protection

[drowsy comet]

i always found the purple gekkos pretty cool from TWW S3 KSM

for most ppl they look ugly, but I find them quite unique

[tribal wharf]

thats what i have and dont have

ones i do have are on the bars

[drowsy comet]

Hmm apparently only the last 3 TWW Season´s KSM Mounts will be able to choose from

yea the purple gekko looks neat

these also look pretty cool ngl

but i hate how their flying looks like

[tribal wharf]

those are like the best ones ever

i use them if i want to be annoying

[drowsy comet]

they look kinda goofy when you fly on them

look like a flying tooth paste lol

[tribal wharf]

shame i didnt get the 2 left ones, but there was no power in the universe that was capable of making me not get that red one

[undone beacon]

where did they say that

[tribal wharf]

they also have a syvlanas keyboard caps now

[coarse bay]

Did nim get kinda owned by yogi

[lusty grotto]

what?

[coarse bay]

Got peanut buttered

[drowsy comet]

80 bucks

[coarse bay]

Im very late

But that was very yogi

[drowsy comet]

80 freaking bucks for a couple of key caps

[drowsy comet]

people speculating

would be kinda insane to let you choose a mount from every season, but nothing official yet

[undone beacon]

Bro dont just say shit then

[tribal wharf]

tbf the art looks good on them

its not just basic spray job

dip

[undone beacon]

Apparently jack shit, you're just making things up

[coarse bay]

Didnt the post say u can get any prior ksm mount?

[drowsy comet]

I mean, nobody really knows anything

no need to be this rude

[undone beacon]

"This item can be brought to Lindormi in Silvermoon or the Timeways, where it can be exchanged for a mount of your choice from a curated selection. This includes Keystone Master and Keystone Legend mounts from previous seasons, as well as all new mounts being added to the pool."

[tribal wharf]

it wouldnt be the first time i bought key caps

but the issue with t hat is they were more of a pink than red

[undone beacon]

They dont, so don't make statements like "apparently X or Y" because its not apparently anything

You're spreading misinformation smh

[tribal wharf]

so they are just in a box never to be used for me lol

[undone beacon]

Apparently if you get saddle they give you a high five and a compliment and send you a puppy in the mail

[coarse bay]

Ah so it could be like the monthly shop for all we know

[tribal wharf]

so im a bit afraid that i will get scammed again if i go to buy blue or green ones

i'll think im getting navy blue or forest green

[coarse bay]

Most wowhead and blizz info should be taken with grain of salt until released anyways

[plush tendon]

as long as there is a bear mount

its worth

[tribal wharf]

and i'll get like gaucamole color and baby blue

so i dont want to order anymore again i ncase that does happen

[lusty grotto]

must be a new bear mount then

cause there hasnt been a bear KSM mount

only 2 im missing are SL s2 and s3 cause i was unsubbed

[solid sun]

Quitter

[lusty grotto]

got s1 and s4 though

rest i got

[plush tendon]

or a lion/big cat

I like bears and cats

[drowsy comet]

did BFA S4 start with KSM mounts??

[plush tendon]

[undone beacon]

Yes

[drowsy comet]

what did people get rewarded with before? a wet handshake or what

[undone beacon]

wow i cant believe theyre giving out old removed rewards this devalues my ksm mounts

[undone beacon]

Nothing

[drowsy comet]

then it makes sense that it could be all previous KSM/KSL mounts, so indeed my message was bullshit then

but still no excuse to be this rude to me pash

[solid sun]

Us keystone veterans just did it for the love of the game, lil gup

[undone beacon]

No spreading misinformation on the internet

[drowsy comet]

a flying dick woohoo

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/shut-up-dont-talk-V0mpTLFzJRrQWkpUcr

[clear silo]

Not sure which to take, I have tier set shoulders already

[lusty grotto]

holy hell

[drowsy comet]

okay wtf

[lusty grotto]

is that a phone pic?

[drowsy comet]

dude we are in 2026, you can use a screenshot

[lusty grotto]

use Windows Key + Shift + S

[tribal wharf]

giga glare

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-cat-slap-cat-gif-22044106

[lusty grotto]

for those levels of items, you sim

since you can and will get better

259 is what? champ track?

[daring marlin]

@tribal wharf give this man the shortcut

[clear silo]

I don’t have discord on my laptop lol, using my work one lol

[tribal wharf]

and wipe your screen with very lighly dampened cloth, or micro fibre cloth

[lusty grotto]

oh hero

either way

you sim

[daring marlin]

I'm crying lol

[tribal wharf]

i know from experience is the punchline

[drowsy comet]

i had to, im sorry

[lusty grotto]

i just have to ask

youre using

your work laptop with WoW

but not discord?

uhhh....

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

i dont think youre fooling IT by having one and not the other

and you can just load up discord as a website

without installing

[clear silo]

I genuinely don’t know I could go on discord in browser lmao 🤣

What a rxtard

lol

[drowsy comet]

[lusty grotto]

best way to double discord

[drowsy comet]

you gotta have priorities

[coarse bay]

But have you ever triple discorded

Because i havent

[drowsy comet]

but yes, Win + Shift + S is your BEST FRIEND for a screenshot

[daring marlin]

Discorception

@lusty grotto we getting 1% title or what bro

[drowsy comet]

might aswell join MDI

[daring marlin]

hell no

[solid sun]

Guil

When are we doing keys

[drowsy comet]

Either go all in, or go home

or something like that

[solid sun]

I’ll carry you dude

[daring marlin]

[solid sun]

I’m devourer is almost 90

[undone beacon]

wow you hate me now i get it

[drowsy comet]

but with the mount thingy..did Dragonflight seriously just rewarded you with a ground mount

[solid sun]

I carried pash’s alts

I’m not dead weight!

I press my rampage button Heckin’ good dude

[daring marlin]

you too

I wonder if my dk will get loot if I go in as frost

ONE WAY TO FIND OUT

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/old-linda-feat-de5bARu0SsXiU

[undone beacon]

Its not per spec iirc

[solid sun]

Lil gup

Find one group that doesn’t make you cry in discord

Challenge impossible

[daring marlin]

Also why is the main action bar incapable of being hidden in combat but every other bar is?

