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warm plinth
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Crazy that aug actually managed to make a comeback

solid sun
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I don’t know how that works

dusky canopy
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You guys can be break the meta hero’s

warm plinth
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Meta can sometimes be a fixed 5 specs, but usually some can be equally swapped

coarse bay
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I mean there’s a meta forming but it might not be the final one. Meta spec usually means its a locked in pick

undone beacon
warm plinth
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Like when exodia comp was a thing

undone beacon
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Right now its pretty locked up but we will see

solid sun
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I was just looking at Jordan’s stats

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Did you guys see that

daring marlin
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I like that Aug seems pretty balanced atm

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Devourer and UDK are just SUPER GOOD

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especially in high mob counts

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And the Augvoker just makes them that much better

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demo too

undone beacon
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I havent ran with many locks but most udks i run with blow chunks

coarse bay
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Locks pump

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Bigly

undone beacon
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I usually beat em out as spriest lol

solid sun
dusky canopy
warm plinth
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Unholy dk might be my candidate for 2nd most boring spec

daring marlin
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most are terrible

coarse bay
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Literally the 3 specs in the running rn for dps meta are boring

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Udk, devourer, aug

warm plinth
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True

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Though aug is kinda like bm hunter for me. It's not exciting but it's chill

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Sometimes you need the alt you can vibe on

daring marlin
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aug is just there to make the udk/devourer/demo do more tho

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aw well

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I want a pocket augvoker

warm plinth
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Idk anything about devourer though

solid sun
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Devo is fun imo

warm plinth
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I think they have an ability called collapsing star

daring marlin
undone beacon
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at the end of the day idrc about title, but i do care about the 1% mount tho so

warm plinth
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That's my knoeledge

daring marlin
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like

warm plinth
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Knowledge

daring marlin
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ridiculous

solid sun
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I really want 1%

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I’ve never even come close to pushing that hard

undone beacon
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Shadow can do great damage if the tank doesnt pull like a dummy (or if i use my tentacle slams very sparingly)

warm plinth
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I know you can do it

dusky canopy
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Rhino, you can totally achieve that

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Start grinding

daring marlin
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I kinda wish that rain of fire talent changed the spell more

dawn lintel
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I have 2 shards. Should I go for hands next? They're still at champion level

dusky canopy
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Guil play affliction

unkempt hazel
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just farm them

dusky canopy
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Bro I played with an affliction in a 12 and that guy did over 200k overall lmao

harsh trellis
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Need a lock for magisters anyway

daring marlin
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I would play demo sooner

solid sun
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The thing about survival is it has a pet

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That always feels so iffy to me

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I’d be the idiot pulling the dungeon with a haywire mouse

plush tendon
dawn lintel
plush tendon
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Im thinking Prot War+Ret+shaman

harsh trellis
plush tendon
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eh, I dont like that

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I want a melee cleave comp

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not reliant on CDs

harsh trellis
undone beacon
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Pwarr, Rsham, WW, Ret, Outlaw

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Gaming

plush tendon
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yea, I like that

harsh trellis
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Get rid of the rogue

plush tendon
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what about a feral druid?

harsh trellis
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Feral druids suck

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Paper

solid sun
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I have a ww

harsh trellis
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They fall over if the wind hits them

plush tendon
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well I 100% want a ret and shaman in my comp

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I love Ret Paladins

solid sun
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Already 90

plush tendon
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I could see frost mage also being a option

harsh trellis
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Boomkins and healer druids all day

undone beacon
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Could swap the WW for an Enhance Shaman, and the Rsham for a MW/Rdruid

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but rdruid is meta and that is stinky

solid sun
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I don’t have an enhance shaman

harsh trellis
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Dont forget dh but don't have them brrrrrr on last boss of seat off the rip or they die

plush tendon
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no Dev DH

dusky canopy
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Hmmm
Prot war / Rsham / feral / WW / Hunter

plush tendon
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Id do havoc though

dusky canopy
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That’s peak Prot war damage probably

solid sun
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Okay I’ll gear up my ww

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Brew told me to

harsh trellis
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Ww are strong

dusky canopy
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WW cranks

undone beacon
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okay but drop the hunter and get a shadow priest (me) in there and I will PI the pwarr peepo

harsh trellis
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Really depends on the key also

solid sun
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If you ever pi’d the warrior over me I wouldn’t even be mad

dusky canopy
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Technically Hunter can be whatever I just tossed a mostly AP spec in there

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Spriest could go there and toss pi on the WW

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Actually omega value on the WW

undone beacon
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I just need an excuse to worm my main rn into the comp

solid sun
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I don’t think ww is easy

daring marlin
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What are WW CDs? They seem to do pretty good burst then fall off a cliff.

dusky canopy
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It is much easier

daring marlin
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Haven't played the class in years.

dusky canopy
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80 second cd

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Two charges

solid sun
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Didn’t they lose their fkn

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Planeteer elementals

dusky canopy
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Idk much just going off memory from buddy yapping about it the other day in keys

solid sun
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Storm earth and fire

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That thing

harsh trellis
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Captain planet

solid sun
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Is survival bis dual wielding

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Or 2h

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@undone beacon

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Like by the end of the season which one is scaling better

undone beacon
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Right now Pack Leader is tuned better so we're DW

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PL = DW
Sentinel = 2H

solid sun
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Yeah but that means stampede

undone beacon
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mmhm

solid sun
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I have not heard good things

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Is top 1% one of those things where you can’t afford to be not optimal

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Like if you’re already going off meta with the comp do you need to tighten up other choices

undone beacon
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Probably not, no

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top 1% is going to be do you have the willpower and the time to push up some keys

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in TWW s3, Title was like 3950 and 1% was more around 3550

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obv easier season now and new incentives so it'll prob be a bit higher

toxic pewter
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im in love with this pangolin toy

toxic pewter
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interesting

drowsy comet
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ah hell nah a UDK..

