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solid sun
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I was top dps the whole time

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It was fkn sad

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I couldn’t believe we killed everything except crown

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Pretty sure I was green parsing the whole time too

coarse bay
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I bet straight 100s

crude pumice
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Got it so its not worth crafting wep and shield with myth crest stone? if i get unlucky tomorrow?

solid sun
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I put my sweet tea in a frosted mug to try to emulate brew

undone beacon
solid sun
plush tendon
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and see what box gives

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if box give no wep or shield, you can craft

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but shield craft aint worth if you are doing 1st boss mythic

undone beacon
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Essentially
-Open vault as Prot
-If you are myth raiding, first boss drops a shield
-If vault weapon, take vault weapon
-If vault shield and not mythic raiding, take shield. Craft Weapon
-If vault has neither and not mythic raiding, craft both sword and shield.

coarse bay
undone beacon
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For the long term you want a myth 6/6 weapon and shield, but crafting a weapon and shield are also the biggest and easiest boosts to both damage and survivability you can possibly get

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I'm not myth raiding on my warr so i crafted both a sword and shield this week

toxic pewter
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what a good third craft u thhink

coarse bay
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Low ilvl

solid sun
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I don’t have enough myth crests yet lol

undone beacon
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Embell wrists/cloak, or low ilvl upgrade

toxic pewter
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just replace low ilvl item is it wild im actually considering making a darkmoon trinket lol

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how cooked am i

coarse bay
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I think jewelry isnt a bad craft slot while u have crafted wep/shield too

undone beacon
toxic pewter
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blehhhh

undone beacon
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So i wouldnt reccomend

toxic pewter
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yeah thanks didnt even realize

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yeah ill make a ring

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probably

undone beacon
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A ring is good if your stats are out of line

toxic pewter
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hmmmmm

coarse bay
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Just check your options for ring/neck drops, i havent yet

toxic pewter
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yeah true

solid sun
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Why not bracers or cloak

undone beacon
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The correct answer, as always, is to sim it

coarse bay
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If nothing good and u have poo id craft personally

coarse bay
undone beacon
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use droptimizer and set it to epic professions

toxic pewter
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ok

coarse bay
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Its low budget pieces, low ilvl pieces, jewelry

undone beacon
coarse bay
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Outside of wep slots being the largest upgrades for all specs in the game

toxic pewter
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ngl never even knew rraidbots had that

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lmao

solid sun
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I have to level my shaman now too

lofty warren
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In academy which dragon should you talk yo at the starts?

solid sun
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Is there a new triple threat achievement

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Or is it still valid for this season

undone beacon
undone beacon
solid sun
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I’m gonna do it this time

crude pumice
undone beacon
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I'll do it if they give a different title

undone beacon
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We try our best here to be helpful

solid sun
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Skyhold more like skyhelp

coarse bay
crude pumice
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damn thinking about first myth boss drop shield its kinda giving haha. hard to pug tho. just planning to get 3k this season and duelist

undone beacon
solid sun
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Call 1-800-SKY-HELP for our official prima guide to WoW Midnight

undone beacon
solid sun
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I still have no clue

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I just follow people and slap stuff

undone beacon
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tic tac toe boss

coarse bay
undone beacon
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on mythic the adds have a shield and you gotta dispel people on the shield before you can pop the adds

solid sun
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Cam is a good healer

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They were tryna stress him out but it didn’t work

undone beacon
coarse bay
undone beacon
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At least keys where mobs don’t insta pop

solid sun
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I have been whelmed in keys

undone beacon
solid sun
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Cam’s friend was trying to bet me Cam’s hand in marriage vs 500k gold pieces

undone beacon
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I just drop mass dispel on myself when I get the mark

solid sun
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Because they knew they were gonna stomp me on the meters

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Marks is clearly bugged btw

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Way too much damage

crude pumice
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I do wanna get Cutting edge but damn gearing up dps on M+ is cancer hahaha. I like that we are the prio. Getting invited to +10 even im only ~250 with low io

undone beacon
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People need tanks, there’s a billion dps

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Simple as

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When I’m pugging on my shadow I try and rope a tank or healer in with me for faster invites lol

coral quartz
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With routing I’m finding I’m always over by like 3/5% in some dungeons I really need to lock in I’m struggling to figure out where I’m going wrong I was looking at tactyks routes initially. Best thing is to keep doing them and adjust slightly?

undone beacon
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Keep tuning them yep

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Do you have Mythic Dungeon Tools?

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Sometimes websites like keystoneguru have outdated versions of the dungeon. I had that issue with Pit

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MDT is an addon that adds an in-game route planner

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its very useful

coral quartz
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I am using that mate yeah but sometimes I still go wrong first time maining a tank

warm plinth
undone beacon
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Sometimes extra shit get pulled, sometimes routes dont go as planned. Its all trial and error

coral quartz
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Oo not tried that one

undone beacon
warm plinth
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SEO?

undone beacon
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search engine optimization

warm plinth
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Idk what that means

undone beacon
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try typing in "pit of saron" routes into google, threechest aint even showing up on the first page

coral quartz
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Still timing them I guess but would be nice and it’s pit and mc I’m usually over

undone beacon
undone beacon
gentle spindle
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is criminal that MDT doesnt show the prisioners u have to free on pit

ebon geyser
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i really wish you could import the routes to the game instead of having another monitor up

undone beacon
ebon geyser
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yeah but like an overlay

undone beacon
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You can with MDTGuide

warm plinth
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You can just look on the site itself

undone beacon
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Puts a small version of MDT in the corner that tracks pull by pull

ebon geyser
undone beacon
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Its another addon