I'm much too lazy to change all my binds

[dusky canopy]

Is it not hideable?

[daring marlin]

or get an addon

bar 1 isn't

[drowsy comet]

I play with pugs, Im hardened

[daring marlin]

every other bar is

[daring marlin]

I cackled

[lusty grotto]

do any of you have a seat

member when i said i wouldnt farm loot

well

[solid sun]

I might. I haven’t taken my vault option yet

[lusty grotto]

that was a lie

i still need seat gloves, for free uppies and good measure

best seat build

[daring marlin]

fuck that slow and the dashers

[undone beacon]

i think i have a 15 seat

[lusty grotto]

no slow = no charges, ez money

[solid sun]

I got that alleria necklace in my vault. Is the void anvil or whatever it’s called going to let us transform H raid items into M raid items?

[lusty grotto]

[daring marlin]

Only weapons and trinkets

[lusty grotto]

from hero to myth? i highly doubt it

but i could be wrong

[solid sun]

Well there’s an M Chest in my vault too which I assumed the robot would tell me to take anyways

But when I saw the necklace I was curious

[daring marlin]

In wowhead the items are listed as "heroic extend" and "mythic extend" so Pash is prolly right

[undone beacon]

[daring marlin]

many such cases

[solid sun]

What did Pash say

[daring marlin]

track extension

mythic will always be top

So I'll prolly still need to farm a 2H

[solid sun]

Yeah that makes sense

[daring marlin]

aw well

MC 2h good

[solid sun]

Pash thinks he’s so smart

[daring marlin]

and loot pool small

[lusty grotto]

ill prolly rip the bad luck thing on seat

after getting a 2h

[solid sun]

Since dungeon bonus rolls only cost 1 instead of 2

[lusty grotto]

if that ever happens

[solid sun]

If you’re behind on getting M items doesn’t it make sense to just grind out dungeons

More M items

[lusty grotto]

it does

[undone beacon]

More items but also more in the pool so you mnay have less of a shot at what you want

But at 1 roll instead of 2 each, its more efficient usually

Especially if theres a dungeon with a lot of potential items you can use

[placid fox]

thoughts? Gaze trinket ?
I'm purely playing M+

[plush tendon]

Prob a Gaze or Shoulder angle imo

[solid sun]

What track is 266

Champ?

[plush tendon]

depends if you ever intend to get into a Myth Chim pug

[placid fox]

hc

[plush tendon]

hero

[placid fox]

yeah was thinking the same, but even if I do I think it's worth the upgrade to take HC trinket. Thanks!

[plush tendon]

before you take though, run heroic raid

you might just get it to drop

I usually recommend against taking hero raid pieces cause technically, its farmable

at least for longterm character progression

especially if you M+ only, weekly vault is legit the only way you get myth pieces

[placid fox]

🫡 agreed!

[plush tendon]

but Gaze is very strong and a hero gaze prob beats out everything else but mythic gaze (check with sim though!)

[solid sun]

I’m so out of touch

This legend comes in with a full gambit of raid slots in their vault

And says they purely m+

[plush tendon]

its heroic raid

[solid sun]

It’s still raid

[orchid mural]

lol

[plush tendon]

just depends on what you got access to

I do heroic raid to fill up vault slots on alts so I dont get screwed and only get 2 tokens

some people I raid with have alt mythic runs where they get 4 bosses done on like a sunday night

to gear up for M+ pushing

[coarse bay]

My monk took 1/3 of a socket

[plush tendon]

actually the worst

Im sorry

[solid sun]

What about your shaman

[coarse bay]

I forgot

My vaults were very mid this week

[solid sun]

Does that mean you’re rerolling

[coarse bay]

Idk

Im cooked

I had to take boots that drop off jungle birb on my main

[drowsy comet]

a heroic pair of shoulders would be sick for me, then I can catalyze that and dont have to worry for a while. Till Im focusing on mythic stuff

[coarse bay]

Down bad

[drowsy comet]

i got hero chest set piece, 3 pc on Hero currently

this week imma catch up on the voidforge weeklies, so next week i dont have to worry about that

Delves, Dungeons, Raidbosse. Blizzard could atleast be a little more creative

[mighty valley]

like what

[lusty grotto]

kinda feels like social media talking points

as if we're forgetting about the past

[daring marlin]

only thing I'd like is scaling prey that awards more

otherwise, I'm having fun

[lusty grotto]

that'd be sick to expand the system

[daring marlin]

Better systems than stuff we had in the past

[mighty valley]

prey as a way to get delve key fragments is SO much better than the awful worldsoul event things from last expansion

[toxic pewter]

I need an adult O_O

[solid sun]

Illidan

In jail

Still doing heroin

Also changed classes

[toxic pewter]

hhe been in there 10 thousand year

[solid sun]

One of my friends in a different guild had a dude going on a rant about the bonus roll system being garbage

But I think it’s pretty slick

[toxic pewter]

how does it work

cant i like choose wat i want or something

[solid sun]

Everytime you use one you’re guaranteed a piece of loot

But it’s a roll

And you can’t get the same item again

It’s knocked off the list once you get something

[toxic pewter]

can i choose wat loot i want

[solid sun]

No but you can’t choose which boss or dungeon

[daring marlin]

You get what you deserve for inviting what is certainly a UDK.

[toxic pewter]

what if i already got the item

LOL

yep

udk

[daring marlin]

You signed up for that buddy

[toxic pewter]

i didnt inv him technically

but i will suffer the consequences

u r right

[daring marlin]

Maybe he'll be the diamond in the rough

[limber bison]

What's everyone's favorite healer for M+ this season? Currently 3300~ and I definitely feel the pally and holy priest kits don't work as well with prot warriors compared to other healers 🤔 What do you guys think?

[toxic pewter]

he got a myth alnseerr

[daring marlin]

shamans own

[toxic pewter]

so he better at least do some dam

yah def resto shaman imo

[daring marlin]

Joke's in you, he was the only person in that kill to die twice.

[toxic pewter]

LOL

[daring marlin]

And he was rewarded for floor pov.