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will watch this guy closely

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...

toxic pewter
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lol

daring marlin
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sorry

drowsy comet
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im in as Healer i have power

solid sun
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I love you @naive ravine Just because I give you advice that you’re wasting your energy doesn’t mean I’m trying to disrespect your inner gangster

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Do you want a hug

dusky canopy
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Lmao

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Bro tags em an hour later

coarse bay
solid sun
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Hey I extended an olive branch after the fact

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So he can feel cozy

dusky canopy
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That guy might not prefer olive branches bro

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Maybe he’s a peach kind of guy

solid sun
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I didn’t wanna do it too soon

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Are peaches for peace

undone beacon
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quick someone tell me whats going on here

solid sun
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Harvest moon’s reenactment of this gif

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Did I win

undone beacon
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thats a good answer yeah

dusky canopy
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No peaches are ass bro get with the times

solid sun
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lol

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Why are peaches ass dude

urban bane
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have you seen a bottom

jade crane
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hey friends, picking up prot warrior pretty much for the first time. We are on the final 2 heroic bosses for this tier and it seems like there are some solid downtime windows and I am curious how much stance swapping really does in retail. I know it was bigger in classic but during beloran egg or L'ura intermission, should I swap over to berserker stance? (and even further - should I be doing this any time I'm not the active tank?)

dusky canopy
solid sun
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You didn’t say they were asses plural

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You said it singular

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Like they poopy

undone beacon
solid sun
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Stance dancing is usually like a minimal gain for parsing

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Which can be fun to do on reclears

jade crane
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Very helpful and it's been fun to play around with it on earlier bosses and even parts of later fights like beloran egg - its not much tank damage so I can easily swap but the numbers felt pretty small and wanted to make sure it was a very minor impact.

dusky canopy
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Dstance with stance mastery is omega

urban bane
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i like to see the icons change above my character's head so i stance dance

plush tendon
round cliff
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id rather be in dstance for any pulsing damage tbh

plush tendon
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sure its not a lot (and for most players it isnt a big deal), but hey, on a prog boss when you are literally not tanking or taking damge it does increase damage

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which could be the difference between a kill and a sad sub 1% wipe

plush tendon
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yea, dont you want to help your healers parse!

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on a side note... you could be like me who was in B-Stance for reclear up to Mythic Salad

daring marlin
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chad

plush tendon
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when I started questioning why the tankbuster was hurting so bad xD

royal marten
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Sometimes you just wanna battle

drowsy comet
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@daring marlin Why does every UDK fucking suck bro

daring marlin
royal marten
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Inexplicably pressing buttons is hard for the average gamer

plush tendon
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Depending on the key level, it may just be too low for them to get their damage out

drowsy comet
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Healing his ass wasnt fun

tribal wharf
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i notice a ton of DH just going poof in keys

plush tendon
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he may be ass, but key level too low is a valid reason on why their damage is low

tribal wharf
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just instantly deleted

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mages too

plush tendon
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mage got a lot of defensives prunned

round cliff
coarse bay
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Mages are incredibly squishy now

round cliff
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I LOVE MY HEALERS

plush tendon
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and DH.... is it a Dev DH trying to keep stacks going?

jade crane
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can I spell reflect the heavens lance/impale on L'ura? It's comsic damage so I would think yes?

tribal wharf
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i have no idea lol

solid sun
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Devourer is definitely incentivized to stay in combat

urban bane
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i think it DRs but it doesnt reflect nor does it deflect

tribal wharf
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all i know is the ppl on my team do stuff

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i dont think about any of it

toxic pewter
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ngl having a good ret paladin is now my favorite party-mate never thought I woul say that

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but their utility and damage so good

plush tendon
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spreadsheet on all reflect stuff is in the pins

plush tendon
toxic pewter
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yeah its incredible what a paladin can help me with

coarse bay
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A lot of brewmasters need my sac ive noticed

toxic pewter
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i actually appreciate every sac and freedom

urban bane
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only thing i insist on is a shaman

coarse bay
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Freedom is so big this season its crazy

toxic pewter
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even lay on hands can be key saving

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its wild

plush tendon
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people are still sleeping on Ret

jade crane
# plush tendon

See it's typed as magic damage but "?" on reflect, that suggest I get the DR but it doesn't bounce back like museless suggests?

coarse bay
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Yur everything big

daring marlin
tribal wharf
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i never want to think about or hear sac again 🙁

daring marlin
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freedom giga this season

coarse bay
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Im probably gonna do my io push on ret this season

toxic pewter
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like since u mentioned udk yesterday to me i jusst keep comparing them to a ret pala

undone beacon
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As a priest, freedom is fantastic lol

plush tendon
coarse bay
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I think udk kit and damage is still better than ret in a good player’s hands

jade crane
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amazing, thank you and I appreciate the mention of that pinned spreadsheet! I'll have to check that out

plush tendon
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Ret is just the perfect spec for pug keys

coarse bay
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Just not many good udk

plush tendon
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whether its for IO or weeklies

toxic pewter
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yeah udk seems like it has a high skill cap to me at least

plush tendon
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great util for dungeons, durable, 30sec/1min damage CD

toxic pewter
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ret too to be fair

daring marlin
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chains in seat? I got you

shitty aoe debuff in nexus? I got you

gargoyle in pit? I got you

frost debuff in pit? yep

toxic pewter
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yeah paladin just wild in these keys

