my wife does close to zero dps btw
#protection
coarse bay
Oh well before they nerfed her as tank
fringe mural
i pull everything together and she shreds
coarse bay
Was fun me and gf playing 2 healers and just making tank valeera do the delve
fringe mural
lol
btw i instantly noticed that i have an indestructible shield now
gonna be rich soon yo
coarse bay
Like i just think the content can be better, because i only want to play games with friends and it feels a little punishing sometimes
Hell ya
Big stonks
fringe mural
if you don't turn it off you have a huge ass bag on your back when mining
coarse bay
What you could try doing is turning the delves into races
Id lose to you
fringe mural
all playing healer with val as dps
see who is faster
training for healer off dps championship
PIing yourself next time yo
indigo crane
so i cleared a M10 yesterday before reset even in my warlogs its written i already cleared 2. but in r.io there it says i only did one and also in my GV i didnt get a myth item. thats cringe....
Im pretty sure it was on time. but maybe not. anyway it doesnt matter for gv or does it?
coarse bay
Im pretty sure it was on time. but maybe not. anyway it doesnt matter for gv or ...
Itd still be there
What are the odds its a week old vault?
Try opening it again
ivory tusk
I'm 271 with a blue shield and Vet sword (making switch from fury)
Am I good to tank 10s with that low of a shield and main hand?
coarse bay
Should be
coarse bay
I'm 271 with a blue shield and Vet sword (making switch from fury)
Am I good to...
Those are incredibly important slots, but you have strong gear and a lot of people tanked 10s week 1 with similar shield. It mostly comes down to your play
tribal wharf
keep at it eventually it will give you purple shield
outer willow
What if I want to be touched
coarse bay
coarse bay
Nope
fringe mural
damn
the weapon is a pretty unimportant piece is it not?
it has very little str on it and the high dps skills don't scale with your weapon dps don't they?
coarse bay
Weapon is the most important for damage
There’s a reason crafted wep was recommended as first craft
crisp ocean
What if I want to be touched
let em know
fringe mural
Weapon is the most important for damage
okay ss scales with weapon dps
then it makes sense
it physically makes no sense that it does, but it does
maybe the weapon behind the shield makes the slam more menacing
daring marlin
I'm fucking HOWLING at this
solid sun
lol
outer willow
let em know
I shoulda 
tribal wharf
one of these days
im going to do a phone vault picture
i havent really posted any of my vaults
they all suck
sullen gust
As a question, with the new bonus rolls coming, whuch dungeons would be best to use them on in order to get the highest volume of useful mythic track pieces? Bonus if there is also good arms loot to be had in there
coarse bay
As a question, with the new bonus rolls coming, whuch dungeons would be best to ...
Run a droptimizer sim
sullen gust
On like raidbots?
harsh trellis
details
coarse bay
On like raidbots?
Yes
solid sun
Nice
lusty grotto
its funny cause i think he called it
tribal wharf
tribal wharf
he did die to stuff twice
tribal wharf
shred and entropy
indestructible hero chest out of it anyways
so now i will super never need to repair chest and can do it for free even if with smith hammer
narrow jay
I just want blizz to fix how fast our shield breaks lol ill do a dungeon not die and its half broken by the end 😂
Repair costs hurt
pastel sleet
progging m Dragons. we are 3 tanking with a blood. weve heard rumor that there is like a double soak on the null beam. can someone tell me more about it or is it just rumor?
tribal wharf
cuz like, i dont think an embellishment would remove it
but it deals like, 10 dmg
and you cant put another type of shield spike there?
which i think whould be great
this is one i meant to show
when thats filled out in a month or 2, along with weapon, i'll have zero repair cost
barring that i accidently use vendor and hit repair out of habit
polar atlas
I see lots of different talent builds on what's best for M+
Does anyone know the current meta one for prot warriors?
coarse bay
Does anyone know the current meta one for prot warriors?
We suggest icyveins
coarse bay
There isnt really a meta build really, the icyveins one is a really good general build, and there are some choices you can make for yourself
polar atlas
And for 16+ keys what should I be trying to do?
tribal wharf
if you have questions why we do or do not take a talent just ask and someone will explain why
polar atlas
does each dungeon require different talents>
coarse bay
does each dungeon require different talents>
You’d be able to do 16+ without changing anything from the icyveins build
For all dungeons
polar atlas
kk ty
polar atlas
You’d be able to do 16+ without changing anything from the icyveins build
1 more question
Heavy Repercussions (HR) to Into The Fray that's noted
I should swap if i have that haste req
assuming the talent will help me do more damage
coarse bay
I should swap if i have that haste req
You run HR until at least 1188 haste rating
That post explains it well
Or else you will run into SB downtime
polar atlas
kk i thought so, more damage the better!
opal ledge
i had such a noob moment... i tought health potion shared cd with pre pot and was not using them
outer willow
i had such a noob moment... i tought health potion shared cd with pre pot and wa...
Like… flasks?
severe star
guess I still need 102 more haste to run itf
placid onyx
Hi, should i cata that?
actually 1071 haste // 578 crit // 106 vers // 412 mastery
As i understood we want haste right?
lusty grotto
Hi, should i cata that?
actually 1071 haste // 578 crit // 106 vers // 412 mast...
yeah go ahead and cata it
placid onyx
thanks
placid onyx
yeah go ahead and cata it
do we pref crit over vers? i checked some top guys and they are all doing diff things
waxen frigate
do we pref crit over vers? i checked some top guys and they are all doing diff t...
Almost like nobody is in bis gear yet
tribal wharf
2500 soon probably
warm plinth
i had such a noob moment... i tought health potion shared cd with pre pot and wa...
Womp womp. Yeah they don't even have to be used preemptively anymore. They have a fixed 5 min cd regardless of combat
lusty grotto
do we pref crit over vers? i checked some top guys and they are all doing diff t...
we do, but it comes down to simming
tribal wharf
the basic concept last i knew is haste >> crit = mastery= versa
lusty grotto
the top guys basically equip myth gear regardless of stats
they might be swapping shit this week
placid onyx
im atm 3k4 and was just copy pasting everytalents, just found your pin about the ITF and i was running it since the beginning ahah
lusty grotto
shouldn't copy paste talents
1/4 builds are no bueno
4/4 apex builds are good though
solid sun
He means not copying builds from like raider io or aggregate sites
Using the icy veins build is a great start and if you wanted to know about flex points or recommendations for variations and why we do or don’t do certain things asking here is a solid play
proud dock
how u guys dealing with the fire debuff in skyreach?
like around how many stacks do you want to def drop them?
daring marlin
@lusty grotto got trolled
winged zenith
Where you guys getting 18 routes?
winged zenith
like around how many stacks do you want to def drop them?
