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opal ledge
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i got skyreach >:D

sweet egret
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defensive stance does not help with holding aggro or taking aggro?

tardy abyss
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Magic dot is a pain in the arse

celest notch
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d stance is purely a DR

opal ledge
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we need gladiator stance back

oak ivy
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i love this silly spec i take less damage than some dps in raid at times

lusty grotto
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tank spec does

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thats it

sweet egret
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defensive stance is not necessary for doing m+ in the first place

lusty grotto
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thats not what the bug is

celest notch
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Ironically, you technically generate less threat in defensive stance, due to dealing less damage

lusty grotto
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you cannot get healed when the stances bug

chrome hull
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Defensive stance is less aggro

lusty grotto
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no

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its not

opal ledge
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well... less dmg less agro

lusty grotto
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well sure, its slightly less damage

oak ivy
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the deal less damage was removes ages ago

chrome hull
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Yes

lusty grotto
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but when people say stances are linked to agro they mean modifiers

chrome hull
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But also. It’s less aggro

lusty grotto
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sure

sweet egret
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it reverts to def stance every time you log out btw

severe star
lusty grotto
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just not worth considering

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the dps/agro gain means absolutely jack shit

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the dps gain means more for raid parsing, thats it

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but again what Lord Kazuya is replying to is the stances bug

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it turns you unhealable

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literally

severe star
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realistically I would only maybe use battle* stance on saladbar and vora

lusty grotto
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we dont have berserker stance

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you mean battle stance

severe star
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I do

celest notch
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Also, the dps gain from battle stance is so minuscule that losing 20% damage reduction is almost never worth the trade in anything above a 10, imo

pastel geyser
ionic fern
chrome hull
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I’ll take your word for it. I haven’t ever looked at the threat calculation math. I’m sure it’s negligible like you said. Just trying to be accurate

oak ivy
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Stance mastery would get higher value in higher keys huh

lusty grotto
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what threat calculation

chrome hull
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Aggro has to be calculated by some formula. I don’t know it

celest notch
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I calculate aggro by pressing tclap on pull

pastel geyser
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u dont generate more threat in def stance right thats some classic thing lol

lusty grotto
tribal wharf
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if you hit a taunt ability the debuff it leavs will cause your spells to generate 800% aditionall threat

oak ivy
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holy fuck its up to 950 now??

lusty grotto
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yes

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since TWW S3

mystic dust
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Quick question for a beef boys, do we still hit execute now or nah. Heard it got nerfed and can't check because wowhead blocked at work :/

tribal wharf
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during the taunt debuff window yes

lusty grotto
mystic dust
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Ty

celest notch
mystic dust
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👍

lusty grotto
celest notch
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Fair, I get so used to just weaving IP between gcds that I don't even think about rage management most of the time

lusty grotto
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thats the proper way to play Prot

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so youre good

celest notch
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blushes cutely you mean it?

vital vale
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do you do this pull aswell? im talking about pull 10. any idea why people take so much damage here? the tooltips on both voidbenders and destroyers suggest that there is only avoidable damage to the party in this pull, and yet folks are taking lots of damage and im pretty sure they arent standing in frontal or circles

celest notch
vital vale
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ah the circles do unavoidable dmg when they spawn?

vocal harness
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Can someone point me to a good mythic+ talent build or resource I seem to be missing something and having a hard time in 9 keys even with 255 ilvl

celest notch
vocal harness
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I’m sadly out of the house I prolly should have waited to ask till I got home my bad

vital vale
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center seems safer yet people are still struggling

ionic fern
vocal harness
outer willow
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What’s your toon name?

vocal harness
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Slimetrail

celest notch
glad drum
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its jover for me bros

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i got the bug

lusty grotto
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rip

glad drum
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as far as i can tell

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this is something they pushed for rwf that is bricking us

celest notch
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Is the bug permanent or is there some way to reset it?

glad drum
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its permanent

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if you get it your character is essentially bricked

finite surge
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What is the bug, and how does it happen?

lusty grotto
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nobody knows how it happens

glad drum
lusty grotto
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it just removes stances

glad drum
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you become hostile

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and not just stances, it clears food

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and you dont receive lust

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it also clears beacon or anything on you

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it only happens in "seasonal" content from my testing

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anything heroic and below that i queue into nothing happens

undone beacon
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damn they really want people to reroll brew

glad drum
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but i go into a delve, raid or an m+

tribal wharf
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ahem

glad drum
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instant clear

finite surge
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😵

glad drum
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btw

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even brew

vital vale
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i mean like this

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if you are doing 3 pulls here instead of 2

tribal wharf
glad drum
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yes you literally become hostile

celest notch
glad drum
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even if you are same faction

vocal harness
severe star
glad drum
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of course lol

lusty grotto
glad drum
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just be aware that if you tank a key

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there is a chance it happens to you

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i would avoid playing tank for now

lusty grotto
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nah

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i havent had it happen

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most of the regulars here have not had it happen, except yogi

tribal wharf
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i checked the video and i ht mega taunt as running down but no clap, then on the frame the healered procced i assume its cheat death because i went to 1 hp, i lose the defensive stance

ionic fern
tribal wharf
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my theory is or was with the cross faction and it say alliance and horde and no input for aggro

outer willow
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@vocal harness

glad drum
outer willow
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This you

glad drum
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also it was the same for me

lusty grotto
plush tendon
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its not the worse talent tree ive seen

glad drum
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everything was completely fine up until last night

vocal harness
lusty grotto
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no reason to do fear mongering

coarse bay
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I havent done my warrior since i heard about it but it’ll be whatever

glad drum
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how is it fearmongering to tell people there is a gamebreaking bug going around

coarse bay
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Have faith okayge

tribal wharf
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i have the log of it

lusty grotto
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we know about the bug already