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its almost like wrong not to have one

plush tendon
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and its not CD reliant

round linden
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shield zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzq

plush tendon
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it always has damage

undone beacon
drowsy comet
daring marlin
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30s or 1min builds are both fun af too

coarse bay
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Hpal buff could probably bring another solid comp. It was already decent in m+ but got buffed because it was horrible in raid

toxic pewter
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lol wtf theres a 30 sec build

plush tendon
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ive been trying to push the Ret Paladin dream

toxic pewter
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i didnt even know that was a thing

plush tendon
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Legit think its prob the strongest 'non-meta' dps for M+

daring marlin
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I might try to get a feather trinket for max key laziness

coarse bay
cerulean tusk
coarse bay
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Dont like it

toxic pewter
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interesting

daring marlin
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WoG still owns

tribal wharf
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i basically quit tww over that video

rotund thicket
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dont want to play the key anymore? -> bop the tank

drowsy comet
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and still no heart on my druid bruh

cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
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i got the best feather trinket

tribal wharf
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the keystone shit

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wherte u get hit and stacks

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and 50 is u cant be healed

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that shit

cerulean tusk
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Necrotic

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
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lmao🤣

tribal wharf
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bop would remove that and i had / have a macro's that says "bop me" and then "attempting to remove bop" with cancel aura

coarse bay
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Apb i want a plume too

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Please

daring marlin
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Member when Necrotic was magic? BDKs were laughin

coarse bay
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My trinkets are poo

toxic pewter
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yah i am happy with the plume

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sim saidd to put it mastery

daring marlin
cerulean tusk
daring marlin
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I'll pug for a plume eventually

toxic pewter
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dude thats the thing though, i have similar mastery to crit

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sim keeps saying mastery slightly stronger than crit

cerulean tusk
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Also, meld = king vs necrotic

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Nelf win again

toxic pewter
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i think it has to do with tough as nails i think mastery helps it a lot or something

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i dont even know

daring marlin
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I wonder if people will pug mythic bird eventually

cerulean tusk
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ToN is huge dam from mastery, yep

rotund thicket
cerulean tusk
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Dont think sims even do ToN value tho

toxic pewter
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i should have a myth aln and heroic plume right now but i cursed myself

cerulean tusk
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do they?

coarse bay
toxic pewter
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yeah no idea how sim does tan

rotund thicket
plush tendon
coarse bay
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Next season

plush tendon
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Parry from DRW into AMS to reset stacks

cerulean tusk
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theif

plush tendon
cerulean tusk
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Reported for being a bad actor

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Jakey will have his way with you, scum

daring marlin
plush tendon
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Jakey can try, but its Patriots Day weekend

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we dont take kindly to the Brits in these parts

coarse bay
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Necrotic as blood death knight used to be easy as pie

sullen dagger
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im starting to get into +16 is it really necessary to talent out of apex

coarse bay
solid sun
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My survival hunter is pretty strong because one of Nim's siblings is my pet. Would you grind out 1% with me @toxic pewter

toxic pewter
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yah

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we gotta get 1%

sullen dagger
daring marlin
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They're all 4/4

cerulean tusk
coarse bay
daring marlin
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speaking of brits you guys see this funny shit?

toxic pewter
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lmao

daring marlin
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I'm HOWLING

toxic pewter
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that guy owns

solid sun
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Why did he lick the bottle first?????

toxic pewter
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wish i was cool as him

cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
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gotta get the salt left by ur hand sweat

dusky canopy
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The liquid comes out faster when you lick

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Duhhh

cerulean tusk
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wadner So, how is the weather at your place?

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I do love me some weather

plush tendon
dusky canopy
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Absolutely pouring

plush tendon
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very cool

cerulean tusk
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Man, I forgot I am using this

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10/10

dusky canopy
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1/4 noober moment

toxic pewter
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SPELLBREAKER DETECTED

mighty valley
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not very funky kitty,,,

toxic pewter
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I REPEAT SPELLBREAKER DETECTED

cerulean tusk
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You guys just jelly, you die to DoT

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I live

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8% of the time

coarse bay
plush tendon
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@cerulean tusk

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explain yourself

dusky canopy
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Actually I live to all damage

coarse bay
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Mods

dusky canopy
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Get good

cerulean tusk
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I just did, mr slow thief reporter

toxic pewter
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8% of the time--- it works------ every time...

solid sun
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Cat doesn't even use that build

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Cat is playing fury and blood

tribal wharf
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i fixed the warrior talent tree

cerulean tusk
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worst cook ever

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get out

solid sun
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Ideally

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You level a new warrior and never use any talents at all

tribal wharf
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i dont think t hats entirely bad what i came up with

mighty valley
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what are you trying to solve

sharp gale
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I think losing the extra max rage for better def stance is worse than dmg

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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pain and gain sucks and so does second wind and field dressing is probably good

sharp gale
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You have 1 too many capstone point

tribal wharf
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and then its , like dead end go to for either second wind or dressing

sharp gale
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You need to give up 30 max rage talent

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I don’t approve this heresy

tribal wharf
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its like putting FBV on the path to take shield charge

drowsy comet
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nevermind you need an Aug in your party

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screw that

solid sun
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Do you dislike aug

sharp gale
solid sun
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I've always thought aug was neato

daring marlin
sharp gale
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You don’t play dps enough rhino

solid sun
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How come

sharp gale
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Your details dmg not reflecting your personal dps

solid sun
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I don't even have damage meters anymore, boss

