protection

[velvet knot]

halls of infusion is saved for me by having a good end boss that makes me top dps as a tank

[frosty mango]

The hardest dungeons always have the same criteria

• overlapping priority kicks
• bosses with large amounts of unavoidable pulsing aoe damage

Show me a dungeon with both of those and ill show you the hardest key in any season

[velvet knot]

the second i reflected this i was top dps for the rest of the fight

[warm plinth]

I would say large amounts of any frequent damage, not necessarily aoe damage

[daring marlin]

The people want KR

and getti

[warm plinth]

Unavoidable frequent damage*

[tribal wharf]

i remember i totally hated the fairy dungeon by end of shadowlands

[warm plinth]

Like first boss of King's Rest for example

Was also shit for that reason

[warm plinth]

Pretty sure everyone hated Mists by the end of SL XD

[velvet knot]

do you guys remember

the chinese weakaura

[tribal wharf]

i dont like that they put in a rubix cube, and then, also, you have to track the bosses kick t hat only you the tank can see and if you dont kick it the keystone is over

[velvet knot]

for mists

[solid sun]

The first KR boss sucked

[daring marlin]

Imagine me, ret paladin

I get every single spit gold

I wanted to turn my pc off tbh

[warm plinth]

Yeah spit gold was sooooo bad

[solid sun]

I hated being put in a sarcophagus on the second boss

[frosty mango]

Algethar will be the worst key this season mark my words

[tribal wharf]

i cant do 2 god damn things at once and concentrate on them intensly both at once

[solid sun]

The third boss had that insane bleed

[warm plinth]

I literally had to hold my meta on that fight just so I could avoid a spit gold with the immunity frames

[daring marlin]

It already is lol

[tribal wharf]

im not a super human genious mutant or something

[frosty mango]

The changes they made make it booty cheeks as it scales

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it's-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159

[warm plinth]

Okay but to be fair

Other than the first boss (and he who shall not be named of course), I loved King's Rest because I was so fucking useful as a havoc DH in that place

[daring marlin]

Specifically first pack trash and final boss trash

[velvet knot]

just remove the bleed off the lashers in algethar and it becomes a fun dungeon tbh

[solid sun]

They need to bring back cathedral of the night

[velvet knot]

LET ME PULL IT ALL LIKE IN DF

[frosty mango]

First trash isn’t bad if you have a monk healer and you’re a dwarf

[daring marlin]

We pull it all every time

[warm plinth]

Cathedral is my favorite dungeon of all time. If they bring it back as a key, I might have to resub

as a key again* I should say

[daring marlin]

I just want an aug every dungeon

[velvet knot]

i dont have the braincells to manage 3 stacks

[solid sun]

Cathedral was sick

[daring marlin]

augvokers own

[velvet knot]

how do i pull 3

[frosty mango]

You can facetank to 3-4 stacks and then racial it, then you can kite

Tigers lust helps a lot

[warm plinth]

I swear to fucking god though

[velvet knot]

with 2 you can let the bleeds drop off but with 3 they keep stacking

[warm plinth]

If they take away our ability to spell reflect Chaotic Energies, I'm gonna be pissed.

[velvet knot]

how do i manage 3 lashers?

[frosty mango]

You can kite it off

[velvet knot]

they cast it miles away

[frosty mango]

Leap will get you far enough

[warm plinth]

They removed caut flame didn't they?

[velvet knot]

i only have 1 leap though and the bleed will just stack back up to 3

[daring marlin]

I haven't tanked it myself but Nimchip did it in a 14, I had my monk buddy do it in a 15 and I had a bear do it in a 15 too

mf did 1mil dps too

Bear still huge

[warm plinth]

The bleed removal that evoker had

[solid sun]

Isn’t it that they only cast it in melee but once they start casting it you can’t out range it?

[frosty mango]

Yes you keep kiting, lol

[velvet knot]

oh

so i just run

[frosty mango]

Yes

[velvet knot]

frost mage got mad at me for doing that last key bc i dragged it out his blizzard

and told me to kms c:

[daring marlin]

Once CDs are out anyway

[frosty mango]

If they are still alive at that point your dps might have broken keyboards

[warm plinth]

Tell him he's not doing damage if you're dead

🙂

[solid sun]

Frost mage can kick rocks

[daring marlin]

Can have a pally bop it off

get a cancelaura macro

[warm plinth]

dusts off /cancelaura macro

[frosty mango]

Best I’ve managed in war is 800k there

[velvet knot]

thats assuming that my pally has 3 braincells tho

[velvet knot]

i have that macro yesyes

[warm plinth]

@solid sun do we riot if they bring CoEN back but take away Chaotic Energies reflect?

[frosty mango]

Good thing he can just recast it

[solid sun]

Probs

[velvet knot]

How many stacks do i start running?

3?

[solid sun]

But they won’t

They don’t even know

[warm plinth]

Are you sure? It did like 8% of the boss's HP each time

[daring marlin]

Another reason to not invite frost mages

[solid sun]

They have no idea what spell reflect does there trust

[daring marlin]

I'm wary of frost mages and udks now

[warm plinth]

I don't think you can recast Blizzard anymore though, to be fair

[daring marlin]

I refuse to invite them now

[velvet knot]

obviously i wanna get a shitload of damage in and get a bunch of threat, then i leap at 3 stacks and kite until dead?

[daring marlin]

they're all shit

[warm plinth]

I think it was changed last expansion to have the same CD as the duration or something

[solid sun]

They’ll nerf it after someone posts a YouTube short of reflecting it and laughing

[velvet knot]

i like having udks for grips but wrecking throw has made my life so much easier for bringing casters in

[warm plinth]

Now I'm remembering the fun spell reflect bug we had on Dargrul

[frosty mango]

Are you a dwarf?

[velvet knot]

Nelf

[frosty mango]

Depends on the key level and your healer

[tribal wharf]

sorry boys

[velvet knot]

I am a filthy rper and i do keys on my RP main

[solid sun]

The pug I was in yesterday brought in four udk’s alleria to grip adds in and they kept dying

[tribal wharf]

new civvie video just dropped

[frosty mango]

I have some healers who can heal me through 4-5 stacks in a 14 np

[velvet knot]

bet ty

[tribal wharf]

ill be busy for ~1 hour watchin it

[frosty mango]

I have some healers where I gotta kite at 3

[tribal wharf]

25 minutes, short lame lol

[velvet knot]

So get 4-5 stacks. leap, Run, pop wall and spam IP and kite?

[frosty mango]

At 3 stacks start kiting, leap away and let it fall off, then I personally charge back in, keep dpsing - pop wall at 2 and kite again

[velvet knot]

Big appreciate

Ty man

[frosty mango]

Typically it doesn’t take more than one leap bc it’s all dead

[velvet knot]

Fingers crossed

if the dmg is there

[undone beacon]

This was me last season with Arcane mages and frost DKS, people chasing meta and sucking ass at it

[velvet knot]

Where is 2nd lust usually?

