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It was fkn sad
I couldn’t believe we killed everything except crown
Pretty sure I was green parsing the whole time too
I bet straight 100s
Got it so its not worth crafting wep and shield with myth crest stone? if i get unlucky tomorrow?
I put my sweet tea in a frosted mug to try to emulate brew
Are you going to be doing mythic raid?
If you haven’t crafted yet you may as well wait and see what you get in the vault. But generally speaking we recommend crafting shield and weapon and then replace them with myth track
since we are so close to reset, id wait before crafting
and see what box gives
if box give no wep or shield, you can craft
but shield craft aint worth if you are doing 1st boss mythic
Essentially
-Open vault as Prot
-If you are myth raiding, first boss drops a shield
-If vault weapon, take vault weapon
-If vault shield and not mythic raiding, take shield. Craft Weapon
-If vault has neither and not mythic raiding, craft both sword and shield.


For the long term you want a myth 6/6 weapon and shield, but crafting a weapon and shield are also the biggest and easiest boosts to both damage and survivability you can possibly get
I'm not myth raiding on my warr so i crafted both a sword and shield this week
what a good third craft u thhink
Low ilvl
I don’t have enough myth crests yet lol
Embell wrists/cloak, or low ilvl upgrade
just replace low ilvl item is it wild im actually considering making a darkmoon trinket lol
how cooked am i
I think jewelry isnt a bad craft slot while u have crafted wep/shield too
It counts as an embellishment
blehhhh
So i wouldnt reccomend
A ring is good if your stats are out of line
hmmmmm
Just check your options for ring/neck drops, i havent yet
yeah true
Why not bracers or cloak
The correct answer, as always, is to sim it
If nothing good and u have poo id craft personally
Both good too
use droptimizer and set it to epic professions
ok
Its low budget pieces, low ilvl pieces, jewelry
Outside of wep slots being the largest upgrades for all specs in the game
I have to level my shaman now too
In academy which dragon should you talk yo at the starts?
Bronze for Haste
they usually add that halfway through the season lol
I’m gonna do it this time
Nah not gonna be raiding due to time constrains. fuck work. Really thankful for this guys
I'll do it if they give a different title

We try our best here to be helpful
Skyhold more like skyhelp
Ill do it anyways because its fun 
damn thinking about first myth boss drop shield its kinda giving haha. hard to pug tho. just planning to get 3k this season and duelist
Healing makes me go oh no no no
Call 1-800-SKY-HELP for our official prima guide to WoW Midnight
First boss of myth this time around is a lot more annoying than like, Plexus or Vexie imo lol
tic tac toe boss
It’s more exciting than dps
on mythic the adds have a shield and you gotta dispel people on the shield before you can pop the adds
Idk man have you played shadow that shit is kinda satisfying in keys

At least keys where mobs don’t insta pop
Mass dispell propaganda
I have been whelmed in keys
I’m our teams only priest rn 
Cam’s friend was trying to bet me Cam’s hand in marriage vs 500k gold pieces
that's exactly my plan
I just drop mass dispel on myself when I get the mark
Because they knew they were gonna stomp me on the meters
Marks is clearly bugged btw
Way too much damage
I do wanna get Cutting edge but damn gearing up dps on M+ is cancer hahaha. I like that we are the prio. Getting invited to +10 even im only ~250 with low io
People need tanks, there’s a billion dps
Simple as
When I’m pugging on my shadow I try and rope a tank or healer in with me for faster invites lol
With routing I’m finding I’m always over by like 3/5% in some dungeons I really need to lock in I’m struggling to figure out where I’m going wrong I was looking at tactyks routes initially. Best thing is to keep doing them and adjust slightly?
Keep tuning them yep
Do you have Mythic Dungeon Tools?
Sometimes websites like keystoneguru have outdated versions of the dungeon. I had that issue with Pit
MDT is an addon that adds an in-game route planner
its very useful
I am using that mate yeah but sometimes I still go wrong first time maining a tank
threechest.io >>>>> keystone.guru 
Sometimes extra shit get pulled, sometimes routes dont go as planned. Its all trial and error
Oo not tried that one
agreed, but keystone has better SEO 
SEO?
search engine optimization
Idk what that means
try typing in "pit of saron" routes into google, threechest aint even showing up on the first page
Still timing them I guess but would be nice and it’s pit and mc I’m usually over
bascially fancy words for gaming the search engine algorithm to show up first in search results
is criminal that MDT doesnt show the prisioners u have to free on pit
i really wish you could import the routes to the game instead of having another monitor up
agreed
you can with Mythic Dungeon Tools
yeah but like an overlay
You can with MDTGuide
You can just look on the site itself
Puts a small version of MDT in the corner that tracks pull by pull
how?
u trolling me 
It updates as you clear mobs and moves the map around to the next pull its super cool
I don't think it has an overlay. It just makes it smaller and does a pull-by-pull as you clear shit
why would i troll you Carlwyn 
Ahh sick will have to try that thanks mate
i spread the good word of mdtguide 
idk, lol you are wholesome but i would have never though about something like that, specially since i hate not knowing routes
you can put those positions yourself if you go inside the dungeon on a lower difficulty and check things around or do a key and remember the positions
Need a camera only mode for dungeons where you can fly around and highlight all the packs you want to fight
Before you start a dungeon
And your party can view what you’re doing
Surely that’s not hard to code into the game :>
I'll call the addon Warlock Uses Eye Of Kilrogg And Streams Their POV On Discord

