protection

[ionic fern]

Jep,people are 3.7k +

[unreal hornet]

🫡 roger

[charred ivy]

In AA do u guys split 1st pull or take all?

[naive ravine]

Can I somewhere find the exact math behind the ITF breakpoint?

Found it

[serene wave]

How do people feel about only 1st level apex builds? I've been trying it out and I must say it does feel very comfy!

This kind of thing

[naive ravine]

Why would you give up a % dmg increase on your TC when playing mountain

Atleast take 3 points then?

Drop bloodborn and indomitable?

[serene wave]

I'm just trying different builds after getting r13 resis. I'll try your suggestion and see how it feels!

[ionic fern]

It's some "super defensive" build that some people run in high keys.

[sand condor]

Are any of the defensive trinkets good?

[naive ravine]

I like the trinket from pit

[sand condor]

The cheat death from magisters felt okay tbh

[naive ravine]

I like the pit trinket more since it also deals dmg

[tardy abyss]

Its just a super def build you kind of need it some dungeons at 17 or higher

[lament tinsel]

Hello guys, hope u're doing good.
I'm kinda new to war prot and i'm having a hard time maintaining my shieldblock without having the talent for it. I feel like i'm missing on a ton of dps with this talent since i'm loosing a ton of haste. Is it normal to have a 3 to 4 seconds downtime on the shiledblock ? I have about 1322 haste with r1 flask and the weapon oil.

[fringe mural]

how would you even get myth track bethilac trinket, isnt that impossible?

max you get is heroic from the tw raid quest

@coarse bay i did only first boss of voidspire now, will run chimaerus later and stop there until the reset

in theory that should only give me a shot at either tier or the loot of either of the two bosses

how many mythic dawncrests do you get from finishing a 9+?

[drowsy comet]

The Dreamrift
Chimaerus the Undreamt God Swarming Shade health reduced up to 35% in stage one in non-Mythic difficulties, for smaller raid sizes.
Haunting Essence health reduced up to 29% in stage one in non-Mythic difficulties, for smaller raid sizes.
Colossal Horror health reduced up to 10% in Stage One in non-Mythic difficulties, for smaller raid sizes

Bro its the easiest raidboss why nerf it more

[slim zodiac]

anyone having any issues as well with cooldown manager?

i get the timers up, but cant see which ability is being used, cant see icon or colors or anything

makes it insanely hard to tank without seeing ignore pain or shield block durations/values

[drowsy comet]

what addon?

if its Bettercooldownmanager, Ive heard that ppl are having issues

[slim zodiac]

ayije_CDM

which addons are yall using?

[slim zodiac]

i already disabled it, it was causing issues that is true

[drowsy comet]

Im using ACDM too yea, but Im using Kira´s profile, dont have any problems there

idk if Ayije himself has his own discord to ask for help with that kind of things tbh

[slim zodiac]

could you share so i can test?

im using atrocityUI profile

[drowsy comet]

well, the problem is its a paid UI so idk if im even allowed to share the settings, Kira did all the work for that so I cant really share anything

[jade wind]

Tell me which flask is best to drink on a warrior and why?

[slim zodiac]

ah i see

[pastel geyser]

haste so u have zoom zoom cooldowns and gcd

[drowsy comet]

Draught of Rampant Abandon good combat potion

Flask of the Blood Knights BIG haste

https://www.wowhead.com/item=241324/flask-of-the-blood-knights

https://www.wowhead.com/item=241292/draught-of-rampant-abandon

[pastel geyser]

rampant abandon? :D isnt that the thing that constantly silences u

[drowsy comet]

idk could be, but gives a huge chunk of primary stat, which is strength, only lasts for 30 sec, but in some encounters definetly useful. Tho I believe many people go for Light´s Potential instead, could be wrong

[fringe mural]

you need to run out of the zones it spawns under you

but light's potential is the "normal" way to go

[drowsy comet]

Yea Lights potential it seems

https://www.wowhead.com/item=241308/lights-potential

[naive ravine]

Isnt it just free main stat?

Doe we care about silence at all, even if we stand still

[pastel geyser]

is it silence or proper everything silence

id assume the latter

but if its first then yea prob not a big deal, just cant use shouts

[fringe mural]

everything is silenced

only thing i could do is Berserker Rage

wow

[pastel geyser]

yea thought so

so id rather not randomly die in a key cuz my potion silenced me from pressing smth important

[fringe mural]

you could use it on a fury and move out

but i'd never use this on a tank

[crude chasm]

if we are looking to play a bit more defensively is the play to take out of the apex for battle-scarred and indomitable? couldnt see a set build for this

[tardy abyss]

#protection message

[jade wind]

Am I right in thinking that the higher haste, the better. But if the key level is high, isn't a universal flask better?

[crude chasm]

Ill give it a try thank you

[lofty glen]

is 1st boss myth sjield good?

[drowsy comet]

you do want alot of haste yup. Universal flask, idk what flask you mean there

[jade wind]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=241320/flask-of-thalassian-resistance

[pastel geyser]

nah, haste is better

[drowsy comet]

id go for haste yea

[naive ravine]

Mastery flask it is then

[jade wind]

What does mastery actually do for a prot warrior? Is it even worth focusing on this stat?

[pastel geyser]

makes u block harder

and gives some attack power i think

[jade wind]

but it doesn't help with magic and bleeding, right?

[drowsy comet]

for bleed you typically have dwarf´s stoneform, if you are a dwarf

[pastel geyser]

Which isnt really an argument cuz its race specific

If u have bleed dungeons u could inv an evoker

[drowsy comet]

but do you always have an invoker in your group tho

[pastel geyser]

Well no but not everyone is a dwarf

But if you maker yoir groups you can always inv an evoker

[naive ravine]

You can also race change anytime

Things you can change > relying on finding a (pug with) evoker for your group

[fringe mural]

Well but you have to be alliance

not everyone wants to be on the unicorn side

[naive ravine]

Okay if u want to look cool go for it

If u want to survive u dont have to look cool

[fringe mural]

not exactly about looking cool, but there could be a horde race with an advantage like night elf and dwarf imo

it's kinda stupid for m+ now

[naive ravine]

I mean evrything has its upsides and downsides

[drowsy comet]

be dwarf - be cool

[pastel geyser]

if only dwarf wasnt so small

i like to be a tall zandalari chad

[fringe mural]

i don't have anything against dwarf optics

[fringe mural]

uhuh

if you make a lot of dungeons with bleed damage, maybe just give the horde some way to handle it, too

alliance shamans were introduced for balancing reasons too

rightfully so

but it's not really suprising monk and resto druid are the top tank/healer combo

the combo of forced smooth dmg intake and hots is just too good

and very easy to play compared to other ways of tanking and healing

[tardy abyss]

Not that many dungeons have bleeds

The ones in seat are avoidable

The bleeds in SR arent actually bleeds

Cant even think of any outside of AA this season

And even those can be dealt with by pulling well

[fringe mural]

my mistake then, it seemed like a much bigger issue in here

people were talking about bleed left and right

[tardy abyss]

Theres a ton of dots but not many are bleeds

[fringe mural]

we don't like dots

😄

[tardy abyss]

But we almost hate bleeds and magic dots equally much

[fringe mural]

we like big hits

in the face

also big reflectable spells

like pyroblast

love that spell

[tardy abyss]

Mindblast 😩

[pastel geyser]

lotsa dots yea

like everything that hits u leaves a dot..