[frosty mango]

Tbh you can just pull two packs if the risk is too high

[daring marlin]

Fire phase on Crawth usually

[frosty mango]

The time loss for deaths greatly outweigh the time gain by pulling 3 packs so if you’re not confident just don’t do it

[velvet knot]

will it be up by then?

i feel like it wouldn't be

[daring marlin]

If you lust first big pack it can be

[undone beacon]

On higher keys for sure

On lower keys maybe not

[velvet knot]

im at 13's atm

[undone beacon]

Ehhhh depends on your dps then

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/eqLNbcgcNqo.gif

[solid sun]

I’m always afraid to start doing damage on that first pull

[daring marlin]

It came back up at like 2% on Crawth in the 14 Pash and I did with Nimchip

Just do a decent pack after if that happens and send it

Damn

I wanna do keys now

[oblique garnet]

Do it

[wise rampart]

Hey after 12.0.5 Thane still the best or colo is good ?

[jagged pier]

there is no better or worse they are within 500dps of each other pick your favourite

[harsh trellis]

I think the thane nerf got reverted

[warm plinth]

It did, yeah

Thank fuck

(95% of that thank fuck is directed at the TC cooldown part)

[daring marlin]

Seemed like a targeted fury change that just so happened to affect prot

[warm plinth]

Yeah, though they also tried to change it once before and it didn't go live

So who knows

In Dragonflight I think it was

[harsh trellis]

yeah I wouldnt have pasted that lol

[drowsy comet]

still clueless what I should craft, think a cape wouldnt be bad

[harsh trellis]

do you have a good mh and oh

[digital frigate]

I have swap to the Dwarf.

What a great move this was.

[drowsy comet]

crafted both yea

both crit haste

[flat compass]

Wwyd: champ crucible of erratic energies or champ kroluks war banner? Casual m+ and raid

Running hero drum of renewed bonds but also got a hero tangle of vibrant vines. I'm swimming in trinkets

[undone beacon]

[solid sun]

The robot shall guide your hand

[undone beacon]

Especially for trinkets, the answer is almost always to sim your character with Raidbots.com

[quiet matrix]

How do you guys rotate SW with ITF in keys 15+? Do you use it each pack and do you preemptively use it after you get some damage or you wait to drop to low hp?

I use to run last stand but got feedback from here that its bad practice and removed it. Now im kinda getting wrecked in 15s where I didnt have issues before 🥲

[undone beacon]

However, its worth noting that Tangle of Vibrant Vines is an F- trinket and can be sold without consequence

[undone beacon]

Do you have enough haste for ITF?

Also if you wait to drop to low-hp before you SW, you wasted your shield wall. Thats the bad habit that Last Stand builds

You want to use it pre-emptively before big hits, not after you're already getting bodied

Protection is a proactive tank, not a reactive one

If you know a pack is full of dangerous mobs, or you're about to get bleed stacks, or a tankbuster is about to slap you, you hit SW

If your health starts getting low, you can slam an IV

[daring marlin]

@undone beacon wanna try to do mythic chim later or MORE KEYS?

[undone beacon]

I do have raid tonight and it looks like they want me back in for prog

I honestly cant be bothered to pug chim. I havent been in a group yet than can make it to first intermission

Not killing it this week wont be the end of the world

[quiet matrix]

Yes. 1230 or something like that. If memory serves me right the magic number for ITF was 1188

Had the feeling my habbits from Last Stand are cucking me 😄 Waiting to use it when shit hits the fan ...

Alright, Ill use it preemptively. Thank you

[undone beacon]

Perfect, you're well into ITF territory, though if you're struggling with SB uptime you can still run HR. I run HR regardless because I like the ease of use lol

Yep, use it preemptively more and you'll have better results with it. Its a big 40% DR on a relatively short CD factoring in CDR so, sent it early and often

[bitter sedge]

is haste still 25% needed? I use HR instead of ItF talent to have more SB

im at 19% haste

[undone beacon]

The magic number is 1188 haste rating

%s dont mean anything

[bitter sedge]

253 still lvling this boy, prot tanking feels diff than season 3, idk

k

[undone beacon]

If you have less than 1188 haste, run HR. Once you're past 1188, you can swap to ITF and maintain effective SB uptime

[bitter sedge]

641 haste xD

[harsh trellis]

you dont have your 4 set from season 3

its slower

they slowed down the spec

[undone beacon]

Prot is more or less the same, but you're probably feeling the effects of it being a new xpac with a level squish. We just have less secondary stats than before, so overall its slower than it was

But as the xpac continues, that will naturally alleviate

[bitter sedge]

yea makes sense tbh, Im still doing good mitigation vise In m+. Just dmg a bit low.

[solid sun]

You know I went from 2800 to 3015, got resi 12’s, and got within 1% of killing H Alleria all pugging with some friends yesterday. Maybe pugging isn’t so bad after all

[undone beacon]

If you ever want advice, feel free to drop logs here

[harsh trellis]

Pugging is hit and miss in 14s

I still have 3 more keys to time for 14 resi

[bitter sedge]

Im sure gear will fix it running more survivability build though

[undone beacon]

Pugging is much more tolerable with a few friends, especially big gamers

[harsh trellis]

AUG helps

[undone beacon]

yeah you're hard throwing all your damage out the window

This build is bad

[harsh trellis]

The top 3 build

[bitter sedge]

its what Kira has for defensive build. Just snap shot it cause Im undergeared but Im at like 12s lvl at 253 ilvl

[calm plaza]

Violent Outburst is so good

[bitter sedge]

apex talent then?

[undone beacon]

We reccomend the IV talents. Kira is not a prot theorycrafter and does content that is vastly different than the rest of us really

[bitter sedge]

ye as I said I just no brained copied it

[undone beacon]

At that level they swap things around to see what allows them to barely survive in content that is bleeding edge, and can sacrifice all their damage because they play with an organized comp that can compensate for them

[bitter sedge]

I have time to do proper stuff now though

[harsh trellis]

its not a bad build, it is a fast build. but you will get cruicified for mentioning it

[undone beacon]

Yeah I getcha

It is a bad build for someone not doing 19s

You're literally inting your damage for a bunch of mediocre survivability talents

[bitter sedge]

what build should I be running then rn, the one in FAQ?

[undone beacon]

FAQ or Icy Veins yeah

[harsh trellis]

youre runnin 12s?

[bitter sedge]

cause of ilvl yx, but ill do 15+

[calm plaza]

are you having trouble surviving?

[undone beacon]

Even in 15s, no reason to drop apex

[bitter sedge]

lol nah

[calm plaza]

ok then that kinda answers your question

[undone beacon]

Nim ran the numbers, you can keep apex and swap other things around and lose less dps. Apex is big juice, and not taking 4th point means you get literally 0 defensive benefit out of it

[bitter sedge]

Prot feels tanky

[undone beacon]

Prot is tanky

[bitter sedge]

But maybe Im bad but I feel rage starved sometimes, prob rotation issue

found myself without PS

[undone beacon]

PS?

[bitter sedge]

IP*

[undone beacon]

Oh

[harsh trellis]

Topicx is runnin that build and I like how it feels also

[undone beacon]

We dont care about IP uptime

[bitter sedge]

like not at all? I mean i see it got nerfed value but

[undone beacon]

Nope. IP is a rage dump

[bitter sedge]

how do you mitigate? xD

[undone beacon]

Use it when you get above 70 rage

Shield Block is our mitigation

[bitter sedge]

Shield Wall gameplay?