Ia there a way to see everyone in your groups ilvl through details like you used to in tww?
If you pull like a demon possessed maniac the dps won't pull for you. They'll be too busy fighting to survive they won't even consider it.
hello there is there any addon for spell reflect wa ?
No
u can add target of spell to nameplates
@cold pilot yo just coming back to let you know that you’ve enhanced my gameplay lol.
How is it that after so many seasons, I didn’t know wrecking throw was so amazing. Thank you again homie.
was gonna ask if there was the spell reflect guide setup yet found it in the pins. fucking love it
doesnt matter about timer when it comes to vault right
if i can over time it i will gladly spend 2 hours wiping in pos 10
did you guys craft the paladin shield? or what embelishment did you use?
i found it too but i need to reminder or something
i dont think no tank will ever craft emebellishment shield when theres better
also IV guide will set you on the right path
cant be done in game anymore basically u have to use eyes
i can use my eyes but i cant hold it all spells in my brain 😄
just remeber the big ones thats all i do
they rest just use it as a DR
theres only like 3 bosses where its big
4 i guess but 1s a deflect
i see some plater modes but they are old what u think if we can change the inside ?
Paladin shield is bad. Craft a normal shield, arcanoweave if you want to embel
you didn't know it was a ranged silence because the ranged silence talent was only just added in Midnight lol
So many debuffs look like they are bleeds but they are not. Guessing same is BS
oh. ok I look less stupid hahaha
overall 10+ magist
.... is a snare a "movement speed-impairing effect"?
that works on like nothing
If so, can I use this during the chains first pull of Seat?
its terrible
It works on the chain debuff in seat
Unless the fury version is different
I know, just wanted to point that out in case you didn’t know
I assumed it didn’t work
trying to see what node i'm using that I shouldnt be so I can get that for seat
hard to trim

piercing should be intim nowdays
but second wind
or rage cap talent
u dont need rage cap talent
just send rage
Movement impairing effects exclusively refers to snares (it will not work on roots). But every now and then there are snares that aren't affected by things that remove movement speed-impairing effects. Not sure if there are any this season though.
perfect. It's really just that first pull that i'd like to mitigate. My healer is a resto druid, and so I'd like to help in anyway possible.
tips on algethar first pull without dwarf racial? x.x
Let the pat go by, then go left! that always works for me.
split the pull
Dwarf racial removed the dot. Otherwise ur gonna have beg your healer to spam you/bop cancel aura, split into 2 pulls
Even kiting doesnt really work if I recall those flowers move fast af
do lower keys give more % per mob?
This seems more beneficial for DPS than tank tbh, specifically for chains in Seat.
you'll have cds rolling anyway
No
anything to lessen the thinking my healer has to do. or I get yelled at.
She's abusive.
Just yell at the DPS to kill it faster
and the cycle will be complete
I need to stop pugging dps.
hahaahah
Tbh 10-12 keys are super easy I was doing +2 chest on 11s at 250 ilvl
hmmm im getting over% of what MDT supposedly says will be 100% solid 🤔
do you guys use the MDT addon or a second screen for the route?
Mdt to make changes, but off memory in dungeon
I was only focused on getting 8 10+ done on brew and pwar i didnt even look at any routes
Might not be accurate or youre pulling wrong
yogi do a 10 magister's that place is giga free
I love blasting in there
we had a wipe cuz i attempted to merge 6th prisoner
and we didnt get the kicks
if i had locked down the casters we would not have wiped i gues
Yogi is gonna get 8 10s completed tonight just in time for vault tomorrow
the chad
ya right
i dunno about that
1 myth gear more than en ough for me
doesnt matter what slot
i will use it
I believe in you buddy
god,, well hopefully right
Nice

