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vale escarp
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whats the breakingpoint for itf in m+? 1150?

torn gulch
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you know that if you have 4 set you get extra charges from content right?

torn gulch
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well you know now

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get your 4 set

maiden hinge
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I've already crafted my weapon 🥲

torn gulch
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and rewards the capability of getting additional charges from content

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it was especially made so that you can send your charges and get 4 set without feeling that you waste your charges

unique axle
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Whuh i had no idea

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thank you so much

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now i got 4set

torn gulch
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with mythic gloves i assume

steady fiber
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whats better to pick ? Hands or Wep? i have crafted weapon

unique axle
torn gulch
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and now when you get extra charges you can calayse whatever you need

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drop rate is kinda rare but you get them from all content

unique axle
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awesome

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thank you

next star
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can someone help me pls :DDDD

torn gulch
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prot

narrow prawn
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but, as always

surreal birch
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Is a myth track neck worth it, or just get hero aleria one?

carmine nimbus
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Any logical explanation for nerfing MT? (even if changes gonna be up in ~1 month)

steady fiber
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hey but they are bufing demo shout range that is i guess in they eyes BIG buff KEKW

carmine nimbus
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Colo aint made for m+ imo

steady fiber
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true, but question is do they know it

carmine nimbus
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from the other hand Brew still rising

steady fiber
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because maybe they even dont know that and just zug zug me work

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but in my eyes its shity class balance, dunno

carmine nimbus
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They only thing i expect its a big phalanx rework/tuning

steady fiber
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i doubt that, i started to lose hope after so many time

mint stream
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The fuck are those Mountain thane nerfs

steady fiber
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to make us play colosus

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because they know better it seems

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or to play new meta, Monk tank only

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big flexible tank specs to choose. Monk if u want high keys 😄

copper night
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guys i'm lost. Myth track set gloves, or hero track set chest?

steady fiber
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i think gloves bcs its myth?

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try to sim ur self, might help to find better peace

mint stream
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I mean, I'm happy for monks, they have been in the gutter often enough.... But this tank balance is trash

steady fiber
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Welcome to wow, what i can say more KEKW

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either you roll the meta, or you take the lube and hope/pray for the best

vale crest
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How big is the upcoming nerfs?

steady fiber
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its big dmg nerf and big nerf for avatar uptime

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so for high keys i think ppl might start not picking warriors at all again if they will do that nerf

carmine nimbus
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Dont care for damage, cdr its huge

steady fiber
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True

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but why they want us to play colossus if its shit on M+

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bad designed vs thane

carmine nimbus
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Revenge us for previous season 🫣

steady fiber
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or someone from balance team hates warriors KEKW

cerulean tusk
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CDR = more hits, not stronger

It is the boring overall fix

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If the ability is weak, buff raw dam, dont make it closer and closer to a rotational

uneven snow
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i hate colossus 😒

cerulean tusk
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I enjoy it, just wish Demolish packed more of a punch in the press

It is spread out value, and doesnt feel like the end all smash it was supposed to be

carmine nimbus
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reining in burst nerf

ancient coyote
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Thane still playable for +10-12 ?

torn gulch
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the nerfs are not in for at least another 4 weeks

ancient coyote
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I'm knew on tanking and i have a lot a fun with thane

torn gulch
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and it will be playable well beyond 10-12 even then

ancient coyote
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Oh right ty

hardy snow
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how annoying to use is puzzle box?

jagged pier
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annoying in m+

frank surge
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i didnt craft anything yet and only do m+, easy shield grab right? 0 tier pieces

torn gulch
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shield grab and weapon craft

cerulean tusk
frank surge
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wep+belt im guessing craft then?

torn gulch
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you have 6 spark as of now

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and as many as 350 myth crests available

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wep+wrist+back(or belt) crafted with 2x aracanoweave on wrist and back(belt)

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and full send on shield to 289

frank surge
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ty

torn gulch
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that's how i'll do it

torn gulch
# frank surge ty

don't forget a run of nullaeus ?? for 30 myth and 60 hero uncapped+a tier 11 bountiful delve then an m+ for another 20hero/20myth uncapped

hardy snow
kindred hearth
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I am kinda brainstorming what to do, so i might ask it here as well. I play a bit of prot warrior and arms/fury warrior, but i am in doubt what to craft, shield+onehander or two-hander. What would you guys do

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Two handers are way harder to acquire, and crafting one saves a bit of crest. But you normally open the vault as dps warr.

last lotus
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any chance we picking "Heart of Wind" as Protwarrior or are we replacing it asap with heroic trinkets from raid? (deciding between myth shield or myth Hearth of Wind)

chrome falcon
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LMAO those 12.0.5 ptr changes are really something huh

chrome falcon
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unless you're consistently mythic raiding

last lotus
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ty!

rancid knot
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this trinket is surly just bait right?

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got it on my brewmaster

spring tusk
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this any good for us ?

pastel geyser
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also have heart of wind myth but i think its not that worth picking over the hc version

fringe mural
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Myth crest cap is per season not per week right?

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so if you start late you can catch up

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So you could theoretically run m+ until you're at the cap or are those weekly

noble cove
fringe mural
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okay perfect

noble cove
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u gotta spam like crazy at some point but yep

merry trellis
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Should I pick champion Gaze of the Alnseer or mythic gloves?

noble cove
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gloves imo , alnseer is only champ , u can reclear boss and get it that way immo

stoic hound
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guys what enchant do you use for helmet? the one that gives speed or leech?

jagged pier
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leech

maiden quiver
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Why is prot getting nerfed in 0.5 zzzzz

jagged pier
pastel geyser
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collateral from fury xd

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now why is fury getting nerfed? cuz fuck u

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i just love it whenever thane is the best option for m+, blizz just comes and nerfs it while buffing slayer and slayer ends up being only usable spec in all forms of content

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i feel this has been the case for most seasons in tww

maiden quiver
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You mean colossus?

