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I don’t know how that works
You guys can be break the meta hero’s
Meta can sometimes be a fixed 5 specs, but usually some can be equally swapped
I mean there’s a meta forming but it might not be the final one. Meta spec usually means its a locked in pick
Like when exodia comp was a thing
Right now its pretty locked up but we will see
I like that Aug seems pretty balanced atm
Devourer and UDK are just SUPER GOOD
especially in high mob counts
And the Augvoker just makes them that much better
demo too
I havent ran with many locks but most udks i run with blow chunks
I usually beat em out as spriest lol
Top .1% AND Top 1% Breakdowns
Final week before 12.0.5, I foresee a potential further slant towards RDruid, and maybe more clarity on the DPS meta in the coming few weeks.
Sources: @RaiderIO_WoW and https://t.co/0AA8llQud6
I think I can see the meta in there
Unholy dk might be my candidate for 2nd most boring spec
They have to be good
most are terrible
True
Though aug is kinda like bm hunter for me. It's not exciting but it's chill
Sometimes you need the alt you can vibe on
aug is just there to make the udk/devourer/demo do more tho
aw well
I want a pocket augvoker
Idk anything about devourer though
Devo is fun imo
I think they have an ability called collapsing star
They do ludicrous mass AoE damage
at the end of the day idrc about title, but i do care about the 1% mount tho so
That's my knoeledge
like
Knowledge
ridiculous
Shadow can do great damage if the tank doesnt pull like a dummy (or if i use my tentacle slams very sparingly)
I know you can do it
I kinda wish that rain of fire talent changed the spell more
I have 2 shards. Should I go for hands next? They're still at champion level
Guil play affliction
just farm them
Farm seat
Bro I played with an affliction in a 12 and that guy did over 200k overall lmao
Need a lock for magisters anyway
The thing about survival is it has a pet
That always feels so iffy to me
I’d be the idiot pulling the dungeon with a haywire mouse
gotta build the best comp for warrior tank
Ok, sure. But what do I do with my sparks then lol
Im thinking Prot War+Ret+shaman
Mistweaver, warlock, dk, shaman
Here. Ret resto shaman 2 fury wars
yea, I like that
Get rid of the rogue
what about a feral druid?
I have a ww
They fall over if the wind hits them
Already 90
I could see frost mage also being a option
Boomkins and healer druids all day
Could swap the WW for an Enhance Shaman, and the Rsham for a MW/Rdruid
but rdruid is meta and that is stinky
I don’t have an enhance shaman
Dont forget dh but don't have them brrrrrr on last boss of seat off the rip or they die
no Dev DH
Hmmm
Prot war / Rsham / feral / WW / Hunter
Id do havoc though
That’s peak Prot war damage probably
Ww are strong
WW cranks
okay but drop the hunter and get a shadow priest (me) in there and I will PI the pwarr 
Really depends on the key also
If you ever pi’d the warrior over me I wouldn’t even be mad
Technically Hunter can be whatever I just tossed a mostly AP spec in there
Spriest could go there and toss pi on the WW
Actually omega value on the WW
I just need an excuse to worm my main rn into the comp
I don’t think ww is easy
What are WW CDs? They seem to do pretty good burst then fall off a cliff.
It is much easier
Haven't played the class in years.
Idk much just going off memory from buddy yapping about it the other day in keys
Captain planet
Is survival bis dual wielding
Or 2h
@undone beacon
Like by the end of the season which one is scaling better
Yeah but that means stampede
mmhm
I have not heard good things
Is top 1% one of those things where you can’t afford to be not optimal
Like if you’re already going off meta with the comp do you need to tighten up other choices
Probably not, no
top 1% is going to be do you have the willpower and the time to push up some keys
in TWW s3, Title was like 3950 and 1% was more around 3550
obv easier season now and new incentives so it'll prob be a bit higher
im in love with this pangolin toy
whoa didnt relize survival now has like preferred weapon types for hero specs lol
interesting
lol
im in as Healer i have power
I love you @naive ravine Just because I give you advice that you’re wasting your energy doesn’t mean I’m trying to disrespect your inner gangster
Do you want a hug

