toxic pewter
drowsy comet
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my ass is out of hero crests and capped smh

toxic pewter
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but then again I am a cursed individual and have done dumber things

severe star
drowsy comet
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okay good to know, thanks

undone beacon
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Prot has three items you can get, so in a maximum of three weeks you’ll have Gaze from rolling

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Or a minimum of one week if you’re lucky

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Priest has 4 items and I would only use two so I’m hoping to just rip a gaze outta vault but

daring marlin
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Man

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I gotta pug mytgic chim

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but I don't wanna 💀

undone beacon
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My guild has him locked down each week now which is great

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We just hit him on hero and myth before heading to voidspire

drowsy comet
daring marlin
undone beacon
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My parse was butts this week on chim because a rogue ran over to the small adds and nuked like three people deadge

daring marlin
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hell no

undone beacon
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I mean at least with rerolls it’s be more worth

tribal wharf
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so peeople speak alot about addons

undone beacon
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Since you only need to hit it a few times to get the gaze

tribal wharf
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and im thinking about boss mods now, and im wondering if most ppl use DBM, BW or LW

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for keys

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i wish there was just, DBM keys and BW/LW keys

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instead of there is like 8 different expansion versions, and i have to turn on DF if i want to run AA

undone beacon
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I don’t use any of those
I use better timelines and my eyes peepo

tribal wharf
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cuz, i personally benefit from "adds incoming"

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VFX

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laser on you,

outer willow
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Timelines and Kurukuru

undone beacon
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I find that I end up ignoring vfx queues most of the time, they just become background noise

outer willow
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Only two dungeons tools needed

undone beacon
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The fuck is a kurukuru

outer willow
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I was hoping you’d ask

undone beacon
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Oh no

outer willow
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Yep

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Too late

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You activated my trap card

undone beacon
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kurukuru dn

tribal wharf
outer willow
tribal wharf
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anime

outer willow
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Do it

tribal wharf
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its anime

outer willow
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Just download it

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I’ll literally give you $2 right now

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If you tank a key with that addon installed

undone beacon
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When I’m home I’ll take a look

outer willow
tribal wharf
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkSeXGJTPw if i was to make the game play something during lust, it would be a song like this one

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toxic pewter
outer willow
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If you go down this road

Go into options, change the song to “Pedro”

I don’t speak Spanish but god damn that song has been the highlight of my entire season.

tribal wharf
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thats a good one too, many good ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6rS8Dv5g-8 anything with a banging bass line really

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high BPM/aggressive/pary type music, probably some VGM would fit

daring marlin
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@undone beacon do mythic chim with me on an alt

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idk when tho

drowsy comet
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Exwindtools is not gonna work with next patch, sadge sadge

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think Blizzard kinda fights against these addons that somehow made it around the API restrictions

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with next patch

round cliff
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ur both bad but damn..

undone beacon
coarse bay
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@solid sun is it time

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Or are you a pirate

tribal wharf
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do what u want cuz a pirate is free, you are a pirate

coarse bay
harsh trellis
outer willow
drowsy comet
dusky canopy
wicked plank
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Do we know the impact of the change for colossus ? (If there s any )

pastel geyser
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Ty for providing footage for the doubters

pastel geyser
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And faster demolish cd

tribal wharf
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after the patch

sweet summit
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Any addon that shows when to spell reflect? Or what can be spell reflected?

coarse bay
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No addon, but there’s a resource in the pins if you would like to read up on reflectable spells

tribal wharf
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i think blizzard should have a casting frame bar thingy for it

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like how when you cannot kick it it is shield and shield around bar and if its not, its just a small yellow bar

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and its if the spell is a player or class can interact with it, it turns, say blue

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so, i know besides reflect, i think its dk, and mages are the most who get that

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was dk, pvp talent now

pastel geyser
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I feel like half the things we are reflecting werent meant to be reflected and its just spaghetti they dont bother fixing

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Cuz it feels so damn random

drowsy comet
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just press some random buttons and pray

tribal wharf
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if they turned it to visual indicator around the cast, i would hit the reflect perfectly

pastel geyser
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Esp on tank busters

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Im still not sure what am i reflecting on lura in sot but sometimes it just happens xd

tribal wharf
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try EVERYTHING cant hurt

pastel geyser
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I mean its good anyway cuz it gives magic dr

toxic pewter
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why am i in a mythic voidspire and dudes doing like 55k dps on vorasius

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that is like week 1 dps

pastel geyser
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Ask him to pay for boost after the kill

coarse bay
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Lot of people on alts that dont do damage

pastel geyser
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Whats even changed on mythic for him

tribal wharf
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it should be easier than ever to deal dmg tho right

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with all the gameplay improvements and tracking

coarse bay
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So it’s the same fight but bigger numbers and u move adds further from boss

pastel geyser
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Isnt it always a damage check?

