protection

[toxic pewter]

hell yeah

[drowsy comet]

Im not a travel guy myself, especially due my anxiety of heights. But Vietnam looks pretty nice, besides the more "special" areas

[undone beacon]

another one?

[toxic pewter]

lol i mean i still need it

i dont have the key available tho gotta find it in

finder

u guys should come if u want

or can do later even

[drowsy comet]

Do you have scales and change skin like a snake or what, then Id go to see a doctor too

[undone beacon]

doin 0s on druid for weekly

[toxic pewter]

nice

[drowsy comet]

But yea, great you dont have skin cancer. Being healthy is good

[solid sun]

Just had a spot

She said it does all the same stuff skin cancer does so you can only tell what it is by seeing a dermatologist

Construction workers are urged to have their skin checked once a year

[toxic pewter]

r u gonna see a dermatologist

[solid sun]

That’s who I saw today

[toxic pewter]

oh is that where u went

ok right

[solid sun]

She said we gucci

[toxic pewter]

great news tho hell yeah

[trim condor]

yeah tell me about it, I started to have anxiety and panic attacks in public transports last year and I took plane. It was on edge leaving plane before take off . But yeah scenery is very nice, nice people and its cheap there. But not much western food

[toxic pewter]

hate that feeling of not knowing

[sharp gale]

Congrats on not having skin cancer

[solid sun]

She made me take my shirt off

Don’t think they’ve ever had a rhino in their office before

It was kinda small

Yo apb we should do a irl stream at the zoo

I can show you guys all my fam

[drowsy comet]

Prehistoric examples in a zoo, nice

[solid sun]

Do they have zoos in Europe

I’ve never gotten any postcards from European rhinos

[pallid quiver]

That's because my mage friend ate all of them

He was hungry for carrots and made an oopsie

[solid sun]

Classic wizard maneuver

How did the end of your tournament end up going

[drowsy comet]

He missed me

HA

[coarse bay]

[pallid quiver]

The usual suspects got into the top 8, and the usual-er suspect won

[solid sun]

I gotcha

[opal ledge]

i feel like prot need a dps buff

[toxic pewter]

does it tho

[undone beacon]

Nah prot dps is fine

[opal ledge]

can we send warcraft logs links here?

[undone beacon]

Yeah go for it

[plush tendon]

I would love to have Dragon's Roar back

but thats about it

[undone beacon]

Bring back Thunderous Roar but make it a passive that adds damage to demo shout

Easy

Im basically a game dev now

[plush tendon]

they should give Prot War Bonestorm

[opal ledge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/47?leaderboards=1&search=date.1775790000000.1776102737316&bracket=13&class=Tanks&metric=dps&boss=61209
recent sky reach, key 14, ranked by dps ---- no warriors on the 50 best, all other tanks are there

[undone beacon]

They should give prot warr grip

[opal ledge]

that would acutaly be cool, turning demo shout into dragon roar

[mighty valley]

demo shout, the button that does 50 things

[undone beacon]

51 after my changes

[opal ledge]

we need a colossus passive to allows us to use 2 handed and shield

[mighty valley]

it's hard to know what to make of prot dps when so many key pushers are opting out of 15% dps

[plush tendon]

idk, I just dont feel like tank damage in overall is that dissimilar

[undone beacon]

[opal ledge]

the top prot dps there was made without the apex tho

[mighty valley]

yeah, so

add 15% to that

[plush tendon]

I mean, we'll take Prot War dps buffs

I just dont think the balance of the tanks for M+ is coming down to raw dps

[toxic pewter]

like how reliable is warcraftlogs 'death over x time' like does this basically mean i was in a situation where the healing was below the damage taken for 12 seconds

or like how do i understand this

[undone beacon]

its better for looking at rot damage

[toxic pewter]

ok

i got owned LOL

but i think healer was having tough time

or something

i needed an ironbark bad

[pallid quiver]

I need execute to be buffed to deal 150% of the target's max health, no more no less

[solid sun]

I think I need buffs

@pallid quiver are you still the emperor of log evaluation

[pallid quiver]

I don't think much has changed, so I can still evaluate non-raid logs or things that don't require encounter knowledge

and if it does require encounter knowledge, I can learn

[solid sun]

Can you do not prot warrior

[pallid quiver]

I'm not as familiar with other rotations, but generally issues are mostly consistent between lack of uptime/resource planning/etc, so most things, sure

I wouldn't say I'm the best at it, but I'm capable

[solid sun]

I parsed pretty bad on H Alleria as fury

[plush tendon]

im not a dps main, but as far as I know isnt parsing on Alleria super cringe

cause of the damage amp in P1?

[pallid quiver]

Raid encounters with damage amps later in the season for DPS specs often involve some degenerate strategies to parse, as well, though I don't know if that's the case here

[coarse bay]

If you dont get some aoe damage in, as a spec that does aoe, in a fight with aoe. Your parse will suffer

People live and breathe pad

[pallid quiver]

this as well, and fury has traditionally been good at this

Also, if you're specifically parsing, keep an eye on Warcraft Logs rules updates on how they're rating parsing

[solid sun]

I don’t really care about parsing

I’d just like to be a real person

[coarse bay]

I dont ever play for parsing, so i dont do pad strats like holding cds for adds. Like dragons

If u look at top ret log as an example, they only cd on adds, no boss dmg to be seen

Obviously add damage matters sometimes

[fringe mural]

You're real to us

[solid sun]

I’d play without dps meters

But I feel like without them I’d have no idea how I was doing

[coarse bay]

I think it’s best to not have the meters

[undone beacon]

I turn off my meters in raid

[coarse bay]

And look at logs after

[undone beacon]

No reason to have them

Yeah exactly

[coarse bay]

Because during the fight it can only mess with u

On both ends of the spectrum

[undone beacon]

I used to be way too focused on meters mid fight and then id die to mechanics

Best improvement to my performance was turning them off

I leave em on in keys tho

[coarse bay]

Old meters id def keep, to check deaths etc

Or damage to specific targets

But nothing useful now

[daring marlin]

I love glancing down to see the SPriest bodying me

[undone beacon]

I send out mah ghosties and they go oooo ahhhh spooky

Also i swear to god, did 4 m0s on my rat druid for the hero piece and...

