protection

[jagged pier]

outside of really high keys LS does have niche usages there

that build means u get everything u want and only loose like 5k dps instead of 15k

i still wouldnt run it, and im still 99.9% sure in 99.9% of players cases just taking BSV will do what u want

which can be done very easily

[unkempt hazel]

im a simple guy

[jagged pier]

u got 1 flex point can go BS, BSV, BB

[unkempt hazel]

I like seeing big ||hp bar||

[naive ravine]

Im testing the embelishment that gives you stregth for bleeding enemys, is 70% uptime on 25 strength good?

[jagged pier]

not really compared to the emblishements

[naive ravine]

What does the arvano weaving thing give?

[jagged pier]

then take the first build and swap LS for EA and on average u have big hp bar

[unkempt hazel]

[jagged pier]

44 x 2 ?

i think

so 88

[lapis vortex]

Hello guys, is there snywhere a list i can see i what Dungeon i can spellreflect what mob?

[naive ravine]

It seems to be 30 x2

[naive ravine]

But on a tad bit lower uptime

[unkempt hazel]

thanks but is there anywhere a list i can see i what Dungeon i can spellreflect what mob?

[jagged pier]

the difference in ll emblishments are like > .5% it really doesnt matter

[unkempt hazel]

😏

[jagged pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[naive ravine]

[unkempt hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692637741921337414/1242910067070734356/GIF_20240522_204043_784.gif

I love skyreach

mmm bleed stacks

[jagged pier]

just

https://tenor.com/view/step-back-stay-on-your-lane-take-a-step-back-back-off-stop-being-nosy-gif-15177880

[unkempt hazel]

running away from a fight?

NEVER

[jagged pier]

no

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/slv-gld-gif-18076827

[jagged pier]

u literally step out of their range for less than a second

thats not out of your range

u can tc

[unkempt hazel]

i only press w

there's no other way I fear

[jagged pier]

[naive ravine]

I forgot to check what that does

[unkempt hazel]

I kid, I leap into another pack by accident and die

[jagged pier]

instead of 30% max HP on a max cast it will be 36% i believe

[naive ravine]

That wording is way off then

[jagged pier]

no its not

[naive ravine]

What was wrong with the wording b4 then?

Didnt it exactly say that

[unkempt hazel]

btw was meaning to ask if anyone else get random switches to bstance

or am I just special

[jagged pier]

because it pointed to total IP which is what 3 casts

when its every individual cast

note he total

[naive ravine]

Ahh

[jagged pier]

welcome to he bug with buffs etc

[naive ravine]

I guess then it makes sense

[unkempt hazel]

oh so im not going crazy then?

[naive ravine]

When does this stance swap bug happen?

[unkempt hazel]

[jagged pier]

i mean u have it better than the ppl loosing stances

and turning hostile in keys

[unkempt hazel]

lmao

[unkempt hazel]

I can never pinpoint it

but usually only notice after I drop dead

[drowsy comet]

wait what

how do you loose that lol

[arctic finch]

aint no way dropping bloodsurge is worth it , its so much rage gen

[jagged pier]

its really not as much as u think

instegate is way more

also dont want to drop bs

just swap ls for it

our talent tree is very limited u have to give something

ive dropped BS myself in some keys for bsv and not really noticed a difference at all

[naive ravine]

BS is 15% chance to grant 5 rage

Imo BS is not needed as MT

As colossus a must have

[tame jasper]

🥳 Got Heroic Gaze from Dungeonchest 😄

[cerulean tusk]

Gz

[tame jasper]

Never expected to get it, as all DPS have higher prio in lootcouncil. And now I'm the second who owns it 👼

[jagged bay]

Huge gz

[lofty glen]

gz. got he hero shield after getting myth in raid XD

[buoyant mirage]

I got the alleria neck.

from the weekly

lmao

[unkempt hazel]

I got a dawn crystal from the weekly

weird

[jade wyvern]

thoughts on ignorepain being tracked as a border on my rage? I think I like it but I also am not sure

ideally I upload a texture instead of using a border so the "border" can tick down

[uneven snow]

i found that tracking it was pretty useless for me. if i have the rage i press it without starving and if i dont, i dont..regardless of how much IP i have

but it looks neat

[jade wyvern]

yeah thats precisely why I was moving away from an icon haha, its cosmetic to track so why not just make it actually cosmetic

[maiden quiver]

I think the argument against tracking it all boils down more to the fact that any visual representation of it on your screen, whether it's an icon or a border around your rage bar or a texture that counts down, serves no purpose other than ultimately being a distraction from paying attention to other actually important things

[jade wyvern]

mostly agree. but also there are times at least in raid (not ever in m+) where if offtanking it would be nice to pay attention to if a taunt swap coming up

when your cruisin sendin revenges

very rare tho, might be wishful thinking cuz I want it to look cool 😄

[cerulean tusk]

It has absolutely 0 value to track IP, as if used to soften busters you would refresh it before the hit either way

Other than that, it used with the rotation

Kinda how BDK doesnt track their bloodpool

[jade wyvern]

fair enough

[uneven snow]

same with shield Block tbh there is this urge in me that wants to track it but why tho.. ill have it up as much as i can anyway

[jade wyvern]

hmmmm that idk if I agree with

might be right /shrug

[naive ravine]

Not tracking SB sounds terrible

[maiden quiver]

Even though the goal is to have it up all the time I don't agree at all with not tracking SB

Totally different than IP

[cerulean tusk]

SB should be tracked, it is important to keep an eye on. Especially if you run ITF

[naive ravine]

Yeah ITF needs to track it

[cerulean tusk]

If you play HR on overcapped haste, you will sit at 21 sec of duration for most of the time, so ye

[uneven snow]

i play HR yea

[naive ravine]

ITF is 10x the fun

After 1188 haste

[drowsy comet]

what is the best to craft besides weapons again?

