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fiery spindle
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🪗

lusty grotto
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dw it happens to me as well lmao

fiery spindle
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I cannot lie to you guys

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I am going to go insane if I don't get an m+ shield soon

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I still have a 237 blue one

dusty orchid
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dropping heavy repercussions doesn't let you get the 35% execute though 🤔

fiery spindle
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and i've tanked 12s and 11s and 10s with it

lusty grotto
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just craft it

dusty orchid
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^

dusky canopy
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Shit I’ve been made

fiery spindle
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unironically I might just do that considering I don't have a myth 2h

dusky canopy
nova gorge
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Does anyone know if Ignore Pain interacts with spell reflection at all, and if it reduces the amount you reflect (similar to other DR effects reducing reflfected damage)?

lusty grotto
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sure

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SR is MDR

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DR in general checks damage first

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IP is dead last

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damage comes in -> DR checks it, reduces -> armor reduction -> dodge/parry/block reduction -> full absorbs -> partial absorbs (solar core) -> IP

dusty orchid
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i think he was asking about the outgoing reflect

lusty grotto
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but wait

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yeah

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caught that

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it does not reduce what you reflect

nova gorge
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okay cool, because you aren't actually taking the damage.

lusty grotto
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but just for reference in case that's a question later, when you do take damage (not a reflect or deflect) thats how it acts

nova gorge
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thanks.

warm plinth
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Yeah reflect is always based on the amount the cast was doing to do from the boss. It's essentially damage the boss is doing to itself

dusty orchid
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WHEN DID SPELL REFLECT GO TO A 20 SEC CD?

lofty warren
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How many upgrades to 298 do you get and how

dusty orchid
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coulda sworn it was 25 sec

warm plinth
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Uh... dragonflight I think?

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For prot only

lusty grotto
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also keep in mind, damage reflected also take in consideration any buffs the mobs have (key scaling, judgment on vanguard)

lofty warren
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Just wait until he hears about spell block 🚫

jagged pier
dusty orchid
lusty grotto
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so the reflect hits harder, but not always, it depends on the buff

dusty orchid
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i'm usually fury, so i thought it was 25 for both

nova gorge
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Yeah, looking to cheese Vanguard harder. Turning off defensive stance before the SoTR hit comes in and turning it back on after.

lusty grotto
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let me confirm the vanguard thing

dusty orchid
lofty warren
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Just did heroic chim pug entirely in attack stance okayge

lusty grotto
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nvm it does not increase vanguard's reflect

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@nova gorge

fiery spindle
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reminds me to ask, I imagine if you're not actively tanking something/tanking stuff that doesn't hit hard you just sit in battle stance for damage right

nova gorge
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Judgement definitely increases the amount reflected.

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Unless you're talking about something else?

lusty grotto
coarse bay
fiery spindle
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oh gotcha

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thought 3% crit and crit damage would be bigly

lusty grotto
fiery spindle
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(I thought wrong)

lusty grotto
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do you have a different result?

coarse bay
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I mean i say it isnt a big deal but that’s just my opinion

lofty warren
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Attack stance does more damage than tank stance

nova gorge
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base damage for SoTR is 777,009

lusty grotto
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this is cheesed on heroic

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this is not cheesed

nova gorge
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the average reflect in this encounter was 1.05m

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which is higher than 777,009 base damage

dusky canopy
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wtf you got robbed 1 dps on that reflect

opal ledge
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whattttttt 1 dps loss why

dusky canopy
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That’s some shit

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I’m calling John blizzard right now

lusty grotto
nova gorge
lusty grotto
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yeah i see it

nova gorge
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So my thought process is it's bad to be in defensive stance during the cast, as you are cutting your damage by about a third.

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also, most of those 824,331 hits were with shield wall up

lusty grotto
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nah

dusky canopy
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If you are knowingly reflecting don’t press other DRs unless it’s required to live

lusty grotto
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thats not it

jagged pier
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holy overthinking

dusky canopy
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Not I

lusty grotto
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its just mythic clearly has an added multiplier compared to heroic

nova gorge
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I mean, what else is there to do on the fights? If you already think it's easy then why not do more if you can?

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yeah Mythic is 500% multiplier

lusty grotto
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im not saying dont do it

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im saying that stance has nothing to do with the damage

nova gorge
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heroic is 300% and lower base damage of the SoTR

lusty grotto
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on judgment

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i meant

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not the base damage of sotr

vocal owl
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What is biggest DPs increese wep or shield?

lusty grotto
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there's 0 difference in cheesing and not cheesing in heroic

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in damage

dusky canopy
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Think really hard about that question

nova gorge
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Oh for sure, I'm talking mythic sorry

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Just talking about high level play, and milking the class for every drop of milk.

lusty grotto
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just interesting

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thats bellamy's just in case

nova gorge
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you did reflect more damage with the judgement

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base damage is 441,540

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you had other defensives rolling likely

lusty grotto
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no i did not

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its the same damage

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438,430

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with or without judgment

dusky canopy
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Bruh whatcha reflecting

lusty grotto
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sotr

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i told you to taunt and reflect to parse (but seriously only do it on senn if youre dpsing)

dusky canopy
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No shot am I doing that

lusty grotto
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no balls

dusky canopy
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I fuck it up one time and Larry will shit his pants

lusty grotto
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negative 2 balls

coarse bay
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Do it

dusky canopy
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Lmfao

solid sun
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Do it

lusty grotto
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ima name drop him and tell him that he should let you at the very least reflect senn