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but yes its good to tell people

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but telling people not to play tank is just going too far

tribal wharf
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FOR NOW

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alll we can do is grin and bear it

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and try to avoid the bear along the path

glad drum
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thats why i specified for now but sure i can see why you'd take it that way

tribal wharf
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thats gone crazy and is attacking folks, eventually the rangers will come out and take care of it

glad drum
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not fearmongering though, just trying to let people know there isn't some workaround, you do run the risk of your character being bricked

analog magnet
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Yo guys, new warrior tank question…

Do you still block with your shield while pulling mobs together if you hit from behind?

Occasionally I noticed damage spikes doing it but wasn’t sure if some of the nuances for warrior. Always tanked on a Monk before

tribal wharf
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do not get hit in back ever if possible

coarse bay
tribal wharf
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i still get flamed for it

plush tendon
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**NEVER **turn your back to a mob

coarse bay
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Block/parry/dodge dont work

sharp gale
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You die really fast if you take backshots

tardy abyss
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really fast? more like instant

sharp gale
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In 2s no

tardy abyss
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Depending on key level

opal ledge
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sometimes i get a few backshots when charging to the next pack

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usually on pull

sharp gale
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And stagger don’t work from the back if I member

celest notch
analog magnet
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lol thanks for the answers. I know being crit is long gone but did notice a few spikes.

Stagger in never had a problem with rolling around

opal ledge
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i got the 1188 haste
but i bet i will get no haste item in the vault and soon that will not be an option anymore and i will be back to HR

tribal wharf
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this is an important post

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do not do what i just did

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see how i got my ass smacked?

opal ledge
fringe mural
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you run sideways or to the front

opal ledge
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it was just a fun goal

fringe mural
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Backpaddling is slow

lusty grotto
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you shouldnt worry about hitting the 1188 thing

fringe mural
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sideways walking will still get you not hit from behind but able to run at max speed

opal ledge
# tribal wharf

ur shield block fell off, that hurted more than a few mobs in the back

fringe mural
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it's good for repositioning if you cant charge/jump

tribal wharf
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we should add the additional qualifier to that list of "should i use ITF or not" the following
Did i gimp my other secondaries to get that 1188 haste? i have it but i have 22 mastery, 47 crit and 104 versa

oak ivy
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stupid question but eant to be sure

round cliff
round cliff
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doesn't charge instantly snap your back

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towards ur pack

opal ledge
lusty grotto
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and i answered it

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unbuffed

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unbuffed means no buffs

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including flasks

tribal wharf
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what they mean by 1188 haste truly, is when you have more of the other stats too, to boost it

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and yes, unbufed, so no food buff or flask

celest notch
analog magnet
# sharp gale Rolling through a pack ?

Yeah rolling through or away from a pack never had issues then even running a bit after but I’m assuming the distance was out of melee or dodge works different than block

oak ivy
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oopsie daisy. ive been playing it without enough haste

round cliff
lusty grotto
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no gaps = youre fine

celest notch
tribal wharf
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yes

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everything infront of you, you can block, if its blockable

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same goes for parry and dodge

round cliff
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seems kinda impossible to line packs up so that every charge is at a nice right angle

analog magnet
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And this 1188 Haste convo, is this our goal unbuffed?

round cliff
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at that point it's easier to just walk between packs if ur chaining

sharp gale
celest notch
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No need to 'line it up'

lusty grotto
tribal wharf
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oh god do i have the clip

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id have to look

round cliff
fringe mural
sharp gale
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Stagger = the hit is a dot on 10 sec

celest notch
fringe mural
round cliff
fringe mural
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I was wondering if they really take less dmg than we do

round cliff
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instant backshots

fringe mural
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Because we actually reduce the dmg by blocking by a huge amount

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and not delay it to another point in time

sharp gale
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The talent bob and weave which adds stagger 2 sec doesn’t decrease dmg taken but it make the dot tick on more sec, usually it is a talent suggested for new brews

solid sun
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Anyone paying attention to the race?

fringe mural
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i don't see race

sharp gale
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They are close to kill p4

fringe mural
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oh that race

solid sun
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Echo or Liquid

sharp gale
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Écho rn

solid sun
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Has liquid even started yet

sharp gale
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Soon I guess

lusty grotto
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14% isnt close

fringe mural
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who is their sponsor?

solid sun
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I'm shocked liquid isn't in there yet

fringe mural
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i'll vote for whoever has the less dicky company behind them

sharp gale
lusty grotto
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liquid is PST Rhino

solid sun
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It's like after 9:30 PST

lusty grotto
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they will be in soon

fringe mural
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pst is west side?