10 is though
Need kite
Skyreach most hurt devuff is armor reduction
unique breach
Im having issue getting range on single target, espc if boss isnt attacking alot
rage*
lusty grotto
DK 270 now
nice
lusty grotto
Im having issue getting range on single target, espc if boss isnt attacking alot
boss isn't attacking a lot? nah that aint it
youre just not using SS enough
and probably spamming the shit out of IP when you should not
a log might help
remember to read this #protection message
warm plinth
Very little of our total rage comes from being hit. The largest chunk comes from shield slam by a wide margin.
undone beacon
M+ push group has formed within the guild and I’m the odd one out in terms of class smh
Sucks to suck I suppose
placid onyx
i just got my last piece of gear and im 1 haste above the number for ITF 😂
calm plaza
M+ push group has formed within the guild and I’m the odd one out in terms of cl...
u should tell them that you help me and that really means something
solid sun
M+ push group has formed within the guild and I’m the odd one out in terms of cl...
You'll always be in my push group
undone beacon
solid sun
Whenever you want me to furiously rampage your 15's and 16's and 17's
Just let me know
And when I suck you can let me down gently
lusty grotto
they fucking ruined belo'ren
this heroic swap is too easy now
it was easy before but at least it was fun
now its just afk time
drowsy comet
they fucking ruined belo'ren
you gotta think about the Pugs trying to clear HC Marsh too, not only you and guildies yk
they had to nerf things for the majority of the playerbase, just look at the clear rate
lusty grotto
yeah i know
im overreacting
cause i really did have fun with the first iteration of the swap
but its nbd can just wait for mythic
open wraith
Is there any addon that can help me track certain debuffs? Take the bleed in skyreach for example, I can see it on my party frames but Ideally I want to have any current debuff in its own square, somewhere way bigger is that still possible?
fringe mural
but its nbd can just wait for mythic
Exactly, they never added a new and harder difficulty, they just changed the names and added on the bottom, you know normal was always easy if you knew what you were doing
opal ledge
do u guys watch plkatv? the prot rank 1?
heavy sparrow
any info on arcanoweave's embelishment uptime for dual-crafted items?
ionic fern
do u guys watch plkatv? the prot rank 1?
No.
ionic fern
any info on arcanoweave's embelishment uptime for dual-crafted items?
Yes,pick any log that has it and check.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6qfmk9HxNwKBy2QJ?fight=19&type=auras&source=4 first one I clicked.
opal ledge
any info on arcanoweave's embelishment uptime for dual-crafted items?
that guy is running colossus with 2 active defensive trinkets
what sorcery is this
(windrunner +17)
opal ledge
well it's not usual for certain
it's the only one playing double defensive, and the only one playing colossus
(baed on top 100 runs of windrunners spire)
opal ledge
i can't decide what to pick from vault
narrow prawn
narrow prawn
if you feel like you can use box optimally, grab it
otherwise myth gloves
algethar is very powerful, it's just a hassle to use it
opal ledge
i'm more thinking about the solar core to be honest
but idk, i like running hear of wind and heart of hunger
narrow prawn
it's the best defensive trinket for sure
opal ledge
200k shield in 1:30 cd don't feel like a game changer... a few guys are running it on really high keys tho
opal ledge
maybe it will be useful in 15's? idk
maybe a hero grade of this trinket is enough tho
narrow prawn
idk i've been doing some 14-15s using gaze and feather/heart quite well
cedar kite
And....?:D
where did this propaganda start that macroing shield block into shield slam was a good idea?
heavy sparrow
algethar is very powerful, it's just a hassle to use it
I have to cables people up every now and then it's about the same cast-time
opal ledge
tbh honest is not as bad as IP + Shield Slam
quiet matrix
where did this propaganda start that macroing shield block into shield slam was ...
Keeps coming up in my yt feeds as suggested 😂
jagged pier
where did this propaganda start that macroing shield block into shield slam was ...
Strimmers
Not us
jagged pier
tbh honest is not as bad as IP + Shield Slam
Or miss intuprting the macro, that is to snipe ss resets its not used as a ss bind but as an ip bind
U still have ss bound on a different key
U can macro SS into any gcd button if u want sb avatar etc cause all it will do is snipe resets if they happen. But if u are macroing it to an gcd that doesnt spend rage u nees to be careful not to overcap hence why it works for ip and sb cause they spend the rage before ss give u it
ionic fern
where did this propaganda start that macroing shield block into shield slam was ...
What ?
desert lance
k, so I tried tanking m0, as 199 prot war, it's been a pain in the ass. Sustain on packs was fine, but the failed mechanics on boss (on dps side) put me into holy flames. Got a follow-up question, as prot war seems to be a shit loads of different buttons, which r limited for me cause I play on this thing + got 5 buttons on my mouse.
What macroses do u use? If u don't mind sharing'em here/in personals - would be awesome.
What offensives do u use? Cause there is a plenty, but I would love to limit the usage to 5-10 max.
My layout on the keypad is similar for every char. 1-5 - offensives.
6-10 - offensives (major)/forms (e.x.-avatar for prot war)/proc cooldowns.
11-15 - defensives.
16-19 - major defensives.
20 is jump, circular is raid save (shout as per prot war).
I've got ignore pain, tab, CC and taunt binded to mouse buttons.
ik 199 is low af for m0, it was a test run and everyone knew it. Just looking forward to optimizing the usage of buttons by combining those who are meant to be combined.
jagged pier
The only buttons we dont press are whirlwind and slam
desert lance
The only buttons we dont press are whirlwind and slam
like at all? Cause these r main buttons I use as per offensive.. or was it sarcams?
mighty valley
whirlwind and slam are literally useless
jagged pier
like at all? Cause these r main buttons I use as per offensive.. or was it sarca...
We literally dont press them
Your main offensive buttons are SS and TC
The revenge
Your main defensive is Shield Block
vital vale
k, so I tried tanking m0, as 199 prot war, it's been a pain in the ass. Sustain ...
imma be real with you, you can't play pwar with a max of 10 keybinds even if you use macros. you technically can just throw out the window a few buttons and talent into some passive but I wouldn't take it into high end content
jagged pier
Follows by IP when u need to spend rage
desert lance
imma be real with you, you can't play pwar with a max of 10 keybinds even if you...
Well it's not 10, it's 25, I'm just looking forward to optimizing what can be optimized
jagged pier
But then u need avatar demo, inturpt, shield wall, wrecking throw, aoe taunt, fear/slow shout, zerker rage, storm bolt, charge, leap
Execute kinda i guess
desert lance
Follows by IP when u need to spend rage
I'm saving ur msg's for review once I'm home.
vital vale
ok well as great way to optimize is using a modifier such as ctrl
jagged pier
I'm saving ur msg's for review once I'm home.