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Useless

sharp gale
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That’s next level of enlightenment

solid sun
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I've been shown the way

sharp gale
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Im at boss dmg parsing level you are way ahead

undone beacon
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If key gets timed, you did good boss

solid sun
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Yeah I'm over the whole damage number thing

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I'll check logs

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See how I did some oopsies

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Try to fix

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Keep it moving

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Nobody is ever going to select me for their group because of how oppressively good I am at WoW

dapper iris
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man tanking is so fun

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im glad i picked it up

harsh trellis
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It is

dapper iris
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200 more io till mount

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also I get to play the game more often which is a win win

plush tendon
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thats the best part about tanking

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once you get over the nerves/learning curve

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you suddenly get to play the game on your own terms

harsh trellis
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Also

plush tendon
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instead of hoping for an invite to a key... you pick what key you will grace with your presence

dapper iris
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Warrior is just so much fun too

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yeah

harsh trellis
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Learning routes to get to 100% exactly is fun

dapper iris
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i get insta invited

harsh trellis
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You will up to 15

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Then its hit and miss

dapper iris
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i think its starting to get meta whorey now that im 3200

coarse bay
dapper iris
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but still

harsh trellis
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Give it another week and it'll go up higher

outer willow
dapper iris
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Yeah rn every key is literally meta comp and the healer/tank is up for grabs to be w/e

solid sun
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This is a relaxing party game

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If I wanna sweat I'll play dota 2

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Until I'm told it's time to push for 1%

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Then I'm going to be so super cereal

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BIG NUMBERS

daring marlin
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they should double crest drops

outer willow
daring marlin
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more should drop from dungeons

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shit's ass

solid sun
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I was always a 5 and sometimes a 4, Nick

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I only ever have bad memories

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position 5 crystal maiden ready to feed

outer willow
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My god I can’t even imagine permanent 5. You deserve only the best vaults for your time in the trenches

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Fuck THAT

solid sun
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Some dark times

cerulean tusk
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Demolish buffs when?

undone beacon
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I've seen enough, nerf revenge

cerulean tusk
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I better grab that 4/4 talent setup tho

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to minmax that dam

coarse bay
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Just waiting for the day i get carried by rhino

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Problem is, i dont have enough gold

solid sun
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You do all the carrying

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You're so much better than me

digital frigate
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Thanks to you guys helping me I have upgraded to tank with competency.

coarse bay
coarse bay
fallow fern
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What's technically higher budget item between say neck and belt? Is it belt cause of the primary stat?

cerulean tusk
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Ye, mainstat wins out in most cases, also armor is neato cheato, 0.2% free DR or so

solid sun
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I’m now a wow content creator

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From zero to hero 1%

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When do I get fans copying my builds and pooping on theorycrafters

coarse bay
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I’ll copy your build

solid sun
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Also

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I hope next major patch the prey system gets updated

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And we become the prey sometimes

coarse bay
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I hope to not need to touch it personally, but they should definitely update and improve it

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I didnt enjoy all the things i felt forced to do on each character preseason

solid sun
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I think they should have a boost system

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Where you can post like on a bulletin board

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And someone else can do a chore for you for a gold cost

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I’d farm so much gold

lament osprey
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Prey system seems fine. Crest plus loot. What else needs to updated on it?

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I’m not an alt player but the system is 100000% better from previous expansions

fringe mural
warm plinth
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Cuties. All of you, cuties.

solid sun
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Like the three nightmare prey quest

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Cam could hop on an alt and post a job bulletin for that quest

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Someone could claim it and do it for them

lament osprey
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Holy shit, pay me

solid sun
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Keeps up with their alts

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Others who like doing that stuff have a reason to keep doing it

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It’s a win win win

solid sun
warm plinth
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No u

waxen frigate
waxen frigate
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And tell them it’s a video game so it’s fun

cerulean tusk
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This is the way

frosty mango
lofty warren
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-attainable-are-the-new-keystone-myth-and-umbral-champion-achievements-in-12-381237

This wowhead thing has so many words. Im just looking for "if ur pwar in NA and you get 3400 at the end of the season, what percent does that put you in for midnight s1"?

frosty mango
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It would fail spectacularly for the same reason all free market endeavors of this type fail - it would be exploited by the rich and price out the poor

undone beacon
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Nah sometimes people do it for the love of the game

daring marlin
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I am an ogre

undone beacon
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Like all the people who craft my shit for free peepo

frosty mango
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Time is finite, you’d literally just have top guilds showering gold to randos and all the normie posts would rot

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See: crafting if you’d like an example

warm plinth
lofty warren
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If you get 3400 midnight s1 does that put you in top 1 % for NA pwar at the end of the season?

daring marlin
undone beacon
frosty mango
daring marlin
lofty warren
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That whole article is about 0.1% and 1%. What % would you be at? Like 5%?

undone beacon
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🤷‍♂️

warm plinth
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That place where I put that thing that time

harsh trellis
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It sounds like a sliding adjustment

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Like at the end of the season they will figure it out