[undone beacon]

Shield Block

Shield Wall is a defensive

[calm plaza]

shield block + d stance + demo shout is a lot of damage reduction

[undone beacon]

^

[harsh trellis]

Shield wall is a last resort thing dont use it as Oh shit.

[undone beacon]

No

Shield wall is preemptive mitigation

[bitter sedge]

huh ok I mean ye Im used to that, just not used to it being enough

spamming revenge then?

[undone beacon]

Its not "last resort"

[undone beacon]

Dont go below 20 rage, keep SB up, between 20 and 70 rage if SS and TC are down you revenge, if rage above 70 you IP

[frosty mango]

Shield wall should be used when starting a pack not as an oh shit

If you are ever in oh shit territory as a tank you fucked up

[harsh trellis]

If I have shield block up, and im rolling my IP, and I use a demo shout... unless im going a big gather or picking up things that will bleed me out or the effin dmg reduction things in MT, then ill use shield wall for that

[undone beacon]

If you end up in oh shit you hit IV and hope you're running BSV

[bitter sedge]

Yea I rotate cds. Im used to tanking these dungeons cause i play Monk and BDK as well

[frosty mango]

Shield wall cd rotates enough you should be using it every major pack

[undone beacon]

Also i hate to contribute more to the 1 apex vs 4 apex conversation, but even looking at murloc, more of the top 50 prot warriors are running 4 points than not

[frosty mango]

Letting it sit on cd while you’re getting beat on by 20+ mobs is not big brain gameplay

[calm plaza]

yeah shield wall is really really good and should just be used

basically any big pull

[bitter sedge]

Nah blame dps

[undone beacon]

49 of the top 50 prot warriors use Violent Outburst

[calm plaza]

especially on lust pulls to help your healer heal your DPS more than you

[undone beacon]

Kira has done irreperable damage to noober prot warriors i swear

[bitter sedge]

haha Kira has good routes

[warm plinth]

Shield Block needs to be up 100% of the time. If your haste is below 1188, change Into the Fray to Heavy Repercussions. Revenge resets Shield Slam which is BY FAR our highest source of rage generation. This will enable you to press IP just as much, if not more, because you're generating more rage by pressing Revenge when rage is not at risk of overcapping. By pressing IP when you go over 70, you prevent overcapping while still using your GCDs as much as possible to reset Shield Slam.

[frosty mango]

Kira also doesn’t really generally profess that his build is better or best

Kira is just doing Kira

[undone beacon]

Good routes but feelycraft builds and because he's a streamer people latch on to them

[harsh trellis]

Who is kira on raider io?

[solid sun]

Kira is a great player who is not a good source for pwar

[undone beacon]

I mean, i didnt say kira said the build is best but he's a content creator and people parrot their opinions because content

[harsh trellis]

I dont see the name out there

[undone beacon]

Kirawarr iirc

They're playing their brewmaster now

[harsh trellis]

ah ok

[undone beacon]

3792 on brew

2502 on pwarr

[frosty mango]

Yeah I agree but he never says “this is better because” he just plays and has his own reasons for cooking his own build, because people at that level are playing a different game

[bitter sedge]

I like his UI and routes but I agree more research needed for talents. I like pumping. The build I linked he said is cause he feels there are better surv talents to pick than 4 apex

[undone beacon]

Yep, thats what I keep telling people. But people forget that nuance and instead come here going "kira does this soooo" (which btw Fragi im not dissin on you but this is something we see/saw a lot lol)

[calm plaza]

violent outburst straight up makes shield slam hit harder than any arms ability, which means my dps brain gets big dopamine and feel happy good

[undone beacon]

Kira does have good UI and routes, he's a great player

[bitter sedge]

Is there a list of stuff you can Spell Reflect in this M+ season?

[solid sun]

Well

[undone beacon]

pins

[bitter sedge]

ty

[solid sun]

I think there’s a valid reason though

[harsh trellis]

there are but trying to coordinate that in a pug on every pull.... LOL good luck with that

[solid sun]

We need to figure out a better way to communicate about it

[calm plaza]

to that end , do we have a replacement for weakauras on that front?

[bitter sedge]

i know right, xD

[undone beacon]

Nope

Prob never will

[bitter sedge]

warrior discord is cool, thanks for all the kind help.

[frosty mango]

Talents are what they are but when you are talking about “things that impact a key” talents are inconsequential. Your skill, understanding of the meta game, timing, routing, and team gameplay is far far more important.

You could put Kira or yoda on a dogshit tuned class with randomly selected talents and they would still obliterate 99% of the player base for the same reason why liquid shits on everyone with gear that’s 30 ilvls lower - they are just vastly better

[undone beacon]

I could beat up liquids dad

[bitter sedge]

For meme, what about Colossus xD

[frosty mango]

The gap between those players and the vast majority of us is so massive I don’t think people really grasp it

[harsh trellis]

not yet

[bitter sedge]

i tried it for 5min when I dinged max lvl

[harsh trellis]

Colossus for pvp though..... still hits like a truck

[bitter sedge]

45sec cd that roots you feels wtf

but that dmg

[warm plinth]

You can play Colossus if you want to. Colo is slightly less DPS but it's viable

[bitter sedge]

you feel huge

badum tss

[solid sun]

If a top m+ person is going a specific build for survivability and someone doing 12’s is worried about dying it makes sense to take this build created for survivability. When we fight against that it sounds like we are saying their build isn’t good for survivability, and maybe it is or maybe it isn’t, but then we say what they do works for them because they’re doing 19s and I wonder if it is actually worse for survivability why does it work for 19s? I think there’s point Roid made should be stressed. Kira is just crazy good so his talents kinda don’t matter

[frosty mango]

Colossus will come back around

Roidburgs official chain of event prediction

Brew gets nerfed
War becomes meta
Thane gets nerfed
Colo gets tuned up
War gets nerfed

[ornate palm]

And never forget about the single greatest DR cooldown in your kit. Being extremely picky with your group selection.

[undone beacon]

We don’t encourage people to take talents that are theorycrafted for keys above what the average player is doing. Kira takes things because he can leverage them. The average Tommy can’t. We rail against it because people blindly taking these builds are hurting their own gameplay without realizing that, and need to know that

[bitter sedge]

Ye I agree, I see the skill diff. But If top players run something I wanna know why and will it work for me if its for them.

[frosty mango]

I am 100% confident that I could push title on any class spec if I wanted to, I’m confident in my own skills to say that. And I’m also confident when I say that people like yoda and Kira etc are just miles and miles better than me lol

[undone beacon]

If you’re dying in 12s the talents won’t change that. That’s gameplay, so we’d rather help them improve that and use the talents that will help them learn good habits

[mighty valley]

i think sometimes the top players are making specific choices for the content they’re doing and the group they’re with. i think other times they’re just saying “idk this feels good i guess” and it works anyway because they’re very good lol

[solid sun]

I understand that pash

[oblique garnet]

The reality of the difference between the ”top” players and most of the regular high key pushers is time investment

[bitter sedge]

If I die, its my problem. Skill issue. I just wanna do competitve dmg and not drag my team down. I wanna push

[solid sun]

I just think we should say Kira’s talents don’t matter because he’s insanely talented.

