protection

[unkempt hazel]

see ur learning

[lusty grotto]

no

not true

[fluid widget]

You should pin that

[crisp ocean]

also the dps cuz they can’t interrupt

[unkempt hazel]

gon be a proper tank in no time

[fluid widget]

Absolutely golden

[unkempt hazel]

unless u werent just playing along

[severe star]

in all honestly the healer I just had was amazing at healing and we were crushing the key but then they died 3 times on falling rubble on commander

[crisp ocean]

i don’t understand the highlight things on my party tho

what does it mean if it’s blue

[solid sun]

Sounds like maybe an addon

[undone beacon]

usually that means theres a dispellable magic effect

[crisp ocean]

ohh okay

[undone beacon]

Red is bleed, green is poisons, brown is disease

[solid sun]

We don’t do that here

[crisp ocean]

okay ty

[harsh trellis]

Also are you using jundies plater?

Or jundies platynator?

Very useful in keys

[solid sun]

It’s primarily noticeable if you’re a 1/4 gamer

Chad 4/4 gamers don’t need nameplate addons

[lusty grotto]

really gotta learn to stop memeing when there's people asking legit questions

[solid sun]

He got the answer he needed

[undone beacon]

Real endgame achieved, pack it up

[worn reef]

if i get a vault with myth trinkets for prot (not raid) im gonna take the skyreach one with the crit and the windrunner with the haste proc, just based on m+ tab on the vault, are those 2 a solid 2.....cause im thinking how is the academy trinket (mastery proc) any good for prot war, like when i hit the button what benefit do i get, i know its shield block value so for prot is that like a big defensive from damage taken, just trying figure out why that academy mastery trinket is s tier on trinkets for prot spec

[lusty grotto]

mastery is also AP

and its a huge amount of it

[worn reef]

ah i see, dps increase, makes sense

i wont pass it up then for sure

[lusty grotto]

well sure but AP also increases your IP cast sizes

[worn reef]

i passed up the caverns mastery stick trinket mythic for mythic tier gloves, i was like i rather get tier over that trinket

[lusty grotto]

also both skyreach trinkets are solid

[undone beacon]

The caverns trinket is not that great, so good call

[lusty grotto]

solar core is bar none the best defensive trinket

[lofty warren]

Can anyone in your group enable route highlight or only tank?

[worn reef]

yeah i got champ track of that orange trinket from skyreach, it makes them higher keys way easier on big pulls

[lusty grotto]

and prism is a very strong offensive (but also defensive due to crit = parry) trinket

[outer willow]

I think only tank right?

The notes say tank role has to enable and disable

[timid tapir]

looking at a lot of the top prot wars on rio and just want to confirm mastery > crit at this point?

[worn reef]

so i watched a video yesterday from that signsofkelani youtube channel and it mentions about this voidstorm npc doing it 5 times over (with catchup next week if you are behind) and you get 2 mythic track pieces, im under the impression you get tokens to use in m+ runs and use them? anybody got more info about this like ok say if i do a +10 next week and im caught up with voidstorm thing, does the item just show up in the chest or do i have to click some currency when i loot the chest, im guessing we really don't know till we see it live

[undone beacon]

An extra pop-up will appear at the end of the dungeon prompting you to use a new reroll currency to roll on a bonus item

You can get 2 reroll tokens a week from Decimus, for Gold/Marl/Vet Crests

[coarse bay]

Sim > sim

[worn reef]

ah so ill be running skyreach for that prot trinket and burn 2 rerolls there every week till i get it

[undone beacon]

And a bonus token if you take pity currency from vault

Sure, if thats what you wanna do go for it

[jagged pier]

i dont know where u go this but the top warrior has less mastery than crit

and thats just not true anyway as a general statement

[timid tapir]

i just opened tabs of like 1-15 and see a lot of mastery

but ill sim like the gentleman above said

[worn reef]

yeah skyreach got a weapon shield and trinket in proc spec, lots of choices in that loot table

[coarse bay]

We’re still early enough that people will also just wear the best that they have

[outer willow]

Ilvl is king

[timid tapir]

true

[jagged pier]

r u looking at %s instead of rating

cause like 25% mastery is giga low amount of rating

and i bet a lot of these are dps mains in raid

[lusty grotto]

it also happens that most

[jagged pier]

so are playing fury

[lusty grotto]

off pieces

with haste

in the raid

have mastery

[worn reef]

im wondering where do you start putting crit over vers like what % vers it starts to lower value over crit

[lusty grotto]

whenever raidbots tells you to, but also crit is > vers and has been since its inception

[coarse bay]

That was poetic with the pictures in between

[jagged pier]

u always put crit over vers

ver is only good if u can get to like 50% which is impossible

[lusty grotto]

there's only one tank that goes vers over crit, and thats bears

we gear the same way as VDH

[daring marlin]

Only time vers has ever been desirable was BFA and corruption

frankly

[timid tapir]

is there still a min % you want to maintian of vers?

[lusty grotto]

no

[jagged pier]

there never has been

[lofty warren]

👍

[undone beacon]

GUIL I am so close

[daring marlin]

Pog

[worn reef]

oh boy time to recraft my back and wrist from haste vers to haste crit

[undone beacon]

Im hero capped so, next week easy set

[lusty grotto]

maybe you should have read the guides first

[worn reef]

i can afford it, i like to pay for lessons learned lol

[lusty grotto]

cause even if we support only icy-veins and not wowhead, wowhead's stat prio is still correct

[worn reef]

yeah i thought it was haste then crit = vers then mastery oops

[lusty grotto]

still no idea where you got that vers > crit

we've always prio'd crit

always

the only exception is only if you ran versatile in bfa s4

but thats about it

[undone beacon]

this is bear stat prio, wrong rage class

[lusty grotto]

that does not mean vers or mastery are bad

nor that you should avoid them

[burnt nest]

speaking of trinkets, is there an intelligent way to use the puzzle box as prot? (only did one 10 last week before the rest and it's what I got in my vault)

[jagged pier]

before u pull

[outer willow]

When you don’t need to block

When the boss is RPing before a big move

[undone beacon]

Before you pull, after a group stun with a shockwave, when you arent taking damage

[daring marlin]

corruption was so fun til vers stacking

[undone beacon]

I cast twlight dev beam of doom

[burnt nest]

I tried that didn't work out as planned. shockwave stun is too short, puzzle box isn't done casting before they all AA you at once after coming out

[worn reef]

i still remember farming saddles in arena with full vers corruption gear, i had all that currency banked up and i was op as hell the first week lol

[undone beacon]

If they are affected by stun DR the nyeah it wont work. If they arent on DR it can work

[timid tapir]

once you solidified routes it's easy to just prepull puzzle the bigger pulls in it

[jagged pier]

just dont user it

ez fix

[burnt nest]

🙁

[timid tapir]

i have no other trinks tho 🙁

[drowsy comet]

how does a Blood DK die 5 times in a dungeon...jfc

[jagged pier]

just use the rep one its still giga dumb for a champ trinket

[worn reef]

if i do a big pull cast avatar then demo shout and press trinket with the demo shout and start slamming my rotation on a big pull that seems to be good value for the trinket right

use a dps pot with that trinket lol

[burnt nest]

just double-checked. puzzle box is on the GCD so you can't instantly start using it after shockwaving, must wait for the GCD first. and it has a 1.5(?) sec cast time so there's not enough time to get it off even with no DR.
unless you have huge amounts of haste maybe?