I suggest reading the icu veins guide our prio/rotstion is in there
vital vale
then you can essentially use evey keybind for 2-3 different things
unkempt hazel
ICU veins
desert lance
I suggest reading the icu veins guide our prio/rotstion is in there
I've checked it, and watched several videos, I'll work on rotation and button usage
jagged pier
I really wouodnt watch videos
ionic fern
Its infortunatly a thing mwahi
How and why? Who even came up with it.
jagged pier
A lot of these only guides etc have the wrong information
ionic fern
jagged pier
How and why? Who even came up with it.
I dont know but it was a thing last expansion, i dunno its seems to have gotten worse this expansion tho
jagged pier
would you watch cat videos
I am interested.... go on
desert lance
ok well as great way to optimize is using a modifier such as ctrl
I've got no ctrl, I posted a pic of what I play from. It's all already binded to 1-0, ctrl 1-0, alt 1-0. Point is to combine whatever buttons can be combined, to pull the button usage to same layout as I use on my other chars.
desert lance
I've got no interest in chatting in game, thus I simply keep keyboard god knows where, just to open like LFG menu etc.
jagged pier
Haste itf hr explanation
ionic fern
Was it validated for proper values?
jagged pier
I mean u wanna change it feel free
desert lance
A lot of these only guides etc have the wrong information
Yeah, every video seems to explain somewhat differently and it's making no sense, if u combine all the info 😄
unkempt hazel
I am interested.... go on
ionic fern
Jakey needs to make a prot video guide.
jagged pier
Yeah, every video seems to explain somewhat differently and it's making no sense...
All specs have issues with guides because ppl just make them for money, majority of them are just flat out wrong, like alot of times they dont even soend rage
jagged pier
Jakey needs to make a prot video guide.
Memeber when i did do that and a video on how to read logs so i didnt have to anymore 
desert lance
All specs have issues with guides because ppl just make them for money, majority...
oh, got a q about ignore pain. U said main defensive is shield block, rather then IP. Do I always prioritize SB, or do I need to keep up several stacks of IP, as an ironfur on guardian druid?
jagged pier
jagged pier
oh, got a q about ignore pain. U said main defensive is shield block, rather the...
No u prio shield block
Ip is literally there to dump rage, which u have a lot of once u are over 70 rage u just send ip
Its that simple
desert lance
understood, tnx!
unkempt hazel
me pressing revenge
jagged pier
Me pressing demolish next reset
ionic fern
Memeber when i did do that and a video on how to read logs so i didnt have to an...
Ya,make a guide now.
jagged pier
Ya,make a guide now.
In office cant do that
jagged pier
https://tenor.com/view/livasmol-loading-cat-smol-gif-6810651202878211592
20 second cd 
ionic fern
I just took the first prot warrior guide I found on yt and it said Indom is big heals and you should take execute talents for dam while TaN is "just withering down enemies so not taken" - talking about m+.
jagged pier
but I want to MOOOOVE
U can move inbetween that
unkempt hazel
ionic fern
Yah,I'm gonna advise Col in ST and MT for m+ (spoilers).
And then secretly play Col in m+ myself cause spamming Demolish is fun.
drowsy comet
https://tenor.com/view/running-frankie-la-penna-run-slow-mo-slow-mo-run-gif-1011...
Holy o.o
unkempt hazel
his eyes are up there
jagged pier
Yah,I'm gonna advise Col in ST and MT for m+ (spoilers).
I mean yer i cant advise most ppl to play col in m+ cause its much harder, maybe for low stuff i suppose
heavy sparrow
tried out demolish right when 2nd boss in voidspire does his smack, can confirm it still interupts your demo
drowsy comet
his eyes are up there
Guilty 
unkempt hazel
pallid river
I have a champion gaze, champion guidon, and just got a myth heart of wind, which combo should i use? different for damage vs survival?
ionic fern
Heart of wind + gaze would be my go-to.
drowsy comet
Have to flex a lil, badass santa
pallid river
Heart of wind + gaze would be my go-to.
is the crucible worth it for some dungeons/secnarios
unkempt hazel
with gaze and mythic heart I doubt
little ermine
do we know if blizzard plan on adding dinars again with the turbo boost ?
i haven't seen anything about that yet, but given the fact that dinars were there for the other turbo boosts i wonder
ionic fern
do we know if blizzard plan on adding dinars again with the turbo boost ?
i have...
To target specific loot?
little ermine
yeah
drowsy comet
got hero shoulders now, my 4pc hero set is complete 🙏🏻
fringe mural
Yay
unkempt hazel
big
fringe mural
I will need to get hero shoulders from delve to swap them, i already have the manaflux for it
unkempt hazel
my holy pal got a myth chest 3 vaults in a row
fringe mural
or i'll just go pit again and again and again
unkempt hazel
fringe mural
i'm 60 haste away from the breakpoint
if i get seat gloves or a ring with swapped stats i can swap to itf
drowsy comet
Second Manaflux achiev 
fringe mural
yeah, i have it for warr and druid now
drowsy comet
yeah, i have it for warr and druid now
same xD
unkempt hazel
got it for monk pala and warr
fringe mural
pit has really nice warrior drops
unkempt hazel
🗣️
I did feel a lil bad dragging my champ/hero ass into lfr to steal vet set piece
just a bit
fringe mural
and i need to get the waist from windrunner for the massive haste
drowsy comet
i need the rings from NPX 
fringe mural
i have the firelands ring which is really strong
on heroic
widow's band
175 haste 100 mastery i think
drowsy comet
Got this shit almost done too, I like the red set alot ngl, teh shoulders somehow remind me of the Mannoroth Shoulders
unkempt hazel
my only non hero pieces are both damn trinkets
severe star
I still got my champ trinket and bracers from week 1
unkempt hazel
lucky they're s tier, unlucky I wont replace them any time soon
fringe mural
lucky they're s tier, unlucky I wont replace them any time soon
i have champ alnseer and hero delve trinket
I always forget the name of that helm
Str with strongest secondary proc
unkempt hazel
aye, also champ gaze and ranger captains (is pretty good for brew)
drowsy comet
i was quite lucky to get all hero pieces and catalyze these for set pieces
tho I still dont understand what this one achievement is to unlock a special "effect" for your set? no idea what that is
unkempt hazel
gives like
fringe mural
yeah i will just run bountiful delves until i either get or can buy a hero shoulder to make into tier
unkempt hazel
smoke effect
severe star
tho I still dont understand what this one achievement is to unlock a special "ef...