[lofty glen]

shield

here

otherwise wrist or back

[drowsy comet]

i have weapon and shield crafted

ah okay, wrist I would have to craft yea

[ionic fern]

Your end goal is to have a mythic weapon/shield and embellishments on wrists/back.

Weapon/shield are just the biggest initial upgrades for most people.

[lofty glen]

i crafted my shield and got lucky to join a myth pug group 2 days later.... 1st boss dropped his shield

so much wasted money

[naive ravine]

Atleast u got transmog now

[drowsy comet]

haste crit or haste mastery on wrists?

[lofty glen]

got my wrists after so i swapped shield and maxed it

[lofty glen]

[drowsy comet]

[fathom turret]

Jumping on this topic as well, what do you fellow shield-raisers think about the Loa Worshiper's Band ring? I know there's no primary stat on it, but might be huge no? 🤔

[naive ravine]

No ring has primary stats?

[rancid tiger]

Do u press execute as prot warrior ?

ill go look actual guide instead of just using what i did 1 expansion ago

[lofty glen]

i got told not to do. only if you skilled your execute

[rancid tiger]

as in deep wounds ?

[drowsy comet]

could anyone help me with that sim thing? I got the addon and im on the website rn, where do I see what item would be an upgrade?

clueless here xD

[winged zenith]

Ofc you execute boss

You dont press IP on boss to drop rage, you use execute

[rancid tiger]

ok, but dont u need the IP charges to live ?

i feel like i was somewhat squishy in a 12

[winged zenith]

Not on bosses at all

[tardy abyss]

On most bosses not really

[rancid tiger]

ok

so SB - exe ? prio in that part?

[winged zenith]

You just have to know when tank buster or damage incoming

[rancid tiger]

not SB SS

[tardy abyss]

Top gear if youre talking about stuff from your inventory, otherwise droptimizer. Just gotta paste the link and adjust settings

[rancid tiger]

havent tanked since well last 2 expansions

[winged zenith]

Normal rotation but instead of IP use execute that all

[rancid tiger]

yup so still rev over

[drowsy comet]

Hm so my boots I should change to the tierset boots apparently

[naive ravine]

Execute only as MT in pure st

[naive ravine]

That sounds awfully wrong

You still want to prio builders so execute takes revenges place

Not the place of IP

[mental scarab]

Fuck IP we got healers

[winged zenith]

Boss dead less pressure for healer

So it all good

Besides IP block is small can bi ignored

[fringe mural]

Final crafting pieces are wrists and cloak right?

with arcanoweave

[kind talon]

Nerf coming in next patch seems like?

[fringe mural]

only for thane

[unkempt hazel]

worrior dead yes

[kind talon]

🙁

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/casket-grave-meme-dancing-dance-gif-16902018

[fringe mural]

warrior never die

it's one of the archetype class

warrior/mage/priest

[drowsy comet]

LOL I got the right wrists without having to craft them lmao

good that I waited

[fringe mural]

Ain't crafted wrists with embellishment better than 'regular' myth wrists?

[drowsy comet]

weekly mythic quest goated ngl

[drowsy comet]

nah, less stats than myth/hero wrists

from what I have seen

[fringe mural]

embellish is worse than 4 itemlvls on gear that has shit stats?

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[drowsy comet]

Light´s March Bracers have more Haste than embelishment wrists. And honestly I needed the Haste anyway lol

now i got 3 sparks and couple of mats laying around to rot

[unkempt hazel]

im waiting b4 crafting too (by waiting I mean im not gonna craft)

[fringe mural]

you jinx it

if you craft you get the ring

If you don't you get wrists lol

[buoyant mirage]

is that with consumes or without?

cause im over with flask

[naive ravine]

Its not about IP its about the globals u waste spending rage not generating rage

[naive ravine]

I think Nim said without buffs

[buoyant mirage]

thanks

[naive ravine]

Also somewhere in this channel are sims regarding pressing execute and without according talents overspending on globals for execute will result in a dps loss

[buoyant mirage]

I am completely new to tank and warrior, so I'm just trying to survive atm

I'll look into dps minmax later lmao

[winged zenith]

Prot warrior survivability is 2nd best atm you dont have to do much

[naive ravine]

Here it is

[winged zenith]

And IP isnt what keeping you alive its just rage dumper

[naive ravine]

It replaces Revenge when SS and TC are on cd and is not a rage dump

You still will press IP on st in execute

[winged zenith]

Well that sounds fair

Execute hit like shit

[naive ravine]

Yeah sadly

[fringe mural]

What rage bar trackers do you use?

[naive ravine]

We rly should pin all those good msgs

[winged zenith]

Time to take out execute from my bar or at least move it to least used keybind then

[drowsy comet]

im really in need of mythic crests lowkey, my weapon and shield are still hero crafted smh

[unkempt hazel]

im jsut cheap

lol

[waxen ether]

Amigo's i have a question about this week affix with bitter immunity. I can't seem to find this talent in the tree. Where is it

[winged zenith]

You cant go 15+ with hero crafts

Its griefing

[stone tundra]

Gone, reduced to ashes

[waxen ether]

That explains.... all them reddit post with ways to help yourself in m+ arent aware of this then

[stone tundra]

Depends on the date, was still there with same affix during tww

But still would not take it

[naive ravine]

I have maxed out basically all my crests since yesterday

[waxen ether]

@stone tundra True, but just wondering. Thanks for the info

[drowsy comet]

big sadge

[dull fossil]

anyone got some numbers (or just paid attention) how high the alnseer trinket stacks?
Not exactly, but like 2 or 20?