[worn reef]

ah i see cast trinket once you about to avatar demo shout pot and aoe the pack

only challenge is you holding that threat while casting that trinket

esp when you trying to maximize its value on a big pull

im going to assume devour dh is a bursty class, i had my first dps death from a big pull yesterday from early dps on a big pull, i guess ill intervene devour dh if they go full blast when i dont got threat yet lol

[lofty warren]

Can demolish suffer from spell pushback?

[lusty grotto]

no

[undone beacon]

You can get away with it but its not reccomended. Safest to just throw it before pull

[lusty grotto]

for the most part

[toxic pewter]

just had a major meltdown argument in magisters terrace 17

[drowsy comet]

why that

[toxic pewter]

not even worth your time me going into it

but lets just say we didnt time the key

[undone beacon]

i blame the dk

[toxic pewter]

DUDE

LITERALLY WAS A DK

thts uncanny

[undone beacon]

LMAO

Soul read

[toxic pewter]

we were on track to timing it

[pastel geyser]

Always the dk

[toxic pewter]

like i can post screenshots of the argument

[daring marlin]

many such cases

[toxic pewter]

dude was giga rude to me

[daring marlin]

fotm chasers have the biggest egos

[undone beacon]

do it

[daring marlin]

udks are garbage

[toxic pewter]

yeah i hit his ego hard

cuz i asked a question en route to final boss

[unkempt hazel]

you did WHAT

[toxic pewter]

and he was like questioning my route

what a debaucle

[unkempt hazel]

what key was it

[toxic pewter]

magisters terrace

[unkempt hazel]

can we go back to the times where its just"follow tank"

and shut up

[undone beacon]

"trust"

[unkempt hazel]

but also yeah

i've notic magisters have a lot of route questioners

[jagged pier]

wrong some strimmers have the biggest

[unkempt hazel]

every time I got left side of library

someone is angry

every damn time

still cant let go of a mage that asked why am I going left side is more risky

?!?!

[toxic pewter]

so basically from the start we agreed to gate past the final 2 mobs, my route is very straightforward and accounts for the skip. meanwhile throughout the key, someone kept pulling extra mobs, like to the point where we have 100% count before that 2nd to last pack u normally kill and then gate after. So i asked en route to that 2nd to last pack is it possible to even gate past that pack ( i thought basically no, but who knows maybe the lock had done it or knew something I didnt... i expected prob not) but when i asked that question the dk lost his mind and started arguing with me and he ran into that final small pack of adds that patrol on the way up and he died

what a meltdown lmao

i gotta disable chat and just stop asking questions I guess

[jagged pier]

[tribal wharf]

why would i bother crafting rank 2

if its exactly the same lol

[toxic pewter]

hmmm

i swear it should be like 32

[unkempt hazel]

seems like ui bug

[toxic pewter]

for the rank 2

[unkempt hazel]

its def 32

[tribal wharf]

im just reporting what im seeing

[unkempt hazel]

u can just buy the gem on ah btw

[severe star]

in spire does the commander bladestorm damage his allies because it doesnt seem to

[unkempt hazel]

either way seems like just another crafting ui bug

[tribal wharf]

oh ya, well i guess i never saw them before,

[undone beacon]

it does not

[severe star]

alright thats what I was thinking

[undone beacon]

it did on the beta iirc but didnt make it to live

[tribal wharf]

lame

my guild cant make it

[unkempt hazel]

oof

[outer willow]

Idr who said it, but disabling the damage meters and just zugging has done wonders for my enjoyment

Ty

[lusty grotto]

what

[solid sun]

Cam and/or myself have both mentioned not using damage meters

It’s kinda sick

[outer willow]

That’s why I want to kiss you

[lusty grotto]

thats silly

[outer willow]

It’s freeing

[solid sun]

We still look at logs

[lusty grotto]

i mean it really isnt

[outer willow]

I also sleep without socks.

Same concept.

[lusty grotto]

getting placebo'd

[solid sun]

Nah I mean

[outer willow]

I sure am

[solid sun]

Pash doesn’t look at them in raid

[proud coyote]

I think it used to on beta but that didn’t make it to live.

[lusty grotto]

i dont look at them during combat, but i dont turn them off

[solid sun]

They aren’t as useful as they used to be

[tribal wharf]

posabale doom slayer action figure..........

[lusty grotto]

thats just giga cope

[tribal wharf]

i quite tempted to buy it now

[daring marlin]

true

[tribal wharf]

shit lol

guess i wont be buying it

[daring marlin]

@toxic pewter was it the dk pulling extra?

[toxic pewter]

not sure

[undone beacon]

I literally said that

[lusty grotto]

MT is just not a udk dungeon

udk need big big pulls

[daring marlin]

LOG IT

[lusty grotto]

and to route through cds

[toxic pewter]

apparently the people in the party were saying the mw monk may of been pulling stuff with some spinning kicks or something

[toxic pewter]

yeah i got the log

[proud coyote]

Well i didn't see that

[undone beacon]

I set my meters to display deaths in raid because I find it distracting otherwise. In keys i like keeping it on dps because when i slam all my CDs in a big pack and number go brrr I am very amused

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[proud coyote]

https://klipy.com/gifs/agent-dodging-bullets-the-matrix-1

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/karofi-meme-đmcs-gif-20297029

[solid sun]

Sometimes they’re distracting

Sometimes they hurt the mental

[lusty grotto]

you guys have a huge problem looking at stuff you dont need to

if you think turning off meters is a good thing

[solid sun]

Sometimes I turn them back on and see how I’m doing and turn them back off

[undone beacon]

Why does it matter though nim? What are you actively gaining having that UI element in the middle of combat?

[lusty grotto]

this is the exact same reason why we tell people to not track IP

[proud coyote]

Tanking is where meters distract me the least like I'm not gonna be up there anyway

[undone beacon]

Yeah, our advice is to NOT track IP, not track it but ignore it on your UI

How is this different

[lusty grotto]

i mean its the same thing

[undone beacon]

If the information isnt relevant, removing it from your periphery is a fine piece of advice

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[proud coyote]

can you disable damage meter in combat with base UI?

[lusty grotto]

you guys do you

[toxic pewter]

i gotta work on my tank ego

how does one lower ego

[drowsy comet]

[proud coyote]

tanking has always done terrible things for my ego lol

[burnt nest]

immediate feedback is always better though

[solid sun]

I haven’t noticed you having much of an ego apb

[drowsy comet]

No.

[undone beacon]

Just feels weird to say its giga cope to turn off meters in combat while also saying its best to not track IP if they fall under the same idea

[drowsy comet]

Tank ego bad

[toxic pewter]

like a normal person doesnt argue with that dk and just keeps continuing the key

[drowsy comet]

Tank ego cringe

[toxic pewter]

instead i argued with that guy

[burnt nest]

you do some stuff in combat, you glance down at the meter. you see if what you just did had a good result or abad result, then either positively or negatively reinforce it

[toxic pewter]

hmmm yeah its hard to say

[solid sun]

I use logs to evaluate my performance

[severe star]

To massivly boost your ego as a tank just run normal level up duegon and do top damage

[proud coyote]

tank ego there whether you like it or not comes with the role

[solid sun]

I don’t need micro evaluations mid dungeon

[burnt nest]

too long between the events for me to learn

[toxic pewter]

I have bad habit of arguing with people in the key I really need to cease that

only if they start it though

[celest notch]

I just intentionally heroic leap into the middle of a pack to curb my ego a bit

[severe star]

Im just completly silent in all my duegons

[proud coyote]

i get my ego from living scary things on tank not from the damage.

