protection

[brittle bluff]

ahh ok, thanks, maybe he misspoke or something then idk, just wanted to make sure 🙂

[fringe mural]

Haste mastery gud if you switch to fury some

[brittle bluff]

i only tank so thats fine

[mighty valley]

prio haste til you can switch to ITF comfortably, then just sim

[coarse bay]

I watched that vid, maybe he prefers mastery for raid since he mainly raid tanks. It also lacking haste is a big negative

[mighty valley]

maybe it was a big crit ring, which is kind of a big loss of haste

[tribal wharf]

hes speaking about this item

[fringe mural]

Yeah that item is not good

[tribal wharf]

crit vers item is like giga ass for warrior lol

[coarse bay]

Ya i mean itd sit in my bags over any haste ring

[tribal wharf]

youd use it if you had to

[mighty valley]

oh yeah, missing that much haste on a high secondary budget item like a ring does kinda suck

[tribal wharf]

but you really wouldnt wnat to

[ashen shale]

Warrior is kind of nice because u can legit switch between all 3 specs as long as you have some spear pieces for each spec

[brittle bluff]

ahh i see, that makes sense yeah

[mighty valley]

you'd still take it if it was a big ilvl increase and nothing else in the vault was good but

you're gonna replace that eventually

[tribal wharf]

still 220 crit with 50 speed

holy crap on a stick

[coarse bay]

Itd be crest save in my bags

Sadge

I got lucky myself so maybe im better than dratnos

[sick shell]

is vers below mastery for prot now?

[tribal wharf]

i did 3 hero craft crests so i'm "behind"

as if that even matters

eventually will get myth craft

[coarse bay]

Vers and mastery hold the same value, and that value is sim

[tribal wharf]

you need all equally

not equally, but

bigger number better

[sick shell]

metzen wishes they named it simcraft because warcraft is too intimidating

[tribal wharf]

better than versa craft

[arctic finch]

i am failing to see where tf do i get another 2 points to play my apex talents , any ideas

[mighty valley]

bsv and indom if you're doing comfy keys

bloodsurge and tough as nails if you wanna give up damage for survival

or mix and match

[arctic finch]

indom is so good tho 13% of your healing, even more on single target

and tough as nails does more dmg than 1 point in the apex

[mighty valley]

final apex is a flat 5% dr to everything basically

[lament osprey]

Last point is dealers choice

[mighty valley]

indom is decent now but % of your self-healing is a pretty meaningless stat, we're more of a mitigation tank than a sustain tank

[arctic finch]

sure it is but what do u drop

[mighty valley]

i just gave you some options and you said no lol

[mint wave]

Hello, does anyone know actual retail block formula? I just changed 237 shield to 263 and difference is massive

[arctic finch]

why not drop violent outburst @mighty valley

instead of indom

[mint wave]

Always thought that block ilvl differ damage ny not SO much

[mighty valley]

violent outburst is strong, big part of our rage cycling feedback loop

• free IPs for additional survival

[toxic pewter]

no way giving up armor specialization for fight through the flames i'd never do that

[mighty valley]

you mean shield spec

but yes, still bonkers

[toxic pewter]

nah he wants to swap the talents toward the top

and shield spec i would never drop either of course

[mighty valley]

oh i thought it was just circling fttf

[toxic pewter]

oh maybe I misinterpreted it

if thats the case- my mistake

[mighty valley]

i've seen some tanks take fttf over armor on some specific raid fights

which could make sense if the phys damage is just a non issue, but

idk

[toxic pewter]

meh I dont want to lose any strength

but alas I suppose I would consider it

[lament osprey]

You have the option to take or not

Just preference imo

[toxic pewter]

for me i lose 12 str swapping to fttf I guess not huge loss

about 37.5% of the 32 str gem

[lament osprey]

Magic defensive idk, I’m warrior I hope it works lol

[sullen latch]

At what point does thunderclap and revenge trump shield slam in aoe? Just from reading the numbers it should be 2 enemies and up, but all guides say differently. What am I missing here?

[karmic plinth]

u never prio anything over shield slam

[sinful copper]

Revenge is insanely low on our list of things to press right?

[sullen latch]

Yea but

It does more dmg

Why is it worse to press that

If I’m not struggling to survive

[mighty valley]

generating and spending rage is hugely powerful for everything about how the spec works

ss generates most of your rage

[karmic plinth]

phalanx + its more damage to have more rage to spend because you are shield slamming more

[mighty valley]

(also these days a lot of your SS hits have a phalanx proc too)

on large packs that won't last very long you can drop ss to maximize short-term dps but... those packs don't come up much and aren't very important lol

[sullen latch]

So it’s always ss on cooldown and fish for resets with thunderclap then

[forest lagoon]

You always press Thunder Blast if it is up.

You always press Shield Slam if it's to proc Thunder Blast.

You always press Thunder Clap if it's up and Shield Slam is on CD to proc Shield Slam.

You press Revenge if you have the rage and none of the above buttons to press to fish for Shield Slam resets

[mighty valley]

yep that's basically it

[sullen latch]

Thanks gang

[sinful copper]

Last season, u could get away with just removing revenge from your bars because everything was higher prio. Not sure if it's still the case

[karmic plinth]

genuinely forgot the hero talent interactions too

[mighty valley]

the prio hasn't changed, we just got so many thunder blast procs that there was rarely a spare gcd for revenge

they still came up though, truly removing revenge was a step too far lol

[sullen latch]

I have another question: why is it good to macro ignore pain to shieldslam? What am I missing if I don’t do this thing?

[mighty valley]

it's not crucial, and it's macroing shield slam into ignore pain

subtly different lol

the idea is that it snipes some SS resets that your brain isn't quite fast enough to catch

your brain has locked into pressing tc or revenge, and as your finger is on its way, devastate resets SS, and you happen to press IP

ding, your IP macro catches the SS

but yeah, takes a little finesse and is a pretty small optimization

wouldn't worry about it

[fast marsh]

Im having some trouble doing the bigger pulls on M+ 12 and 13 with 668 ilvl. It seems im always on the backfoot during those pulls

[stoic hound]

with that macro you rarely press SS on its own? just throught spamming the macro button?

[pastel geyser]

crazy ilvl u have there

[mighty valley]

no, you still have a separate SS bind

[glacial lynx]

no its in place of ignore pain not in place of SS

[fast marsh]

And what is the SS macro?

[sullen latch]

Getting backshots maybe?

[fast marsh]

I will try to pay more attention, but i try to keep IP and SB up and use SW during those pulls and it seems i always have trouble sustaining through it

I saw a monk tanking and barelly having its hp moving a +16 and im starting to doubt myself

[sullen latch]

Healthpot, hearthstone, stuns, the fear talent, rallying cry

But remember we aren’t monks

[sullen latch]

That’s just monk

[fast marsh]

I think i have to use intimidating shout more often

i still have vanilla brain of fear = bad

[tribal wharf]

boys

[toxic pewter]

I am more tanky than monk

I will outlast a monk

[pastel geyser]

might be ur shield is lower ilvl?