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Prot doesn't get slayer

pastel geyser
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no

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i was talking about fury

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since we are getitng nerfed cuz of it

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and whenever thane fury gets nerfed, prot usually does too

maiden quiver
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Fury isn't even one of the top m+ specs

pastel geyser
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yea ik

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thats the problem xD

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but its ok just nerf warrior

maiden quiver
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I think they really just want Brew to be the only tank at high keys

pastel geyser
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fr

ruby void
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Boys I got the itch and it ain’t the clap this time. Why is it that a prot warrior just feels like home?

pastel geyser
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if only brew didnt feel so goofy to play id prob try it

maiden quiver
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Bc warrior was the only one giving it any run for its money, and even then it can't keep up

pastel geyser
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but i severely dislike the sounds effects and feel of brew

maiden quiver
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I used to feel the same way but I've been giving it more of a try since the pruning, and while the rotation is boring AF (we are used to that playing prot) it does feel better than it used to. I do agree that the class fantasy though of brewmaster is just nowhere near as cool for feeling like a tank as prot war

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It is really nice to not have to worry about taking the occasional back shot though

jagged pier
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i mean

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u should still worry as brew they cant dodge from the back

maiden quiver
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I'm not saying you should play badly, but it minimizes those corner cases where you do end up taking a hit from behind

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The April fools thing almost got me for a second 😂

mild river
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273 ilv can solo mythic dragonflight raids? or too soon?

maiden quiver
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Highly doubtful on some bosses like Raz

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But maybe some

mild river
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yeah. thanks. gotta try to pug then

proper moss
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I havent crafted anything yet, should I craft 3 pieces this week?

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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Can't solo df raid

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Not with great ease at least

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There will be pain and suffering

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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One of the bosses throws you out of the fight reseting it

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So not much I can do about that without properly managing charge and leap cds

pastel geyser
tribal wharf
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For over 5 minutes

pastel geyser
tribal wharf
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I'm not saying you can't but it's not say castle nathria

pastel geyser
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Nah guys

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Vault is very easy

tribal wharf
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Which infact can be easily solod

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Everything cn is a 1 shot

pastel geyser
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Well yeah its in legacy scaling mode

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Df is too but scaling isnt in millions yet

tribal wharf
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Cuz voi has a blue closk I need

pastel geyser
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Go do it its ez

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Id stay dpa spec too for faster clear lol

tribal wharf
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Nah, next expansion when it full 1 shot lol

fringe mural
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What metric decides which stats you get when using the catalyst?

pastel geyser
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But its basically that..

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Why wait another expac for stuff u nearly 1 shot

jagged pier
jagged pier
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they cata into certain pieces

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and only thoughs pieces

fringe mural
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okay that's weird then, because the tier legs i would've gotten through the vault had other stats than the catalyst ones

torn gulch
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that's impossible

tribal wharf
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Check what it catalyzed into example seat gloves go from great to shit

ionic fern
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What are these changes,wtf.

torn gulch
fringe mural
jagged pier
tribal wharf
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But boots and cloak and others turn into haste crit or vers

torn gulch
fringe mural
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i specifically did not pick the tier legs from the vault because i didnt want the secondary stats it had

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and when i catalysted my regular legs into tier it had haste and crit on it

tribal wharf
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Meh only gloves ahit Stat distribution for us

fringe mural
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more haste than crit even

torn gulch
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this has all the tier sets with offsets and stats

fringe mural
torn gulch
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most likely

delicate bay
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hello guys ! after weapon and shield, what would you craft ?

torn gulch
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bracers/back/waist/boots

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bracers work well as a 3rd craft

fringe mural
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for the t4

torn gulch
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yes

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we have bis gloves in seat if er get them in vault

fringe mural
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and chest/legs are the best

torn gulch
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and some crit/haste ones in one dungeon

ionic fern
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The more I look at the changes the more tilted I get about the lack of design philosophy. We deleting #protection , was a good run guys.

jagged pier
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lets pull a ret paladin

fringe mural
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dude

torn gulch
torn gulch
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we were too meta for blizzard

maiden quiver
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They only want Brew to succeed in high keys

pastel geyser
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Yea like 10% cdr on thunder clap? Xd might as well not have it lol

ionic fern
torn gulch
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instead of 50 and 50

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how big do you think is the hit?

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about 10% of damage?

jagged pier
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taken out back as thane

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u play colosus

torn gulch
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but gathering is just barf

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on colossus

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i'll play collosus in raid all day

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but i just don't like it in m+

fringe mural
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or gathering packs

torn gulch
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gathering packs

fringe mural
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ah

torn gulch
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thunderclap on colossus has the same problem trash has on guardian
it hits like shit

fringe mural
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yeah noticed that on guardian

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Deals zero dmg

torn gulch
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that's why guardian loses aggro the way it does

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nerfed into not being a proper tank anymore

fringe mural
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and raze costs a gazillion rage

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So cant really pull with that

torn gulch
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wait for 3 sunders

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try that in pugs with devourers that "I need to voidbeam 0.1s into the pull to save meta"

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or rets or other suspects

jagged pier
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theyll learn

torn gulch
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and take brews only

spice frost
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i really dont get these changes, "Brewmaster top tier, better nerf warrior" "oh and buff colossus just a little maybe someone will take the bait"

fringe mural
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i mean thunderclap/sw is still fine is it not?

