protection

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-dirt-league-vldl-souls-logic-dark-souls-git-gud-gif-19856700

[tribal wharf]

thats how i play any video game

ever since mega man 1

stock pile EVERYTHING

[solid sun]

Yeah it’s the first day of week 2 of keys

[tribal wharf]

then okay, i csn take on the boss

[solid sun]

Probably normal for 15s to hurt

[opal ledge]

i've the feeling playing vers makes u more tanky

[fringe mural]

and still don't use one of the items

[opal ledge]

1200 haste is feeling akward

[tribal wharf]

no

if i have a bfg

i use the bfg

lol

[fringe mural]

Gotta go fast

[tribal wharf]

i am, how you say it

acceleration andy

u want to accelerate, okay

[plush tendon]

[undone beacon]

1200 haste rn means you've given up a lot of other stats so, yeah prob does feel awkward

[tribal wharf]

game on

[jade crane]

What versatility range y'all aiming for? Murlok is showing anywhere from 2-10%

[plush tendon]

yall getting bonked

[undone beacon]

Murlok is not a guide, it is a data aggregation site

[plush tendon]

for talking about vers

[undone beacon]

Sim your charcater

[tribal wharf]

i have 1050 haste and 1250 with procs

[plush tendon]

this aint TBC; theres no def cap to reach

[toxic gyro]

130% like in bfa or don’t bother.

[tribal wharf]

weapon enchant and flask

flask i am static 1180

[warm plinth]

How about...https://www.wowhead.com/item=31986/merciless-gladiators-crossbow-of-the-phoenix

[fringe mural]

Crushing immunity 😄

[tribal wharf]

crushing buttons

thats my guild

[undone beacon]

hot

[fringe mural]

Merciless was s2 right?

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[tribal wharf]

yes

athene

[fringe mural]

Athenewins

[tribal wharf]

MMMMERRRRCLESS gladiatior

[fringe mural]

okay so it should've been Phoenixarmbrust des erbarmungslosen Gladiators

[tribal wharf]

god, that scary, i still remember when athene was a young guy

[jade crane]

So dumb question - you can't sim for survivability, right? I get that vers also has damage implications which is why I'm asking specifically about that stat for survivability

[fringe mural]

wasnt he just famous for his hot gf and playing naked?

[tribal wharf]

athene was the first streamer i ever watched i think or one of them

[loud merlin]

Hey guys, does someone know how to show the time of ignore pain on the health bar at elvui ?

[fringe mural]

i remember him playing naked vs diablo in diablo3 being naked ig and irl

[tribal wharf]

he did get famous off the boob thumbnail yes

[warm plinth]

You can't sim for survivability.

[jagged pier]

survivbility comes from play not stats, because u can survive with proper play at any stat value

so u just play whats the highest output in terms of dps

[tribal wharf]

athene's brand of clown is one of my favorite

[warm plinth]

There's no reason to target a specific amount of any stat except haste, and that's just to be sure you're picking the proper talent.

Except for DPS that is

[fringe mural]

5.6% was the value right?

to get crit immune

[warm plinth]

That wasn't vers though was it

[fringe mural]

5% same level and 0.2 for every one the enemy is above you

[fringe mural]

No it was def rating

[toxic gyro]

Haste crit will most likely will yied most dmg and lower overall dmg taken. Haste vers will “feel” like you’re taking smoother dmg intake. Also not sure what bleeds and dots we can parry this season. So vers will help you a tiny bit against those, but ultimately it’s about cd usage and gameplay overall to deal with those.
Dps overall you want to sim yourself for best results.

[tribal wharf]

yes

cuz our pally tank in ulduar

didnt have the whatever and 40 defense

[fringe mural]

1200 haste is permalust

[tribal wharf]

he neeed

[fringe mural]

you just play on speed

[tribal wharf]

SPLAT

he went

[fringe mural]

Yeah basically

[jade crane]

Perfect answer, thank you!

[fringe mural]

get crushed by gruul

[toxic gyro]

[fringe mural]

if you failed to have sb up you got crushing blows in your face

[tribal wharf]

asmon gold 8 hours wiping to gruul was the funniest and realest raiding experience of all time

[fringe mural]

those times

[tribal wharf]

that was so hiliarous

[fringe mural]

we had one hunter in the raid

who needed an assistant to pull the adds to yogg from the clouds

Because he was failing on his own and we didnt have someone else to do it

so our healer showed him where to run to

He could only faceroll boss

failed every special task we gave him

[solid sun]

I remember that goblin boss in siege

People on specific specs being told they have to do the gauntlet thing

[pastel sleet]

plate boots can be crafter with double haste. thoughts? that seems kinda awesome

[rose karma]

Hey guys, has anyone put together a spell reflect list yet for this season?

[solid sun]

Pins

[fringe mural]

god you guys are crazy

back in my days people just tried using it and got one shot because it didnt work lol

[solid sun]

Why

[fringe mural]

now people look up what can be spell reflected before

"oh he casts something at me, let's try to reflect it"

-dies

okay not that one then

[solid sun]

Some people do

[pastel sleet]

what level does haste start to DR?

[solid sun]

I pay attention to what gets said here and then press w through keys and trial and error whatever I don’t know

[fringe mural]

is there such thing as a softcap for haste?

oh speaking of caps, did someone reach 100% deftness yet?

do the nodes get looted before you click them?

[solid sun]

#protection message

[fringe mural]

okay okay

chill

party pooper plumber boy

[solid sun]

@pastel sleet

[fringe mural]

oh

sry man

i thought you were being mean to me

for saying something profession related

[solid sun]

I talk about professions here

I even send pics of it

Why would I care

[rose karma]

Tyvm

[pastel sleet]

im not refering to itf. im refering to the haste DR from having too much

[fringe mural]

is the buff you get from +2 to +5 showing you de way?

[pastel sleet]

1320 was the answer. i found it

[fringe mural]

like what to pull

if you are a noob like me

[spare estuary]

hey I want to reroll prot from fury i have 4 sparks is it worth crafting a 1h and shield 🙂

[fringe mural]

if you dont raid mythic shield is nice

very

[spare estuary]

yeh it'll be mainly for mythic +

[fringe mural]

then the answer would be yes

shield first, then weapon

[spare estuary]

awesome ty 🙂

i can craft both tommorow

[muted spire]

If you were to get a weapon & shield in the vault, which one is more important?

