they never seem to drop
#protection
unique axle
inland garnet
if you were to craft a shield what embellishment would you use? devouring? spores is troll?
drowsy comet
Myth set piece - BiS for the rest of the season, so ofc you gonna pump this up
lean slate
any tips for pulling the entire tree room in AA?
naive ravine
any tips for pulling the entire tree room in AA?
For gathering or for living?
lean slate
living
naive ravine
Can recommend that
Its basically kiting at the right time to reset bleed
If I understand right
lean slate
Its basically kiting at the right time to reset bleed
ty
drowsy comet
both of you are idiots
No you
like bro, if you think you´re doing it better why not play Tank yourself instead of judging 
drowsy comet
You are warrior, you are idiot
I am brainless, but Im a idiot - not a warrior
no im a warrior but not an idiot
this way around
smh
drowsy comet
head empty, shield big
naive ravine
If I were to complain about every dps I beat as tank then I would be spending my whole life on Twitter
drowsy comet
If I were to complain about every dps I beat as tank then I would be spending my...
exactly
pastel geyser
i joined a dreamrift hc yesterday before reset and i was above half the dps
drowsy comet
they are the first ones who complain if the tank does a mistake, and also complain when they have to wait 20 mins for a key
stone tundra
Backseat driver
drowsy comet
Yea.. and huge cry babies
stone tundra
But also sometimes difficult to give advices to tank, because written sentences are prone to be interpreted as rude
Even my tank i brought from mop classic is very defensive if i try to give him hints, even in voice
drowsy comet
I take and appreciate tips, or that I can pull bigger, thats fine. But when nobody kicks shit and we all die, and I get flamed, thats not cool lol
tardy abyss
stone tundra
Ppl blaming tanks or heal for being oneshot is always funny
stone tundra
There are some oneshots here and there
tardy abyss
But not many
stone tundra
Yes, but enough to kill if no one kicks
tardy abyss
I dont think kicks have been as unimportant as now in a long time
stone tundra
Yeah the bolts dont need to be kicked that much, but there are some very dangerous casts
Books and elementals in academy
Pit some skeletons
tardy abyss
And it also helps a lot we can lock down mobs ourselves for an eternity
drowsy comet
the fire birds in Windrunners as example, close to the Emberwing boss, they can be pretty damn nasty. Healers die there a few times
stone tundra
Yeah need to be stopped
naive ravine
My cortisol spikes when I see someone be toxic while they dont do their part
Had a shaman healer complain about a kick going through, he had not a single kick at the end of the dungeon
stone tundra
"guys you need to kick" - looks at his interrupt count: 1
naive ravine
Yeah exactly
pastel geyser
Had a shaman healer complain about a kick going through, he had not a single kic...
didnt healers get kicks removed
or can shaman still do it?
stone tundra
I miss having a kick on my druid
Sometimes i can only watch the casts going through
fringe mural
would you guys take veteran tier piece in a slot i have already a veteran item in so i can get t4 bonus this week or pick hero pants which would be an upgrade from champ to hero
and get t4 next week
it's an alt
somber atlas
Set tier now would benefit most sinc eu can get catalyst charges
So basicly can get a hero panta and cata them
fringe mural
Set tier now would benefit most sinc eu can get catalyst charges
So basicly can...
so just pick the tier set, get pants somewhere else and make those tier
yeah that's what i thought
oh btw guys, for testing purposes i only killed the first two bosses of voidspire last week with that toon
and got trinket from first boss in the vault slot
woeful timber
Does anyone have experience with the Trinket "Tangle of vibrant vines"? This is the only Hero Trinket I have available. Unfortunately, I can't find any online reports about this Trinket.
I got it in a Delve.
drowsy comet
kinda interesting that nobody in the top 10 pwarr´s uses the puzzle box 
naive ravine
I mean if the top 10 was about doing the fastest keys then they would
drowsy comet
i mean technically they do, highest keys timed
most of them use Heart and a mix of the raid trinkets. #1 pwar uses Sunflare trinket which I kinda understand since it gives a bit of Crit and 1% for every percent of missing HP from the target
naive ravine
They need to run the build that lets them time the highest keys, thats a major diffrence
woeful timber
2second cast time could potentially lead to a difficult situation, especially with higher keys. Or not?
maiden quiver
It's just a super awkward trinket that 95% of the time isn't worth trying to play around it.
tardy abyss
kinda interesting that nobody in the top 10 pwarr´s uses the puzzle box <:monkah...
They just run the best trinket they can get hold of I think
arctic remnant
Can any1 can tell me is ''Into the Frey'' affected by haste soft cap?
jagged pier
nope because it gives u % not rating
arctic remnant
soft cap around 30%?
jagged pier
its 30% but we do not care about it
naive ravine
Its better to say soft cap is at a certain number then a %
arctic remnant
ait Got the heroic Eye of midnigth from weekly Q and with into the frey my Haste % goes to 35% so was wondering if is wasted
jagged pier
u have to be at 1188 haste rating unbuffed before u swap to ITF
arctic remnant
ok thanks! thats great to know
naive ravine
u have to be at 1188 haste rating unbuffed before u swap to ITF
Unless u are a gamer
What rly is the diffrence between reaching 1k and 1.188
jagged pier
loosing sb for a bit longer that u should have
fringe mural
What rly is the diffrence between reaching 1k and 1.188
You need to put in small sb breaks in certain situations
for example during not getting hit or while the pack is stunned etc
naive ravine
How much longer are we talking
Cuz im currently playing ITF with 1k haste and so far it doesnt seems to be that much worse
lofty warren
yes
fringe mural
k
quiet matrix
Where do you get this quest from
fringe mural
aethas
lofty warren
@undone beacon guy got neck with 2x sockets from it
fringe mural
under the canopy
also the ring can drop there
from l'ura
with pure haste and 2 sockets
at least that's what wowhead's loot table says
quiet matrix
Thanks boys
fringe mural
Where do you get this quest from
arctic remnant
at least that's what wowhead's loot table says
Just got it myself so it can come from that and fully maxed out at 276
fringe mural
Just got it myself so it can come from that and fully maxed out at 276
duuuude
grats
can you post the stats?
arctic remnant
Guildie got the Rare neck
fringe mural
a nvm we can compare in dungeon guide
craggy frost
Good Morning! What haste percentage should we shoot for before swapping HR to ITF?
craggy frost
ok, thank you!