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ah yeah pacific

sharp gale
fringe mural
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if they got enough sleep that is

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concentration goes down hard if you are tired

sharp gale
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They extended until 2 am their time

fringe mural
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i wonder what their families say to them playing on the complete easter weekend lol

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It is easter in the us too right?

sharp gale
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We use the same calendar as US yes

solid sun
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Yep

plush tendon
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yea, the race is coming down to who can get to p4 the most

solid sun
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US doesn't think of Easter probably the same way it does Thanksgiving or Christmas

plush tendon
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Echo is close, but damn is it hard to get into P4

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and you need the whole raid alive going into it

fringe mural
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p4 is like an ozumat phase?

celest notch
fringe mural
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Everyone dealing crazy dps but you have really limited time?

plush tendon
solid sun
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Well all the people around me, in the US, don't really see Easter the same way they do Thanksgiving or Christmas

plush tendon
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plus theres nasty ticking damage

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its a legit damage/hps check

fringe mural
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so one more time of give it your all

plush tendon
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basically

fringe mural
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do they save lust for p4?

plush tendon
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but getting through p3 was already that XD

fringe mural
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or is it needed before

plush tendon
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IDK tbh

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I think they need lust in p3?

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but, I thought they should maybe try to lust pull and get a second lust

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since all the damage adds up

fringe mural
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Is the fight that long?

plush tendon
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I think so?

fringe mural
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i mean if they get an increased dmg buff in p4 it will scale heavily with lust for sure

plush tendon
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true, but they may need lust in p3 to just get through p3

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this fight really has no breaks

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maybe p2 is a slight break

sharp gale
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I don’t think they can do p3 without lust

toxic pewter
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boss aint goin down today will need to be nerfed to kill her

fringe mural
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is the campaign sending you into story mode march like they did in voidspire?

tribal wharf
sharp gale
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And I don’t think they need a lot of ppl alive for long time in p4 to kill it

plush tendon
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but if Liquid gets a reset

tribal wharf
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you guys were talking about using charge

plush tendon
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they win

toxic pewter
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nerf inc for liquid never fails

tribal wharf
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THIS SHIT happened to me the otherday

toxic pewter
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will hit any moment now prob

tribal wharf
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i was like what in the hell

plush tendon
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naw, I think blizz is loving this

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the RWF guilds shitting on their raid calling it too easy

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so they turbo buff it and say 'are you not entertained?'

drowsy comet
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What would you recommend to craft besides weapons?

fringe mural
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shield

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if you dont raid mythic

plush tendon
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I bet the devs were cackling when Max thought they got it

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and the secret phase came

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he was so confident there wouldnt be one

fringe mural
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I heard people recommending bracers and cloak

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as final crafts

sharp gale
tribal wharf
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i think at this point they should add in a 5th phase one week only attempt

plush tendon
drowsy comet
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done already, got 2 sparks

plush tendon
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since they have the lowest stat budget

drowsy comet
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shield done yea

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ah okay

tribal wharf
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you have 7 days from tuesday to kil the 5th a nd final ultra secret form

plush tendon
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but it may not be applicable right now

ionic fern
lofty warren
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Final crafts when ur making bis list not when ur trying to get best upgrades in interim

plush tendon
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if you dont have easy access to lots of the mythic items

sharp gale
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Ring is good too

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Since you need 2, low chance to be vaultcuck

plush tendon
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do we prio the rings from Nexus point/

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for the set bonus?

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the stats on those are also pretty good for us to

fringe mural
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We all want l'ura's ring

drowsy comet
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wowhead says boots for some reason

lusty grotto
fringe mural
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don't we

plush tendon
lusty grotto
sharp gale
drowsy comet
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we go icy veins? since when

fringe mural
lofty warren
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Since nomeriayoe left us

lusty grotto
sharp gale
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Or you mean dungeon Lura

lusty grotto
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lil pug what have you been doing in here really

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cause holy

fringe mural
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i got allerias neck without killing her

lofty warren
mental vector
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Do we have infos on the Tank heal bug? Would be nice to be able to play the game...

fringe mural
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for real

lusty grotto
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most regulars here havent had it happen

sharp gale
lofty warren
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What's tank heal bug

fringe mural
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i got alleria neck on heroic and only killed her in story mode

tribal wharf
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whistle to my self

lusty grotto
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except yogi

fringe mural
mental vector
fringe mural
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it was in a delve for sure

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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log of what happened

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if it can help anyone solve it

lusty grotto
lofty warren
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What is the tank heal bug

tribal wharf
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click my log pepega

sharp gale
tribal wharf
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not on that page, but, for the he stance loss

fringe mural
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I can't complete the quest inside the delve can i?

lofty warren
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Is it when ur healer has bug in brian and doesnt heal good? I've run into that a bunch

outer willow
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How many of us have had the bug happen? Like 3?

ionic fern
drowsy comet
mental vector
fringe mural
sharp gale
fringe mural
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and it was heroic

lofty warren
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Ohh I havent experienced that.

tribal wharf
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im on stike personally

mental vector
lofty warren
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What is the workaround to fix the unhealable bug?

outer willow
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Don’t log back in

tribal wharf
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for me its dont play the game till they change it

mental vector
fringe mural
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dude with that amount of haste idc if the l'ura ring is heroic or myth track tbh

umbral atlas
tribal wharf
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refund if it lasts for over 90 days

fringe mural
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Especially if it pushes you over the itf edge

sharp gale
plush tendon
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lura neck does have a extra socket though

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at least I think it does?

fringe mural
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It's a ring isnt it?

sharp gale
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Talking about alleria neck

drowsy comet
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raid lura or dungeon lura

plush tendon
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doesnt that also have two sockets?

fringe mural
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raid

sharp gale
umbral atlas
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engineering win 😄

drowsy comet
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ah yea the neck is insane, but get it first before you judge 👀

fringe mural
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the point being that a raid drop from alleria was able to get to me on heroic without me killing her

sharp gale
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Heavy Mastery/haste neck
100% haste ring

drowsy comet
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the ring is also just insane

fringe mural
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so i presume the same might happen with the ring from raid l'ura

lofty warren
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In a +12 mt I did feel like i wasn't getting healed for mobs before last boss up to the boss itself. The healer only spoke Spanish so I didnt understand what he was saying but I complained o wasn't getting healed.. we did finish the dungeon though I just had to use some self heals if I recall + the ret paladin was wogging me.

