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defensive stance does not help with holding aggro or taking aggro?
Magic dot is a pain in the arse
d stance is purely a DR
we need gladiator stance back
i love this silly spec i take less damage than some dps in raid at times
defensive stance does not matter for agro
tank spec does
thats it
defensive stance is not necessary for doing m+ in the first place
thats not what the bug is
Ironically, you technically generate less threat in defensive stance, due to dealing less damage
you cannot get healed when the stances bug
Defensive stance is less aggro
well... less dmg less agro
well sure, its slightly less damage
the deal less damage was removes ages ago
Yes
but when people say stances are linked to agro they mean modifiers
But also. It’s less aggro
sure
it reverts to def stance every time you log out btw
yes but berserker stance does more damage
just not worth considering
the dps/agro gain means absolutely jack shit
the dps gain means more for raid parsing, thats it
but again what Lord Kazuya is replying to is the stances bug
it turns you unhealable
literally
realistically I would only maybe use battle* stance on saladbar and vora
I do
Also, the dps gain from battle stance is so minuscule that losing 20% damage reduction is almost never worth the trade in anything above a 10, imo
it didnt for me lol
💯
Stance dancing is mostly for raids if you want to tryhard parse.
I’ll take your word for it. I haven’t ever looked at the threat calculation math. I’m sure it’s negligible like you said. Just trying to be accurate
Stance mastery would get higher value in higher keys huh
what threat calculation
Aggro has to be calculated by some formula. I don’t know it
I calculate aggro by pressing tclap on pull
u dont generate more threat in def stance right thats some classic thing lol
all damage we deal is multiplied by 950% threat mod, thats it - it does not matter which stance you are in
if you hit a taunt ability the debuff it leavs will cause your spells to generate 800% aditionall threat
holy fuck its up to 950 now??
Quick question for a beef boys, do we still hit execute now or nah. Heard it got nerfed and can't check because wowhead blocked at work :/
during the taunt debuff window yes
only as Thane and only in pure ST
Ty
It's your spender in ST if you don't need it for IP
👍
IP has nothing to do with it, you can do both
Fair, I get so used to just weaving IP between gcds that I don't even think about rage management most of the time
blushes cutely you mean it?
💪 thanks
do you do this pull aswell? im talking about pull 10. any idea why people take so much damage here? the tooltips on both voidbenders and destroyers suggest that there is only avoidable damage to the party in this pull, and yet folks are taking lots of damage and im pretty sure they arent standing in frontal or circles
Destroyers put a circle on people that leaves a massive DoT
ah the circles do unavoidable dmg when they spawn?
Can someone point me to a good mythic+ talent build or resource I seem to be missing something and having a hard time in 9 keys even with 255 ilvl
After the circles blow up, they leave a DoT, but it's all unavoidable
Show us your build.