drowsy comet
1180 exactly
how do you achieve this much tho
jagged pier
gear
drowsy comet
naive ravine
how do you achieve this much tho
tribal wharf
im not sure what ilvl you are but i am 265 and i have 9XX to 1080 haste
depends on gear cohices
drowsy comet
255 is mine
tribal wharf
you need to do a shield if you want haste on shield
rest is can be found easily
and even if crit mastery boots drops just take it to catalyst
most things that come out of catalyst have haste at end of it
i am not going turbo crazy over haste
i absolutely could and i would smash the hell out of the 1188 barrier
fringe mural
i'm at 260 and have 940 haste while missing trinket with haste, gloves and boots
tribal wharf
so, with goggles engineer
tribal wharf
4/5 of our set peices are haste
fringe mural
and you're pretty much done
drowsy comet
Raiding as a tank isnt fun man...jesus christ
tribal wharf
cuz gloves are not haste, but you could in theory craft goggles engi, and those are 1 stat only
and you can control that stat to make it haste or anyother secondary
fringe mural
but it's not as much haste as rings or amulet right?
because it still has str
which is better of course, but i wouldn't sweat over it too much
i think if you have haste on each gear piece except trinket you should be there in full heroic
almost at least
solid sun
I usually just stay HR
fringe mural
unless you have some crazy stuff like the ring etc
tribal wharf
same goes for wrist and boots craft, and it would give me +25 to +50 haste on bracers, and +40-50 haste on boots, then theres a super ring that has 2 sockets and it has like 230 haste or something
fringe mural
doesnt it say you go itf for raids anyways?
solid sun
For some fights
tribal wharf
has en effect but i dont care about the effect, even on mythic, would be nice sure, but i would want for haste and gem
fringe mural
same goes for wrist and boots craft, and it would give me +25 to +50 haste on b...
see above
i just posted it
it can be in the weekly quest chest
solid sun
This raid has some fights where a tank is out in left field
tribal wharf
so, i could be having like, 1500-1600 haste
solid sun
ITF loses value in those situations
tribal wharf
if i felt like it
fringe mural
ITF loses value in those situations
yeah gotta cuddle for it to shine
tribal wharf
it gave me the other ring
mastery first haste
(i tend to think like this often when it comes to gear, and will say haste versa gloves, when its 30 haste, 20 versa, i.e haste first cuz larger value)
tribal wharf
(i enchanted it badly because, its not really useful to me, and well, mastery)
tribal wharf
the one i chose is cheapo
till myth, or price drop
cuz its like 50 gold for this, and like 40 for the silver version of it
and like, the silver one of this givs i dunno i think its 20 or 22
gold of the improved version is like 2,000 - 6,000 gold at auctions and it gives 27
but yes, i try to keep up with having gear enchanted
solid sun
lol I currently have one piece of gear enchanted
One of my weapons
I considered getting an alt on profs but my friends told me the actual act of enchanting is also expensive
undone harbor
hi all, with Missive's on crafted gear I'm guessing Feverflare is the optimal one? Haste + mastery?
solid sun
Can sim
undone harbor
ahh yea ty
tribal wharf
i'd enchant hero and myth gear
god only knows how long till we can replace that
hero gear i mean
solid sun
Last time I looked a chest enchant was like 14k gold
I’d have to do like 14 gold world quests to save up that much
I wonder if I started putting points into alloys if I could sell those and make decent gold
tardy abyss
Barely, if at all
plush tendon
my toons stats are whack
966 haste, 897 crit, 194 mastery and 150 vers
though, with flask, I do get pretty damn close to 1188 haste
plush tendon
Last time I looked a chest enchant was like 14k gold
we found 3 mythic boes last night; they are going for like 5 mill a piece
lowkey, join a Mythic Belo trash farm
solid sun
Heck yeah
high lava
there isn't even one myth item on auction right now, are they already tradeable?
plush tendon
there isn't even one myth item on auction right now, are they already tradeable?
I hope so
otherwise I have no clue what we threw on the AH last night
jagged pier
thoses arent myth boes
high lava
hero on my tooltip
near garden
Srry
plush tendon
dooood you just scared him off
near garden
Misclick
plush tendon
near garden
❤️
pastel geyser
Enchants are expensive
are they now? outside of wordsouls chest they got pretty cheap lately
solid sun
🤷♂️
night heron
Hello, I've ran several sims on my character and I was surprised to see the Dragon Games Equiment trinket is as good as Gaze/Heart of Ancien Hunger/Plume in single-target.
However in the guides I've read it is classified as a C-tier trinket or even not listed at all. Is there a specific reason for that?
solid sun
I looked two days ago and yes. Maybe lower now
undone beacon
Hello, I've ran several sims on my character and I was surprised to see the Drag...
Games is sim bait. The trinket is really clunky and kinda buggy, half the time it doesn’t work and you can’t kick the balls at enemies
plush tendon
it simmed well in Dragonflight to
but that mini game is trash
honestly, id rather use puzzlebox
undone beacon
The sims assume you kick every ball perfectly every time
Which is easier said than done
Minigame trinkets tend to sim better than they perform
night heron
Oh I see, that makes sense! Thanks for the clarification, I'll wait for a more reliable trinket then.
undone beacon
plush tendon
as anyone noticed the Hpal on Mythic Paladins is throwing out more excorisms since reset?
plush tendon
yea, im just curious cause the fight cadance feels like it changed.... sometimes my SR is eating an exorcism cast instead of a SoTR one
so i gotta be uber carful
raw pike
what's the vibe like for colossus vs mountain thane in m+?
undone beacon
Performance wise they are about the same, Thane is easier to play and typically has a slight edge
solid sun
Vibes are always high when you’re a prot warrior
red tree
Thane you just run near packs hit thunderclap and keep truckin
Colossus you hit the big button
raw pike
I do like the big button
red tree
Me too, min max be damned
undone beacon
Colossus has less snap threat but if your dps aren’t braindead that’s fine. Just takes more work to gather
solid sun
And if they are braindead, they will be dead
plush tendon
I like both, but ideally Id like them to tuned for different situations
so we swap between them
raw pike
I just remember MT being the more "defensive" option because it has more threat generation, whether that's still true or not I'm not sure
uh, rage generation
the red bar of goodness
red tree
That’s pretty much true yes
cold pilot
You guys know how when you run into a delve, it's like a grey portal that pops up a little screen that lets you set the level? Like this:
I just noticed that THAT picture for Collegiate Calamity is just some random screenshot a dev took and pasted as the image for the delve. You can tell because THEIR FUCKING CURSOR IS IN THE SCREENSHOT
lol
jagged pier
yer old news
red tree
It’s ok, I didn’t know so I appreciate it
trim gulch
what's the consensus on the 1 apex point build? checking some RIO and people are not using this build anymore
i thought we sacrified too much for full apex points
vital panther
hey legends, just swithcing voer from BDK to Pwar. Have almost full hero track, but i havent sent any crafteds. should i sent crafted weap/shield first or jsut go with cloak/bracers?
plush tendon
hey legends, just swithcing voer from BDK to Pwar. Have almost full hero track, ...
if you dont have myth sword+shield, craft those slots
youll have your 4th craft by next week
lusty grotto
what's the consensus on the 1 apex point build? checking some RIO and people are...
we go 4/4, and we've always gone 4/4
trim gulch
we go 4/4, and we've always gone 4/4
interesting, i was under the impression you sacrifice a lot of points from the tree for going 4/4. i'll try it out
thanks!
tardy abyss
interesting, i was under the impression you sacrifice a lot of points from the t...