[coarse bay]

I’d try to look at your log but the only thing ik about fury is that it uses rage and gets angry

I can do simple comparing cd usage to other people and see where they pump

[pastel dew]

That's nothing. My co tank got Alnseer on both his Monk and his Bear. I almost flipped a table at his insane luck.

[solid sun]

I showed my page to pash

[undone beacon]

at least alnseer isnt a "very rare" drop off of the last boss of the tier

[plush tendon]

damn, my Rat DH also got that ring

[undone beacon]

Though honestly I dont think I even wouldve wanted this ring on my priest

I already have so much haste

[pastel dew]

Our fucking windwalker got one also.

LMAO

[coarse bay]

I got bad stuff on every character

[plush tendon]

dont windwalkers like haste now?

[coarse bay]

[pastel dew]

Absolutely mental luck drops

[coarse bay]

My mage got that weird haste leech chest from lura

[coarse bay]

But i have myth chest

[daring marlin]

yeah but did you get THIS bullshit?

[pastel dew]

Meanwhile me:
Hero chest (I have myth track catalyzed)

[coarse bay]

I got a hero one warbound

[pastel dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-crying-gohan-cry-dragnballgt-screaming-gif-3890117968380819807

[pastel dew]

They do, but Alnseer is still a strong trinket due to the raw primary gain isn't it?

[undone beacon]

I got the imperator cloak on my priest

[pastel dew]

I got lucky on my BDK and got Guidon

[chilly brook]

Alnseer is BiS for WW

[pastel dew]

I'm not entirely mad about this week.

[sweet summit]

no leech... worthless.

[lusty grotto]

aight lets see here now

14 spires

still no belt

[toxic pewter]

u got one of those

[lusty grotto]

ill cap it off at 15 i guess

[undone beacon]

and then you'll do the 15th and say you'll cap it at 20

[lusty grotto]

im tired boss

[chilly brook]

I mean

Just craft a belt tomorrow

[lusty grotto]

tomorrow i craft shield

[daring marlin]

My DK is cursed dude

he gets no drops

[toxic pewter]

i hate that trinket

[daring marlin]

Surely they'll buff it

[lusty grotto]

unless...

surely

[daring marlin]

Cuz it's turbo ass

[lusty grotto]

a myth shield in vault

[dusky canopy]

Fuckass

[plush tendon]

why you grinding for a belt

[lusty grotto]

cause

[daring marlin]

bro wants higher ilvl duh

[coarse bay]

Big pants to hold up

[daring marlin]

Me with boots

[coarse bay]

[plush tendon]

I respect the hustle... just seems like a waste of time XD

[undone beacon]

Nim wants big numbie NOW

[plush tendon]

I did 4 keys on the War this week, but Im prob gonna end up taking myth raid option

[lusty grotto]

i want my champ fucking achievement damn it

[dusky canopy]

Are you meaning to tell the class that you dont farm hero track items to replace champ track??

[plush tendon]

yea, naw

I aint about that life

rocking a champ neck on war

I had 237 pants on my DK when we killed mythic dragons

fuck farming gear

[raven light]

I hate the fire damage stacking dot mobs in skyreach, just timed a 16 wich is kinda low atm and had to be running the whole pull

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt if my vaults werent always deadass bad

[undone beacon]

bro you literally get a free hero neck from npc pvp

[plush tendon]

im like.... almost done with that

[daring marlin]

I ain't doin' allat

[undone beacon]

well then be done with it

4head

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/karofi-meme-đmcs-gif-20297029

[daring marlin]

I'm gonna craft a neck tomorrow

[plush tendon]

I got side tracked and ended up in solo que

[lusty grotto]

i hope yall craft dn

[undone beacon]

i think imma craft a 2-hander on my warr

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-gif-4502198

[plush tendon]

besides, I feel like my wars gear is pretty solid

[chilly brook]

You can craft my ass

[plush tendon]

3 I levels on a neck aint gonna murk me

[daring marlin]

I considered recrafting my 2H, taking the embellishment off it and crafting something else with some embell but you know what

idgaf

[daring marlin]

Sick trinket dude

[plush tendon]

can they uncap myth crests already

[daring marlin]

That thing is useless

[plush tendon]

my trinkets are ass

its fine.... surely im next in line for gaze

[chilly brook]

Uncap hero crests please

[plush tendon]

[daring marlin]

Imagine not having myth pbox

[solid sun]

Have you ever made chicken Alfredo for yourself and tasted it and found it to be absolutely delicious

[chilly brook]

No I’ve never made chicken Alfredo for myself

But I did make chili and cornbread yesterday

[plush tendon]

but I sent uppies on the *other * Chim trinket

I figured im gonna have to spend myth crests on trinkets anyways

[daring marlin]

I will eat a baguette and some chicken breast today

I'm trying real hard ok

[plush tendon]

looks yummy

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-mugen-train-kyojuro-rengoku-rengoku-gif-2254075235405958893

[chilly brook]

And I have made some chicken parm before

[coarse bay]

Nice toes

[cerulean tusk]

Ban will hit you hard and with a vengeance

[solid sun]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hippo-hippopotamus-N98

What if this was what devourer was

instead of dh

[undone beacon]

druid doesnt need a 5th spec

[solid sun]

just change bear

right

because bear kinda mid

I'm jk you'd totally just axe balance

bear, cat, tree, hippo

[mighty valley]

if i have to fight a hippo or an alligator, i'm picking the gator every time

[solid sun]

Really?