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Boss wipes at third beam on hc

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Or was it 4th?

coarse bay
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Idk i never saw it in hc, but in mythic most pugs havent had the damage

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It’s tighter

pastel geyser
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Well ofc

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Mythic is all about numbers game

drowsy comet
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ngl now that I think back of the guy telling me to unalive myself, I cant stop to cringe about him. Lil bro definetly was looking 15mins to get a full group, and then it gets ended by an abandon, by him KEKW

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lmfao

pastel geyser
toxic pewter
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lmao

drowsy comet
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omg this shit actually brings joy KEKW

coarse bay
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Is low cortisol an insult

toxic pewter
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lol

pastel geyser
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Shouldnt be

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
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i dont think so

drowsy comet
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its tiktok language

coarse bay
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Im taking it as an insult

coarse bay
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Apb ill defend you

toxic pewter
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LOL

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yeah wait till he gets to really know me

toxic pewter
toxic pewter
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thats wild tho never been called chill before

drowsy comet
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im 100% sure nobody gets it

toxic pewter
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usually i am neurotic mess

coarse bay
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Lmao

pastel geyser
coarse bay
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Did u guys kill it

toxic pewter
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na disband lmao

drowsy comet
pastel geyser
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Im one of the few wow players under 30 yo

toxic pewter
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damn u right lil gup

coarse bay
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Apb wut u doing

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Im ready to game

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
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im just in silvermoon standing around now

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wat u wanna do

coarse bay
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Anything

toxic pewter
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hmmmm

coarse bay
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Wwapbd

drowsy comet
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find something to do or I will curse your next key

toxic pewter
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lmao

pastel geyser
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Go play slay the spire 2 together

toxic pewter
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i did all the raids and crap

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i need lura tho

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midnight falls

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heroic

drowsy comet
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Pug it xan

coarse bay
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Oh i havent ever pulled lura

toxic pewter
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we can do keys

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do som 15s

outer willow
coarse bay
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Sure, im a baby though

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Smol io

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Carry me

drowsy comet
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Apb ur tanking or dps?

toxic pewter
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i gotchu i got a 15 windrunners u want to do it

coarse bay
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Ya coming

toxic pewter
drowsy comet
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i see

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craft one duh

toxic pewter
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lol

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need 4 sparks

drowsy comet
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ur rich anyway

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oh

toxic pewter
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shit takes forevr

drowsy comet
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yea

toxic pewter
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anyone else want do 15 windrunner (NA)

drowsy comet
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I got 4 sparks keks

toxic pewter
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damn nice

drowsy comet
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Im not na

toxic pewter
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u gonna craft anything

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dude come over ill set u up with some gold

drowsy comet
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Yes, a cape

toxic pewter
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get u goin good

drowsy comet
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my ping will be absolutely ass

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If i step foot on the other side

pastel geyser
drowsy comet
pastel geyser
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I got rich too in midnight, its addicting deadge

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Doing it more than playing the game lol

drowsy comet
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Im rich on hateful whispers, get on my level KEKW

vocal owl
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how much haste do i need for it to feel good??

outer willow
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It’s not haste that makes you happy. It’s you.

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Be happy.

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It’ll feel good.

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(1188)

undone beacon
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not for the spire but

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i need some 15'ers still

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Need a skreach, terrace, AA, and Xenas for resil 15

drowsy comet
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think pash needs some 15s

undone beacon
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yar

drowsy comet
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still need to get my first resi key smh

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but im just farming 10s rn

undone beacon
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i've been slackin this season gotta catch up

drowsy comet
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im 263 ilvl tho, im in need of a couple of hero track stuff. Gonna farm Xenas a couple times for these stupid rings

undone beacon
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i was gonna grind xenas for the rings on priest but the crit/mast ring i have on is better than completing set bonus at equal ilvl

daring marlin
undone beacon
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bro you're def ahead of me

daring marlin
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Still slacking

undone beacon
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im still so annoyed that 16 MT went bunk on the last boss, woulda been nice to have that done

daring marlin
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I gotta do gym before keys today

drowsy comet
undone beacon
drowsy comet
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oof

tribal wharf
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i ran pos 10 again and literal only thing went wrong is i let DH grab aggro to a melee dude and he went splat

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didnt register he was being attacked, or i couldnt see the health bar with aggro to atack

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nobody getting carried away by gargoyles or shit loads of machine gun bolts going off not kicked,

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i get stresed out with those gargoyles

fringe mural
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guys i just realized you can kinda cheese your myth crest costs by cross over crafting

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if you want to lets say upgrade a chest you craft a myth chest on your alt and then only take half crests to upgrade the chest to 5/6

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i know you're probably doing this all since you played in tww already

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but i didnt know how the system works yet

undone beacon
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It only does that once you have the achieve for that crest level

daring marlin
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I have no idea what the hell he just said

undone beacon
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Myth of the Dawn

fringe mural
undone beacon
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mmhm

fringe mural
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Thought it was per slot, because it specifically mentions the slot in the tooltip

undone beacon
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Typically for myth its hitting a certain ilvl, prob 285 this season

fringe mural
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It tells you me you can upgrade x on discount, because someone in your warband has a higher itemlvl (then it shows the itemlvl in that slot