Ill show you
unkempt hazel
your shoulders and helm get a bit more glowy
drowsy comet
unkempt hazel
i gotta do myth chim again
blizzard I require you to give me myth gaze
just... gimme
drowsy comet
blizzard I require you to give me myth gaze
buy a boost
idk how much they are for myth chim, but yea
or be in pug hell and pug it
unkempt hazel
I did pug it last week
severe star
<:monkahmm:1382590600439664751>
little more glowy
unkempt hazel
just casual 5 hours idk wdym
severe star
and forgot to click the feet mb
unkempt hazel
I hate how lfr gotta be the best version
drowsy comet
little more glowy
Whats the achievement called?
unkempt hazel
light of the party or something
drowsy comet
?
unkempt hazel
ya
fringe mural
i mean i would've probably done it when i was 20 but now? No way
drowsy comet
oh wait, they are character bound right? then it makes sense why I havent unlocked that yet as my rio on my pwarr is just 1.8k or something
fringe mural
Don't have the patience for 5 hours of randoms
drowsy comet
Is this Gloaming Sunmote then a one time use item or like a toy?
unkempt hazel
b4 I joined
fringe mural
omg
unkempt hazel
Is this Gloaming Sunmote then a one time use item or like a toy?
one time
severe star
Is this Gloaming Sunmote then a one time use item or like a toy?
1 time use and I think it gives it for all classes
drowsy comet
for 2500 rating apparently, I see
fringe mural
ah k
drowsy comet
2500 is 330 on each right?
thats like all 10s or something
drowsy comet
or 9s yea
severe star
which honestly this season is really easy
fringe mural
Is this 7 hours i'm looking at?
unkempt hazel
apparently lmao
fringe mural
which honestly this season is really easy
Yeah i think i went in +10 skyreach first try
quiet matrix
Where do you guys get routes from for higher keys like 15+?
Ones I ran until now are kind of not cutting it anymore
fringe mural
it was alright
vocal owl
Are col prot the play after 12.0.5?
ionic fern
Col and MT are both playable in 12.0.5
vocal owl
What does most damage and what is the easy one?
fringe mural
Nothing being 'meta'
unkempt hazel
Where do you guys get routes from for higher keys like 15+?
Ones I ran until no...
I'd prolly youtube some bs like "+16 x dungeon pug"
ionic fern
What does most damage and what is the easy one?
Colossus will deal slightly more damage. MT will be easier.
vocal owl
Colossus will deal slightly more damage. MT will be easier.
Thanks, and for tankines?
ionic fern
Both are "tanky" enough.
vocal owl
Tyty
quiet matrix
fringe mural
if u want tanky clearly u gotta go 1/4
2/4
drowsy comet
Colossus will deal slightly more damage. MT will be easier.
Do they? :o
fringe mural
it's more random
unkempt hazel
lol
fringe mural
like you're not fully commited to dropping the important dmg buff
but still far enough away from the dr
severe star
but tanks dont need to do damage they just need to live
quiet matrix
If you kill the mobs faster, they wont kill you though
fringe mural
the more rage you have the less dmg you take
fringe mural
why i thought we spammed ip?
unkempt hazel
yet I take a lot of dmg
fringe mural
like i charge and spam ip asap
drowsy comet
If you kill the mobs faster, they wont kill you though <:keks:936231610850897992...
arpg mindset, I love it
severe star
If you kill the mobs faster, they wont kill you though <:keks:936231610850897992...
a shaman told me that tanks should not do damage just live after a +10 because I did 10k more dps overall than him
unkempt hazel
unkempt hazel
Sure bud... <:KEKW:1486426802762154225>
wait whas wrong
naive ravine
Both are "tanky" enough.
But regarding whats most tanky it will still be MT thanks to the higher Rage regen, right?
unkempt hazel
oh wait 275
drowsy comet
bro just wants his ass to get carried, like how insecure you gotta be to list a heroic dragons, and mention only 275+ ilvl lol
jagged pier
But regarding whats most tanky it will still be MT thanks to the higher Rage reg...
They probs around the same
naive ravine
More demo shouts and more sw does not matter?
drowsy comet
since he cant set it
he will only invite these players with said ilvl tho
quiet matrix
Wish there was a breakdown on total rage and what has generated it. I want to see how useful Bloodsurge is
jagged pier
Well u run tls with colssus anyway 
so it will be about the same, and technically the rage should be same ish it will be less as colossus for sure but that should effect things to much
drowsy comet
I like the normal/heroic groups with a name lile "5/9M LEAD ON ALT"
Yeaa same for keys LMAO
unkempt hazel
or the dungeon one with "have 3k on main" like if ur the kind of person to care, u'd set up rio properly
naive ravine
Well u run tls with colssus anyway <:shruge:1111204342830223421> so it will be a...
I mean more demo shouts cuz of the cdr on TC
unkempt hazel
like no excuse
ionic fern
But regarding whats most tanky it will still be MT thanks to the higher Rage reg...
Roughly the same I would say. Col has bigger IPs + default +5% DR built into the hero tree.
jagged pier
I mean more demo shouts cuz of the cdr on TC
Well the prio doesnt really change and as stuff doesnt reset the cd of tb, its pretty much the same
quiet matrix
Roughly the same I would say. Col has bigger IPs + default +5% DR built into the...
But MT has lightning effects 
jagged pier
U can glypth that to tc anyway
unkempt hazel
yknow what i miss
the old tc effect
it was poor quality sure but it had that oomph in it
that big ass wave
also I think it had a more thunderous sound effect
ionic fern
But MT has lightning effects <a:LETSGOOO:770741530805796874>
Agreed. We like mini-shamans.
naive ravine
Roughly the same I would say. Col has bigger IPs + default +5% DR built into the...
Doesnt MT have a build in dr aswell after TC?
unkempt hazel
ionic fern
Doesnt MT have a build in dr aswell after TC?