You can actually wrestle a gator

Hippos are apex predators of apex predators

[mighty valley]

hippo bite strength is genuinely insane

[solid sun]

Oh wait

I read what you typed incorrectly

You'd pick to fight a gator

Yeah same

[mighty valley]

🤝

[solid sun]

There isn't much on earth that can take on a hippo imo

[trim condor]

is there addon for block uptime or need to tweak it in UI? I feel naked without WA for it

[solid sun]

The CDM has shield block

As both an icon or a bar

And there are numerous addons to reskin it if you don't like how it looks

[lusty grotto]

welp 15

fuck this

[trim condor]

ah wait, that doesnt look bad

[proud coyote]

Is there a way I can see Ignore pain percent as a bar and the timer on the icon? Basically the opposite of how the default CDM works

[undone beacon]

the more you want a specific drop nim the less likely it is to show up

[lusty grotto]

yeah im just not gonna bother

such a waste of time

[undone beacon]

You may be able to bastardize some CDM/UI addon into doing it but theres no reason to track IP

[coarse bay]

My gf did over 50 AA for puzzlebox

Well over

[trim condor]

I did 40 pit of sarons on my healer for ring, I still dont have it

hate that place with passion now

[undone beacon]

I did like 3 Xenas's before realizing it was a stupid waste of time to farm for a heroic ring and said fuck it

I'll get it when i get it

[coarse bay]

Ya but puzzlebox for hunter is big enough

Anything else heck that

[solid sun]

Grinding out that many dungeons for a specific item would make me hate the game

That many of the same dungeon

[undone beacon]

Yep

[trim condor]

if you dont do it in same week or day, its managable

[lusty grotto]

.........

this guy was clearly not around when i was in my tome arc

IN TWO DIFFERENT SEASONS

[trim condor]

when I took vacation for wow in shadowlands, I did 100x otherside in 1 week for tank trinket and didnt get it, so I quit

[toxic pewter]

wait which trinket r u working to get nim

[lusty grotto]

a belt

[toxic pewter]

oh

just craft one tomorrow 😛

[lusty grotto]

i cant

[trim condor]

or stack full plate, all dk dmg and healer paladin

[lusty grotto]

2h -> 1h -> Shield tomorrow if no myth from vault

[toxic pewter]

gotcha

[lusty grotto]

you say that like i havent actually tried it

[solid sun]

Well obviously you're getting a myth track shield in your vault

So problem is solved

[lusty grotto]

im convinced blizzard just doesnt give good RNG to players that have been playing since vanilla or for a long time

cause they are likely to keep playing

i still fucking remember legion and bfa chests

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[daring marlin]

I've played forever and got the EXACT THING I wanted from my first vault

TAKE IT BACK

[lusty grotto]

shield was like dead ass last week of the season

[sharp gale]

@dusky canopy IM HIM

[toxic pewter]

hell yea

[sharp gale]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dance-sea-lion-gif-18060641275691946665

[daring marlin]

still a diaperbaby

[trim condor]

I mean I somtimes think that too, doing 100 dungeons not having half of the loot and then my buddy logs for weekend gaming and gear his toon in 10 dungeons

[daring marlin]

gross

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[sharp gale]

smol

[trim condor]

this should be banned

[toxic pewter]

those are what 2 warriors in their prime look like in 2026

[trim condor]

last time I heard warrior gnome in dungeon, I needed to mute my sounds, I can imagine its same for vulpera

[dusky canopy]

Bro pog!!

Arms owns

[sharp gale]

those demolish when hammers spins are very scary

[proud coyote]

Is it not worth tracking? I’ve only just started prot pally so I thought it was try and get it to where a new one would cap you and then you know you’re good to revenge. I guess that’s wasted rage but that was what i assumed i should do while learning what hurts vs not.

[toxic pewter]

ngl lmao i do have an addon that mutes the sounds but my party members still suffer rofl

i think they can hear it

[undone beacon]

You hit IP when you have 70+ rage. Its a rage dump

Not our main defensive

[drowsy comet]

for some reason I thought that everybody in this channel would only play prot warrior and nothing else lol . Glad its quite the opposite

[undone beacon]

The only way to waste rage is to go overcap

[trim condor]

I have maghar orc and I still sometimes play without it, but gnome was something else 😄

[toxic pewter]

yeah certain races its a bit much

[drowsy comet]

Looks like a Funko Pop

[trim condor]

do we still stack IP for boss busters in keys?

[proud coyote]

Is it only over 70 rage? Or are you also aiming for 100% uptime. Sorry for simple questions most guides read like dps guides not defensive focused.

[undone beacon]

We dont care about IP uptime

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

read that

[fading pulsar]

is there a reason warrior stun doesn't stop the leech shield in Nexus point?

[coarse bay]

We do

[undone beacon]

wdym

[drowsy comet]

Dwarfs...it starts to pmo whenever I press something thats on cooldown "not ready yet" in this dwarfish accent

[toxic pewter]

hah

[proud coyote]

That seems crazy to me with it being a 50% dr but thanks for answering.

[proud coyote]

Ty

[drowsy comet]

Ahem you play Paladin, didnt you mention your a Paladin main for 15 years

[lusty grotto]

its not 50% dr

[fading pulsar]

the leech veil that gets broken with cc

[lusty grotto]

its nowhere near a 50% DR

[coarse bay]

I also play warrior pwar was my most timed keys in tww

Although warrior has never been my main for a season

[drowsy comet]

i spent a couple of hours today playing thru that damn Undermine campaign so when the next Darkmoonfaire Event is up, imma farm that stupid Darkfuse Rep to get this damn mantle. Its gonna be a hell of a grind but it looks so good

[toxic pewter]

black trenchcoat right

[drowsy comet]

Yea its Paladin for me, way smoother, but Pwarr is insane for durability

[drowsy comet]

Yup

[toxic pewter]

yeah one of the best transmogs

[drowsy comet]

Almost everx Nightelf DH is using that coat, with Sargeras Blindfolds, Tuxedo Pants and black shoes. With Azzinoth Glaives on top

[undone beacon]

Thats not how leech veil works, it puts a shield on another mob and you have to break the shield on that mob

[fading pulsar]

fear removes it

[drowsy comet]

imma be using that for all my mains in the main camp screen. Slick and clean

[drowsy comet]

Read the comments

[undone beacon]

Gonna need to see that in action or get a double check because I havent seen any CC end leech veil early, but if it does that is interesting

[fringe mural]

You watched rings of power?

[drowsy comet]

Yea

[fringe mural]

durin has the exact same scottish accent brann has

and also the beard

[fading pulsar]

im just wondering why fear as a form of CC removes it but no other warrior CC does

[drowsy comet]

I knew I wasnt tripping when I heard it

[fading pulsar]

and whether or not other class CC works

[undone beacon]

You can intim it off?

[fading pulsar]

bug or intended ❔

[drowsy comet]

especially when somebody has that weird toy or potion to turn into Brann and gets the voice lines

seriously what is that thing, a toy or what potion?