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it specifically mentions the slot

daring marlin
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What is this discount

undone beacon
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Blizzard tooltips are notoriously bad

fringe mural
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not just the general itemlvl of the main

tribal wharf
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i dont worry about that stuff at all

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if i can upgrade, i upgrade

fringe mural
daring marlin
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hm

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I don't think I've spent many crests to see that on my dk yet actually

fringe mural
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i'll try if crossover works

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i will craft a myth slot on my alt where my main doesn't have a fully upgraded hero item yet

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and see if i get the discount on my main for upgrading the hero item to 6/6

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but pash is probably right

sharp gale
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I guess it’s the valorstone discount remaining keks

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Bc yes, you had a discount warband with valorstone and the myth track achievement is per slot/warband wide once you get it, like if your average is 285 but 276 boots, you will not get the crest discount on them

fringe mural
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if if is bound to the achievement

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i shouldn't be able to get a discount on upgrading a hero slot where my main has a myth item in right?

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if i don't have hero of dawn yet

toxic pewter
coarse bay
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it's ok pash

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we had tons of fun

toxic pewter
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lmao

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yes.......

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fun......

coarse bay
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did you not?

toxic pewter
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hahaha i did

coarse bay
toxic pewter
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just meant my own mistakes and the raid failure lol

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yah i def did

coarse bay
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heck that raid and the healers we had

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frfr ong

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no cizzy

toxic pewter
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yah the healers lmao

tribal wharf
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dh go splat

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the one i wasnt taunting for

toxic pewter
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o ya he got frostbane slashed

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that gonna hurt

steady pond
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Hey guys last boss from Seat is eating my ass

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The tank buster is when he has 3 portals right?

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the dmg comes right when the third portal spawns?

trail dome
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I asked about that a week ago or so, it's a kind of weird mechanic that like gets caught on spell queueing or something

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But you can reflect it

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I kind of just vibes press reflect ~1s or so after I see it go to 3

steady pond
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thats kinda shitty i barely can see

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everything is purple

trail dome
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huh

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just look at their debuffs

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or uh

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buffs

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it's a buff on the mob

steady pond
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ooooooh

valid sleet
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Weakauras would have made it much easier to see sadge

steady pond
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i did not knew about that

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thaks man

trail dome
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Ah no worries :D

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But now that you know about it

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you'll get annoyed when it sometimes sits at 3 stacks for like

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6-7 seconds

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and you're like ???? do the thing

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cause it absolutely uses it while casting so i think it's some weird spell queueing thing

chilly brook
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Well a new CPU and motherboard later and we’re back (in a new case) up and running

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My old CPU shorted their test mobo lmao

chilly brook
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Some of these are so dope

fringe mural
chilly brook
fringe mural
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aah lol okay that makes way more sense

chilly brook
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My screen way bigger

fringe mural
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makes sense since you probably won't slap a luis c sticker on your mouse and keyboard

chilly brook
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My screen biiiiiiggg

chilly brook
fringe mural
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where da mobs be

coarse bay
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what this man doing in tarkov

chilly brook
fringe mural
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Yeah man this is prot dc

chilly brook
fringe mural
chilly brook
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Lmao

fringe mural
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i wouldn't be able to tank on that man

chilly brook
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It’s easy I promise

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No different from taking on a normal monitor

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You just have more peripheral

daring marlin
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man

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I thought I had the hero of the dawn achieve for discounted crests

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stupid 266 ring left and no hero crests left til next week

dusky canopy
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Griff can see the next dungeon too

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Hollyy

daring marlin
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wait a minute...I could craft something still

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🤔

chilly brook
coarse bay
fringe mural
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this is what it says for me

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it specifies exactly what item it is referring to

tribal wharf
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i'd have to run 4 more keys between now and tomorrow , 10s i mean to get 3rd myth vault slot

chilly brook
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The biggest problem with the monitor is that it’s 5120x1440p so it’s closer to running 4k than it is 1440p so it isn’t the easiest to run 🙁

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It’s like 90% of the pixels of 4k

tribal wharf
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im not sure i want to fry my brain like that again

chilly brook
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Just do the 10s ez

chilly brook
undone beacon
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I use a fractal north with the wood panel front thing and its great

fringe mural
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so it seems to be bound to the achievement pash just like you said

undone beacon
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Fractal North, it’s a nice case

chilly brook
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I wanted to do a Fractal Terra but my GPU too big and I’m not buying new one just to fit it in an expensive case

fringe mural
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my main has a 3/6 and a 6/6 hero ring

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and my alt couldn't upgrade a 2/6 hero ring with discount

undone beacon
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Yee. I am a knower of things sometimes peepo

fringe mural
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to 3/6

fringe mural
undone beacon
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Yee

fringe mural
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or did they send you to tell me