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surely that will work

dusky canopy
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Yeah he won’t be heavily annoyed being tagged in warrior discord again whatsoever

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Lmao

lusty grotto
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i aint no bitch!

solid sun
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Do you have paladins on farm

coarse bay
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Surely if we all tag him there wont be any individual to blame

solid sun
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I’ll do it

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I’ll do it right now

coarse bay
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We’ll just say brew said to do it and deleted his message, which is true

nova gorge
coarse bay
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Evidence here

dusty orchid
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i mean - exorcism is average 145k cast on a tank - surely missed reflects are just healer issue, right?

dusky canopy
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@autumn roost These guys want me to taunt reflect sen on vanguards next week..
Are you game?

autumn roost
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Why do you think that you're in next week?

coarse bay
solid sun
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Nice

dusky canopy
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Rohul might have an unexpected power outage

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You never know

undone beacon
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It’s time to shine brew

autumn roost
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Convince the tanks that it won't fuck up their tank rotation and you're good to go

dusky canopy
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I don’t need to shine I just need to redeem that gray log by starting the boss with my CDs

pallid quiver
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just gray parse even harder

dusky canopy
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Oh snap that sounds like permission to me

pallid quiver
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don't race for top 1, race for bot 1

autumn roost
dusky canopy
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I’m already good at that

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
autumn roost
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Honestly if he could just figure out how the fuck the play his class I'd be happy with that

autumn roost
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Now that I have a protection warrior I don't have to play him ever again

lusty grotto
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then you wont need brew for battle shout, hes geared enough

autumn roost
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So things are trending upwards

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
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Bro hasn’t noticed I stayed on first boss the whole fight instead of swapping to adds and got rank 1 boss damage

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Smdh

autumn roost
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Why would I give a shit about that

lusty grotto
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LMAO

loud rune
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Hi

lusty grotto
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brew you getting roasted, ima tell your mom

dusky canopy
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Yeah I’m noober bro it is what it is

autumn roost
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"hey Larias, I jeopardize the team by not swapping to the priority target so that I could stroke my parse" -brew, 2026

dusky canopy
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We one shot the boss

lusty grotto
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no thanks to brew

dusky canopy
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I was all up in that void boss

solid sun
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Maybe all the boss damage was pivotal in not wiping

autumn roost
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He did less boss damage than the tank

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While parsing 100 boss damage

solid sun
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It’s really hard to know for sure. Scholars are still baffled

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Tanks probably didn’t position the boss correctly for proper cleave

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Brew was compensating

dusky canopy
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I miss cloudy

tribal wharf
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DEAR YOGI

tribal wharf
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"Dear Yogi; I just want to let you know that you got to be the stupidest idiot I've ever seen, trying to play as a protection warrior, you are the epitome of scum inside of a pond filled with goldfish with no fins so the fish all sink to the bottom, so I hope you uninstall the game and never tank again and get the fate you deserve, you are the worst thing to happen to World of Warcraft ever. I seriously hope you really do go all in so that the rest of us can watch a live failure of a human being. Good Luck."

solid sun
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Why is he looking at you like that brew

tribal wharf
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YOU ARE THE EPITOME

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of scum inside of pond

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
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yogi going on his self-ltg arc i see

undone beacon
dusky canopy
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I wonder if I ate less shields than Larry on that nights logs

undone beacon
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oh

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Oh my

lusty grotto
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wait a minute!

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LMAO

tribal wharf
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i love bricking keys with brown dot

dusky canopy
dusky canopy
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Whisky cat owning

undone beacon
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That is literally me irl

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Whiskey cat

dusky canopy
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Do you keep the tail in at work?

undone beacon
solid sun
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The tail in what

dusky canopy
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His back pocket

oak ivy
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what do u think

autumn roost
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Have I sufficiently humbled Brew? Can I leave now

dusky canopy
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Jokes on him I’m already humble

solid sun
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Hey larias have you ever thought about replacing brew with an endangered species. I think it’s a tax write off

lusty grotto
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wheres the valeera silence gif

dusky canopy
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I’m already replaced

undone beacon
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We all can now confirm brew is total noober thank you Lari

lusty grotto
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i demand one

dusky canopy
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I’m on the bench for the next 6 months

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I mean weeks

solid sun
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How come you get stocked with gear

dusky canopy
solid sun
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Just to get replaced

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You’re supposed to be our hero

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Bring balance to the force

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And here you are doing less boss damage than the tanks

hallow berry
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Hello all im new here

pallid quiver
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nuh-uh

harsh trellis
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No green leaf

undone beacon
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Welcome to the party

pallid quiver
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i can't see green leafs on mobile

undone beacon
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There’s no sprout icons on mobile

lusty grotto
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well well well

pallid quiver
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i cannot tell if that's fake news or not

harsh trellis
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Nope legit new to skyhold

pallid quiver
undone beacon
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I was gonna say, don’t call me a bot sadgers

dusky canopy
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Just scare em off before the question

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Crazzzyy

hallow berry
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thank you

harsh trellis
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We refrain from shitposting hold on

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Best behavior

pallid quiver
harsh trellis
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No you're supposed to use ip at 70% rage

pallid quiver
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below that is just hitting people with sticks

harsh trellis
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Shit too soon the question wasn't asked

hallow berry
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i was wondering I am haveing a little bit of trouble nailing down my rotation on my prot warrior

undone beacon
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If you have logs, we’d be happy to take a look

hallow berry
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well thats just it i have really only ever been dps

lusty grotto
undone beacon
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Take some time to read the Icy Veins guide for Prot Warrior