The phase changes were the most difficult part
having all those debuffs on me at once
Yeah
but you can shockwave to reset stacks
You know
Everytime I’ve tried to run through the library in magisters terrace I’ve gotten caught
by the books?
By the wizards with dotted lines
And once by books
Idk why I’m usually good at that stuff
but the ogre died on his own after 25%
i got him to about a third until nullaeus was active again
why is bloodborne a choice node with sudden death 
he doesnt really deal much dmg, but the void zones are annoying
Does nulleaus give weekly myth crests?
no
i got 5 from looting him and 30 for idk what
probably achievo
there is more than likely achievo tied to it
which 1 time per character
ok
So i need to get delvers journey to lvl 4
to get more myth crests without doing m+
not big delver personally
in the 4 gilded chests of t11
well i'll take a look
i'll focus on the crafted shield first i think
It's a measly 5 myth crests a week
Not worth the time imo
there needs to be like a first time daily 3x valeera exp
which at below like lvl 10
20
is basicalll 80% of her lvl
or else i will never interact with it
i have her level like 14 or 15 or something, and so for my purposes she is best as healer
Valera was pointless for ??, why would you care about her level at all?
It is done and dusted content
i only did the ? boss last i knew about
Go do the ?? version, it is free
cuz i remember i had to try it like 8 times on monk
that and im not sure the ping to tell her to do things works for me
probably some box i didnt tick
Sure
Real McDonalds is on the asmon server which isnt sarg
mr cockroach guy
@tribal wharf u know mcconnell right was that the real one i jsut grouped with
on topic question, do yall use execute in mob pulls or is it better to just spam shield slam/clap/revenge?
was not known to me

I legit thought at least Asmon stopped playing
to pursue... whatever he does now
react videos? idk
sorry had to afk, where do i get the addon?
and how do i do thsi sorcery
DUDE
One does not quit WoW, you only take breaks
This is known
the issue is
they need to add in the item of asmongold ultimate desire
some mount or whatever even he cant stay away from
Sadly yes
i thought i had quit for good

then my wife made me return
The backstab and twist of the century
kind of
but true
well i'm playing dnd with my wife and kids now, so
Tells you everything you need to know
#nerdlifegoals
#ChildrenYearnToFarmHerbs

curseforge
just got it now how does it work ?
you can now minimize the MDT window further
i blame pilav for the shit healers im getting in my m10/m11s
and keep that in the corner or smthn
Do +9 keys count as a casual experience for a seasoned tank?
"this game is too easy blah blah"
mfs queueing for +10 and higher, unable to dodge simplest mechanics
im j chillin in a 9 personally but i wont do 9s unless im being nice to guildies
yep
yday had evoker healer +40 deaths in m10 nexus
today i had resto druid unable to dodge mechanics in skyreach, we abandoned after 1st boss
Its all relative to the characters gear. Like +9 is not for casuals if they have like 200 ilvl
think i started running mythics once my ilvl went above 230
I have 250 now
I mean I had no issues tanking 10s at 245 ilvl and a shit shield so
What was overall
It’s all relative
HOW MUCH DID YOU DO @toxic pewter
250 ilvl should be able to do 10s easy
SKYREACH 12
Sometimes you get goobers in your group if ur pugging you just gotta suck it up or leave
How are they not all over 100k
are you pulling small bro
you a lil baby
huh
lmao
HUH APB
i mean hmmm
i did giga first pull
and many doubles
but some chains
i cant deny
some trash in there hurt a lot
LIL BABY TANK APB WON'T PULL BIG
lol
SAD
😂
but im always worried
tank my 15AA
ok
https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/protection/warrior/mythic-plus/overview/10/all-dungeons/this-week archon is still recommending talents different from icy veins??
Remember this is what pugging looks like smh
anyway glad i got this resto to 2000 rating