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since you are their emissary

undone beacon
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Their intense scrying revealed you would be seeking crest related knowledge

fringe mural
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it is known

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he who will seek the knowledge of ze crests will speak unto thee , and thou shalt grant him thy wisdom

drowsy comet
chilly brook
drowsy comet
#

mhm monkahmm

drowsy comet
drowsy comet
#

thats a really clean monitor

fringe mural
drowsy comet
chilly brook
#

The 2nd monitor and wall mount were had for like $130 total

drowsy comet
#

nice deal tbh

paper stone
#

is there some way how the hell do I stop hating pressing Ignore Pain when going to rage cap ? I am ALWAYS having the issue of just hating this process
Can I macro is somewhere ? 😄

jagged pier
#

play colossus

#

u dont send it as much

tribal wharf
#

i'd like to attempt seat 10, or spire again

#

i suck at spires

#

caverns is too hard for me lol

slim crag
#

With our rotation, should we be actively trying to use phalanx when possible, or if shield slam refreshes and available, just spam that?

#

I've been trying to alternate shield slam and thunder clap as often as possible for phalanx, but wonder if I should just be spamming shield slam asap

warm plinth
#

You should be pressing shield slam whenever available

chilly brook
chilly brook
#

Big CDs>shield slam>TC>revenj

narrow jay
#

overwhelming rage is useless in keys right?

jagged pier
#

useless across all content

pallid quiver
narrow jay
#

thanks ❤️

warm plinth
#

1066?

pallid quiver
#

yes

warm plinth
#

What year do you think it is luerce

pallid quiver
#

It's 1057, why you ask?

warm plinth
#

No reason

candid lark
#

Hey everyone, I'm certain this has been asked and answered, but I cant find it in the channel. What is the consensus behind the Colossus 12.0.5 changes - do you think Thane will still be the go to ?

jagged pier
#

they are equal

#

~500 dps difference

candid lark
#

In terms of survivability?

jagged pier
#

about the same too

candid lark
#

Awesome, thank you

daring marlin
#

I love the pain

#

Because the pain is the truth

chilly brook
jagged pier
#

Dont matter ither way, there already is a high keyer play col right now shruge

#

Is a chinese warrior so u know take that with what u will cause they do their own thing

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But its really not that bad, it jist as usual is rubbish at gathering compared to thane verything else its fine/the same

jagged pier
#

Someone mentioned it the other day

chilly brook
jagged pier
#

As always theres site only take what ppl ar elogged out as

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As i said someone mentioned it the other day

hardy snow
#

I was once recorded as making ce in pvp gear cause I did some BG right after

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and logged out in pvp gear

tribal wharf
#

no itx fcr me

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fuck that

#

you start to run into all sorts of space issues

#

less effecient heating

#

mATX is good inbetween, atx/eatx is just really beefy never moves ever

chilly brook
warm plinth
chilly brook
warm plinth
#

Obviously; you'd be my trophy husband

stiff inlet
#

pumped about this one! lol

warm plinth
#

I'm proud of you

stiff inlet
#

Never tanked before its fun learning you guys/faq/guides have been super helpful i appreciate it

warm plinth
#

deswind you love to see it

sweet pasture
#

question for the group, I am moving from Fury to Prot for the guild and wondering a bit about crafting. I already crafted my fury stuff, but was wondering if recrafting my bracers and a weapon would be the way to go? I am full tier and more or less everything I need outside of some lu'ra drops

warm plinth
#

Well, weapon is a no brainer. What reason would you be recrafting your bracers?

valid sleet
#

Question about the specifics of Demo Shout. If I have it applied to an enemy and that enemy puts a dot on me, is the dot damage reduced? What about a spell cast? Or just autos and tank busters?

sweet pasture
warm plinth
warm plinth
sweet pasture
warm plinth
#

We use arcano on bracer/cloak in the long run

tribal wharf
#

plz note if you are going off the stats i posted its like, a secondary set for me

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and im not that good at the game lol

warm plinth
#

You would want weapon just because aside from shield, it's the most important slot to have high ilevel on

sweet pasture
# warm plinth You would want weapon just because aside from shield, it's the most important sl...

yeah figured as much and got the hammer fully leveled in hero right now but just long run didn tknow if I should be focusing crafting specifically so I know what other pieces to try and target farm virtually.

I know I need a new shield but less worried about that drop honestly and didn't know if I should reuse what I already spent sparks on or to try and focus something with what sparks I have left so far

tribal wharf
#

i was thinking about crafting haste mastery cloak since i dunno if i will get one of those

warm plinth
#

Yeah, in the short term you can put the embellishments on any slot; it doesn't really matter.

desert brook
#

bout to do my first 16 npx, that left side is rough. should i put a pt into fight through the flames for reduced magic damage?

warm plinth
#

No

daring marlin
#

@undone beacon TANK A RAT 10 AA FOR MY WARLOCK

warm plinth
#

gottem

undone beacon
#

hmmmge alright give me a few mins

#

I gotta get clothed again I was being a lazy bum in bed

daring marlin
#

boxermaxxing for me

warm plinth
#

get rekt nerd

undone beacon
#

@daring marlin y'aint even online

warm plinth
#

smh

undone beacon
#

shhh

#

I got a heal and 2 dps that wanna go

#

So if we get this RAT WARLOCK online we can do that

pallid quiver
#

can i come on my level 83 war?

daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

In seat for boss 2 trash, one of them knocks back and is annoying to deal with, nothing I can do?