[sullen latch]

John tank

[mighty valley]

the answers in big pulls are usually some combination of backshots during gathering, mechanics going off/being missed, or letting your rotation fall off while your brain is overloaded

[pastel geyser]

u playing more defensive-ish talents?

[fast marsh]

its the 3/6 heroic (663?)

[pastel geyser]

663??

[mighty valley]

but it depends on the pull, logs or a video would help

[pastel geyser]

goddamn

[toxic pewter]

just craft a myth crest shield yolo

[pastel geyser]

u should be swimming

[forest lagoon]

It's very important to prepare for a big pull before you start gathering. I always use Shield Wall just after I start gathering to protect myself. Then once I'm almost done gathering and all the mobs are in range I use Demo shout. Then I turn around and plant and blow Avatar and immediately start going to town with the Thunder Blasts. That will get you set up very well

[coarse bay]

I too, do big pulls

Using my shield

[torn gulch]

263 we know what he means if he had 668 he would've soloed all xpac

[pastel geyser]

:D

[toxic pewter]

[fast marsh]

yeah, i hate number prunning and have no wow in this pc lol

[coarse bay]

[toxic pewter]

this man tanks

[sullen latch]

He does big pulls

[coarse bay]

I tank

[sullen latch]

John mythic plus

[coarse bay]

I pull large

[pastel geyser]

ive been somewhat afraid to do big pulls on some dungeons cuz randoms just die to air

[toxic pewter]

ngl I am just gonna say it

[fast marsh]

im at a point im avoiding some of the common pulls and doing a 2 pull in 3 pulls just to be safe

[pastel geyser]

was in a random +10 nexus i joined and i was just pulling 2 packs at once and monk healer and dk were just dying too idk what

[glacial lynx]

Maybe your healer is afk

[pastel geyser]

was gonna say

healer actually healing you does help

[coarse bay]

The timers are very free at vault level

[fast marsh]

i mainly play with randos, so i try to optimize my part lol

[tribal wharf]

not a single piece of veteran gear now

[forest lagoon]

Some of the big pulls are just bait. You don't need to do the whole Algethar first pull in one shot especially in a pug

[coarse bay]

You can go pack by pack and time it

[pastel geyser]

ye ik but i wanna do big pulls to do big numbers xd

which i do in most keys

[fast marsh]

im having trouble with nexus first room (the three pack pull)

[sinful copper]

Fewer now in midnight where we're pressing revenge more now? I tanked all 18s in TWW without pressing revenge once because of so many procs (ok maybe like 2-3 presses for the whole dungeon)

[sullen latch]

I regret not being a dwarf bc of Aa first pull

[fast marsh]

and the troll instace first pull (till the first caster)

[pastel geyser]

when i make the grp and make ppl that look like humans and not ai

[mighty valley]

if you didn't have revenge on your bars for those 2-3 presses, you would've BRICKED

[tribal wharf]

im 262 now

[fast marsh]

Nexus first room just shreds me

[pastel geyser]

the ethereals with the healing absorb are quite dangerous

[forest lagoon]

That is a rough one too but doable, don't forget spell reflect. Pretty much have to have rolling defensives for that one

[pastel geyser]

those mobs hurt

[sullen latch]

Man is having a conversation with himself

[mighty valley]

oh so you're meeting yogi

[coarse bay]

[fast marsh]

And ppl hitting stuff b4 you group everything is also annoying on this room

[sullen latch]

Doesnt only apply to this room tho

[pastel geyser]

wait does that pull include 2 lothraxion shades?

[sullen latch]

Pugs are the neuron activation meme

[fast marsh]

I wish hunters binded misdirect more

[pastel geyser]

cuz oof that sounds rough

[forest lagoon]

Ye nothing you can do about dumb DPS unfortunately

[fast marsh]

yeah

im not doing it, because ive died way too many times, but it seems like it is the pug route

[sullen latch]

With lust u should be fine

[tribal wharf]

you must be new here

[sullen latch]

I am yea

[mighty valley]

my wife plays rogue and back when we did m+ together she would unbind tricks just to troll me

[pastel geyser]

idk i just pull left the ethereals and lothry

then i pull right the voids and lothry when i go there

pulling 3 packs there seems overkil

[forest lagoon]

It's probably better just to pull both packs on each side on your way to begin each wing

[mighty valley]

i made her a tricks macro to make it brainless and she locked eyes with me and dragged it off her bar

[pastel geyser]

yea

[tribal wharf]

i dont entirely hate col today

[mighty valley]

i thought you were a col enjoyer

[tribal wharf]

nothing ground breaking really

but its fun

[forest lagoon]

I'm kind of tilted about the MT nerfs but if Demolish makes Col better than MT currently is it could make gameplay more interesting

[narrow prawn]

holy crap they really created an achiev with this name

[gentle spindle]

[fringe mural]

Well they can do acm names for sure

You remember

I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome i am?

that was a great one as well

[gentle spindle]

what u know about that

[tribal wharf]

i wonder what im meant to spend my catalyst on now

nothing that turns into objectively better item

i guess other hero tier slots

[narrow prawn]

I should craft my third item

but idk if i will grab boots or bracers

[tribal wharf]

i went with boring boots

[toxic pewter]

I just made a ring

[pastel geyser]

cdoes anyone know if this counts as an embelishment? it doesnt say anywhere on the item

ah ye it does

[undone beacon]

If it adds an extra effect it’s an embellish

[pastel geyser]

yea ik but theres always weird things

[undone beacon]

Also the item said “midnight recipes for most unembellished items” so

Ya goober

[pastel geyser]

like on this is does say embelish (2)

while for this one it doesnt

[undone beacon]

Blizzard tooltips moment I guess

[pastel geyser]

wondered since it seems like such a nonupgrade ;d

[coarse bay]

Classic bug

[warm plinth]

You're a classic bug

Gottem

[coarse bay]

Gotten

[solid sun]

Too many bugs

[coarse bay]

Please fix warrior bug

[solid sun]

Fixing

Bug.fix<execute>;if(no_damage);then(more_damage);

There

Think we got it

@round pendant Did I do a good code

[coarse bay]

Is this slop

[round pendant]

no

[proud dock]

at this point we are free to spend all heroc crests, right?

[coarse bay]

I mean

You always are

Still not optimal yet for minmax

[proud dock]

ah ok

[solid sun]

[undone beacon]

aw hell i forgot about that and sent crests into this 1/6 hero neck from the pvp quests

time to reroll

[coarse bay]

I mean it isnt a big deal really, i spent hero crests on my vet ring

We outgrow hero in a few weeks

[solid sun]

Guess you have to stop playing priest now pash

Roll bdk

[undone beacon]

yeah time to fuckin die or smthn

[coarse bay]

[solid sun]

I can’t wait to tank keys for cam

[coarse bay]

[balmy narwhal]

For beloren am i missing something? After the intermission, the tank soaks hit very hard with shield wall and sr, and the boss seems to be getting bugf stacks as it kills us during splits soak

And SB always up

[warm plinth]

Strim

[tribal wharf]

is this thing drop crap

i never had it before

[haughty copper]

quick question which missive you use for shield?