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It’s a great resource for learning the spec

lusty grotto
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☝️

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☝️

lusty grotto
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is it weird that im super annoyed by jakb doing his walking thing when streaming, but at the same time i just gotta respect it?

undone beacon
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I have no idea what that means

lusty grotto
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he streams walking on a treadmill now

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while playing

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and it just.... throws me off

jagged pier
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hey i do that

tribal wharf
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@rhino, new youtube video coming some point tonight or this week

jagged pier
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its pog

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hit your step goal

lusty grotto
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i dont doubt it

jagged pier
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ez pz

lusty grotto
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but the stream feels weird

solid sun
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What’s the video yogi

tribal wharf
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i might edit it up lightly but

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every time i do a new +10 key

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i record the video of it

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fail or time the key

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and then once i've timed it, on to the next

solid sun
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So you got like a montage

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Or is it just like all the footage put together

tribal wharf
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yes, and the goal of doing this

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is to hopefully find out, the chunks, im missing, to be better than i am

solid sun
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I’ll watch it

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I’m not as good as a lot of the folks here but I’ll watch it and evaluate what I notice

tribal wharf
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the goal is to do all 8 keys on time, by the end of season 1 latest and have those videos up

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so i have 3 unique timed keys on 10, and i think its 2 or 3 on 9

hallow berry
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Thank you for the advice

north coral
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is execute any use in m+ or was that just a 1 patch deal last expansion

lusty grotto
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so on bosses

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we dont talent for execute talents however

shrewd elm
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Hey guys I'm having fun on the warrior so far, just one thing I notice is bleed damage? How do we mitigate that. Also do we have a way to break chain in seat of triumph?

lusty grotto
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you stun or kite to reset stacks

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dwarf if youre dwarf

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and/or use your DRs

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wall, demo shout, defensive stance

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punish, keep your feet on the ground

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etc

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4/4 apex etc

shrewd elm
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I'm dracthyr, because I thought they look cool haha

lusty grotto
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well to be fair

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a good part of the dots cannot be dwarfed

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fiery talons cannot be dwarfed, etc (its not a bleed, but a fire dot)

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just make sure you track debuffs with dbm/bw private auras

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and step away / stun / SR if applicable to reset the stacks

solid sun
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Nimmies

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Just making sure I’m not missing out on something

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You mentioned private auras

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Is there an extra thing to acquire outside of just standard big wigs and little wigs

lusty grotto
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not really

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just to make sure they are on

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and move them if needed

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for example bigwigs has a checkmark for "disabled"

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so people need to make sure they arent

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im sure dbm has something similar

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thats all thats needed

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make them nice and big and visible

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through bigwigs or dbm settings

tribal wharf
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is the general consensus for +10 spire to go left or right

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terms of bosses

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first

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i'm fine with whichever but im asking to know what most groups will expect of me

harsh trellis
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I go right the whole way

tribal wharf
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okay, im learding for it atm

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route

harsh trellis
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Oh wsoy

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Windrunner?

undone beacon
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Honestly I want to start going left first just so I can lust stupid dragonhawk boss

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Hate that boss

harsh trellis
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Yeah thats the play

lusty grotto
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thats technically right running in

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or am i cooked direction wise

harsh trellis
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Right is bird

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I'm driving home so i'm a little bit cooked.I guess I thought he was talking about the f****** bird instance

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So if we're talking wind runners spire you lust, the first pack and then you go left to take care of the chain boss

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And voice to text really sucks

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Smh

valid ginkgo
undone beacon
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Oh yeah it’s not me that struggles on that boss haha

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It’s the dps that always eat shit and die to tornados constantly

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No matter what I do sadge

worthy fiber
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ive seen videos with people with like a >18s shield block, is that a particular talent or am i just being thick

lusty grotto
ornate palm
worthy fiber
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but how do you get more charges as im always out of charges

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more haste ig uess?

lusty grotto
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play the proper talents

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and read the pinned msg

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and do not use on cd

worthy fiber
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ill chekc ty

tribal wharf
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2400 nearly

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theres boots of speed for end of dungeon?

lusty grotto
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not just the end

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if you die (and release like an idiot) you can also use them to run back

tribal wharf
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what a time to be alive

lusty grotto
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its only on that dungeon

tribal wharf
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that was my next question

waxen frigate
lofty warren
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Is there ever a time you can cast so many sb thay you go over the max time

lusty grotto
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sure if you stay with HR at the end of the exp (or final season) when we're packed with haste

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and are slamming SB for no reason

worthy fiber
toxic pewter
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Which one of u guys left this YouTube comment

rotund crow
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What type of uptime is good on shield block in raid fights? around 80%?

lusty grotto
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95%+ ideally

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90%+ at minimum

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80% is bad

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and when i mention those i mean effective uptime

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if you do not know how to check for effective uptime simply check logs and go into the damage taken tab, and hover your mouse over melee (or any blockable attack) hits

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if youre not checking effective uptime, and its 80% buff uptime instead, that means its even worse

rotund crow
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Oh really

warm plinth
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Going to the gym during tornado watch is top tier commitment right

rotund crow
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🤦 reviewing our tanks logs xD

lusty grotto
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you can link us them and we can go over them and if youre worried about names you can anonymize them

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and we can say what to look for

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also make sure to read the first pin its important for SB uptime

rotund crow
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Ye i mean we got paladins down in the end but our other tank died like 8 times to taunts