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After 3400 im going back to God of war in my downtime

sharp gale
dapper iris
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Yeah Im prob done at 3400

frosty mango
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Here you go @undone beacon, would you say that time investment is the differentiator between the market goblin weirdos and shit or do you think they’re filthy rich for other reasons

dapper iris
#

usually 1% isnt that hard tho if play the entire season

lofty warren
#

Why the heck does wowhead talk about the 1% if it isnt relevant doesnt make sense

daring marlin
#

I'm not even trying and I'm already top 1% waow

sharp gale
#

The 1% cutoff is already basically at 3400

dusky canopy
#

Wait that’s right I have to go around and do the void forge quests 🙄

#

Top 1% likely going to be 18s and some 19s

dapper iris
#

With all the buffs might just be like 3500 by the end of the season

daring marlin
jagged pier
dusky canopy
daring marlin
undone beacon
daring marlin
#

bro was too busy pumpin

coarse bay
frosty mango
dusky canopy
#

I’m telling you bro I do not do the open world shit whatsoever unless i literally have to do it

dusky canopy
#

I didn’t know about void forge or I would have been doing it lol

undone beacon
coarse bay
#

I started void forge yesterday lmao

dapper iris
dusky canopy
sharp gale
jagged pier
#

its literallly a purple quest u always do the purple quest

dusky canopy
#

And the only reason is because a guildy shared the quest at the start of raid

frosty mango
dusky canopy
#

Lmfao

coarse bay
frosty mango
#

people make tons of gold, and outcompete the market which drives prices up for everone else because they have better tools and processes

#

very little to do with how much you play

coarse bay
frosty mango
#

very much to do with how much you know

dusky canopy
#

Yeah I was told we can do catch up so it isn’t a big deal

#

Just annoying

frosty mango
#

I wrote an ai assited market trend tool, i pull down ah data, run it for 10 mins, buy/flip my top opportunities, collect my gold

#

10 minutes a day

#

like I said, scooters and rocket ships

undone beacon
#

Yeah but that’s literally skill

#

And I am dumb

frosty mango
#

but it aint time

undone beacon
#

Took time to build the tool and gain the knowledge to leverage it

frosty mango
#

I use it on both retail and classic, but classic is a cash cow

coarse bay
#

Roid is way too smart

frosty mango
undone beacon
#

I find the economy simulator aspect of wow to be even more unenjoyable than PvP

#

I don’t play wow to game markets and write scripts to calculate AH volatility

#

I just wanna hit buttons and do keys n shit

#

And if someone posted a bulletin for me to do their hunts for like, 1k gold then fuck it sure idc

#

At least I’m playing a game

frosty mango
#

then that guy posts his own hunts for 10k gold

#

are you doing the 1k ones or the 10k ones?

daring marlin
frosty mango
#

ur doin the 10k ones because thats better time to value ratio

undone beacon
frosty mango
#

all the plebs posting 1k hunts get left in the dust

lofty warren
#

What's a 1k hunt

undone beacon
#

People still craft my stuff when I give them a 1k tip

#

And not a 10k tip

#

like I get 100% what you mean

lofty warren
#

I found a guy that craft my stuff for 3k tip better than the spammers who ask for 10k

undone beacon
#

But that also gets way more into the MMO than the RPG than I care about tbh

frosty mango
dusky canopy
#

They do it for 1k because they glance and go ahh yes that’s enough 0s

undone beacon
coarse bay
#

They do it for 1k because im cute and sent a foot pic

frosty mango
undone beacon
#

You underestimate people’s willingness to kill time

coarse bay
frosty mango
#

eventually when I quit wow forever I will release all of my tools

#

for free

#

and all of the wierd market cartel people will probably try to run me over with their cars or something

solid sun
#

tbh if I have to buy the mats your tip is a kiss on the cheek

#

If that means I don't get crafted gear then I'll be fine with hero track until I acquire myth track

frosty mango
#

Tbh I think they should just remove personal crafting and set up everything through public

plain iron
#

Is this new from today patch note?
DUNGEONS AND RAIDS
MYTHIC+
New Feature: Lindormi's Glow – Lindormi's Glow highlights select enemy forces even when the Lindormi's Guidance affix is inactive. Defeating all highlighted enemies will complete the enemy forces requirement for a Keystone Dungeon.

frosty mango
#

It makes no sense trying to do it this way, they could literally just have all orders be public or guild, put a time limit on public orders to prevent bot scraping and then be done

#

Shit put a captcha on order claiming, crush the bots

coarse bay
plain iron
#

reread, its for all key level now

solid sun
#

Must be a new version of it

drowsy comet
#

MDT dead? deadge

solid sun
#

They should delete all mobs except for Lindormi's chosen

#

They shouldn't do that

#

But it would be funny a little bit

dusty ruin
#

Dungeon genocide

coarse bay
#

They should just allow you to choose the packs yourself and it’d be perfect

drowsy comet
#

im too lazy to look up the patch notes can anyone send the link here

solid sun
#

I almost just copied what Fyver posted

#

ANd pasted it

#

But I overcame my maneuver

#

And spared you this day

drowsy comet
#

fine Im looking up wowhead sadge

lofty warren
#

I dont think there is a wowhead page with full 12.5 notes

plain iron
#

Blizzard just posted the compiled patch note and wowhead linked them in the past 10 minutes

lofty warren
#

That top one is new? Whats better m+ and raid mt vs col?

tribal wharf
#

is there anything about first boss of magisters terrace that will cause it to spawn more balls than normal?

frosty mango
#

Oof fury getting slapped for m+ lol

frosty mango
frosty holly
#

According to updates-Midnight channel

lofty warren
#

Col more dps and more cdr???

frosty holly
#

So can hope blizz just forgot about it in offical notes

lofty warren
brisk cloud
#

Colo isn't muuuuuuch worse than Thane right now so I imagine these buffs might overtake Thane in certain scenarios

tribal wharf
brisk cloud
#

No it just removes a lot of options where they can spawn from

#

so they end up spawning on top of eachothe r

drowsy comet
#

Lindormis Glow will definetly make routing easier, it always drove me crazy to remember a whole rout in certain dungeons

frosty holly
#

I often take him to the door and at most it spwans 3-4 balls

tribal wharf
#

sounds like a bug to me.