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
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you cannot get mythic lura loot on any event reward

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the only way is to kill mythic lura

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or any mythic boss for that matter

fringe mural
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yeah probably

lusty grotto
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not probably

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thats just the way it is

fringe mural
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vault doesnt give you raid loot?

lusty grotto
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if you dont raid? no

fringe mural
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or just from bosses you killed

lusty grotto
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from bosses youve killed, yes

lusty grotto
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but it doesnt matter, if you do not raid mythic, you will replace anything you get because it'll be at best hero track

fringe mural
lusty grotto
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to all tracks

fringe mural
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No, i got alnseer

drowsy comet
# fringe mural That is a cata item

no, from the chest that you get from the quest, you have a chance of getting a raid item. I know that cuz my druid got the Alleria trinket, only champion but still. Rhino was arguing with me if its BiS or not

lusty grotto
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you raid normal, you get champion

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you raid heroic, you get hero track

fringe mural
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and i didnt even see the boss once

lusty grotto
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from the TWW chest, you get normal (champion) raid loot

lofty warren
outer willow
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Those ones I pull in two packs

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I think if DPS stacks on you, the absorb is spread and really hard to heal

fringe mural
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so you can't get a myth track raid item in the 2nd row of the vault even if you killed the bosses on myth and pushed the dungeon vault up to myth track?

lusty grotto
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how is this so hard to explain

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IF YOU KILL THE MYTH BOSSES IN RAID, you will get myth loot

outer willow
daring marlin
outer willow
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I don’t think any of us are raiding mythic

fringe mural
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Guys i know

outer willow
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lol

lofty warren
outer willow
fringe mural
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but you can get myth loot from doing myth+ can you not?

daring marlin
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Or just getting it

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w/e

fringe mural
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in the vault

daring marlin
lusty grotto
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IF YOU DO NOT KILL THE BOSSES IN RAID, the only way to get raid loot is via Timewalking or Dungeon event rewards

lusty grotto
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what guilford said

drowsy comet
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calm down ladies, holy

daring marlin
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nimchip is always calm

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despite being a warrior

fringe mural
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okay so how on earth was i able to get the alleria neck while being inside a fucking delve

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
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the caps are emphasis

daring marlin
fringe mural
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timewalk and?

lusty grotto
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brother

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read

drowsy comet
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very chill sir

fringe mural
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that is funny because

lofty warren
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This guy is showing me up. Nobody is gonna out pepega me! The earth is flat!

lusty grotto
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the Timewalking chest reward is Normal (champion track) loot
the Dungeon event reward is Heroic (hero track) loot

fringe mural
trim dawn
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there has also been the delve event for one raid piece but that doesnt change the basic explanation of how it works.

toxic pewter
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i should do that champ loot quest

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maybe can get a trinket

fringe mural
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i know what you said nim

lusty grotto
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then why are you asking

fringe mural
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I am just not understanding how i have a heroic alleria neck

fringe mural
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when i didnt complete a quest to get it

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or raid

lusty grotto
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the pvp quest?

undone beacon
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show proof of neck or it didnt happen

fringe mural
coarse bay
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Idk how confirmed it is but when the “turbo boost” event comes you’ll get tokens/coins you can roll for mythic loot from either completing m+ or killing a mythic raid boss. Still requires raid kills for raid loot though

undone beacon
coarse bay
fringe mural
vital vale
fringe mural
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i'll check what i have done and try to investigate

lofty warren
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AFAIK the only source of mythic loot is in vault by doing m+ and by doing myth raid. Nothing else matters bc its not myth and heroic easily obtainable through various sources

outer willow
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There it is

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If you’re stacked, people will be hurting

lofty warren
fringe mural
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because i got heroic alleria neck without ever killing her in a raid

coarse bay
lofty warren
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In vault or from a quest?

fringe mural
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or alnseer trinket without even meeting chimaerus once

coarse bay
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Chimaeris is technically above alleria

undone beacon
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Dude is just ragebaiting cmon y'all

coarse bay
undone beacon
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Gobbling up the bait

coarse bay
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I have a mythic loot from luna

solid sun
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I didn't get baited

celest notch
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he's a master baiter

fringe mural
formal forge
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I got a mythic trinket off L’ura and I’ve done nothing above normal haha

fringe mural
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definitely not vault

solid sun
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I actually didn't realize the jungle bird was higher than alleria, though

frail blade
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I am L'ura

outer willow
fringe mural
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You guys really

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i'm cracking up here

lofty warren
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I think if a quest gives random heroic item from the raid then it doesnt require you to have killed that boss

coarse bay
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I havent logged in during midnight yet but i have full bis 287 ilvl

lofty warren
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Ok so what's the problem?

coarse bay
lusty grotto
undone beacon
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Its all been champion

solid sun
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You're a champion

outer willow
lusty grotto
#

link your armory or youre just baiting

fringe mural
#

i will

lusty grotto
#

ok well where is it

#

wdym you will

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just copy paste it

fringe mural
#

gimme a second

lofty warren
#

Ohh well if that quest doesnt exist and you didnt touch that boss then yea dont think that can happen

coarse bay
#

While on your pc?