I'm at 251ilvl and feel like im always getting gaps in shield block uptime. using the M+ thane build with in to the fray. just not enough haste? even with shield charge filling the gap i still get caught with my pants down
These icy veins guide are a scam why would u take ravager over tough as nails
@undone beacon might not reach 10 this week but this might be game changing. also i see it tracks live what is that
Heavy repercussion
Also they are taking haste over sb uptime . Absolute a omination.
so just a zug vs mit tradeoff? at least until u have enough haste to pull it off?
👍
Ravager/whirling blade is an insane amount of rage gen and not worth dropping
The ITF vs HR discussion is expanded upon here. Until we have more haste, we run HR. The guide does not reflect that yet
Where is the fucking rat 🐀
On vacation
Sometimes healing is super chill, sometimes you are having heart attacks. Like DPS standing in puddles, or not kicking, a classic
Smh
We miss him dearly
Ok fair enough for the ravager thingy
Nimchip is in the desert
Tough as Nails ends up being our flex point that can be shifted into other options as while it does a lot of damage, that’s all it does. Some people swap it for BSV
BSV are for people who don’t trust their healers
Archon talents diff bloodsurge/bloodborn
Whats the name of that talent that gives us dmg increase after 250 rage spent . Isnt that kinda bad?

Violent Outburst, and no it is very good
No way man
It also increases rage generation and gives a free ignore pain
How is it good
how is it not good?
50% more rage on our main rage generator is not minimal
And free casts of a defensive are free casts of a defensive
It plays very well into fueling the rage machine and keeping the rotation smooth
With no extra thought required
There is no talent you could swap it for that accounts for that much damage, rage, and defensive value for a single point investment
Can you elaborate on “shield charge filling the gap”?
no charges of shield block, press shield charge to get shield block up
Shield charge grants shield block
on the tt i think haha
On the tooltip
You learn something new every day
I really do

i died once, and we had a bunch of like, random flies dropping off
and then they say, for final section in the cave, you have to go its a gauntlet
but we killed the boss anyway
thats a mythic now?
it says 272 like others
How does one live first pull AA 12 or higher? The dot from the lashers just trucks the shit outta me
Tried leaping away but it seems to be infinity range
this one says 7 will give 272
hold on log time
its gunna be shit
The silver bullet is using piercing howl to kite away after your CDs are down. The bleed has a 100 yard range, but they only cast it if youre in melee.
its 100 yard range
if i get a chaence i'll create a private video of that with the log running in the background
Oooohhh okay
or as attachment
What i do is start with shield wall, then, once I pop my cheat death, I just high-tail it away from the lashers with piercing howl & heroic leap, they will just do nothing as long as you aren't in melee
Correct!
noted
This pull became so much easier after finding this out on some random reddit thread lol, once you get it down it goes from one of the scariest pulls ever to pretty easy
And then how do you suppose you’ll hold aggro
This strategy involves about 30 seconds of beating on the mobs in between bloodlust, avatar, etc, I just oversimplified for the sake of explaination
That’s a pretty terrible way to do explanation
sorry for dumb question, but is haste rating the overall haste? e.g. on my warrior the current haste rating is 541 only?
Haste rating is the number
Not the %
Your haste rating is 541, yes
@lusty grotto first night of mythic chim happening later, predict outcome
few ways to go about haste thing
that addon
and this one
they are, true stat value, for bottom, and narcissus for top
MDTguide is there much set up to it?
In what way?
I got him in dms dont worry
but for the lurkers, no additional setup needed for MDT guide, you can now drop it to a smaller size, move it around, and it'll track pack by pacl
@tribal wharf how’s your day going today, good start to th week?
Love this. Didn’t realize it tracked by pack.
I didnt know it added that either
4 mounts lets go
Havent used mdt yet
im gettin all 4
Yeah its really slick
mdtguide my beloved
What’s your favorite
That’s sick
In what order do I skill the middle skill tree?
okay, ty
is solar core igniter a decent trinket?
sim
was thinking also shield effect
defensive trinkets 
i dont remember when the trade post had actually good shit in it.. 3 months of just crap
i mean i havent rly dropped any other anyway xD
I would leave them un selected until level 90