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for pulling, and then you can revenge next

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Not like druid who needs to wait 3 hours

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for me, monk has always been a meme class

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Cant take them seriously really

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Especially in pvp

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-spam spinning crane kick 24/7

torn gulch
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I have no problem with monks being meta but you just don't start nerfing all the other tanks with 0 logic behind the changes

fringe mural
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no that's kinda dumb

torn gulch
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we're gonna get another DF S2 where 5 specs played the game and the rest uninstalled the game

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the infamous exodia comp

blazing shuttle
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Wakes up
Sees warrior nerf

torn gulch
blazing shuttle
jagged pier
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thats only going to effect top top keys

spice frost
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0.5 update still a bit a ways off so im hoping they either revert these changes, or completely rework colossus, imo colossus is shit and always has been #copium

torn gulch
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in that season the exodia comp bled way down

blazing shuttle
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I like Colossus :(

blazing shuttle
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Demolish feels so nice to use

torn gulch
spice frost
jagged pier
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i mean thats playing coloussus wrong

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your over spending rage like your playing thane most likely

spice frost
sharp gale
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Isn’t it exact same as TWW colossus ?

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With just revenge>clap in the prio

pastel geyser
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sound effects sound too light

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it should DEMOLISH not play around with metal pipes

torn gulch
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a demolish should DEMOLISH
not ᵈᵉᵐᵒˡᶦˢʰ

blazing shuttle
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Tbf true

pastel geyser
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like i hate arms and colossus sound effects

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they sounds so

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tingy idk

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scrawny

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instead of the crunchy thunderclap and shield sound effects

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u feel the impact

spice frost
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like pressing overpower on arms, now thats a sound effect

sharp gale
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I learned to like cleave and heroic strike sounds

tribal wharf
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once again

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i will default to doom doing EVERYTHING FUCKING PERFECTLY

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in 1993 i might add

compact silo
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any1 got spell reflect chat call macro?

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or is that done with an addon?

fringe mural
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that soundeffect is nice

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like you're hit by an ion cannon from above

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ooooooomph

heavy sparrow
chrome karma
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how many sparks do we have total this week?

mental scarab
jagged pier
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6

chrome karma
heavy sparrow
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We really gotta work for the sparks, try a variety

compact silo
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idk why i thought it's reflect

mental scarab
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@compact silo yea letters and shit monkahmm need to yell so the text is red in the chat

coral quartz
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Small goal reached for first time tanking in a season just got my 3k mostly pugging too 🙂

pastel geyser
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to no success

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no fat 400k reflect for me :(

tame jasper
compact silo
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lol what

daring marlin
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lmao april fools

rustic helm
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Lmao that's gonna make a few people cry

jagged pier
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ppl gettting baited by so much today

coral quartz
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lmao i just sent it to my brother

pastel geyser
tame jasper
pastel geyser
compact silo
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this feels like an attempt at april fools

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thinking about all the spam in trade chat lol

tame jasper
pastel geyser
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weird

blazing shuttle
tribal wharf
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is a gtx 1070 pretty good for 2ndary pc / budget gaming in 2026 i wonder

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i know 1080 1080ti is king, and ppl STILL using those

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but those arent for sale close by so

sharp gale
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Is 1080 ti better than 2060 ? It’s a lower number

strange cove
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i had a 1070 til last year when i couldn't play mh wilds seemed good enough for 1080p gaming

tribal wharf
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waiting for of all things, hdds (old big metal 3.5 drive caddy thing not the ssd

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to unfubar itself, prices wise

solid sun
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Guys I’ve discovered a new way to push keys

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Listen to this

tribal wharf
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cuz, can gpu soon now

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gpu to end all gpu

solid sun
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Instead of pushing higher keys on specs that are good

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Just cap out at 12 on specs that are poop

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Genius right

tribal wharf
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if i do all alts

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its gunna be all delvs and prey and lfr all the time

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cuz i wont get into keys and raids lol

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since warrior dead now, they killed us

daring marlin
solid sun
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I suspect warriors will do better than they are now tbh

tribal wharf
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tc bonus dmg nerfed by 40% and 50 to 25% cd

fringe mural
solid sun
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Yeah but colossus got buffed and was already basically even with thane

fringe mural
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it will use the spell you're using

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will also switch icons if you have modifiers

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which is useful for charge/intervene for example

tribal wharf
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i wouldnt know

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i've never played col

solid sun
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It’s time, yogster

tribal wharf
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not once, i dont mean just this expansion

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i do not think i have EVER tanked a dungeon or raid as col

solid sun
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Fist time for everything, as they say

tribal wharf
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im thinkng soooo hard about this

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and i cant recall it if it did

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im thinking about every single dungeon i ran

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and i dunno

lofty glen
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do we want leech or avoidance

tribal wharf
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i think i tried it on some world quests

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and i hated it

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and i said fuck it never again

analog lily
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are we going to play colo instead of thane?

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That nerf is kind of huge?

solid sun
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Currently it looks that way in .5, but there could still be more changes

solid sun
desert brook
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Do I ping anyone when I might need someone to check a log or just post it in review and the tags take care of that?

tribal wharf
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it would give me a reason to play something slightly differnt

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and someting that the game forces me not to move around like idiot

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and get stabbed in the back

solid sun
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You can let us know when you post a log

desert brook
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I’m not liking that “XD” at the end 😂

tribal wharf
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its like, i see these shops in asia and whatever that ltt goes to

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and its like

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computer everything

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wall to wall ceiling to floor

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a giant ass building full of it

lofty glen
tribal wharf
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i need that so badly for some odds and ends and gpu and such

blazing shuttle
solid sun
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It’s hard not to kick when you’ve been conditioned to kick