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but im pretty sure he isnt using SB right

lusty grotto
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hes not

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he has 1116 haste rating and playing ITF, which is technically okay in that fight BUT

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if hes having a hard time keeping SB up, he might benefit from swapping it with Heavy Rep

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thats what the first pin talks about

rotund crow
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I've just noticed something a bit sad

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0 Shield Charge Casts

lusty grotto
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no

rotund crow
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That gives SB Right

lusty grotto
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logs are bugged

rotund crow
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ah ok

lusty grotto
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you dont see SC casts if they are done in melee range

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they have been bugged since DF

rotund crow
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ahhh thats annoying

fringe mural
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aaaaaw yiss

rotund crow
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Ye this makes sense reg shield block uptime isnt good he kinda just died a few times to paladins

lusty grotto
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well shield block is not gonna save him from a failed tank swap

rotund crow
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Well he never died to tank swap

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he was the one killing his fellow tank

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🤣

lusty grotto
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lol

rotund crow
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Pretty sure he has Shield wall bound to last stand too

lusty grotto
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nah thats how last stand works now

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it activates with wall

rotund crow
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oh does it remove a charge of wall?

lusty grotto
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but why would he run LS anyway on that fight

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no

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they both go off

rotund crow
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Ye i dno why he would run LS wouldnt fight through the flames be better?

lusty grotto
rotund crow
lusty grotto
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just run the standard icy veins build, you dont need shit to survive that fight but proper play

rotund crow
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Makes sense

lusty grotto
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he has good CPM on his skills at least

serene plank
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can anyone craft plate gloves?

lusty grotto
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you'd have to ask someone in your server

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crafts arent cross realm

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same realm (but can be cross faction)

rotund crow
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our other tank kinda got blasted by taunt swaps over the night though 😄

waxen frigate
rotund crow
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Ok, well i think i have enough to go off

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ty for the help Nimchip

lusty grotto
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np!

crisp ocean
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@outer willow

lusty grotto
crisp ocean
lusty grotto
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you need to work on SB effective uptime

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ITF with 494 haste rating....

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did we tell you to read the pinned message ?

crisp ocean
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yes

lusty grotto
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have you corrected that?

crisp ocean
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oh you replied to smth else I didnt check the pinned

lusty grotto
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you are also casting WAYYYYYY too many IPs

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and not enough SS

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this is why youre rage starved so much

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if i didnt link it to you before

warm plinth
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Solid advice from our weather service during a flash flood warning: "don't drown" kek

solid sun
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“Chicken noodle soup is great when you are sick, don’t drown when eating it”

outer willow
lusty grotto
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his casts

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his biggest rage gen is 4th

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when it should be at 15 cpm

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its at 9

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thats just, really really bad

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and its under IP of all things

solid sun
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Idk how you cast more IP than you do SS honestly

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Like sitting on globals?

lusty grotto
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well the log is malformed

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so we might be missing stuff

warm plinth
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Also a warning sign based on the relative rage gain of SS

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SS should be like as much rage as the next 4 things combined

lusty grotto
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yup

crisp ocean
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I have a rly low quality video

lusty grotto
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no need

warm plinth
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Nim will you rescue me if you see me floating on a door

lusty grotto
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we have enough info, despite the log being weird

crisp ocean
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okay ty

lusty grotto
warm plinth
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Hey I'm floating on a door. Who am I to be picky

cerulean tusk
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I would push you off that door, then throw rocks at you till warrior get buffs

outer willow
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Hmm

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I see I also press it a little too much

lusty grotto
# outer willow

that doesnt mean anything, you could be generating more rage

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but shield slam should not be under it

outer willow
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I do be generating rage.

lusty grotto
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yeah youre def hitting it way too much

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youre under 50 rage like 80% of that run

crisp ocean
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shield slam, shield block, and thunder clap are what I should be mostly pressing then?

outer willow
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Yep. I'll get better at it.

lusty grotto
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SB you just maintain

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make sure you do

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do not spam it

crisp ocean
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okay tysm

outer willow
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I need to press revenge more. I'm really bad at damage windows.

warm plinth
solid sun
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I’d save you

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I’m a powerful swimmer

tribal wharf
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WE AINT gunna time lol

solid sun
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Maybe because you’re chatting in discord

daring marlin
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yogi keys?

daring marlin
solid sun
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I recognize you probs found out you weren’t gonna time it because of shenanigans within the dungeon but it’s funny to me that you’re chatting during a key

daring marlin
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they gotta LOCK IN

solid sun
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Yeah yogi is making a video dude

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Of all his 10s

undone beacon
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I have discord up on my phone so I can key with one hand and yap with the other

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one button rotation on an mmo mouse, easy

tribal wharf
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it went to hell

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but we will complete i think

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hook bug?

daring marlin
solid sun
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The one button is mapped to each of the mouse buttons

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So you can just slap that shit

undone beacon
oak ivy
warm plinth
solid sun
# warm plinth Are you actually?