[pastel geyser]

Takes like 8k gold for ring bro how cheap xd

[unkempt hazel]

u have no idea how cheap

[pastel geyser]

Go do 5 gold world quests and 2 weeklies

Takes u 20 min

Gather for 1 hour u get 50k minimum

[unkempt hazel]

20 mins too long

[pastel geyser]

Yall allergic to making money and it shows

[unkempt hazel]

i love making money

I hate spending it

[pastel geyser]

How much money donyou have where u dont wanna spend 8-10k bro

💀💀

[unkempt hazel]

just 2 mill, im actually poor

[dull fossil]

same here. 3.4m and I refuse to enchant 6k on a veteran piece

[unkempt hazel]

seeing ppl walking around with billions im scared of spending any of it

[dull fossil]

at least the petrified roots are normal priced now 😛

prices overall still feel whack

[unkempt hazel]

shame

I liked selling them lol

[dull fossil]

you had your 2w window

[unkempt hazel]

😔

also im still devastated, spent 18k on majestic hide for an enchant

only to forget to use conc

never gon recover from that

[dull fossil]

oh yeah, they really messed up skinning

engi bracers? 300g
lw pants needing a majestic, 22k, get wrecked.

[unkempt hazel]

yeah not a fan of enchants needing skinning mats

or well, any mats other than from enchanting

[dull fossil]

some cross-use is fine but not if the best one depends on a 20k item

[unkempt hazel]

I also hate how many recipes are like

u need 1 of this, 8 of that, 10 of that

the 1 being like 5 gold

while the 10 ones are the most expensive

500 gold each

logically shouldn't it be the other way around 😭

[pastel geyser]

I made 25 mil since early access xD i can finally feel rich

But u can spend that much on a crafted piece why not

[unkempt hazel]

mat rarity just bothers me in general, like sanguinethorn being "uncommon" yet I see it as often as tranq bloom

[pastel geyser]

Also there are cheap enchants that go for 20g

I used those on non hero gear

[unkempt hazel]

I mean same

[pastel geyser]

Prices dropped massively since this reset its not even funny

Majestic hide has been my main income for a while now its doen to like 6k

[unkempt hazel]

damn it dropped

shoulda waited

I remember when I first bought it, it was 18k I was 1 k off

went to bank to grab some more

cam back its 19k

[placid oar]

Hi guys, can someone experience pls advise why I tried tanking a +10 AA with a champion shield and the first pull where I pulled the whole room, my health dip really quick after my first shield wall.

After that it’s a struggle for me to mitigate though I was spamming ignore pain, ensuring my back was not hit and have shield block up.

Appreciate any advice to improve or know where I did wrong, thank u

I tried rotating my fear and shockwave too

[unkempt hazel]

when all else fail, blame healer

[drowsy comet]

fuck you mean youre poor, i only got 400k gold spread around 2 characters. Rich people..

[lunar flower]

you rotate SW into demo shout into SW, if you're dwarf use the racial at 5-6 stacks, otherwise/lastly leap away to reset stacks

[unkempt hazel]

im poor

ur just

poorer

we're all poor compared to the smart ones who invested into wod garrisons early

[drowsy comet]

people pay 160m Gold for a Spectral Tiger btw, let that sink in...

[unkempt hazel]

yep

some ppl are just filthy rich

just like real life

[tribal wharf]

i have 10 more days

of being overpowered and broken

to do some 10s with zero effort

wonder if i can do all 8

did 2 of them so far, but i know those well

[lofty glen]

i am on 50k wtf

[drowsy comet]

after the 10 days what happens?

[drowsy comet]

atp, just buy a wow token

[lofty glen]

patch 0.5 comes

[tribal wharf]

thane gets a slight nerf

[drowsy comet]

12 days

[tardy abyss]

slight

[drowsy comet]

11

[lofty glen]

10?

[drowsy comet]

11 days for me

[tribal wharf]

im going with 10

cuz its on the 21st

so we dont get the 21st included with that

its in the AM too

for NA at least

[drowsy comet]

i hope they wait a little more with the big power boost and first let us just discover the things, one of the first things for me will be to get these purple T2 sets

[tribal wharf]

which, i am clearly NA, cuz i start playing and chatting here from about 5:30 am to 9:30pm

EST zone

[placid oar]

Ohhh okay got it, thank u so much. I did not monitor my debuff and I’m sure that’s what caused it.

Really appreciate it 😊

[lofty glen]

what is the diff between thane and collo defensive wise?

[tribal wharf]

basically nothing, if you play it correctly

[unkempt hazel]

what if i play it incorrectly

[tribal wharf]

slightly harder than it sounds, but not really, its easy to gauge as pwar

does your hp bar go down, if yes, you are playing it badly

because between your defensive powers, and your healer, you should be able to survive virtually any mechanic as pwar

[lofty glen]

well thats cap. if you pull a bunch of shit and lose like % armor than its normal to drop XD like wtf

[unkempt hazel]

okay lemme phrase it differently, if i play both incorrectly, which one is better

[tribal wharf]

its a bit yes and no, and a bit meme lol

[lofty glen]

now thane. in 2 weeks collo

[tribal wharf]

cuz you have SO many different, negate dmg, stop spells, reduce incoming dmg things

[unkempt hazel]

I think brew got me spoiled

[lofty glen]

well still call it cap. nexuspoint 1st pull you cannot lose no life

[tribal wharf]

dont overcomplicate with pwar, just hit shield block and shield slam and thunderclap and dont ask why

[unkempt hazel]

this reminds me I need sb tracker or sum

[tribal wharf]

i just use the basic blizzard one

[unkempt hazel]

the what

[placid oar]

U can just use the ingame cd tracker.