I’m sadly out of the house I prolly should have waited to ask till I got home my bad
i used to go to the right side, pulling 1 destroyer up to the two conjurers but that seemed way harder. plus if people walked into the tentacle it was an instant wipe
center seems safer yet people are still struggling
Are you playing Into the Fray or Heavy Repercussions?
I did just copy paste the method.gg mythic+
What’s your toon name?
Slimetrail
This is what I normally do. My healer said the damage intake is normally perfectly fine, provided your DH doesn't backflip into another pack on accident. Your pull looks like it should be fine as well
rip
Is the bug permanent or is there some way to reset it?
What is the bug, and how does it happen?
nobody knows how it happens
it just removes stances
you become hostile
and not just stances, it clears food
and you dont receive lust
it also clears beacon or anything on you
it only happens in "seasonal" content from my testing
anything heroic and below that i queue into nothing happens
damn they really want people to reroll brew
but i go into a delve, raid or an m+
ahem
instant clear
😵
this happens to all tanks, not just us
btw
even brew
if you are doing 3 pulls here you can just to do this as your 2nd pull instead no? its more cleavable, gives more count, and will likely die faster
i mean like this
if you are doing 3 pulls here instead of 2
im not sure how much it was tied to it but at same time healer was saying i was un-targetable
yes you literally become hostile
That's probably a better pull. My group cooked this route a few days into the season, and haven't done a seat since like, Reset this week, so we never looked back over it. I'll probably adjust to that
even if you are same faction
Yessir
did you restart your game?
of course lol
like they said, you become hostile or neutral
just be aware that if you tank a key
there is a chance it happens to you
i would avoid playing tank for now
nah
i havent had it happen
most of the regulars here have not had it happen, except yogi
i checked the video and i ht mega taunt as running down but no clap, then on the frame the healered procced i assume its cheat death because i went to 1 hp, i lose the defensive stance
Just take the one from faq. The point from Bloodborne can be put into Bloodsurge or NSV.
my theory is or was with the cross faction and it say alliance and horde and no input for aggro
@vocal harness
you just havent gotten it yet
also it was the same for me
doesnt matter, i'll still play tank
its not the worse talent tree ive seen
everything was completely fine up until last night
Yessir
no reason to do fear mongering
I havent done my warrior since i heard about it but it’ll be whatever
how is it fearmongering to tell people there is a gamebreaking bug going around
Have faith 
i have the log of it
because you said
i would avoid playing tank for now
we know about the bug already
but yes its good to tell people
but telling people not to play tank is just going too far
FOR NOW
alll we can do is grin and bear it
and try to avoid the bear along the path
thats why i specified for now but sure i can see why you'd take it that way
thats gone crazy and is attacking folks, eventually the rangers will come out and take care of it
not fearmongering though, just trying to let people know there isn't some workaround, you do run the risk of your character being bricked
Yo guys, new warrior tank question…
Do you still block with your shield while pulling mobs together if you hit from behind?
Occasionally I noticed damage spikes doing it but wasn’t sure if some of the nuances for warrior. Always tanked on a Monk before
do not get hit in back ever if possible
Dont want to be hit in the back as any tank
i still get flamed for it
mobs should always be in front of you
**NEVER **turn your back to a mob
Block/parry/dodge dont work
You die really fast if you take backshots
really fast? more like instant
In 2s no
Depending on key level
And stagger don’t work from the back if I member
Pull the pack and have them in front of you, but have the next pack on your left/right, and charge that way. Almost 0 chance you'll catch backshots
lol thanks for the answers. I know being crit is long gone but did notice a few spikes.
Stagger in never had a problem with rolling around
i got the 1188 haste
but i bet i will get no haste item in the vault and soon that will not be an option anymore and i will be back to HR
this is an important post
do not do what i just did
see how i got my ass smacked?
why is that a problem
it's not a problem
you run sideways or to the front
it was just a fun goal
Backpaddling is slow
you shouldnt worry about hitting the 1188 thing
sideways walking will still get you not hit from behind but able to run at max speed
ur shield block fell off, that hurted more than a few mobs in the back
it's good for repositioning if you cant charge/jump
we should add the additional qualifier to that list of "should i use ITF or not" the following
Did i gimp my other secondaries to get that 1188 haste? i have it but i have 22 mastery, 47 crit and 104 versa
Rolling through a pack ?
related: when we say 1188 haste unbuffed, we mean without haste flask?
stupid question but eant to be sure
i was wondering this the other day
ideally
i had the same question
what they mean by 1188 haste truly, is when you have more of the other stats too, to boost it
and yes, unbufed, so no food buff or flask
Sort of, but if the new pack is 90 degress to your right, or 89, I guess, the old pack will be 89 degrees to your left when you start charging, which is still 'in front'
Yeah rolling through or away from a pack never had issues then even running a bit after but I’m assuming the distance was out of melee or dodge works different than block