[fading pulsar]

yes, warr fear removes it immediately

[undone beacon]

If intim works and stormbolt/shockwave dont, the only guess i could hazard is that both stormbolt and shockwave have damage tied to them, and leech veil gives both a full damage absorb and immunity

Which would imply any CC with a damage rider wouldnt work

But im not on to go test it myself

[fading pulsar]

I thought it might be an elevation thing, but the mobs do get stunned, the shield just doesn't break

maybe you're right with the dmg portion having an effect

[proud coyote]

Shield block is use on CD while actively tanking yeah? Assuming duration wont get wasted from a pack dying?

[lusty grotto]

ideally no

[undone beacon]

You want to keep as close to 100% effective uptime on shield block as possible

[lusty grotto]

its the first season of the exp, our haste values are down

just maintain it

what pash mentioned, basically

[toxic pewter]

I just use HR

[lusty grotto]

and yes you should be using HR if you're under 1188 haste rating, read pins

but using it "on cd" is incorrect

[fringe mural]

it needs to be up when you get hit

in the face

depending on how you pull, that can mean on cd, but doesnt have to be

also on cd sometimes wastes uptime

if you get really lucky with ss procs

[proud coyote]

I love class discords i’ve learned so much from my 3 stupid questions ty

[undone beacon]

We're here to help

[drowsy comet]

Isnt everybody basically using HR. Since getting to 1188 Haste does take abit of gearing, speaking without buffs

[solid sun]

I use HR

[lusty grotto]

they should be yes

[solid sun]

I've noticed a particular fixation on trying to get 1188 haste

But I just go for ilvl

Playing HR is fine

[coarse bay]

I think swapping off HR feels very good, but im not close to it

[drowsy comet]

im getting to it eventually yea

rings are a big increase in Haste

and amulet

[coarse bay]

Ya ive got decent stuff but i dont think im even 1k

[daring marlin]

fury warrior

[coarse bay]

Is this enough haste

[toxic pewter]

yes

ITF! ITF FOR ALL!

[coarse bay]

[toxic pewter]

the fray! go into it!

[true gorge]

is there a good trinket post that i can read?

[toxic pewter]

just get alnseer

that is the post

[solid sun]

I did that

Was pretty sweet, can't lie

[lusty grotto]

yes, the icy-veins guide

[drowsy comet]

Should we smell it or

[coarse bay]

[rocky crest]

ya guys having a tough time in nexus ?

16 and upwards ?

[drowsy comet]

Smells like...Teen Spirit..

insert dancing rat here

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-cobain-nirvana-guitar-my-epic-guitar-my-epic-musket-gif-13401240663597500387

[coarse bay]

Whipping out the nirvana

No wonder u feel bullied by pugs

https://tenor.com/view/sad-bear-cute-walk-gif-9923548506936371434

[toxic pewter]

lil gup goin through his grunge phase

[coarse bay]

I think lil pug will get stronger through these experiences

And will soon 1v1 khailby

[solid sun]

If I redid your entire master bath

Swapped out a couple fixtures

And flushed both of your water heaters

How would you feel about $3,925

[coarse bay]

Thats really cheap

[cerulean tusk]

Materials and taxes included into that?

[drowsy comet]

Woah woah take that back.

Im a die hard Rammstein fan

[solid sun]

That's all materials and labor and all that, that I would be spending. It excludes the fixtures themselves as the homeowner is buying them

[coarse bay]

Whats entailed in the redo of master bath?

[coarse bay]

Du hast mich

[solid sun]

Moving the shower drain, moving the tub drain, moving the water for tub and roughing in the floor mount tub filler, roughing in two 2-in-1 shower valves with two shower heads, one handheld hand sprayer and slide bar, one rain head, installing two new lavatory faucets, swapping out the master toilet

Also swapping out an additional toilet, summer kitchen faucet, and then flushing the two water heaters

[drowsy comet]

Matter fact I discovered Rock/Metal when I was 11. And I know the exact moment when it got me

[coarse bay]

I think bathroom work is usually very expensive, but idk the norms tbh i dont own a home

[wintry oar]

Does anyone have a talent build for Grudge Pit solo farm to level Valeera through pulling the room on T4+ and nuking everything down and collecting the exp items in the room?

[lusty grotto]

sure

[coarse bay]

That sounds like a lot though

[lusty grotto]

the standard m+ talent build

[drowsy comet]

Old songs are peak, absolutely. Im more of a fan of the new ones. Like Deutschland, Ohne Dich, Radio, etc

[wintry oar]

so rather mountain thane than slayer?

[solid sun]

We're prot

[lusty grotto]

slayer...?

[toxic pewter]

i would personally go colossus if i was farming 4s

[coarse bay]

[wintry oar]

Ah mean colossus

sorry guys 😄

[toxic pewter]

i just would pull everything and demolish the shit out of them

unironically

[lusty grotto]

apb

thats a preference

not advice

[toxic pewter]

yes that is not standard advice

[drowsy comet]

Did you say Slayer...as in SLAAAAYYYEERRR

[lusty grotto]

honestly it doesnt matter, the standard m+ build is fine

[wintry oar]

sweet thanks

[wintry oar]

xD

[toxic pewter]

dang they nerfing the hell out of l'ura

[drowsy comet]

legends say hes still screaming his lungs out for SLAAAAYYYEEEEERRERRRRRRRR

[lusty grotto]

did you expect them not to?

cause everyone expected it

[drowsy comet]

They did yea, pugs need to be able to kill it too

[toxic pewter]

no im glad to see it

[drowsy comet]

Lura was a hell of a beast when it released ngl

[toxic pewter]

definitely needed

[solid sun]

I remember fighting lura

Before nerfs

[toxic pewter]

same

[solid sun]

Killed it, too

[drowsy comet]

Yea its a sick fight tho

[idle copper]

just done a seats 10 and got battered by first packs - only possible to pull 1 pack at a time? tried doing 2 at a time and we ended up with 20 deaths by first boss (still managed to time dungeon though so group was ok)

[solid sun]

Were you protecting yourself from getting charged?