lusty grotto
#

sure thats why youre typing at your PC

fringe mural
#

on my phone

lusty grotto
#

full of shit

coarse bay
#

Nah

lusty grotto
#

nope

fringe mural
#

lol

lusty grotto
#

youre not on your phone

fringe mural
#

Guys

lusty grotto
#

we knoww

coarse bay
#

Biggest tell is caps

#

First letter

solid sun
#

After the fresh tres leches cake they're making THEN we get the pics

fringe mural
#

i'm sending a raunchy selfie if you don't stop baiting me

lusty grotto
#

im done with this guy

undone beacon
solid sun
#

When you send the pic can you include a little ankle please

fringe mural
#

lol

coarse bay
solid sun
#

Just a hint of ankle

coarse bay
#

Saved in collection

lofty warren
#

Maybe he found a way to get loot without having to touch boss. Pls share so I can get bis loot without having to touch myth raid

solid sun
#

Everyone wants to play

#

But nobody wants to pay

#

I think I'm gonna take my daughter to cicis pizza and watch her do crane games

solid sun
#

Dude Cam

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I played a little level 80 ele sham

#

It's so funny

coarse bay
#

Ele is fun

#

I kinda suck at it though

solid sun
#

If you press the super saiyan button

#

And also that lightning button

#

You finish casts so fast and lightning is just goin EVERYWHERE

coarse bay
#

Oh ya its so satisfying

#

I really like it

#

Visually probs my favorite spec

#

Or class in general

solid sun
#

Lightning all over forever

#

Valeera dying

#

No damage

#

BUT WE GOT LIGHTNING

coarse bay
#

Lmao

#

Indeed

#

Like i said im pretty bad at it i think

#

But

#

Its cool

#

And cool wins

outer willow
#

Guys I have a dumb question. Please nim don’t yell at me, I’m learning.

Key% parse #s in our logs are not a great metric why?

If I’m doing a 10 at ilvl 260, and parse 50, and then Rhino does a 10 at ilvl 270 and parses 99… I can’t really compare myself to him because ilvl gap right?

solid sun
#

It's true

coarse bay
#

I dont normally choose to play something worse for fun but for ele i do

outer willow
#

So the number is not a good metric to measure by

#

Right?

coarse bay
#

Like higher key is higher parse

solid sun
#

Well first I would do less damage than you

outer willow
solid sun
#

So if I parsed higher than you it's probably another bug

outer willow
solid sun
#

like execute

undone beacon
#

key parses are based on points, which is a combination of like 20 metrics. They are not a great metric to use because they arent super clear

coarse bay
#

Also, parses in general for m+ arent reliable because of the variables involved. Raid is at least more static and consistent

solid sun
#

I think key % is like

#

How beautiful was the key you used

#

Was it a super elaborate key

#

Or just like a plane jane key

#

plain?

#

whatever i dont write im a rhino

#

I actually think trying to use logs from dungeons is just so hard

#

Outside of a couple things

fringe mural
solid sun
#

That looks like a phishing email

fringe mural
#

it is

solid sun
#

Pash can you cyber protect us

fringe mural
#

i'm a nigerian prince

outer willow
#

Thanks guys.

undone beacon
#

Scanned the link with 18 antivirus engines, you're safe

#

Also that looks like a Normal alleria neck

coarse bay
#

263 could be champ

fringe mural
#

okay wait

coarse bay
undone beacon
#

Hero Alleria neck drops at 6/6, which is 276

#

Normal is 263

#

4head

solid sun
#

That's how I'm looking at you rn

#

You dweeb

fringe mural
fringe mural
#

okay well you're right, it's champion

#

still it's an alleria neck

#

i was so sure

lusty grotto
#

which you got from vault

#

end of story

fringe mural
#

no

lusty grotto
#

we move on

fringe mural
#

i got 2 items from vault

lusty grotto
#

doesnt matter

#

we're done

fringe mural
#

first week i got pants

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2nd week tier chest

lusty grotto
#

doesn't matter, we're done

fringe mural
#

okay

solid sun
#

What are we even yapping about

#

If you have to raid or not?

fringe mural
#

if you can get items from bosses you havent killed

#

that's the point

lofty warren
#

Wcl m+ doesnt make sense to me. Like 340 on nexus is orange but 341 on caverns is purple

lusty grotto
#

and we answered you, yes you can in the TW chest

solid sun
#

Well technically yes, but it's a super low odds type situation to get any specific item you're potentially trying to target

fringe mural
#

and no, i got allerias neck before the tw week

#

but you believe what you want

lusty grotto
#

then youre special

#

we're done

#

moving on

plush tendon
#

you guys get loot?

fringe mural
#

ok

lusty grotto
#

bring on the Warrior questions

plush tendon
solid sun
#

If we put our shields in our right hands instead of our left hands would we mitigate more or less damage

plush tendon
#

so he has to try super hard to block attacks

lofty warren
#

What do wcl m+ points mean and what about the color

dense meteor
#

Quick question gents. Tank friend and I scratching our heads. I know in the past prot has used blood and thunder (I guess it's gone now?) To spread rend in M+. I can't find in wowhead or IV where rend is part of the rota. Does prot manually spread rend now or just not press it anymore? Or are we just missing some new interaction?