At what ilvl you can comfortably do 10s
I did most of my 10s at 245 ilvl
but that was with a reliable healer and pulling very safe
Ilvl 170
Or if you’re rich
Ilvl 220
Who wants to do three 10s with me tonight
254 worked for all 10s for me.
This is high value dungeoneering.
im at 256 and only done a 4 LMAO
Than just start doing higher once, check the routes tho…
I used “Sha” routes (guy from YouTube) he plays on BM monk but the routes work for everyone I think.
Who knew IV would become so crucial to survival one day 😄
i got that overlay from mdt so i will see how that goes
also to open vault do we send it as prot or dps?
I whish I could transmog my shield into a one-hand-sword and do some "furry" tanking
Pips, can anyone give me advice on smth…
So first pull after first boss, Skyreach nasty pull… I managed to kite a bit but asked Shami for totem and was doing some weird jumping and charging in general, felt a bit stupid, pretty sure there is a better way. Any opinions
For us prots ofc
Can someone talk me of a ledge, Im watching all this mythic+ recap stuff, and I feel like Im griefing by playing this spec. I shouldn't switch right
Stop watching that garbage and play the spec you enjoy
Lmfao
Are you having fun or not?
Bro thinks I’m doing anything other than queuing 10s at 170
What keys are you doing?
😂
Brew does as he pleases
Yes and Im working on 10+ right now, but its been awhile since I've last played so just gettting my chops back
How important are crafted weapons for prot?
Kinda wanna play prot and dps not sure which weap to craft 😄
I wouldn't worry about meta stuff. People will take you.
Tank shortage is real.
One of the 3 pulls with agents of dawn....their stacking fire dot is insane but falls off fast.
Kiting/ cc is only way, you can't face take high stacks
It drops very fast if you step back
Not as crucial as for DPS specs but still a high value craft
Maybe best to craft the fury weapon and try get swrod and shield drops then ?
i crafted the myth version for both and fuck it
Defensively, shield at 285 is big.
Do I need to dl MDT or can MDT Guide standalone?
The way it looked was …
I charged in, took the once on the right, took 7 stacks, shockwaved, took like another 5, jumped over them, took another like 5 or 6 charged into orb, than preyed XD
That's basically what I do, 4 or 5 stacks then drop. Also good dps know by now how dangerous is for tanks
And most groups lately dps has been focusing and ccing those
I was thinking about hamstringing each individually XD
its a companion to MDT so you need both
I use javelin and back up , in and make em snap
ty
Monk bounce is great there too
Doesn't hurt to tell ur dps to burn them first, they go down very fast
I made sham drop totem, was ok but on the edge tbh, not sure I will survive 12 with that tactic XD
W8 doesn’t our stun stuns three ppl if u spected into it in mountain tane?
You can if you just focus on stepping out. Can hero leap other side of pack, charge back across to far mob, stuns, all the things
My hammer hits 3 yea
how does the dmg distribution look for st
i didnt really use wrecking throw because i tried to not waste any rage and catch every ss possible
and i'm not sure if the ingame dmg meter counts tc dmg on the other dummy
they're so close in silvermoon
Not terrible, would be easier to tell from a log
Shield charge is weirdly low
Wrecking throw is the absolute tiniest damage optimization imaginable unless there are shields involved, wouldn't stress it
What are people doing for their vault? Got both wep and shield crafted, thinking of going arms vault to skip defensive trinkets. Wep or shield upgrade feels so minor
Yea fury vault is never the play
technically a 6/6 wep and shield are better than crafted. A shield drops off the first boss of myth though so
either prot or arms, but prot vault feels like a waste
Ideally you open in prot until you have a myth wep and shield
i'll take whatever i get in there
i rather arms but idk if it even makes a dif than fury
Oh right fury doesnt have 1hs anymore right?
yea leaning towards dps vault then, nightmare if most of the myth vault is dungeon tank trinkets
To be fair most of the dungeon dps trinkets are ass too
yea... weird season this time
Yo yo, in first boss on mythic what are you guys doing with the taunt swap. Was ending up with 15-20ish stacks of debuff by the time the adds died
Or is that normal? I was fine, just seemed like a lot
Kill adds faster 
Cant really swap until adds are dealt with so, adds just gotta go down
what addon do you guys use to log your combat and can you use it on a dummy?
No auto logging has a dummy option that I'm aware of; you'd have to log manually.
Ghash I heard you decided you wanted to do keys with me
I would begin distrusting whoever told you that rumor.
just failed a seat +13 because i fucked up the route
i'm so sad
killed lura and then we all noticed there was still 4% left
ya, at the start of the dungeon
Have you thought about coding your own mmorpg
the dudes dont seem to count for % and have to go to void part
I don't know how to code, and I definitely don't have the patience for MMO players haha
That’s fair
did you follow sha route? i did the same thing earlier today lol missed a pack by 2nd boss
ah right, yeah kinda sucks i ported back to the start but all the mobs give so little count that were left
probably wasted like 3 mins
dreadscale seems good kinda want that
Was it that weird one where you loop back?
There’s a four pack right there but you loop back to grab the 3
Feels really awkward
yep, that one
Is that what you were farming pit for
yep, drops most set slots too
just farming general hero gear thajt doesnt want to drop
finally resilient
2956, idk if i should go for 3k today or wait reset to grab a decent item