Not really, 80 -> 90 gave us exactly 4 points
So its more or less the same as in TWW
undone beacon
The points you “sacrifice” are lower value than the apex anyways
It’s pretty pointless to do 1/4 especially after they updated our apex
vital panther
if you dont have myth sword+shield, craft those slots
thanks mate
lusty grotto
interesting, i was under the impression you sacrifice a lot of points from the t...
you lose like 15k dps and 5% DR by not choosing to go 4/4
so obviously we have never recommended it
grim zinc
Any tips on improving my damage? New and been focusing mostly and tactics and staying alive.
undone beacon
Keep shield block up, hit SS every time you can, don’t cap rage
grim zinc
Okay that sounds good. Yeah it's a battle sometimes to do both haha. Rage cap or ragestarve.
lusty grotto
you want to do neither
undone beacon
Prot warrior is about balancing the rage machine. Capping and starving are both very bad
grim zinc
IP doesn't stack right?
lusty grotto
if you do both youre screwing yourself
tribal wharf
it does, but tracking ip is not important
undone beacon
It adds to itself with multiple casts but we also don’t track IP
grim zinc
Okok
lusty grotto
IP casts do stack up to its max, but we use it to burn rage
grim zinc
Yeah.
tribal wharf
dont over complicate things thinking about IP usage, you just simply use it to dump, to fuel the machine
lusty grotto
burning rage = good for AM and Outburst = more damage
grim zinc
I did the bind SS to my IP thing.
tribal wharf
you just always send it, even if you were at max stacks and value (not over shield block priority)
grim zinc
Yes sir!
lusty grotto
yea what yogi (deathray) said
grim zinc
I feel like sometimes it's just a lot of buttons I'm pressing haha.
jolly bough
Hello all. Got a mythic haste vers main hand in vault so im not crafting one now. What embellishment do i put on if not using hunt? I got crafted shield with embellish already btw.
grim zinc
I was so used to mashing thunderclap back in the day that it's hard not to do over SS.
lusty grotto
Hello all. Got a mythic haste vers main hand in vault so im not crafting one now...
arcanoweave
lavish oracle
I'm back again asking if anyone has tried cutting points in Phalanx in higher keys
jolly bough
10-4
lusty grotto
I'm back again asking if anyone has tried cutting points in Phalanx in higher ke...
and im saying again, we dont do that
4/4 only
lavish oracle
and im saying again, we dont do that
- you never said that
- It is definitely being done
tardy abyss
Not many do it tho
lusty grotto
like 10 lines up
tardy abyss
Because theres no reason to
undone beacon
It is not recommended to at all. You lose a ton of damage and DR to gain niche and mediocre survivability talents.
tardy abyss
R1 pwar hasnt done it in any key iirc
undone beacon
Stick to 4/4 apex for best results
lusty grotto
coarse bay
lavish oracle
When did we start taking sims seriously in tank discords?
lusty grotto
if anyone wants more "defensive" options, they can still keep 4/4 and go for them
tardy abyss
Always?
lusty grotto
When did we start taking sims seriously in tank discords?
since legion when discords were created
jagged pier
i mean if anyone wants more defensive they should b playing hr
most of the top ppl dont
lusty grotto
hmm i havent seen a lot of ITF tbh
undone beacon
Sims have always been important to tanks, unless you’re feelycrafter prime I suppose
lusty grotto
do you care about leech? do you care about threat?
tardy abyss
hmm i havent seen a lot of ITF tbh
Its kind of 50/50 unless more people started playing HR recently
lusty grotto
well... sims are good for those
lavish oracle
Sims are important if the metric you're looking at is damage in a vacuum
lavish oracle
Like if I have to cut interrupting shout to gain 5k dps, I'm never gaining the 5k dps
(In keys)
lusty grotto
youre never kicking in keys?
lavish oracle
?
lavish oracle
I am giving a hypothetical example
coarse bay
Important talents arent cut for damage. Sims decide what damage talents to take
jagged pier
lusty grotto
im not playing the hypothetical game
there's no need
if you want to go hyper defensive, you want to not pick the least impacting talent, is that not valid for you?
how do you decide which talent is more impactful?
lusty grotto
obvioulsy by simming
lusty grotto
what other metric can you take into consideration
there's no defensive sims
its either sims, or what pash said
feelycrafty garbage
lavish oracle
Sure buddy
coarse bay
For raw target dummy DPS, sure
If an ability performs better on a dummy, why wouldnt it generally be better in other situations as well?
undone beacon
I just don’t understand why people are so adamant about not taking apex
lusty grotto
if you do not want to take sims into consideration, then dont do it
jagged pier
because strimmers dont pash
jagged pier
thats literally why
jagged pier
which is fine if they want to play 1/4 they can play 1/4
tardy abyss
I remember something similar happening back in TWW S1
jagged pier
i still think for 99.9% of ppl just taking BSV is whats making them feely tankier because it is
tardy abyss
Because Kira played a diff build
lusty grotto
happens every season
jagged pier
LS and indom are doing very little
undone beacon
Last season it was consant arguments about shield spec
jagged pier
and for the amjority of ppl they will do less because they generate less rage so indom does less and use SW wrong
so getting a false postivie on LS
lusty grotto
tbf some fights didnt really need shield spec (hunters)
jagged pier
but BSV is actually sving them and making pulls smoother
but as they take all 3 at once
they eqaute it to the whole switch not just one
lusty grotto
other than that, it was silly
jagged pier
u dont need Shield spec in raid outside mythic tbh
lavish oracle
If an ability performs better on a dummy, why wouldnt it generally be better in ...
So here is an example I will give, its been a while since I played fury but there was a time you had to choose between Reckless Abandon and Anger Management, Reckless abandon was by all metrics the better talent, and in an organized or skilled group that held true but the second you pugged weekly 10s, Anger management became better
lusty grotto
yeah i agree, Jakey
undone beacon
BSV my beloved
lavish oracle
Because pulls lined up better with the 45s Anger management recklessness cooldown and tanks tended to pull erratically
tribal wharf
lavish oracle
Sims are useful but not all knowing
tribal wharf
not a key so it doesnt matter but
undone beacon
Nobody said sims are all knowing, but you literally have no other metric to base things off of unless you're swapping talents between runs of the same dungeon at the same level with the same people over and over
lusty grotto
apples to oranges
AM/RA to prot warrior
🤷♂️
we're not simming defensive options, we know which work and which dont
coarse bay
So here is an example I will give, its been a while since I played fury but ther...