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A companion addon

ebon geyser
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u trolling me monkahmm

undone beacon
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It updates as you clear mobs and moves the map around to the next pull its super cool

warm plinth
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I don't think it has an overlay. It just makes it smaller and does a pull-by-pull as you clear shit

undone beacon
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why would i troll you Carlwyn peepo

coral quartz
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What the hell isnthat

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Addon

toxic pewter
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mdtguide sounds great

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gonna try it

undone beacon
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Yeah its not a full overlay its masically a route minimap

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MDTGuide

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Super slick

toxic pewter
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been actually wanting something like that lately

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as I continue to learn my routes

coral quartz
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Ahh sick will have to try that thanks mate

undone beacon
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i spread the good word of mdtguide peepo

ebon geyser
torn gulch
solid sun
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Need a camera only mode for dungeons where you can fly around and highlight all the packs you want to fight

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Before you start a dungeon

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And your party can view what you’re doing

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Surely that’s not hard to code into the game :>

mighty valley
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I'll call the addon Warlock Uses Eye Of Kilrogg And Streams Their POV On Discord

lofty warren
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Ia there a way to see everyone in your groups ilvl through details like you used to in tww?

kind urchin
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If you pull like a demon possessed maniac the dps won't pull for you. They'll be too busy fighting to survive they won't even consider it.

brazen tusk
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hello there is there any addon for spell reflect wa ?

solid sun
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No

jagged pier
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u can add target of spell to nameplates

outer willow
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@cold pilot yo just coming back to let you know that you’ve enhanced my gameplay lol.

How is it that after so many seasons, I didn’t know wrecking throw was so amazing. Thank you again homie.

calm aurora
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was gonna ask if there was the spell reflect guide setup yet found it in the pins. fucking love it

tribal wharf
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doesnt matter about timer when it comes to vault right

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if i can over time it i will gladly spend 2 hours wiping in pos 10

buoyant mirage
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did you guys craft the paladin shield? or what embelishment did you use?

brazen tusk
ebon geyser
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also IV guide will set you on the right path

jagged pier
brazen tusk
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i can use my eyes but i cant hold it all spells in my brain 😄

jagged pier
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just remeber the big ones thats all i do

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they rest just use it as a DR

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theres only like 3 bosses where its big

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4 i guess but 1s a deflect

brazen tusk
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i see some plater modes but they are old what u think if we can change the inside ?

undone beacon
mighty valley
lofty warren
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So many debuffs look like they are bleeds but they are not. Guessing same is BS

outer willow
lofty glen
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overall 10+ magist

outer willow
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.... is a snare a "movement speed-impairing effect"?

jagged pier
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that works on like nothing

outer willow
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If so, can I use this during the chains first pull of Seat?

jagged pier
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its terrible

outer willow
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oh

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:[

solid sun
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Unless the fury version is different

jagged pier
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i said like nothing

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i didnt say on nothing

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that might one of the very few things

solid sun
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I know, just wanted to point that out in case you didn’t know

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I assumed it didn’t work

outer willow
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trying to see what node i'm using that I shouldnt be so I can get that for seat

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hard to trim

jagged pier
outer willow
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maybe I drop

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It really never helps me.

jagged pier
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piercing should be intim nowdays

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but second wind

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or rage cap talent

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u dont need rage cap talent

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just send rage

outer willow
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yea I dont think i've ever seen my rage go over 100.

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ty

warm plinth
outer willow
opal ledge
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tips on algethar first pull without dwarf racial? x.x

outer willow
undone beacon
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split the pull

lofty warren
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Dwarf racial removed the dot. Otherwise ur gonna have beg your healer to spam you/bop cancel aura, split into 2 pulls

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Even kiting doesnt really work if I recall those flowers move fast af

gentle spindle
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do lower keys give more % per mob?

daring marlin
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you'll have cds rolling anyway

coarse bay
outer willow
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She's abusive.

daring marlin
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and the cycle will be complete

outer willow
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hahaahah

lofty warren
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Tbh 10-12 keys are super easy I was doing +2 chest on 11s at 250 ilvl

gentle spindle
# coarse bay No

hmmm im getting over% of what MDT supposedly says will be 100% solid 🤔

outer willow
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do you guys use the MDT addon or a second screen for the route?

coarse bay
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Mdt to make changes, but off memory in dungeon

lofty warren
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I was only focused on getting 8 10+ done on brew and pwar i didnt even look at any routes

coarse bay
tribal wharf
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who have 10 pos

toxic pewter
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very nice

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9 is basically the same as 10

daring marlin
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I love blasting in there

tribal wharf
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we had a wipe cuz i attempted to merge 6th prisoner

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and we didnt get the kicks

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if i had locked down the casters we would not have wiped i gues

daring marlin
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Yogi is gonna get 8 10s completed tonight just in time for vault tomorrow

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the chad

tribal wharf
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ya right

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i dunno about that

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1 myth gear more than en ough for me

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doesnt matter what slot

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i will use it

daring marlin
tribal wharf
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god,, well hopefully right

fringe mural
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I killed nullaeus now too

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died the first time because i failed a kick lol, 2nd try

solid sun
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Listening to some Britney Spears rn at work

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Feels good

fringe mural
fringe mural
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The phase changes were the most difficult part

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having all those debuffs on me at once

plush tendon
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sounds about right

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the 50% phase change is prob the roughest

fringe mural
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Yeah

plush tendon
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but you can shockwave to reset stacks

solid sun
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You know

fringe mural
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i did

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that saved me

solid sun
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Everytime I’ve tried to run through the library in magisters terrace I’ve gotten caught

plush tendon
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by the books?

solid sun
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By the wizards with dotted lines

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And once by books

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Idk why I’m usually good at that stuff

fringe mural
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but the ogre died on his own after 25%

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i got him to about a third until nullaeus was active again

gentle spindle
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why is bloodborne a choice node with sudden death monkahmm

fringe mural
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he doesnt really deal much dmg, but the void zones are annoying

tribal wharf
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we monday

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the hell

fringe mural
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Does nulleaus give weekly myth crests?