It has 2% and only TB affects more.
naive ravine
Oh I see
drowsy comet
https://tenor.com/view/conan-sword-lightning-audioslave-cochise-gif-163333092123...
this needs the Sonne from Rammstein song in the background
or this russian emo trap mix
sharp gale
Cologne. The right name of that town
rocky fossil
the cape is myth tracked, should I craft belt with arcanoweave? Does slot matter or is ilvl king in this case?
peak pier
The tank balance currently in Mythic+ is so bad
quiet matrix
Monk > Everything else?
unkempt hazel
true, I played my warrior and its not s tier so I folded in my lfr run
unkempt hazel
the cape is myth tracked, should I craft belt with arcanoweave? Does slot matter...
you should craft some mf pants
drowsy comet
thats what I call luck
unkempt hazel
fringe mural
yeah there's no shield big enough to cover those thick thighs
severe star
riot shield prehaps?
drowsy comet
<:keks:936231610850897992>
i wanted this transmog ngl xD
pastel geyser
the cape is myth tracked, should I craft belt with arcanoweave? Does slot matter...
should honestly drop the shoulders to complete the look
i can see which theme u are going for but sadly it is a censored abreviation of 4 words in here
rocky fossil
you should craft some mf pants
Dragon Thighs > Life
drowsy comet
bro no way classic players are like that bruh
i always knew they are "special" but holy
waxen frigate
https://x.com/N_Tys26/status/2044553015118770664?s=20
This dude is like 38 years old and has 2 kids probably that’s the scary part
unkempt hazel
I honestly doubt he has kids
drowsy comet
This dude is like 38 years old and has 2 kids probably that’s the scary part
bro doesnt get p*ssy, theres no way on earth
waxen frigate
bro doesnt get p*ssy, theres no way on earth
You’d be surprised
You have to remember
Imagine the stupidest person you know
And then realize a significant amount of the population is even worse
drowsy comet
no thank you i dont wanna imagine that
rocky fossil
shame no captions
drowsy comet
all I see from his crashout is an obese guy, with a neckbeard and glasses and unemployed.. oh wait the South Park guy
I silenced this channel once again
drowsy comet
theres no way he's not a mod of some reddit sub
thats how every mod looks like wether on Discord, Reddit, Twitch, or any other platform. Didnt you know?
except Jakey and Mwahi, they definetly look better (to not get banned here)
unkempt hazel
ionic fern
except Jakey and Mwahi, they definetly look better (to not get banned here)
Nice save.
drowsy comet
Nice save.
lofty warren
why the guys before 1st boss in seat hit harder than boss can barely pull more than 1 pack without bl
in +16
lunar flower
champions charging ya prolly
void saffron
u mean subjucators chains or u getting charges
sharp gale
why the guys before 1st boss in seat hit harder than boss can barely pull more t...
If you move more than 10 yards from them, they kill you
If you are not expecting the dmg and like you chain 2nd pull and 3rd and those champions are still alive, you charge 3rd pack-> they charge you -> you die
sharp gale
thats how every mod looks like wether on Discord, Reddit, Twitch, or any other p...
100% Tomrus is a beast irl
naive ravine
How does this talent work?
Do I just get more hp and when it runs out a second heal from IV?
sharp gale
If you fully use this one, it is better than the DR but it’s so small diff
lofty warren
If you are not expecting the dmg and like you chain 2nd pull and 3rd and those c...
yes its right after I pull more with guys at low hp that i get massive HP go down
sharp gale
On mdt right click on one of those and you will see the charge spell
I exclude the possibility of you are just charging the dude in the back of the pack, you play for too long pepega
lofty warren
trying to get the haste rating to switch talenst i just hit 1200
fringe mural
1188
sharp gale
what a toxic mechanic that is anti- pull lots of stuff
It would have been a good mechanic if it targeted dps/healers so you would have to play between spread the chains and not getting too far
drowsy comet
who are you summoning?
i thought he was having a stroke
blazing shuttle
trying to get the haste rating to switch talenst i just hit 1200
With cons?
daring marlin
It would have been a good mechanic if it targeted dps/healers so you would have ...
Hell no. That'd be cancer.
sharp gale
Hell no. That'd be cancer.
Im a dps, I like to be involved 🤷♂️
It’s better than kill tank bc he is pulling next pack
daring marlin
It’s better than kill tank bc he is pulling next pack
Anti-kite mechanics are good.
sharp gale
Like mobs that grab the tank if he goes to far? You like that ?
That’s an unusual take I’m kinda surprised
And… the charge being on dps/healer would be anti kite anyway
solid sun
I don’t mind the charge preventing kiting, but I don’t think it should prevent ranged pulling
sharp gale
I’ve seen more tanks die bc pulling than bc kiting on those mobs
pastel geyser
How does this talent work?
i swear this talent has such weird wording on it
serene wave
So between Heart of Wind, Ancient Hunger and Plume what do I go with in m+?
pastel geyser
could just be summed up to increase max hp by 10% then heal for how much overhealing impending victory did when the max hp expires
toxic pewter
So between Heart of Wind, Ancient Hunger and Plume what do I go with in m+?
i would go plume and acient hunger myself
pastel geyser
hm no heart of wind?
serene wave
I was thinking the same, I am sitting on 1081 haste no buffa
toxic pewter
i dont like that trinket personally i prefer my haste to be static as much as i can have it so i can be sure i am good for shiel block
that just me tho
pastel geyser
honestly nowthat i have 1.2k haste unbuffed it feels quite nice to play itf, the gcd feels noticeably lower
serene wave
With flask i go to 1200
pastel geyser
btw how much prio is the Revenge! proc from 4set shield charge compared to ss and tblast? i assume lower then both
toxic pewter
basically about the same as a regular revenge tbh
doesnt really get treated that much differently
maiden quiver
Yeah, you press it only if ss and tc are on cd essentially
toxic pewter
all it is is a free revenge that does like 15% more damage
maiden quiver
The only real benefit of the free revenge is it lets you pump more rage into ignore pain
void saffron
I don’t mind the charge preventing kiting, but I don’t think it should prevent r...
What u mean by ranged pulling? I heroic throw those 2x3packs to first pack and they dont charge
void saffron
Seems like they charge only if you/someone else been in melee range or after stun, if u just taunt/ht them from 30yard, they just run to u
tribal wharf
sharp gale
Seen many tanks pull at range and get blown up
Typical death : they pull the second pack and then range pull the champions in outside circle left, and die
solid sun
Yuh
tribal wharf
heres the problem with that pull
this together is spell combo of doom for your team
mostly if you have, 3 warriors, and a paladin, and a rogue, and nobody has taken or knows what a ranged kick is
somebody moves 8 yards, they get charged, for that group i just made up in my mind, someones going to have to move to kick it
now at least 1 of the charge monsters comes in and does tons of dmg to the guy going for kick
now we miss the kicks
see the problem?
rigid veldt
Morning fellow prots - quick question, as a newbie tank / player, is there a add-on that highlights the preferreed route to run in M+. Also, is there a way to macro shield slam and shield wall together? Was watching a Vlad video and he mentioned that and wasn't sure how to do it
ionic fern
Morning fellow prots - quick question, as a newbie tank / player, is there a add...
What on earth
Stop watching whoever Vlad is.