[spare estuary]

oh true i should wait for that

[fringe mural]

the shield afaik

because the higher your armor rating on the shield, the more you block

which is where our power lies

in shield block

[muted spire]

Cool, ty

[fringe mural]

god i havent even started raiding again or going m+ and i looked up more warrior theory then most... why do i have to be like this, why cant this game let me go

cries

[undone beacon]

idk if I'd call it warrior theory moreso than warrior basics

[spare estuary]

what spec do you put valerraa as, as prot

[undone beacon]

dps

She shreds as dps

[spare estuary]

ooh ty

i was havinfg her as heals lol

[undone beacon]

Yeah I mean you can but its really not needed

Delves arent that threatening, esp when valeera is pulling stupid numbers

[fringe mural]

she also deals quite some dps as heal

which is fun

and she dispels the annoying stuff

but most can be reflected

[undone beacon]

Yeah but she does EVEN MORE as dps and thats more fun cuz pew pew blast

[fringe mural]

i'll try that

mine is 33 now

she already does quite some dps as heal

[unreal sequoia]

Does a crafted 1h sword let me upgrade my 2h to as high as it goes?

[undone beacon]

No

[spare estuary]

so any tips for a dps convert 🙂

[undone beacon]

Read the icyveins guide
maintain shield block
never cap on rage
try not to rage starve
never let mobs get behind you
have fun

[spare estuary]

ty ty icy over wowhead then ? also i spam IP i imagine ?

[undone beacon]

wowhead is not being as actively maintained as our wowhead guide writer retired

Icyveins is maintained by our very own Mwahi

Also use IP when your rage is at or above 70 as a rage dump

Dont just spam it

[clever shale]

for the last boss in Magisters are you guys running out to drop the pool or just leaving it in melee?

im assuming he just claps someone if I run out

[undone beacon]

You can run it out, his autos are ranged

He'll just keep slapping you

[clever shale]

ah ok sweet ty

[undone beacon]

[plush tendon]

my warrior vault

I think i unironically take cloak

since I got crafted myth shield and can do first boss mythic

[oblique quarry]

after we get the achievement for 4pc how often do the catalyst charges actually drop? has anyone seen one yet? and can they come from m+?

sorry to ask here, I legit cannot find a real answer.

[plush tendon]

they come from raid, M+, delves, and pvp

the drop chance is rng

[toxic pewter]

i got this trinket why it suck so much ass

[opal ledge]

what weapon enchanting is better for prot? the aegis one or a dps enchant?

[oblique quarry]

thanks for the quick response, always appreciate you

[viscid rivet]

noobie quuestion: in nexus point xeras m+, should you kite mobs away from the conduit things? on the first packs to the left form entrnace? Im asking coz I just got yelled at by some healer for it saying I should 'gtfo away from conduits' with the packs.

[plush tendon]

[humble grove]

Can confirm they drop from m+. I'm 8/8 from just doing m+ and I think I ran something like 20 dungeons last week after hitting my 4pc

[tribal wharf]

normal mode box?

[oblique quarry]

this is what i wanted to hear, hell yeah

[humble grove]

Yes I believe it gives them a damage amp, I tank the pack away from the conduit

[plain lotus]

then i have had shitrng 0 drops in like 15 dungeons T_T

[humble grove]

Dang sorry to hear that, for further data point: we did a bunch of 10's + not sure if that has any impact

[plain lotus]

ye same 10+ but a friend had better rng so i guess its the struck of unluck

[hollow brook]

Prot warriors, how has prot been feeling in 10-15 keys?

[viscid rivet]

dang I thought it gives some buffs to dps at the cost of some DoT lmao. whats the name of the buff it gives to mobs? is there anywehre I can check it?

[humble grove]

10-13 hasn't felt like an issue. At 14 I've started to feel rough in some pulls, initial gather on the big packs even with healer CD has felt a lil sketch

[hollow brook]

Ty!

Im struggling to continue arms or go prot for instant keys

[dusty ruin]

I thought it was heroic reward

Boo

Maybe I was thinking raid quest

[simple bay]

I shouldnt be ever using revenge as a shard spender ? only shield or IP ?

[humble grove]

You may be able to test it in a follower dungeon

[fringe mural]

revenge isnt exactly a spender since it's on the gcd, you press it when it's its turn

ip is your spender

shield block is used to keep the buff up

[humble grove]

Do you enjoy tanking? Pug tanking can be mentally taxing, you defacto lead the group and your mistakes are more visible and impactful. Lots of people with opinions on your tanking, route, grouping, etc but not a ton of that is constructive or something you can action on. With brew being meta right now maybe physical comps will start taking over and Arms/Fury get a nice spot in that

[solid sun]

Its perspective

You aren’t necessarily the defacto leader

You’re the navigator

In a pug it can be helpful to the mental to just see yourself within the confines of your job and nothing more or less

[simple bay]

ty

and the only self healing comes from impending victory right

[solid sun]

I’m not scrolling up

Are you aware that you press IP at 70 or more rage @simple bay

[simple bay]

I saw your message yeah

[solid sun]

Okie dokes

[simple bay]

so how do I dump my rage ?

[coarse bay]

IP

[simple bay]

Won't I overcapp

[coarse bay]

Its ogcd

[lament osprey]

Ignore pain to dump excess rage

[simple bay]

if I press IP at 70 or more rage what do I do from the rest of the rage

[smoky pollen]

You press more IP

[coarse bay]

You’d follow the rotation

[simple bay]

ok

[solid sun]

No

[coarse bay]

Ss>TB/Tc>revenge

[solid sun]

Cam is right

You still press revenge

[lament osprey]

GUYS YOU GOTTA TRACK IP (Im meme’ing. Don’t do that)

[coarse bay]

Revenge is used when ss and tc/tb arent available

To fish for resets

[simple bay]

ok thanks

in a world where I want to deal as much damage as possible does revenge go over IP

[solid sun]

No

It isn’t either or

[fringe mural]

you could press ip any time

over any spell

but you dont

you just press it when you have 70+

or when you're about to die

if you dont

given you have sb up

[coarse bay]

For mountain thane revenge is pretty much just for resets

[solid sun]

You’re gonna be pressing a lot of SS and TC/TB

Especially if you’re fortunate with resets

[simple bay]

when like I will not take any damage for example on last boss OF SEATT when he takes more damage, do I have a different rotation or spender to deal as much damage as possible

[fringe mural]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-ross-geller-david-schwimmer-drink-a-lot-gif-15947149

[coarse bay]

No SS is big damage

[simple bay]

okok so this rotation doesnt change whatever happens on my screen

[coarse bay]

It isnt really builder spender as much as just resource management

[simple bay]

ST AOE high incoming damage 0 incoming damage etcc

[simple bay]

ok I only played bear druid or warlock

2 builder/spender

[tribal wharf]

did they ever make this a key

[coarse bay]

Ya like there’s arguments to not have SB up with no damage intake, but even that’s something you want to keep up because it increases SS damage

[tribal wharf]

i cant recal

[fringe mural]

of course you dont use shield block if you run away from something and only take magical dmg

[simple bay]

okk

[fringe mural]

but if you hit enemies ss dmg is still important

so shield block > ip

at least if you're not a chicken

[hollow brook]

Hmm good feedback. Ive tanked raid lead aotc in the past in prot spec, not in m+ tho.