[oblique garnet]

The top players treat it as a job while the others do it for fun

[coarse bay]

I have watched yoda and dorki, therefor i am yorka

[solid sun]

Instead of saying the build is only good for 19s

[unkempt hazel]

whats more accurate rn, keystone guru or mdt

things keep showing different things

[bitter sedge]

guru has so many outdated routes

its annoying af

[unkempt hazel]

i mean more so %

[frosty mango]

This logic doesn’t make sense to me.

We have top players literally writing giant detailed guides filled with math and reasoning but you’d rather look at wcl and say “well this one dude is using it” and ignore the other 65000 data points that reinforce what the guide is telling you?

[unkempt hazel]

same routes show different %

[frosty mango]

Forest for the trees people

[ornate palm]

Neither. Because derp DPS will criticize your route regardless

[bitter sedge]

Yea guess so

[unkempt hazel]

no no i dont mean for finding routes as such

[frosty mango]

I disagree. I could play as much as them and make title, but never be even remotely as good

[unkempt hazel]

which is more accurate for mob %

[oblique garnet]

Youre overestimating how good they actually are

[unkempt hazel]

like keystone shows MT codexes give nothing, mdt shows they give some %

[ornate palm]

Honestly, in game MDT that’s up to date is most accurate, but can still have some flaws.

[coarse bay]

Idk i kinda agree with roid, theres just people that are that good in every game

[bitter sedge]

I could be that good if I had unlimited white monsters /s

[solid sun]

Like cam

[oblique garnet]

WoW is a simple game where if you know which buttons to press and when you will perform the same as the as the top players

[frosty mango]

I think most people underestimate their knowledge of the meta game. Calling stops, route management, adjusting on the fly, positioning etc

That’s why they are good on any class

[ornate palm]

But you can only be sure by running the key and compare.

[unkempt hazel]

pain

[frosty mango]

It’s not the skill at pressing the buttons that makes them good, it’s their understanding of the mechanics

[coarse bay]

[oblique garnet]

Again, you understand the mechanics once you get more experience which you get with time

[bitter sedge]

Not being like them doesnt mean you cant learn from then and implement habbits into your own keys to improve them... I also learned valuable insights like calling stops, tracking cc and adjusting on fly.

[ornate palm]

Like for a bit after the season started, MDT wasn’t showing drums guy at end of the bridge in MC giving count.

[bitter sedge]

Monkey see, monkey attempt to do.

[mighty valley]

i have faith that if you quit your job and family and found four friends willing to do the same, you’d be a top mythic group in no time

[oblique garnet]

The fundamentals dont change the higher you go things just do more damage so you have to adjust accordingly

[frosty mango]

Oh no I don’t disagree

[solid sun]

Idk

[frosty mango]

Just saying that it’s not the class skill that makes them good and I think that’s what most people really miss

[coarse bay]

Yup, and u see it in all skill ranges

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-hat-nod-sir-gif-13861430

[oblique garnet]

Ofc not, its the fundamental understanding of the dungeons itself that is the biggest factor

[solid sun]

Cam blew me up in every dungeon

I think cam just greater than

[coarse bay]

Not on my meters

[solid sun]

Cause you don’t have any 😂

[bitter sedge]

yw

[undone beacon]

Rhino blew me up on the meters

[coarse bay]

[frosty mango]

I did 200k overall as fury in seat yesterday

[frosty mango]

I had an Aug and pi but we won’t include that

[solid sun]

Pash is always better than me

[frosty mango]

Bring back Aug for tanks imo

[undone beacon]

Nah I was dragging ass on those alts lol

[frosty mango]

I wanna see s1 tww numbers again

[oblique garnet]

Im 100% confident that despite not playing the game for 3 years if i made a comeback i could perform on the same level as the top key pushers within few weeks of actively playing

[ornate palm]

For the past week, MDT has been accurate.

[solid sun]

Prove it

[bitter sedge]

And if I had wheels id be a bycicle.

[frosty mango]

You and nom could come back as a team

[unkempt hazel]

[frosty mango]

Boomers and zoomers

[bitter sedge]

Job is the only one keeping me from 1% i promise

[oblique garnet]

Unironically, when i was unemployed i was within the 1% now i barely have time to sit at computer

[solid sun]

Nom is cooked

Literally sunbathing

[bitter sedge]

so I did Skyreach last time, and I was out 3% at end. Felt I pulled same and no birds were left on first platform. Sometimes life just kick you down.

[oblique garnet]

Im gonna be sunbathing after tomorrow 🙏

[worn reef]

been tanking academy and i have been getting different results on that first pull, sometimes i stay alive, sometimes i don't get enough heals, sometimes i get rooted, sometimes not rooted, i save my avatar for the root? should i pull them all? cause this one group i knew they couldn't put out the damage to take on all the packs so i left one pack alone cause i knew i wasn't going to be able to take all the damage from that extra pack, is this what most of you prot wars are experiencing, like any extra tips how to be more effective on that first pull?

[undone beacon]

Avatar doesn’t break roots no more

[frosty mango]

What key level

[worn reef]

+10 to +12 level

[oblique garnet]

Thats cringe

[bitter sedge]

there are roots on first pull? didnt see any

standing in green pools?

[frosty mango]

You get rooted if you stand in pool

[bitter sedge]

cause thats your problem

[calm plaza]

oh then don’t stand in pool, write that down

[worn reef]

ah the pool creates the root

[frosty mango]

On a 10-12 you shouldn’t need to kite, gather it all and blast, avoid pool, and wall at 4 stacks of bleed

[bitter sedge]

I guarantee any tank will eat dust if they catch a pool.

[oblique garnet]

I might after vacation, but doubt i have time during summer

[bitter sedge]

maybe you dont insta die on 12 but y

[frosty mango]

Honestly gearing is dumb atm

I came back 2 weeks ago and I have two chars at 270+ and I play minimally

[ornate palm]

As always, best practice is just to memorize what the point of no return numbers are. Like before this boss I need to be at x%. And have in your mind a plan for what pack to pull just in case.

[frosty mango]

Just run 6 keys and below, it highlights the route for you

[oblique garnet]

I work 10 hours/a day only evenings so we will see

[unkempt hazel]

idk if those work in 14's

[frosty mango]

You can 100% easily do it if you put in 5 hours a week

A week to level, few hours to get to keys, then a few keys a week

The game literally vomits gear at you

[oblique garnet]

Oh yeah absolutely

[coarse bay]

I wish i got vomited gear

[oblique garnet]

Its just more likely that ill do something irl instead

[solid sun]

Late is so good

You can tell by how they are

[frosty mango]

This is my problem

[worn reef]

what % route are most of you tanks running for academy, in the keys i do i do plant boss then to arcane boss then i run backwards to the last boss trash and i am like 99% so i pull the 2 caster pack that is a distance away from that los room before the last boss, is that what most of yall tanks doing? or do you get % from that trash by the arcane boss that is skippable?

[bitter sedge]

Tree > Bird > Arcane

[frosty mango]

Aa is kinda w key tbh

[bitter sedge]

BL 1st pack and big pull before Arcane boss

[oblique garnet]

Why do something if you arent trying to be the best

[bitter sedge]

to have for last boss

[frosty mango]

There’s enough trash before last boss that you can easily adjust

[coarse bay]

Ya if u pull arcane area u get %, just w until u get to a level u need to refine

[solid sun]

I’m the comedic relief for my friends

[worn reef]

ok ill just do what ive been doing, not hitting that trash by the arcane boss down that one road

[frosty mango]

Last night it was midnight, and I was like “I could get a few keys in” but instead I decided that watching the x files while writing code in my bed was more compelling

[bitter sedge]

i like this one, used to it by now

its just dangerous if pugging cause ppl dont know what worms or surges do

[ornate palm]

You should be able to hit 100% from the 3 mobs on the stairs, the 2 standing in the grass, and the 2 at the door before last boss.