That's some BS advise
solid sun
He means shield block, not shield wall, and this came up yesterday as well
stiff inlet
Not sure on the first, but yes you can macro them but its not necessarily advised due to wasting rage if at max uptime
ionic fern
Doesn't matter.
solid sun
And as Mwahi said, it’s no good
ionic fern
Still crap advise.
solid sun
Content creators and bad prot warrior advice, name a more iconic duo
Anyways nice to see you again mwahi. Hope you’re well
drowsy comet
Tanking is a true test of your mental health ngl. This DK begged for big pulls, I told him in the first room would require some sort of Bloodlust so its much easier to pull the whole thing. We didnt have Bloodlust so I had to do 2 seperate pulls.
Some people also didnt quite understand how the Fatty and Witch fight works, so we wiped once. I only got killed once because you simply cant live when the Witch does her nukes. I also did more DPS than the DH and DK in a couple of pulls. This is just redicilous man
ionic fern
Anyways nice to see you again mwahi. Hope you’re well
Definitely not well. Reading so much crap in this channel that it's starting to feel like we're a meta tank.
drowsy comet
i mean im not the best tank so I definetly dont have the right to say anything-
solid sun
Just don’t invite udk
solid sun
And if it isn’t your key and one joins just back out
ionic fern
They are all mongs.
drowsy comet
Just don’t invite udk
i wasnt party leader
I didnt have a chance, Im a slave of the system
unkempt hazel
ur a tank
crisp ocean
does the addon help with routes?
unkempt hazel
Tanking is a true test of your mental health ngl. This DK begged for big pulls, ...
after I did this one +10 skyreach where nobody in the group didnt JUST not know any of the mechanics on anything, but even when they get hit by the damn glaive on 1st boss they just keep standing letting it hit em again, and repeat that for the rest of the fight
I realized maybe going back to 10's is not a good idea
daring marlin
Tanking is a true test of your mental health ngl. This DK begged for big pulls, ...
A.) bring drums
B.) UDKs are windowlickers
daring marlin
Just don’t invite udk
based, true
unkempt hazel
i cant member last time i saw fdk
drowsy comet
I already said no to the Arcane Mage, little did I know UDKs are the same kind of special people...
unkempt hazel
invite demo locks
tribal wharf
Morning fellow prots - quick question, as a newbie tank / player, is there a add...
shield wall is something you want to put it on CD often so it recharges, but you want to save it for when its really needed
stacks, start of pull, some BS mechanic you know you are about to fail
drowsy comet
like u cant mess it up
Yea I still dream about the Hotdog Retri ngl
bro was rocking on these Wieners
a true retri paladin
unkempt hazel
bro is good with sausages
daring marlin
a true retri paladin
again, he could have done that on any class
stiff inlet
Are there any content creators you would recommend?
daring marlin
He had the OBA hidden
unkempt hazel
wats oba
daring marlin
one button assist
unkempt hazel
oh lol
drowsy comet
Are there any content creators you would recommend?
Only for Pwarr or all tanks?
stiff inlet
Pwar mostly
drowsy comet
Topicx I can recommend
does daily POVs and guides as Pwarr
pushing the highest keys possible for him
rocky snow
Hey there, quick question regarding Seat's L'ura : according to the sheet, we can spell reflect the tank buster, but it seems to me I don't always press it at the right time. Does anyone have any advice as to when to press it ? Sorry if it's been asked, I did do a quick search and found nothing (reposting from Fury, did not intend to ask there !)
tribal wharf
i disagree with the routes he uses a bit, but i like the methods he uses for fighting things
drowsy comet
my routes are sometimes a total disaster too and we still timed it
tribal wharf
he can explain things well
and then other youtubers are like hur dur its really easy
you got some caster boys here
and a melee bro and you pull it, and they do nothin and you just nuke em! ez!
drowsy comet
@lusty grotto Idk if you´re sleeping but theres an important question to answer
rocky snow
https://www.youtube.com/@TopicxYT
Heh just saw this guy has a spell reflect video, probably answers my question as well 😄
drowsy comet
oh true, I saw something too now that u mention it
tribal wharf
i didnt watch it fully cuz it dont have CC (closed caption, not crowd control)
ever since i've been fairly young have liked to play games with cutscene voice text on the screen and CC for like movies and such
cuz then i can just read what they said instead of listen to it and pick u p totally different msg
daring marlin
cuz then i can just read what they said instead of listen to it and pick u p tot...
I do the same thing
I always have subtitles on
harsh bobcat
To people who (almost) exclusively PuG mid/high keys…. How painful is it to get invited to groups this season? With the new announcement i wanna push 3400 so rerolling from non-meta DPS cause queues are a nightmare and thought about dusting off my warrior to push but worried its either go brew or go home in PuGs in 12-13+ like it is for meta dps
naive ravine
In those keys you should be fine
torn gulch
3400 will be alright to reach this season in pugs that's the equivalent to resilient 16's
lunar flower
Hey there, quick question regarding Seat's L'ura : according to the sheet, we ca...
the boss has a stacking buff, when it reaches 3 stacks it shoots a beam you can reflect, typically just before the beams start rotating
torn gulch
with keys going probably to 23-24 this season 16's will be pugable
now the top 1% one might be fore difficult
daring marlin
To people who (almost) exclusively PuG mid/high keys…. How painful is it to get ...
You will get invites as prot warrior
lunar flower
To people who (almost) exclusively PuG mid/high keys…. How painful is it to get ...
im getting more invites more consistently / faster than in TWW, esp at 12-13 you should be fine. prolly because there's a lot of bad brew meta chasers and people are a bit sus
dull fossil
I'm still mostly going with "this is jsut random personal experience" 😛
could be per region, per time of day, per ilvl.
lunar flower
fair point
dull fossil
but this also means: people need to try. even if it should work, you can't promise it will 🙁
honestly not trying to be antagonistic, but ask 5 people what a medium or a low key is and you will get 7 answers
(and so then they will claim "up to x is fine, and from y meta is helpful") 🤷♂️
daring marlin
yeah idk like the other guy said 3400 is gonna be easy to achieve this season if you put in a teeny amount if effort as anything.
Resilient keystones are goated.
Any tank will have an easier time than DPS too, imo.
plush tendon
3400 will be ~~easy ~~achievable
saying easy might be too suggestive since everything is relative
the 1% achievement might be a bit more
and I dont know if we can use last season as a example since there were no rewards and therefore people didnt push for it
but, for context, last season title was 3912, but 1% would have been 3515
its hard to tell where the 1% achieve will end up being
warm plinth
Oh there's a mount for 1% now?
plush tendon
theres a mount and a title
so its worthwhile to pursue
it may be heavily abused though
the key range for 1% might be something title level players can boost super easy
warm plinth
Sounds gross
plush tendon
eh, also means theres a lot of money to be made
and, I wont lie, I will probably end up using a friends resil to jump start my IO
like im not even 3k XD
trail dome
I really don't like resil. :(
I got to like 3500~ or so last season pre turbo boost, but really didn't enjoy the meta of people progging resil priory 8hrs a day. Tough to keep up with like... work 😅
Kind of feel like it moved the needle of being able to play one key well to being able to one key a lot.
plush tendon
I really don't like resil. :(
I got to like 3500~ or so last season pre turbo ...