It works fine and I’m using it

[tribal wharf]

the cool down manager thing

[placid oar]

Just need to drag shield block into buffs to track

[unkempt hazel]

🙃

[tribal wharf]

and tracked buffs

[unkempt hazel]

seems i missed something important

lol

[tribal wharf]

there is 3 ways to track your stuff in blizzards edit mode

cd, buff, and progress bar, its weakaura lite basically

[unkempt hazel]

got it gon look into it then ty

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DOK2ACHQQ4

heres a pretty good example of what i meant "health bar should not go down"

he is pwar, , doing a kind of high key, and as you can see, when he does take dmg, its for like, 2% or 3% of his hp, and his HP total isnt really going below 90% for long periods of time

[drowsy comet]

Topicx is goated

love watching his povs

[unkempt hazel]

is he using hp talent

[drowsy comet]

idk

[unkempt hazel]

thats a lot of hp

[drowsy comet]

no way

type shit

[unkempt hazel]

me watching it jump like a blood dk

healer carried gg

[tribal wharf]

he is ilvl 274 which is pretty large

so thats part of it

[unkempt hazel]

yknow what else is large

my debt

is he?>

damn i got more ilvl than him

/flex or something

(I still suck)

bro can armory update my tmog already

wtf is this

[tribal wharf]

im not sure what you mean with hp talent,

[unkempt hazel]

yeah he got both

[lofty glen]

in my mind it also depends on your healer. if you have a drud that hots your as up like a monster its normal. do you have a reaktive healer like holy it will drop

[tribal wharf]

if you mean the impending victory hp talent NOBODY takes that

[unkempt hazel]

the red muscular manly man

[tribal wharf]

oh indom

thats hotly contested here take it or no

[unkempt hazel]

yeye

[lofty glen]

oh playing 1/4 apex..... nvm

[unkempt hazel]

i was just curious

[tribal wharf]

but i copied that load out from his armory

[solid sun]

His talent build sucks

What a shame

[lofty glen]

yes

[unkempt hazel]

he just like me fr

[lofty glen]

and no wonder he dont drop in life

[tribal wharf]

no intervene 🙁 sadness

[unkempt hazel]

I also like large ||hp bar||

[lofty glen]

also shit tbf

[tribal wharf]

i am addicted to intervene now

never dropping it

[unkempt hazel]

I only use it to move through the wind thing in skyreach

[lofty glen]

just learn the skip and use it to keep your healer and dps alive

[tribal wharf]

i see it as 3rd major MS buff

dont really find the team run fast one is like, super

its over so fast and on a over 1 minute cd

[unkempt hazel]

i should prolly untalent it honestly

im the kind of player to never use bop and loh as pala unless im holy

[tribal wharf]

its better than the mass fear one is what i think

i am forever convinced mass fear is ,.......... its like a nuclear bomb in a keystone

[lofty glen]

you should try playing with apex 4/4 and just keep uptime on sb and ip. than you dont have that much problems. on bigger plls demo shout and if you think the healer cant handle it use your 40% cd

[tribal wharf]

doesnt matter who casts it

that type of button has the ability to delete your keystone

[lofty glen]

no. only in dungeons with undead

[unkempt hazel]

idk the fear one has been pretty nice as interrupt, have yet to see the fear not get broken within a milisecond

[lofty glen]

this

[tribal wharf]

i dont trust it for a second

[unkempt hazel]

fair ig

[unkempt hazel]

oh i just realized he took 3 points of phalanx

wicked

so bunch of dmg and 5% dr for a lot more hp and a death save

[mental shoal]

Why Icy and Wowhead have different BiS gear?

[lapis vortex]

Hello guys, im really wanna learn a Tank. Actually im playing DD on 14 and 15.
Im just lvling a Protection Warrior and im almost 90.
I just rly try to get a good tank and now i have some questiond from my dungeon spam. I hope u can help me.

a) should i use shield charge and then immediately use both shield shield block or only refresh in DR?
b) where can i find a list what skills i can spellreflect in M+?
c) who know a good prot warrior who is streaming and showing an actiontracker? (Skills he is pressing)

[unkempt hazel]

bro is about to hit 100

what a chad

shield charge gives shield block no? so no reason to use another one instantly

[solid sun]

Usually we point people to Sense if they want to watch a pwar

[unkempt hazel]

as for reflect check pins

[solid sun]

Idk how often he streams

Plka streams and is a longtime Warrior player

[lapis vortex]

Ah ty for spellreflect.
Plka stream but no actiontracket

[solid sun]

But you don’t need to watch a stream tbh. The Icy Veins guide has the prio list

[lapis vortex]

Does shield blocks stack? So charge + block

[lapis vortex]

Its more on pulls how they add other mobs, how they junp from grp to grp

[lofty glen]

Cause icy is right and wowhead shit. Just sim your gear that you get

[solid sun]

SB can go up to 3x its duration

[lapis vortex]

When use zhrow and so on…the practice tipps and tricks i wanna learn as well

[solid sun]

Idk if there is a high level pwar main who uses an action tracker

But tbh you can kinda just tell what is being used. Maybe when you’re more familiar with the spec you’ll pick up what they’re using and when

[lapis vortex]

yeah sure learing by time but there are things u dont learn if u dont go really really deep and i just try watching extreme good players

and then think why they do it

[jagged pier]

But u dont use shield.charge first

If u are charging u use charge

Sc is a stop once the pull is in progress/ u need bloc up and or used on gc inside your cds

[unkempt hazel]

ok nerd

I didnt think that much ahead ok

[lapis vortex]

ah so i use normal charge first and then press shield block?

[jagged pier]

Yes

Its more rgae as well

[dry spear]

You dont pull boss with sc? Ohhh. I did that wrong

[jagged pier]

Shield charge is not a charge its basically a dps cd to be pressed on cd

[lapis vortex]

ah nice. And do you use All shield blocks back to back (so both)

or always refresh when almost expired?