hello, i'm still new to tanking but i'm wondering what the class brings more than the other tanks
it seems like warrior doesn't have much utility and can't really heal himself up, so what does warrior bring more ?
but ehhh, we have a decent amount of CC(2 aoe stuns, fear), mass interrupt
an attack damage buff
warrior has a history of not being a class that brings much to the utility table
this is not a protection problem, it's a warrior problem
also has a history of either being very bad
or decent
not much in between
Send crests into 3/6 hero track shield before mythic tomorrow, or hold out in case shield drops from first boss?
i rarely encountered "alright" warrior players
you should survive without upgrading, but next week there will be another 100 hero crests, so its not big of a loss anyway
Just send that shit
Im dps main and need some advice for tanking. Why the hell does it feel like a job to keep up shield block/ignore pain at a 100% rate? Am I just to newbie on prot warri or just bad and think to much into it while tanking M+
Going to paying gold for better upgrade, after with mythic crest
oh right, i forgot first boss is 1/6 myth, so you will want to upgrade hero first anyway
Only got 2/6 in main slots I want to upgrade, and I'd "lose" a lot of crests by being early, so I ponder if it's better to hold on until Voracious
nah, you will want to upgrade hero shield in order to save myth crests
But wouldn't 4-5/6 be free, and you'd have to pay for the 6/6 before doing the mythic 2/6?
yea it would
You should not care about IP uptime, only shield block
Use IP to not rage cap
Try to get to as close to 100% SB uptime
Swap Into the Fray with Heavy Repurcussions
We carry the flame
Hold up even with 880 haste?
Yes
HR is busted
You need 1188 haste rating to swap to ITF
Yall have no idea now HR save asses
Ok, but at what haste % do I spam IP?
At least 7
I kinda want to try a key where I just focus on spamming all rage into IP
Gotta be horrid
is that 1188 with the 8% itf or 1188 raw haste?
Raw haste number
so next season probably
so i unlocked the 4set pc
@undone beacon so if i have 694 haste, i should be running HR and not ITF
Correct
and i only got 1 catalyst past that
@undone beacon cool beans ty for the info!
Next season for sure unless you get really unlucky, this season you can theoretically get up there with really lucky itemization
Is there those like, 300 haste, 50 crit rings in this season that were on every tww final boss? I haven't really looked at the loot tables for the raid
There’s a pure haste ring from the last boss of March
caverns isnt that good of a dungeon for me
289 303 pure haste ring
wtf am i running that for lol
with 2 sockets and a special effect
and a neck with 2 sockets as well damn
with giga mastery
cuz, if i go farm seat for the trinket, i will have dual on use trinkets
so, i gues i wanted the auto trinket with mastery
like at hero
the windrunner haste one is prob better to farm for a passive trinket right?
nexus has a ton of crap i want to loot
Duuuude
That ring
i mean that ring is giga bis for so many peeps
Saptors paw is also nice
and it will the coined every week until you get it
or from vault if youre lucky
as it is a very rare drop
only 2 pieces whole tier with 2 sockets
both coming from MQD
i'm missing haste on gloves, waist, boots and a ring
and have 850
and only 250 ilvl, so 1200 haste should be doable this season
especially at 290-291 ilvl which will prob be the final ilvl for the season
eternal voidsong chain neck with 200 haste is nice
I need that alleria neck for my priest
Im missing haste on nearly everything because all i did on my warrior was the 8 vaults
Im already crafted 
Emissary of the Craft
I have sent 0 crafts
U should do a wep after vault
Big uppies
And will be free uppies on that hero sword u got if u didnt send already
I made a shield and a weapon on the Warrior because I’m not touching myth
But holy moly it was not cheap
I think it cost me like 40k overall
how is that not cheap, you dont do professions?
I do not do professions because I find the system bloated and unfun
I just buy the mats and make guildies craft me shit
okay
They made it A LOT less... mainable I guess is the word?
it's a little sad the alleria neck proc is useless
The barrier for entry is under the floor
It’s a lot less friendly for someone who doesn’t want to bother with figuring out skills trees and optimizations to just craft shit
but the stats are really nice
i love it, i guess it's a matter of taste really
i hated the old professions
It is certainly a pillar of the endgame I do not have any interest in truly engaging with. Just like PvP
The midnight changes are a lot more "don't give a shit" friendly
df and tww were kinda degenerate but midnight is WAY more straightforward
I was like sure on my priest I’ll go enchanting and flip some enchants for easy gold, and then the skill trees are like 3 sets of layered bullshit lmao
That is exactly what I do
Well I pawn lotuses off on my guildies so they can make me flasks
Works quite well
I literally craft my own stuff
And i think its overall a negative
It cost money to train the skills, and i still have to buy the mats
It might save me gold across the expac
But its just for convenience
I think it takes a fair amount of time to turn an actual profit on shit, unless you’re like a dead server crafter
It takes an alt army to make a good amount unless u make all the money right off the start tbh
My GF is one of the only high rank scribes on her cluster and she rakes in money for crafts, doesn’t even actually charge for shit just makes stuff and people tip well
She made 40k on a staff Craft the other night and I was jealous
But then she bought me a chest enchant and I was happy so 
I dont think ive ever made a weapon for someone I got more than 5k tip 🥀