I could see peoples opinions being annoying but at the end of the day id have a threechest map up with a good route.

Ive been doing m+ since legion so im familiar with the challenges tank face

Its rough playing arms well, timing 11s no sweat. But waiting 30 mins to an hour for a key cause i keep getting algethar academy for my key and it my highest timed key

[last pebble]

is crucible trinket decent for m+?

[fringe mural]

people will tell you to sim it

i guarantee it

[last pebble]

aight aight

i only have 2 ranks of it

[coarse bay]

When you sim it make sure to select the thingies you have unlocked at the bottom of the sim

[last pebble]

oh word didnt know you could do that

[solid sun]

Trust the robot

[fringe mural]

anyone here played guardian drood?

[solid sun]

Yes

[fringe mural]

is iv guide gud?

[coarse bay]

Ya

Oh for druid

[fringe mural]

yes

[coarse bay]

@undone beacon which bear guide

[fringe mural]

my guardian just turned 90

and i need to run 4 delves before reset

[solid sun]

Pumps mains guardian but he’s busy raiding p sure

[fringe mural]

i got renown 4 today on main

[coarse bay]

Ya idk if id lean on wowhead for bear unless pash says its good, i havent looked

[fringe mural]

so i can get myth crests now

[solid sun]

They also have their own site iirc

[fringe mural]

and hopefully my strong valeera will deal with everything

[fringe mural]

so fancy

[solid sun]

Tbh I always ping pash when I have a question

[cerulean tusk]

@undone beacon is this true?

[solid sun]

Pash is the one who taught me about pressing incarn before a key starts

[coarse bay]

It seems that pumps maintains IV as well

Not sure how good they are, here’s the site

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/guardian/compendium

Like i said idk which source they recommend

Honestly since youre fresh 90 it shouldnt matter

[solid sun]

Pretty sure laser bear is the pick for keys again

[simple bay]

Can you recommend some good prot warrior streamers guys pls?

[solid sun]

Instead of ravage bear

Sense

Cam

[coarse bay]

[cerulean tusk]

RhinoTV when?

[solid sun]

Hmm

[coarse bay]

Plka and im not sure if topicx streams

[solid sun]

Nobody would watch middling gameplay

[fringe mural]

ty

i'll use the iv myth+ build

should be fine for the first delves

[solid sun]

It’s at least good enough for now

Plka is good for sure but sometimes he fotms

Instead of playing Warrior

[coarse bay]

Plka fotms but still does warrior

[solid sun]

So you gotta catch him at the right times

[coarse bay]

He was doing warrior keys the other night

[solid sun]

Good

[coarse bay]

He tanked a 12 my gf was in during s2

[solid sun]

Cam got secondary clout

Clout by association

She does so much damage

[proud dock]

is it possible to make a mouseover macro that sets focus and places a raid marker ?

[solid sun]

Idk

Sounds like hacker stuff to me

[proud dock]

you can do it already without mouseover

[solid sun]

Hackermans

What’s the discord code uhhh code

[humble grove]

I use an addon called FocusMarker Assistant, which creates a macro for you that has this mouseover functionality

[solid sun]

Oh

I typed it out

But you can just do an addon

[proud dock]

thnamk you blessed

[coarse bay]

There are macros for it and i use one, but im not home

Its same as it was just remove the script part and the marker is tm # now

[solid sun]

Are you taking me on a dungeon date when you get home, Cam

[graceful bramble]

how much haste and crit should i have?

[deft relic]

is there a way to see if battle-scarred veteran is up? like a tracker or something? I cant seem to find it in the default CD manager. I only see how to track its buff once it procs.. but I cant find how to track its CD

[toxic pewter]

yo this trinket i got must be bugged its literally doing 1% of my dam

this thing sucks ass

[solid sun]

Another bug oh no

[toxic pewter]

wrecking throw did more dam than it

[waxen frigate]

Throw me some numbers

[solid sun]

No

You’ll dox me

[fringe mural]

i'm cheesing

darkway 11

you can tank the mobs inside the leyline conduits

they'll lose 20% hp every two seconds or smth

even the big nemesis packs

so perfectly fine with fresh 90

only need valeera for the boss

[torn gulch]

Mountain Thane
Storm Surge causes Avatar to increase the damage of Thunder Clap by 10% (was 50%) and reduce its cooldown by 25% (was 50%).
for next patch

Colossus
Demolish’s area of effect strike radius increased to 10 yards (was 8 yards).
Dominance of the Colossus reduces the cooldown of Demolish by 5 seconds when you would gain a stack of Colossal Might and are already at max stacks (was 2 seconds).

[fringe mural]

so slayer slightly ahead again?

will see probably

[torn gulch]

wrong channel

[fringe mural]

oh i thought the other spec was slayer

confused with fury

[safe jolt]

Looks like MT is getting taken out back

[daring narwhal]

they just want us to play col in S2, like TWW

[fresh zealot]

Is loa ring worth a damn?

[coral quartz]

Not ran Xenas much just tried it on a 13 got told im taking too much damage and warriors suck 🙂

[solid sun]

Yo is that really Towelliee

Did I take a wrong turn and end up in the paladin discord

[fresh zealot]

Yeah sup

Haha I'm both prot pal and war for prog

[solid sun]

Heck yeah welcome to pwar

[fresh zealot]

With ocassiobaly grip andy

[warm plinth]

aka the inferior and the superior tanks

[oak ivy]

Awesome thane nerfs blizzard

[safe jolt]

Makes no God damn sense lol.

[mighty valley]

Let brew have this one, it's been a while

[glacial skiff]

Welp time to level brm for keys

[tight hinge]

who cares

[fresh zealot]

Got choice between boots crafts fn loa ring but not sure if it's been simmed well

[glacial skiff]

Prot warrior dead gg go next

[woven perch]

brewmaster is good? nerfs guardian damage again

[mighty valley]

Prot warrior rep looked like the brew bar last season lmao

[coral quartz]

oh is there more tuning

[fresh zealot]

Did I miss some prot Warrior nerfs or something

[coral quartz]

dont even think i habve seen this

[velvet knot]

^

[woven perch]

12.0.5 'tuning'

[glacial skiff]

Hey now you’re prot pal only when this nerf goes live. 😂

Or brm/bdk

[fresh zealot]

Lol

[solid sun]

This is for the .5 patch

With how easy this patch is we will all be done by then :>

[wicked plank]

So we re just swapping to col for .5 ?