[toxic pewter]

holy f

[daring marlin]

MANY SUCH CASES

[limber bison]

Shammys and druids have both been pretty solid for prot warriors this season

[lusty grotto]

m a n y s u c h c a s e s

[daring marlin]

Hands down best trumpism

[undone beacon]

obamna

SODA!!

[daring marlin]

ROFL

[plush tendon]

Pres is underrated

especially if no aug

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto I'll see if I have a seat on my lock

Pretty sure DK has pit

again

[lusty grotto]

nice nice

[frosty mango]

I had a 16 seat

It’s now a 12 seat

This is the price I pay for pugging

[frosty mango]

Monk is disgusting rn until it gets nerfed

[toxic pewter]

@daring marlin dude this ret was owning the udk

[daring marlin]

I own udks every time

they suck shit

[manic siren]

is there an estimation yet which dungeon we'll be focusing with voidforge?

[toxic pewter]

yah ngl

this opened my eyes a bit to udk

[daring marlin]

I agree here. I think the only dungeon they have some trouble is MT? Probably?

[frosty mango]

Imo udk was only choice in prior seasons due to grips but this season blessing of freedom is just vastly better utility than grip, espec now that we have blanket range silence

[mighty valley]

there's honestly no good new ones that are sticking this time around. we're not getting another very legal very cool

[daring marlin]

Tell him to put down the spoon, syringe and belt.

...smh

[limber bison]

I guess I'll try more monk heals then, and see how they compare to druids for us

[daring marlin]

Even his nicknames suck now. Marjorie Traitor Brown? He lost his mojo.

[frosty mango]

Monk does similar healing output with much higher on demand burst, has stronger utility, and does idiotic amounts of damage

[daring marlin]

I'll stop sleeping on monk healers then. lol

[frosty mango]

Druids do get snare immune which is pretty big this season, and they are very mobile

[daring marlin]

I overlook them for Shamans and Druids tbh.

[frosty mango]

I mean my monk in dogshit gear does 50k overall dps and 200k+ on big aoe packs, and has no issue ripping off 300-400k hps if needed

[daring marlin]

Priests are super hit or mis, especially Disc. I feel like the group either takes zero damage or we're struggling.

[frosty mango]

I can’t fathom a monk with fatty gear isn’t a behemoth

[daring marlin]

depending on the player

[toxic pewter]

:nodders:

[solid sun]

I know a monk that struggles

Couldn’t heal a brew in a 12 AA during the bird boss

[mighty valley]

he should've kept saying the full nickname every time

[daring marlin]

ROFL

[solid sun]

Does a picture depicting yourself as Jesus count as a Trumpism

[daring marlin]

Lightweight FORMER Congresswoman Marjorie Traitor Brown

[mighty valley]

um, clearly a doctor

[solid sun]

Wasn’t he surrounded by angels and glowing

[daring marlin]

And a demon in the clouds

[undone beacon]

oh we talking about the "red cross nurse" ai picture

[solid sun]

Maybe when he typed into that grok image creator he said

“Me cosplaying as Guilford doing +15s”

And that’s what it spat out

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/deus-vult-intensifies-gif-17229494701430916841

Me doing keys

[undone beacon]

[toxic pewter]

[solid sun]

Guil does the two button spec

Because he’s busy curling while doing keys

One hand divine storming

The other hand curling 155 lbs

Then swap

[frosty mango]

That’s just the normal ret spec tho

[solid sun]

Ya

This made me think of guil actually

https://x.com/fightwithmemes/status/2043965983753191877?s=46

Fight With Memes (@FightWithMemes)

You didn't know it as a kid, but Ash Ketchum was an absolute HOSS

▶ Play video

X · Apr 14, 2026, 8:14 AM

[jagged pier]

no

[solid sun]

probably already tested this out

[tribal wharf]

i dont want to be the very best like no one ever was

100% not for pokemon at least

not any more

[lofty warren]

Major naylor green out there making everyone mad. S tier rage baiter

[frank surge]

any1 here pumping with loa ring? consider crafting it after vault replaced one of my embellished items

[lusty grotto]

just sim any craft options

[cerulean tusk]

What is a "hoss"

Well, as Ash is a kid, he aint a "hoss"

Kid is an absolute godlike being, Hercules got nothing on Ash strength and feats

[mighty valley]

hoss is slang for horse. so like. big and strong

[cerulean tusk]

AI said southern USA slang for a large, dependent and strong man.

[mighty valley]

yeah

from westerns and stuff

[cerulean tusk]

Ash aint that

Ash is a kid

[shrewd moss]

horses are also large and dependable. i could see it

[lusty grotto]

but is he

[lusty grotto]

by my count ash is 50 years old

today

[cerulean tusk]

Ash held a black hole or whatever, Ash is god

[coarse bay]

Ash is mash, therefor a potato

[jagged pier]

hes held something heavier

[lusty grotto]

could you translate that to american

[lusty grotto]

what in the everliving fuck

[toxic pewter]

how many stone do i weigh

[solid sun]

at least 7

[lusty grotto]

at least 2,000 quartz

[jagged pier]

man is yoked

[lusty grotto]

certified hoss

[cerulean tusk]

No

Cause he is small and a kid

Hoss is large and strong as a horse, Ash aint that

Ash is a kid

[lusty grotto]

no hes 50 years old

[cerulean tusk]

Noh

[toxic pewter]

is ash still the main character of modern pokemon

[cerulean tusk]

Wonder if humans in the Pokemon universe are like silly strong, and casually could fold the strongest of Pokemon as a child

Thus Pokemon live in total fear of humanity and does whatever to placate our silly ideas of how to do things

There are Pokemon hotter than the sun

We hug em for fun

Pokemon makes sense

(mewtwo was super strong and could threaten humans, thanks to having human DNA, change my mind)

[tribal wharf]

I quit after gold

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld-2

[tribal wharf]

so i wouldnt know

that, and mewtwo has a pretty high speed and extremely high special attack

so it 1 shots a ton of shit with physic , with high chance to confusion

learns any attack

you must not have been there in whatever it was 1996 or so, with your whole team gets deleted to 1 lvl 100 mewtwo

[rocky fossil]

is into the fray the better talent? 10 yards isn't much. I'm running the basic wowhead talents but I'm starting to need some more defensives now

[jagged pier]

itf isnt more defensive than hr

[lusty grotto]

dont run the wowhead talents, we only support icy-veins in midnight

and check the pinned post

and what jakey said

[rocky fossil]

oh that is useful pin

[tribal wharf]

they should disable that message from showing in a keystone

if the servers arent coming down or it wont fuck with my key

unnecessary stress and uncertainty ,

[rocky fossil]

is "last stand" a bad talent?