[tribal wharf]

haste + choice (critical goes good but whatever really)

[haughty copper]

ty

[solid sun]

Strim what

[warm plinth]

The keys you tank for Cam

[wanton mantle]

small question regarding tanking belo rem

the small add birds that drop in mid fight with oposite matching colors, are we meant to also pull and tank those?, i'm a bit confused as we are suposed to be facing the boss away from the raid in order to do the tank swap dance mechanic

[toxic pewter]

when I killed him we had dk grip them in toward boss for cleave

[lament zealot]

Is Thane doing better DPS than Colossus or is Colossus still higher dps but less survivability?

[paper coral]

Sorry if this was asked, but the upcoming patch changes, do we know how much that will actually affect in terms of thanes damage?

[outer willow]

about to recraft this... would it be crazy to drop the vers and put haste/crit?

I sent it. time to crit on these hoes

[toxic pewter]

not crazy at all

haste crit our best stats pretty much

[severe star]

what the best reagents for a prot back piece

[paper coral]

is this prot paladin (outside of wings) levels of low damage? cause prot paladin fuckin hurts

[fluid widget]

any recommendations for picking up the adds on phoenix boss?

have been worried about using taunt with swap and no dks in raid

[toxic pewter]

can anyone explain to me how the bleed mobs work in skyreach

like is there a way to not get the bleed

[arctic hearth]

Kiting helps

[mighty valley]

it has a very short duration

so you can aoe stun or just move away until stacks reset

[tribal wharf]

Because of the stuin on the monsters near those

i would be careful about trying to combine that pull

[toxic pewter]

yep

[unreal sequoia]

Is healing buff or a stat buff better in

AA?

[narrow prawn]

seems a good idea to join this group

[toxic pewter]

they def need shout

[torn gulch]

where is the survival hunter

might as well have all of them

[daring marlin]

Keep getting nexus point keys

lmao

[tribal wharf]

There is healing buff in aa?

Gold gives haste and i want to say gren is versa

And my pont us a always assume or assumed, 4 secondaries, 4 nocs, each has own secondary stat buff

Unless the is 5and does work way I said

[undone beacon]

cranker team right there

[tribal wharf]

No brez

One tiny mistake key us bricked

But a pro is they got 3 immunity spells

[wary gyro]

just get engi brezes

[gentle acorn]

Green is healing taken.

[gentle acorn]

Stats

[unkempt acorn]

Should play warrior if I’m dogshit at spell reflect?

[haughty copper]

it is better Berserker's rage or Acuity of the Ren'dorei, i've seen people using both?

[toxic pewter]

I just went rendorei str is solid and I prefer my secondary stats to be more static if i can help it personally just like it that way

especially haste cuz rather just stay at the 1188 number and remain at that amount rather than random haste procs i cant really rely on

[fluid widget]

is anyone lagging like crazy in Belo'ren?

[fallen hornet]

i saw the other day someone saying we drop into the fray at a certain haste point. if we do what do i sawp to and what is that haste #

[fluid widget]

1180

[solid sun]

Well

If you mean we don’t use itf

We don’t drop itf at 1180

We start using it

Low haste means heavy repercussions

Which is the other talent it shares a node with

[plush tendon]

ITF gains giga value the more haste you have

since the bonus haste from it isnt affected by diminishing returns

[outer willow]

Is there something going on with frost mage’s elemental? 4 dungeons, each one had a frost mage. Their elementals are just randomly gathering adds

[plush tendon]

I thought frost mages sack their ele?

[outer willow]

Not from what I’ve witnessed tonight. It was 3 different mages too

It was wild man

[plush tendon]

lol

they are supposed to in M+ I think

havnt seen a frost elemental in a minute

[outer willow]

I wasn’t even mad near the end. I just watched the elemental closely

[hazy bronze]

They do

[novel temple]

is it really easy to cap relic coffer shards or something now?

[cerulean crystal]

Dropping to 1 in apex actually felt so good

At least in m+ 10+ keys

[rotund parcel]

whirling blade vs ravager, ive been using whirling for this tier but used to run ravager because i liked picking where it went but whirling seemed to be nice at the beginning of midnight

I dont particularly like that i cant place it anymore but have to target it.

[fringe mural]

with rares and treasures it's very easy, no idea about other sources

and those are all over the place

[fathom meteor]

so do we get a max of 8 catalyst things or do we get unlimited and can only hold 8

[sullen latch]

I think it’s the latter actually but don’t quote me on that

[fringe mural]

when do you start getting those, with 80?

or once you turn 80 you start seeing them

so can you grab 2 tier sets if you level now

[fathom meteor]

with 4 set

[fringe mural]

?

i could transform a regular item into tier right off the bat

[jagged pier]

Nk

No*

[fringe mural]

without having anything before

[jagged pier]

U need to have got 4 set

[fringe mural]

i did it

no

i did not have any 4 set

i just went to the forge

[jagged pier]

Yer u get 1 every 2 weeks

And 1 from 2k score

But u shouldnt send them until u have 1 piece of tier

Because then u can guarentee that u will get 4 set

[fringe mural]

ah

[jagged pier]

U cannot get them as drops

Until u have gotten 4 set

[fringe mural]

and then they start dropping at raid bosses?

[jagged pier]

Raid bosses m+ probably delves and prey to

[fringe mural]

ah k

[jagged pier]

World boss i guess maybe

[fringe mural]

world boss was great again

cloth pants

awesome

[rigid relic]

ravager is useless...

[jagged pier]

Your forgetting the rage gain, the fact if u have whirling blade u can also have 2 up so even more rage and that when its up it increases the damage of other things. Plus this whirling blade too its hasted so can give u even more rage cause u get more ticks

Not everything is about damage

Per cast

[fringe mural]

also 2% isnt useless

for 1 talent point

imo

[pallid quiver]

Is it still the case that whirling blade also gives more ravager over time as well? Which would bump up the damage reported by Ravager specifically in breakdowns. I haven't kept up with tuning due to not playing.

Also, if you're using manual ravager or are just pulling smaller in general, it'll likely show up lower on the chart than if you pull bigger, since it can hit multiple targets

[urban bane]

MUSELESS

[humble mason]

Are we set on what our best embellishments are? Methods website says either devouring banding or darkmoon sigil void, but I want to be certain before I switch over to void from banding

[midnight pivot]

Where the mega threat on the mountain thane nerf to prot we are just going to let this crap slide??

[jagged pier]

I mean its not a mega nerf

And if u dont like it go to the bliz forums thats the only place they will read feedback

[fringe mural]

isnt it like a longer cooldown on tb and that's basically it

and a minor dps decrease for tb

it's not cool, but it's not the end of the world either

it just doesnt really make sense to do it

[jagged pier]

I mean its less rage

Shorter avatars because we extend avatar with tb

I think its about a 3-5% decrease for no reason

Im more angry about the flow, like reduce the damage of tb and keeo the cdr the same

I'd be happier if its that

[frosty mango]

It doesn’t make sense because they nerfed the entire hero talent, prot and fury both

There’s no rationale behind the change

[naive ravine]

I just got back into wow and I see they changed mortal wound on prot

[midnight pivot]

I've been on the forum and I have posted but this is not the right path for prot warrior at all we are far from the best tank being okay with a unnecessary nerf feels bad from a community standpoint less rage will always feel worse in the long run as you push higher content

[cerulean tusk]

They are just helping to move other tanks closer to BDK

It is all good game balancing

[midnight pivot]

No it ain't have you seen a monk?