quick someone tell me whats going on here
thats a good answer yeah
No peaches are ass bro get with the times
have you seen a bottom
hey friends, picking up prot warrior pretty much for the first time. We are on the final 2 heroic bosses for this tier and it seems like there are some solid downtime windows and I am curious how much stance swapping really does in retail. I know it was bigger in classic but during beloran egg or L'ura intermission, should I swap over to berserker stance? (and even further - should I be doing this any time I'm not the active tank?)
LOL my man 🤝
Stance Dancing is more or less obsolete mechanic. If you want you can swap to battle stance when not actively tanking mobs in raid, but its usually safer to just sit in dstance the whole time unless you're trying to gigaparse
Stance dancing is usually like a minimal gain for parsing
Which can be fun to do on reclears
Very helpful and it's been fun to play around with it on earlier bosses and even parts of later fights like beloran egg - its not much tank damage so I can easily swap but the numbers felt pretty small and wanted to make sure it was a very minor impact.
Dstance with stance mastery is omega
it can also be good if you arent activley tanking
id rather be in dstance for any pulsing damage tbh
sure its not a lot (and for most players it isnt a big deal), but hey, on a prog boss when you are literally not tanking or taking damge it does increase damage
which could be the difference between a kill and a sad sub 1% wipe

simp
yea, dont you want to help your healers parse!
on a side note... you could be like me who was in B-Stance for reclear up to Mythic Salad
chad
when I started questioning why the tankbuster was hurting so bad xD
Sometimes you just wanna battle
@daring marlin Why does every UDK fucking suck bro
WHAT HAVE I BEEN SAYING
Inexplicably pressing buttons is hard for the average gamer
I dont know much about Unholy except this; they are VERY cooldown relient
Depending on the key level, it may just be too low for them to get their damage out
I dont give a shit, they play a meta class, they gotta perform well
Healing his ass wasnt fun
i notice a ton of DH just going poof in keys
he may be ass, but key level too low is a valid reason on why their damage is low
mage got a lot of defensives prunned
what the hell
Mages are incredibly squishy now
I LOVE MY HEALERS
and DH.... is it a Dev DH trying to keep stacks going?
can I spell reflect the heavens lance/impale on L'ura? It's comsic damage so I would think yes?
i have no idea lol
Devourer is definitely incentivized to stay in combat
i think it DRs but it doesnt reflect nor does it deflect
ngl having a good ret paladin is now my favorite party-mate never thought I woul say that
but their utility and damage so good
spreadsheet on all reflect stuff is in the pins
I often give people my sac

a Ret Paladin in like 12 key range is literaly SSS tier
yeah its incredible what a paladin can help me with
A lot of brewmasters need my sac ive noticed
i actually appreciate every sac and freedom
only thing i insist on is a shaman
Freedom is so big this season its crazy
people are still sleeping on Ret
See it's typed as magic damage but "?" on reflect, that suggest I get the DR but it doesn't bounce back like museless suggests?
Yur everything big
100%
i never want to think about or hear sac again 🙁
freedom giga this season
Im probably gonna do my io push on ret this season
like since u mentioned udk yesterday to me i jusst keep comparing them to a ret pala
As a priest, freedom is fantastic lol
correct; SR gives you the DR for the hit, but its not gonna reflect or deflect the spell
I think udk kit and damage is still better than ret in a good player’s hands
amazing, thank you and I appreciate the mention of that pinned spreadsheet! I'll have to check that out
Ret is just the perfect spec for pug keys
Just not many good udk
whether its for IO or weeklies
yeah udk seems like it has a high skill cap to me at least
great util for dungeons, durable, 30sec/1min damage CD
ret too to be fair
chains in seat? I got you
shitty aoe debuff in nexus? I got you
gargoyle in pit? I got you
frost debuff in pit? yep
and its not CD reliant
shield zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzq
it always has damage

LMAO 
30s or 1min builds are both fun af too
Hpal buff could probably bring another solid comp. It was already decent in m+ but got buffed because it was horrible in raid
lol wtf theres a 30 sec build
ive been trying to push the Ret Paladin dream
i didnt even know that was a thing
Legit think its prob the strongest 'non-meta' dps for M+
I might try to get a feather trinket for max key laziness
30 sec build is mid imo
Tank in trouble? I got you
DPS snap threats? I got you
Healer overwhelmed? I got you
Dont like it
interesting
unironically
WoG still owns
i basically quit tww over that video
dont want to play the key anymore? -> bop the tank
I got 3 Hero Feather Trinkets...
and still no heart on my druid bruh
Like not all tanks got BoP cancelaura macroed to every single rotational