#

if it doesnt work in the way it is intended

#

glitch the least i would say

frosty holly
#

Like I think it's because the balls spawns outside the room and can't enter through the walls? shrugs

brisk cloud
#

They spawn 20 yds from the boss, if you remove a bunch of 20 yd surface area options

#

that's just intended mecahnics

tribal wharf
#

poor design i think then

#

not enough room

#

theme for many bosses

brisk cloud
#

if it was poor design they would have made it immovable or put him ina circular room like Vexamus

tribal wharf
#

i think its poor game design on some level

#

map isnt right, or mechanic isnt right

harsh trellis
#

Then you just have to grab balls from the left and right

brisk cloud
#

I put him in the little gazeebos off to the side when it's ball time

tribal wharf
#

its like when you get to the squid boss, you have all kinds of room to walk around

#

that boss is a bit more limited

brisk cloud
#

well yea because you can't control 5 of the bosses in that fight

harsh trellis
#

The first boss has a ton of room if you start puddles where he spawns

#

If you get more than 4 puddles before the boss dies you're cooked anyway cause the dps isn't doing their job

brisk cloud
#

I did a 3 cycle the other day and I skipped clearing out a gazeebo

#

that was SCARY

tribal wharf
#

ya, just i dunno that feels really cheap as hell to me

harsh trellis
#

Just time the key

tribal wharf
#

and now its something i have to actively avoid

harsh trellis
#

Stop thinking

#

That's not why you play prot war

brisk cloud
#

You don't really have to actively think about it

#

Just remember, knockback, pool, knockback, pool, corner time

harsh trellis
#

That's why I always start him where he spawns

tribal wharf
#

thats a big problem i have with the game overall

harsh trellis
#

Knockback into wall

tribal wharf
#

there is 10 billion things to remember

harsh trellis
#

It's just repetition

solid sun
#

The big robot?

brisk cloud
#

its genuinely the only thing you have to remember

tribal wharf
#

i'm gettin tired of rememberin it all

harsh trellis
#

Dude its simple and you'll get it

solid sun
#

Why is four puddles a wipe. That arena is huge

harsh trellis
brisk cloud
#

most people (like me) also only clear out 1 gazeebo

#

so you don't have 60% of the room

solid sun
#

Maybe if you were 4/4 apex it’d be faster

harsh trellis
#

I don't even go to the gazebo

solid sun
#

Okay I’m sorry

#

That was uncalled for

#

It made me smile tho

harsh trellis
#

Im still runnin1 and timing 15s now

#

I'll probably go more tanky the higher I go

solid sun
#

I was just doing a funny

harsh trellis
#

Yesh

#

And

tribal wharf
#

if i have to get to the part where im making yog ms paint

harsh trellis
#

I appreciate you

tribal wharf
#

fore every single boss

#

and every single trash pack

#

ya

harsh trellis
#

Yogi

solid sun
#

Arms invite this to your keys yogi and you’ll time them

harsh trellis
#

Relax and just keep doing them. It will make sense

#

I don't even open keystone guru anymore

solid sun
#

Yogi how come you don’t ever do keys with us

#

We do so many keys as a Skyhold squad nowadays

#

We can show you the way

harsh trellis
#

So here's some magic

#

Im streaming my keys lately..... when I go to raider io... it shows my videos
.... how the heck is that even a thing

#

How does it know the twitch video im streaming at the time. Is skyhold

tribal wharf
#

all is, i just know end of the day people are relying on the team to make it

#

and im part of the team

#

so i would prefer not let them down if its possible, but yet it is inevitable in some cases

daring marlin
solid sun
#

Do the gazebos block the orbs

daring marlin
daring marlin
coarse bay
#

He’s been given reasons for apex, not gonna convince him if he hasnt already been

daring marlin
#

LET ME LIVE MY LIFE CAM GAWL

coarse bay
drowsy comet
#

Well, with the Lindormis Glow, I think I commit myself to be fully tanking now. Glad they made that, rare W Blizzard peepoHappy

waxen frigate
#

@jagged pier @oblique garnet let my message through I put effort into that pep talk

ionic fern
jagged pier
#

what?

coarse bay
#

Keep the message away

#

If it got auto modded i dont wanna see it

waxen frigate
waxen frigate
drowsy comet
coarse bay
#

Ban evasion

waxen frigate
ionic fern
waxen frigate
frosty mango
#

colossus gonna be pretty tasty on tuesday

ionic fern
drowsy comet
# daring marlin what's that?

Basically Lindormis Guidance but as an actual feature now, no matter what key level it is. You talk to Lindormi, and can activate it as Tank

waxen frigate
#

Oh

solid sun
#

You’re pretty tasty today

frosty mango
solid sun
#

I get around

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
#

some tanks even higher up ones want some cues for routing

waxen frigate
#

You are the mf team you’re the tank you put the team on your back. You don’t let them down, they let you down. You’re the big dog in the pound. You’re the needle in the mother fucking haystack. You’re the Tom Brady in a sea of high schoolers. You’re the GOAT, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Mfs talk about walking a mile in someone else’s shoes, they can’t even put your shoes on without looking like goddamn clowns. YOU ARE A MOTHER FUCKING PROTECTION WARRIOR. SHOW THEM YOUR RAGE.