[vale escarp]

Is there any spellreflect list for this season like we had for the other seasons?

[pastel geyser]

in pins

[mystic vale]

do i make a crafted weapon replacing a champ sword, or make crafted shield replacing hero shield

[quiet matrix]

Do you guys use Shield Wall as part of your general rotation or more of an "Oh shit" button?

Im new to WoW and tanking and I usually try to use Shield Wall on CD but on 14-15 keys sometimes I feel like Im out of Shield Wall when I need it most 😂

[pastel geyser]

well u should think ahead

if a pack is more dangerous

i usually shield wall if a pack im pulling is more dangerous or if i see im dropping below 50% hp

if u have BSV u can let that proc and use it as a defensive

[quiet matrix]

What is BSV ... Im bad with acronyms 🤣

But I think I get what you mean. When ita really big pull or when there are serious tank busters I can use it otherwise as an Oh shit button if my HP falls hard

Ill try it Thanks

[tardy abyss]

New to WoW and playing 14+? 👀

But yeah basically what Roohni said - can also keep Demo Shout in mind

[grim pilot]

No tank can have perma defensives up, trust your passive mitigation and know what packs do

[quiet matrix]

My RL friends have played it and convinced me to pick up tank for them while they pew pew so we pushed few 14s, but some dungeons are really hard for me to survive. Like AAs first pull

I have the feeling Im missing some fundamental knowledge thats outside of basic rotation.

Ill have to study each dungeon I guess and each pack.

[tardy abyss]

AA is tricky

You need to pull all 3 big plants at the same time, or at least do it as quickly as possible and then kite every now and then

That way you avoid getting the dot refreshed

But yeah watching gameplay of higher keys helps a lot

[grim pilot]

Just focus down one lasher, you shouldn’t die during bl and it should die before bl ends

2 lashers is way easier than 3

Bleed doesn’t go past 2 stacks with 2, with 3 you get 5 stacks

[naive ravine]

Is there a world where the cdr for SW on ss is worth more then the extra charge + 60 sec cd reduction?

[tardy abyss]

In low keys maybe

[naive ravine]

[quiet matrix]

Thanks for the help guys

[hollow patio]

5 stacks with 3? I thought it just doesn't reset ever with 3 lashers alive unless you kite.

[pastel geyser]

its battle scarred veteran, our cheat death talent basically

[quiet matrix]

Ah yeah. The angry orc pic 😂 Gotcha. Thank you so much

[tribal wharf]

i'll add to this a bit

if possible, watch your class and spec and hero talents, at the key lvl you are intending to do it at

cuz a mage, will have a very different pov of how the key goes

there will be alot of overlap from the mage that you can get lots of information, but you can gain so much more, watching a tank run it, if you are a tank

[naive ravine]

Is there a world where colossus gets buffed on prot?

[solid sun]

It’s already slated for a buff in the .5 patch

Coupled with a nerf to Thane

[tribal wharf]

not for a few weewks

[tardy abyss]

Colossus will go hard

[naive ravine]

I already like colossus but MT is just so superior

How long does it usually take for the .5 patch to arrive?

[ionic fern]

Hopefully forever.

[pastel geyser]

usually like a month or two

or should be that much

[naive ravine]

Why that?

[fringe mural]

Because he likes lightning

And thunder

[pastel geyser]

cuz we getting axed and monk is getting tickled

[naive ravine]

Understandable that the S+ tier spec gets tickeled while we get gutted in our best tree just to make the other tree less bad but still worse

[solid sun]

Idk that we’re getting axed

[pastel geyser]

its a big nerf

[naive ravine]

I think there was a nerf to MT that reduced the dmg of TC by 40%?

And the cd also?

[pastel geyser]

even if it wont be that much numerically, it will for sure be a big nerf to the feel of the spec

Storm Surge causes Avatar to increase the damage of Thunder Clap by 10% (was 50%) and reduce its cooldown by 25% (was 50%).

like.. lol

40% dmg nerf is insane

surely we must be doing 2x the dmg of all other tanks to warrant such nerfs right? oh right brew is doing like 20k more dps than us on avg

[solid sun]

The reason I’m not sure it’s an axing is

It’s usually stated that currently you can play either thane or colossus because they’re pretty close

And colossus is getting buffed

So the strength of pwar overall really shouldn’t change much, if at all I don’t think

Unless you stick to playing thane and don’t switch

[naive ravine]

Colossus compared to MT doesnt nearly feel as smooth

[pastel geyser]

except colossus is barely getting buffed

and honestly feels weird af to play compared to thane

[desert brook]

Did my first 15 last night. Windrunner is kinda ass Ngl haha a lot of random damage seems to be going out. Was a lot of fun though.

[solid sun]

Colossus was meta before and it was fine

Lots of folks even enjoyed it

[naive ravine]

What does colossus have that u dont have in MT?

[pastel geyser]

idk man i just want to clap hard

[naive ravine]

Its smoother better rage gen and has basically the same dmg reduction

[pastel geyser]

kinda sad both fury/prot is getting thane gutted

[pastel geyser]

an extra button

[solid sun]

Colossus pushes revenge a lot more, has demolish itself, different playstyle

[naive ravine]

Idk why does colossus only get 10% dr on a cd compared to high uptime 8% dr with 5% perme phys dr

[naive ravine]

Yeah and that does go against what prot war wants to do, having limited gcds

[pastel geyser]

im pretty sure colossus is meant to be a more offensive spec

[solid sun]

What do you mean it goes against what pwar wants to do

[coarse bay]

Colossus already is very close and could be played as a comfort pick

[naive ravine]

It doesnt synergize with the apex talents, its a button that we need to press thats not SS or TC so the loop of AM is way slower

[coarse bay]

Im also a thane enjoyer because i like tb, but there’s also a lot of people that enjoy colossus

[naive ravine]

Clossus is cool but feels like shit compared to MT

[coarse bay]

It will still use the apex talents, you need to build rage still

[solid sun]

You still press SS and TC

[naive ravine]

Yeah but MT benefits from pressing them more then colossus does

[coarse bay]

And guess what, even with what youre saying colossus is still very close to mt rn

[naive ravine]

Just dps wise or defensive wise aswell?

[coarse bay]

Bith

[solid sun]

Both

[coarse bay]

There isnt really a defensive difference between them

[solid sun]

You could make the argument this is potentially the best of both worlds

[pastel geyser]

i heard for colossus u basically never press execute

[solid sun]

Half the patch is one hero tree, other half is the other hero tree

Now everyone gets a turn with their preferred hero tree and the overall strength of the spec stays close

[naive ravine]

Is there a proof in form of statistics? Like a sim of some kind?