[velvet knot]

i prefer col tbh

but im used to thane

[solid sun]

Gathering as col sucks

[hollow brook]

As someone about to swap to prot, rip the thane nerf. Is colo reliable?

[velvet knot]

how come?

[wicked plank]

Zugzug demolish

[fresh zealot]

So is loa ring craft worth or no trying to get my craft in before raid

[velvet knot]

Col does big burst dam and prevents knockbacks on demand

[glacial skiff]

Complain on the forums quickly I guess

[hollow brook]

Ty!

[velvet knot]

col is also way more bleed heavy

[safe jolt]

Blizzard sure is good at Balance changes lately.

[velvet knot]

So you'll get more healing from fueled by violence

[safe jolt]

Noticed another arms nerf snuck in there. As a treat

[solid sun]

I think most of our craft knowers are away rn. Should be able to do a sim for the crafted items and see where they sit

[fringe mural]

good thing i'd never even think about tanking with a kung fu dude

[torn gulch]

yep coincides with the week the voidforge is finished
makes sense

[velvet knot]

So they're nerfing mountain thane because bremaster is 94% of the tank pool?

[fringe mural]

this is so non-immersive it hurts

[velvet knot]

That makes sense

[wicked plank]

What is sense ?

[fringe mural]

he's being sarcastic

[torn gulch]

they nerfed guardian to such a degree that they can't keep aggro anymore and are gonna nerf prot warriors next patch

while brm is untouched kekw

[velvet knot]

to be fair when was the last time brm was relevent

[hollow brook]

My arms has been taking agro from guardian druid for a hot minute now

[wicked plank]

Too many words, i know only zug and zug

[torn gulch]

blizzard balancing done by the cafeteria ladies again

[velvet knot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/southparkgifs-l0HlJzEt0SMAGwNO0

Blizzard picking which tank will be meta

[torn gulch]

i have no problem with tanks being meta but when you just do incredible stupid changes and bury all the other 5 tanks then I have a problem

modify the trash aggro parameters or balance trash and raze damage

[solid sun]

If you think your arms are creating chaos for bears just wait until you show off some ankles

[oblique garnet]

What the fuck did i tune into

[safe jolt]

Also, when Prot warrior is good it's because we deal more damage and/or are just unkillable. We aren't passing out cleanses, or snare removal, or off heals, were not gathering especially well, we don't have an apex talent that casually makes us a healer

[solid sun]

You’re welcome

[mighty valley]

colossus buffs let's fucking go

[solid sun]

Idk do you feel like that’s being kind

I feel like it’s making it more convenient

But that’s cdr on demolish which means more damage so you can fire me

[velvet knot]

its less of a colossus buff and more of mtn thane nerf forcing us to play col

[solid sun]

Maybe with how much demo cdr we get now we will be a force of nature

Did you think about that, xerantis

[mighty valley]

i wasn't gonna play thane regardless and it's a literal demolish cdr buff so

winning

[solid sun]

Yeah. Wizard

Take that

[woven perch]

hate colossus, L

i stomp ground slightly weaker in anger

[mighty valley]

well, you stomp the ground slightly less often

[solid sun]

Hmmmmm

[woven perch]

weaker and less often

[solid sun]

Does the demolish animation include a leg stomp?

[mighty valley]

anyway brew hasn't had a dominant season in years, give them their day

who care

[woven perch]

yes but

[oblique garnet]

Isnt the expansion like brand new

[solid sun]

It’s actually better if we aren’t meta

[woven perch]

they're having their day with or without these changes

[maiden ravine]

that's actually a week earlier than I expected

6 week PTRs suggested the 28th

[solid sun]

Fury doesn’t seem happy

[slow owl]

Quick question for people smarter than me (most people these days). My vault came with heroic Alnseer or Myth Heart of wind.... Any reason i should pick one over the other (minus ilvl)

[undone beacon]

Why was I being pinged what’s going on I’m scared and confused

[tribal wharf]

well then

[maiden ravine]

Blizzard decided Thane was too good

[solid sun]

The German had bear questions

[undone beacon]

Break upon my body yogi
Feel the strength of the earth

[undone beacon]

Ah

Go to dreamgrove.gg for all bear related things and it tends to work out

[tribal wharf]

mage is fighting him

[frank bobcat]

Looks like Sus prot is back on the menu boys

[vestal lantern]

myth track is generally more value in the long run + heart of wind is a good trinket, idk how good for prot tbh, but good dps trinket

sim them though =p gaze v good too but imo myth track is a better choice

[slow owl]

Yeah the wind sims better by like 3k dps. I got myth track tier as well, but it sims lower. I know ther eis an arugment for long term value vs immediate game

gain*

[torn gulch]

I don't like colosus because gathering is just bad especially in pugs

that unload at will

[vestal lantern]

yea look i'd go the heart of wind 100%, u could get heroic gaze or another v good hero tier trinket this week, or next week

[fossil aurora]

Anyone know if the builds for prot on wow head are updated?

[frank bobcat]

Completely agree, feels terrible to gather on Sus, definitely helps now that revenge & shield block have a visual aid but nothing beats thunder clap into avatar into thunder blast

[solid sun]

We recommend iv

[fossil aurora]

Thanks

[rotund parcel]

Is thane for real getting nerfed?

[torn gulch]

yes

[rotund parcel]

Fuck my life

[undone beacon]

Looks like in the .5 yeah

[torn gulch]

with the next patch

a fairly sizable damage nerf

[undone beacon]

Fuck my stupid thane chud life

[median torrent]

there is no way our thane damage is getting nerfed

What is going on

[torn gulch]

ask blizzard

[median torrent]

How does that make any sense whatsoever hahahahaha

[torn gulch]

but yeah as it stands thane damage is getting nerfed

actually insane change backed by nothing

remember brew is untouched

guardian was nerfed to such a degree that they can't effectively keep aggro anymore

[tribal wharf]

how do you get 2 gems for say a neck

like

you know what i mean

[torn gulch]

we don't have that anymore

[tribal wharf]

i cant seem to find out how

[torn gulch]

except a special neck and ring from the last raid

[frank bobcat]

ooh lawd guess who just saved 20k on crafting materials🔥

[torn gulch]

every ring and neck slot only have one socket now

[tribal wharf]

just a special item?