waxen frigate
#

wow I just had to add a space between mother and fucking

drowsy comet
waxen frigate
#

But the moment has passed so now it looks dumb

toxic pewter
#

that is how everyone reacts to alpha tank

drowsy comet
dusky canopy
#

||Mother fucking|| is my specialty

#

I cannot believe that isn’t auto modded

dusky canopy
#

But if you say it without a space and use er it’s banned

#

Hello KEKW

drowsy comet
undone beacon
toxic pewter
#

me pango warr now

undone beacon
#

We have to update the copypasta now

toxic pewter
#

lmfao

paper coral
drowsy comet
toxic pewter
#

I swear since i pango i time eveyr key

#

no lie

#

ppl respect the pango

toxic pewter
#

i getting all the respect i never got as little fox

drowsy comet
#

Dem eyes god damn

toxic pewter
#

lasts 60 min, 10 min cd

paper coral
drowsy comet
toxic pewter
#

lol

paper coral
toxic pewter
#

i have been laughed at, spit on.. each instance made me stornger

frosty mango
#

nothing changes from thane really with the exception of more revenge, less clap

waxen frigate
paper coral
drowsy comet
#

VDH seeing some pretty cool buffs actually, overall the tank balance looks really good besides Prot Pal and BDK

solid sun
#

Huh

frosty mango
solid sun
#

Bdk is literally better than vdh

paper coral
frosty mango
#

unless you are sure its not going to cost you an avatar cast across a fight/instance its almost never a dps win to hold cds

paper coral
plush tendon
#

tanks are generally balanced fine right now

drowsy comet
plush tendon
#

its really just Brew has better surv vs. the field

#

either bring the other tanks to that level

frosty mango
plush tendon
#

or nerf brew down to our level

#

my pref is buffs

drowsy comet
solid sun
#

War best tank

plush tendon
paper coral
plush tendon
#

that was the second part

chilly brook
#

I’ve played brew

plush tendon
chilly brook
#

I really don’t feel like it’s that insane

paper coral
#

I love my prot pal, its probably my favorite or second favorite, but it feels like im playing FFXIV when I play him cause in FFXIV you rotate cds constantly.

frosty holly
chilly brook
#

Genuinely feel better on my warrior

solid sun
#

@daring marlin is prot pal squishy or nah

toxic pewter
chilly brook
#

Prot pal is

drowsy comet
drowsy comet
chilly brook
#

The death statistics speak for themselves lmao

paper coral
#

@daring marlin before you answer, yes im running sentinel. People who run crit wings and complain about prot pal squishy are dumb dumbs

daring marlin
drowsy comet
#

Ppal is like a balloon in a fields of nails

solid sun
#

There you have it

chilly brook
#

Most tank specs are fine, paladin could use help

solid sun
#

Shitty ppals are squishy

sharp mesa
#

Im just excited to Colossus tank again

daring marlin
#

sentinel is busted your damage will suffer

sharp mesa
#

i like demolish WHILE TANKING

frosty holly
paper coral
toxic pewter
paper coral
#

The level at which they are no longer "fine" is a level that most people will never get to.

chilly brook
paper coral
brisk cloud
#

wog being on the gcd feels so bad lmao

chilly brook
#

Yeah no reason for WoG to be on gcd

brisk cloud
#

my prot pally is kinda screwed with haste and that spec genuinely feels like a humiliation ritual to play

chilly brook
#

It’s just not a fun spec

solid sun
#

Don’t we all rotate CDs

undone beacon
chilly brook
solid sun
#

Hasn’t that been like a staple of pwar gameplay forever

#

Send CDs and get them back fast

daring marlin
solid sun
#

I mean not even trying to be sarcastic

brisk cloud
#

prot pally has to rotate their cheat death and dshied into theri standard defensive rotation

#

its really sad

chilly brook
solid sun
#

It genuinely sounds like you described us

green osprey
#

Yo did anyone else see the Lindormis guidance change, seems huge for tanking in general

brisk cloud
#

its unavailable rn

undone beacon
chilly brook
undone beacon
#

Oh wait yeah you can’t do M0 for nonseason anymore

toxic pewter
#

dang i def dont have it yet

undone beacon
#

Sadgers

brisk cloud
#

conc doesn't do anything anymore

#

defensively

#

well it heals you

#

but the 10% dr is gone

coarse bay
frosty holly
#

I'm shocked i didn't get it during pre-season. I ran M0 on so many chars

coarse bay
#

Oh i was scrolled up didnt see it get mentioned

frosty holly
daring marlin
#

These are always so funny to look at

coarse bay
#

Didnt brew get a nerf in this patch? Theyre nerfing a talent responsible for a large portion of self healing. Not sure if itll be enough

dusky canopy
#

I can just repeat this dumb void forge weekly right..
until I’m caught up?

brisk cloud
#

it won't be, they'll still be hard meta

daring marlin
#

Just keep picking it up after dungeons imo

solid sun
#

Yeah you can repeat it

coarse bay
solid sun
#

I did it twice last week

brisk cloud
#

you won't get invited

dusky canopy
#

Okay that’s good, so how many things is it per quest?