jagged pier
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no

fringe mural
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i got 5 from looting him and 30 for idk what

tribal wharf
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probably achievo

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there is more than likely achievo tied to it

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which 1 time per character

fringe mural
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ok

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So i need to get delvers journey to lvl 4

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to get more myth crests without doing m+

tribal wharf
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not big delver personally

fringe mural
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in the 4 gilded chests of t11

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well i'll take a look

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i'll focus on the crafted shield first i think

daring marlin
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Not worth the time imo

plush tendon
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not until I can go in there with a level 60 dps valeera

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and slam it in 3 minutes

tribal wharf
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there needs to be like a first time daily 3x valeera exp

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which at below like lvl 10

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20

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is basicalll 80% of her lvl

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or else i will never interact with it

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i have her level like 14 or 15 or something, and so for my purposes she is best as healer

cerulean tusk
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Valera was pointless for ??, why would you care about her level at all?

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It is done and dusted content

tribal wharf
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i only did the ? boss last i knew about

cerulean tusk
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Go do the ?? version, it is free

tribal wharf
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cuz i remember i had to try it like 8 times on monk

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that and im not sure the ping to tell her to do things works for me

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probably some box i didnt tick

cerulean tusk
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I am just glad the content is apparently being played and enjoyed

toxic pewter
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is this the real Mcconnell

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XD

cerulean tusk
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Sure

lofty warren
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Real McDonalds is on the asmon server which isnt sarg

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
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@tribal wharf u know mcconnell right was that the real one i jsut grouped with

pearl ravine
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on topic question, do yall use execute in mob pulls or is it better to just spam shield slam/clap/revenge?

cerulean tusk
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Dont use EXE on AoE

tribal wharf
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he wanted some loot

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garuntee it

plush tendon
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those guys still play wow?

cerulean tusk
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McC never quit WoW, neither did asmon dandy

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This is known

plush tendon
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was not known to me

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I legit thought at least Asmon stopped playing

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to pursue... whatever he does now

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react videos? idk

ebon geyser
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and how do i do thsi sorcery

toxic pewter
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DUDE

drowsy comet
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OLD MAN

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sorry sadge

tribal wharf
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crimson desert apparently

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i mean

cerulean tusk
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This is known

tribal wharf
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the issue is

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they need to add in the item of asmongold ultimate desire

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some mount or whatever even he cant stay away from

fringe mural
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i thought i had quit for good

cerulean tusk
fringe mural
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then my wife made me return

cerulean tusk
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The backstab and twist of the century

fringe mural
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kind of

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but true

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well i'm playing dnd with my wife and kids now, so

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Tells you everything you need to know

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#nerdlifegoals

cerulean tusk
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#ChildrenYearnToFarmHerbs

fringe mural
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well they do kill rei lun for me

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so i'm on it

cerulean tusk
undone beacon
ebon geyser
undone beacon
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you can now minimize the MDT window further

pearl ravine
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i blame pilav for the shit healers im getting in my m10/m11s

undone beacon
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and keep that in the corner or smthn

fringe mural
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Do +9 keys count as a casual experience for a seasoned tank?

pearl ravine
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"this game is too easy blah blah"

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mfs queueing for +10 and higher, unable to dodge simplest mechanics

undone beacon
pearl ravine
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yday had evoker healer +40 deaths in m10 nexus

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today i had resto druid unable to dodge mechanics in skyreach, we abandoned after 1st boss

fringe mural
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I think highest i did were +12 in legion

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but that was some time ago ofc

lofty warren
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Its all relative to the characters gear. Like +9 is not for casuals if they have like 200 ilvl

pearl ravine
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think i started running mythics once my ilvl went above 230

undone beacon
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I mean I had no issues tanking 10s at 245 ilvl and a shit shield so

daring marlin
undone beacon
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It’s all relative

daring marlin
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HOW MUCH DID YOU DO @toxic pewter

toxic pewter
lofty warren
toxic pewter
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SKYREACH 12

daring marlin
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those guys suck

toxic pewter
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lol

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+2'd it but yeah

lofty warren
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Sometimes you get goobers in your group if ur pugging you just gotta suck it up or leave

daring marlin
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are you pulling small bro

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you a lil baby

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huh

toxic pewter
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lmao

daring marlin
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HUH APB

toxic pewter
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i mean hmmm

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i did giga first pull

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and many doubles

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but some chains

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i cant deny

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some trash in there hurt a lot

daring marlin
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LIL BABY TANK APB WON'T PULL BIG

toxic pewter
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lol

daring marlin
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SAD

toxic pewter
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its actually true

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i should jsut pull more

daring marlin
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😂

toxic pewter
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but im always worried

lament osprey
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I don’t trust dps to kick

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Hence no big pulls, always die to blinding light

daring marlin
toxic pewter
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ok

lofty warren
drowsy comet
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Remember this is what pugging looks like smh

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anyway glad i got this resto to 2000 rating

daring marlin
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I don't even look at healing tbh

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idgaf

upbeat glacier
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I'm at 251ilvl and feel like im always getting gaps in shield block uptime. using the M+ thane build with in to the fray. just not enough haste? even with shield charge filling the gap i still get caught with my pants down

arctic finch
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These icy veins guide are a scam why would u take ravager over tough as nails

ebon geyser
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@undone beacon might not reach 10 this week but this might be game changing. also i see it tracks live what is that

arctic finch
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Also they are taking haste over sb uptime . Absolute a omination.

upbeat glacier
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so just a zug vs mit tradeoff? at least until u have enough haste to pull it off?