[tribal wharf]

"yes"

[lusty grotto]

its a whatever talent, depending on key level

[tribal wharf]

more bad than good

[rocky fossil]

how much dmg doers bloodborne get? if I wanted to be more tanky, where should I move that point to?

[lusty grotto]

BSV

[tribal wharf]

bsv is good yes

[rocky fossil]

thanks

[tribal wharf]

im too lazy to animate this properly

shit post editing

[rocky fossil]

10/10 ❤️

[shut marsh]

do u guys use shield charge for your raids?

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[shut marsh]

was thinking of using the point somewhere else

[ionic fern]

No.

Good talk.

[shut marsh]

top parsers/dpsers barely or dont use it at all

and i barely use it myself tbh

[solid sun]

Nah it just doesn't show up in logs correctly

[shut marsh]

even the amount of times its used?

[solid sun]

Correct

[shut marsh]

i see

[ionic fern]

It's 100% picked.

o.o

[shut marsh]

ye when checking logs its barely used but like rhino said theres an issue

[tribal wharf]

to me not taking shield charge is for as long as i play pwar

i dont think i will ever unbind it

[plush tendon]

Shield Charge is a 100% must take

[toxic pewter]

any prot warr not using shield charge pretty much on cooldown is truly lost

especially with this seasons tier set

[shut marsh]

[lusty grotto]

wat

[lusty grotto]

what he said is incorrect correct

its used on cd

tier does not matter

[undone beacon]

Thats what he said

[lusty grotto]

oh

well i misread

[undone beacon]

Not using shield charge on CD = truly lost

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

Hi @ionic fern ily

[fringe mural]

sometimes you look at it being ready while you still press ss/tb all the time

[solid sun]

Guys

I'm having an annoying UI related issue

And I think you're capable of fixing it for me

Because clearly I'm an idiot

[lusty grotto]

no

[tribal wharf]

they are buffing hell out of holy paladin

20%

for a few spell

maybe they are worth taking to keys now

[solid sun]

This happens on all my characters, I just so happen to be on my DH rn. I go into edit mode and I move all this shit up so it's closer to my character but I can still see stuff under my feet. I hit save. Then I close out of edit mode and it all moves right back here

[lusty grotto]

profile issue

[tribal wharf]

do you alt f4 out

[coarse bay]

It might need to be edited or adjusted in the addon itself?

[tribal wharf]

i tend to do things the correct way and log out, exit the game by button

[solid sun]

I thought better cdm was just a skin

[lusty grotto]

it has its own profile

so does blizzard's cdm

so does edit mode

blizzard's cdm controls spell order/filtering and bar/icon toggles

bettercdm or any cdm addon control other things

positioning should be handled by edit mode

[fringe mural]

dafuq i messed up the priority, maybe i had the one from wowhead still in my head

[frank dust]

is there ever a situation where you go haste mastery on prot war

[fringe mural]

sc first it is

[lusty grotto]

sure

[frank dust]

i saw during beta kira was running it and it was fucking slamming

[lusty grotto]

we go haste mastery when thats our highest ilvl

like this

[frank dust]

why are meeres and yipz running it in mdi? im trying to figure out what im missing tbh

[lusty grotto]

who knows

there's no real advantage to running x stat (after haste)

[plush tendon]

sims

[warm plinth]

Our stats are pretty close. Depending on your current stats, some may be better than others. Stacking stats to the exclusion of others on purpose is generally a bad idea.

[plush tendon]

sometimes mastery is a really good stat for dps

[coarse bay]

I mean what does running haste mastery even mean

[lusty grotto]

highest ilvl and sims pretty much

[coarse bay]

They have other stats too

[plush tendon]

by end of last season, I was using a vers/mastery ring

[warm plinth]

You're a vers/mastery ring

Gottem

[coarse bay]

I was gonna say i did the same

But u got gotten

[plush tendon]

[jagged pier]

[warm plinth]

I need an animated emoji of my skull and a skeleton finger pointing that says gottem

[ionic fern]

Hei, ily.
Hope you're doing good.

[warm plinth]

Doing fantastic. Hope you're well too! ❤️

[undone beacon]

love wins

[warm plinth]

Always does!

[lusty grotto]

oh

flexible mythic in the next raid

interesting

[plush tendon]

so good

cut the raid to 15, bring 10 carries

[fringe mural]

Between what numbers?

10-30?

[warm plinth]

15-25

[fringe mural]

uuh

okay

25 is back bitches

but 15 is probably the most fun tbh

[warm plinth]

Supposed to be to make the transition from heroic to mythic easier

[chilly brook]

L change tbh

fight is just going to be objectively easier at a specific player count

[coarse bay]

Ya but as long as it isnt somehow competitive or serious, it doesnt matter

Lets more people try it with friends etc

They just cant make it too hard outside of the optimal comp/count

Or else they pretty much force it

[solid sun]

I can mythic now!?

lol jk 15 is still too many friends I don't have

[fallow fern]

Does loa worshiper band count as an embellishment?

[undone beacon]

Yes

[daring marlin]

@frosty mango

lol

[fallow fern]

Ah ok, so probably not as good as Arcanoweave?

[undone beacon]

Sim it

[fallow fern]

K

[solid sun]

Wait a second.

Look at how it's worded

It's presented as its own difficulty

So what if that means hall of fame is reserved specifically for mythic

and mythic flex just provides m gear

maybe its own achievement

[frosty mango]

Told you lol

[sacred elk]

Man, it’s torturous looking at the Wowhead comment section lol I was just looking into that.