i got the best feather trinket
back in the day you had to for what u call it
the keystone shit
wherte u get hit and stacks
and 50 is u cant be healed
that shit
Necrotic
Respectfully, fuck you.
Respectfully 
lmao🤣
bop would remove that and i had / have a macro's that says "bop me" and then "attempting to remove bop" with cancel aura
Member when Necrotic was magic? BDKs were laughin
My trinkets are poo
Sounds like your mastery is giga low
AMS always stopped the applications, and DRW made it a real laugh as it stacked up at a rate of 1 to never
I'll pug for a plume eventually
dude thats the thing though, i have similar mastery to crit
sim keeps saying mastery slightly stronger than crit
i think it has to do with tough as nails i think mastery helps it a lot or something
i dont even know
I wonder if people will pug mythic bird eventually
ToN is huge dam from mastery, yep
heroic 👀
Dont think sims even do ToN value tho
i should have a myth aln and heroic plume right now but i cursed myself
do they?
Kinda doubt it tbh
yeah no idea how sim does tan
as soon as you can onephase the bird on mythic its puggable
Necrotic used to be so easy as blood
Next season
Why did you just resay what I did

theif
reminiscing about the good ol days
They'll keep nerfing it
Jakey can try, but its Patriots Day weekend
we dont take kindly to the Brits in these parts
Necrotic as blood death knight used to be easy as pie
im starting to get into +16 is it really necessary to talent out of apex
No, it’s worse to ever talent out of it
My survival hunter is pretty strong because one of Nim's siblings is my pet. Would you grind out 1% with me @toxic pewter
ok good to know just seen on archon and lots of top warrior talenting out of it in their runs
Top 3 sure aren't
They're all 4/4
If you are starting to go into 16s, you have started to reach the level of content where you tailor it to your own preferences and others copy you

Ya they’re flexing the wrong points. The talents theyre picking up can be grabbed for a much smaller loss. The apex is very strong and not really replaceable on the tree
speaking of brits you guys see this funny shit?
>Mississippians looking down on the Europoors from their doublewide trailers
Quoting Polymarket (@Polymarket)
︀
JUST IN: New analysis reveals Brits thought the UK ranked 7th against US states in income per person — it actually ranked 51st.
lmao
I'm HOWLING
that guy owns
Why did he lick the bottle first?????
wish i was cool as him
you know why
gotta get the salt left by ur hand sweat
yea, I saw Plka was running our version of the 'def' build thats still 4/4
Absolutely pouring
1/4 noober moment
SPELLBREAKER DETECTED
not very funky kitty,,,
I REPEAT SPELLBREAKER DETECTED

Actually I live to all damage
Mods
Get good
I just did, mr slow thief reporter
8% of the time--- it works------ every time...
i dont think t hats entirely bad what i came up with
what are you trying to solve
I think losing the extra max rage for better def stance is worse than dmg
pain and gain sucks and so does second wind and field dressing is probably good
You have 1 too many capstone point
and then its , like dead end go to for either second wind or dressing
its like putting FBV on the path to take shield charge
Do you dislike aug