I go to the lake a lot, so kinda but not really. I can tread water for a long time and I can move around pretty good but I’m no like speed swimmer in a pool with lanes

urban bane
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im a powerful shield slammer

tribal wharf
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mistakes were made

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so many stupid mistakes

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okay im done for the night

daring marlin
delicate patio
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What do you look for when simming for Prot War?

lusty grotto
#

what do you mean

undone beacon
#

Man just had a 15 spire get abandoned after a wipe on duo boss at 1% sadge

#

Healer went down around 20% and we couldnt sustain

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

im down to clown

#

or drown

#

or frown

undone beacon
#

alright 15 AA pug lets get bricking

#

Welp that was fast

pliant palm
daring marlin
#

your key?

undone beacon
#

first pull whole room tank gets stunned in green big wipe big abandon

#

Nah im sitting on a 15 seat

undone beacon
#

Pwarr sadge

daring marlin
#

LMAOOOOO

undone beacon
#

15 pit time

#

im so sad about that spire the run was so clean up until that wipe

tribal wharf
#

i love bricking keys with brown dot

#

ok thats too much of that for today

#

2 different 10s in same day fried my brain lol

solid sun
#

Guys

#

I love you a lot

#

Hold it down for me

#

I'm going to try my hand at being a pirate

warm plinth
#

OUTLAW?

solid sun
#

Psh

#

Windrose

warm plinth
#

Oh

solid sun
#

Not even on Azeroth, my dude

#

I need a great pirate name

#

I think I'll go with Captain Rhino

#

Seems quality

daring marlin
undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

are we going

lusty grotto
#

me and magey friend can do some

daring marlin
#

I'M HERE NOW

undone beacon
#

Y'all start without me and catch me on the next

#

This pug group has a pulse i need to savor it

coarse bay
#

Savor deez

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

Pash implying you guys don't have a pulse

lusty grotto
#

idk i dont see pash online so

#

hes a big fat priest liar

coarse bay
#

This is known

#

Pash claims to be a goblin

#

Yet isnt

lusty grotto
coarse bay
lusty grotto
#

yes hello? is pash home?

warm plinth
#

@undone beacon HELLO PASH?

#

I tried pinging him like 15 times but I just disconnected my entire PC to clean my desk and stuff and had to re-set my key actuation lol

#

Couldn't type his name without typing 15 As

undone beacon
#

i said do one without me first goobers

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

hello? are you there

#

we're waiting for our bud

#

our spriest bud

#

cause we good fellers

undone beacon
#

we just killed 2nd

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

what in the fuck, its 20 mins since you said they had a pulse

warm plinth
#

Fake news

undone beacon
#

healer had to shit :(

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

Too much pulse

coarse bay
warm plinth
jade yoke
#

Just hit 3k io as a brand new tank player! Never played wow before. I know it’s not much but feels sooo good. Trying for 3.4K now

coarse bay
#

Huge accomplishment for first time tanking

warm plinth
#

Speaking of deswindstream, will we ever see another @potent anvil stream sadge

potent anvil
#

Next expansion, for sure

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

x to doubt

lusty grotto
warm plinth
coarse bay
tribal wharf
#

im completely brain dead after 2 new 10 attempts

loud rune
#

hello frens

tribal wharf
#

run into fence final boss MT

#

on 7

warm plinth
#

ello govna

loud rune
#

is there such a thing as "taunt immunity" if you keep retaunting a boss?

warm plinth
#

Yerp

lofty warren
#

inv my 2.9k io brew to any +14 key of ur choice

warm plinth
#

Taunt suffers from diminishing returns just like CC

tribal wharf
#

did they remove taunt DR?

warm plinth
#

No

loud rune
tribal wharf
#

ah, but i figure maybe thats what hes talking about if anything, more of trying to get to the core of his issue

warm plinth
#

18 seconds following the end of the previous taunt for the DR to reset.

coarse bay
#

Pash

tribal wharf
#

404'd

coarse bay
tribal wharf
#

that was me in loot key

#

still get pants i dont want

#

no ring, no jelly

undone beacon
#

OKAY @daring marlin im ready

#

@lusty grotto @coarse bay im free

coarse bay
lusty grotto
onyx hearth
#

4 days to get 5% bigger

undone beacon
#

5 days to get 4% bigger

toxic pewter
#

6 days to get 7% bigger

unkempt palm
#

just random Q gauging, m+ enjoyers, you guys into the fray or heavy repercussions? i was ITF to 16 resil then swapped to HR because i found myself trying to get kicks/stops and playing the new whack a mole with enemy plates and i focus on clicking sometimes instead of tabbing and let block drop and i die so i found HR help me a bit there

unkempt palm
#

the pin doesnt have opinions in it though

#

which is what i was looking for mostly

lusty grotto
#

its not really an opinion thing

#

its whether you can handle it or not

#

which is in the pin

#

you feel like you need HR? go for it

#

theres no shame in using it

unkempt palm
#

i should have said preferences not opinions

lusty grotto
#

you will fall back in rage gen, gcd, dps in general and resets but thats about it

#

we prefer ITF here

#

the only reason we choose to go HR, is because we just dont have enough haste for ITF to be viable, and an SB gap is death

#

but then again most of us are prot warrior one-tricks, so we're used to managing SB

unkempt palm
#

im gonna go bck to ITF for a bit, i went to HR cause of what i said above ^ but sometimes im just waiting in melee for a proc with HR where i felt like i was waiting less with itf

#

also im like 1200 haste

#

1268*

lusty grotto
#

as long as youre not spamming SB it should be more than manageable

unkempt palm
#

yeah, as im getting more comfy with prot im letting SB get down to under 1 second remaining before pressing sb again, took me a bit to get used to

coarse bay
#

You shouldnt often fall into the point of waiting on a proc. You should always be casting