[cerulean tusk]

Nop

[fringe mural]

Do we somewhere have survivability stats? Like which tank actually takes what percentage of the dmg?

[shy stream]

I can't decide between Dwarf and Dark Iron Dwarf. Everything online I can find says Dwarf, but I want to understand why not dark iron dwarf.
Their ability also removes bleeds etc but gives a ton of strength instead of 10% DR
They take less physical damage
Faster in dungeons

I dont think I care about the Dwarf frost resist or more Archaeological finds. Is their crit damage bonus and healing that good to justify taking 2 useless racial passives?

[fringe mural]

i think smoother dmg intake is a major issue because most healers just arent that quick

not really about the amount, more about the pace

i guess that's why healers love brew so much

dmg comes in smoothely because of staggering

even if it's more in the end

[young oasis]

Guys, I already crafted 285 weapon and now I got mythic track weapoin in my vault. When I try to upgrade weapon from vault, it require mythic crests, full amount. That is bug or what? Before, If I had crafted mythic item, it didnt required crests until level it was.

[torn gulch]

that is a bug

if you have a 285 weapon crafted the vault weapon should take 20 crests to upgrade it to 289

[young oasis]

it require 80 for me

[torn gulch]

you don't have a 285 shield

[young oasis]

no

[torn gulch]

that is why

[young oasis]

so it work for both slots

[torn gulch]

you need both slots

[young oasis]

ok

[torn gulch]

at 285 as far as i know

i might be wrong

you had 276 weapon and shield before?

[young oasis]

yep

[torn gulch]

that's why it asks for 80 and not 100

what is your shield?

ilvl

276?

craft the shield

at 285

you have 6 sparks now available

unless you play dps specs as well

you can send 3 crafts and you have the myth cap for that as well

[fringe mural]

Oh so once you have myth track on one slot complete

You only pay gold

for every other item in that slot

that's actually a decent system

[pastel geyser]

yea no more shitstones

finally

[compact rune]

is it just me or is execute so weak now? with the correct proc lineup my shield slam is critting for 150k+, but im pretty sure regardless of procs or anything, execute only seems to hit for about 18k. feels like pressing literally anything else including revenge is more worthwhile

[mild river]

That's my feeling too but i don't have numbers to back it up

[compact rune]

im just going off scrolling combat text numbers, not looked at logs coz i literally never press execute

[mild river]

Yeah. I might even unbound it lol

How are you guys splitting the last pulls in AA?

[carmine frigate]

Sad

[mild river]

So unnecessary

[sand condor]

I dont get why they are nerfing prot war

And not monk

[lofty warren]

still waiting on blizzard to announce it is april fools joke and that they are sorry for not telling us earlier. to compensate they are changing it to "Storm Surge causes Avatar to increase the damage of Thunder Clap by 100% (was 50%) and reduce its cooldown by 100% (was 50%)."

[pastel geyser]

how cool would 20 sec of spamming only CLAPPA be

[unique axle]

what are they doing to brewmaster?

surely huge nerfs?

[lofty warren]

increasing damage by 25%, increasing purifying brew to remove 100% of stagger

[midnight pivot]

Please post on the forum on the ptr and the warrior class fourm there's very little traction most people are talking about how it's a minor change but this is completely heavy handed nerf

[jagged pier]

Yes as we've known since beta u dont take any of the talents or really press it at all

[fringe mural]

might as well save the hotkey really

hotkeys are valuable

[vale escarp]

Hey Guys, whats the haste breaking point for ITF in m+?

[midnight pivot]

1180

[unique jetty]

following all the rotation and prioritization tips there is no guidance on how to pop cds for big pulls like bl first pulls in AA or SEAT
how do you guys deal with the high amount of dmg coming in and do you pre-send your shield wall while gathering the mobs?
need assistance

[pastel geyser]

haha

popping shield wall when gathering mobs can work, ur bound to get backshots esp if u gather from multiple angles

[unique jetty]

im currently running +15s and am struggling with cd management. I'm spamming Ignore Pain but always seem to run low on rage

[solid sun]

Yeah because we don’t spam IP to live

We hit IP when we are at 70 or more rage

As Roohni said, sending a wall while gathering is pretty common

Then you send a wall when you need it once you’re planted

[unique jetty]

so the 100% uptime mitigation is just Shield Block then?

and dumping rage into IP to prevent overcapping rage? thats the deal?

[solid sun]

Yep

On some of those pulls, like the AA one, you might have to do a little kiting

[pastel geyser]

yes ur active mitigation is shield block, ignore pain is just a bonus basically

[solid sun]

In Seat though, kiting will get you killed because of those champions charging you

You def don’t wanna be getting charged

[midnight pivot]

I'll be honest I haven't seen very many tanks survive a big 1st pull in seat with all 4 of the 1st mob packs pulling 2 then chain pulling the other 2 after HP gets low is working for me on 10+ while I farm for the gloves

[solid sun]

Also the chain debuff in seat can be dispelled by berserker

You can wait for multiple to target you and then berserker it for a combo dispel

You have to be careful using shockwave in giga pulls

If you sync all their autos you’ll likely die

But you can backpedal to try to stagger when they reach melee with you to desync their autos

Don’t forget that spell reflect has a magic DR in pulls that feature magic damage

[midnight pivot]

Also when your kiting don't turn your back at all you knever know when you'll get a sneaky mob in there to play bongo on your butt and you take a ton of damage

[unique jetty]

true

what do you prioritize when both Shield Slam and Thunder Clap are ready?

[radiant jay]

heyo, is gnome still a good warrior race?

[unique jetty]

and does it make a difference if you have Avatar running

[jagged pier]

Shield slam

U always prio shield slam

Expect for gathering a pack ill allow tc but apart from that oncr gathered ss and only ss, and if u have phalanx u should prio ss to gather anyway

[midnight pivot]

Shield slam generates the most rage to keep ignore pain up while juggling shield block thunderclap for aggro but it does hit hard during avatar

[shy stream]

Any advice on this? 😇

[jagged pier]

Because u use dwarf defnesively and it gives extra benefit to defence

If u are did u are wasting your racial to not use it with cds

So it looses all its value to being used as a defensive

[shy stream]

hmm, thanks! I'm not fully convinced but it is at least an explanation 😄

[formal flicker]

Hello, im new to prot warrior and was wondering if theres any good content creators out there making guides?

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/sylvanas-sylvanas-windrunner-gif-24238601

@chilly brook

[jagged pier]

My queen 🧎‍♂️

[midnight pivot]

Dwarf racial drops bleeds and poison

[ionic fern]

Welcome.
Unfortunately i do not think there is a dedicated Prot Warrior content creator.
Most who create video content are generic tanks.