[bitter sedge]

and last pull is annoying cause ppl still dont know how to hide behind a wall for Arcane Smash

[toxic pewter]

3 echoknights on last pull is wild

[oblique garnet]

Yeah for me id rather just go outside to bar or somewhere to socialize

[coarse bay]

Ikr

[oblique garnet]

Or in general especially during summer just go outside

[solid sun]

3 echonknights is banned

[bitter sedge]

I adjust that by pulling first 2 mobs in last pull to the one on stairs

unless with my team

[coarse bay]

@toxic pewter how did dreamrift go

[worn reef]

yeah ill get more used to pulling those 2 casters and make it a quick los pull into that one room before last boss

[harsh trellis]

arent you over count with that

[toxic pewter]

just pull these two little dudes and u dont even need the 3rd echoknight pack

[toxic pewter]

not great lol sorry never replied i was in it

[bitter sedge]

yes

[coarse bay]

Did u get

[harsh trellis]

Yeah here

[toxic pewter]

nah didnt even kill it

[warm plinth]

Time to shower and go play pool for too many hours 💪

[coarse bay]

R i p

[bitter sedge]

ye I guess I can pull 2 worms less

[undone beacon]

Wait so rhino cam and apb doin keys and not inviting the rest of us smh

[harsh trellis]

fixed added an extra x on that one lasher pack near mage boss

[ornate palm]

Are you talking about the 2 mobs not in the doorway on pull 13?

[coarse bay]

Sitting in a tree

[toxic pewter]

yeah

[coarse bay]

K i

[undone beacon]

T I M I N G KEYS

[coarse bay]

[toxic pewter]

Lol i just joined voice randomly

[coarse bay]

I can get out of bed now

[ornate palm]

Man, how do you pull that off without somebody butt pulling them every time?

[coarse bay]

If we gaming

[undone beacon]

I need a 13 or high Xenas

[toxic pewter]

i got a 15 xenas

i need to do

lmk when u want to do it

[bitter sedge]

imagine ppl having invis pots in pugs

[undone beacon]

Sick actually I’d be down whenever

[toxic pewter]

trying to do m chim for now

[undone beacon]

I can log on right now if we have a group

[toxic pewter]

ill let ut knwo if this happens

[undone beacon]

Yeah I gave up on trying to prog m chim

[toxic pewter]

give me little bit

yeah its awful

[coarse bay]

Apb do u need moral support for chim

[undone beacon]

Haven’t been able to get into a group that can get to first intermission

[toxic pewter]

lol always

[undone beacon]

Is it a good group

[oblique garnet]

@frosty mango tbf the biggest problem is that id probably miss the raid gear id normally have

[toxic pewter]

i mean maybe

275 min ilvl

many ce people

[undone beacon]

Yall got a spot maybe I’ll try and sneak in

276 shadow priest is juice

[toxic pewter]

unfort need healeer

if anyone drops il lsuggest uy

uh oh

raid leader not even doing marks LOL

this not boding well

[ornate palm]

How do you skip them?

[toxic pewter]

skip wat

[ornate palm]

That last echo knight/caster pack in AA

[undone beacon]

okay uhhh maybe nvm

[toxic pewter]

yeah trust me u dont want to be in here

this rl not ddoing anything

[undone beacon]

I can survive without a chim kill this week methinks

[toxic pewter]

no comms either

wat in the world

[ornate palm]

I would love to be able to skip it but someone always pulls it.

[undone beacon]

watch easy 1-shot

[toxic pewter]

just walk right by it and care of the pat

then tank near ddoorway so people can los the slam

[coarse bay]

U should start your own group and carry me

[undone beacon]

My internet was out for our guilds kill this week

[coarse bay]

[ornate palm]

I call it out even, get inside the doorway with the 2 knights, and like clockwork those 2 pop their heads inside. I can’t even tell who pulled it because I have to grab immediately or we are cooked.

I’ve given up trying to skip. I just account for them in the route now.

[solid sun]

Yeah we weren’t just doing keys, pash

We were timing keys

We didn’t fail a single one

[undone beacon]

Why do you taunt me so

[solid sun]

APB was teaching us how to vulpera

Cam was teaching us how to blow stuff up

I ate some chips and queso

[toxic pewter]

this pug is truly miserable what have i done to myself

[coarse bay]

Lmao dip

Not worth

[toxic pewter]

i am considering it

but i want 1 pull jsut to see

[solid sun]

Abort abort

[coarse bay]

Can usually tell in 2 pulls if itll ever be possible

[undone beacon]

mmhm

[frosty mango]

I found a one night AOTC group to hide in

I’ve truly graduated to casual life

[undone beacon]

Also tonight i should have exalted with the Slayers Rise rep without ever doing the pvp event

[solid sun]

When is the one night

[frosty mango]

Friday, the only night I play before 12-1 am

[solid sun]

Hmm

Do they have room for a delicious fury warrior

[coarse bay]

They better

[solid sun]

I already have 4pc and H alnseer and don’t care about gear so I never cry

And my jokes slap

I do 18s now btw

It’s just what we do

Cam and apb and me

[frosty mango]

They wanted a healer, can fury warriors heal

[undone beacon]

Rallying cry

[solid sun]

Impending victory too

[undone beacon]

i mean Iv is only for you

[solid sun]

Still healing

[coarse bay]

Yur

[solid sun]

Healing yourself is still healing

[coarse bay]

Spitting facts

[undone beacon]

[solid sun]

Leech

Loooooot of leech going on around here

[undone beacon]

Rhino your new goal is to get a 100 healing parse for fury

Get on it

Then you can be recruited as a healing warrior

[solid sun]

If I get bandages

Can I use those and they count

Or do bandages not count

[coarse bay]

Hmm

Surely

[solid sun]

I keep telling myself I’m gonna actually heal

And then I do keys with Cam and he talks about how much healing sucks

[pallid quiver]

Just lie back and think of England

[solid sun]

What

In tarnation

[celest aurora]

Any tips on how to survive first AA pull? 🙂

[harsh trellis]

Bring an augvoker

For reals. Go look at how topicx pulls that first pull i changed to that method vs hitting the first pack of 3 wasps and it goes much better.

[ornate palm]

Leap out at 3 stacks of the bleed, charge back in when it drops. Augvoker. And DPS that evaporates one of the lashers in the first 3 seconds. Also have your group come to you.

[harsh trellis]

You basically let that 3 pack go by and start the gather on the left side

That trash pack needs to be dead under 1:58

Or your time is messed up

[ornate palm]

Most pugs will get some kind of aggro on the gather, and instead of coming to you will run like a chicken with its head cut off in neverland.

[harsh trellis]

That's 13+

12 below. You can split it up if you need to

[celest aurora]

Ty xD

[bitter sedge]

pain

[harsh trellis]

Question..... 1 apex or all apex?