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Instinct takes over

tribal wharf
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spell reflect is a very niche mechanic anyways its like steal magic for mages

desert brook
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@theprotgods, log is up in log review. Feel free to shit on it, I’m getting to much help from the healer so I think my defensive usage is horrid I feel like

tribal wharf
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whos going to need that, only mages

lofty glen
tribal wharf
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so only a mage will ever know about that sort of thing realistically

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so if they are too stupid to figure it out to begin with, they never will, until they ask another person who does play a mage and knows that

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so pug sees a spell

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kick

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so i have completely given up trying to explain reflect, and just put it up and pray

tribal wharf
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what i do instead

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is mark anything with cast bar skull and X

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then it dies

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then it cant cast anything...

plucky patrol
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just got my Spellbreakers rebuke at 252 ilvl

lofty glen
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@tribal wharf just join a team with voice and use it 😄

plucky patrol
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i need some warrior friendos

tribal wharf
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just go fly 7.7 km out into the ocean

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trying to do som raid boss i guess it is

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bah, its giving me daggers

solid sun
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Hey @undone beacon are you awake yet

tribal wharf
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caverns give a int dagger

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raid boss give agi dagger

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i havemore warbound crap

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than i know what to do with it

plucky patrol
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whats a good ilvl to start tanking normal voidspire

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rn im 228

undone beacon
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Might need to be like 235 before you get invites to pugs

undone beacon
plucky patrol
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235 is doable

unreal sequoia
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shield or weapon the better first craft?

solid sun
# undone beacon I am now what’s up

Can you check out Barry’s log in log review. Seems like a good chap with a decent log but getting clapped. You’re better at that than I am though

tribal wharf
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i'm half way tempted to make those murder row boots

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didnt do any embellishment on weapon or shield

undone beacon
undone beacon
lean yoke
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I don't have any set items yet, usually aim for 3k in M+ and do some casual HC raid. What item would you choose? Is the gloves good?

plush tendon
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get your 4 set up and running and start getting Cata charges

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the belt is the only item that would be for long term

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everything else is hero track

lean yoke
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actually it's a neck, crit haste but yea, thank you 🙂

tribal wharf
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i have a dream

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of haste and mastery

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big dreams you might say, some might even call it collasal

undone beacon
lean yoke
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oh my bad 🙂 ty

coarse bay
undone beacon
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I feel only pain

celest isle
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yo guys, new protection here, having a realy great time as prot colossus, i will just play m+ but I dont want to switch to tane, colossus is so much fun, is viable to prot m+ as colossus?

undone beacon
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Yep, colossus is perfectly viable

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Getting buffed in a few weeks too

worldly rain
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blizz dev hurt their wrist again and had to nerf the speed n fun out of Prot again?

plush tendon
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its on PTR and being tested

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the MT nerfs were too severe for Prot IMO

worldly rain
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no clue what they are doing, who is complaining about slamming the fuck outta Tclap???

ionic fern
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They just have 0 idea what they are doing.

worldly rain
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tune the damage sure okay idc about numbers but let me press my THUNDERCLAP

shut summit
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continually impressed by the lack of thought put into warr changes since our rework

dusky canopy
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Think that’s more of a fury nerf that just hit Prot as well

plush tendon
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im all for Col buffs

dusky canopy
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Because right now during reck you either waste rage or miss casts of TB or BB

plush tendon
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I know you can reflect the SoTR cast

dusky canopy
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It’s just too fast for the gcd

plush tendon
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are there any bad overlaps where you need to do the normal taunt swap?

shut summit
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a couple but reflect makes it very easy

plush tendon
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my understanding is that I (Prot War) can hold the commander 100% until the holy paladin does her ult

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then we should do the normal taunt swap

shut summit
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ye im just cheesing reflect as much as poss

undone beacon
rough nest
plush tendon
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how are timewalking gains?

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fast leveling?

daring marlin
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at level 80

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If you have actual blasters with you it could go fast but cata dungeons are not wrath dungeons

plush tendon
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yea, Cata dungeons are meh to me

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at least I get some nostalgia from Wrath and BC dungeons

daring marlin
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I did VP and the dps were asleep at the wheel so it felt bad

plush tendon
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I know the 'follow the arrow' guide takes like 2 hours and change to hit max

daring marlin
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yup

plush tendon
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maybe Ill get the desire to level a 7th toon : ^)

solid sun
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I’m leveling up my bdk

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Gonna be the next Augusto

plush tendon
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Dont come to me when you start having heart problems

solid sun
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I just do 10-12 keys tbh

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It’ll be fine

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I could play anything

drowsy comet
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man it absolutely sucks having anxiety problems, I cant bring myself to tank M+ keys the whole routing MDT things are giving me crazy problems

solid sun
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Listen man

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It sucks

solid sun
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Basically yeah

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Just gotta do it

round pendant
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You'll get over it once you do it enough to realise it ain't that bad

drowsy comet
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when M0s were the thing it was no problem tanking them, but yea all the routing makes me crazy

plush tendon
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TBH, if you are pugging the worst thing that can happen is some random guy on the internet calls you bad and the group disbands... never to be seen again

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and if you are with friends, you can ask for help

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the stakes are in fact super low

round pendant
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You don't need routes in like 15 and below

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Just hold W

plush tendon
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^

drowsy comet
#

I see the healer POV every day tho. Tanks have a VIP pass in M+ but ppl expect you to be their daddy

plush tendon
#

Tanks are the MC

#

we get privilege

drowsy comet
#

all fun when you then tank in raid

solid sun
#

No that’s wrong

drowsy comet
#

and ppl mass insult you when you miss a mechanic or dont know something

round pendant
#

I could mentor lil gup but I'm retired sadge

solid sun
#

Pugs do not expect you to be their dad in keys

#

Pugs expect you to be their preferred streamer

#

I’m a certified w route gamer

#

The complaint is consistent

#

“This isn’t the route we are supposed to do”