oopsie daisy. ive been playing it without enough haste
is backshots a perfect 180 divide between front and back
like i said, if you were managing SB correctly you're good
no gaps = youre fine
I believe so, but I am not that deep intot he knowledge of the game to confirm
yes
everything infront of you, you can block, if its blockable
same goes for parry and dodge
seems kinda impossible to line packs up so that every charge is at a nice right angle
And this 1188 Haste convo, is this our goal unbuffed?
at that point it's easier to just walk between packs if ur chaining
No I just checked, monks stagger from the back, it’s just dodge/parry/block
If you can charge without turning your character, they are in front of you
No need to 'line it up'
its whats required for you to talent Into The Fray, if you do not have that you talent Heavy Repercussions
not necessarily, no? if i break out the pythagorean triples then there's lots of positions you can be in where you can charge without turning they'll result in your back being turned to your current pack
Do monks actually reduce the dmg by staggering or just smoothen the intake?
Stagger doesn’t reduce dmg, it’s the purifying that reduce dmg taken
Stagger = the hit is a dot on 10 sec
I see what you're saying, and I dunno how to explain how I do it, tbh. It's all vibes for me. I also just know that there are some packs you just don't charge
I understand what stagger is
like if ur pulling the hallways in magisters, u just don't charge
I was wondering if they really take less dmg than we do
instant backshots
Because we actually reduce the dmg by blocking by a huge amount
and not delay it to another point in time
The talent bob and weave which adds stagger 2 sec doesn’t decrease dmg taken but it make the dot tick on more sec, usually it is a talent suggested for new brews
Anyone paying attention to the race?
i don't see race
They are close to kill p4
oh that race
Echo or Liquid
Écho rn
Has liquid even started yet
Soon I guess
14% isnt close
who is their sponsor?
I'm shocked liquid isn't in there yet
i'll vote for whoever has the less dicky company behind them
In a phase with a gazillion dmg amp it is close
liquid is PST Rhino
It's like after 9:30 PST
they will be in soon
They already saw p4 multiples times yesterday, they will catch up quick if they are consistent
They extended until 2 am their time
i wonder what their families say to them playing on the complete easter weekend lol
It is easter in the us too right?
We use the same calendar as US yes
Yep
yea, the race is coming down to who can get to p4 the most
US doesn't think of Easter probably the same way it does Thanksgiving or Christmas
Echo is close, but damn is it hard to get into P4
and you need the whole raid alive going into it
p4 is like an ozumat phase?
Eh, Easter is a decently large family holiday, but p much only for families with kids
Everyone dealing crazy dps but you have really limited time?
she takes increased damage, the more people in the light the more extra damage you do (I think)
Well all the people around me, in the US, don't really see Easter the same way they do Thanksgiving or Christmas
I’ve heard that too
so one more time of give it your all
basically
do they save lust for p4?
but getting through p3 was already that XD
or is it needed before
IDK tbh
I think they need lust in p3?
but, I thought they should maybe try to lust pull and get a second lust
since all the damage adds up
Is the fight that long?
I think so?
i mean if they get an increased dmg buff in p4 it will scale heavily with lust for sure
true, but they may need lust in p3 to just get through p3
this fight really has no breaks
maybe p2 is a slight break
I don’t think they can do p3 without lust
boss aint goin down today will need to be nerfed to kill her
is the campaign sending you into story mode march like they did in voidspire?
And I don’t think they need a lot of ppl alive for long time in p4 to kill it
if neither guild kills today, Echo will have some time before reset
but if Liquid gets a reset
you guys were talking about using charge
they win
nerf inc for liquid never fails
THIS SHIT happened to me the otherday
will hit any moment now prob
i was like what in the hell
naw, I think blizz is loving this
the RWF guilds shitting on their raid calling it too easy
so they turbo buff it and say 'are you not entertained?'
What would you recommend to craft besides weapons?
I bet the devs were cackling when Max thought they got it
and the secret phase came
he was so confident there wouldnt be one
He was still kinda stunlock at the end of their raid
i think at this point they should add in a 5th phase one week only attempt
for full BiS, bracers and cloak are your best embellished pieces
done already, got 2 sparks
since they have the lowest stat budget
you have 7 days from tuesday to kil the 5th a nd final ultra secret form
but it may not be applicable right now
That's the end goal indeed,if you have mythic shield/weapon.
Final crafts when ur making bis list not when ur trying to get best upgrades in interim
if you dont have easy access to lots of the mythic items
do we prio the rings from Nexus point/
for the set bonus?
the stats on those are also pretty good for us to
We all want l'ura's ring
wowhead says boots for some reason
i am
don't we
we dont monitor wowhead
sir youve been here long enough, icy veins
Are you gonna kill Lura on mythic ?
we go icy veins? since when
Isnt it going to be in the vault?
Since nomeriayoe left us
.......................................................
You need to kill it
Or you mean dungeon Lura
i got allerias neck without killing her
Do we have infos on the Tank heal bug? Would be nice to be able to play the game...
for real