If you want to check out some gameplay to see if you can pick something up, i'd advise https://www.youtube.com/@SenseNurfed

[shy stream]

so does Dark Iron Dwarf

[formal flicker]

thank you 🙂 I appreciate that

[drowsy comet]

M-mommy

wow bruh, wth is this shit. I want this fire hawk mount and I get a piece of shit in lava

out of date april fools joke or what

[jagged pier]

Sense the 🐐

[daring marlin]

Funky gonna throw a fit

[sly star]

Am I going insane?

I did my Skyreach +10 at ilvl 245, it was sort of a breeze, I did fairly large pulls.

Now at 270 ilvl even pulling a double pack in the same dungeon still at +10, and I constantly find myself basically getting deleted from the game by literally anything. Casts are not going through I just take sooo much damage, even with shieldwall up I can barely stay affloat.

[drowsy comet]

+10 with 245 is wild already, how much was the healer stressing to keep you alive :p

[solid sun]

Did you accidentally equip non plate items

Did you pay someone to pilot your lower ilvl character

[drowsy comet]

they did change a few things in algethars academy with this weeks reset tho, but mostly nerfs to the endboss afaik

[drowsy comet]

[solid sun]

The second one was just jokes of course

[sly star]

No and No

[onyx hearth]

How is colossus compared to thane?

[solid sun]

Are you playing more carelessly about giving up back hits when gathering

Currently thane is a little ahead of colossus

[sly star]

The opposite I play soooo fucking safe now

Basically non stop panic mode

[onyx hearth]

Even in AoE?

[sly star]

In Mythic raids, I have 0 issues with damage

[solid sun]

Well your best bet is to log a new run and let us see what’s up

Idk @ionic fern said thane was ahead of colossus rn. I just take the blanket statement as no caveats were offered

[north scarab]

If it's the bleed packs, that could be why, gotta kite em

Even with a lot of defensives, if you let the bleed packs put a lot of stacks on you, it will be hard to live

[sharp gale]

War prot privilege I guess

[ionic fern]

Why is that wild?

[drowsy comet]

ive seen couple of pwarrs getting shredded in seconds in +9s

[sharp gale]

But it’s not even that low ilvl for a 10

[drowsy comet]

thats why i was curious

[sharp gale]

#delete backshots

[north scarab]

It's not a bleed, it's this thing here

[sly star]

It really was a non issue, did it twice.

Then this week 25 item level higher I died 5 times in the dungeon, it goes so fast that 50% of the time I do not even know what happened.

[drowsy comet]

ay no backshots here

[sly star]

Yes I can see the death recap, I got melee hit...

[sharp gale]

If a random melee was 2-3x higher than regular ones you showed your butt

Logs would be more precise tho

If someone bumped the adds when you died, you died because they got bumped behind you

[onyx hearth]

When I see that my shield block will fade and I have nothing left, I just leap far away and wait

[tribal wharf]

am i just wrong or is there no good video game movies

i tried to think about it just now for like 3 minutes

[solid sun]

I thought the Mario movie that came out a bit ago was solid

[drowsy comet]

imagine showing your butt to random mobs

[solid sun]

New one looks good too

[tribal wharf]

and i cant think of a single god damn one good game turned into a movie

i thought it was like, alright, but super mid

to where i skipped it

i skip alot of them but damn does it seem like no good VG movies

[solid sun]

If you skipped it

How can you say it was mid

[onyx hearth]

Resident Evil 1 was very praised at the time

[tribal wharf]

very millenial movie

dunno how else to say it

[sharp gale]

Idk series count ?

[solid sun]

You’re a millennial

[sharp gale]

Bc I liked last of us and fallout shows

[tribal wharf]

they had the wrong voice actor for it, in my opinion, cuz mario shouldnt really be talking all that much anyways

[onyx hearth]

Every wow player is at least millennial

[tribal wharf]

never does in the games

[drowsy comet]

heh

[cerulean spear]

The sonic movies are a fun time, fully lean into it

[sharp gale]

Warcraft movie was cool

[tribal wharf]

jackblack was probably good as bowser

[solid sun]

Yeah I have fun with the sonic movies

Liked Warcraft

[tribal wharf]

chris pratt

they had that guy doing mario voice

i dunno like, doesnt mario have a super specific voice as it is

[sharp gale]

I didn’t watch iron lung

[cerulean spear]

Exit 8 is supposed to be quite good too

niche but Ive heard good things

[tribal wharf]

i felt like the warcraft movie was very alright

but it was like, it felt like minimum effort required

cuz they re-used the same fucking animation for drain life some such warlock spell

like 4 fucking times

and its like, theres a billion other attacks and items and shit you can show

an then drain life 50 times scenes

[onyx hearth]

People expected a LOTR, but warcraft movie was alright

[jagged pier]

Really not wild

[sharp gale]

I think yogi is mad at game movies bc Doom movie

I forgot silent hill, good one too

[jagged pier]

Of course doom movie exsists

Bur tbf can say the same for warcraft

[sharp gale]

Yeah but he said they all bad, so we gave examples of ones that are not stinky, like Warcraft was cool

I kinda agree with him tho, video game movies have the trend to be bad in general, minority are good

[tribal wharf]

hoooo boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7kSIdXBpc

i have alot to say on that movie

much of it echoing what he says

[sharp gale]

I genuinely don’t know why it is so trash, how did they manage to do THAT bad

tbf I have the same bit with games from books I’ve read bc of Metro 2033

[tribal wharf]

like

wow movie

was dog shit right

and this about like 5 times worse than that

and i feel like the cap for those movies was like, a miliion or a billion fucking times more

than the SHIT

we got

like the mario movie from 90s, okay, so some video game movies were fine and good like sonic

that was alright

[jagged pier]

I agree with yogi on this one, it werent good

But adapting vudeo games to films never really works lets be honest

[tribal wharf]

watch something like the ghost busters 1/2

and something like has so much aura its insane

[jagged pier]

Yogi u are old please do not use aura as a term

K thnks

[tribal wharf]

i refuse to be millenai

zoomer in gen x body

[jagged pier]

Nah come on u boomer in boomer body

[hard trail]

Do you always pop demo shout and shield wall at the same time or are there scenarios where you would offset them?

[undone beacon]

You throw demo about basically on CD

And shield wall when you need a big defensive

[hard trail]

Thanks

[sharp gale]

It is very specific situations / very high keys, where you hold demo shout for def use

So just on cd until then yep

[hard trail]

Thank you

[jagged pier]

Nah not really with tl, its up like all the time

[solid sun]

Jakey

[jagged pier]

If ppl are holding it for longer than like 30s thrn thats wrong cause u would have had it back

[solid sun]

I don’t see a character for you on NA yet :(

[sharp gale]

Like priory first boss or first boss of dawnbreaker

[jagged pier]

Rhino literally my bane

[solid sun]

How????