[torn gulch]

that's the neck

and there is a ring as well

but those are the only 2 items with 2 sockets this season

[tribal wharf]

ah

i didnt see it on wowhead

i didnt see it on icy viens

so this was 3rd option to check

[last pebble]

whats with all the prot warrior taking off the apex talents lol

[tribal wharf]

4th including checking the not the auctionhouse

but the craft thing

[torn gulch]

there is no item to add a second socket this season

[opal ledge]

why?!

[tribal wharf]

now it is perfect

[silent harness]

good pull this week

[tribal wharf]

hard to complain about that

[torn gulch]

damn

that's ultra bis all patch

[silent harness]

yep yep

[opal ledge]

i really dont get, prot don't got a lot of damage, why nerf thane so hard?

[last pebble]

welp back to colossus i gues

[torn gulch]

because tank balance is a disaster this patch

monk and 5 buried tanks

[tribal wharf]

what i really i want is hero boots

for catalyst

gloves and cloack catalyst is a bit of a wash for me

not much sense to send it on veteran boots lol

[toxic pewter]

can buy hero boots on ah for 500k

[formal beacon]

Is there any benefit of crafting a 1h sword over a 1h axe at the same level? The speed and DPS look the same and the enchants are the same. There has to be something I am missing?

[marble sundial]

aesthetics

[tribal wharf]

a million if i want 3rd stat

[formal beacon]

How so?

[undone beacon]

He’s talking about buying a BOE with a tertiary

And to answer your question, there is functionally no difference in what you craft

[ebon geyser]

Why they have to touch prot warriors... are they Stupid??

Like we not even meta

[undone beacon]

Sword, axe, mace, all cost the same to make and do the same damage

[ebon geyser]

I swear blizz want less tanks and ppl to quit the game

[torn gulch]

they want everybody to play brew this season

[ebon geyser]

I guess so

[torn gulch]

I was all for guardian damage nerfs until i've seen how they nerfed bear to the point that they lose aggro in pulls

[cosmic harness]

What makes brew that good this season? Don’t know much about the spec

[ebon geyser]

Lock this damn discord

[tribal wharf]

3rd stat is called tertiary

[ebon geyser]

Unkillable and stupid high damage

[tribal wharf]

but thats a big word

[formal beacon]

TY very much for the info and I am sorry for the basic question

[tribal wharf]

leech and such

[ebon geyser]

But brew is literally 2 buttons

[torn gulch]

the thing is all tanks can tank to like top 1% keys and that is enough for blizzard

[ebon geyser]

Keg and breath

[undone beacon]

You’re good. It’s a unintuitive to be fair

[torn gulch]

despite the fact that there is a enormous difference between brew and the rest

[cosmic harness]

Good to know, I got rejected and told “only brew” lol

[ebon geyser]

To be honest get used to it. People only see must get meta

[torn gulch]

yea this season m+ is doomed as more and more tanks will quit

and only brew will play

[ebon geyser]

God this piss me off

[tribal wharf]

also is there spark quest every week now

[undone beacon]

The doom is so fucking strong

Yall gotta chill

[tribal wharf]

like should there be a spark quest today

[ebon geyser]

[torn gulch]

I can't chill when balance is done in the most insane ways with no logic

[ebon geyser]

Lock👏the👏discord👏

[undone beacon]

Prot will be fine. It’s the first bit of tuning for a patch that’s like 2 months away. Plus there’s tuning coming next reset we haven’t seen either. Just breathe

[solid sun]

We’re fine

[undone beacon]

No we aren’t bitch ass paladins

[solid sun]

Colossus was already good

[ebon geyser]

See this is why ❤️ ya 😆

[torn gulch]

there is no logic that says to nerf guardian until they can't hold aggro anymore
there is no logic that says that thane needs nerfed like that

while brew stays untouched

[pallid yarrow]

Didn’t they say it’s a release candidate? Should we assume it’s that far out?

[torn gulch]

12.0.5 comes in 3-4 weeks

when the voidforge is constructed

[ebon geyser]

Also careful Yoda said paladins are good and s tier

[undone beacon]

Where did you see it’s a release candidate

[torn gulch]

wowhead

patch most likely comes april 21st/22nd

[ebon geyser]

See all that happens when Nim is on vacation

[solid sun]

Oh yeah well I’m a release candidate

Everytime I die

So how about that

[undone beacon]

Its ptr for a .5 so I can see that

[pallid yarrow]

😂

[torn gulch]

i mean we'll still do keys but it still feels bad

[undone beacon]

Even then, we’ll be fine

[opal ledge]

comment about on the ptr forum, i think the CM feedback has some weight

[undone beacon]

Colossus literally got a buff too and it was doing well

[solid sun]

Jakey said colossus was already better than Thane

[undone beacon]

Colossus is good it’s just harder to play well

[solid sun]

Idk why he said it but he did

[torn gulch]

yes i will love gathering with colossus and losing aggro to devourers and retri

yee very fun

[undone beacon]

Since you have more strict rage management

[solid sun]

Well then they’ll die and learn

[marble sundial]

anyone got a warriors armory i could see

[solid sun]

Just like last time colossus was the pick

[torn gulch]

they will die and not invite a warrior next time because that is how it works in pugs

which are the majority of keys

[mighty valley]

make friends

[solid sun]

Well

[mighty valley]

the hardest key level of all…

[solid sun]

If they will literally only invite brews they’re gonna wait a while

There’s already a tank shortage

[undone beacon]

I think you overestimate how long people are willing to wait around for a specific tank

[solid sun]

I’m not tryna sit in queue simulator

[undone beacon]

Also, again, prot will be fine

Thane is probably not going to be picked though

Which is a shame for thane enjoyers

But right now Thane and Col are neck and neck, and Col is getting buffed while Thane is getting nerfed

Unless you're a Thane one-trick, you'll still be completely viable

You may just have to, as the kids say, get good

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/i-started-blasting-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-danny-devito-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-blasting-gif-24425727

Me on thane

[indigo crane]

is mastery better than it looks for prot? When chooinsg my cape from the raid quest hte Haste/Mastery one sims higher than the Haste/Crit... (https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tyNzWRNnw4sJqZUfyfNYqK) or am i missing something?