I made a mint selling augment runes right before season start
I know somebody that has like 30 alts doing majestic hide daily
Plus a few BoE and recipe drops
btw does anybody know why augment rune prices fucking died?
i thought they changed it to warband
I think I made around 2mil between launch and now
Pretty easy to get now
why would people buy that shit
they're cheaper than they were after the infinite augment rune dropped in wws3
If they did he’s still doing it on 3 accounts, he’s already made his money
augment runes give mediocre stats
HOF minmaxxing
also it's easier to get a good parse at the beginning of a season
so those rank 1 parse pushers
a lot of mid-highcore guilds also buy like 1000 of them at the beginning fo expansions
I mean if everyone is going for the early rank 1’s i feel it’s even harder
Also cloth was going for a lot in the first week or so and it was nice
50g per piece of bright linen was big money
Few hours in shadow guard point made a couple 100k
i enjoy crafting my own stuff, especially the profession tools
the purple ones
but it takes a lot of dunduning for that 😄
still missing an egineer for the jewelcrafter tool
but i'll fix that soon
I’d rather just go dick around in the world 
Gotta max my renowns
Get more mounts
Waiter waiter more mounts
I’m gonna hit exalted with the Slayers Rise rep without ever going into war mode
Lies, mods ban him
100 pictures of 100 boxes each
hm
you have to for the hall of fame
before reset
oh it's a pug nvm
damn lol
scratch that
why i not in a guild
You won’t get HOF
wtf
has to be a guild run
that lame af
The fact you can pug your way to a mythic chim kill already is wild
i think 3 mythic bosses will be decently puggable later
they are puggable now but in like 1-2 months peeps withh do first 2 and chimaerus
and fire coins at chimaerus for the trinket
i say eat it
Did pash just lose to yogi, chat
as long as this thing is a myth
i dont really care
i did a 10 but it wasnt on time
literally any slot any effect
dont care
long as its better than what i have even marginally
Yogi is a hero
im just a man who's circumstances went beyond my control
Yogi when are you gonna do keys with me
guys, is anyone here who is willing to look at my logs since I cant interpret and tell me please why my dmg is more than shit compared to others?
no clue what im doing wrong
Yeah post em
First thing I see is a disturbing lack of Shield Charges
I only do it when I run out of shield block but it seems its wrong 😄
Is it still bugged in wcl
Oh nvm
Yeah press it on CD it’s a good button
wait, does it say I only used it one time? that cant be
our tier set literally doubles its already high damage
1 cast 4 hits is what it says
I think there is a WCL bug where it doesn’t log casts in melee
Or from range
One of the two
no way I only casted it once in that dungeon
but that alone cant be the reason why my dmg is so shit
Comparison is the thief of joy
Pshhh just give avatar back the root and snare removal like we had
it was a pretty bad place for a root break since we really really wanted to press it on CD
sure but it was still there for that purpose
In that log
It looks like 77 revenge and over 400 ip.
I wonder if maybe there’s too few revenges
Someone better than me might be able to determine that though
Just seemed like a large difference
how do you guys swap on p2 of crown?
most pugs i'm in the co tank wants to hold position and have boss run to them
thing is our taunt is pretty bad at pulling attention when u need it
there's a weird delay.
any tips?
What do you mean?
which addon are people using now to automate talking to npcs in keys?
Avatar used to remove roots and snares
So if you got rooted like you do in Mag Terrace you could pop Avatar and get out of it