[coarse bay]

Thats a problem with current tuning. You pretty much never do on thane rn either

[pastel geyser]

idk i wish we would have a patch where both trees are equally powerful and its just preference

[coarse bay]

Literally right now

They are both

Equally powerful

[pastel geyser]

sure but i mean a full patch

a full season*

[coarse bay]

Theres still time before that patch

[naive ravine]

Is there smth to back up your claim other then your personal opinion?

[coarse bay]

Theyve reverted things announced for the .5 already and made changes. It isnt set in stone

[coarse bay]

What to them being equal?

[naive ravine]

Yeah

[coarse bay]

Yes but i dont have it

[pastel geyser]

source: trust me bro

[coarse bay]

Ask the people that deal with tc

I dont tc

[naive ravine]

Its not that I dont belive u but im a statistics nerd and like numbers 🤓

[coarse bay]

The apls are probably public

U can pull the sims

[naive ravine]

Hm where would be the best place to look for such things?

[coarse bay]

If you like the stats and numbers theyre all there

Put colossus talents on your character and run a sim

Simplest

[solid sun]

The thing is

[pastel geyser]

sure sim, but how many people are actually playing colossus?

not a lot id imagine

[coarse bay]

Idk look it up

[solid sun]

The regulars here have said it all season long. They’re close enough if you like Col you can just play it and it’s fine

[coarse bay]

Thane is easier and very slightly ahead so obv more people will play it

[solid sun]

Why does it matter how many people are playing it

[coarse bay]

Im not some source of all info youre asking for just to back up your argument of not liking colossus. This information can all be found if you want

Its fair to not enjoy colossus

I doubt thane will end up unplayable

[solid sun]

Tbh if you really like lightning, I recommend not playing Warrior at all

Give ele a try

Plenty of lightning

[naive ravine]

I do like colossus way more then MT, but comparing both playstyle wise I came to think that MT has to be ahead of Colossus

[coarse bay]

I still played thane for half my keys in s2 when colossus was meta. You will most likely not have a problem

[naive ravine]

Idk how much tho

[coarse bay]

Playstyle feelings doesnt = actual performance

[pastel geyser]

caster 🤮

[coarse bay]

Colossus is generally harder to play, that’s why thane is recommended even if theyre equal

[pastel geyser]

feel is #1 most important thing in a spec ofc :P

[naive ravine]

I mean it does equal it to some degree, it is defenetly not a statistics based argument. But thinking about prot war in the past most of the times the faster playstyle was the bettee one

[coarse bay]

True, so keep playing thane if you prefer it

[naive ravine]

Where u get to use more AM and stuff

[coarse bay]

S2 tww was colossus?

[pastel geyser]

ill prob just stop playing for the season if those nerfs hit live

[naive ravine]

Im talking a bit more in the past

[pastel geyser]

i usually do around that time anyway

[naive ravine]

Like addons

[coarse bay]

Further back in the past would be less relevant than 2 seasons ago

[naive ravine]

That is indeed true

[solid sun]

It just kinda sounds like you’re trying to justify a reason to be upset

[coarse bay]

Ya you can not enjoy colossus but no need to use that as some sort of fact for colossus being worse

[pastel geyser]

im trying to identify the gigantic brain at blizz who is advocating these changes

[jagged pier]

the warrior dev

[solid sun]

We still have a lot of time between now and when the .5 patch hits, and we don’t know exactly what it’s going to look like. Pwar was strong and good and the spec worked well last time we ran colossus

[pastel geyser]

the warrior dev is probably a monkey in a suit

[coarse bay]

Ive heard there isnt even really class devs anymore but idk how true that is

[pastel geyser]

looking at the past 3 years of warrior balancing

[coarse bay]

Idk s2 and s3 of tww werent bad

[dusky canopy]

Idk being able to demolish more often sounds like a win to me

[solid sun]

I actually think fury’s future is more bleak than prot’s

Slayer is beans

[dusky canopy]

You’re in luck because both hero talents will suck for fury in .5 so you can just pick your flavor

[solid sun]

I’ll either be on a different class or on arms

[coarse bay]

Arms is cool

[solid sun]

If I’m gonna lag behind on the meters I’m gonna do it while having fun

[pastel geyser]

s3 was fine ig until they forced fury to play slayer, and s2 i havent played much but didnt feel that good. s1.. lol we dont talk about that xd

• the beta for midnight i remember how awful it was for warrior and how many changes we went through

[coarse bay]

Idk about fury/arms personally

[pastel geyser]

ye im talking in general here not just prot

[coarse bay]

Idk there’s specs that have large enough gaps between hero talents that one is usually unplayable and warrior hasnt been as bad for prot

Not liking colossus is fair, i dont think thats too uncommon of an opinion

[naive ravine]

I never said it was a fact, there is a major diffrence of personal bias, thats why I like sims.

[coarse bay]

But that doesnt make colossus bad

[clear silo]

Guys, I have played arms warrior for so long previously. But I had a few years off from wow and have came back and I’m enjoying prot. I’ve been playing it in PVP as I honestly like to be a nuisance an wind up the team haha. But, I want to try some pve, and do some tanking for a change. Does anyone have any good links to current boss fights mechanics and any guides I can read or watch through please. There is so many, recommendations are always helpful! Thanks in advance! 🙏🏻

[coarse bay]

General prot guide you should use icyveins

[naive ravine]

Im always open to changing my opinion based on the facts

[coarse bay]

Im not trying to change your opinion, everyone can have their own

I was just saying that colossus is currently very close to thane

[solid sun]

Yeh liking a spec or hero tree is just personal taste

[coarse bay]

Like i said i am also a thane enjoyer

I will still play thane unless the divide is too large

[solid sun]

If you’re interested in the difference in output you can sim your character using both thane and colossus builds

Like Cam said

Also keep in mind thane isn’t being nerfed literally 40%

[naive ravine]

I would be more interested in the defensive diffrence, idk if u can sim those

[solid sun]

There’s never been a difference in survivability

[coarse bay]

^

[lofty warren]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-lura-nerfed-for-race-to-world-first-381114

First these ppl complain it is too easy and then complain too hard. Is there any path to satisfy them?

[coarse bay]

I think they were worried it was gonna be another 400 pulls

And im not sure rwf asked for a nerf or anything, blizzard has control of when the race ends

[jagged pier]

classic pepega bait

links something thats days old

[coarse bay]

I didnt click on it or read it lmao

[naive ravine]

If I was to try and confirm that there isnt a defensive diffrence the best would probably be looking at logs and comparing them (A lot of logs)

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-penguins-of-madagascar-skipper-bait-clickbait-gif-7373851025472833661

[coarse bay]

You can ask somebody who knows more about that stuff and does more tc side

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bait-nsb14-or-afLoVMHg3QoYPZHCGF

[coarse bay]

When nim is around you can ask him he should know i think

[naive ravine]

Nim the 🐐

[jagged pier]

[coarse bay]

Maybe jakey can explain the things

[jagged pier]

explain what?

[naive ravine]

Im all ears

[tribal wharf]

i still cant even hardly believe this shit lmao, i saw it in like sky reach one other time i think too.