solid sun
#

Three

brisk cloud
#

that's the diference between meta and good

coarse bay
#

In above title keys maybe

dusky canopy
#

Sweet thanks for info my goats

toxic pewter
#

is brew actually that much tankier than prot warr i swear i feel pretty tanky (except giga bleeds)

solid sun
#

You won’t get invited to what lol

#

APB gets invited to stuff

coarse bay
#

Pugging title keys is already a rough world

chilly brook
solid sun
#

He doesn’t play brew

toxic pewter
#

yah i mean i do 16 aa just now

#

i 3 17s

coarse bay
daring marlin
#

People are still invested in brew is all

toxic pewter
#

wasnt there literaly graph that said we die the 2nd least in raids or some crap

chilly brook
#

All they really did was make brew easier to play now and gave it some self heal

daring marlin
#

I think bears are still crazy

toxic pewter
#

i swear i saw it

coarse bay
#

People off meta all the time, like i said its just that top players multiclass

daring marlin
#

But brew tank+druid healer for comp

#

I bet bear druid+MW is actually a good contender atm

chilly brook
#

I mean tbh I’d rather have MW if I had to pick a monk spec in keys over brew

daring marlin
#

Hence them getting a fat nerf tuesday(mw)

brisk cloud
#

hpal bear will probably become goated after patch

chilly brook
#

Nah

#

Disc priest

#

Gonna be new meta

daring marlin
brisk cloud
#

didn't disc get gutted in dungeons?

gentle acorn
#

Honestly brew is a lot tankier

paper coral
brisk cloud
#

i heard they will be

daring marlin
#

Main change I'd like to see on prot pally is wog ogcd

chilly brook
#

We going back to S2 of TWW

gentle acorn
#

But war has so much in their kit to reduce stuff

chilly brook
daring marlin
#

My tinfoil hat reason it's not ogcd is cuz of holy and blizz sucks

gentle acorn
#

The main thing is the majority of tank busters are dodge-able

chilly brook
#

They basically killed voidweaver but shields from disc are about to be TWW S2 levels again

gentle acorn
#

So monks can avoid entire “big damage” events. Same ones are not able to be parried

chilly brook
paper coral
#

is the MT damage nerf that substantial compared to live MT overall? I know its big for the tclap damage, but is it big overall?

gentle acorn
plush tendon
#

there is no MT nerf

solid sun
#

The nerf was reverted

plush tendon
#

only Col buff

paper coral
#

Oh wait, really? and colussus still buffed?

plush tendon
solid sun
#

Yup

paper coral
#

wtf i missed that. when

brisk cloud
#

fury kept it but they got rid of it for us

coarse bay
#

Big momma busters were able to be parried sadge

plush tendon
#

yea, get rekt Fury

#

go play Arms like a man

paper coral
#

Oh shit ok. daddy warrior coming back. I was worried about it.

brisk cloud
#

was fury even running thane?

coarse bay
#

Yes

chilly brook
undone beacon
#

So it looks like you get 2 rerolls a week, so two M+ rolls or one raid roll

coarse bay
#

Ya

lusty grotto
#

fury didnt keep the nerf

#

none of the thanes were affected

undone beacon
#

You buy one pity roll at a time so it would take two weeks of taking tokens to get a bonus raid roll

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

I feel like it’s going to be very hard to justify rolling in raid unless you’re mythed out aside from a specific trinket, and even then

daring marlin
#

if you take currency

undone beacon
umbral ember
#

Hi guys, quick question. Does anyone have tips on managing the healing debuff on the left side trash of nexuspoint? Currently running the dungeon on 15/16 keys and i feel like im getting blasted

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

but its what Archi says

#

and we trust Archi

fringe mural
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
undone beacon
glad magnet
#

Perma ligma routes

umbral ember
#

no log from the run I just did unfortunately, forgot to combatlog activate

plush tendon
#

im pretty pumped about the roll system

burnt lantern
#

Companies make errors in official patch notes all the time, including Blizzard. Expect a correction at some point

umbral ember
plush tendon
#

Myth Chim is literally huge value for all my toons

undone beacon
#

Hmmmm

coarse bay
#

The roll system will let me target my trinkys in raid and gear up alts uber fast

lusty grotto
#

stun and reflect

plush tendon
#

getting 1 piece of loot, whatever it is, from that boss is always a upgrade

umbral ember
#

yep, thats in the rota

brisk cloud
#

has somebody compiled a list of "blizz approved" routes?

frosty mango
#

Yea and the reversion notes called out prot specifically, whereas the official notes today call out fury as being nerfed explicitly

#

Guess we’ll see

lusty grotto
#

lets see what Archi is saying

#

either way

#

fury is deadge

#

arms all the way

dusky canopy
#

You guys ready for the auto routing to pick the absolute worst fucking mobs known to man

#

I’m excited

coarse bay
#

Yes

#

Common blizzard w

frosty mango
#

Think archi said it was confirmed an old note

coarse bay
#

Expected outcome

brisk cloud
#

blizz approved route that makes you pull every single hex guardian in maisara

lusty grotto
#

why is there so much activity here rn

#

its not even vault tuesday

glad magnet
undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

what are they dooming about

brisk cloud
#

we got a pretty hype buff announced so everyone is happy

undone beacon
#

So I probably throw it at chim each week unless i get natty drops

lusty grotto
#

huh what buff

lofty warren
#

That top one is new?

lusty grotto
#

oh you mean people are just reading patch notes?

brisk cloud
#

colo got some numbers and better cooldown reduction on demolish

lusty grotto
#

ptr notes that have been there for a month?

#

or more?

#

ok i guess that tracks

brisk cloud
#

the first part is new and the compensatory thane nerfs are gone

lusty grotto
#

yes that we knew about since last week

glad magnet
lusty grotto
#

unfortunate

brisk cloud
#

nice to see it in the official note and not a #subjecttochange ptr note

lofty warren
#

If they were about the same and col got even more buffs? Does that mean it is bis now?

lusty grotto
#

they are not about the same

#

col is going to be ahead

#

i said so like 3 days ago

lofty warren
#

For both m+ and st?