[solid sun]

I wouldn’t tell you not to use damage meters though if they help you

[severe star]

Im just there to tank

[toxic pewter]

like anytime someone says something i perceive to be negative i sort of have a meltdown isnt that ego

[proud coyote]

though i've seen prot pally do some crazy things on big pulls damage wise

no that's insecurity

[undone beacon]

I mean if you want meters on or off during combat is your own preference. I found that when I was starting to raid seriously, turning them off in encounters was a great boon to my performance as I was too busy trying to evaluate output and dying to avoidable mechanics

[toxic pewter]

yes hmmm interesting

but arent the people with largest egos often quite insecure

[solid sun]

APB you lack knowledge on the dungeons and rely heavily on your general talent

[proud coyote]

yeah but they aren't the same. Many people with big egos also aren't insecure

[drowsy comet]

lowkey kinda having fun again healing, idk. Type shi-

[burnt nest]

AW-divine toll into light's deliverance can be like 7 million damage in two globals. pretty crazy

[toxic pewter]

damn. you call it like u see it and you are not wrong

[solid sun]

You focus on your lack of knowledge instead of basking in your skill

[toxic pewter]

i dont put in the work

[drowsy comet]

dotn

sry

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[proud coyote]

dothn't*

[drowsy comet]

Can you dont 👁️

[solid sun]

My advice to you APB

[solid sun]

Is focus more on how skilled you are

Then you don’t have to feel so insecure when a dk talks shit to you

[severe star]

I kinda hate blaming healers but in my last like 5 keys I can justify not liking them

[lusty grotto]

this is just justification for personal preference

[solid sun]

But also you could def ask us more questions so you learn more stuff

[toxic pewter]

I appreciate that advice

[severe star]

3 of which were seat

[celest notch]

Whenever a DPS talks shit, just check interrupts. Especially on a DK. if they aren't top 2, call them out

[solid sun]

You’re a very good player

Genuinely very good

Don’t sweat the pugs

[stray sonnet]

is this a good defensive trinket?

[lusty grotto]

or dont, and go next and stop being a little bitch in chat

[celest notch]

Truuuuue

[toxic pewter]

Yes I have to in that moment just become more resilient

[lusty grotto]

its very meh

[severe star]

or just dont say anything at all

[stray sonnet]

hopefully better than at least

i need more survivability

[undone beacon]

this is a solid trinket tbh

[stray sonnet]

oh lol

[lusty grotto]

then instead of looking at trinkets you should link your logs so that we tell you what youre doing wrong

[undone beacon]

^

[lusty grotto]

because most of the time its not a trinket pulling your defensive weight

[stray sonnet]

its a fresh prot warrior toon in m+ right now. i'm only 248

[lusty grotto]

so?

i did 10s at 230s

[celest notch]

I got resil at 250

[drowsy comet]

your healer didnt like you, right

[lusty grotto]

my point is, your gameplay is worth more than any item you equip up to a certain point of course

[lusty grotto]

why wouldnt they like me

im not brain dead

[solid sun]

Because your shield breaks

(It was just one time)

[drowsy comet]

because healing a low ilvl tank is stressful, depending on how much damage you took

[lusty grotto]

again

ilvl has nothing to do with it

[toxic pewter]

people on reddit freakin out over prot warr repair costs vs other specs

[lusty grotto]

unless youre like ilvl 170 or some shit

[celest notch]

Prot warrior doesn't take damage unless you mess up or have a DoT on you

[mild river]

Hey guys. I really need to ask this. Was tankin a 17 SR. After 3rd boss going left there is a pack that places that stupid dot on tanks which i was quite sure i HAD TO kite because it's impossible to outheal or live that shit facetanking it. But after we wiped i was asked why i was kiting:

Am i wrong in doing that?

[undone beacon]

No, you're not wrong to kite those

DPS having a DPS moment

[lusty grotto]

well it depends on how you kite

if youre running to africa for no reason

they will lose uptime

[mild river]

i get 4 stacks and run

[white dove]

def not something u should kite, u have a dot on u regardless and if u line heals or make other dps line heals ur going to suffer

[lusty grotto]

you just back up reset stacks, go back in

you get x number of stacks you stun the adpt, you reset, go back in

[undone beacon]

Yeah. Theres a method to drop stacks

[mild river]

exactly what i was doing

[lusty grotto]

if youre doing laps around the room and the dps loses damage = this is bad for both the key and you

because if youre fully kiting

youre not generating rage

mobs will not die

etc

[jagged pier]

u can literally backstep

and it drops

theres no need to run

[white dove]

^

[undone beacon]

Just parry 4head

[white dove]

bro prob ran up n down the stairs twice

[lusty grotto]

thats exactly my point

[undone beacon]

I mean yeah dont run em to narnia and back

[solid sun]

Why are you shitting on him. He said he did what Nim described

[lusty grotto]

ive seen some people kite like their lives depend on it, just turn on bigwigs/dbm private auras, put them in a nice, visible and easily accessible place and manage your debuffs

[jagged pier]

i mean they also said 4 stacks and run

so thats 2 different things

[undone beacon]

I'll give you 4 stacks and run

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

because nobody will ever complain about kiting if they arent just going on a flight to siberia with a leap

so in case you didnt catch something there not adding up...

there it is

[solid sun]

He also received four answers

When he asked the question

He was told yes you kite, no you don’t kite, you stun and back up, and you just back up

[lusty grotto]

well 🤷‍♂️

[solid sun]

I gleaned we have no idea what we are doing lol

[lusty grotto]

cant really do much about those

i can go toxicchip mode on them but im too tired today

[undone beacon]

[solid sun]

I just didn’t like that the one person kinda shit on him when we can’t really know what happened. I like when people ask questions

[lusty grotto]

i dont see anyone shitting on them

i see one dude saying dumb shit

but thats about it

[warm plinth]

I think kiting is a misleading term to use for scenarios like that

[lusty grotto]

the "you def shouldn't kite" dude to be specific

[warm plinth]

Kiting to me says I'm running away. Backstepping (to me) is not kiting

[hollow patio]

I had a Warlock complaining about my pulls in a Skyreach 16. In reality on the platform at the last boss I pulled 1 pack + bird on the left.
Then the mage blinked into the pack on the far right and the dh got knocked into the last remaining pack.