[coarse bay]

They want to know survivability differences and why/how between colossus and thane

[tribal wharf]

volume mix is a bit ~~low ~~high, im trolling but i just sort of threw that clip together

[jagged pier]

well colossus is weakier because u just have less rage gen in general, they used to be about the same cause u had IO as colo but that doesnt exsist anymore

[naive ravine]

Or a place where I can find those awnsers, cuz I rly dont know where to look

[jagged pier]

but colossus will do more damage

and revenge is higher as colossus in prio

and u got to pay more attention to rage usage

like alot more

but if played correctly u will still be fine

[coarse bay]

Is colossus now weaker in survivability?

[tribal wharf]

nooo

just, you have to be not dumb to play it

and panic send rage away

that you will need

thane is more rage so more sb and more ip

but you can still easily live as colo

[coarse bay]

Well if colossus is softer now then i am wrong i hadnt heard

[jagged pier]

of course it is, it just has less rage

dont listen to these ppl that say cause of the bleed healing build its good, if u do that u literally loose value of demolish itself

cause u have to hold it etc

and u miss out on the 10% haste buff u get when u press demolish talent

[tribal wharf]

im far too stupid to play it properly in keys, but i could always try

like 10s, and time them

and not have this channel flame me when i post the video or log of it

cuz i might be getting hard carried by 3k healer

[naive ravine]

The diffrence back when AM was double the value it now is,would have been way bigger

[jagged pier]

nah cause u had IO as colossus

which gave u SW when u avatar'd

which made it about the same

u didnt run that as thane

[woven perch]

needs to be a PSA for undergeared protwarrs to not use ITF lol

[tribal wharf]

if that was still in the game i would be running that

[jagged pier]

thats standard practice and im pretty sure mentioned in our faws and icy veins guide

[woven perch]

im sure it is but i doubt the majority of people dabbling with pwarr look at where it is

[jade crane]

what are my fellow M+ players aiming for with trinkets? I have heart and puzzlebox on hero. Puzzlebox feels really bad to press during pull but other M+ on use trinkets don't look very good. I feel like Averzian and Voracious will be pug-able in the future but my guild doesn't do mythic raids

[jagged pier]

cherm

[tribal wharf]

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/1765954180163766825/D2461C5067FA605B6044C5936E4676480490D7A2/

[jagged pier]

dreamrift trinkey

[tribal wharf]

200% health 200% armor

[jagged pier]

will be puggable most likely

[tribal wharf]

yes please

200% BLUE armor, so 50% DR not 33% dr

[woven perch]

im settling on gaze + darkmoon dominion cause i hate puzzlebox (as tank)

[jade crane]

Alnseer would be the dream, I wish it wasnt bis for so many specs as competition will be through the roof but I'll definitely try for it at some point

[tribal wharf]

i like io, shame it shared node with something else just as good, same case as ITF/HR now

[jagged pier]

u killed any bosses on hc?

[woven perch]

vault and pray to RNGesus you get it from the weekly this week

[tribal wharf]

NOT SHOULDERS

i have mythic shoulders already

[jade crane]

My guild is 6/9 HC right now so heroic gaze is on the table but eventual myth track items would be ideal

[tribal wharf]

literally anything else in the entire friggin game

[jagged pier]

trinkets are a different story tbh

[woven perch]

hero gaze is better than all myth for us

[jagged pier]

armour and wep jewelry sure

[tribal wharf]

i got 1 mythic slot in my vault, 1 chance to hit it big

[jade crane]

ooooh, thats very helpful to know

[tribal wharf]

mythic nexus set rings would be incredible for what i want

[woven perch]

but then no l'ura ring

[tribal wharf]

no, i get to pew pew things with deathray laser ring thingy

[woven perch]

and aint the damage from that set pretty mediocre

[jagged pier]

the shields not going to do anything

at least the damage proc does something

[woven perch]

dont you pick them only if the stats are good and not really for the proc?

[plush tendon]

lura ring has double sockie though

[woven perch]

lura has 2 sockets and TONS of haste

[tribal wharf]

https://knowdirectionpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/gadget-07-perks.jpg not the exact frame i was looking for but this will do

[jagged pier]

if the stats on the rings are good for u then theres no reason not to get it

they are good for us

[tribal wharf]

i want mechanized humanoid

so i can make a inspector gadget character

[woven perch]

and lura ring is also goated beyond belief for us

[plush tendon]

most people want it

[tribal wharf]

gnome is too short for me to pull it off right

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/moneyball-50feet-of-crap-rich-teams-poor-teams-there-theres-us-gif-15572320

except this is tanks on the loot prio

[coarse bay]

Definitely a lot of pieces are in high demand by lots

Everything is contested

[tribal wharf]

pepega posting "we suck again" > me posting "im a warrior, okay"

[plush tendon]

Prot Warrior is so good

started Paladin prog last night

absolutely trivialize the tank mechanic on it with a Prot War

[tribal wharf]

i dunno why i would care about some lura ring

[plush tendon]

honestly, dont even know when my guild will try and kill Lura

[woven perch]

doesn't care about 200+ haste and 2 sockets :kek:

[plush tendon]

it doesnt feel worth to use Mythic raid time to prog that fight

[jagged pier]

its about to get shot in the face

[plush tendon]

even the heroic version?

[undone beacon]

its heavy mastery not heavy haste

[jagged pier]

i hope not, but probably

[plush tendon]

we decided to do prog on Paladins>heroic Lura

[undone beacon]

oh unless you mean ring

[plush tendon]

and probably will do Alleria prog>heroic lura

maybe we try on a off/optional night?

[tribal wharf]

okay, so its an interesting ring

[coarse bay]

It feels weird having heroic content come out when we have mythic prog

[tribal wharf]

i will say that

[jagged pier]

hc really isnt that hard, we didnt kill it but we got pretty far in not much time

[tribal wharf]

i dont really care about the ring too much

[woven perch]

yes ring

lol wowhead showing only 1 socket

[undone beacon]

thought we were talking about the neck

[plush tendon]

prob not; idk, its certainly weird to be making those decisions

[jagged pier]

i mean she doesnt really drop anything

[plush tendon]

but we got super good prog on Paladins for our first night that it should die tonight after reclear

[jagged pier]

and mythic does

so

[plush tendon]

AoTC would be nice

[jagged pier]

might as well do mythic

[plush tendon]

and I feel like ive spent the last week studying that fight watching liquid

[jagged pier]

yer but ull get that anyway

[plush tendon]

do we think Alleria or Bealoran is harder now?

I know they turbo nerfed the bird

[jagged pier]

mythic?