no, we just know it exists, but we cant reproduce it
most regulars here havent had it happen
In your vault ?
What's tank heal bug
i got alleria neck on heroic and only killed her in story mode
whistle to my self
except yogi
No from a delve treasure map i think
Good for them, but i am not able to run a single key because of that since yesterday morning
it was in a delve for sure
god forbid someone asks a question, tsk tsk
youve been here consistently enough to know the answer
What is the tank heal bug
click my log pepega
Are you sure it’s not just the cache which gave you a champion raid item ?
not on that page, but, for the he stance loss
I can't complete the quest inside the delve can i?
Is it when ur healer has bug in brian and doesnt heal good? I've run into that a bunch
How many of us have had the bug happen? Like 3?
Tanks becoming unhealable.
tanks that cant be healed all of a sudden, had it happen twice
Mid pull the tank becomes unfriendly and can't receive any heal and untargetable for the rest of the team. If u use Rally they dont get the buff....
Even if so, it is still a drop from a boss i hadnt even seen
Can the tank attack the DPS?
But not in myth track
and it was heroic
Ohh I havent experienced that.
im on stike personally
No but they are not able to cast anything on the tank or the tank anything on them
What is the workaround to fix the unhealable bug?
Log out
It was a heroic neck
Don’t log back in
for me its dont play the game till they change it
Tried to unequip all gear and reequip but that doesnt help. Relog helps until the next pull starts
dude with that amount of haste idc if the l'ura ring is heroic or myth track tbh
either die or wait for the bug to happen again and re-apply defensive stance
refund if it lasts for over 90 days
Especially if it pushes you over the itf edge
Yes you care, if it’s not myth track, any other myth track neck is likely better
It's a ring isnt it?
Talking about alleria neck
raid lura or dungeon lura
doesnt that also have two sockets?
raid
It is both a ring and a neck
engineering win 😄
ah yea the neck is insane, but get it first before you judge 👀
the point being that a raid drop from alleria was able to get to me on heroic without me killing her
Heavy Mastery/haste neck
100% haste ring
the ring is also just insane
so i presume the same might happen with the ring from raid l'ura
In a +12 mt I did feel like i wasn't getting healed for mobs before last boss up to the boss itself. The healer only spoke Spanish so I didnt understand what he was saying but I complained o wasn't getting healed.. we did finish the dungeon though I just had to use some self heals if I recall + the ret paladin was wogging me.
or get a raid item from the quel danas chest aka for the TW Raid quest
That is a cata item
unless the ring is mythic, you will replace it
you cannot get mythic lura loot on any event reward
the only way is to kill mythic lura
or any mythic boss for that matter
yeah probably
vault doesnt give you raid loot?
if you dont raid? no
or just from bosses you killed
from bosses youve killed, yes
The big heal absorb mobs?
but it doesnt matter, if you do not raid mythic, you will replace anything you get because it'll be at best hero track
But that rule only applies to myth track?
to all tracks
No, i got alnseer
no, from the chest that you get from the quest, you have a chance of getting a raid item. I know that cuz my druid got the Alleria trinket, only champion but still. Rhino was arguing with me if its BiS or not
and i didnt even see the boss once
from the TWW chest, you get normal (champion) raid loot
Its the purple mobs going up that spiral staircase + 2 packs before boss. I actually dont know if there is an absorb i just get aggro and push buttons
Ahh. Big heal absorb mobs at the top of that spiral. Before the final ramp
Those ones I pull in two packs
I think if DPS stacks on you, the absorb is spread and really hard to heal
so you can't get a myth track raid item in the 2nd row of the vault even if you killed the bosses on myth and pushed the dungeon vault up to myth track?
bro what
how is this so hard to explain
IF YOU KILL THE MYTH BOSSES IN RAID, you will get myth loot
If you kill the raid bosses on mythic, you get mythic loot from vault
Looking forward to making my alnseer trinket max ilvl with voidforge
I don’t think any of us are raiding mythic
Guys i know
lol
Ohh. What is the range on that? Bc how else can melee do damage
It’s annoyingly large
but you can get myth loot from doing myth+ can you not?
in the vault
Only from m+ loot pool
IF YOU DO NOT KILL THE BOSSES IN RAID, the only way to get raid loot is via Timewalking or Dungeon event rewards
not from the raid
what guilford said
calm down ladies, holy
okay so how on earth was i able to get the alleria neck while being inside a fucking delve
the capslock must have been a fatfinger then
the caps are emphasis
this
From what quests do you get raid loot?
timewalk and?
very chill sir
that is funny because
This guy is showing me up. Nobody is gonna out pepega me! The earth is flat!
the Timewalking chest reward is Normal (champion track) loot
the Dungeon event reward is Heroic (hero track) loot
The kill 5 tw dungeons or raid bosses
there has also been the delve event for one raid piece but that doesnt change the basic explanation of how it works.
i know what you said nim
then why are you asking
I am just not understanding how i have a heroic alleria neck
you are my favorite
the pvp quest?
show proof of neck or it didnt happen
you got me, i'm making shit up
Idk how confirmed it is but when the “turbo boost” event comes you’ll get tokens/coins you can roll for mythic loot from either completing m+ or killing a mythic raid boss. Still requires raid kills for raid loot though