[undone beacon]

Mastery is a good stat yes

There are no bad stats for prot

[coarse bay]

Mastery is good for damage, crit is also good for damage and provides some parry

[indigo crane]

yeah i guess ill better go with the crit then for extra def

thanks

[coarse bay]

I mean if u sim bigger with mastery

[solid sun]

You can follow what the robot says

[coarse bay]

It isnt bad

I feel like i just spread anti sim propaganda

Not intended that way

[solid sun]

You def goofed that one

[coarse bay]

[indigo crane]

xD but well.. i already almost have more mastery than crit

[solid sun]

Doesn’t matter

Robots smart

[indigo crane]

yeah we dumber

[solid sun]

The good players here don’t fret over stats like that

They do whatever sim hackermans stuff they normally do

And then own

[indigo crane]

xD

u correct boss

[solid sun]

Well

Maybe with the exception of haste

They did a lot of math to figure out how much haste they needed for ITF

[indigo crane]

i also feel like it only sims higher because haste takes incredible value

[lofty warren]

brew nerfs when?

[coarse bay]

Dont think less of me but i dont sim all my characters

[solid sun]

You’re just built different

You also have some kind of arcane wizard Macro too

Truly a pioneer

[coarse bay]

Simming is the correct play and i recommend it, but i rarely sim my tanks

[gentle spindle]

just saw them thane changes, shieeeeeeeeeet

[lofty warren]

why the fork wouldnt you sim ur tank

[coarse bay]

Because i dont

[solid sun]

Cam does a lot of damage

[coarse bay]

It’s not a never simming thing, but not often

[solid sun]

Think blizzard sent him a cease and desist letter on sims so he doesn’t break their game

[coarse bay]

I get dms asking for log reviews

Rhino can u review my 🪵

[solid sun]

Yes

I remember when we sent each other logs

Laughing at ourselves

Good times

[coarse bay]

Man im not a shaman

Its official

[solid sun]

Turns out I’m not a warrior either

[coarse bay]

U are the warrior

[solid sun]

You are a shaman tho you are just not an ele sham

You’re a water bender

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-katara-waterbending-magic-gif-18352916

[solid sun]

My nephew watches me sometimes

I had him watch you splash us with water and said you’re the only water bender in the whole game

He believed me

[coarse bay]

What a treasure

[nocturne latch]

Which changes? Im trying to find em lol

[torn gulch]

look higher

[solid sun]

Thane nerfed col buffed

[oak ivy]

feelsgoodman

[vital wind]

I want Blizz to explain that dumbass choice... Warriors weren't breaking anything

[nocturne latch]

Oh god with the buffs and nerfs. Lol.

[torn gulch]

i'm gonna love gathering on colossus

[nocturne latch]

I just want to learn something, then get to stick to it. I enjoyed not having a extra button tbh lol.

[torn gulch]

my favourite thing

[gentle spindle]

the 50% -> 10% dmg is wild

[nocturne latch]

Wait...and they didn't do anything to brewmaster yet? Lol. Jesus.

[torn gulch]

i fully expect brew buffs

[nocturne latch]

I believe it

[torn gulch]

at this point

[nocturne latch]

Ngl that's ... not very exciting.

[torn gulch]

you re gonna play colossus

and have a lot of fun having dps rip fo you

[tight hinge]

ptr doesn't have dmg nerf but does have the cdr nerf

[torn gulch]

i wouldn't have minded this version as much despite the fact that this is still pretty dumb

but the damage as well makes it ultra dumb

[daring marlin]

brewmaster just rolled off the side of the platform in my 14 skyreach

ya hate to see it

[lofty warren]

WHERE BREW NERF

[torn gulch]

we need brew buffs

at least 10% more damage

and some more dr and self healing

[tribal wharf]

god

[lofty warren]

what in the fck is that shit

its not april fools yet

[paper coral]

I dont know how big that is, but im going to run around and panic and cry.

[torn gulch]

i want to look at a key log for collosus and i can't find anything higher than 14's

[lofty warren]

are those notes for 12.5?

[torn gulch]

yes

that comes in about 4 weeks

[lofty warren]

hm

are there brew notes in there

[torn gulch]

no

[daring marlin]

hmmmm

got a charge after two M+

see? It's 50/50

[ebon geyser]

We had super high visibility in race so we had to get nerf.. blizzard logic

[ebon geyser]

I already did and @undone beacon put me in my place

I mean sure I can play my brew and just spam keg and breath and feel yuge...

Smh

I also will wait until smarter ppl say how much is the hit we gonna get. If is trivial is meh then

[ebon geyser]

Im still missing 2 pieces.. lfr and normal are not my friend..

[upper ice]

Does anyone have a good max DPS build for rat keys?

[undone beacon]

i need to learn how to fuck with the APL so i can do shit in Nim's absence

[stoic hound]

what is rat keys?

[ebon geyser]

You already do. You already gave me shit

So proud of you

[undone beacon]

No i mean run the sims on the backend to see the differences

[ebon geyser]

🤣 priorities I guess

[undone beacon]

Normally Nim gets on that but I want to be able to give clarity

[prime quarry]

ragebait ahh reply

[dusky canopy]

[ebon geyser]

I just wanna know how much of a hit we got or we gonna get

Brew cant

https://tenor.com/view/they-can't-keep-getting-away-with-this-jesse-breaking-bad-jesse-pinkman-breaking-bad-gif-6986648139055286153

[lofty warren]

how much cost is the free map

[torn gulch]

free map?

the item that gets you a map in delves?

[lofty warren]

u can buy it

[torn gulch]

you don't need to

you get it from the 3 nightmare preys quest

[lofty warren]

thats like 30 min tho

[torn gulch]

or if you did not unlock those you need 5k undercoins

[lofty warren]

too much time for 1x map imo

[torn gulch]

your choice 30 min to get it for free or 5k undercoins

at a certain ilvl it's not worth it

[mighty valley]

What do you mean keep getting away with it, this is the first season brew has been meta in yeeeaaars

[tribal wharf]

i mean

i can just craft boots

[sharp gale]

3 nightmare prey quests gives you uncapped hero crests each week

[torn gulch]

not anymore

[sharp gale]

oh it was just the first 2 weeks only ?

[torn gulch]

no they hotfixed it

it was supposed to be uncapped only the first time most likely

like most uncapped rewards

[sharp gale]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/hero-dawncrests-from-nightmare-prey-quest-now-count-towards-cap-381062?utm_source=discord-webhook oh yeah

[paper coral]

what did pash say?

[nocturne latch]

Im sure prot warrior will be fine, but as a MT enjoyer, im not really sure i understand why this was needed. lol.