[plush tendon]

yea

[jagged pier]

no idea

[tribal wharf]

doesnt say how long the buff will last

[jagged pier]

probably the same

[plush tendon]

heroic bird is a joek

[woven perch]

didnt belo get nerf batted

[tribal wharf]

but it says for 15k dmg which is puny absorb

every 30 seconds

[plush tendon]

I didnt watch any of the prog on Belo

[naive ravine]

Btw what is IO

[woven perch]

you aint takin it for the absorb

[tribal wharf]

and then you get some avoidance about 100

[plush tendon]

so I have no clue what happens in that fight

[naive ravine]

I wasnt playing at that time

[plush tendon]

other then color change and eggs

[tribal wharf]

120 avoid

seems like loaded do you take it or not

i dont particulalry like that item a whole lot

[undone beacon]

our plan is to do hero DR/VS/March on night 1 and see how far we get into luura, then jump into mythic again for the other nights

[woven perch]

i love it, gimme more haste

[undone beacon]

i am very against wasting time on heroic luura when theres mythic bosses to kill lol

[naive ravine]

Oh I see imovable object

[plush tendon]

im with you

[tribal wharf]

i'll take my this instead

deals damge

[plush tendon]

if we get a good reclear tonight, we can be on Alleria/Belo (dont know which will be next) late tonight

and will have two days to prog her

[drowsy comet]

idk why but somehow I got more FPS with ElvUI, than without. Tho I tweaked quite alot of things, funny idk lol

[woven perch]

pure haste gem

[tribal wharf]

the thing i want is the plume

[drowsy comet]

what else you want in there tho

[tardy abyss]

Haste Crit?

[drowsy comet]

wait this exists? dual stat gem?

[tribal wharf]

i mean what are you gunna do here, go engi bracers and boots for pure haste as well?

[drowsy comet]

have I been living under a rock bruh

[tribal wharf]

whats the end goal of it

[lusty grotto]

you have

[tardy abyss]

You must have been for like 5 years or so

[tribal wharf]

2000 haste, 28 mastery, 47 crit and 13 versa?

so you hit like noodle lol

[woven perch]

yep, dual stat gems have been better than pure stat (except primary stat) since what legion?

[lusty grotto]

DF

[woven perch]

i thought that stat diff started sooner

[drowsy comet]

dam

[lusty grotto]

its possible

let me check

[drowsy comet]

ay you dont talk, you go back and play some bingo or whatever you old people do in their free time

[woven perch]

i feel like i havent socketed pure non-primary stats since legion idk, maybe misremembering

[lusty grotto]

idk i was using pure stats in SL, BFA

according to R.io

let me check my mage tower video for Legion

[toxic pewter]

lol

[tribal wharf]

i think i had some belt with a socket drop out of magisters terrrace and i gave it to dk cuz it was bad stats for me, cant remember if it was hero or not

i tend to be bad with that and give gear away

must not have been hero, or he must have had blue/veteran/champ one on

[undone beacon]

Unrelated but i swear i got into a row last night doing M+ with the guild because they didnt believe me when i said that Garfrost used to forge weapons n shit

[drowsy comet]

am I wrong tho

[undone beacon]

BUT I WAS RIGHT

[lusty grotto]

nah dual stats were DF

for gems

[tribal wharf]

Tiny creatures, under feet, you bring garfrost something gooood to eaatttt.

garfrost tired of puny mortals

NOWW your bonessss will FREEZE

[woven perch]

isnt his boss arena just a giant forging ground

[undone beacon]

IT IS

but people were like noooo the boss was always like this

[woven perch]

and the lines that you have to LoS are forges

lol

[undone beacon]

yeah

At 66% and 33% hp he used to use a forge to make a weapon and amp his damage

and the room also had a bunch of little shitters hanging out you could fight with the boss

[drowsy comet]

ah crap

whoopsie

[plush tendon]

guess well have to wait and year to play WoTLK classic to find out

[woven perch]

man not to date myself but i remember wiping to heroic garfrost trying to pug pit because moving was hard

[tribal wharf]

nothing super has changed for pit of saron

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[tribal wharf]

if i had not played since wrath of the lich king and i ran this place say 10 times then, i would think it is practically the same dungeon with a couple of tiny changes

[woven perch]

krik and ik and dk whats his face are pretty diff

[undone beacon]

they redid all the bosses

[plush tendon]

im a little upset Quel Denar is not in the loot pool for Pit

[tribal wharf]

yes but no

[woven perch]

garfrost is the only one i'd say isnt too off from the original

[tribal wharf]

garfrost is effectively the same

its mostly final they changed

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[undone beacon]

they removed his ability to forge weapons hes a fundamentally different boss now sorry

[woven perch]

the tnak mechanic is the biggest "new thing" to that fight, and the puddles

[solid sun]

Wrath of the lich king was approximately 1000 years ago. I have no idea what any of the bosses used to do

[lusty grotto]

it has some graphics update due to the lines but thats about it

[undone beacon]

What kind of forgemaster boss doesnt forge weapons mid fight

[tribal wharf]

they all take place in the same places with the same mechanics and voice lines as wotlk

[lusty grotto]

yup

power overwhelming

[undone beacon]

Also why is there a trope of big dopey forgemaster giants that forge weapons in combat

[tribal wharf]

ick and crick still casts deathbolts, and hold still while i blow them all up after chasing

[undone beacon]

with stupid names and voice lines

[tribal wharf]

garfrost still throws rocks you blow up and los

less trash on ramp

is the big one

[lusty grotto]

i like this remake, not as much as i like grim batol but

[solid sun]

Garfrost drops a weapon that’s two tonnes

[lusty grotto]

its a good remake

kept the spirit of the OG

[solid sun]

So if you use that weapon you are super strong

[woven perch]

💪

[solid sun]

I think that’s pretty cool

[tribal wharf]

mog it to the rediculous 2h from 11.2/3

the giga mace

extra fat

[solid sun]

It’s also funny because the weapon is like

Four jaw bones

Some heavy ass jaw bones

[tribal wharf]

why the hell didnt they put in final bosses weapons

he has an axe

2h anda 1h sword

[solid sun]

I tell you what is crazy about that dungeon

It’s a quarry and we do zero mining. What a miss. Reminds me of how lumber is handled for housing

Am I right yogi

[lusty grotto]

you son of a bitch

[woven perch]

god giving me PTSD not getting Jawbone during naxx and instead having to use the maexxna agi polearm

[tribal wharf]

well, yes, but like,

what if

[solid sun]

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/discord-ragequit

[tribal wharf]

if you 1 chest it there is chance for 1 basic ore node

and for 2 chest there is chance for 2

and for 3 chest there is 2 with 1 is light ore

THEN you get to mine and herb it

[woven perch]

HoI spotted

[undone beacon]

Throngus moment

[tribal wharf]

those games look like shit i cant lie lol

[woven perch]

i always called him Thongus

[tribal wharf]

what the hell is even t hat

[undone beacon]

Thats not his name

[tribal wharf]

is that temu battlefield

[lusty grotto]

idk man its just the gif that pops up when you type "close discord"

[tribal wharf]

csgo cod wannabe shit

[woven perch]

i know, just developed a hatred for him due to early cata dungeons and pugs

[tribal wharf]

i dont like this game im lookin at lol, the insurgency one

well, its not terrible, but id rather play something more name brand and trusted

[woven perch]

trusting AAA right now

[tribal wharf]

i am definitely not willing to give that inurgency a try

if i get it for free, i will play the fuck out of it but, that wont happen

[drowsy comet]

ah nvm completely useless

[tribal wharf]

hearts of iron? what the hell is that too

risk? the borad game?

whoever made that gif has terrible taste in video games

[lusty grotto]

youre just yapping on things you dont know, you barely play shit older than 2004

youre not the authority on video games

far from it

[cerulean tusk]

You pointing fingers at others for yapping, yaprat?