I've always thought aug was neato
Def getting hotfixed
You don’t play dps enough rhino
How come
Your details dmg not reflecting your personal dps
That’s next level of enlightenment
I've been shown the way
Im at boss dmg parsing level you are way ahead
If key gets timed, you did good boss
Yeah I'm over the whole damage number thing
I'll check logs
See how I did some oopsies
Try to fix
Keep it moving
Nobody is ever going to select me for their group because of how oppressively good I am at WoW
It is
thats the best part about tanking
once you get over the nerves/learning curve
you suddenly get to play the game on your own terms
Also
instead of hoping for an invite to a key... you pick what key you will grace with your presence
Learning routes to get to 100% exactly is fun
i get insta invited
i think its starting to get meta whorey now that im 3200
👑
but still
Give it another week and it'll go up higher
I like this. I think this is more peaceful.
Yeah rn every key is literally meta comp and the healer/tank is up for grabs to be w/e
For sure
This is a relaxing party game
If I wanna sweat I'll play dota 2
Until I'm told it's time to push for 1%
Then I'm going to be so super cereal
BIG NUMBERS
they should double crest drops
Don’t bring back bad memories.
Mid only death prophet
I was always a 5 and sometimes a 4, Nick
I only ever have bad memories
position 5 crystal maiden ready to feed
My god I can’t even imagine permanent 5. You deserve only the best vaults for your time in the trenches
Fuck THAT
Some dark times
I've seen enough, nerf revenge
Thanks to you guys helping me I have upgraded to tank with competency.
No
I’m a big fan and will follow your journey 
What's technically higher budget item between say neck and belt? Is it belt cause of the primary stat?
Ye, mainstat wins out in most cases, also armor is neato cheato, 0.2% free DR or so
I’m now a wow content creator
From zero to hero 1%
When do I get fans copying my builds and pooping on theorycrafters
I’ll copy your build
Also
I hope next major patch the prey system gets updated
And we become the prey sometimes
I hope to not need to touch it personally, but they should definitely update and improve it
I didnt enjoy all the things i felt forced to do on each character preseason
I think they should have a boost system
Where you can post like on a bulletin board
And someone else can do a chore for you for a gold cost
I’d farm so much gold
Prey system seems fine. Crest plus loot. What else needs to updated on it?
I’m not an alt player but the system is 100000% better from previous expansions
like what, fishing?
Cuties. All of you, cuties.
Like the three nightmare prey quest
Cam could hop on an alt and post a job bulletin for that quest
Someone could claim it and do it for them
Holy shit, pay me
Keeps up with their alts
Others who like doing that stuff have a reason to keep doing it
It’s a win win win
You da cutest
No u
You’ll never be me. You’ll never have something as incredible as bleed support
Just have a child and force them to gather herbs and mine for you
And tell them it’s a video game so it’s fun
This is the way
So basically you want a garrison mission table but with real people as the followers
Wait that’s a goated idea
This wowhead thing has so many words. Im just looking for "if ur pwar in NA and you get 3400 at the end of the season, what percent does that put you in for midnight s1"?
It would fail spectacularly for the same reason all free market endeavors of this type fail - it would be exploited by the rich and price out the poor
Nah sometimes people do it for the love of the game
Time 16s
Like all the people who craft my shit for free 
Time is finite, you’d literally just have top guilds showering gold to randos and all the normie posts would rot
See: crafting if you’d like an example
My favorite baseball movie
If you get 3400 midnight s1 does that put you in top 1 % for NA pwar at the end of the season?
No
why would that matter if it did?
It’s not by spec it’s just overall anyways
Nah you don’t realize it but the game is rigged - you think you’re competing but you’re riding a scooter and they’re in rocket ships, I’ll prove it
This
That whole article is about 0.1% and 1%. What % would you be at? Like 5%?
🤷♂️
That place where I put that thing that time
It sounds like a sliding adjustment
Like at the end of the season they will figure it out
After 3400 im going back to God of war in my downtime
Yeah Im prob done at 3400
Here you go @undone beacon, would you say that time investment is the differentiator between the market goblin weirdos and shit or do you think they’re filthy rich for other reasons
usually 1% isnt that hard tho if play the entire season
Why the heck does wowhead talk about the 1% if it isnt relevant doesnt make sense
I'm not even trying and I'm already top 1% waow
The 1% cutoff is already basically at 3400
Wait that’s right I have to go around and do the void forge quests 🙄
Top 1% likely going to be 18s and some 19s
With all the buffs might just be like 3500 by the end of the season
you didn't pick it up every week in voidstorm?
NA is so easy 
No didn’t even know about it
dang
I mean it’s a factor of time and skill. Some of the rich bastards make their money from selling carries, which is time and skill. Others optimize professions, which I’d argue is both as well. Just being a gatherbot is 100% time over skill. Why?
bro was too busy pumpin
I think it’ll be much more contested with rewards involved. It was 3515 tww s3 and id expect it to be 1-2 key levels closer to title range personally than it was
what if I told you that I spend 10 minutes a day to make basically infinite gold
I’m telling you bro I do not do the open world shit whatsoever unless i literally have to do it
Same
skinning is on the down
I didn’t know about void forge or I would have been doing it lol
I’d ask you to sell me your master course because I’m brokie
I started void forge yesterday lmao
You're probably right it'll be more competitive cause 1% is more reachable for people
Me too!
Yes EU one is already so close from me again 
What do you do dawg
its literallly a purple quest u always do the purple quest
And the only reason is because a guildy shared the quest at the start of raid
brainpower is on the up
Lmfao
It was 3-4 key levels below title last season, id expect only like 2 now but who knows
people make tons of gold, and outcompete the market which drives prices up for everone else because they have better tools and processes
very little to do with how much you play
I cleared raid then realized i couldve made progress if i had the quest
very much to do with how much you know
I wrote an ai assited market trend tool, i pull down ah data, run it for 10 mins, buy/flip my top opportunities, collect my gold
10 minutes a day
like I said, scooters and rocket ships
but it aint time
Took time to build the tool and gain the knowledge to leverage it
I use it on both retail and classic, but classic is a cash cow
yeah but if a relative amature like me can do it, what do you think people like liquid and shit can do with funding and actually smart people
I find the economy simulator aspect of wow to be even more unenjoyable than PvP
I don’t play wow to game markets and write scripts to calculate AH volatility
I just wanna hit buttons and do keys n shit
And if someone posted a bulletin for me to do their hunts for like, 1k gold then fuck it sure idc
At least I’m playing a game
no but you do suffer the consequence of that when you wanna buy an enchant and its 12000 gold because some guy with a better set of tools is flipping everything
then that guy posts his own hunts for 10k gold
are you doing the 1k ones or the 10k ones?
YES, TRUE, BASED
ur doin the 10k ones because thats better time to value ratio
Counterpoint, I go to my guild and go “heyyyy I need an enchantttt” and someone gives me one for free cuz we are all friends :)
all the plebs posting 1k hunts get left in the dust
What's a 1k hunt
thats not how wowmerica works!
People still craft my stuff when I give them a 1k tip
And not a 10k tip
like I get 100% what you mean
I found a guy that craft my stuff for 3k tip better than the spammers who ask for 10k
But that also gets way more into the MMO than the RPG than I care about tbh
yea but if a craft took an hour to complete do you think theyd do it for 1k?
They do it for 1k because they glance and go ahh yes that’s enough 0s
Probably, people crafted the shitty decay embers for me back in DF for 1k when they had to go to brackenhide to do it
They do it for 1k because im cute and sent a foot pic
high value imo
You underestimate people’s willingness to kill time