upbeat glacier
undone beacon
undone beacon
lament osprey
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Where is the fucking rat 🐀

undone beacon
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On vacation

drowsy comet
lament osprey
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Smh

undone beacon
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We miss him dearly

arctic finch
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Ok fair enough for the ravager thingy

daring marlin
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Nimchip is in the desert

undone beacon
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Tough as Nails ends up being our flex point that can be shifted into other options as while it does a lot of damage, that’s all it does. Some people swap it for BSV

lament osprey
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BSV are for people who don’t trust their healers

lofty warren
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Archon talents diff bloodsurge/bloodborn

arctic finch
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Whats the name of that talent that gives us dmg increase after 250 rage spent . Isnt that kinda bad?

jagged pier
undone beacon
arctic finch
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No way man

undone beacon
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It also increases rage generation and gives a free ignore pain

arctic finch
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How is it good

jagged pier
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how is it not good?

arctic finch
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How does it increase rage gen its so minimal

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Its like 1 ip per what? 30 sec?

undone beacon
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50% more rage on our main rage generator is not minimal

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And free casts of a defensive are free casts of a defensive

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It plays very well into fueling the rage machine and keeping the rotation smooth

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With no extra thought required

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There is no talent you could swap it for that accounts for that much damage, rage, and defensive value for a single point investment

outer willow
upbeat glacier
undone beacon
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Shield charge grants shield block

outer willow
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What the fuck.

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How do I play so long and know so little

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Where does it say this?

upbeat glacier
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on the tt i think haha

undone beacon
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On the tooltip

outer willow
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Yep. Right infront of my face.

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Thank you

undone beacon
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You learn something new every day

outer willow
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I really do

coarse bay
tribal wharf
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i died once, and we had a bunch of like, random flies dropping off

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and then they say, for final section in the cave, you have to go its a gauntlet

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but we killed the boss anyway

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thats a mythic now?

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it says 272 like others

oak ivy
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How does one live first pull AA 12 or higher? The dot from the lashers just trucks the shit outta me

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Tried leaping away but it seems to be infinity range

coarse bay
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Kite, cc, dps pump harder

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At start wait for the pat and go left

tribal wharf
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this one says 7 will give 272

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hold on log time

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its gunna be shit

frank bobcat
jagged pier
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its 100 yard range

tribal wharf
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if i get a chaence i'll create a private video of that with the log running in the background

oak ivy
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Oooohhh okay

tribal wharf
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or as attachment

oak ivy
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So once it's casting it is going to hit me, but if I'm out of melee they wont cast it

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?

frank bobcat
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What i do is start with shield wall, then, once I pop my cheat death, I just high-tail it away from the lashers with piercing howl & heroic leap, they will just do nothing as long as you aren't in melee

oak ivy
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noted

frank bobcat
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This pull became so much easier after finding this out on some random reddit thread lol, once you get it down it goes from one of the scariest pulls ever to pretty easy

waxen frigate
frank bobcat
tribal wharf
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so this information on wow head is somehow out of date or wrong

waxen frigate
stoic hound
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sorry for dumb question, but is haste rating the overall haste? e.g. on my warrior the current haste rating is 541 only?

undone beacon
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Not the %

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Your haste rating is 541, yes

dusky canopy
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@lusty grotto first night of mythic chim happening later, predict outcome

tribal wharf
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few ways to go about haste thing

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that addon

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and this one

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they are, true stat value, for bottom, and narcissus for top

coral quartz
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MDTguide is there much set up to it?

coarse bay
undone beacon
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I got him in dms dont worry

coarse bay
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You have to import or create your own routes

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But nothing else

tribal wharf
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if its the blue box on thescreen one

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no

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you just put your route in

undone beacon
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but for the lurkers, no additional setup needed for MDT guide, you can now drop it to a smaller size, move it around, and it'll track pack by pacl

tribal wharf
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and when you go to place

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it will say, do this do that

waxen frigate
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@tribal wharf how’s your day going today, good start to th week?

tribal wharf
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we didnt tim the 10

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but we didnt total crash out

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minor grumbling at best

waxen frigate
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You’ll get it next time dude

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What did you learn from it

outer willow
tribal wharf
coarse bay
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I didnt know it added that either

tribal wharf
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4 mounts lets go

coarse bay
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Havent used mdt yet

tribal wharf
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im gettin all 4

undone beacon
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mdtguide my beloved

waxen frigate
tribal wharf
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all of them

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counts towards 350 mount

undone beacon
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im excited cuz thats another 2 for my collection

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almost at 1k

tribal wharf
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one of them is just a giant rat

waxen frigate
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That’s sick

tribal wharf
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this one is perfect for herbalism runs

jovial arch
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In what order do I skill the middle skill tree?

undone beacon
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does not really matter

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tho getting capstone sooner is good

jovial arch
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okay, ty

charred ivy
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is solar core igniter a decent trinket?

jagged pier
#

sim

charred ivy
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was thinking also shield effect

jagged pier
#

defensive trinkets kekW

ebon geyser
#

i dont remember when the trade post had actually good shit in it.. 3 months of just crap

charred ivy
#

i mean i havent rly dropped any other anyway xD

dusky canopy
coarse bay
ebon geyser
#

At what ilvl you can comfortably do 10s

torn gulch
#

depends on the player

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i've done them at 255

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seen people under 250 do them

undone beacon
#

I did most of my 10s at 245 ilvl

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but that was with a reliable healer and pulling very safe

dusky canopy
#

Or if you’re rich
Ilvl 220

solid sun
#

Who wants to do three 10s with me tonight

desert moss
solid sun
#

This is high value dungeoneering.

ebon geyser
#

im at 256 and only done a 4 LMAO

desert moss
plush solar
#

Who knew IV would become so crucial to survival one day 😄

ebon geyser
ebon geyser
#

also to open vault do we send it as prot or dps?