I hope you understand what theyve been trying to explain how simming is used. They dont sim the best dmg and take it at any cost. People do think about the talents and kit as a whole
undone beacon
Wholesale dismissing sims because "I'm a tank" is shortsighted, but if you really want to drop 3 apex points and put them into whatever else... we don't pay your sub.
lusty grotto
hes refusing to see nuance when claiming simming has nuance
im just gonna slap the bait label on this one
and move on
lavish oracle
I'm just getting my season started and popped over to raider io to check what warriors were running and I'm like 4 for 4 on warriors dropping 3 apex points for tree talents
lusty grotto
right, its 5% dr at stake
upbeat plover
Sim enjoyers?
solid sun
There’s both defensive value and damage being thrown away
lavish oracle
And wanted to see what the discord's take was on it
solid sun
For no real reason except vibes
coarse bay
And you argued against the discord’s take
lavish oracle
But I see its non-consideration
crimson furnace
..how do we use the PLUME trinket??? whats the tech behind it???
lusty grotto
1/4 came straight from beta
lavish oracle
I'm arguing against the incredibly rigid way in which the take was expressed
fringe mural
Can you guys recommend a combat log addon?
lusty grotto
thats why they went that
lofty glen
where can i look up deplete rates from dungeons?
toxic pewter
many people going 1/4 still dont even understand they sshifted the 5% dr to the 4th point like they literally dont read the tooltips
undone beacon
It is a non-consideration indeed. The 1/4 apex talents build is a holdover from when the DR was tied to the first point of the apex and not the 4th point.
lethal lantern
Alright guys I'm gonna start tanking some M+ soon, are the Wowhead guides memes or good if my main goal is not die
coarse bay
I'm arguing against the incredibly rigid way in which the take was expressed
Simply because it’s very straight forward, 1/4 is a big loss and people taking it are stuck in the past, feelycrafting, and carrying by their gameplay and not talent choice
fringe mural
like i want to try out the rotation, log it and check it
undone beacon
Alright guys I'm gonna start tanking some M+ soon, are the Wowhead guides memes ...
Use Icyveins
coarse bay
Alright guys I'm gonna start tanking some M+ soon, are the Wowhead guides memes ...
Use icyveins
fringe mural
especially for rage management
lusty grotto
..how do we use the PLUME trinket??? whats the tech behind it???
theres no take, just convert it to whichever you need
undone beacon
..how do we use the PLUME trinket??? whats the tech behind it???
Wear it and be happy
coarse bay
Alright guys I'm gonna start tanking some M+ soon, are the Wowhead guides memes ...
Arent u a mage though
undone beacon
plush tendon
ewww mage
crimson furnace
ok, so we keep it on the crit then @lusty grotto
coarse bay
Mages smh
crimson furnace
right??
solid sun
lethal lantern
Arent u a mage though
I am, but I been a mage since Pandaria so I'm challenging myself with other classes
fiery spindle
like i want to try out the rotation, log it and check it
P sure the only way is to get the WCL app and start logging your runs
harsh trellis
I think the mage called us dumb
coarse bay
I am, but I been a mage since Pandaria so I'm challenging myself with other clas...
You chose correctly 
fiery spindle
Idk any addon that does logging for you
solid sun
@lavish oracle I don’t think anyone was trying to discourage questions. It’s just a pretty cut and dried situation
undone beacon
like i want to try out the rotation, log it and check it
lofty glen
where can i look up deplete rates from dungeons?
pls help :3
harsh trellis
pls help :3
WHat does this mean?
undone beacon
Idk any addon that does logging for you
Addons like Loggerhead can automatically start and stop logs
fiery spindle
Addons like Loggerhead can automatically start and stop logs
Oh fr?
lusty grotto
pls help :3
theres no where to track those, most people abandon
so you'd be playing with skewed data
coarse bay
Ya they do have the data but its very incomplete
lusty grotto
thats what i mean
abstract skiff
What is the best prot race for m+?
plush tendon
Dwarf
lusty grotto
dwarf
lethal lantern
You chose correctly <:okayge:917646812519739433>
yeah, I played Warrior BC to Cata so I'm going back to an old flame
sinful pivot
is it ever worth it to press execute? it looks like bait to me. I could be spending that global generating more rage instead
jagged pier
What is the best prot race for m+?
the 1 u likelookingat the most
harsh trellis
Guys, on the Halo 2 Map Midship, I am finding the shotgun more valuable over the plasma sword. Is this the right play?
coarse bay
yeah, I played Warrior BC to Cata so I'm going back to an old flame
welcome, mages are smelly
plush tendon
its really no contest... dwarf is the best race outright (this season)
jagged pier
or pangolin
coarse bay
No offense
toxic pewter
vulpera best race
lusty grotto
is it ever worth it to press execute? it looks like bait to me. I could be spend...
almost never, you only press it as thane and in pure st
shrewd moss
i played belf because I started playing a month ago and didn't know anything about the game
fiery spindle
If you don't play dwarf i'm putting you in the book of grudges
shrewd moss
wish i had chosen dwarf
undone beacon
Dracthyr epic
plush tendon
i played belf because I started playing a month ago and didn't know anything abo...
thats ok! you choose belf cause it look cool
I play human
shrewd moss
yes i prefer to play humanoids, too
harsh trellis
I play HUMAN
plush tendon
shrewd moss
tauren is for furry
solid sun
If I ever change from human I’ll be a dragon
fiery spindle
i played belf because I started playing a month ago and didn't know anything abo...
Nothing wrong with that at all, dwarf racials are crazy style but the vast majority of the time it isn't gonna matter
undone beacon
unless you're pushing bleeding edge keys, race doesnt matter
sinful pivot
almost never, you only press it as thane and in pure st
but that's assuming you're playing this, right? i'm wondering if the other choice is better, since these abilities already suck
lusty grotto
but that's assuming you're playing this, right? i'm wondering if the other choic...
i did say "as thane", so yes - there's no other choice, thats the better of the two
cold pilot
Man reading though this conversation, I've been playing warrior wrong
peak silo
New to prot and tanking, was wondering there is any keys where spell reflecting can be really utilized?
shrewd moss
i did wipe my m10 with the belf racial last night, so i got some utility out of it
undone beacon
We care about the rage gen
fiery spindle
i did wipe my m10 with the belf racial last night, so i got *some* utility out o...