eventually when I quit wow forever I will release all of my tools
for free
and all of the wierd market cartel people will probably try to run me over with their cars or something
I mean I def thought I was cooking
tbh if I have to buy the mats your tip is a kiss on the cheek
If that means I don't get crafted gear then I'll be fine with hero track until I acquire myth track
Tbh I think they should just remove personal crafting and set up everything through public
Is this new from today patch note?
DUNGEONS AND RAIDS
MYTHIC+
New Feature: Lindormi's Glow – Lindormi's Glow highlights select enemy forces even when the Lindormi's Guidance affix is inactive. Defeating all highlighted enemies will complete the enemy forces requirement for a Keystone Dungeon.
It makes no sense trying to do it this way, they could literally just have all orders be public or guild, put a time limit on public orders to prevent bot scraping and then be done
Shit put a captcha on order claiming, crush the bots
That’s new to the season/expansion, not new right now. It is below key level 5 or 6 only
reread, its for all key level now
Interesting
Must be a new version of it
MDT dead? 
They should delete all mobs except for Lindormi's chosen
They shouldn't do that
But it would be funny a little bit
Dungeon genocide
They should just allow you to choose the packs yourself and it’d be perfect
I almost just copied what Fyver posted
ANd pasted it
But I overcame my maneuver
And spared you this day
fine Im looking up wowhead 
I dont think there is a wowhead page with full 12.5 notes
You can look at #updates-midnight for war 12.t changes
Blizzard just posted the compiled patch note and wowhead linked them in the past 10 minutes
That top one is new? Whats better m+ and raid mt vs col?
is there anything about first boss of magisters terrace that will cause it to spawn more balls than normal?
Oof fury getting slapped for m+ lol
No but if you have it positioned in a corner then it can spawn more balls
From the same place
According to updates-Midnight channel
Col more dps and more cdr???
So can hope blizz just forgot about it in offical notes
Colo isn't muuuuuuch worse than Thane right now so I imagine these buffs might overtake Thane in certain scenarios
so its yet another thing bugged
No it just removes a lot of options where they can spawn from
so they end up spawning on top of eachothe r
Lindormis Glow will definetly make routing easier, it always drove me crazy to remember a whole rout in certain dungeons
I often take him to the door and at most it spwans 3-4 balls
sounds like a bug to me.
if it doesnt work in the way it is intended
glitch the least i would say
Like I think it's because the balls spawns outside the room and can't enter through the walls? shrugs
They spawn 20 yds from the boss, if you remove a bunch of 20 yd surface area options
that's just intended mecahnics
if it was poor design they would have made it immovable or put him ina circular room like Vexamus
Just put its back right up to the entry way
Then you just have to grab balls from the left and right
I put him in the little gazeebos off to the side when it's ball time
its like when you get to the squid boss, you have all kinds of room to walk around
that boss is a bit more limited
well yea because you can't control 5 of the bosses in that fight
The first boss has a ton of room if you start puddles where he spawns
If you get more than 4 puddles before the boss dies you're cooked anyway cause the dps isn't doing their job
ya, just i dunno that feels really cheap as hell to me
Just time the key
and now its something i have to actively avoid
You don't really have to actively think about it
Just remember, knockback, pool, knockback, pool, corner time
That's why I always start him where he spawns
thats a big problem i have with the game overall
Knockback into wall
there is 10 billion things to remember
It's just repetition
The big robot?
its genuinely the only thing you have to remember
i'm gettin tired of rememberin it all
Dude its simple and you'll get it
Why is four puddles a wipe. That arena is huge
Because you'll go into a third cycle which means the dps sucks
most people (like me) also only clear out 1 gazeebo
so you don't have 60% of the room
Maybe if you were 4/4 apex it’d be faster
I don't even go to the gazebo
I was just doing a funny
if i have to get to the part where im making yog ms paint
I appreciate you
Yogi
invite this to your keys yogi and you’ll time them
Relax and just keep doing them. It will make sense
I don't even open keystone guru anymore
Yogi how come you don’t ever do keys with us
We do so many keys as a Skyhold squad nowadays
We can show you the way
So here's some magic
Im streaming my keys lately..... when I go to raider io... it shows my videos
.... how the heck is that even a thing
How does it know the twitch video im streaming at the time. Is skyhold
all is, i just know end of the day people are relying on the team to make it
and im part of the team
so i would prefer not let them down if its possible, but yet it is inevitable in some cases
I had a monk do that once and that's how I've been doing it since. goated
Do the gazebos block the orbs
You'll be even tankier 4/4
I like it cuz the orb spawns are more predictable
He’s been given reasons for apex, not gonna convince him if he hasnt already been
I'm havin' a giggle
LET ME LIVE MY LIFE CAM GAWL