jovial arch
#

I whish I could transmog my shield into a one-hand-sword and do some "furry" tanking

desert moss
#

Pips, can anyone give me advice on smth…
So first pull after first boss, Skyreach nasty pull… I managed to kite a bit but asked Shami for totem and was doing some weird jumping and charging in general, felt a bit stupid, pretty sure there is a better way. Any opinions

desert moss
#

For us prots ofc

unreal sequoia
#

Can someone talk me of a ledge, Im watching all this mythic+ recap stuff, and I feel like Im griefing by playing this spec. I shouldn't switch right

dusky canopy
#

Stop watching that garbage and play the spec you enjoy

daring marlin
#

😂😂😂

dusky canopy
#

Lmfao

dusky canopy
#

Bro thinks I’m doing anything other than queuing 10s at 170

daring marlin
#

What keys are you doing?

dusky canopy
#

I will not do the world content a second time

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Actually refuse

daring marlin
#

Brew does as he pleases

unreal sequoia
#

Yes and Im working on 10+ right now, but its been awhile since I've last played so just gettting my chops back

spring tusk
#

How important are crafted weapons for prot?

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Kinda wanna play prot and dps not sure which weap to craft 😄

daring marlin
#

Tank shortage is real.

sacred quartz
narrow prawn
#

i did it

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i conquered the algethar 12

sacred quartz
#

Kiting/ cc is only way, you can't face take high stacks

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It drops very fast if you step back

mighty valley
spring tusk
#

Maybe best to craft the fury weapon and try get swrod and shield drops then ?

narrow prawn
#

i crafted the myth version for both and fuck it

sacred quartz
#

Defensively, shield at 285 is big.

outer willow
desert moss
sacred quartz
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That's basically what I do, 4 or 5 stacks then drop. Also good dps know by now how dangerous is for tanks

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And most groups lately dps has been focusing and ccing those

desert moss
#

I was thinking about hamstringing each individually XD

undone beacon
sacred quartz
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I use javelin and back up , in and make em snap

outer willow
sacred quartz
#

Monk bounce is great there too

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Doesn't hurt to tell ur dps to burn them first, they go down very fast

desert moss
#

W8 doesn’t our stun stuns three ppl if u spected into it in mountain tane?

sacred quartz
#

You can if you just focus on stepping out. Can hero leap other side of pack, charge back across to far mob, stuns, all the things

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My hammer hits 3 yea

fringe mural
#

how does the dmg distribution look for st

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i didnt really use wrecking throw because i tried to not waste any rage and catch every ss possible

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and i'm not sure if the ingame dmg meter counts tc dmg on the other dummy

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they're so close in silvermoon

mighty valley
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Not terrible, would be easier to tell from a log

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Shield charge is weirdly low

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Wrecking throw is the absolute tiniest damage optimization imaginable unless there are shields involved, wouldn't stress it

frosty ferry
#

What are people doing for their vault? Got both wep and shield crafted, thinking of going arms vault to skip defensive trinkets. Wep or shield upgrade feels so minor

tribal wharf
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fury vault is dead

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if thats what you are asking

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no 1h

frosty ferry
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Yea fury vault is never the play

undone beacon
#

technically a 6/6 wep and shield are better than crafted. A shield drops off the first boss of myth though so

frosty ferry
#

either prot or arms, but prot vault feels like a waste

undone beacon
#

Ideally you open in prot until you have a myth wep and shield

tribal wharf
#

i'll take whatever i get in there

ebon geyser
#

i rather arms but idk if it even makes a dif than fury

frosty ferry
#

Oh right fury doesnt have 1hs anymore right?

undone beacon
#

arms and fury vaults are identical now

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correct

frosty ferry
#

yea leaning towards dps vault then, nightmare if most of the myth vault is dungeon tank trinkets

undone beacon
#

To be fair most of the dungeon dps trinkets are ass too

frosty ferry
#

yea... weird season this time

bleak breach
#

Yo yo, in first boss on mythic what are you guys doing with the taunt swap. Was ending up with 15-20ish stacks of debuff by the time the adds died

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Or is that normal? I was fine, just seemed like a lot

undone beacon
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Kill adds faster peepo

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Cant really swap until adds are dealt with so, adds just gotta go down

fringe mural
warm plinth
#

No auto logging has a dummy option that I'm aware of; you'd have to log manually.

solid sun
#

Ghash I heard you decided you wanted to do keys with me

warm plinth
#

I would begin distrusting whoever told you that rumor.

narrow prawn
#

just failed a seat +13 because i fucked up the route

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i'm so sad

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killed lura and then we all noticed there was still 4% left

tribal wharf
#

ya, at the start of the dungeon

solid sun
tribal wharf
#

the dudes dont seem to count for % and have to go to void part

warm plinth
#

I don't know how to code, and I definitely don't have the patience for MMO players haha

solid sun
#

That’s fair

strange cove
narrow prawn
#

I missed a pack after the third boss

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i was following yoda route

strange cove
#

ah right, yeah kinda sucks i ported back to the start but all the mobs give so little count that were left

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probably wasted like 3 mins

tribal wharf
#

wtb hero track defensive trinket

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then, offensive

strange cove
#

dreadscale seems good kinda want that

outer willow
#

There’s a four pack right there but you loop back to grab the 3

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Feels really awkward

narrow prawn
tribal wharf
#

at long last

#

defensive trinket

undone beacon
#

Is that what you were farming pit for

tribal wharf
#

yep, drops most set slots too

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just farming general hero gear thajt doesnt want to drop

narrow prawn
#

finally resilient

tribal wharf
#

seat as well for the same thing

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just, get it out of the way and have it

narrow prawn
#

2956, idk if i should go for 3k today or wait reset to grab a decent item

slate void
#

hello, i'm still new to tanking but i'm wondering what the class brings more than the other tanks
it seems like warrior doesn't have much utility and can't really heal himself up, so what does warrior bring more ?