[drowsy comet]

absolute L'ura, uh I mean Absolute cinema

[lusty grotto]

no

you just cannto range pull them

[coarse bay]

I think the release cadence and difficulty of bosses is weird, because it causes a lot of guilds to not even get aotc

And loot*

[lusty grotto]

you have to charge into one, and then walk to the other

or else youll get charged and bled out

[lofty warren]

Nimchump says here these are unannounced.. how likely is it just thay they missed it instead of revered it

[undone beacon]

Also try to not overlap subjagator's casts of the chains because that will just kill people

[drowsy comet]

Lust will help quite alot, especially if it was with pugs. Otherwise take it a bit more slowly. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast or whatever the slang is

[idle copper]

cool ty , can i still walk 3 packs or best to jsut walk 2 at a time?

[solid sun]

You can kinda overlap them yeah?

[lusty grotto]

3 is the standard pull

[solid sun]

Kinda depends on if people have a snare removal

[drowsy comet]

Wait till tomorrow for Patch Notes

[solid sun]

If you have a snare removal you can time it and remove all the overlapped chains

[undone beacon]

I mean if you have three sets of chains blasting someone and they dont have snare removal then that person is probably dead

[idle copper]

ok ty, probably my charge leaping killed me then

[lofty warren]

Warlock teleport breaks chains

[undone beacon]

For pugs its def not worth the risk lol

[idle copper]

ill stick to walking 2

[lusty grotto]

right never outrange champions

[idle copper]

ty

[drowsy comet]

Healer bad

[lusty grotto]

im actually thinking of dropping crackling for that dungeon specifically because of that

on much higher keys of course

[drowsy comet]

Crackling?

[lofty warren]

Link to all the 12.0.5 unannounced changes?

[solid sun]

bigger tclap

[drowsy comet]

ahh

[lusty grotto]

tclap slow

[idle copper]

what does dropping that do?

[solid sun]

Yeah that one

[lusty grotto]

no snare on tclap

[dim token]

can someone tell me whats the addon that shows key % in decimals? thanks!

[idle copper]

ah

[drowsy comet]

lowkey I expected Nim to hit me with a "crackling deez nuts" or something

[lofty warren]

Nope

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-me-not-moving-raccoon-standing-up-gif-17639976

Peppegged what are you doing with your name?

[toxic pewter]

oh thats pepega

lmao

i was like who is that

[drowsy comet]

Nims evil brother

[lofty warren]

Im a chamileon

[drowsy comet]

I knew it

[proud coyote]

can you embelish a shield?

[lusty grotto]

sure

if you crafted the right shield that is

[daring marlin]

embellishments are stupid

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-yor-forger-based-department-phone-uh-hello-gif-27583186

[lusty grotto]

valeera just assassinated nimchipadin in a delve

[chrome falcon]

Max just watched my guild's clip on stream

New claim to fame just dropped

[lusty grotto]

youre always famous in my heart

[upbeat plover]

Council of protection warriors.
What is the generally accepted meta race for prot?

[lusty grotto]

dwarf

[chrome falcon]

https://www.twitch.tv/bingleberg/clip/RoughSecretiveSageDoggo-uhXI2bvDFNz-xb9b we tried stacking the hammers on lightblinded and it straight up didn't do any damage lol

[upbeat plover]

For bleed remove?

[lusty grotto]

and any dispellable debuf, yes

[upbeat plover]

Oh thought it was just bleeds

Neat

[chrome falcon]

no it's anything

but bleeds are the hardest to deal with

so generally that's what you use it for

[lusty grotto]

oh?

interesting!

[chrome falcon]

but max just showed the clip on stream so

[lusty grotto]

nerfed yesterday

[chrome falcon]

probably gonna be fixed pretty quick if not already

LMAO

they just tried on stream

and got gigadeleted

[lusty grotto]

lmaoooo

[chrome falcon]

lura couldn't kill liquid but the hex pistols could

[quaint vessel]

yo just a quick question, is the dmg distribution between the abilities in a m+ just fine like that or should it be more on revenge?

[lusty grotto]

we'd rather look at logs

but it seems fine

[quaint vessel]

ty

have no idea how to use logs

[frosty mango]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/help/start

[lusty grotto]

on the addon part you can use those two but additionally you can use bigwigs or raider.io

[fringe mural]

did my first +9 today

it went surprisingly well

only did a +2 before

it was pit so not too hard but still

[toxic pewter]

great job keep going

[solid sun]

Mighty

[idle copper]

what does vigor do on the head enchant?

[lusty grotto]

nothing

[idle copper]

whys it on there?

[lusty grotto]

cause blizzard made a mistake and hasn't corrected it

[idle copper]

cool

[tribal wharf]

what the hell is vigor

[lusty grotto]

what skyriding used to use as energy

[waxen frigate]

It’s like Vim

[tribal wharf]

oh, okay, for me i still use that one

i dont use the electric one

[lusty grotto]

wat

[tribal wharf]

theres 2 for nu flying

one is electric thingy

[toxic pewter]

im about to get a shield spike

[tribal wharf]

other is... normal....

[toxic pewter]

need that extra 3 dam

they need to bring back shield spikes

[tribal wharf]

i never "got" the electric riding style

[lusty grotto]

pretty sure you cant swap them anymore

[tribal wharf]

so i said fuck it im not using it

[arctic ivy]

How else will you parse without it.

[lusty grotto]

its just one skyriding style

[tribal wharf]

i get what you mean though

it boils down to its virtually unsimmable outside of like maybe nokhud

[lusty grotto]

oh

yeah you can still pick it

nah, everyone plays whirling surge myself included

thats also the default

either way vigor isnt a thing since midnight pre patch

[quaint vessel]

https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7dvq1bMDRwj8N6hJ

think i got it, just timed my first +10 :D

[mighty valley]

nice nice nice!

now here's your first homework lol

[quaint vessel]

how to change that?

keep targets more in front?