Obviously my fault I guess.
Some DPS just like to complain 🤷‍♂️

[tribal wharf]

that 10 pit of saron was completely unremarkable other than someone didnt get the concept of pull trash until lust debuff fades

[lusty grotto]

im not talking about that

[undone beacon]

See off the cuff I would count anything that involves disengaging the mobs to be a form of kiting but thats semantics for sure

[tribal wharf]

then the warlock is complaing again that "we shouldnt be lusting a st boss with 2 mt dps"

[lusty grotto]

and honestly thats not something we can control, but if you say they complained and then say you were kiting, something just does not add up

its more likely that they were jumping to africa, like i mentioned

if it was just dps complaining, nobody here is new, its whatever and its not something we can solve

[hollow patio]

Warrior is also just dogshit against these mobs cause we have low dodge/Parry compared to other tanks

[lusty grotto]

wwhat

https://klipy.com/gifs/seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld-2

[undone beacon]

You're gonna get toxichip

[hollow patio]

Monk just resets for free on these packs compared to warrior

[tribal wharf]

go back to monk discord is my response

[solid sun]

I think that’s fair Ghash

I agree with pash like off the cuff just kinda viewing it all as kiting

But it’s def different than running to Barbie

Narnia

Or Barbie I guess

Either way

[warm plinth]

You don't disengage the mobs if you're backstepping though.

[undone beacon]

If you backstep enough so they don't auto I consider that disengaging

[solid sun]

Don’t they apply the debuff on auto attacks

And the goal is to turn the auto attack off

[warm plinth]

Idk, then it sounds like maybe backstepping is the term being misused here

To me, backstepping is like...how you avoid gloom bite in eco dome

A momentary step back to prevent the cast from finishing

[solid sun]

Tbf I’ve only tanked it on my fury warrior when the tank I was with died

[warm plinth]

but you don't even lose a global

[solid sun]

Which meant I also promptly died

[undone beacon]

I mean you have to outrange the mobs autos not just a cast so, idk. Semantics n shit

[warm plinth]

Idk I am not the well ackshually guy, but I don't think the terms are interchangeable I guess is my point

[solid sun]

You can be my guy

[tribal wharf]

THEY'LL BURY YOU IN A LUNCHBOX!

[warm plinth]

If you have to move away for an extended period to drop stacks (e.g. resetting necrotic), then yes it's kiting

[fiery lotus]

I know yall are in the middle of a discussion so I'll keep it somewhat brief. I'm an extremely casual prot warrior player, and I plan doing maybe up to 10s at some point. I'm just not grasping when to use intercept, and also my target moving away from me that makes me wonder if it's worth using. Should I even worry about it?

[warm plinth]

If I'm just stutter stepping backward, it's backstepping, not kiting

[undone beacon]

We dont really use intervene tbh

Also please disrupt this conversation it is dreadful

[warm plinth]

Intervene has been kind of useless outside of a mobility tool for a long time

No one would judge you if you talent something else

[tribal wharf]

i like intervene because mobility

cant live with out it i figure

[fiery lotus]

I've only been using it for mobility or extremely niche save with a targeted trash ability. Thanks

[hollow patio]

There are only very specific situations where intervene tends to be useful. Like Priory last season. Don't even know any good use this season tbh.

[warm plinth]

It can be clutch in situations where you were late moving for a mechanic and can intervene to a teammate or something, but yeah

[tribal wharf]

i use that shit on cd basically

[warm plinth]

what do you mean by the latter? Because intervene doesn't work on the vast majority of targeted things

[tribal wharf]

all the damned time

[burnt nest]

sounds wild bro

[hollow patio]

Sounds like SL gameplay

Or whenever intervene granted sb

[warm plinth]

Like if a mob uses a spell on a teammate, intervene is doing nothing to save them. It basically only works on auto attacks (both melee and ranged - think like arrows/guns, not spells)

Very rarely does it actually work an ability, which is what it used to be really strong for

[fiery lotus]

I thought it was working for Bolt Gale in windrunner spire but maybe I'm wrong. like I said I'm very casual prot warrior player

[lusty grotto]

it does not

if the ability is blockable, it works

[mental scarab]

I use to to drop stacks ex, just target caster frend behind me and swosh away

[tribal wharf]

okay , i have to admit it now

im a liar

[solid sun]

I’d also like to add that you’re always welcome to ask a question. It’s never an interruption :)

[fiery lotus]

Good to know, I'll stop wasting my time when the healers complain lol

[lusty grotto]

the only thing that works is storm shield, but its so minimal we hardly pick it

[tribal wharf]

i just watched my 10 key from last night and i hit it all of 6 times lmao

[warm plinth]

Yeah storm shield is Blizzard's way of saying oh you wanted safeguard back? Well here's the tiniest absorb in the world as a fuck you

[lusty grotto]

it will work on fixates

[tribal wharf]

but i like the ability, maybe if i dont really use it as much as i think, i will change

[fiery lotus]

loyal worg ?

[lusty grotto]

it worked on fenryr, etc

you just cant predict those

so i dont ever talent it for keys

for raid, sure since it can help for uptime/mobility

[warm plinth]

Keep in mind though, if you do use it for a fixate (assuming you can block the fixate; some are coded to not be avoidable), if the person moves more than 10 yards from you, the intervene ends

[lusty grotto]

[fiery lotus]

That was primarily the reason I was wondering if intervene was even worth using, especially for no voice pugs cuz they keep moving away

[lusty grotto]

its not even recommended in #protection-faq or in the icy veins guide

[warm plinth]

If there's not like a specific mechanic that it's good for in a given season, I never take it

[lusty grotto]

on the keys builds

[tribal wharf]

its supposed to stop whoever i use it on from recieving an attack

[warm plinth]

Like I took it when we had HoV last time because it was good for Fenryr scent of blood, but don't think I've bothered with it since then

[tribal wharf]

so sometimes i might put it on healer w ho has aggro

[fiery lotus]

I haven't looked at either of those nimchip I will look into it

[solid sun]

That’s a good point actually. If you haven’t gone to icy veins for a build I definitely recommend doing that

[fiery lotus]

I have been using wowhead as a resource

[lusty grotto]

and any sharpshooters that delete people, both priory and if you did the archers in brackenhide

[lusty grotto]

this season we're using icy veins only

[warm plinth]

Wowhead's writer is a fill-in, so we recommend icy-veins instead, at least until we get a new wowhead writer

[solid sun]

I’ll do it

[warm plinth]

Do it

[keen wharf]

If I already have a myth Sword & Boots, and all my other gear is champ or hero what should I craft next?

[warm plinth]

Shield

[lusty grotto]

did you look at the pins?

[keen wharf]

no, will do now, sorry

[lusty grotto]

because boots was not the recommended 2nd craft

[undone beacon]

he might just have vault boots

[warm plinth]

Did he craft the boots

[solid sun]

Protecting your feet is high priority irl tbh

[lusty grotto]

oh i misread

[solid sun]

A hurt foot is such a pain

[drowsy comet]

feet? where

[warm plinth]

I WANT YOU TO CHANGE YOUR SOCKS, EVERY TIME WE STOP

Name that movie

[fiery lotus]

is that the gun army movie with the dead guy

and the bathroom

[warm plinth]

It is not Full Metal Jacket

[undone beacon]

Rocky 3

[warm plinth]

Idk what it says about me that I picked that up from that description, but it is what it is

[solid sun]

Gino

Gump

[warm plinth]

It is Forrest Gump, nice job Rhino

[fiery lotus]

That's 100% the movie I have only seen it once many years ago and it was either that one or forrest gump

[undone beacon]

I like my answer better

[warm plinth]

Isn't Rocky 3 the one with Dolph Lundgren

[undone beacon]

idk

[solid sun]

Where you live ghash, do you have bubba gump restaurants?