#

I'm thinking that could happen and then try to reposition and get hit and wipe us

#

The ones right before 3 is hard but more of kick and pull out way

pastel summit
#

u can get knocked into a wall behind u and not move

#

cos the charge form the champs

tribal wharf
#

Pretty confident about run it on 10 but not did it

pastel summit
#

owns

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alternatively dont pull them

#

aside from the one near the uh last portal

#

can charge/leap somethin to avoid gettin knocked out of charge range

tribal wharf
#

I can't promise skyhold all 15s on time but I think I can for 10s

#

Exception of skyreach, I dunno how that will go, avoiding it tbh

pastel summit
#

whatchu havin issues with in skyreach

#

if its dyin to birbs just gota micro kite the bleed off from the adepts

#

also slam is kill

#

i miss it

stiff inlet
#

silly question, theres no way for me to drop chains as pwar in seat right

shut summit
#

zerker rage

undone beacon
#

Man this warlock I just did a 10 AA with was CRACKED

daring marlin
#

yuge 260 warlock

undone beacon
#

You put the hurt on the sham though

#

Which makes me a little sadgers

daring marlin
#

rough pugging on my lock man

undone beacon
#

That was my GM sadgers

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

touché

daring marlin
#

@lusty grotto RAT KEYS WHEN

#

LOCK NEEDS MORE

glacial stratus
#

what is tankier, full apex talent or 1 point apex talent?

lusty grotto
#

4/4

#

because of 5% dr

#

unless youre a rank 1 player that is willing to just try things out for the sake of seeing how they feel, stick to the icy-veins guide

#

and the builds there which are the same as the recommended ones in #protection-faq

marble sundial
#

what happened to wow head

lusty grotto
#

nome retired

marble sundial
#

i feel like when i played s1 tww, wow head was gooded

#

goated

lusty grotto
#

so we're not maintaining it right now

marble sundial
#

and now everyone is saying icy veins

#

oh i c

lusty grotto
#

yes icy-veins is maintained by mwahi

marble sundial
#

i hope his retirement is fruitful and he gets an island

glacial stratus
#

from what im saying seeing you have to drop a bunch of notes that also give tankyness so im surrpsied that apex ends up being tankier

lusty grotto
#

you can drop shit and still be 4/4

glacial stratus
#

e.g. i see people drop last stand which to me seems crazy

undone beacon
#

The things people take when they give up apex tend to be very niche

lusty grotto
#

but going 1/4 you lose 12k dps and 5% dr over a 4/4 build with the same talents

undone beacon
#

Last stand encourages poor play for most people

glacial stratus
#

but let me check out wha tu sent

lusty grotto
#

last stand is not that good

#

it has never been that good (except maybe in vanilla/tbc)

undone beacon
#

Shield wall should be a proactive DR, not a reactive heal

lusty grotto
#

its def better now that its tied to wall, but still not huge

undone beacon
#

Using shield wall for last stand healing encourages you to use shield wall after you’ve taken damage, which is a bad habit

lusty grotto
undone beacon
#

I liked the 5 minutes on beta where it was a class tree passive that didn’t work right with BSV

lusty grotto
#

and bolster was still there

vivid orchid
#

I've definitely pressed the empty keybind that was last stand

undone beacon
#

Also Nim is there a more efficient way to sim talent tweaks or do you have to just manually set each build

#

I wanna run some stuff on my priest but swapping point by point is tedious

lusty grotto
#

manually setting builds

pastel summit
#

last stand rework best thing ever

lusty grotto
#

its better

#

but not the best thing ever

#

its still EHP

#

we are not an EHP tank

#

pash is 100% correct

pastel summit
#

luv the heal bypassing damp

lusty grotto
#

🤷‍♂️

undone beacon
#

PvP mechanic mentioned

lusty grotto
#

i dont talent it nor plan to until maybe 19s

undone beacon
#

Deploy tactical revenj

pastel summit
#

pvp class

#

gotta pvp in some capacity

#

also is it tough as nails causing the shield breakages

#

feel like i never lost 70% durability before in a deathless key

glacial stratus
#

is indominatable not good?