narrow prawn
#

aura

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we are aurafarmers

tribal wharf
#

go for 3k

#

let them know

narrow prawn
#

but ehhh, we have a decent amount of CC(2 aoe stuns, fear), mass interrupt

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an attack damage buff

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warrior has a history of not being a class that brings much to the utility table

#

this is not a protection problem, it's a warrior problem

fringe mural
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or decent

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not much in between

spice iron
#

Send crests into 3/6 hero track shield before mythic tomorrow, or hold out in case shield drops from first boss?

fringe mural
#

i rarely encountered "alright" warrior players

hardy snow
lament osprey
#

Just send that shit

ashen shale
#

Im dps main and need some advice for tanking. Why the hell does it feel like a job to keep up shield block/ignore pain at a 100% rate? Am I just to newbie on prot warri or just bad and think to much into it while tanking M+

lament osprey
#

Going to paying gold for better upgrade, after with mythic crest

hardy snow
#

oh right, i forgot first boss is 1/6 myth, so you will want to upgrade hero first anyway

spice iron
#

Only got 2/6 in main slots I want to upgrade, and I'd "lose" a lot of crests by being early, so I ponder if it's better to hold on until Voracious

hardy snow
spice iron
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But wouldn't 4-5/6 be free, and you'd have to pay for the 6/6 before doing the mythic 2/6?

hardy snow
#

yea it would

undone beacon
#

Use IP to not rage cap

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Try to get to as close to 100% SB uptime

#

Swap Into the Fray with Heavy Repurcussions

waxen frigate
lament osprey
undone beacon
#

Yes

narrow prawn
#

HR is busted

undone beacon
#

You need 1188 haste rating to swap to ITF

narrow prawn
#

Yall have no idea now HR save asses

undone beacon
#

ANYTHING less and you run HR

solid sun
#

The wall is back

#

I think my break from tanking is fascinatingly over already

narrow prawn
#

I took a break from dpsing

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...a very, very long break

cerulean tusk
#

Ok, but at what haste % do I spam IP?

solid sun
#

At least 7

cerulean tusk
#

I kinda want to try a key where I just focus on spamming all rage into IP

#

Gotta be horrid

brisk cloud
#

is that 1188 with the 8% itf or 1188 raw haste?

undone beacon
brisk cloud
#

so next season probably

tribal wharf
#

so i unlocked the 4set pc

sand lagoon
#

@undone beacon so if i have 694 haste, i should be running HR and not ITF

tribal wharf
#

and i only got 1 catalyst past that

sand lagoon
#

@undone beacon cool beans ty for the info!

undone beacon
brisk cloud
#

Is there those like, 300 haste, 50 crit rings in this season that were on every tww final boss? I haven't really looked at the loot tables for the raid

undone beacon
#

There’s a pure haste ring from the last boss of March

tribal wharf
#

caverns isnt that good of a dungeon for me

torn gulch
#

289 303 pure haste ring

tribal wharf
#

wtf am i running that for lol

torn gulch
#

with 2 sockets and a special effect

#

and a neck with 2 sockets as well damn

#

with giga mastery

tribal wharf
#

cuz, if i go farm seat for the trinket, i will have dual on use trinkets

#

so, i gues i wanted the auto trinket with mastery

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like at hero

brisk cloud
#

the windrunner haste one is prob better to farm for a passive trinket right?

torn gulch
#

yes and it has high uptime as well

#

in the region of 50%

tribal wharf
#

nexus has a ton of crap i want to loot

fringe mural
#

That ring

torn gulch
#

i mean that ring is giga bis for so many peeps

fringe mural
#

Saptors paw is also nice

torn gulch
#

and it will the coined every week until you get it

#

or from vault if youre lucky

#

as it is a very rare drop

#

only 2 pieces whole tier with 2 sockets

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both coming from MQD

fringe mural
#

i'm missing haste on gloves, waist, boots and a ring

#

and have 850

#

and only 250 ilvl, so 1200 haste should be doable this season

torn gulch
#

i had 1100 at 263 with certain gear

#

with gear optimisation it will happen

fringe mural
#

just got a 86 haste chest from a delve

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250

torn gulch
#

especially at 290-291 ilvl which will prob be the final ilvl for the season

fringe mural
#

eternal voidsong chain neck with 200 haste is nice

undone beacon
#

I need that alleria neck for my priest

fringe mural
#

oh is that from alleria?

#

i think i got it from somewhere else

coarse bay
#

Im missing haste on nearly everything because all i did on my warrior was the 8 vaults

solid sun
#

I’ll craft you something

#

What you want

coarse bay
#

Im already crafted wicked

solid sun
#

Emissary of the Craft

coarse bay
#

Im something of a shield and boot crafter

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And a sword crafter

solid sun
#

I have sent 0 crafts

coarse bay
#

U should do a wep after vault

#

Big uppies

#

And will be free uppies on that hero sword u got if u didnt send already

undone beacon
#

I made a shield and a weapon on the Warrior because I’m not touching myth

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But holy moly it was not cheap

#

I think it cost me like 40k overall

fringe mural
undone beacon
#

I do not do professions because I find the system bloated and unfun

#

I just buy the mats and make guildies craft me shit

fringe mural
#

okay

brisk cloud
#

They made it A LOT less... mainable I guess is the word?