[warm plinth]

or is that 44

[undone beacon]

ive never seen em

[warm plinth]

I don't remember

4*

Oh, 3 is clubber lang

So dolph must be 4

[solid sun]

Yeah 3 is Mr t

[warm plinth]

I've seen one in a mall at some point years back

[solid sun]

They do Gump trivia

[warm plinth]

Never been to one though

[solid sun]

They used to ask hard af questions and give free dessert if you got it right

Idk if you can still get dessert now

[warm plinth]

DID YOU KNOW?: Forrest Gump and Jurassic Park both released the same year (1994). Forrest Gump had more CGI (and it wasn't close).

[warm plinth]

Or well, 1 year apart

w/e

[warm plinth]

What the hell am I looking at

[solid sun]

I didn’t know it had more cgi but Jurassic park was mostly animatronics and shit wasn’t it

[tribal wharf]

its a clubber fuck

[warm plinth]

Yeah, or costumes

[harsh trellis]

The t-Rex was real

[solid sun]

I knew it

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zs4yxkRI6U

[warm plinth]

Yeah it was an actual T-Rex

But yeah only about 5 minutes of Jurassic Park was CGI

[solid sun]

I like to think that T. rex comes back for each movie

[warm plinth]

XD

[solid sun]

The one character that is always in them all

[harsh trellis]

That was a good summer of movies

[warm plinth]

It's crazy some of the movies that never won awards just because of the movies that came out at the same time

[solid sun]

Do you remember the second Jurassic park

[lusty grotto]

the lost world? yes

[warm plinth]

I have only seen the first Jurassic Park and I think Jurassic World (not The Lost World; might have the name wrong)

[tribal wharf]

yeah 2nd one was shit comparison to first,

[solid sun]

The introduction of the tiny little swarm dinos was such a game changer.

I definitely underestimated those little dudes

[lusty grotto]

jp2 is jp: the lost world

[tribal wharf]

maytbe its 3rd im thinking of

[lusty grotto]

jp3 is jp3 (starring mr spinosaurus)

[harsh trellis]

Jurassic park... Schindler list, Mrs doubtfire, groundhog day nightmare before Christmas, cliffhanger, free willy

[tribal wharf]

one takes place in the city

[warm plinth]

The one with Chris Pratt

[tribal wharf]

and it sucks ass

[lusty grotto]

then jurassic world after that

[harsh trellis]

I worked at the theater in highschool that year as a protectionist

[solid sun]

Goldblum Park, Pratt Park, Johansson Park

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VsMRHEj2CE i had and beat this video game as a kid

[stray sonnet]

arcanoweave lining does not count as an embellishment correct?

[warm plinth]

It does

[harsh trellis]

You like retro games... play musha

[lusty grotto]

of course it does

[stray sonnet]

oh ok

[tribal wharf]

musha is amazing, yes

[lusty grotto]

again do not use wowhead

[tribal wharf]

i mostly like platformers

[lusty grotto]

use icy-veins

[tribal wharf]

action adventure games

[stray sonnet]

ok

[lusty grotto]

but the embelish crafts arent incorrect

[harsh trellis]

I just played chrono trigger for the first time last month. What an amazing game still today

[warm plinth]

It was recommended to craft the weapon with embellish early on because it was a bigger power gain than the weapon alone and you were limited on crafts.

But in the long run you want cloak/wrists with arcanoweave

[tribal wharf]

i like tons of weird janky games

about killing aliens and demons

[lusty grotto]

also we have a pinned list

[warm plinth]

I've only beaten uh

like 4 video games, ever

[lusty grotto]

which should match up with the icy-veins guide

[warm plinth]

Eh, maybe 6 or 7

but I've played a lot

And most of htem I don't beat

Because I'm shit at video games

[tribal wharf]

im not GOOD at video games, but im better than average player

[jagged pier]

same

[tribal wharf]

depends what it is

[fiery lotus]

The games he beat? Spyro 1-3 and Spyro on Wii

[warm plinth]

Nah too hard

(never played spyro though honestly)

[undone beacon]

I'm trying to play Lucid Blocks rn and im so confused

[fiery lotus]

Okay but actually the flying levels are annoying, and in the 1st game the jumping can be a pita

[warm plinth]

Super Mario 3, Super Mario World, Dying Light, Dying Light The Beast, and Dark Souls 1, 3, and Bloodborne I think are the only games I've ever beaten (at least, that I didn't eventually cheat in to finish)

Oh, The Last of Us. I forgot that one

[toxic pewter]

what about God of War

[tribal wharf]

hard as balls game from my child hood

beaten on real console, real crt, on hard mode

[fiery lotus]

No dragon age games on there, a shame

[warm plinth]

I played the first one but I honestly don't remember if I beat it or not

[tribal wharf]

completing that game on hard mode is about as hard as running a +15 key

you basically can only die once or twice or its over

[toxic pewter]

which game yogi

[tribal wharf]

one on the crt

100% if you try to play it you will be raging

[warm plinth]

One is a video game released for the Sony PlayStation in 1997. The player controls John Cain, a man who awakes with no memory and one of his arms replaced by a gun, through a series of three-dimensional action stages.

This is like the most 90s video game description ever ngl

[jagged pier]

oh like guns akimbo

[tribal wharf]

ya, i beat that one too recently via emulator

[jagged pier]

good film

[tribal wharf]

shitty controls

really really bad controls in the game

or well no i didnt beat it, cuz it was on easy mode

so no real ending, just a fake out

[warm plinth]

Does that mean Dying Light doesn't have a real ending

Because the final boss is a QTE

[dapper iris]

Hey Im doing 15s now. Should I start going for survivability trinkets like egg?

[lusty grotto]

youre a qte

[dapper iris]

or Solar core Ignitre?

[lusty grotto]

no, egg is mid

solar core is a good option yes, but that boils down to if you need it

and only you will know because gameplay can be subjective

[dapper iris]

Currently rocking these two

[warm plinth]

Tank trinkets are almost never required, even in the highest content. The exception is cheat death-style trinkets, which are more of a safety net than a necessity.

[dapper iris]

Ah gotcha

so i can just roll dps and chill?

[warm plinth]

Yerp

If a trinket is why you didn't die, you did something wrong

[lusty grotto]

if you feel that you need a solar core, use it

thats it

if you dont you dont

[dapper iris]

Just seen some high end prot warriors with either 1 so was curious

[lusty grotto]

they are doing 20s

youre doing a 15

[drowsy comet]

Do you guys use Drums in every dungeon or is it kinda overkill?

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean

[dapper iris]

fair enough haha

[lusty grotto]

do you mean lust?

[jagged pier]

egg also issnt defensive

[warm plinth]

Drums like lust drums?

[severe star]

I hate egg at this point

[drowsy comet]

yea these lust drums

[lusty grotto]

yes youre supposed to use lust as much as possible

[undone beacon]

Beloren egg isnt defensive? Or is there a different egg

[severe star]

but I never get trinkets so im stuck with it

[warm plinth]

If you have a lust, you don't use them. If you don't, then it's a good idea

[lusty grotto]

most routes have 3 lusts in them

but right, you just want a lust class

[jagged pier]

the shield will insta break and it has like a 7% uptime anyway

so it does nothing

[lusty grotto]

you only use drums like ghash said, if you dont havea a lust class

[warm plinth]

They are worse than bloodlust though, so you don't want to use them if there's a spell option

[undone beacon]

Oh yeah i mean its a shitty defensive lol

[lusty grotto]

x2

[warm plinth]

I'm a shitty defensive

gottem

wait

[drowsy comet]

3 lust? Ive mostly seen 2 lust in one dungeon

[undone beacon]

Does anyone know how big Heart of Ancient Hunger can make you at max?