[lusty grotto]

stuck in the past

no

for yapping on things they dont know, finish the sentence cat

[cerulean tusk]

Yap yap goes the rat

[tribal wharf]

i like new games just as much as i like old games but i have much less patience for newer game

[coarse bay]

[coarse bay]

What newer games have you played

I havent played any

[tribal wharf]

how many gamer score do you have on xbox i wonder nim

mine is 50k

[undone beacon]

i got house flipper on steam for free and now im playing house flipper and its super chill

[coarse bay]

House flipper looks good

[undone beacon]

it was free to get over the weekend so i grabbed it

[undone beacon]

might grab the dlc when it goes on sale

its chill

[coarse bay]

I dont have patience for older games

[drowsy comet]

i have like 25 bucks on steam since months and never did anything with it cuz I barely play games on steam

[tribal wharf]

well and thats part of it for me, im so old that something on xbox 360 still feels new

[undone beacon]

my issue is a lot of the older games i want to play require like extensive emulation or virtual machine use to run properly and meh

too much work for an hour of nostalgia

[fringe mural]

I'll probably get lord of hatred just in hope of seeing tyrael return

[coarse bay]

I had like 3-4k on steam because i sold one of my csgo knives and i spent it all

[undone beacon]

thats sick

[fringe mural]

and wont play it again after the campaign

[drowsy comet]

just get emulators

[fringe mural]

Csgo weapon skin trading, what a pro

[undone beacon]

thats a lot of work and shit to install on my computer for an hours worth of nostalgia gaming

[tribal wharf]

LOL no, they arent hard to emulate theres 2 ways to do it, 1 is to do it on real hardware with a multicart

[coarse bay]

I just bought skins i wasnt a trader

[tribal wharf]

and then the other option is get a mister

[coarse bay]

But prices went up and i wasnt playing that game

[tribal wharf]

and a crt tv

[fringe mural]

i still have two nice mtg cards

[tribal wharf]

dont play it on modern tvs unless you have a retrotink, not worth it

[lusty grotto]

i have never had an xbox

[drowsy comet]

then dont complain

[lusty grotto]

playstation only

and nintendo

[fringe mural]

Signed gaea's cradle @tribal wharf

[undone beacon]

its my god given right to complain

[fringe mural]

want one?

[drowsy comet]

true

but stop complaining

[tribal wharf]

lol i quit mtg long ago

[lusty grotto]

fuck microsoft

[coarse bay]

I agree with pash’s complaints

[lusty grotto]

on consoles

[coarse bay]

And vote my complaint

[fringe mural]

Me too, but i still have my cards

[tribal wharf]

if its a real one you can sell it

[fringe mural]

of course, no arena shit

real paper cards

[drowsy comet]

Yea

[tribal wharf]

gaea cradle goes for something like 2500$ on ebay :S

i would take a look what you have just in case

[fringe mural]

nice

[undone beacon]

i havent played or bought mtg cards in a few years now but i kinda keep up with new non-UB sets

[fringe mural]

i have two signed by zug

[undone beacon]

looking if theres new cards for my decks so i can add them to a list to buy one day

[lusty grotto]

ahem

[fringe mural]

lol

[lusty grotto]

noobs

[fringe mural]

when was the last time you played?

[lusty grotto]

a bit

🤷‍♂️

[fringe mural]

come on lets compare e-peens more

I bugtested abaddon with icefrog

yo

[lusty grotto]

so?

[coarse bay]

This isnt comparing epeens

This is comparing age

[solid sun]

I don’t wanna talk about how much money I spent on Dota 2

[lusty grotto]

do you have that $300 pudge hook?

[fringe mural]

yeah you're right

[drowsy comet]

ay thats a full fuel, nice

[fringe mural]

no pudge's hook was ugly back then

[lusty grotto]

thats not an excuse

[solid sun]

I went to TI3 in Seattle with my friends

That was pretty fun

[fringe mural]

Where did you get it?

[lusty grotto]

dope

cant you read

[solid sun]

Seattle a cool city

[lusty grotto]

on the 2012 summer stash

[daring marlin]

ew dota talk

[fringe mural]

oh it was a giveaway

alright

[daring marlin]

Nimchip caused this

[lusty grotto]

gtfo leaguer

[drowsy comet]

good luck selling that thing tho, or have it in your inventory for another decade

[coarse bay]

I started highschool in 2012

[daring marlin]

disgusting

[solid sun]

That pudge hook is old enough to be a teenager

[lusty grotto]

i've never planned to

im not hurting for cash

[drowsy comet]

league is better than dota tho, atleast when it comes to gameplay and stuff, both is toxic af tho

[fringe mural]

he's rich, people donate to him for answering prot questions

[solid sun]

I would like 1 cash please

[fringe mural]

on his patreon

[lusty grotto]

fuck no it aint

[drowsy comet]

fuck yea it is

[solid sun]

Tbh what I really want is a breakfast taco

[lusty grotto]

fuck no it aint

[drowsy comet]

fuck yea it is

[lusty grotto]

fuck no it aint, you zoomer go back to sucking your thumb

[fringe mural]

league isnt better no, i played dota as a wc3 mod and league since beta

[undone beacon]

deadlock is better than both

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

no dota = no league

[drowsy comet]

Valorant is also better than CS2, there i said it, CS2 gameplay is lame af tbh

[lusty grotto]

oh that one i dont care about

[coarse bay]

I mean cs2 is bad

[drowsy comet]

mhm go back with me, and change your diapers old man

[coarse bay]

But csgo was banger

[lusty grotto]

but i did win tournaments in CS pre steam

[fringe mural]

i never played valorant once

[lusty grotto]

1.3 ftw

[pastel geyser]

Nowadays it is

[solid sun]

Potato, egg, cheese. Pico de gayo. Cup of coffee. Maybe a side of sausage links

[pastel geyser]

Dota became boomer russian game

[lusty grotto]

no

[fringe mural]

what i disliked about dota was the scrolling

[naive ravine]

I mean comparing dota and league is a problem in it self, the only thing they have in common is beeing a moba

[fringe mural]

Being killed from
Another screen

[lusty grotto]

agreed

[solid sun]

I could feast rn

[lusty grotto]

but also league fucking blows

[tribal wharf]

there was a whole lot of weirdos on counter strike is what i remember

[drowsy comet]

I played it for over 2 years, it became so toxic you dont even want to have fun tbh. Just look at the Dev team, and what the game has turned into. A full disaster

[fringe mural]

the main difference being the possibility to deny

[naive ravine]

I think both games have some cool stuff that I would like the other to have

[solid sun]

I played Dota just yesterday. The major drawback for league is that it didn’t have me playing it

[fringe mural]

which is a huge difference

[solid sun]

I won too btw

Shadow shaman fucks

[drowsy comet]

they still exist, being gambling addicts

[solid sun]

He can have the big turbo ward and the mass wards simultaneously now

[daring marlin]

dota worse

[tribal wharf]

i remember it was constant slurs

[drowsy comet]

unless you are fast and know how to aim, both CS2 and Valorant are pretty unforgiving. You get zoomed in seconds

[coarse bay]

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, moba talk and flexing old things

[solid sun]

We should all play Heroes of Newerth

[tribal wharf]

like, really really bad mic chat lol

[drowsy comet]

russians cant even play today, because in Russia there is no internet rn, imagine a CS2 without russians for a day :o

[naive ravine]

I mean is there rly anything to discuss about prot

[solid sun]

Russia doesn’t have internet?