hm the 4/4 bg thing?
just finished a 13 with this new route, went very smooth. only issues were a couple of deaths in pull 9 and one death in pull 2. think someone dies in pull 4 but because they stood in bad
i'll check what i have done and try to investigate
AFAIK the only source of mythic loot is in vault by doing m+ and by doing myth raid. Nothing else matters bc its not myth and heroic easily obtainable through various sources
There it is
If you’re stacked, people will be hurting
4 yards to not get it.. or just do enough damage for it to not matter
No one says you get myth loot everywhere, i was just doubting you need to kill a certain boss to get his loot if the difficulty fits
because i got heroic alleria neck without ever killing her in a raid
What bosses have you killed
In vault or from a quest?
or alnseer trinket without even meeting chimaerus once
Chimaeris is technically above alleria
Dude is just ragebaiting cmon y'all

Gobbling up the bait
I have a mythic loot from luna
I didn't get baited
he's a master baiter
Alnseer was from a quest iirc
I got a mythic trinket off L’ura and I’ve done nothing above normal haha
definitely not vault
I actually didn't realize the jungle bird was higher than alleria, though
I am L'ura
Zug harder and life is good
I think if a quest gives random heroic item from the raid then it doesnt require you to have killed that boss
I havent logged in during midnight yet but i have full bis 287 ilvl
That would make sense
Ok so what's the problem?
Do you use SB
In raid journal, but im not sure if it gives voidspire credit the same as a late boss in a singular raid
there hasn't been such a quest
correct, the dungeon loot boxes can drop from any raid boss. However no box has been heroic s1 raid loot
Its all been champion
You're a champion
Wholesome
link your armory or youre just baiting
i will
i am making dinner duh
gimme a second
Ohh well if that quest doesnt exist and you didnt touch that boss then yea dont think that can happen
While on your pc?
sure thats why youre typing at your PC
on my phone
full of shit
Nah
nope
lol
youre not on your phone
Guys
we knoww
After the fresh tres leches cake they're making THEN we get the pics
i'm sending a raunchy selfie if you don't stop baiting me
im done with this guy
When you send the pic can you include a little ankle please
lol
Lmao
Just a hint of ankle
Saved in collection
Maybe he found a way to get loot without having to touch boss. Pls share so I can get bis loot without having to touch myth raid
Everyone wants to play
But nobody wants to pay
I think I'm gonna take my daughter to cicis pizza and watch her do crane games
W
If you press the super saiyan button
And also that lightning button
You finish casts so fast and lightning is just goin EVERYWHERE
Oh ya its so satisfying
I really like it
Visually probs my favorite spec
Or class in general
Lmao
Indeed
Like i said im pretty bad at it i think
But
Its cool
And cool wins
Guys I have a dumb question. Please nim don’t yell at me, I’m learning.
Key% parse #s in our logs are not a great metric why?
If I’m doing a 10 at ilvl 260, and parse 50, and then Rhino does a 10 at ilvl 270 and parses 99… I can’t really compare myself to him because ilvl gap right?
It's true
I dont normally choose to play something worse for fun but for ele i do
Key % parse is based on the key level afaik
Like higher key is higher parse
Well first I would do less damage than you
You underestimate my power
So if I parsed higher than you it's probably another bug
Oh?
like execute
key parses are based on points, which is a combination of like 20 metrics. They are not a great metric to use because they arent super clear
Also, parses in general for m+ arent reliable because of the variables involved. Raid is at least more static and consistent
I think key % is like
How beautiful was the key you used
Was it a super elaborate key
Or just like a plane jane key
plain?
whatever i dont write im a rhino
I actually think trying to use logs from dungeons is just so hard
Outside of a couple things
That looks like a phishing email
it is
Pash can you cyber protect us
i'm a nigerian prince
Thanks guys.
Scanned the link with 18 antivirus engines, you're safe
Also that looks like a Normal alleria neck
263 could be champ
okay wait