fringe mural
#

it's a little sad the alleria neck proc is useless

brisk cloud
#

The barrier for entry is under the floor

undone beacon
#

It’s a lot less friendly for someone who doesn’t want to bother with figuring out skills trees and optimizations to just craft shit

fringe mural
#

but the stats are really nice

fringe mural
#

i hated the old professions

undone beacon
#

It is certainly a pillar of the endgame I do not have any interest in truly engaging with. Just like PvP

brisk cloud
#

The midnight changes are a lot more "don't give a shit" friendly

fringe mural
#

if you dont give a shit, just go herbalism and sell a lotus each hour

#

profit

brisk cloud
#

df and tww were kinda degenerate but midnight is WAY more straightforward

undone beacon
#

I was like sure on my priest I’ll go enchanting and flip some enchants for easy gold, and then the skill trees are like 3 sets of layered bullshit lmao

undone beacon
#

Well I pawn lotuses off on my guildies so they can make me flasks

#

Works quite well

coarse bay
#

I literally craft my own stuff

#

And i think its overall a negative

#

It cost money to train the skills, and i still have to buy the mats

#

It might save me gold across the expac

#

But its just for convenience

undone beacon
#

I think it takes a fair amount of time to turn an actual profit on shit, unless you’re like a dead server crafter

coarse bay
#

It takes an alt army to make a good amount unless u make all the money right off the start tbh

undone beacon
#

My GF is one of the only high rank scribes on her cluster and she rakes in money for crafts, doesn’t even actually charge for shit just makes stuff and people tip well

#

She made 40k on a staff Craft the other night and I was jealous

#

But then she bought me a chest enchant and I was happy so peepo

brisk cloud
#

I dont think ive ever made a weapon for someone I got more than 5k tip 🥀

fringe mural
#

or you just get lucky skinning

#

basically

fringe mural
#

if you get a few majestic hides a day you can live off of it

#

at least rn

undone beacon
#

I made a mint selling augment runes right before season start

coarse bay
#

I know somebody that has like 30 alts doing majestic hide daily

undone beacon
#

Plus a few BoE and recipe drops

brisk cloud
#

btw does anybody know why augment rune prices fucking died?

fringe mural
undone beacon
#

I think I made around 2mil between launch and now

undone beacon
fringe mural
brisk cloud
#

they're cheaper than they were after the infinite augment rune dropped in wws3

coarse bay
fringe mural
#

augment runes give mediocre stats

undone beacon
brisk cloud
#

also it's easier to get a good parse at the beginning of a season

#

so those rank 1 parse pushers

#

a lot of mid-highcore guilds also buy like 1000 of them at the beginning fo expansions

coarse bay
#

I mean if everyone is going for the early rank 1’s i feel it’s even harder

undone beacon
#

Also cloth was going for a lot in the first week or so and it was nice

#

50g per piece of bright linen was big money

#

Few hours in shadow guard point made a couple 100k

fringe mural
#

i enjoy crafting my own stuff, especially the profession tools

#

the purple ones

#

but it takes a lot of dunduning for that 😄

#

still missing an egineer for the jewelcrafter tool

#

but i'll fix that soon

undone beacon
#

I’d rather just go dick around in the world peepo

#

Gotta max my renowns

#

Get more mounts

#

Waiter waiter more mounts

#

I’m gonna hit exalted with the Slayers Rise rep without ever going into war mode

tribal wharf
#

i alreaddy did 100 renkown boxes from rept

#

paragon

undone beacon
#

Lies, mods ban him

tribal wharf
#

well, its the truth

#

and you can check the logs

#

cuz i have pictures of it

solid sun
#

Yogi

#

Please send pash 100 pictures of 100 boxes

undone beacon
#

100 pictures of 100 boxes each

toxic pewter
#

just got mythic cimaerus to 1% feelsbadman lol

#

surely i must kill

tribal wharf
#

hm

torn gulch
#

before reset

toxic pewter
#

can i even get hall of fame in a pug

#

how that even work

torn gulch
#

oh it's a pug nvm

toxic pewter
#

damn lol

torn gulch
#

scratch that

toxic pewter
#

why i not in a guild

undone beacon
#

You won’t get HOF

toxic pewter
#

wtf

undone beacon
#

has to be a guild run

toxic pewter
#

that lame af

undone beacon
#

The fact you can pug your way to a mythic chim kill already is wild

torn gulch
#

i think 3 mythic bosses will be decently puggable later

#

they are puggable now but in like 1-2 months peeps withh do first 2 and chimaerus

#

and fire coins at chimaerus for the trinket

solid sun
#

Pugging m chim rn is nuts

#

Can’t believe you nearly killed it

#

It’s the first week

tribal wharf
#

eat it

#

33 paragon

#

call me a liar lol

undone beacon
#

old rep detected opinion disregarded

#

i was talking about midnight renown ya butt

tribal wharf
#

i say eat it

coarse bay
#

buuuuuurn

#

gotem

#

sorry pash but its gg

solid sun
#

Did pash just lose to yogi, chat

tribal wharf
#

as long as this thing is a myth

#

i dont really care

#

i did a 10 but it wasnt on time

#

literally any slot any effect

#

dont care

#

long as its better than what i have even marginally

coarse bay
#

i believe in you yogi

#

its gonna be good

solid sun
#

Yogi is a hero

tribal wharf
#

im just a man who's circumstances went beyond my control

solid sun
#

Yogi when are you gonna do keys with me

low arch
#

guys, is anyone here who is willing to look at my logs since I cant interpret and tell me please why my dmg is more than shit compared to others?

#

no clue what im doing wrong

undone beacon
#

Yeah post em

undone beacon
#

First thing I see is a disturbing lack of Shield Charges

low arch
#

I only do it when I run out of shield block but it seems its wrong 😄

mighty valley
#

Oh nvm

#

Yeah press it on CD it’s a good button

undone beacon
#

It is a damage nuke

#

use it as such

low arch
#

wait, does it say I only used it one time? that cant be

undone beacon
#

our tier set literally doubles its already high damage

#

1 cast 4 hits is what it says

mighty valley
#

I think there is a WCL bug where it doesn’t log casts in melee

#

Or from range

#

One of the two

low arch
#

no way I only casted it once in that dungeon

#

but that alone cant be the reason why my dmg is so shit

harsh trellis
#

ok sooooo

#

avatar gets gutted

#

but monks get to keep their root and snare break

solid sun
#

Comparison is the thief of joy

harsh trellis
#

Pshhh just give avatar back the root and snare removal like we had

mighty valley
#

it was a pretty bad place for a root break since we really really wanted to press it on CD

harsh trellis
#

sure but it was still there for that purpose

solid sun
#

In that log

#

It looks like 77 revenge and over 400 ip.