Gotta size-max with that and colossus

Does it stack with col size boost?

[lusty grotto]

usually you lust first pull, then 2 more after that, thats 20 mins of lust

[undone beacon]

Important data is needed

[lusty grotto]

exhaustion is 10 mins

lust timings are very important for keys and routing

[drowsy comet]

do pugs know that lol

[tribal wharf]

no

[lusty grotto]

probably not in baby keys

[severe star]

just tell them when to lust

they ask usually

[coarse bay]

Over the years it’s become pretty standard amongst people that m+ regularly

[drowsy comet]

define baby keys

[severe star]

in lower keys

[lusty grotto]

anything under a 15

[tribal wharf]

@drowsy comet

[coarse bay]

There’s always something you can do or say before key start to set expectations and make the key smoother btw

[tribal wharf]

they thought i was skipping over a boss

[coarse bay]

If you dont, you have no reason to complain if something doesnt go your way that you couldve explained

[solid sun]

Macro a lust yell to shield slam. Then they’ll constantly be reminded. (Don’t do this)

[lusty grotto]

realistically, the only dungeon where you dont lust 1st pull is MT

because you do it on the 2nd pull

and that means the first pull (or 2nd pull) needs to be big

[severe star]

🤯

[daring marlin]

Doesn't even make you big it just gives you a lizard shadow

like around your character

[severe star]

it makes you larger

[drowsy comet]

Yea lust overrated anyway, who needs that, bro was saving it for next expansion

[daring marlin]

bzzzt wrong

[bright hedge]

Heart of hunger is not making me any bigger for some reason

[undone beacon]

wow what a scam

[solid sun]

Might need to see a doctor

[daring marlin]

because all it does is puts an aura thing in the shape of a lizard around you

[bright hedge]

Its bugged just give that blue lizard thing

Its supposed to make u bigger

[daring marlin]

It doesn't and never did make you bigger

[drowsy comet]

stop using tiktok slangs, you´re old smh my head

[bright hedge]

U can use a flask of giant growth in lower keys its fun

[undone beacon]

I mean the tooltip literally says it increases your size lol

[trail dome]

That's tragic I was here for the gains Pash ;_;

[undone beacon]

So not hard to see why people would think you'd get bigger

[lusty grotto]

if you wanna troll your group mates, you dont half ass it with a "flask of giant growth", you use these

[severe star]

dang you right

[drowsy comet]

whats that ugly thing

[severe star]

my eyes were mesmerized by the lizard

[daring marlin]

It sure does. I tested it on ptr and was like "huh?".

[undone beacon]

I hate blizzard tooltips

[bright hedge]

Flask of giant grwoth is not trolling, it is just cool and gives u 3 str too... what is this one?

[lusty grotto]

youre still trolling

putting a useless flask on you

[drowsy comet]

Whats the flask called?

oh nvm

[bright hedge]

Flasks are expensive u dont need a flask for a 6

[lusty grotto]

full ass trolling

[coarse bay]

Tbf i dont flask low keys so better than nothing

[drowsy comet]

This?

[solid sun]

Cam we have not joined forces in weeks

[coarse bay]

We havent

[bright hedge]

Requires event means we cant use right now?

[solid sun]

When are we slaying monsters again

[lusty grotto]

you just cant get more of them, i can certainly use it

[coarse bay]

Possibly this weekend, hopefully

[bright hedge]

Yes, this one, super cool and cheap

[ruby locust]

Okay I need help I’m 240 and I’m just getting blown over in keys. My group did a 10 no issue because geared healer but did a 7 and just fell over. I pulled with wall and avatar up and just ate shit. I don’t know if it’s just a lack of haste/ gear or what

[solid sun]

Pash told me to stop being a meta slave so I’m doing some bum ass leveling

[undone beacon]

If you have logs, that would help us point out how to improve

Sounds like a shield block uptime issue

[lusty grotto]

you wanna be big? you wanna be so big your fat ass makes looking at mechancs very hard for your group mates? then look no further, just send the tranquil mechanical yeti costume

only full ass, no "meh 3 str makes bigger" half-assery

[severe star]

if you want to be large change to rogue get the pick pocket glyph and do it to that one raid boss in cataclysm

[ruby locust]

I don’t know if we logged it but I always had block on cd

[solid sun]

Def sounds like a lack of shield block and maybe getting blasted from behind

[undone beacon]

You dont always want SB on CD

[lusty grotto]

on cd does not mean you're maintaining it

[drowsy comet]

i got bigger :o

[lusty grotto]

look your character up in WCL and see if you can find a log

[coarse bay]

you wanna be big? you wanna be so big your fat ass makes looking at mechancs very hard for your group mates? then look no further, just send the tranquil mechanical yeti costume

[undone beacon]

That means you're probably ending up with uptime gaps, which means unmitigated damage and turbo death

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[undone beacon]

you wanna be big? you wanna be so big your fat ass makes looking at mechancs very hard for your group mates? then look no further, just send the tranquil mechanical yeti costume

[drowsy comet]

lmao the mount gets big too xD

[drowsy comet]

my ass aint fat

[coarse bay]

What talents build are you using? Are you using HR?

[jagged pier]

dou ahve sb macro'd?

[drowsy comet]

jakey you okay?

[jagged pier]

mid key

[drowsy comet]

ah

[undone beacon]

stop discording mid key

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

hey only the best of us do it

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-blowing-up-cat-explosion-gif-6096353006687676670

[coarse bay]

I do it

[ruby locust]

Im not sure I just copied the build on murlok .io if im being real with ya

[lusty grotto]

oh boy

hes def ITF

[undone beacon]

Well theres another glaring issue

Dont do that

[lusty grotto]

and probably some really bad talenting if he did 1/4

[coarse bay]

Use icyveins build

100%

Grabbing from aggregate of the very top players doesnt work for almost anybody else

Theyre playing a different game. Different keys, comps, skill

And they are also sometimes just wrong and carried by skill

[drowsy comet]

You dont go ITF unless you have 1188 Haste (jakey pin this)

[undone beacon]

also i lost a ton of respect for murlok when they took the nice art people drew and ran them through AI filters and now they look like dogshit

wtf is this

[solid sun]

Is your warrior largejabber

[ruby locust]

I see I didn’t realize I’ve been playing brewmaster since last season I picked warrior up as a alt

[mighty valley]

did she have a stroke. she needs medical attention

[undone beacon]

she really does

[drowsy comet]

looks like AI did a shit job, thats an insult to every priest player

[dusky canopy]

I carry a largejabber in my pants

[mighty valley]

AI didn't do any kind of job because it's not a person

[ruby locust]

It be medium since it’s a belf 😄

[jagged pier]

[undone beacon]

I was curious so i went to murlok shadow priest and 1 person in the top 50 isnt running Psychic Link, what a chad

[dusky canopy]

[solid sun]

lol

[lusty grotto]

step 1: use the icy-veins talents
step 2: check the first pinned message on a very important talent swap related to SB uptime and haste rating
step 3: always face mobs, do not use SB on cd but do maintain it up when getting hit
step 4: search up your character in WCL and see if someone has logged one of your keys and we can look at it and tell you more specific advice

[solid sun]

I looked for mediumjabber on wclogs but I only found a brewmaster

[ruby locust]

I looked I didn’t have any but I’ll log my keys tonight if I don’t feel better with a dog talent build

[ruby locust]

That’s my main haha

[solid sun]

Nice

I see you’re a gamer

[ruby locust]

Eh.