[mighty valley]

yep

can also make SB uptime easier on yourself by switching to Heavy Repercussions from Into The Fray

you're pretty far away from having enough haste to make ITF safe

[quaint vessel]

oh ty

[lusty grotto]

thats not a mobs in front problem

thats a "not good SB management" problem

and you DO need to talent HR

read the pin

[quaint vessel]

yeah im really struggling to keep track on all the cd's tbh

[lusty grotto]

you have 561 haste rating

SB is the only cd you need to constantly keep track of

these CPMs need to also go up

you want 15+ on SS

14+ on TC

less on IP

as discussed here #protection message

[mighty valley]

yeah your priorities seem a little wack. here's your start to the dungeon, you press IP before you ever press SB, and then it's 20+ seconds before you press another SB

[lusty grotto]

SB is way more important than IP

read the link

on how to IP

[mighty valley]

the heroic leap into insta charge is also a funky move lol

[lusty grotto]

eh i do that sometimes

[quaint vessel]

kk guess ill get rid of the sb+ip i guess

[lusty grotto]

wym

dont tell me you had a macro to cast both

[quaint vessel]

think i press that macro to often when i dont have a target in range / direction

[lusty grotto]

cause that's a hard "dont use"

[mighty valley]

oh yeah that's uh

[lusty grotto]

immediately delete it

[mighty valley]

that's a throw in the trash and then incinerate the trash situation

[quaint vessel]

so why then this? 🥹

[loud rune]

thats slam

not block

[mystic cave]

thats SS

not SB

lol

[quaint vessel]

god

yeah ok, i didnt macro sb to ip

[loud rune]

i gonna get mad flamed for my macro now, but i use this since i believe, whenever im in melee shield block use is worth it, and since ss can only be used in melee i think this makes sense to a certain degree

but this would solve your low sb uptime too

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats only good if you use it to SB only

not to SS

[loud rune]

why would it be bad to use as main ss key

[lusty grotto]

please also take a look at the first pinned message in the pins

[lusty grotto]

because youre nuking your rage by spamming SS

and because youll run out of charges fairly quickly

and potentially go over cap, with HR

[loud rune]

[lusty grotto]

do not macro abilities together if you dont know what youre doing

your gameplay will suffer

[quaint vessel]

so more or less, takeaway for me is: push more SB ffs ?

[lusty grotto]

read the first message that's pinned you have 560 haste rating

[quaint vessel]

and more thunderclap/shieldSLAM instead of revenge?

[lusty grotto]

you should NOT be playing ITF

this thing, you need to swap

[quaint vessel]

yeah thats what i swapped

[lusty grotto]

as thane? yes

you only use revenge when those 2 are on cd

[tribal wharf]

this dude im running with

guild name versatility lmao

is wear versa boys

[lusty grotto]

could be pvpers

[proud coyote]

what is the limit on shield block duration?

[lusty grotto]

3x times its duration

[fringe mural]

yay did a +10

[lusty grotto]

if enduring defenses is talented (which it should be), its 3 times base duration + 2

[quaint vessel]

oh boy heavy repercussions feels so much better

[fringe mural]

it's nice to be able to choose which m+ you do

as tank

[toxic pewter]

you have the pick of the litter as tank

everyone need u

[loud rune]

0.08sec

[toxic pewter]

ez

[harsh trellis]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vin-diesel-fast-and-furious-CtU

[undone beacon]

Bro i hate turbotax

what a stupid scummy website

wanted to charge me almost $200 to file

[lusty grotto]

thanks cheetoh man

[undone beacon]

Nah thats not even a trump thing

Thats just Intuit being a scummy company that lobbies against letting people file for free

[lusty grotto]

well i mean they did shut down DirectFile

[undone beacon]

Touche, that doesnt help

But even before, tax filing companies are just scummy

[lusty grotto]

yeah agreed

[undone beacon]

But I did find out FreeTaxUSA is a thing and they were... much cheaper

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

Nothing for federal filing, $16 for state... i was like aight sure

I'll trust

[lusty grotto]

wait a minute

didnt augusto say alts would have 4 sparks by tomorrow?

how the fuck does nimchipadin only have 2

[trim bay]

😮

[lusty grotto]

i want a refund

[trim bay]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[mighty valley]

i have the hack to guarantee a good tax refund

[lusty grotto]

so do i

be a billionaire

[trim bay]

just think of a number you believe you deserve

and make that number come to life in deductions

[lusty grotto]

nah just be a billionaire

[mighty valley]

hm that'd work

[trim bay]

nah to much

[mighty valley]

my one weird trick was losing my entire house in a wildfire

[trim bay]

like wolf of wall street rich

is fine

[lusty grotto]

ez tax evasion forever

[trim bay]

if u can chuck a midget at a dart board

u have won

[lusty grotto]

protected by this administration!

[lusty grotto]

but also

[mighty valley]

we signed a contract, we've got permits, we're rolling

house in a year, believe

[warm plinth]

Pally tax

[lusty grotto]

fair

[daring marlin]

go do some content that gives pinnacle loot dummy

[lusty grotto]

goddamn it

welp

[daring marlin]

It's unfortunately the only way

[warm plinth]

Reminder to go gym. Be real zugzug. If fat man can do it, so can you.

[toxic pewter]

just had a giga meltdown occur

myself i mean

in a 16 skyreach

i do the initital pull with lust

and as the intitial bird and mobs are about to die i start moving for a chain

u guys know to get next bird and rest of mobs at start

but the healer dies to the white circle

andd then this mage rages at me saying I was wrong to chain it

i dunno

in my mind i wwas trying to extend our lust

called me a bad tank

i guess I shouldnt chain thhere anymore

[warm plinth]

My friend made me do a 10 or 12 cinderbrew as my first time ever doing the dungeon. I got called the worst tank they'd ever seen. Happens to all of us at some point. Don't let it get you down. You're a fuckin qtpie and they can't change it.

[toxic pewter]

I am happy for your gym going ghash that is so inspiring

[warm plinth]

Thanks man

[undone beacon]

🔥 tip

[loud rune]

real, im down 27kg in the past 5 months too gotta be a slim warrior for faster kiting

[warm plinth]

Dang that's solid

almost 60 lbs

[lusty grotto]

except for the faster kiting part

[loud rune]

[lusty grotto]

but yeah its great

gz

and keep at it ghash!