I feel you
same thing happened over here, but we were doing 20 Priory (which is a dumb key)... and it just became a "how the heck do we time this without resi?'
abstract skiff
Does shieldblock duration stack?
plush tendon
like the optimal strat was for one guy on your team to get resil (prob from a guy who had resil) and then spread the wealth
plush tendon
Does shieldblock duration stack?
yes
trail dome
Yeah I guess I just need to find a group :o
trail dome
my guild is mostly raidloggers unfortunately, and critcake
tribal wharf
22 seconds
tribal wharf
now, with HR you can keep it up for longer
plush tendon
but I will say I think Runescape came out with a new thing
so lots of people in my guild are playing that for the next week or so
tribal wharf
so you could get i guess about another 5 or so seconds on it working with 15 ss cast per minute
so thats like, maybe 4 or 5 ss
between 4 and 7 is what i would assume in a 27 second time frame,
maybe more with 2 free SS proc thingy
crisp ocean
my HP was jumping is that cuz of gear or lack of defensives?
stone tundra
crisp ocean
alright
analog lily
Got a question,Berserker shout is party based dispell or raid wide dispell fear？
toxic pewter
raid I believe
analog lily
It says group members,it’s kinda confusing.
lusty grotto
no idea ive never used it
toxic pewter
i think it woul say party
plush tendon
its prob only party tbh
toxic pewter
i may be wrong, obviously anyone correct me if i am wrong
analog lily
Ok thx
plush tendon
the tooltip says group
analog lily
Ye,we are on myth chim
plush tendon
i know i take it in myth chim..
are you guys also at the point where immediatly after the first intermission... you just full send on boss and sac the first tank
toxic pewter
yah def gotta sac the 2nd soak tank
after intermission
brez him if one still available
plush tendon
I think we can do it on the first soak now
plush tendon
it might be a little tight, but we got the boss down to less then 10%
before the consume
and I was like 'why did we even kill adds?'
analog lily
That’s fast.
plush tendon
anyways, for Hawk here. If yall progging Chim
the number 1 priority is KICK THE ADD
analog lily
Yep
analog lily
Just we have 3 wars,I want to put them in different groups to save the raid in case someone missed a interrupt
We are struggling at the flight phase currently.
blissful pecan
Yeah put one in each group, might save one fear cast going off
woven radish
Hey there, quick question regarding Seat's L'ura : according to the sheet, we ca...
Just hit SR as soon as Lance hits 3 stacks and you'll always hit it.... only word spot is right into the dmg amp phase sometimes it can insta shoot at 3 bc there are no mechanics overlaps that make it wait. But that's just something you'll see as you do it now knowing when that timing is
coarse bay
Egg and bacon in a sandwich
daring marlin
Egg and bacon in a sandwich
This is de wae
plush tendon
We are struggling at the flight phase currently.
smart; shaman can aslo fear totem
remember to not waste interrupts on the bolts
just interrupt fear
plush tendon
Do I go eggs and bacon or do I just get a convenient sandwich
bacon, egg, and cheese on a bagel
coarse bay
And assign rdps to left/right or close/far adds
plush tendon
salt and pepper
undone beacon
Good morning little chuddies
coarse bay
Good morning pash
plush tendon
or hot sauce
undone beacon
I was at my parents house because there was an emergency and I had to dogsit so, it worked out but not because of Verizon
daring marlin
Good morning little chuddies
morning
lapis vortex
anyone of u know a good addon to show Friendlys Offense and Defensice CD? I tried MiniCC and what i dont like is that there are so many Major DMG CD missing. Any alternatives?
undone beacon
Cant do that anymore
coarse bay
The problems with minicc are what u get if you try
plush tendon
Im thinking of doing some PC upgrades; yall think I can pair a 3060TI with this
Microcenter has a sale
undone beacon
Microcenter my beloved
tribal wharf
fake ai ram
coarse bay
Slop ram
plush tendon
tribal wharf
you are fake ram haver, i am real ram haver
undone beacon
Right next to a great ramen place too
solid sun
Huh
undone beacon
No I live in Northern VA
lapis vortex
The problems with minicc are what u get if you try
so is there any alternativvce for MiniCC?
undone beacon
I think this is the farthest south microcenter left, but i may be wrong
naive ravine
anyone of u know a good addon to show Friendlys Offense and Defensice CD? I trie...
I think kira or yoda are using smth called PetesDefensiveHistory
daring marlin
its down the street from me
fuck you buddy lol
lapis vortex
i heared about it.
daring marlin
Closest Microcenter is 70 mins from me
plush tendon
arent they bricking those addons come Tuesday?
undone beacon
so is there any alternativvce for MiniCC?
Not really, group CD trackers are something they wanted to remove, especially for tracking damage CDs. Anything that exists is super jank and basically just guessing what people have
solid sun
Is Cthulhu the supreme egg hot sauce? (Cholula)
daring marlin
But that's better than when I lived in Wisconsin at least
undone beacon
And is also likely to be shot by blizzard as they keep changing addon parameters
coarse bay
so is there any alternativvce for MiniCC?
Idk, those addons are jank and inconsistent
plush tendon
yea, I try to use as few add ons as possible now
solid sun
I deleted my whole ui suite last night
plush tendon
game also runs much faster with less add ons
mild river
Is there any place I can see route for high keys (18+)?
daring marlin
Is Cthulhu the supreme egg hot sauce? (Cholula)
chipotle tabasco goated
solid sun
Is it Smokey
undone beacon
Honestly, having less addons and using the blizz UI stuff was great for a situation last night. Even on my mother's computer I still had most of my UI, was just missing shit like actionbarsenhanced which, really is extraneous
I did have to panic install rclootcouncil
solid sun
Right now I’m using blizzard for party and raid frames
undone beacon
But most of the UI was intact between computers
plush tendon
the major addons I use now are Better CDM, CDM centered, baganator, and plater
still havnt been able to get used to any other nameplates but plater.... so it stays for now
solid sun
I use better cdm but tbh I have no fucking clue why
plush tendon
I use it for the bars
tribal wharf
plush tendon
they give a good rage bar
tribal wharf
i really do have ram lol
plush tendon
and, for DK, rage and rune bar
drowsy comet
these RAM must be fake
solid sun
I don’t need a rage bar. I’m just always the most pissed
plush tendon
centered I obviously use to center it and make it look nice
undone beacon
I use rclootcouncil, chattynator, platynator, and sensei's resource bar (for survival mostly)
tribal wharf
96gb ddr5, 16 gb ddr5, 8gb ddr4 and some shit tier ddr3 ram but a 4 pack
solid sun
I got this addon that changes the color of people on my friends list
naive ravine
Not really, group CD trackers are something they wanted to remove, especially fo...