#

Wait im dumb and read it kinda wrong

tribal wharf
#

I gave that stupid mt binding ring away once

#

now i cant get it to drop

#

conspiracy, game wont drop what i want

undone beacon
#

Dude this fuckin healer

daring marlin
#

THIS HEALER

#

IS BEANS

#

WITH MY OFFHEALS TOO

#

FAILING

coarse bay
#

Beeeeeaaaaans

lusty grotto
#

LMAOOOOOO

coarse bay
daring marlin
#

LEGIT

#

I'M THE BEST

lusty grotto
#

bruh

daring marlin
#

HOLY

#

FUCK

lusty grotto
#

we were bitching about the healer from the start

undone beacon
#

Are y'all in a disc somewhere without me :(

daring marlin
#

I'm not

#

anyway

undone beacon
#

crying

daring marlin
#

pash I took the arrow early on purpose

lusty grotto
#

im with mage

undone beacon
#

oh yeah nim that makes sense

daring marlin
#

cuz I didn't count on this goofy prick to heal

#

I wanted that debuff off me ASAP

undone beacon
#

Ah yeah thats fair enough

#

I took mine a hair too early

lusty grotto
#

i just cant stop laughing he kept getting worse

undone beacon
#

But dude I threw EVERYTHING on 3rd boss

daring marlin
#

you got an LoH even

#

and yet

lusty grotto
#

i seen it 😄

undone beacon
#

Pots, Dispersion, shield, LoH, Vamp Embrace, fade

#

i was dead out lol

lusty grotto
#

im in a pug group with reflect kicks

#

help

daring marlin
#

shoulda linked discord

#

idiot

tribal wharf
#

like i say

#

i have completely and utterly given up hopes

#

of proper reflect vs kick

#

or kick rotations

#

or use this very specific ability on this person at this time

#

it always goes to hell somehow

daring marlin
#

dungeon sucks but it's so easy

#

disc owned

lusty grotto
fallow fern
#

so where you guys gonna send your bonus rolls? debating between nexus for rings or seat for gloves...

daring marlin
#

idk yet

fallow fern
#

i have myth gloves so leaning towards nexus

lofty warren
#

beautiful

warm plinth
#

pepega did you name a toon after me?

lofty warren
#

Depends on how fat u are

drowsy ermine
#

how do I get ignore pain to show up on enemy bar?

#

(I am emergency tanking)

warm plinth
#

There's no reason to track Ignore Pain.

#

Press it when you go over 70 rage

drowsy ermine
#

so don't press revenge?

#

unless I get it for free?

warm plinth
#

You press Revenge still

daring marlin
#

@lusty grotto NEXT TIME DON'T BE A COWARD

warm plinth
#

We don't care about the revenge proc

daring marlin
#

PULL THE BANSHEE WITH FATTY

lusty grotto
#

lmao

warm plinth
# drowsy ermine so don't press revenge?

Press all cooldowns (Avatar, Demo Shout, Shield Charge) on cooldown. Rotationally, prioritize Shield Slam > Thunder Clap/Blast > Revenge (meaning you press SS if available, then TC/TB if SS is not available, then Revenge if neither SS or TC are available). Keep Shield Block up at all times that you're actively tanking (Shield Charge grants Shield Block too). Press Ignore Pain when you go above 70 rage, which will happen even pressing Revenge provided you're doing the rest of the priority correctly.

lusty grotto
daring marlin
#

all good

#

I'm just razzing ya anyway

#

keys were fun and I even got SOME SCORE!!!

undone beacon
#

That was a good time i felt like i was kinda doggin tho

daring marlin
#

good thing we invited that DISC PRIEST

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

That healer was giga, actually helped me improve my priest skills which is awesome

daring marlin
#

big sandbaggin

undone beacon
#

You also felt like i was doggin? Damn real and true

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

Was a good time

#

I cant decide whether i like Voidweaver or Archon more for higher keys

#

The extra 5% stam from Archon feels really good

warm plinth
#

You feel really good

#

FUCKIN GOTTEM

lusty grotto
waxen frigate
undone beacon
waxen frigate
# undone beacon <:peepostudy:617259554530656262>

I need you to take a picture with your ass out and your back bent in with your p---y barely peeking through from a low angle with your face in it winking with your tongue out and your feet in it and your arch is exposed and your toes clenched and your torso at 3/4 rotation with your side boob and your nipples just out of sight with a choker on and your panties around your waist with the middle pulled to the side and your hands through the sides of the panties lifting them upward as your cheeks are out

#

And I need a weapon

warm plinth
warm plinth
#

<@&257983573498265600>

fierce mulch
fallow fern
#

is there any addon to show when to spell reflect like the old weakaura..? or this has been removed now?

warm plinth
#

I do not believe that exists anymore

undone beacon
#

just got told brew has no utility compared to other tanks keks

lusty grotto
#

utility talk is so silly

coarse bay
#

But the tank with the most utility will obviously be meta

undone beacon
coarse bay
#

Ring of peace, more like ring of lame

#

Hah

#

We have a ring of friendship here

#

Now who wants some koolaid

undone beacon
#

I am the diplomat

toxic pewter
#

heck yeah grats

undone beacon
#

Now that i have all the reps i gotta spend all my marl

#

get all the toys and shit

coarse bay
#

Marl is such a word

#

Marl…

undone beacon
#

its a neat one

#

bit antiquated but very fantasy

toxic pewter
#

i actually googled marl like a moment after pash said gotta spend em lol

round pendant
#

wait you changed

#

wtf

#

bear traitor

undone beacon
#

im a witch now

#

a sexy witch

round pendant
#

I hate this server

#

insert looking emote here

undone beacon
round pendant
#

I guess that works

undone beacon
#

I'm gonna make a femboy shadow priest gif but idk what to use as the gif itself

#

Too many good options

round pendant
#

god I'm falling off

undone beacon
vocal owl
#

If im overcapping on rage some times, is it not better to go 130 rage build?