Well, with the Lindormis Glow, I think I commit myself to be fully tanking now. Glad they made that, rare W Blizzard 
@jagged pier @oblique garnet let my message through I put effort into that pep talk
gets muted for pinging mods

what?
what's that?
Idk what even tripped the auto mod
I will just post a screenshot if I have to
Ban evasion
Oh can you not see automate deleted messages
The curse word.
Fucking?
colossus gonna be pretty tasty on tuesday
Full curse word.
Basically Lindormis Guidance but as an actual feature now, no matter what key level it is. You talk to Lindormi, and can activate it as Tank
Oh
You’re pretty tasty today
just today?
I get around
that sounds good to me tbh
I know 
some tanks even higher up ones want some cues for routing
You are the mf team you’re the tank you put the team on your back. You don’t let them down, they let you down. You’re the big dog in the pound. You’re the needle in the mother fucking haystack. You’re the Tom Brady in a sea of high schoolers. You’re the GOAT, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Mfs talk about walking a mile in someone else’s shoes, they can’t even put your shoes on without looking like goddamn clowns. YOU ARE A MOTHER FUCKING PROTECTION WARRIOR. SHOW THEM YOUR RAGE.
wow I just had to add a space between mother and fucking

wat the hell is this
lmao
But the moment has passed so now it looks dumb
that is how everyone reacts to alpha tank
My problem always was remembering the route. This anxiety was driving me crazy. Pretty glad its an feature now
yes
Now type some special slurs in, the automod will like it so much 
im not vupera anymore lol
It made me very sad to see
me pango warr now
We have to update the copypasta now
lmfao
I saw that toy. that looks fantastic. does it work in dungeons too?
THATS how I expect people to look like who play Vulpera (looking at you apb
)
Holy 👀
i getting all the respect i never got as little fox
Dem eyes god damn
yes from collecting all treasures in zul'aman and can use it in keys yes
lasts 60 min, 10 min cd
Ive never tried it. should I switch to it to get used to the rotation now?
getting laughed at, surely a matter of respect
lol
Yeah, i got the void one that works like that, voidstorm toy makes you have a shadowform-ish aura and cool back piece for an hour, 50minute CD timer.
i have been laughed at, spit on.. each instance made me stornger
it may or may not be better, dps will be close though. if they end up being very close it would be the first season i can remember where they ever have a choice.
to answer your question directly there isnt really a rotation, unless you count revenge x infinity rotation
nothing changes from thane really with the exception of more revenge, less clap
CUZ BABY TONIIIIIGHT
THE CREEPERS TRY AND STEAL ALL OUR STUFF AGAIN
I mean with MT i prioritize Tclap and line up my avatar with big claps. do I do the same but line up avatar with big revenges or are they not tied together as Col? Ive never looked at it tbh.
VDH seeing some pretty cool buffs actually, overall the tank balance looks really good besides Prot Pal and BDK
Huh
you almost never want to hold avatar in any spec
Bdk is literally better than vdh
Kira sbeen doing some 19s and 20s as vdh. its kind of dumb lmao. Prot pal is fun as fuck but it so much effort for what you get.
unless you are sure its not going to cost you an avatar cast across a fight/instance its almost never a dps win to hold cds
is Col lower apm than MT or about same?
tanks are generally balanced fine right now
Yea hes #1 VDH too from what Ive seen. Watching him alot, even using his UI lol
its really just Brew has better surv vs. the field
either bring the other tanks to that level
in my experience about the same, you press IP more as thane but its ogcd so
They prolly gonna nerf Brew, in no world they will buff 5 specs
War best tank
theyve done it before
they are not. Brew needs a whack or everyting needs to be up there with it, otherwise I agree everything else is fine. Prot pal could use some of the armor they lost back so they dont fall over when outside of cds
everyone outside of brew I'd say is close
that was the second part
I’ve played brew