Was it caverns
toxic pewter
thorims might does not suck lol
cold pilot
New to prot and tanking, was wondering there is any keys where spell reflecting ...
Anytime any magic damage is going out use it
shrewd moss
yes
fiery spindle
Nice
jagged pier
New to prot and tanking, was wondering there is any keys where spell reflecting ...
like all of them
undone beacon
New to prot and tanking, was wondering there is any keys where spell reflecting ...
Bosses with a cast give big value. Last of skyreach, 3rd/4th of Seat, etc
cold pilot
Spell reflect doesn't just reflect spells, it reduces magic damage taken
shrewd moss
there's an elite in PoS where spell reflect is super OP
undone beacon
Check maxroll.gg for a spell reflect list
harsh trellis
I do love the spell reflect noise
shrewd moss
peak silo
Bosses with a cast give big value. Last of skyreach, 3rd/4th of Seat, etc
Thank you this is what I was looking for!
small garden
nice
shrewd moss
oh shit the link i posted is the pinned one i'm a g
tardy abyss
bear and pwar
cold pilot
You should also macro your spell reflect to yell something so your party knows youre reflecting and not to kick
undone beacon
pwarr bear iirc?
undone beacon
toxic pewter
that the besst way to get ur group to kick
lusty grotto
You should also macro your spell reflect to yell something so your party knows y...
do not do this, they will just kick harder
shrewd moss
damn pwars win
fiery spindle
I was about to say pwarr and blood but I forgot they swapped the bdk for bear for more damage
undone beacon
Ask nicely for them to not kick the boss cast to make sure they kick every boss cast
lusty grotto
thats the better approach
plush tendon
Prot War is really good, but I think Blood was more useful on the last boss
at least for that P1
still needed Battle Shout though
undone beacon
Perhaps, but its not what cinched em the win
fiery spindle
Well the issue is thay bdk does literal piss baby damage I think
undone beacon
Big bear wins again, mods nerf them
fiery spindle
So they needed bear
plush tendon
at least when us normal people get there, it prob wont be as big of a deal
fiery spindle
Yeah
dusky canopy
@lusty grotto rank 1 heroic chimaeras
Noober mode activate
solid sun
It’s so funny that after all those nerfs bears still do big dam
lusty grotto
lol
fiery spindle
<@131897531251556352> rank 1 heroic chimaeras
*Noober mode activate* <:wicked:93...
Gz
fiery spindle
It’s so funny that after all those nerfs bears still do big dam
Crazy style
plush tendon
It’s so funny that after all those nerfs bears still do big dam
its all bear has
except for the raid buff
plush tendon
true, it can be enough
solid sun
Does the dam translate to m+
solid sun
Or do prot paladins own them
solid sun
APB does a lot of damage
fiery spindle
I still think, for non RWF guilds, BDK is the best raid tank
I'm bdk 3rd tank on dragons for the foreseeable future
fiery spindle
I'm the only DK main in my guild rn lol
plush tendon
the biggest issue for most tanks in M+ right now is living the higher keys
lots of nasty shit in these dungeons
toxic pewter
APB does a lot of damage
💪
undone beacon
Blizz: We're killing WAs because they force us to make fights too complicated and require specific classes and addons to solve them
Also Blizz: Heres mythic dragons where the ideal strat is to run 3 tanks and make two of them bdks haha anyways
coarse bay
Vdh raid tanking sounds eww
plush tendon
but having double blood is BiS
undone beacon
I am irrationally annoyed by this fight basically mandating BDKs in the comp
fiery spindle
We've been doing it with just me 3rd tanking on bdk and we've been doing okay so far
peak silo
Any advice on when I should use pain management? Should I just always keep it up because sometimes it really drains my rage so I can’t do other things
fiery spindle
n00b
coarse bay
I sense that im not sense
solid sun
Are sense and brew in the same guild
undone beacon
Any advice on when I should use pain management? Should I just always keep it up...
Use IP when your rage is above 70
coarse bay
I thought brew was in larias guild
undone beacon
We dont care about IP uptime, its a rage dump
harsh trellis
I'm bdk 3rd tank on dragons for the foreseeable future
is this a mythic strat?
solid sun
Are sense brew and larias in the same guild
undone beacon
I thought brew was in larias guild
he is
fiery spindle
is this a mythic strat?
You want at the bare minimum one bdk unless your raid is crazy style cracked cause they don't move to the center in mythic
solid sun
Oof
undone beacon
our brew tank is gearing his bdk rn
fiery spindle
So gorefiends is crazy style value
solid sun
Imagine seeing Tettles talk in guild chat, droning on and on about how boomkins need to be buffed
undone beacon
I'd ask one of our udks but they are pumpers 
plush tendon
Unholy is pretty worthless on dragons
fiery spindle
I'd ask one of our udks but they are pumpers <:sadgers:1022526082278248631>
That's me, i'm the uhdk pumper
coarse bay
We have 3 dps dks but we also had our tanks keep up a bdk from the start
tacit wedge
Guys, is there any Deep Wounds build for m+? I was reading the talents, and sounds like a "self heal with bleeds" would feel nice. The only way to apply deep wounds is through executes?
fiery spindle
It's fine tho, at least I don't have to actively tank the boss tbf
Broodtwister tho
undone beacon
Guys, is there any Deep Wounds build for m+? I was reading the talents, and soun...
There is not
fiery spindle
solid sun
Cam asked me to bdk
coarse bay
Yup
solid sun
But I didn’t want to show up their other BDK’s
coarse bay
Thats me
fiery spindle
Lmao
coarse bay
I did that
solid sun
See
harsh trellis
Guys, is there any Deep Wounds build for m+? I was reading the talents, and soun...
Are you looking at Raider IO at the top Prot war and trying their builds? Those groups are special groups.
plush tendon
this is why BDK is best raid tank
solid sun
No lies detected
solid sun
Maybe in mythic
coarse bay
3 of my characters i only did 1 vault slot in last week, including warrior, and i had 2 weeks in a row of good vault luck. Complete opposite of last season
solid sun
I haven’t had a bdk in my raid in a while
plush tendon
oh, you can do heroic with a sack of potatoes
fiery spindle
🥔
tacit wedge
Are you looking at Raider IO at the top Prot war and trying their builds? Those...
Nope, just reading the talents. Idk any good prot war youtubers, so usually I just go play whatever feels fun lol
coarse bay
🥔
jagged pier
if u want to self heal play a different tank
tacit wedge
I know pilka tho, hes a nice guy
solid sun
You know him?
harsh trellis
I pug a ton so I just stick mainly to the wowhead M+ build.
solid sun
Did you go to school with him?
undone beacon
I pug a ton so I just stick mainly to the wowhead M+ build.