PetesDefensiveHistory works by looking what buffs your group has, the only real problem is when ppl dont have LibSpec (?)
solid sun
Based on what class they’re playing
That way I can see someone is playing DK and not invite their asses
tribal wharf
and then take into consideration, thats whats NOT inside my computer
drowsy comet
Sell them, big profit
drowsy comet
Oh nvm
plush tendon
Yogi opening up his own AI datacenter
tribal wharf
but yeh, i got too much ram i think probably
real reason is want to make 3 or 4 pcs
solid sun
Chattynator, baganator, bartender, better cdm
tribal wharf
gaming pc, work pc (new), server pc, "retro gaming pc" with ddr3
solid sun
I might try cdm centered
plush tendon
ive been debating just doing a fresh new build and spending like $2k+ on parts
solid sun
Moving the cdm was pissing me off
tribal wharf
i need 1 or 2 more good gpu
then some hard drives, maytbe a couple external capture cards
and i would never ever for trillion years need more pc after that
ssd and ram market still upside down in canada
its like with that i have never gotten 3k before right
or 2500 for thta matter
8gb vram is boring in 2026 🙁
it really is
and sort of, so is 10/11/12 gb vram cards too
they cant REALLY do rtx
solid sun
The sound alerts are kinda nice
tribal wharf
i was hoping we would see the 5090 come with 32gb vram or like 48 or 64, or that can be 60 / 70 series for nvidia
solid sun
Like a little cash register sound when sudden death procs
Bam suddenly I’m executing someone
Cha Ching get got idiot
coarse bay
I believe it
solid sun
Sometimes my headset picks it up
And before I did the cash register I did text to speech
And my friend was exasperated that the game was “telling you your rotation???”
“I would be good if I could cheat like that too”
drowsy comet
Thats what I call an Prot Warrior
naive ravine
Am I missing smth or why is the top rated prot warrior running ITF with 800 haste?
solid sun
Yeah you are missing something
There’s literally zero reason to snoop on what that person is doing
echo egret
Alleria P2 : does she and the simulacrum share HP ?
The silver arrow, does it always shoot from Alleria or also from the simulacrum ?
toxic pewter
this is wat a peak prot warr in their prime looks like in 2026
toxic pewter
armor pango prot warr giga alpha
naive ravine
There’s literally zero reason to snoop on what that person is doing
Wdym?
solid sun
Whatever the top prot warrior is doing is irrelevant
They aren’t a guide, and we have no idea why they choose to do what they do
You’d have to ask them
Just like why Kira or Yoda or whoever is doing whatever they might be doing
naive ravine
Yeah thats what im asking, if anybody know why he is doing that
I dont expect an awnser but asking doesnt hurt
naive ravine
Okay and I will ignore your advice and will keep looking
warm plinth
Because high key players make mistakes too.
dusky canopy
Am I missing smth or why is the top rated prot warrior running ITF with 800 hast...
They probably figured out that they are able to keep block up with the amount of haste they have, and if you’re seeing 800 on the website odds are they are running haste flask but that’s just a guess
peak silo
I’m really struggling with the first pull of nexus any tips? I’m 272 ilvl and die a lot on 13s but only this dungeon. I keep getting a heal absorb that’s 5-10x my health
warm plinth
Same reason some of them play 1/4 phalanx (though that was also inflated by raider.io being fucky with talent display)
naive ravine
They probably figured out that they are able to keep block up with the amount of...
That does make sense
dusky canopy
Also, rhino is correct telling you not to blindly copy what the top rated io player is doing
naive ravine
He didnt tell me to not blindly copy smth the top player does, he just told me to stop looking what he does
I never stated I will copy him
sharp gale
And they are better players* so they will manage more efficiently so they can start at lower haste
dusky canopy
You do not have the same comp, communication, route, gear, skill, etc etc
sharp gale
The min amount can vary per dungeon etc
dusky canopy
What’s recommended on iceyveins is what will bring success to the majority of players
solid sun
It’s just wasted energy
naive ravine
It’s just wasted energy
Its my energy im wasting, why would you care
undone beacon
No harm in asking why someone is doing something though
People are just jaded here because a lot of people like to argue about it Seep, thats all
naive ravine
Its kind of you to try and look out for me
solid sun
I don’t. You asked a question in a public forum and I gave an opinion. Why are you so pressed by my answer
sharp gale
Yes… you are talking here
warm plinth
Guys come on, it's not serious. And this isn't constructive.
naive ravine
I think they way u said it is rly disrespectfull
undone beacon
Rhino are you good brother, this is unusually aggro for you
undone beacon
Guil can we form an off meta push team to beat up the mostly meta push team thats formed in my guild
Pwarr, spreist, ret, and some other nerds
warm plinth
Anything we say for why those folks do what they do is speculation. But really, they make mistakes like anyone else, whether it's talent choices or even gameplay. When you're surrounded by good players, you can get away with a lot.
We've seen people playing pwar in the highest keys who actually suck ass at the spec
undone beacon
I'd say rhino on devo but thats too close to meta 
Gotta get that surv hunter up and break the meta
drowsy comet
How do they smell
The best thing was he was ilvl246 in a +10 Windrunners lol, he knew what he was doing, so its most likely an alt or something
solid sun
I’d play surv but I don’t wanna take your sparkle
undone beacon
Nah the more people that play surv the better
warm plinth
We need more shotguns
daring marlin
Pwarr, spreist, ret, and some other nerds
That sounds fun
Get @lusty grotto or @toxic pewter to tank and we'll dumpster those nerds
undone beacon
A cranker rogue for big shroud skips
solid sun
Is ret not meta
warm plinth
Is outlaw cranking
dusky canopy
Outlaw owns
warm plinth
I like outlaw
solid sun
It feels like ret is meta
warm plinth
Phew
undone beacon
Meta rn is Brew/Rdruid/Aug + UDK/Devo/Demolock
warm plinth
I thought you were going to say boomie for a second
coarse bay
Ret is pretty strong, whether or not it can compete or be sidegrade to meta is questionable
dusky canopy
LOL
solid sun
Oh are we restricting meta to a specific five spec comp