I really don’t feel like it’s that insane
I love my prot pal, its probably my favorite or second favorite, but it feels like im playing FFXIV when I play him cause in FFXIV you rotate cds constantly.
I love the pango toys. Had a friend ask "Is this your new look?"
Genuinely feel better on my warrior
@daring marlin is prot pal squishy or nah
wait is there more than one toy or wat lol
Prot pal is
ppl saying pwarr "flops over" are playing brew in low keys 
Yes he is
The death statistics speak for themselves lmao
@daring marlin before you answer, yes im running sentinel. People who run crit wings and complain about prot pal squishy are dumb dumbs
If you're shit, sure
Ppal is like a balloon in a fields of nails
There you have it
Most tank specs are fine, paladin could use help
Shitty ppals are squishy
Im just excited to Colossus tank again
sentinel is busted your damage will suffer
i like demolish WHILE TANKING
Naa i added s by mistake
my argument is that they could use a little armor buff for when cds are down. Thats all. they're still "fine"
oh ok hah was wondering if im missing one
The level at which they are no longer "fine" is a level that most people will never get to.
Nah I don’t think a design that requires you to have a massive rotation of defensive CDs just to face tank what other tanks can do with their active mitigation is ok
while also self-healing with WoG.
wog being on the gcd feels so bad lmao
Yeah no reason for WoG to be on gcd
my prot pally is kinda screwed with haste and that spec genuinely feels like a humiliation ritual to play
It’s just not a fun spec
Don’t we all rotate CDs
You can get a similar toy out of Blinding Vale that makes you a saptor
Not like pally does lol
Hasn’t that been like a staple of pwar gameplay forever
Send CDs and get them back fast
Sounds like SotR and Cons uptime are shit if you're getting blown up outside CDs
I mean not even trying to be sarcastic
prot pally has to rotate their cheat death and dshied into theri standard defensive rotation
its really sad
Sending CDs and spacing them out for coverage are not the same
It genuinely sounds like you described us
Yo did anyone else see the Lindormis guidance change, seems huge for tanking in general
ohh i gotta get that
its unavailable rn
Until S2 you get one shot a week per character
I have 100% uptime on sotr and conc, HP still feels like a blood dk
Oh wait yeah you can’t do M0 for nonseason anymore
dang i def dont have it yet
Sadgers
conc doesn't do anything anymore
defensively
well it heals you
but the 10% dr is gone
But we cant get it currently, afaik its a drop in mythic difficulty which we cant access while its out of rotation
I'm shocked i didn't get it during pre-season. I ran M0 on so many chars
Isn't there a talent that puts some DR back on conc?
These are always so funny to look at
Didnt brew get a nerf in this patch? Theyre nerfing a talent responsible for a large portion of self healing. Not sure if itll be enough
I can just repeat this dumb void forge weekly right..
until I’m caught up?
it won't be, they'll still be hard meta
I believe so, yes.
Just keep picking it up after dungeons imo
Yeah you can repeat it
Hard meta is dumb with tanks. There is almost always 1-2 other tanks that are good too, it’s just that a lot of top tanks multiclass and will just play the stronger one
I did it twice last week
you won't get invited
Okay that’s good, so how many things is it per quest?
Three
that's the diference between meta and good
In above title keys maybe
Sweet thanks for info my goats
is brew actually that much tankier than prot warr i swear i feel pretty tanky (except giga bleeds)
Pugging title keys is already a rough world
He doesn’t play brew
Debatable imo
It isnt as crazy as the statistics would lead people to believe
People are still invested in brew is all
wasnt there literaly graph that said we die the 2nd least in raids or some crap
All they really did was make brew easier to play now and gave it some self heal
I think bears are still crazy
i swear i saw it
People off meta all the time, like i said its just that top players multiclass
But brew tank+druid healer for comp
I bet bear druid+MW is actually a good contender atm
I mean tbh I’d rather have MW if I had to pick a monk spec in keys over brew
Hence them getting a fat nerf tuesday(mw)
hpal bear will probably become goated after patch
I could see that. Also slight armor increase to prot pally could maybe be good.
didn't disc get gutted in dungeons?
Honestly brew is a lot tankier
Its not. its barely a slap on the wrist.
i heard they will be
Main change I'd like to see on prot pally is wog ogcd
We going back to S2 of TWW
But war has so much in their kit to reduce stuff
No
My tinfoil hat reason it's not ogcd is cuz of holy and blizz sucks
The main thing is the majority of tank busters are dodge-able
They basically killed voidweaver but shields from disc are about to be TWW S2 levels again