[lofty warren]

Did they miss one of the specs? I dont see it

[frosty mango]

Nah brew and shadow priest are gonna get the fat wiener don’t worry

Saving the best for last

[lofty warren]

When

[undone beacon]

what the heck did shadow do

[frosty mango]

Exist

[lusty grotto]

this healing tuning is strange

[frosty mango]

I’m a career priest remember, this is the part of the cycle where you get aura nerfed bc your spread is too strong

[lusty grotto]

like i understand hpal buffs for sure

[lofty warren]

Rumor on the street is that shadow psycho link is going to get changed

[lusty grotto]

i dont understand rdruid moonkin damage increase though

and rsham buff

but i havent played those so idk

[frosty mango]

They are trying to kill the meme Shieluns gift spam build for monk but in typical blizzard fashion they tune with a sledgehammer so the change will break the sg build but also crush monk m+ and normal builds

[lofty warren]

I like rsham buffs another good healer so not always with druid

[lusty grotto]

i suppose rsham hurts on heal absorbs due to mastery not helping or something?

[lofty warren]

They were already low on m+ tier list down to the f tier with them

[lusty grotto]

both them and mw were beasts in raids

[frosty mango]

Yea but not 5% aura nerf beast

[lusty grotto]

yeah idk

[frosty mango]

And mw was only strong bc of one stupid fight with the meme Shieluns build

[lusty grotto]

i dont feel like healing needed nerfs either

more like buffs to certain classes (hpal, holy priest)

[opal ledge]

how hard is for a pug group to kill imperator averizan on mythic?

[frosty mango]

Right now, hard for your average pug

[lofty warren]

Updated m+ healer tier list just dropped

[frosty mango]

Will probably be pretty easy (relatively) for first 3 in 6-8 weeks

Because it will be next tier

[lyric kestrel]

can someone help me with my vault? 😄 im not sure if i should take shield or socket.

[plush tendon]

you mythic raid, so wait till after raid

since you are prob first prio on shield

the boots dont seem bad and Im like 95% sure if you cata boots they turn into haste/crit

[lofty warren]

Do you switch hr/itf talents based on your current haste or your unbuffed haste (base stats without consumes and procs and buffs)?

[daring marlin]

LMFAOOOOO

[pallid quiver]

but the poor hpal

[toxic pewter]

WHO GOIN COLOSSUS WITH ME NESXT WEEK

[jagged pier]

me

currently a 20s cd on demo

[toxic pewter]

HELL YEA

[jagged pier]

on 3+ targets

[toxic pewter]

thats great

[lament osprey]

Going brew before colossus

[opal ledge]

something went wrong in dream rift and i tanked the spirit phase twice in a row lol

[toxic pewter]

[opal ledge]

i didnt know you could survive the 600% dmg increase that easy

[jagged pier]

bsv probably

[toxic pewter]

who was upstairs tanking the boss

i guess u coul tank it down there

lol

[lofty warren]

Colosusus bis hero talent 12.5?

[toxic pewter]

maybe

[jagged pier]

nah equal

[opal ledge]

what colossus will gain?

[jagged pier]

damage

[opal ledge]

just 15% thudnercalp dmg?

[toxic pewter]

more cdr for demolish mainly

[vivid orchid]

Demo CD in aoe being cut from 30-40s to like 20

[solid sun]

I’m quitting warrior

[pallid quiver]

nuh-uh

[solid sun]

I can’t live up to APB’s expectations

[toxic pewter]

lol

my only expectation is u have fun 😄

[solid sun]

I axed all my addons dude

I was going nuts

I’m about to have so much fun rebuilding

[toxic pewter]

i have too many addons my loading screens take like 20 min to load

[lofty warren]

I would switch to col if they added thos line "casting demolish reduces avatar cd by 5 seconds. Casting demolish while in avatar is an instant cast"

Cdr on avatar can be gained while in avatar

[autumn heron]

Sounds broken af

[fallow fern]

This sim says I should craft both rings.. but i dont see anyone else crafting rings.. am I missing something?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ke3fTKQYaJuDWpnatMseek

[lusty grotto]

everyone's gear is different

[toxic pewter]

i crafted a ring myself just a normal one but people seemingly like that loa ring i hear about

[lofty warren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aTo7cdrFVANVTMUFJSHQX6 why does sim say to use delve trinket over these heroic ones that arent listed as f tier

[fallow fern]

Archon (i know not totally reliable) doesnt even show it on the list of crafted items for prot warr

[daring marlin]

why would you want the channel where you take less damage during it to be instant?

[lofty warren]

You are stuck in place while casting so if you need to move ur screwed. Could easily change it to say "instant cast and when demolish is cast gain dr 10% for 2 sec"

[daring marlin]

brother it's 2s

[opal ledge]

as colossus, in the like first algethar pull... does it make sense to hold demolish to keep the 30% amp on rend and heal a lot?

[toxic pewter]

demolishing rooting u in place actually has benefits, ton of shit knock u back in these dungeons and crap learning when they occur and demolishing them can be solid

in dungeons we usually take the 30% dam to revenge

[opal ledge]

in AA i find the healing quite useful

[toxic pewter]

never hold demolish imo just keep sending it

[brisk flax]

These guys macroing their Shield Block to Shield Slam are crazy lol

Craziest advice I have ever watched in a video for prot

[lofty warren]

If you get knocked back you can charge

[lusty grotto]

thats not advice, thats the opposite of it

unless they are using it only to SB

[brisk flax]

Exactly hahaha how to fail 101

I can see making a macro to use to hit both at the same exact time in that instance where you need to use both at one time but then I dont have a problem just hitting both buttons at the same time lol

[lusty grotto]

theres no instance where you have to hit both at the same time though

[brisk flax]

Ya that would be super rare and pointless to make a macro for it

[mighty valley]

have you ever thought ahead while playing wow

[frosty mango]

because raw stats are worth a lot

[lofty warren]

Thinking ahead? Didn't know this was disc priest talk

[lusty grotto]

uhh

youre baiting right?

[outer willow]

[frosty mango]

I mean, its not egregious advice depending on the context

are you running 6 keys on your warrior alt and dont want to push? macroing SB to SS is just going to put up block for you and have it risk falling off mid packs but its not as egregious as macroing IP to SS

[lusty grotto]

prot warrior, the preventive (not reactionary) tank?