[paper coral]

I have to assume that similar nerfs are coming for monk.

like not even memeing

[ebon geyser]

to chill

[torn gulch]

nah monks are getting buffed

[sharp gale]

why his message is yellow ?

[paper coral]

soi they're basically gonna solo current level mythics

ok

[velvet epoch]

Im bummed about the nerfs but mostly just confused how Brew is untouched

[torn gulch]

we're gonna reach the point where 5 specs are gonna play the game and the rest can unsub
like Df season 2 and it's exodia comp

[paper coral]

what did you do? just get a bunch of procs going on?

[solid sun]

It isn’t like we just got nerfed

We also got buffed

And colossus was already basically even with thane

[ebon geyser]

ANOTHER fun detected

[dusky canopy]

wait they didnt before??

damnit i missed out

hope they fix everyones

[torn gulch]

you only missed 40 crests

not much

[sharp gale]

missed out 40, delete account

go to brazil

[dusky canopy]

that is ball sack

smh

[paper schooner]

Anyone else feel like paper in 10s? Healer is pres and he really struggles to keep me up. I'm keeping shield block up as much as possible and dumping rage into ignore pain when I can. Demo shout on cd. Shield isn't broken. 259 ilvl.

[sharp gale]

ofc he is still here

[dusky canopy]

I tank mobs as arms without die by the sword

[ebon geyser]

this fine folks will need a log

[solid sun]

I like preys…

[solid sun]

Log a run and we can check it out

[sharp gale]

i like them too, but giving you uncap crests was bad

[solid sun]

Is whatevz idc either way

I’m just commenting on that fellow who thinks the content is bad

[sharp gale]

legendary tomrus comment

[torn gulch]

i mean tomrus is a legend on wowhead

[solid sun]

Idk who he is

[paper schooner]

Thanks guys, ill log one tonight and ask again with the log included.

[sharp gale]

he always have THE WORST POSSIBLE OPINION

[lofty warren]

tomrum been playing the pepega for years

[torn gulch]

CCO on wowhead (Chief Complainer Officer)

[lofty warren]

mentor

[sharp gale]

and is under every post since 2005

idk if wowhead yellow comments are bc they got reported too much or bc premium user, bc they always have the worst comment a human can write

[ebon geyser]

what do you guys do in dragonhawk boss in spire? i felt i was getting demolished

[torn gulch]

use your cd's around beaks

[ebon geyser]

the intermission

[torn gulch]

rot damage in intermission is not that big of a problem

[red vigil]

Hi! Any opinions on these Vault choices? Heroic Tier (259) chest or champion (256) Heart of the Ancient Hunger? I have crap trinkets with 82 STR from like delves (both 250). I tank N/H raids, run M+, Nightmare Prey, and T11 Delves, Thanks in advance!

[ebon geyser]

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

[solid sun]

Did Pepega just admit to being a persona?

Am I taking crazy pills

[sharp gale]

Well… he is a functional adult irl, you really thought he is not acting ?

A pepega human wouldn’t survive childhood

[solid sun]

Pepega had never pulled the curtain back

He’s always been in character

[frosty mango]

Pepega is in it for the long game

There are glimpses

[solid sun]

It’s not about not knowing it’s a bit

It’s about his consistency in always being Pepega

[sharp gale]

I don’t know if Bobby in #fury is a persona, or pepega second account

Same cyclic random recurrence, same power to ragebait the whole channel

[solid sun]

Peoega’s power has diminished

Too many regulars here who know better

Maybe other discords fall for it though

[sharp gale]

Yeah these grounds are more immunized

Hopefully there are 50 other channels just in this discord

[solid sun]

He was getting people that were new here at expansion launch though

He sent lil gup into a tailspin

[sharp gale]

Rare Bobby comment which made me laugh

[solid sun]

lol

Idk what it is

But I just cannot pump on fury

Maybe I’m drunk

[woven perch]

i felt like paper until i swapped ITF to Heavy Reprecussions, assumption is I just don't have enough haste yet to keep SBlock up indefinitely with ITF, now the only time I feel like paper is vs the magical weapons in Algethar or if the rogues in Windrunner get their poison weapon cast off

[warm plinth]

Yeah you need 1188 haste before ItF to not run HR

[woven perch]

yeah i was sitting at around 900 with haste flask at the time

[tribal wharf]

Me and pepega are one in the same

He is me and I am him despite I know next to nothing about him

[toxic pewter]

XD

[tribal wharf]

We male dumb mistakes constantly

[woven perch]

~deathray putting on the helm of domination- I mean helm of pepega~

[tribal wharf]

Point in case

[woven perch]

"NOW WE ARE ONE."

[tribal wharf]

Leaving that as is

[solid sun]

Yogi is so awesome

So many times I’ve thought to myself how similar they are but never said it because I didn’t wanna be rude

And here he is

“Yea we the same dude”

[spiral jetty]

they're the yin and yang of this channel

[solid sun]

What’s Pepega’s Doom

[cosmic harness]

Same here

Heavy repercussions helped a lot

[spiral jetty]

discord

[gaunt igloo]

so, what's your suggestion guys: mythic chest or heroic alnseer? I'm still a couple of weeks away from mythic raiding

[spiral jetty]

scratch that

tier lists

[paper schooner]

I'm probably in the same boat tbh. I'll try it tonight, thanks for the suggestion!

[fallow fern]

guessing the correct pick is always the weapon? havnt crafted one yet

shoulders replace heroic.. but weapon probably much better

[mighty valley]

yeah prob weapon

[kind crane]

Is there an add-on that lets me see the heal/defense cooldowns as a tank?

[sharp gale]

Apparently Bobby is not pepega second account

[daring marlin]

LMFAO

[severe olive]

If you have crafted a myth sword and shield is it better to open vault as fury or arms?

[solid sun]

Prot

[mighty valley]

Fury and arms are identical now

[torn gulch]

now that i've calmed down i'm curious how much is the damage loss from the 12.0.5 nerf to thane

[solid sun]

"Now that I've calmed down I have decided I am still fixated on it."

[torn gulch]

yes but i am calm

[solid sun]

Well that's a positive step at least

[torn gulch]

i have no prob as colossus I don't like gathering on it
and i play m+ mostly

and in pugs mostly

[severe olive]

thanks 👍

[solid sun]

It's true

We don't recommend foregoing myth track weapons and shields simply because we max crafted weapons and shields

[edgy patrol]

Are the PTR notes about Storm surge a massive nerf?

[solid sun]

Currently colossus and thane are neck and neck

colossus is getting buffed alongside the thane nerfs

so likely the optimal play will be to pick colossus instead of thane

[edgy patrol]

[heady galleon]

Is there a way to see what spells can and can't be reflected?