[unkempt hazel]

but yes, charge gives rage, shield charge dont i believe

[solid sun]

You dont use them all

Together

[lapis vortex]

shield charge give 20 as well

[jagged pier]

U charge, avatar tc/ss block demo sc normal rotation

[unkempt hazel]

either way u can still scharge when ur in the fight, while charge needs distance to be used

[jagged pier]

Yes but if you are using shield charge at anypoint to charge when u have charge is a no go,

[unkempt hazel]

well eay fix

dont have charge then

[lapis vortex]

i saw a video from Awoo and he said use Shield Charge, cauze then Shield Block is immediatley up

[lofty glen]

its dmg minmaxing. its fine to SC 1st

[errant leaf]

Better is charge bc sc can be used in melee

U gain rage

[jagged pier]

So is sb if u chrage ss

As sb is off gcd

Its up instantly anyway

[unkempt hazel]

i dont see why cant u just charge and sc instantly after

[errant leaf]

This aswell

Thing is sc deal good dmg

So better with demo up

[jagged pier]

This also only applies for literally the first pull of the dungeon after block is rolling so charging with charge even mor eppintless

[unkempt hazel]

I mean in the awoo situation

[jagged pier]

Charge and ss is insta block

As well

35 rage on a off gcd ability

Insta up one the first gcd of combat

[errant leaf]

Charge+ava -> sc+sb-> tc for threat->demo-> sc

[unkempt hazel]

or what that warr did in seat above

just sw before charge

altho he prolly did it cuz of last stand

[jagged pier]

U do that for champions anyway

[unkempt hazel]

fair

[solid sun]

wtf is Awoo

Are they Awoorrior

[jagged pier]

Tank strimmer

[solid sun]

Jakey how are you

[jagged pier]

Same same

Ppl at work kept saying it seems like a bucjet has been up turned on you lately

I cannot disagree

[solid sun]

Let’s try to keep the buckets down low

On the ground

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-bucket-meeting-discussion-gif-17278301

[jagged pier]

[unkempt hazel]

i believe its time

for some catposting

[jagged pier]

[jagged pier]

Omg so cute

[solid sun]

My daughter named him Soup

[plush tendon]

I have a theory, that on average, gamers prefer cats over dogs

since cats require less attention and therefore more gamer time

[solid sun]

Well

[jagged pier]

[solid sun]

I have another cat and also have two dogs

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[unkempt hazel]

so real

[jagged pier]

I like cat, cause am lazy and dont like outside

Also cat family always had cats

[unkempt hazel]

ive put a blanket on the side of my table

now he chillin next to me

🙏

[jagged pier]

Also i used to have subconsious fear of dogs because one jumps on me as a bed not doggos fault didnt know i was on the chair. At least am over that now

[jagged pier]

[unkempt hazel]

also being liked by a cat feels more special

[jagged pier]

I know what u mean

[lusty grotto]

i like dogs more

ngl

but cats are cool

[unkempt hazel]

very well, heres a dog

[jagged pier]

[unkempt hazel]

a smol one

[jagged pier]

Cat sized doggo

[unkempt hazel]

but a dog

will you shake a poor sinners paw

[daring marlin]

cute kitty

[plush tendon]

its not mine... its just a gif

[daring marlin]

I know this

[plush tendon]

ya boi cant have a kitty.... roommate is allergic

[unkempt hazel]

[daring marlin]

time to yeet the roommate

[plush tendon]

big sadge

[plush tendon]

ya, but hes also a cutie

[daring marlin]

I was allergic once

[plush tendon]

[daring marlin]

I dunno how I'm not anymore

It was bad too

[plush tendon]

also, I dont know how to take care of a indoor cat

all the cats I had growing up were outdoor cats

[solid sun]

At my previous house. They’re best buds

[daring marlin]

pyt out food and water, change litter box, bring to vet every now and then

[lusty grotto]

best combo

[daring marlin]

awesome

also play with the cat too lol

[solid sun]

Soup left his water bowl to go drink with Finn

Struggling to get to it but didn’t care

Finn also stays right next to me when I’m smoking meats. Just sits there waiting no matter how many hours it’s gonna take

[plush tendon]

cause Finn wants some meats to!

[solid sun]

Heck yeah

[plush tendon]

my cat did the same; would hang out with me while I cooked

cause I always had to give him some nibbles

[fringe mural]

wait a minute

[plush tendon]

[fringe mural]

i was just checking the engineering recipes

if you craft wrists, wouldnt it make sense to craft full haste wrists instead of the smithing ones?

[plush tendon]

the issue with engi ones is the embellishment

[fringe mural]

ah

[plush tendon]

engi embellishments (as far as I know) are mid

[fringe mural]

so they only make sense as a gap closer until you have myth gear

and if you have 2 embellishs on other crafts already

[plush tendon]

Engi bracers just generally dont make sense

cause bracers are the ideal embellishment slot

so crafted bracers+arcanoweave is BiS

[fringe mural]

so what would you pick then, helm if the tier piece has shit stats?

[plush tendon]

you just wouldnt use engi

[lusty grotto]

augusto, you keep missing cloak

cloak has the same stat pool as bracers

[tribal wharf]

i lucked into some giga hero bracers with 3rd stat and gem slot

[fringe mural]

cloak and bracers are the two you use embellish on i get that

[tribal wharf]

so im NEVER changing those basically

[lusty grotto]

you should

[plush tendon]

yea, for both embellishments, if you wanted to "BiS" out your toon, its cloak and bracers

I got unlucky in first vault so I have a myth cloak with decent stats

but its decent for PVP so win?

[unkempt hazel]

like crafted wrists cuz I can socket them with no worries

[plush tendon]

Im also running into a problem where I wont have enough myth crests starting like next week to upgrade my myth gear and a crafted piece

[unkempt hazel]

perks of no mythic raiding

[fringe mural]

so no useful ingi stuff at all this season?

[unkempt hazel]

not enough myth stuff to upgrade

[fringe mural]

besides crafting profession gear

[plush tendon]

the best thing from Engi is combat resses and auto hammers

which are like must haves in keys

[unkempt hazel]

altho u can just buy those

[plush tendon]

this is true

[fringe mural]

is that thing a mass ress when everyone is dead?

[unkempt hazel]

combat res

[fringe mural]

yeah the emergency soul link

is a combat res

[tribal wharf]

i think its going to be really hard to beat that

[fringe mural]

but there's M3DDY

[solid sun]

I haven’t crafted my second piece yet

[tribal wharf]

going to be better than anything i can find until 3/6 myth

[fringe mural]

i'm missing the myth crests for it because i only went delves and nullaeus yet

[solid sun]

I have enough

[plush tendon]

yoooo Rhino, wann send me some myth crest?