no
we move on
i got 2 items from vault
doesn't matter, we're done
okay
Wcl m+ doesnt make sense to me. Like 340 on nexus is orange but 341 on caverns is purple
and we answered you, yes you can in the TW chest
Well technically yes, but it's a super low odds type situation to get any specific item you're potentially trying to target
you guys get loot?
ok
bring on the Warrior questions

If we put our shields in our right hands instead of our left hands would we mitigate more or less damage
in my RP, but warrior is left handed
so he has to try super hard to block attacks

What do wcl m+ points mean and what about the color
Quick question gents. Tank friend and I scratching our heads. I know in the past prot has used blood and thunder (I guess it's gone now?) To spread rend in M+. I can't find in wowhead or IV where rend is part of the rota. Does prot manually spread rend now or just not press it anymore? Or are we just missing some new interaction?
Rend is auto applied by TC
BnT is baked in
Take the rend button off your bars
See that's what I thought it could be. I don't play prot just trying to figure it out lol
yeah just read the TC tooltip
Yep. If you have rend talented, it is auto applied by Thunder Clap on up to 5 targets
Thanks 
Huge
Is there anything you see that’s glaringly bad. Don’t mind champion spear because I love it.
Ok follow up question. Does TB apply rend as well or just TC
It does
I used LS as a crutch. Maybe it’s time. Ty
If you want more defensive take bsv instead imo
what should i drop in case i want to go for bsv for safety?
if i'm using the iv thane guide as reference
Bloodsurge or Bloodborne
ty
I've copy pasted the "recommended talents" from archon for a more defensive build that has bsv and more rage stuff when I wanted to use more defensive talents
Dunno for sure if its better but I sure liked having bsv. Like all things its probably a trade off of dps for defensiveness
thats fine
Funny update. Tank friend thought since he never pressed rend, he could take the talent point out of it. Which is why he thought he had to manually apply rend and assumed BnT was gone. (Which it was but just baked into TC now) pepega of the year award goes to


unfortunate
10+ and up
12 gets rid of xal affix and makes it so deaths cost 15 seconds
Okay
Is that unfriendly bug tied to crossfaction grouping spaghetti code, perhaps?
be pretty funny if so
Quick question for the smart pwars out there. What is my Devastator?
Your auto attacks
Ty!
Devastate is a button replaced by the Devastator talent, which makes your autos do more damage and give rage
Which abilities can you use while youre getting cced by using demolish?
Shield Wall, Spell Reflect
You wasted my time 
read the last line pepega...
Literally the talent I clicked right above this one… sheesh.
Ignore pain shield block?
yes
It says "and use certain defensive abilities" but doesnt say which
Rally?
Not a gcd ability
all of them, except demo shout
Is rally considered a defensive?
I consider Shockwave a defensive but that is in the eye of the beholder
Perhaps
I do consider shockwave as my emergency def cd 
Found this on wowhead. Doesn't have rally
Apparently shield charge and defensive heroic leap and charge are defensives byt not self heal or rally
Dragon charge 
Unleash a series of precise and powerful strikes against your target, dealing [(percentOfAttackPower_format, 531.455) + (percentOfAttackPower_format, 531.455) + (percentOfAttackPower_format, 1232.36)] damage to it, and (percentOfAttackPower_format, 1232.36) damage to enemies within 8 yds of it. Deals reduced damage beyond 8 targets.While channel...
yeah the pvp talent
i just imagine what you can do with demolish + dragon charge since it bumps enemies
haha yea
Why are charge and warrior jump considered defensives
I feel it’s more like oGCDs
Ohh it really should be "and use non GCD warrior abilities"
shield charge is oGCD ?
Surprised u can charge
I think it’s a midnight change, you can leap etc without cancelling animation
i haven't actually tried charging
it is on the gcd yeah
Im senile so im too used pressing on it i forgot if it is or not
most players never read tooltips but pepega reads them 700000x to make up for everyone else
Are we switching to Colossus in 0.5 patch? How are we feeling about it?
Dont know, potentially more changes but if it stays like it is then it’s likely
Still a ways off
So if you have both up you should do demolish first to start casting and then while you are casting you can shield charge to avoid getting 2x gcds. Right?
can u even shield charge during demolish
Man I love clapping though. Col will be an adjustment
no, unless you cancel it with jump
was trying to pick a class to tank with. monk feels too meta rn and blood dk seems too rough right now. plus i already have a lvl 85 warrior lol.
what do yall enjoy most about warrior? apparently it cc's well and is pretty survivable while not being too tough is what I've heard?
hells yea haha. I also havent played a tank before and want to learn. I've only ever healed before but I'm looking for a change in pace. got a hpal to 270 ilvl (last time I played was bfa) and feel a bit bored of it now
If you like like hitting people with a shield and yelling a lot, you'll like pwarr. Its very sturdy
If you like self healing, pick a different tank
i like prot war bc brown
Good luck brew
Your arms are ready ?
Oh yeah I’m better at arms than fury
Boss is cooked
Some frogs orange pash
Even one of the battletoads is orange
how dare you
Our hunters are absolute animals they’ll never not get the pi
Id have to actually switch guilds to get pi lmao
I’m just going to proc a guidon in vault and bring my own pi to the 5 min alignment
the day dps war is PI target, war in warcraft will be back
I’d give you pi