#

and isnt not playing cheat in m+ just kinda a crack head move?

lusty grotto
#

its better than the TWW version, but not as good as the DF version

#

and we can play cheat easily by swapping bloodborne or EA to it

glacial stratus
#

for context im new to tanking and the game (started with midnight), so running around + 15

pastel summit
#

ya double crackhead then

undone beacon
#

Indom is not that good. Mostly going to be overhealing and it doesn’t work fast enough to safe you when you’d need it

lusty grotto
#

if youre new

undone beacon
#

BSV is good, worth picking up if you feel worried

glacial stratus
#

what is bsv?

pastel summit
#

cheat

#

proc

lusty grotto
#

the "cheat"

#

Battle Scarred Veteran

glacial stratus
glacial stratus
lusty grotto
glacial stratus
#

ye thats what im looking at

lusty grotto
#

yup

pastel summit
#

ya certified icyveins build

#

why would you ever want a 80% wall for 8 when u dip low

#

LMFAO

lusty grotto
#

if you need BSV (cheat) you can swap Enduring Alacrity (EA) or Bloodborne for it

glacial stratus
#

also what about bloodsurge?

vivid orchid
#

Most m+ seasons this would be fine and could not use bsv for quite a while. This season though I've found tank dam is cranked and have been using it far sooner than usual

lusty grotto
coarse bay
glacial stratus
#

is it bad? free rage no?

lusty grotto
#

instigate is enough rage gen

glacial stratus
#

but i see a lot of people drop it

coarse bay
lusty grotto
glacial stratus
#

more ignore pain xD

lusty grotto
#

do you know how to use iP?

vivid orchid
#

Most people just waste the rage

lusty grotto
glacial stratus
lusty grotto
#

read what i linked

glacial stratus
#

ah ok

#

so im only pressing it very little then ig

#

do i use revenge when i feel like it? cause i see a lot of people use it a lot but its just dmg realistically

lusty grotto
#

are you thane

glacial stratus
#

yes

lusty grotto
#

you use it when both SS and TC are on cd

vivid orchid
#

It's for resets yep

lusty grotto
#

thats about it

#

SS being Shield Slam, TC being Thunder clap

glacial stratus
#

ok

lusty grotto
#

TB (thunder blast) > SS > TC > Revenge/Execute (only if the others are on cd and Execute only in pure Single Target) is your priority as thane

glacial stratus
#

ok thats mostly what im doing

quick flame
#

So what's the chance of Colossus meta again

#

Cause the buffs looks awesome

coarse bay
#

there is a chance

loud rune
#

which food is dat

#

i tried to find it without success

#

at least not with 50 primary

toxic pewter
#

That’s a feast food buff

#

Harandar celebration or I think quel dorei medley if I recall correctly

lusty grotto
#

all feasts have stam

#

non feast do not have stam

loud rune
#

that one he had placed gives u somehow the well fed buff without disappearing after death

toxic pewter
#

Yeah if you turn ten of those into a hearty feast it lasts through death

loud rune
#

or do u need something skilled/learned for that?

#

oh

toxic pewter
#

It’s called hearty feast

lusty grotto
#

hearty

toxic pewter
#

And hearty well fed buff

lusty grotto
#

yeah

#

the only food buffs that last through death are hearty

quiet minnow
#

is the prot guide on wowhead decent? in the past i know some were written by archimetros (still are maybe? )

frosty mango
#

Icy veins for prot now

tribal wharf
crisp ocean
tribal wharf
#

warlock goes im lagging

#

then he dc

tribal wharf
#

then he gets booted from the group

#

still time

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

ive linked you the IP usage so many times

#

im pretty damn sure

crisp ocean
lusty grotto
#

yes...

crisp ocean
#

yeah

lusty grotto
#

whats rage capped...

frosty mango
#

Then you should not be rage capped?

lusty grotto
#

is it over 70?

#

because if youre rage capped youre OVER 70

crisp ocean
#

its full stacked and im rage capped

ocean heath
#

so is there actual prot warrior tech to make the bleeds drop off in first pull Alg or is it limited to brew like I saw in a video?

lusty grotto
#

it does not matter if its full stacked

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

the ip usage thing goes over it

#

you still use it

crisp ocean
#

ohh okay ty

lusty grotto
crisp ocean
#

+1ed a +2 :((

quiet minnow
#

in years past i just put a gigantic weakaura in the center of my screen when >70 rage

lusty grotto
#

its a cast

#

you just dwarf

quiet minnow
#

works for me

ocean heath
frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

and hope your team is prio'ing lashers

lusty grotto
ocean heath
#

maybe intercept?

lusty grotto
#

its not really what you should do

#

shit wont die

#

will last forever

frosty mango
#

The cast has no application range but it does have a use range of 25 yards so you can leap to 25 and immediately charge back, the pack doesn’t move and you drop your stack

tribal wharf
#

part of the problem is group stun makes monsters sync up casts

lusty grotto
#

thats not part of the problem at all

tribal wharf
#

so then you got 4 bolts going out instead of 2 or 3

ocean heath
#

lashers can't be stunned i believe

lusty grotto
#

since lashers cannot be stunned

frosty mango
#

I usually shockwave > leap > wait 1s > charge back

#

Keeps things mostly grouped and the lashers don’t move far enough in 2 seconds to matter