Use icyveins not wowhead
smh
tacit wedge
Yes we were in China together 👲🏻
plush tendon
I like Sense, but I think hes just doing raid stuff right now
undone beacon
Wowhead isn’t being maintained very well
coarse bay
Man pash is consistently way faster than me and it makes me look even more dumb
fiery spindle
But I’m no M raider
Lowkey I get a bit jelly of people who don't m raid and just enjoy the game a lot outside of raid, I love wow but if i'm not mythic raiding I don't really want to play
undone beacon
Our wowhead guide writer retired and the new guy writes like 3 guides
And isn’t a pwarr
solid sun
Yes we were in China together 👲🏻
That’s cool dude
plush tendon
Lowkey I get a bit jelly of people who don't m raid and just enjoy the game a lo...
I did that last tier
fringe mural
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/help/start
thanks!
harsh trellis
Our wowhead guide writer retired and the new guy writes like 3 guides
I really thought nimchimp did everything
plush tendon
game is honestly a lot more fun when you Mythic raid (but clear quick enough)
harsh trellis
lol
undone beacon
I really thought nimchimp did everything
fiery spindle
game is honestly a lot more fun when you Mythic raid (but clear quick enough)
True lmao
lusty grotto
undone beacon
No the wowhead guide is written by Pumps, IV is written by our very own Mwahi
plush tendon
I dont even know who Pumps is
coarse bay
Nim get to guide writing
shrewd moss
Use icyveins not wowhead
this should be pinned tbh
coarse bay
Chop chop
coarse bay
I dont even know who Pumps is
Oce tank that prefers bear
solid sun
Lowkey I get a bit jelly of people who don't m raid and just enjoy the game a lo...
Well if it makes you feel any better I rarely get invited to H right now because I don’t have aotc and if I do get into one I’m surrounded by psyop gerbils sent to kill me
undone beacon
game is honestly a lot more fun when you Mythic raid (but clear quick enough)
Agreed. Too bad my guild is kinda butts but that’s okay cuz I’m vibin as shadow now
coarse bay
Raided in honestly until end of last tier
lusty grotto
if i did the guide i would burn myself out ngl
shrewd moss
coming to this channel and learning that Icy Veins was the way changed everything for me
undone beacon
Can’t be upset when I’m spamming shadow word madness and listening to lesbian pop
fiery spindle
I mean to be fair I legit thought Nim was some form of mod/TC guy until I checked their roles lmao
undone beacon
Nim is just a turbo booster so he has a fancy name and people respect him more for it
Literally pay to win
plush tendon
I made Ribeye steak last night during raid
so I had ribeye tacos while we wiped on Paladins
fiery spindle
Nim is just a turbo booster so he has a fancy name and people respect him more f...
Tbf I boost the DK server
plush tendon
fiery spindle
I have orange name over there
solid sun
Well
undone beacon
so I had ribeye tacos while we wiped on Paladins
That sounds wonderful
fiery spindle
🟠
patent osprey
👋
plush tendon
That sounds wonderful
fiery spindle
Well if it makes you feel any better I rarely get invited to H right now because...
This does sound not pog
coarse bay
I have orange name over there
I dont have any cool name colors
fiery spindle
Did we summon him
fiery spindle
I dont have any cool name colors
You're a cool name color in my heart big dog
undone beacon
apb has a custom role on this server and I’m jealous
patent osprey
Was walking my dog and thought, wonder how skyhold was doing
coarse bay
You're a cool name color in my heart big dog
undone beacon
@toxic pewter
solid sun
I often find myself walking my dogs wondering how Plka is doing
patent osprey
Unfortunately rsham tank healing isnt the same as rdruid 🙁
solid sun
So we are twins
fiery spindle
What's the lore behind apb since i'm a noobie to warrior discord in the grand scheme
lusty grotto
Unfortunately rsham tank healing isnt the same as rdruid 🙁
right but the point is you can have those talents while still going 4/4
fiery spindle
patent osprey
right but the point is you can have those talents while still going 4/4
U can, but this was the mix that was working for me ^.^
undone beacon
should i buy a myth cloth helm boe for the funnies
solid sun
What's the lore behind apb since i'm a noobie to warrior discord in the grand sc...
Lol I play every day for hours. I hit 3k and aotc and ce chimmy week 1 then go to PvP where I work to became the worlds highest rated vulpera arms warrior in solo shuffle
These days I spend my days world pvping if any of you have been in war mode in NA CHANCES are i have killed u
I am a very powerful individual
My /played is like 6 years or some shit
fiery spindle
should i buy a myth cloth helm boe for the funnies
Why
undone beacon
for the funnies
lusty grotto
U can, but this was the mix that was working for me ^.^
understood
solid sun
That blurb is APB
fiery spindle
Lol I play every day for hours. I hit 3k and aotc and ce chimmy week 1 then go t...
W
patent osprey
Also I was playing 4/4 last week 🙂 im just trying out 1/4 this week
undone beacon
Lol I play every day for hours. I hit 3k and aotc and ce chimmy week 1 then go t...
Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.
solid sun
Now you know the apb lore
lusty grotto
yeah we noticed last week
just so many people coming in here lately with 1/4 claims
fiery spindle
Now you know the apb lore
Lore achieved
solid sun
Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how m...
This one is so good
lusty grotto
because of archon and murloc
patent osprey
Remember when I was playing Venthyr Prot war in Shadowlands? Good times
plush tendon
Indom seems cool, last stand seems meh
plush tendon
and then one other point in bloodsurge also is meh to me
solid sun
Plka how do I become as good as you
coarse bay
should i buy a myth cloth helm boe for the funnies
I got a myth plate chest piece with leech in my raid earlier. No tert is 3m
All to the guild
undone beacon
cerulean tusk
I play 1/4 always has, you cant stop me!
dusky canopy
Remember when I was playing Venthyr Prot war in Shadowlands? Good times
That was sick
undone beacon
Our rule is that boes are yours to do with what you please
plush tendon
I got a myth plate chest piece with leech in my raid earlier. No tert is 3m
we just sold a myth belt for 3.8 mill
1/3 goes to GB
plush tendon
dooood, I piss ancient aftershock
undone beacon
you do what
plush tendon
coarse bay
1/3 goes to GB
We broke
fiery spindle
dooood, I piss ancient aftershock
You should get that checked out
undone beacon
toxic pewter
we just sold a myth belt for 3.8 mill
that wild
lusty grotto
good ole condemn
undone beacon
pwarr std arc
lusty grotto
undone beacon
piss ancient aftershock, condom, whats next
lusty grotto
you didnt see it
cerulean tusk
Condemn suck tho
Banner was the real deal
coarse bay
I saw
undone beacon
gib banner plz
coarse bay
The north remembers
lusty grotto
Condemn suck tho
Banner was the real deal
of course, im just replying to plka
plush tendon
they were all pretty cool
cerulean tusk
Condemn and spear was very meh
undone beacon
And only champs spear survived
lusty grotto
we didnt go banner until after s1 though
plush tendon
I liked Spear
undone beacon
cant wait for SL Remix when we get turbo cov abilities
plush tendon
was a nice one size fits all abilty
lusty grotto
so it was mostly a toss up between spear/condemn in that cursed season
mild vessel
Is there a max number for haste?