so if you're losing IP instantly, that's pretty bad right?
barely got an 8 algethar at 242 and i was fighting for my life lol
really?
I just need to vent. I have done 34 10's/11's without an upgrade.
Im TIRED granpda, i don't wanna do no more dungeons!
what build are you running?
mountain thane wowhead one
I never find myself fighting for my life in AA... were you trying to pull the entire first room?
We recommend IV over wowhead now
I mean you shouldnt need that for the heal
Yeah they are
I know you're only pulling half the room instead of all of it like a lot of people are now but they still need to die
This
what's the best way to chain defensives? wall, shockwave, wall, SB?
Straight up getting some skin in the game helps @ocean heath
You still can use berserker rage right?
berserker rage with fearless doesn't work on a lot of things
Shockwave is a mixed bag imo
You can sync up autos and that's not good
Shockwave and then leaping away to kite is probably chill
Shockwave and backpedaling to try to stagger when mobs get back into melee range can help
Berserker rage doesnt do shit anymore
yea i noticed losing half my hp instantly when i charged into a pack
It does work on the chain debuff in seat, though
well, it does what it always used to do lol
Berserker rage and also every man for himself doesnt do anything
but yeah, slows that are bad enough that you'd talent a cleanse aren't common
its like you gotta swap to dwarf
I always have berserker talented 
and since Wars are "the mobility class" we got some mobility hamstringed
Well, I never held avatar for root cleanses
Trinket Gloom-Spattered Dreadscale any good for keys? It appears to have nice absorb and nice damage done
So I don't really think it's a big loss tbh
Yeah decent, not one of the best or anything
are yall lusting on algethar academy boss 2? and do u go wind first or fire?
Wind first
then fire
Lower level keys 1-10 doesnt matter you can pop fire and also lust during that phase and burn it down
but wind then fire usually
Also make sure you snag one of the wind orbs when you see it
Haste buff and you can move against the wind easier
Hello everyone 
I've seen some questions about how to contact me about spell reflect guide additions / questions. I don't read discord chats that often but feel free to DM me if you think you found something preferably with a log.
https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide
Algethar's last boss is so weird. I get pulled right into flying orbs every time
when she does the AOE pull thing
Thanks!
How big are 2 set and 4 set this season for prot
Which one are people enjoying more, or is one just better between Eternal Egg and Rotting Globule?
I would look for a different trinket imo
Eternal egg at least seems to have some useful value with the haste?
Lol I play every day for hours. I hit 3k and aotc and ce chimmy without hof then go to PvP where I work to became the worlds highest rated vulpera arms warrior in solo shuffle
These days I spend my days world pvping if any of you have been in war mode in NA CHANCES are i have killed u
I am a very powerful individual
My /played is like 6 years or some shit
Grats apb
Big achievement
and i was in bstance entire time just pumping dam
It’s a crazy achievement, unfortunate it didnt hof, id say pugging is harder lmao
Yeah like i just dont have a mythic guild lol
Dumb that they tie the achievement to guilds and not players
Go help them out
yeah i actually will good idea
Man i wish i had that kind of determination
Thinking about 9 hours of prog with pugging

I did a tacticle move at the end
Apb im hanging a picture of you on my wall
Lmao
they couldnt bear to lose me