today is heroic queldanas and dragons for me
Dragons tonight first, im benched on first dragons kill in favor of other warrior, sad times
For the haste requirement of 1188 unbuffed is that when with max ITF you have 8secs or less SB cd? Or is that when you can overlap SC to attempt to maintain perm uptime?
Quick Q:
Can you intervene + spell reflect to reflect a spell cast on someone else?
i like the raidplan, smartest RL
with max ITF, you still need to SC
does anyone have a guide they're recommend for ui settings that i could import for prot warrior? I'm gonna respec my lvl 84 warrior into that and start doing some timewalking dungeons to 90 to learn
Bro I’m cooked gotta battle two devourers for the add pad on dragons and or possibly a second warrior
Depends what the roster looks like when it any turn next week surely

i am the mass grip point 
Thank you!
Just wait until I give them the shocker and pull up with colossus smash -> demolish and the adds evaporate before the empowered devourer spell

Mandela effect probably
The point still stands, i'll check next weeks vault to see
timewalk raid quest gave heroic cataclysm loot btw
Why do you get benched brew

I'm safe from being benched for now as i am our only priest

We have a 27 person roster so he has to rotate us around
Other warrior has worse gear so he gets the extra vault slot this week
just be raid lead, never get benched
Works every time
We’re actually pretty comparable skill wise but I’d say he has the edge on me when it comes to add pad I’m older and slow
Rip rip
ngl pwarr is fun af with more haste, really enjoying it
Raiding is just pmo, but only once a week
are you not gonna play rdruid anymore?
You found haste somewhere?
full swap or just alt?
W Rhino, priest very fun
My alt is rdruid/boomie for now
Oh yeah I’m gonna come to the next guild hangout with Pash as the other priest with like way more gear and way cooler clothes on
I shadow in raid and have been dabblin with disc in keys
Homie is done for
disc giga fun
I also shadow raid
Honestly shadow is pretty fun
except i did a key this morning in my raid build and had to manually SWP everything
that sucked
Big damage but lame gameplay
Oop
I like being a lazy pos and just doing ST for AoE
How does shadow crash work?
It makes me remember that SL aff lock ST build played in keys
it doesn't
It’s gone
idk, but i think im getting back to fully tanking. I saw what the tank shortage looks like when I played healer, and ppl invite every tank possible lol. Got myself Kira's UI too, yes I subbed to him. Really enjoying it, and being back to ElvUI too, was testing othet UI addons while I played rdruid

we have void tentacle now
ADD PAD
Replaced with tentacle slam, which is the same thing but instant
or tentacle slam or w/e it's called
KILL IT
gud button
fuck that ugly ass UI, but good that youre back tanking, welcome back
I like tendie slap
Live look at shadow priests in keys
no meme I been enjoyin unholy tho
so haste looks like a main stat? are crit and vers tied 2nd after haste? or do you prefer vers for prot warrior?
Yeah not real thrilled that this tier is all about add pad
Is what it is
we prefer crit - but its really up to sims
Heart of wind carries. Rn I have like uhh 600 haste or so, thats like 21% I think. With heart procced, I feel like lightning mcqueen but juicier
(Cam is one)