[undone beacon]

maxroll.gg has a list thats being continuously updated

in-game, no

[proud dock]

can you stil macro in, targetting the void emissary in keys?

[undone beacon]

I dont see why not

[toxic pewter]

damn the trinket dropped

didnt win it tho 🙁

i have cursed myself with trinkets this season

i am CURSED

[slender bison]

Got 240 Myth crests saved...for nothing. Really thinking of Heart trinket

[undone beacon]

For April fools can we just pretend this is brewmaster discord

[spice iron]

Does crafted weapons not save on crests for main hand?

[toxic pewter]

well you also will need to increase your shields ilvl in conjunction with your 1h weapon

alternatively you can get a high ilvl 2h weapon

and you will then be able to increase 1h and shield ilvls subsequently

[bleak breach]

What you mean? You got a bis myth weapon?

Why would you go a hero trinket instead?

Or myth puzzle box

[slender bison]

Can craft weapon, 3 ilvl is not the end of the world. And I hate the casting trinket especially when all your GCDs are occupied with not dying

Weapon it is I guess

[bleak breach]

I’d craft weapon and take the box

I don’t think 1 trinket use will kill you

[slender bison]

Idk, that crit proc saves you from lots of bleeds via parry

Thats why Pacemaker was so powerful

[civic spoke]

run this addon and a plater profile that shows what mob is casting and who its targettinig for double the info

[ebon geyser]

why you want us happy lol

[slender bison]

Im not familiar with crafting. If we craft shield, do we also put embelishment on it?

[undone beacon]

You can, though typically you want to put your embel on a cloak/wrist since you’d rather have a 6/6 myth shield eventually

[slender bison]

Makes sense. Ty

[gray spruce]

Is it normal that hero crest are capped to 200 but myth are 300 ?

[errant wagon]

FELLAS I GOT MY FIRST RANK 1 PARSE ON A MYTHIC FIGHT

[undone beacon]

Nice!!

[errant wagon]

❤️

averzian

i'm sure someone with their reset gear will take me over soon but I'll cherish it while it last

[undone beacon]

Both hero and myth are capped at 300 this week

[gray spruce]

rip bozo i should reroll a new char ?

[undone beacon]

Are you EU?

[gray spruce]

yeah but myth are 300

[undone beacon]

Huh. Might be a UI bug

[gray spruce]

ahhh blizzard moment

[wicked plank]

Hello, might need help with my vault.
Have chest, pants myth track (cata angle) or weapon crit haste avoidance, what should I take ?

[tame jasper]

Myth weapon @wicked plank

[undone beacon]

Can always , but weapon typically is best bet

[wicked plank]

Did the sim but it's complicated with the craft in the weapon slot

[undone beacon]

A 6/6 myth weapon > a crafted weapon in the long run

[swift raven]

Is that true even if you already have crafted weapon? These are my options. The Dragon games equipment sims way higher over my currently crappy trinkets

[undone beacon]

Dragon Games is sim bait

The trinket doesn’t work half the time in practice

And yes, myth 6/6 weapon is better than myth crafted weapon

I would take weapon and lock the slot

[tame jasper]

Agree. And recraft embellishment on cloak if you have it on weapon so far.

[hollow spruce]

is shield or trinket better? crit mast shield

[ebon geyser]

prob shield, icy veins has the trinks we want

[mighty valley]

I’d take shield, all myth shields are basically equivalent

[tame jasper]

Yes with listi g trinkets almost every DPS also needs (and in all raids I know they are prefered for such item)

So I do understand why he takes it into consideration (would do too if I have a heroic gaze for example). But I agree on your advise in this: Take shield.

[unkempt acorn]

Is there a good way to track Ignore Pain?

[jagged pier]

The default ui tracks it fine

[opal ledge]

how good is this in champion track?

[undone beacon]

Not many ways to proc the effect

But also

I’ll tell you once again

[opal ledge]

i dont got the tank trinket from firelands im sad

is 100k absorb every minute sounds fun

[ebon geyser]

we lost one already

[mighty valley]

he’ll be back in eighteen months when prot warrior is meta again

[ancient pine]

Hard Choice. Don't have any set piece yet from the previous weeks, so i could take the Myth Hands and catalyst my 4-set then. Or the Heart of Wind. What do you think? 🤔

[true oxide]

😭

[errant wagon]

why sad 🙁

[drowsy comet]

Okay I might be a complete jerk, but I had to do it..Started a raid group for normal Chimaerus, and invited everything that isnt leather so I could get this one set piece

I had to do it I really wanted this damn set xD

the whispers i received...

"why no invite? links aotc achiev

im such a unethical bastard holy

absolutely worth it

[next star]

what spec are you choosing for the vault?

[sand condor]

Gang, did i just see colossus buffs

[torn gulch]

yes for 12.0.5

[narrow prawn]

colossus is so boring

[unique axle]

Open vault hoping to get ANY set item beside gloves > get gloves

The other 2 items are shit trinkets

Do I get 272 1/6 myth gloves or just get a socket? I got 276 hero gloves

[next star]

Did you guys open in prot spec or fury?

[narrow prawn]

ofc you get 272 myth

use your damn catalyst

and throw these 276 gloves at the trash can

[opal ledge]

Into the frey angle i guess

[opal ledge]

get gloves, you will get a free myth upgrade to 276 by having a upgraded gloves, that will save u myth crests, not bad

[ancient pine]

how good is heart of wind (myth)? choosing between this and set hands in myth

could get this trinket from m+ and upgrade it to 276 at least

see it on icy veins as an overall "good trinket", but not BiS

[torn gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[unique axle]

my pieces suck

y-day i got 276 hero belt that i might catalyst

but the rest are 263

[narrow prawn]

why are you gonna catalyst a hero piece lol

if you have the myth gloves in your vault

catalyst the myth gloves

[unique axle]

the myth gloves are a set item

[torn gulch]

huh?

[narrow prawn]

even better

grab the gloves

[unique axle]

?

[torn gulch]

do you have 4 set before you re thinking of catalysing an offset piece?

[unique axle]

i only got set gloves 💀 the rest are just 263 ilvl items that im not sure if i want to catalyst

[woeful trellis]

5 trinkets….

[crimson furnace]

some thoughts????

pls help 🙂

[torn gulch]

do you reach 4 piece if you catalyse everything?

[unique axle]

yea

[torn gulch]

then catalyse everything take the myth gloves

and then when new charges start dropping from content

catalyse better gear

[unique axle]

really? even 263 items? over 276 offset belt?