[frosty mango]

that being said, you shouldn't

you should watch more prot videos, the advice gets way crazier

[dapper iris]

Is there a way to make heroic leap show reticle but jump on release?

[brisk flax]

Funny thing is I read a guide on like IV or Wowhead one time that suggested macroing IP to SS lol

I was like wut

LOL

[lusty grotto]

yes thats accurate advice

[rocky fossil]

the cape is myth tracked, should I craft belt with arcanoweave?

[lusty grotto]

you need to read the fine print

[brisk flax]

why not just manage it yourself?

[frosty mango]

ya this is common and good practice assuming you use the macro the way its stated to be used

you do

[lusty grotto]

read the fine print

youre just not getting it

[lofty warren]

spell reflect and shield wall are the only preventive aspects? But sw is like any tank defensive that gives you dr (thinking of barkskin as an analogy)

[lusty grotto]

this part is very important

[frosty mango]

the entire warrior mitigation kit is preventative except for impending victory

[lofty warren]

Shield block use without thought unless you are not tanking

[brisk flax]

@lusty grotto I read the fine print but that is not Macroing your IP to your SS, that is macroing your SS to your IP that's different

[rocky fossil]

or should I go for the weapon / shield despite belt giving more ilvl?

[frosty mango]

who was the guy who was hard on macroing IP to SS

a few weeks ago

[lusty grotto]

correct, but also you mentioned the guides and the guides VERY SPECIFICALLY mention why or how to use it

[frosty mango]

dude almost gave me an anyeruism

[lusty grotto]

the guides are NOT wrong

the video you mentioned might be

[wary gyro]

i feel like we've had a few of those guys come through

[lofty warren]

I still disagree with that across that puts ss and revenge together

[brisk flax]

in that same context you could macro your SS to your SB

[lofty warren]

That macrk

[lusty grotto]

yes, which is why i said

[brisk flax]

But these idiots are saying to do it the other way lol

[lusty grotto]

right thats just wrong

[frosty mango]

I personally don't think macroing SB to SS would have negative impact for the vast majority of the prot warrior playerbase..its probably an improvement for most of them if anything.

But if you've made it here to this discord its not the right advice for folks here

Who hopefully have enough IQ to comprehend the impact and benefit of doing it properly

[lofty warren]

Why on earth would you macro sb and ss? Sounds illegal

Ss not always highest on priority list

[brisk flax]

You wouldnt hahaha

[severe star]

how good is the eternal egg

[frosty mango]

were back to the pepega ragebait arc

[brisk flax]

[lofty warren]

100% tb > ss instead aoe and st

[frosty mango]

were not falling for it

[lusty grotto]

very mid

[lofty warren]

Yes speaking the truth is rage bait

You must hate encykopedias

[frosty mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/angry-elijah-wood-qVXWm4kb6rRgA

[severe star]

okay thats what I was thinking it just felt like an extra IP every now and then I rarely get the haste

[frosty mango]

nim reading your comment

[lusty grotto]

no

hes right

[frosty mango]

not in the context of why you wouldnt macro sb to ss

lol

[lofty warren]

Ser here from icy vein

[lusty grotto]

i mean what hes talking about TB > SS

the bait is the whole "what are we disc priests on thinking ahead", which the answer is "YES YES WE ARE"

if you want to be a reaction based tank, play BDK

otherwise just hard talent LS

and prayge

[rocky fossil]

so, 250 ilvl belt vs 276 shield / weapon, do I craft shield/weapon or belt with Arcanoweave?

[lofty warren]

Every tank has proactive things even bdk with amz ams and their shield wall equivalents

[lusty grotto]

duh

[mighty valley]

i'm mostly just making fun of pepega for thinking it's impossible to plan a two second cast time in a way that won't get you killed

[lofty warren]

I dislike when I start casting and then I have to move so either I eat the damage or move and interrupt the cast

[lusty grotto]

too bad

just dont play colossus then

problem solved

[lofty warren]

[opal ledge]

is it too bad on my part to sell a puzzle box i got from a 10 instead of giving for free?

[mighty valley]

have you ever played a caster

[opal ledge]

i barely have gold for repair

[mighty valley]

it's pretty rude

[undone beacon]

@lusty grotto what internet provider do you use

[lusty grotto]

xfinity

[undone beacon]

It is considered a dick move typically unless they offered to buy it first

[mighty valley]

how would you respond if someone tried to charge you for a trinket

[lusty grotto]

lecomcast

[tribal wharf]

in about another month or 2 i will have compltely free repairs for armor

[opal ledge]

i also just asked for 5k not much tho

[lusty grotto]

honestly i prefer verizon fiber but... not available where i am atm

[lofty warren]

I did long time back pvp healer in cata wotlk wod and balance druid in bfa

[opal ledge]

is puzzle box better on colossus than on thane?

[lofty warren]

Even more casts? My gosh

[mighty valley]

probably if you're actually able to fit a max stacked demolish in it

[opal ledge]

hmm... with colossus changes, maybe that myth puzzle box could be good

[lusty grotto]

why do you ask @undone beacon ?

[jagged pier]

Its good for both its just bleh to usd

[undone beacon]

Sorry got a call.
I’m stuck with Verizon and they have been sucking butt this week

Going to miss another raid night due to outages, on fiber

[lusty grotto]

well shit

just tether it

[undone beacon]

I’m about to invest in a 5g backup

Hit up my contacts at Fortinet and be like hey

[lusty grotto]

wow does pretty well on tethering surprisingly

[undone beacon]

But yeah I was curious if you were on Verizon and having issues too or if it’s just a localized thing

[opal ledge]

i play with 200ms 🙁

[undone beacon]

oof

[coarse bay]

I, too, play 170-200 for a lot of what i do

Not the biggest deal tbh for most specs

[lusty grotto]

if its consistent 200ms its doable

but if its OCE to NA 200 to 300ms... nah

that shit is awful

[opal ledge]

oce i go to 500

[undone beacon]