I dont know if i need more haste or not
undone beacon
Is there a max number for haste?
I dont know if i need more haste or not
No max number, 1188 is the breakpoint for swapping HR to ITF
plush tendon
so it was mostly a toss up between spear/condemn in that cursed season
S1 SL M+ was miserable
cerulean tusk
Is there a max number for haste?
I dont know if i need more haste or not
832% is the goal
plush tendon
S2 though..... that was nice
solid sun
I don’t think I’ve ever been comfortable enough to find a talent build that works for me (like 4/4) and then just decide the next week I’m goin to try a completely different build because I know I’m still going to own
lusty grotto
S1 SL M+ was miserable
undone beacon
I played MM in SL S1 and and it was great. Double Wild Spirits procs off of Serpentstalkers Trickery was so fun
plush tendon
I don’t think I’ve ever been comfortable enough to find a talent build that work...
mastery over the class>talent build
cerulean tusk
1/4 is better, allows me to take all the talents I want 
plush tendon
I saw Yoda post Crit Wings Prot Pal vids yesterday
after the last week of people yapping about needing Sent to live
coarse bay
I saw him play crit wings in like 18 pit, when i looked back next key he was sent
coarse bay
Thats what im thinking
plush tendon
and others its much higher
mild vessel
And to maximize damage do you suggest to increase crit or versatility?
plush tendon
And to maximize damage do you suggest to increase crit or versatility?
sim question
outer willow
Anyone here colorblind and having trouble with the first boss of WS?
lusty grotto
And to maximize damage do you suggest to increase crit or versatility?
you sim
plush tendon
but usually crit sims higher?
lusty grotto
crit does sim higher
plush tendon
unless you have really high crit and low vers
solid sun
mastery over the class>talent build
Yeah I’m just saying I’ve never been that confident to do that
lusty grotto
historically
plush tendon
I bet if I sim right now, with my stat distribution, Mastery is prob my best stat followed by vers
literally have almost 1000 of haste and crit
coarse bay
plush tendon
and under 200 for mastery and vers
undone beacon
i didnt play shadow priest in SL but looking at their cov stuff it seemed neat
timid wigeon
are they nerfing prot in 12.0.5 ?
undone beacon
are they nerfing prot in 12.0.5 ?
There are nerfs to thane and buffs to Col on the ptr currently
mild vessel
unless you have really high crit and low vers
I've 28% crit and 0% versa right now
shrewd moss
the nerf is just damage, right?
coarse bay
Those changes are aimed at fury and if left as is then it will be a nerf
shrewd moss
to TC?
lusty grotto
the nerf is just damage, right?
no
shrewd moss
oh no
lusty grotto
cdr during avatar is getting nerfed
plush tendon
reduces # of thunderclaps in Avatar
shrewd moss
:c
lusty grotto
tc damage is getting nerfed during avatar
plush tendon
plus, War does have a bunch of leach in our kit
so losing damage is also a healing nerf
lusty grotto
its a triple dip into avatar windows for thane
toxic pewter
we gonna be demolishing every 15-20 seconds
unreal sequoia
What's the rough value of leach? I picked up a ring with -24 haste +25 crit and +37 leach. It sims worse, but wanted to know if the leach is worth it
shrewd moss
wow
solid sun
But it isn’t all bad. We can swap to Col and potentially end up better off
plush tendon
What's the rough value of leach? I picked up a ring with -24 haste +25 crit and...
there is no value we put on tert
coarse bay
What's the rough value of leach? I picked up a ring with -24 haste +25 crit and...
Tert on gear isnt higher value than simming imo
lusty grotto
What's the rough value of leach? I picked up a ring with -24 haste +25 crit and...
non existent compared to ilvl, primary and secondaries
undone beacon
calling it
plush tendon
focus on the prim and secondary
tert only comes into play when comparing even I level items
toxic pewter
lets just hope the colossus buffs come through otherwise the entire spec is actually doomed
tardy abyss
lets just hope the colossus buffs come through otherwise the entire spec is actu...
The entire class lol
unreal sequoia
So its not worth it on the ring? because the -24 haste +25 crit is less dps?
tardy abyss
Fury is also in shambles
unreal sequoia
it sims worse
lusty grotto
leech is not a consideration
lusty grotto
so dont use the ring
coarse bay
The amount of tert that comes on gear and in enchants is pretty minimal and for tanks you pretty much wont notice
unreal sequoia
got it thanks
cerulean tusk
leech is not a consideration
Leech is good tho
cerulean tusk
cerulean tusk
I miss my speed gem
coarse bay
Speed gem with all gems including stam, speed enchants, dark iron dwarf
I was a zoomy
cerulean tusk
lethal lantern
I'm playing Orc
cerulean tusk
What a troll
lethal lantern
I want the biggest pauldrons ever conceived by the human mind
lethal lantern
I used to play Troll warrior but I haven't touched that character since Legion
coarse bay
Orc can be a vibe, i usually prefer more humanoid frames
lethal lantern
still hanging out with the artifact weapon
shrewd moss
Orc can be a vibe, i usually prefer more humanoid frames
same
coarse bay
Velf and belf are bis
shrewd moss
orc with or without bad posture
hazy juniper
any tips tricks for us prot warrs on 1st pull for algethars
lethal lantern
Brown orc with good posture
hazy juniper
15+
shrewd moss
any tips tricks for us prot warrs on 1st pull for algethars
lust
cerulean tusk
Velf and belf are bis
Hahhahahah hahahaha hahhhhah
No.
Nelf BiS
coarse bay
Hahhahahah hahahaha hahhhhah
No.