[solid sun]

But I think I’m swapping from fury to arms so I’m just kinda chilling until I figure out what I’m doing with my life

Yeah dude I got you

[unkempt hazel]

think i got both of my crafts 2nd week

[tribal wharf]

god damn

game

piec of crap

2 off

[fringe mural]

go nullaeus

[unkempt hazel]

just do 1 11 delve

prolly fastest way

[lusty grotto]

why, he does keys

[solid sun]

Nim

[fringe mural]

he wants them really fast i guess

[unkempt hazel]

keys take time

[solid sun]

Remember when you told me to look at the fury guide

[lusty grotto]

you cap myth crests in like 5 keys

[solid sun]

Cause I was big poop

[lusty grotto]

yes?

[unkempt hazel]

but doing a delve is faster

time is monies

[solid sun]

I hit 111.9k dps last night

I’m growing up

[lusty grotto]

nice

[fringe mural]

st?

[lusty grotto]

well done

[solid sun]

I probably should write the guide now

[cerulean tusk]

ST

[solid sun]

Nah overall for a dungeon 😂

Brew still beats me by like 70ish k

He built diff

[cerulean tusk]

[unkempt hazel]

unless its me

[lusty grotto]

well brew also got fed gear

[cerulean tusk]

Just a tad

[fringe mural]

i need to enchant my weapons on fury

[solid sun]

I been hitting all these gold world quests

Gotta enchant my gear and I still have like 3 champ pieces

[fringe mural]

war mode hopefully

[lusty grotto]

good shit

[unkempt hazel]

my last dungeon on monk was uber luck

shoulders dropped and druid dint need the pants

2 last champ slots

big

[fringe mural]

getting all those professions up early really pays off now

the stuff i'm getting back from patron orders and the goodie bags is adding up

[solid sun]

I think BS is just a gold sink tbh

[unkempt hazel]

I dont think I made that much

[fringe mural]

unless you have massive resourcefulness

[unkempt hazel]

think im only up 400k since the start of exp

[fringe mural]

then you get all the gold alloys from people back

when you craft their stuff

[cerulean tusk]

I am down 400k, give me some gold

[unkempt hazel]

lmao

[lusty grotto]

fucking majestic hides went down from 14k to 5k

thank god i made bank with those

[fringe mural]

yeah

[unkempt hazel]

I did sell dawn crystals early n such

[fringe mural]

our hides were at 20k for a while

[unkempt hazel]

fml

[fringe mural]

but then i didnt get them

[unkempt hazel]

so i could've waited just 1 week and save 13k

[fringe mural]

now they drop and i cant sell

[unkempt hazel]

I had same with lotus

[fringe mural]

everything is dropping now since even the late starters get proper talents

[lusty grotto]

i mean 5k each is still pretty decent

[unkempt hazel]

istg its so damn rare for me

[solid sun]

How do they suddenly drop so fast

[fringe mural]

talents

[lusty grotto]

supply and demand

[fringe mural]

even the profession noobs have talents now

[unkempt hazel]

bots

the answer is always bots

[fringe mural]

and get the stuff

[unkempt hazel]

[fringe mural]

always

[unkempt hazel]

it may still go up tho tbf

altho idk about the hide

[fringe mural]

like i can craft perfect vials for gold cauldrons now and it's just +/-0 buying the mats and crafting them

[unkempt hazel]

enchant and herb stuff often goes up on raid nights

[fringe mural]

the profit comes from multicraft procs

so purple profession gear is where the money will be now

[unkempt hazel]

thats the issue

ur buying the mats

gotta gather all day urself

[solid sun]

Where do majestic fins come from

Is that fishing

Or skinning

[fringe mural]

no

[unkempt hazel]

from majestic fish

[fringe mural]

skinning

[tribal wharf]

I gotta do tier 10 delve lol

[plush tendon]

how do yall have the patience to farm mats

[fringe mural]

i just farm once a week

[unkempt hazel]

when I dont rly feel like doing anything

[fringe mural]

for the talent points

once i have those i rarely do

[unkempt hazel]

I just listen to some video and chill

[plush tendon]

I must always be in instanced content

[solid sun]

Instead of flying in circles around Silvermoon I mine nodes

[tribal wharf]

for mining its giga easy cuz i got paladin miner, faster mounted speed and bubble mining

[plush tendon]

I havnt done a prey or WQ since the raid and M+ released

[cerulean tusk]

What is prey?

[unkempt hazel]

i only do it for weekly

[tribal wharf]

i could spend a week mining on him and have ore for rest of the expansion

[unkempt hazel]

for the beacon thingy

[fringe mural]

outdoor content where you get champ gear

[lusty grotto]

weekly gives you uncapped crests so

you should do it

the 3x nightmare one

[solid sun]

I like the prey stuff

[unkempt hazel]

altho prolly not anymore since im pretty much set on hero gear

[cerulean tusk]

How about no

[plush tendon]

wait.... uncapped myth crests

[fringe mural]

uncapped heroic?

[plush tendon]

[cerulean tusk]

I will just wait one more week to craft

[unkempt hazel]

its hero

[cerulean tusk]

Hero?

[unkempt hazel]

or was it myth

[cerulean tusk]

We already done with hero

[plush tendon]

uncapped hero from nightmare prey???

[cerulean tusk]

Get out of here

[solid sun]

My friends and I all went to my house yesterday for hero crests

[fringe mural]

from the weekly he said

the one where you have to kill 3 nm preys

oh sry

[cerulean tusk]

Who wants hero

[unkempt hazel]

i honestly dont remember what it gives anymore

[solid sun]

I do

[unkempt hazel]

lol

[fringe mural]

well even if you're done with hero you can still transmute to myth can you not?

[unkempt hazel]

yeah u can

[fringe mural]

when you're hero of dawn

[solid sun]

Why wouldn’t you want hero

[cerulean tusk]

Yeye, it is just free

[unkempt hazel]

unless myth capped too

[cerulean tusk]

Myth cap is still fat off

[unkempt hazel]

think im capped

nothing to do

dead game

[solid sun]

Do you already have all your hero track gear max uppied?