[bitter sedge]

all

[harsh trellis]

I do like fury wars

I ran a pit and had 2 fury wars. They chew through shit

[ornate palm]

The common strategy for 1st AA pull is get in a group, fail, go next fail, go next fail, go next smash it.

[harsh trellis]

Lol

So true and people being secretive with resi keys

Sometimes you'll get the... hey let's reset its resi

[coarse bay]

I mean, advertising resi is just asking for bad players or bad plays

[ornate palm]

I could just be bad, but that’s a pull that everybody has to do right. As a tank of course you have to be on point, but I can’t seem to carry people through it like some other pulls.

[harsh trellis]

Yeah but you dont have to take them

its like oh hey I timed a 10 im ready for 14s obviously...

[coarse bay]

Io isnt the most accurate tool

[harsh trellis]

its a nice baseline

[coarse bay]

It’s what we have, but not that good

[ornate palm]

I still believe the most important and impactful talent you have isn’t in your build, but your privilege to be selective of your groups.

That sounds elitist though.

[supple gust]

Chat howwie feelin about prot this season?

[harsh trellis]

prot is always prot and its fine

go play monk though if youre trying to be meta

[supple gust]

I am not. Brew is weird and not very pog imo

We like to shout around these parts

[coarse bay]

Did not pass the pog check

[celest aurora]

Wait, priests cant dispell debuff from mobs , first boss AA?

[solid sun]

You mean the stacks you cleanse with the green circle?

[toxic pewter]

ok i left that m chim raid lol

[undone beacon]

rip

[toxic pewter]

gonna do irl thing real quick then lmk if u want do that 15 nexus @undone beacon or anyone else that wants to join

[waxen frigate]

Fuck you buddy

[toxic pewter]

give me 15 min

if u still down i meaen

lmk

[undone beacon]

just ping me whenever, i was gonna finish this delve then go do some chores

[toxic pewter]

ok cool

ill brb

who else want in on NA 15 xenas

lmk

[supple gust]

🙁

[pallid quiver]

NO FUCK ME

[solid sun]

Well

Fine

@frosty mango how much have you been impacted by not having raid gear

[toxic pewter]

@undone beacon wanna do the xenas now

[frosty mango]

Uh I get 95-96 key level parses instead of 99s

[undone beacon]

Sure lemme log back on and we can run it

[frosty mango]

But I pug the raids on heroic

[toxic pewter]

ok cool

[solid sun]

As tank or dps

[frosty mango]

Whatever spec I can get in in

I got a 92 as tank on heroic chim with like negative gear and my fury raid dps parses are like low 90 mid 80s? But my dps gear is eh

Key level parses are all still 90+ mostly

Imo gear doesn’t matter

Diff between a full mythic and full heroic set is minimal compared to play and in the context of keys, knowing how to pull efficiently and around others cds

[unreal sequoia]

Is it worth getting a raidbots accounts for my friends to share?

[solid sun]

You’re just significantly superior to me

I can’t do it

[frosty mango]

Can’t do what, parse as tank?

[solid sun]

I’m not even tanking this season

[frosty mango]

Parsing as tank is just uptime lol

[solid sun]

My fury parses are toast

[pallid quiver]

They're technically better than my Fury parses

[west basalt]

where are my colossus enjoyers? when do you spend demolish?

[pallid quiver]

Raidbots is super useful, and they do deserve the support, but it's really up to you as to whether you'll utilize it enough

[pallid quiver]

On CD unless there's an influx of adds coming very soon; the faster it's on CD, the faster you can begin reducing its CD again

[west basalt]

that's how i've been playing it, but I was looking at some top performers and they use it maybe 30x in a dungeon

[small steeple]

yo

[daring marlin]

@undone beacon KEYS WITHOUT ME NOOOOOOOO

[torn anchor]

oh man i made the shield slam/IP macro for ignore pain casts, what a game changer

felt like it doubled my rage gen

[narrow prawn]

guess i got lucky in the hero chest

[vocal junco]

How do I sim embellishments? When I sim the epic profession gear the loa ring is the winner but it feels like bait since most top prot warriors use arcanoweave

[jade trail]

is the thought to keep shield slam on cd more often?

[mystic cave]

I believe it is to sometimes snipe the SS when you would normally revenge (when both TC/SS are on cd), but SS comes up from proc right before you press revenge

so sometimes, since oyu are IPing off gcd, you catch the SS which youd rather click

[jade trail]

so it's a meme based on past conversations

[mystic cave]

I dont think its a meme. It won't catch everytime that happens, but if it catches it a couple times even its useful

[jade trail]

ok i see

[torn anchor]

Yeah I was missing a lot of slam resets before trying to play the prot warrior piano

[jade trail]

is that the reason some warriors have ip on scroll wheel?

[mystic cave]

Das what i do

my mouse hand middle fingers isnt doing anything anyway, so its a lot easier (for me) to get the ips off without interrupting the other buttons im constantly pressing

[warm plinth]

It's a specific macro used in a specific way to snipe SS resets from Devastator. The other macro we've probably shit on or argued about is people macroing IP to their SS button.

Which is bad

[outer willow]

I have it on my scroll wheel up, SB on my scroll wheel down.

It’s so I don’t have to file a work claim for my hands going bad

We press a lot of buttons

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-bye-bye-leave-peace-out-dramatic-exit-gif-5665420532293249253

I got a crit versa cloak

But grats to you

[daring marlin]

lol

I haven't bound shit to my scroll wheel since heroic strike as prot in BC

[calm plaza]

do we have DR for haste? if so, at what point?

[fringe mural]

I bound stuff to it all the time it's so chill for the fingers

[warm plinth]

Yes, but we probably won't get to the point we care until season 2 or 3

[undone beacon]

My scroll wheel scrolls my camera in and out

[warm plinth]

Same

[undone beacon]

Just had this Rummel guy tank a 14 Xenas

Goated tank

[outer willow]

It’s so nice man. I’m loving it

[toxic pewter]

[shrewd moss]

i tried binding IP to my scroll wheel, but found it un-ergonomic since I use an MMO and my thumbe is already in a specific button to press buttons

my biggest issue with my mouse right now is that i right click all the time to move camera around and whenever I do I accidentally click mobs and change my target. It's infuriating. Would love to disable it

[undone beacon]

MMO mouses are overrated I use one of these

[toxic pewter]

looking back with ur route lusting damage boost is the play for sure

i should of just done that lol

[shrewd moss]

I have an ergonomic mouse for work, but I use a corne keyboard and just simply don't have a numberpad

so mmo mouse is the only option for me tbh

[undone beacon]

Yeah you can kill corewarden in one lightscar with good dps

And lust

[toxic pewter]

yah that is def the play

the lust i called for was basically pointless

[undone beacon]

Nah it wasn’t

It was a good lust for the pull, and then we had it for last boss

[toxic pewter]

how does that frontal work btw that i murddered those duddes with

do u know the name by chance

like ngl its animation is not great from what i can tell?

[undone beacon]

I don’t have the name on hand but the mob buffs himself and then his autos do a frontal cone aoe with each hit

For like 8 seconds or somethin

[toxic pewter]

'

lmao oof

what a mess on my end

XD

[warm plinth]

Apb best tank

[toxic pewter]

i just killed 2 dudes

in game

lmao

[warm plinth]

They deserved it

[toxic pewter]

LOL

[undone beacon]

Cold blooded

[toxic pewter]

I keep doing this

[undone beacon]

That poor shaman hitting gust into a beam on first boss

[toxic pewter]

I swear i am not a bad person...