lusty grotto
#

it its not something happens a lot, you dont have to

#

but you can go for it

#

there's flex points

vocal owl
#

What build is the best over all ? Just from wowhead?

lusty grotto
#

icy veins

undone beacon
#

We reccomend Icy Veins

#

Our wowhead guidewriter retired

vocal owl
#

Ohh okay thanks,

How bad is it to macro shield Block in shield slam? Just any macro there makes is easyer

lusty grotto
#

its bad

#

if you use it to shield slam

#

there are no macros for us to make things easier

#

any macro you use to reduce keybinds will end up hurting your gameplay

vocal owl
#

Okay I need to get good then

drowsy comet
round pendant
#

quit poe

#

tried tli then I realised it's full of ai slop assets

#

kinda over osrs league within a couple days

#

now idk what to do

#

@undone beacon help me

undone beacon
#

the fuck is tli

drowsy comet
drowsy comet
#

this free game

sharp gale
#

paradox games are the thing fulfilling my autistic rushes

round pendant
drowsy comet
round pendant
#

It sucks cause the game is fun, it's like poe but without the 200 hours investment you need for a smooth build

undone beacon
#

ive been playing house flipper peepo

round pendant
undone beacon
#

And i 100%'ed Berry Bury Berry

drowsy comet
round pendant
#

I'm making fun of you for typing your instead of you're

#

lil gup

drowsy comet
#

sigh

round pendant
#

I wasn't complaining that I was bored, I simply have run out of things I wish to do

lusty grotto
#

get fucked lil gup

round pendant
#

WHOA

lusty grotto
drowsy comet
lusty grotto
#

sadge okay

drowsy comet
#

tsk tsk

round pendant
#

lil gup

#

you're IN that den

#

We're all old here, except you

sharp gale
#

in bobbys maze sadge

undone beacon
#

2am skyhold is getting aggro oh my

drowsy comet
#

i somehow just spawned here

#

Now yall go to bed, its late

#

while I literally just got up lmao

sharp gale
drowsy comet
sharp gale
drowsy comet
sharp gale
drowsy comet
#

Bro another gnome

#

why

sharp gale
#

I want to try windwalker

drowsy comet
#

Ye I heard they are pretty good

sharp gale
#

I want my monk and paladin to be lvl90 before next next reset

sharp gale
#

2 warriors = it cancels it out

solid sun
#

Just finished a Windrose session

#

Fun as heck

drowsy comet
#

lowkey im hungry for that set

#

that also looks dope @sharp gale

sharp gale
#

that's mop set

#

but red

cerulean tusk
#

You are a mop

drowsy comet
#

no they were datamined and are coming in the trading post for 400 coins

#

lowkey thats cheap as heck BUT IM BROKE sadge

cerulean tusk
#

I got 15k tendies

#

Git gud

drowsy comet
#

i mean im more hyped for the Hallowfall set since I completely missed that one during legion remix, literally such a goated set with so cool weapons

#

think theres a greenset too with a shield I guess?

#

hallowfall, I mean that halloween set

sharp gale
drowsy comet
#

but soon I will, purple judgement looks dope

#

but i dont have any matching weapon or shield mogs..

vital stirrup
#

am i supposed to use wrecking throw even if there is no shield to use it on?

stone tundra
#

For the silence

vital stirrup
#

ahh i kinda forgot it does that

final radish
#

do you think for next week we should play colossus ?

vital vale
#

wow, the top score pwar on my realm really does not like AA it seems

#

or maybe its a weird flex

#

it could be fun tho getting to 2980 score while doing only 7/8 dungeons then doing the missing one on 16 and getting both KSL and KSMyth at the same time

echo egret
#

Is it normal that I get smashed on the 1st pull of Skyreach ? Shear + Blade Rush + everything else hitting on me (on a +14)

vital vale
#

it hurts but it shouldnt smash you esp not on a 14

daring marlin
drowsy comet
fringe mural
#

Hey guys, did anyone get some experience with itf once at the haste breakpoint?

#

i know the theoretical value is 1188 but does it feel smooth to switch to itf once you get there?

#

and there's always a difference between theoretical value and practical application

#

because if it looks good but you don't feel confidente...

fringe mural
drowsy comet
bleak breach
#

I just play ITF no matter what because I’m lazy

drowsy comet
wind arrow
#

hey guys, i am new to tanking and its a bit overwhelming for me. is it ok to use the SBA for my attacks or is it a bad idea? 🙂

charred ivy
#

its arcanowave lining x2 for m+ best?

drowsy comet
molten gorge
#

honestly like, it depends what you're planning to do imo

wind arrow
#

which wil be all coverd by the SBA

molten gorge
#

I feel like you could probably clear a weekly 10 with everyone using the 1 button rotation honestly

daring marlin
#

you could more than likely clear a 13-14 with everybody using it as long as they don't die

drowsy comet
stiff inlet
#

So i am looking at some logs on 14s (i cleared a couple yesterday) its my first time tanking and living is not really the major issue, but i seem to be doing way less shield slams then the people higher in parses for similar dung, i feel like i am hitting it every time it is up, is there a simple answer for what i am doing wrong?

#

been a pwar for 2 weeks so i could just be doing something fundamentally wrong.