#

You simply have to learn not to care

round pendant
#

You guys read chat?

plush tendon
#

bro, when we were doing our weekly keys last week my guildies asked "August, do you know where you are going"

#

I said "naw fam, we let it ride"

round pendant
#

I'm too busy holding W

plush tendon
#

had to go back to get % a couple of times

#

but its fiiiine

round pendant
#

10s have like a 80% success rate idk how anyone can be toxic in such braindead content

solid sun
#

I let my friend tank this season because I’m tired

plush tendon
#

theres like 2 keys where knowing % is important

solid sun
#

He already quit

undone beacon
drowsy comet
drowsy comet
undone beacon
#

Played with a guy like that, always talked about how goated he was as a tank and how he spent all this time researching and his routes always came up like 10% short somehow

plush tendon
#

very important to stroke the tank ego

solid sun
#

I’m very self aware

#

I’m just a guy

ebon geyser
coarse bay
round pendant
#

It's a shame none of you were ever blessed with my tanking presence

#

I am him

drowsy comet
lament osprey
#

When are they nerfing brewmasters?

plucky patrol
#

whats pre bis for voidspire for prot war

drowsy comet
#

Furry tails WTHHH

#

?´???????

solid sun
#

Carlwyn only saw Pepega in the monk discord because he also is a traitor

drowsy comet
#

ah wait

#

its april

#

(thank goodness)

ebon geyser
#

i think mawhi and sense need to slap some sense into those wowhead dumbfoks and call blizz and tell them to get their shit together

lofty warren
#

I am legally bound by the tier list to do brew atm

novel temple
#

are we really taking tough as nails in 2026?

undone beacon
lament osprey
novel temple
#

damn, times be a changing

undone beacon
#

It’s the flex point though so you can drop it for like, BSV if you want

lofty warren
#

Even though with pwar I feel much more tank-e and can therefore pull bigger

lament osprey
#

BSV are for the weak

drowsy comet
novel temple
#

that shit hasnt happened in forever

lament osprey
undone beacon
#

We were this close 🤏 to having a big bear season

lament osprey
#

No bear, down with bear

rough nest
#

CBA doing quests again

solid sun
#

Its crazy how we went from bear season to bear discord in shambles

undone beacon
#

Oh nerds don’t forget the pvp “training” quest chain is at the last step now so you can get an easy Mast/Haste hero neck or a Crit/Mast(?) hero ring

round pendant
#

Weren't MT and colossus pretty close?

undone beacon
lament osprey
#

Idk maybe we all join forces and advocate for brewmaster nerfs

round pendant
#

Why'd they buff one and shoot the other

lofty warren
#

Dominance of the Colossus reduces the cooldown of Demolish by 5 seconds when you would gain a stack of Colossal Might and are already at max stacks (was 2 seconds).

What does this mean

drowsy comet
plush tendon
#

Brew might need a bit of tuning (but only for M+)

#

but I hope they dont throw the hammer at them

#

rather see underpreforming specs be buffed considerably

undone beacon
round pendant
#

They should throw the keg at them

undone beacon
#

We must bring other tanks up, not put them down

lofty warren
#

Brew needs like a 10-15% nerf imo

#

Or buff the others

round pendant
#

The hammer is for pally

plush tendon
#

to what though

lament osprey
ebon geyser
#

pshh and you guys say dwarfs are awesome ... look at this with a vulpera butplug

plush tendon
#

their damage is not crazy

#

its really just the aoe self heal

#

that is a little nutty

round pendant
#

Buff my class nerf the rest xeos

solid sun
#

None of it matters

undone beacon
toxic pewter
solid sun
#

Pwar is fine

#

It’s the best tank in the game because we are the best people

drowsy comet
#

oh btw have yall seen that Blood DKs will be able to change the color of their eyes in the next patch

toxic pewter
#

pwarr tanky af

plush tendon
#

Pwar in raid is literally unkillable

toxic pewter
#

i swear we even tankier than brew in some cases yeah i said it

solid sun
#

Everything else is pointless jibber jabber

plush tendon
drowsy comet
plush tendon
#

insane survability stats in mythic

drowsy comet
#

transmogs will go so hard

jovial holly
#

when we say thane and colossus are comparable are we talking tankiness or dps

toxic pewter
#

dps usually

toxic pewter
#

but tankiness too

round pendant
#

Wow different coloured eye glow!!!

plush tendon
#

I prefer Col, playing thane right now

#

but I may try some keys as Col

lament osprey
# plush tendon

Are their numbers on people playing each class? Or parses registered for this?

plush tendon
#

let me see if I can pull it up

#

this would go along with it

tribal wharf
#

cannot solo this bos lol

drowsy comet
#

huh

toxic pewter
solid sun
#

What’s 3k

plush tendon
solid sun
#

All 12s?

lament osprey
drowsy comet
plush tendon
#

yea, brew and prot war are the top dogs right now

#

the BDKs are for grips

novel temple
#

if anything, blizz will just nerf all tank survivability again

undone beacon
#

3k is like all 12s and maybe some 13s depending on how well the 12s went

plush tendon
#

historically a very safe pick for a raid tank (or at least as a raid alt)

light panther
#

What shield will I get if I catalyze it ?