undone beacon
#

Rend is auto applied by TC

lusty grotto
#

BnT is baked in

undone beacon
#

Take the rend button off your bars

lusty grotto
#

has been since mid DF

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or DF s2 rather

dense meteor
#

See that's what I thought it could be. I don't play prot just trying to figure it out lol

lusty grotto
#

yeah just read the TC tooltip

undone beacon
#

Yep. If you have rend talented, it is auto applied by Thunder Clap on up to 5 targets

dense meteor
#

Thanks okayge

solid sun
#

Just in case you wanted to see it

dense meteor
#

Huge

outer willow
dense meteor
#

Ok follow up question. Does TB apply rend as well or just TC

solid sun
#

Drop last stand

#

Take tough as nails

outer willow
lofty warren
#

If you want more defensive take bsv instead imo

solid sun
#

He has bsv

#

pepega at least look at the picture good grief

fringe mural
#

what should i drop in case i want to go for bsv for safety?

#

if i'm using the iv thane guide as reference

undone beacon
#

Bloodsurge or Bloodborne

fringe mural
#

ty

lofty warren
#

I've copy pasted the "recommended talents" from archon for a more defensive build that has bsv and more rage stuff when I wanted to use more defensive talents

#

Dunno for sure if its better but I sure liked having bsv. Like all things its probably a trade off of dps for defensiveness

lusty grotto
#

thats fine

dense meteor
#

Funny update. Tank friend thought since he never pressed rend, he could take the talent point out of it. Which is why he thought he had to manually apply rend and assumed BnT was gone. (Which it was but just baked into TC now) pepega of the year award goes to

undone beacon
dense meteor
lusty grotto
#

unfortunate

outer willow
#

It’s moon time

fringe mural
#

you can get the middle vault row up to myth track by doing m+ right?

#

+9 and up?

undone beacon
#

10+ and up

fringe mural
#

okay

#

11 has the next affix?

undone beacon
#

12 gets rid of xal affix and makes it so deaths cost 15 seconds

fringe mural
#

Okay

daring marlin
#

Is that unfriendly bug tied to crossfaction grouping spaghetti code, perhaps?

#

be pretty funny if so

ember basin
#

Quick question for the smart pwars out there. What is my Devastator?

undone beacon
#

Your auto attacks

ember basin
#

Ty!

undone beacon
#

Devastate is a button replaced by the Devastator talent, which makes your autos do more damage and give rage

daring marlin
#

bring back sunder armor

#

ducks

lofty warren
#

Which abilities can you use while youre getting cced by using demolish?

undone beacon
#

Shield Wall, Spell Reflect

lusty grotto
#

read the last line pepega...

ember basin
#

Literally the talent I clicked right above this one… sheesh.

lofty warren
#

Ignore pain shield block?

lusty grotto
#

yes

lofty warren
#

It says "and use certain defensive abilities" but doesnt say which

lusty grotto
#

all of them

#

except demo shout

lofty warren
#

Rally?

coarse bay
#

Not a gcd ability

lusty grotto
#

all of them, except demo shout

coarse bay
#

Is rally considered a defensive?

lofty warren
#

I consider Shockwave a defensive but that is in the eye of the beholder

sharp gale
coarse bay
#

I mean its literally a cc though

#

It controls the crowd

sharp gale
#

I do consider shockwave as my emergency def cd keks

mighty valley
#

yeah it's basically all non-gcd defensive abilities

#

so that's why no demo

lofty warren
#

Found this on wowhead. Doesn't have rally

#

Apparently shield charge and defensive heroic leap and charge are defensives byt not self heal or rally

sharp gale
#

Dragon charge peepologs

lofty warren
#
lusty grotto
sharp gale
#

i just imagine what you can do with demolish + dragon charge since it bumps enemies

lusty grotto
#

haha yea

lofty warren
#

Why are charge and warrior jump considered defensives

sharp gale
#

I feel it’s more like oGCDs

lofty warren
#

Ohh it really should be "and use non GCD warrior abilities"

sharp gale
#

shield charge is oGCD ?

coarse bay
#

Surprised u can charge

sharp gale
#

I think it’s a midnight change, you can leap etc without cancelling animation

mighty valley
#

i haven't actually tried charging

lofty warren
#

Shield charge is on the gcd unless im going sensile

#

Senile

undone beacon
#

it is on the gcd yeah

sharp gale
#

Im senile so im too used pressing on it i forgot if it is or not

mighty valley
#

most players never read tooltips but pepega reads them 700000x to make up for everyone else

wicked vault
#

Are we switching to Colossus in 0.5 patch? How are we feeling about it?

coarse bay
#

Still a ways off

lofty warren
#

So if you have both up you should do demolish first to start casting and then while you are casting you can shield charge to avoid getting 2x gcds. Right?

toxic pewter
#

can u even shield charge during demolish

outer willow
#

Man I love clapping though. Col will be an adjustment

tribal wharf
#

no, unless you cancel it with jump

alpine terrace
#

was trying to pick a class to tank with. monk feels too meta rn and blood dk seems too rough right now. plus i already have a lvl 85 warrior lol.
what do yall enjoy most about warrior? apparently it cc's well and is pretty survivable while not being too tough is what I've heard?