#

I did since swap a little vers for crit, and speed for leech, and need to demo shout more.

tacit haven
#

Whats the best way to have the game "yell" at me if I drop shield block? not sure if it's possible to have 100% uptime, but I feel I could probably do better than I am currently

#

just did my first tanking dungeon of the expansion, and seems I had 60% uptime according to logs. used to have a lot better (when WAs were around :D)

tacit haven
stiff inlet
#

I will try that!

#

ty

tribal wharf
#

shaman tank when

sharp gale
#

I want a new class

harsh trellis
#

shaman tank never

tribal wharf
#

also tanks is only 10% of the players? lmao

harsh trellis
#

but they need to give wars bloodlust

daring marlin
drowsy comet
# tribal wharf

on EU I can approve it, looking at Raider IO, keys 12 and above are: Healers 79k and Tanks 77k

15 and up:

16.4k Healers and 15k Tanks critcake

sharp gale
#

They will not give war bl bc prot

jagged pier
drowsy comet
#

had to check RaiderIO cuz idk if any other website than maybe murlokio shows all player counts

daring marlin
#

no reason to not let a tank have bl

#

imo

tribal wharf
#

i have a warbound shield right

#

and i play pwar

daring marlin
#

only two healers give it atm?

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
#

and i crafted shield for paladin i never play

daring marlin
drowsy comet
#

better than no lust

sharp gale
#

Ppl are brainwashed into bl or deplete

jagged pier
#

Hands arent fast enough yet

daring marlin
#

If they insist on shitty drums where are the scrolls

jagged pier
#

And also if u cared about damage u wouldnt run that build

daring marlin
#

bring back scrolls

tribal wharf
#

so this wb shield effectively can only go to shaman that would never really use it cuz get played by me resto or ele

#

drums is wish lust

#

temu

#

dollar store, has been since minimum bfa and honestly likely legion (didnt play it sry)

#

best is shaman and dragonand wizard not even close

daring marlin
#

and we had scrolls too

mild river
#

A question:

The 3% AP given by this talent is only for myself or to the group as well?

tribal wharf
#

thats the whole point to me lol

#

less value

#

so further reinforce bring actual lust, and with hunter yhey had to or still have to take out right pet hit button annd then dismmiss then back to dmg

#

where as shaman and mage iis 1 button instant zero dekay full value

#

i feel same way about how only warlock can provide healthstones 3 charges 25% max hp potion, 3 min cd on well

#

shits op

#

and no other class has anything remotely comparable to it, so often i also look for warlock group

tribal wharf
#

bug problem theme i have with wow general, you get limited heavily constrained into inly this is viable

#

beyond +3 key

drowsy comet
#

man Seat is a nightmare as a healer, jesus, +10 Seat, 13 deaths (I didnt die once as healer lmao) and we still timed it somehow. This mage died literally like 7 times, I couldnt do shit. And then he hits us with the "im new to mage" critcake

daring marlin
drowsy comet
harsh trellis
#

yeah no worries you were healing

stone tundra
#

You could do a coffee break inbetween and still time it

harsh trellis
#

I read this chat like everyone plays prot

#

so I go into troubleshooting prot war and forget yall play all sorts of things

drowsy comet
dawn lintel
#

dude i'm getting tired of not getting invited to keys because i'm not a monk

dawn lintel
#

like fellas, we doing +10+12 not fucking pushing +20

harsh trellis
#

just take your key and pump it up

dawn lintel
#

doesn't really work if ya running the same dungeon for drops

harsh trellis
#

neck?

#

enchant?>

#

err trink?

#

I only started experiencing the not getting invited at 15

stone tundra
#

Just time some 16+ to get the rating required to run 10speepoHappy

hidden goblet
#

got told i did a good job yesterday tanking in a dungeon for the first time, was only a classic low level but still felt nice

daring marlin
#

man imagine being a dps

drowsy comet
#

Brother...

#

what a degenerate pussy do you have to be be behave like that jfc

stone tundra
#

Alot of ppl take this game way to seriously

#

Every move need to be ridiculed, everything is an attack to their honor, they will always retaliate, every critique is an assault to their personal being

drowsy comet
#

this guy also called in 2 abandons. First in the first 3 minutes because our tank pulled alil too much than he could handle, second abandon again because of the same thing, and he ABSOLUTELY crashed out...

stone tundra
#

Penalty system kinda working

#

You can take ppl hostage

drowsy comet
#

these players dont get banned apparently, cuz why on earth is this kind of behavior even a thing...

stone tundra
#

Low self esteem probably

tribal wharf
# drowsy comet Brother...

"DEAR TANK; I just want to let you know that you got to be the stupidest idiot I've ever seen, trying to play as a protection warrior, you are the epitome of scum inside of a pond filled with goldfish with no fins so the fish all sink to the bottom, so I hope you uninstall the game and never tank again and get the fate you deserve, you are the worst thing to happen to World of Warcraft ever. I seriously hope you really do go all in so that the rest of us can watch a live failure of a human being. Good Luck."

solar laurel
#

hey all i got a very basic question. i really like the sudden doom talent since execute just feels fun to press, btu have now begrudgingly removed it since literally noone runs it and apparently tough as nails is just better 😄 so this leads me to the following question: if a procced sudden death execute is not even worth pressing over just revenge, should i just remove it from my bar entirely and use revenge even in execute range?

ionic fern
tribal wharf
#

technically is a rage dump deals dmg is way i look at it

solar laurel