lament osprey
#

Threw it in and find out

plush tendon
#

cant cata shields

light panther
stone tundra
#

Can only catalize armor

light panther
#

Ah ok

drowsy comet
#

my resto druid got his 4pc today and I dropped a cata charge :D

harsh trellis
#

Wtf with this avatar nerf

coarse bay
#

I have rerolled to priest

#

Im sorry that they nerfed us

#

They saw my damage breakdown in blinding vale normal first pull last week when i did the weekly quest

drowsy comet
harsh trellis
#

It's for ptr

coarse bay
#

@solid sun and they still havent fixed the bug

drowsy comet
harsh trellis
#

So its coming soon

cold pilot
#

Should I craft another myth piece? Shield maybe?

daring marlin
cold pilot
#

it's all 12++

daring marlin
#

I sorta like this week's xalatath affix

#

I got it on my lock lol

coarse bay
cold pilot
#

What is it, I havent done a key yet?

plush tendon
#

I just do 12s

#

to avoid affix

drowsy comet
plush tendon
#

I can't be bothered

#

last week was fine

cold pilot
plush tendon
#

it sort of just played itself

drowsy comet
#

its just the second week man

daring marlin
#

I'm 270 with some 250ish accessories still

cold pilot
#

I'm just full hero gear. nothing special. I have done like 65 keys but you know.. i'm on autopilot for the rest of the season

daring marlin
#

garbage doesn't drop

#

maybe I craft a neck or ring

undone beacon
#

There’s a guy in my guild who did over 100 keys last week

#

Crazy shit

cold pilot
#

I have pretty awesome rings and neck so I think I craft a shield

undone beacon
#

Ret pallies man they are freaks

plush tendon
cold pilot
#

My favorite thing about the 12.0.5 stuff I've seen is:

Brewmasters are OP as shit... so lets nerf Thunderclap

solid sun
#

Augusto

#

What happened to tombstone and bonestorm

solid sun
#

Why did you get rid of them

plush tendon
#

they got yeeted

round pendant
#

And guess what, pwar will still do all the content no problem

plush tendon
round pendant
#

Blizzard balancing is always a joke and they do stupid shit

#

play what you enjoy

plush tendon
#

was determined to be too hard

#

also, they removed shattering bones

solid sun
#

Was that the one that made tombstone do big damage

plush tendon
#

and removed CDR on DRW and gave it a flat CD

plush tendon
solid sun
#

I quit

#

Gonna play deadlock with yam

round pendant
#

bone zone

round pendant
#

there's a quest in warframe called The War Within

daring marlin
#

I knew it would be too

solid sun
#

You’re fun af

#

Owned

cold pilot
#

Yeah but did any of you guys get the Felcycle and the Felcycle transmog set?

round pendant
solid sun
#

Need diff wep and shield

cold pilot
#

The shields this xpac are ass. Can't really go wrong with bulwark and i dont even know how that is my weapon lmao

toxic pewter
#

cant use bulwark without thunderfury

#

just how it is in life

#

if u dont got thunderfury start working to get until then change shield at this time

vagrant junco
#

Moving from paladin to warrior for mythic prog. Maybe im just privileged with avengers shield + judgement but is warrior threat generation when adds spawn just bad? Felt like I had no easy way to pick up all of the adds on chimaerus without dps getting slapped

undone beacon
#

Thunder clap go brrrr

#

You can hold avatar to get two thunder blasts as thane too

#

Use heroic throw to get aggro at range

toxic pewter
#

dk grips help a lot on that fight tbh 2 dk for each side is even better

undone beacon
#

Challenging Shout

#

Make sure dps come to you

solid sun
#

It’s so funny that APB knows myth Jungle Bird because he pugged it and killed it

vagrant junco
undone beacon
toxic pewter
#

I will say our snap threat has gotten sorta weaker since we lost thunderous roar... but thane still not awful

undone beacon
#

I’ve had no issues in raid or M+ with threat on thane

vagrant junco
undone beacon
plush tendon
vagrant junco
#

Yea once I have aggro im totally good. Was just moreso i cant plant my feet, chuck a shield and have everything in a 100 foot radius be attracted to me. I have to actually play the game now

plush tendon
#

get aggro on what you can and the big guy, go to the assigned spot

#

if dps die to aggro and a mob is in narnia, thats a RL problem to fix

vagrant junco
#

Heard. Thank you warriors okayge time to point at bad dps and laugh

toxic pewter
#

I mean heroic throw does a lot of threat even be sure u throwing at dudes

plush tendon
#

they are mythic raiders; they should know to bring mobs to the stack point if they have aggro

vagrant junco
vagrant junco
unreal sequoia
#

I know I asked this a bit ago, but Im just throwing it out there one more time. Is it dumb of me to craft a 285 dps weapon, if I occasionally dps. Just so I can pump up my 1h and shield for free crests?

#

Instead of crafting the sword and shield for 2x the crests

#

Im just paralyzed sitting in the crafting menu lol

undone beacon
#

if you're going to play dps, then sure craft a dps weapon

#

if you want to play prot more, dont do that

#

a 285 1h/shield will be better than saving crests

tribal wharf
#

I might give col a try

unreal sequoia
#

What would be the embelishment on the shield be then?

undone beacon
#

Arcanoweave or no embel

tribal wharf
#

See if I like it

cerulean spear
#

The demolish animation is very satisfying

undone beacon
#

Very much so

ornate palm
#

Did I just misread the situation, or does berserker rage not remove the add fear in heroic dreamrift?

undone beacon
#

Berserker Rage is very inconsistent

ornate palm
#

It feels that way.