[fringe mural]

cs without cyka blyat?

[solid sun]

What happened to Russia’s internet?

[naive ravine]

Ppl figure stuff out so quick compared to the past

[fringe mural]

No they're becoming north korea 2

[drowsy comet]

yea

[fringe mural]

this i not a joke btw

[lusty grotto]

league is for giga weebs

[drowsy comet]

Yea they dont, there was like a "little" disturbance

[fringe mural]

They're cutting off mobile internet in russia big time

[drowsy comet]

says the one with the pink name

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V7xofNrWWA

[lusty grotto]

whats wrong with a pink name

you mad cause youre a giga weeb

[tribal wharf]

this is still the game i hope they remake tottally like this

[daring marlin]

45mins for vault right

[drowsy comet]

looks girly, be man and have a brown rusty name like us

[valid sleet]

Class discords are useless these days

[coarse bay]

[daring marlin]

LMFAO

[fringe mural]

Doesnt he have a rainbow name?

[coarse bay]

They definitely serve a good purpose

[fringe mural]

Rainbow with a hue of pink

[naive ravine]

How can I change the color of my name here?

[lusty grotto]

careful you guys are showing your red pilling

[daring marlin]

It's gradient you savages

[coarse bay]

Its cool is what it is

[solid sun]

Listen

As a girl dad I can tell you

Pink owns

[naive ravine]

So 1900 to think pink is a girls only color

[solid sun]

I have a lot of experience with pink and it really does shine

[daring marlin]

I rock pink idgaf

[solid sun]

I even have a pink tie for when it’s time to dress up

[fringe mural]

what i dont like about pink shirts is you see every stain on it

[daring marlin]

don't be a slob

[solid sun]

My daughter has really increased the amount of pastel colors I wear

[undone beacon]

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated

[fringe mural]

well i cook a lot

So it happens

[solid sun]

I have this awesome pastel green t shirt

[fringe mural]

pastel doesnt really suit me

[solid sun]

It looks like one of those green m&m’s from the Easter Spring pack

It’s sick af

[fringe mural]

i like crayon colors

BLUE and RED and GREEN

[naive ravine]

Dont leave your house, dont have to wear any color

[lusty grotto]

imagine thinking colors define you as a person

[naive ravine]

🧠

[coarse bay]

I had a maroon suit made, its kinda pink

Pink rocks

[lusty grotto]

low self esteem issue

pink rocks

[fringe mural]

They underline your eyebrows

[naive ravine]

Every color rocks

[solid sun]

Let’s wear some pink tomorrow and take pics to show off our sweet pink gear

[undone beacon]

colors do define me, what color eyeshadow i use makes a big difference for my vibe

[coarse bay]

Real

[lusty grotto]

[fringe mural]

my pink shirt is hanging just in front of me

[lusty grotto]

wait a minute

jk pash you good

[undone beacon]

[solid sun]

Pash does my eyeshadow for me because I’m not confident I won’t get it in my eyeballs

[coarse bay]

Oh ya i have pink golf stuff, we did a tournament for breast cancer awareness and all wore full pink

[solid sun]

Can you imagine eyeliner

One wrong move

Eyeball is toast

[fringe mural]

That's mine btw

[undone beacon]

Eyeliner is scary to learn how to do tbh

[coarse bay]

Is that from kpop demon hunters

[undone beacon]

but once you do its chill af

[coarse bay]

My little soda pop

[fringe mural]

yes

Yes it is

[undone beacon]

obamna.... SODAAAAAA

[coarse bay]

Wait actually

Omg

Hell ya

[fringe mural]

My 8 year old daughter watched it like 2 times a day

[coarse bay]

Good movie

[daring marlin]

I did that here already

[solid sun]

If I put on one of the girl kpop demon hunter songs in the truck my daughter dances and sings and is super excited

[fringe mural]

and i am a huge soda pop fan ngl

[coarse bay]

All bangers

[solid sun]

But if I put on the soda pop song from the movie she tells me I can’t listen to it

[coarse bay]

Soda pop is a bop

[solid sun]

Because they are the bad guys

[daring marlin]

LOL

[fringe mural]

lol

[solid sun]

And I’m not allowed to be a bad guy

[undone beacon]

i still havent seen kpop demon hunters

[daring marlin]

BASED DAUGHTER

[fringe mural]

duuuude

you gotta

it's decent, though the ending is a bit whack

but the music is nice

golden won an oscar

[coarse bay]

Ya music slaps

[solid sun]

The only thing I wasn’t a fan of was the popcorn coming out of homegirl’s eyeballs

It bothered me a little

I don’t like eyeball stuff

[ornate palm]

PSA: if you want me to pull it all for 1st pull in AA, then don’t start throwing out heals .5 seconds into the gather. Is that a crazy ask?

[fringe mural]

but honestly, i'm wearing that shirt everytime it's clean again

Back to back

[coarse bay]

While its common that a healer needs to be cautious of aggro, you should still be generating threat during gather

[fringe mural]

i like it

full beard and kpop demon hunters shirt, best combo

[lusty grotto]

just clap the pack

[coarse bay]

No reason to not send a global per pack during any gather

[fringe mural]

more dps always helps

[ornate palm]

100% agree. The problem I seem to be dealing with is they’re too spread out at the starts.

[tribal wharf]

to a point, like speed in racing

still can hit red line and engine break apart

[fringe mural]

of course it doesnt solve all the problems

but it makes a difference between 1 or 2 casts coming through

or the amount of stuff you have to kick/kite/stun

if adds just die

[lusty grotto]

so wait

pull one pack, wait, clap

pull another pack, wait, clap

[tribal wharf]

you wanna go fast, you gotta be fast

[lusty grotto]

at least wait until they are all within tclap range

[fringe mural]

do you guys use shockwave to move from pack to pack? like wave the first pack and then charge to the next so you are free for a few?

[lusty grotto]

no

you want them coming to you

[tribal wharf]

hell, i would not even be mad if i get myth shoulders again, but they have like speed or whatever

[ornate palm]

That’s how I’m gonna do it from now on, at least in pugs. Don’t know why they expect it to go like it does in kiratank videos.