I play at like 20ms lmao

Or I don’t get to play at all thanks Verizon

[lusty grotto]

yeah i cap at 30ms, and when im taking care of my parents its like 60ms

[undone beacon]

I did call and kafetch and they took $10 of my monthly bill for a year

[lusty grotto]

a whole 10 bucks

[undone beacon]

A whole 10 buckaroos

💰

[opal ledge]

i still picked nothing from my vault i think i will just take tier gloves
box is annoying to use, and i don't see much use for solar core (i dont have a heroic one to test it)
losing heart of wind haste doesnt seems to worth the solar core active

[coarse bay]

Ya oce - NA east is bad. West coast is very manageable

[lusty grotto]

i bet

[coarse bay]

Its always like putting on glasses and seeing clearly when im on my normal 10 ping

I forget that the game feels that way

[loud rune]

XD 2 of us died at boss, we finished it and they couldnt release after so we thought okay lets jump off to reset combat timer, now were all stuck and cant abandon either

peak

[coarse bay]

Was that at the 2nd boss

[loud rune]

the last one at the bridge

[coarse bay]

Same happened to us, except they suicided to bridge pack and it worked

[loud rune]

before mainboss

yea we tried to jump off too, but no workie

[coarse bay]

Ya they were perma combat with boss somehow for us

[loud rune]

yep same

[quiet matrix]

Avoidance or Leech? 💀

[opal ledge]

leech

[lusty grotto]

ilvl

if you mean enchants, then leech

as stated in the icyveins guide

[tribal wharf]

so, there is a new steam game out and its you are a mmo tank and its called dont loose aggro

[lusty grotto]

its not new

[tribal wharf]

new to me, still, i have to check this shit out

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

it was on early access for a while

[opal ledge]

i saw this other day on twitter too

sounds cool

i might give it a try

[lusty grotto]

kinda since last year

[fluid widget]

Currently swapped tough as nails for a point in Last Stand. Is there a better defensive talent that I can use? Feeling squishy in 13-14s for a couple pulls (first pull MC, nexus point, skyreach after first boss etc)

[tribal wharf]

bruh its not new

loloool

its been out for 1 day

[tribal wharf]

or like, less

[lusty grotto]

cant read

[tribal wharf]

wow thats alot of words

[civic garnet]

I tried to play Topicx talents points and it's pretty good for survival I thought, but you gotta give up 4/4 phalanx for 1/4

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/facepalm-really-3

[civic garnet]

hahaha

I know

[lusty grotto]

let me just say

that for 13s

and 14s

you do not need LS

it does jack shit

you dont even need BSV

which is vastly superior

[fluid widget]

So it’s a just play better kinda situation?

Not being defensive, that legit can be the solution

[tribal wharf]

im bad at the start of MT with the avoid the rings maze, i find it a bit hard lol

more often than not caught

[lunar haven]

You can jump down the left side and ranged pull the mini boss

[civic garnet]

There's a route you can always take and work everytime

[lunar haven]

No dodging required

Makes getting haste book super ez

[quiet matrix]

I was told in MT you can start it as M0, get book then restart to go for key but havent tried it

[solid sun]

I can’t wrap my head around the fascination with going 1/4 apex

And it’s going to bait me all season long

[coarse bay]

Personally, despite all the haters, am a 4/4 enjoyer

[solid sun]

I can avoid getting baited by so many things but the 1/4 thing just absolutely bewilders me

[coarse bay]

I succumb to bait

[fluid widget]

ok and then other question, am I going with Icyveins or Wowhead's talents? Couple of differences (bloodborne vs Bloodsurge, armor specialization vs fight through the flames)

[coarse bay]

Because the record must be set straight

[coarse bay]

Icyveins

For everything pwar currently

[quiet matrix]

I have been baited. Using it right now and its fine ish in 15s

[coarse bay]

That is not what he means by baited

He means responding to conversations regarding it

[quiet matrix]

Oh sorry

[coarse bay]

You shouldnt use anything less than 4/4

[quiet matrix]

This is the bait right 🤣

[fluid widget]

okie I'll fix all my shit

[quiet matrix]

I mean Ill try. With resi keys I got nothing to loose

[solid sun]

The bait is going 1/4 and advertising it because this build flying around is cursed and poop

[fluid widget]

didnt wowhead used to be updated by nom

[solid sun]

4/4 gaming is giga

Nom retired

He’s sunbathing now

[coarse bay]

No, 4/4 is very strong and there’s nothing on the tree worth dropping it for

[fluid widget]

good for him, respect the dedication for so long

[coarse bay]

There’s other talents you can swap around, but not apex

[solid sun]

Dropping apex and going to other stuff loses the 5% Dr from the apex and iirc nim simmed it and saw it lost like 15k dps

Insane losses

[edgy patrol]

Any subtle tips to parse as pwar? (during reclears)

[severe star]

I have 32 Spire runs and still no heart

[quiet matrix]

I dropped it on my alt and some guy offered me 400k to sell it to him 😂

Unfortunately it was upgrade c:

Was gonna be rich

[hardy snow]

ngl, lura on hc is quite cool

[severe star]

Some guy in one of my keys got it didnt need it because they had it then they said no imma vendor

[quiet matrix]

bruh

[sick shell]

That's gotta be trolling

[quiet matrix]

Guy must have never suffered

Or yes an absolute troll

[tribal wharf]

how the fuck does lura actually work

[quiet matrix]

Help a mate out :/

[tribal wharf]

no not with the lasers

well, i mean, depend on your definition of laser

the, bomb, lasers

theres bombs and a laser light path

[severe star]

light amplification by the stimulated emission of radiation

[tribal wharf]

the rotating fan whatever, just SR it

[hardy snow]

you mean the laser that clear marks when she spins around?

it starts on tank and goes clockwise, its just for the marks

[tribal wharf]

it seems like its totally random

if you can blow up a bomb or no

[hardy snow]

there is nothing random about it

it shows the order of marks and shortly after starts clearing them and they must be put in order by players

[quiet matrix]

How do you guys sim? Is there a survivability sim? :/ The sim in raidbot only tells me what improves my damage

[tribal wharf]

huh, , i mean, like, some times i see the bombs are flashing

during that phase, and i figure thats what you blow up and then that disables 1 of the circles on there is a bunch of purple circles

not the rain

[frosty mango]

There is no such thing as survivability

Your gear is largely irrelevant in terms of survivability sans shield

[fringe meteor]

if you have spell reflect up for bellamy's shield of the righteous does it still do damage to you

[hardy snow]

but which exactly laser you are talking about? p1? p2?