lusty grotto
#

i enjoy, playing the same class i have since vanilla

#

🤷‍♂️

undone beacon
#

i get to hit people with a shield and yell

#

peak fantasy

alpine terrace
#

hells yea haha. I also havent played a tank before and want to learn. I've only ever healed before but I'm looking for a change in pace. got a hpal to 270 ilvl (last time I played was bfa) and feel a bit bored of it now

undone beacon
#

If you like like hitting people with a shield and yelling a lot, you'll like pwarr. Its very sturdy

#

If you like self healing, pick a different tank

sharp gale
#

i like prot war bc brown

dusky canopy
#

Paladin time soon

#

@lusty grotto

solid sun
#

Good luck brew

undone beacon
#

i dont like this gif idk

#

why he orang

sharp gale
#

Your arms are ready ?

dusky canopy
#

Oh yeah I’m better at arms than fury

dusky canopy
#

Boss is cooked

solid sun
#

Some frogs orange pash

dusky canopy
#

Just wait until the 5 min alignment with all CDs and pot

#

Mmmmm

dusky canopy
#

I mentioned PI but that will never happen

#

Lmao

solid sun
#

Even one of the battletoads is orange

sharp gale
dusky canopy
#

Our hunters are absolute animals they’ll never not get the pi

#

Id have to actually switch guilds to get pi lmao

#

I’m just going to proc a guidon in vault and bring my own pi to the 5 min alignment

sharp gale
#

the day dps war is PI target, war in warcraft will be back

solid sun
#

I’d give you pi

dusky canopy
sharp gale
#

today is heroic queldanas and dragons for me

dusky canopy
#

Dragons tonight first, im benched on first dragons kill in favor of other warrior, sad times

smoky saffron
#

For the haste requirement of 1188 unbuffed is that when with max ITF you have 8secs or less SB cd? Or is that when you can overlap SC to attempt to maintain perm uptime?

lunar haven
#

Quick Q:

Can you intervene + spell reflect to reflect a spell cast on someone else?

sharp gale
#

i like the raidplan, smartest RL

lusty grotto
alpine terrace
#

does anyone have a guide they're recommend for ui settings that i could import for prot warrior? I'm gonna respec my lvl 84 warrior into that and start doing some timewalking dungeons to 90 to learn

dusky canopy
#

Bro I’m cooked gotta battle two devourers for the add pad on dragons and or possibly a second warrior

#

Depends what the roster looks like when it any turn next week surely

sharp gale
#

i am the mass grip point purpleface

smoky saffron
undone beacon
#

i dont get to add pad on dragons at all as a spriest

plush tendon
#

Our Spriest got to add pad

#

add pad the bench

dusky canopy
#

Just wait until I give them the shocker and pull up with colossus smash -> demolish and the adds evaporate before the empowered devourer spell

fringe mural
#

The point still stands, i'll check next weeks vault to see

#

timewalk raid quest gave heroic cataclysm loot btw

solid sun
#

Why do you get benched brew

undone beacon
#

I'm safe from being benched for now as i am our only priest

solid sun
#

Yeah I’m leveling a priest rn buddy

#

You watch yourself

dusky canopy
#

Other warrior has worse gear so he gets the extra vault slot this week

fringe mural
#

Works every time

dusky canopy
#

We’re actually pretty comparable skill wise but I’d say he has the edge on me when it comes to add pad I’m older and slow

#

Rip rip

drowsy comet
#

ngl pwarr is fun af with more haste, really enjoying it

#

Raiding is just pmo, but only once a week

lusty grotto
#

are you not gonna play rdruid anymore?

fringe mural
lusty grotto
#

full swap or just alt?

chilly brook
sharp gale
#

My alt is rdruid/boomie for now

solid sun
#

Oh yeah I’m gonna come to the next guild hangout with Pash as the other priest with like way more gear and way cooler clothes on

chilly brook
#

I shadow in raid and have been dabblin with disc in keys

solid sun
#

Homie is done for

chilly brook
#

disc giga fun

undone beacon
#

Honestly shadow is pretty fun

#

except i did a key this morning in my raid build and had to manually SWP everything

#

that sucked

#

Big damage but lame gameplay

solid sun
#

Oop

chilly brook
dusky canopy
#

How does shadow crash work?

sharp gale
#

It makes me remember that SL aff lock ST build played in keys

chilly brook
#

it doesn't

solid sun
#

It’s gone

drowsy comet
# lusty grotto full swap or just alt?

idk, but i think im getting back to fully tanking. I saw what the tank shortage looks like when I played healer, and ppl invite every tank possible lol. Got myself Kira's UI too, yes I subbed to him. Really enjoying it, and being back to ElvUI too, was testing othet UI addons while I played rdruid

dusky canopy
chilly brook
#

we have void tentacle now

undone beacon
chilly brook
#

or tentacle slam or w/e it's called

daring marlin
#

KILL IT

chilly brook
#

gud button

lusty grotto
undone beacon
#

I like tendie slap

solid sun
#

Live look at shadow priests in keys

undone beacon
#

Except it has z-axis fuckery

#

and that last room in xenas is annoying

chilly brook
#

no meme I been enjoyin unholy tho

alpine terrace
#

so haste looks like a main stat? are crit and vers tied 2nd after haste? or do you prefer vers for prot warrior?

dusky canopy
#

Is what it is

lusty grotto
drowsy comet
coarse bay
#

People who dont main warrior monkahmm

#

I see who you are

solid sun
#

(Cam is one)

coarse bay
tribal wharf
#

main stat = agility int or str, secondary = haste and crit versa and mastery, tertiary (3rd tier) = avoidance, speed, leech, indestructible.