[warm plinth]

Oh it's a habit at this point. And I enjoy going

[loud rune]

same

the first solo visit

was such a big step

[warm plinth]

If anything fails me, it'll be my love of food but I really haven't been struggling with that much

[shut summit]

[lusty grotto]

officially announced but Archi got us in #updates-midnight a few days ago

[undone beacon]

poggies

[plush tendon]

well I knew weeks ago

[pallid quiver]

It was me, I called him the worst tank I'd ever seen

[plush tendon]

MT still siq

and Col also siq now to

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[lusty grotto]

ackchually

colossus is ahead in aoe

by quite a bit

but mwahi will have numbers by this week

[toxic pewter]

can anyone tell me why the birds before 3rd boss skyreach killed me https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Htp8VXkyNfBGrPgD?type=deaths&fight=9&death=3

like i got like 90% to zero in 2-3 seconds

i must of taken backhits or something

[lusty grotto]

you didnt block all 11 attacks

so yes 11 back hits

[toxic pewter]

yep

[lusty grotto]

SB was active so

[toxic pewter]

wow

bad position

that explains it thank you

[loud rune]

where do you see that

i cant find that in the logs

[lusty grotto]

see what

[loud rune]

and i cant find wasted IP

[loud rune]

this

[lusty grotto]

damage taken, hover over melee hits (or any blockable attack)

[toxic pewter]

how did u like make it just show those 12 melee's

[loud rune]

wouldve been my followup question too

[toxic pewter]

im guessing he somehow went to that time

[lusty grotto]

i zoomed into the time that you died

[lusty grotto]

there's no such thing as wasted IP

[loud rune]

sorry

i meant

rage

[lusty grotto]

have i not linked the IP wall of text

oh

resources

click the drop down

that says hit points

and select rage

[loud rune]

ty

[oak ivy]

BOIS

[lusty grotto]

#updates-midnight

[oak ivy]

oops

[toxic pewter]

is colossus looking to be more competitive with the changes

still prob not strong enough to edge out thane i bet

[unkempt sparrow]

change was just reverted so probably not now

[lusty grotto]

colossus is ahead by a bit

[woven radish]

God i hope so... love colossus

Thane so fuckin boring

[toxic pewter]

do you think its ok to get regular ravager as colossus to help with gathering

[lusty grotto]

i dont have exact numbers yet but

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto @undone beacon you goobers still wanna do some rat 10s

[tribal wharf]

why did i agree to 3 prey quests for spark

probably wont get done now

got 2 more to go in morning

[toxic pewter]

can abandon it and choose another thing

[daring marlin]

It'll take you like 30mins tops

but arcantina goated

[toxic pewter]

or yeh just do it

[lusty grotto]

yeah hold on finishing a skyreach

its looking like it'll be way more than just 1.5k fyi

[lusty grotto]

invite

[lusty grotto]

no, revenge is more than enough

actually give me 5 mins

[daring marlin]

roger

[lusty grotto]

but can invite, i have auto accept

[daring marlin]

WHERE IS @undone beacon

[solid sun]

Never invites me

[ionic rock]

Is there smth that is not intuitive that would make me feel omega squishy in keys ? Iv checked vods, logs, guides and i dont seem to be doing smth extremely wrong, but when i look at like acefloorpov or other prot warrior their hp DOES NOT MOVE FROM FULL.

Like is there some secret tech i dont know about ? 😂 😂

[daring marlin]

keep up shieldblock and don't let mobs hit you in the back

[ionic rock]

Ofc im doing that

Is there any tech regarding ignore pain ?

[daring marlin]

every prot warrior I've had in 15-17 keys their HP doesn't move either

depends on pack, I guess.

axes hurt

[ionic rock]

To be fair i havent tanked bigger keys sience 1 st week when i had very bad gear

We did a few 15s day one

Bot there i felt like papper

[undone beacon]

what we doin again

[lusty grotto]

link the log

[daring marlin]

I have a 10 MT on my rat dk

nimchipadin is here

[lusty grotto]

no

[undone beacon]

Run without me I’m eating dinner on my couch like a bum

[ionic rock]

I dont have anything relevant from this week cuz i didnt had time due to ester but ill log sum tommorow and send

[errant wagon]

Is there an addon out there that can display a big ol' debuff icon in the middle of my screen when I have a bleed in dungeons 🙃

[lusty grotto]

yes

ill get you a name

[errant wagon]

you'd be my hero

[tribal wharf]

mastering reflect will help

[lusty grotto]

just give me a few cause im on my paladin and i dont seem to have it enabled as ret

[errant wagon]

skyreach bleeds have taken me more timees than I care. almost timed an 18 but 2nd to last pull just took my honor

[lusty grotto]

yeah so its just bigwigs private auras

[errant wagon]

and If i'm faster with bleeds I can fix it

[lusty grotto]

dbm should also have private auras

so either work

[errant wagon]

they work in dungeons?

[mighty valley]

on those packs you just… assume you gotta drop it right now lol

[lusty grotto]

yes they do

[errant wagon]

i know what I gotta do but my heartrate is a million and lots of things happening 😵‍💫 '

[errant wagon]

is that one dbm or bigwigs

[lusty grotto]

bigwigs

but again dbm does the same

[errant wagon]

what buttons am I clicking excatly, I have bigwigs

[lusty grotto]

just remember you need littlewigs for bigwigs and/or dbm dungeons for dbm

idk this is what i have

[errant wagon]

cool. I have this setup already but watching my recording it doesn't show the icon there with the bleed given from the mob packs

Hmm

[lusty grotto]

show moving anchors

and make sure they are in a place where youre looking at

and make sure you have littlewigs, im sure you do, but just in case

[errant wagon]

👍

thank you much

[lusty grotto]

if i notice something different from that ill let you know

[errant wagon]

thanks man

[winged zenith]

We saved

Change has been reverted

[lusty grotto]

we knew days ago

[winged zenith]

How we knew

[lusty grotto]

#updates-midnight

[winged zenith]

Post just came out today

[lusty grotto]

read #updates-midnight

[loud rune]

me goes raid
raid done
me realize oops
me on m+ talent

[daring marlin]

living up to stereotypes

nimchipadin gaming at 246

[lusty grotto]

[daring marlin]

bdk kinda fun

still wish I'd get LOOT

[lusty grotto]

i did change loot spec before i opened the chest, which is weird

to ret

[daring marlin]

weird

[undone beacon]

gotta change loot specs before key starts

[cold pilot]

So they just said fuck it and reversed the prot changes to Tclap?