#

I wonder if maybe there’s too few revenges

#

Someone better than me might be able to determine that though

#

Just seemed like a large difference

gray pecan
#

how do you guys swap on p2 of crown?

#

most pugs i'm in the co tank wants to hold position and have boss run to them

#

thing is our taunt is pretty bad at pulling attention when u need it

#

there's a weird delay.

#

any tips?

onyx hearth
proud dock
#

which addon are people using now to automate talking to npcs in keys?

harsh trellis
#

So if you got rooted like you do in Mag Terrace you could pop Avatar and get out of it

ocean heath
#

so if you're losing IP instantly, that's pretty bad right?

#

barely got an 8 algethar at 242 and i was fighting for my life lol

steel forge
#

I just need to vent. I have done 34 10's/11's without an upgrade.

Im TIRED granpda, i don't wanna do no more dungeons!

harsh trellis
#

what build are you running?

ocean heath
#

mountain thane wowhead one

harsh trellis
#

I never find myself fighting for my life in AA... were you trying to pull the entire first room?

solid sun
#

We recommend IV over wowhead now

ocean heath
#

nah half the plants ata time

#

spamming impending victory for the heal lol

harsh trellis
#

I mean you shouldnt need that for the heal

solid sun
#

the plants have a bleed now

#

they're harder than they were last time we were in AA

harsh trellis
#

Yeah they are

heavy sparrow
solid sun
#

I know you're only pulling half the room instead of all of it like a lot of people are now but they still need to die

ocean heath
#

what's the best way to chain defensives? wall, shockwave, wall, SB?

heavy sparrow
#

Straight up getting some skin in the game helps @ocean heath

onyx hearth
solid sun
#

berserker rage with fearless doesn't work on a lot of things

#

Shockwave is a mixed bag imo

#

You can sync up autos and that's not good

#

Shockwave and then leaping away to kite is probably chill

#

Shockwave and backpedaling to try to stagger when mobs get back into melee range can help

harsh trellis
#

Berserker rage doesnt do shit anymore

ocean heath
#

yea i noticed losing half my hp instantly when i charged into a pack

solid sun
#

It does work on the chain debuff in seat, though

mighty valley
#

well, it does what it always used to do lol

harsh trellis
#

Berserker rage and also every man for himself doesnt do anything

mighty valley
#

but yeah, slows that are bad enough that you'd talent a cleanse aren't common

harsh trellis
#

its like you gotta swap to dwarf

sharp gale
#

I always have berserker talented monkahmm

harsh trellis
#

and since Wars are "the mobility class" we got some mobility hamstringed

solid sun
#

Well, I never held avatar for root cleanses

grave vine
#

Trinket Gloom-Spattered Dreadscale any good for keys? It appears to have nice absorb and nice damage done

solid sun
#

So I don't really think it's a big loss tbh

mighty valley
slow pilot
#

are yall lusting on algethar academy boss 2? and do u go wind first or fire?

harsh trellis
#

Wind first

#

then fire

#

Lower level keys 1-10 doesnt matter you can pop fire and also lust during that phase and burn it down

#

but wind then fire usually

#

Also make sure you snag one of the wind orbs when you see it

#

Haste buff and you can move against the wind easier

fiery sable
#

Hello everyone peepoHappy
I've seen some questions about how to contact me about spell reflect guide additions / questions. I don't read discord chats that often but feel free to DM me if you think you found something preferably with a log.
https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide

near salmon
#

Algethar's last boss is so weird. I get pulled right into flying orbs every time

#

when she does the AOE pull thing

green pilot
#

How big are 2 set and 4 set this season for prot

past ginkgo
#

Which one are people enjoying more, or is one just better between Eternal Egg and Rotting Globule?

fluid widget
#

I would look for a different trinket imo

#

Eternal egg at least seems to have some useful value with the haste?

toxic pewter
#

wherre my hall of fame

coarse bay
#

Lol I play every day for hours. I hit 3k and aotc and ce chimmy without hof then go to PvP where I work to became the worlds highest rated vulpera arms warrior in solo shuffle
These days I spend my days world pvping if any of you have been in war mode in NA CHANCES are i have killed u
I am a very powerful individual
My /played is like 6 years or some shit

#

Grats apb

#

Big achievement

undone beacon
#

Genuinely wild to pug that lmao

#

How bad was it?

toxic pewter
#

9 hours straight

#

LOL

coarse bay
#

LMAO

#

Wild

toxic pewter
#

and i was in bstance entire time just pumping dam

coarse bay
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It’s a crazy achievement, unfortunate it didnt hof, id say pugging is harder lmao

toxic pewter
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Yeah like i just dont have a mythic guild lol

coarse bay
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Dumb that they tie the achievement to guilds and not players

toxic pewter
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my guild is still in normal

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5/9

coarse bay
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Go help them out

toxic pewter
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yeah i actually will good idea

coarse bay
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Man i wish i had that kind of determination

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Thinking about 9 hours of prog with pugging

toxic pewter
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I did a tacticle move at the end

coarse bay
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Apb im hanging a picture of you on my wall

toxic pewter
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i told them alright guys

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this the last pull

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ima head out after

coarse bay
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Lmao

toxic pewter
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they couldnt bear to lose me