main stat = agility int or str, secondary = haste and crit versa and mastery, tertiary (3rd tier) = avoidance, speed, leech, indestructible.
Nah I like his UI tbh, the only thing Im not using is Exwindtools, the one that lets you see your party members kicks. I have a feeling this addon gets nuked soon
haha I'm open to learning the class! It seems cool. I just imported some talents from wowhead lol. I'm mountain for raids and m+
windtools doesnt do that, that's mini cc
i use windtools
Exwindtools, not windtools. Check it out on Curseforge. Its a chinese addon
We are icyveins advocates, but the wowhead guide should probably be enough for learning
import talents from Icy Veins
dump wowhead for now
I mean ya, heck wowhead
The only problem I have with death knight is that it doesn’t have charge or mortal strike or cleave or rend or over power or slam or heroic strike or colossus smash or avatar or heroic leap
oh shrug mini cc does it so whatever
I use windtools myself, got some nice qol, like addon mini icons being bordered under the map
Minicc is crazy good yea, but I need to set it up once, dont really feel like I need it anyway
So many non warrior players around here
What happened to us
Priests, death knights, ele shaman, Resto Druids, goodness gracious
Midnight hits and no more tanks
Like we got a bedtime or smth
“Getting good sleep before school”
shut up bro
They should’ve buffed prot warrior more
I wanna do dam for once
Excuse me
bum death knight
Ay i came back from being an imposter 
I wanna level one too so bad ngl. Being literally immortal is fun af
i sell people pi now 
Why u sell pee
We be sleeping around by playing additional classes apparently
the best feeling to me is like when you come into a group, everyone get ready, I always set up foodbuff too, nice lil bonus and when going thru the dungeon, getting a comliment from the healer. I always make sure they have enough mana and if they need to drink, I'll wait 4-5 seconds, thats enough to get a chunk of mana, speaking for myself as a rdruid, they especially burn thru mana

Tank shortage is real
Thats what ive been saying
Want a protip?
And I finally know the route for Pit, the beginning is quite a hussle tbh, especially when you havent checked any route. Imo the easiest dungeon is Skyreach, and then close Id say Algethar after the nerf
Pit is easiest dungeon for me
if the cat says "run your own key" imma go insanse
aight ist time for NPX farm again
The optional pro tip:
||Write 10, instead of 11, you will get more applicants and noone will care once it has started either way.||

this keeps happening to me and lowkey it annoys me
Interesting lol
dont decieve me
i still see so many lonely DPS in +2s hoping someone would join 😭
Genuinely didn't consider that
took one of our DDHs 18 NPX to get their ring
I know, I been around the block a few times
I don't get drops so I made loa ring
I can't be fucked dude
something something I've forgotten more about warrior or some shit
I have a hero crit/haste ring and a champ mast/hast ring and it annoys me
I do not run enough keys for that shit
This happened to me few days ago but the other way around. Wanted to run a +12 Pit on my rdruid, then the guy put in a +4 key. Everyone was so pissed 
well tbf i need:
- shield
- shoulders
- omission
so NPX is good value
I need the mast/hase ring but i dont wanna run more NPX 
I'd throw that key so hard out of spite
Why Nexus specifically?
ring set
for 3 items
The only thing outta M+ i could use is rings really
shoulders would be nice to save a few hero crests but
better to do one dungeon for 3 items than looking for 3 different keys
Rings are the only significant boost because stats n shit
Everyone was like 265 ilvl and above and the key owner was like 260 too. Our tank went crazy and thought the game glitched
That's so funny to me
i'd be jumping right into the pit. of saron.
but idk I just feel like I haven't been enjoying warrior 🙁
I run a +4 with my left booty cheek, I pull biiiiig time and hope it ends fast
Nah he means Pit, a hole

You like Slayer or Colossus more for M+?
imagine being named woahyer and not enjoying woahyer
🤔
Btw besides the 2 rings, whats the third item in Npx you want there? I could run NPX all day, its such an boring layout dungeon
nicknamed revoked you're griff again
i listed them
like none of my characters are Griff except for my Evoker and a paladin that I never play
all my characters are pash 
except for my gnome knight Squmpus
he's my undercover char
I think I enjoy slayer more right now but Colo is still good fun and does bigger overalls
i miss RB spam slayer ngl
Thats 4 items technically, no? Do you go for the full ring set or just one?
i have one ring already
Warrior too many buttons for me. Plus, I gashed the top of my thumb on metal the other day and I think I'd lose my mind if I were playing Warrior atm.
dumb and old
play surv hunter its like three buttons
its great
kill command, bomb, swipe, repeat
takedown and boomstick sometimes
kaboom
Bro ez just play thane and turn brain off while you go

true. big shotgun andy
I press like two buttons on ret
ive played it dw
It's great
yeah but ret doesnt have a shotgun
I fucking HATE Thane Fury
same
feels like ass