[celest glen]

hey all! doing 14s now and having some trouble on the first pull of AA. I feel like I'm rotating defensives well and the healers are decent so I'm guessing that I'm mismanaging the stacks. When we start running out of juice, how many stacks to I need to get nervous about? Like when is the time to start kiting there.

[outer willow]

pls vault. all I want is to get 1 piece that I need. Just one.

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto we made it

Against all odds

[quartz kettle]

@oblique garnet Have you had a chance to bring up my concerns about PvP representation in the Theorycrafter role at the monthly Valk meeting yet?

[mystic cave]

Gentleman, I just did a 14 on a 265 brewmaster, this spec might be a little strong ngl

[abstract arch]

I ran brew first this season and its so overtuned its insane

[oblique garnet]

Go away im on vacation

[daring marlin]

wat

[mystic cave]

Yup, albeit it was with a stack of friends that slam and are good, but I felt unkillable

[cloud fox]

Hello! In single target situations, if I get a Revenge! proc, do I prioritize Execute or using the Revenge proc?

[quartz kettle]

i didnt even realize this was the prot channel kekw my bad

[lusty grotto]

nice!

[lusty grotto]

you can use the revenge proc

[cloud fox]

Thank you!

[fast marsh]

Was looking at some high rating M+ players, how do they atach pyrium spike to their shields?

[toxic pewter]

lol just buy one from ah but it does like 3 damage it’s mostly a joke

The item is from like vanilla or something lol

[lusty grotto]

pyrium is from cata

but for the most part, most expansions under cata had shield spikes

wotlk, and vanilla i think, i cant remember one in tbc

[lofty warren]

sunder

3 stack

[lusty grotto]

5 stacks

but we're not talking about sunder

we're talking about shield spikes

[toxic pewter]

They need to bring back shield spikes in a real way

I mean I guess tough as nails is a modern day shield spike but still adds flavor

[lusty grotto]

yeah pretty much

[vocal owl]

Any update on 12.0.5??

[winged zenith]

Yes we good

Not as good as brew

Still no inv for us on 17+ though

[lusty grotto]

what kinda update are you looking for?

[vocal owl]

Just any chances:)

[lusty grotto]

#updates-midnight message

as per 4 days ago

and on wowhead today

the thane nerfs were reverted

but colossus is very likely to come ahead

will have exact numbers this week

[winged zenith]

Get your 17 resi and call it this season

No reason to go beyond

[lusty grotto]

but its looking like a 8k dps difference in aoe in colossus favor

but we'll have exact numbers soon this week

[winged zenith]

Surviving beyond 18+ feels nightmare

[lusty grotto]

i feel like youre forgetting we're not full 6/6 myth yet

but im not gonna bother

gn

[rancid tiger]

• turbo boost🤭

[sullen valve]

Guys, do you think we could all chip in and get Mwahi a hair transplant?
One strand of hair from each person

[sullen valve]

So is that a yes or no when it comes to helping mwahi out?

[undone beacon]

What do you think

I’d give two strands to Mwahi my beloved

[sullen valve]

WOAH
Don't go overboard... I might start thinking you're going after MY mans

[jagged pier]

Sir its astablished lore that it was a beam in the photo but a mohawk

[drowsy comet]

https://x.com/i/status/2043848196405789179

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

Blizzard has posted Patch 12.0.5 PTR development notes which includes more class tuning for Druids and Warriors, and changes to the purchase cost for Cosmetics.

#Midnight #Warcraft

https://t.co/yzPtJB3qz0

X · Apr 14, 2026, 12:25 AM

Oh god

[jagged pier]

Its just what was datamined

[drowsy comet]

But now its official

[mighty valley]

Why is this an oh god moment

[round pendant]

oh gup

[torn gulch]

turbo boost this season is very different than previous ones

only weapon and trinkets get upgraded to 298

plus bonus rolls

[sullen valve]

I have evidence to counteract this

but you'll just have to take my word on it cuz I never betray my pookie

[jagged pier]

[sharp gale]

Does Mwahi need a lot of hair help ?

Just to estimate if the 153.123 ppl here are enough

[sullen valve]

That's not enough

we need to go international

[torn gulch]

With crests still capped at the beginning of 12.0.5 the drops from bonus rolls will still not upgradeable for a while

[drowsy comet]

Voidforge is not Turbo Boost, TB is something that comes at the end of an season

Where u gear fast

[torn gulch]

turbo boost is not like that this season

it's been datamined already

and tb never came at the end of a season it came around half the way

voidforge upgrades weapons and trinkets to 298
bonus rolls gives you chance to target gear
that's the turbo boost equivalent this season

[wooden lily]

You can guarantee 3 myth pieces a week next week when the forge comes. Wdym its not turbo boost lol

[torn gulch]

Yes I guess Blizzard heard feedback that peeps are tired of farming crests for extended myth and hero tracks and limited the upgrades only to weapons and trinkets

And they switched from a dinar system to a bonus roll system with item removal for every roll you use on a specific boss or dungeon

[wooden lily]

I like this system imo

Its rather early still since we're only a month or so into the season but it is what it is

[torn gulch]

Yes it's a big improvement over what we have

I hope it stays like this every season

[wooden lily]

Being able to guarantee a bis loot in a certain amount of weeks isnt bad at all

Like 1 or 2 dreamrift kills and its a free mythic gaze

[torn gulch]

One roll in raid is 2 tokens so it will be more than 1-2 kills
But yeah that's the idea

[wooden lily]

Now its another question if my guild will or can kill dreamrift next week or two

[wooden lily]

Prot loot spec only has 2 items on dream rift. Curios dont count

First week is a 50 50. Second week is guaranteed

[torn gulch]

ah really gaze and a chest?

[wooden lily]

Boots i believe

[torn gulch]

or pants

[wooden lily]

But not the important item anyways

[torn gulch]

and those boots can be catalysed into bis

with high haste/crit

[wooden lily]

True. But myth gaze more important anyways

[torn gulch]

On my guardian I legit have 6 items in Seat of the triumvirate

loads of bonus rolls will be spent in there

[wooden lily]

3 weeks and you'll get all 6. We'll maybe 4 if theres other loot there

[torn gulch]

there are 8-9 items there

4-5 weeks if i am unlucky