[tribal wharf]

i asked ai art to make the new set armor for warriors in 12.1

[drowsy comet]

Sounds like an AI typed that

[tribal wharf]

came up with those, i like the top 2

[mighty valley]

hell yeah i love the warrmer tarimino

yogi every time you ask ai for something, you show us the most boring shit i've ever seen

[mighty valley]

genuinely offensive to all the fantasy artists this thing is stealing from

you're all allowed to say slop now

[undone beacon]

The Warrmer Tarimino is what they called me in college

[solid sun]

Was there a collder tarimino

[tribal wharf]

its not getting any better

[drowsy comet]

is this a knockoff from Warhammer?

[lusty grotto]

kinda wish AI shit was banned in this channel

[mighty valley]

"hey can i have some more dogshit" - yogi

[lusty grotto]

its not because i dont hate or like AI

but because of what Harrow said

[tribal wharf]

still boring

i told it it was boring

[mighty valley]

THEN STOP POSTING IT

[solid sun]

I’m headed back to the office to bid a new set of plans for a new builder but before I bid it I’m gonna take care of Harrow first. Gonna turn his whole day around

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stop-funnyanimal

[drowsy comet]

AI became just cringe, remember the first videos? Like Will Smith eating Spaghetti and stuff, that looked terrible, but what you can do now is just insane. So insane you have to question every picture or video, trailer what ever if its made from AI or not

AI deez nuts, take this AI

[solid sun]

Is that a mandalorian helmet

[tribal wharf]

sly wars

bottom right

[solid sun]

Any Star Wars experts in here

[mighty valley]

yeah it's bbbbbobbba ferrrrrrt from sly wars

[undone beacon]

Don’t engage with the ai slop rhino

[round cliff]

just looked at our pwars logs on voracious
284 rage wasted on a 17% wipe

skyhold grant me patience

[undone beacon]

wow woulda been a kill with 0 waste

Smh my damn head

[mighty valley]

every rage deals 1% boss damage

[round cliff]

it's true

[solid sun]

Harrow on a roll rn

Came in swinging for the fences

[maiden quiver]

Its hilarious how Blizzard will let issues that negatively affect players go for months without addressing, but when its something that can benefit players they swoop in instantly to fix it. Just saw they already hotfixed the cheese strat on the last boss of Maisara

[solid sun]

I didn’t even know there was a cheese strat

[round cliff]

there was cheese?

[undone beacon]

there was til wowhead posted about it

[toxic gyro]

You could attack at 5 stacks for like 20sec from behind the wall and kick last add super late refreshing into 6 stack and go past wall.

[lofty warren]

Is star wars still lame or has Disney realized the errors of its ways and they promise yo make it more closely match the originals. Less opinion and more explosions

[maiden quiver]

You could pull the boss so it was slightly outside the spirit barrier, hold up one of the adds and stay in the spirit realm, then right before the damage amp buff drops you kill the last add to refresh it at 6 stacks for the full duration

[mighty valley]

it's crazy how the only star wars thing they made since the last jedi was andor

you'd think they'd want to do more than that but they got restraint i guess

[solid sun]

Was the last Jedi the first or last movie of that trilogy

Force awakens was the first movie right

Then mandalorian wars or something and then last Jedi

[maiden quiver]

All you need to know about current Star Wars is the movies are trash and the shows range from pretty good to great

Andor is on par with OG star wars in quality

[undone beacon]

I've been a star wars disliker for forever

Just not my cuppa

[lusty grotto]

andor was fucking insanely good

[maiden quiver]

Thats cool, its not for everyone

[lusty grotto]

its so good it probably trascends star wars

[drowsy comet]

https://x.com/i/status/2045192248799924347 400 Trading Coins per set apparently, yes this sounds true @undone beacon

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HD Tier 2 Recolours Found for the Trading Post in Patch 12.0.5

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[lusty grotto]

ive also heard good things about the maul series

[maiden quiver]

Andor is in one of those weird spots where it doesnt even really need to be the star wars franchise. Its so good you could have made it an original IP

[solid sun]

Isn’t there a series with like an assassin trying to kill Jedi

[undone beacon]

thanks for having some kind of source

[lusty grotto]

agreed

[drowsy comet]

Any time little Padawan

[undone beacon]

Pashawan*

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-4048595941757682802

[solid sun]

And also an obi won series

[mighty valley]

My little Pashwari naan

Can we say this

[maiden quiver]

But at the same time it feels hard to say its the "best" Star Wars media, because its missing so much of what is iconic about the franchise

[drowsy comet]

Sounds like he won huehuehue

[lusty grotto]

i disagree here

[solid sun]

I think he does

[undone beacon]

I have no qualms that shit is good

[toxic gyro]

Most of those color combos are next level garbage. Peek blizzard design 💀

[undone beacon]

I think it’s kinda funny they did the T2 recolors for the anniversary and have just been giving us recolors every once in a while since

The OG, the Diablo colors, the new purple from void assaults, and a blue trading post one

[jagged pier]

thye may not come, i still remeber the red cloudsong glaive being datamined still not appeared yet

[lusty grotto]

i mean recolors are what Blizzards excels at

[undone beacon]

Give me recolors of the “class sets” they had on the trading post I liked those, even tho they weren’t full sets

[maiden quiver]

Its absolutely top tier, especially if you like the politcal part of star wars, and I think its fair to say that it transcends the Star Wars franchise. But it will never be the "best" Star Wars because it almost completely excludes anything related to the Jedi or the Force

[lusty grotto]

"hey just dye the shit, its a totally new appearance, teehee"

cost effective, no time investment needed, people gobble it up like idiots

[drowsy comet]

The red warrior set looks okay, kinda like an action figure. The Torquoise Judgement looks dope, but the purple sets overall look better ngl

[solid sun]

Dark souls Star Wars is sick

[drowsy comet]

The Blizzard way. They do this in Overwatch too, and I think even in Diablo 4

[lusty grotto]

those two topics do not need to be touched on every single SW media, especially one long years into the empire's establishment, people have forgotten about them, it makes sense

[drowsy comet]

Well D4Bad

[solid sun]

D4 is good

[lusty grotto]

andor into rogue one is well into OG SW's timeline, the universe forgot about them, and the force is still touched on in rogue one either way

[solid sun]

Rogue one was good

[lusty grotto]

sure was

[jagged pier]

yer but thats caus it was a war film

not a star wars film

[solid sun]

I wonder how that game was where you play as like an outlaw with a droid companion

[drowsy comet]

With Lord of Hatred it does look better yea. But before its like hot dogshit ngl. And I say that while having over 800 hours in that game

[maiden quiver]

Absolutely agree that they dont need to be included in every piece of the media. But its hard to call a show the best part of a franchise when it excludes the most iconic elements of the franchise

[drowsy comet]

man I should stop saying this shit, yall gonna make another copy pasta out of it

[solid sun]

Idk mate

I played the base game and had a great time with it

[lusty grotto]

i still disagree, it does not make sense to have jedi in that time period

sorry

[maiden quiver]

I dont think they should be included, or that they would fit in the story, and I never said they did.