[jagged pier]

Always asking me about na

[solid sun]

Mates wanna play with their mates

[jagged pier]

St for sure but trash nah

[tribal wharf]

no, 2 tottally different things

[sharp gale]

very specific situations yup

[tribal wharf]

one gives rage you can spend and has to hit things and then you deal more dmg to thme

the other is long form high dr, longer cd DR only

[jagged pier]

Like ive seen top ios hold onto demo for longer than it woukd have been back a lot of times

For no reason, but i need it at x moment, yes u would still have it for x moment the cdr on it is crazy

Same with wall too i suppose

[daring marlin]

I throw puzzlebox on CD

[tribal wharf]

i am very shit at this game, and most games, but what i do about SW is, well, you have 2 charges of it right

[jagged pier]

Yogi cooking

[tribal wharf]

send the first one immediately on pull, and then keep the other one till you need it or send it when it would refresh

[jagged pier]

[solid sun]

Yogi isn’t even bad

Just modest

[sharp gale]

I guess it is kinda hard to guess the final cd when you have mapped out tankbuster/def of a dungeon bosses, I’m not tanking that high keys personnaly

changing your plan is not better than sticking with original one type shit

[jagged pier]

Yer but u should know the average ish cdr espeically as in high keys its mega pull on mega pull mostly its gunna be lowest cdr it can be

[sharp gale]

Im talking more specifically for st bosses like priory, mega pull, demo shout cd is kinda more set

Like you wouldn’t move your demoshout 1 tankbuster before planned use just bc it got back up earlier ?

[onyx hearth]

Wait, you guys don't use demo on CD?

Planning is not a warrior thing

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[tiny mason]

hi, what is the point of matrix catalyst for waist and boots?

[trail dome]

Better stats

[undone beacon]

Stats

It’s a relatively minor optimization though and you should always sim before making a decision to catalyze an off piece

[tribal wharf]

the boots turn into pretty good stats overall

thats why

almost everything turns into haste for us

i mean, i just crafted boots personally myself

[plush tendon]

transmog

[solid sun]

Hey @jagged pier how many stacks are you reaching before you step away in skyreach with the fire talon autos or whatever

Or do you just stay backpedaling

[hasty hill]

Is it possible to make an on release macro for heroic leap? like as long as I hold the button it won't go off? So I have the option of aiming it with the indicator but also instant cast?

[undone beacon]

No

The best you could probably do is like, a shift mod on a macro with one heroic leap being normal and the other being @cursor

[dusty terrace]

Is the alchemist trinket any good? Anyone tested it?

[plush tendon]

its 100% not worth using

there are much better trinkets to choose from

[undone beacon]

I don’t even know the last time an alch stone was worth using lol

[plush tendon]

and better places to use spark

like on jewelry, weps, shields, armor pieces

[viscid rivet]

wait so theyre nerfing thane and not nerfing brewmaster? xd what

[plush tendon]

I wouldnt look to hard into the PTR notes

they are obviously not done

we can outrage once the patch release date is at least announced

[chrome hull]

A reasonable take? How dare you. I wanted to yell at my Brew tank friend about this

[drowsy comet]

[viscid rivet]

I saw gameplay of brewmaster doing +15 and oh man

I feel bad for healers having to heal me now

[plush tendon]

Brew is the M+ tank right now

but theres always 1 tank that shines above the rest; its nothing new

the odd thing for us is we are the 100% the best raid tank

[viscid rivet]

but blizz is capable of doing better balance, I remember seasons where in m+ the tank gaps werent that huge

[plush tendon]

heck, there is even a boss we can spell reflect

[viscid rivet]

of course theres always the best

[toxic pewter]

I am tankier then brewmaster

[plush tendon]

there were even seasons where the balance gap was even bigger

its week 2

things tend to ebb and flow in terms of balance

especially early in expansions

But my general advice is if you dont care about pushing IO for title, play what you want. But if you do care, conform to the meta.

[drowsy comet]

casually got my BiS trinket in that Quel Danas chest lol

[plush tendon]

int trinket

gross

[solid sun]

Champion track trinket

[plush tendon]

hell prob still wear it

till he gets a heroic/mythic version

[solid sun]

Not bis gonna get replaced

[plush tendon]

casters have been gooning over that trinket in my raid

[drowsy comet]

im resto druid i need this

[drowsy comet]

nope, this will stay till I get the hero or maybe even myth version of this. Next trinket i need STILL is that stupid heart of wind

[solid sun]

So it’ll get replaced

[drowsy comet]

so many pugs ive ran with in Windrunners... sigh

[solid sun]

Literally not bis

[plush tendon]

for BiS, people generally just consider the trinket on any track

[solid sun]

Nope

[plush tendon]

that trinket comes off Paladins? which is quite a ways into the raid

[drowsy comet]

No Alleria

[plush tendon]

so its literally only replaced by higher level tracks of it

[plush tendon]

oh, even better

[plush tendon]

I consider the champ track BiS since its literally always slot until a heroic/mythic version

which is huge for the doo doo

[drowsy comet]

yea, as I said I will replace it if I get the Hero or Myth version of it, literally couldnt believe my eyes if I would even get it lol

[drowsy comet]

[solid sun]

Nah I mean

This is such a pet peeve of mine

Bis literally means it’s the best in slot

That is not

[drowsy comet]

Yes Rhino it will get replaced by the higher version of it

happy now

im still running blue boots bruh, no fucking boots drop for me lmao

[plush tendon]

I guess to each their own; to me it feels like a semantic thing

[tribal wharf]

wherrs that copy paste about no enchant

[plush tendon]

put some damn enchants on!

[tribal wharf]

Listen you dense blob. I know your ilvl is top, but you have no enchants, no gems, half of the items are with versatillity... That's a bit unprofessional mate. Same old as all of the warlocks... ie, ignorance thinking it is educated

close enough

[drowsy comet]

not on champ gear, and have you seen how expensive they are

[drowsy comet]

oh cmon no way it actually is a copy pasta now lmao

[cobalt inlet]

Mountain thane still better than colossus right?

[tribal wharf]

yes, but you wont notice a massive difference if you decide to try col

[plush tendon]

right now, I would play Thane>Col

[tribal wharf]

try it out

[plush tendon]

but Col is viable if you prefer it

[tribal wharf]

if it aint for you, dont do it

im finding out its a bit more fun for me for now

[plush tendon]

one thing to keep in my mind as Col, a lot more damage is tied to revenge then clap

[dusky canopy]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o6cVv12WuBCKegMcg6e2R6

[plush tendon]

youll also have to get used to not having reduced CDR on clap in Avatar

[dusky canopy]

I’m officially raid upgrades locked

@lusty grotto

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-now-we-can-finally-play-the-game-gif-26486523

[dusky canopy]

Ahahaha

[toxic pewter]

thats me irl

[dusky canopy]

Took about 65 dungeons to max gear

Well, max non raid gear

[plush tendon]

I only do dungeons up to crest cap/vault cap

[dusky canopy]

I had good luck this tier I have no complaints

Yeah I’m back to work now so I’ll just be doing 8 a week + raid

[tribal wharf]

is blood borne good as col?

the build i was given just has it

[plush tendon]

it should be

there are some bleed talents in Col tree

[dusky canopy]

Maybe a little casual io push if I have free time on weekends

[tribal wharf]

its more the uh barbaric training i would like to take

but oh well

[dusky canopy]

Would like to get a few more keys at a 15 so I have them all

[undone beacon]

I dont have premium raidbots so i have to sim dungeons one by one :(

[jagged pier]

I just use my friends

[plush tendon]

wow ok, nice brag dude

[undone beacon]

wow using people thats fricked up

[naive ravine]

Maybe his friend likes beeing used

[jagged pier]

He gave it to me willingly

[tribal wharf]

taking notes what i need to loot still

[plush tendon]

[sharp gale]

How many triumvirate

[dusky canopy]

Honestly not many I don’t even know the count

I was spoon fed rings and gloves for sure

Only item I had to farm was neck

[undone beacon]

i just run dungeons cuz they fun and if i get loot i go "yippee!"