ocean heath
#

apparently lashers purposely won't sync up

frosty mango
#

The alternative is you die, which is really gonna scuff your groups dps

tribal wharf
#

the trash or the boss for tree boss aa

#

that sounds like what your talking about

frosty mango
#

The trash

#

The boss is trivial

lusty grotto
#

or... be dwarf, and run with an aug

#

ezmode pull

frosty mango
tribal wharf
#

well im say a topicx i assume video

ocean heath
#

hmm I have to see if i can go in normal or something to practive

frosty mango
#

Also bop clears too

tribal wharf
#

mentionined something about stun

lusty grotto
#

yup cancelaura bop is bis

#

since vanilla

frosty mango
#

I have cancelaura bop on both tclap and shield slam

lusty grotto
#

on every single skill of mine

#

yeah and on revenge

tribal wharf
#

my sourced isnt totally i made it up

ocean heath
#

comments:

frosty mango
#

I’ve done the leap/charge thing this entire season and it has never been a problem

#

Even with doodoo tier healer

lusty grotto
#

its a problem for brews

#

and other tanks

#

syncing melees do nothing

#

we're prot warriors we just block that shit, it does jack shit

#

so stop going over it, its not a problem like i mentioned

tribal wharf
#

so im right about the desync part but not the stun i think it is

frosty mango
#

Can usually get some yahtzees if you time the shockwave right

#

I’m a big shockwave enjoyer

ocean heath
#

people don't shockwave?

frosty mango
#

Probably more accurate to say people don’t use shockwave in combination with the rest of the kit to maximize its value

heavy sparrow
frosty mango
#

For example

As colossus, shockwave had a knock up which could be used to stop mobs from knock back effects, like last exp in the mine cart dungeon

Or in algethar the triple pull before vexamus, you can time your shockwave so that you know every mob will be casting when it wears off then catch all the interrupts with disrupting shout

lusty grotto
#

i honestly run piercing for AA

#

it helps a fuckton on that first pull and on battleaxes

frosty mango
#

With the changes to AA the only real danger is crawth on high keys honestly I think that key is free af

warm plinth
#

Shockwave into disrupting

ocean heath
#

wats the strat for last boss AA? just go around the room?

lusty grotto
#

sure

#

and make sure you reflect

frosty mango
ocean heath
#

then there goes the timer

heavy sparrow
#

Don't forget 35k-43k single target

frosty mango
#

The entire fight can be made a billion times easier by running to the corner of the side you’re on and then popping a defensive and getting hit by an orb while you’re at 2 stacks to control where the puddle goes

#

The boss even literally says “go to the corner”

#

When you get 3 stacks

#

Most dps stand in very bad places (read - in a clear zone) and drop puddles all over the place

quiet minnow
#

so weakauras is done? is there anything that can do stuff like show a bar when >70 rage now ?

#

this is not ideal 🙁

lusty grotto
#

there are cdm addons that do it

#

but

#

use eyes like the rest of us is probably the best

quiet minnow
#

man im tryin to be augmented but if i must rely on my senses then so be it

lusty grotto
#

idk what you were using but

#

just have a big ole rage bar

#

which most cdm addons can do

quiet minnow
#

yeah a big rage bar would be nice. i have default nameplates right now. im not familiar with the term cdm i have not played since midnight

#

i mean

#

dragonflight lmao

lusty grotto
#

cooldown manager

quiet minnow
#

ok

#

ty. any recommendation ?

frosty mango
#

Alert based on how much rage you have yes?

quiet minnow
#

yeah more or less. i used to just pop up a big IP block center screen when > 70 rage

frosty mango
#

It’s kinda heavy for just that function, like Nim said I think most of us just have a giant ass rage bar

quiet minnow
#

but anything will do. even a big rage bar

#

yeah i'll just do that

#

which cdm addon do ppl generally use? i see this cooldownmanagercentered but am not familiar with these

frosty mango
#

I made a rage bar that is a circle around my character with a static spark at 70 to better centralize rage visibility but ended up binning it bc the bar was good enough

lusty grotto
daring marlin
#

damn

#

about to time a 17AA but we bricked it at the end

#

nooooooooooo

undone beacon
#

Shoulda invited me

daring marlin
#

just barely, tried a cheeky pull

undone beacon
#

Woulda timed it easy

daring marlin
#

fun times

undone beacon
#

Not a warrior in sight

daring marlin
#

those four queue'd together lol

#

imma do a 10MC on my lock

undone beacon
#

I need to pug a few 15s, knock out resil 15 tn

daring marlin
#

go get 'em

#

make that nimchip guy tank

frosty mango
quiet matrix
#

Algethar 15 is my stop for resil 🥲

#

I hate that dungeon

daring marlin
#

I think destro would be so fun on everything but the last boss in that dungeon

#

first mega pack is awesome

left shard
#

There’s actually a stun leap charge tech to drop stacks on AA first pull?

quiet matrix
#

Dps goes brrr while I scream for my life

frosty mango
#

Trying to pug a 15-16 at 9am est is pure pain

daring marlin
#

I tried the other day and was like ?