drowsy comet
alpine terrace
#

haha I'm open to learning the class! It seems cool. I just imported some talents from wowhead lol. I'm mountain for raids and m+

lusty grotto
#

i use windtools

drowsy comet
coarse bay
lusty grotto
#

dump wowhead for now

coarse bay
#

I mean ya, heck wowhead

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
drowsy comet
#

I use windtools myself, got some nice qol, like addon mini icons being bordered under the map

#

Minicc is crazy good yea, but I need to set it up once, dont really feel like I need it anyway

solid sun
#

So many non warrior players around here

#

What happened to us

#

Priests, death knights, ele shaman, Resto Druids, goodness gracious

lusty grotto
#

youre all to blame for the tank shortage

solid sun
#

Midnight hits and no more tanks

#

Like we got a bedtime or smth

#

“Getting good sleep before school”

daring marlin
lament osprey
daring marlin
#

I wanna do dam for once

solid sun
#

Guilford is a super traitor

#

Not only is he not tanking, he’s playing paladin!

daring marlin
#

bum

solid sun
#

Excuse me

daring marlin
#

bum death knight

solid sun
#

My warrior is my most geared character

#

My bdk only tanking leveling dungos rn 😂

drowsy comet
daring marlin
#

My OG Warrior still has more /played than all my other characters combined

tribal wharf
drowsy comet
undone beacon
#

i sell people pi now peepo

drowsy comet
heavy sparrow
drowsy comet
#

the best feeling to me is like when you come into a group, everyone get ready, I always set up foodbuff too, nice lil bonus and when going thru the dungeon, getting a comliment from the healer. I always make sure they have enough mana and if they need to drink, I'll wait 4-5 seconds, thats enough to get a chunk of mana, speaking for myself as a rdruid, they especially burn thru mana

lusty grotto
daring marlin
coarse bay
daring marlin
#

I sat in queue on my lock with an 11 seat for 15 mins the other day

#

big sad

cerulean tusk
#

Want a protip?

drowsy comet
#

And I finally know the route for Pit, the beginning is quite a hussle tbh, especially when you havent checked any route. Imo the easiest dungeon is Skyreach, and then close Id say Algethar after the nerf

coarse bay
#

Pit is easiest dungeon for me

undone beacon
#

if the cat says "run your own key" imma go insanse

lusty grotto
#

aight ist time for NPX farm again

cerulean tusk
#

The optional pro tip:
||Write 10, instead of 11, you will get more applicants and noone will care once it has started either way.||

lusty grotto
undone beacon
undone beacon
#

dont decieve me

drowsy comet
#

i still see so many lonely DPS in +2s hoping someone would join 😭

daring marlin
#

Genuinely didn't consider that

undone beacon
cerulean tusk
#

I know, I been around the block a few times

lusty grotto
#

did it finally drop pash?!

#

it exists?!

daring marlin
#

I can't be fucked dude

chilly brook
undone beacon
#

I have a hero crit/haste ring and a champ mast/hast ring and it annoys me

daring marlin
#

I do not run enough keys for that shit

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
#

well tbf i need:

  • shield
  • shoulders
  • omission
    so NPX is good value
undone beacon
#

I need the mast/hase ring but i dont wanna run more NPX deadge

daring marlin
#

Should see all the DPS queueing up for the 15s

#

hahaha

undone beacon
drowsy comet
daring marlin
#

ring set

lusty grotto
#

for 3 items

undone beacon
#

The only thing outta M+ i could use is rings really

#

shoulders would be nice to save a few hero crests but

lusty grotto
#

better to do one dungeon for 3 items than looking for 3 different keys

undone beacon
#

Rings are the only significant boost because stats n shit

drowsy comet
undone beacon
#

tricked y'all into carrying/boosting his key

#

evil

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

i'd be jumping right into the pit. of saron.

chilly brook
#

but idk I just feel like I haven't been enjoying warrior 🙁

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
drowsy comet
#

Nah he means Pit, a hole

undone beacon
daring marlin
undone beacon
#

imagine being named woahyer and not enjoying woahyer

lusty grotto
#

true

#

griff go back to griff

chilly brook
#

🤔

drowsy comet
#

Btw besides the 2 rings, whats the third item in Npx you want there? I could run NPX all day, its such an boring layout dungeon

daring marlin
#

Griff(Matt)

#

the lad

undone beacon
#

nicknamed revoked you're griff again

chilly brook
#

like none of my characters are Griff except for my Evoker and a paladin that I never play

undone beacon
#

all my characters are pash peepo

#

except for my gnome knight Squmpus

#

he's my undercover char

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
#

i miss RB spam slayer ngl

drowsy comet
#

Thats 4 items technically, no? Do you go for the full ring set or just one?

lusty grotto
#

i have one ring already

daring marlin
#

Warrior too many buttons for me. Plus, I gashed the top of my thumb on metal the other day and I think I'd lose my mind if I were playing Warrior atm.

#

dumb and old

undone beacon
#

play surv hunter its like three buttons

#

its great

#

kill command, bomb, swipe, repeat

#

takedown and boomstick sometimes

chilly brook
#

boomstick lots of times

#

in aoe anyways

lusty grotto
#

kaboom

dusky canopy
undone beacon
#

true. big shotgun andy

daring marlin
daring marlin
#

It's great

undone beacon
#

yeah but ret doesnt have a shotgun

lusty grotto
#

same

chilly brook
#

feels like ass