I was spared farming a neck because the best hero neck outside of raid for me comes from the pvp quest

[dusky canopy]

Yk I wonder if that’s an upgrade I should sim it

Then I gotta do pvp tho

[undone beacon]

Big mast small haste, literally only one outside of raid

you can do the fake npc pvp

[sharp gale]

you didn't grab the pvp neck ?

[undone beacon]

Just roll the bots 8 times, takes like an hour or two depending on the quality of the other nerds you're with

[sharp gale]

it is basically midnight falls neck but 1 socket

[dusky canopy]

You got it already?

[warm plinth]

We all got record speed demotions

[undone beacon]

yeah its avail this week

[dusky canopy]

I thought it was time gated to next week?

[warm plinth]

You're time gated to next week

Gottem

[sharp gale]

it is this week, you can do it all the quests in training grounds

[undone beacon]

Nah you can get it this week, and if you're behind they just let you keep going

I just did 8 training grounds back to back, easy shit

[sharp gale]

the ring is heavy vers/mastery

doggo

[undone beacon]

its a ring not a doggo

gottem

[sharp gale]

i miss 1 item

[dusky canopy]

Wait did they remove the “convert to simc string” button off of quick sim…

Bruh

Wth!?

[toxic pewter]

I swear this being able to get flux charges is the greatest addition in midnight

[coarse bay]

Youre the greatest addition to midnight

Gottem

[sharp gale]

at the bottom

[toxic pewter]

[dusky canopy]

Yeah but I just loaded from armory

You used to be able to go to quick sim and run it and then make a top gear import

[errant siren]

Does anyone know the Addons used by the tanks from the RWF? I know its a very vague question, but my RL was telling me about it that has timers for taunts etc that one of the tanks is using, I just cant work out yet which tank, from which guild 😛 Trying to watch all 3 PoVs but I think it may be the warrior tank from Liquid
Appreciate any help and guidance 😄

[coarse bay]

They have addon guys that work for them

They made their own weakaura replacement

And afaik none of them are available rn

[errant siren]

Ah ok that would make sense

[vocal flame]

I don’t raid. It’s still crafting the sword first over shield?

Usually it’s the other way around. Just want to make sure

[coarse bay]

Id do shield personally in that situation

[warm plinth]

If you don't raid, I would craft shield first

[vocal flame]

Ok that’s what I thought

[coarse bay]

But you can do both already so it’s just a diff of some dungeons between

[sharp gale]

you have that if you use northern sky

[upbeat plover]

I'm yellow again

[vocal flame]

Tytyty

[toxic pewter]

wait

what happened to my yellow

[warm plinth]

Nice to see you yellow again Leland.

[outer willow]

Last boss of Algethar - Can some big peepee tank pls tell me the correct way to tank that dragon?

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-yellow-gif-12747952

[warm plinth]

They took it away for April Fools; they're just a day late. 👀

[toxic pewter]

ohhh

[dusky canopy]

You the man thanks!

[cobalt inlet]

is it posible to have SB up 100% time?

[toxic pewter]

yes either talent Heavy Repurcussions or get enough haste to run Into the Fray.. haste rating generally recommended is 1188

[errant siren]

Thanks will take a look. Do you know of any good and functional imports for NST? 🙂

[sharp gale]

the CC nameplates for saladbar

and the rest idk, im not on those bosses yet

• we use nst/reminder as raid alert

[dusky canopy]

@sharp gale
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iBvTrdxbNbjGbeyzC6aSAu

100 dps increase for PvP neck when hero track is maxed

[undone beacon]

worth

[toxic pewter]

brew is a pvper now giga chad

[plush tendon]

time to get into the arena

[undone beacon]

get grinding loser

[plush tendon]

I do want to warrior PVP a bit

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

[plush tendon]

seems like fun

[errant siren]

I think the main issues im running into is Paladins on HC, I get overwhelmed a little bit between taunt swaps and watching the Holy Power to move the Boss out 🙂 RL is just trying to see if there is a addon that might help a bit better with reminders

RIght now just using BigWigs and timeline 🙂

Thanks for the help though

[plush tendon]

Prot War eats Paladins on heroic

[sharp gale]

oh on hc idk what you could use, i thought it was mythic question

[plush tendon]

you can spell reflect both SoTR and Templars Verdict

[sharp gale]

example of how we use reminder

[errant siren]

Youre kidding

[plush tendon]

the reflect on SoTR does damage to the boss

[plush tendon]

I am indeed not

it works on mythic to

[errant siren]

Fuck me im an idiot

My co-tank is a monk so would still need to taunt swap

[plush tendon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YdMbpDzgqjF6vyPX?fight=19&type=damage-done&source=3

we pulled this log from Sense to confirm

check out that reflect damage

[hasty hill]

Man wtf :(

[undone beacon]

It just do be like that

[ornate bear]

Hey everyone, is asking a question here okay? I’m new 🙂

[undone beacon]

Shoot champ

[plush tendon]

im not on Paladins Mythic yet and my co-tank is also a brew; our plan is to just have me hold the Prot Paladin and we taunt swap off the ret

[errant siren]

Jesus christ I didnt even think to use it.

[plush tendon]

when the HPal ults, we will have to do the taunt swap as normal since they cast their abilties before SR is back up

but its still stonks

[ornate bear]

I was just curious how prot warrior plays. I started in legion remix so I’m new to wow. I’m doing +14s as a brewmaster right now and want to add another tank to the roster.

[undone beacon]

You hit shield block and you make sure mobs dont get behind you. Win

[dusky canopy]

Honestly I’m hoping my vault has jewelry next week and or I get loot prio on wrists from boss 1 next week, that would allow me to surpass hero crests

[errant siren]

We are a more AoTC guild, currently 5/6 Voidspire, we are doing Normal March Sunday. I just struggled with getting over stimulated on Paladins and screwing up the taunt swaps and moving out.