#

This can’t be the case, but it even feels inconsistent within the same encounter sometimes.

drowsy comet
#

tank ego yayy.. critcake

drowsy comet
#

this +10 Windrunners was something bruh..nobody dared to kick not, and I get shit on for dying 4 times? Not my problem cuhh, learn yo spec

toxic pewter
#

can be very rough in there with no kicks

#

especially the banshee mob

#

if shield doesnt go down and no one kicks it can hurt a lot

drowsy comet
#

the thing is

#

and this is no joke lol

#

"uh no gems or no enchants you get kicked" but was doing straight up ass damage and didnt kick shit bruh

#

ARGHHHHHHHH

coarse bay
toxic pewter
#

:KEKW:

drowsy comet
#

im not stressed or anyhting, but Im just mad people are this egoistic and (i cant say the Rword but) doofus, like wth

#

my ass was having no break to drink just one mana tea, no insta next pull go next go next...

#

hmm why our healer deadge

#

NO SHIT YOU DOOFUS

#

removing kicks from healers was such a stupid decision bruh, but im just here to show you guys teh healer perspective on things.. heh

toxic pewter
#

XD

#

gotta love when the healer rages

#

good times

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
#

lol

#

did u complete it for loot at least

daring marlin
#

I'm crying

drowsy comet
#

nah ngl imma have to get over my anxiety and actually get back to tanking. I am just gearing my pwarr atm but i can EASILY push past 15s if tanks play like THIS in 10s.. like holy shit

daring marlin
#

LMFAO

toxic pewter
#

LOL

drowsy comet
#

fucking doofus everywhere

toxic pewter
#

dude the unprofessional comment was gold

drowsy comet
# daring marlin >unprofessional

This guy was such a menace in chat too, he said he was lagging in a big ass pull and i replied "ey hombre, bad timing for lag" he stood still and almost died. and healing against 20000 plant bastards is hard AF

daring marlin
#

call me unprofessional

#

also

undone beacon
#

Lock, I know your ilvl is top, but you have no enchants, no gems, half of the items are with versatillity... That's a bit unprofessional mate

drowsy comet
#

7 seconds we went over time.

#

and 20 deaths

#

lol

daring marlin
#

Why do gems not carry over when you convert with catalyst but enchants do?

#

rip my 32 prime stat gem

undone beacon
#

because big jewelcrafting wants your gold

drowsy comet
#

anyway dinner is ready

frosty mango
daring marlin
#

Lock, I know your ilvl is top, but you have no enchants, no gems, half of the items are with versatillity... That's a bit unprofessional mate

#

new pasta dropped

tribal wharf
#

maybe hes mad that other lock was keeping up

#

thought hes king shit of turd island

daring marlin
#

I wanna do more keys on my lock

#

destro feels better the higher the key

#

stuff doesn't instadie

undone beacon
#

Listen you dense blob. I know your ilvl is top, but you have no enchants, no gems, half of the items are with versatillity... That's a bit unprofessional mate. Same old as all of the warlocks... ie, ignorance thinking it is educated

frosty mango
#

Ngl I’m not spending thousands of gold enchanting and gemming champ gear

daring marlin
#

some of these enchants are goofy

undone beacon
#

I bought the cheapest shit for the champ gear to avoid getting snipped at by raid lead, and then when i got hero pieces I had my big crafter gf buy me nicer enchants peepoBlush

frosty mango
#

Don’t come at me with your 1 kick you no mechanic-doing dunce

plush tendon
#

damn, I didnt even go that far

undone beacon
#

Fun fact if you're one of the only crafters on a dead server cluster you make a lot of gold

plush tendon
#

I still dont have gems, ring enchants or a chest enchant

#

and I'm 4 bosses into mythic

#

if it aint hero track, I aint putting consumes on it

warm plinth
#

You're hero track in my ❤️

plush tendon
frosty mango
#

My fingers are back

#

Leg is sore

warm plinth
#

GUESS WHO'S BACK, BACK AGAIN, ROID IS BACK, TELL A FRIEND

frosty mango
#

Whatever dev sat at a table and said “you know what warriors need, a ranged kick/silence” was on something

#

I wanna send that guy a fruit basket

undone beacon
#

it is genuinely great

#

i love it

warm plinth
#

He's probably the same guy who designed Gag Order and he's just been waiting for this day for 10 years

plush tendon
#

they did a really good job on the warrior utility this expansion

#

lots of neat stuff

warm plinth
#

I guess it's closer to 15 now, jesus I'm old

plush tendon
frosty mango
#

I wanna like champ spear, it seems cool but

#

Functionally I can see why we don’t take it

plush tendon
#

its not worth the point allocation sadly

tribal wharf
warm plinth
#

Sense flexing his reactions and bullying at the same time smh 😭

undone beacon
tribal wharf
#

i really hope you go all in

#

i ACCEPT

undone beacon
#

lmfaooo

glacial wharf
#

my bad if this aint the forum, but what would yall pick here?

undone beacon
#

You can sim, personally I'd pick pants. Puzzlebox is very unwieldly to use in keys

warm plinth
#

If it ain't DGE, I don't want it

glacial wharf
#

is the cucklebox that good?

warm plinth
#

don't @ me

dusky canopy
undone beacon
#

Its theoretically very good if you can use it on CD without dying... but thats easier said than done

frosty mango
#

You may die

warm plinth
#

But that's a sacrifice you should be willing to make

frosty mango
#

I just view it like s2m

undone beacon
#

Tank death is a small price to pay for big dammies

coarse bay
#

PANTS PANTS PANTS

dusky canopy
#

I use puzzle box in keys just activate a few more neurons

coarse bay
warm plinth
#

There's a reason Shockwave lasts 2 seconds amirite

frosty mango
tribal wharf
#

jelly replicator duh

glacial wharf
#

thanks fellas

#

goin pants

frosty mango
#

“Guys why am I top dps” - Roidburg, probably

undone beacon
#

Never while I live will I play cucklebox on a tank

#

Can we get enduring dreadplates back plz

dusky canopy
#

Bros not trying to have the highest demolish of his life

frosty mango
#

Trinket was just insanely broken

glacial wharf
#

Is the dmg increase that big from puzzle box?