[frosty mango]

Your gameplay and knowledge is what keeps you alive

[tribal wharf]

the 3 white paths on random players

[frosty mango]

Your gear is what lets you zug

[tribal wharf]

to interact with a bomb

and if we dont we die i guess

[quiet matrix]

That explains why I die

[frosty mango]

If you are dying you are 99.99999% misplaying

[tribal wharf]

if i was to run a +15

i would brick the key cuz i dont get it

so i just hang out near a bomb

pray for best

[hardy snow]

oh ok, I thought you were talking about raid lura, and thats dung one XD

yeah, players must aim orbs with the beams

[tribal wharf]

oh god, so its the raid boss and the dungeon boss??? what the hell???

[quiet matrix]

Yep. Guss dps sim is the way. Heart of Ancient Hunger will be this weeks choice 🤣

Thank you

[hardy snow]

I guess you didn't do story quests?

[tribal wharf]

not really alot since the mythic zero came out lol

90% of what i do is try to learn keys

but im horribly bad at it

[frosty mango]

Point laser beam at large spinny crystal

Once enough large spinny crystals get blown up, boss take much damage

Zug zug zug

L’ura eli5

[tribal wharf]

so metimes there is only 1 purple circle

and sometimes a whole bunch

i dont get hta

like its alike a purple pancake on the ground

overlapping

[frosty mango]

It’s bc people are bad

But there are 5 notes (the spinny things)

You get 3 beams per set

They get smaller when you hit them

[lusty grotto]

so apparently its true and the game is kicking people from the group after they d/c

[fringe mural]

weird weird

[frosty mango]

Ya this happened to me the other day

[fringe mural]

why do i have to pay hero crest for an upgrade from 1/6 to 2/6, if i already had a champ 6/6 item

it is waist

that shouldn't be necessary right?

[tribal wharf]

it goes to whatever your highest ilvl is

[fringe mural]

also i am champion of the dawn, so the game knows i have at least 6/6 in that slot

[solid sun]

Did you equip the champ item

[fringe mural]

yes

[tribal wharf]

for rings and trinkets you require BOTH items to be said item level to upgrade a second or 3rd item

[fringe mural]

i changed the 6/6 champ belt to the 1/6 hero belt

i know how it is for rings and trinkets

and weapons

but it is just the waist slot

[tribal wharf]

see above

[hardy snow]

try reequiping it or something

[tribal wharf]

i know this from expereince with my hero trinkets

[solid sun]

Are you sure it’s 6/6

[fringe mural]

i am sure it was 6/6 because i got champion of dawn

[tribal wharf]

one is hero 6/6 and other is hero 3 or 4 of 6

[fringe mural]

the waist was champ 6/6

and the new waist is hero 1/6

[solid sun]

Did you sell the belt

[hardy snow]

Ive heard some people had such issue and reequiping gear helped them

[fringe mural]

yes i did sell the belt, but the game usually doesn't care about this

and i will try reequipping

[solid sun]

Item restore it if you can’t buyback

[fringe mural]

thank you brother

that helped

[solid sun]

I contributed nothing

[fringe mural]

don't be sad

but A+ for effort

i'm at 270 and 1123 haste now

getting there

[hardy snow]

glad it helped

[tribal wharf]

sadly i still have some champion gear

[fringe mural]

delves helped me a lot

while m+ loot is higher for sure, the delve 1/6 hero parts will be yours in every case

[undone beacon]

At delvers journey level 9 you start getting hero gear in bountiful level 11 delves

[fringe mural]

yeah

[undone beacon]

Kinda goated for alts ngl

[fringe mural]

once you are there, gearing with every alt becomes a breeze

also you get champion warbound gear

you don't even have to go into there with the alts to have them champ geared right at 90

the champ warbound stuff starts dropping at renown 8 i think

oh also multiple people got manaflux dropping from the bountiful coffers

i got one today, my wife got one, a guildie got one

[undone beacon]

Champ warbound to me is just more dawn crystals to sell cuz I can’t be assed to level a ton of chars rn

[fringe mural]

yeah well dawn crystal is dawn crystal

more gold

but it's really a decent gearing system

very chill too

it's not like i am unable to run keys, i just sometimes have to stand up

and go away

and not in 15 minutes, now

in those cases delves are also nice because valeera doesn't give a fuck, she just mocks you

[coarse bay]

Youre kinda goated

[undone beacon]

Yeah I vibe with delves a lot more this xpac, they really took some good lessons from TWW

[undone beacon]

[coarse bay]

My biggest gripe with delves

Hands down

Worst part

Is group play tuning

[fringe mural]

btw i crafted the engineering boots

pure haste

[coarse bay]

Delves are casual, why is delving with gf or friends actually so bad

[fringe mural]

i don't embellish those and will replace them with myth track last

[coarse bay]

A 4-5 stack in delves is actually harder content than m+

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they have 120 haste ❤️

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erm it's alright

i run with my wife

[coarse bay]

The ultradons last 20 minutes

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she's healer but she doesn't need to be

[coarse bay]

Whole delve

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not with mandate they don't

[coarse bay]

Idk what that means

[lofty warren]

if ur in a group with a bunch of potatoes its tough

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that's a curio that oneshots non-boss enemies sometimes

[coarse bay]

We arent potatoes

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the other curio you take is the +crit one

you melt enemies even as tank

[coarse bay]

Not in a 4-5 stack

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4-5 people?

[coarse bay]

Yes

[fringe mural]

okay no

because as sad as it is

valeera is just stronger than any dps

[coarse bay]

Why is casual content just worse to play with people

[fringe mural]

idk

but good point

we only play as 2+val, so it's fine

[coarse bay]

They can tune it to feel like when solo and itd be good

Ya 2 isnt that bad

Having a healer, valeera pumps