[undone beacon]

Tragic

[toxic pewter]

yah LOL

[warm plinth]

You just sensed something nefarious about them

[shrewd moss]

what keeb do you use, pash?

[toxic pewter]

I guess so

[undone beacon]

I use an Azio Retro Classic

[toxic pewter]

whoa

that badass

[undone beacon]

The keys have a typewriter click to them

[warm plinth]

Dude has the machine from imitation game as a keyboard

[undone beacon]

I def built my setup for style first

[waxen frigate]

I’m a ducky enjoyer

Had th same Ducky One gen1 since 2015

still going strong

[warm plinth]

I couldn't care less what my setup looks like tbh

[warm plinth]

Two different monitors gross

[undone beacon]

One was my old monitor from college and when I graduated and upgraded my setup I didn’t wanna spend more money lmao

[warm plinth]

That's fair. Good monitors are pricy

[toxic pewter]

that works better than my setup i got a ipad as my second monitor LOL

ipad MINI LOL

[warm plinth]

Bro what

[undone beacon]

That’s giga

[toxic pewter]

yeah

and my main monitor is from 2010

[undone beacon]

Routes pulled up on the iPad

[toxic pewter]

yah its aactually not bad

like its just big enough to be helpful

[warm plinth]

I got a 24" you can have

[daring marlin]

You weren't doing that before?

[undone beacon]

I thought about hanging a monitor above the setup but instead I put my diploma there and it was chill

[toxic pewter]

lol

no comment im a noob

[warm plinth]

Only been used for like 5 min

[daring marlin]

No flame just surprised

[toxic pewter]

I called for a lust for a bigger pull before 2nd

so can get lust on final boss

but like

the dam boost is prob better

[daring marlin]

last boss is a gimme tbh

[toxic pewter]

yeah

[daring marlin]

Second boss is kinda ass

[toxic pewter]

yah its better to just lust 2nd boss

im changing my entire route

[daring marlin]

faster he dies the better

[warm plinth]

I wanna do that too but I also have a sit/ stand that makes monitors challenging

[undone beacon]

That’s fair

[daring marlin]

Mount 'em

[undone beacon]

I wonder if there’s a world in which you do Corewarden hallway first and lust Ethereal boss

[daring marlin]

I love my adjustable standing desk

[solid sun]

I forgot how big of a saurfang Stan pash is

[undone beacon]

fuck Kapresh or whatever his name is

[trim condor]

did blizzard adress bug with shield? I am lvlving my warrior, did 4 delves and I have yellow shield

[solid sun]

Huge horde energy

[daring marlin]

I have to mount my monitors cuz cats are actual demons

[undone beacon]

Not a bug

That’s a feature

[daring marlin]

already had an $800 monitor destroyed once

Never again

[undone beacon]

oof

[warm plinth]

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/idasen-desk-sit-stand-black-dark-gray-s79280998/ this is my desk

[undone beacon]

I wanted a standing desk but instead I just took my grandmothers old corner desk that actually fits the space perfectly

[toxic pewter]

that how u know it work goodd

[undone beacon]

Thing is massive and fits my gaming setup, work setup, and printers/accessories

If my desk wasn’t a wreck I’d get a pic

[warm plinth]

I can't fit a corner desk

Gotta have my king size bes

Bed

[solid sun]

I just put my stuff on the floor and lay down when I game

[daring marlin]

Killer

[toxic pewter]

this guy is a true gamer

[pastel sleet]

how do yall live the heal absorb in left wing of nexus?
trying to help out the healer. seems like a lot even when i pull small
16. pres healer

[undone beacon]

This is my desk setup

[undone beacon]

We can hit IV to help burn some of it off

[torn anchor]

i main pres, i usually just have people die

[undone beacon]

Otherwise it’s just a hard heal check

[shrewd moss]

this is my setup, but I don't use the drawing tablet for games, obviously. I removed the right half of my keeb from the mount so I could move it around and use my mouse more easily, too.

I have a sit/stand desk, so the monitor arms are life-changing

I also have a portable touch screen monitor on my desk that i use for gestures for document viewing and sometimes put routes on that, but most often on my second big screen

[solid sun]

What are those white transformer crane shits???

[shrewd moss]

it's a variation on a corne keyboard case that i designed and 3d printed 🙂

[solid sun]

A what

[shrewd moss]

for ergonomic reasons.

[solid sun]

What is happening here

You type on them vertically like that?

[shrewd moss]

yes/no.

I used to. I now use only the left one vertical and right one horizontal

[solid sun]

I feel like you’re way too good at gaming

There’s no way I could use a keyboard like that

[shrewd moss]

absolutely not

[solid sun]

I’d be all fucked up

[toxic pewter]

anyone play wow with that brain chip i hear about

[solid sun]

That’s cool as hell though

[shrewd moss]

I'm just very specifically hyper focused on ergonomics and my work desk

[solid sun]

Oh you wouldn’t like pottery then

In the pottery class we did yesterday the instructor said you gotta be hunched over

[outer willow]

This is so fucking chill. I love it.

[shrewd moss]

this is just like a regular corne keyboard. it's supposed to be more ergonomic and help avoid carpel tunnel syndrome. some people add little thinkpad nubs to them to use as mice. I love this lil hacking community

my sister is a professional potter/sculpter!

but yeah the posture of pottery is miserable

[cerulean tusk]

ppl going "carpel tunnel this" "carpel tunnel that", me with a mouse and keyboard since last millenia got no problems

just git gud

[solid sun]

It was a fun class!

[outer willow]

Wife works in claims - Carpal Tunnel is $$&&&$

[fringe mural]

That is some hardcore grandma furniture shit right there

nice

[cerulean tusk]

Tell your wife to stop abusing the weak

[undone beacon]

[undone beacon]

It quite literally was my grandmothers desk lmao

[outer willow]

She’s the one who gets the weak their money!!

[solid sun]

Three monitors

[undone beacon]

Great vibes

[fringe mural]

Haha perfect

[warm plinth]

You have more personality in a quarter of this picture than I do in my entire apartment.

[solid sun]

Are those special lights to help the plants photosynthesize

[cerulean tusk]

I dont understand your weird american ways

[solid sun]

Or are they fake plants and just lights for style

[cerulean tusk]

They look kinda fake

so presume they are

[outer willow]

Ha’ thanks.

Yes those lights are specifically for the growth. They’re both a few years old and very temperamental

[warm plinth]

You're kinda fake

Gottem

[fringe mural]

my room is full of lego

[outer willow]

Very real!

[undone beacon]

Not pictured in mine is the art that I took out of a real Panera Bread restaurant and hung up in my house

[cerulean tusk]

Also, why do your matt need glue or whatever it is

[undone beacon]

Lip balm?

Looks like balm to me

[outer willow]

Basically, if your hands hurt… in California we just need you to be able to prove it’s at LEAST 1% due to work. If you can, $$$$$$

[cerulean tusk]

you need lip balm for your mousepad?

[fringe mural]

it's better than kleenex on the desk isn't it?