undone beacon
#

But it has a 2 second channel where you can’t block

frosty mango
#

The down side of it is if you run high (truly high) keys then you likely would not use it

#

It’s solid in raid though

undone beacon
#

Yeah much easier to use in raid

#

But honestly I’d still take pants

drowsy comet
#

the thing is the lock who got kicked had full 4pc and was like 265 ilvl, the lock who was "professional" only had 1 piece and was 260ilvl we were lacking massive damage thru the whole run

frosty mango
drowsy comet
#

+10

#

windrunners

frosty mango
#

you were definitely not lacking dam, lol

drowsy comet
#

i was the healer

daring marlin
frosty mango
#

dps braincell problem

daring marlin
#

Though I am using it on CD basically

#

giga dam

drowsy comet
daring marlin
dusky canopy
#

Guilford

drowsy comet
#

Guilford are you playing Pwarr or BDK?

dusky canopy
#

Get aeyji cdm or whatever the hell it’s called

daring marlin
dusky canopy
#

You can attach trinkets to your defensives

daring marlin
#

I mostly ret keys atm

dusky canopy
#

Atleast track it that way

daring marlin
drowsy comet
#

i see

#

yea BDK is pretty sick ngl

daring marlin
#

I've always liked bdk and prot war/pal

undone beacon
#

Guilford is a base ui Andy

#

The way papa blizz intended

daring marlin
obtuse egret
#

Does SS damage scale from main hand weapon or shield? I can only craft one of them this week, wondering which is more important

daring marlin
#

elvui and all that jazz

undone beacon
#

Honestly so real though

drowsy comet
#

i finally got rid off ElvUI, using MUI (muleyo UI) and its basically just Blizz UI in Darkmode

undone beacon
daring marlin
#

Hoping they adjust the base CDM a little more but so far it has served me well

#

Still gonna check out what brew suggested

daring marlin
#

Hopefully I'll have less tanks rolling off ledges later. KEKW

plush tendon
#

I like bettercdm

#

and its very easy to get going

daring marlin
#

It's not the Monk's fault they're all hammered, obviously

upbeat plover
#

I will roll off that edge. You cannot stop me

plush tendon
#

but they 100% need more options in the blizz UI

daring marlin
#

ROFL

#

had a UDK call my dps pad yesterday when I was beating him in overall and on bosses

#

make it make sense

upbeat plover
#

The pad multiplied your boss dmg

frosty mango
#

Hard to pad as a tank

#

Can’t make mobs hit you if you aren’t hitting them

upbeat plover
#

Trying brew has made me jealous they have aoe taunt on statue and can just like aoe taunt across the room

#

Is it needed often? No. Very nice tho

#

And like the cd is just taunt cd/10s for moving statue....

undone beacon
#

On our H Crown pulls our brew just started dropping his ox statue on my priest ass because i stand in the middle of the room to funnel peepo

drowsy comet
#

brew might be the S tier meta tank, but nobody stops them to roll of the edge in skyreach

solid sun
#

It’s b tier

#

For brew

#

This is known

cerulean tusk
#

This is known

undone beacon
#

This is known

upbeat plover
#

This is known

drowsy comet
#

trying my first +2 as a pwar..

#

hopefully no dumb pugs

undone beacon
#

aaaand you ruined it >:(

#

this is no longer known

cerulean tusk
#

Hydrate pash, dont be toxic

#

Gl lil' un

undone beacon
#

You got this lil gup

cerulean tusk
#

One day, one beautiful day, mods will ban you

upbeat plover
#

I feel like you could tank a 2 on a DPS war, so I believe in you

cerulean tusk
#

Dont be toxic

#

Come on

#

Aint that hard

upbeat plover
#

That was supportive

#

:)

cerulean tusk
#

Surely

solid sun
#

lol gup

#

I know you will time the key

upbeat plover
#

See, he's got all the support

undone beacon
cerulean tusk
#

No, +2 is a real challenge and will push his skills to the limit

coarse bay
#

I have faith

cerulean tusk
#

It is a true achievement

tribal wharf
#

alright boys, im doin a 6 as col

undone beacon
#

wow dont be toxic

tribal wharf
#

first ever dungeon

undone beacon
#

smh

harsh trellis
#

Why colossus

#

Do you hate yourself?

tribal wharf
#

april fool

cerulean tusk
#

Go for it, +6 is 3x as hard as a +2, you got this

tribal wharf
#

or is it

harsh trellis
#

It's not your fault

#

It's not your fault

solid sun
#

Colossus is better than thane

#

So

harsh trellis
#

Hey... listen. It's not your fault

cerulean tusk
#

Col is fun to play, why ppl so toxic

solid sun
#

Sounds like yogi loves himself

cerulean tusk
#

Why everyone so toxic today

tribal wharf
cerulean tusk
#

Where is Nim?

solid sun
#

I’m not toxic

tribal wharf
#

yes really

cerulean tusk
#

We need nim

#

To rescue the channel

undone beacon
#

nim is on vacay im filling in

solid sun
#

I’m supporting

cerulean tusk
#

It is over

solid sun
#

I’m anti toxic

cerulean tusk
undone beacon
vital vale
#

gathering will be more monkaS with storm surge cdr nerf. why isnt that an april fools

cerulean tusk
#

gladge they just want our apex to do good dam in the profile

#

That is all

#

This is the only way

solid sun
#

We were Col before

#

It was fine

cerulean tusk
#

Who is doing an aprils fool, making me yellow, to scare poor Archi?

solid sun
#

We’re all yellow