[unkempt hazel]

not me

but alr spent all i could

[cerulean tusk]

You saved a lot of you did the 6/6 Champ hero save

[unkempt hazel]

a few ups off

[solid sun]

Or are you just capped on hero crests?

[cerulean tusk]

Myth*

[solid sun]

No cat I’m asking you

Cause you said you don’t want hero crests

[lofty warren]

Sounds like ur done for the week and can make alt

[plush tendon]

yo guys, big question for my rat VDH vault

[cerulean tusk]

I am myth Andy now, yep

[drowsy comet]

man its cold af, almost mid april wth is going on

[coarse bay]

I believe they removed the uncapped part of that after the first week of it

[plush tendon]

do I take myth chest or take myth crit/haste set ring?

[drowsy comet]

yes

[coarse bay]

259 paw

[unkempt hazel]

2 slots?

casual

[drowsy comet]

ring

[plush tendon]

I only did 4 keys on the VDH

hes my 4th toon

[drowsy comet]

you want ring so you have one less item to worry about, and farming Nexus sucks

[coarse bay]

[cerulean tusk]

Chest, mainstat king

[plush tendon]

no tier piece on him yet either

big sadge

[unkempt hazel]

imagine not maxing it on all your alts

what are u even doing

smh

not playing the game CLEARLY

[plush tendon]

I was told VDH was squishy

[unkempt hazel]

[plush tendon]

I was lied to!

was kind of fun

[drowsy comet]

i need to gear my prot pala lowkey, kinda done for the week on my pwarr anyway tho

[unkempt hazel]

when i play holy pala

ngl

[cerulean tusk]

VDH plays like shit

[unkempt hazel]

I avoid vdhs

lol

and bdks

[lofty warren]

Is vdh any good now? I have pwar and brew but I kind of dont like brew

[plush tendon]

VDH is fine

not winning any awards

[unkempt hazel]

at least so far i haven't seen a vdh that doesn't randomly pop

[lofty warren]

Like the gameplay not the power I can look at tier lists for power

[drowsy comet]

cuz it is

[plush tendon]

but if you like VDH, its aight

[unkempt hazel]

they stress me out lol

ik i barely need to bother

but i cant help it

[lofty warren]

Do you press demon vomit? I saw a beta yoda video where he said you dont press vomit at all now

[unkempt hazel]

that yoyo hp bothers me

[drowsy comet]

https://youtu.be/OyKwV2zmL8I?si=7GTSZK10E29xMWec

[coarse bay]

Why would u let a bdk stress u out

[drowsy comet]

well VDh does look nasty, in a good way

[coarse bay]

Just dont stress

[unkempt hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[lofty warren]

Do you press demon vomit? I saw a beta yoda video where he said you dont press vomit at all now

[cerulean tusk]

Vomit no longer grants meta, it aint a defensive anymore

[plush tendon]

IDK

I press it

[coarse bay]

Ya vomit no meta is kinda weirdly

[plush tendon]

seems kind of lame not to press it

[cerulean tusk]

Dont

It useless

[coarse bay]

So when i was doing vdh without guide

[lofty warren]

Its just for dps gain or can be removed completely?

[coarse bay]

Me doing vomit was bad

Rip

[drowsy comet]

This jump from +12 and up to +15 and up is insane, cuz wtf is this

[cerulean tusk]

I still in the habbit of pressing vomit to meta

Never ends well

[lusty grotto]

its like the new kid keeps being new

[unkempt hazel]

isnt he taking extra bird for no reason

[coarse bay]

Tbh theres not many people that care about pushing rn, and the ones that do are probably meta

[drowsy comet]

extra bird? wdym

[unkempt hazel]

the one that pushes u off

the big birb

[plush tendon]

yea, Brew is solidly the tank people prefer from M+ this season

[lusty grotto]

you pull one of them

[drowsy comet]

Yea people will chill and just gear atm, Pushing most likely will begin once the void forge is there and maybe even turbo boost or something, then ppl will go crazy

[unkempt hazel]

unless they're doing some wicked skips later

u only need 1

[plush tendon]

but IDC, I havnt leveled my brew yet

and I have a hard time getting into a brewmaster mindset

[coarse bay]

If u get an extra birb at start u dont need a guy at the end

I get extra birb

[lusty grotto]

yup

[plush tendon]

I usually play plate classes

[lusty grotto]

i get extra birb too

[white stag]

Real talk is maxing out the apex talent really that necessary for M+?

[unkempt hazel]

what guy

[plush tendon]

except DH.... BFA DH sold me on the class

[unkempt hazel]

[lusty grotto]

real talk yes

[drowsy comet]

Brew is boring af, the rotation is lame

[plush tendon]

it looks like it could be fun though!

[unkempt hazel]

love my brew

altho it got much simpler now

[plush tendon]

I gotta level my bear and brew still

[unkempt hazel]

actually close to bear simplicity now ngl

[lofty warren]

If you dont press demon vomit then how do you even get stuck in an animation and die to swirl on ground?

[coarse bay]

If u dont pull an extra birb, the very last section where it splits, youll need to grab something from the other side for %

[plush tendon]

It looks like Kira presses Fel Dev still

just isnt as strong as it was with demonic

[unkempt hazel]

I never had to do that?

[white stag]

Wouldn’t it be better to invest in Indomitable and battle scarred instead for higher keys?

[drowsy comet]

i dont wanna level a DH, but it looks so damn good actually, compared to Beta

[plush tendon]

but the VDH apex talent might be the best apex talent

[unkempt hazel]

with no extra bird

[lusty grotto]

you can grab them while still going 4/4

[coarse bay]

Then u pull extra without knowing

[plush tendon]

controllable meta procs?