[solid sun]

Cat why are you going after this dude

Why grumpy

[undone beacon]

Keep your mousepad balmed

Cat didn’t say a thing about mine so that means it’s good

[cerulean tusk]

Cat is out of icecream and it is like 22 degrees, it is tropical heat

I amd ying

[fringe mural]

Lol

[cerulean tusk]

It was lip balm

[undone beacon]

Called it

[cerulean tusk]

but why

what do you use it for on your mousemat?

[undone beacon]

Do you never get chapped lips

[cerulean tusk]

No?

[undone beacon]

lucky

[outer willow]

Lucky

[fringe mural]

well he's so stressed out from those m+ he bites his lips

[cerulean tusk]

So you get chapped lips, while gaming, so you got emergency lip balm there?

[outer willow]

^^^^^

[fringe mural]

Or maybe the ac is making the air too dry

[outer willow]

No, this is also my office!

[cerulean tusk]

So you use lip balm before you got video calls?

[undone beacon]

I mean yeah if my air is dry and my lips are chapped imma need lip balm at the ready smh

[solid sun]

Cat go hang out with your roof goat

[outer willow]

Yes lol

[cerulean tusk]

Roof Goats are goated

[oblique garnet]

You drink too little water if you get chapped lips

[fringe mural]

You don't?

I have lip balm at my desk too man

[outer willow]

Not lyi n

[cerulean tusk]

So u ppl got a balm, to counter having to get a glass of water?

[undone beacon]

Hey I’m defending lip balmage

[fringe mural]

and i drink a lot of water

[solid sun]

I’ll had you know there’s water in everything I drink

[fringe mural]

Fair

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dean-winchester-oh-you-agwRgmVDJceZO

[outer willow]

But I also work with a mask on which is constantly chapping my lips. Sucks, but it’s work!

[oblique garnet]

Well you get too little sunlight

[undone beacon]

I drink plenty of water but I get bad allergies and I have to blow my nose a lot and tissues against my face dry it out and then I gotta balm the frick up

[solid sun]

I work outside

[outer willow]

^^^^ I live in “the city of trees”

[solid sun]

I don’t actually get chapped lips very often

[outer willow]

It’s wild how bad allergies hit here

[undone beacon]

This guy lives in teldrassil

[solid sun]

Unless it’s windy

[outer willow]

I wish

[fringe mural]

A contractor that isn't a little alcoholic probably doesn't exist

[oblique garnet]

What is city of trees

[fringe mural]

Gotta celebrate a little plumbing with a beer

[undone beacon]

Actually yeah what city is the city of trees

Sacramento?

[solid sun]

Uhhh San Diego

Did I get it right

Pretty sure San Diego translates to “tree land”

[oblique garnet]

Interesting

[outer willow]

Sacramento!

[undone beacon]

Here?

[undone beacon]

Called it again hell yeah

[outer willow]

Here

[fringe mural]

we have something called 'feierabendbier' in manual labor jobs

[oblique garnet]

So you just have one city where theres trees

[fringe mural]

which is the beer after work

[undone beacon]

In America, all trees are in one tree city

[fringe mural]

it's more or less mandatory in that line of work

[solid sun]

We def drink beer after successfully plumbing

[outer willow]

Nailed it. Now, what do I do for work?

[oblique garnet]

Finance

[solid sun]

Yes in America we sequestered all trees to one city where they have rights

And can live among other trees

[undone beacon]

Is your gaming set up also your work set up?

[outer willow]

Numbers, but no money.

[solid sun]

He works in the medical field

[outer willow]

Yes, but it might be misleading

[undone beacon]

Data analytics

[oblique garnet]

Ah so analyst

[outer willow]

Wow

lol

[undone beacon]

Are you actually in data analytics lmao

[cerulean tusk]

I thought he would be a robot gardener, oh well

[fringe mural]

DMNick is actually for DataMasterNick

[outer willow]

I am an Air Pollution Specialist. I work for the state government.

[fringe mural]

or DaManNick

okay then it's the latter

[outer willow]

I test consumer products in a small lab.

[oblique garnet]

So you get paid to do fuck all?

[undone beacon]

Hmmm, so kinda data analytics in a way. Close enough

That’s cool tho

[cerulean tusk]

L c i ' s s ?

[outer willow]

Absolutely data analytics.

[undone beacon]

[outer willow]

I take things in your house and test them for carcinogens

[solid sun]

Why do you specialize in polluting the air?

[outer willow]

The worst thing for you that you all use?

[undone beacon]

I must be a savant I’m three for three

[outer willow]

DRYER SHEETS

DO NOT USE THEM

[undone beacon]

Basically doxxing this guy

[oblique garnet]

Tf is dryer sheet

[outer willow]

Hahahahaha

[solid sun]

We don’t want to pollute the air

[undone beacon]

I use uhhh those wool dryer balls or whatever they are

[solid sun]

Stop polluting it

[outer willow]

Please stop polluting it

It makes my job harder

[solid sun]

But you specialize in polluting it!

[undone beacon]

Are the dryer balls bad am I being a pollutant

[outer willow]

[cerulean tusk]

DMNick just hates the smell

[solid sun]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-pollution-pollution-evil-cpmeme-strongest-gif-13356263

[outer willow]

Dryer balls are bad for YOU and the environment

[solid sun]

DMNick in his dungeons

[oblique garnet]

I dont have a dryer so im winning?

[undone beacon]

Frick I thought they’d be better

Since they are reusable

[outer willow]

DM stands for… dungeon master.

[cerulean tusk]

what is wrong with a ball of wool?

I am confused

[oblique garnet]

Nothing hes a snake oil salesman

[outer willow]

Dryer sheets that are sold here in the US are bad.

[fringe mural]

you could probably stop people from using dryer sheets by wrapping tide pods in them

[outer willow]

Do not use

[toxic pewter]

why not

[outer willow]

So true

[cerulean tusk]

what is wrong with wool tho?

explain

[undone beacon]

But I’m not using the sheets I’m using the wool balls

[solid sun]

But they make the laundry smell good

[toxic pewter]

wat wrong with dryer sheet

[outer willow]

Oh, I don’t have any info on the wool balls. I’m talking about sheets

Like tide sheets.

[undone beacon]

Oh okay

Cool yeah I don’t use those

[cerulean tusk]

time to google what the fuck a tide sheet is

[shrewd moss]

wait hang on

yeah

[fringe mural]

you know, because the people who use those would 100% eat the pods thinking they must be candy

[shrewd moss]

dryer sheets and air freshener are poison

[cerulean tusk]

the fuck is this

[undone beacon]

Here in the Protection Warrior discord we are protecting the environment

[shrewd moss]

the little balls / wool balls are great

[fringe mural]

We fight

Pollution

[outer willow]

DPS aren’t the only thing I protect

[solid sun]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-day-dont-litter-its-not-cool-captain-planet-planeteers-gif-11679265

[fringe mural]

Warriors also fight ignorance

Like nim

[outer willow]

But yes, my job is very relaxed and I feel lucky to have it. We get paid to shop for items and then test those items, and then sue the people

[cerulean tusk]

is it like a sheet of soap and some parfumes?

[outer willow]

The proceeds go to California

[cerulean tusk]

=_=

[outer willow]

Yep!

[oblique garnet]

Ah so you really are snake oil salesman

I fucking knew it!