[tribal wharf]

indestructible, how about that, that sounds great

[fringe mural]

so you pull with wrecking throw or behind columns?

casters i mean

[severe star]

indestrucible shield

[lusty grotto]

you didnt say casters, you just said shockwave, finish your sentences

[fringe mural]

yeah i just assumed there were a few casters in most packs

[lusty grotto]

why are you even shockwaving casters on a gather

[tribal wharf]

how about embellishment this item has greatly reduced chance to take durability, only for shield and weapon

[lusty grotto]

just use pummel

javelineer and/or LoS

[ornate palm]

That seems to be the point it goes bananas. Nobody waits for them to get to me and clap them all.

[tribal wharf]

not embellishment, whateveer you call those effects that dont use embellishment

[fringe mural]

and shockwave unkickable stuff

[lusty grotto]

if this is your first time doing AA, welcome to AA

groups that dont hold until the gather is done are just not meant to time the key

[fringe mural]

but aint shockwave a huge risk when getting hit by everyone at once so you try to stagger the enemies afterwards?

[lusty grotto]

but a clap on the mobs is usually more than enough

[solid sun]

I know some will disagree with me but I just wouldn’t pull it all until it was necessary to time it

[ornate palm]

It’s so frustrating sometimes. Because it’s just out of my hands at a certain point.

[lusty grotto]

no, this aint vanilla

[tribal wharf]

or, if you have avatar and shield block, blocking enemy has chance to make shield indestructible short duration

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️ just go next

you get insta invites, they dont

[naive ravine]

Wtf did I just read

Indestructible shield

[lusty grotto]

the lose so much fucking dps by pumping on an incomplete gather

[tribal wharf]

i wish they would lol

happens with warrior and shields, and rogues with weapons

[naive ravine]

Tanking a pull on a 10 with a broken shield thanks to BSV

[tribal wharf]

best i can do is put all smithing knowledge into armor points

[ornate palm]

Clap is enough. If I hit something, I’ve got aggro. But if they don’t hold and now there are 10 mobs going in 3 different directions, it’s a tough hill to climb.

[tribal wharf]

takes 3-6 months but i will be able to repair any armor i have for completely free by end of it

[naive ravine]

I mean rend dmg is there aswell

[coarse bay]

Also aoe taunt if it gets out if hand

Dont need to hold it

[fringe mural]

so you pick a spot where to gather, gather them all there, and have dps zerg them down

i never really played higher keys tbh, highest i did was a +12 in legion i think

there i would mostly only start to tank and go to the next pack, and it would die while i was collecting the next

[ornate palm]

I’ll send everything. But I’ve noticed that the few times it went great, I didn’t have to send everything. If I’m using shout and charge and leaping everywhere to get it, shits already borked.

[naive ravine]

I like AoE taunt

Its cool

[ornate palm]

It’s cool. 60% of the time it works, every time kind of deal.

[solid sun]

Are you trying to do too much

[coarse bay]

Ya i mean if youre doing a vault key you never know who youre getting, and with practice youll learn to adjust to different people. Just get your rhythm for the gather being thorough with threat and IF things get out of hand u aoe taunt and continue the gather

With practice youll just move through hiccups and not think about it

Worst thing u can do is blame other people

When the key is in your control

[solid sun]

I recommend playing healer

[coarse bay]

Improving what you can control, which is yourself, is all you can do

[solid sun]

You gain their perspective

[coarse bay]

And dont let it get to you

[solid sun]

That helps you tank better

Dps does too imo

One reason cam is so much better than me is because he also heals at a high level

[tribal wharf]

i played enough dps as rogue

[solid sun]

I just tank and dps

[tribal wharf]

to understand all i need to know

[solid sun]

So I’m less than

[ornate palm]

I know you’re right. I just evaluate my own play. Even when it’s clear somebody else messed up I’ll still think about what I could have done to maybe have put them in a better position.

[coarse bay]

Oh and to clarify, these problems arent only low keys, heathens are at all key levels

[fringe mural]

What's aoe taunt, disrupting shout?

[coarse bay]

Ya

I think

[undone beacon]

Challenging/Disrupting Shout

[coarse bay]

Ya but also dont blame yourself, its not about blame or fault but improvement

[upbeat plover]

Disrupting doesn't taunt them does it? Or does it now?

[undone beacon]

It does

Disrupting replaces Challenging and adds the interrupt portion

[upbeat plover]

Oh, it replaces it...

[solid sun]

Switch to monk and forget everything about warrior

[undone beacon]

Yeah it replaces challenging and lowers the CD iirc

[solid sun]

Wild

[upbeat plover]

I never really used disrupting when I was warrior

I was bad and proud of it

[undone beacon]

Still are

[ornate palm]

Taunts and silences if you talent into it. It’s fantastic.

[ornate palm]

I do blame myself when it’s my fault, but also improve from it.

[solid sun]

Sometimes I just gotta blame myself so I can feel alive

[upbeat plover]

ragey

[ornate palm]

I’m imagine healers get the same treatment. One group you are the worst human on the planet. Very next key you are hoisted up on their shoulders and carried around like a hero.

But most of the time nobody says anything.

[drowsy comet]

https://x.com/netflix/status/2041516344445743164?s=20 Yoooo no way :O

Netflix (@netflix)

THE ONE PIECE is coming. A new anime from WIT Studio.

X · Apr 7, 2026, 2:00 PM

[toxic pewter]

wat dat

[lusty grotto]

weeb shit

[coarse bay]

I dont do what i preach, i blame myself heavily but i hold myself to a certain level and know my mistakes when i make them

[drowsy comet]

new one piece series lol

[toxic pewter]

doesnt it already exist

[drowsy comet]

no like a new anime series

there even comes a lego one piece lmao

https://x.com/onepiecenetflix/status/2041501245634990319?s=20

ONE PIECE(ワンピース) Netflix (@onepiecenetflix)

We want all the pieces! 🏴‍☠️ This’ll be one for the books!

X · Apr 7, 2026, 1:00 PM

i know this might sound really lame but, Rick n Morty also gets its 9th season https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2041525882448183520?s=20

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

First trailer for ‘RICK & MORTY’ Season 9.

Releasing May 24 on Adult Swim.

X · Apr 7, 2026, 2:37 PM

enough news, back to pwarr chat

[solid sun]

I can't believe there are nine seasons of that show

[undone beacon]

fricking gorty season 900

[coarse bay]

What is

This weeb stuff

In this world of warcraft class discord

For the warrior community

Of the protection variety

[solid sun]

Especially the rick and morty one

[coarse bay]

[solid sun]

It just screams "I watch this because I think I'm very smart"

And we're heckin' warriors who don't even read

[drowsy comet]

stop being philosophic cam wth

[coarse bay]

Am i a rock, or is the rock me

[lusty grotto]

philosophic?

i dont think you understand what that word means

[drowsy comet]

ofc you show up now, aristoteles

[solid sun]

I dread getting philosophic later on today

When I phil my gas tank

[solid sun]

kill me

[toxic pewter]

is solarflare prism any good

[tribal wharf]

what

its up already?

[undone beacon]

dude huge prism

but also huge shield

[jagged pier]

Isnt hc plume better tho?

[toxic pewter]

yeah damn

i dont think ima take the shield

still goin for myth first boss rofl

[lusty grotto]

yea