Nelf BiS
unfortunately true sometimes
compact nymph
What is best myth fully upgraded weapon or crafted myth weapon with embelishment?
lusty grotto
What is best myth fully upgraded weapon or crafted myth weapon with embelishment...
myth > crafted
cerulean tusk
Myth weapon
lusty grotto
but you get myth weapon on saladbar which is later into the raid
myth shield drops from 1st boss
compact nymph
Had a lucky vault with myth one-hand 😄 Thanks for the guidance
lusty grotto
nice
drowsy comet
Why is it that when the whole group dies because the healer ran into the beam in first boss in NPX, he dies, mage died, druid died, shaman died, I died. In a +8, 15 deaths and we overtimed it by 2 mins..I immidiately quit the party and what whisper do I receive? Bad tank, know your routes, r-word, hm hm yourself...Wtf even is this bruh. Raid tanking is toxic af already, M+ getting pretty much worse than that. Like genuinly this shit isnt fun anymore smh
dusky canopy
Why is it that when the whole group dies because the healer ran into the beam in first boss in NPX, he dies, mage died, druid died, shaman died, I died. In a +8, 15 deaths and we overtimed it by 2 mins..I immidiately quit the party and what whisper do I receive? Bad tank, know your routes, r-word, hm hm yourself...Wtf even is this bruh. Raid tanking is toxic af already, M+ getting pretty much worse than that. Like genuinly this shit isnt fun anymore smh
plush tendon
fits in armor just as, if not better sometimes, then human
cerulean tusk
Why is it that when the whole group dies because the healer ran into the beam in first boss in NPX, he dies, mage died, druid died, shaman died, I died. In a +8, 15 deaths and we overtimed it by 2 mins..I immidiately quit the party and what whisper do I receive? Bad tank, know your routes, r-word, hm hm yourself...Wtf even is this bruh. Raid tanking is toxic af already, M+ getting pretty much worse than that. Like genuinly this shit isnt fun anymore smh
lusty grotto
Why is it that when the whole group dies because the healer ran into the beam in first boss in NPX, he dies, mage died, druid died, shaman died, I died. In a +8, 15 deaths and we overtimed it by 2 mins..I immidiately quit the party and what whisper do I receive? Bad tank, know your routes, r-word, hm hm yourself...Wtf even is this bruh. Raid tanking is toxic af already, M+ getting pretty much worse than that. Like genuinly this shit isnt fun anymore smh
coarse bay
Why is it that when the whole group dies because the healer ran into the beam in first boss in NPX, he dies, mage died, druid died, shaman died, I died. In a +8, 15 deaths and we overtimed it by 2 mins..I immidiately quit the party and what whisper do I receive? Bad tank, know your routes, r-word, hm hm yourself...Wtf even is this bruh. Raid tanking is toxic af already, M+ getting pretty much worse than that. Like genuinly this shit isnt fun anymore smh
Is this a genuine thing or copy pasta
Cuz i swear you are always posting the most toxic experiences
And idk how u run into these
dusky canopy
I think gup may have been genuinely complaining 😂
lusty grotto
they arent toxic, theyre just very common
well they are toxic
but they are common
new player experience
cerulean tusk
I overpull, wipe the group and do random shiet. I still dont get someone go after me
At worst I get a "nice tank"
coarse bay
Wheres the graph that shows people in the middle skill ranges have the biggest ego and are the most toxic
dusky canopy
Bro I’m telling you guys!
The op strat is take first m+ week off work and race to as high of keys as you can possibly handle that way you always play with big brain and have no struggles farming gear
coarse bay
Bro I’m telling you guys!
The start is take first m+ week off work and race to as high of keys as you can possibly handle that way you always play with big brain and have no struggles farming gear
cerulean tusk
Bro I’m telling you guys!
The start is take first m+ week off work and race to as high of keys as you can possibly handle that way you always play with big brain and have no struggles farming gear
lusty grotto
Bro I’m telling you guys!
The op strat is take first m+ week off work and race to as high of keys as you can possibly handle that way you always play with big brain and have no struggles farming gear
solid sun
Gup has a guild
drowsy comet
I overpull, wipe the group and do random shiet. I still dont get someone go afte...
if I did that, that I overpull, know I may not be able to handle it, the second we wipe, I get told to most toxic shit ever. You learn new slurs in that game for some reason
solid sun
For some reason he isn’t using it
lusty grotto
lil gup just mentally ignore it
dusky canopy
I’m in a guild and I almost exclusively pug
coarse bay
Ya gup u should use a guild/friend/safe space for learning
dusky canopy
My schedule for free time sucks ass so I just have to go go go whenever I can log on
toxic pewter
who left a key
lusty grotto
lil gup
lusty grotto
only after it was completed
toxic pewter
oh lmao
cerulean tusk
plush tendon
it ok, I also leave keys when they are completed
coarse bay
I have never left a key, even if it goes sideways, if people want to abandon whatever but ill never leave first
lusty grotto
go next
no reason to think about it
or post about it
it wont come to bite you in the ass while youre sleeping
it means nothing
errant oriole
is it bad if i am running colossus without apex talents?!
errant oriole
really?
toxic pewter
do u consider losing 15% of ur dps bad
errant oriole
well ok I get it thanks 😄
drowsy comet
~~you left the key~~, so people are angry
I didnt left the key mid run, I completed it even, killed the boss, after we had to kill 1 more mob to 100% it. After I went to the chest, then I quit.
I tried my best in that key to not overpull or die, in fact I only died once, the rest died 14 times no idea how you manage that but sure go for it ig, it pisses me off mentally because of my existing anxiety problem, which I still have whenever I go into a key as a tank because of the routing and knowing that everynoe expects YOU to be the groupleader and handle things. I always used defensives, kept kicking, and even protected the healer before dying a third time.
lusty grotto
youre taking it too hard
it really doesnt matter
its an 8
just go next
sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you
blazing shuttle
The best I can say is.
Go next. Go outside. Get some fresh air. Relax. Look away for a bit.
You're not going to lose sleep over a fucked up key.
Hell, everyone fucks up.
loud rune
Hello friends
coarse bay
Gup i wish you were NA, you really just need some people to play with
lusty grotto
their opinions matter a whole 0 amount
blazing shuttle
Heck, I remember a video of Kiratank DYING on the first pull of priory cause he turned his back on mobs and got killed.
woven trellis
Yesterday I list a learning key, invited people, reiterated we were going to learn and that wipes are part of the expected experience.
Close to the end of the key, we only had a few min left and a player request abandon because it wasn't timeable anymore
I swear people have 0 self respect
woven trellis
He didn't leave, and I never knew who it was, but it was very rude
My gf is learning the game and those little things can really hurt your mood
drowsy comet
You should have seen the party messages mid run. And after the key was "done" getting whispered, is another level of disrespect, im sorry bruh but can anyone live with that and be happy
lusty grotto
i got that from the abandon vote
solid sun
The best way to play wow is with friends. I can’t imagine going it alone
lusty grotto
You should have seen the party messages mid run. And after the key was "done" ge...
yes
we can live with that
we just ignore it