So monks can avoid entire “big damage” events. Same ones are not able to be parried
Ok but this has been the case since like ever, you could do this in SL etc.
is the MT damage nerf that substantial compared to live MT overall? I know its big for the tclap damage, but is it big overall?
Most was not able to be dodged
there is no MT nerf
The nerf was reverted
only Col buff
Oh wait, really? and colussus still buffed?

Yup
wtf i missed that. when
fury kept it but they got rid of it for us
Big momma busters were able to be parried 
Oh shit ok. daddy warrior coming back. I was worried about it.
was fury even running thane?
Yes
You can go in the monk discord and look up dodge forcing for several keys
So it looks like you get 2 rerolls a week, so two M+ rolls or one raid roll
Ya
wrong
fury didnt keep the nerf
none of the thanes were affected
You buy one pity roll at a time so it would take two weeks of taking tokens to get a bonus raid roll
And if you get shit vault loot, you get another reroll!
I feel like it’s going to be very hard to justify rolling in raid unless you’re mythed out aside from a specific trinket, and even then
if you take currency
You can get one reroll token yeah, so half a raid reroll
Hi guys, quick question. Does anyone have tips on managing the healing debuff on the left side trash of nexuspoint? Currently running the dungeon on 15/16 keys and i feel like im getting blasted
That’s not what wowhead says
and he's the GOAT
Do you have a log?
right here #updates-midnight
dont get hit by ground aoes, stun and reflect to make it fade, otherwise its a healer problem
Yeah but they made it into the official patch notes for fury posted by blizzard today
Perma ligma routes
yeah im aware
no log from the run I just did unfortunately, forgot to combatlog activate
im pretty pumped about the roll system
Companies make errors in official patch notes all the time, including Blizzard. Expect a correction at some point
yeah my healer literally said it might be a him problem, but I still wanted to see if it was something I could avoid. Since its applied on melee hits im not sure what else to do other than cc and kite some
Myth Chim is literally huge value for all my toons
Hmmmm
The roll system will let me target my trinkys in raid and gear up alts uber fast
i mentioned what you can do
stun and reflect
yep, thats in the rota
has somebody compiled a list of "blizz approved" routes?
Yea and the reversion notes called out prot specifically, whereas the official notes today call out fury as being nerfed explicitly
Guess we’ll see
You guys ready for the auto routing to pick the absolute worst fucking mobs known to man
I’m excited
Think archi said it was confirmed an old note
Expected outcome
blizz approved route that makes you pull every single hex guardian in maisara
Doomercell
I mean, chim drops 4 things for shadow and right now three would be big ups
what are they dooming about
we got a pretty hype buff announced so everyone is happy
So I probably throw it at chim each week unless i get natty drops
huh what buff
That top one is new?
oh you mean people are just reading patch notes?
colo got some numbers and better cooldown reduction on demolish
the first part is new and the compensatory thane nerfs are gone
yes that we knew about since last week
Not everyone perpetually online reading every wowhead article buddy.
unfortunate
nice to see it in the official note and not a #subjecttochange ptr note
If they were about the same and col got even more buffs? Does that mean it is bis now?
For both m+ and st?

So, how is the weather at your place?