Ill pass this info to my RL

[dusky canopy]

Could get neck from saladbar tonight too

That also lets me finish hero track next week

[plush tendon]

heres a good view

[dusky canopy]

[plush tendon]

I know its mythic, but you can see the timing for each taunt swap

this is when the general casts SoTR

[errant siren]

Yeah I also noticed that the Paladins dont cast at exactly 100 power either, so me panicking and dragging it out before 4 seconds of the aura cast is a DPS loss too

[undone beacon]

Just got a cata charge from a bountiful delve, we livin our best lives

[plush tendon]

its also good to communicate with your co-tank in comms

[errant siren]

Thanks, borrowing this for RL too hahha

[solid sun]

Isn’t it crazy how none of the tanks are as tanky as bdk

[undone beacon]

Our tanks go to a diff vc for pallies

[plush tendon]

Prot War is the tankiest in raid right now

[errant siren]

Yeah we ended up doing it for our first kill because we just kept talking over the RL

[solid sun]

Maybe but no tank is as tanky as bdk

[errant siren]

Our 2nd kill last night was in the normal raid channel, but the urge to talk was hard haha

[solid sun]

Some might be tankier. Maybe even all of them

But none at the same level

:>

[plush tendon]

also, check the pins

theres a spell reflect cheat sheet at the top

its worth browsing

[coarse bay]

Ive personally found rogue to be very tanky with feint

[solid sun]

Rogue is so tanky

[plush tendon]

Spell Reflect is the warrior version of AMS

[coarse bay]

Rogue has cloak

[solid sun]

Hey you know that dungeon

[errant siren]

Thank you, checking it out now. Do you mind if I DM you a bit more about my tanking for some advice, or prefer just sticking it in channel here? 😛

[solid sun]

Where you fight the yellow demon

[coarse bay]

No

[plush tendon]

can just throw in channel

there are some smart people here

[errant siren]

Of course 😄

[plush tendon]

your question just really alligned with what me and my co-tank are planning for mythic

[solid sun]

Yeah rhino you know it

[coarse bay]

I, rhino, dont know the yellow demon dungeon

[solid sun]

The yellow demon where you die if a Ppal hits divine toll

[coarse bay]

Which is it

Oh

Ya

Thats not in rotation so i forgot about it already

Oh wait

Yes

[solid sun]

Yes it is

[coarse bay]

Nexus

[solid sun]

Lmao now I’m confused?

[coarse bay]

Im thinking the one in silvermoon with imp casts

Youre right tho its nexus

[solid sun]

Yeah like nexus point xenomorph or smth

[coarse bay]

Sorry toll has caused many wipes

Same with arakara

[solid sun]

Well anyways

When you walk into the dungeon

And you turn left

Theres a bunch of like purple lasers and stuff

Magenta lasers

And people can have a circle put on them

What does that circle do

[coarse bay]

Idk

[undone beacon]

rhino what are you yapping about

[coarse bay]

Probably dont stand on people with it though

I think its a dispel

[solid sun]

Just read the messages dude I’m tryna learn about this circle debuff

[forest lagoon]

It's a dot and slow

[errant siren]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GPXw3DancWRdNAgt?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=4

I think I have some over capping issues and IP uptime, trying to get a bit more tanky. Just the main issue having on Paladins, having to 3 tank it, embarrassingly

I just need to get it better, whether I need an addon to help with visuals or just practise.

[undone beacon]

the damage circle from the seers? its a dispel and you need to not put it on barrels or they blow up

[solid sun]

In nexus point xenomorph

Does it hurt you?

[coarse bay]

Barrel thing i didnt know

[solid sun]

Or does it only hurt if you move?

[undone beacon]

It hurts you

in general

[forest lagoon]

People can dispel it off themselves with anything that removes snares

[solid sun]

Can I get rid of it the same way like in seat

When you get chained up

[forest lagoon]

I think this yes

[solid sun]

I feel like yogi rn

But my friend group argues about this circle every time we run it

[coarse bay]

Tell them

To zugg

[solid sun]

We have had zero luck figuring out what it does

[plush tendon]

you shouldnt worry about IP or overcapping it

you wanna press IP to dump rage in order to not cap on rage

[undone beacon]

Looks like you're doing find tbf, you didnt waste any rage on the lightblind kill which is very good. That fight is hard on tanks, the swap is pretty tight. Be communicative with your cotank

[plush tendon]

and keep pressing generators

[undone beacon]

Like augusto said, IP uptime isnt something to keep track of. You have good shield block uptime and are doing good rage managment. Probably just getting clapped by busters and maybe getting hit by bad, no?

[plush tendon]

also, just looking at your heroic Paladins log, you are holding demo shout

just send that on CD

4 casts over 5 minutes is abysmal

[errant siren]

So I had big issues with IP and overcapping last reset, I tried to keep it a bit better this time. RL sat with me and just compared logs and identified too much rage over capping and not enough IP dumping. I reckon I did massively better this time

[lofty warren]

On skyreach 2nd boss - should you be eating his yellow line or is that for others? I was eating his yellow line and then he also was winding up to punch me so I either had to dodge the punch or stop eating the line.. I chose to get punched and then died

[undone beacon]

You did very well on that front yeah

[plush tendon]

obviously reflect on SoTR/templars verdit will greatly reduce your damage intake

[errant siren]

Yeah i think i was panicking too much about taunt swaps, the rest went out the window

[undone beacon]

Lean on Shield Wall and Demo Shout more

[errant siren]

Yeah planning to, deffo needs more communication but also dont want to have my ADHD spill over and waffle over the RL

[undone beacon]

Also you're not running shield spec so you're losing free DR

[errant siren]

1000% I need to improve on that, thank you

[coarse bay]

I dont eat a line because i get the frontal

[coarse bay]

I get out of the way of everyone else

[plush tendon]

in terms of talents, there are som adjustments id make

[errant siren]

Oh fuck me I forgot to swap from it from doing it on Normal 😛

[plush tendon]

you have plenty of haste to run ITF

and, if you are worried about dying, I'd just spec into Battle Scarred Vet

[errant siren]

Oh really? I thought it needed to be 1100?

[plush tendon]

until you get more confort

[errant siren]

That makes senser

[plush tendon]

log says you have 1600?

unless its bricked XD

[errant siren]

I wanted to review the top logs and thier talewnts per boss

[errant siren]

Eh?

[undone beacon]

Log does say 1625 haste for some reason

[errant siren]

Ill log on and screenshot

[plush tendon]

if not, its fine

[undone beacon]

maybe it factors with flask and other buffs

[errant siren]

Oh thats a good point

[plush tendon]

you also need to make sure you SB uptime is good

87% blocked hits with Heavy Rep is not great

[undone beacon]

He had 94% uptime, 87% blocked hits

So took some hits from the back for sure

[undone beacon]

I'd just stick with HR tbh

[errant siren]

Yeah i think its when i was running the Boss out

[undone beacon]

Great time to get murdered by whiteswings

[errant siren]

Yeah not ideal, I need to strafe run better

[undone beacon]

Yep. Otherwise you're taking unmitigated boss melees and that is ruff

[errant siren]

Ok so keep with HR over ITF for now, IP is ok, and ill be honest, I dont know how to view overcapping on rage, my RL was streaming it to me haha

[undone beacon]

In the logs go to Resources and change Hit Points to Rage

[errant siren]

And then just dont panic, and use spell reflect on Prot Pala. I tank that one and just taunt swap Ret Pala

[errant siren]

Oh nice 0 wasted