[drowsy comet]

Its okay for what its meant to be, for the casual crowd and thats fine. But for the other part of the community its quite lackluster

2 nerds really arguing over Star Wars? damn

Ha Nerds

[lusty grotto]

as opposed to you blasting gifs while someone asks a legitimate question?

stay in your lane

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-no-gif-16925608232308805852

[solid sun]

The dude who played a game they think is dogshit for 800 hours

Talks shit to people discussing Star Wars

[drowsy comet]

[solid sun]

Is Okie

You’re still our lil gup

[drowsy comet]

I wil evolve into Big Gup when I reach 3k IO

[harsh trellis]

I still haven't watched the last 2 movies

I liked rogue one

[jagged pier]

dont bother

the shows are good tho

[drowsy comet]

Dont yea

[harsh trellis]

Oh I won't

I liked mando but hated book of fett

I am an og trilogy person

[drowsy comet]

Shows are pretty good yea, atleast have depth into them

[severe star]

acolyte exists

[harsh trellis]

I am interested in starfighter

[jagged pier]

i liked it

[drowsy comet]

Btw have u guys seen the street fighter movie trailer

[jagged pier]

yer its pogs

[harsh trellis]

The best street fighter movie is still the manga

[drowsy comet]

They mention Chun Li's thighs in the trailer, absolute poggers

[lofty warren]

I tried to watch the star wars a-suck-a show but it sucked too much

[drowsy comet]

https://youtu.be/Xt4X4FvXk2A?is=WWWr0UBW0xUNIpZX

[harsh trellis]

Is Johnny Knoxville guile?

[drowsy comet]

No idea who that is

oh and speaking of SF, another Mortal Kombat movie is coming too

[maiden quiver]

The best Street Fighter movie is the old animated series

Edit to say that what I meant by this is the Japanese one, not the American one

[jagged pier]

fucking lil gup is young

[drowsy comet]

https://youtu.be/72FH-e6jvnM?is=98nqU1CjxCLUJhmS

[harsh trellis]

The mk movie looks good this street fighter movie looks like trash

[drowsy comet]

No shit man, sorry I wasnt born before 2000

[harsh trellis]

Btw
. That's ed Boon behind the bar the guy who made mk

[lusty grotto]

how dare you insult Raul Julia's performance

[jagged pier]

[drowsy comet]

😔

[lofty warren]

Kid doesnt know who Johnny Knoxville is.. thats gotta be s tier bait that only a master can think of

[maiden quiver]

Oh, Im not, its just that his performance and the story behind it was the ONLY good thing about that movie

[lusty grotto]

this one looks fun at least

and that's all that matters

it knows exactly what it is too

[lofty warren]

https://youtu.be/nnWtt8MLSC8?si=5wh28YxdDpR05rCC

Enlighten yoself

[maiden quiver]

People shit on way too many movies without realizing this

[harsh trellis]

Ohhhhh its Cody rhodes

[drowsy comet]

Bro this bot...

Jackahhhhh is great

[harsh trellis]

And Jason mamoa as blanka

[drowsy comet]

jack ass

Wow that works

[lofty warren]

How to know what item to mega catalyst up to 299 ilvl? How many items can super buff item to 299?

[opal ledge]

weapons and trinkets only.
we are hoping shield will count as weapon for this.
if so, shield first, then weapon... then trinkets.
on trinkets i would upgrade heart of wind and solarfire prism (if u dont raid)
if u get myth track heart of hunger and gaze, prioritize those (maybe plume too, not sure)

one thing we still don't know is if crafted gear will go to 298 or 294

[tribal wharf]

tanking is so easy guys

just hit your taunt button

[opal ledge]

just bind thunder clap to your movement key, and get tough as nails to generate aggro, no taunt button required

if u die it's healer's fault

[tribal wharf]

godddd

i dont understand why there is more tanks guys!

[solid sun]

New street fighter movie looks fun

[tribal wharf]

all you have to do is hit your taunt and not put the cleave on us!

it's soooo easy.......

thats why im not the one doing it!

alrighty, roll a tank and have fun with it then

[lofty warren]

Thought it saw something that crafted would be eligible for max upgrade. How do you get lots of charges of max upgrade currency

[hidden goblet]

I just wanna say thank you for the tanking tips this morning(no really). I asked for some basic info, got it, and them some.

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-steve-carrell-not-funny-about-to-cry-gif-12374474350018488527

[warm plinth]

You look fun

Fuckin gottem

I'm sweaty and I haven't even gone to gym yet. Started deep cleaning my room now that I'm not shedding skin like a salt shaker

[solid sun]

lol

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-book-of-boba-fett-this-is-the-way-the-armorer-mandalorian-gif-25545276

[opal ledge]

is this better for NXP than the armor one?

[lusty grotto]

could be

but the armor one goes into str and parry

due to armored to the teeth

[opal ledge]

thats like 5 str, not a big loss i think

[lusty grotto]

its also not necessary for anything under 17

but 🤷‍♂️

the breakdown is 60% magical damage and 40% physical

from damage taken

including searing rend (which is physical)

while its dot is magical

but anything under a 17, you wont die to magic damage

you will die because, after using stuns and SR to prevent refreshing/stacking, the healer cannot clear heal absorbs

[lofty warren]

Im gonna take that for nexus i feel like im getting punished whenever im in there

[lusty grotto]

quick trivia, searing rend is blockable

[opal ledge]

i usually dont die there but i just did in a 14, on the left part

[lusty grotto]

usually thats just due to healers not being prepared for that side

at 14s they should def start knowing they need to help clear the heal absorbs and pump the tank

[lofty warren]

Which talent should be swapped for nexus?

Get the one for more magic dr. Which one to drop

I would like to drop a talent that has no impact for extra magic dr

[jagged pier]

thats not how our tree works

[lusty grotto]

i honestly wouldnt drop anything for lower than a 17

its not needed

[lofty warren]

Ok for 17+ what drop

[lusty grotto]

whatever has the least impact

[lofty warren]

😭 which one is that

[lusty grotto]

you'd have to sim i guess

[toxic pewter]

armor specialization is just better in the end

i need my 5 str

[lusty grotto]

it also depends on gear, i drop 13 str, 300 armor, and 20.42% parry to 20.37% so it can be a good swap

to go from armor spec to fttf

[lofty warren]

From archon alt build #1 for nexus

[fiery spindle]

archon

[lofty warren]

No bsv though

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats probably the swap you'd make

despite being archon'd

its not a stupid swap

[undone beacon]

Drop demo shout EZ

[fiery spindle]

🪗

I tried to type ez

got accordion

somehow

[lusty grotto]

🪗

[lofty warren]

Ez

Mine doesnt work

[dusky canopy]

I’d drop shield charge and heavy repercussions for execute talents

[undone beacon]

🪗

[fiery spindle]

I put a colon before it like you do with emotes

idk how ez translates to that

[lusty grotto]

🪗

[fiery spindle]

but here we are