[lusty grotto]

not going 4/4 with them you lose 5% DR and 13k dps

[plush tendon]

[drowsy comet]

also even this, archon isnt sure how to rank the tanks either lol

[lusty grotto]

can you guys shut the fuck up

someone is asking questions

stop the tank meta garbage talk when there are actual questions going on

[unkempt hazel]

no no they're right

prot warr not s tier

give up

[lusty grotto]

here you go @white stag, this build is 5% DR and 13k dps more than the cursed 1/4 build

[drowsy comet]

answer it then, theres multiple people talking

[lofty warren]

Gup idk what archon ur looking at bc i see diff

[plush tendon]

[drowsy comet]

are you colorblind or why is everything so red

[stone tundra]

shows the same numbers, me confused

[lofty warren]

Can we pls get a 20% brew nerf so I can abandon it

[unkempt hazel]

no

give 20% buff to other tanks

instead

😡

[lofty warren]

Deal

[white stag]

Wouldn’t losing tough as nails really take away from our damage though?

[lusty grotto]

its...

[plush tendon]

whichever way you slice it, you are gonna lose damage

[lusty grotto]

13k more dps

[plush tendon]

this loses less damage

[lusty grotto]

than the cursed build

[lofty warren]

You being dead takes away from your damage

[lusty grotto]

13k more dps

the cursed 1/4 build HAS TaN

[drowsy comet]

Not nerf, but especially after the Midnight rework, I expected all Tanks to be pretty much the same level as Brew

[jagged pier]

So drop ls for tan then

[unkempt hazel]

yup

[lusty grotto]

that build i linked is the No TaN, no ED

[jagged pier]

No bs

[tribal wharf]

thats why

[jagged pier]

Someone complained it didnt have bs today or yesterdya nimchip

[lusty grotto]

yeah well

[lofty warren]

Here is your cursed build

[lusty grotto]

youre making sacrifices for the defensive talents unfortunately

[unkempt hazel]

big

[jagged pier]

U got to give something

[lusty grotto]

these are just the least impactful sacrifices

[jagged pier]

Was all i said

[lusty grotto]

ye

[tribal wharf]

NO

[lusty grotto]

good call yogi

[tribal wharf]

nononon, take hat one off

its dog shit

i tried it

[plush tendon]

this talent would be good if it made you a spellwarden

[sharp gale]

I don’t even know what talent this is

[plush tendon]

like the mobs in MT

[jagged pier]

Mark my words tho nim ppl will be saying throught he flames is good with 4% dr but apex bad at 5%

[coarse bay]

Yogi low key our warden

[tribal wharf]

we arent paladins

[plush tendon]

4>5

dummy

[tribal wharf]

we dont rely on luck

[jagged pier]

What yogi ranting about now?

[white stag]

Understood I saved it and I’ll try it out later today thank you!

[lusty grotto]

lmao i was thinking about that, and preparing a copy paste response of "yeah but one is for magic only, the other is for ALL damage"

[tribal wharf]

he took the 8% to 1/2 spell dmg 🙁

[lofty warren]

Paladin blocks against spells different from pwar why and how

[tribal wharf]

and im sad 🙁

[jagged pier]

I mean i can have both argueable

[lusty grotto]

true

[jagged pier]

But giving props to something thats 4 % dr which has been done in the past

[tribal wharf]

no eanting

i just know from first hand experience, you will have worse time with that one on

[lofty warren]

I drop tan for bsv. Change my mind

[tribal wharf]

why not both

and 4/4 phlanx

[jagged pier]

Thats fine

Tan is a flex point

[unkempt hazel]

who needs damage anyway

[jagged pier]

No stop from shout

[unkempt hazel]

[jagged pier]

No whirling blade

[tribal wharf]

you know, im going to let someone else handle this like jakey

[plush tendon]

not taking the strength one is

[jagged pier]

[unkempt hazel]

dps issue

quite honestly

[lofty warren]

Saw guy with these talents as mt

[jagged pier]

No vigor

https://tenor.com/view/monka-cat-scared-scared-cat-wide-eyes-gif-5319946494583553667

[unkempt hazel]

the ultimate tank build

[coarse bay]

If i dont want to play warrior, i just swap characters instead of making cursed builds

[white stag]

Maybe it was a low key and he just wanted to help with damage output?

[unkempt hazel]

u just dont see the vision

[tribal wharf]

this illegal

its time to stop

[coarse bay]

Lmao

[lofty warren]

Who needs shield block anyway?

[coarse bay]

Last stand but skipping all those goodies

[lusty grotto]

yeah well

what can you do

[plush tendon]

last stand just seems like a odd talent choice to me

[lusty grotto]

im sure it helps in the highest of keys in any way

[plush tendon]

prob true

[lofty warren]

This was his war talents

[lusty grotto]

but you drop other stuff for it

[plush tendon]

a extra 30% health

[unkempt hazel]

extra hp and an okay heal

[plush tendon]

Indom I kind of get; 10% stam plus some healing

[lusty grotto]

ok thats just cursed

what in the hell

[tribal wharf]

why

[lusty grotto]

lmaoooo

[tribal wharf]

why god no why

[lusty grotto]

no stance mastery either

[glacial ridge]

lol first thing I saw no AM

[tribal wharf]

why is this person like this

[lusty grotto]

SPEAR?!

[unkempt hazel]

stop making fun of the guy for feelycraft /s

[plush tendon]

people play with some cooked builds

[unkempt hazel]

he simply has the vision

[tribal wharf]

WHAT

WHAT IN THE

[coarse bay]

Surely the starter build blizz gives is better

[lusty grotto]

im liking yogi roasting the talents

[plush tendon]

ok, no spell reflect

[lusty grotto]

my new favorite thing

[plush tendon]

is straight trash

[unkempt hazel]

was he thane too

[tribal wharf]

no nonon n

[unkempt hazel]

lol

[tribal wharf]

no THUNDER CLAP

[coarse bay]

Ya yogi the talent police is such a good arc

[tribal wharf]

he dont have tc

[lusty grotto]

top tier arc

[lofty warren]

Yes he was mt too

[unkempt hazel]

he's too thicc for tc

he claps from other sources

[lusty grotto]