left shard
quiet matrix
#

I refuse to go dwarf

daring marlin
quiet matrix
#

Hence the suffering

daring marlin
#

being a dwarf would help immensely

quiet matrix
frosty mango
hoary oriole
#

any tips to the trash pack after the first boss of skyreach? ive bricked like 3 keys on that pull tonight and i can't really figure out why its so difficult

lusty grotto
#

rinse and repeat

quiet matrix
#

Hmm will I loose agro in AA first pull if I use Void Elf teleport? Makes no sense to loose it right monkahmm

frosty mango
left shard
#

I understand, thank you!

frosty mango
#

Easier just to go dwarf tho

undone beacon
#

Number go up

frosty mango
#

I don’t really have playtime in the evening so I usually run a key in the morning

#

And the player pool at that time is…..not great

undone beacon
#

Yeah that’s fair. Sometimes I try to run when I have downtime at work and it’s always rough

frosty mango
#

I had a 14 seat where I had 110 stops

#

The next closest person had 6

undone beacon
#

oof

#

At least its fast getting in as tank

frosty mango
#

We abandoned after second boss when I realized being top dps as tank wasn’t gonna cut it for timing

#

I miss my 8pm keys

undone beacon
#

just had a skyreach 15 brick asap when the shaman nor the hunter wanted to lust first pull

#

that was neat

tribal wharf
#

did you ask them to before key

#

whsn its my key more, and at or above 10 i will give run down of plan, and pull timer

quiet matrix
#

My peak for the day was a Windrunner +15 where I had a dps who had 3 interrupts for the whole run

undone beacon
lusty grotto
undone beacon
#

yeah i was gonna say, crazy behavior to have to specify when to lust in a 15

lusty grotto
#

if people dont know, they're not supposed to be doing 15s

tribal wharf
#

a 15 isnt baby content though

#

not by long shot

undone beacon
#

Thats the point

lusty grotto
#

precisely why they are supposed to know

undone beacon
#

People doing 15s should know to lust the first pull

blazing river
#

So after 16s prot warriors just stop getting invites?

undone beacon
#

yeah kinda

#

war of attrition baby

#

and/or list your own key hell

tribal wharf
#

mistakes bound to happen

#

bricking keys is the most amount of fun you can have while playing world of warcaft

woven radish
#

16's were slow invites and 17's non existent

#

Don't mind running my own key, but it's nice to fish for specific dungeons if mine keeps rolling the same 4 over and over

daring marlin
#

He has all 17s but one

undone beacon
#

I've been sitting here for almost 30 minutes trying to START a skyreach

#

this game fucking sucks lol

toxic pewter
#

yah trying to do xenas right now

#

but ngl they wait for brewmasters a lot of the time

daring marlin
#

Bro been putting in THE TIME

undone beacon
#

I now remember why i didnt bother to push in previous seasons because this is miserable lol

undone beacon
#

I need a 15 SR yeah

#

I need an AA, SR, and nexus on 15+

toxic pewter
#

i got 16 seat resilient we can all do it

undone beacon
#

this group is holding out for an rdruid

#

i dont need seat or spire but the rest big yes

toxic pewter
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nice

undone beacon
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i have this sinking feeling we're not even timing this key

cold pilot
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I have a thing for trinkets apparently

undone beacon
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Not only did we brick the skyreach, the game is bugged and we're stuck dead and cant release

cold pilot
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close the game and reopen

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on the second boss?

undone beacon
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First boss

cold pilot
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yeah i think closing the game and reopening fixes it.. I had an issue in skyreach where one of the mobs on the last platform in the dungeon evade bugged but he would still attack, we just couldnt fight back and he would focus the healer

undone beacon
green pilot
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How do you do the first pull in AA

mystic cave
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Kite out the bleed after it starts to get to much after gathering

trim bay
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Wait for the first set of 4 skitters to patrol by. Run down the middle (LHS) of the tree boss. Heroic throw the lasher on the left, the second lasher the patrolling skitter back on the far side then I charge into the final lasher on the RHS. Move back to the centre near boss and AOE taunt. Form there you need to watch your stacks. I racial then off at 4, evoker drops them off at 4 you may need to kite depending on how long they live.

I did it on a 17 and it was fine.

stray sonnet
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on the icy veins guide, why does prot craft wrist as next best craft? could u do feet or waist if u wanted to get rid of lower pieces?

lusty grotto
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because embelishments are better in lower stat pools slots

pastel summit
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wrist/cloak lowest budget pieces for embellishments

lusty grotto
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youre expected to fill the rest with myth tracks

stray sonnet
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o ok

pastel summit
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arcanowave on chest same size as bracers

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but chest of same ilev has more stats

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so embs so on smol pieces

opal ledge
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hello guys 🙂

warm plinth
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ello

opal ledge
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what do you guys use in raidbots simulation, dungeon slice? or should i make like 5 patchwork boss fight to check the aoe?

warm plinth
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Patchwerk 1t or Patchwerk 5t

proud coyote
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What ilvl should I be before I try and tank 10s?

toxic pewter
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what ilvl are you now

opal ledge